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| 00:07.38 | Shirik | Iriel: I actually think MIDI is a really impressive system |
| 00:07.46 | Shirik | the number of things they have to consider |
| 00:07.57 | Shirik | I still don't understand how they handle delay compensation |
| 00:08.40 | Shirik | like my keyboard gets a synchronization signal from the computer, auto-plays certain notes, sends them back, and they show up on the computer in-sync, even though there MUST have been a delay on the way back, obviously |
| 00:08.59 | Iriel | There's a whole timing thing |
| 00:09.09 | pompy1 | prolly old news in this channel but https://www.facebook.com/Malwarebytes/posts/10151947920181639 tisk Adobe |
| 00:09.24 | Iriel | I wrote a bunch of midi device drivers once, but it was long enough ago I forget most of the details |
| 00:09.33 | Iriel | Adobe got my credit card number changed, bastards. |
| 00:09.46 | Iriel | (i.e. my bank freaked out and decided to re-issue my card defensively) |
| 00:09.47 | Shirik | every so often I consider how cool it would be to work for someone like Ableton |
| 00:09.58 | Shirik | but I like what I do right now |
| 00:10.59 | Iriel | Shirik: some of it is in here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MIDI_timecode |
| 00:11.44 | Iriel | And of course if the device loops back the timecode to the sender, it can re-correlate the signals into a coherent view. |
| 00:15.19 | Iriel | Aha, I found the hardware spec quote I was thinking of: People who do know about such things seem to either have giggling or gagging fits when they see it, depending on their dispositions, saying things like "I haven't seen current loop since the days of the old teletypes" |
| 00:15.25 | Iriel | Also: http://www.ibiblio.org/emusic-l/info-docs-FAQs/MIDI-doc/MIDI-Primer.txt |
| 00:16.17 | Iriel | See REAL TIME MESSAGES |
| 00:17.19 | Iriel | In the end my personal project was derailed by a betrayal from the firmware of my midi card (Not handling one very important state transition properly), and life. |
| 00:17.37 | Shirik | :( |
| 00:17.50 | Iriel | But that was almost 20 years ago. |
| 00:18.02 | Iriel | (and THAT makes me feel old) |
| 00:24.41 | Iriel | Shirik: did you watch the Bot and Dolly video I'd posted a link to the other day? |
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| 00:26.45 | Iriel | (because they're hiring and might be the kind of fun you'd expect from Ableton et al - I dunno) |
| 00:27.54 | pompy1 | http://www.greatbighornet.com/2013/10/asian-giant-hornets-firefighters-in.html :o |
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| 00:34.48 | kd3 | an hour later and traceroutes get past the second hop after my modem |
| 00:34.49 | kd3 | grr |
| 00:35.37 | TC-Work | Congratulations, AOL is faster for you. |
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| 01:23.51 | Arrow|tablet | We finished the Jameson and now have a bottle of Concannon |
| 01:24.04 | Arrow|tablet | I'm fucking drunk |
| 01:24.17 | kd3 | whee |
| 01:25.36 | Arrow|tablet | I've had two Stella's and the rest has been whiskey shots |
| 01:28.20 | kd3 | good day at work? bad day at work? |
| 01:29.07 | Arrow|tablet | Birthday, not mine |
| 01:29.20 | kd3 | ah. guess that counts as a good day, then |
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| 01:50.54 | Arrow|phone | I'm drunk and lying on the floor petting a dog |
| 01:52.36 | Arrow|phone | And I gave somebody $20 to get a Serbian wine or whatever they find at the store |
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| 01:56.02 | Arrow|phone | I don't think I cabln get up to move to the other Ioom with everyone else |
| 01:57.25 | TC-Work | Eh, you are typing to clearly to be drunk. |
| 01:57.30 | TC-Work | too* |
| 01:59.29 | Arrow|tablet | Spellcheck |
| 01:59.56 | Arrow|tablet | We have bistra slivovitz now! |
| 02:00.28 | TC-Work | And capitalization, and bangs. |
| 02:00.48 | Arrow|tablet | Irc client does caps |
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| 02:07.25 | Clamsoda | Good evening. |
| 02:07.49 | Hazal | Good evening. |
| 02:07.55 | Clamsoda | How are you? |
| 02:08.17 | Hazal | Fine. Thinking of what I should work on implementing into my addon |
| 02:08.28 | Clamsoda | Glad to hear; what AddOn? |
| 02:08.35 | Hazal | An unpublished one |
| 02:09.12 | Hazal | I have shown a few pictures of it on warcraftpets, since it's for pet battling |
| 02:09.24 | Hazal | I can give you a link if you want to check it out :) |
| 02:09.44 | Grivvel | Please do! |
| 02:09.45 | Clamsoda | Sure ^o^. |
| 02:09.50 | Hazal | http://www.warcraftpets.com/community/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=6766 |
| 02:10.17 | Clamsoda | Love the tier 3; I have the full set on my paladin. |
| 02:11.26 | Hazal | It's not my gear. It's generic characters you see when you do pvp pet battles |
| 02:11.28 | Clamsoda | Seems nifty. The only pet battling I have done was to farm lesser charms in Stormwind in 5.1, but I am sure such an AddOn will be useful for those that are more competitive. |
| 02:11.29 | Grivvel | Hazal: Cool idea for an AddOn |
| 02:11.40 | Clamsoda | Ohh I see. Oh well. |
| 02:12.05 | Grivvel | Hazal: You should also make an option to display the abilities in the tooltip (the way PvE abiltiies display) instead of an entire additional UI |
| 02:12.27 | Grivvel | Hazal: So just have "?????" before it knows what the ability is, then change to the ability name once it's sure |
| 02:12.28 | Hazal | Not sure how to even do that |
| 02:12.57 | Clamsoda | http://wowprogramming.com/docs/widgets/GameTooltip |
| 02:13.11 | Grivvel | I think the pet battle tooltips actually use fake tooltips |
| 02:13.38 | Hazal | But the idea has crossed my mind. But since I have aimed this at PvP pet battles. And I want to know which abilities the enemy CAN have that would not really fulfil my "requirement" |
| 02:13.58 | Grivvel | Looks like PetbattleUnitTooltip in Blizzard_PetBattleUI.lua |
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| 02:15.11 | Grivvel | You could probably do it trivially by hooking C_PetBattles.GetAbilityInfo and actually returning data |
| 02:15.26 | Hazal | What? |
| 02:15.46 | Hazal | That doesn't work in PvP anymore |
| 02:16.01 | Hazal | They changed that in 5.2. That's the entire reason why I'm making this addon |
| 02:16.10 | Grivvel | Right. "Hooking" is where you replace someone else's function (usually Blizzard's) with one of your own |
| 02:16.44 | Grivvel | So you could just do C_PetBattles.GetAbilityInfo = function(owner, idx, i) return DataYouIntuitied end |
| 02:17.08 | Grivvel | And potentially save off the original function and call that if you don't have any data |
| 02:17.39 | Hazal | C_PetBattles.GetAbilityInfo does not work in PvP battles. |
| 02:18.01 | Grivvel | Right. But you can replace it with a function that does (once you've figured out what the ability is) |
| 02:18.52 | Hazal | I think I get what you mean |
| 02:19.38 | Hazal | I've never tried doing any "Hooking" before. But I'd prefer to do other changes before those tooltips |
| 02:20.07 | Grivvel | A simple example would be: local un = UnitName; UnitName = function(unit) local n = un(); if n == "Hazal" then return "HAZAL!" else return n end end |
| 02:20.43 | Grivvel | So something like that would make anywhere in the game that tries to display your name display something else instead (rather than you having to try to find all those places manually) |
| 02:21.02 | Grivvel | Hazal: Yeah, sounds like it isn't a feature you'd want anyway. But if you wanted it, that's a way to do it! |
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| 02:25.23 | Seerah | don't pre-hook unless necessary though |
| 02:25.32 | Hazal | Is there any good guides to how you make an option menu inside the Game Menu(ESC)-> interface -> Addons |
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| 02:25.58 | Seerah | on wowpedia or use ace config |
| 02:27.43 | Haakkon | Anyone know how you can get a reference to a texture that's a child of a frame? |
| 02:28.10 | Seerah | frame:GetChildren() |
| 02:29.01 | Neffi | A texture? frame:GetRegions() |
| 02:29.34 | Seerah | sorry.... >< that's what I meant >< playing Hearthstone |
| 02:30.21 | Torhal | steals Seerah's betahs! |
| 02:30.47 | Seerah | NO! MINEZ! |
| 02:31.15 | Hazal | I feel kinda guilty for having had the beta for about a month now and I have only played it for about 8 hours |
| 02:31.17 | Hazal | Tops |
| 02:31.38 | Seerah | well, they wiped it, so you gotta restart and build up again |
| 02:31.52 | Torhal | ಠ_ಠ |
| 02:32.31 | Seerah | they gave in-game gold credits, though, if you spent any money in the store |
| 02:32.46 | Hazal | I spent too much on that store :) |
| 02:35.31 | Haakkon | thanks GetRegions works |
| 02:36.00 | Haakkon | weird that setting a parentKey on a texture in xml just stores the string of the textures location |
| 02:36.19 | Haakkon | I thought I could get a reference using that |
| 02:36.59 | Primer | sigh...wow performance in wine sucks ass |
| 02:37.08 | Primer | I really thought this new machine would make a big difference |
| 02:37.13 | Hazal | That's why I use windows |
| 02:37.22 | Primer | but I'm in AV and I'm getting like 3 FPS |
| 02:37.33 | Primer | I only have Linux at work |
| 02:37.38 | kd3 | wow works fine in wine |
| 02:37.51 | kd3 | what video card/driver are you using? |
| 02:38.24 | Primer | now I'm wondering if there's something wrong with the config |
| 02:38.25 | kd3 | also, what version of wine? |
| 02:38.28 | Primer | nvidia, of course |
| 02:38.34 | Primer | whatever comes with mint 15 |
| 02:38.37 | Primer | 1.6 I believe |
| 02:38.55 | Primer | wine1.6 1.7.1-actually1.6-0ubuntu1 |
| 02:39.00 | Primer | is what it's reporting |
| 02:40.52 | Primer | None of my cores are pegged |
| 02:41.59 | Primer | but I can't believe an nvidia 650 can't handle 1920x1080 with all the tweaks mostly turned down |
| 02:43.56 | Primer | shit really falls apart when there's a lot of action |
| 02:45.19 | Primer | kd3: Do you use wine for wow? |
| 02:45.34 | kd3 | I have since, oh... 1.8 |
| 02:46.05 | kd3 | only slowdowns I get are in raids with mass aoe happening |
| 02:46.21 | kd3 | 660ti, 3570k, 16 gigs of ram, running off an ssd, etc... |
| 02:46.37 | kd3 | are you using the binary blob or noveau for your nvidia driver? |
| 02:46.53 | Primer | what rez? |
| 02:46.59 | Primer | of course I'm using binary |
| 02:47.02 | kd3 | 1680x1050 |
| 02:47.12 | Primer | You have it set to use opengl? |
| 02:47.24 | Primer | I mean, I know it ultimately uses opengl |
| 02:47.48 | kd3 | nope, d3d9 |
| 02:48.09 | Primer | right now I can engage some mobs in AV and I enter combat and the FPS drops to 0 |
| 02:48.18 | Primer | I'm gonna try d3d9 then |
| 02:48.42 | kd3 | here's my config.wtf http://dpaste.com/1406326/ |
| 02:49.09 | Primer | thanks |
| 02:49.39 | Primer | fucking AV turtle...sigh |
| 02:49.52 | kd3 | it's not a proper av if it doesn't last all week |
| 02:50.52 | Seerah | ^^ |
| 02:53.03 | Primer | this just has to be a video bottleneck |
| 02:53.25 | Primer | CPU meter shows the cores' load going DOWN when the FPS drops |
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| 02:54.07 | Primer | as soon as combat drops, even when there's a ton of people, the FPS stabilizes |
| 02:54.11 | Neffi | Primer: Using D3D or OpenGL? |
| 02:54.36 | kd3 | if he's using my config.wtf, he's using d3d |
| 02:54.46 | Neffi | Use OpenGL on *nix |
| 02:54.57 | kd3 | I get way better performance with the d3d9 driver these days |
| 02:55.11 | kd3 | wow's opengl pipeline isn't the most efficient |
| 02:55.13 | Neffi | Your FPS can be hgiher with OpenGL on Linux than D3D on Windows, depending on config. But D3D on Linux will always be a performance loss |
| 02:55.17 | Gnarfoz | sounds like you have the showincomingheals cvar thing |
| 02:55.18 | Primer | well, I'm just waiting for this AV to end |
| 02:55.25 | Gnarfoz | not related to cpu or gpu |
| 02:55.33 | Gnarfoz | if it's only in combat |
| 02:56.18 | Gnarfoz | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/9948004811?page=1#12 |
| 02:56.27 | Primer | Gnarfoz: I can't imagine it's a network bottleneck |
| 02:56.36 | Gnarfoz | I said nothing about network |
| 02:56.50 | Gnarfoz | it's a bug, plain and simple, if it is what I just linked |
| 02:57.03 | Neffi | That's a very strange bug |
| 02:57.08 | Gnarfoz | indeed it is |
| 02:57.11 | kd3 | wow does very strange bugs |
| 02:57.27 | kd3 | I can only imagine the spaghetti code after a decade of development |
| 02:57.53 | Hazal | Time to open 80 packs in hearthstone :O |
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| 04:45.18 | Shirik | Thunder_Child watching worlds? |
| 04:45.27 | Thunder_Child | Shirik: Yup |
| 04:45.37 | Shirik | Faker my man |
| 04:45.43 | Shirik | also https://skydrive.live.com/redir?page=view&resid=C3E7B19018785D85!138&authkey=!AHTtQFl3d6eFGkY |
| 04:45.53 | Shirik | a little fantasy contest going on |
| 04:45.56 | Thunder_Child | He was indeed impressive |
| 04:50.33 | Shirik | he almost lost last game |
| 04:50.36 | Shirik | by score |
| 04:50.43 | Shirik | the one kill he got on whites pushed him ahead |
| 05:10.33 | Trela | My computer has randomly started doing something incredibly convenient that I can not explain. Open a video, it pauses any music playing. Open a new tab with YouTube, it pauses existing YouTube players. O_o It just... started doing it. I have no idea. |
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| 05:38.52 | Thunder_Child | Shirik: Damn fine game |
| 05:38.59 | Shirik | I feel bad for piglet |
| 05:39.01 | Shirik | no penta :( |
| 05:39.01 | Thunder_Child | I think piglet got mvp for that game |
| 05:39.05 | Shirik | oh totally |
| 05:39.08 | Shirik | he was wrecking face |
| 05:42.51 | airtonix | http://www.reddit.com/r/AdviceAnimals/comments/1nr3lo/scumbag_congresswoman_renee_ellmers/ |
| 05:42.55 | airtonix | yay amurica |
| 05:43.07 | Fisker | hey Shirik |
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| 05:56.41 | Fisker | ;( |
| 06:01.18 | Thunder_Child | Don;t mind him Fisker, it's an important game. |
| 06:01.21 | Thunder_Child | Don't* |
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| 06:27.55 | Shirik | whooooooooo |
| 06:29.18 | Thunder_Child | MEh, that last game was not entertaining. |
| 06:29.21 | Thunder_Child | meh* |
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| 07:14.08 | Shirik | yeah I agree Thunder_Child |
| 07:14.10 | Shirik | Thunder_Child |
| 07:14.12 | Shirik | come play with us |
| 07:14.13 | Shirik | we need a 10th |
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| 08:04.13 | VIad | haven't played in so long that when I debug my addon now I notice luac.out for the first time :P |
| 08:09.59 | Primer | Anyone know of a tooltip addon that can change anchor points based on combat? |
| 08:10.28 | Primer | I really figured that tinytip would do this...but it doesn't. I really like my tooltips to follow the mouse, but in combat it can be rather annoying |
| 08:11.03 | Primer | There's only an option to hide it in combat |
| 08:23.30 | mikma | that's because the ui gets lock'd down when you enter combat |
| 08:23.34 | mikma | they cannot be moved around |
| 08:24.09 | Neffi | ..? |
| 08:24.14 | Neffi | the tooltip is not protected |
| 08:28.07 | Hazal | Is it possible to have a frame that shows tooltips on mouseover but clicks will go through it? |
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| 08:29.07 | Neffi | Yes |
| 08:29.18 | Neffi | It's a little tricker |
| 08:30.26 | Fisker | hey tharper |
| 08:30.39 | jnwhiteh | hey Fisker |
| 08:30.44 | Neffi | You need to use OnUpdate. Constantly poll myFrame:IsMouseOver(), and show/hide tooltip based on that |
| 08:30.54 | Fisker | where do you live? |
| 08:31.02 | Hazal | Me? |
| 08:31.11 | Hazal | I live in Denmark |
| 08:31.28 | Neffi | so many Nordic people in here |
| 08:31.56 | Fisker | nope Hazal |
| 08:33.30 | Fisker | tsk jnwhiteh |
| 08:35.31 | Hazal | Isn't it a bit late in the US at the moment? |
| 08:35.53 | Fisker | sure |
| 08:36.19 | Neffi | Some might say it's early |
| 08:36.27 | Neffi | I might say don't question when I sleep |
| 08:36.30 | Neffi | =P |
| 08:38.19 | tharper | hey Fisker |
| 08:38.24 | Hazal | What's the battletag spreadsheet for? |
| 08:45.16 | Neffi | Hazal: so we can stalk each other in game |
| 08:45.26 | Hazal | That's cool |
| 08:46.55 | Neffi | hey |
| 08:46.57 | Neffi | stop selecting me |
| 08:47.08 | Neffi | lol |
| 08:47.15 | airtonix | umad? |
| 08:47.29 | Neffi | >_> |
| 08:49.21 | airtonix | by the way old chap, you don't have to take that seriously. |
| 08:49.37 | airtonix | tally ho |
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| 09:46.43 | tharper | Hazal is another danskjävel/ |
| 09:46.49 | tharper | too many |
| 09:54.24 | Hazal | The more the merrier. Right? |
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| 10:40.41 | jleclanche | anyone familiar with scala? |
| 10:55.34 | bleeter | jleclanche: If you're talking the 1990's Amiga thing, it's been a while but sure |
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| 11:06.43 | zenzelezz | bleeter: that was a spreadsheet thing, wasn't it? |
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| 11:44.00 | Neffi | http://i.imgur.com/tQ2gnIR.png |
| 11:53.14 | zenzelezz | sounds reasonable |
| 12:02.57 | foxlit | the goggles, they do nothing :( |
| 12:03.27 | foxlit | [or, in this particular case, horizTile/vertTile on Textures seem to do nothing] |
| 12:19.14 | zenzelezz | what are they supposed to do; specify what happens if they don't fill a frame? |
| 12:20.55 | bleeter | oh, they're still going https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scala,_Inc |
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| 13:07.27 | karl_w_w | I bet #video is familiar with Scala, jleclanche |
| 13:08.05 | foxlit | http://www.go-hero.net/i/tct.png |
| 13:14.25 | zenzelezz | I would venture a guess jleclanche was talking about the language |
| 13:14.45 | foxlit | By the way, that's an addon: http://pastebin.com/pjJ191rJ |
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| 14:01.50 | airtonix | Fisker: http://www.theguardian.com/media/mediamonkeyblog/2013/oct/03/norwegian-tv-knitathon-slow-tv |
| 14:04.21 | airtonix | In February there was a 12-hour programme about a log fire being built and maintained. |
| 14:04.46 | airtonix | i wonder if it was real logs |
| 14:06.05 | zenzelezz | they were |
| 14:07.55 | airtonix | was it commentated? |
| 14:08.06 | airtonix | or just the warm lucious sound of crackling fire |
| 14:08.50 | airtonix | "OHH look this ember is making a break for it, going out in a ..." |
| 14:14.30 | karl_w_w | smuff of poke |
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| 14:30.37 | Industrial | What's a good trade skill to make regular money on the ah with? I wanna see if I can prepare some of the mats needed for leveling it before hand. |
| 14:31.34 | Industrial | jc/inscriotion/alchemy/enchanting? |
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| 14:53.11 | Hazal | You can make gold with all trade skills. And good is really subjective in this case |
| 14:54.36 | zenzelezz | can you still make fortunes selling copper ore? |
| 14:54.53 | Hazal | For example: X player only wants to spend 1 min tops on a tradeskill each day and becomes a transmute master which yields him a great amount of gold for only about a minutes work. While player Z likes to prepare all the good gems for raiding hours where he spends some time undercutting his competition and gets a lot of gold |
| 14:55.27 | Hazal | Yes you still can make quite some gold selling copper ore I believe |
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| 14:58.52 | Hazal | If you're really into gold making I'd suggest you check out the consortium forums and specifically the addon TradeskillMaster, which is a rather advanced addon for goldmaking. |
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| 16:27.02 | pompy1 | http://antandyantertainment.files.wordpress.com/2010/05/snaxxramas_by_kiru1001.jpg |
| 16:30.24 | zenzelezz | heh |
| 16:30.35 | zenzelezz | sadly, that's almost what Naxx in WotLK felt like compared to the original |
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| 17:00.35 | Arrowmaster | so true |
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| 17:22.48 | jleclanche | As the latest good news for Linux gamers is that it appears 2K Games is bringing some of their titles to Linux like Civilization V and XCOM: Enemy Unknown. |
| 17:22.51 | jleclanche | holy hell |
| 17:22.56 | jleclanche | if this happens I love everything |
| 17:24.10 | Arrowmaster | fuck yes |
| 17:24.44 | Kodiack | If WoW had a native Linux client, I would stop using Windows... |
| 17:24.50 | jleclanche | Arrowmaster: and borderlands 2 |
| 17:25.07 | jleclanche | Kodiack: wow is possibly the game that runs the smoothest on wine |
| 17:25.31 | Arrowmaster | Parnic: I LOVE YOU |
| 17:26.04 | Arrowmaster | jleclanche: i started something http://www.reddit.com/r/Games/comments/1nqo15/steam_machines_prototype_details/ccl3guu?context=1 |
| 17:26.27 | jleclanche | haha |
| 17:26.40 | jleclanche | Arrowmaster: i can feel the burn. not just from you, but from the overheating AMDs too. |
| 17:27.02 | jleclanche | (you know, because of driver issues) |
| 17:28.22 | Arrowmaster | people may say AMD is ok now but too many people still have issues for me to change my stance |
| 17:28.43 | jleclanche | "non-propitiatory" |
| 17:28.48 | jleclanche | how does this happen. |
| 17:29.30 | jleclanche | Arrowmaster: to be really fair id have liked amd to sign an exclusivity deal with valve |
| 17:29.38 | jleclanche | wouldve forced them to make better drivers |
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| 17:34.10 | jleclanche | Arrowmaster: .... |
| 17:34.18 | jleclanche | https://pay.reddit.com/r/archlinux/comments/1nsggg/no_journalctl_output_with_regular_user/ |
| 17:34.25 | jleclanche | this post just made me realize wtf was wrong with my setup |
| 17:34.42 | jleclanche | explains why only PA was showing in my journalctl |
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| 18:17.47 | Arrowmaster | i think im finally starting to feel mostly back to normal after last nights drinking |
| 18:17.58 | kd3 | you wake up drunk? |
| 18:18.19 | kd3 | that's my general "I had too much to drink last night" marker |
| 18:18.20 | Arrowmaster | i woke up dizzy and without a headach |
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| 18:18.30 | jleclanche | kd3: im still feeling the effects of last week's drinking |
| 18:18.36 | Arrowmaster | then the dizzyness went away and the headache started |
| 18:18.47 | kd3 | water. lots of water. also, bacon. |
| 18:19.01 | Arrowmaster | ive got a brautwerst right now |
| 18:19.04 | kd3 | yum |
| 18:19.59 | Arrowmaster | i have no idea what happened to my serbian plum brandy from last night, either its still over there and half full or its empty |
| 18:20.30 | Fisker | Man that was the most intense flight I have ever had |
| 18:20.40 | Fisker | also the second |
| 18:20.42 | Fisker | but still |
| 18:20.49 | Arrowmaster | that brandy was strong, had to mix it with something |
| 18:23.22 | Arrowmaster | two bottles of irish whiskey were used exclusively for shots |
| 18:26.19 | foxlit | lua> t={1,2,3,4,5} for i,v in ipairs(t) do if i % 2 == 1 then table.remove(t, i) end print(v) end |
| 18:26.22 | lua_bot | foxlit: 1, 3, 4 |
| 18:26.24 | foxlit | :/ |
| 18:26.40 | kd3 | o_O |
| 18:28.21 | foxlit | not really the semantics I wanted :( |
| 18:28.41 | Fisker | but the semantics you deserved |
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| 18:30.12 | foxlit | Indeed. But how do I fix it, Fisker-san? |
| 18:30.28 | Fisker | Unknown :( |
| 18:32.00 | Maldivia | foxlit: what did you want? |
| 18:32.18 | kd3 | I'd assume {1, 3, 5} |
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| 18:32.32 | foxlit | {1,2,3,4,5}, actually, since that print is where it is. |
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| 18:32.53 | Maldivia | foxlit: but you alter the table, and the same index is never visited twice |
| 18:33.10 | foxlit | yes, that's the problem. I have a backwards for loop now. |
| 18:33.52 | foxlit | if I didn't need it to be an array, for k,v in pairs(t) do if k % 2 == 1 then t[k] = nil end print(v) end would've done what I wanted. |
| 18:34.20 | Maldivia | or you could just do a copy insteaD? |
| 18:35.40 | foxlit | and throw away a perfectly good table? :) |
| 18:36.23 | Maldivia | probably be faster, since you wouldn't have to move the data n/2 times |
| 18:37.06 | foxlit | that discussion is stretching the presented abstraction far beyond what it was intended for :) |
| 18:37.15 | Dagmar | 1. Thank god you can just run _through_ the apple barrels now. |
| 18:37.29 | Dagmar | 2. What the hell is with the alcohol-free beer? |
| 18:37.29 | kd3 | ! |
| 18:37.36 | kd3 | zima? |
| 18:37.53 | Dagmar | That's not alcohol-free, nor is it beer. |
| 18:37.59 | foxlit | the removal action is essentially an error case; it's not supposed to be hit. |
| 18:38.17 | foxlit | there are also additional properties in the table, and copying stuff over is a headache. |
| 18:38.41 | Maldivia | ok, then backwards looking is the way to go :P |
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| 19:22.01 | Semlar | foxlit: you can use a while loop and only increment i when you don't remove the item |
| 19:25.00 | foxlit | Semlar: I was using ipairs. How much do you think I like the while loop solution? |
| 19:25.45 | Semlar | i don't really see how that's a problem |
| 19:26.03 | zenzelezz | well don't be silly you too |
| 19:26.08 | zenzelezz | the solution is obviously XML |
| 19:26.19 | zenzelezz | *two... |
| 19:26.23 | Torhal | forces zenzelezz to use YAML. |
| 19:26.23 | zenzelezz | I blame my friend Morgan |
| 19:26.33 | zenzelezz | Torhal: now you're just being evil :( |
| 19:26.42 | Torhal | :/ |
| 19:33.14 | foxlit | Semlar: basically, I don't like keeping track of the iteration variables manually. It's messy, and I need a local in the parent scope, and it's messy. |
| 19:35.55 | Semlar | oh, well they were considering deprecating ipairs because it was basically pointless |
| 19:36.57 | Semlar | it's probably never going to happen because it's in so much code |
| 19:37.37 | foxlit | hopefully someone rightfully pointed out that it isn't basically pointless, and that was the end of that? |
| 19:37.44 | Semlar | how is it not pointless |
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| 19:37.54 | Semlar | you can loop over an array with a for loop |
| 19:38.01 | foxlit | neither for k,v in pairs nor for i=1,#t do what ipairs does. |
| 19:38.29 | Primer | One thing I like that oqueue does is the additions it makes to the character sheet, the icons that show gems and enchants (or lack thereof) |
| 19:38.38 | Primer | I wish there was a standalone addon that did that |
| 19:38.58 | foxlit | Primer: you now have a mission for the next 30 minutes. Shouldn't be hard :P |
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| 19:39.25 | Primer | foxlit: I don't want to look at that code |
| 19:39.27 | Semlar | what you mean like the armory? |
| 19:39.36 | Semlar | i'm almost positive there's already an addon that does that |
| 19:39.45 | foxlit | then don't. /framestack and add some frames. |
| 19:39.47 | Primer | I wish I knew its name |
| 19:39.52 | Xinhuan | so what does ipairs do that the other options doesn't? |
| 19:40.02 | foxlit | pairs iterates over too much, and so isn't suitable |
| 19:40.12 | foxlit | numeric for doesn't handle removal while iterating. |
| 19:40.28 | Semlar | right.. but you can use a while loop for that |
| 19:40.54 | foxlit | you can use a while loop in place of any for loop |
| 19:41.03 | foxlit | that's not a reason to remove the for loop as being redundant. |
| 19:41.32 | Xinhuan | honestly, i don't think it is that hard if they changed ipairs() to be synthetic sugar, like how all for-loops are just while loops anyway |
| 19:44.21 | Primer | Semlar: I either can't find the proper terms to describe what I want or such an addon doesn't exist |
| 19:44.43 | Iriel | If you just want it to work, you use ipairs,.. If youve got some kind of performance desparation much of the times ipairs logic isn't good enough |
| 19:45.06 | Iriel | (explicitly tracking the number of items in your list is usually the fastest approach if performance is a real concern) |
| 19:45.26 | Iriel | That's been my experience anyway. |
| 19:45.52 | Semlar | i have no idea what it was called but i'm pretty sure i saw an addon at one point that just literally copied the look of the "advanced" armory page |
| 19:46.57 | Semlar | i'm not sure if that's even what you're looking for |
| 19:47.08 | Primer | gems and enchants in the character sheet |
| 19:48.00 | Semlar | maybe it was something i was considering writing.. |
| 19:48.07 | Semlar | i don't know i get these things confused |
| 19:48.56 | Primer | http://ceregatti.org/cs.jpg |
| 19:49.15 | Primer | I have the mouse over the leg enchant icon |
| 19:49.28 | Semlar | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/wyrmrest-accord/bodypull/advanced this is what it looks like in the armory |
| 19:49.43 | Semlar | you'd need a wider character sheet to display it though |
| 19:49.58 | Primer | ^^^^^ |
| 19:50.33 | Semlar | i don't even know if you can get all of this information without scraping the tooltip |
| 19:50.50 | Primer | as if that matter. |
| 19:50.51 | Primer | s |
| 19:51.01 | Primer | Obviously there's an addon that already does it |
| 19:51.10 | Primer | I just don't want the rest of oqueue |
| 19:51.16 | Primer | at least not on this toon |
| 19:51.19 | Semlar | i guess that's true |
| 19:54.19 | Semlar | alright i've decided i either dreamed it up or it's impossible to search for |
| 19:54.45 | Primer | So far I can't find any search terms that have yielded anything |
| 19:56.00 | Primer | Odd that I can't tell if your panda is horde or alliance from the armory page |
| 19:56.15 | Primer | had to hover over the guild name |
| 19:56.20 | Semlar | i think the red realm name might indicate it |
| 19:56.22 | Semlar | i'm not sure |
| 19:56.30 | Semlar | it might just be a coincidence |
| 19:56.57 | Semlar | although i am wearing the orgrimmar tabard |
| 19:57.00 | Semlar | >_> |
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| 20:01.04 | zenzelezz | "god, I hate when you're following a guide letter by letter, and it doesn't work" -- "reminds me of the first time I dated a girl"... okay, how am I supposed to respond to that? o_O |
| 20:03.08 | Dagmar | You don't have to. They clearly still don't have game. |
| 20:15.53 | Semlar | Primer: does oq actually show the correct item level for upgraded items |
| 20:18.24 | Primer | no |
| 20:18.37 | Semlar | ok |
| 20:18.37 | Primer | err, actually, I'm not sure |
| 20:19.18 | Primer | checking |
| 20:19.36 | Primer | yes, it does |
| 20:20.01 | Primer | I wish it'd show x/2 as well |
| 20:21.03 | Semlar | i'm going to play around with the functions and see how difficult it would be to get this working |
| 20:21.49 | Primer | well, oqueue does it |
| 20:23.19 | Semlar | but the most important thing.. is the name |
| 20:23.33 | Primer | not sure what you mean |
| 20:23.40 | Semlar | CAN'T HAVE A GOOD ADDON WITHOUT A GOOD NAME |
| 20:23.46 | Primer | ahh |
| 20:23.53 | Primer | how about "character shit" |
| 20:24.02 | Primer | play on words |
| 20:25.13 | Semlar | i think i'll call it armorysheet for now |
| 20:26.18 | Primer | I like "Character Shit" |
| 20:27.03 | Torhal | Semlar: Charjazzle! |
| 20:27.10 | Torhal | grins evilly. |
| 20:27.19 | Neffi | Bull Sheet. Put a picture of a Tauren on it. |
| 20:27.25 | Torhal | Hah |
| 20:27.31 | Primer | What's the wowace policy regarding potentially vulgar addon names? |
| 20:27.40 | Torhal | Depends on the name. |
| 20:27.55 | kd3 | I'd assume that if blizz doesnt pitch a wowace probably doesn't care? |
| 20:28.01 | kd3 | s/pitch a/pitch a fit/ |
| 20:28.18 | Torhal | WoW is played by children, and I wouldn't allow something named "This Fucking Rawks!" on Curse. |
| 20:30.02 | Neffi | Hint: children have worse guttermouths than adults |
| 20:30.03 | foxlit | -1 for bad puns, -1 for vulgarity, really. |
| 20:30.07 | Neffi | Curses don't hurt them |
| 20:30.11 | Primer | http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/geary/ |
| 20:30.15 | Neffi | They don't cause emotional distress |
| 20:30.19 | Primer | I put someone else to work on it |
| 20:30.20 | Neffi | it's a god-damned word |
| 20:30.29 | Semlar | see it does exist |
| 20:30.37 | Torhal | Neffi: Yes, but it isn't considered good public policy to allow curse words on such sites :P |
| 20:30.38 | Primer | right |
| 20:31.00 | Semlar | it's just impossible to find apparently |
| 20:31.05 | Primer | right |
| 20:31.11 | Neffi | By whom? |
| 20:31.15 | Semlar | google |
| 20:31.19 | Semlar | the curse search |
| 20:31.22 | Semlar | whatever, really |
| 20:31.23 | foxlit | Neffi: by me. |
| 20:31.31 | Primer | I tried a bunch of different terms |
| 20:31.36 | Neffi | I think you'll find that by and large it's only the professional types that keep up the illusion that these things are vulgar |
| 20:32.06 | Torhal | I didn't realize this was a philosophical debate. :D |
| 20:32.16 | Torhal | I was just saying what I'd allow on Curse. heh. |
| 20:32.36 | Neffi | That's cool and all |
| 20:32.55 | Neffi | I'm just reserving my right to be offended, since that seems to be the norm |
| 20:33.00 | Torhal | I mean, yes, children hear and use such language all the time. |
| 20:33.18 | Torhal | But I don't want to be the guy that made the call to allow something that could potentially cause my company a shitstorm. |
| 20:33.24 | Neffi | I find it offensive that we still consider some words vulgar on the basis that they have Germanic roots |
| 20:34.51 | Primer | I really wonder how oqueue manages to push the limit on some things |
| 20:35.20 | Primer | Things like bounties and world events |
| 20:35.29 | Neffi | How so? |
| 20:35.32 | Primer | I got a message saying that I should go protect my pvp vendors |
| 20:35.50 | Primer | because a bounty had been placed on them |
| 20:36.16 | Semlar | you can communicate cross faction using bnet ids |
| 20:36.24 | Primer | well, there's a lot of automation involved |
| 20:36.34 | Primer | and I figured that was a nono in Blizz's eyes |
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| 20:36.43 | Primer | I can't imagine someone's typing all this |
| 20:36.58 | Semlar | let me rephrase that, an addon can communicate cross faction with bnet ids |
| 20:37.02 | Neffi | I could imagine that very much |
| 20:37.10 | Primer | My guess is they're injecting code into the addon via automation |
| 20:37.13 | Neffi | They opened up the door for this with BNet communication |
| 20:37.27 | Primer | like, something typing macros into wowlua |
| 20:37.52 | foxlit | it's just straight up real id whispers. |
| 20:38.14 | foxlit | There's nothing technically interesting about it; Blizzard's policy enforcement has always been slower than a turtle in winter. |
| 20:38.21 | Semlar | all you would need is a single person with a bnet friend on the opposite faction running the addon |
| 20:38.23 | Primer | right, but like I said, I'm sure they're not written by humans |
| 20:38.46 | Primer | not 100% sure |
| 20:38.48 | foxlit | Yes, yes. Addons send them; users don't see them (normally). |
| 20:38.50 | Primer | but 99.99% |
| 20:39.11 | foxlit | It's sort of like the guild invite spam that you get on unguilded chars. That's also not typed in by humans. |
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| 20:39.13 | Neffi | we are the .01% |
| 20:39.35 | foxlit | It'd take someone actually doing something horrifically exploitative with that cross-faction communication ability to get them to protect the damn thing |
| 20:40.07 | Semlar | you mean like use oqueue's existing system to let you chat with an alliance person in front of you |
| 20:40.38 | foxlit | maybe if you use oqueue's existing system to spam everyone on the opposing faction in a battleground. |
| 20:41.55 | foxlit | or flood someone with messages, if this thing allows arbitrary forwarding. |
| 20:43.32 | Primer | so this Geary addon doesn't do this stuff to the character sheet. It just opens its own custom UI |
| 20:43.39 | Primer | and weapons aren't even at the bottom |
| 20:43.41 | Semlar | ^_^ |
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| 20:58.10 | Primer | bah, this addon is useless |
| 20:58.24 | Primer | I don't want to have to click on an extra button or type to get this info |
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| 20:58.38 | Primer | He should have just integrated it with the existing character sheet |
| 20:59.21 | chefbjork | greetings - im having a big problem w elvui and im stumped. basically one of the chat windows went dark and i cant even click on the options for it. when i disable elvui, the trade channel is just gone. i cant even enable it in the default window |
| 20:59.40 | chefbjork | any ideas, i am here because i couldnt find an elvui channel yet |
| 20:59.54 | chefbjork | ive tried /resetchat etc. no luck yet |
| 21:00.04 | kd3 | in a capital city, type `/join Trade` |
| 21:00.53 | Primer | Semlar: so I'm back in the same boat. |
| 21:01.09 | Semlar | i'll take a look at it later |
| 21:01.39 | Primer | as will I |
| 21:01.46 | Semlar | it shouldn't be that hard |
| 21:01.50 | Primer | I agree |
| 21:02.20 | chefbjork | kd - that partially works. i can see the trade chan in the left window |
| 21:02.40 | foxlit | so did anyone figure out why slider lag in 5.4? |
| 21:02.47 | foxlit | ^+s |
| 21:02.51 | chefbjork | the right window, you know where u can usually click in the header of the pane? there is nothing to click still. have tried resetting chat, resetting elvui, copying another working profile. all the same result nil |
| 21:04.16 | kd3 | if you want to completely reset your ui settings, exit wow and rename or remove your /path/to/wow/WTF/Account folder. I don't use elvui, so I can't point you at details on just resetting it |
| 21:04.43 | chefbjork | yeah brain surgery is next i suppose |
| 21:04.52 | Mr_Rabies | try this chefbjork |
| 21:05.04 | Mr_Rabies | can you see the tabs of the other chat window? |
| 21:05.11 | chefbjork | yes sir |
| 21:05.30 | chefbjork | General and Combat Log are in the ehader of the left pane |
| 21:05.43 | Mr_Rabies | you could try reset chat windows there if that wouldn't set you back too far |
| 21:05.48 | Mr_Rabies | then reload ui |
| 21:06.04 | Mr_Rabies | right click general tab, reset chat windows |
| 21:06.09 | chefbjork | did that but the right pane is still disabled |
| 21:06.32 | Mr_Rabies | hmm |
| 21:06.33 | Mr_Rabies | okay |
| 21:06.34 | Neffi | wtf man. just, wtf? |
| 21:06.34 | Neffi | https://www.msu.edu/~choijay/etiquette.pdf |
| 21:06.37 | chefbjork | it displays the info at the bottom, fps, time, gold. |
| 21:06.53 | Neffi | Some guy did a scientific research paper on toilet seat etiquette |
| 21:07.00 | Mr_Rabies | type /framestack and then mouseover the chat window that's broken, and paste a screenshot here, chefbjork |
| 21:07.11 | Mr_Rabies | that should tell us what's making the frame, at least |
| 21:09.08 | chefbjork | be quicker to type it out: Frame Stack, MEDIUM, <0> ElvUIParent <0> UIParent, BACKGROUND <5> RightChatPanel <4> table: 47DCE530, WORLD <0> WorldFrame |
| 21:09.52 | chefbjork | is that useful? |
| 21:10.26 | Mr_Rabies | yeah, seems like that frame is created by elvui, at least, and not a modified default chat frame |
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| 21:11.08 | chefbjork | i'll try a toon where its working and compare |
| 21:11.24 | Mr_Rabies | well, created by something that's not in the base UI, as far as i can tell, since the chat frames are called ChatFrame1, etc |
| 21:12.58 | chefbjork | interesting on a functional ui, the fstack shows right pane BACKGROUND <6> ChatFrame3 |
| 21:13.06 | Neffi | chefbjork: Can you (1) confirm you have the latest version of EvlUI and (2) give me a link to said version |
| 21:13.16 | chefbjork | <5> RightChataPanel <4> Table etc |
| 21:13.23 | Neffi | I'll see if I can trace through the code and find a problem |
| 21:13.39 | chefbjork | v 6.57 |
| 21:13.47 | chefbjork | pretty recent, i will see if there is a new v |
| 21:13.50 | Mr_Rabies | hmm, so it moves a default ChatFrame inside the RightChatPanel it sounds like |
| 21:14.04 | chefbjork | yah maybe i drug it out by accident |
| 21:14.07 | Neffi | There's a few different download pages for it. I want to make sure I'm downloading exactly what you have |
| 21:14.09 | chefbjork | raid gets pretty hectic |
| 21:14.09 | Mr_Rabies | good times with ui suites :| |
| 21:14.20 | chefbjork | always get it from tukui.org |
| 21:15.14 | chefbjork | neffi - the wierd thing is, it works fine on my others, and used to work fine on this char as well |
| 21:15.32 | chefbjork | www.tukui.org/dl.php |
| 21:24.19 | Neffi | http://imgur.com/gallery/cvPJV |
| 21:24.21 | Neffi | oh fuck |
| 21:26.07 | chefbjork | ok so i found in WTF etc a file for each toon called chat-cache.txt |
| 21:26.28 | chefbjork | i found within settings for windows that might apply so im going to try and replace the stuff for window3 on the broken toon |
| 21:27.16 | chefbjork | if this works i will be impressed |
| 21:28.33 | chefbjork | dude it works! |
| 21:28.36 | chefbjork | zomg |
| 21:28.59 | chefbjork | so the solution was to paste the entire entry for WINDOW3 from a functional ui to the broken one |
| 21:29.07 | chefbjork | (inside chat-cache.txt) |
| 21:29.22 | chefbjork | replacing the bogus entry for WINDOW3 in the broken one |
| 21:29.26 | chefbjork | hope that makes sense |
| 21:30.58 | chefbjork | thanks btw for everyone who helped |
| 21:38.24 | Neffi | http://i.imgur.com/wse84Ee.jpg |
| 21:38.30 | Neffi | does anyone else find this as cool as I do? |
| 21:42.35 | Primer | no |
| 21:43.10 | Neffi | >_> |
| 21:52.30 | foxlit | gr, WoW. |
| 21:53.01 | foxlit | "Hey, let's let FontStrings with zero-height but non-zero width wrap... exactly once... and then eat the rest of the text!" |
| 21:54.44 | zenzelezz | obviously |
| 21:57.39 | Arrowmaster | thats strange, the new flash drive i got shows up as a harddrive instead of a removable device when i plug it in a windows xp machine |
| 21:57.56 | foxlit | "... and let's have :GetStringHeight() lie to your face" |
| 22:03.28 | Mr_Rabies | does it use U3, Arrowmaster? |
| 22:04.42 | foxlit | heh, that one was my bad. It was obscured behind something :/ |
| 22:07.06 | foxlit | What do you think of my error message? http://www.go-hero.net/i/svs.jpg |
| 22:08.53 | zenzelezz | it should say "Stop using so many damn addons that WoW runs out of memory!", but pretty good |
| 22:12.32 | Arrowmaster | Mr_Rabies: nope |
| 22:17.12 | Arrowmaster | it shows up as a removable drive under linux though |
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| 22:31.34 | Dagmar | What kind of fuckup parents let their little kids play GTA V online |
| 22:31.35 | Dagmar | jesus |
| 22:32.00 | kd3 | the kind of parent who doesn't care what their kid is playing? |
| 22:32.08 | kd3 | would wager: >50% |
| 22:32.51 | Dagmar | After hearing the third little kid mouthing off about where his niggaz at, I just started murdering them |
| 22:33.26 | Dagmar | Apparently they don't like it when you tell them to get off the fuckin' game and go tell their parents they were idiots for letting a toddler play |
| 22:34.46 | Dagmar | This is a real condundrum. On the one hand, I could be mad at errant parents. On the other hand, I'm in a very good position to do something about the kids directly. |
| 22:39.03 | zenzelezz | if not for GTA, where would minors learn how to handle guns!? |
| 22:39.30 | Dagmar | Well, today they're learning "Man... old people are mean!" |
| 22:40.08 | Arrowmaster | i havent touched online yet |
| 22:40.18 | Dagmar | I dare Sony to say one fuckin' word to me |
| 22:40.39 | Dagmar | "Harassing kids? No, you must be mistaken. I was *murdering them*. Why are they playing this game in the first place?" |
| 22:41.01 | Dagmar | I am officially _motivated_ to commit some crimes now. |
| 22:41.50 | Ressy | I let my toddler play NHL14 in shootoff mode.. Nathan claps at his opponent scoring on him.. He's all happy. |
| 22:43.07 | Dagmar | That's fine but this is Grand Thefto Auto V. There's a _greaphic torture mission_ for pete's sake |
| 22:43.39 | Ressy | Thats probably why hubby doesn't play GTAV til Nathan's in bed.. lol |
| 22:43.51 | Dagmar | That's good |
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| 23:19.05 | zenzelezz | "If your friends join, they too can 'legally' have the song as well!" |
| 23:19.15 | zenzelezz | people *need* to learn about quotation marks |
| 23:30.38 | Neffi | i kno , rite. "soooooo" Annoying ! |
| 23:36.05 | foxlit | Neffi: so "annoying." ftfy. |
| 23:36.27 | Neffi | lol wtf u lern 2 rite |
| 23:36.32 | Neffi | u Need to check uself |
| 23:37.22 | foxlit | I hope you're not contagious. |
| 23:37.55 | Neffi | thats not funny sum ppl rly r contagus u shdnt jike lyk thiat |
| 23:39.10 | foxlit | because frankly, one person doing the pretend-idiot routine is already tiresome, we don't need two. |
| 23:39.35 | Neffi | whoz pretending |
| 23:39.51 | Dagmar | Damnit now I have to go kill more kids |
| 23:40.28 | Neffi | wtf |
| 23:40.41 | Neffi | What happened now Dagmar? |
| 23:42.06 | rid_ | more? :< |
| 23:46.15 | Dagmar | All the stupid on the screen |
| 23:46.28 | Dagmar | Gotta kill kids playing GTAV so they'll go do their homework |
| 23:48.59 | Neffi | I think there's a logical disconnect here |
| 23:54.28 | Neffi | .... |
| 23:54.33 | Neffi | seals are dog mermaids |
| 23:55.29 | Dagmar | Just because it's not the type of logic you prefer doesn't mean it's not logic |
| 23:56.03 | Dagmar | One of the easier ways to improve the gene pool is just to kill the stupid. |
| 23:58.12 | Neffi | But you've still got all that murderous pollution hanging around |
