| 00:00.07 | MiRai | the most anyone multiboxes is ~60 |
| 00:00.12 | MiRai | and it's not on a single BNet account |
| 00:00.42 | MiRai | (I realize the reply is a little late) |
| 00:05.13 | fewyn | i'm trying to chain RAF |
| 00:05.21 | fewyn | but it seems ti takes up to 72 hours for all trial bullshit |
| 00:05.26 | fewyn | to come off an account |
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| 00:14.19 | MiRai | fewyn: Other multiboxers on dual-boxing.com who are using the new system are reporting the same thing |
| 00:14.39 | MiRai | I can't say I know a way to make remove the restrictions any quicker |
| 00:14.39 | fewyn | yeah |
| 00:14.41 | fewyn | it's annoying |
| 00:14.45 | fewyn | there isn't |
| 00:15.29 | MiRai | I wonder if calling Blizzard directly is still an option |
| 00:15.37 | MiRai | or if they'll just tell you to use the in-game system |
| 00:15.47 | MiRai | obviously it's Thanksgiving, but... |
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| 00:18.20 | Amarande | btw, not that I'd be crazy enough to get that many accounts, of course |
| 00:18.26 | Amarande | but, is that 8 total or 8 per region? |
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| 00:20.45 | MiRai | 8 total regardless of region |
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| 01:09.44 | iShirik | hrm |
| 01:09.52 | iShirik | can't quassel give me a playback of everything I missed? |
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| 01:27.38 | Kraps | GC is leaving! |
| 01:29.06 | adys | iShirik: it can, yes |
| 01:29.14 | adys | it does by default in fact |
| 01:29.19 | jleclanche | also, urgh |
| 01:29.21 | jleclanche | http://www.peopleperhour.com/job/urgent-recaptcha-reader-ocr-tool-372218 |
| 01:29.21 | iShirik | it doesn't seem to |
| 01:29.23 | jleclanche | i want to throw up |
| 01:29.32 | iShirik | it didn't play back anything |
| 01:29.47 | jleclanche | iShirik: what do you mean by "play back"? |
| 01:29.53 | iShirik | I was gone for hours |
| 01:29.55 | jleclanche | it has infinite scrollback |
| 01:29.59 | iShirik | I assume that in that time, someone said something |
| 01:30.26 | iShirik | literally "hrm" is the first thing I see in this channel |
| 01:30.35 | jleclanche | iShirik: are you using the fat client? |
| 01:30.43 | iShirik | no, core is running on my server |
| 01:30.57 | jleclanche | uh |
| 01:31.16 | iShirik | core also says uptime of 7 hours |
| 01:31.23 | jleclanche | i never had to configure anything for this, i wouldnt even know where the option is |
| 01:31.23 | jleclanche | sec |
| 01:31.24 | iShirik | which seems about right |
| 01:31.38 | iShirik | (just to confirm, I didn't just join this channel 20 minutes ago, right?) |
| 01:31.44 | jleclanche | you didnt |
| 01:31.46 | jleclanche | you were there |
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| 01:31.51 | jleclanche | [01:09:44] <iShirik> hrm |
| 01:31.51 | jleclanche | [01:09:52] <iShirik> can't quassel give me a playback of everything I missed? |
| 01:32.44 | jleclanche | iShirik: config -> backlog fetching |
| 01:32.45 | jleclanche | look there |
| 01:33.20 | iShirik | http://gyazo.com/63d4ec9526eb5f089dc8d57163116350 |
| 01:33.24 | iShirik | looks OK |
| 01:33.57 | iShirik | woah |
| 01:34.03 | iShirik | when I changed it to "unread messages" it worked |
| 01:34.58 | iShirik | ok then thanks |
| 01:35.01 | iShirik | not sure what I changed |
| 01:35.03 | iShirik | but it works now |
| 01:43.25 | iShirik | I must say jleclanche I'm liking quassel so far |
| 01:43.29 | iShirik | We shall see if it lasts |
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| 01:53.48 | airtonix | iShirik: when you graduate to a mature phone operating system like android, then you can use quassel there too |
| 01:54.29 | iShirik | lol @ android and mature in the same sentence |
| 01:54.39 | airtonix | umadbro? |
| 01:54.58 | iShirik | not paritcularly mad; perhaps "amused" |
| 01:55.20 | airtonix | so you admit to the bro part then. |
| 01:55.25 | airtonix | progress at least |
| 01:55.25 | iShirik | yes |
| 01:55.45 | airtonix | the horizon of iPuberty is near for you |
| 01:56.17 | airtonix | you know what they say, admission is the first step |
| 01:56.33 | jleclanche | iShirik: glad you like it |
| 01:56.45 | jleclanche | its the ONLY good irc client in the world |
| 01:56.49 | jleclanche | that i could ever find |
| 01:57.02 | jleclanche | not a hyperbole |
| 02:02.47 | jleclanche | i should probably set up ssl for my domain name.. |
| 02:10.13 | airtonix | karl_w_w: http://www.reddit.com/r/thankstony |
| 02:19.07 | iShirik | btw jleclanche I only have one more request |
| 02:19.14 | iShirik | which kinda exists as a feature I just haven't figured it out yet |
| 02:19.24 | iShirik | I want mode indicators next to nicknames |
| 02:19.26 | iShirik | @ + etc |
| 02:19.32 | jleclanche | I uh |
| 02:19.40 | jleclanche | i never found that |
| 02:19.49 | iShirik | I saw a committed patch for it |
| 02:19.52 | iShirik | I just can't figure out how to use it |
| 02:19.57 | jleclanche | when was it committed? |
| 02:20.10 | iShirik | "over two years ago" |
| 02:20.43 | jleclanche | iShirik: link it? |
| 02:22.40 | jleclanche | iShirik: im interested |
| 02:22.55 | iShirik | https://gitorious.org/quassel/quassel/merge_requests/132 |
| 02:23.30 | jleclanche | ah |
| 02:23.37 | jleclanche | sounds like you might need your own stylesheet |
| 02:23.50 | jleclanche | interesting i didnt know it was possible |
| 02:30.15 | jleclanche | iShirik: actually i dont know wtf that is |
| 02:30.20 | jleclanche | ask in #quassel and let me know how to do it |
| 02:30.27 | iShirik | I probably will eventually |
| 02:32.45 | jleclanche | ~ping |
| 02:32.46 | purl | ~pong |
| 02:34.06 | jleclanche | effin hell |
| 02:34.22 | jleclanche | bittylicious has btc at £919 |
| 02:34.32 | jleclanche | fuck any other country than the us, right |
| 02:36.31 | iShirik | yet another reason I want to live in Japan |
| 02:36.46 | iShirik | apparently today (yesterday) was Knee-High Socks Day |
| 02:44.57 | jleclanche | so i dont get this reasoning |
| 02:45.26 | jleclanche | whenever the subject of the "ease of buying BTCs" is brought up, people mention that you cant buy them with CCs because they can be charged back |
| 02:45.34 | jleclanche | isnt that .. the issue with everything else too |
| 02:48.13 | pompy | "On Nov 22, 2013, your Amazon Student membership expired. We charged your default credit card (or another card on file) the full Amazon Prime rate of $79/year, which renewed your Amazon Prime membership for another year. If you're still a student, please submit proof of your continued status before Jan 22, 2014 to re-instate your Amazon Student membership, receive a refund for the $79 charge, and renew your Amazon Prime at the dis |
| 02:48.17 | pompy | oh well >< |
| 02:54.39 | jleclanche | AAAAARRRHHHHHHH |
| 02:54.50 | jleclanche | how can a password field be "any symbols allowed" when you do THIS SHIT |
| 02:54.52 | jleclanche | g=/^[a-z0-9!@#$%^&*(){}:;<>?=+-_~`.,]{6,64}$/i |
| 02:55.07 | jleclanche | note that its a hell of a lot better than.. alternatives... |
| 02:55.21 | jleclanche | but now i dont fucking know which symbols are not matching that regex |
| 02:56.30 | jleclanche | fge'-UDP<2(CO<8~gla2-|)U+jgks(7TL2Ko[!)]_?5DvIo}6GULy#-1041qz.ej |
| 02:56.32 | jleclanche | that doesnt match |
| 02:56.39 | jleclanche | fuck me and everything else. |
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| 02:57.22 | xyphoid | ' |
| 02:57.25 | kd3 | it's the ' |
| 02:57.26 | xyphoid | isn't in the regex |
| 02:57.37 | jleclanche | oh thank you |
| 02:58.02 | xyphoid | neither are [] |
| 02:58.03 | jleclanche | (except now I cant use that) |
| 02:59.11 | jleclanche | my god this is awful. |
| 02:59.26 | jleclanche | keepass i love you |
| 02:59.34 | jleclanche | theres a character set option |
| 03:01.02 | iShirik | um |
| 03:01.08 | iShirik | that regex looks like it has a bug in there jleclanche |
| 03:01.15 | jleclanche | ? |
| 03:01.28 | iShirik | that - after the + is semi-illegal |
| 03:01.39 | jleclanche | it is in [] |
| 03:01.47 | iShirik | which is why it's illegal |
| 03:02.15 | jleclanche | looks completely fine to me |
| 03:02.28 | jleclanche | god damn i love keepass |
| 03:04.17 | iShirik | "The hyphen character shall be treated as itself if it occurs first (after an initial '^', if any) or last in the list, or as an ending range point in a range expression." |
| 03:04.55 | iShirik | that character is not in any of those positions |
| 03:05.00 | iShirik | therefore it defines a range expression |
| 03:06.40 | iShirik | so unless your intent was to get all characters between + and _ |
| 03:06.42 | iShirik | which seems unlikely |
| 03:07.36 | airtonix | oh ok |
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| 03:29.56 | pompy | http://store.steampowered.com/app/211420/ $6 |
| 03:30.15 | Mr_Rabies | worth 10x that |
| 03:30.24 | Mr_Rabies | one of a few games that are |
| 03:30.51 | Mr_Rabies | i bought it twice and bought a $50 artbook and a strategy guide for item locations and also more art |
| 03:31.03 | Mr_Rabies | strategy guide was like $20 hardcover or something, though |
| 03:33.20 | jleclanche | haha |
| 03:33.21 | jleclanche | https://mediacru.sh/G-g51UBKixhX |
| 03:34.10 | airtonix | Mr_Rabies: how can it be worth anything when it doesn't run on linux? |
| 03:39.40 | xyphoid | for you does steam say autumn sale at the top |
| 03:39.52 | xyphoid | i finally clicked why it had upside down stuff at the bottom |
| 03:47.57 | Neffi | ~lart Semlar |
| 03:47.57 | purl | pries Semlar's back open with a screwdriver and flashes a new bootldr to Semlar |
| 03:51.28 | Neffi | take that |
| 03:57.31 | Mr_Rabies | >linux |
| 03:57.37 | Mr_Rabies | >gaming |
| 03:57.42 | Mr_Rabies | pick one |
| 04:01.45 | jleclanche | Mr_Rabies: kinda like "apple" and "market share"? |
| 04:01.59 | jleclanche | or "online movie rental" and "popular"? |
| 04:02.04 | jleclanche | or, wait, wait, I got this |
| 04:02.08 | jleclanche | "computer" and "fast" |
| 04:03.14 | Neffi | oooh i got this |
| 04:03.24 | Neffi | "C++" and "simple" |
| 04:03.30 | iShirik | fffuuuuu |
| 04:03.35 | Neffi | hahaha |
| 04:03.40 | kd3 | heh |
| 04:04.17 | iShirik | you know what's really sad |
| 04:04.27 | jleclanche | kittens, dying |
| 04:04.28 | iShirik | C++ would be a lot simpler if nobody had used it until 20 years later |
| 04:04.29 | Neffi | a lot of things |
| 04:04.30 | jleclanche | from hunger |
| 04:04.42 | Neffi | It likely would |
| 04:04.51 | Neffi | That can be said of a lot of things |
| 04:04.54 | iShirik | its problem is people know way too many bad things |
| 04:05.13 | airtonix | see the piriorities of shirk: kittens dying... noooope it's something vague about c++ |
| 04:05.22 | iShirik | kittens suck |
| 04:05.28 | iShirik | puppies are better |
| 04:05.33 | airtonix | but iphones are powered by kittens |
| 04:05.40 | kd3 | don't say that too loudly on reddit |
| 04:05.42 | Neffi | iShirik: you're an OP, right? |
| 04:05.56 | iShirik | of what? |
| 04:05.59 | iShirik | this channel? |
| 04:05.59 | Neffi | iShirik: Can you ban iShirik, he said kittens sucks |
| 04:06.10 | iShirik | I'm pretty sure if I ban myself I can still talk |
| 04:06.10 | airtonix | bans Neffi |
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| 04:06.23 | airtonix | lets test that theory... FOR SCIENCE! |
| 04:06.24 | Neffi | =( |
| 04:06.26 | iShirik | hi |
| 04:06.45 | airtonix | did anyone here something? |
| 04:06.47 | iShirik | I think +o has an implicit +z |
| 04:06.47 | airtonix | hear* |
| 04:06.55 | iShirik | nice try airtonix |
| 04:07.04 | airtonix | nope still can't hear anything |
| 04:07.04 | iShirik | Freenode actually sends an error when you try to talk while banned |
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| 04:12.16 | Neffi | where's the rum? |
| 04:12.52 | iShirik | rum? |
| 04:13.31 | Neffi | aye |
| 04:15.56 | iShirik | TIL I have a $3000 deductible in the event of an earthquake on my renter's insurance |
| 04:16.11 | iShirik | which is basically the total sum of anything I actually care about |
| 04:17.59 | airtonix | Vietnamese Government will now issue fines of 100 million dong |
| 04:18.06 | airtonix | that's a lot of dong |
| 04:18.22 | airtonix | summons the dong |
| 04:19.04 | airtonix | This new law follows a decree by the government that requires blogs and news websites to pay for a license in order to operate |
| 04:19.09 | Neffi | keep it in your pants, airtonix |
| 04:19.30 | iShirik | raise your dongers? |
| 04:26.10 | iShirik | jleclanche: Why can't I get SSL to work :( |
| 04:26.17 | iShirik | not that I really care |
| 04:26.28 | jleclanche | iShirik: i dont know, thats why i said i should set up ssl on my domain name |
| 04:27.13 | iShirik | I do have dnssec though |
| 04:27.19 | iShirik | so I can be sure I'm actually connecting to MY core! |
| 04:27.26 | iShirik | I doubt quassel validates dnssec entries though lol |
| 04:27.33 | kd3 | http://quassel-irc.org/faq/cert |
| 04:27.40 | kd3 | ? |
| 04:28.17 | iShirik | oh you know what |
| 04:28.22 | iShirik | I bet I created the damn cert on my root account |
| 04:28.30 | iShirik | and so it can't be opened |
| 04:28.32 | kd3 | oops |
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| 04:30.00 | iShirik | random legal question to all you non-lawyers |
| 04:30.30 | Neffi | you should flee |
| 04:30.34 | iShirik | MISRA publishes a list of rules that you need to follow for your code to be "compliant" that a lot of safety-criticali organizations use. Obviously, you have to pay for it. |
| 04:30.51 | iShirik | I'm working on a module in clang that will automatically detect violations of those rules |
| 04:31.02 | iShirik | Is it a copyright violation to publish that module? |
| 04:31.25 | kd3 | is it going to leave your company? |
| 04:31.31 | Neffi | As a non-lawyer, I would confidentaly say, "no. absoltely not" |
| 04:31.50 | iShirik | yes I'm saying "if I were to publicly release this as open source, i.e., commit it to clang's mainline" |
| 04:31.59 | Neffi | It's your code. Their rules cannot be copyright, the only thing they can copyright is the document that OUTLINE their rules |
| 04:32.22 | iShirik | I mean there do exist other (closed-source and very expensive) tools that do this |
| 04:32.27 | Neffi | EG, the GPL is copyright, but its terms are not, and you can write a clone of the GPL in your own words |
| 04:32.29 | iShirik | I just don't know if they're paying a royalty to MISRA for doing this |
| 04:33.34 | kd3 | eh, I'd ask your company's legal department, even if you're writing this on your own time. they'd have a better answer than any of us |
| 04:34.05 | iShirik | oh totally :P |
| 04:34.10 | iShirik | I was just curious of opinion mostly |
| 04:34.14 | iShirik | I'm not even close to being done anyway |
| 04:34.31 | iShirik | some of the checkers are trivial, but some of them hurt my head |
| 04:34.40 | kd3 | personally, I'd say go for it. you can't copyright concepts, just discrete implementations |
| 04:35.00 | Neffi | exactlyu |
| 04:35.05 | iShirik | I mean, my dad's a lawyer in IP |
| 04:35.11 | Neffi | Think of it like this: it's the wording that copyright, not the idea |
| 04:35.11 | iShirik | he's really the one I should be asking first, lol |
| 04:35.31 | kd3 | ...was going to say "and you're asking us first, why?" |
| 04:35.36 | iShirik | he's asleep :P |
| 04:36.43 | Neffi | well my friends a lawyer, but i promosed never to call him when im drunk, and im a man of my word |
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| 04:46.25 | kd3 | well, f20 change deadline was tuesday and there's still 19 open blockers and another 8 proposed blockers |
| 04:46.46 | kd3 | guess the streak of not-on-time releases continues... |
| 04:46.47 | iShirik | apparently I lied |
| 04:46.50 | iShirik | he was watching football |
| 04:47.08 | iShirik | he basically said the same thing you guys did though; you copyright the content not the idea |
| 04:47.17 | iShirik | so unless I actually write the text of the rule in the software, it's fine |
| 05:01.13 | fewyn | man i miss Chuck |
| 05:01.18 | fewyn | yay for netflix tho |
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| 05:16.24 | airtonix | iShirik: ![github]?-\d how to regex so it matches all string-number but not ones with github? |
| 05:16.47 | airtonix | i seem to remember ? being something to do with looking backwards? |
| 05:17.02 | iShirik | yeah you need to do a negative lookbehind |
| 05:17.58 | iShirik | (?<!github)\-\d |
| 05:18.51 | iShirik | performance warning, though: the way this is actually going to work is it's going to first find the -, then check for github, then check for the digit |
| 05:18.59 | iShirik | which could be inefficient if there's a lot of - that aren't followed by digits |
| 05:19.47 | iShirik | I guess you could probably put that in a group though to solve that |
| 05:19.56 | iShirik | (?<!github)(?:-\d) |
| 05:19.59 | iShirik | I think that fixes it |
| 05:20.18 | Fisker- | hey iShirik |
| 05:20.20 | Fisker- | do you remember? |
| 05:20.22 | iShirik | hey Fisker- |
| 05:20.25 | iShirik | I remember everything |
| 05:21.06 | Thunder_Child | Lies |
| 05:21.55 | iShirik | I remember everything I deem worth remembering |
| 05:26.06 | Fisker- | Irrelevant |
| 05:27.31 | iShirik | everything not related to elephants is irrelephant |
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| 05:40.54 | Neffi | wait, did you just |
| 05:41.20 | iShirik | ? |
| 05:42.22 | Neffi | iirelephant |
| 05:43.34 | Iriel | That might be funnier if you say "not related to pachyderms" |
| 05:45.08 | Neffi | I dont understand |
| 05:45.20 | Neffi | Because phylogenetics has rendered that term meaningless |
| 05:46.41 | Iriel | which term? |
| 05:47.05 | Neffi | `pachyderm` |
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| 05:48.15 | kd3 | only from a strict scientific sensee |
| 05:48.19 | kd3 | s/see/se/ |
| 05:48.52 | Neffi | what other sense is there to that word? |
| 05:49.05 | Iriel | The point is to find a word that means approximately "elephant" so as not to screw up the joke by putting elephant before irrelephant |
| 05:49.09 | Neffi | also, did I ask you, *monkey*? |
| 05:49.30 | Neffi | ;) |
| 05:50.24 | Neffi | "Proboscid"? I dont know fi that's correct |
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| 05:50.35 | Neffi | I'm not a biologist, I just pretend to be when it can win me an argument |
| 05:51.34 | Iriel | I dont see you winning anything? |
| 05:51.50 | Neffi | Doesnt stop me from trying |
| 05:52.01 | Iriel | fair enough |
| 05:53.13 | jleclanche | Iriel: did you say the Giving Thanks post? |
| 05:53.23 | jleclanche | man I wanted to weep right there. |
| 05:53.49 | Iriel | I hadn't looked since they were off today. |
| 05:54.13 | jleclanche | https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/transmission/13408-Giving-Thanks |
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| 06:33.34 | Primer | Iriel: I got that box up. Currently just running it off a mint 15 live cd and the server in a ram fs |
| 06:33.47 | Iriel | Does it seem to work? |
| 06:34.02 | Primer | So I only have 4g of mem allocated to java, but it's only using 1.4g so far. But...no one other than my kids have played on it. |
| 06:34.17 | Primer | Yes. Try connecting to it. The hostname is mcdownloads.com |
| 06:34.22 | Primer | but it's 1.6.4 |
| 06:35.07 | Primer | It's a copy of the server that my daughter and her friends did a bunch of stuff on. There are a bunch of worlds. |
| 06:35.20 | Primer | Actually |
| 06:35.24 | Primer | the IP address changed |
| 06:36.02 | Primer | 173.55.252.122 |
| 06:36.59 | Primer | ok, updated the DNS |
| 06:37.34 | Iriel | seems to work ok |
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| 06:38.59 | Primer | sigh...have to move mods around |
| 07:02.27 | Primer | Seems a bunch of realms are offline |
| 07:02.59 | fewyn | yeah |
| 07:03.02 | fewyn | they just all went down |
| 07:03.10 | fewyn | it's kind of annoying when you're multiboxing |
| 07:03.18 | fewyn | and you're not sure if it's your internet :( |
| 07:06.09 | Primer | now my kids are trying to pick out the name of the minecraft server |
| 07:06.24 | Primer | My daughter wanted llamacraft.com, but apparently that's taken |
| 07:07.44 | fewyn | doublerainbowunicornllamacraft.com |
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| 07:13.42 | fewyn | oh hey i'm not getting spammy bnet invite requests |
| 07:13.55 | fewyn | i think i know where they are getting the battle tags tho |
| 07:13.57 | fewyn | probably oqueue |
| 07:14.19 | Primer | Sucks to have to use oqueue still |
| 07:14.36 | Primer | Realm was connected to 2 others...all it did was balance alliance vs. horde |
| 07:14.38 | fewyn | so far i've only used it to find a nalak group |
| 07:14.55 | Primer | I have to use it for Ordos and Celestials |
| 07:14.57 | fewyn | for my legendary quest on my monk |
| 07:15.02 | Primer | Otherwise those don't get done |
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| 07:33.13 | Maldivia | morning all -- and to the Americans, hope you had a nice Thanksgiving, and please take it easy with the credit-cards today :) |
| 07:33.26 | Kaylin | pfft |
| 07:33.35 | Kaylin | you're acting like nobody comes down from Canada |
| 07:33.44 | Kaylin | it's already a way better deal with taxes |
| 07:33.48 | Kaylin | and now they have discounts? |
| 07:34.12 | Kaylin | plus their thanksgiving doesn't fall on the same day |
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| 07:36.26 | Fisker- | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:37.06 | pompy | Maldivia: already blew $180 >< |
| 07:38.08 | Maldivia | Fisker-: football has finished = thanksgiving over :) |
| 07:39.15 | bluspacecow | Maldivia! |
| 07:39.20 | bluspacecow | hi2u! |
| 07:39.22 | bluspacecow | ;# |
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| 07:39.27 | bluspacecow | :3 |
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| 07:40.41 | Maldivia | :) |
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| 09:32.44 | karl_w_w | guess what google, it doesn't matter how many fucking times you ask me, I'm never going to want to post to youtube with my real name |
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| 09:42.39 | harl | wuff! |
| 09:43.44 | Grivvel | karl_w_w: Yeah, but eventually you might misclick. It only takes once. |
| 09:47.45 | Mr_Rabies | you actually have about an hour or so to reverse it if it happens |
| 09:47.47 | Mr_Rabies | ! |
| 09:48.18 | Mr_Rabies | i did it once because i associated my account with a G+ page instead of a name, but it broke youtube on my xbox and ps3 and probably phone and other stuff |
| 09:48.32 | Mr_Rabies | instead i just decided i barely comment anyway so i won't bother |
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| 10:00.05 | Silvanas | hi :D |
| 10:01.05 | Silvanas | a few days back i hard addons had a private table that is passed to the file load? does anyone know how to acces it as i cant find the documentation about it anywhere :D |
| 10:01.06 | zenzio | ohai |
| 10:02.02 | zenzio | do you want to get some data that is in that table, or do you just want a table that other code can't see? |
| 10:02.52 | Silvanas | well i thoguh i mgiht be able to use the table to share object between files, right now i do that by adding them to the global namespace |
| 10:05.01 | zenzio | I'm not certain, but I believe "private" only works in one single file. Could be that Blizzard has pulled some nice trick and made it somehow else private |
| 10:05.14 | zenzio | not sure if any of the people who know more about this than me are awake at this time |
| 10:05.49 | nevcairiel | just do "local name, tbl = ..." on the top of your file |
| 10:05.57 | nevcairiel | outside any function |
| 10:06.03 | nevcairiel | name will be the addons name, and tbl the table |
| 10:06.21 | Silvanas | ah oke so it gets stored in ..., i thoguh there might have a special variable name for it :D |
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| 10:49.13 | Stanzilla | anyone with chrome beta here? |
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| 13:14.22 | zenzio | out-of-context quotes, how I love you... "I never understood how you were supposed to do it. It was kind of squirted into the nose, but then it ran everywhere! And I can't stand the taste!" |
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| 14:08.46 | Layke_ | Is there a generic WOW channel for general discussion? I've checked 3 different servers. This is pretty much the largest channel I have found but it's for dev. :) |
| 14:09.03 | Layke_ | I'm looking for someone to send me a scroll of resurection to EU battlenet account. |
| 14:09.34 | zenzio | I'm sure someone here can help with that |
| 14:11.03 | Layke_ | Okay. Well if someone here can you get a nice shiny spectral mount if you can send a scroll. :) I'll have to provide you with my character name and the server I think. |
| 14:12.44 | Layke_ | Let me know if you can. [EU] Azjol-Nerub and character name Elemento |
| 14:15.10 | foxlit | Layke_: "Scroll invitations are validated in hourly batches, so your friend should receive your invitation shortly." |
| 14:16.02 | Fisker | hey foxlit |
| 14:16.10 | Layke_ | foxlit, Cheers :) That's better than I heard. I read it takes weeks on some reddit thread. (which didn't make sense to me). |
| 14:16.26 | Layke_ | I'm only 14% through downloading the game anyway. Apparently says I can start playing it though. |
| 14:16.30 | Fisker | longest I saw it taking was like half a day when it was launched |
| 14:16.52 | Fisker | still haven't validated my raf reward though foxlit |
| 14:16.58 | Fisker | Guess it'll take longer than what the sale is on for |
| 14:16.58 | Fisker | D: |
| 14:17.06 | zenzio | Layke_: "can" is about the right word. "Should" is not; it'd be loading stuff all the time in the game I think |
| 14:17.19 | Fisker | I wonder if they made it this long because of all the RAF gametime scams |
| 14:17.25 | Layke_ | Perhaps yeah :) I've got 5 accounts attached to the bnet. So hopefully it makes it obvious to me whcih I need to activate. |
| 14:17.33 | Layke_ | What were the scams? |
| 14:25.49 | Layke_ | received zenzio |
| 14:26.27 | zenzio | if you got one from foxlit, take his instead; I think he plays more than I do |
| 14:27.21 | foxlit | Take whichever, really -- as a druid, flying mounts are a bit meh. |
| 14:27.51 | Layke_ | Ah totally mixed up the names... sorry foxlit. I did mean to select yours. |
| 14:27.58 | Layke_ | But yeah, I did select zenzios. |
| 14:28.00 | zenzio | :) |
| 14:28.05 | zenzio | hehe |
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| 14:42.33 | nevcairiel | anyone still have a contact in the UI team left? |
| 14:47.46 | Amarande | Layke_, wowhead's channel (#wowhead) is here on freenode too, it tends to be more of a general wow (and sometimes other games) channel |
| 14:48.17 | foxlit | points in the general direction of Cairenn. |
| 14:48.22 | jleclanche | https://www.gandi.net/news/en/2013-11-27/1166-ipv6-only_servers |
| 14:48.23 | jleclanche | ooh. |
| 14:49.15 | Amarande | now if only the net in general would migrate more towards ipv6 |
| 14:49.44 | nevcairiel | wonder how many people they really find to give up v4 |
| 14:49.49 | Amarande | actually, I can have ipv6 access here if I want to turn it on, but I lose some security if I do so so I don't have it enabled atm :S |
| 14:50.06 | jleclanche | nevcairiel: as they said, with a lower price its likely to interest geeks with ipv6 enabled that just want a backup server |
| 14:50.17 | Amarande | (my D-Link router has *really* robust IPv6 network support, but no firewalling for it :|) |
| 14:50.17 | jleclanche | Amarande: lose some security? wtf? |
| 14:50.24 | jleclanche | ah |
| 14:50.36 | jleclanche | theres always local firewalls |
| 14:51.15 | jleclanche | besides, looking at my logs, there hasnt been a single attack on v6 over the past 3 months |
| 14:51.40 | jleclanche | i dont think a v6 firewall is something you need quite yet, unless you're high profile |
| 14:52.01 | Ressy | I'd love to migrate to ipv6. Unfortunately my ISP's supplier runs the CMTS, and refuses to start handing out ipv6 addresses. |
| 14:52.26 | Amarande | Ressy, they don't even have a tunnel? |
| 14:52.33 | jleclanche | Ressy: change ISPs! |
| 14:52.36 | Amarande | here on Charter the main networking itself is still ipv4, but they have a 6RD |
| 14:52.38 | jleclanche | which country you in? |
| 14:52.40 | Ressy | Canada |
| 14:52.45 | jleclanche | ah |
| 14:52.45 | Ressy | My only option is to go DSL. |
| 14:52.50 | jleclanche | you're fucked. |
| 14:53.04 | Ressy | So I'm staying with my nice ISP. They're awesome people. |
| 14:53.43 | Ressy | I'm on a first name basis with the CEO, CTO, and several of the Directors. :) |
| 14:54.10 | nevcairiel | then get the CTO to hand out ipv6? |
| 14:54.28 | jleclanche | indeed |
| 14:54.40 | nevcairiel | i could switch ISP as well for v6, but i hope they'll finally get it done in 2014, and i'm in no hurry yet |
| 14:54.45 | Ressy | Rogers doesn't do ipv6, so unless I wanna tunnel (I don't), my only option is go dsl with my isp.. which I don't wanna. |
| 14:54.59 | nevcairiel | dsl > cable |
| 14:55.14 | Ressy | Unfortunately, the lines in my area suck. |
| 14:55.22 | jleclanche | Ressy: rogers is your isp? |
| 14:55.28 | Ressy | no. Teksavvy is. |
| 14:55.39 | jleclanche | your isp rents the line? |
| 14:56.12 | Ressy | We have a wholesale system in Canada. They 'rent' the last mile, then all Teksavvy data is offloaded at the aggregated POI, and shunted onto Teksavvy lines. |
| 14:56.35 | Ressy | goes from agg POI, to peering location downtown toronto, and out from there. |
| 14:56.43 | nevcairiel | renting the last mile happens in many countries |
| 14:56.56 | jleclanche | and v6 isnt usually an issue with it |
| 14:57.14 | Ressy | Unfortunately Rogers hasn't gotten off their butts to implement ipv6 yet. |
| 14:57.16 | jleclanche | neither BT nor TT do ipv6 here, but A&A does and they rent from both of those |
| 14:57.32 | jleclanche | admittedly they could support v6 just internally but i doubt it |
| 14:57.35 | Ressy | and its their CMTS that hands out IP addresses for their customers, and 3rd party |
| 14:57.45 | nevcairiel | sounds like they rent more then just the cable |
| 14:58.07 | jleclanche | yeah definitely |
| 14:58.15 | jleclanche | A&A here does ip allocation themselves |
| 14:58.20 | jleclanche | which is awesome |
| 14:58.22 | Ressy | All info goes to the agg POI, its separated rogers via tpia (third party internet), then further separated by different supplier. |
| 14:58.28 | Ressy | jleclanche: Ugh.. TPIA wants to do that. |
| 14:58.35 | jleclanche | i can ping one of their staff on irc and ask for a block |
| 14:58.37 | Ressy | Rogers keeps telling CRTC that its not possible. |
| 14:58.50 | Ressy | and CRTC buys it hook line & sinker |
| 14:59.15 | Ressy | maybe it'll change with next year's review of the wholesale system. |
| 14:59.49 | Ressy | blech. Back to my 10 page (so far) submission to the crtc. due in 10 hours. :( |
| 15:09.31 | jleclanche | http://xkcd.com/1296/ I wasnt the only one reading this bottom to top was i? |
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| 15:35.57 | Maldivia | nope |
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| 16:13.55 | VIad1 | http://xkcd.com/1286/ |
| 16:25.55 | iShirik | http://imgur.com/U8Rxmbr |
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| 16:43.24 | Arrowmaster | kd3: any recommendations on what to get from http://www.rightstuf.com/rssite/main/holiday/ |
| 16:45.25 | Arrowmaster | oh and GoT seasons 1 & 2 bluray/dvd combo packs were just lightning deals on amazon, $19.99 each and almost instantly sold out |
| 16:50.34 | VIad1 | http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=198044080 |
| 17:04.00 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
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| 17:06.09 | Amarande | how few do they have to *have* for stuff to sell out that quick |
| 17:06.23 | Amarande | like, are there that many people who spend black friday glued to amazon.com waiting for every deal to come by? :) |
| 17:06.52 | Amarande | it's not like blizzcon tickets where everyone KNOWS when it's going to go on sale :) |
| 17:09.33 | Arrowmaster | you can lookup the deals for the rest of the day |
| 17:10.13 | Arrowmaster | they tell you the exact item for most of them and the time, just not the price |
| 17:10.28 | Amarande | ah, like newegg shell shockers |
| 17:10.34 | Amarande | though the shell shockers seem to not be selling out very much lately |
| 17:11.05 | Arrowmaster | and i had to be on the waitlist at position 500+ for GoT S2 |
| 17:11.45 | Xandr | Hm, speaking of amazon deals. Would anyone buy rocksmith 2014 on amazon.com for me? it's $7.50 atm but you can't really buy it from outside the us without a us credit card which I - as a non-american - don't have :) |
| 17:11.56 | Xandr | I'll pay you $10 via paypal for it |
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| 17:13.26 | Arrowmaster | i just started up a game thats such a ram hog i had to close my browser |
| 17:13.33 | Xandr | eh, not rocksmith 2014, the old version… |
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| 17:14.14 | Arrowmaster | from everything i hear you want the new one and not the old |
| 17:14.28 | Arrowmaster | and the old might not come with the cable |
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| 18:25.34 | Fisker | hey Ackis |
| 18:25.35 | Fisker | you hate me |
| 18:25.37 | Fisker | why? |
| 18:27.00 | Sintacks | Fisker, y u sad cuz Ackis hates you |
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| 19:40.30 | foxlit | http://media.mmo-champion.com/images/news/2013/november/newStore01.jpg << this is still a phenomenally bad idea. |
| 19:42.51 | mikma | what the... |
| 19:43.07 | Ressy | think someone will attempt to copy it? |
| 19:43.30 | iShirik | hm |
| 19:43.34 | iShirik | it would be really hard |
| 19:44.06 | foxlit | It's not exact copying of that screen that I'm concerned about. |
| 19:44.28 | foxlit | There are two real issues: you now have to trust a light blue message displayed in-game to tell you what blizzard would and would not do |
| 19:45.03 | foxlit | So don't copy the thing, but time something with a patch, and display "Well, from now on, Blizzard will only ask you for your password if the screen turns entirely pink!" |
| 19:45.09 | Kesava | "only authentic messages will [do whatever]" |
| 19:45.10 | Kesava | idd |
| 19:45.46 | mikma | why would you want blue screen effect with white outlines anyway |
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| 19:46.33 | foxlit | mikma: in-game store can prompt you to enter your password to confirm a purchase. |
| 19:47.32 | Amarande | mikma: not to mention Blizzard is basically FORCED to put a confirmation box up every time you make a purchase |
| 19:47.57 | Amarande | Especially Blizzard, since unlike other ingame stores that use points, they charge USD directly for their in-game stuff still :) |
| 19:48.23 | foxlit | The second issue: it's staking everything on the taint system working correctly. |
| 19:48.30 | Amarande | at least, unless they want to share their profits on the IGS with Amazon :( |
| 19:51.49 | Amarande | you know, actually, I wonder if that's why there *are* so many purchase confirmations throughout the web :| not really to protect you the buyer, but because forcing people to click an 'are you sure' box is probably the simplest way to keep amazon out of your profits in many scenarios |
| 19:55.29 | Ressy | foxlit: is it? |
| 19:56.41 | Amarande | hm, how many more years till that cursed one click patent expires anyway? |
| 19:57.11 | Ressy | password means its no longer 1 click. ;) |
| 19:57.34 | Cairenn | nevcairiel: what's up? |
| 19:58.06 | Ressy | There's also strings in for authenticator request.. So it'll probably ask for that as well. |
| 19:58.26 | nevcairiel | Cairenn: with what? :) |
| 19:59.11 | Cairenn | (9:43:56 AM) nevcairiel: anyone still have a contact in the UI team left? |
| 19:59.15 | nevcairiel | oh |
| 20:00.03 | iShirik | so here's the real question |
| 20:00.18 | nevcairiel | we researched a common taint problem, with suggested solutions even, hoping to forward to someone at Blizzard that cares enough to fix it; all the details are here: http://forums.wowace.com/showthread.php?t=20880 |
| 20:00.24 | iShirik | do you think I could make it appear that way? |
| 20:00.28 | iShirik | I bet I could |
| 20:00.33 | iShirik | at least well enough to steal some passwords |
| 20:00.56 | Cairenn | nevcairiel: *nod* I'll forward it along. |
| 20:01.38 | Amarande | dammit Shirik, were you the one who coded purrmetheus too, or was that kd3 :) |
| 20:01.49 | iShirik | I don't know what that is |
| 20:01.53 | iShirik | was it any good? I'll take credit for it |
| 20:01.57 | iShirik | if it was bad it was kd3 |
| 20:02.00 | nevcairiel | Cairenn: thanks |
| 20:02.05 | Cairenn | np :) |
| 20:02.20 | Amarande | Purrmetheus was that addon from a few weeks ago where one of you guys tried to actually make a "do your rotation in one button" addon as a concept :) |
| 20:02.40 | Amarande | just seems like there's been a rise in EvilAddon ideas from #wowuidev lately LOL |
| 20:02.44 | iShirik | oh |
| 20:02.53 | iShirik | all the exploits I've found have only been sent to Blizzard people |
| 20:02.57 | iShirik | I would never release something like that |
| 20:03.24 | Amarande | apparently Cairenn and Torhal were told to take it down soon after it was released, anyway, and something was hotfixed to break it, though I forget just what |
| 20:04.43 | iShirik | I really should have written a paper on one of my exploits, but I never got around to it |
| 20:05.52 | Amarande | I think that might have been what that whole new secure random thing was all about, but I'm not sure |
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| 20:06.30 | foxlit | nevcairiel: while you're on the topic of InterfaceOptionsFrame, you should probably also suggest a fix for _OpenToCategory. |
| 20:06.49 | nevcairiel | the taint was more annoying |
| 20:07.05 | foxlit | I think they broke OTC in a misguided effort to mitigate the taint issue. |
| 20:07.10 | nevcairiel | also, taintlog 11 helped a lot to track its origin |
| 20:07.34 | Amarande | I'm beginning to think that I might actually just stop using addons next time I play wow |
| 20:07.45 | Amarande | except for a few gotta haves like auctioneer, skillet, and big wigs |
| 20:07.59 | iShirik | and a few other gotta haves |
| 20:08.02 | iShirik | like grid |
| 20:08.18 | foxlit | the default raid frames are pretty workable. |
| 20:08.20 | iShirik | and bagnon |
| 20:08.21 | Amarande | iShirik, and next thing we're back to forty addons again |
| 20:08.21 | Amarande | heh |
| 20:08.23 | iShirik | and |
| 20:08.25 | iShirik | yup :) |
| 20:08.58 | Amarande | but yeah, I'm finding I have less and less patience for the amount of maintenance that goes into a hot-rodded UI |
| 20:09.03 | iShirik | I actually am legitimately running with ONLY auctioneer right now |
| 20:09.09 | iShirik | but that's also because I'm not actually DOING anything |
| 20:09.29 | Amarande | sadly it's been so long since I last really used the blizz ui that I'm not sure how well I'd handle it now |
| 20:09.57 | Amarande | in say LOTRO I find it a lot easier to deal without addons, because I never got used to using addons there to begin with |
| 20:10.12 | iShirik | so that blue effect thing |
| 20:10.14 | iShirik | is that only on PTR or is that live? |
| 20:10.18 | Amarande | and SW:TOR's base UI has a lot of in-built customisation capability anyhow |
| 20:10.30 | nevcairiel | not live yet |
| 20:11.10 | iShirik | I'm pretty sure I just thought of a way to duplicate the effect |
| 20:11.19 | iShirik | now to go try it out |
| 20:12.05 | nevcairiel | how would you duplicate it with just Lua? You can make it blue, but outlining the 3d world in white is pretty hard |
| 20:13.01 | iShirik | gonna try it first |
| 20:13.30 | Amarande | rats, no RAM or graphics cards in Amazon's Black Friday computer components lineup. :( |
| 20:14.09 | kd3 | Arrowmaster: re right stuf, level e was hilarious if you're in to cerebral comedy, noein is sci-fi and was pretty good, time of eve is sci-fi/philosophical (and I'm about to buy it now that it's on sale), and toradora is one of jc staff's better rom-coms in years |
| 20:14.15 | Amarande | nevcairiel: and for that matter what would the Blizzard reaction be to break something like that? |
| 20:14.31 | Amarande | mass-reverberating cuts to the ability to alter colours in addons, I would suppose? |
| 20:15.35 | Amarande | I suppose you could simply forbid addons to use a particular colour, but I'm not sure just how far out you'd have to go from the "designated Blizzard secure colour" in terms of restricted range |
| 20:16.00 | Amarande | depending on the ability of a given monitor to crisply distinguish similar colours |
| 20:16.10 | Arrowmaster | kd3: i was looking at the deathnote manga box, and i want to order all the volumes of berserk that i only have used copies of at some point |
| 20:17.04 | iShirik | what WoW should do is create a secure combination |
| 20:17.10 | iShirik | much like how Windows requires ctrl+alt+del to log in |
| 20:17.19 | iShirik | the reason they require that is because no application can process that key combination |
| 20:17.31 | iShirik | this confirms that you're actually commuincating with the OS |
| 20:17.54 | kd3 | oh, did wow's "secure authentication prompt" finally get screenshots taken of it? |
| 20:18.17 | iShirik | yes |
| 20:18.25 | kd3 | wonders how trivial it is to spoof |
| 20:18.33 | iShirik | I'm pretty sure I've already found a way to break through it, but I want to try first |
| 20:18.34 | kd3 | oh, quite |
| 20:18.47 | Arrowmaster | damnit i fucked up my math on this elliptical orbit in KSP for deploying satellites, gota restart from the launch |
| 20:19.00 | iShirik | how do you like KSP? |
| 20:19.06 | iShirik | I haven't gotten around to trying it |
| 20:19.10 | iShirik | but a coworker is trying to get me to |
| 20:19.13 | kd3 | it's great. I've lost nights to it |
| 20:19.14 | Arrowmaster | love it but play it in spells |
| 20:20.08 | Arrowmaster | trying to put comms satellites in geosync orbit for remotetech2 mod right now |
| 20:20.13 | kd3 | lots of nasa folks are addicted to it too, apparently |
| 20:20.16 | iShirik | I have no idea what that means |
| 20:20.30 | iShirik | weok well the second half |
| 20:20.33 | iShirik | the first half is obvious |
| 20:21.09 | kd3 | ksp's got a decently-large modding scene. up to and including recreating the skycrane used to land curiosity on mars |
| 20:21.13 | Arrowmaster | remotetech mod makes it so your unmanned probes have to have a radio connection back to the launch control for you to be able to actually control them |
| 20:22.18 | Arrowmaster | and its line of sight so you need a comms network to route the signals through |
| 20:26.37 | Dagmar | kd3: Dont' forget all the recreations of the Mars Interplanetary Lawn Darts missions |
| 20:26.45 | kd3 | lmao |
| 20:27.03 | Fisker | nihil Vichy milk |
| 20:27.57 | Dagmar | Tony Snow has nothihng on the NASA rep who stood there and said with a straight face that they were just going to crash the lander into the surface of Mars and observe the composition of the resulting dust cloud |
| 20:29.45 | jnwhiteh | Anyone at/have friends at Dreamhack? |
| 20:31.36 | Ressy | few of the EU MVPs are there. |
| 20:33.56 | jnwhiteh | Gief Strife key =) |
| 20:38.07 | Amarande | Dagmar: well, it's better than dropping the satellite before launch, or whatever it was that happened to that one thing |
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| 20:59.38 | Fisker | why not go yourself jnwhiteh? :3 |
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| 21:41.47 | jleclanche | haha. |
| 21:42.03 | jleclanche | Google Fonts stats has Electrolize way up |
| 21:42.05 | jleclanche | i know whyyy. |
| 21:43.53 | fewyn | ? |
| 21:58.02 | Arrowmaster | kd3: 4 comsats in perfect geosync orbit now |
| 21:58.17 | Arrowmaster | all from one launch |
| 21:58.38 | Arrowmaster | now to return jeb |
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| 22:10.52 | jnwhiteh | Fisker: i couldn't this year, I went last year |
| 22:12.13 | Fisker | :( |
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| 23:13.08 | Arrowmaster | haha http://storify.com/EliLanger/this-man-is-hilariously-live-tweeting-his-flight-n |
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