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| 01:22.41 | Shirik | just hit Platinum status with United |
| 01:22.42 | Shirik | whoo |
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| 02:02.04 | airtonix | soon you'll be able to live permanently in transition. flitting between hotels |
| 02:03.45 | Dagmar | That sounds very wrong. |
| 02:31.37 | Arrowmaster | Ackis: i dont so no |
| 02:39.14 | pompy | Ackis: in the steam update today "Add download regions for Calgary, Edmonton, Winnipeg, and Ottawa in Canada" whatever that may mean lol |
| 02:58.23 | Shirik | I got a meeting request notification just now |
| 02:58.26 | Shirik | "If anyone has a conflict let me know by COB Wednesday and I can reschedule." |
| 02:58.35 | Shirik | ... |
| 02:58.53 | kd3|hate`net | er, wasn't cob 2 hours ago for you? |
| 02:59.02 | Shirik | yes |
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| 03:04.36 | kd3 | cdr hadfield's in the middle of an ama: http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/1s4l7v/i_am_col_chris_hadfield_retired_astronaut/ |
| 03:07.11 | jleclanche | I am so sick of space indentation |
| 03:07.48 | jleclanche | what's annoying about it is if i bring it up, it sounds like I'm being a bigot |
| 03:08.06 | jleclanche | like I just said "I'm so sick of having to deal with blacks" |
| 03:08.14 | Sintacks | I can't figure out a custom untrigger for noodle carts... |
| 03:08.18 | jleclanche | https://plus.google.com/116965050091309960242/posts/bz88s4ZQxNp |
| 03:08.22 | Sintacks | the trigger to show is fucking easy. a boss emote |
| 03:08.25 | kd3 | because you are? it's not like we're wanting for disk space on dev machines or the repo |
| 03:08.29 | Sintacks | the trigger to hide is more complcated :| |
| 03:08.40 | jleclanche | kd3: see what I just linked |
| 03:09.12 | jleclanche | kd3: please read it and let me know what you actually think |
| 03:10.59 | kd3 | I do strongly agree with the complaint about patches changing whitespace/lines everywhere to comply with static code analysis tools' bitching |
| 03:11.56 | jleclanche | kd3: i want to know what you think about my reasoning |
| 03:12.28 | jleclanche | because so far whenever i bring it up, the very thoughtful and deeply elaborate answer is "but i prefer spaaaaaaaaces" |
| 03:12.52 | kd3 | your reasoning is valid, but eh, tbqh the ship has sailed on tabs if VS/resharper defaults to spaces... |
| 03:14.19 | jleclanche | well i know its a lost cause |
| 03:14.38 | Shirik | TIL when Wikipedia goes down, a spike in donations occurs |
| 03:14.43 | jleclanche | I just dislike dealing with people telling me "you should use spaces, cause I like spaces" |
| 03:15.20 | jleclanche | i use tabs because it's something I've spent a large chunk of time analyzing the pros and cons of |
| 03:15.34 | kd3 | I use whatever vs/resharper/eclipse/checkstyle gives me whenever I hit 'format code' |
| 03:16.04 | jleclanche | it would be akin to someone spending a great deal of research on choosing an nvidia graphics card over something else |
| 03:16.11 | jleclanche | and someone going "but you should use amd" |
| 03:16.12 | jleclanche | "why?" |
| 03:16.16 | jleclanche | "cause.. its better" |
| 03:16.29 | jleclanche | "why?" "well i like amd, its fast" |
| 03:16.30 | jleclanche | >_> |
| 03:18.05 | Shirik | you should not use amd |
| 03:19.32 | airtonix | i use spaces because it's pep8 |
| 03:19.47 | jleclanche | thats the same as "I use nvidia because my dad does" |
| 03:20.06 | airtonix | true |
| 03:20.35 | airtonix | why does it matter though? editor should handle it. if a program chokes because it can't regex then wtf |
| 03:21.18 | jleclanche | airtonix: it matters because of what i wrote in the g+ post, did you read it? |
| 03:21.24 | airtonix | not yet |
| 03:24.09 | airtonix | ok so there is no case where the \t makes things choke? |
| 03:24.21 | jleclanche | why would it? it's a character |
| 03:24.26 | jleclanche | well |
| 03:24.51 | jleclanche | TTYs don't handle \t, but once again they're replaced by spaces |
| 03:25.21 | jleclanche | to be more specific, they don't handle the benefits of \t |
| 03:25.38 | airtonix | yeah also two character is better than four/eight/sixteen/fourmillion charactes |
| 03:25.52 | airtonix | \t vs .... |
| 03:25.53 | jleclanche | what do you mean? |
| 03:25.56 | jleclanche | right |
| 03:26.09 | jleclanche | (\t is one character, the escape isnt) |
| 03:26.42 | airtonix | even better |
| 03:27.04 | jleclanche | thats something i dont bring up |
| 03:27.23 | jleclanche | otherwise i get called a bigot again because "hey guys, we have disk space, who cares" |
| 03:27.25 | jleclanche | pokes kd3 |
| 03:28.10 | airtonix | maybe on your local machines but remotely it's something to keep an eye on |
| 03:28.33 | jleclanche | i honestly dont think so |
| 03:28.44 | jleclanche | gzipped its all the same |
| 03:28.59 | jleclanche | although there are performance issues with using spaces |
| 03:29.13 | jleclanche | most editors handle tabs way better than they handle spaces, rendering-wise |
| 03:29.39 | jleclanche | (ever tried scrolling a very large space-indented document, and then mass-replacing with tabs to see the difference?) |
| 03:30.13 | airtonix | sublimetext is pretty fast so i haven't dealt with a problem like that for a while now |
| 03:30.27 | airtonix | gedit always had problems like that |
| 03:31.13 | jleclanche | regardless they're not valid reasons |
| 03:31.28 | jleclanche | they're reasons, but only so because of bad code |
| 03:34.42 | Neffi | If anyone plays or is gonna pick up Gw2, drop me a line. I'm going to be grabbing a copy within a couple weeks, perhaps as soon as next week . |
| 03:35.01 | Neffi | I don't know if it's region specific, but I'm in the US |
| 03:35.38 | airtonix | you can guest onto any three servers apart from your home server |
| 03:35.54 | Neffi | Oh yes, I read about that |
| 03:36.01 | airtonix | guildwars2 also has auto scaling if you enter a dungeon with your lower level friends |
| 03:36.09 | airtonix | you end up being a twink of their level |
| 03:36.14 | jleclanche | "I call my Aurora "Melty", because as soon as I figure out which ship I really want she is getting melted down for the credit. |
| 03:36.14 | jleclanche | " |
| 03:36.16 | Neffi | I wouldn't mind finding somebody to play with, since all my freinds are caught up on their console games right now |
| 03:37.00 | Neffi | If you're a PvPer, all the more reason. I'm probably gonna spend a good amount of my playtime in PvP. |
| 03:37.22 | airtonix | yeah i think i'm just sick of mmos that don't allow a great amount of creativity |
| 03:37.36 | airtonix | i keep going back to minecraft |
| 03:38.23 | Neffi | I like Minecraft, but I miss killing shit |
| 03:38.32 | airtonix | you should play hexxit |
| 03:38.51 | airtonix | discover mountain dungeon/fortress kill shit get loot |
| 03:38.53 | Neffi | Meh. I really want to get into another MMO. |
| 03:38.57 | jleclanche | airtonix: why dont you swing around my server |
| 03:40.15 | airtonix | jleclanche: sure whitelist 'airtonix', i'll jump on and start building stuff. |
| 03:40.19 | airtonix | at some point |
| 03:40.28 | airtonix | jleclanche: that would make three now, the hexxit server i'm playing with my partner, the cograil. now yours. |
| 03:40.49 | Neffi | I haven't seen you around cograil |
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| 03:42.36 | airtonix | Neffi: i'm responsible for this: http://overviewer.iriel.org/cograil4/#/-114/64/-264/-1/0/0 |
| 03:43.44 | Neffi | when did that appear?! |
| 03:43.56 | airtonix | long before you joined |
| 03:44.16 | Neffi | I dont think I've ever ventured in that direction |
| 03:45.20 | airtonix | the spawn on gorail4 is pretty amazin |
| 03:45.27 | airtonix | cograil4* |
| 03:46.03 | airtonix | lolwut? http://overviewer.iriel.org/cograil4/#/-688/64/542/-1/0/0 |
| 03:46.46 | Neffi | Yeah, it is something else |
| 03:47.56 | Neffi | http://imgur.com/gallery/7FNBr |
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| 04:10.03 | Cairenn | offs, now he's being accused of using heroine as well as the crack |
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| 04:25.58 | airtonix | Mr_Rabies: http://www.androidauthority.com/any-dos-cal-is-a-smarter-more-beautiful-calendar-app-for-android-322440/ |
| 04:26.49 | airtonix | at the moment i'm just using SolCalendar which uses google calendar as the data store |
| 04:27.21 | airtonix | but that's an example of 3rd party applications that do well by providing somewhere else to store data |
| 04:29.57 | airtonix | might switch to using cal... i like it |
| 04:31.43 | karl_w_w | shit outta luck calendar? |
| 04:32.27 | airtonix | yeah it's like Fung Shui for Time Management. |
| 04:32.43 | airtonix | improve your chances of not stepping in dog shit |
| 04:33.13 | airtonix | it's a great place to start because if you're shit out of luck it only gets better from there. |
| 04:44.14 | alestane | Cairenn: The mayor of Toronto, or some other public figure? |
| 04:44.22 | Cairenn | Ford |
| 04:44.26 | Cairenn | dumbass |
| 04:44.34 | Cairenn | (the mayor) |
| 04:44.57 | alestane | Mike or Mark or something like that. |
| 04:45.06 | Cairenn | No, Rob |
| 04:45.14 | alestane | My bad. |
| 04:45.15 | karl_w_w | Henry? |
| 04:45.32 | alestane | The Economist touched on his foibles a few times. |
| 04:46.07 | alestane | That he admitted to doing crack but claimed it was "probably during one of his drunken stupors," which makes it all better... or something. |
| 04:46.53 | Cairenn | No worries. Not like many people outside Canada (or even just Ontario, or hell, even just Toronto) should be expected to know his name. It's sad that so many do, world wide. It's not exactly the type of press we want ... |
| 04:47.28 | airtonix | alestane: i thought the phrase went: "i i website as on the internet, i know the mayor of boston" |
| 04:52.42 | Neffi | Don't feel too bad. Most of our congressmen are coke addicts. |
| 04:54.44 | Neffi | http://i.imgur.com/gUgkpTx.jpg |
| 04:56.55 | airtonix | i really hate sports |
| 04:57.14 | airtonix | up and go get em overly happy things |
| 04:57.58 | airtonix | did someone ever end up making that site that moss uses in the it crowd to interact with sports people? |
| 04:58.38 | airtonix | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWJIQm9qH-w |
| 04:59.18 | airtonix | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpjYGjSeLoE |
| 04:59.35 | Neffi | It's hard to respect a show that needs a laughbox to tell you when it's funny |
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| 05:00.06 | airtonix | i bet you like sports |
| 05:00.17 | airtonix | because you're sound dangerously sportslike |
| 05:00.41 | airtonix | sorry where are my manners.... |
| 05:00.55 | airtonix | "Did you see that ludicrous display last night?" |
| 05:01.08 | Neffi | ~lart airtonix |
| 05:01.08 | purl | stabs airtonix |
| 05:01.16 | Neffi | woah, purl |
| 05:01.22 | Neffi | that's a bit rough |
| 05:02.55 | Neffi | I never saw the appeal in sports |
| 05:03.21 | airtonix | i guess it's better than the alternative |
| 05:03.32 | airtonix | all out anarchy and sex in the streets |
| 05:04.01 | airtonix | sports keeps that on the field and in the locker rooms |
| 05:04.34 | Neffi | Is there a Youtube extension for Chrome that doesn't suck ass? |
| 05:04.55 | Neffi | I just want to prevent autoplay and auto-HD. But every extension out there is riddled with bugs or only works 10% of the time |
| 05:04.58 | Mr_Rabies | i used to use youtube center, and i'm thinking of swapping back since youtube is so broken on chrome for me |
| 05:05.40 | Neffi | I was using Youtube Options, which was nice, except the mechanism for stopping autoplay apparently is triggered like every .1 sec for several sec |
| 05:05.54 | Neffi | So if you try to play the video after the page loads, you find it just keeps pausing it on you |
| 05:07.20 | airtonix | Neffi: i use viewtube |
| 05:07.32 | airtonix | userscript |
| 05:08.25 | Neffi | of course userscripts is down |
| 05:08.39 | Neffi | It works on Chrome though? |
| 05:10.04 | Neffi | --you need a Google+ account to instal Chrome extensions now? |
| 05:10.31 | Neffi | I think I'm gonna ditch Google shit for a while |
| 05:10.33 | Dagmar | That's mainly so it'll sync across computers. |
| 05:10.49 | Neffi | That's cool and all, but why is there no button to opt out? |
| 05:10.53 | Dagmar | It's not like you have to make a profile, but the traveling bookmarks and so on is _really fucking handy_ |
| 05:11.17 | airtonix | Neffi: just drag the userscript.js you download into the extensions window |
| 05:11.22 | airtonix | bam done |
| 05:11.35 | Neffi | I was trying to install Tampermonkey because it looks really nice for userscripts |
| 05:11.42 | airtonix | or you can use it on firefox if you want |
| 05:11.46 | airtonix | eh |
| 05:11.47 | Neffi | I'm just getting uncomfortable with the direction Google is going |
| 05:12.00 | airtonix | then you better ditch apple and microsoft too |
| 05:12.02 | Dagmar | You can make throwaway accounts. |
| 05:12.12 | airtonix | and mozilla and linux and nintendo |
| 05:12.15 | Neffi | Not that it's bad. The integration is nice. But I don't like it being forced everywhere |
| 05:12.16 | airtonix | and sega |
| 05:12.19 | airtonix | and everyone |
| 05:12.40 | Dagmar | They're not trying to "force" identity so much as everything they do is cloud-centric now. |
| 05:12.41 | Neffi | I like the direction Linux is going, to be honest |
| 05:12.51 | Neffi | I don't like that concept |
| 05:12.53 | airtonix | but linux is throwing out features |
| 05:13.01 | Neffi | Whether I want everything to be cloud centric or not is my choice |
| 05:13.03 | kd3 | "throwing out"? |
| 05:13.04 | Dagmar | It's been incredibly handy for me so far. |
| 05:13.23 | Dagmar | Like, if I was browsing something at home on my desktop, I can get at _those tabs_ on my phone or my work computer. |
| 05:13.28 | airtonix | kd3: in so much as far as that's even a relevant statement concerning any other company. |
| 05:14.03 | airtonix | Dagmar: yeah seriously, show me a browser that does that other than chrome? |
| 05:14.09 | Dagmar | kd3: Yes, like GNOME throwing out usability. ;) |
| 05:14.20 | Neffi | Looking back, I wish Opera hadn't given up |
| 05:14.35 | airtonix | oh yeah, better stop using opera too |
| 05:14.40 | Dagmar | airtonix: Firefox can sync bookmarks, but the remote tab access has come in handy for me several times now |
| 05:14.45 | airtonix | because they just plain don't exist anymore |
| 05:14.47 | Dagmar | Firefox doesn't quite manage that |
| 05:14.51 | Neffi | Opera was always a nice browser. Shit lie this was never forced on you. |
| 05:14.59 | Neffi | I've never been a big fan of Firefox |
| 05:15.20 | airtonix | awesome thing about new firefox is that it's the IDE for firefox os |
| 05:15.50 | airtonix | so they'll also have the remote debugging thing chrome has with chrome on android |
| 05:16.37 | airtonix | 1. plugin in android phone with chrome via usb, 2. desktop: chrome://inspect 3. choose the device, inspect page. |
| 05:17.28 | airtonix | chrome developer tools are still better than firefox at the moment. but that might change. |
| 05:21.46 | jleclanche | Well |
| 05:21.52 | jleclanche | I cant sign in to google hangouts anymore on android |
| 05:22.08 | jleclanche | i just turned on 2-factor auth, and it asks me for a special browser sign in |
| 05:22.21 | jleclanche | the browser sign in has paste disabled for the password field |
| 05:22.40 | jleclanche | i have an untypable 200+ character password for my google account |
| 05:22.42 | jleclanche | this is retarded |
| 05:22.58 | airtonix | using the hangout app on android? |
| 05:23.01 | jleclanche | ya |
| 05:23.11 | airtonix | i have two factor too. |
| 05:23.23 | kd3 | and it's not using your app-specific password? |
| 05:23.25 | airtonix | shouldn't it just defer to the system account manager |
| 05:23.34 | kd3 | ^ |
| 05:23.39 | jleclanche | it should, it doesnt |
| 05:23.44 | jleclanche | google play & co work |
| 05:23.46 | airtonix | restart phone maybe |
| 05:23.57 | airtonix | or kill the app and relaunch |
| 05:24.09 | jleclanche | yeah restarting it |
| 05:24.25 | kd3 | works fine here. (I'm still in the #wowuidev blizzcon hangout, heh) |
| 05:24.26 | airtonix | like it pops up chrome on the sign in page? |
| 05:25.58 | jleclanche | yeah nothing |
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| 05:27.14 | jleclanche | nope cant sign in |
| 05:30.55 | Neffi | Can somebody give me a current (5.2~) rc.lua that's relatively simple so I can pick it apart to build my own? |
| 05:31.02 | Neffi | (awesome WM) |
| 05:33.18 | jleclanche | amro has one |
| 05:33.20 | jleclanche | but hes asleep |
| 05:33.37 | Fisker | tickles kd3 |
| 05:34.09 | Neffi | Their doc pages are a PITA and convey nothing useful, and most configs are pretty complicated |
| 05:53.15 | airtonix | i've never really explored awesomeWM, what are it's features? |
| 05:53.37 | Iriel | apparently one of the features is an impenetrable configuration and another is poor documentation? |
| 05:54.55 | airtonix | so far it's on par with gnome-shell |
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| 05:58.01 | Neffi | That appears to be the case, what Iriel said |
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| 05:58.41 | Neffi | I'm looking at working with it because it handles all the details I don't give two shits about, but still appears to give me the power to essentially define what the WM should be and how it should behave |
| 06:03.43 | Primer | hrmm, installed weakauras2, and now none of my auras work |
| 06:05.09 | Primer | unless I didn't actually install it... |
| 06:05.41 | Primer | seems that was the case |
| 06:13.04 | airtonix | moving villagers : minecarts or zombies? |
| 06:13.58 | Iriel | Minecarts is the usual way |
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| 06:14.15 | Iriel | and if it's al ong journey, "breeding stations" en route, as insurance |
| 06:14.20 | airtonix | and do villagers use portals with 1.5.2 ? |
| 06:14.41 | Iriel | I dont know, Yssaril almost certainly does know |
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| 06:16.18 | jleclanche | Iriel: how do you breed villagers? |
| 06:16.31 | Iriel | get 2 into an area and build "houses" |
| 06:16.42 | Iriel | sufficient numbers of houses that they increase population |
| 06:16.57 | jleclanche | what constitutes a house? |
| 06:17.24 | Iriel | http://minecraft.gamepedia.com/Villager |
| 06:17.28 | Iriel | See "Mating and population" |
| 06:18.02 | Iriel | sleeps |
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| 06:37.05 | Neffi | Would you guys recommend something other than Learn Python the Hard Way? |
| 06:43.13 | karl_w_w | not learning python? |
| 06:45.19 | Neffi | >_> |
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| 07:11.27 | airtonix | Neffi: i would probably prefix that book with instaling virtualenv first |
| 07:11.35 | airtonix | virtualenvwrapper i mean |
| 07:12.20 | airtonix | last thing you need to be dealing with while learning python is some wierd ass conflict with the system installation of python and any libs your OS or desktop environment relies on |
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| 07:13.16 | airtonix | you'll also avoid the situation where you do something like: sudo pip intall json and as a side affect replace simplejson which some ubuntu apps relie on |
| 07:13.39 | airtonix | that's probaly not the accurate example, but it gets the idea across |
| 07:15.46 | airtonix | Neffi: the only mention of virtualenv in that book is : http://learnpythonthehardway.org/book/ex46.html and even then it's only to say "you should install it" no mention of why it's "best practice" to use virtualenv. |
| 07:16.29 | airtonix | terrible example to set in any language imo: "lolololol just install packages. virtual evnironment wat?" |
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| 08:12.25 | Shirik | http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/12/launch-code-for-us-nukes-was-00000000-for-20-years/ |
| 08:12.52 | karl_w_w | http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20110507133328AALQkJG some people should just be put out of their misery |
| 08:16.17 | Shirik | like flies? |
| 08:19.20 | Fisker | older than dirt Shirik |
| 08:20.08 | karl_w_w | also not interesting, it's not a "lol they are dumb for using such a weak code" story |
| 08:20.15 | karl_w_w | they deliberately used a weak code |
| 08:20.16 | Shirik | no u Fisker |
| 08:22.09 | Fisker | karl_w_w |
| 08:22.31 | Fisker | Deliberately using a weak code is a "lol they are dumb for using such a weak code"-story |
| 08:23.53 | Shirik | also |
| 08:24.04 | Shirik | if you send me an encrypted email marked urgent while I am at home at midnight |
| 08:24.14 | Shirik | I should have the right to chop off your head |
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| 08:28.14 | karl_w_w | no it isn't Fisker |
| 08:28.39 | karl_w_w | it's a "lol they are dumb for not wanting security" story |
| 08:31.04 | Neffi | You're mad to think they had no security |
| 08:31.46 | Shirik | tbh |
| 08:31.52 | Shirik | if you had to guess what the nuke code was |
| 08:31.58 | Shirik | would you guess it was 00000000 |
| 08:32.03 | Neffi | no |
| 08:32.28 | Neffi | It's not like everyone had access to the launch panel. |
| 08:39.12 | karl_w_w | yeah because the point of the code was to make sure the general public couldn't launch it |
| 08:39.14 | karl_w_w | sure |
| 08:40.00 | Fisker | No |
| 08:40.10 | Fisker | The point of the code was to ensure the proper chain of command |
| 08:40.43 | zenzio | I'm not sure I see how that would work |
| 08:48.47 | Shirik | guys |
| 08:48.50 | Shirik | you're all missing the point |
| 08:49.11 | Shirik | the purpose of the code was so that hollywood would have something to hack that was "complicated" so that it could take all the way until the nuke gets to 1 |
| 08:49.19 | Shirik | and then at the last second save the day |
| 08:51.12 | Neffi | makes sense |
| 08:51.25 | Neffi | you should write movies, Shirik. that was some real top-notch stuff. |
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| 09:14.08 | airtonix | man |
| 09:14.25 | airtonix | after seeing the movie shirik just made... |
| 09:14.40 | airtonix | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:35.00 | Neffi | http://i.imgur.com/pHBw1.jpg this is what heaven is like |
| 09:37.13 | karl_w_w | lol |
| 09:37.26 | karl_w_w | implying people use iphones in heaven |
| 09:40.35 | airtonix | i actually have a 1 tb a month plan |
| 09:41.24 | karl_w_w | I pay $11 for 1.5gb |
| 09:41.26 | airtonix | oh that's 10tb |
| 09:42.00 | Neffi | airtonix: you have a 1 terabyte plan? how much does that cost? |
| 09:42.08 | airtonix | $110 for 1.2tb at 24mbps |
| 09:42.12 | karl_w_w | in other news, why did my WoW sub cancel itself? |
| 09:42.17 | Neffi | where the fuck do you live? |
| 09:42.25 | karl_w_w | er, it still says active |
| 09:42.45 | airtonix | http://www.internode.on.net/residential/adsl_broadband/easy_broadband/ |
| 09:42.55 | airtonix | Neffi: south australia |
| 09:43.07 | karl_w_w | you have adsl on your phone? |
| 09:43.12 | Neffi | Oh, you mean land internet? |
| 09:43.36 | airtonix | dude, on my phone i get more than 24mbps. |
| 09:43.40 | karl_w_w | isn't it a hassle dragging a phone line behind you everywhere, airtonix? |
| 09:44.02 | airtonix | karl_w_w: who is that 11$ with? |
| 09:44.03 | Neffi | Really? I get 24 mbps on my home computer =( |
| 09:44.49 | karl_w_w | vaya |
| 09:45.05 | airtonix | http://www.internode.on.net/residential/fibre_to_the_home/nbn_plans/ |
| 09:45.12 | airtonix | lol fibre to the home |
| 09:45.15 | airtonix | cute |
| 09:45.26 | airtonix | thanks tony |
| 09:46.57 | nevcairiel | I would never be happy with a quota on my home internet, unless its way high or something |
| 09:47.06 | nevcairiel | i guess 1tb would be fine, but still :p |
| 09:47.43 | karl_w_w | so you would happily pay for more than you need, nevcairiel? |
| 09:48.07 | nevcairiel | i would be happy to pay for a flatrate, yes |
| 09:48.09 | karl_w_w | well, you already do |
| 09:48.42 | airtonix | this nbn rollout is retarded. |
| 09:48.44 | karl_w_w | I don't understand that |
| 09:48.56 | karl_w_w | why pay for data you aren't using |
| 09:49.22 | nevcairiel | because my usage isnt the same every day, week, month |
| 09:49.44 | airtonix | pay as you go is way more expensive too |
| 09:49.48 | nevcairiel | and if i ever have to think about if i still have data left this month, something s wrong |
| 09:49.50 | airtonix | like nearly 10x |
| 09:50.01 | karl_w_w | you must be pretty rich |
| 09:50.04 | nevcairiel | plus, its not like its expensive |
| 09:50.17 | karl_w_w | and there's the real difference |
| 09:50.17 | nevcairiel | i get 50/10 unlimited for 50€ |
| 09:51.29 | airtonix | karl_w_w: ever heard the phrase "Toorak Tractor" ? |
| 09:51.46 | karl_w_w | you still must be pretty rich if you're happy to throw money at a problem so that you never have to think about it |
| 09:51.52 | karl_w_w | no airtonix |
| 09:52.05 | airtonix | karl_w_w: do you know melbourne? |
| 09:52.15 | karl_w_w | I know of melbourne |
| 09:52.19 | nevcairiel | admittedly you cant really get volume contracts there |
| 09:52.23 | nevcairiel | s/there/here/ |
| 09:52.35 | nevcairiel | if you are cheap, you can go with slower connections |
| 09:52.39 | nevcairiel | but its usually all unlimited data |
| 09:52.44 | airtonix | ok so toorak is the ultra rich suburb inner city melbourne... |
| 09:52.52 | nevcairiel | unlike phones |
| 09:53.08 | airtonix | a toorak tractor is a glossy 4wd for a mother to take the kids to school. |
| 09:53.31 | airtonix | so like. high st in toorak. |
| 09:53.42 | airtonix | there's one block where the nbn is rolled out |
| 09:53.46 | airtonix | lulz |
| 09:54.03 | airtonix | i bet you it's tonys house |
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| 10:05.04 | karl_w_w | http://imgur.com/gallery/KdkDVZe |
| 10:14.34 | zenzio | karl_w_w: lol |
| 10:16.21 | airtonix | where is fisker when you need him to say something is old |
| 10:16.37 | Fisker | no airtonix |
| 10:18.12 | karl_w_w | old airtonix |
| 10:18.17 | airtonix | but it's well old bruva |
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| 10:28.26 | zenzio | when your enemy decides to just have fun in World of Tanks: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRexHw7TGPQ |
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| 10:45.25 | karl_w_w | holy shit |
| 10:45.52 | karl_w_w | noob family member calls me cos they dont know how to dial a phone number that's written with letters in it |
| 10:47.08 | zenzio | I didn't either for a while. Seems counterintuitive, especially on old phones |
| 10:47.16 | zenzio | "S... so do I press this key three times?" |
| 10:48.36 | karl_w_w | so you never saw a number written with both? |
| 10:49.09 | airtonix | both S's ? |
| 10:52.02 | zenzio | karl_w_w: I only ever heard of the letter-ones through American TV shows |
| 10:52.14 | zenzio | so no, I didn't see them in both versions until much later |
| 10:55.22 | karl_w_w | interesting |
| 10:55.35 | zenzio | it's simply not ever been a thing in Norway |
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| 10:56.51 | nevcairiel | I dont think its used in germany much either |
| 10:57.32 | Neffi | Something makes me think the Germans would invent a better system |
| 10:57.49 | nevcairiel | we just use the numbers |
| 10:58.03 | Neffi | see? nothing's ever good enough for Germans. |
| 10:58.05 | Neffi | =P |
| 10:58.22 | nevcairiel | Did you consider that we just are better? |
| 10:58.22 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 10:58.37 | Neffi | Your cars are better. Your beer is awesome. |
| 10:58.42 | Neffi | These things are true |
| 10:58.45 | airtonix | zieg heil |
| 10:59.01 | Neffi | But I'd rather have a Jewish comedian, an Italian cook, and an American zombie hunter |
| 10:59.02 | airtonix | or sumfing |
| 10:59.31 | airtonix | i think you are bein racist Neffi |
| 11:00.24 | Neffi | Of course not. I was only joking |
| 11:00.29 | airtonix | time to report you to the anti defimation league |
| 11:00.29 | Neffi | Every being born is exactly equal |
| 11:00.55 | airtonix | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:01.11 | Neffi | Cultural distinction is a lie. No group of people have ever done anything better than another. I praise our PC overlords. |
| 11:01.35 | zenzio | now you're being silly Neffi |
| 11:01.43 | airtonix | oh you recognise the authority of the pc master race? |
| 11:01.44 | zenzio | the PC culture has always done better than the Mac culture |
| 11:02.37 | airtonix | you know what i like about that brandname trip up people do with mac and pc zenzio? |
| 11:03.03 | zenzio | not enough to capitalize Mac apparently, but go on |
| 11:03.45 | airtonix | that one is personal and therefore the other is not, meaning every macbook barista out there is lying to themselves about how they are a unique snowflake |
| 11:04.11 | zenzio | hehe |
| 11:04.14 | airtonix | and that one is a personal *computer* |
| 11:04.21 | airtonix | and the other is something you wear when it rains |
| 11:04.30 | zenzio | =D |
| 11:04.33 | Neffi | I think you got it backwards, airtonix |
| 11:04.40 | airtonix | so how can you possibly get anything done with an overcoat |
| 11:04.44 | Neffi | Mac users don't disdain the "personal" part of computer |
| 11:04.50 | airtonix | a macintosh |
| 11:04.54 | Neffi | They'd rather have something that doesn't pass as a "computer" |
| 11:04.57 | Neffi | =P |
| 11:05.31 | airtonix | which means they don't do anything more useful than console gamers |
| 11:05.44 | airtonix | i mean the only thing you do on a console is place drinks |
| 11:05.53 | zenzio | I wonder if there'll ever be a time when non-technical people try to include jokes about technical things in movies. Like computers apparently still being all about schematics |
| 11:06.08 | airtonix | never happen |
| 11:07.27 | airtonix | ncis has never done it for example |
| 11:08.12 | Neffi | BBT tries to do it, but doesnt come off as funny and often botches the reference |
| 11:08.38 | zenzio | sadly true |
| 11:08.53 | Neffi | I still can't believe that show gets critical praise |
| 11:08.59 | airtonix | what is bbt? |
| 11:09.05 | zenzio | Big Bang Theory |
| 11:09.06 | Neffi | Big Bang Theory |
| 11:09.24 | zenzio | it was pretty good in the first couple of seasons, then it started getting less so |
| 11:09.28 | airtonix | isn't that a sitcom about nerds trying to have sex? |
| 11:09.44 | Neffi | The entire premise is thin cliches overexaggerated in front of a laugh box |
| 11:09.58 | zenzio | so, like 99% of all comedy series |
| 11:10.08 | Neffi | 99% of all TV* |
| 11:10.12 | Neffi | wait, |
| 11:10.14 | zenzio | sorry, typo |
| 11:10.20 | Neffi | my god |
| 11:10.23 | airtonix | laughboxes are the ideal pleasntry counterpart to shocktroopers |
| 11:10.28 | Neffi | brb gonna make millions of dollars |
| 11:10.33 | Humbedooh | kk |
| 11:10.34 | Neffi | adding laugh box to non-comedy shows |
| 11:10.52 | zenzio | "He's dead, Jim!" <roaring laughter> |
| 11:11.00 | airtonix | ohhhhh |
| 11:11.03 | airtonix | so funney |
| 11:11.14 | airtonix | quick, must tweet about it |
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| 11:11.41 | Neffi | patents the idea. |
| 11:11.54 | Neffi | sues airtonix for conspiracy to commit patent infringement. |
| 11:11.58 | airtonix | "it was large as it floated around the bowl, although i think that as the vindaloo" |
| 11:12.25 | Sintacks | anyone know how to do simcraft and make it not hit execute range.. |
| 11:12.31 | Sintacks | o. ic ould just remove execte |
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| 11:24.02 | Neffi | wtf are the Geico guys smoking? http://youtu.be/dx1GKqD_pEg |
| 11:29.29 | airtonix | Neffi: wow much hipster. such rage. |
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| 11:42.52 | Neffi | I'm gonna set up a webserver in a cirtual machine, then start teaching myself about networking. Distro recommendation? |
| 11:43.13 | Neffi | No X. Just a CLI setup |
| 11:44.09 | Humbedooh | what hypervisor are you going to use? |
| 11:44.16 | zenzio | I think Ubuntu Server comes without a UI; most likely Debian and CentOS too. Then there's obviously Slackware. And probably others |
| 11:44.29 | Humbedooh | or are you renting a VPS? |
| 11:44.48 | Neffi | VMware or Virtualbox |
| 11:44.55 | Humbedooh | ew :p |
| 11:44.57 | Humbedooh | but okeh.. |
| 11:45.03 | Neffi | I'm on Windows |
| 11:45.08 | Humbedooh | kk |
| 11:45.38 | Neffi | I'm also gonna start learning network/computer security |
| 11:50.00 | zenzio | if you want to go for something common, I think CentOS, Debian and Ubuntu Server are the most commonplace (but don't blindly trust this, I haven't looked into it) |
| 11:51.55 | Neffi | CentOS seems to be very popular, yeah |
| 12:00.17 | Neffi | I think I'm gonna go with fBSD actually |
| 12:00.28 | Neffi | I've used it some, and it was a joy. |
| 12:00.54 | Humbedooh | \o/ |
| 12:01.10 | Humbedooh | though, no LuaJIT then :C |
| 12:01.31 | Neffi | To be honest I don't care about LuaJIT |
| 12:01.55 | Neffi | It's one of those things that's nifty to have, but doesn't matter if I don't have. I don't use the FFI and reference Lua is fast enough. |
| 12:02.21 | Neffi | Also I believe LuaJIT does run on fBSD anyway |
| 12:02.31 | Humbedooh | *nod* I use fbsd myself on my server, and Lua 5.2 is plenty fast for what I need it for |
| 12:02.38 | Humbedooh | that's what I meant, no LuaJIT on fbsd |
| 12:02.44 | Humbedooh | because of memory thingies |
| 12:04.50 | Neffi | I want to start getting used to 5.2 anyway, and LuaJIT has decided to stick to 5.1 + select 5.2 features |
| 12:07.06 | Humbedooh | 5.2 is the good stuff |
| 12:08.04 | Neffi | When somebody in #lua was asking if replacing function calls by stitching all his code together to goto statements would be faster, I for a moment wanted to pretend 5.2 never happened |
| 12:08.21 | Humbedooh | haha |
| 12:08.42 | Humbedooh | you could totally program like it was BASIC if you wanted to |
| 12:08.52 | nevcairiel | thats why goto is dangerous, it invites misconduct |
| 12:09.03 | Neffi | I dont find 5.2 useful to me, but I dont know how 5.3 and 5.4 will look. And I'd rather keep up to date as it changes. |
| 12:10.08 | Neffi | So far the only excuse I've heard for the addition of gotos was to break out of nested loops |
| 12:10.17 | Neffi | I'd rather they added something else |
| 12:12.24 | nevcairiel | http://xkcd.com/292/ |
| 12:13.02 | Neffi | For all his love of velociraptors, he draws them very unrealistically |
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| 12:26.10 | zenzio | you mean without feathers? |
| 12:28.24 | Neffi | Yes. And unreasonably large. |
| 12:28.57 | Neffi | His representation is so unreasonably large, that if we scaled up a well known animal by the same factor, the results would be horrifying |
| 12:31.30 | nevcairiel | doesnt look too large in the GOTO strip |
| 12:32.35 | nevcairiel | it jumped, afterall |
| 12:32.51 | Neffi | No, it's still horrifyingly big |
| 12:33.03 | Neffi | They were roughly the size of turkeys |
| 12:33.14 | Neffi | Not very big turkeys either |
| 12:34.57 | nevcairiel | i have no idea how big a turkey is, but considering it looks to be hovering over the ground due to its jump and reach the height of a sitting human, that seems to be pretty close to reality, maybe slightly too big, but not much |
| 12:35.19 | Neffi | About twice as big, if not more |
| 12:35.43 | Neffi | A vraptor would come up to your knee, roughly. They were also very lean, and their tails much less fat. |
| 12:37.08 | Neffi | http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/cd/Velociraptor_dinoguy2.jpg |
| 12:37.09 | nevcairiel | around 50cm in body height, plus the head, and then it jumped, i dont think the size is too exagerated |
| 12:37.49 | Neffi | His torso is longer than the man's |
| 12:37.57 | nevcairiel | its more of a jurassic park raptor then an actual raptor, but hey |
| 12:39.04 | Neffi | It's especially annoying to depict velociraptors as being so much "beefier" than they really were, because they were such a fucking awesome and perfect animal |
| 12:39.26 | Neffi | Lean, fast and agile as fuck, and incredible hunters. Smart as hell too. |
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| 12:57.24 | Fisker | hastes |
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| 13:13.50 | Neffi | Shirik: lo |
| 13:14.21 | Neffi | http://lua-users.org/wiki/LuaBot <- but the IRC code is too specific to be released generally |
| 13:14.44 | Neffi | So, blah. Is what is linked on the GitHub sufficient to run the bot? |
| 13:22.26 | bluspacecow | Hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii to u Neffi |
| 13:22.37 | Neffi | omg it's cow |
| 13:24.53 | bluspacecow | *chews grass from somewhere* |
| 13:24.55 | bluspacecow | Mooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo |
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| 13:25.39 | moomoocow | mooooooo to you tooo |
| 13:26.29 | bluspacecow | O_O |
| 13:26.33 | bluspacecow | MOOOO |
| 13:26.40 | moomoocow | MOOOOO |
| 13:26.50 | moomoocow | milk everywhere! |
| 13:26.50 | bluspacecow | Mooo |
| 13:34.49 | Neffi | .... o.o |
| 13:35.03 | Semlar | well this is awkward |
| 13:35.29 | Neffi | Semlar |
| 13:35.44 | Semlar | moo? |
| 13:35.48 | bluspacecow | MOO |
| 13:35.55 | Neffi | moo |
| 13:36.47 | Neffi | I think moomoocow is bluspacecow in disguise |
| 13:36.58 | moomoocow | lies |
| 13:37.04 | bluspacecow | moooo! moo moo moo (translation : No wai!) |
| 13:37.35 | moomoocow | can't there be two cows? |
| 13:37.40 | moomoocow | double the udders |
| 13:37.44 | nevcairiel | nope |
| 13:37.48 | moomoocow | :( |
| 13:37.49 | nevcairiel | we only have room for one |
| 13:37.49 | Neffi | I don't know. We'll have to consult an expert. |
| 13:37.53 | Neffi | Semlar: , get right on this |
| 13:38.57 | Maldivia | guess this one is relavent again then: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gi5IEjeH6E |
| 13:40.14 | Neffi | pretty much what I imagine bluspacecow is like in person |
| 13:40.41 | bluspacecow | MOO! |
| 13:43.45 | Semlar | well since one of them is a space cow it should be possible to accommodate both |
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| 13:45.15 | Neffi | Dammit, I don't need an of your fancy bumbo-jumbo terms |
| 13:45.19 | Neffi | Give it to me straight, man |
| 13:46.01 | moomoocow | server Neffi some lukewarm milk, straight from the udders |
| 13:46.06 | moomoocow | serves* :C |
| 13:46.13 | Neffi | yummy |
| 13:46.18 | Neffi | unpasturized goodness |
| 13:46.20 | Neffi | dies. |
| 13:46.38 | moomoocow | mebbe I heated the udders to 100 degrees first |
| 13:46.41 | Semlar | at the current rate we'll be up to our gills in milk by brunch |
| 13:46.41 | moomoocow | it could happen |
| 13:46.52 | moomoocow | friction and what not |
| 13:47.07 | Neffi | Semlar: you're a fish? |
| 13:47.14 | Semlar | celsius or fahrenheit |
| 13:47.23 | moomoocow | the proper one |
| 13:47.28 | nevcairiel | so fahrenheit? |
| 13:47.30 | Neffi | kelvin? |
| 13:47.31 | Semlar | is that a trick question |
| 13:47.32 | moomoocow | pffft |
| 13:47.53 | moomoocow | 373 kelvin then |
| 13:48.07 | Semlar | i don't even know any kelvins |
| 13:48.21 | Neffi | 373k=boiling |
| 13:48.27 | moomoocow | boiling udders |
| 13:48.39 | Neffi | sounds like the name of a shitty rock band |
| 13:48.46 | Semlar | sounds uncomfortable |
| 13:48.58 | moomoocow | much so |
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| 14:27.26 | mikma | http://9gag.com/gag/aYbVo3N |
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| 14:56.10 | Neffi | mikma: you browser 9gag? |
| 14:56.42 | airtonix | Neffi: mikma has no shame |
| 14:56.49 | Neffi | I see that |
| 14:57.32 | airtonix | mikma once posted a screenshot of internet explorer being accepted as the default browser. on linux! |
| 14:58.05 | Neffi | how is that even possible |
| 15:01.49 | mikma | neffi: i was misguided there by facebook |
| 15:02.36 | mikma | actually... |
| 15:02.55 | mikma | it's industrial's fault, he linked 9gag image into facebook |
| 15:03.05 | airtonix | Neffi: internet explorer does run under wine. |
| 15:03.19 | airtonix | badly, but it runs. |
| 15:04.00 | Neffi | You misunderstand me |
| 15:05.06 | Neffi | how did he survive rms? |
| 15:05.54 | airtonix | oh rms isn't like balmer, he won't throw chairs at you for deviating. |
| 15:06.10 | airtonix | he just makes blog posts four months later about it |
| 15:06.56 | airtonix | blog posts so long and on some un known website that only one person on the internet accidentally finds it and reads it out of boredom |
| 15:07.27 | Neffi | I imagine rms reads his own blog in his free time |
| 15:07.36 | Neffi | "mmm. yeah. these are my ideas" |
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| 16:23.48 | jleclanche | airtonix: check it out |
| 16:23.49 | jleclanche | https://github.com/Adys/Wikt/blob/master/wikt.py |
| 16:29.05 | Fisker | slaps Lopeppeppy around a bit with a large trout |
| 16:31.20 | Lopeppeppy | Holy shit. It actually is lunchtime already. Where did the morning go? |
| 16:31.43 | Fisker | I don't know |
| 16:31.50 | Fisker | I got the day off early because of storm |
| 16:31.51 | Fisker | yay |
| 16:32.02 | nevcairiel | so flying away yet Fisker? |
| 16:32.07 | Fisker | nope |
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| 16:54.27 | Ackis | this is so sad :( http://i.imgur.com/2OJPfQ9.jpg |
| 17:00.28 | Ackis | coldest day of the year so far and my wife didn't want to drive me to work! :( |
| 17:02.17 | Fisker | That sucks Ackis |
| 17:02.26 | Fisker | Did you drive yourself to work then? |
| 17:02.46 | Ackis | to the park and ride for a nice 10 minute walk in -22C weather with wind blowing |
| 17:03.32 | foxlit | Ackis is clearly canadian. |
| 17:03.56 | Fisker | Denmark best canada world foxlit |
| 17:04.05 | Fisker | btw raf still works for dk's |
| 17:04.36 | Ackis | foxlit: of course imma Canuck |
| 17:05.38 | Fisker | Well you're definitely not nice like a canuck |
| 17:05.39 | Fisker | :3 |
| 17:05.59 | Torhal | Fisker: He's trying to be American. |
| 17:06.01 | Fisker | ah |
| 17:06.55 | Ressy | Ackis: Looks like a bunch of newssites did a story on her. |
| 17:07.01 | Ressy | http://www.cbc.ca/newsblogs/yourcommunity/2013/12/washington-woman-unintentionally-live-tweets-husbands-death-in-fatal-crash.html |
| 17:08.35 | Fisker | wow :( |
| 17:10.10 | Ressy | Apparently the trooper had been live-tweeting about the accident. And after the woman's question about the cars involved, stopped tweeting because he didn't want her to find out over twitter |
| 17:10.32 | Ackis | Ressy: I saw it on reddit yesterday about 2 hours after it happened... seeing her last tweet was just... ugh |
| 17:10.42 | Ressy | :( |
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| 17:12.09 | Ackis | I saw people writing comments like "how could she do that, her husband just died" and I wanted to bitch slap them all |
| 17:12.37 | Ressy | as in how could she live tweet? |
| 17:12.50 | Ackis | yeah |
| 17:13.02 | Ressy | ugh.. People are clueless idiots. Timestamps people. |
| 17:13.24 | jleclanche | "Download a copy of your Gmail and Google Calendar data " |
| 17:13.26 | Ackis | eh it's not even timestamps, I completely understand her going and posting her husbands death on twitter |
| 17:13.29 | jleclanche | whining: "Unfortunately this requires you to be able to log in." |
| 17:13.31 | jleclanche | WOAH. |
| 17:14.04 | Ackis | something like that happens, it hasn't hit you yet, you're numb, don't know what to do, don't have anything to do |
| 17:14.06 | Ressy | Ackis: People were probably msging her like crazy asking if her husband was ok.. |
| 17:14.07 | jleclanche | its a shame i cant download arbitrary accounts' emails |
| 17:14.16 | jleclanche | that'd be nice, this feature is useless without it |
| 17:14.26 | Ressy | quick tweet telling what happend, stops the 'is he ok?' which hurts more. |
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| 17:15.15 | Fisker | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:15.18 | Ackis | I still remember the night Jay died and how my sister and nephews/nieces acted and how I acted.. it was all surreal |
| 17:15.33 | Ressy | You do go numb for a while.. |
| 17:15.35 | Ressy | dazed |
| 17:15.53 | Fisker | do what* |
| 17:16.39 | Ackis | the crisis management people at the hospital gave the kids snacks to eat, and when Kim was on the phone with me telling me Jay died she mentioned that the kids were sitting down, going through the snacks and separating what had peanuts and what didn't... this was within hours of them seeing their dad die |
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| 18:30.08 | Lopeppeppy | Blurbs overheard, Peppy to The Boyfriend: "Squirrel pizza is bad for you. Please ask for a vegetarian option." |
| 18:30.33 | alestane | SQUIRREL! |
| 18:31.59 | Shirik | wat |
| 18:39.07 | Lopeppeppy | Next topic was why taking your ipad to the hospital was bad. |
| 18:46.27 | Fisker | I wouldn't want squirrel pizza |
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| 18:47.59 | Lopeppeppy | In keeping with the pledge that I signed along with Cogwheel, I'd have to at least try it. |
| 18:49.18 | Fisker | I'd like some cogwheel pizza |
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| 18:50.16 | Lopeppeppy | Cog-a-thingie is not for eating, he is for going out to dinner with. |
| 18:50.38 | cogwheel | is hungry now |
| 18:51.29 | Fisker | Can't know until you try Lopeppeppy |
| 18:51.55 | Lopeppeppy | The agreement is not to eat anything illegal. Cogathingie is not legal to hunt. |
| 18:52.06 | Fisker | yay snow |
| 18:52.39 | Fisker | cogwheel pizza is legal in international waters |
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| 19:26.56 | foxlit | "forbid SetTradeMoney and SendMail, patch by nevcairiel" |
| 19:27.07 | foxlit | solved the halting problem yet, nevcairiel? :) |
| 19:27.18 | nevcairiel | the what? |
| 19:27.43 | foxlit | determining whether arbitrary code is malicious, of course :) |
| 19:28.00 | nevcairiel | nah, its impossible of course |
| 19:29.39 | nevcairiel | its also really hard to block sendmail without re-implementing a sandbox like the secure environment, because its used way too much throughout the default ui |
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| 19:32.38 | foxlit | So this only blocks really obvious attempts to call those functions. |
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| 19:33.16 | nevcairiel | yes, i've been trying to come up with another scheme, but so far no luck |
| 19:33.32 | nevcairiel | i considered hooking the function and checking somehow if its called from within such a scriptlet |
| 19:34.43 | nevcairiel | maybe that would even work half-cleanly |
| 19:35.12 | Semlar | can't you restrict what functions are accessible from your script by changing the environment |
| 19:35.40 | Semlar | isn't that what the last taint fix did |
| 19:36.33 | nevcairiel | well sure |
| 19:36.37 | foxlit | I don't think you could detect who is ultimately responsible for calling the function. |
| 19:36.52 | nevcairiel | i could set a variable which i check for in my hook wrapper |
| 19:36.56 | kd3 | oh wow. a one-build bump? |
| 19:37.10 | nevcairiel | kd3: more karazan renaming trolls |
| 19:37.55 | nevcairiel | foxlit: like, blockSendmail = true; stuff(); blockSendmail = false ... if stuff() tries to call sendmail, i'll know because the var is set |
| 19:37.56 | kd3 | hah. I hope the datamining sites have finally figured out that blizz is trolling them by this piont |
| 19:38.28 | foxlit | nevcairiel: meh, CreateFrame("FRAME"):SetScript("OnUpdate", moreStuff) |
| 19:38.37 | nevcairiel | hm i guess so |
| 19:39.13 | Semlar | why can't you just use setfenv and explicitly list out what functions the script is allowed to call |
| 19:40.11 | nevcairiel | while that would work of course |
| 19:40.27 | nevcairiel | its kinda hard to shoe-horn onto an old addon without breaking every script in existance |
| 19:40.33 | foxlit | maintaining that list would be painful, and people would be like "why you break my stuffs!" |
| 19:41.40 | Semlar | well, you could have it restrict just shared auras but i don't know this whole thing seems like overkill to me |
| 19:43.41 | nevcairiel | its an impossible problem really |
| 19:44.48 | foxlit | which makes mmo's "please update your copy of WeakAuras to the latest version, which protects against this kind of exploit" somewhat misleading. |
| 19:45.53 | nevcairiel | i can make the SendMail API unavailable pretty reliably, however sadly its in an OnClick of a frame as well, and hiding frames is pretty hard :p |
| 19:47.32 | ccox | http://www.buzzfeed.com/summeranne/real-life-fox-and-the-hound-best-friends-will-melt-your-hear?bffb |
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| 20:01.18 | ccox | http://io9.com/the-blues-brothers-mall-car-chase-scene-perfectly-rec-1475760739 |
| 20:07.21 | bleeter | '"This is worse than the tulip mania,” a former Dutch central bank president said about Bitcoin. “At least then you got a tulip."' lol |
| 20:09.43 | Silvanas | tobad we cannot dump data to file :/ |
| 20:11.34 | Silvanas | i gues i can add a saved variable to dump a logfile to but that just bad :D |
| 20:15.31 | ccox | Can't stop laughing… http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oi7KPDi_yQI&feature=youtu.be |
| 20:15.40 | kd3 | well, at least I don't have to send an email today |
| 20:16.40 | Ressy | no UI changes? |
| 20:16.49 | kd3 | my diff came back empty |
| 20:16.55 | Ressy | nice |
| 20:17.01 | Ressy | So probably Tuesday |
| 20:19.57 | foxlit | too soon, executus. |
| 20:20.02 | Kodiack | i love bitcoins |
| 20:20.06 | Kodiack | i noticed they were mentioned in here |
| 20:20.14 | Alram | buttcoins |
| 20:20.34 | Kodiack | http://i.imgur.com/j6Owme6.png |
| 20:20.37 | Kodiack | bitcoin-funded SSD :3 |
| 20:22.58 | foxlit | http://pastebin.com/KyDMbvCK << I wonder if that's enough, or if I'm missing anything important. |
| 20:28.39 | foxlit | [aside from several ends] |
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| 20:48.36 | Silvanas | anyonek now if its posable to do rightside padding like ? string.format("%20s", description) |
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| 20:52.56 | nevcairiel | lua> string.format("%20s", "foo") |
| 20:52.56 | lua_bot | nevcairiel: foo |
| 20:53.01 | nevcairiel | oh right side |
| 20:53.12 | nevcairiel | why would you right side padding |
| 20:53.17 | nevcairiel | +do |
| 20:53.28 | nevcairiel | i thought you mean this command doesnt work :p |
| 20:53.49 | nevcairiel | can always do it manually if you really must |
| 20:53.51 | TC-Work | for extra space between the border? |
| 20:54.35 | nevcairiel | function pad(s, len) return s .. " ":rep(len-strlen(s)) end |
| 20:54.37 | nevcairiel | or something |
| 20:54.44 | nevcairiel | plus checks that it actually needs spaces |
| 20:55.05 | Silvanas | well it looks better with right side padding text :D |
| 20:55.25 | Silvanas | but if there is no standart method for it then ill just use the left padding |
| 21:00.11 | kd3|hate`net | what... how the? 107-way multiboxing? |
| 21:00.14 | kd3|hate`net | http://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/1s5gs1/wow_new_record_multiboxer_with_107_accounts/ |
| 21:01.28 | Fisker | why not? |
| 21:01.33 | Fisker | Only limited is money anyway |
| 21:01.56 | kd3 | that's... ~$1600/mo |
| 21:02.06 | kd3 | I've got better things to spend that kind of money on |
| 21:02.13 | Fisker | We all do |
| 21:02.16 | Fisker | some people don't though |
| 21:02.20 | Stanzilla | he probably pays his gametime with gold |
| 21:02.25 | Stanzilla | not with dollars |
| 21:04.35 | Stanzilla | kd3: I assume 17645 had no changes either? |
| 21:04.45 | kd3 | yah |
| 21:10.44 | TC-Work | http://kotaku.com/first-world-of-warcraft-movie-actors-revealed-1476786121 old but I missed it |
| 21:13.00 | Silvanas | do you think GetPlayerInfoByGUID("guid") |
| 21:13.08 | Silvanas | will work if the target player is offline ? |
| 21:18.45 | Torhal | Silvanas: Try it by recording the GUID of an alt. |
| 21:18.56 | Torhal | I kinda doubt it though. |
| 21:21.50 | End | it caches it doesn't it |
| 21:22.09 | End | I have no idea if it's a cache that persists on disk though |
| 21:30.11 | Fisker | night friendos and Lopeppeppy |
| 21:30.21 | Lopeppeppy | Sleep well, Fiskerdin. |
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| 21:41.52 | bleeter | this is so sad :-/ lady (unknowingly) live tweets her husband's fatal car crash http://http://www.columbian.com/news/2013/dec/04/one-person-dead-collision-i-205-southbound |
| 21:41.57 | bleeter | bah, bad past |
| 21:42.03 | kd3 | heh, gc's name change just happened. he's now OccupyGStreet on twitter |
| 21:42.05 | bleeter | this is so sad :-/ lady (unknowingly) live tweets her husband's fatal car crash http://www.columbian.com/news/2013/dec/04/one-person-dead-collision-i-205-southbound |
| 21:43.33 | zenzelezz | https://twitter.com/rickygervais/status/408681043756347393/photo/1 |
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| 21:50.10 | Ackis | old bleeter |
| 21:50.37 | bleeter | confirmed, mandela has passed away |
| 22:01.40 | Arrowmaster | oh thats weird, i got sent a new credit card and it doesnt have any raised numbers on the front of it, just printed numbers on the back |
| 22:02.16 | kd3 | when was the last time you saw an old-style carbon paper credit card thing? |
| 22:03.30 | Arrowmaster | not that long ago actually |
| 22:03.51 | Arrowmaster | they still get pulled out when the computers are down |
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| 22:04.20 | kd3 | heh. target got rid of all of theirs (at least at my old store) a few years ago |
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| 22:06.15 | xyphoid | yeah shops all have those here even though we've been primarily a debit card economy for 20 years |
| 22:06.21 | kd3 | the pos backend just caches stuff until the cc link comes back up if it ever goes down (which it did more than once)... losing the debit system on the other hand cost us a lot of sales one day |
| 22:11.38 | Stanzilla | for the nexus 4 users: http://android.clients.google.com/packages/data/ota/google_mako/0896df95085b6ad55bbe4694a612da0c6ed2fa1c.signed-occam-KOT49E-from-KRT16S.0896df95.zip |
| 22:13.02 | Semlar | wait, the raised numbers are for something? |
| 22:15.25 | kd3 | https://encrypted.google.com/search?q=manual+credit+card+reader&tbm=isch |
| 22:15.28 | kd3 | those |
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| 22:17.00 | Semlar | it makes a carbon copy of it? |
| 22:17.07 | kd3 | yup |
| 22:17.30 | Arrowmaster | i think i have one around here somewhere |
| 22:17.31 | Arrowmaster | dont ask |
| 22:17.36 | Semlar | that seems kind of dangerous |
| 22:18.16 | Arrowmaster | how so |
| 22:18.17 | Semlar | but i guess there isn't much stopping anyone from copying it anyway |
| 22:18.56 | Semlar | well, you get their credit card number that's about all you need to use it |
| 22:19.24 | Semlar | so once they're done with it you've got a sheet of paper with a copy of your credit card information |
| 22:19.54 | Arrowmaster | right, my parents had a card used on them many many years ago and think it was from when a store was doing a going out of business sale and using the paper sheets and then just sticking the papers on a spike on the counter |
| 22:20.10 | Arrowmaster | somebody probably just stole the sheet and got the numbers |
| 22:20.11 | Semlar | >_> |
| 22:21.12 | Semlar | i've had my card information stolen and i've never used it anywhere except swiping it at publix, the gas station and the atm |
| 22:21.50 | kd3 | haha... northern people problems: http://i.imgur.com/KF7y1DU.jpg |
| 22:22.11 | Arrowmaster | its no joke |
| 22:22.16 | Arrowmaster | it really does happen |
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| 22:22.21 | Semlar | the parking lot appears to be drifting |
| 22:24.01 | Semlar | oh oh relevant curb your enthusiasm http://youtu.be/pfHvr1La2LI |
| 22:25.39 | Ackis | "If I was getting the electric chair, I would stuff myself with popcorn kernels" |
| 22:26.54 | Ackis | oh God kd3 that's more like a small snow storm in some southern place, up here in the north we know how to park when you can't see lines |
| 22:28.01 | Arrowmaster | http://www.vgcats.com/vgc_comics/images/031131.jpg |
| 22:28.02 | Arrowmaster | thats what ohio drivers are like |
| 22:29.23 | Semlar | appears to be kansas |
| 22:29.35 | Primer | They don't use Kilometers in the USA |
| 22:30.26 | Arrowmaster | some of us try but ultimately end up failing |
| 22:30.47 | Primer | How odd is it that the US military uses metric |
| 22:30.51 | kd3 | sure we do. they're just called klicks |
| 22:30.56 | Primer | and have for a long time |
| 22:31.19 | Seerah | ^^ what Ackis said |
| 22:31.48 | Arrowmaster | far north is just used to it and accepts the snow |
| 22:31.58 | Semlar | what is 10 kilometers per hour in english |
| 22:32.09 | Seerah | 10 kilometers per hour |
| 22:32.11 | Arrowmaster | my friend totaled his truck one year because a city decided it could save money by not salting the roads |
| 22:32.16 | Semlar | that doesn't sound right |
| 22:32.16 | Primer | 10 kilometers per hour |
| 22:32.29 | kd3 | it's around 6mph |
| 22:32.30 | Primer | say it with an English accent |
| 22:32.35 | Semlar | ah 6mph |
| 22:32.42 | Semlar | i don't think my car can go that slow |
| 22:32.54 | Arrowmaster | mine cant, i know this for a fact |
| 22:33.02 | Primer | You've never been to LA |
| 22:33.20 | Semlar | i've.. heard of LA |
| 22:34.11 | Arrowmaster | if i tried to coast at 6mph it would just result is some coasting at less then 6mph then the car jerking as i let off the clutch and going faster than 6mph |
| 22:34.39 | Arrowmaster | or staling, its been doing that lately |
| 22:34.54 | Primer | than |
| 22:35.10 | Primer | and, you can't drive a clutch, IMO |
| 22:35.25 | Arrowmaster | no i drive a clutch very well |
| 22:35.54 | Arrowmaster | i just drive a car with an engine that has an abnormally large amount of low end torque |
| 22:36.34 | Arrowmaster | i have done a burn out where i kept the wheels spinning all the way into 3rd gear before |
| 22:36.50 | Arrowmaster | a very silly thing to do |
| 22:37.33 | Arrowmaster | but thats what you do when you are 16 |
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| 22:41.11 | Primer | I learned to drive a clutch on a car with a column shifter |
| 22:41.25 | Primer | on a beach in Brazil |
| 22:42.21 | Primer | cd |
| 22:51.51 | Sintacks | i wonder what causes the BMAH UI to not be clickable :| |
| 22:52.08 | Semlar | i think there are frame level issues |
| 22:52.26 | Semlar | it happens a lot with a bunch of different blizzard panels for me |
| 22:56.43 | Amarande | probably some odd arse thing getting tainted |
| 22:57.01 | Amarande | like a while back when it seemed like the most innocent of game actions would cause the glyph panel to get tainted |
| 22:57.21 | Amarande | or how on my last UI setup, Shadowed Unit Frames kept getting tainted by something |
| 22:57.30 | Amarande | (and tbh I never really did figure out just what) |
| 23:00.49 | Amarande | if it's anything like the glyph panel glitch, I *think* that resulted from some rogue global variable name or something? |
| 23:02.38 | Sintacks | Semlar, same. including dungeon journal |
| 23:03.08 | Semlar | i don't know, i just reload the ui when it happens |
| 23:03.14 | Semlar | i gave up trying to figure out why |
| 23:03.53 | Sintacks | lol yeah |
| 23:04.05 | Sintacks | that's why I still use Otis for dungeon journal |
| 23:04.13 | Sintacks | so go between bosses if they aren't clickable |
| 23:04.16 | Sintacks | cuz reload takes too long |
| 23:06.53 | karl_w_w | arse things get tainted? |
| 23:07.45 | Amarande | I was glad they fixed the ParentalControls issue in QuestGuru quickly, though |
| 23:08.02 | Amarande | in the intermediate, I was using MonkeyQuest, and I remembered just exactly one of the reasons why I switched to QuestGuru :P |
| 23:08.35 | Amarande | well, although the *main* reason I switched from MQ to QG was considerably more catastrophic, not just the fact that QG tends to be a lot smoother to work with |
| 23:09.18 | Amarande | it was early in cata and MQ had some kind of horrendous bug, which I'm still not sure what caused, although MQ was found guilty by binary search so I know it was the addon that did it :S |
| 23:09.20 | karl_w_w | the only interesting part of that is that there are so many people that need help with their quests, that there are multiple addons for the job |
| 23:09.46 | Amarande | well for the most part I use quest addons for two purposes anyway |
| 23:09.58 | Amarande | one being that the blizz quest tracker doesn't show quest levels, which I like to see |
| 23:10.06 | Amarande | the other being for the improved tracker |
| 23:11.00 | Amarande | actual quest *helper* addons seem to have mostly become obsolete since Blizz improved the map in the default UI |
| 23:11.37 | karl_w_w | I'm really pissed that somebody took my screen name in wildstar |
| 23:12.29 | karl_w_w | there is nothing else to use so I will probably just not bother signing up |
| 23:12.40 | karl_w_w | if I can't be me I can't be anything at all! |
| 23:16.51 | Sintacks | I use something that adds quest levels and that's all it does. |
| 23:16.54 | Sintacks | i frogto what |
| 23:16.56 | Sintacks | forgot too |
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