| 00:01.25 | Neffi | http://imgur.com/gallery/x7eSCAZ oh god why can't i just have $10,000 sitting in the bank |
| 00:08.32 | TC-Work | Even if you did there would be more responsible things to buy than that. |
| 00:12.41 | Neffi | I respectfully disagree kind sir. God says I should buy that whiskey. |
| 00:12.53 | Neffi | Alcohol may be man's worst enemy, but the bible says love your enemy. |
| 00:13.21 | Neffi | What better way to love it than to buy enough to kill several people |
| 00:14.40 | Esamynn|work | several? |
| 00:15.05 | Neffi | I've never had access to that much alcohol, so it's kind of hard to quantify how much I actually need to drink to die |
| 00:15.11 | Neffi | I mean, I'm not dead *yet* |
| 00:16.45 | TC-Work | Really? I don't drink and I have had access to that much. |
| 00:17.02 | Neffi | I'm jealous |
| 00:17.19 | TC-Work | Granted I may have had access because I dont drink. |
| 00:17.27 | Esamynn|work | lol |
| 00:17.32 | Neffi | Oh fuck I have beer downstairs. Why am I just thinking about drinking? |
| 00:17.41 | Esamynn|work | ... |
| 00:17.55 | Esamynn|work | alcoholic |
| 00:18.09 | Neffi | Meh |
| 00:18.15 | Neffi | I'm more of a recreational enjoyist |
| 00:18.43 | Neffi | In that I recreationally enjoy it as often as possible -- which is not nearly often, so how could I possibly be an alcoholic? |
| 00:22.33 | TC-Work | Easy |
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| 00:23.58 | TC-Work | http://macawproject.org/ Well then, someones security was not tight enough |
| 00:25.07 | Neffi | For an expert hacker, he's not very good at HTML |
| 00:25.31 | TC-Work | Yea, not sure I would call that person an 'expert' |
| 00:27.10 | Neffi | but, but |
| 00:27.47 | Neffi | He has a Guy Fawkes mask AND a suit. He may be sticking up his middle finger, but he knows how to apply textures and outer glow to text in Photoshop. |
| 00:28.10 | TC-Work | although the img host site and the YT link are inarabic |
| 00:28.18 | TC-Work | in Arabic* |
| 00:28.21 | Neffi | If that isn't professional, then I dare say NO hacker that targets websites with the intention of giving people the middle finger so they can feel cool about themselves is professional! |
| 00:30.34 | Esamynn|work | somehow, I doubt he is paid to do that.. therefore... not professional :P |
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| 00:38.00 | kd3 | ugh |
| 00:38.06 | kd3 | it's been years since I've messed with Swing |
| 00:38.09 | kd3 | I had hoped to forget |
| 00:43.39 | Neffi | <3 Sam Adams |
| 00:43.50 | Neffi | Never a disappointing beer |
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| 00:59.34 | TC-Work | Unless you run out. |
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| 01:02.30 | Shirik | http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=2rjbtsX7twc |
| 01:19.33 | TC-Work | 40 min Shirik |
| 01:19.38 | Shirik | ? |
| 01:19.45 | TC-Work | Till you can watch OMG |
| 01:21.46 | Shirik | oyay |
| 01:29.00 | Kraps | We are writing tell you about an important change to Diablo III: we're going to be removing the gold and real-money auction house system from the game. |
| 01:29.02 | Kraps | ^] |
| 01:29.04 | Kraps | ^ |
| 01:29.12 | kd3 | yay~ |
| 01:29.18 | kd3 | way, way overdue |
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| 01:29.36 | Kraps | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:29.36 | Kraps | way too long |
| 01:30.06 | kd3 | eh, maybe it'll cut down the 'zomg you guys are destroying my livelihood' lawsuits |
| 01:30.26 | Kraps | lol "lawsuits" |
| 01:31.22 | Kraps | this is the money quote |
| 01:31.24 | Kraps | But after much review and player feedback, it became increasingly clear that despite the benefits of the AH system and the fact that many players around the world use it, it ultimately undermines Diablo's core game play: kill monsters to get cool loot. |
| 01:32.23 | Kraps | basically damning themselves by admitting drops were shitty because of the AH |
| 01:32.28 | xyphoid | well i dunno |
| 01:32.46 | xyphoid | i mean there's a difference between 'the AH was the easy place to get loot compared to picking it up' and 'we deliberately made drops bad' |
| 01:33.39 | Kraps | not deliberately |
| 01:33.48 | Kraps | but its a balance thing |
| 01:33.56 | xyphoid | it's not like d2 had fountains of level-appropriate loot either - it's just that you wore crap gear for longer |
| 01:34.15 | xyphoid | in d3 you'd gain a level and then spend 30 seconds replacing everything with current gear |
| 01:34.57 | alestane | On the AH, the stuff you want sort of floats to the top. |
| 01:34.59 | Kraps | i never had the mount of gold required for that or the drive to grind |
| 01:35.21 | alestane | Unlike grinding, where you have to keep sifting for it. |
| 01:36.22 | xyphoid | i found level-appropriate gear was cheap as chips all the way through |
| 01:36.39 | xyphoid | the cash from vendoring stuff paid for it |
| 01:43.54 | TC-Work | I have still managed to never buy anything off of the AH |
| 01:44.05 | TC-Work | Looks like I get to keep my record. |
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| 02:07.57 | kd3 | scary. http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2013/09/17/house-explosion-reported-in-stamford/ |
| 02:08.26 | kd3 | wonder if this one's going to turn out like the last home explosion I can think of up north... not exactly accidental |
| 02:16.20 | pompy | Stanzilla: http://kotaku.com/three-guys-pretended-to-be-cops-to-get-gta-v-early-1337596291 |
| 02:22.40 | Neffi | "According to reports from the NYPD, three men from Staten Island" |
| 02:22.46 | Neffi | Hooray for the idiots from my hometown |
| 02:22.52 | Neffi | go nyc |
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| 03:16.49 | jleclanche | fewyn: you around? |
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| 03:21.28 | fewyn | maybe |
| 03:21.30 | fewyn | kinda |
| 03:21.31 | fewyn | lfring |
| 03:21.41 | fewyn | wanting not to murder people |
| 03:21.42 | Stanzilla | pompy1: yeah I saw that, pretty neat idea |
| 03:22.04 | Primer | Every download site with craftbukkit.jar stalls at abot 95% |
| 03:22.05 | Primer | wtf |
| 03:27.12 | Primer | must be something here...pulled it down to a remote location just fine |
| 03:34.25 | jleclanche | fewyn: you might be interested in #starcitizen. its quiet though. |
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| 04:26.23 | *** topic/#wowuidev by Cairenn -> http://pastebin.com || 5.4.x ToC: 50400 || #WoWUIDev-commits: CIA & JIRA bots reporting || Battletags: http://goo.gl/2bm7n || This channel is logged, via purl || BlizzCon! Nov. 8-9 || Happy Birthday Seerah! |
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| 05:36.37 | Fisker | btw tharper you may wanna register before joining the channel :P |
| 05:38.04 | Thunder_Child | Fisker: His does the same as mine, the client does the auto-reg after the join for some reason. |
| 05:38.53 | Fisker | tried authing at connect using server password? |
| 05:40.12 | Thunder_Child | nope, lazy |
| 05:40.18 | Fisker | :o |
| 05:41.09 | Fisker | well I guess if hiding your hostmask isn't important then it doesn't matter :P |
| 05:43.06 | tharper | Fisker: ? |
| 05:43.18 | tharper | yes |
| 05:43.19 | tharper | heh |
| 05:43.29 | tharper | hiding my hostmask is not important |
| 05:43.46 | tharper | I do not care of people know I am in Sweden |
| 05:43.49 | tharper | if |
| 05:44.02 | tharper | even btter, people assume I am Swedish, then =p |
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| 05:46.41 | Primer | ARGH, is there no way to prevent button placements from being propagated to the server and back? |
| 05:47.07 | Primer | I have 2 accounts. One is technically my son's, and he moves the abilities all the time, and I like them to stay put |
| 05:47.45 | Primer | I have all 4 CVARs that I can't find that control that set to 0 |
| 05:47.50 | Primer | in Config.wtf |
| 05:48.01 | Fisker | Well tharper |
| 05:48.08 | Fisker | it's kind of embarassing to be swedish |
| 05:48.09 | Fisker | :D |
| 05:48.25 | tharper | is far more embarrassed about being American. |
| 05:49.13 | Fisker | oh yeah |
| 05:49.59 | Fisker | I'm technically embarassed over being any nationality |
| 05:50.36 | tharper | ha |
| 05:50.48 | tharper | If people here weren't so rude about mine I would probably not even remember |
| 05:51.23 | Fisker | For me the nationality is only to be taken as the defining of geographical borders :P |
| 05:52.50 | tharper | yeah |
| 05:52.52 | tharper | I agree |
| 05:52.55 | tharper | but the law says different |
| 05:53.04 | tharper | it's used to control people's movement |
| 05:54.41 | Fisker | Schengen and EU is somewhat addressing that though |
| 05:55.14 | tharper | yup...for you guys ;) |
| 05:55.38 | Fisker | :P |
| 05:56.14 | Fisker | Does it only apply if you have citizenship? |
| 05:56.24 | Fisker | I thought it also applied if you had a visa |
| 06:05.47 | Primer | Anyone know if there's a different setting that does not begin with "synchronize" that controls if spell positions on bars are transmitted to the server? |
| 06:06.16 | Iriel | Aren't those ALWAYS transmitted? |
| 06:06.24 | Primer | I want them to NOT be |
| 06:06.37 | nebula169 | yea, can't change that behavior |
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| 06:06.43 | Primer | wow, that's really lame |
| 06:09.01 | Primer | I guess I'll have to swap out bars between the 2 computers |
| 06:19.33 | nebula169 | can use default for him and bartender with the higher number bars for you or something |
| 06:19.49 | Primer | I have enough spare bars for this |
| 06:19.53 | Primer | I just need 2 |
| 06:19.59 | Primer | luckily he doesn't have a druid |
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| 06:41.39 | Stanzilla | Primer: how about using something like actionbarsaver? |
| 06:42.52 | Primer | that sounds interesting |
| 06:42.57 | Primer | thanks |
| 06:51.26 | pnorman | actionbarsaver is good for that |
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| 07:55.18 | Shirik | can anyone think of a Lua pattern that would consume a severely large number of cycles? |
| 07:55.27 | Shirik | cpu cycles |
| 07:55.56 | zenzio | what for? |
| 07:56.13 | Shirik | I'm trying to break things |
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| 07:56.49 | Kalroth | while true do end |
| 07:56.59 | zenzio | was about to say; do such loops not suffice? |
| 07:57.02 | Shirik | that is not a Lua pattern |
| 07:57.02 | Shirik | no |
| 07:57.09 | Shirik | I need it to not execute a Lua instruction |
| 07:57.18 | Shirik | the VM IP needs to remain constant |
| 07:57.30 | Shirik | so a really complex lua pattern would work |
| 07:57.32 | zenzio | oh, so something that calls the C runtime or similar? |
| 07:57.34 | Shirik | or any C function that you can get stuck in |
| 07:57.38 | Shirik | yes |
| 07:58.08 | Shirik | also needs to not consume memory |
| 07:58.16 | Shirik | more accurately, not a ton of it |
| 07:58.29 | Shirik | like string.join() with a billion arguments is not a valid option |
| 07:59.30 | zenzio | I'm not very good with this |
| 07:59.34 | zenzio | but it sounds almost like you'd want an inifinte or near infinite loop in C-land |
| 07:59.40 | Shirik | basically yes |
| 08:01.24 | Fisker | make a string.join builder :P |
| 08:06.17 | bluspacecow | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:06.53 | Fisker | bluspacecow |
| 08:09.28 | Fisker | what's up bluspacecow ? |
| 08:09.54 | bluspacecow | night off! |
| 08:10.00 | bluspacecow | for next 3 nights |
| 08:10.02 | bluspacecow | :P |
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| 08:15.01 | Fisker | I have every night off: 3 |
| 08:16.16 | bluspacecow | :3 |
| 08:16.26 | bluspacecow | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:16.27 | bluspacecow | hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii |
| 08:17.00 | znf | uhm |
| 08:17.01 | znf | ok? |
| 08:17.12 | bluspacecow | wat do? |
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| 08:48.03 | Fisker | let's lick bluspacecow |
| 08:48.12 | bluspacecow | kk |
| 08:48.14 | bluspacecow | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:49.26 | Fisker | <PROTECTED> |
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| 09:20.44 | karl_w_w | <PROTECTED> |
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| 09:59.33 | karl_w_w | bluspacecow, stop maintaining the battle.net website or I'll take that lick back |
| 09:59.47 | bluspacecow | but i don't |
| 10:00.18 | karl_w_w | oh so you're going to tell lice now |
| 10:00.36 | bluspacecow | tell ice wa ? |
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| 10:51.25 | karl_w_w | my realm has a login queue |
| 10:51.32 | karl_w_w | guess wow is dead |
| 10:51.39 | bluspacecow | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:51.44 | bluspacecow | your eval |
| 10:59.29 | Alram | confirmed |
| 10:59.33 | Alram | i checked with Fisker |
| 10:59.34 | Alram | wow is dead |
| 11:03.11 | Fisker | stop stalking ;( |
| 11:06.37 | bluspacecow | But I'm the scorpion wanting to cross the river |
| 11:06.45 | bluspacecow | its in my nature to stalk u fisker |
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| 11:15.03 | airtonix_ | lewl |
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| 11:46.47 | bluspacecow | if [ -z "$1" ]; then |
| 11:46.47 | bluspacecow | echo wat u doing u fool\! |
| 11:46.51 | bluspacecow | lol sanity checking |
| 11:48.19 | zenzio | what's that test again, check against zero? |
| 11:48.48 | bluspacecow | does $1 exist ? |
| 11:48.55 | bluspacecow | if you not u a fool for not using the command right |
| 11:50.44 | bluspacecow | at least for a command i'm going to use for me and only me :\ |
| 12:00.20 | karl_w_w | holy hell bluspacecow |
| 12:00.24 | karl_w_w | lick rescinded! |
| 12:00.32 | bluspacecow | :( |
| 12:00.33 | bluspacecow | so mean! |
| 12:00.55 | Humbedooh | licks bluspacecow instead |
| 12:04.48 | bluspacecow | \o/ |
| 12:04.49 | bluspacecow | yay |
| 12:22.14 | bluspacecow | grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr |
| 12:22.15 | bluspacecow | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/9499900272?page=2#22 |
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| 12:50.50 | airtonix | bluspacecow: makes sense. our lord and saviour Gabe Newell (may the ground he walks on be blessed by 128 virgins) has revealed his masterplan to begin a purge of our realm of all the unclean operating systems... Blizzard can see the blinding truth in this revelation and has henceforth ceased to collaborate with heathens so as to appease the demon lo... i mean our lord saviour. |
| 12:50.59 | airtonix | bluspacecow: umad? |
| 12:51.46 | Alram | man airtonix |
| 12:51.49 | Alram | are you from /r/gaben |
| 12:51.54 | Alram | that is some /r/gaben shit right there |
| 12:52.23 | Alram | can't wait until our lords announcement next week |
| 12:52.38 | airtonix | half life 3, i want to believe. |
| 12:52.47 | Alram | everyone does |
| 12:53.03 | airtonix | pls bluspacecow |
| 12:53.41 | airtonix | plot twist: bluspacecow is gabe newell, which explains all the gym visitations. |
| 12:53.58 | karl_w_w | what? half life 3? I'm so unexcited! |
| 12:54.00 | bluspacecow | muhahahhahha |
| 12:58.56 | zenzio | I wish Half-Life 2 hadn't borne the Half-Life name. Drop that and Freeman, and it'd be a very good game; but with that name it just doesn't fit in "my" Half-Life universe |
| 13:01.31 | nebula169 | pretty sure your definition is irrelevant, valve defines what half life is |
| 13:01.40 | nebula169 | crosses arms |
| 13:01.44 | zenzio | absolutely; I'll never claim otherwise |
| 13:02.02 | airtonix | raises his pitchfork |
| 13:02.08 | zenzio | I'm only saying I was personally disappointed by HL2 |
| 13:02.12 | nebula169 | heh |
| 13:04.11 | nebula169 | Blizzard has posted a bombshell of an update to the Battle.Net blog. As of 18 March 2014, it is removing both the gold and the real money Auction Houses from Diablo 3 |
| 13:04.14 | nebula169 | oh snap |
| 13:04.28 | Humbedooh | old news D: |
| 13:04.48 | nebula169 | i just got an email about it ;[ |
| 13:04.51 | airtonix | mad? |
| 13:09.26 | Kraps | ur mad |
| 13:12.41 | mikma | http://imgur.com/gallery/vpK1B6h |
| 13:16.08 | airtonix | Russian Wake? |
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| 13:35.21 | mikma | http://imgur.com/gallery/yNWOq9H |
| 13:35.53 | zenzio | Patrick Stewart is just amazing |
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| 14:12.42 | karl_w_w | "man that is so lame, blizzard disabled alt F4 in this patch so that we can't troll people with it" |
| 14:13.47 | bluspacecow | wat |
| 14:16.00 | zenzio | Anarchy Online is nice about that. Press Alt+F4 once and it'll tell you to press it again to quite |
| 14:16.03 | zenzio | or to quit |
| 14:17.47 | bluspacecow | :( |
| 14:17.49 | bluspacecow | my hair is all tangly |
| 14:18.57 | pompy1 | of course "69" is the number of story missions Rockstar choses for gta5 |
| 14:22.38 | karl_w_w | zenzio: quite. |
| 14:23.24 | mikma | http://www.break.com/video/best-way-to-drain-a-pool-2517827 |
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| 14:24.53 | bluspacecow | lol |
| 14:25.06 | bluspacecow | am i silly for thinking "lol rednecks" |
| 14:27.45 | karl_w_w | yes |
| 14:28.00 | karl_w_w | you shouldn't laugh at the mentally misfortunate |
| 14:28.12 | bluspacecow | oh ok |
| 14:28.21 | bluspacecow | *goes to watch R.O.D. |
| 14:28.31 | karl_w_w | ring of death? |
| 14:28.37 | bluspacecow | read or die |
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| 14:43.04 | Lopeppeppy | I resemble that "rednecks" remark! But what a waste of a pool. |
| 14:45.37 | bluspacecow | i sowwwwy Peppy |
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| 14:51.23 | Neffi | why is the YT logo a cat? |
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| 15:02.36 | pompy1 | https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151670613082705&set=a.10150170632837705.289106.168295667704&type=1 |
| 15:05.15 | Lopeppeppy | Is that to add to all the other boxes under my TV that I don't use? |
| 15:06.21 | Lopeppeppy | The Boyfriend wants an Ouya, but I think it sounds like an Oiuja board and I don't need any more spooky shit in my living room. |
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| 15:07.55 | bluspacecow | http://www.reddit.com/r/talesfromtechsupport/comments/1mle4z/i_tore_the_user_out_so_bad_she_retired/ |
| 15:08.02 | bluspacecow | :_; it's beatiful |
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| 15:23.18 | Neffi | http://i.imgur.com/VBWB8MO.gif lol & sad |
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| 15:39.44 | Lopeppeppy | Is it football time yet? I got my jersey, I soooo want to wear it to work... |
| 15:43.05 | Fisker | you also watching the champion league? :3 |
| 15:43.22 | Fisker | champions* |
| 15:43.55 | Fisker | what does he want an ouya for btw Lopeppeppy ? |
| 15:44.41 | nicoli_s | i am fisker! |
| 15:44.48 | Fisker | no! |
| 15:44.50 | karl_w_w | he doesn't know how to plug his PC into his TV, Fisker |
| 15:45.21 | Fisker | what if i told you he might know how to plug his PC into his TV karl_w_w ? |
| 15:45.54 | karl_w_w | I would think you're a pretty cool guy and you doesn't afraid of anything |
| 15:46.17 | Fisker | good |
| 15:47.02 | Unkle | ... what is this? I don't even ... |
| 15:48.04 | Lopeppeppy | Fisker, he just wants another Boy Toy (tm). He got a Chromecast and played with it for a few days, now he's bored and needs something else. |
| 15:48.14 | Fisker | heh |
| 15:48.16 | Fisker | i know that :D |
| 15:48.20 | Fisker | got an ouya and chromecast myself |
| 15:48.24 | Fisker | bored of both :D |
| 15:48.46 | Fisker | Chromecast is nice for youtube though |
| 15:48.57 | Lopeppeppy | The mac mini is just so.... last decade or something. And he's jealous of how spiffy I think that my little Mohu Leaf antenna is. |
| 15:49.21 | Lopeppeppy | Where's HIS new TV toy? *le pout* |
| 15:49.23 | Lopeppeppy | And stuff. |
| 15:49.28 | Fisker | :D |
| 15:49.59 | Unkle | Toys - never enough. |
| 15:50.37 | Fisker | Chromecast would be way better here if I could actually get other content than netflix and youtube |
| 15:50.53 | Unkle | Like streaming from your PC? |
| 15:50.57 | Fisker | yeah |
| 15:51.08 | Fisker | unfortunately they closed those loopholes |
| 15:51.21 | Lopeppeppy | Chromecast is pretty limited by the fact that nobody is programming for it. |
| 15:51.23 | Fisker | But at most I'd like something like Netflix, but that also has new content that can be purchased |
| 15:51.33 | Fisker | Well they basically can't Lopeppeppy |
| 15:51.43 | Fisker | Because Google doesn't allow it yet |
| 15:51.47 | Fisker | only with select parners |
| 15:51.49 | Fisker | partners* |
| 15:51.52 | Lopeppeppy | Google is silly then. |
| 15:52.02 | Fisker | yep :( |
| 15:52.04 | Unkle | Fisker: Something like Roku or AppleTV? |
| 15:52.16 | Fisker | idk Unkle |
| 15:52.18 | Fisker | never used that |
| 15:52.24 | Fisker | one has a fruit on it i would never buy |
| 15:52.31 | Fisker | and the other i don't even think is really sold here |
| 15:52.46 | Fisker | But basically netflix + being able to buy shows and movies would be cool |
| 15:53.01 | Fisker | But Google has to cater to the content providers |
| 15:53.03 | Fisker | so nooo |
| 15:53.03 | Unkle | I have an AppleTV which allows me to purchase or rent via iTunes for newer content - though I usually buy them on the PC and just play them via the AppleTV |
| 15:53.10 | Fisker | Yeah |
| 15:53.16 | Fisker | Never ever touching something made by Apple |
| 15:53.19 | Fisker | unless my boss pays me to |
| 15:53.20 | Fisker | :P |
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| 16:53.42 | Shirik | reading an article on why you shouldn't upgrade to ios 7 yet |
| 16:53.51 | Shirik | reason #2 "There isn't a jailbreak available" |
| 16:53.57 | Shirik | I think I'll stop reading this now |
| 16:54.54 | nicoli_s | thats what im waiting for |
| 16:55.17 | nicoli_s | my wife wont let me update our ipad till we can jailbreak it solely so she can have afull screen insta gram client |
| 16:55.47 | Fisker | :o |
| 16:55.56 | Fisker | just get an android |
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| 16:58.31 | nicoli_s | nah we have windoes phones |
| 16:58.38 | nicoli_s | she just likes using the ipad for it |
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| 17:09.10 | Lopeppeppy | Okay, we're hosting The 12th International Conference on Finite Fields and Their Applications. Who's coming!? |
| 17:10.06 | Lopeppeppy | Note that international thingie - Fisker, sign your arse up. zenzio, I expect to see you there bright and early. |
| 17:10.21 | Fisker | :P |
| 17:13.34 | Fisker | hah |
| 17:13.45 | Fisker | some jackass priest jnwhiteh |
| 17:13.53 | Fisker | tried to do the troll berserker trick on me |
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| 17:14.03 | Fisker | I got him to 1 hp before he got the cards |
| 17:14.09 | airtonix | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BiFkm4Ave90 |
| 17:14.11 | Fisker | so even though he had a 20/20 troll he could get fucked |
| 17:14.13 | Fisker | i had arcane shot |
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| 17:14.23 | jnwhiteh | heh |
| 17:14.26 | jnwhiteh | umad? |
| 17:14.28 | Fisker | hemad |
| 17:14.35 | airtonix | somad |
| 17:14.35 | TC-Work | My turn to rage about end users today |
| 17:14.58 | TC-Work | usurps Lopeppeppy's rage title. |
| 17:15.08 | Fisker | sup TC-Work ? |
| 17:15.12 | Lopeppeppy | Wooot. You wear the funny tiara today! |
| 17:15.29 | TC-Work | Yes Fisker, Yes. |
| 17:15.37 | zenzelezz | Lopeppeppy: want me to bring some tables to flip? |
| 17:15.58 | TC-Work | Lopeppeppy: Tiara's have pointy bits, I can use them to stab people, all good. |
| 17:16.11 | Fisker | don't think they're sturdy enough for stabbing |
| 17:16.18 | TC-Work | I'll make it work. |
| 17:16.20 | Lopeppeppy | Some of them are, Fisker. |
| 17:16.29 | Lopeppeppy | zenzelezz, bring at least a coin to flip. |
| 17:16.40 | Fisker | oh, not a tiara expert |
| 17:17.03 | airtonix | another one? |
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| 17:24.05 | Fisker | wow |
| 17:24.06 | Fisker | fuck this |
| 17:24.10 | Fisker | almost killed a warlock |
| 17:24.20 | Fisker | and he has a card that turns him into jaraxxus |
| 17:24.25 | Fisker | which resets him to 15 hp |
| 17:24.37 | Fisker | and gives him a +3 damage attack each round |
| 17:24.41 | nicoli_s | ouch |
| 17:24.42 | Fisker | and a 2 mana cost 6/6 minion |
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| 17:28.03 | Lopeppeppy | TC, you haven't said who you're killing or why! Tease. |
| 17:29.04 | TC-Work | Lopeppeppy: Oh, am I supposed to share? |
| 17:29.29 | Lopeppeppy | Your pain will be lessened if we can also point and laugh at what a jerk your user is. |
| 17:29.47 | TC-Work | Well, today I am pissed off by a user who upped and moved his location without telling anyone. |
| 17:30.15 | TC-Work | And my boss is not doing enough |
| 17:30.19 | TC-Work | yell |
| 17:30.24 | TC-Work | ing |
| 17:36.24 | Lopeppeppy | Like, picked up his computer and moved it, expecting that he'd have all of his services when he plunked himself down again? |
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| 17:37.05 | TC-Work | No, he just sat at another location |
| 17:37.10 | TC-Work | that already had a setup |
| 17:37.11 | tharper_ | Schengen helps people who needed visas to enter europe, its' true |
| 17:37.13 | tharper_ | but err |
| 17:37.15 | TC-Work | and then asked for things |
| 17:37.17 | tharper_ | Fisker: Schengen helps people who needed visas to enter europe, its' true |
| 17:37.31 | tharper_ | Fisker: but my arbetstillstånd is not valid outside of Sweden |
| 17:38.26 | Fisker | :( |
| 17:38.35 | Maldivia | get an EU passport thne :) |
| 17:40.04 | Lopeppeppy | Oh, like if I went and sat at someone else's computer and thought they'd have all of my programs installed. |
| 17:43.24 | TC-Work | Well, the setups are all the same, and this was an empty one. We also use roaming profiles. If he had simply put in a request this would not be a problem. But no. |
| 17:43.46 | TC-Work | Then he went and asked for a cent6 dual boot, which is how we found out. |
| 17:45.02 | Lopeppeppy | Stab him. |
| 17:45.16 | Sintacks | [Stanzilla] Sintacks: what |
| 17:45.17 | Sintacks | i forgot |
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| 17:45.51 | Sintacks | oh yeah. Stanzilla. y u weakauras 2 |
| 17:47.30 | Stanzilla | because original author was mia |
| 17:47.56 | Sintacks | so why can't you be made author. or is cruse dumb like that |
| 17:48.28 | Sintacks | also, does that mean i need to re-open my tickets or are you looking at tickets posted for the old one |
| 17:48.49 | Stanzilla | I'm looking at both and the author refused to answer to mails and PMs |
| 17:48.52 | Stanzilla | even if he read them |
| 17:48.56 | Stanzilla | now he is back btw |
| 17:49.00 | Sintacks | what a dick |
| 17:49.06 | Stanzilla | and asking me whyyyy |
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| 17:50.16 | Sintacks | why is it that weakauras 2 can't accept auras via in game links from weakauras 1? |
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| 18:06.30 | bluspacecow | Cairenn: http://www.pinterest.com/pin/482940760011327527/ |
| 18:06.41 | bluspacecow | It's an emergency cute kitty! |
| 18:06.51 | Cairenn | awwww |
| 18:07.08 | Sintacks | throws it at Cairenn |
| 18:07.23 | bluspacecow | nuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu |
| 18:09.09 | Stanzilla | Sintacks: that is intentional, there were too many broken auras being shared over the internet |
| 18:09.16 | Stanzilla | that got reported as bugs all the time |
| 18:09.19 | Stanzilla | clean slate time |
| 18:09.21 | Sintacks | lol |
| 18:09.36 | Sintacks | it doesn't really solve the issue though, if they just update and then share |
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| 18:09.54 | Stanzilla | still helps a bit :< |
| 18:10.16 | alestane | Apparently this network doesn't support IRC very well. |
| 18:10.30 | Sintacks | I wonder how many people are going to send you RAGE filled messages because their auras are all gone because theydidn't uncheck the remove settings box |
| 18:10.41 | Stanzilla | none so far |
| 18:10.57 | Sintacks | lol |
| 18:14.19 | Sintacks | wow apple fails |
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| 18:14.46 | Sintacks | oh nice. after i say apple fails, it downloads |
| 18:14.58 | Sintacks | but anyway: still fail. cuz iTunes says 6.1 is current version |
| 18:15.12 | Torhal | Sintacks: You have to update iTunes. |
| 18:15.18 | Sintacks | i did that |
| 18:15.40 | Sintacks | i always update iTunes. cuz there is alawys an update when ever i open it. cuz i rarely open it. |
| 18:15.48 | Torhal | Huh. Weird. |
| 18:15.52 | Torhal | You have 11.1? |
| 18:16.34 | Sintacks | http://i.imgur.com/82g8O2a.png |
| 18:17.15 | Sintacks | http://i.imgur.com/bR86aJR.png |
| 18:17.20 | Torhal | Weird. IOS 7 was supposed to release 17 minutes ago. |
| 18:17.31 | Torhal | I updated mine last night from the leaked gold master./ |
| 18:17.38 | Sintacks | really? only that short a time ago? |
| 18:17.40 | Sintacks | weird. |
| 18:17.49 | Sintacks | then i though "oh hey. let's see if it's there" like, right when it came |
| 18:17.50 | Sintacks | lol |
| 18:17.52 | Torhal | 10am PST |
| 18:18.05 | Torhal | Oh, an hour and 17 minutes then |
| 18:18.13 | Sintacks | PST or PDT? |
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| 18:18.35 | Xinhuan | heh ios7 |
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| 18:18.41 | Sintacks | moo cow |
| 18:18.45 | Xinhuan | already had that installed months ago hehe |
| 18:18.56 | airtonix | Xinhuan: that's a funny way to spell android |
| 18:18.59 | Sintacks | aren't you special |
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| 18:19.04 | Xinhuan | of course! |
| 18:19.05 | Xinhuan | :D |
| 18:19.09 | Torhal | Sintacks: Oh, no clue. time.com says "The short answer is that there's no official time, but – BUT! – Apple seems to like to do things at around 1pm Eastern, 10am Pacific. |
| 18:19.10 | Torhal | Read more: http://techland.time.com/2013/09/18/ios-7-release-time/#ixzz2fGmfdxay" |
| 18:19.35 | Xinhuan | its a benefit of being a developer! |
| 18:19.52 | Torhal | No, it's a benefit of shelling out $100 |
| 18:19.53 | Torhal | :D |
| 18:19.53 | airtonix | there is benefits to using apple products? |
| 18:20.00 | Sintacks | I love PVP'ers QQ on forums about World PvP |
| 18:20.11 | Xinhuan | i don't shell out money, my company does :P |
| 18:20.18 | airtonix | but then i supose the prisoners in the gulags told themselves there were benfits |
| 18:21.50 | Sintacks | I love Bashiok. calling people bad, indirectly. |
| 18:21.52 | Sintacks | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/10014151372?page=2#40 |
| 18:22.12 | Sintacks | also, I can't believe it took so long for LFR QQ threads. |
| 18:22.31 | Sintacks | I was expecting them within an hour of US servers coming up |
| 18:24.44 | Semlar | LFR is laughably easy |
| 18:25.35 | Stanzilla | the boss and mechanics are |
| 18:25.39 | Stanzilla | but the people make it hard |
| 18:25.50 | Semlar | a lot of the players are quite bad |
| 18:25.54 | Stanzilla | I'm in a group since 2 hours now or so |
| 18:25.55 | Sintacks | heh. 3'rd boss can actually be more annoying than Lfex |
| 18:25.59 | Semlar | but does that mean they should nerf the bosses |
| 18:26.02 | Sintacks | cuz the randomness of people going down |
| 18:26.08 | Sintacks | but yeah, not hard. |
| 18:26.26 | Stanzilla | player skill is the biggest problem for blizzard |
| 18:26.28 | Stanzilla | gaps are too huge |
| 18:26.38 | Sintacks | There were 8 of of from my guild in an LFR and we wiped on 3rd and 4th boss, cuz the other people are sooo bad that you just can't carry them |
| 18:26.58 | Stanzilla | I'm alone in here :( |
| 18:27.29 | nevcairiel | i'll do lfr on the weekend again, cant be bothered to do it evenings |
| 18:27.44 | nevcairiel | i would rather quest some more, stupid full realm is stopping me! |
| 18:27.47 | Semlar | i would basically never queue for lfr after thursday |
| 18:27.51 | Stanzilla | ^ |
| 18:27.56 | Stanzilla | always gets harder |
| 18:28.01 | nevcairiel | ..harder? |
| 18:28.04 | Stanzilla | yes |
| 18:28.07 | Stanzilla | more retards |
| 18:28.15 | Semlar | the people who want to do it generally get it out of the way earlier in the week |
| 18:28.18 | nevcairiel | even with retards you can sleep through it |
| 18:28.23 | Semlar | the people who are left are usually even worse |
| 18:29.47 | Semlar | norushen is great on LFR, it automatically picks people to switch phases and you can literally just walk through the cutter beam |
| 18:29.59 | Semlar | and the big adds don't drop corruption |
| 18:30.23 | Semlar | plus i don't even think it has an enrage timer |
| 18:30.33 | Stanzilla | it does |
| 18:30.35 | Stanzilla | we reached it |
| 18:30.41 | Semlar | it definitely isn't what dbm thinks it is |
| 18:30.50 | Semlar | we were on the fight for like 8 minutes and still downed it |
| 18:30.52 | Sintacks | it's not what bigwigs thinks. i don't know about dbm. |
| 18:31.15 | nevcairiel | ooh finally through the queue |
| 18:31.17 | Sintacks | we didn't last long enough for dbm's timer |
| 18:31.42 | Stanzilla | timer is at 2:45 atm |
| 18:31.46 | Stanzilla | and boss at 70% hp |
| 18:31.48 | Stanzilla | .............................. |
| 18:32.06 | nevcairiel | anyhow i still cba to do lfr today, i dont particularly care anyway, rather level this hunter a bit =p |
| 18:32.07 | Semlar | i'm pretty sure the enrage on normal is either 5 or 6 minutes |
| 18:32.09 | nevcairiel | much more relaxing |
| 18:32.27 | Semlar | it's a pretty close enrage when you're doing it on normal |
| 18:32.53 | Semlar | on LFR we went way past the normal enrage timer and nothing happened except maybe more adds |
| 18:34.23 | Stanzilla | http://db.tt/UTUUgSJY |
| 18:34.24 | Stanzilla | :( |
| 18:35.03 | Semlar | we one shot him and the sha |
| 18:35.17 | Stanzilla | in LFR? |
| 18:35.20 | Stanzilla | good group then :D |
| 18:35.24 | Semlar | oh my god the damage meters |
| 18:35.34 | Stanzilla | ^^ |
| 18:35.49 | Semlar | that's really sad |
| 18:36.07 | Stanzilla | notice we alreay have 2 wipe buffs |
| 18:36.17 | Semlar | how is that even possible |
| 18:36.37 | Semlar | were people not getting the buff from clearing the adds in the other phase? |
| 18:37.01 | Stanzilla | no this problem is proudly sponsered by blizzard giving everyone the minimum item lvl with isle gear |
| 18:37.02 | Semlar | i did 200k dps on that fight |
| 18:37.16 | Semlar | i think the rest of the raid averaged around 100k |
| 18:37.38 | Stanzilla | Big Wigs: Defeated 'Norushen' after 9 Min 42 Sec. |
| 18:37.39 | Stanzilla | Big Wigs: New best time! |
| 18:37.50 | Semlar | no wonder you hit the enrage timer |
| 18:39.54 | Sintacks | ... |
| 18:40.07 | Stanzilla | btw this LFR group also wants a video before every boss |
| 18:40.10 | Sintacks | okay. download iOS 7 update. click install. tries to verify "Software update unavailble" |
| 18:40.12 | Sintacks | DAFUQ APPLE |
| 18:40.14 | Stanzilla | and ~10 min tactic talk |
| 18:40.16 | Sintacks | this is why people hate you |
| 18:41.17 | Semlar | http://i.imgur.com/wRAkqYv.jpg |
| 18:41.20 | bluspacecow | hmmmm |
| 18:41.48 | bluspacecow | http://t.co/lvzb1P2QLj |
| 18:41.56 | bluspacecow | use the IPSW links IMHO |
| 18:42.02 | bluspacecow | or just try again |
| 18:42.19 | Semlar | looks like we were 7:20 into that fight when i took that screenshot |
| 18:42.32 | Semlar | so probably finished close to 8 minutes |
| 18:42.33 | bluspacecow | ha ha |
| 18:42.37 | bluspacecow | i thought you said flight |
| 18:43.03 | Stanzilla | Funkeh`: might wanna set LFR enrage at about 10 min for norushen |
| 18:43.10 | Semlar | actually most of the raid had pretty godawful dps too |
| 18:43.32 | Funkeh` | Stanzilla, I did |
| 18:43.37 | Semlar | although the damage done is probably skewed slightly from being in the other phase |
| 18:43.37 | Funkeh` | like 8 hours ago |
| 18:43.40 | Stanzilla | ok |
| 18:43.47 | Stanzilla | maybe I did not reload after updating |
| 18:43.51 | Torhal | Sintacks: I'd wager their authentication servers are hammered. |
| 18:44.06 | Torhal | I almost expected to be admonished for installing the leaked GM. |
| 18:44.09 | Sintacks | yeah |
| 18:44.14 | Sintacks | same way the download servers were |
| 18:44.54 | Sintacks | I reposted the only weakaura ticket i care about, btw. do eet |
| 18:45.24 | Stanzilla | patches are welcome :D |
| 18:45.35 | Semlar | yeah the fight ended at 7 minutes and 50 seconds |
| 18:48.50 | Semlar | if it makes you feel any better when we got to the sha we had zero discussion about anything |
| 18:49.53 | Semlar | i just mentioned you had to stand on the orange bits to break people out of prison |
| 18:51.48 | Semlar | i love 25 mans because you can routinely lose multiple people on a fight and still manage to down it |
| 18:53.23 | Semlar | my guild is stuck doing 10 mans so we gear up way slower |
| 18:54.36 | Mr_Rabies | gearing up is so much faster in 25s it's insane, i wish i could convince my guild to do it |
| 18:56.28 | Semlar | we have 2 10 mans because of people's schedules |
| 18:56.39 | Stanzilla | I wish they would drop different raid sizes and do 20 man |
| 18:56.40 | Stanzilla | or 15 |
| 18:56.42 | Semlar | there's just no possible way we could have one 25 man raid |
| 18:56.57 | Semlar | flex raid is nice but of course drops worse loot |
| 18:57.06 | Mr_Rabies | i'd rather seem them expand flex tech into normal modes |
| 18:57.16 | Mr_Rabies | and maybe a delayed rollout for heroics |
| 18:57.33 | Semlar | apparently they couldn't tune it correctly for flex raid to work out for normal modes |
| 18:57.38 | Mr_Rabies | like, a month after raid launch unlock flex for heroics or something |
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| 19:05.33 | Neffi | Cyanogenmod Inc was just established. Pretty cool. |
| 19:05.44 | Neffi | Their core team will be working on CM fulltime as their primary jobs |
| 19:07.50 | nicoli_s | nice |
| 19:07.57 | nicoli_s | do they have a plan to monetize it? |
| 19:08.08 | Neffi | Nope |
| 19:08.37 | Neffi | They say nothing will change. They got $7 mill in funding which is driving their salary for now. |
| 19:09.09 | Neffi | http://www.cyanogenmod.org/blog/a_new_chapter |
| 19:09.57 | Neffi | If you scroll to the bottom, you can see that they may be the first software company in the world to employ both a dog and a clown |
| 19:10.10 | Neffi | I think that's very progressive and positive |
| 19:10.18 | nicoli_s | lol |
| 19:14.56 | nicoli_s | the SF curse office gets to bring their dogs to work, im jealous |
| 19:15.19 | nevcairiel | that would totally bug me as a not dog owner |
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| 19:16.49 | Torhal | nicoli_s: They don't really need to concentrate though. I mean, it's sales and accounting... |
| 19:17.07 | Torhal | When I work from home my cat can drive me apeshit. |
| 19:17.16 | Stanzilla | so can I |
| 19:17.27 | Torhal | You always drive me apeshit. |
| 19:17.29 | airtonix | me too |
| 19:17.40 | Stanzilla | <3 |
| 19:18.44 | nicoli_s | i wish we could have dogs in the office, peaches would drive people crazy |
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| 19:20.55 | Torhal | You're mean, though, nicoli_s. |
| 19:21.34 | nicoli_s | nuhuh |
| 19:21.54 | Torhal | Wanting to drive an office full of coders crazy? Mean. |
| 19:23.31 | nicoli_s | yes but they will be driven crazy until they submit to peaches cuteness |
| 19:27.18 | Esamynn|work | I would argue that the office full of coders was already crazy and the dog would simply be a distraction |
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| 19:28.30 | TC-Work | Right, because people need more of a distraction to not do work.....like IRC. |
| 19:29.02 | nicoli_s | i think they do |
| 19:29.06 | nicoli_s | especially one as cute as my dog |
| 19:29.25 | TC-Work | That sir, is subjective. |
| 19:29.39 | Torhal | OMG TC-Work wants a duel. |
| 19:30.14 | TC-Work | Damn right. My weapon of choice is nukes. |
| 19:30.31 | Torhal | Poor nicoli_s :/ |
| 19:30.52 | TC-Work | I know, either way I win. |
| 19:31.21 | nicoli_s | i chose a nuke proof shield with a gun in it |
| 19:31.25 | nicoli_s | i win |
| 19:31.44 | Torhal | So...a refrigerator? |
| 19:31.48 | Torhal | ducks. |
| 19:32.10 | bluspacecow | oh noes Torhal! |
| 19:32.20 | bluspacecow | hope you didn't get trapped inside it when the door closed! |
| 19:32.41 | TC-Work | No you can not choose cheyenne mountain as your weapon nicoli_s. |
| 19:32.45 | Torhal | Completely lacking in context; this is bluspacecow. |
| 19:33.04 | bluspacecow | the fridge! |
| 19:33.08 | Torhal | I never said _I_ was getting inside of one! |
| 19:33.11 | TC-Work | I understood it Torhal |
| 19:33.21 | TC-Work | Stop being a failure |
| 19:33.22 | bluspacecow | y u do finger at me Torhal |
| 19:33.24 | bluspacecow | :( |
| 19:33.34 | bluspacecow | its an urban legend anyway |
| 19:33.35 | nicoli_s | i can see him doing it from here |
| 19:33.44 | Torhal | TC-Work: I didn't say you didn't understand. I was saying bluspacecow is weird for thinking it was for me. |
| 19:33.58 | Torhal | You're all weird. I'm going back to coding. |
| 19:34.06 | TC-Work | Torhal: Hardly weird for that. Just most things that he says. |
| 19:34.10 | bluspacecow | friidges built after '55 don't have latchs on them |
| 19:34.11 | bluspacecow | go in one |
| 19:34.14 | bluspacecow | push it open |
| 19:34.17 | bluspacecow | simple |
| 19:34.28 | TC-Work | builds a latch on blu's fridge. |
| 19:34.34 | bluspacecow | :( |
| 19:34.36 | bluspacecow | so mean! |
| 19:34.43 | TC-Work | Damn coews keep getting into the fridge. |
| 19:34.46 | TC-Work | cows* |
| 19:34.52 | bluspacecow | its where the milk is! |
| 19:34.57 | Torhal | Most people put whole cows in deep-freezers. |
| 19:35.11 | TC-Work | You are supposed to have udders |
| 19:35.16 | TC-Work | what do you need a fridge for? |
| 19:39.21 | bluspacecow | chocolate milk |
| 19:39.54 | Arrowmaster | somebody needed to fill their quota and gave me a $180 ticket for 84 in a 70 today |
| 19:40.26 | TC-Work | Then don't go 84 in a 70? |
| 19:40.36 | TC-Work | also, they don't have quota's |
| 19:40.40 | Arrowmaster | they do |
| 19:40.53 | TC-Work | Not around here then |
| 19:40.54 | Arrowmaster | and i was just going as fast as the car in front of me |
| 19:41.35 | TC-Work | Need I cooment on that? I'll sound like your mother. |
| 19:41.47 | TC-Work | comment* |
| 19:42.00 | Arrowmaster | amazingly it looks like im actually free on the day of the court date |
| 19:42.44 | TC-Work | How can you fight it? |
| 19:44.24 | Arrowmaster | according to the ticket he didnt use radar or lazer, he 'paced' me |
| 19:44.43 | Arrowmaster | just ask when the last time the car was certified |
| 19:45.20 | Primer | Arrowmaster: where is this? |
| 19:45.41 | Primer | I used to work as a motorcycle messenger here in LA in my youth. I fought every ticket I ever got. |
| 19:45.51 | Arrowmaster | it was an ohio state patrol |
| 19:45.55 | Primer | All it takes is for the cop to not show up and you win. |
| 19:46.19 | Primer | Thing is nowadays they get paid overtime to show up, so most go. I know this from my cousin, who is a CHP. |
| 19:46.24 | Primer | He loves going to court. |
| 19:46.28 | Arrowmaster | thats what i thought |
| 19:47.08 | airtonix | really depends on the judge and how much the judge thinks they hate you |
| 19:47.27 | Arrowmaster | if i show up and hes there, dont they also off reduced charges if ill just pay the fine then |
| 19:47.30 | Primer | If he shows, the only recourse is knowing when the last time his car's spedometer was calibrated. |
| 19:47.46 | Primer | In CA you can ask for traffic school |
| 19:47.54 | Primer | Which prevents the point from going on your record. |
| 19:48.04 | Primer | I don't know how it works in other states. |
| 19:48.18 | Primer | If I were you, I'd ask to postpone the court date as much as possible. |
| 19:48.22 | Arrowmaster | i dont know if thats an option if ive got zero points currently |
| 19:48.52 | Arrowmaster | i had 6 points for a year a long time ago |
| 19:48.57 | Primer | I once had a case where the officer's notes were not delivered to the court and when we were called, the judge asked the cop what happened and he said "I have no independent recollection of the events" |
| 19:49.06 | Primer | case dismissed |
| 19:49.52 | Primer | That was the time when I crossed a divided highway by merging onto the freeway from the onramp road, which just happened to have a "driveway" and hitting about 100 |
| 19:50.06 | Primer | but the cop was going so fast to try to catch up to me he never paced me |
| 19:50.27 | Primer | So he only wrote me up for crossing the divided highway |
| 19:50.55 | Primer | In California there's a provision where you may request the county seat |
| 19:51.00 | Primer | which I did in that case |
| 19:51.25 | Primer | basically you claim that you neither live nor work anywhere near where they want the case to be heart, so you ask for the county seat, which in this case was downtown LA |
| 19:51.39 | Primer | This is what caused the officer's notes to not be delivered |
| 19:51.59 | Primer | and I postponed the case for as long as I could |
| 19:52.11 | Primer | And he didn't remember, so I won |
| 19:52.33 | Dagmar | WEll, I guess that's a victory |
| 19:52.34 | Arrowmaster | http://www.dmv.org/oh-ohio/point-system.php |
| 19:52.36 | Primer | It was funny, we rode the same elevator down, and he said I got lucky, to which I agreed, and we had a laugh about it |
| 19:52.41 | TC-Work | As opposed to trying not to fight when you break the law? |
| 19:52.47 | TC-Work | Yea, much better. |
| 19:52.59 | Arrowmaster | so you get less points on your license for driving after consuming alcohol if you are underage.... |
| 19:53.03 | Primer | meh...I had to keep that job, and I was riding on 3 points for the year |
| 19:53.08 | Dagmar | Well, at least he wasn't drunk and driving through a playground. |
| 19:53.34 | airtonix | or drunk driving and flying the bike while attached to a military helicopter? |
| 19:53.51 | airtonix | because that shit happens yo |
| 19:53.52 | Primer | I broke the law every day on that job |
| 19:53.56 | Primer | I was always speeding |
| 19:53.59 | Primer | _always_ |
| 19:54.08 | airtonix | meth speeding? |
| 19:54.17 | Primer | TC-Work: ever ride a motorcycle on LA freeways? |
| 19:54.23 | TC-Work | Primer: Nope. |
| 19:54.36 | TC-Work | Fail to see how that changes things |
| 19:54.39 | Dagmar | I suspect GTA V doesn't count |
| 19:54.53 | Primer | When I'd get pulled over by motorcycle cops I would always tell them "I always go faster than traffic because my worse fear is being approached by a car from behind" |
| 19:54.57 | Primer | that always got me off |
| 19:55.26 | Arrowmaster | i drove for 4 fucking hours today, you can bet i was speeding for the majority of it till i hit the traffic jam |
| 19:55.33 | Primer | It really is hard to see someone coming up behind you when your mirrors are vibrating, and they don't stick out far enough to see everything |
| 19:56.03 | TC-Work | Don't get me wrong, I speed constantly. The difference is I would pay the ticket. |
| 19:56.07 | Primer | I would also get out of tickets by never lying and always being calm. |
| 19:56.18 | Primer | "How fast do you think you were going?" |
| 19:56.21 | Primer | "80" |
| 19:56.31 | Primer | "That's about right. Why were you going so fast?" |
| 19:56.50 | Primer | "(same old story about fearing cars coming up behind me)" |
| 19:57.05 | Arrowmaster | TC-Work: normally i would too unless i already had points on my license, but the city the court house is in will be on my way home anyway (3 hour round trip drive) |
| 19:57.17 | Primer | I worked as a motorcycle courier for 3 years on LA freeways, logging on average 150 miles a day, for 3 years in my early 20's |
| 19:57.17 | Arrowmaster | at about the right time too |
| 19:57.23 | Primer | I was pulled over 21 times |
| 19:57.38 | Primer | ticketed 13 times |
| 19:57.44 | Primer | convicted 6 times |
| 19:58.01 | Primer | And yes, I kept a log of that |
| 19:58.08 | TC-Work | I have had 0 moving violations. I also keep a log |
| 19:58.16 | Primer | You must not drive much |
| 19:58.27 | TC-Work | ~1.5 hours a day |
| 19:59.07 | Arrowmaster | 4 speeding tickets total i think |
| 19:59.19 | Arrowmaster | before this one |
| 19:59.28 | Neffi | http://i.imgur.com/ARkAmsN.gif |
| 19:59.29 | Primer | My commute currently is 30 miles each way, and varies with the time of day. On average it's about that long. I haven't had a ticket since I rode motorcycles |
| 20:00.10 | Arrowmaster | this is the first time ive gotten a ticket for something as stupid as 84 in a 70 |
| 20:01.01 | Arrowmaster | 3 of my previous tickets were all for 75 in a 55 or other wise 20 overs in a sub 55 zone |
| 20:01.22 | Neffi | MP/H? |
| 20:01.31 | Arrowmaster | ive gotten verbal warnings for 19 15 and some other before too |
| 20:01.33 | Arrowmaster | yes mph |
| 20:01.43 | Neffi | Those seem like pretty standard speeding tickets in the states |
| 20:01.49 | Neffi | Cops are assholes. |
| 20:02.11 | Neffi | You're lucky. I've seen tickets for 10 over. |
| 20:02.24 | Arrowmaster | i got a verbal warning for a 54 in a 35 or was it (44 in a 25) on my 18th birthday |
| 20:02.35 | Maldivia | http://ir.take2games.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=86428&p=irol-newsArticle&ID=1856046 -- damn, that's a lot of money on day one |
| 20:03.13 | Neffi | The amount of people doing illegal things to get their hands on that game is just marvelous |
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| 20:17.06 | Esamynn|work | I got a ticket from a red light camera in the mail yesterday :/ |
| 20:17.17 | Semlar | i've never managed to get a ticket |
| 20:17.27 | TC-Work | You have tried to? |
| 20:17.34 | airtonix | answer: no |
| 20:17.40 | Semlar | i have never not driven over the speed limit, does that count |
| 20:17.59 | Esamynn|work | I didn't stop for the yellow and managed to enter the intersection 0.5s after the light turned red |
| 20:18.24 | Esamynn|work | I swear, they didn't use to tune those cameras that close |
| 20:18.35 | Esamynn|work | I'm kinda of two minds about this one |
| 20:18.36 | Semlar | speed limits seem to be intentionally lower than they should be |
| 20:18.52 | Semlar | probably because people are always going to drive 5 miles faster than whatever is posted anyway |
| 20:18.54 | Esamynn|work | define "should" |
| 20:19.24 | Semlar | the speed limit should be whatever speed you can drive at safely for a given road |
| 20:19.44 | Semlar | but it also depends on traffic conditions |
| 20:20.24 | Semlar | people should be given tickets for driving unsafely |
| 20:20.36 | Semlar | that's the spirit of the law |
| 20:20.37 | Esamynn|work | ^ |
| 20:20.46 | Semlar | but the letter of the law is just being over the posted speed limit |
| 20:21.01 | Esamynn|work | which is why I've always thought that red light cameras were tuned to really only catch people OBVIOUSLY running a red light |
| 20:21.15 | Esamynn|work | ie. mutliple seconds after it changed |
| 20:21.21 | Esamynn|work | at least |
| 20:21.34 | Esamynn|work | seems not, at least not this one |
| 20:21.43 | TC-Work | The problem is that if I drive at x speed it is safe whereas if a 90 year old person drives at the same speed it is not. |
| 20:21.59 | TC-Work | How does the cop know? |
| 20:22.34 | Maldivia | Esamynn: fine-tuned = more money |
| 20:22.56 | Semlar | i thought it already was tuned to make them more money |
| 20:23.06 | TC-Work | Semlar: It comes down to stoping distance at x speed. |
| 20:23.14 | Esamynn|work | Maldivia: thus why I'm pondering how I feel about this ticket |
| 20:23.30 | Maldivia | Esamynn: well, you did run a red light |
| 20:23.33 | Esamynn|work | photo-radar became a political bomb here due to them tuning it too fine |
| 20:23.43 | TC-Work | But you were in the wrong Esamynn|work, and it will keep you from doing it again...for a while at least. |
| 20:24.17 | Esamynn|work | technically yes, I was wrong, was I unsafe, or doing something that imeeded traffic? no |
| 20:24.35 | TC-Work | I think that tickets should be multi-thousand dollar costs. Shit would stop real soon. |
| 20:24.41 | Esamynn|work | impeded* |
| 20:24.52 | Semlar | with the number of bullshit tickets? i don't think so |
| 20:24.56 | Esamynn|work | ^ |
| 20:25.14 | TC-Work | There would not be as many bullshit tickets then |
| 20:25.19 | Semlar | really? |
| 20:25.22 | TC-Work | Yes |
| 20:25.29 | TC-Work | Assuming we are talking about the same thing |
| 20:25.37 | TC-Work | How do you define a bullshit ticket? |
| 20:26.14 | Maldivia | last fall, I was talking to a guy in the SF bay area, he always used the car-pool lane, even if he was only one person in the car, and had the money required to pay the fine stashed away in the car with the mindset that the money was already "lost" |
| 20:26.47 | Maldivia | but the time saved every single day quickly "earned back" the "lost" money |
| 20:27.40 | TC-Work | Right, because it's $500 or so. If it was $10,000? I suspect not |
| 20:27.49 | Maldivia | exactly |
| 20:28.25 | TC-Work | And even if he does continue to do it, the state is in debt.... |
| 20:28.48 | Maldivia | although he was talking about that they had changed the system, so for repeat offenders, the fine would go up every time |
| 20:29.05 | TC-Work | That is a step in the right direction/ |
| 20:29.10 | TC-Work | .* |
| 20:29.14 | airtonix | what's a car pool lane? |
| 20:29.21 | airtonix | is it for dirty cars? |
| 20:29.34 | TC-Work | a lane for vehicles with multiple people |
| 20:29.35 | Semlar | it's a lane reserved for people with multiple people in the car |
| 20:30.45 | airtonix | see here in australia, when you get to the point when you think you need to reserve a whole lane just for cars... you may as well force people to use the public transport |
| 20:31.25 | Semlar | yeah we're not huge fans of public transportation in the states |
| 20:31.32 | airtonix | too much oil |
| 20:32.19 | Semlar | except maybe new york |
| 20:32.25 | Esamynn|work | public transportation is not a silver bullet |
| 20:32.32 | Maldivia | airtonix: https://www.dropbox.com/s/60g8c1sn7szb0za/2012-09-11%2008.40.44.mp4 -- the difference between carpool and normal lanes in the morning traffic |
| 20:33.21 | Semlar | i'm actually surprised people aren't just using it anyway |
| 20:34.13 | Esamynn|work | for public transit to actually be a good alternative, you need relatively high density so that you get lots of people on the routes |
| 20:34.25 | TC-Work | http://kotaku.com/remove-your-battle-net-mobile-authenticator-before-upgr-1342896609 |
| 20:34.39 | nevcairiel | Semlar: apparently there are really heavy fines on it |
| 20:35.07 | Maldivia | nevcairiel: there are now, there didn't use to be |
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| 20:41.18 | foxlit | so, addon-wise, 5.4 is pretty disappointing. |
| 20:41.46 | Esamynn|work | how so? |
| 20:41.50 | Semlar | there's no api to check that your group has been transferred to another realm even though there's a dialog box warning you about it? |
| 20:42.29 | Esamynn|work | transferred to another realm? you mean, like because the group leader changes? |
| 20:42.30 | foxlit | framexml still suffers from the same bugs it has since 5.0 |
| 20:42.45 | Esamynn|work | and these bugs would be? |
| 20:42.48 | Semlar | like if someone from another server invites you to a group |
| 20:42.48 | foxlit | the few new interesting bits are applied in a braindead fashion. |
| 20:43.00 | Semlar | it transfers you to their realm when you join but i don't know if you can check that after the fact |
| 20:43.20 | Semlar | i know it gives you a dialog box asking if you want to accept it or not |
| 20:43.30 | foxlit | Esamynn|Away: talent frame gets tainted in hilariously easy and unrelated ways. |
| 20:43.31 | Esamynn|work | oh, I didn't know it did that |
| 20:44.24 | Semlar | INVITATION_XREALM = "%s invites you to a group.\n\nAccepting this invitation may transfer you to another realm."; |
| 20:44.48 | Esamynn|work | also, new bits being implemented in a way that does not in anyway take into account AddOns is nothing new |
| 20:45.22 | foxlit | that's not quite what I mean |
| 20:45.30 | foxlit | They added securerandom() but only use it for /castsequence. |
| 20:45.54 | Esamynn|work | and not for... what? |
| 20:45.54 | Semlar | actually, once you're in a group with a person from another realm will it change what realm you're on if you change leaders |
| 20:46.21 | Esamynn|work | I have no idea |
| 20:46.37 | Semlar | i need someone to test this with |
| 20:46.42 | foxlit | the restricted environment, which is a far bigger and juicier target. |
| 20:48.16 | foxlit | but heck, if you're adding a decent random number generator, why not just replace math.random entirely and not worry about where it's used? |
| 20:48.18 | Esamynn|work | the difference is lack of a known problem |
| 20:49.00 | foxlit | If there is no known problem, why add a new function in the first place? |
| 20:49.36 | Esamynn|work | ahh, but I seem to recall there BEING a problem with /castsequence |
| 20:49.41 | Maldivia | Semlar: from previous experience, it's not the leader of the group, but from which the majority of the group members are from |
| 20:50.02 | Semlar | i think it's the leader when you're in a party and the majority when you're in a raid |
| 20:50.05 | foxlit | but anyway, this isn't new. I've been whining about it since 3.0; others have whined about in 5.0 |
| 20:50.40 | Semlar | i need to be able to detect if you might be in a crz group so i'm writing a function for it |
| 20:52.13 | foxlit | Semlar: out of interest, why does it matter which server you're on? |
| 20:52.58 | Semlar | i'm creating a global channel to let my addon communicate to other people when it sees a rare die on the timeless isle and if you're in a crz group it will completely screw everything up |
| 20:53.29 | Maldivia | rare/worldboss tracking is a bitch with xrealm |
| 20:54.00 | Semlar | as far as i know the isle itself doesn't have crz enabled unless you're in a group |
| 20:54.14 | Esamynn|work | not yet! ;) |
| 20:54.40 | Maldivia | ehh, timeless isle is packed with people from other realms than myown |
| 20:54.50 | Semlar | it's retarded by the way that there isn't an api function for figuring out what realm you're on or even if you are affected by crz |
| 20:55.06 | Semlar | all of those people are probably grouped |
| 20:55.18 | Semlar | unless they started coalescing realms already |
| 20:55.32 | Maldivia | well, I see more people from other realms than my realm.. so don't think so? |
| 20:55.53 | Semlar | i can tell you the timeless isle on my server is absolutely not affected by CRZ |
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| 20:56.27 | Semlar | are you on a low pop server? |
| 20:56.33 | Maldivia | yep |
| 20:56.45 | Mr_Rabies | it's not on mine either |
| 20:56.59 | Mr_Rabies | but people do make cross realm raids for farming rares/rep |
| 20:57.15 | Semlar | if it's enabled on some servers i really can't make this work |
| 20:57.16 | Mr_Rabies | they make cross realm groups on small servers to harvest them of their rares |
| 20:59.52 | Semlar | i'm going to operate under the assumption that it's not enabled on my server and that's all that matters |
| 21:00.55 | Semlar | if it doesn't work out then i'll deal with it later |
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| 21:02.09 | Esamynn|work | foxlit: can you define "hilariously easy and unrelated ways" ? |
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| 21:04.20 | foxlit | Esamynn|work: sure, but what's the point? |
| 21:04.38 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:05.37 | Esamynn|work | interesting |
| 21:05.42 | foxlit | okay, bonus step: you must have a non-active chat tab that shows whispers. |
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| 21:07.32 | foxlit | In reality, I'm just exploiting that chat frame filters are called on a path that ends up calling UIFrameFlash to flash chat tabs at you. |
| 21:08.13 | foxlit | There's like 50 other places in framexml that call uiframeflash; touch any of those (or anything that touches those), and you get the same effect. |
| 21:08.24 | Mr_Rabies | seems the talent frame and the compact raid frames are houses made of cards, matchsticks, and nitroglycerin |
| 21:08.32 | Semlar | is party1 always the leader |
| 21:08.40 | foxlit | Semlar: what if you're the leader? |
| 21:08.42 | Maldivia | no, player can be leader |
| 21:08.44 | foxlit | They even tried to fix in 5.2 |
| 21:09.17 | Esamynn|work | oh? |
| 21:09.26 | foxlit | http://wow.go-hero.net/framexml/16650/Blizzard_TalentUI/Blizzard_TalentUI.xml/diff << largely, that's what this was about. |
| 21:11.20 | foxlit | (and http://wow.go-hero.net/framexml/16650/Blizzard_TalentUI/Blizzard_TalentUI.lua/diff ) |
| 21:11.21 | Esamynn|work | you think that was an attempt to fix the taint problem? |
| 21:12.59 | foxlit | Yes. There's no reason to replace UIFrameFlash with local animations unless you really want to avoid UIFrameFlash. |
| 21:14.15 | Esamynn|work | so, if the talent frame doesn't use UIFrameFlash anymore, why is it still getting tainted? |
| 21:14.23 | foxlit | Because it still uses UIFrameFlash. |
| 21:14.28 | Esamynn|work | ahh |
| 21:14.44 | foxlit | Which is what's hilarious -- anyone testing that change from a taint angle should've immediately noticed that it doesn't fix a thing. |
| 21:15.04 | Esamynn|work | so... maybe the change WAS NOT taint related |
| 21:15.15 | foxlit | can you think of any other reason to change it? |
| 21:15.22 | Esamynn|work | not off the top of my head, no |
| 21:15.26 | Esamynn|work | doesn't mean there isn't one |
| 21:16.27 | Esamynn|work | given that UIFrameFlash doesn't use an animation, perhaps it was a general performance improvement? |
| 21:16.42 | foxlit | This is the only instance of UIFrameFlash being replaced in that patch. |
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| 21:17.52 | Esamynn|work | doesn't mean that wasn't the goal, even if it wasn't particularly useful in that regard |
| 21:18.43 | Esamynn|work | afaik, the blizz ui developers do not test for taint, and they really don't even think about it, even though they should know better by now |
| 21:19.01 | foxlit | this was also the "we're looking to make things better with regards to taint" patch. |
| 21:19.36 | foxlit | Honestly, looking at 5.3 and 5.4, I find the incompetence explanation far more convincing than random performance improvements one. |
| 21:19.46 | Esamynn|work | perhaps they missed a spot by accident? |
| 21:20.13 | Esamynn|work | I don't have the code in front of me, so I can't see where else the talent ui is using UIFrameFlash |
| 21:20.24 | foxlit | Thing is, if you knew about the UIFrameFlash taint and attempted to patch it, it should've been obvious that the fix in 5.2 did nothing. |
| 21:20.53 | TC-Work | You keep making arguments for them to be not trying to fix it in that patch |
| 21:20.54 | Esamynn|work | I'm not a mind reader, I'm in the same guessing boat as you are |
| 21:21.27 | Esamynn|work | I'm just saying you are coming to one conclusion and you don't seem to even be considering that you might be off on a complete tangent |
| 21:21.46 | Esamynn|work | I'm also not saying you're wrong, you could easily be right |
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| 21:21.52 | Esamynn|work | I really don't know |
| 21:22.25 | Esamynn|work | anyways, I'll see if I can get this info passed along to the ppl that can fix it |
| 21:22.54 | foxlit | TC-Work: yes and no. There are two explanations here: they attempted to do something completely unrelated and came conspicuously close to fixing a known problem, or they attempted to fix a problem but messed up horribly. |
| 21:24.09 | foxlit | Looking at the 5.x change logs and GC's twitter comments, I find the latter far more likely than the former. Of course, as Esamynn points out, I don't really know which it was. |
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| 21:26.40 | foxlit | Esamynn|work: and maybe one day in 6.0 we'll see a fix for that bug. |
| 21:26.53 | Esamynn|work | anything is possible |
| 21:28.32 | foxlit | It annoys me (greatly) that the only form of publicly visible communication between the ui team and developers are those CM announcements of API tidbits and reminders not to bundle copyrighted mp3s. |
| 21:29.12 | Unkle1 | Psst, he foxlit. Don't bundle copyrighted MP3s! |
| 21:29.49 | Esamynn|work | lol |
| 21:29.51 | foxlit | This could've been fixed in 5.1 if it wasn't necessary to play chinese whispers to reach people, or even if the wowui@blizzard.com email lead to somewhere meaningful. |
| 21:36.23 | Esamynn|work | they definitely have their own priority and making life easier for us is certainly not one of their primary ones |
| 21:37.25 | Semlar | can you prevent someone from accidentally bringing up a chat channel by typing /channelNumber |
| 21:37.59 | Esamynn|work | not really, at least, not easily |
| 21:38.20 | Semlar | can you assign the number |
| 21:38.45 | foxlit | Esamynn|work: I don't think the game design team has any particular responsibility to talk to players either, yet they seem to be deriving great benefit from doing so. |
| 21:38.53 | Esamynn|work | to a new channel? no, not afaik, you can predict it |
| 21:39.08 | Esamynn|work | foxlit: I'm not saying their right in this |
| 21:39.14 | Esamynn|work | they're* |
| 21:39.24 | Semlar | i need to create a channel for addon communication but don't really want it messing with people |
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| 21:41.02 | Esamynn|work | hahah, welcome to life prior to SendAddonMessage :P |
| 21:41.10 | Semlar | this is terrible |
| 21:41.43 | foxlit | do what everyone else is doing: spam general, hide it for users of your addon. |
| 21:42.02 | Esamynn|work | erk |
| 21:42.08 | Esamynn|work | do ppl really do that? |
| 21:42.12 | Esamynn|work | that's awful |
| 21:42.18 | foxlit | Have you seen /1 in Timeless Isle recently? |
| 21:42.22 | Esamynn|work | no |
| 21:42.33 | foxlit | It's npc123123: Foobarface (38%) at (23.3, 24.5) |
| 21:42.49 | Semlar | i'm pretty sure that's silver dragon or something that someone has manually clicked a timer for |
| 21:42.51 | Esamynn|work | actually, I ahve seen that, I should have figured that one out |
| 21:42.58 | foxlit | and {star} [MyProRareCoordinatorAddon] Foobar face (100%) at (23.3, 24.5) {star} everywhere |
| 21:43.38 | foxlit | If you annoy enough people with it, maybe something good will come of it? |
| 21:43.40 | foxlit | :) |
| 21:44.54 | Esamynn|work | heh |
| 21:45.09 | Esamynn|work | anyways, I need food |
| 21:45.26 | Semlar | i just wanted to make a global channel that the addon could send death events to |
| 21:45.37 | Semlar | so it could coordinate timers on the map |
| 21:46.28 | foxlit | yes, got that. |
| 21:46.38 | foxlit | You're going to annoying someone anyway, since there's a hard cap of 10 channels. |
| 21:47.02 | foxlit | Attempting to hide your channel is probably not worth it; just don't add it to chat frames by default. |
| 21:47.20 | Semlar | who the hell uses ten channels |
| 21:47.30 | foxlit | who knows how many other addons want global comms. |
| 21:47.37 | Torhal | Ten other authors who ask the same question. |
| 21:47.38 | foxlit | If you really want to be sneaky, hook the joinchannel path and move your channel out of the way. |
| 21:47.59 | Neffi | That raises an interesting issue |
| 21:48.09 | foxlit | Can also play around with only joining the channel for a limited amount of time, e.g. 10 seconds every 5 minutes. |
| 21:48.10 | Neffi | Multiple addons doing custom channels is bad |
| 21:48.12 | Semlar | i also don't know how you would do this without a global channel unless you wanted to send a shitload of messages around |
| 21:48.44 | Neffi | Why not search around to see if there's a library for handling hidden custom channel comms. And if there isn't, write one and recommend it to other addon authors who already do this manually. |
| 21:48.46 | foxlit | look into rumor spreading? |
| 21:49.11 | Semlar | i'm not about to write it to whisper every other user of the addon to sync things up |
| 21:49.29 | Neffi | The few users who run multiple addons can end up with a broken chat because there's too many registered. A library can fix this issue. |
| 21:49.50 | foxlit | ah, but that's why you look into rumor spreading. A rather conservative amount of communication should be enough. |
| 21:50.22 | Neffi | oh, and |
| 21:50.31 | Neffi | Semlaaaaar, you don't have to put on the red light! |
| 21:50.46 | Neffi | ;) |
| 21:50.57 | Semlar | what now |
| 21:51.05 | Kalroth | haha |
| 21:51.36 | Neffi | Wait, you know Dire Straits but not The Police? |
| 21:51.38 | Neffi | wtf man |
| 21:51.53 | Neffi | You're no Sultan of Swing after all |
| 21:52.24 | Semlar | i never do it without the fez on |
| 21:53.07 | foxlit | Neffi: Why not search around to see if there's a library for handling hidden custom channel comms. << AceComm surely still exists. |
| 21:53.21 | Semlar | acecomm doesn't do this |
| 21:53.30 | foxlit | acecomm doesn't have a global channel? |
| 21:53.38 | Semlar | as far as i can tell it's literally just a wrapper for sendaddonmessage |
| 21:53.44 | Neffi | I thought AceComm was just for easy serializing of data and handling of in-built comm channels? |
| 21:54.34 | Semlar | wowace appears to currently be dead |
| 21:54.46 | foxlit | 2.0 did, in any case. |
| 21:54.55 | foxlit | That's how Dalaran University worked. |
| 21:55.35 | Neffi | Maybe they removed it because hidden addon channels are evil |
| 21:55.55 | Neffi | I say they're a necessary evil, so I'm gonna re-recommend building a lib |
| 21:56.21 | Semlar | if anything needs a lib it's this |
| 21:56.30 | Neffi | aye |
| 21:56.32 | Torhal | Neffi: Channels != AddOn channels. |
| 21:56.42 | Neffi | You know what I mean >_> |
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| 21:56.53 | Torhal | After going "WAT" I did |
| 21:57.33 | Semlar | granted i don't know how many addons actually need a global channel |
| 21:58.01 | Semlar | there are the trade forwarder type addons and the ones that sync things like zeppelin timers |
| 21:58.27 | Neffi | Anything that needs global comm? |
| 21:58.44 | Neffi | I used to maintain an addon for my guild that was essentially a search-and-destroy assistance |
| 21:58.57 | Torhal | Don't those generally go by actual AddOn channels? Guild/Party/etc? |
| 21:59.07 | Neffi | If it saw any user of an particular enemy-faction guild, it alerted everyone running the addon. |
| 21:59.19 | Torhal | Well, maybe not. There are some insane bastards out there. *cough*Semlar*cough* |
| 21:59.22 | Neffi | Our war on the Allied National Guard would not have been successful without global comm |
| 21:59.28 | Semlar | how dare you |
| 21:59.30 | Torhal | :D |
| 21:59.42 | Semlar | i'm just misunderstood |
| 21:59.48 | Torhal | ...and a map. |
| 22:00.00 | Semlar | maps have feelings too you know |
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| 22:27.34 | Cairenn | Torhal: at least make it 21, so she can have a drink. ;P |
| 22:28.31 | Torhal | Cairenn: Fake ID! |
| 22:28.37 | Cairenn | lol |
| 22:30.12 | Esamynn|work | why are we talking about getting minors drunk? |
| 22:31.16 | Torhal | Esamynn|work: Seerah is a special minor. |
| 22:33.58 | Cairenn | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?p=284814#post284814 |
| 22:34.06 | Unkle1 | I think if you told Seerah she couldn't have a drink, she'd bite your kneecaps. |
| 22:34.13 | Cairenn | lol |
| 22:37.26 | Neffi | wow |
| 22:37.31 | Neffi | Torhal looks like a viking |
| 22:37.42 | Torhal | Haha |
| 22:37.53 | Neffi | \m/ |
| 22:43.51 | Esamynn|work | ahh, now I understand |
| 22:46.52 | Cairenn | :) |
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| 22:48.57 | Unkle1 | Torhal looks like an AC/DC fan who never grew up. |
| 22:50.23 | nicoli_s | torhal grew up |
| 22:50.26 | nicoli_s | hes pretty tall |
| 22:50.49 | Unkle1 | He's like what, 5'9"? |
| 22:51.07 | Unkle1 | (I don't remember having to look up at him) |
| 22:52.21 | Torhal | 6' |
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| 22:54.12 | Unkle1 | So a bit taller than me, but not Antiarc tall. |
| 22:55.17 | Neffi | Antiarc: the standard unit for measuring the height of addon developers |
| 22:55.45 | Antiarc | I'm a wee bit outside of the norm :P |
| 22:56.10 | TC-Work | Also a type of advanced circuitry in a book series I have. |
| 22:56.14 | fewyn | BlackBerry (RIM) Plans To Fire Up To 5,000 Employees |
| 22:56.15 | Neffi | 6'2", 6'3"? |
| 22:56.16 | fewyn | RIP in peace |
| 22:56.27 | Antiarc | 6'10" |
| 22:56.32 | Neffi | oh fuck |
| 22:56.35 | Esamynn|work | lol |
| 22:57.00 | Neffi | I'll remember not to piss off you |
| 22:57.19 | TC-Work | You know the old saying, the bigger they are, the harder they fall. |
| 22:57.32 | Neffi | If you can make them fall |
| 22:57.37 | Antiarc | I try to not fall, as it is a very long way down and I have plenty of time to ponder the impending pain |
| 22:58.14 | TC-Work | but you fall at 9m/s/s |
| 22:58.59 | Esamynn|work | only on Earth |
| 22:59.44 | Neffi | Accelerate at 9.8m/s^2 |
| 22:59.45 | Unkle1 | Let's just say he crouches down , even while sitting, to make eye contact. It's a little disconcerting the first time you notice it. |
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| 22:59.51 | Neffi | That's an important distinction |
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| 23:00.17 | Neffi | Notice it? I don't think it'd be that hard to notice |
| 23:00.34 | Neffi | "Gee I never realized you're a solid foot taller than me!" |
| 23:01.02 | TC-Work | We need a pic of him next to Seerah |
| 23:01.04 | Unkle1 | He was leaning over already when I joined the first conversation I had with him. I didn't see him doing the crouch thing until later the same evening. |
| 23:03.40 | Unkle1 | Ok, home time. |
| 23:08.08 | karl_w_w | http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/digital-life/games/eb-games-apologises-over-gold-coast-cocaine-stunt-20130917-2twrr.html lol |
| 23:09.03 | Neffi | haha |
| 23:09.39 | TC-Work | I dunno, seems related to GTA5 |
| 23:11.24 | Neffi | Seems relevant to everything |
| 23:11.40 | karl_w_w | why are they explaining what sherbert is? |
| 23:11.55 | Neffi | Because they're not explaining what sherbert is |
| 23:11.59 | karl_w_w | I thought that was universal knowledge |
| 23:11.59 | TC-Work | ^ |
| 23:12.02 | Neffi | They're explaning what SHERBET is |
| 23:12.33 | karl_w_w | it's only the letter R |
| 23:12.39 | karl_w_w | why you heff to be mad? |
| 23:13.00 | Neffi | Did you just call me a heffer? |
| 23:13.03 | TC-Work | There are only 26, it's not like it's hard to remember them all |
| 23:16.25 | karl_w_w | I did remember it, I just remembered it twice |
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| 23:23.40 | Semlar-Laptop | sherbert is a valid spelling |
| 23:24.05 | TC-Work | what? sherbert is the proper spelling |
| 23:24.10 | TC-Work | sherbet is not |
| 23:24.41 | Semlar-Laptop | they both refer to the same thing |
| 23:25.18 | Semlar-Laptop | according to wiktionary it's australian |
| 23:26.34 | Fisker | oh nos this is terrible |
| 23:26.41 | Fisker | I fell asleep :( |
| 23:29.33 | Neffi | Sherbert in the US means something pretty different |
| 23:29.44 | Neffi | A milkless ice cream like snack |
| 23:33.50 | Antiarc | http://blog.occupiedlondon.org/2013/09/18/murder-of-pavlos-fissas-and-its-aftermath-updates-september-18-evening-demonstrations/ uhhhhhhh |
| 23:34.13 | Antiarc | "A large anarchist/antifascist block of 3000-4000 people is heading towards Golden Dawn’s offices in Nikaia. Golden Dawn’s offices are being smashed. People are chanting ‘the blood is running, it seeks revenge’." |
| 23:34.17 | Antiarc | Thaaaaaaaaat's not good. |
| 23:34.29 | Antiarc | I mean it's kinda good long term but short term uhhhhhh. |
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| 23:54.48 | Gnarfoz | Antiarc: why does that page say "Pawn offices are being smashed" for me, instead of what you quoted? |
| 23:54.54 | Semlar | what is golden dawn and where is nikaia |
| 23:55.23 | Gnarfoz | nazi party of greece |
| 23:55.36 | Gnarfoz | great, I killed antiarc |
| 23:55.51 | Fisker | :( |
| 23:55.56 | Fisker | prosecute the murderer |
| 23:55.58 | Semlar | come to think of it people could be rioting outside my house and i wouldn't care |
| 23:59.13 | TC-Work | Yes you would, because they might do something to your house. |
