| 00:00.00 | kd3 | jaedong, finally the bride |
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| 00:41.43 | Shirik | that moment |
| 00:41.46 | Shirik | when you're playing KSP |
| 00:42.04 | Shirik | and you successfully orbit another planet, do research |
| 00:42.16 | Shirik | go to transmit, and find out you forgot to include an antenna |
| 00:42.41 | kd3 | haha. you don't have enough delta-v to get home, do you? |
| 00:42.56 | Shirik | no it was supposed to be a permanent satellite ._. |
| 00:54.18 | Neffi | what game? |
| 00:54.57 | Neffi | oh, wow, nvm |
| 01:01.15 | Amarande | hah |
| 01:01.42 | Amarande | that's probably up there on the epic fail scale with a satellite falling on the floor in an earthbound facility |
| 01:01.57 | Amarande | (which has apparently happened at least once in real life, with costs greater than the total value of many major corporations LOL) |
| 01:02.37 | Amarande | yup, literally "oops, we basically just dropped a billion bucks ..." (probably with "oh shit please don't fire me" a few hundred times after that, followed by said firing) |
| 01:03.02 | Neffi | It has happened. I remember watching something about that. |
| 01:03.19 | Neffi | The details fail me, but a NASA engineer has screwed up a major launch at least once |
| 01:03.24 | Amarande | Yeah, I remember that, but not the details. I wonder how many people had to go back to college for brand new careers after that one. |
| 01:04.03 | Iriel | I suspect firing would depend upon whether protocol was followed |
| 01:04.27 | Amarande | Iriel: yeah, but you can bet anyone involved immediately floated to the top of the list for the next set of layoffs |
| 01:05.00 | Amarande | and probably will have their resume used as toilet paper at any company they try to apply for a similar job at afterwards :) |
| 01:05.36 | Amarande | "oh, sure, we'll hire the guy who managed to accidentally destroy a satellite worth more than our annual gross ... NOT" |
| 01:13.08 | airtonix | magnets |
| 01:15.19 | airtonix | Shirik: you should play Minecraft Tekkit, the goal is to build a spacecraft and land on the moon. |
| 01:15.42 | airtonix | http://www.technicpack.net/tekkit |
| 01:16.07 | airtonix | it's actually kind of awesomesauce |
| 01:17.40 | airtonix | can we get irc cloaks on espernet? |
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| 01:47.43 | Amarande | airtonix, that depends if the ircd supports it |
| 01:48.17 | Amarande | last time I was on espernet they used some fork of ancient dal4.4 |
| 01:48.22 | Amarande | though that was ages ago |
| 01:48.43 | Amarande | the cloaking thing seems to be mostly an undernet-originated invention, although ircd features do tend to spread readily |
| 02:09.58 | Iriel | Is there any difference between the steam KSP and the "full" one from their website? |
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| 02:34.36 | Amarande | yay I think my optical drive is presently biting the dust |
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| 03:09.37 | karl_w_w | holy hell assassin's creed 4 won best action adventure game |
| 03:09.43 | karl_w_w | how is that even possible |
| 03:11.03 | Amarande | yay I think my optical drive also destroys discs that are put in it, now |
| 03:11.05 | Amarande | :| |
| 03:12.43 | Amarande | karl: because "awards" in so many sectors are basically industry advertising events rather than honestly judged awards |
| 03:12.57 | Shirik | no Iriel |
| 03:13.06 | Amarande | it's the same with books, it's the primary reason why qualifications for book awards are designed so carefully to make it difficult or impossible for self published authors to be eligible |
| 03:13.12 | Shirik | in fact at one point they had allowed people to shift from the one on their website to steam (not anymore) |
| 03:13.27 | Amarande | because the awards themselves are intended to be horn-tooters for the major publishers to advertise their bestsellers |
| 03:13.27 | Iriel | Shirik: thanks |
| 03:13.47 | Iriel | Shirik: is it worth owning? |
| 03:13.49 | Amarande | allowing the self-published books in would basically cause them to be advertising their competition :P |
| 03:13.54 | Shirik | dunno |
| 03:13.59 | Shirik | at first I was like "this is meh" |
| 03:14.06 | Shirik | and then last night I gave it another chance |
| 03:14.09 | Shirik | and then it was 5:45 AM |
| 03:14.31 | Amarande | or the grammys, which seem to pretty much be sales figure based rather than any indication of musical art (especially when you consider that friggin Sexy Back managed to beat Madonna, the Pet Shop Boys, AND Depeche Mode for dance track that year :P) |
| 03:14.42 | Amarande | quite possibly the only honest media awards anymore are the Oscars |
| 03:15.12 | Amarande | which rarely if EVER tend to award the highest grossing movies, certainly |
| 03:15.22 | Neffi | They tend to be political though, Amarande |
| 03:15.46 | Neffi | I mean, to a certain extent they award honor. It's hard to get an oscar without deserving it. But it's easy to deserve it more than anyone and not get it |
| 03:16.24 | Neffi | But so be it. Let art and performance stand on its own merit, not on the back of some award. |
| 03:17.12 | Neffi | Also Amarande, mentioning book awards, what do you think of the Hugo and Locus awards? |
| 03:17.23 | Amarande | hm, been a while since I kept up with those |
| 03:17.38 | Neffi | Locus seems to have a lot of honestly good books on thme |
| 03:17.54 | Neffi | Not that I've read them all, but I've heard incredible things about most of the books that win |
| 03:18.08 | Amarande | yeah, a lot of book awards do go to really good books |
| 03:18.21 | Neffi | just not self published books |
| 03:18.32 | Amarande | it seems to be more a matter of people unhappy that a lot of good books never get a chance because of arcane eligibility rules |
| 03:18.38 | Neffi | But it also could be penetration. How many self published books actually garner wide enough audience? |
| 03:18.53 | Amarande | which, ultimately, are believed to be because the major publishers want to be able to use those awards as an advertising vehicle |
| 03:19.03 | Neffi | mayhaps |
| 03:19.12 | Amarande | and use the hackneyed canards about self-publishing quality as mainly an excuse to shut out competitors |
| 03:19.26 | Neffi | I think that part of unfair |
| 03:19.29 | Neffi | is |
| 03:19.44 | Amarande | sure 90% of self-published stuff is crap, so is 90% of major published stuff (two words: Fifty Shades :P) |
| 03:19.59 | Neffi | The quality of most books seems to follow a curve that favors shit. In other words, good books are the exception, not the rule, among big publishers too |
| 03:20.33 | Amarande | I've said it before, if you want a GOOD novel series that's BDSM based ... get Kushiel's Legacy. :) |
| 03:20.53 | Neffi | Fifty Shades isn't for people who want a good book |
| 03:21.08 | Amarande | anyway, I need to go downstairs |
| 03:21.12 | Amarande | so I can finish copying this stuff onto my hard drive |
| 03:21.18 | Neffi | airhg |
| 03:21.21 | Neffi | airhght |
| 03:21.21 | Amarande | because apparently this optical bit the dust |
| 03:21.22 | Neffi | aright |
| 03:21.34 | Amarande | so the only thing I can do is going to be copy it over on the other PC and then copy it via network to this one *sigh* |
| 03:22.12 | Amarande | and not only did the damn thing bit the dust, it looks like now it's scratching the label side of discs too |
| 03:22.18 | Amarande | I may have already lost at least one file for good |
| 03:26.17 | Neffi | I never trusted optical disks for back up. I dont really know why, but I feel like I'm more likely to lose my files to misfortune. |
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| 03:31.46 | Thunder_Child | Only sunlight |
| 03:32.03 | Neffi | con queso? |
| 03:32.30 | Thunder_Child | yes, with cheese |
| 03:33.13 | Neffi | =) |
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| 03:54.03 | Semlar | i was under the impression that discs were bad for backups because over long periods of time in storage the data could bleed or flow |
| 03:54.37 | Semlar | plus they can be easily damaged |
| 03:55.15 | Neffi | yes, they have a limited lifetime, probably because the data is etched in ink |
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| 04:36.43 | karl_w_w | it's 5-7 years max with good quality media |
| 04:44.03 | Amarande | Semlar: every form of media is 'bad for backups', ultimately |
| 04:44.16 | Amarande | there is no way to maintain data in the long run except by regularly moving it to a new medium, ultimately |
| 04:44.17 | Semlar | that's why i don't bother |
| 04:44.51 | Amarande | in any case, I had a fair amount of data on optical and now I have to wait for it to transfer over the wifi to this computer from the other PC |
| 04:44.58 | Amarande | you know what's weird, btw |
| 04:45.19 | Semlar | pistachios |
| 04:45.20 | Amarande | my android tablet and phone get 65 Mbps wireless only, and they're sitting right here a few feet from the router |
| 04:45.28 | Amarande | the other PC in the house is downstairs, the signal % actually lists as weaker on the router for it than the tablet and phone |
| 04:45.29 | Amarande | ... and it gets 130 Mbps |
| 04:45.55 | Amarande | like, wtf. |
| 04:45.58 | Semlar | the signal ratio mostly determines whether or not you're connected |
| 04:46.20 | Amarande | in any case, the computer downstairs gets twice the mbps of devices in this room, all of them on wireless N via 2.4 GHz |
| 04:46.39 | Amarande | hell, a few years ago, I couldn't get wifi downstairs AT ALL, and now it's better down there ROFL |
| 04:48.36 | kd3|hate`net | those of you paying attention to college football, tune to fox. ohio state's down by 10 with 2:08 left in the 4th |
| 04:52.10 | karl_w_w | why's that remarkable? |
| 04:52.25 | karl_w_w | are ohio the best team? |
| 04:52.34 | Semlar | psh, sounds like SOMEBODY doesn't watch sportsball |
| 04:52.45 | Amarande | I don't watch college handegg either |
| 04:53.10 | kd3|hate`net | osu's #2 in the country, michigan state's #10 |
| 04:53.21 | Semlar | NOT TODAY |
| 04:53.29 | kd3 | well, not any more osu isn't |
| 04:53.45 | karl_w_w | and the weaker team can't win in this crazy sport? |
| 04:53.49 | Semlar | if you beat #2 do you become #2 |
| 04:54.10 | kd3 | they can, but that's why I'm calling it out. osu was going to go to the national championship game, but that's not happening any more |
| 05:01.04 | Amarande | Semlar: college handegg follows a ridiculously ludicrous and basically insane hierarchy system |
| 05:01.14 | kd3 | for the last year ever |
| 05:01.19 | Amarande | performance is *part* of it, but it's mostly rigged :P |
| 05:01.29 | Amarande | kd3: they finally got rid of BCS? |
| 05:01.34 | Semlar | so it's like the arena |
| 05:01.36 | kd3 | next year it's a 4-team playoff |
| 05:02.44 | kd3 | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/College_Football_Playoff |
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| 05:40.34 | Shirik | I'm pretty sure I'm terrible with fuel efficency |
| 05:40.36 | Shirik | http://gyazo.com/804b193e844c1bc696d2bc11efe232c9 |
| 06:15.47 | airtonix | gayzo ಠ_ಠ |
| 06:16.27 | airtonix | typo |
| 06:27.26 | karl_w_w | what is that Shirik? |
| 06:27.51 | Shirik | that is an absolutely miserable transition orbit to the moon |
| 06:28.24 | karl_w_w | that's good |
| 06:28.31 | karl_w_w | but what game, kerbal? :P |
| 06:28.36 | Shirik | yes |
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| 07:11.43 | airtonix | lololol pear os 8 |
| 07:12.03 | airtonix | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfNG-eNsNGc#t=70 |
| 07:12.15 | ccox | interesting "xerox" triggers WoW's mature language warning |
| 07:12.32 | airtonix | ccox: because only mature know what it is |
| 07:16.48 | Neffi | airtonix: why am I watching this? |
| 07:17.06 | airtonix | pear os ? get it? sigh |
| 07:17.13 | Neffi | I do |
| 07:17.29 | Neffi | I thought there was something particularly funny about the distro. Then the video seemed all srs. |
| 07:18.19 | Neffi | They should name their releases after house cats |
| 07:18.28 | Neffi | Pear OS 9, Tinkerbell! |
| 07:33.07 | Neffi | Silverstone makes cookware..? |
| 07:33.08 | Neffi | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA24G15U7412 |
| 07:35.02 | Neffi | apparently it's a cookware company named SilverStone and Newegg through the Silverstone logo on it |
| 07:39.46 | Neffi | Recommended mouse mat for good tracking (laser)? |
| 07:47.58 | airtonix | anything? |
| 07:48.04 | airtonix | except a mirror |
| 07:48.59 | airtonix | ever since optical mice, i've never understood why people use a mouse mat |
| 07:50.57 | Neffi | This is a laser mouse. Also, it's noticeably worn the wood underneath. |
| 07:53.09 | Kultzi | everyone doesn't want to polish and varnish their table ;P |
| 07:53.40 | Kultzi | much easier to just buy new mouse mat |
| 07:53.44 | Neffi | Also I might get a new desk when I get the money and I don't want to limit myself to surfaces that the laser will track on |
| 07:53.52 | Neffi | I'd rather grab a pad that it tracks perfectly on and use that |
| 07:55.44 | airtonix | "This might be the table that the famous .... used a mouse on, but we can't be sure since there is no visible usage marks... on second thoughts this table lacks character have it for $2" |
| 07:56.43 | Neffi | The famous Neffi disdains his fans obsessing over his belongings |
| 07:57.11 | Kultzi | http://cyborggaming.com/prod/glide7.htm , i have been using that for a while now, works well and its easy to clean |
| 07:57.13 | Kultzi | and its really thin |
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| 08:20.52 | MiRai | Neffi: I just switched to a Razer Sphex and absolutely love it |
| 08:21.04 | MiRai | nothing like I've ever used before |
| 08:22.37 | Neffi | I won't buy anything Razer |
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| 08:23.35 | MiRai | Alrighty |
| 08:35.17 | karl_w_w | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:35.26 | Neffi | lol |
| 08:36.06 | karl_w_w | because http://www.twitch.tv/trumpsc tournament |
| 08:36.23 | karl_w_w | one of the guys has that as the first glyph in his name |
| 08:36.28 | karl_w_w | so he's now nicknamed cake |
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| 08:36.56 | Neffi | i think Rihanna made a song about him |
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| 09:05.25 | Shirik | ew |
| 09:05.30 | Shirik | getting up to the mountain tomorrow is going to be annoying |
| 09:05.55 | Fisker | Why Shirik? |
| 09:06.22 | Shirik | Road Surface: Packed Snow | Roadside Snow: 5 in. | Current Temp: -3 F | Current Chain Restrictions: Carry Chains or Traction Tires | |
| 09:06.57 | Fisker | Why not just fly? |
| 09:07.08 | Trela | Carry traction tires? Be easier to install them on the rims! |
| 09:07.24 | Shirik | Trela: Yeah I never understood that one |
| 09:07.28 | Shirik | but that's how it's always worded |
| 09:08.15 | Shirik | I think they're just trying to find an easy way to give you an out if you have traction tires on |
| 09:08.21 | Shirik | so you don't have to carry chains |
| 09:09.01 | Trela | Where do you live that you have to worry about mountains and chains? |
| 09:09.15 | Shirik | mt. hood, OR |
| 09:09.25 | Shirik | and I don't "worry" about mountains |
| 09:09.26 | Shirik | I go skiing :P |
| 09:09.58 | Trela | ^o^ |
| 09:10.05 | Fisker | Hi dad |
| 09:10.18 | Fisker | I love your jokes |
| 09:11.07 | Shirik | Fisker: |
| 09:11.12 | Shirik | How did you know I am your father? |
| 09:11.15 | Fisker | Shirik |
| 09:11.17 | Fisker | Not you |
| 09:11.18 | Fisker | Trela |
| 09:11.23 | Shirik | no Fisker |
| 09:11.25 | Shirik | I am your father |
| 09:11.28 | Trela | o.o |
| 09:11.30 | Fisker | yes Shirik |
| 09:12.47 | Fisker | wanna have kids Shirik? |
| 09:12.56 | Shirik | noty |
| 09:13.43 | Fisker | why not? |
| 09:14.00 | Shirik | http://tripcheck.com/popups/RWDetails.asp?RW=230&Display=Weather%20Warning |
| 09:14.03 | Shirik | lol @ "warm springs" |
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| 11:41.51 | jleclanche | firefox is breaking clicks |
| 11:41.53 | jleclanche | simple clicks |
| 11:41.56 | jleclanche | clicks on urls |
| 11:42.11 | jleclanche | i swear to god if these bugs were on windows id have to do "My internet is broken" tech support |
| 11:57.38 | airtonix | do you use synergy and chrome as well? |
| 11:57.56 | airtonix | synergy does somthing funky that makes chrome randomly crash |
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| 12:19.48 | Neffi | what's Synergy? |
| 12:35.14 | karl_w_w | it's when things work together well |
| 12:37.07 | Neffi | dammit |
| 12:50.38 | airtonix | Neffi: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9O2HNgtcnCM |
| 12:52.10 | airtonix | latest version of synergy the software is the same across all OS. and when you have bonjour print services installed on windows, you don't need to use ip addresses, just the machinename.local |
| 12:52.36 | Neffi | kuul |
| 12:55.50 | airtonix | it's pretty easy to setup synergy so it runs over ssh too |
| 12:56.32 | airtonix | i don't think you can use it's builtin encryption when you make it run a tthe gdm login screen |
| 12:56.41 | nevcairiel | the idea behind synergy is neat, but sadly everytime i used it, it had some kind of issues that made it too unstable for me |
| 12:57.29 | nevcairiel | havent tried for a year now, maybe they improved on that these days |
| 12:57.47 | airtonix | the trick is : play games on the machine connected to the keyboard and mouse, use video plugins on the guest machine that prevent youtube etc from un-fullscreening |
| 12:58.04 | airtonix | i still have problems pasting into chrome on the guest |
| 12:58.18 | airtonix | cuases it to lockup in a wierd way |
| 12:58.31 | airtonix | a while ago it used to paste the buffer as japanese |
| 12:59.02 | karl_w_w | starbound using about 10 pixels manages more beard styles than wow |
| 12:59.09 | airtonix | they're working on a feature where you can move windows between machines |
| 13:00.34 | Neffi | how the fuck |
| 13:00.59 | airtonix | gtk3 already has a feature where any gtk program can expose it's gui as a html interface |
| 13:01.13 | airtonix | i think qt has a similar feature |
| 13:02.40 | airtonix | gtk broadway i think its called |
| 13:02.49 | airtonix | http://www.webupd8.org/2013/06/how-to-install-gtk3-with-broadway-html5.html |
| 13:03.51 | Neffi | mmmmk |
| 13:04.03 | Neffi | I love features that I'm never, ever going to use |
| 13:04.16 | Neffi | Add more of them |
| 13:04.28 | airtonix | oh you'll love the gnome team |
| 13:04.36 | airtonix | they love to remove features for people like you |
| 13:04.58 | airtonix | send em an email... they always have the finger over the detonate button |
| 13:05.17 | Neffi | I don't particularly like Gnome, no |
| 13:05.35 | Neffi | They're also terrible UI designers, by the way |
| 13:05.41 | airtonix | how so? |
| 13:06.46 | Neffi | okay, let me be more fair |
| 13:06.52 | Neffi | "I hate their UI design" |
| 13:06.57 | airtonix | how so? |
| 13:07.26 | Neffi | To be honest I don't feel like being wordy and justifying it |
| 13:07.42 | Neffi | I'm too comfortable lying down to type so much |
| 13:07.43 | airtonix | kekekekek |
| 13:08.52 | airtonix | you sound old and grumpy |
| 13:09.05 | Neffi | getting there (on both counts) |
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| 13:20.04 | airtonix | how do you expect to overthrow tyranny if you can't accept change. |
| 13:20.07 | airtonix | sheesh |
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| 13:22.09 | Neffi | i dont have time to overthrow tyranny |
| 13:22.21 | Neffi | im too busy playing video games and drinking beer |
| 13:22.39 | airtonix | http://eol.jsc.nasa.gov/sseop/images/ISD/highres/STS088/STS088-724-66_3.JPG |
| 13:23.21 | Neffi | way is that? |
| 13:23.51 | airtonix | some people are calling it the "black knight" |
| 13:24.13 | Neffi | but what actually is it? |
| 13:25.14 | Neffi | http://www.recaption.com/uploads/284374f558f572ff33.jpg ? |
| 13:26.56 | airtonix | there's some talk about it not being natural or man made |
| 13:27.50 | airtonix | well "natural" as in from what we understand about elements currently known |
| 13:28.34 | airtonix | loooool: the universe expanded faster than light at the point of the big bang, 60 seconds after the big bang the outer reaches of the universe might have experienced 1 million yrs or more. relativity shows that two standpoints can be correct, the earth could be both 6000 yrs old and 13 billion yrs old, don't dismiss the bible to fast. |
| 13:29.34 | Neffi | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:30.09 | nevcairiel | relativity gives me a headache |
| 13:30.30 | airtonix | i gotta admit, it's interesting point of view |
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| 14:26.03 | pompy | https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=595240750530620&id=276710412383657&substory_index=0 |
| 15:00.28 | jleclanche | Fisker: Faerie Solitaire in the latest bundle |
| 15:00.29 | jleclanche | I'm sold |
| 15:00.43 | jleclanche | sold like the 1500 Faerie Solitaire keys I've seen given away |
| 15:01.26 | karl_w_w | jesus led christmas lights are insanely bright |
| 15:01.29 | Fisker | yeah I lold irl |
| 15:01.33 | jleclanche | https://www.humblebundle.com/weekly |
| 15:01.36 | jleclanche | man this is a really bad one |
| 15:01.44 | jleclanche | practically nothing on steam |
| 15:01.44 | Shirik | SKI TIME |
| 15:01.46 | jleclanche | even less on linux |
| 15:02.06 | jleclanche | this is gonna end up being the first EFF bundle I dont buy |
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| 15:14.04 | jleclanche | Let's play "find the contents of the email" |
| 15:14.05 | jleclanche | https://mediacru.sh/v-fvzxUGpAlp |
| 15:14.28 | jleclanche | damn it this enrages me. |
| 15:14.49 | jleclanche | all it needs is "New comment by x: <comment>" |
| 15:14.58 | jleclanche | and then the url |
| 15:15.21 | jleclanche | urhgghhh |
| 15:16.24 | jleclanche | UX is right up there with typeface design in the fields that can ruin your damn life |
| 15:18.09 | Amarande | jleclanche: heh, I'm guessing that instead of giving a good experience, it's making you feel like it's quite an experience :) |
| 15:18.18 | jleclanche | i uh |
| 15:18.19 | jleclanche | what? |
| 15:18.38 | Amarande | LOL as in that one Peanuts cartoon where Linus (I think it was Linus) goes "falling downstairs with twenty-four cans of root beer is quite an experience" |
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| 15:52.46 | Kraps | hey is the CM Lore the guy who does wow podcasts |
| 16:00.28 | jleclanche | haha |
| 16:00.31 | jleclanche | SN fans complaining |
| 16:00.31 | jleclanche | "Yeah freaking mid season break is lasting more than a month." |
| 16:00.41 | airtonix | sn? |
| 16:00.43 | jleclanche | this guy should watch Sherlock |
| 16:00.45 | jleclanche | supernatural |
| 16:00.53 | airtonix | people still watch that? |
| 16:00.58 | nevcairiel | a month is short fora break :p |
| 16:01.11 | jleclanche | nevcairiel: yeah very |
| 16:01.23 | airtonix | I'm still waiting for Fireflys mid season break to finish |
| 16:01.27 | jleclanche | white collar had a 2 year midseason break |
| 16:01.27 | jleclanche | :/ |
| 16:01.28 | airtonix | i believe |
| 16:01.38 | airtonix | really? |
| 16:01.41 | jleclanche | ya |
| 16:01.56 | airtonix | my partner loves white collar |
| 16:02.07 | Kraps | lol airtonix |
| 16:02.48 | jleclanche | also airtonix supernatural is actually a pretty good series |
| 16:02.49 | airtonix | Kraps: shit is outrageous |
| 16:02.54 | jleclanche | i think they hold up well after 9 seasons |
| 16:03.05 | jleclanche | MUCH better than.. urgh. dexter. |
| 16:03.16 | airtonix | maybe i might revist |
| 16:03.20 | Amarande | jleclanche: heh how did those people ever survive the authors strike |
| 16:03.23 | jleclanche | or the mentalist which is fucking itself up after 4 seasons |
| 16:03.36 | airtonix | i stopped watching supernatural when they realised he was the devils child |
| 16:03.46 | Amarande | actually, the authors strike may have had all kinds of shitty effects on stuff, anyways :| |
| 16:04.17 | Amarande | I'm still not entirely unsure that the Patriots' near-perfect season wasn't at least encouraged as a response to the strike, as a desperate attempt to drum up some extra hype to replace the lost ad revenue |
| 16:04.40 | jleclanche | airtonix: basically at some point you just need to accept taking Supernatural as a "comedy-horror" kind of show |
| 16:05.20 | jleclanche | "I wonder if that character is going to get revived" <- EVERY major character dying ever |
| 16:05.25 | airtonix | sleepy hollow has turned to crap after about three episodes |
| 16:05.49 | airtonix | almost human looks like it might turn to crap soon |
| 16:06.05 | airtonix | walk dead still has some legs |
| 16:06.13 | Kraps | sleepy hollow is good |
| 16:06.17 | airtonix | eh |
| 16:06.19 | airtonix | it's ok |
| 16:06.29 | jleclanche | walking dead is really good i thought as long as you accept the premise of the show again |
| 16:06.42 | jleclanche | people complain every time a zombie is not on camera |
| 16:06.46 | airtonix | having read the comics, i appreciate it for it's accuracy |
| 16:06.52 | Amarande | but hey, just three and a half more months or so till new game of thrones. :) |
| 16:07.07 | jleclanche | ive stayed the hell away from game of thrones |
| 16:07.11 | jleclanche | im VERY tempted |
| 16:07.12 | airtonix | why |
| 16:07.18 | jleclanche | im waiting for more stuff to be released |
| 16:07.19 | airtonix | it's awesome |
| 16:07.23 | jleclanche | namely all the books |
| 16:07.27 | airtonix | oh |
| 16:07.29 | jleclanche | and more seasons |
| 16:07.46 | airtonix | have you read all the hunger game books? |
| 16:07.54 | airtonix | not the same level as thrones |
| 16:08.07 | jleclanche | i didnt hear good things about hunger games |
| 16:08.12 | Amarande | ooh, that's right, I should get the hunger games books on google play |
| 16:08.17 | Amarande | or would it be better to get them on kindle |
| 16:08.30 | airtonix | is your reader e-ink? |
| 16:08.34 | airtonix | that's the answer |
| 16:08.39 | Amarande | nope |
| 16:08.43 | Amarande | I'm more thinking this way: |
| 16:08.45 | Amarande | the thing that sucks about google play is that there's not really an offline mode unless you've already downloaded the whole thing to your tablet |
| 16:08.55 | airtonix | wat? |
| 16:08.59 | Amarande | whereas with kindle it transmits the whole thing to your device in advance, as far as I understand it |
| 16:09.10 | airtonix | sigh |
| 16:09.11 | Amarande | airtonix: if you run past what you've already downloaded and there's no connection, you just get 'couldn't display the page' |
| 16:09.23 | Amarande | I've had that happen when reading books on my phone too, if I hit a dead zone while reading |
| 16:09.27 | airtonix | i just make sure i've downloaded it |
| 16:09.27 | jleclanche | ten billion reasons why im still using torrents for all that shit |
| 16:09.38 | airtonix | Amarande: also you can download the pdf as well |
| 16:09.59 | Amarande | and I'm not sure how or if you can force the mobile device to download the whole book ahead of time |
| 16:10.07 | Kraps | audiobooks for me |
| 16:10.08 | Amarande | pretty much the only way to be sure is to have already read the whole thing on that device |
| 16:10.14 | airtonix | nah |
| 16:10.24 | airtonix | you press a button "keep on device" |
| 16:10.30 | airtonix | done |
| 16:10.32 | jleclanche | Kraps: same here |
| 16:10.57 | jleclanche | Kraps: i dont really have time to read lately. anything audio/video lets me actually work at the same time |
| 16:11.06 | Kraps | yup |
| 16:11.29 | airtonix | jleclanche: why do you use torrents instead of nzb? |
| 16:11.52 | jleclanche | because I'm not in new zealand, and i dont need blood |
| 16:12.06 | airtonix | lol? |
| 16:12.13 | jleclanche | http://www.nzb.co.nz/ |
| 16:12.27 | airtonix | right |
| 16:12.31 | jleclanche | also because thats just what i use |
| 16:12.43 | airtonix | http://sickbeard.com/ |
| 16:13.03 | airtonix | or sabnzbd |
| 16:13.11 | airtonix | and/or |
| 16:13.52 | jleclanche | yeah i might use that |
| 16:13.55 | jleclanche | i saw it a while ago |
| 16:14.20 | nevcairiel | i dislike these auto-scrapper apps like sickbeard, i would prefer a good index page, but the ones i knew off all got shut down by the industry |
| 16:14.29 | jleclanche | eztv? |
| 16:14.34 | nevcairiel | thats torrent |
| 16:14.35 | nevcairiel | also, sucks |
| 16:14.42 | airtonix | nevcairiel: sickbeard doesn't scrape. |
| 16:15.00 | airtonix | it uses restful apis |
| 16:15.51 | nevcairiel | point remains that i can't just browse the colection and get what i want, i have to tell it which stuff to grab beforehand |
| 16:16.07 | airtonix | well that's what sabnzbd is for |
| 16:16.13 | nevcairiel | its just a downloader |
| 16:16.18 | nevcairiel | i need a place to browse for |
| 16:16.22 | airtonix | well no. |
| 16:16.42 | jleclanche | unrelated airtonix |
| 16:16.43 | jleclanche | http://github.com/adys/wikt |
| 16:16.44 | airtonix | ok yes a downloader, but not like jdownloader |
| 16:16.46 | jleclanche | you might like that |
| 16:17.04 | airtonix | jleclanche: yeah i saw that the other day. |
| 16:17.05 | nevcairiel | i use sabnzbd, but i use it much less often now |
| 16:17.08 | jleclanche | ah |
| 16:17.19 | nevcairiel | miss the old index sites |
| 16:17.50 | jleclanche | airtonix: Im enjoying Flask a lot |
| 16:17.59 | jleclanche | and i have to say |
| 16:18.10 | jleclanche | it definitely has a place next to django |
| 16:18.53 | jleclanche | as someone else was saying it hits a perfect sweet spot between django and tornado for anything that's not heavy |
| 16:18.59 | jleclanche | little user interaction etc |
| 16:19.52 | airtonix | is there a community of mixins for flask? |
| 16:20.03 | jleclanche | probably, Im not familiar with it yet |
| 16:20.20 | airtonix | it's not an mvc approach right? |
| 16:20.42 | airtonix | well let me rephrase that |
| 16:20.53 | jleclanche | its django's approach but less verbose |
| 16:21.05 | jleclanche | theres a few clever bits i dont like |
| 16:21.14 | jleclanche | namely the use of imported globals |
| 16:21.25 | jleclanche | from flask import request |
| 16:21.32 | jleclanche | you use that instead of the request param in views |
| 16:21.36 | airtonix | oh that's where each controller gets request |
| 16:21.40 | jleclanche | yep |
| 16:21.46 | jleclanche | i was hell of a confused for a while |
| 16:22.10 | karl_w_w | .:Kraps:. hey is the CM Lore the guy who does wow podcasts <- the weekly marmot and tankspot raid guide videos, yeah until he was hired as a CM |
| 16:22.26 | Kraps | cool |
| 16:23.06 | jleclanche | airtonix: im a bit concerned about thread safety |
| 16:23.40 | airtonix | have you used gatling to test it? |
| 16:24.04 | airtonix | http://gatling-tool.org/ |
| 16:24.06 | jleclanche | i dont know what that is |
| 16:24.17 | jleclanche | ah |
| 16:24.40 | jleclanche | yeah no, i said i was concerned, not working on |
| 16:25.05 | jleclanche | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:25.06 | jleclanche | oh hey |
| 16:26.18 | jleclanche | hm this is neat |
| 16:28.52 | airtonix | so it's jinja |
| 16:53.59 | airtonix | http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=y7ZBS4H0RFY#t=9995 |
| 16:54.03 | airtonix | the fek |
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| 16:58.43 | jleclanche | airtonix: I'm wondering how to mark minor edits as such in a git-based system |
| 16:58.50 | jleclanche | ideas? |
| 16:59.13 | airtonix | as commits? |
| 16:59.17 | jleclanche | yes |
| 16:59.28 | jleclanche | i cant really use the commit message as thats user input |
| 16:59.42 | airtonix | first thought is to use the git flow branching model |
| 17:00.47 | jleclanche | what? |
| 17:01.00 | jleclanche | im talking about marking commits as minor |
| 17:01.12 | airtonix | so when you save something as a commit you want differentiate certain commits from others? |
| 17:01.21 | jleclanche | yeah |
| 17:01.24 | jleclanche | commit flags actually |
| 17:04.27 | airtonix | i'm not sure |
| 17:05.19 | airtonix | perhaps make a issue ticket describing the dilemma and get some opinions |
| 17:05.36 | airtonix | i'm about to fall asleep so something to read in the morning |
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| 17:11.39 | jleclanche | https://www.kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-notes.html |
| 17:11.40 | jleclanche | AWESOME. |
| 17:12.55 | zenzelezz | is that some new feature? |
| 17:13.06 | jleclanche | wppwtentlu |
| 17:13.09 | jleclanche | apparently. |
| 17:13.27 | zenzelezz | for a moment there I thought you were making a really tricky abbreviation |
| 17:13.57 | airtonix | well then. drop some yaml or json in there |
| 17:14.06 | airtonix | :> |
| 17:14.09 | jleclanche | airtonix: dont need to? |
| 17:14.21 | jleclanche | one note per newline, might as well make it human readable |
| 17:14.38 | airtonix | oh right |
| 17:15.13 | jleclanche | oh my |
| 17:15.15 | jleclanche | this is sweeeet |
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| 17:43.24 | zenzelezz | ffs... inexplicable sudden horrible ping... going from 40-50 ms to 400-500 ms does not work well in games |
| 17:43.41 | zenzelezz | and no explanation from my computers as to why |
| 17:49.08 | TC-Work | Should ask your router |
| 17:59.34 | jleclanche | should ask your isp |
| 17:59.56 | jleclanche | dont you wish you could go on your isp's irc channel and ask one of the staff to tell you whats going on |
| 17:59.57 | jleclanche | cause i can. |
| 18:02.03 | zenzelezz | yes, I do wish I could, but they were either too stupid, or smart, to not make one |
| 18:02.54 | nevcairiel | if your ISP has a certain amount of customers, you wouldnt want such a place anymore :p |
| 18:03.19 | zenzelezz | that's why I added "or smart" |
| 18:04.18 | jleclanche | nevcairiel: require a gpg-irc extension |
| 18:04.20 | jleclanche | problem = solved |
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| 18:29.24 | zenzelezz | that exciting period after you spill stuff on your keyboard and when you feel sure that it didn't break it |
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| 18:37.17 | Amarande | zenzelezz, are you sure that the spill wasn't what made your ping spike? :) |
| 18:37.40 | zenzelezz | yup, the spill was just before I typed |
| 18:43.24 | foxlit | a = j == 1 and a1 or j == 2 and a2 or j == 3 and a3 |
| 18:43.34 | foxlit | poor man's local indexing? |
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| 19:38.32 | kd3 | ...seriously? a change.org petition for a wow password reset? http://wowpedia.org/Forum:Password_recovery_petition |
| 19:39.43 | Fisker | ..seriously? Why do you think he would contact Blizzard to sign a petition getting Blizzard to act on something? |
| 19:45.49 | Cairenn | ROFL |
| 19:51.55 | zenzelezz | http://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/ibm-ps2-ad-mash.jpg ... |
| 19:51.55 | bleeter | shop! https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bavf6X7CcAAmYZu.jpg |
| 19:53.23 | Arrowmaster | kd3: so i deleted ~/.xsession-errors and it didnt get recreated, so i recreated it, and now its still empty |
| 19:53.38 | Arrowmaster | wtf |
| 19:54.05 | kd3 | wha? I missed a step, what happened before that? |
| 19:54.23 | Arrowmaster | i was trying to debug something and there was too much stuff in it so i deleted it an rebooted |
| 19:56.00 | kd3 | selinux? not owned by you? |
| 19:56.10 | Arrowmaster | no selinux, owned by me |
| 19:56.15 | kd3 | huh |
| 19:56.24 | Arrowmaster | 644 |
| 19:56.33 | kd3 | make it 600 |
| 19:57.11 | Arrowmaster | yeah just thought of that |
| 19:57.55 | Arrowmaster | probably need a relog to make it start logging again? |
| 19:58.02 | kd3 | probably |
| 19:58.22 | Arrowmaster | i was surprised it wasnt recreated automatically |
| 19:59.23 | Arrowmaster | but i finally upgraded to cinnamon 2.0 which means i was able to upgrade the rest of my system that i had held back because of the libcogl9 to libcogl12 move |
| 19:59.35 | kd3 | it ...should be? |
| 19:59.35 | kd3 | odd |
| 20:05.21 | Fisker | tickles kd3 |
| 20:05.42 | jleclanche | kd3: someone probably told him to petition a gm |
| 20:05.44 | jleclanche | and he.. well |
| 20:05.48 | jleclanche | petitioned a gm. |
| 20:06.22 | kd3 | lol |
| 20:07.02 | nevcairiel | how can you petition a gm when you lost your password |
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| 20:09.09 | foxlit | http://www.go-hero.net/i/teams.jpg << thoughts? |
| 20:10.52 | bleeter | I will NEVER apologise for reposting this because it is that good http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/cool-cash-card-confusion-1009701 |
| 20:10.58 | kd3 | looks good, but I'd change the let's go! let's go! to look like a button rather than hyperlinked text |
| 20:12.13 | mikma | bleeter: yeah, brilliant! |
| 20:14.34 | nevcairiel | bleeter: usually i would said silly amuricans, but apparently the UKians are also not so smart |
| 20:16.06 | bleeter | in other gaming news https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ba_CUI7IYAEksos.jpg |
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| 20:16.36 | bleeter | oh |
| 20:16.46 | bleeter | oops... erm nsfw... ipso, shopped |
| 20:16.47 | bleeter | missed it |
| 20:16.52 | bleeter | spanks self |
| 20:16.53 | Semlar | how could they possibly know if they'd won with all these artifacts |
| 20:23.50 | foxlit | kd3: mm, yeah, ultimately a placeholder there. I don't think ordinary button graphics would fit, though. |
| 20:25.53 | foxlit | some kind of arrow-like background would be neat, but there doesn't seem to be anything I can steal from framexml for that purpose. |
| 20:44.15 | bleeter | creepy stock video is creepy http://i.imgur.com/c1kbgHd.gif |
| 20:49.41 | zenzelezz | "Create Your Own Bullet Time Camera Rig With Raspberry Pi" - well this sounds interesting - "The rig looks more like the LHC at CERN using nearly half a kilometre of network cables, 48 Raspberry Pis [...]" - ... ok, fuck it |
| 20:51.50 | mikma | don't forget 48 cameras |
| 20:52.33 | bleeter | can do that sorta thing with chdk/sdm now, no rpi necessary. just need a very long usb cable |
| 20:52.40 | bleeter | veryveryvery |
| 20:53.18 | bleeter | and a 2025 battery because every project should have one of them |
| 20:54.30 | zenzelezz | my point was more that the title made it (in my reading) like it was done with one Pi |
| 20:54.41 | zenzelezz | +sound |
| 20:55.41 | TC-Work | So get 48 pi's |
| 20:55.45 | Amarande | wow there is not one whit of green on the gridiron in Green Bay this week |
| 20:55.49 | TC-Work | and NOM THEM ALL |
| 21:06.01 | Arrowmaster | why are 48 needed? |
| 21:07.03 | Arrowmaster | thats at least $1200 in pi's, if its because the pis power is limited maybe just buying a more powerful system to control it would be cheaper |
| 21:07.08 | zenzelezz | don't know if it is needed, but that's what they did |
| 21:07.13 | zenzelezz | http://hardware.slashdot.org/story/13/12/07/011250/create-your-own-bullet-time-camera-rig-with-raspberry-pi |
| 21:07.54 | TC-Work | Arrowmaster: After looking, I doubt it |
| 21:08.01 | TC-Work | it uses low res camera |
| 21:08.01 | TC-Work | s |
| 21:08.18 | Arrowmaster | 48 Raspberry Pi Cameras |
| 21:08.23 | Arrowmaster | the pi has its own camera? |
| 21:08.42 | TC-Work | http://www.raspberrypi.org/camera |
| 21:08.43 | TC-Work | guess so |
| 21:09.03 | Arrowmaster | "48 5V PSU" "Enough extension cables plugged into a single socket to scare most caretakers" |
| 21:09.25 | Arrowmaster | at this point you just have somebody build you a PSU with 48 5v outputs |
| 21:10.02 | Arrowmaster | likely from a PC PSU and wire |
| 21:13.05 | nevcairiel | even the existing 5v psus come with anoth power that you could put a couple devices on each |
| 21:13.11 | Amarande | heh, not to mention, next thing you're running enough gear that the local PD comes by to make sure you're not running grow lights |
| 21:13.47 | nevcairiel | not all of them of course, but plenty |
| 21:14.18 | Arrowmaster | comments point out they are using a board with an lcd module on it that isnt even being used for anything, its only on there because the people that did this sell it |
| 21:14.52 | Arrowmaster | i love how they are getting ripped apart for how stupid this is |
| 21:15.24 | nevcairiel | i have a arduino and some components coming next week to build some stuff |
| 21:15.26 | nevcairiel | screw rpi :p |
| 21:16.32 | Arrowmaster | yeah an arduino and a bunch of point and shoot cameras would have probably been cheaper and better picture quality |
| 21:16.34 | Ressy | Theramore's blown up for anyone lvl 90 right? |
| 21:18.52 | Shadowed | who do I yell at again for the stupid packager being dead on wowace |
| 21:20.32 | Amarande | Ressy: last time I looked you had to do the theramore scenario, then it was gone |
| 21:20.39 | Shadowed | Torhal! |
| 21:20.40 | Amarande | as in, still normal until you do the scenario |
| 21:22.20 | Ressy | ah.. k :) |
| 21:23.53 | Ressy | packager just did another file.. |
| 21:25.28 | nevcairiel | dont even see any recent changes from Shadowed |
| 21:25.30 | Shadowed | nevcairiel http://www.wowace.com/addons/shadowed-unit-frames/ I pushed something an hour or two ago |
| 21:25.59 | Stanzilla | are you sure you pushed? |
| 21:26.28 | Shadowed | of course |
| 21:26.28 | nevcairiel | i didnt see the bot announce any suf changes over in #wowuidev |
| 21:26.31 | nevcairiel | er #wowace |
| 21:27.04 | nevcairiel | but maybe Stanzilla can just add suf to the packager queue again |
| 21:27.16 | Stanzilla | only Torhal can |
| 21:27.17 | Stanzilla | sadly |
| 21:27.21 | nevcairiel | too bad |
| 21:27.25 | nevcairiel | back in the day i had that access |
| 21:27.28 | Shadowed | usually http://www.wowace.com/addons/shadowed-unit-frames/repositories/mainline/packager/ |
| 21:27.34 | Shadowed | showing error displaying markup means it broke horribly |
| 21:27.35 | Shadowed | if I recall |
| 21:27.39 | nevcairiel | nah |
| 21:27.41 | Shadowed | but tried pushing a random one liner change to see if taht fixes it |
| 21:27.44 | Stanzilla | that just happens all the time |
| 21:27.44 | Shadowed | that* |
| 21:27.52 | nevcairiel | it just means the markup parser broke |
| 21:27.56 | nevcairiel | not that the packager broke :) |
| 21:28.09 | Stanzilla | Shadowed: yeah can you try commiting again? |
| 21:28.14 | nevcairiel | he just did |
| 21:28.15 | Shadowed | I just did 10 seconds ago |
| 21:28.17 | Stanzilla | oh ok |
| 21:28.26 | Stanzilla | because sometimes the packager just leaves out some projects |
| 21:28.38 | Fisker | night friendos and Stanzilla |
| 21:28.38 | Shadowed | annoying packager |
| 21:28.44 | Stanzilla | night Fisker |
| 21:42.21 | Shadowed | yea looks like the packager just missed it |
| 21:42.22 | Shadowed | :| |
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| 21:53.38 | Shadowed | heyyyy nevcairiel how well do you remember AceGUI/AceConfig API stuff |
| 21:53.41 | Shadowed | I'm trying to do something crazy |
| 21:54.52 | TC-Work | Define 'crazy' |
| 21:55.09 | Shadowed | uhhh |
| 21:55.29 | Shadowed | I can almost guarantee you nobody has this issue |
| 21:57.28 | TC-Work | You are avoiding the question |
| 21:57.32 | Shadowed | that's cause I'm typing it |
| 21:57.34 | Shadowed | and checking stuff |
| 21:58.13 | Shadowed | SUF probably has the most complex GUI that's using AceGUI/Config, and right now, it has to load the entire unit config table for 31 units |
| 21:58.23 | Shadowed | which apparently is validated and rendered when you open a config |
| 21:58.34 | Shadowed | and having a config window that takes 10 seconds to open is bad |
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| 21:58.57 | Shadowed | Looking at making it dynamically load units in, but as far as I can tell, there's no clean way to hook into it |
| 21:59.24 | Shadowed | looks like the only way you can really get an "on show" event is to have a name defined as a function |
| 21:59.28 | Shadowed | and then manually calling NotifyChange |
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| 22:01.48 | nevcairiel | it loads the table and validates all the things you put in there, but it doesnt draw any elements it doesnt need |
| 22:01.54 | Shadowed | yea |
| 22:02.00 | Shadowed | I'm pretty sure validating the entire tree is what takes so long :P |
| 22:02.06 | Shadowed | it's uhhhh |
| 22:02.16 | nevcairiel | well you can disable that and see if its fast |
| 22:02.25 | Shadowed | oh? how |
| 22:02.40 | nevcairiel | mess with the ace3 sources :p |
| 22:02.43 | nevcairiel | juist to makes sure thats really it |
| 22:02.44 | Shadowed | ah |
| 22:02.46 | Shadowed | right |
| 22:03.10 | nevcairiel | its in AceConfigRegistry, ValidateOptionsTable |
| 22:03.32 | nevcairiel | iirc, it should do that when its registered, not when opened, though |
| 22:04.09 | nevcairiel | unless you register it only when the user opens it |
| 22:05.05 | Shadowed | haha |
| 22:05.29 | Shadowed | yea I do it when the user opens it nevcairiel, SUF config is a lot of memory |
| 22:05.30 | Shadowed | but disabling validation makes it open instantly |
| 22:05.39 | nevcairiel | i see |
| 22:05.40 | nevcairiel | wonder if that can be optimized somehow |
| 22:05.40 | kd3 | screw you, florida: http://i.imgur.com/DPuvIGM.png |
| 22:05.54 | Shadowed | I don't think so, not in this case at least |
| 22:05.55 | Shadowed | SUF has a metric ton of options |
| 22:05.56 | Shadowed | let me get a count |
| 22:06.04 | nevcairiel | or if we can add a flag to skip validation, its really only a debug tool anyway |
| 22:06.53 | Shadowed | that'd be better |
| 22:07.29 | Shadowed | for reference |
| 22:07.34 | Shadowed | validate is called 311,508 times for SUF |
| 22:07.55 | nevcairiel | a lot of options to check :d |
| 22:08.16 | Shadowed | I was serious about the complexity! |
| 22:08.35 | Shadowed | I can hack the validation part at least for now |
| 22:11.05 | nevcairiel | i added a parameter now, although it only works if you use AceConfigRegistry directly, not through the AceConfig wrapper |
| 22:11.29 | Shadowed | oh welp |
| 22:11.30 | Shadowed | I added a ticket |
| 22:12.09 | Shadowed | hmm |
| 22:12.26 | Shadowed | oh yea that's fine |
| 22:14.40 | Shadowed | yup that's perfect, thanks nevcairiel |
| 22:15.11 | Shadowed | yay config UI opens in 5ms and not 10s |
| 22:15.24 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 22:15.29 | kd3 | progress! |
| 22:15.36 | nevcairiel | it wasnt that bad for me, but it still took quite a while |
| 22:15.45 | nevcairiel | never really thought about what really cased it |
| 22:16.00 | nevcairiel | caused* |
| 22:16.38 | znf | cool, now I'm not going to wonder if my game is crashing or not when I open suf's option once a month! |
| 22:20.06 | Shadowed | nevcairiel I was bored and figured I'd take a look into it |
| 22:23.08 | Shadowed | If tag: latest isn't specified, it pulls latest alpha right |
| 22:23.16 | Shadowed | or was tag: latest pull latest alpha |
| 22:23.17 | Shadowed | :| |
| 22:23.27 | nevcairiel | assuming the path points to trunk, it pulls that |
| 22:23.34 | nevcairiel | tag: latest redirects to the latest tag |
| 22:23.46 | nevcairiel | its all based on the repository, not packages on the website :) |
| 22:24.42 | Shadowed | excellent |
| 22:24.47 | nevcairiel | so looking at youir current pkgmeta, ace3 stuff should come from trunk, not any tags |
| 22:24.57 | Shadowed | I can't remember how half that stuff works, since I initially did all of this like 4 years ago |
| 22:24.58 | Shadowed | thanks |
| 22:38.41 | TC-Work | Boo, I am .5 hours short of having a 70 hour week. |
| 22:51.24 | Semlar | kd3: ha |
| 22:51.37 | Semlar | we are immune to your winter |
| 23:00.32 | Arrowmaster | TC-Work: i only worked 26.25 hours, it sucks |
| 23:00.57 | g0urra | wat https://www.change.org/petitions/blizzard-entertainment-add-an-easier-simpler-password-recovery-system-for-wow |
| 23:00.58 | TC-Work | Arrowmaster: That is because you have a weird job. |
| 23:00.58 | Arrowmaster | i do |
| 23:01.21 | Arrowmaster | any my expenses was less than $150 for the last two weeks |
| 23:01.49 | Arrowmaster | mileage reimbursement |
| 23:07.38 | Shadowed | :| |
| 23:09.19 | Shadowed | annd seems that the packager might have missed it again |
| 23:09.20 | Shadowed | augh |
| 23:09.39 | TC-Work | Might not be the packager.... |
| 23:10.39 | Shadowed | no it's definitely the stupid packager |
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| 23:25.59 | Amarande | eh, I think the password recovery system is fine as it is |
| 23:26.17 | Amarande | although ... I also have SMS Protect |
| 23:26.20 | Amarande | soo :S |
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