| 00:00.00 | Cairenn | Same up here |
| 00:00.07 | Cairenn | Next weekend |
| 00:00.12 | Arrowmaster | im already going to be screwed up on sleep as it is from the timezone change and so much going on later than im normally up now |
| 00:00.35 | Arrowmaster | getting up at 5:30am sucks |
| 00:00.50 | kd3 | eh, I live on pacific time anyway most of the week. it's nice not having to wake up at oh-dark-thirty |
| 00:01.21 | Gnarfoz | I live on 24 hours is not enough time all the time |
| 00:02.00 | Arrowmaster | i currently dont have anything scheduled for the 1st but ill have to get up at 5:30am on the 4th |
| 00:02.34 | Arrowmaster | and i took the 5th through the 13th off |
| 00:03.31 | Arrowmaster | oh its 5th through 12th |
| 00:03.46 | Arrowmaster | i get one day off between coming home and going back to work |
| 00:03.54 | Gnarfoz | 1st is a public holiday for me and I took the monday and tuesday before the flight off, too, so I've got a nice 5 days off before I even go anywhere. |
| 00:04.00 | Arrowmaster | i would be fucked otherwise |
| 00:04.19 | Cairenn | Arrowmaster: smart |
| 00:04.34 | Gnarfoz | Arrowsmarter |
| 00:04.44 | Cairenn | I usually do that too |
| 00:04.46 | Arrowmaster | im not about to get home at 11pm then get up for work at 5:30am the next day |
| 00:04.59 | Gnarfoz | but that sounds AWESOME |
| 00:05.12 | Arrowmaster | not when i have to drive 90 miles to get to work |
| 00:05.17 | Gnarfoz | even more so |
| 00:05.25 | Gnarfoz | heh |
| 00:05.38 | Cairenn | Yeah, that could be all kinds of bad |
| 00:06.00 | Gnarfoz | we fly out on thursday, but arrive here on friday, thanks to timezones |
| 00:06.12 | Gnarfoz | leaves us the weekend to readjust |
| 00:07.23 | Gnarfoz | probably going to be ok; but if it weren't for timezones/jet lag we could have 3 more days of US without using up any extra vacation days |
| 00:07.32 | Gnarfoz | 1st world problems |
| 00:09.20 | Arrowmaster | those international flights are roomier than the shit i get stuck on right? |
| 00:09.40 | kd3 | you may get an extra inch or two? |
| 00:09.50 | kd3 | my last international flight was before 9/11 |
| 00:10.02 | Arrowmaster | i wouldnt be able to stand it |
| 00:10.32 | Gnarfoz | you're supposed to sit |
| 00:10.38 | Gnarfoz | runs |
| 00:10.48 | Arrowmaster | it hurts when your knees are above your hips |
| 00:10.57 | Arrowmaster | which is what all airline seats do to me |
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| 00:12.02 | Gnarfoz | 747-8i, I hope it's going to be bearable |
| 00:12.35 | Arrowmaster | i used to get stuck on 737 and i hate those |
| 00:13.01 | Arrowmaster | 747 is big |
| 00:14.41 | Dagmar | You ride a puddle jumper a few times and then say that |
| 00:16.03 | Arrowmaster | i pick the side with only 1 seat on those |
| 00:18.49 | Dagmar | You've yet to have the true puddle-jumper experience if there's actually three seats to a row |
| 00:21.01 | Arrowmaster | i think ive been on one with only 2 per row |
| 00:26.36 | Dagmar | Seeing all these other people's AC:NL houses makes me think I've overlooked the "Blowjobs for Nook" minigame or something. |
| 00:29.17 | Arrowmaster | ? |
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| 00:30.02 | Neffi | <3 pumpkin ale |
| 00:30.18 | Dagmar | I played the last one quite a bit. The new one has this feature where when you street pass people, it puts their house in a Happy Homes gallery of sorts. |
| 00:30.46 | Dagmar | _Everyone's_ home so far has had like at least three rooms and a basement or an attic, often both. |
| 00:30.55 | Dagmar | Complete matching furniture sets, etc |
| 00:30.57 | Dagmar | WTF |
| 00:31.32 | Dagmar | I'm waiting for the HHA rep to show up and tell me they're going to have to burn mine down because I'm affecting property values |
| 00:31.42 | kd3 | heh |
| 00:32.21 | Neffi | Gonna go through Learn C The Hard Way to brush up on it a bit. Can anyone recommend any other good sources for learning C and getting into it more seriously? |
| 00:32.33 | Dagmar | Bugtraq. |
| 00:32.34 | kd3 | pick some random project you want to do |
| 00:32.37 | kd3 | do it in c |
| 00:32.42 | Dagmar | Learn from the fail of others. |
| 00:32.58 | Neffi | I really mean educating myself on best practices, common mistakes, things like that |
| 00:33.19 | Dagmar | There's a million ways to do just about anything, and if you land somewhere in the upper half of the better ways, great. |
| 00:33.21 | Neffi | I've got a project or two I'm interested in picking apart, so I have some practice ahead of me |
| 00:33.38 | kd3 | don't dereference a null pointer. you're good once you've got that down |
| 00:33.50 | Dagmar | ...but it's more important to avoid the "land of suck and overflows" than it is to be a perfect coder. |
| 00:33.53 | Neffi | Gonna get into mpv possibly contributing some features/fixes they need. Gonna pick apart dwm and maybe awesomeWM. |
| 00:34.24 | Neffi | I'm not aiming to become a perfect coder overnight. I'm not that naive. |
| 00:34.40 | Semlar | aim low |
| 00:34.43 | Neffi | lol |
| 00:34.51 | Neffi | I aim high, but realistically so |
| 00:35.00 | Dagmar | So... spending 15-20 minutes a day reading about how other people screwed up is probably not a bad idea |
| 00:35.05 | Neffi | I can't help being a perfectionist, but I've learned reasonable limitations |
| 00:35.10 | Dagmar | If nothing else, it'll boost your self-esteem |
| 00:35.15 | Neffi | hah |
| 00:35.37 | Dagmar | "I might suck, but at least I know how long a uint_32 is" |
| 00:35.56 | Dagmar | ...and the perpetual favorite, "Why an octet is not a uint_32 you assholes" |
| 00:36.13 | Dagmar | s/octet/ipaddr/ |
| 00:36.58 | Neffi | Why would an octet be 4 bytes? |
| 00:37.01 | Neffi | Am I missing a joke? |
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| 00:49.56 | Amarande | wait, isn't an ipv4 address a unit_32? |
| 00:49.59 | Amarande | er, uint_32? |
| 00:50.33 | Amarande | actually I think you can usually even use the big incomprehensible number in place of an IP address in most cases |
| 00:50.38 | Amarande | and some other things that aren't "supposed to be" IPs |
| 00:50.57 | Amarande | like if you're gonna do a fake IP address in fiction or something ... make sure it's the FIRST number that's >255 |
| 00:51.46 | Neffi | If I'm gonna do a fake IP address in fiction, it's gonna point to Semlar's machine |
| 00:51.54 | Semlar | why |
| 00:51.59 | Neffi | Why not? |
| 00:52.07 | Neffi | You'll meet a lot of new people |
| 00:52.19 | Neffi | By which I mean you'll probably have to unplug your router |
| 00:53.35 | Neffi | Anyway, isn't there a block of IP addresses that's invalid? |
| 00:53.57 | kd3 | 10.0.0.0/8? |
| 00:54.22 | Semlar | depends on what you mean by invalid |
| 00:54.39 | Semlar | i believe those are internal addresses |
| 00:54.51 | Neffi | Reserved for some special purpose that wouldn't resolve to anything real |
| 00:55.13 | Neffi | Or at least not on the public Internet |
| 00:55.23 | Neffi | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reserved_IP_addresses#Reserved_IPv4_addresses |
| 00:55.45 | Neffi | eg shit like: |
| 00:55.46 | Neffi | "for use solely in documentation and example source code and should not be used publicly." |
| 00:58.24 | Neffi | Damn, in IPv6 there are 2^96 addresses reserved for use in documentation |
| 00:58.39 | Neffi | That's more than every IPv4 address |
| 01:12.17 | Torhal | Anyone else here get sucked into Candybox2? |
| 01:12.52 | Neffi | I couldn't get it to load |
| 01:14.37 | Torhal | Try again, they apparently have server load issues. |
| 01:16.33 | Neffi | I don't get it |
| 01:17.06 | Torhal | Neffi: Hmm? |
| 01:17.14 | Torhal | Let the candies get to 30 |
| 01:17.15 | Neffi | What's the point of this? |
| 01:17.19 | Torhal | You'll see. |
| 01:17.25 | Neffi | Are you a madman? |
| 01:17.31 | Neffi | Who saves up 30 candies without eating them? |
| 01:17.35 | Torhal | Neffi: Hahahaha |
| 01:19.05 | Torhal | Neffi: Do you see yet? |
| 01:19.19 | Neffi | I got to the map and I can't figure out what to do now |
| 01:19.33 | Torhal | Neffi: Try clicking buildings. |
| 01:20.04 | Neffi | "I would do anything | \ |
| 01:20.04 | Neffi | | | for candies. |
| 01:20.08 | Neffi | woops |
| 01:20.11 | Neffi | anyway, wtf |
| 01:20.31 | Torhal | Neffi: YOu can click on the stuff on the counters and buy it for candy. |
| 01:20.40 | Neffi | I'm starting to get it |
| 01:20.48 | Neffi | But I'm afraid to spend candy on frivolous things |
| 01:20.57 | Neffi | It seems to be a very important commodity |
| 01:22.08 | Torhal | You have eaten 40 016 candies |
| 01:22.09 | Torhal | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:22.31 | Dagmar | You are also the size of a whale. |
| 01:22.44 | Dagmar | ...but no one wants to talk about the bad side of free candy. |
| 01:22.51 | Torhal | Hah |
| 01:23.10 | Neffi | Torhal: wtf |
| 01:23.13 | Torhal | Neffi: Wait until you have enough to start throwing it on the ground. |
| 01:23.20 | Neffi | I ALREADY DID THAT |
| 01:23.24 | Neffi | Now I feel like an asshole |
| 01:23.44 | Torhal | You threw 2 700 candies on the ground |
| 01:24.38 | TC-Work | that rpg game in an rpg game is meh |
| 01:24.43 | Neffi | "You threw 20 candies on the ground..." |
| 01:26.01 | Neffi | Oh god I love this game |
| 01:26.08 | TC-Work | Should eat them for the healths |
| 01:28.16 | Torhal | TC-Work: Throw candy on the ground to eventually get a chocolate bar. You use chocolate bars to enchant your gloves. |
| 01:28.24 | TC-Work | I didn't need to |
| 01:28.39 | TC-Work | I got one from the dude in the tree |
| 01:28.51 | Torhal | There are two gloves. |
| 01:28.56 | Torhal | Pink and Red. |
| 01:29.04 | Torhal | Health/Fireball. |
| 01:29.22 | TC-Work | They are both done |
| 01:29.27 | TC-Work | and I still have 3 left |
| 01:29.30 | Torhal | Noice. |
| 01:29.41 | Torhal | TC-Work: Did you set it to autosave? |
| 01:29.44 | TC-Work | Si |
| 01:30.02 | Torhal | Ok, because accidentally closing your tab is bad without. |
| 01:30.05 | Torhal | Hehe |
| 01:30.13 | Neffi | How many candies does the candiest person have? |
| 01:30.19 | TC-Work | Sounds like you found that out first hand |
| 01:30.23 | Torhal | Neffi: Put the amount you have. |
| 01:30.28 | Neffi | ..wow |
| 01:31.05 | TC-Work | The tic tac toe one bothered me |
| 01:31.14 | Torhal | Yah, that was kinda bullshit. |
| 01:38.05 | Neffi | What squirrel is this fucking good at tick-tack-toe? |
| 01:38.12 | Torhal | Ahahaha |
| 01:40.02 | Neffi | Are you fucking shitting me |
| 01:40.16 | Neffi | That's not even a fair challenge. How would I have gotten that without being drunk? |
| 01:40.28 | Torhal | Hmm? |
| 01:40.33 | Torhal | TicTacToe? |
| 01:40.38 | Neffi | yeah |
| 01:40.47 | Torhal | Yah, pretty bullshit. |
| 01:40.54 | Torhal | You got it though. |
| 01:40.58 | Torhal | Non-drunk I assume. |
| 01:40.59 | Neffi | I found it out entirely by accident |
| 01:41.04 | Torhal | Heh |
| 01:41.12 | Neffi | I'm about halfway to drunk and my hand slipped while supping my beer |
| 01:41.15 | Torhal | I told my son "Hint: You have to cheat" |
| 01:41.19 | Torhal | Aah |
| 01:43.41 | Dagmar | *Chickens* can be good at tic-tac-toe, man |
| 01:43.51 | Dagmar | Squirrels are smarter by half |
| 01:45.06 | Neffi | "No possible enchantment" |
| 01:45.11 | Neffi | I'm gonna flip shit |
| 01:47.15 | Torhal | Neffi: Dude. I said get gloves first. Or did I? |
| 01:47.18 | Torhal | LD |
| 01:47.19 | Torhal | :D |
| 01:47.48 | Torhal | Oh, I did. |
| 01:48.11 | Torhal | Indirectly. Didn't actually SAY "get gloves first", but I implied it by saying the chocolate bars was to enchant gloves. |
| 01:52.33 | nibordoohe | I was asking about an automatic way to copy text to windows clipboard and people here said that would be an issue with blizzard not liking the automatic exporting of data real time. Now that's got me curious- why is that an issue for blizz? |
| 01:53.10 | nibordoohe | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:53.24 | kd3 | makes it too easy to make bots |
| 01:54.27 | nibordoohe | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:54.33 | kd3 | the best you can do is pop up a text box, highlight the text, and tell users to hit ctrl+c to copy to the clipboard |
| 01:54.38 | Shirik | no |
| 01:54.43 | Shirik | you can't move, you can't do a lot of things |
| 01:54.52 | Shirik | many things are very restricted |
| 01:55.01 | kd3 | the in-game lua environment will not let you programmatically affect combat |
| 01:55.08 | kd3 | no moving, spell casting, targeting, etc |
| 01:55.08 | Shirik | only trusted code is allowed to perform certain actions |
| 01:55.15 | nibordoohe | it's alright kd3 , i've figured out how i will do my original thing, but now i'm just in the realm of being curious :) |
| 01:55.28 | nibordoohe | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:55.47 | Shirik | think of WoW as the kernel |
| 01:56.07 | Shirik | just like your OS doesn't allow programs to write directly to random locations of memory, so does WoW restrict all the addons that are running |
| 01:56.08 | nibordoohe | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:56.49 | nibordoohe | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:57.00 | nibordoohe | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:58.55 | Shirik | They've got it plugged up pretty well now. |
| 01:59.27 | Shirik | I've only found two holes ever, over the years it's been like that, and those were really, really complicated paths that I doubt anyone would ever bother to take |
| 01:59.43 | Neffi | The issue I see with that is a program that constantly copies/pastes |
| 01:59.57 | Neffi | Hop into game, just keep hitting enter, and it chooses the spell for you and insets /cast lines |
| 02:01.05 | Shirik | true story |
| 02:01.12 | Shirik | there was a time, back in the day, where RDX was going to do that |
| 02:01.35 | Shirik | it was going to rearrange the action bar so that button 1 was always what it thought you wanted the most |
| 02:01.39 | Shirik | and 2 would be the second prefered |
| 02:01.40 | Shirik | and so on |
| 02:01.45 | Shirik | so you could just sit there spam 1 all day |
| 02:01.47 | Neffi | I remember that |
| 02:02.17 | Shirik | and then 2.0 took all the fun away |
| 02:02.18 | Shirik | :P |
| 02:03.17 | kd3 | hell, I used an autopotion addon while leveling in stv |
| 02:03.28 | kd3 | way back in 1.8 |
| 02:04.01 | nibordoohe | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:04.05 | nibordoohe | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:04.27 | kd3 | yup |
| 02:04.38 | Neffi | yummy |
| 02:04.47 | Neffi | I'm a simple man. A good beer and good food makes me so happy. |
| 02:04.55 | nibordoohe | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:05.25 | nibordoohe | <PROTECTED> |
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| 02:10.41 | pompy | http://eater.com/archives/2013/02/28/mcdonalds-korea-kicks-out-kids-for-ordering-250-worth-of-french-fries.php |
| 02:14.11 | Neffi | I don't see what the big problem is |
| 02:14.33 | Neffi | They just dropped $250. They made an afternoon's business in one order and only took up a few tables to do it |
| 02:15.11 | kd3 | the problem is when anyone else comes in and goes... "can I have some fries?" "nope. our fryers are claimed for the next 30 minutes" |
| 02:15.42 | Neffi | So you can always go "okay that's a little ridiculous, but we'll give you $50 in fries" |
| 02:15.56 | Neffi | To refuse them business because they want your product too much isn't wise |
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| 02:17.06 | xyphoid | depends on way more than just how much money they're paying you, though |
| 02:17.07 | Neffi | Or honestly just tell them "look, that's gonna take a while". Most McDonalds places have 2-3 fryers. Limit their order to only one of those, and you can still otherwise serve customers. |
| 02:17.39 | xyphoid | for example, if your markup on fries is lower than burgers, and the fry order messes with other customers, it might make total sense |
| 02:18.42 | Neffi | I kinda wanna go out with a few friends and order a table worth of fries now |
| 02:19.13 | Amarande | mcd's priorities are just wacked sometimes |
| 02:19.29 | Amarande | I remember once a few years ago Dad went there on the way home from the off track betting parlor |
| 02:19.48 | Amarande | and bought cheeseburgers to bring home to the family |
| 02:19.59 | Amarande | and they were like, RIGHT about to put them in his bag |
| 02:20.34 | Amarande | then some bastard comes up to the DT and orders a bunch of cheeseburgers ... they TOOK THEM AWAY from Dad's order and gave them to the DT guy and made Dad wait all over again |
| 02:20.53 | Amarande | because apparently DT customers are sacred and people who actually, you know, deign to come inside the place are second class |
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| 02:21.40 | Neffi | I might've walked behind the counter and taken the burgers |
| 02:21.59 | Amarande | I actually went in the next day and complained about it ... they basically just told me that DT customers are high priority and it doesn't matter that he'd been waiting longer |
| 02:22.00 | Dagmar | DT? |
| 02:22.03 | Amarande | drive thru |
| 02:22.05 | Neffi | Employees there won't touch you. They risk losing their job for interfering with a customer, even one who's "stealing" |
| 02:22.26 | Amarande | drive thru customers get priority service, *even if* the person inside was waiting longer, apparently :| |
| 02:23.13 | Dagmar | Wow. I'd have made my priority to buy at Burger King |
| 02:23.35 | Arrowmaster | arbys has better fries |
| 02:24.38 | xyphoid | the cool thin is that if this had happened out of your sight, your life would have been happier and you wouldn't care |
| 02:25.41 | Dagmar | Considering I just complained to HQ that the local McDonalds took 20 minutes to handle my drive through order the other night, I'd probably have been asking why the hell it takes so long to make three burgers |
| 02:26.13 | Dagmar | The idiot management there has decided they only need three people for the night shift |
| 02:26.14 | kd3 | and, 4-2 st louis |
| 02:26.21 | kd3 | what a turnaround from last night |
| 02:26.30 | Amarande | boooooo |
| 02:26.34 | kd3 | of course, dagmar, if they cut payroll down the managers get a bonus |
| 02:26.35 | Amarande | not that it'll likely help them |
| 02:26.47 | Amarande | I heard that something like nine out of ten times the team that wins game one wins the series |
| 02:26.57 | Amarande | I really don't think victory is in the ... er ... cards for the National League :) |
| 02:27.51 | Dagmar | ...and I don't have to go there to use their Street Pass relay |
| 02:28.01 | Amarande | Dagmar: actually food-wise I do prefer Burger King |
| 02:28.04 | Dagmar | In fact, I'm using it right now, oddly enouhg. |
| 02:28.14 | Amarande | the problem is that it's horribly inconvenient for me to go to the one near work, unlike the McD's |
| 02:28.18 | Neffi | Wendy's is better than both |
| 02:28.22 | Neffi | And Checkers is too |
| 02:28.43 | Amarande | crossing the street seems to take like five minutes each way before you can get a light your way |
| 02:28.44 | Dagmar | Wendy's actually puts lettuce on burgers |
| 02:28.50 | Dagmar | That almost seems alien nowadays |
| 02:28.58 | Amarande | and cars aren't any good either because to get back to work or home out of BK you have to make a damn left |
| 02:29.07 | Neffi | I actually rather like Wendy's. McDonalds and BK I get purely for easy sustenance. |
| 02:29.09 | Amarande | and as I know when I'm riding in someone else's car at that BK |
| 02:29.23 | Neffi | Although McD's new Habenaro QP is pretty tasty |
| 02:29.28 | Amarande | the traffic will never, ever fucking let you make a left out of it, so you have to go all the way round town instead |
| 02:29.30 | Dagmar | Michael Douglas had it right |
| 02:30.30 | Amarande | Neffi: though even that seems like a really late answer to the angry whopper, no? |
| 02:31.07 | Amarande | mind you locally my real fave restaurant is the chinese buffet, at lunchtime you can get AYCE for 7.71 after tax |
| 02:31.33 | Dagmar | I don't even know the name of the place I go to for that |
| 02:31.42 | kd3 | ^ |
| 02:31.47 | Dagmar | I just know that there I have learned how to throw sushi into my mouth using chopsticks |
| 02:31.48 | kd3 | "the chinese place by the interstate" |
| 02:32.46 | Neffi | I just got the angry wopper. It was OK. Nothing special really. |
| 02:32.58 | Neffi | Not spicy enough, not much flavor there, just the usual fast food. |
| 02:33.30 | Arrowmaster | i have subway almost every day for lunch |
| 02:33.30 | Neffi | The new habanero QP on the other hand actually has flavor to it, and a good spicy kick |
| 02:33.32 | Dagmar | They sell them angry now? |
| 02:33.51 | Dagmar | How exactly does one draw the ire of a cheeseburger? |
| 02:33.52 | Neffi | Yup. Jalapenos, "angry" onions and pepper jack cheese |
| 02:33.54 | Neffi | Oh, and bacon |
| 02:34.05 | Neffi | Angry onions are like onion rings, but strips instead of rings |
| 02:34.08 | Dagmar | Ah |
| 02:34.25 | kd3 | you'll be angry when it comes out the other end in a day |
| 02:34.27 | Neffi | It's a step up from the normal whopper, and nice if you havent had BK in a while and want that type of food, but it's disappointing |
| 02:34.39 | Neffi | It actually didn't give me any trouble |
| 02:34.50 | Neffi | Then again I eat a lot of spicy and strong stuff |
| 02:35.12 | Dagmar | I prefer to taste things |
| 02:35.35 | Torhal | Arrowmaster: http://candybox2.net/ or GTFO. |
| 02:35.52 | Dagmar | If I want fire in my mouth, I have zippo fluid in a convenient sippy can. |
| 02:35.54 | Neffi | Only a crappy chef lets the spicyness of peppers overpower the flavor |
| 02:36.54 | Neffi | My friend's grandmother is straight from Trinidad, and makes this pepper sauce out of the hottest pepper in the world. It's like a puree of the pepper, with chunks floating in it, and a hint of other seasonings. It should be the hottest thing you can get. And it very well might be, but you don't notice because it's so damned packed with flavore |
| 02:37.08 | Neffi | Sure, your mouth burns like fuck, but it's nothing compared to eating food that's just hot and nothing else |
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| 02:38.26 | Dagmar | I don't put more hot sauce on food than I'd have in my bloody mary. |
| 02:38.42 | Neffi | Eww, bloody mary |
| 02:39.19 | Neffi | I guess it's just me. I like to feel like I'm consuming something. |
| 02:39.58 | Neffi | Strong stuff only makes sense to me. I drink full cups of strong espresso. I drink strong beer. And I like drinks like whiskey over the fancy mixed crap. |
| 02:40.13 | Neffi | Part of the enjoyment is in the feeling |
| 02:43.24 | Amarande | I have a little bottle of ghost pepper sauce somewhere in the fridge |
| 02:43.30 | Amarande | that stuff is POWERFUL |
| 02:43.49 | Amarande | let's put it this way ... I would eat stouffer's mac and cheese a lot back in the day |
| 02:43.57 | Amarande | back before I mostly swore off nestle products altogether, anyway |
| 02:44.20 | Amarande | and since it was a little pedestrian I'd think of various ways to add kick to it ... usually cayenne pepper |
| 02:44.29 | Amarande | anyway I'd sprinkle the cayenne pretty copiously too |
| 02:44.51 | Amarande | well ... tried the ghost pepper sauce ... like ONE DROP of that stuff in the WHOLE tray of mac and cheese is like liberally sprinkling the whole thing with cayenne |
| 02:46.50 | Neffi | Turns out there's a pepper native to Trinidad that's hotter than the ghost pepper by an order of magnitude |
| 02:47.18 | Neffi | I bet you can imagine, it was interesting to learn of that by trying it |
| 02:48.24 | JTF195 | the trinidad moruga scorpion |
| 02:48.32 | Neffi | I think that's it |
| 02:48.50 | Neffi | I've been meaning to get the recipe from her for a while, and figure out where she buys her ingredients |
| 02:48.58 | Neffi | You cant exactly find that shit in a grocery store |
| 02:49.19 | JTF195 | 2,009,231 on the scoville scale |
| 02:49.39 | Neffi | I think I'll have to make a trip to Queens to make the sauce |
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| 02:56.05 | Arrowmaster | this monkey wizzard is a bitch |
| 02:56.25 | Neffi | hahaha |
| 02:58.05 | Arrowmaster | i have him down to 174 |
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| 03:07.37 | Arrowmaster | hes at 30 now and doing a ton of damage |
| 03:11.47 | Torhal | Arrowmaster: Red gloves. |
| 03:11.57 | Torhal | Teleport, Erase Magic |
| 03:12.25 | Arrowmaster | doing pink with acid rain and erase |
| 03:12.29 | Torhal | Also when you get his staff and the octopus King's crown - ENCHANT those bitches. |
| 03:20.31 | Amarande | Neffi: pretty sure you can get scorpion pepper from amazon |
| 03:21.01 | Amarande | heh I've also had someone tell me once about the ultimate spiciness additive, though |
| 03:21.16 | Amarande | allegedly it's like a million times the kick of a ghost pepper |
| 03:21.25 | Amarande | and apparently that's when it's diluted |
| 03:21.39 | Amarande | undiluted, it's a billion times, but also it's said to be illegal to distribute undiluted |
| 03:22.00 | Amarande | and by "illegal" not even a matter of state or federal law, it was the *Geneva Convention* that was claimed |
| 03:22.17 | Fisker | tackles towards kd3|hate`net |
| 03:22.50 | Amarande | just remember, whether it's cayenne or ghost, it is the touch of pain that brings the pleasure :) |
| 03:24.42 | Neffi | Sure, you can buy pure capsacean |
| 03:24.51 | Neffi | Flavor > heat |
| 03:25.10 | Neffi | Thing about buying this stuff off Amazon is, you're not getting the fresh stuff |
| 03:25.40 | Neffi | A lot of people in Queens are from Trinidad, and they know this pepper better than anyone. They know how to grow it, or import it from where it's grown, so it's good. |
| 03:26.04 | Neffi | I mean, you don't go to McDonalds for high quality beef |
| 03:27.13 | Amarande | heh this alleged thing was apparently about a million times as hot as capsaicin |
| 03:27.31 | Amarande | pity it would have to be Queens though :( |
| 03:28.04 | Amarande | and I'm not thinking about paranoid aspects like that it seems to be Queens that has a lot of the places you really don't want to find yourself at night |
| 03:28.15 | Amarande | more the fact that Queens seems to have a lot less convenient transit than the other boroughs :( |
| 03:28.27 | Amarande | unless you're going somewhere that's close to the A or L train |
| 03:28.48 | Amarande | at least, in the more eastern parts of Queens like Ozone Park and the like |
| 03:29.13 | Amarande | I'm foggy on just where Brooklyn gives way to Queens so there might be more subway in the more western parts |
| 03:29.48 | Amarande | usually when I'm in the city I stay in Manhattan and only venture out to Queens to go to the airport |
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| 03:35.19 | Neffi | Ah yes, there's another chemical that has the same behavior as capsaicin, only much more potent |
| 03:35.23 | Neffi | I forget what it is |
| 03:36.12 | Neffi | Also I'm not that familiar with Queens. I havent had the fortune of getting familiar with it. |
| 03:36.44 | Neffi | I've been mostly keeping myself busy on Staten Island for a while |
| 03:42.27 | Neffi | But what I have picked up is that it's totally reasonable to be wary of Queens in general |
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| 03:42.49 | Neffi | I mean, you don't have to be paranoid to take a walk down the wrong street after dark in Queens |
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| 03:43.00 | Neffi | It's not exactly known for its safety |
| 03:55.04 | Neffi | http://arstechnica.com/security/2013/10/hackers-compromise-official-php-website-infect-visitors-with-malware/ |
| 03:58.47 | Amarande | yeah, and sometimes it's even the cops you have to worry about :| |
| 03:58.53 | Amarande | like that one time where the cops shot that guy 50 times |
| 03:59.08 | Amarande | that was in queens, and there were collateral injuries as far away as the airtrain apparently |
| 03:59.28 | Amarande | one of the bullets managed to stray off that far and hit the glass and tag an MTA cop with fragments :| |
| 03:59.46 | Amarande | glad I wasn't flying that morning, because that was also actually the general time of day that I'd be RIDING the airtrain |
| 04:01.17 | Neffi | The NYPD isn't always the pillar of safety people hope for |
| 04:01.24 | Amarande | Plus, Manhattan is also a lot more stayable than people tend to think, too |
| 04:01.33 | Neffi | Oh definitely |
| 04:01.33 | Amarande | people keep perceiving it as "omg it's expensive you gotta be rich to stay in manhattan" |
| 04:01.51 | Neffi | I know quite a lot of people that stay in Manhattan. None of them are rich. |
| 04:01.54 | Amarande | meh, I've stayed in manhattan a number of times and I think the most I've ever paid for a hotel room is about 155 for a night after taxes |
| 04:02.16 | Neffi | I'd say it might actually be more expensive to live in a Brownstone in Brooklyn than to live in a fairly nice place in Manhattan |
| 04:02.24 | Amarande | and that's in the good part of town to boot, I'm usually a few blocks from the Garden when I stay a night in Manhattan |
| 04:02.43 | Amarande | sometimes I get as low as 99 a night before taxes |
| 04:03.03 | Neffi | People get the sense that Manhattan = upscale and Brooklyn = slums, but that's definitely not the case |
| 04:03.27 | Amarande | prices seem higher this year though. probably places trying to make extra revenues to make up for all the money they lost in sandy |
| 04:03.33 | Neffi | The strange thing about both of these places is that you can find the most upscale, rich living in the country, and 4 blocks away you can find ghetto |
| 04:03.53 | Neffi | And you can find a fine medium for living well at a good cost pretty much anywhere in the city |
| 04:04.18 | Amarande | in fact prices throughout the east coast seem higher this year :| |
| 04:04.47 | Amarande | I was looking at hotels in Atlanta for the few nights before Jordan Con next April ... some of them cost more than they do during Dragon Con |
| 04:04.50 | Neffi | And I bet you they'll stay high long after it's justified |
| 04:05.50 | Amarande | like the marriott is something like 240 a night then ... it was only 190 a night last year at Dragon Con when it was packed |
| 04:06.29 | Amarande | and by packed I mean if it wasn't for the fact that Passkey's servers are utter shit |
| 04:06.43 | Amarande | I could seriously bet that the Dragon Con hotels would sell out faster than BlizzCon tickets |
| 04:07.38 | Amarande | they take about 20 minutes to sell out ... and most of that seems to be people getting server timeouts because of overload |
| 04:11.15 | kullervo | hmh, my account expired two days ago |
| 04:11.21 | kullervo | oddly enough, I've been playing just fine |
| 04:11.41 | kullervo | I also wonder just why it expired because I checked I have a recurring subscription less than a week ago |
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| 04:25.00 | Torhal | Arrowmaster: https://www.dropbox.com/s/3loud23w4ys69dj/Screenshot%202013-10-24%2023.24.48.png |
| 04:27.35 | Thunder_Child | Fuck the mosquitos |
| 04:28.14 | Thunder_Child | I see you also inverted mr. colours |
| 04:29.51 | kullervo | also this isn't the channel I planned to complain about that on |
| 04:31.28 | Thunder_Child | Seems like a place to do it |
| 04:34.52 | kullervo | I guess it's wow related, so close enough |
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| 06:17.53 | pompy | https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=573488212705874&set=a.414413855279978.99986.276710412383657&type=1 awesome |
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| 06:49.06 | airtonix | https://plus.google.com/u/0/photos/116086720751146730048/albums/5938172544985791777/5938172544707881602?sqi=100821581565823788798&sqsi=55eefd0f-b6a6-4162-baa2-dbd4d8f61d65&pid=5938172544707881602&oid=116086720751146730048 |
| 06:49.40 | airtonix | you can have those extra numbers for free |
| 06:50.17 | airtonix | android is so awesome it controls traffic lights with video files |
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| 07:25.35 | Semlar | a hacker could definitely run a script using a video file, i don't understand the point of this rant |
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| 07:36.40 | Maldivia | yeah, me neither - clever way to hide it |
| 07:37.00 | nevcairiel | its still a bit stupid |
| 07:37.12 | Semlar | clearly you've never seen the film HACKERS |
| 07:37.24 | nevcairiel | that whole movie is pretty stupid |
| 07:37.34 | Semlar | greatest film of all time |
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| 07:40.06 | airtonix | the point is |
| 07:40.13 | airtonix | android is teh awesome |
| 07:40.34 | airtonix | could never do this with ios, because there's no file manager |
| 07:41.01 | mikma | semlar: hack the planet |
| 07:41.16 | Semlar | don't copy that floppy |
| 07:42.22 | Maldivia | hide the script in the mp4's metadata, looks like a normal video if played in a normal video player, but a special player will see the metadata and execute that instead |
| 07:42.50 | mikma | i'll show you a special player |
| 07:43.07 | Semlar | plus it probably just sends the command to a server which actually executes the thing |
| 07:43.20 | mikma | http://www.break.com/video/player-with-down-syndrome-gets-his-first-touchdown-2531161 |
| 07:43.20 | Semlar | who's gonna hack the planet with a smartphone |
| 07:43.23 | mikma | there's a special player |
| 07:43.28 | nevcairiel | Maldivia: and then name the video Gridlock? :P |
| 07:43.38 | Gnarfoz | kd3|hate`net: ping |
| 07:44.17 | Maldivia | nevcairiel: couldn have been this short: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2624950/ :P |
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| 07:48.19 | mikma | http://www.break.com/video/morgan-freeman-reads-what-does-the-fox-say-2531868 |
| 07:48.24 | harl | suddenly, breakfast. |
| 07:49.04 | Fisker | pls Maldivia |
| 07:49.25 | Fisker | don't mikma |
| 07:49.29 | Fisker | Cairenn will tear this place apart |
| 07:49.54 | mikma | fisker: bankick all |
| 07:49.58 | Cairenn | rofl |
| 07:51.23 | Cairenn | hahahhahahahahahahha |
| 07:53.43 | Fisker | here we go |
| 07:53.47 | Cairenn | hahahhahahahhahaha |
| 07:53.56 | Fisker | heads for the hills |
| 07:54.07 | Cairenn | Thanks mikma :) |
| 07:54.14 | mikma | nps :D |
| 07:55.24 | mikma | these are also funny: http://youtu.be/mhko3m7D6UA & http://youtu.be/oSfpEG3SFc8 |
| 07:57.11 | airtonix | Cairenn: hear freemans horse laugh? |
| 07:57.27 | Cairenn | No? |
| 07:57.34 | Fisker | I can't even watch it :( |
| 07:57.47 | airtonix | click the invisible yellow text |
| 07:57.52 | airtonix | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXSYybCVxVM |
| 07:58.05 | airtonix | "mr freeman, would you read this?" |
| 07:58.10 | airtonix | freeman: horse laugh |
| 07:58.31 | mikma | 0:44 -> |
| 07:58.36 | mikma | horse laugh |
| 07:58.36 | airtonix | anti-climanx |
| 07:58.46 | Cairenn | ah |
| 07:58.48 | Cairenn | yeah |
| 07:59.09 | Alram | Mr. Freeman? http://marlamin.com/g/morganfreeman.gif |
| 07:59.33 | Fisker | stop Alram |
| 07:59.46 | Fisker | just because you use one letter sub directories does not make you into reddit |
| 07:59.51 | Alram | fine Fisker :( |
| 07:59.59 | Fisker | :) |
| 07:59.59 | Alram | its g for gaben though :( |
| 08:00.02 | airtonix | hemad |
| 08:00.03 | Fisker | yes |
| 08:00.07 | Fisker | and r for reddit |
| 08:00.19 | Fisker | (Could be something else, but I'm a nice guy) |
| 08:00.25 | airtonix | lies |
| 08:00.38 | airtonix | big troll is best troll |
| 08:02.31 | Fisker | I'm never gonna listen to morgan freemans voice :( |
| 08:05.37 | mikma | fisker: http://youtu.be/7bFHzDa9U9w |
| 08:07.04 | mikma | hmm. tesla coil is still like sid-heaven |
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| 08:10.11 | jnwhiteh | Where does one download Grid these days? |
| 08:11.23 | harl | curse? |
| 08:12.09 | jnwhiteh | harl: is it still grid1? |
| 08:12.40 | harl | yes |
| 08:12.47 | jnwhiteh | k |
| 08:13.45 | nevcairiel | there is also a grid2, but its from different authors and more of a parallel product |
| 08:14.09 | mikma | jnwhiteh: PerfectRaid lol lol |
| 08:14.17 | harl | lol lol? |
| 08:14.37 | jnwhiteh | heh, i dont want to use it |
| 08:14.42 | jnwhiteh | addon bug, yet again |
| 08:14.48 | Humbedooh | you know you want to... :o |
| 08:15.00 | Humbedooh | downloads jnwhiteh and installs on Torhal |
| 08:15.35 | Torhal | Humbedooh: CRC error. What now? |
| 08:15.47 | Torhal | transfers Humbedooh to tape. |
| 08:15.55 | Humbedooh | SIGPIPE! |
| 08:16.31 | Torhal | translates Humbedooh to Scala. |
| 08:16.36 | jnwhiteh | god damnit |
| 08:16.38 | jnwhiteh | when do i gain a heal |
| 08:16.45 | jnwhiteh | what class gets a heal the earliest? |
| 08:16.47 | Humbedooh | heals jnwhiteh |
| 08:16.52 | Fisker | done with your paper yet jnwhiteh? |
| 08:16.58 | jnwhiteh | Fisker: thesis? no |
| 08:17.01 | nevcairiel | dont priests have one from the start |
| 08:17.03 | jnwhiteh | nevcairiel: no |
| 08:17.05 | Fisker | ok :( |
| 08:17.10 | Humbedooh | paginations, paginations.. |
| 08:17.32 | jnwhiteh | Fisker: =) |
| 08:17.36 | jnwhiteh | i'm working on it tho |
| 08:19.14 | harl | it's been a while since i tested grid2 and it wasn't too well developed then. but who knows, now, you might still like it. |
| 08:20.13 | airtonix | is it just me or is ubuntu phone not that fast? |
| 08:20.32 | airtonix | i've installed it on my old galaxy nexus... and i'm underwhelmed |
| 08:21.34 | Fisker | heh jnwhiteh |
| 08:22.01 | mikma | airtonix: maybe your phone is slow |
| 08:22.21 | harl | recommends ditching the whole smartphone allure altogether |
| 08:22.41 | airtonix | the user interface approach sux too |
| 08:22.56 | airtonix | to go back you have to swipe up from the bottom so you can then click back? |
| 08:23.05 | airtonix | isn't that magic meat syndrome? |
| 08:23.16 | mikma | what i was able to see from the videos from users, ubuntu seemed quite fast on their phone |
| 08:23.35 | airtonix | what phone was it? |
| 08:23.39 | zenzio | so, there's an update available on my Android for the HP Print Service Plugin. I don't even know what I would ever use it for... the joy of bundled apps |
| 08:23.43 | airtonix | nexus 4 or the galaxy nexus? |
| 08:23.57 | harl | ok, zenzio. |
| 08:24.18 | Mr_Rabies | airtonix: You're underwhelmed, some people are overwhelmed, why aren't people ever just whelmed? |
| 08:24.19 | airtonix | mikma: galaxy nexus actually runs cyanogenmod 10.2 really nicely |
| 08:24.58 | airtonix | oh and the notification bar at the top, you have to swipe down exactly on the icon you want information from. |
| 08:25.17 | harl | gently whelms mr_rabies on the noggin |
| 08:26.01 | mikma | airtonix: i can't remember which device it was, but one of the supported for the developer preview |
| 08:26.04 | Mr_Rabies | if you get that reference you're officially cool in my book |
| 08:26.33 | airtonix | mikma: galaxy nexus is on that small list. |
| 08:26.35 | jnwhiteh | Mr_Rabies: I think can be whelmed in Europe! |
| 08:26.57 | mikma | i myself ma thinking that should i install the "3rd party" CM 10.2 on my Samsung galaxy S3 mini |
| 08:27.29 | airtonix | mikma: i'd like to try paranoid android sometime |
| 08:27.59 | airtonix | but i'm not really motivated yet since i all i hear is hype |
| 08:28.04 | mikma | airtonix: there's this "PAC-man" for sgs3m too |
| 08:28.27 | mikma | err, PAC-rom |
| 08:28.44 | mikma | well, see for yourself, http://pac-rom.com/#Home |
| 08:28.48 | harl | 10 things i hate about you? didn't exactly like it |
| 08:29.21 | mikma | i wan't you, i need you, oh baby oh baby... |
| 08:29.36 | harl | it's not about 10 things i like about you, after all |
| 08:29.46 | airtonix | lol that website, bounce all the things |
| 08:30.49 | mikma | the thing is, do you really wanna put everything out there in a single package... |
| 08:31.00 | mikma | that has never worked with wow compilations ;) |
| 08:31.31 | airtonix | those are all mainly user interface additions yeah? |
| 08:31.33 | mikma | "here's m superduper compilation!" -> installs -> WHAM! 200 addons in middle of the screen, unorganized.. ummm, great |
| 08:32.40 | harl | wut? |
| 08:32.46 | harl | why would anyone be that stupid |
| 08:33.26 | airtonix | harl: people installed carbonite |
| 08:33.34 | mikma | ahahaha, true |
| 08:35.22 | Fisker | If you tell me I can't handle offensive stuff at work you're gonna have a bad time |
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| 08:47.46 | harl | that randomness |
| 09:09.14 | jleclanche | The PHP project has announced that its web site was compromised and used to serve malicious JavaScript code to users. The PHP source distribution was not attacked. "php.net users will have their passwords reset. Note that users of PHP are unaffected by this: this is solely for people committing code to projects hosted on svn.php.net or git.php.net." |
| 09:09.24 | jleclanche | 1 day earlier: "Google is evil! They flagged php.net! Evil!" |
| 09:10.45 | airtonix | http://attackemart.in/ |
| 09:11.34 | airtonix | jleclanche: no one important uses php, it's ok. |
| 09:12.06 | jleclanche | neat |
| 09:12.26 | airtonix | wonder if he will be making google glass stuff? |
| 09:13.56 | harl | airtonix: i have to admit, i had carbonite installed for a few days myself too when it was cool, and it never really was cool, even when i gave it another try a few months later, so.. yeah, some people seem to have lower expectations than others. |
| 09:23.09 | mikma | so tempted to buy newest batman game |
| 09:23.26 | harl | nah |
| 10:00.36 | Fisker | oh my god |
| 10:01.41 | Fisker | and now they day is over :( |
| 10:01.49 | airtonix | ok |
| 10:02.33 | nevcairiel | lunch soon, a small meeting directly after, and then the week is over! |
| 10:08.26 | mikma | my week has been over from yesterday :I having flu is the greatest thing ever |
| 10:10.13 | haste | mikma: having pink nightmares! |
| 10:11.29 | mikma | haste: i see. how about this? http://imgur.com/gallery/D6InO |
| 10:11.44 | haste | haha |
| 10:11.46 | haste | lovely |
| 10:17.03 | mikma | http://www.mandatory.com/2013/10/23/the-ups-and-downs-of-getting-the-flu/ |
| 10:17.03 | mikma | hmmm |
| 10:18.24 | bleeter | \O/ MOAR BOOZE!\O/ |
| 10:18.54 | harl | mare booze |
| 10:19.21 | haste | mikma: I've never had the flu, I feel so left out |
| 10:19.46 | mikma | haste: just wait, you'll end up at the masturbation part soon |
| 10:19.55 | haste | SOON |
| 10:20.04 | mikma | http://imgur.com/gallery/NMo65M2 |
| 10:20.35 | airtonix | soon? |
| 10:21.11 | airtonix | i like how the graph improves after that |
| 10:21.18 | harl | masturbation works even without the flu part |
| 10:22.56 | bleeter | silly blizzard 'ssl_error_no_cypher_overlap' |
| 10:25.12 | bleeter | ohwait no |
| 10:25.15 | bleeter | silly bleeter |
| 10:26.11 | airtonix | The actor who had a bit part on “Mighty Morphin Power Rangers” was sentenced to death in 2009 for murdering a husband and wife on their yacht, which he expressed interest in purchasing. The name of the yacht, sadly, was the “Well Deserved.” |
| 10:26.12 | haste | mikma: started on the older albums now, going downhill from here I guess :P |
| 10:26.43 | mikma | haste: hah. you'll so regret that when you hit the 2010 stuff |
| 10:27.19 | haste | avoiding EPs ! |
| 10:27.21 | haste | so already at 2009 |
| 10:28.08 | mikma | hmm, apparently the worst part is 2007~ |
| 10:28.20 | mikma | it's like scooter, on mushrooms :D |
| 10:28.44 | haste | lovely |
| 10:28.55 | haste | guess I'll stop there then :P |
| 10:29.19 | mikma | you'll know when to stop |
| 10:29.53 | haste | I like how it took me 13 years, just to find something by them that I could listen to :P |
| 10:30.22 | mikma | hah |
| 10:31.57 | Fisker | http://www.c-sharpcorner.com/Forums/Thread/109719/ |
| 10:32.01 | Fisker | activex wants the D: |
| 10:32.18 | Fisker | also an URI is not a relative path |
| 10:37.46 | bleeter | Fisker: are you sure? |
| 10:45.07 | Fisker | maybe bleeter |
| 10:45.09 | Fisker | it can be |
| 10:45.11 | Fisker | jersk |
| 10:45.25 | Fisker | or maybe it can't |
| 10:45.28 | Fisker | because there may be a distinction between what you call those |
| 10:50.35 | harl | blah blah |
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| 11:12.51 | Torhal | forces http://candybox2.net/ upon jnwhiteh. |
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| 11:20.12 | karl_w_w | http://www.rowsdowr.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/nePpz.jpg that is beyond weird |
| 11:23.40 | jleclanche | airtonix: did you watch the hornet video btw? https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/transmission/13329-Introducing-The-Anvil-Hornet-Lineup |
| 11:31.07 | karl_w_w | billy sleeter! that could be a real name! |
| 11:31.25 | karl_w_w | I discovered your real name bleeter |
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| 12:00.54 | airtonix | jleclanche: i think i've seen it before |
| 12:02.01 | karl_w_w | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7x6XCCbT5Ak what a genius idea for a play mode |
| 12:06.42 | airtonix | jleclanche: i hope we can fly through atmostphere down into cities |
| 12:17.36 | karl_w_w | lol 55 min since last huolon spawn and realm restarts |
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| 12:41.41 | mikma | http://youtu.be/KEEAswJLZaI |
| 12:55.25 | karl_w_w | "Your PC will automatically restart in 1 day if you don't restart now. |
| 12:55.30 | karl_w_w | " |
| 13:03.24 | zenzio | "There are two primary use cases for Zend_Layout: with the Zend Framework MVC, and without." |
| 13:03.31 | zenzio | I wonder what the non-primary use cases are |
| 13:03.42 | zenzio | both with and without at the same time? |
| 13:06.55 | karl_w_w | schrozender |
| 13:10.13 | karl_w_w | ok that is completely fucked up |
| 13:10.24 | karl_w_w | i have 2 minions, he has an empty board |
| 13:10.45 | karl_w_w | he plays onyxia (so he now has onyxia and 6 whelps) |
| 13:10.53 | karl_w_w | i play brawl, only anyxia survives |
| 13:11.45 | karl_w_w | 1 in 9 chance to win the game |
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| 13:24.45 | Amarande | oh, onyxia as in hearthstone stuff, I'm guessing |
| 13:25.08 | Amarande | at first I thought the server ... and then I remember onyxia is one of those servers that has fewer people that play on it than still approve of congress, heh |
| 13:25.37 | karl_w_w | probably every realm |
| 13:25.53 | Amarande | heh, probably in reality |
| 13:25.59 | Amarande | although there are pretty few folks who still approve of congress |
| 13:26.27 | Amarande | of course, can you blame them, especially since Feinstein looks like a Sith Lord into the bargain, based on this picture that I've seen in the Guardian :P |
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| 13:42.57 | karl_w_w | oh god time for an epicly long chkdsk |
| 13:43.07 | karl_w_w | disappears into the ether |
| 13:53.58 | Amarande | heh |
| 13:54.02 | Amarande | I know that feeling |
| 13:54.08 | Amarande | I still remember the olden days when I'd run linux with ext2 |
| 13:54.24 | Amarande | "drive /dev/hda was not cleanly unmounted. check forced" |
| 13:54.30 | Amarande | forced = "back in an hour, buster" |
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| 14:42.05 | Ackis | Cairenn: http://i.imgur.com/mixphRT.jpg (no idea how accurate those stats are, but wtf 401?) |
| 14:43.09 | Ackis | also does anyone here have the disc version of batman arkham asylum goty or arkham city normal/goty/ |
| 14:44.04 | nevcairiel | what do these numbers even mean? |
| 14:44.11 | nevcairiel | i mean, its just numbers without explanation |
| 14:44.24 | nevcairiel | chickens on the road in a year? |
| 14:44.35 | Maldivia | avg number og cars per highway? in otherwords, not many highways in Canada, but the few that are are used a lot? |
| 14:45.15 | nevcairiel | maybe its just very long? |
| 14:45.23 | Ackis | that's what she said |
| 14:45.35 | nevcairiel | also those seem more like freeways then highways |
| 14:46.00 | nevcairiel | at least the european ones, unless canadians use different meanings for those words |
| 14:46.50 | Ackis | personally I don't have a distinction between a highway and a freeway |
| 14:49.00 | Ackis | also driving on the 401 is scary as fuck... people going 100-130 km/hour and only leaving a cars length between them and the car in front of them |
| 14:49.26 | nevcairiel | i just know that the australians call any bigger road a highway, and the parts that actually look like a german "autobahn" are called freeway. :p |
| 14:50.04 | nevcairiel | Ackis: drive in germany some day, same situation except everyone is going faster, more like 130-169 |
| 14:50.07 | nevcairiel | 160* |
| 14:50.49 | nevcairiel | and of course there is always that one guy thats coming up from behind going 200 with his lights flashing |
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| 14:55.31 | Gnarfoz | which is legitimate if done from afar |
| 14:55.48 | nevcairiel | sure, still annoying :p |
| 14:55.53 | Gnarfoz | of course |
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| 15:04.19 | Ackis | ping pompy |
| 15:04.21 | Ackis | ping Torhal |
| 15:04.23 | Ackis | ping Ressy |
| 15:04.28 | Ackis | I'm bored guys, talk to me ;) |
| 15:06.00 | Ressy | I'm busy. Bite me. |
| 15:06.10 | Ressy | :P |
| 15:07.06 | Ackis | noms Ressy |
| 15:08.51 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: am I going to be bored out of my mind on US highways? probably :D |
| 15:08.58 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 15:09.05 | nevcairiel | i was terribly bored on AU highways |
| 15:09.17 | nevcairiel | even driving on the wrong side was boring after the first hour :P |
| 15:09.22 | Ackis | I was terrified of US highways |
| 15:09.31 | Ackis | fuckers down there be crazy |
| 15:09.33 | Arrowmaster | depends on the state |
| 15:09.39 | Gnarfoz | do rental cars have cruise control? (some of them at least?) |
| 15:09.45 | Arrowmaster | some |
| 15:09.45 | Ackis | most do |
| 15:09.46 | nevcairiel | many do |
| 15:09.51 | Gnarfoz | that's a relief |
| 15:10.06 | nevcairiel | i would've gone mad in AU without that |
| 15:10.16 | Gnarfoz | I think cruise control is one of the most used features my car hs |
| 15:10.17 | nevcairiel | so long boring roads |
| 15:10.19 | Gnarfoz | *has |
| 15:10.23 | Arrowmaster | ive got cruise control in my manual but traffic is crazy enough to not use it often |
| 15:10.38 | Gnarfoz | Arrowmaster: on highways you mean? |
| 15:10.43 | Arrowmaster | yeah |
| 15:10.55 | Gnarfoz | I even use mine in town some times :D |
| 15:10.55 | Arrowmaster | well the highways i often drive |
| 15:11.12 | Gnarfoz | or I use the opposite setting, where it limits the speed instead of keeping it |
| 15:11.15 | nevcairiel | in town it really depends on the traffic, but yeah there are situations where you can even use it then |
| 15:11.27 | nevcairiel | hm mine doesnt have that setting |
| 15:11.30 | nevcairiel | that might be useful |
| 15:11.51 | Gnarfoz | it's a weird feeling when your accelerator just stops doing anything |
| 15:11.56 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 15:12.01 | Gnarfoz | (do they call it accelerator on manual cars?) |
| 15:12.22 | nevcairiel | gaspedal! |
| 15:12.34 | Gnarfoz | that's what 100% of germans would call it, indeed |
| 15:12.58 | Gnarfoz | even when they're actually in a car with a diesel engine (like mine) :D |
| 15:13.44 | nevcairiel | i think my next car will have automatic though |
| 15:13.50 | Gnarfoz | binary testing which system data restore keeps breaking my phone |
| 15:13.51 | Gnarfoz | fun times |
| 15:13.51 | nevcairiel | i kinda really liked it in my rental |
| 15:14.20 | Gnarfoz | yeah, I'd have bought an automatic, but there weren't any affordable ones when I was buying |
| 15:14.40 | Gnarfoz | I really dig my mom's car |
| 15:14.59 | Arrowmaster | i want my next car to be a tesla so no more manuals for me i guess |
| 15:15.09 | Gnarfoz | heh, yeah |
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| 15:15.26 | nevcairiel | tesla is pure electric, right? |
| 15:15.29 | Gnarfoz | yep |
| 15:15.33 | Gnarfoz | and pure awesome |
| 15:15.45 | nevcairiel | except that pure electric is pure awesome for an hour or so |
| 15:16.21 | Arrowmaster | its got a 300 mile range |
| 15:16.27 | nevcairiel | well then 2 |
| 15:16.43 | Kesava | .. 150 MPH? |
| 15:16.44 | Arrowmaster | thats about 4 hours |
| 15:16.47 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: it's a lot better than the competition |
| 15:16.59 | Gnarfoz | for which what you said applies |
| 15:17.02 | nevcairiel | so 4 hour driving and then what, 6 hour charging? :D |
| 15:17.11 | Gnarfoz | 30 min for 70% or something, IIRC |
| 15:17.16 | Arrowmaster | yeah |
| 15:17.27 | Arrowmaster | especially if you use a supercharger |
| 15:17.33 | Gnarfoz | superchargers supply 480 V/ 24 A or some crazy amount |
| 15:17.47 | Gnarfoz | also, supercharger stations even offer battery swaps |
| 15:17.48 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 15:17.54 | Gnarfoz | which take 90 seconds |
| 15:18.01 | Arrowmaster | superchargers are DC, they skip the charging circuitry in the car |
| 15:18.04 | Gnarfoz | (but unlike charging, they're not free) |
| 15:18.28 | Gnarfoz | free charging, that's like, whoa |
| 15:18.29 | Arrowmaster | i didnt know the swaps were in consumer models now |
| 15:18.54 | Gnarfoz | hm? they demoed it on Model S's, what other model would they be in? |
| 15:19.02 | nevcairiel | it'll take a few years until the infrastructure is expanded enough and the cars and batteries improved enough for me to even consider it |
| 15:19.07 | nevcairiel | today, or next year, nah |
| 15:19.19 | Gnarfoz | always depends on your use-case |
| 15:19.22 | Arrowmaster | 2015 for model E |
| 15:19.25 | Arrowmaster | hopefully |
| 15:19.46 | Gnarfoz | Model X announcement was in early 2012, more than a year before Model S ever shipped |
| 15:19.59 | Gnarfoz | Model X starts shipping this December if I've got that right |
| 15:20.05 | Gnarfoz | so... next one is due soon |
| 15:20.09 | Gnarfoz | (at least an announcement) |
| 15:20.14 | nevcairiel | website says model x ships 2015 |
| 15:20.19 | Gnarfoz | da fuq? |
| 15:20.29 | Gnarfoz | oh wait, it was mass production that starts end of 2013 |
| 15:21.02 | Arrowmaster | yes a few will go out in 2014 and the production will be at full capacity for 2015 |
| 15:21.14 | Gnarfoz | kind of a weird that they demoed a seemingly fully working Model X in early 2012 but don't ship them until 2015 |
| 15:21.18 | Gnarfoz | -a |
| 15:21.24 | Arrowmaster | prototypes |
| 15:21.34 | nevcairiel | maybe i should buy a house where i can actually have a garage and a charger instead of some apartment where everyone parks at the street :P |
| 15:21.44 | Gnarfoz | what's so different about prototypes if they're fully working |
| 15:21.53 | Arrowmaster | they arent made on a production line |
| 15:21.53 | nevcairiel | extremely expensive to build |
| 15:22.12 | nevcairiel | only with mass production its affordable |
| 15:22.15 | Gnarfoz | guess I don't know enough about car manufacturing, then |
| 15:22.38 | Arrowmaster | before they had to be bailed out the US auto makers would show of crazy prototypes that were fully working every year at car shows |
| 15:23.04 | Gnarfoz | also, one of these 4 is the culprit: Phone (Voicemails), Settings Storage, Calendar Storage, User Dictionary |
| 15:23.07 | Gnarfoz | place your bets |
| 15:23.40 | Arrowmaster | GM has a prototype electric car where they can swap out the body in an hour to turn it from a car to an SUV |
| 15:23.52 | Arrowmaster | its like 10 years old now |
| 15:23.57 | Gnarfoz | oO |
| 15:24.17 | Gnarfoz | I think Tesla has more of a grip on what's valuable in the swapping out department on eletric cars |
| 15:24.20 | Gnarfoz | :P |
| 15:24.21 | Arrowmaster | no pedals and the the wheel slides between sides so either person can drive |
| 15:24.31 | Gnarfoz | ok now that's a bit more interesting :D |
| 15:24.35 | Arrowmaster | yeah they used to make crazy prototypes |
| 15:24.53 | Arrowmaster | then economy crashed |
| 15:25.35 | TC-Work | I miss the jeep hurricane |
| 15:25.42 | TC-Work | that was a nifty concept |
| 15:26.37 | Gnarfoz | so, Aio Wireless seems like it's my best choice for a prepaid SIM card w/ data |
| 15:27.01 | Gnarfoz | but they have this weird thing where they throttle to 8 Mbit/s even when you're on LTE |
| 15:27.23 | Arrowmaster | can you get a tmobile |
| 15:27.31 | Gnarfoz | I could, but that'd be the worse choice |
| 15:27.35 | Arrowmaster | ok |
| 15:27.43 | Gnarfoz | less frequencies that my phone supports |
| 15:27.48 | Arrowmaster | ah |
| 15:27.50 | Gnarfoz | -> less effective coverage |
| 15:28.19 | Arrowmaster | you are going to end up with an att reseller then i bet |
| 15:28.30 | TC-Work | Verizon has better coverage |
| 15:28.38 | Gnarfoz | that's nice, and they're CDMA ;) |
| 15:28.45 | Arrowmaster | verizon cant be used in a european phone |
| 15:29.12 | Gnarfoz | Aio is a AT&T subsidiary, hehe |
| 15:29.36 | Arrowmaster | att is the national carrier that uses the same freqs as europe |
| 15:29.42 | Gnarfoz | some of them, at least |
| 15:29.45 | Gnarfoz | (: |
| 15:29.50 | Arrowmaster | if you dont care about data then tmobile is fine |
| 15:29.51 | Gnarfoz | best overlap, yeah |
| 15:30.24 | Gnarfoz | I'll need data for sure |
| 15:31.10 | Gnarfoz | wonder if I should take the 7 GB plan right away, or hope that 2 GB suffice and if not, pay another $10 for an additional 1 GB |
| 15:31.32 | Arrowmaster | i use a 2GB plan but i dont know what your usage is like |
| 15:31.36 | Gnarfoz | probably the latter, I don't use up my 2 GB every month here... but I'll probably use my phone quite a bit more on holiday |
| 15:31.57 | Gnarfoz | but I hear there's a lot more free wifi in the US |
| 15:32.20 | Arrowmaster | none of it is going to be working around the con |
| 15:32.31 | Arrowmaster | if its free it will be overloaded |
| 15:32.43 | Gnarfoz | (there's almost zero in Germany, thanks to legal encumbrances) |
| 15:33.38 | Gnarfoz | nah, while at the con I'll probably be fine, I was thinking more of the look places up, pre-cache gps maps etc |
| 15:34.13 | Arrowmaster | the sheraton hotel has free wifi in the lobby |
| 15:34.41 | Arrowmaster | i stayed there last time and used it |
| 15:34.44 | Ermad | Gnarfoz: I just got AIO and I have been really happy with it. |
| 15:34.56 | Gnarfoz | either Aio's store locator is broken, or they have 0 shops in the entire US |
| 15:34.57 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 15:35.14 | Gnarfoz | Ermad: cool (: which plan & phone have you got, if I might ask? |
| 15:35.30 | Ermad | iPhone 5s and the 2gb plan |
| 15:36.10 | Ermad | I dont mind 8mbit/s limit at all. since that is more bandwidth then I need for my phone |
| 15:36.36 | Gnarfoz | yeah, I was just a bit confused by it, I doubt it's going to be an issue at all |
| 15:36.51 | Ermad | and I live in a congested market (NYC), so I am happy if I can actually get 8 mbit/s |
| 15:36.58 | Gnarfoz | right on, there's an Aio store one block from our motel |
| 15:37.18 | Arrowmaster | the con will be congested too |
| 15:39.37 | Ackis | is it sexual harassment if the ladies I work with come to me to open things for them? |
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| 15:40.41 | Gnarfoz | Ackis: depends on what the things are... their pants? |
| 15:40.41 | TC-Work | Is the opening sexual in nature? |
| 15:40.52 | Ackis | nope |
| 15:41.06 | TC-Work | Then no. Sexist maybe, but not that. |
| 15:47.28 | Ackis | isn't being sexist a form of sexual harassment? |
| 15:48.34 | Gnarfoz | the other way around maybe |
| 15:48.36 | Gnarfoz | if anything |
| 15:51.30 | TC-Work | Sexism is gender based discrimination. That's not harrasment per se. |
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| 16:06.46 | TC-Work | How close to the wow tcg is hearthstone? |
| 16:07.42 | jnwhiteh | jleclanche: I have an <a> with two <spans> inside it. The first span is an background image, the second is text. I want the text to get the text decoration but not the image. Any simple way to make sure that happens? |
| 16:08.25 | nevcairiel | disable decoration for images in css? |
| 16:09.08 | jnwhiteh | nevcairiel: its not an image, it's a span with a background image |
| 16:09.21 | nevcairiel | well then disable it for the first span |
| 16:09.25 | AcidWeb | TC-Work: Quite far away. |
| 16:09.35 | nevcairiel | or put a class on it that disables it |
| 16:09.49 | TC-Work | AcidWeb: Thanks. |
| 16:09.51 | jnwhiteh | nevcairiel: .. you don't think that I've tried that? |
| 16:10.06 | nevcairiel | from your question, no =) |
| 16:11.11 | TC-Work | cant you put in a div around the second span and apply the decoraiton to that? Or are we not talking web stuff? |
| 16:11.19 | AcidWeb | TC-Work: I dont remeber TCG rules but I remember it was another MtG-like clone. And Heartstone is really diffrent than MtG. |
| 16:11.49 | TC-Work | AcidWeb: Since I play a lot of MtG, I would have to disagree that it is 'really different' |
| 16:12.31 | jnwhiteh | TC-Work: we are but i'm having issue getting the right selector |
| 16:12.36 | TC-Work | I could have played it with no tutorial just from knowing magic. |
| 16:12.41 | jnwhiteh | it seems a:hover span.foo { might work } |
| 16:12.52 | jnwhiteh | all other incantations didn't work as expected |
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| 16:12.57 | jnwhiteh | since the :hover is more specific >< |
| 16:13.01 | foxlit | adjust expectations. |
| 16:13.17 | AcidWeb | TC-Work: Yep. Still it have much less common with MtG than TCG. |
| 16:13.29 | foxlit | if you've got a:hover {text-decoration: underline} somewhere, you're screwed. |
| 16:14.02 | jnwhiteh | foxlit: yeah and I'm not the one setting it |
| 16:14.07 | jnwhiteh | and it does appear that I am screwed :P |
| 16:15.10 | nevcairiel | !important to the rescue? |
| 16:15.18 | nevcairiel | i know its evil, but sometimes you just gotta use it :P |
| 16:15.24 | foxlit | [and that's not a selector specificity thing -- it's just that the outer element applies decoration to everything inside it; stuff inside doesn't get a vote] |
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| 16:15.37 | jnwhiteh | nevcairiel: nope |
| 16:15.45 | jnwhiteh | hence why i'ma sking |
| 16:15.49 | jnwhiteh | foxlit: that's what I suspected |
| 16:16.10 | nevcairiel | hm ok if the outside overrules you, you are lost, css doesnt sadly have selectors that go like "if i have this child" :p |
| 16:16.41 | jnwhiteh | I can disable it for the a and then re-enable it for the text span |
| 16:16.43 | jnwhiteh | that seems to work, at least |
| 16:17.57 | foxlit | if all your links have the same a/span structure, sure. |
| 16:18.25 | jnwhiteh | in this scope they do |
| 16:21.24 | pompy | http://www.bbcamerica.com/anglophenia/2013/10/doctor-50th-anniversary-special-bbc-america-announces-3d-screening-events/ |
| 16:26.32 | pompy | tickets went on sale 3.5 hrs ago and the site still isnt loading |
| 16:28.41 | Mihau | Site loads fine for me. |
| 16:29.07 | pompy | not that site |
| 16:29.14 | pompy | www.fathomevents.com noted in the article |
| 16:29.32 | nevcairiel | cinema in my city was nearly instantly sold out =p |
| 16:29.57 | Mihau | That site loads fine for me, pompy. |
| 16:30.19 | TC-Work | fathom loads for me as well |
| 16:30.35 | pompy | hmmmm |
| 16:31.37 | nevcairiel | ah the cinema opened a second screening in another room that has still seats |
| 16:31.47 | nevcairiel | guess they didnt expect that much so they only had one at first :p |
| 16:37.15 | pompy | apparently bbc partnered with IGN for this event. |
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| 16:56.19 | kd3|hate`net | oh gods above. are all of the ptr patches going to be 3 gigs now? |
| 17:02.11 | TC-Work | It just sounds like something is in the works. |
| 17:05.05 | Maldivia | kd3: only the important ones :) |
| 17:24.44 | harl | why am i getting disconnected from the server all along sometimes when certain stuff happens, like e.g. when something ocludes the camera. not a graphical bug, just something that's very close to the camera and bam, disconnected. |
| 17:25.39 | harl | it's not reproducible but it happens frequently when the camera's got to be adjusted in a very short amount of time |
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| 17:33.58 | Seerah | harl: are you running windows 8.1? |
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| 17:49.22 | harl | no |
| 17:55.32 | Neffi | Are your drivers up to date? |
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| 17:57.09 | Neffi | damn http://raytracey.blogspot.com/2013/10/brigade-3.html |
| 17:57.38 | Neffi | I'm gonna go ahead and call it: when this shit's released, it's gonna be the most impressive game engine release in a long time |
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| 17:59.26 | Neffi | They recently added physically-based skyboxes. They can trace the real position of the sun, and create realistic realtime skies, no prebaked skybox |
| 17:59.27 | nevcairiel | unless it gets a lot faster until then, we'll all need to pimp our systems up with dual gpus though |
| 17:59.54 | Neffi | Sam Lapere says the ARM CPUs attached to Maxwell will allow them to do a couple interesting things |
| 18:00.16 | nevcairiel | speculation, though |
| 18:00.36 | Neffi | The videos you see there went totally overkill on the materials engine to show off its new capabilities. That's why there's so much noise, even with dual Titans. Previous videos have shown pretty good speed results with more plausible scenes. |
| 18:00.57 | Neffi | It'll obviously be a few generations before hardware horsepower is there to do this on mid-range setups, but so far it's panning out |
| 18:01.22 | harl | yes, my drivers are mostly up to date, as far as they are available for this laptop. also, it's not just this machine having those disconnects. |
| 18:02.46 | Neffi | It's pretty crazy though. He's saying Brigade now has Octane Render's material system. Octane Render is used pretty widely in professional movie CGI. |
| 18:02.56 | Neffi | And Brigade is aiming for realtime |
| 18:04.46 | harl | gotta love those developments |
| 18:06.00 | Neffi | I'm a little disappointed, because though they haven't said it outright, they've hinted that lens effects are being done post-process. I expected them to model a real lens in the tracing. |
| 18:06.14 | Neffi | But it doesn't seem out of Brigade's capability. |
| 18:06.35 | harl | maybe in a few months from now? |
| 18:06.58 | Neffi | Just a few generations ago they were using pre-baked skyboxes. Now they don't. |
| 18:07.13 | Neffi | Probably |
| 18:07.29 | Neffi | Sam in particular really wants to shoot for true photorealism without having to do clever tricks |
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| 18:27.15 | pompy | Arrow|tablet: http://us.battle.net/blizzcon/en/blog/11383394/inside-the-blizzcon-2013-goody-bag-10-25-2013 |
| 18:30.34 | Arrow|tablet | Can't look now |
| 18:30.51 | Fisker | sure you can |
| 18:30.55 | Fisker | you chose not to |
| 18:30.56 | Fisker | aww |
| 18:31.09 | Fisker | missed the she-devil again |
| 18:31.10 | Fisker | damn work |
| 18:32.01 | harl | blah? |
| 18:32.11 | Fisker | blah indeed |
| 18:32.35 | harl | but why? |
| 18:32.57 | Fisker | because work sucks? |
| 18:37.09 | Arrow|tablet | I'm trying to change ownership of 23gigs of files over the network and it might have locked up |
| 18:39.39 | TC-Work | Give it time |
| 18:40.06 | TC-Work | Also the size of the file would not be the issue, the number of them would. |
| 18:40.27 | Arrow|tablet | I'll look up the cmdline way to do it locally |
| 18:40.44 | Arrow|tablet | I was only trying to add an inherited permission |
| 18:43.50 | Neffi | "Fill out the form below or share on Facebook or Twitter to receive your copy of the Disk Benchmark." |
| 18:43.54 | Neffi | wtf is this? |
| 18:44.13 | kd3 | time to nuke and pave |
| 18:44.16 | Neffi | Let's stop using ATTO as a reference benchmark |
| 18:44.19 | Neffi | Tis a silly program |
| 18:45.05 | Arrow|tablet | Well that didn't work, switching to my admin account locally to try |
| 18:59.09 | Neffi | So this USB stick came pre-formatted at 16K block size. I reformatted it at 4K and it cut the write speeds roughly in half. |
| 18:59.21 | Neffi | Is it a bad idea for the longevity of the drive to keep it at 16K? |
| 19:00.01 | Neffi | I'm mostly going to be using this to (1) write OS install ISOs onto and (2) backup data on the computers I'm doing the install on |
| 19:01.03 | Neffi | It's an 8GB drive, so putting an ISO on it and then backing up small amounts of data on top of that, I'll probably commonly fill it ~60%. |
| 19:01.44 | Primer | Even if it is a bad idea, it's what...$10? |
| 19:01.48 | Primer | So who cares |
| 19:02.05 | Neffi | Normally I'd say the same thing |
| 19:02.13 | Neffi | But that $10 out of my pocket made a difference =/ |
| 19:02.42 | Neffi | I chose it specifically for being cheap and reputable |
| 19:12.42 | ccox | Neffi - set it back to 16k for the speed, but even at full speed you aren't likely to wear it out in the next 8 years or so |
| 19:12.59 | ccox | (by which time it will have gone through the wash and needed to be replaced anyway) |
| 19:13.19 | ccox | (though some of mine have survived multiple trips through the laundry) |
| 19:14.33 | Arrow|tablet | I still have my 32mb drive but I killed it years ago trying to make it bootable |
| 19:17.26 | Neffi | I usually don't care, but I just had a Super Talent drive crap out on me after ... maybe a year? |
| 19:17.50 | Neffi | I didn't think even cheap ones were that bad. And Super Talent may not be great, but it's not generic shit. |
| 19:18.08 | Maldivia | well, what's the average size of files you're going to put on it? And how many files? |
| 19:18.29 | Neffi | I used it mostly for Win7 ISOs and Linux LiveCD ISOs |
| 19:18.51 | Neffi | But in between that, I would keep about a dozen files on it, no more than 20 MB each -- school shit |
| 19:19.31 | Maldivia | well, if you aren't keeping a lot of tiny files on it, then why change the block size? |
| 19:20.01 | Neffi | I guess just instinct to reset it back to something standard |
| 19:22.48 | ccox | Also, for small stuff, I just use dropbox. |
| 19:24.17 | Neffi | Well I'm gonna be moving to Linux soon and I don't wanna drop my files and redownload. |
| 19:24.54 | Neffi | I could always keep my 2nd partition as NTFS (D: where I store all my shit), install Linux on the first partition, move stuff over to the first drive, and then reformat D: as ext4 and move once again |
| 19:24.58 | Neffi | But that'a a total bitch |
| 19:26.50 | Neffi | Shit like this is precisely why I want an NAS with ZFS on it |
| 19:27.20 | Neffi | Because I always manage to fuck something up and end up nuking the partition table or some crap |
| 19:30.58 | Ackis | anyone here heard of "Archer" software for GRC? Or used it in any form? |
| 19:31.35 | Maldivia | Neffi: As for the 16k blocks -- it could be that the underlying flash uses 16k pages? |
| 19:31.58 | Neffi | Isn't that incredibly rare? |
| 19:32.20 | Ressy | Ackis... go implement the fix in #arl. |
| 19:32.36 | Maldivia | Neffi: dunno - could be a way to simplify the controller, by having fewer pages to control |
| 19:32.47 | Maldivia | (making it cheaper) |
| 19:34.33 | Ackis | Ressy: I don't even have git/svn installed here at work |
| 19:35.17 | Ressy | fail |
| 19:35.27 | Ressy | I'll do it when I get home then. :P |
| 19:36.00 | Ackis | I don't even think I reinstalled it on my home machine either |
| 19:36.00 | Neffi | It seems some newer flash devices actually do use 16K page size |
| 19:37.16 | Maldivia | which would explain the performance loss when reformatting it to 4k |
| 19:38.22 | Maldivia | could always mount it and check sysfs info? |
| 19:38.23 | Neffi | Quite good info on this stuff http://wiki.laptop.org/go/How_to_Damage_a_FLASH_Storage_Device |
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| 19:42.12 | Semlar | why do i need a tutorial on how to damage flash drives |
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| 19:42.26 | Neffi | Because it's a good description of why this damage happens |
| 19:42.42 | Semlar | what do you have against flash drives neffi |
| 19:42.57 | Semlar | LEAVE THEM ALONE |
| 19:43.00 | Neffi | They're evil and must be abolished |
| 19:49.19 | bleeter | I think you're colnfusing them with Fisker there |
| 19:51.19 | Neffi | strong possibility |
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| 19:59.13 | Arrow|tablet | I had somebody cancel her appoint for the 30th and call in twice already asking t |
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| 20:00.42 | Arrow|tablet | To be rescheduled, just emailed her saying she can have November 1st or wait till December 4th because I'm booked solid in between |
| 20:13.28 | mikma | http://imgur.com/gallery/gyIEf |
| 20:13.30 | fewyn | lol |
| 20:14.28 | mikma | haste: http://imgur.com/gallery/SzM98GL |
| 20:15.15 | airtonix | any bizdev people in australia here? |
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| 20:27.32 | mikma | oh snap, it's cog |
| 20:27.39 | mikma | err, run. |
| 20:39.46 | Neffi | http://i.imgur.com/sdzvx6m.gif <- this owl's a fucking ninja |
| 20:44.15 | TC-Work | Heh, got a card up to 103 C doing a stress test. |
| 20:44.32 | kd3 | color me somewhere between impressed and alarmed |
| 20:45.41 | TC-Work | Yea, alas I do think it is past the RMA stage. |
| 20:46.18 | Neffi | http://i.imgur.com/eDiGHBN.gif ^_^ |
| 20:46.34 | Neffi | Old card? Might need new paste/pads |
| 20:46.40 | Neffi | And a good cleaning |
| 20:46.55 | Neffi | throw some GELID GC-Extreme on that heatsink |
| 20:47.56 | TC-Work | It's not worth it. |
| 20:48.40 | Neffi | Well not if you're not using the card |
| 20:49.05 | Neffi | I've been thinking of repasting my laptop because I suspect the paste went bad rather quick |
| 20:49.23 | Neffi | It needs a fan underneath to keep cool if I peg both cores, or peg the GPU at >90% |
| 20:51.16 | Neffi | Next step is putting together a couple fans the same size as the ones in there that can blow much more air at higher pressure |
| 20:51.33 | Neffi | But I'm wary of doing that, because I might fuck something up. At least, I might end up drawing too much power out of the fan headers. |
| 20:52.38 | Neffi | I knew there was a reason why I didn't want to buy a laptop, but I'd forgotten it when I needed a machine for college =( |
| 20:53.47 | pompy | finally got my Hearthstone beta key today! |
| 20:57.26 | airtonix | Neffi: just make sure you remember that Apple isn't going to magically change that aspect. |
| 20:57.37 | airtonix | plenty of overheating macbook pros |
| 20:57.59 | Neffi | What does Apple have to do with my Thinkpad? |
| 20:58.05 | airtonix | lot's of snobby unhelpful "geniuses" |
| 20:58.21 | Neffi | The same thing can be said about the "PC" space |
| 20:58.21 | airtonix | Neffi: you might fall prey to unrealistic thinking |
| 20:58.42 | Neffi | IME the bell curve of technological competence is quite ugly in the middle |
| 20:58.50 | airtonix | Neffi: you might walk within range of a reality distortion generator |
| 20:59.14 | Neffi | Wouldn't want that. I might look at an Apple product and actually see something of value there. |
| 20:59.16 | airtonix | that's what those glass covers are on the front of the apples stores |
| 20:59.37 | airtonix | they "invented that shit yo" |
| 20:59.46 | Neffi | We better be careful |
| 20:59.57 | Neffi | We're gonna alienate ourselves from the Apple folks in here |
| 21:00.36 | airtonix | i think they're too mature for that |
| 21:01.10 | Neffi | mayhaps |
| 21:01.21 | Neffi | I bet they don't even use words like mayhaps |
| 21:02.09 | Neffi | Switching to a client with no spellcheck has really widened my voculariam |
| 21:02.28 | Neffi | Of course it may have pusheded it a bit out of bounds of realitous |
| 21:16.58 | ccox | Neffi - nah, the Apple folks in here are even more cynical... |
| 21:17.32 | airtonix | ain't no zealots in here |
| 21:17.45 | airtonix | not even shirik |
| 21:18.48 | Neffi | I don't know man |
| 21:18.54 | Neffi | Shirik seems like quite the C++ zealot |
| 21:19.03 | TC-Work | Iriel does the mac thing |
| 21:19.14 | TC-Work | Though not a zealot |
| 21:19.39 | Neffi | Sometimes I want to show Shirik my C++ class projects where I did all my work strictly in the C subset when I could get away with it |
| 21:19.40 | TC-Work | And I am going to get an mbp |
| 21:19.56 | Neffi | He might ban me tho |
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| 21:40.12 | bleeter | spams Ackis |
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| 21:47.46 | Ackis | viscous attack: http://24.media.tumblr.com/4ee3b2a2e0ad4b63b2bf2fb80a930a27/tumblr_mv5k4kmdhh1qdlh1io1_250.gif :D |
| 21:56.47 | fewyn | anyone having issues accessing google? |
| 21:57.17 | Ressy | nope |
| 21:57.43 | Semlar | they had the entrance locked down pretty good but i managed to slip in the back |
| 21:58.08 | TC-Work | So you were who I saw slipping over the wall |
| 21:58.15 | Semlar | i've been made! |
| 21:58.18 | Semlar | ABORT! |
| 22:01.28 | ccox | fewyn: nope, no problems with any of the google services |
| 22:02.53 | fewyn | weird |
| 22:03.42 | Semlar | down for me |
| 22:03.44 | Semlar | THANKS BRIGHTHOUSE |
| 22:04.23 | Neffi | Semlar: Did you get the goods? |
| 22:04.34 | Semlar | i snagged some swag |
| 22:05.03 | Neffi | What the hell am I supposed to do with swagger? |
| 22:05.17 | Neffi | Dammit man, I didn't send you in there for a Christmas wreath |
| 22:05.53 | Semlar | :( |
| 22:06.29 | Neffi | lol |
| 22:06.44 | Neffi | swag: "an ornamental festoon of flowers, fruit, and greenery" |
| 22:06.56 | Neffi | Now, I had no idea it also meant: "money or goods taken by a thief or burglar." |
| 22:07.02 | Neffi | So I forgive you |
| 22:07.04 | airtonix | Neffi: you mean http://swagger.wordnik.com/ ? |
| 22:07.05 | Neffi | Now give up the goods |
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| 22:07.35 | fewyn | google is just being extremely slow for some reason weird |
| 22:07.44 | Neffi | No issues with it on my end |
| 22:07.50 | Neffi | Probably something local to you |
| 22:08.38 | Semlar | thankfully i have a vpn, to sweden! |
| 22:09.55 | Neffi | Pick me up some Swedish Fish while you're there |
| 22:10.05 | fewyn | guess i'll use bing instead! |
| 22:10.14 | Semlar | you monster |
| 22:10.39 | fewyn | bing loaded instantly for me |
| 22:10.43 | fewyn | NOT MY FAULT |
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| 22:11.17 | Semlar | corporate sabotage |
| 22:11.32 | fewyn | probably just some routing issues |
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