| 00:00.23 | Amarande | probably helps that people are used to impersonal scripted MegaCo customer support most of the time, too :S |
| 00:02.08 | Mr_Rabies | you unfortunately can't expect everyone to be nice to you when they don't know you |
| 00:02.12 | Amarande | assuming they get to talk to a human at all, mind you. there seems to be very little human element to business in general nowadays, the customers are assisted by IVR robots, the product is manufactured by machines, hell even the stocks are often bought and sold by HFT computers now too |
| 00:02.55 | Amarande | the technological singularity may not be a very good thing for us at all at this rate, the way we've been evolving business, once computers evolve intelligence, they may very well decide they don't even need us humans anymore, and the sad thing is that they very well might be right, LOL |
| 00:04.07 | Mr_Rabies | i'm more concerned with them being convinced they DO need us, Amarande |
| 00:04.33 | Mr_Rabies | because we are squishy and they can be machine guns with robot brains |
| 00:04.34 | Amarande | Mr_Rabies: yeah, but it doesn't help that society seems to be fostering quite a large segment of humanity that has barely needed to learn how to deal with their fellow human at all |
| 00:05.02 | Mr_Rabies | capitalism works best without the human element |
| 00:05.18 | Mr_Rabies | if you can get rid of that pesky mechanic all will work |
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| 00:09.29 | Atriace | Anybody encountered an issue with accessing "fully locked-down" objects? |
| 00:09.51 | Atriace | Specifically, you can find this on AuthChallengeFrame (see: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info10636-417923.html#postmenu_417727) |
| 00:09.57 | Amarande | hm. wouldn't the very notion of 'fully locked down' be that outside accessibility is limited or prohibited? :S |
| 00:10.05 | Amarande | working as intended, most likely :) |
| 00:10.29 | Atriace | Indeed. I don't actually have any interest in accessing it; quite the contrary, I want to scan past it. |
| 00:11.13 | Atriace | But I'm uncertain as to how I'd test for an object with this quality. They show up as tables by object type, and using GetObjectType() is what's actually throwing the error. |
| 00:13.36 | Amarande | okay, that's a pretty mean behaviour |
| 00:14.07 | Amarande | "If you try to check whether you're allowed to access something or not, and you're not, you're accessing it without permission and you'll be punished even though you couldn't know about it beforehand!" |
| 00:14.08 | Neffi | I believe it's something to do with the new shop |
| 00:14.16 | Amarande | Franz Kafka's ghost must be working for Blizzard in the UI department now :) |
| 00:14.25 | Neffi | There's an API to check if the frame is locked down. I can't find what that is |
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| 00:16.52 | Neffi | Atriace: getmetatable(object).__index <- search that table for any API that mentioned "Locked" or something similar |
| 00:17.01 | Neffi | That's where all the API for the frame resides |
| 00:17.24 | Atriace | Neffi: Thank you very much. I'll check it out. |
| 00:17.32 | Neffi | It's gonna be a huge table btw |
| 00:17.40 | Neffi | So you might wanna code something to search it |
| 00:17.58 | Atriace | cracks knuckles. |
| 00:18.03 | Atriace | I got this. |
| 00:18.22 | Neffi | The function will most likely start with "Is". So search for that or "Lock" or something |
| 00:21.02 | Atriace | Interesting. It's a table of functions. |
| 00:21.28 | Neffi | mhmm |
| 00:21.46 | Neffi | It's really just inheritance. All frames inherit their API from the same table of functions for that frame type |
| 00:22.08 | Amarande | Yeah, but having even checking the object type throw an error in the case of locked down objects is a little ... Draconian |
| 00:22.27 | Amarande | I'm going to guess that at some point an addon or potential addon must have existed where it would have posed a problem to the game ecosystem, though :S |
| 00:22.47 | Amarande | though I can't really think of how one would go about that |
| 00:22.49 | Neffi | Amarande: It's because it's a security hazard to allow an addon to access the in-game store |
| 00:22.56 | Neffi | So they just locked it all down |
| 00:23.07 | Atriace | There's IsForbidden, and IsProtected that look promising. |
| 00:23.08 | Amarande | oh, right, that cursed IGS stuff, which I've ranted about more than enough :P |
| 00:23.16 | Neffi | Rather than, you know, using the browser they just integrated into the engine to display the store. That makes too much sense. |
| 00:23.35 | Neffi | Atriace: I don't believe it's IsProtected |
| 00:23.40 | Amarande | though yeah, once you start bringing real money into a game too heavily, you start inherently having to impose additional limitations for the protection of same :S |
| 00:24.24 | Amarande | well, you could argue 'unless it's EVE, where they will gladly let you blow up over a thousand bucks in an instant' ... but otoh, EVE is understandably pretty damn Draconian about third party alterations, too :) |
| 00:40.13 | Semlar | neffi should i have normal and heroic versions of scenarios and dungeons as separate categories |
| 00:43.55 | Semlar | would anyone even put a group together for a normal scenario |
| 00:44.06 | Semlar | hm |
| 00:44.24 | Amarande | Sooo ... speaking of the store, do you think Blizzard will ever do the Mann Co. Crate/LOTRO Lootbox thing once the in-game store is integrated? :) |
| 00:48.08 | Amarande | (hmm, did anyone else do that, I think at least one of the Guild Wars games may have) |
| 00:48.44 | Atriace | This seems like a simple one, but I'm out of practice (for Lua): if you want to call a function whose first argument is the object from which the function resides, you simply use object:function() (i.e, an equivalent of function(object)), right? |
| 00:50.33 | Atriace | The problem is when you have a string representation of that function name, and need to evaluate and call it on the object. If no argument is required, object[functionString]() would work, but most frame methods use the ":" method. |
| 00:50.44 | Amarande | such boxes could be a nice way to distribute rare mounts and removed from the game mog gear |
| 00:51.15 | Amarande | though I always resist the temptation to pay to open those things (really Valve, $2.50? LOL) |
| 00:52.05 | Atriace | So how would you write that, object[functionString](object) is not producing the same results for me as object:function(). Sooo... object:object[functionString]()? |
| 00:53.09 | Semlar | object.function(object) should be the same as object:function() which is the same as your first example |
| 00:53.57 | Atriace | Alright, so object[k](object) "should" work, right? |
| 00:54.05 | Semlar | yes |
| 00:54.20 | Semlar | object[k](object) is the same as object.k(object) if k is a string |
| 00:55.08 | Semlar | i'm not really sure object is even the right word for a table but it's not really important |
| 00:55.13 | Atriace | Although the brackets would be necessary to evaluate k:String as a function |
| 00:55.37 | Atriace | Sorry, programming history; I've been in the thick of EMCA for 4 years now. |
| 00:55.56 | Semlar | you can call it an object if you want |
| 00:57.23 | Semlar | in an actual example: PlayerFrame.Hide(PlayerFrame) vs PlayerFrame:Hide() |
| 00:58.12 | Semlar | or PlayerFrame['Hide'](PlayerFrame) |
| 00:58.16 | Semlar | all do the same thing |
| 00:59.27 | Semlar | when calling it |
| 00:59.45 | Semlar | you can define them using dot or colon syntax too, which makes a difference |
| 01:01.21 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:02.11 | Atriace | Alphabetize it? |
| 01:02.28 | Atriace | Right-align to the dropdown icon |
| 01:02.45 | Semlar | would you rather it be alphabetized or separated into pve and pvp |
| 01:03.05 | Atriace | If that's the current sorting, perhaps section titles. |
| 01:03.43 | Atriace | http://corlan.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/section-list.png |
| 01:05.30 | Semlar | i don't even know if i can practically right align the menu without writing my own dropdown script |
| 01:05.52 | Semlar | i have no idea why they made the stupid menus drop down from the left |
| 01:09.39 | Semlar | foxlit: did you ever change how your dropdown menus worked |
| 01:12.42 | Semlar | i could probably just clear its points and reset them every time it's shown |
| 01:15.44 | Semlar | or.. just change its onclick function apparently |
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| 01:17.33 | Atriace | Apparently pcall is a blocked error handling method not exposed by Blizzard (http://www.lua.org/manual/5.2/manual.html#pdf-pcall) |
| 01:20.50 | Atriace | Someone tell me I'm wrong |
| 01:20.56 | Atriace | pcall(AuthChallengeFrame:IsMovable()) |
| 01:22.47 | Semlar | well it isn't because you're calling pcall |
| 01:22.48 | Arrowmaster | it should be in wow |
| 01:23.14 | Semlar | AuthChallengeFrame:IsMovable() throws "attempt to access fully locked-down object" |
| 01:23.17 | Arrowmaster | xpcall is better |
| 01:23.30 | Arrowmaster | then you arent supposed to touch that frame? |
| 01:23.46 | Atriace | To which I'd expect pcall to return false |
| 01:23.57 | Atriace | But I don't get that. |
| 01:24.12 | Semlar | i'm assuming you can't do ANYTHING with that frame |
| 01:24.23 | Arrowmaster | oh you dont use it that way |
| 01:24.50 | Atriace | , oh wait... message handler.. looks like an event listener... hmm... |
| 01:25.10 | Arrowmaster | pcall(function () AuthChallengeFrame:IsMovable() end) |
| 01:26.52 | Atriace | Aha, thanks, Arrowmaster. That does indeed work. |
| 01:32.22 | Atriace | Victory! Finally a complete table printout without table loops (or scanning forbidden objects) |
| 01:33.49 | Arrowmaster | if you look at the callback handler code it uses xpcall to do the same thing except it maintains the debug stack |
| 01:34.03 | Arrowmaster | for your purpose it sounds like it doesnt matter so pcall is better |
| 01:42.27 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:42.56 | Semlar | i'm not sure about alphabetizing it since it can be displayed in other languages anyway |
| 01:43.53 | Atriace | Ah, order! |
| 01:44.30 | Atriace | Very nice. As for the alphabetizing: just use a sort(). It wouldn't matter what language it appeared in (afaik) |
| 01:46.17 | fewyn | Ackis i just homepassed you |
| 01:46.23 | Semlar | maybe all should be under misc |
| 01:48.26 | Arrowmaster | Ackis: what is your xbox avatar wearing |
| 01:51.30 | Semlar | maybe i'll have it randomize the menu order every time you open it |
| 01:53.59 | Semlar | that should keep things fresh |
| 01:54.27 | Atriace | Ease-of-use is predicated on predictability. |
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| 02:15.29 | kd3 | lol. nazgrim's got a santa hat on |
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| 02:34.17 | Mr_Rabies | wellll |
| 02:34.22 | Mr_Rabies | my combat log is over 1GB |
| 02:34.26 | Mr_Rabies | i should probably clear that |
| 02:43.14 | Arrowmaster | lol friend linked this to me today and im just now watching it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EmPXzA3TqMY |
| 02:44.05 | Atriace | wtf |
| 02:44.29 | Atriace | Figures... it's japanese. |
| 02:44.42 | Arrowmaster | it touhou |
| 02:45.04 | Arrowmaster | with spacejam edited into it |
| 03:19.57 | Corv | Is there a generic way to check a unit frame for its unit? Regardless of Blizz, addon? |
| 03:20.52 | Atriace | Not that I'm aware of. A unit frame is a concept, represented by a collection of data points. |
| 03:21.01 | Semlar | try GetAttribute('unit') |
| 03:21.35 | Semlar | unitFrame:GetAttribute('unit') |
| 03:24.30 | Semlar | if you can interact with the unit frame you can figure out what unit it's for |
| 03:24.49 | Corv | Awesome, thanks Semlar. |
| 03:35.18 | Neffi | Semlar: you could try just putting a skull icon next to heroic in the list |
| 03:35.35 | Neffi | Or put all of them in the same dropdown/list, but under a separate heading |
| 03:35.35 | Semlar | i'll put a skull icon next to you in the list |
| 03:35.49 | Neffi | is toxic. |
| 03:36.02 | Neffi | Gives new meaning to the term "ladykiller" |
| 03:36.08 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:36.30 | Neffi | I think that works well |
| 03:36.59 | Neffi | But, I prefer to avoid acronyms in UIs |
| 03:36.59 | Neffi | Makes it look more professional to spell things out |
| 03:37.08 | Semlar | global strings |
| 03:37.22 | Neffi | Also is "all" referring to ALL to just all misc? |
| 03:37.44 | Neffi | If it refers to everything, it should be at the top, above all headings, by itself. Perhaps in a slightly different color |
| 03:37.45 | Semlar | it's the closest thing i could find to "display everything" |
| 03:38.06 | Semlar | well this is what it was before http://i.imgur.com/uTWBnxr.jpg |
| 03:38.12 | Neffi | What works is, have ALL at the top, left-aligned. Hve the rest slightly indented. See how it looks though |
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| 03:38.25 | Semlar | i put it under misc because it's misc |
| 03:38.30 | Neffi | It looks weird because of WoW's art style |
| 03:39.24 | Neffi | Wasn't there a red mushroom icon before? |
| 03:39.53 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:40.08 | Neffi | I like the red mushroom |
| 03:40.16 | Neffi | Makes me think "Semlar made this" |
| 03:40.22 | Semlar | >_> |
| 03:40.29 | Neffi | 'tis a good thing |
| 03:40.43 | Semlar | it's just going to make everyone else thing wtf is a mushroom doing on my raid browser |
| 03:40.57 | Neffi | I dont know about them, but it would make me more curious |
| 03:41.04 | Neffi | Plus, maybe brand recognition? |
| 03:41.24 | Neffi | Every time they see a mushroom somewhere on their UI they go "oh shit I have a Semlar addon!" |
| 03:41.43 | Semlar | i should make my cooldown addon cover their action buttons with mushrooms |
| 03:41.50 | Neffi | you should |
| 03:42.41 | Semlar | i just thought i might use more expressive icons for the tabs |
| 03:42.56 | Neffi | That's a solid design choice |
| 03:43.01 | Neffi | But then again, red mushroom |
| 03:44.01 | Semlar | mm well i need to get it into working condition and then fiddle with things |
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| 03:45.08 | Semlar | oh there's a global string for "Show Everything", that works |
| 03:45.39 | Neffi | Letting Blizz localize for you? |
| 03:45.54 | Semlar | yeah i don't really want to localize anything if i don't have to |
| 03:46.06 | Semlar | i normally avoid text as much as possible |
| 03:46.11 | Neffi | Smart. I just don't localize. I probably should stop being so lazy |
| 03:47.14 | Neffi | lol Colbert |
| 03:49.00 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:49.54 | Semlar | i don't know if i need to split dungeon/heroic dungeon |
| 03:50.31 | Neffi | I would say so |
| 03:50.57 | Neffi | You either want to do a dungeon, or you want to do a heroic. They may be subets of the same thing, but they have different purposes that don't overlap. |
| 03:53.26 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:54.10 | Neffi | IMO PvE should take precedence over things like questing |
| 03:54.11 | Dagmar | I'd make it grey out all the other radio buttons |
| 03:54.42 | Dagmar | ...in an assumedly active state. Right now they just all look off. |
| 03:55.08 | Semlar | wha |
| 03:55.09 | Dagmar | If it were the only thing lit you could pretty much stick it at either end and it would be obvious what it's doing. |
| 03:55.45 | Dagmar | Like, when Show Everything is active, if all the other radio buttons had the same marker in the middle, but dark gray instead of yellow. |
| 03:56.13 | Semlar | that is going to be a lot of trouble to implement |
| 03:56.19 | Dagmar | ...cuz with most UI's if it's a little round radio button, it's either filled or empty, or it has a dot in it or it doesn't. |
| 03:57.13 | Semlar | this is literally however the default ui displays a selected item in the dropdown menus |
| 03:57.39 | Dagmar | Yeah but it's purpose overrides the rest, so it's probably not something you'd want to load into the same list as the rest anyway |
| 03:58.45 | Dagmar | With it as a member of the list drop-down as well as what's showing at the very top, it's a bit confusing |
| 04:00.25 | Semlar | i'll fix it later |
| 04:03.53 | karl_w_w | http://imgur.com/Leqcwv8 that hearthstone opening hand |
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| 04:04.17 | Semlar | have you considered making a deck that can attack |
| 04:04.30 | Dagmar | Heh |
| 04:05.23 | Dagmar | You need one that can do Splash. |
| 04:05.35 | Semlar | it's not very effective.. |
| 04:05.45 | karl_w_w | ancient watchers can attack Semlar :P |
| 04:05.56 | karl_w_w | do you play, wanna duel this deck? |
| 04:05.58 | Semlar | it clearly says it can't attack |
| 04:06.05 | Dagmar | It says right there on the card: "Can't Attack" |
| 04:06.19 | Semlar | i don't play hearthstone |
| 04:06.23 | Dagmar | ...but I'm sure that would definitely mindfuck the other guy if it could |
| 04:06.32 | karl_w_w | you can silence it |
| 04:17.38 | airtonix | anyone know what font the aviate launcher is using? |
| 04:18.09 | Semlar | do you have a screenshot |
| 04:19.05 | airtonix | http://aviate.totemapp.com/company |
| 04:19.12 | airtonix | http://s3.amazonaws.com/totem_production/assets/screenshots/5480/original/4.Morning.png?1381844119 |
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| 04:19.25 | airtonix | http://s3.amazonaws.com/totem_production/assets/screenshots/5482/original/6.Location.png?1381844180 |
| 04:19.28 | kullervo | airtonix: http://www.myfonts.com/WhatTheFont/ |
| 04:19.31 | airtonix | http://s3.amazonaws.com/totem_production/assets/screenshots/5481/original/5.Work.png?1381844153 |
| 04:19.43 | Semlar | which font |
| 04:20.27 | airtonix | hangon, even though it might be the same i want to know exachry which one |
| 04:20.55 | Dagmar | You could probably pull it out of the APK |
| 04:21.30 | Semlar | it's hard to say if all the text is the same font because it uses different weights |
| 04:22.22 | airtonix | i'm uploading a screen shot with a good reference |
| 04:24.42 | Dagmar | If you actually have the app, use Ti to drag it out to your SD card and then just open it with 7zip or something |
| 04:24.56 | airtonix | https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-WzWXoxKajQY/UrEjZJRjNpI/AAAAAAAAB5I/yfvGoEKwgAI/w520-h867-no/2013-12-17 |
| 04:25.09 | airtonix | in the buttons |
| 04:28.15 | airtonix | kullervo: yeah i tried that before... guess i have to cut it up or do what Dagmar said |
| 04:28.21 | airtonix | i'll just use adb |
| 04:28.23 | Dagmar | I'm doing it now. |
| 04:28.29 | Semlar | it looks like a variation of helvetica |
| 04:28.57 | airtonix | you sure? helvetica doesn't have that kind of uppercase R |
| 04:29.10 | Dagmar | Something called Gotham and GothamNarrow |
| 04:29.27 | Dagmar | Yep. http://www.typography.com/fonts/gotham/overview/ |
| 04:29.38 | Dagmar | Several variants in otf format ship in the APK |
| 04:29.40 | airtonix | ffff it's not opensource |
| 04:30.05 | Dagmar | https://www.google.com/search?q=gotham+font figures |
| 04:30.59 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:31.14 | airtonix | guess i could use monsetserrat |
| 04:31.24 | airtonix | monster |
| 04:31.25 | airtonix | rat |
| 04:31.27 | airtonix | :> |
| 04:31.59 | Shadowed | Funkeh` wat |
| 04:32.29 | Dagmar | carefully deletes every bit of the questionable APK |
| 04:32.32 | Shadowed | Funkeh` how the fuck did you find units.lua:190 |
| 04:33.57 | airtonix | Dagmar: want some lols about questionable? http://unhandledexpression.com/2013/12/17/telegram-stand-back-we-know-maths/ |
| 04:34.06 | airtonix | lol'd |
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| 04:35.10 | Dagmar | Impressive |
| 04:35.12 | airtonix | I first saw this sentiment here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6913456 |
| 04:35.29 | Dagmar | I worry more about things like what a friend of mine ran into trying to install a "hack" for Ingress, which he got from a Chinese app store. |
| 04:35.45 | Dagmar | Let's just say it asked for root, he was stupid, and when he tried to remove it, _it fought back_ |
| 04:35.53 | Shadowed | oh wait |
| 04:36.04 | Shadowed | the global check only calls SETGLOBAL not GETGLOBAL cause GETGLOBAL is way too much god damn effort |
| 04:36.05 | Shadowed | that's right |
| 04:36.21 | airtonix | gais i wrote a new rot13 encryption |
| 04:36.26 | airtonix | leetscure |
| 04:36.51 | Dagmar | People have been releasing poorly thought out crypto for many, many years |
| 04:37.40 | Shadowed | Funkeh` did you just run a luac on everything and check GETGLOBAL and filtered out the normal stuff |
| 04:37.42 | Shadowed | I assume so |
| 04:39.24 | Shadowed | god this global and local check code are awful |
| 04:39.26 | Shadowed | I should rewrite it |
| 04:49.55 | fewyn | http://americanlivewire.com/justin-bieber-quitting-music-10-2445/ |
| 04:50.55 | Trela | Headline is a question, answer is always NO. |
| 05:08.00 | airtonix | what's he moving into? prostitution? |
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| 05:20.32 | Mr_Rabies | man my armory activity feed randomly stopped updating 4 days ago O_o |
| 05:24.03 | kd3 | mm, bad armory. don't show spells you're not supposed to show |
| 05:24.42 | Mr_Rabies | oh, hmm |
| 05:24.46 | Mr_Rabies | cache issue it seems |
| 05:25.00 | Mr_Rabies | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/llane/Raybeez/feed |
| 05:25.04 | Mr_Rabies | i gots all the loots! |
| 05:25.25 | Mr_Rabies | i forgot to DE the raid loot this week so i gotta look it up on here, lol |
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| 07:30.52 | Corv | So I guess CRITERIA_UPDATE doesn't tell you what updated, that's cool. |
| 07:32.10 | airtonix | why would you want to know ? |
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| 07:36.47 | Corv | If the player makes progress on an achievement, and I'm trying to log that progress... |
| 07:37.00 | Corv | I'd have to rescan everything to pick up the update. |
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| 08:42.20 | jleclanche | wow. |
| 08:43.19 | jleclanche | i just got refunded for an expensive item i had bought on amazon a few weeks back |
| 08:43.27 | jleclanche | for no apparent reason |
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| 09:07.46 | Maldivia | got the item as well? |
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| 09:11.29 | jleclanche | Maldivia: yeah |
| 09:11.34 | jleclanche | ive had the item for a week |
| 09:11.55 | jleclanche | and i just got an email that they couldnt deliver it to me so they're refunding it in full |
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| 09:12.25 | Maldivia | merry christmas :) |
| 09:13.15 | jleclanche | hehe |
| 09:20.01 | mikma | http://imgur.com/gallery/t6HDWDo |
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| 09:21.54 | Mr_Rabies | is there any way to tell who has removed you from a group? any addons that list that info if so? |
| 09:22.09 | Mr_Rabies | getting tired of pug trolls booting everyone |
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| 09:35.36 | mikma | afaik that's not public information |
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| 09:52.35 | zenzio | "How many linux users does it take to change a lightbulb? Why would you change a lightbulb? You're not using your house right." |
| 09:56.25 | Mr_Rabies | lightbulbs are just marketing junk, i make my own out of old beer bottles and scrap metal |
| 09:58.40 | Mr_Rabies | i think it's perfectly normal to require a glassblowing and metalworking skillset to do something simple like light your house |
| 10:21.50 | airtonix | that's mac users Mr_Rabies. total hipsters |
| 10:22.03 | airtonix | we did shit before shit was done. |
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| 10:32.11 | karl_w_w | http://imgur.com/gallery/bvGlzGl this could have been you airtonix |
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| 11:03.41 | mikma | karl_w_w: that reminds me of the stabbing -scene from Punisher :D |
| 11:03.47 | mikma | karl_w_w: "it's really starting to hurt" |
| 11:07.05 | mikma | also, best torture scene, eveeeeeeer! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfMO0E-AUK4 |
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| 12:18.17 | pompy1 | "Dear customer, This is an automated notification sent from our account security system. You logined your account successfully at 4:27 on twelve 10th form the 125.87.108.* range, but our system shows the 125.10.151.* IP range exists a large number of hackers. As too many customer complaints, the 125.98.104.* IP range has been blacklisted." |
| 12:18.23 | pompy1 | "logined" lol |
| 12:18.26 | pompy1 | a Blizzard email |
| 12:18.32 | pompy1 | nice try hackers! |
| 12:20.04 | zenzio | "125.87.108.*", "125.10.151.*", "125.98.104.*" |
| 12:20.14 | zenzio | why bother being consistent |
| 12:20.40 | pompy1 | haha |
| 12:22.00 | pompy1 | the subject was "Blizzard Entertainment IP restrictions" |
| 12:23.25 | nevcairiel | these mails are always so obviously wrong |
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| 12:25.46 | pompy1 | indeed |
| 12:27.20 | haste | pompy1: on twelve 10th form |
| 12:27.23 | haste | I don't even. |
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| 12:31.22 | pompy1 | haste: INDEED! |
| 12:37.07 | Fisker | haste |
| 12:37.15 | haste | Fisker. |
| 12:37.15 | Fisker | pls pompy1 |
| 12:37.31 | Fisker | actually pls zenzio |
| 12:37.37 | Fisker | I pointed that out years ago |
| 12:38.05 | zenzio | not all of us are as advanced as you Fisker |
| 12:38.14 | Fisker | It's like "You were hacked from IP range A, there are a lot of hackers on IP range B, so we decided to ban a lot of innocent people from IP range C" |
| 12:38.17 | Fisker | It's awesome |
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| 12:49.27 | jnwhiteh | I got this letter from blizzard, I should probably change my password on this website that the email links tol. |
| 12:50.57 | airtonix | a letter or an email? |
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| 12:57.48 | Fisker | hey jnwhiteh |
| 12:58.42 | Fisker | damnit |
| 12:58.55 | Fisker | Why must male coworkers mail me "It would be an honor to touch it and turn it on" |
| 12:59.08 | airtonix | with a lisp? |
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| 13:51.37 | Maldivia | https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BbrCZxtCQAA_33R.png -- I think I'll skip :) |
| 13:52.53 | Neffi | lol wow |
| 13:54.35 | zenzio | hah |
| 13:54.55 | zenzio | well, it could be a blessing in disguise |
| 13:55.34 | Fisker | nice Maldivia |
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| 14:23.11 | zenzio | ahoy peppy |
| 14:24.45 | Lopeppeppy | Yo ho. |
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| 14:48.51 | Fisker | oh hai Lopeppeppy |
| 14:49.16 | Lopeppeppy | Morning, Fiskerdin. |
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| 15:03.01 | Neffi | http://imgur.com/gallery/8yJox |
| 15:03.51 | Neffi | http://i.imgur.com/1H6TCwR.png :) |
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| 15:13.09 | zenzio | that Australia thing is just sad |
| 15:16.17 | jleclanche | Shirik: I LOVE IT. |
| 15:16.24 | jleclanche | Shirik: the G930 is perfect |
| 15:16.28 | jleclanche | testing range now |
| 15:16.47 | zenzio | those were the wireless Logitechs? |
| 15:17.00 | jleclanche | yes |
| 15:17.19 | jleclanche | and the range is slightly longer on unclear Los |
| 15:17.31 | jleclanche | I cant test with clear Los but this is perfect. |
| 15:17.59 | zenzio | I keep hearing good things about them. Personally I didn't like them; they ended up hurting my ears after some hours; but I believe it was some combination with my glasses |
| 15:23.01 | Dagmar | Yeah, wireless headsets with cushions that do not function like some kind of demented brain clamp are few and far between |
| 15:24.28 | Dagmar | Hmm... "Four 18-millimeter MOVs provide an energy absorption rating of 720 Joules, making the 5280 powerful and reliable." |
| 15:24.31 | Lopeppeppy | Glasses + headphones = eeeevil |
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| 15:25.04 | karl_w_w | so judgemental Lopeppeppy! |
| 15:25.18 | Lopeppeppy | Hell yes. |
| 15:25.31 | Dagmar | So... if you were to cross the room holding a cat while wearing a sweater, you could pop that thing |
| 15:26.50 | karl_w_w | http://imgur.com/gallery/vcHFj |
| 15:29.00 | Fisker | Get Google Glass Lopeppeppy :( |
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| 15:38.35 | Lopeppeppy | I'd eat that ice cream. But I wouldn't wear google glass. |
| 15:41.55 | Dagmar | The key to Google Glass is to make sure the rest of what your wearing ensures the people around you find it to be the least of their worries |
| 15:42.22 | Fisker | I thought you were evil Lopeppeppy :( |
| 15:42.25 | Dagmar | Like, no one says shit to someone wearing Google Glass when it's possible they might have mutliple shotguns hidden under their coat |
| 15:42.43 | Lopeppeppy | I can't be evil, I have no soul. I'm a redhead. |
| 15:42.54 | Neffi | "Sir, you're gonna have to remove the recording device and check all firearms." |
| 15:43.02 | Lopeppeppy | Google Glass doesn't come in prescription lenses yet. I can't wear it. |
| 15:43.13 | Dagmar | puts down Google Glass and flexes. |
| 15:43.15 | Dagmar | Done. |
| 15:43.24 | Neffi | cheesy |
| 15:43.29 | Dagmar | hehe |
| 15:44.45 | Neffi | http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/12/one-charger-to-power-nearly-every-laptop-coming-from-standards-group/ |
| 15:45.02 | Fisker | Well Lopeppeppy for people with souls that seems kind of evil |
| 15:45.11 | Fisker | also it's $1500 |
| 15:45.14 | Fisker | so there's that |
| 15:45.17 | Dagmar | Lopeppeppy: You can't wear contact lenses? |
| 15:45.26 | Lopeppeppy | Dagmar, I cannot. |
| 15:45.29 | Maldivia | Neffi: except Apple I assume? |
| 15:45.31 | Dagmar | gasps |
| 15:45.39 | Neffi | Maldivia: Standard ~= law |
| 15:45.58 | Dagmar | You have my condolences |
| 15:46.02 | Fisker | not even if I poke you in the eyes with contact lenses Lopeppeppy? |
| 15:46.07 | Neffi | Also isn't micro-B the ``legal'' charger in EU? What happens when micro-C becomes popular? |
| 15:46.36 | Maldivia | Neffi: I know, I know -- just assuming that Apple will not be using that standard, unless ofcourse they can convince everyone else to use MagSafe |
| 15:46.38 | Lopeppeppy | Fisker, that would hurt. I have nerve endings, just not a soul. |
| 15:46.42 | Dagmar | I know that my eyesight is so bad that, well, I need contact lenses just so I don't have to play the "find where the fuck I put my glasses last night by touch alone" game |
| 15:46.42 | Fisker | ah |
| 15:46.57 | Fisker | Neffi presumably they would work towards Micro-C being the new standard beforehand |
| 15:46.59 | Neffi | Maldivia: I think magsafe is a better idea. |
| 15:47.05 | Neffi | It's the best idea Apple ever stole |
| 15:47.08 | Fisker | if not they can just do what Apple does anyway |
| 15:47.14 | Dagmar | Lopeppeppy; Yes, but IIRC, you're as cute as a bag full of kittens so it's okay if you don't have a soul |
| 15:47.33 | Fisker | well duh |
| 15:47.55 | Lopeppeppy | Except when alestane meeps my nose, I'm usually quite a cuddly thing. Unless I'm trying to blow Shirik up or picking Esamynn|work's pocket. |
| 15:47.58 | Maldivia | Neffi: agree that it's really nice |
| 15:48.15 | Fisker | what is meeping a nose? |
| 15:48.32 | Neffi | It's sad that they probably have patents on magsafe from here to Japan, considering they stole it from a Japanese teapot company |
| 15:48.52 | Lopeppeppy | When someone pokes you in the nose and says "meep" or "beep" or "boop" or any other cute noise. |
| 15:49.12 | Neffi | Just remember: patent law is the reason your product lacks safety features |
| 15:49.13 | Fisker | ah |
| 15:49.18 | Fisker | No boop'ing of Lopeppeppy's |
| 15:49.20 | Fisker | I get it |
| 15:49.33 | Lopeppeppy | That makes me bitey. |
| 15:49.40 | karl_w_w | http://i.4cdn.org/b/src/1387381588758.jpg says it all |
| 15:49.47 | Fisker | oh nice |
| 15:50.44 | Dagmar | Patent law is, in general, the reason we can't have nice things |
| 15:50.46 | Fisker | strikes through "no" |
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| 16:06.45 | Thunder_Child | ~ping |
| 16:06.46 | purl | ~pong |
| 16:07.22 | Fisker | ~ping |
| 16:07.23 | purl | ~pong |
| 16:07.25 | Fisker | oops |
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| 16:08.03 | purl | ~pong |
| 16:08.51 | TC-Work | Wow, massive latency at work |
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| 16:10.11 | TC-Work | ~ping |
| 16:10.11 | purl | ~pong |
| 16:10.29 | TC-Work | 7 seconds of latency....great |
| 16:12.05 | Maldivia | CTCP reply from TC-Work: PING 2.236 seconds |
| 16:12.51 | haste | that relies on localtime doesn't it? |
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| 16:13.36 | Maldivia | I send a timestamp to him, and compares to localtime when I get it back |
| 16:13.40 | haste | yes it does |
| 16:14.01 | nevcairiel | why wouldn't you compare roundtime |
| 16:15.26 | Dagmar | It is basically measuring round trip time |
| 16:15.57 | Dagmar | It's just convenient to send epoch seconds as the body because it means you don't have to keep track of when you sent the PING |
| 16:16.17 | Dagmar | ...and yes, this does allow people to somehow always seem to have 1337 seconds of lag |
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| 16:27.30 | jleclanche | Shirik: i like that the charging port is on the left of the headset. although it is a bit tricky to plug in without looking but maybe ill get used to it |
| 16:27.44 | jleclanche | Shirik: but the headset itself makes my ears sweat which is very uncomfortable |
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| 16:38.38 | Stanzilla | jleclanche: do you still use windows somewhere? |
| 16:38.46 | jleclanche | barely why? |
| 16:39.43 | Stanzilla | because you complained about fonts in chrome and on windows you can get super sexy directwrite fonts now |
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| 17:01.29 | Lopeppeppy | ~staple unkle |
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| 17:01.41 | Unkle | gorram freenode |
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| 19:03.46 | Neffi | If you're interested in ESO, EJ is gonna be hosting an AMA/QA session with ESO's PvP developer today |
| 19:03.47 | Neffi | http://forums.elitistjerks.com/index.php?/topic/132215-dec-18th-4pm-est-exclusive-qa-with-zenimax-studios-pvp-developer-brian-wheeler/ |
| 19:04.00 | Neffi | starts in 2 hours |
| 19:04.09 | kd3 | on EJ? heh |
| 19:04.37 | Neffi | yeah, surprising |
| 19:04.55 | Dagmar | Maybe he'll be able to explain what they're going to tell stockholders when the unfinished game drops as scheduled in the spring an infuriates millions of die hard fans of the frnacise |
| 19:05.03 | Neffi | It is what it is. At least we'll most likely get a lot of info about ESO's PvP |
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| 19:11.16 | jleclanche | Shirik: I withdraw everything i said. this piece of shit headset just burned my food |
| 19:12.05 | jleclanche | maybe i shouldnt wear it in the kitchen where i rely on sound so much to estimate the food |
| 19:12.06 | jleclanche | but STILL. |
| 19:12.24 | kd3 | of course, blame the headset |
| 19:12.32 | fewyn | it's your fault |
| 19:12.38 | fewyn | ALL YOUR FAULT |
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| 19:13.11 | jleclanche | seriously, the sound isolation is really good |
| 19:13.16 | jleclanche | i can barely hear my keyboard |
| 19:13.18 | jleclanche | and its a das |
| 19:15.28 | Stanzilla | wow client patch |
| 19:15.51 | TC-Work | jleclanche: I have a ducky and my boss keeps telling me to get a new one. |
| 19:16.11 | Lopeppeppy | Rubber ducky? |
| 19:16.20 | jleclanche | Maldivia: sloppy |
| 19:16.30 | TC-Work | or rather, a quieter one |
| 19:16.31 | jleclanche | Maldivia: i hit the client patch on wow startup before i got your email |
| 19:16.39 | TC-Work | No Lopeppeppy, not rubber. |
| 19:17.30 | Lopeppeppy | jumps in and out of the bathtub, pretending to be a lemon. |
| 19:20.00 | fewyn | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOq4IiuRMWk&feature=youtu.be |
| 19:20.29 | Seerah | TC-Work: http://i01.i.aliimg.com/photo/v0/489036719/2011_Best_selling_plush_stuffing_toy_duck.jpg_220x220.jpg ?\ |
| 19:21.06 | TC-Work | Thats not creepy or anything Seerah |
| 19:21.11 | Seerah | hehehe |
| 19:21.35 | Lopeppeppy | I think you'd look cute in plushy ear muffs, TC. |
| 19:21.37 | Seerah | I think it's less creepy than Lopeppeppy pretending to be a lemon :p |
| 19:21.57 | Lopeppeppy | What? I'm creepy when I'm being a djinn 'n tjonix? |
| 19:22.03 | kd3 | huh, must be important if they just pushed it to both regions |
| 19:23.55 | Stanzilla | I predict font file changes, kd3 |
| 19:25.34 | kd3 | ! they actually changed the ui this build |
| 19:25.37 | kd3 | logs in to gmail... |
| 19:25.57 | Stanzilla | zomg |
| 19:27.25 | kd3 | emails away |
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| 19:33.45 | kd3 | lessee... don't see any font changes. a model got tweaked and a bunch of world edits |
| 19:35.00 | Maldivia | jleclanche: hehe, not by much :) |
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| 19:36.14 | Stanzilla | Imma bad predictor :( |
| 19:37.21 | TC-Work | ~fail Stanzilla |
| 19:37.21 | purl | Stanzilla, you Fail! |
| 19:37.39 | Maldivia | jleclanche: the EU mail was send 20:10 |
| 19:39.44 | Maldivia | jleclanche: the agressive scanner only checks US |
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| 19:46.50 | Maldivia | what exploit/crash did they patvh, since pushing at this time on both regions? |
| 19:47.19 | Ressy | 'Shop' added to game menu |
| 19:47.49 | Ressy | per Funkeh` |
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| 19:48.17 | Maldivia | was alreeady in minimenu though? |
| 19:48.53 | Ressy | yup |
| 19:49.07 | kd3 | the ui change was conditional visibility for various things in the game menu |
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| 19:50.30 | kd3 | ...which was already in, just in a different format. huh |
| 19:53.29 | Maldivia | that change doesn't really warrent a peak hour patch though... |
| 19:54.19 | Semlar | says you |
| 19:54.44 | Torhal | swaps Semlar's big toes. |
| 19:54.57 | Semlar | :l |
| 19:57.14 | Funkeh` | nah that was just an "extra" |
| 19:57.17 | Neffi | silly Semlar |
| 19:57.21 | Funkeh` | the patch was obviously to fix something game related |
| 19:57.26 | Neffi | you don't know the arcane going-on of Blizzard HQ |
| 19:57.28 | Funkeh` | and like you said most likely an exploit |
| 19:57.43 | Semlar | exploits neffi |
| 19:58.01 | TC-Work | Twice |
| 19:58.09 | Neffi | falls victim to a zero-day exploit. |
| 19:58.10 | Funkeh` | it's funny though how they attach that change to this patch, yet something drastic like the parental controls taint has to wait for 5.4.2 |
| 19:58.12 | Funkeh` | like wtf |
| 19:58.12 | Neffi | becomes a botnet. |
| 19:58.54 | Maldivia | shop = money |
| 20:01.45 | Torhal | Remember Jay Wilson's Diablo III! |
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| 20:03.28 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:04.05 | Neffi | That video is not available. |
| 20:04.25 | foxlit | where are you, Censoristan? |
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| 20:05.15 | TC-Work | foxlit: The US |
| 20:05.17 | Neffi | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2zlPNGuPbw |
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| 20:06.10 | foxlit | heh, so usually it's the reverse. Sweet vengeance, then? |
| 20:06.46 | Neffi | terk err verderos |
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| 20:10.06 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:10.39 | TC-Work | foxlit: No? |
| 20:10.42 | Semlar | dis good enuf |
| 20:10.48 | Neffi | Semlar: I'd make just a couple tweaks |
| 20:10.57 | Semlar | no tweaks for you |
| 20:11.22 | Neffi | `-` between the level range boxes. Remove "set comment" button: it should just register whatever is entered. |
| 20:11.35 | Neffi | looks good tho |
| 20:12.05 | foxlit | better: merge the two level range input boxes into one. |
| 20:12.27 | foxlit | parse contents to accept both ranges and single levels. |
| 20:12.43 | Neffi | I like the idea of smart interpretation. Be able to enter "85+", "85-90", "85" (for JUST that level) but that's not intuitive to most |
| 20:12.48 | Neffi | Dual box makes it more obvious |
| 20:13.22 | Semlar | dis is gonna need a manual |
| 20:13.31 | TC-Work | Or a tooltip |
| 20:13.34 | Semlar | NEVER |
| 20:13.45 | foxlit | or just the placeholder text. |
| 20:13.46 | Neffi | If it needs an explanation, then it's not ideal for the average user IMO |
| 20:13.48 | Neffi | I'd leave it |
| 20:14.24 | foxlit | showing a gray "0-90" goes a long way to illustrating the main functionality; the other behaviours you can discover by experimenting. |
| 20:14.42 | Neffi | If you want to support advanced things, the better dedication of development resources is regex/patterns on the filter input =P |
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| 20:22.36 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:23.15 | Semlar | you can have a placebo refresh button |
| 20:25.23 | Semlar | when you hover over something in the list it'll show a "join" button on it |
| 20:26.16 | Semlar | and when you click that it puts you in the list of people they can invite |
| 20:26.44 | Semlar | i could automate this but i'm not sure that's what people want |
| 20:33.43 | Semlar | i need to work out merging two groups too |
| 20:34.41 | Semlar | i should be able to see everyone that's in the group in the browser |
| 20:35.14 | Semlar | so i should be able to disband the group and invite everyone that was in it |
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| 20:54.51 | kd3 | I'm kinda surprised there's not a mod for the "Going To Need A Bigger Bag" achievement |
| 20:55.01 | kd3 | "you can get x from y mob in this subzone" kinda thing |
| 20:58.55 | foxlit | kd3: it seems somewhat of an awkward thing to addon-ize. |
| 21:00.01 | foxlit | It's slightly unclear what an addon would do you for you that a guide you found on the internet wouldn't, and the latter requires no installation or updates. |
| 21:01.50 | kd3 | the biggest thing would be -- mouse over a mob, see an achievement criterion item on the tooltip, the way some collector mods used to |
| 21:02.31 | foxlit | but isn't the approach to the isle basically "kill everything you see" anyway? |
| 21:03.44 | kd3 | to a point, it does me no good to kill a mob I've already gotten the rare item from unless I'm just grinding for coins |
| 21:04.32 | foxlit | we should probably get off our asses and publish guides based on wowpedia content. |
| 21:04.42 | zenzelezz | Firefox eventually using 1.5 GB of RAM doesn't surprise me (dozens of tabs over three or four weeks), Chrome using some hundreds also expected... but Catalyst Control Center taking 1 GB I can't even begin to fathom |
| 21:07.29 | foxlit | stuff like "here's how you complete every quest in this zone"; "here's where you need to go for this achievement" etc |
| 21:07.51 | kd3 | that would be pretty useful |
| 21:07.53 | Neffi | I heard AMD (wanted to | is going to | already got is) get(ting) into making RAM. Maybe it's an evil ploy to get you to spend more money on it. |
| 21:09.30 | Corv | kd3: There is an addon. I made it. http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info22525-ABiggerBag.html |
| 21:09.55 | Corv | And yeah, it is basically just a criterion-in-tooltip thing. |
| 21:10.46 | foxlit | latex has like the most annoying error messages. |
| 21:11.00 | foxlit | "Latex Error: ./bloom.tex:94 Undefined control sequence."Line 94: "\end{frame}" |
| 21:13.07 | zenzelezz | I'm sure latex and C++ could fight it out |
| 21:13.26 | zenzelezz | specifically, template errors |
| 21:13.50 | Dagmar | Jesus christ LaTeX has suport for bloom now? |
| 21:13.55 | Dagmar | shoots himself |
| 21:14.05 | zenzelezz | you're so behind the times Dagmar |
| 21:14.08 | zenzelezz | it has native HDR |
| 21:14.17 | Dagmar | gibbers with horror |
| 21:14.32 | kd3 | the fuck? |
| 21:15.35 | Neffi | somebody needs to write a game engine that renders to TeX |
| 21:15.45 | Dagmar | libcaca is already pretty bad |
| 21:16.16 | Neffi | that's already a bad name. it sounds too similar too -- .... *looks at their logo* -- nevermind |
| 21:16.29 | foxlit | For obvious reasons, you should probably not extrapolate too much from file names. |
| 21:17.40 | Dagmar | Neffi: Heh |
| 21:18.45 | Neffi | http://imgur.com/gallery/BifHL |
| 21:19.13 | Neffi | the script looks *mostly* valid |
| 21:19.38 | Dagmar | The formatting and indenting leaves a bit to be desired, tho |
| 21:19.59 | Neffi | What I gather from this is, if I continue pursuing my comp sci degree, I may actually get a job -- as a cake decorator |
| 21:20.28 | Dagmar | It could happen |
| 21:20.44 | Dagmar | I know a girl who got hers and is now an acupuncturist |
| 21:21.04 | Dagmar | It's kind of like debugging. |
| 21:22.10 | Dagmar | Apollo should be able to do it, and it's the "does everything" player that tries to do the things Google Play does, but for Cyanogenmod |
| 21:22.13 | Dagmar | @#$@R$ wrong chanell |
| 21:24.32 | Arrowmaster | ah damnit i missed the secret of magic crystals steamlug event |
| 21:41.40 | jleclanche | Arrowmaster, Maldivia: http://satwcomic.com/im-a-doctor |
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| 21:54.48 | Gethe | lol it seems blizz isn't keen on all the addons removing the shop microbutton. They added a button the the Esc menu too |
| 21:55.05 | Gethe | to the* |
| 22:00.07 | foxlit | meh. |
| 22:00.15 | foxlit | If they wanted it to be unremovable, they could've done that. |
| 22:00.26 | foxlit | There's sufficient evil in the client for that now. |
| 22:03.15 | Neffi | "The only way the shop can be removed is to carry it whence it was made, to cast it into the fires of Blizzard HQ" |
| 22:11.42 | kd3 | the problem is, they added the button but didn't change the size of the menu |
| 22:12.45 | foxlit | I'm not sure why that is a problem. |
| 22:12.51 | foxlit | Didn't they also get rid of a button at the same time? |
| 22:14.25 | kd3 | poor form, blizz. http://wowpedia.org/File:Game_menu_5.4.2.jpg |
| 22:15.05 | Maldivia | jleclanche: saw it earlier today :P |
| 22:17.11 | Semlar | you know it doesn't seem like blizzard is very good at their own ui |
| 22:19.38 | nevcairiel_ | kd3: disable the addon that adds the AddOns button and check again |
| 22:19.42 | nevcairiel_ | it looks fine in default ui :p |
| 22:19.51 | kd3 | oh, oops. acp's on |
| 22:19.55 | Gethe | that SS has one extra button "AddOns" |
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| 22:23.06 | Maldivia | kd3: looks fine on mac |
| 22:24.17 | kd3 | it's because I had acp on. refresh, I've got a proper version uploaded |
| 22:26.10 | Torhal | It must be cached. |
| 22:26.37 | foxlit | yes, it's Cursed. |
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| 22:27.59 | foxlit | It's been three years, and that platform is still horrible at handling cache expiration for what it considers to be static content. |
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| 22:52.52 | Gnarfoz | you mean: nothing actually happened |
| 22:53.50 | Gnarfoz | unless Torhal actually meant "weird, I'm not seeing your new upload at all! Getting the old version. It must be cached." |
| 22:55.03 | kd3 | huh. can't decide if bug or trolling. huolon got pulled, then immediately headed west through the celestial court and the beach flying off to the mainland |
| 22:55.23 | Gnarfoz | he just had better things to do. :D |
| 22:57.45 | nevcairiel | seriously, he cant be arsed to be a punching bag for all those raiders every day |
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| 22:58.19 | Corv | I'm tempted to point the finger and someone with the Falling Flame trinket. |
| 22:58.27 | Corv | s/and/at/ |
| 22:58.44 | Torhal | Gnarfoz: I was seeing the old version |
| 22:58.56 | Gnarfoz | Torhal: way to rain on my parade! :< |
| 22:59.15 | Gnarfoz | =p |
| 22:59.18 | nevcairiel | thats what ctrl-f5 is for |
| 22:59.28 | Gnarfoz | it might be |
| 22:59.34 | Gnarfoz | but it also means foxlit was right :P |
| 22:59.46 | nevcairiel | sure, curse infra sucks, thats no news |
| 23:00.15 | Gnarfoz | I'm prone to giving the benefit of the doubt |
| 23:00.27 | kd3 | oh wow, found huolon's corpse all the way in jf |
| 23:00.52 | foxlit | I would say it sucks unusually much for an actual web company that employs multiple actual web developers. |
| 23:01.14 | Gnarfoz | you'd can't have much real-world experience |
| 23:01.19 | nevcairiel | foxlit: but they just work on adding new stuff, they dont maintain their old things much |
| 23:01.22 | Gnarfoz | if you think those things relate at all |
| 23:01.48 | nevcairiel | or they re-write curse.com once again, just to produce a website that needs rebuilding next year again :) |
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| 23:02.21 | nevcairiel | last i heard they actually had trouble filling some developer positions |
| 23:02.37 | Gnarfoz | always new sites to be made, more ad-space to be created |
| 23:02.46 | foxlit | Gnarfoz: let's put it this way: there are better-run single-hobbyist fansites. Perhaps that's not unusual in business, but it's depressing, and it shouldn't be that way. |
| 23:03.00 | nevcairiel | hobbyists care |
| 23:03.03 | nevcairiel | companies do not |
| 23:03.03 | Gnarfoz | ^ |
| 23:03.20 | nevcairiel | and yes, its depressing, but thats life |
| 23:03.26 | Gnarfoz | and hobbyists are more likely to fiddle with stuff until it's just right... companies? :shipit: |
| 23:03.58 | Gnarfoz | there's probably a cross-over point somewhere, small startups? |
| 23:04.32 | foxlit | nevcairiel: "never settle" is surely someone's trademark |
| 23:07.59 | nevcairiel | boss in my old company said "80% is good enough" and "keep the lights on", in response to questions regarding how much energy to put into things |
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| 23:53.03 | pompy1 | https://www.fedex.com/fedextrack/?tracknumbers=403934081946113&cntry_code=us&language=english huh, that time zone selection box makes no sense! unless im missing something |
| 23:55.20 | Semlar-Laptop | makes sense to me |
| 23:55.57 | pompy1 | but destination changes by 5 hrs from "local scan time" does it not? |
| 23:57.54 | Semlar-Laptop | "local scan time" appears to be the same as GMT -5 |
| 23:58.42 | pompy1 | dunno it seems to go from 3:49am to 8:49am |
| 23:58.44 | pompy1 | oh well |
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| 23:58.55 | Semlar-Laptop | yeah, go to Others and pick -5 |
| 23:59.17 | Semlar-Laptop | they clearly just have the wrong time zones for everything |
