| 00:01.43 | Clamsoda | >.< |
| 00:02.30 | Clamsoda | Yeah, it isn't very pleasing. Just the name I've used for 5+ years, so I still go by it. |
| 00:02.32 | Clamsoda | Sorry. |
| 00:02.43 | Neffi | heh |
| 00:03.21 | Clamsoda | Your name reminds me of Nefertiti. |
| 00:04.44 | Neffi | Nefertiti was cool and all, but fuck that bitch |
| 00:05.04 | Neffi | Her lack of respect for the moon god is unacceptable |
| 00:05.15 | Semlar_ | fuck the moon |
| 00:05.22 | Neffi | Semlar_: fuck you |
| 00:05.27 | Semlar_ | what has that rock ever done for us |
| 00:05.29 | Clamsoda | Clamsoda: Fuck me =X |
| 00:05.55 | Neffi | Be the great stabilizer of our orbit and tilt and basically set the stage for the stable environment we enjoy today? |
| 00:05.55 | Clamsoda | Oh you know, facilitated stable seasons and such. Not a whole lot. |
| 00:06.12 | Clamsoda | Ugly though, that's for sure. |
| 00:06.16 | Semlar_ | you think i care about seasons? |
| 00:06.20 | Neffi | Be the closest and most accessible celestial object to act as the stepping stone for our outward colonization? |
| 00:06.25 | Neffi | Be fucking beautiful? |
| 00:06.26 | Semlar_ | summer's too hot and winter's too cold |
| 00:06.34 | Clamsoda | If you live in northern Russia, there's only one season, horrible winter! |
| 00:06.41 | Neffi | Be the embodiment of some of the most beautiful and poetic gods of ancient mythology? |
| 00:07.01 | Semlar_ | IT'S A GIANT ROCK |
| 00:07.06 | Clamsoda | OUR GIANT ROCK |
| 00:07.07 | Semlar_ | IN SPACE |
| 00:07.13 | Neffi | So is earth |
| 00:07.22 | Semlar_ | no earth is here don't be ridiculous |
| 00:07.27 | Neffi | haha |
| 00:07.32 | Clamsoda | Lol |
| 00:08.10 | Clamsoda | So long as that fucker keeps intercepting meteors and comets it is fine by me |
| 00:08.16 | Neffi | that too |
| 00:08.25 | Neffi | We owe a lot to that beautiful white maiden |
| 00:08.35 | Semlar_ | that's pretty much what all those other planets are for |
| 00:08.43 | Clamsoda | Jupiter and the Moon playing some SERIOUS zone D for us. |
| 00:08.59 | Neffi | You would think that Semlar_, but then look at all the craters on the moon |
| 00:09.05 | Neffi | Those would be craters on the Eart |
| 00:09.23 | Semlar_ | yeah but earth probably has those same craters we just have like an ecosystem and shit |
| 00:09.42 | Clamsoda | Jk theyre in Russia which is already hell on Earth |
| 00:10.19 | Neffi | Also don't forget how fucking metal the moon is |
| 00:10.47 | Clamsoda | I wonder if Akhenaten ever called Nefertiti Neffi. |
| 00:10.50 | Clamsoda | How cute would that be? |
| 00:11.16 | Neffi | It got really drunk one day and fucking crashed into us. Like wtf, how did it not see us? It must've been really fucking drunk. And then it was all like "WAAAHHRRERGEGERG" and spun out into little fragments and space. But it didn't die, because that's not metal enough. Instead, it was like "fuck this I'm gonna form anew" and become the fucking moon. |
| 00:11.48 | Neffi | Well they called her Neffi on Dr Who |
| 00:11.52 | Neffi | That's enough for me |
| 00:11.55 | Neffi | That name stealing bitch |
| 00:12.02 | Neffi | When I get ahold of the Tardis I'ma go kill her |
| 00:12.15 | Clamsoda | Hrm, I don't partake in British SciFi. |
| 00:12.25 | Neffi | It's a pretty good show |
| 00:12.58 | Cairenn | 'pretty good' ? It's bloody brilliant! |
| 00:13.05 | Semlar_ | what's so great about britain anyway |
| 00:13.13 | Clamsoda | Cairenn outta left field |
| 00:13.15 | Clamsoda | Nbd. |
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| 00:14.03 | Neffi | woops |
| 00:14.03 | Cairenn | Lol, scared her out of the channel |
| 00:14.11 | Neffi | Her? |
| 00:14.17 | Cairenn | Him |
| 00:14.19 | Cairenn | You |
| 00:14.20 | Semlar_ | it |
| 00:14.21 | Cairenn | person |
| 00:14.22 | Neffi | lol |
| 00:15.23 | Semlar | stupid underscore |
| 00:15.45 | Clamsoda | It is like a little monocle for your name |
| 00:15.46 | Clamsoda | I liked it |
| 00:16.08 | Neffi | Semlar isn't fancy enough for a monocle |
| 00:16.09 | Semlar | well it's GONE |
| 00:16.30 | Neffi | GOOD |
| 00:16.38 | Semlar | GREAT |
| 00:16.44 | Neffi | AWESOME |
| 00:17.35 | Cairenn | Well alrighty then! |
| 00:17.46 | Neffi | >_> |
| 00:17.55 | Neffi | I can't oppose Cairenn |
| 00:18.01 | Neffi | Because she can ban me |
| 00:18.54 | Neffi | Cairenn: I will appease you with cute pictures: http://imgur.com/gallery/HmJ8C |
| 00:19.01 | Cairenn | Takes a lot for me to ban a person |
| 00:19.09 | Cairenn | awwww |
| 00:19.59 | fewyn | i wish someone made a mouse like the razer naga but didn't die once a year |
| 00:20.09 | Semlar | logitech? |
| 00:20.21 | fewyn | do they make one that doesn't die once a year? |
| 00:20.28 | Semlar | they make a g600 |
| 00:20.43 | fewyn | the question is does it die once a year though =p |
| 00:20.48 | Clamsoda | Steelseries has one as well. |
| 00:20.57 | Neffi | fewyn: I used to have this one. It looks just like the Naga. Lasted like 6 years. http://www.amplicomusa.com/images/product/large/powertel_500z.jpg |
| 00:21.01 | fewyn | tired of dropping a 100$ every time it dies |
| 00:21.05 | Semlar | in my experience it takes a lot to break a logitech |
| 00:21.41 | fewyn | hrm the g600 is about the same price as the naga |
| 00:22.20 | Semlar | i'm currently using the g600 but frankly i prefer just having two buttons on the side |
| 00:23.12 | fewyn | yeah i use all the buttons |
| 00:23.22 | fewyn | feels more comfortable |
| 00:23.41 | Semlar | it's just so much slower for me to use the side buttons when there's a dozen of them |
| 00:23.54 | fewyn | eh |
| 00:24.05 | fewyn | it's slower for me to use keybinds "normally" |
| 00:25.52 | Neffi | Whoever said they don't watch Dr Who |
| 00:25.56 | Neffi | This is why you should http://i.imgur.com/NBuRjLw.jpg |
| 00:26.27 | Semlar | i would go get another g9x but it would be such a waste to not use this after i bought it |
| 00:26.37 | Neffi | I like the G9x |
| 00:26.43 | Neffi | But my new favorites are Roccat |
| 00:27.01 | Neffi | Roccat Kone + or XTD are nice |
| 00:27.09 | Semlar | mine still technically works it's just that when you hold down the right button it randomly unclicks itself which makes it really hard to play warcraft |
| 00:27.50 | Neffi | Yeah, that's a known issue that eventually happens on many Logitechs, esp the G9* ones |
| 00:28.06 | Neffi | It's why I didnt buy another G9 after the first |
| 00:28.11 | Semlar | i've spilled things on it, i just assumed that probably didn't help |
| 00:28.32 | Neffi | Nah, that doesnt really affect it |
| 00:28.33 | Semlar | it made the LED go funny colors |
| 00:28.42 | Neffi | It's a physical malfunction of the switch inherent to its design |
| 00:28.44 | Semlar | it did recover after it dried out |
| 00:28.52 | Neffi | They just didnt build the G9 like some of the others |
| 00:29.08 | Semlar | well, it lasted years of heavy use |
| 00:29.19 | Semlar | i practically wore a hole in the side of the grip |
| 00:29.35 | Neffi | Mine lasted about the same. Very heavy use. |
| 00:29.46 | Neffi | I got pretty brutal with the buttons TBH. PvP gets intense in WoW |
| 00:30.16 | Semlar | i wanted to try out a mouse with more side buttons but it's not really my thing i guess |
| 00:30.52 | Neffi | I actually enjoy my CM inferno |
| 00:31.07 | Semlar | with just the two buttons i could keep my thumb there and push one of them instantly |
| 00:31.13 | Neffi | They fit a lot of buttons without just cramming them into the side. Very good button layout. |
| 00:31.47 | Neffi | Best mouse I've used yet for WoW. But I'm definitely picking up a Roccat before ESO launches. |
| 00:32.54 | Semlar | part of it's probably just muscle memory |
| 00:33.06 | Neffi | That definitely comes into play |
| 00:33.23 | Semlar | although even if i were used to where all the buttons were i still think it would be a little slower |
| 00:34.04 | p3lim | Oh my god |
| 00:34.11 | p3lim | A youtube ad got through adblock |
| 00:34.38 | Neffi | oh lord cheeses |
| 00:34.41 | Semlar | TIME TO UPDATE YOUR FILTERS |
| 00:34.44 | p3lim | !! |
| 00:35.04 | Semlar | ads are basically rape |
| 00:35.20 | p3lim | Specially forced 40 second ones for a 7 minute clip |
| 00:35.27 | p3lim | 7 second clip* |
| 00:35.31 | Cairenn | ... |
| 00:35.49 | Semlar | that's unconscionable |
| 00:36.46 | Shirik | hey Semlar |
| 00:36.51 | Semlar | hey shirik |
| 00:36.57 | Shirik | such a comparison is also unconscionable |
| 00:37.03 | Cairenn | ^^ |
| 00:37.07 | Semlar | no ads are literally rape |
| 00:37.19 | Cairenn | Semlar: seriously, stop that |
| 00:37.55 | Cairenn | Have you been raped? If no, then seriously, cut it out you have absolutely no idea how ... argh |
| 00:38.17 | Semlar | i've had to sit through commercials before |
| 00:38.23 | Cairenn | ... |
| 00:38.25 | Shirik | I don't think you get it |
| 00:38.35 | Shirik | do yourself a favor and stop talking |
| 00:39.14 | Clamsoda | p3lim: If you refresh the page it usually catches it the second time around. |
| 00:39.23 | Clamsoda | I've had it happen on YouTube and Twitch once or twice. Sad day =[ |
| 00:40.00 | p3lim | Twitch has ads? |
| 00:40.27 | Clamsoda | Streamers can play commercials |
| 00:40.43 | Clamsoda | Also; they can elect to have one play the first time you watch. |
| 00:40.47 | p3lim | But aren't those just replacements of the normal feed, not like youtube handles it? |
| 00:40.56 | Clamsoda | No. |
| 00:41.08 | p3lim | Since they actually say they will be going to commercial, like on TV |
| 00:41.12 | Clamsoda | They are caught by AdBlock. |
| 00:41.22 | p3lim | So, the video goes black in the mean time? |
| 00:41.26 | Clamsoda | No; it is an overlay of the player. No. |
| 00:41.33 | Clamsoda | You see whatever it is they are streaming. |
| 00:42.09 | p3lim | Wouldn't the most sensible thing to do is have a button that says "play commercial" somewhere and replace the feed, that way you'd be sure that everyone sees it and can't block it? |
| 00:42.10 | p3lim | :p |
| 00:42.28 | Clamsoda | =] |
| 00:42.42 | p3lim | Unless ads actually overruns mid-cast and blocks the viewer from seeing something he might need/want to see? |
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| 00:42.45 | Clamsoda | So long as I don't have to see it, they can leave it. |
| 00:43.08 | p3lim | I don't mind ads, as long as they interrupt me |
| 00:43.23 | p3lim | Like youtube that halts me for up to a minute before I can watch what I want |
| 00:43.35 | Clamsoda | I don't mind ads, if they are tucked away nicely. |
| 00:43.42 | p3lim | Basically, any ad that plays sounds is a nono |
| 00:43.52 | Clamsoda | I agree. |
| 00:44.16 | p3lim | (One of my reasons I have a custom hack to block ads on ad.fly) |
| 00:44.36 | Clamsoda | I've not had any ads get through on ad.fly. |
| 00:44.40 | p3lim | Since ad.fly has found a way to annoy people that have adblock, interrupting them further |
| 00:44.47 | p3lim | adf.ly* |
| 00:45.12 | Clamsoda | I know a lot of mod distributors for Minecraft use Ad Fly, I just get a blank page with a 5s redirect. |
| 00:45.17 | p3lim | If you enter adf.ly and have adblock, it will halt everything (multiple times sometimes) and wait for you to click "okay" |
| 00:45.23 | Clamsoda | Ahhh. |
| 00:45.26 | Clamsoda | I do get that then. |
| 00:45.33 | p3lim | That's because you have adblock |
| 00:45.41 | Clamsoda | =O |
| 00:45.43 | Clamsoda | Bastards! |
| 00:46.02 | p3lim | So I whitelisted adf.ly and added a small javascript hack to remove certain elements of the DOM on load |
| 00:46.08 | Clamsoda | =O |
| 00:46.11 | Clamsoda | Greasemonkey? |
| 00:46.13 | p3lim | Which adf.ly's anti-adblock script can't detect |
| 00:46.13 | Clamsoda | Or somesuch? |
| 00:46.48 | Clamsoda | For your implementation* |
| 00:46.49 | p3lim | I use my own version of defunkt's dotjs, but it works similar to how greasemonkey does things |
| 00:47.24 | Clamsoda | Ahh. Not heard of the former, but I am familiar with the latter. |
| 00:47.34 | p3lim | https://github.com/p3lim/dotjs-win |
| 00:48.25 | Clamsoda | Hrm, I may have to tinker with that. |
| 00:48.27 | p3lim | His original uses a host service, which is harder to implement on windows, so I tweaked it into something easier |
| 00:48.34 | Clamsoda | Yeah I read. |
| 00:48.45 | Clamsoda | Just nest the .js in the extension directory. |
| 00:48.47 | Clamsoda | Ezpz. |
| 00:48.58 | p3lim | I will be changing that soon though |
| 00:49.13 | Clamsoda | Back to a host serivce? |
| 00:49.23 | p3lim | Nah |
| 00:50.19 | p3lim | One sec, just forgot the name of this really important part of it :p |
| 00:50.29 | Clamsoda | Haha, no worries =] |
| 00:50.44 | p3lim | localStorage |
| 00:51.01 | Clamsoda | HTML5? |
| 00:51.09 | p3lim | Going to use that like a database (think SQL) to store files, and add a "sync to/from github" button to it |
| 00:51.10 | p3lim | Yeah |
| 00:51.31 | Clamsoda | Dang, that's pretty slick. |
| 00:51.33 | p3lim | Using a proper editor in the options page (like Ace) |
| 00:51.54 | p3lim | I'm already familiar with Ace, my pastebin site runs it |
| 00:52.05 | p3lim | http://paste.p3lim.net/ |
| 00:52.36 | Clamsoda | Woah |
| 00:52.42 | Clamsoda | That is a SLICK interface. |
| 00:52.49 | p3lim | :) thanks |
| 00:53.01 | Clamsoda | Woah I actually like that a lot. |
| 00:53.14 | p3lim | Has a revision system with diffs too |
| 00:53.22 | Clamsoda | O.O |
| 00:53.39 | p3lim | http://paste.p3lim.net/yic8kv/1/0 |
| 00:54.02 | Clamsoda | http://paste.p3lim.net/s7zdvz |
| 00:54.07 | Clamsoda | Test |
| 00:54.30 | p3lim | Just noticed the scrollbar is gone, gotta fix that |
| 00:54.33 | Clamsoda | The bottom-left button |
| 00:54.54 | Clamsoda | When you hover over the quotes, it say's bottom-left button; but it is situated at the right at the moment. |
| 00:55.09 | Clamsoda | Or is that something else? |
| 00:55.18 | p3lim | Typo, it used to be in the bottom left |
| 00:55.23 | Clamsoda | Got it. |
| 00:55.34 | Clamsoda | Man, that is REALLY appealing to the eyes. |
| 00:56.13 | p3lim | Glad you like it |
| 00:56.36 | Clamsoda | All the API is yours? For syntax highlighting and collapsing functions etc? |
| 00:56.43 | Semlar | it looks like pycharm |
| 00:56.47 | p3lim | I mostly made it for myself, public/school computers doesn't have much of programming editors |
| 00:56.59 | p3lim | That's the Ace editor |
| 00:57.03 | Clamsoda | Oh oh. |
| 00:57.09 | p3lim | It does the syntax highlighting etc |
| 00:57.18 | Clamsoda | I saw that you had some integrated frameworks; I wasn't sure what was handled by what. |
| 00:57.23 | p3lim | Which I plan to use for dotjs next version |
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| 00:57.54 | Clamsoda | Got it got it; everything has come full circle now. |
| 00:58.41 | Clamsoda | Are you going to add any support for linking with line / function emphasis? |
| 00:59.02 | Clamsoda | (As it stands, I will probably use this to link code if that is alright =X.) |
| 00:59.11 | p3lim | Not beyond Ace's capabilities |
| 00:59.34 | p3lim | I tried writing my own editor, but it's far too much work than I need the functions on-the-go |
| 01:00.22 | Clamsoda | Hrm. |
| 01:00.54 | Clamsoda | Noticed that links are not already parsed, and when I highlighted the link to use Google's GoTo function on Right-Click, it isn't interpreting the selected text correctly. |
| 01:01.03 | Clamsoda | Interpreted "http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetInboxHeaderInfo" as "?" |
| 01:02.46 | p3lim | Where |
| 01:03.15 | Clamsoda | http://paste.p3lim.net/s7zdvz; line 51 |
| 01:03.37 | Clamsoda | I had just noticed that links weren't parsed, so I was like: "I'll just highlight the link and right click and use Google's search, and it'll be the first result." |
| 01:03.59 | Clamsoda | But, it wants to search for "?" when "http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetInboxHeaderInfo" is highlighted. |
| 01:04.00 | p3lim | Odd |
| 01:04.40 | Clamsoda | Perhaps some weird interaction between Chrome and the particular implementation; not trying to find faults or make suggestions though. |
| 01:04.49 | Semlar | doesn't work in firefox either |
| 01:05.59 | p3lim | That would be a bug with Ace, I don't control the editor in any way, except changing some default options about plugins and theme |
| 01:06.21 | Clamsoda | Ahh. Well, it is as minor as can be =] |
| 01:06.27 | Clamsoda | I wasn't trying to nit-pick =X |
| 01:07.40 | Neffi | p3lim: That's a nice paste UI you've got. Did you write it? |
| 01:08.03 | p3lim | Neffi: Aside from the plugins/libs used, yes |
| 01:08.18 | Neffi | Ah, I see the GitHub page for it |
| 01:08.23 | Neffi | Bookmarked. |
| 01:08.41 | p3lim | Ace is amazing |
| 01:09.02 | Ressy | https://www.dropbox.com/s/ib70ju1hmomxxxp/Defamation.png |
| 01:09.05 | p3lim | Although the documentation is not the best |
| 01:09.34 | p3lim | o.O |
| 01:10.02 | Neffi | The page for Ace looks vaguely reminiscent of NP++. I like. |
| 01:10.29 | Clamsoda | It does layout quite like NP++; the color scheme is super appealing as well. |
| 01:10.34 | Clamsoda | It is REALLY nice on the eyes. |
| 01:11.04 | Neffi | Aye. NP++'s color scheme needs a little work out of the box. |
| 01:11.17 | Neffi | My favorite editor though |
| 01:11.38 | cralor | Hey Clamsoda, off topic but in your paste, I'm interested in splicing my event handlers into function as you have done so. is line 191 the functionality behind this? |
| 01:12.03 | p3lim | cralor: yes |
| 01:12.07 | Clamsoda | Not even going to lie: If my NP++ looked your pastebin's Lua, I'd be one happy clam. |
| 01:12.18 | p3lim | Clamsoda: Try sublime |
| 01:12.24 | cralor | Yeah I was going to say that p3lim |
| 01:12.30 | cralor | Thanks, also p3lim |
| 01:13.18 | Clamsoda | Cralor: Yes, line 191 is part of it. Notice that the functions are methods of eventHandler. Frames are just tables, so when event is passed in SetScript, it is referenced as the function of that event name, in the table. |
| 01:13.29 | Neffi | I'm totally stealing p3lim's color scheme for my NP++ |
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| 01:14.06 | Clamsoda | And, it can be a bit confusing: when the function is referenced as frame:Method, the "self" argument is passed implicitly |
| 01:14.07 | p3lim | Neffi: That is one of the stock themes that came with Ace, if I had my way I'd use the same theme I use for everything on my computer |
| 01:14.15 | Clamsoda | So your arguments start at event, ... |
| 01:14.27 | cralor | Clamsoda, yes, I've had a big discussion recently on syntactic sugars :P |
| 01:14.40 | Clamsoda | Hehe, got it =]. |
| 01:14.46 | p3lim | Clamsoda: It starts with what you specify, not neseccary "event" |
| 01:15.01 | Clamsoda | Correct, I was trying to be illicit in the example. |
| 01:15.02 | cralor | Clamsoda was speaking in context |
| 01:15.14 | Clamsoda | Err, not illicit. |
| 01:15.26 | Clamsoda | Specific. |
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| 01:16.32 | Neffi | Are there any programs that make Windows' inbuilt color picker not so shitty? |
| 01:16.42 | cralor | lol |
| 01:17.03 | Clamsoda | Perhaps use Photoshop to derive RGB? |
| 01:17.15 | p3lim | Neffi: https://github.com/chriskempson/tomorrow-theme/tree/master/notepad%2B%2B |
| 01:17.22 | p3lim | Last one on the list |
| 01:17.41 | Neffi | Clamsoda: I usually use a combination of programs when I'm doing color shit, but it's a pain in the ass |
| 01:17.51 | Neffi | I'd rather just have a half-decent color picker to begin with |
| 01:18.00 | Clamsoda | Right. I understand. |
| 01:18.01 | Neffi | Thank you p2lin |
| 01:18.07 | Neffi | err |
| 01:18.10 | Clamsoda | Was just trying to be solution oriented. |
| 01:19.12 | p3lim | Also: http://superuser.com/questions/342921/is-there-a-way-to-change-the-windows-default-color-picker |
| 01:22.36 | p3lim | The pastebin has a scrollbar now, should probably skin it though |
| 01:23.08 | Clamsoda | It needs a bit of style! |
| 01:23.49 | Clamsoda | Working great though. |
| 01:24.14 | p3lim | Only bad thing about the site in general is that it's horrible on older browsers or small screens |
| 01:24.31 | p3lim | It actually requires html5 |
| 01:25.00 | p3lim | And I haven't bothered writing a fallback to any of the html5 stuff |
| 01:25.08 | Clamsoda | I wouldn't worry about it to be honest. |
| 01:25.19 | Clamsoda | It is 2013; people can afford to use Google Chrome lol. |
| 01:25.30 | p3lim | I figured, if people are using old browsers, they shouldn't be there in the first place |
| 01:25.39 | p3lim | It's not like I'm trying to replace pastebin.com |
| 01:25.55 | Clamsoda | Trust me, no one who needs a pastebin with code syntax highlighting is using a browser that old. |
| 01:26.21 | p3lim | Or a screen lower than 1024x768 |
| 01:26.24 | Clamsoda | ^ |
| 01:26.35 | Clamsoda | I'm on 2 1650x1080s >.> |
| 01:26.49 | Clamsoda | Errm 1680 x 1050 |
| 01:26.52 | Clamsoda | Zzz. I suck today. |
| 01:26.59 | p3lim | 1920x1080 + 1920x1200 |
| 01:27.10 | Clamsoda | Very nice. |
| 01:28.34 | p3lim | Want to get 2x WQHD monitors some day though |
| 01:28.44 | p3lim | That's 2560x1440 |
| 01:29.15 | Clamsoda | That's some serious lateral real-estate haha. |
| 01:29.24 | Clamsoda | Certainly where it counts though. |
| 01:29.29 | p3lim | Indeed |
| 01:30.05 | Neffi | I'd rather have a really good, calibrated IPS monitor at 1920x1080/1200 than massive screen real estate but less accurate color |
| 01:30.11 | p3lim | My main concern is that I can't play games on that (with decent fps) with just 1 gfxcard |
| 01:30.35 | p3lim | My 1080p monitor is an ISP monitor, which I would keep, for games etc |
| 01:30.44 | Iriel | I went with one more accurate big monitor (30") and an adjacent less accurate (but still decent) 24" |
| 01:30.48 | p3lim | It's also larger than my other (27" vs 24") |
| 01:31.17 | Iriel | Even on 24+24 setups I logically use it as "main" and "seconday" rather than 2 equal monitors (or one big one) |
| 01:31.52 | p3lim | I don't really assign either of them as my "main" monitor, except for games where I use the 27" |
| 01:32.00 | p3lim | Or movies |
| 01:32.10 | Iriel | Movies go in the other room, on the TV. |
| 01:32.23 | p3lim | Ain't got no big-screen, dorm ftl |
| 01:32.28 | Iriel | Ah. |
| 01:34.58 | Iriel | My dorm days were a simpler time, with something like a 14" TV |
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| 01:36.18 | p3lim | ^_ |
| 01:36.27 | p3lim | Guy next door has 8 monitors |
| 01:36.39 | p3lim | No idea for what, but still an impressive setup |
| 01:37.41 | Neffi | 8 porns at once? |
| 01:38.22 | fewyn | i have 3 atm |
| 01:38.25 | fewyn | i could use 3 more |
| 01:39.13 | Iriel | I can only really pay attention to 3 |
| 01:39.23 | Iriel | though I guess if I had some vertically mounted it might be easier to add more |
| 01:39.49 | p3lim | I'd have to get a new desk to add more |
| 01:40.27 | p3lim | What engine is firefox running? webkit? |
| 01:43.54 | Clamsoda | Gecko. |
| 01:43.57 | Clamsoda | p3lim. |
| 01:44.05 | p3lim | Alright |
| 01:44.21 | Clamsoda | IE is on Trident. |
| 01:46.50 | Neffi | Opera recently retired Presto |
| 01:46.59 | Neffi | They're switching to a Chromium base |
| 01:47.47 | p3lim | Wondering what the equivalent of ::-webkit-scrollbar is |
| 01:48.36 | Clamsoda | ::-gecko-scrollbar =O? |
| 01:49.00 | Neffi | http://stackoverflow.com/questions/6165472/custom-css-scrollbar-for-firefox |
| 01:49.48 | Clamsoda | That's an oddly specific find, Neffi. Lol. |
| 01:50.00 | Clamsoda | That's literally 100% contextually relevant. |
| 01:51.26 | cralor | What's the easiest way I can access a local function from a different file? |
| 01:51.34 | cralor | e.g. for Blizz Options |
| 01:51.46 | Neffi | You can't |
| 01:51.48 | Neffi | At all |
| 01:51.50 | cralor | RIght :) |
| 01:51.59 | cralor | So just make it one file? |
| 01:52.00 | Neffi | That's why local functions exist |
| 01:52.14 | p3lim | cralor: same addon? |
| 01:52.19 | cralor | Well, I'm moving from unique function names to local ones, out of global namespace |
| 01:52.22 | Neffi | Make it global or place it in a namespace |
| 01:52.28 | Neffi | myAddon = {} |
| 01:52.31 | p3lim | Namespace would be the best bet |
| 01:52.38 | Neffi | function myAddon:publicFunction() ... end |
| 01:52.45 | Neffi | Only use one global that way |
| 01:52.53 | cralor | Alrighty. |
| 01:52.58 | Clamsoda | local AddonName, AddonTable = ... |
| 01:53.11 | Clamsoda | AddonTable is the global table for your specific addon's name space. |
| 01:53.20 | Clamsoda | Nest anything you need between files in that table. |
| 01:53.37 | p3lim | Only works within the one addon, keep that in mind |
| 01:53.42 | Clamsoda | ^ |
| 01:53.48 | Neffi | AddonTable isn't global by default |
| 01:53.50 | Neffi | Do: |
| 01:53.57 | Neffi | local name,mod = {}; _G[name]=mod |
| 01:54.06 | Neffi | err |
| 01:54.11 | Clamsoda | No reason to put it into _G. |
| 01:54.13 | Neffi | local name,mod = ...; _G[name]=mod |
| 01:54.27 | Neffi | Your public namespace? Of course there is |
| 01:54.33 | p3lim | If he wanted to have it global (like for modular addons) then that would be the way |
| 01:54.43 | Clamsoda | He said between files, not between AddOns. |
| 01:54.50 | p3lim | If not, use the namespace as-is |
| 01:54.54 | cralor | Yeah just my Options.lua |
| 01:55.12 | Clamsoda | INSIDE of your addon, use your AddOn's global table. |
| 01:55.17 | cralor | Got it. |
| 01:55.22 | Clamsoda | Ascertained via: local _, AddonTable = ... |
| 01:56.01 | p3lim | Example: https://github.com/p3lim/HabeebIt/blob/master/Encounters.lua |
| 01:56.28 | Clamsoda | Very succinct example. |
| 01:56.55 | Neffi | nevcairiel: Ever watch this? http://www.southparkstudios.com/full-episodes/s15e02-funnybot |
| 01:56.59 | Neffi | =) |
| 01:57.23 | cralor | And then in another file you could do self.GetEncounterID and it would magically work :D |
| 01:57.39 | p3lim | cralor: https://github.com/p3lim/HabeebIt/blob/master/HabeebIt.lua#L311 |
| 01:57.58 | cralor | yep |
| 01:58.20 | Clamsoda | The implementation would be to define the namespace at the top of every file. local _, ns = .... |
| 01:58.25 | Clamsoda | Well, every file that needs it. |
| 01:58.29 | cralor | Right. |
| 01:58.53 | Clamsoda | And, remember: it is just a table you are putting stuff into in one file, and calling in another. |
| 01:59.17 | p3lim | With some limitations though |
| 01:59.28 | p3lim | Afaik, you can't use it as a pairs value |
| 01:59.34 | p3lim | pairs table* |
| 01:59.37 | Clamsoda | Fair enough. |
| 01:59.52 | Neffi | Um, what? |
| 01:59.57 | Neffi | Of course you can. It's a table. |
| 02:00.20 | p3lim | On every occation I've tried using it like that, it has failed to do so |
| 02:00.34 | Neffi | That doesn't make sense |
| 02:00.47 | p3lim | My words exactly |
| 02:00.59 | p3lim | I guessed that it was a limitation and went with it |
| 02:02.02 | Clamsoda | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:02.07 | Clamsoda | Just printed correctly. |
| 02:02.13 | Clamsoda | So, I was able to iterate over it =X |
| 02:02.38 | p3lim | I don't know, maybe I did something wrong |
| 02:02.46 | p3lim | Or they changed something |
| 02:02.55 | p3lim | I haven't dabbled with wow in a year |
| 02:02.59 | Clamsoda | Might have been something to do with functions. Typically that is what is nested in it. |
| 02:03.00 | Iriel | There's nothing special about it at all, so you must have done something strange |
| 02:03.46 | Clamsoda | Whelp, time to burn you at the stake p3lim. |
| 02:03.48 | Clamsoda | Sorry pal =[ |
| 02:04.06 | Neffi | gathers kindling. |
| 02:04.31 | p3lim | Content bores me, and I don't have sufficent time to raid any more. The past few years it was just the guild I was in and addons that kept me playing |
| 02:04.46 | p3lim | Guild died, I started uni, so I just quit |
| 02:04.48 | Neffi | I feel you |
| 02:04.57 | Neffi | feels p3lim. |
| 02:05.10 | Neffi | It felt outright boring after MoP launch for me |
| 02:05.14 | p3lim | I still hang around here and on wowi though |
| 02:05.49 | Neffi | I miss playing MMOs though. I wish WoW still had that same sense of adventure and challenge |
| 02:06.04 | Neffi | waits for Elder Scrolls Online. |
| 02:06.09 | Clamsoda | They banned my main, so all I do is mess with AddOns lol. |
| 02:06.22 | p3lim | Lego is coming out with an MMO afaik D: |
| 02:06.26 | Neffi | What for? |
| 02:06.40 | p3lim | http://universe.lego.com/ |
| 02:06.42 | Clamsoda | Erm. Selling challenge modes for 6 months =/. |
| 02:06.45 | Neffi | Everyone and their mother has an MMO now since they caught on to what a cash cow they can be |
| 02:06.54 | Clamsoda | And if there is a Lego / K'nex MMO coming out I will quit WoW so fast. |
| 02:06.54 | p3lim | That thing was resurrected a few weeks back |
| 02:06.57 | Neffi | I'll wait for a quality one to come out |
| 02:07.33 | Iriel | Lego universe wasn't good. |
| 02:07.39 | Iriel | it wasn't BAD either, it was just, meh |
| 02:07.44 | p3lim | Here is the trailer for the new thing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YUf9H6lLlU |
| 02:07.49 | Clamsoda | Has to be better than the Hello Kitty MMO. |
| 02:07.51 | Clamsoda | That's for sure. |
| 02:08.32 | p3lim | Yet another Funcom game, so I'm not that psyched |
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| 02:21.13 | p3lim | Screw it, I'm just gonna replace the scrollbar entirely with a custom one |
| 02:22.00 | Clamsoda | Haha. |
| 02:22.04 | Clamsoda | That's so the spirit. |
| 02:22.36 | Clamsoda | Lemme know when you have it updated, I'll give it a whirl. |
| 02:29.41 | cralor | What's an easy-to-use and recognized Blizz Options framework currently? |
| 02:30.32 | Clamsoda | AceGUI? |
| 02:30.37 | Clamsoda | May have some implementations* |
| 02:31.29 | cralor | Do I have to be Ace dependent? |
| 02:31.39 | Semlar | do you want a framework |
| 02:32.10 | cralor | I'm currently using Portfolio. It works, but I'm getting an error (probably not its fault), but I also know it's probably not the leanest tool |
| 02:32.54 | Neffi | Could be that it's several years out of date |
| 02:33.05 | cralor | Yeah :) |
| 02:33.16 | cralor | It was working, but once I changed to namespace. issues |
| 02:33.17 | Neffi | Also I'm pretty sure you don't need to use the rest of Ace to use AceGUI |
| 02:33.25 | cralor | It's with my callbacks. I'm confused by it |
| 02:33.26 | Neffi | Should be able to use it standalone without embedding |
| 02:34.28 | cralor | I put all my functions in namespace, and refer to them in callback as 'ns:functionName', but the error is asking for arguments |
| 02:36.43 | Semlar | have you tried using a dot instead of a colon |
| 02:37.08 | Clamsoda | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPxDfGLbP4E |
| 02:37.38 | cralor | Well, if I declare my functions using the colon syntactic sugar, would I not also want to do so in callback reference? |
| 02:38.44 | Semlar | only one way to find out! |
| 02:42.45 | cralor | Semlar: actually, no affect in either case |
| 02:43.22 | Semlar | well, if you're trying to make a reference to a function in a table without actually calling it you can't use a colon |
| 02:45.09 | cralor | So, prior to this I had Name_functionName() global functions, and callback references appeared as "Name_functionName". |
| 02:45.20 | Semlar | did those work? |
| 02:45.28 | cralor | Yes |
| 02:45.38 | Semlar | your ns table is global? |
| 02:45.41 | cralor | Now I changed my functions to NS:functionName()... how would i reference these? |
| 02:45.53 | cralor | Yes, I am using the blizz addon table |
| 02:46.58 | Semlar | do you actually have quotes around the name of the callback function? |
| 02:47.07 | cralor | nope |
| 02:47.22 | cralor | https://github.com/cralor/rune-it-all/blob/master/Options.lua |
| 02:47.54 | Neffi | The only thing special about the colon syntax is that it's sugar |
| 02:47.55 | cralor | GitHub really messed up indentation, odd |
| 02:47.58 | Semlar | what's the error? |
| 02:48.16 | Neffi | function obj:func(a1) end is exactly the same as function obj.func(self,a1) end |
| 02:48.30 | Semlar | yeah but obj:func is not the same as obj.func |
| 02:48.35 | Neffi | and obj:func('test') is exactly the same as obj.func(obj,'test') |
| 02:48.42 | Neffi | So you have to figure that |
| 02:48.50 | Semlar | if you're invoking them |
| 02:48.56 | Neffi | If something might call it with a dot instead, then arg1 will be passed as `self` instead |
| 02:49.05 | cralor | https://github.com/cralor/rune-it-all/blob/master/Options.lua |
| 02:49.05 | Neffi | And vice versa |
| 02:49.26 | cralor | oops |
| 02:49.32 | cralor | http://paste.p3lim.net/96c4ib |
| 02:49.50 | Neffi | As a rule of thumb, I only declare my "own" functions with the colon syntax |
| 02:50.02 | p3lim | Why are you using ; anywhere in your code? |
| 02:50.05 | Neffi | If I expect something else to be calling stuff and won't always respect the colon syntax, I use dot |
| 02:50.34 | Neffi | His use of `;` is fine |
| 02:50.54 | Neffi | Lua tables accept both `;` and `,` as entry terminators |
| 02:52.01 | Neffi | !lua t={1;2,3;4,5}; print(t[1],t[2],t[3],t[4],t[5]) |
| 02:52.04 | Semlar | is RIA.setLocked actually defined somewhere |
| 02:52.07 | Neffi | lua> t={1;2,3;4,5}; print(t[1],t[2],t[3],t[4],t[5]) |
| 02:52.07 | lua_bot | Neffi: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 |
| 02:52.25 | cralor | https://github.com/cralor/rune-it-all/blob/master/RuneItAll.lua |
| 02:52.28 | p3lim | I know that both work, just wondering why he picked one over the other |
| 02:52.40 | Neffi | Style? |
| 02:52.57 | p3lim | cralor: You can click the line numbers on github and it will change the link to go to that line once loaded |
| 02:53.01 | Neffi | I don't understand why anyone uses semicolons in Lua but I don't bother to deter them from doing it |
| 02:53.01 | cralor | https://github.com/cralor/rune-it-all/blob/master/RuneItAll.lua#L444 |
| 02:53.05 | p3lim | :) |
| 02:53.26 | Semlar | well you have RIA localized here, i don't know if that would make a difference with your library |
| 02:55.19 | p3lim | I don't see what's wrong, but try encasing the callback in a function: callback = function(...) RIA:setLocked(...) end; |
| 02:55.26 | p3lim | See if it still happens |
| 02:55.28 | Semlar | wait |
| 02:55.35 | Semlar | this is the error from using the colon |
| 02:55.44 | Semlar | you're saying this is throwing THAT error with this code? |
| 02:56.28 | Semlar | callback = RIA:setLocked would have thrown this error |
| 02:57.04 | p3lim | The callback would be wrong anyways, because the argument passed with "callback" would have replaced "self" |
| 02:57.09 | p3lim | So he should encase it in any case |
| 02:57.13 | p3lim | wrap it* |
| 02:57.58 | Semlar | the arguments might be off but it wouldn't throw this error |
| 02:58.05 | p3lim | True |
| 02:58.29 | cralor | You're right. my changes didn't get pushed. reloaded. let me try p3lim's suggestion |
| 03:00.17 | cralor | http://paste.p3lim.net/96c4ib/2 |
| 03:00.38 | p3lim | That's with the current commit? |
| 03:01.02 | cralor | Yes, and see this: http://forums.wowace.com/showpost.php?p=326721&postcount=9 |
| 03:01.03 | p3lim | Actually, nvm, I'm not touching Portfolio :p |
| 03:01.37 | Semlar | you probably just need to change RIA:setLocked(newValue) to use a dot in RuneItAll.lua too |
| 03:02.03 | p3lim | Not if he wrapped it like I suggested |
| 03:05.39 | p3lim | Meh, screw it |
| 03:05.59 | p3lim | Until Mozilla adds support for css on their scrollbars I'm leaving it |
| 03:07.37 | cralor | Semlar: yeah, just tried that too. both cases, same thing. darn |
| 03:14.06 | Semlar | you could try callback = function(...) print(...) RIA.setLocked(RIA, ...) end |
| 03:16.41 | Semlar | it should print what arguments are being passed |
| 03:17.39 | p3lim | Might be that Portfolio is passing arguments weirdly |
| 03:19.58 | cralor | Yes, Portfolio does this for you... can you see this image: http://forums.wowace.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=4094&d=1378157549 |
| 03:20.25 | cralor | Values seem fine |
| 03:21.25 | Semlar | link is just an infinite redirect for me |
| 03:21.44 | p3lim | http://imgur.com/0SiUnoq |
| 03:21.46 | Semlar | welp now it's loading so nevermind |
| 03:22.04 | cralor | thanks p3lim |
| 03:22.26 | Semlar | i like that i have to log in through curse to get wowace's forum to log me in |
| 03:22.38 | sylvanaar_ | clear your cookies |
| 03:23.33 | Semlar | it was driving me crazy when i was trying to post something on there a long time ago because the forum still thinks you need to log in through the forum's login system |
| 03:23.41 | cralor | Here is one of the mentioned "culprits" http://paste.p3lim.net/96c4ib/3 |
| 03:23.43 | p3lim | Profiles are linked, but I have no idea what my username is on wowace :p |
| 03:23.50 | p3lim | So I log in on CF to log in on wowace |
| 03:24.09 | p3lim | I petitioned to change my username on wowace when CF opened, never happened |
| 03:24.15 | Semlar | i don't even know if the login system works for wowace |
| 03:24.31 | sylvanaar | it does |
| 03:25.06 | Semlar | you can log into it without a curse account? |
| 03:25.24 | sylvanaar | clear your cookies |
| 03:25.58 | Semlar | but i like my cookies.. |
| 03:26.06 | sylvanaar | just the wowace ones then |
| 03:26.09 | p3lim | I'm sure they taste good |
| 03:26.56 | sylvanaar | I had the same trouble about a year ago |
| 03:28.02 | Semlar | it's not really a problem since i have a curse account, it's just confusing that there are two different login methods |
| 03:30.53 | sylvanaar | cralor: that looks like a disaster waiting to happen, you just know you are going to find a table with a hole eventually |
| 03:32.33 | sylvanaar | or with something other than a frame, or missing that function |
| 03:35.47 | cralor | I'm not sure I follow |
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| 03:36.12 | cralor | or what you recommend |
| 03:40.20 | sylvanaar | making sure that you got something valid out of the table I think was what I was saying - but if there are only ever 6 items, and you put them there I guess its ok |
| 03:42.12 | cralor | I'm just confused why it's mad at for loop indexing lol |
| 03:43.09 | cralor | The struggles of better coding practices :P |
| 03:46.02 | sylvanaar | lua tables have 2 parts - or they can |
| 03:46.25 | sylvanaar | the hash and the indexed parts |
| 03:48.03 | cralor | Well, I'm slowly working on these issues. I'm going to bed. thanks p3lim, Semlar, Neffi, Clamsoda for assistance. |
| 03:48.15 | Semlar | have fun |
| 03:48.43 | cralor | Yep, I've got a running WoWAce thread if any of you wish to continue with insight/assistance, http://forums.wowace.com/showpost.php?p=326740&postcount=20 |
| 03:53.33 | sylvanaar | you wrote to the hash |
| 03:55.22 | cralor | hm? |
| 03:57.48 | p3lim | Hm, might aswell add support for userscripts.org for my next version of dotjs-win |
| 03:59.06 | cralor | sylvanaar, if you could speak a little more in-depth in a post there that would be great |
| 03:59.48 | sylvanaar | im guessing in some case you tried to access the indexed part of the table with a non number |
| 04:04.28 | sylvanaar | actually, |
| 04:04.33 | sylvanaar | eventHandler:SetScript("OnEvent", function(self, event, ...) return self[event](self, event, ...) end) |
| 04:05.07 | sylvanaar | you should change self to this or some other name |
| 04:10.00 | pompy | http://blogs.technet.com/b/microsoft_blog/archive/2013/09/02/the-next-chapter-an-open-letter-from-steve-ballmer-and-stephen-elop.aspx |
| 04:19.40 | pompy | old but http://nerdreactor.com/2013/09/01/microsoft-google-suing-government-hand-hand/ |
| 04:26.12 | Shirik | http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-13727_7-57600817-263/bug-allows-for-use-of-sudo-in-os-x-without-a-password/ |
| 04:26.21 | Shirik | "Ars Technica has found that a flaw in OS X allows the use of the sudo command without the need for a password. If you set the Mac's clock back to January 1, 1970, (the epoch, or logical "beginning of time" for Unix systems), apparently you can use the sudo command to gain root access and use it without authenticating." |
| 04:26.23 | Shirik | How does that even happen |
| 04:26.35 | Fisker | lol |
| 04:26.44 | Semlar | Y2K |
| 04:27.13 | Fisker | I wonder if it's by design |
| 04:27.19 | Fisker | because it probably is :( |
| 04:32.40 | sylvanaar | that is funny |
| 04:41.09 | Neffi | OS X also doesn't require sudo to change the password IIRC |
| 04:41.13 | Neffi | errr |
| 04:41.15 | Neffi | change the time |
| 04:41.26 | Neffi | That first one would be fucking scary |
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| 04:47.22 | Shirik | lol |
| 04:47.28 | Shirik | don't know root's password? |
| 04:47.31 | Shirik | it's fine, just change it |
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| 05:12.58 | Stanzilla | pretty sad that nokia was cheaper than skype for MS |
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| 05:29.32 | jleclanche | anyone around with star citizen on windows? (the hangar module) |
| 05:29.36 | jleclanche | fewyn? |
| 05:29.59 | Fisker | I am but at work |
| 05:30.28 | Fisker | it fucked up my desktop gamma if that's what you're wondering |
| 05:33.15 | jleclanche | ill just fire up w7 |
| 05:33.16 | jleclanche | brb |
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| 05:53.23 | Neffi | http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/09/microsoft-buys-nokias-phone-business-for-7-1-billion/ |
| 05:53.30 | Neffi | Microsoft's got their own retarded lion now |
| 06:13.17 | Neffi | http://i.imgur.com/a4XY5.jpg |
| 06:16.33 | jleclanche | Fisker: https://mediacru.sh/Bk_ojoyIvMpX |
| 06:16.34 | jleclanche | ON WINE |
| 06:16.38 | jleclanche | kd3: ^ |
| 06:16.54 | jleclanche | this works so well |
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| 06:17.01 | jleclanche | the sign in page has a few graphical issues |
| 06:17.11 | jleclanche | but other than that, omg |
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| 06:32.04 | Neffi | this doesnt stop being funny http://i.imgur.com/OmeIU.gif |
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| 06:48.55 | Neffi | http://i.imgur.com/x7g14F8.jpg |
| 06:48.57 | Neffi | so cute |
| 07:06.31 | bleeter | oO http://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/bwwpvp7od9v3v52/2013-09-03%20at%201.30%20PM.png |
| 07:09.16 | Neffi | .. |
| 07:13.27 | rid_ | mornin |
| 07:21.50 | p3lim | Gah, never made a table tag in html before, wondering how I should style it |
| 07:27.04 | haste | table tag? tag cloud? |
| 07:38.01 | bluspacecow | http://theworstthingsforsale.com/ |
| 07:38.11 | bluspacecow | p3lim you need to start with the legs |
| 07:38.20 | bluspacecow | then continue to the top of the table |
| 07:38.52 | zenzio | p3lim: how do you want it to look? Pure tables can be tricky to make look good if you want anything "advanced" |
| 07:40.22 | bluspacecow | glass tables are hard |
| 07:43.07 | zenzio | but brittle |
| 07:54.21 | zenzio | http://slashdot.org/story/13/09/03/0526231/official-microsoft-to-acquire-nokia-devices-and-services-business :-o |
| 07:54.39 | zenzio | apparently they paid less for Nokia than for Skype |
| 07:59.33 | Fisker | well of course |
| 07:59.44 | Fisker | i also pay less for a candybar in the store than a gold ferrari |
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| 08:23.17 | bleeter | will be interesting to see which patents ms get out of it |
| 08:23.41 | bleeter | and which nokia keep |
| 08:24.47 | zenzio | Qt was no longer part of Nokia, was it? |
| 08:25.03 | bleeter | nah, it got flogged about a year ago or so |
| 08:25.10 | p3lim | zenzio: Something like a file explorer in an OS, list-style |
| 08:25.34 | zenzio | that doesn't sound too tough |
| 08:25.35 | p3lim | Been working on the database part in the meantime |
| 08:25.45 | p3lim | Probably not, just haven't touched that before |
| 08:25.58 | p3lim | And I hate positioning in html/css |
| 08:26.04 | bleeter | zenzio: iirc to the company that had been contracted to support it or something similar like that, this was around the time symbian got flogged |
| 08:26.05 | zenzio | you clearly didn't make websites before 2000 |
| 08:26.21 | p3lim | Don't even think I had a computer before 200 |
| 08:26.24 | p3lim | +0 |
| 08:26.37 | zenzio | until 2000+ just about every website was made in tables |
| 08:26.43 | bleeter | fucking eternal september |
| 08:26.53 | zenzio | eternal September? |
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| 09:13.22 | Neffi | http://i.imgur.com/Hkz81L6.jpg |
| 09:13.25 | Neffi | wow |
| 09:14.40 | AcidWeb | Another person who dont know word "backup" |
| 09:14.53 | Cairenn | Ouch |
| 09:15.55 | zenzio | I do feel bad for the guy, but yeah... |
| 09:16.22 | rid_ | how dumb is that |
| 09:16.35 | Neffi | Important life lesson learned |
| 09:16.49 | Neffi | I hope he doesn't make those kinds of mistakes as a Barista |
| 09:16.50 | Fisker | yeah |
| 09:16.59 | Fisker | we lost the cure for cancer and aids and what not over here |
| 09:17.04 | Fisker | atleast thats what they said to the media |
| 09:17.07 | Fisker | D: |
| 09:17.21 | rid_ | hugs ` |
| 09:17.23 | rid_ | err |
| 09:17.26 | rid_ | hugs Fisker |
| 09:17.29 | zenzio | hey, could be worse. He could have forgotten the greatest song in the world |
| 09:17.50 | Neffi | Is this the real life? |
| 09:18.00 | zenzio | is this just fantasy? |
| 09:18.08 | Neffi | Caught in a landslide |
| 09:18.20 | Humbedooh | No escape from Fiskerality |
| 09:18.22 | Neffi | wait i dont remember the lyrics |
| 09:18.33 | zenzio | I believe you were right |
| 09:18.33 | Neffi | it's like 4 am, approx 36 hours since i slept |
| 09:18.39 | Fisker | :( Humbedooh |
| 09:18.45 | Humbedooh | :( Fisker |
| 09:20.10 | Kalroth | fisker was in on microsoft buying nokia, he made a bazillion from insider stock trades |
| 09:21.37 | Neffi | Fisker is a Finn? |
| 09:22.10 | Kalroth | no he's a microsoft mole |
| 09:22.22 | Kalroth | him and stephen planned the death of nokia |
| 09:22.27 | Neffi | oh that's much better |
| 09:24.47 | p3lim | Neffi: That guy obviously never heard of dropbox :/ |
| 09:26.05 | Neffi | Maybe he's concerned about the integrity of storing his files on large collections of evaporated water that threaten to collapse when they swell up too large? |
| 09:29.02 | Neffi | http://i.imgur.com/8fMEdjD.gif |
| 09:29.07 | Neffi | I love cats |
| 09:35.35 | zenzio | Mr. T pities the fool who doesn't like cats |
| 09:37.25 | Neffi | My apprentice in evildoing doesn't like cats. I almost disowned him when I heard this. |
| 09:38.03 | Neffi | That sounds suspiciously like I'm calling him my boyfriend. For the record I'm not. |
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| 10:23.56 | Clamsoda | Good morning. |
| 10:26.17 | zenzio | hi |
| 10:44.37 | jleclanche | cbreak: o great git guru, if I have "git rebase upstream/master" but instead want to rebase onto upstream tag "1.0", how may i do this? |
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| 10:50.55 | karl_w_w | http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-23925367 |
| 10:51.06 | karl_w_w | which of these people should win an election? |
| 10:52.23 | jleclanche | kd3: http://dpaste.com/1364556/ |
| 10:52.53 | jleclanche | I think my distro is going to kill me for applying that many patches to a software |
| 10:54.28 | Neffi | http://i.imgur.com/lgQEo.gif |
| 10:54.33 | Neffi | this didn't work at all when i tried it |
| 10:54.35 | Neffi | warning: do not |
| 10:55.07 | phelps | you would need to be sure the bottle was full with the gas |
| 10:55.30 | Neffi | Well gladly it wasn't glass. I might've died. |
| 10:55.34 | Neffi | I just ruined a bottle |
| 10:56.09 | phelps | you'd also need a very cool burning gas |
| 10:56.17 | Neffi | jleclanche: I bet you it breaks |
| 10:56.19 | phelps | like MIBK |
| 10:56.32 | Neffi | I'm not a chemist, I only pretend to be |
| 10:57.13 | karl_w_w | Neffi, that looks much cooler as a video |
| 10:57.24 | Neffi | You have the source? |
| 10:57.29 | zenzio | "(unset) - cast to NULL (PHP 5) -- Casting a variable to null using (unset) $var will not remove the variable or unset its value. It will only return a NULL value." - I wonder what the use case was for this |
| 10:57.48 | phelps | haha |
| 10:57.50 | zenzio | inb4 lulzphp |
| 10:58.03 | nevcairiel | lulzphp |
| 10:58.08 | Neffi | in after lulzphp |
| 10:58.18 | nevcairiel | a job well done |
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| 11:06.05 | karl_w_w | can't find it Neffi |
| 11:06.17 | karl_w_w | it's on the you tubez somewhere |
| 11:06.23 | Neffi | it's alright, i'm busy being a Sultan of Swing |
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| 11:19.06 | cbreak-work | jleclanche: you can rebase again. Maybe specifying a merge base |
| 11:19.23 | jleclanche | cbreak: i got it :) --onto was what i was looking for |
| 11:19.30 | cbreak-work | yes :) |
| 11:43.23 | Xandr | is us.battle.net down or is just my connection being silly? |
| 11:44.33 | Kalroth | http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/us.battle.net |
| 11:45.53 | Xandr | Yeah, I did that right after I realized that I asked a rather stupid question. |
| 11:46.55 | zenzio | I bet there are people who run scripts checking for those "down for everyone"-sites every minute so they can spam Twitter with "lol downforeveryone is down" |
| 11:47.09 | zenzio | goes to set up a script... |
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| 12:30.00 | Neffi | isup.me/isup.me |
| 12:32.57 | Clamsoda | p3lim: I took a look at the scroll bar implementation on your paste bin; very nice =]. |
| 12:33.19 | p3lim | It's ok on chrome, though only works on webkit platforms |
| 12:33.59 | Clamsoda | Ah, well I was viewing from Chrome. |
| 12:36.06 | p3lim | Gecko has no css manipulation in place |
| 12:36.28 | p3lim | Opera does, but I was bored of googling |
| 12:40.07 | Stanzilla | opera is chrome |
| 12:40.21 | p3lim | Opera uses webkit? |
| 12:40.31 | Stanzilla | blink, yes |
| 12:40.44 | p3lim | Since when? |
| 12:40.51 | Stanzilla | version 15 |
| 12:40.55 | p3lim | Oh |
| 12:41.06 | p3lim | Coolio, then I won't add more support |
| 12:41.10 | p3lim | 3/4 aint bad |
| 12:42.10 | Stanzilla | their stable 12 won't update to 15 stable for a while though |
| 12:42.34 | p3lim | Does opera have forced updates like chrome? |
| 12:42.39 | Stanzilla | not that it matters for the 12 opera users out there |
| 12:42.45 | Stanzilla | yes, from 15 onwards |
| 12:42.49 | p3lim | Good |
| 12:43.14 | mitch0 | erm, _that_ opera is not the real opera yet |
| 12:44.45 | Clamsoda | p3lim: Can you grab me the link to your pastebin's Lua styling? |
| 12:44.58 | Clamsoda | You linked the Git page yesterday but I didn't get around to looking at it >.< |
| 12:45.19 | p3lim | It's not Lua-specific |
| 12:45.32 | Clamsoda | Well; the theme file in general =X |
| 12:45.47 | p3lim | https://github.com/chriskempson/tomorrow-theme |
| 12:46.08 | Clamsoda | You're the best <3. Thank you sir. |
| 12:46.19 | Stanzilla | I always get mad when I see OS X's font rendering |
| 12:46.41 | p3lim | I get mad seeing OSX in general :3 |
| 12:46.56 | stuf | lel cleartype |
| 12:48.16 | Stanzilla | it looks betterthan windows |
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| 12:48.44 | stuf | cleartype rustles my jimmies too much, with its nonlinear glyph scaling |
| 12:50.40 | Stanzilla | that Menlo font is cool though |
| 12:51.10 | p3lim | don't like fonts that soft myself |
| 12:51.34 | stuf | i usually just do a defaults fontSmoothing 0 on OSX, to get that nice, crisp antialias |
| 12:52.57 | p3lim | using Dina everywhere I can |
| 13:01.28 | zenzio | http://imgur.com/psRgPgH |
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| 13:26.32 | nevcairiel | hey haste, you always know these things, good mechanical keyboard with illuminated keys? |
| 13:26.51 | nevcairiel | preferably available in german key layout =p |
| 13:38.29 | zenzio | just backlit, or so the symbols also light up |
| 13:38.31 | zenzio | + ? |
| 13:39.32 | nevcairiel | ideally only the symbols =P |
| 13:40.56 | zenzio | might not be quite what you're looking for, but I use this, and I'm very happy with it: http://www.qpad.com/products/keyboards/mk-80/ |
| 13:42.15 | nevcairiel | that doesnt look too bad |
| 13:42.31 | nevcairiel | they even have german layout |
| 13:43.56 | nevcairiel | i have a das keyboard right now, but i do miss the backlit keys in some dark nights |
| 13:45.44 | zenzio | I know what you mean; had that same issue |
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| 14:27.59 | Xandr | Doesn't the CoolerMaster QuickFire series come with german layout too? |
| 14:28.06 | mikma | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnGNxjyz2ik :DD |
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| 14:46.08 | bluspacecow | http://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=ihzbQ0DESVg&t=2m41s |
| 14:46.10 | bluspacecow | :( |
| 14:46.15 | bluspacecow | puppy has nightmare! |
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| 15:18.40 | TC-Work | ~ping |
| 15:18.40 | purl | ~pong |
| 15:18.52 | karl_w_w | I'll bet |
| 15:19.56 | TC-Work | ~lart karl_w_w |
| 15:19.56 | purl | smacks karl_w_w up side the head with a clue-by-4 |
| 15:20.35 | karl_w_w | TC-Work, metro 2033 is one scary game |
| 15:21.16 | karl_w_w | but not crap-your-pants fear of the unknown, it's more a fight for survival |
| 15:27.12 | TC-Work | karl_w_w: umm...sure. |
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| 15:32.44 | mikma | karl_w_w: tried alan wake? |
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| 15:36.38 | karl_w_w | no mikma |
| 15:36.54 | karl_w_w | I haven't played most games :P |
| 15:37.34 | karl_w_w | like recent games I have played are diablo 3 and... |
| 15:37.36 | karl_w_w | yeah |
| 15:38.00 | mikma | karl_w_w: if you got the time to try it, do so. it's freaky as hell |
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| 15:40.29 | pompy | https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=675756825787652&set=a.133548883341785.20130.133409023355771&type=1 |
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| 15:46.01 | Shirik | BBC - A London skyscraper dubbed the Walkie-Talkie has been blamed for reflecting light which melted parts of a car parked on a nearby street. |
| 15:46.44 | mikma | oh wow |
| 15:47.13 | Shirik | http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/69625000/jpg/_69625278_light.jpg |
| 15:47.18 | Shirik | that's crazy |
| 15:47.26 | Shirik | http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-23944679 |
| 15:47.32 | mikma | oh wow |
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| 15:47.43 | mikma | FIRE ZE LAZORZ |
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| 16:00.57 | Shirik | kd3: This is sad :( |
| 16:01.07 | Shirik | the page with the most revisions was w:Wikipedia:Administrator intervention against vandalism with 931589 revisions, and the runner up was w:Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents with 685298 revisions. |
| 16:01.23 | Shirik | Slightly more amusing: In the main name space the page with the most revisions was w:George W. Bush with 45092 revisions, and not too far behind it was w:List of WWE personnel with 37403 revisions. |
| 16:01.24 | mikma | shirik: oh, not nickelback |
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| 16:05.55 | Unkle | Re: The reflective building story - A bank building in downtown Toronto faced a law suit after they put gold filmed windows on their tower to reduce building cooling costs by reflecting more light. The neighbors sued because their costs all went up from bealing with the extra heat. |
| 16:09.07 | Shirik | rofl |
| 16:09.57 | Unkle | I was amused by the story. |
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| 17:04.41 | airtonix | Shirik: bbc only cover apple related stories... so there must an angle to it. |
| 17:04.57 | airtonix | get it? angle... oh i kill myself. |
| 17:09.10 | ccox | what sort of incompetent architect designs a parabolic mirror into a building? And how the eff does that pass any sort of review? |
| 17:09.23 | airtonix | because murica |
| 17:10.03 | Semlar | but.. it's in london.. |
| 17:10.08 | airtonix | doesn't matter |
| 17:10.33 | airtonix | also they probably never assumed the sun would ever shine |
| 17:10.45 | Shirik | I mean, it's in London, so that's a reasonable expectation |
| 17:10.52 | Semlar | why don't they just put in windows that don't reflect like a giant mirror |
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| 17:12.43 | nicoli_s | thats not as cool |
| 17:12.58 | Semlar | in that case they should make them more reflective |
| 17:13.04 | ccox | air - it is in London, so you might have a point |
| 17:13.33 | ccox | there ya go - make the problem worse, and turn it into a tourist attraction! |
| 17:14.47 | Semlar | i like the picture of people just walking through the super bright pinpoint of light |
| 17:15.16 | Semlar | and the other people walking toward it staring at the building |
| 17:16.04 | Fisker | dafuq |
| 17:16.08 | Fisker | android kitkat |
| 17:16.25 | Fisker | this is our punishment for speculating on codenames isn't it? |
| 17:16.40 | airtonix | isn't that a trademark> |
| 17:17.20 | nicoli_s | the cars that are shined on should just be as reflective |
| 17:18.41 | Fisker | yes airtonix |
| 17:21.54 | Unkle | Best solution: Purchase the property affected, set up a giant pile of combustibles, and make it a tourist attraction. |
| 17:22.43 | ccox | "Burning Men UK" |
| 17:22.58 | Unkle | "On this spot, weather permitting, this pile of flammables will be ignited by the power of the Sun, reflected by the 'Walkie Talkie Building'." |
| 17:23.28 | Unkle | No flash photography, please. |
| 17:26.56 | airtonix | i would lawyer that shit right up |
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| 17:58.16 | Semlar | i don't suppose the entire timeless isle is phased |
| 18:22.33 | TC-Work | Uh, why is the apple mac accessory page selling fiber cables? |
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| 18:50.04 | jleclanche | say that I have "HTTP/1.0 200 OK\r\nDate: ...\r\n...\r\nContent-Type: foo/bar" |
| 18:50.11 | jleclanche | and I only want "foo/bar" |
| 18:50.25 | jleclanche | through sed, without invoking a second process (like grep) |
| 18:50.51 | jleclanche | sed -ir 's/Content-Type: (.+)/\1/' gets me what i want but it leaves the other lines |
| 18:51.04 | nevcairiel | thats seds problem, its a line-based processor |
| 18:53.00 | jleclanche | aha! |
| 18:53.03 | jleclanche | i can use -n and p |
| 18:53.05 | Fisker | you can solve that problem using regex |
| 18:53.07 | jleclanche | sed -nr 's/Content-Type: (.+)/\1/p' |
| 18:53.15 | Fisker | (now you have two problems) |
| 18:53.18 | jleclanche | ~sed++ |
| 18:55.37 | Dagmar | Not with one that short |
| 18:55.58 | Dagmar | That's the sort of regex one shows freshman so as not to scare them off |
| 18:55.58 | Stanzilla | Arrowmaster kd3, do you guys watch shingeki no kyojin? |
| 18:56.27 | Dagmar | However, I do see the _one_ problem there... |
| 18:56.50 | Dagmar | ".+" is generally non-greedy, so... lemme guess. It's printing one character. |
| 18:56.53 | TC-Work | http://florida.arrests.org/index.php?flag=Hottie That's amusing. |
| 18:56.57 | Fisker | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKOrkLxOBoY <-yeeeeeeees |
| 18:59.58 | Dagmar | jleclanche: I've no idea why it's working right with + instead of * because it probably shoudn't, but _that's_ one of the reasons people hate regexes so much |
| 19:00.35 | jleclanche | jleclanche: + is greedy, its * thats nongreedy |
| 19:00.40 | jleclanche | at least in pcre... dunno about sed |
| 19:01.42 | Dagmar | Someday I'll get up the nerve to cut open that goat and really learn regexp properly... from the Elder Gods |
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| 19:02.53 | jleclanche | http://dpaste.com/1364979/ |
| 19:02.56 | jleclanche | holy shit bing |
| 19:02.56 | Dagmar | jleclanche: Ugh. It's worse than I'd even suspected. They're both greedy. |
| 19:03.07 | jleclanche | Dagmar: that sounds right too |
| 19:03.12 | Dagmar | ? makes them non-greedy. I got that all turned around in my head |
| 19:03.23 | Dagmar | I was thinking + means zero or one matches. |
| 19:03.27 | Dagmar | Time for more caffiene |
| 19:03.29 | jleclanche | yeah |
| 19:03.31 | jleclanche | thats * |
| 19:03.37 | Semlar | ? means zero or one matches by itself |
| 19:03.40 | jleclanche | i think you're confused because + is the opposite of ? when used separately |
| 19:03.58 | jleclanche | Semlar: ? and + can be used after a regex token in order to change their greediness |
| 19:04.01 | Semlar | + means one or more matches |
| 19:04.02 | Dagmar | Well, + is one or more where * is zero or more |
| 19:04.02 | jleclanche | greedyness? |
| 19:04.03 | jleclanche | greed. |
| 19:04.11 | Dagmar | More caffiene is needed, definitely |
| 19:04.18 | Stanzilla | rolls greed on jleclanche's balls |
| 19:04.23 | jleclanche | Semlar: like .+? |
| 19:04.27 | Semlar | i know |
| 19:04.35 | jleclanche | or .?+ |
| 19:04.42 | jleclanche | i see how this can get confusing. |
| 19:04.45 | Dagmar | .?+ == teh satan |
| 19:04.49 | Semlar | i'm saying the question mark by itself matches only zero or one times |
| 19:04.57 | Dagmar | I'm not sur ethe latter is even valid |
| 19:05.10 | jleclanche | Dagmar: its valid, its just useless |
| 19:05.37 | jleclanche | greed of 0 or 1 is always 0 or 1 |
| 19:07.05 | Dagmar | This is one of those goddamn uses that only works in pure POSIX implementations, isn' tit |
| 19:07.07 | Alram | fuck you Stanzilla |
| 19:07.28 | Stanzilla | ok fuck you, too |
| 19:07.37 | Stanzilla | I was looking in the wrong channel |
| 19:09.36 | jleclanche | Dagmar: further challenge. creating an HTTP HEAD request that follows redirects on curl |
| 19:17.41 | Dagmar | Curl should follow those anyway |
| 19:18.02 | Dagmar | ...assuming the thing even responds 403 |
| 19:18.13 | jleclanche | you mean 301 |
| 19:18.24 | Dagmar | Actually I meant 302 |
| 19:18.31 | Dagmar | Only noobs use 301. ;) |
| 19:18.47 | Humbedooh | depends on the context |
| 19:18.54 | jleclanche | try this: curl -svIX HEAD http://bing.com |
| 19:19.01 | Humbedooh | uses 301 quite a lot :3 |
| 19:19.18 | Dagmar | I just have too many windows open right now to type accurately. The only one I really care about is the window where I'm filling in the app to apply for my same job in a different department for a lot more money and even less bullshit |
| 19:19.40 | Dagmar | Humbedooh: We almost never have temporary redirects here. We have redundancy so we don't have to do that |
| 19:20.30 | Humbedooh | well, I work on httpd and other web services, so I kind of have to test a lot of different scenarios :) |
| 19:20.38 | Humbedooh | for guides, documentation and what not |
| 19:20.50 | Humbedooh | is siiiiick of writing documentation today :C |
| 19:21.07 | Dagmar | I'd love to have time to write documentation again |
| 19:28.07 | Fisker | why does Microsoft do this to me? |
| 19:28.52 | Fisker | if you try to install fonts via scripts the actual file is different from the registration |
| 19:28.58 | Fisker | so if you delete the file the registration remains |
| 19:29.06 | Fisker | which asks you to replace it |
| 19:29.14 | Fisker | and apparently you can't force that shit |
| 19:34.30 | pompy | haha skyrim mods ftw https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=550336468354382&set=a.414413855279978.99986.276710412383657&type=1 |
| 19:36.17 | Fisker | i missed half of world war z for this :( |
| 19:36.46 | nicoli_s | that movie any good? |
| 19:37.07 | Stanzilla | it's "meh" |
| 19:37.12 | nicoli_s | lol its a dr who mickey mouse jedi |
| 19:37.53 | Fisker | was boring |
| 19:38.16 | Fisker | pretty obvious plot too |
| 19:38.37 | pompy | Fisker: speaking of world war z https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=550314455023250&set=a.414413855279978.99986.276710412383657&type=1 |
| 19:38.50 | Fisker | yeah |
| 19:38.52 | Stanzilla | old |
| 19:38.53 | Stanzilla | :) |
| 19:39.55 | nicoli_s | ha |
| 20:01.16 | Fisker | btw jleclanche |
| 20:01.23 | Fisker | why jleclanche ? |
| 20:03.34 | Stanzilla | he's a serious guy now |
| 20:03.49 | Fisker | I'm serious too |
| 20:03.59 | Stanzilla | btw fisker my client now highlights "%name%?" |
| 20:04.05 | Stanzilla | so you can stop |
| 20:04.55 | Fisker | out of my hands Stanzilla |
| 20:05.30 | Stanzilla | ;/ |
| 20:05.40 | Fisker | :( |
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| 20:18.30 | jleclanche | Fisker: why what? |
| 20:18.47 | Fisker | why change nicks? |
| 20:19.07 | jleclanche | i use this one in another channel and im tired of switching between both |
| 20:34.38 | TC-Work | Huh, I was going to complain about greabox doing nothing but making an 'HD' version of Homeworld, but then I realized it is a way of funding a new Homeworld game as well as a gudge of how many people want the game. |
| 20:34.50 | TC-Work | judge* |
| 20:35.22 | TC-Work | maybe I meant gauge. |
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| 20:51.39 | Shirik | ..................... |
| 20:51.47 | Shirik | I swear our IT is the worst ever |
| 20:52.09 | zenzelezz | how so? |
| 20:52.23 | TC-Work | Don't get him started |
| 20:53.19 | Shirik | so |
| 20:53.29 | Shirik | someone sent in a ticket to help log into this system |
| 20:53.49 | Shirik | they forwarded the ticket (in the form of an email) saying "<app> admin, can you please assist with this request?" |
| 20:54.00 | Shirik | Kinda makes sense, except that they sent it to every user of the system |
| 20:54.22 | Shirik | so not only do they not have the ability to fix the problem |
| 20:54.29 | Shirik | they also don't know the difference between users and admins |
| 20:54.39 | Arrowmaster | Stanzilla: i was watching it for about the first 8 episodes then i started reading the manga |
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| 21:14.06 | bleeter | Shirik: that's nothing. at one stage, Oracle internal platform deployment forgot to replace the Pidgin Support contact info with their internal contact details |
| 21:14.21 | bleeter | Shirik: you can imagine how that went down when their employees started contacting our mail lists and IRC |
| 21:14.42 | Shirik | nice |
| 21:15.57 | bleeter | you can imagine how most of these people reacted when we told them to go annoy someone else ;) |
| 21:18.49 | Shirik | haha, someone replied to the email |
| 21:18.53 | Shirik | "Would you like me to call MISHelpDesk? :)" |
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| 22:03.51 | Unkle | When I was a programmer at AOL, my name was in the NOCs "call list" for stuff related to my products. The graveyard shift mostly had people who were timid and working on international issues. I used to get a lot of3am calls because I was the "least scary" of the dev team. But I was also unable to help in most cases. |
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| 22:25.08 | kd3 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:25.10 | kd3 | yay progress |
| 22:34.58 | Unkle | What's rebuilding? |
| 22:35.15 | Humbedooh | rather rebuilding than resilvering ;) |
| 22:35.18 | kd3 | my anime storage raid |
| 22:35.30 | Humbedooh | oh, well, same thing then |
| 22:40.11 | Unkle | And how many terabytes are we talking here? |
| 22:41.02 | kd3 | this is an old raid... 1.5TB on 500gb drives |
| 22:41.07 | Unkle | Ah. |
| 22:41.11 | kd3 | I'm saving up to build a new one out of 2TB drives |
| 22:41.31 | Arrowmaster | my raid of 1TB drives was full a year ago |
| 22:42.46 | Arrowmaster | i think ill just start raid1'ing some enterprise drives in sets of 2 in the future, easier to upgrade |
| 22:43.07 | kd3 | eh, the raid isn't all I've got. I've got a bit over 4TB of total storage in this system, but yah, I'm probably not going with raid5 again |
| 22:43.22 | Unkle | I have 5TB of mostly empty drive space. None of it in raid anything. I'm figuring mostly it'll end up full of the stuff I buy on Amazon or iTunes. |
| 22:43.31 | Arrowmaster | yeah i spent way too much on a raid6 that got full quickly |
| 22:44.44 | Arrowmaster | i may also opt for building my own NAS too |
| 22:46.05 | Unkle | I'm considering that. But as I'm the only one using stuff, and I can stream from my PC to my TV or laptop pretty painlessly now, I haven't really felt the need. |
| 22:48.28 | Arrowmaster | ive been using a laptop for a year now, i dont know what ill do when i go back to a powerful desktop with noisy fans |
| 22:48.56 | Unkle | *nod* |
| 22:48.57 | kd3 | don't buy bottom-of-the-barrel fans, go for something a little quieter? |
| 22:49.31 | Arrowmaster | i didnt last time |
| 22:49.56 | Arrowmaster | but the lack of the steady hum was weird for a while and now im used to it |
| 22:54.50 | Unkle | I need quieter fans for my current box. Bust as the box is nearly 3 years old, I'm also just considering building a new one and passing this one off to a relative who won't notice the noise anyway. |
| 22:55.53 | Unkle | And on that note; home times. |
| 23:00.15 | TC-Work | I have no problems with loud fans. Doubles as white noise. |
| 23:10.14 | Esamynn|work | TC-Work: DEATH TO WHITE NOISE! |
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| 23:12.08 | Esamynn|work | Arrowmaster: the removal of the fan hum was the goal of my last system and the reason I experiment with water cooling.... up side, I was more or less sucessful in creating a silent system.... downside... watercooling |
| 23:13.31 | TC-Work | On my new system i have water but only for the cpu |
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| 23:26.53 | kd3 | wait, what? Kit-Kat? not Key Lime Pie? |
| 23:30.37 | Arrowmaster | i know right |
| 23:30.54 | kd3 | though I've gotta give nestle credit for the quick turnaround: http://www.kitkat.com |
| 23:31.20 | Arrowmaster | it was planned out |
| 23:31.32 | Arrowmaster | theres no way google would have used the name without permission |
| 23:33.07 | TC-Work | I'm unhappy at kitkats 'Unlimited Standby Time' |
| 23:33.15 | TC-Work | unlike the same thing on a smartphone. |
| 23:33.31 | Arrowmaster | and theres even a thing to win a nexus7 or play store credit |
| 23:34.27 | Arrowmaster | the small print isnt very small |
| 23:36.01 | Neffi | It looks like we're gonna be using candybar-form smartphones made from chocolate soon |
| 23:39.08 | Arrowmaster | i wonder if this is all part of a ploy to get sony to release 4.4 on all their phones asap |
| 23:40.09 | Neffi | I think it's a ploy to sell more candy AND more phones |
| 23:40.33 | Neffi | And ti seems to be working. Google servers appear -- on my end -- to be struggling to keep up with the load on the kitkat.com site |
| 23:40.52 | Arrowmaster | also i wonder if they had trouble making a key lime pie looking android logo |
| 23:41.12 | Arrowmaster | google doesnt host kitkat.com |
| 23:48.54 | Neffi | There are Google-hosted assets on it |
| 23:49.05 | Neffi | According to the Google-based error page that the asset could not be loaded |
| 23:49.18 | Neffi | The same one appeared on YouTube a moment ago |
| 23:55.42 | Mr_Rabies | cross promotion for versioning :| |
