| 00:13.33 | tzarc | IE6* |
| 00:17.46 | sylvanaar | job hunting sucks almost as much as working at a bad one |
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| 00:18.35 | Neffi | That outlook isn't gonna hold up well in about a half hour. About to spend my last $12. |
| 00:50.23 | Neffi | Nexus Mods being DDOSed again? |
| 01:08.59 | Arrowmaster | so i accidentally factory reset my 2013 nexus7 this week and i couldnt get my backup from my 2012 nexus7 to restore in Titanium Backup and i even went as far as doing a complete factory restore from factory images and it still didnt work and had really odd behavior |
| 01:09.17 | Arrowmaster | like when i could get a restore to complete the app would just crash when opened |
| 01:10.14 | Arrowmaster | figured out i needed to change the path it saves/reads backups from /storage/emulated/0/TitaniumBackup to /storage/emulated/legacy/TitaniumBackup |
| 01:10.45 | Arrowmaster | if you know anything about the storage path changes in android for multiuser its a really stupid thing to have to do because they are the exact same patch |
| 01:12.06 | Neffi | All devices I've seen with that new path layout emulated the old behavior properly |
| 01:12.30 | Neffi | I'm surprised a Google device isn't doing even more to make it transparent |
| 01:13.14 | Arrowmaster | there has to be something in the new security features in 4.3 that are making it not like reading backups from one path and the other path working fine |
| 01:13.27 | Neffi | Either way, I prefer Carbon backup (I think they changed the name of it though.. Helium?) Made by the developers of Clockwork Recovery firmware |
| 01:13.40 | Arrowmaster | koush |
| 01:13.46 | Arrowmaster | its one guy |
| 01:13.52 | Neffi | It backs up to a static file that you can move anywhere you want, and you can do cloud backup to various places |
| 01:14.09 | Neffi | It's really nice and well polished. Great app. |
| 01:14.14 | Arrowmaster | titanium is super powerful though |
| 01:14.29 | Neffi | That it is, if you need those features |
| 01:14.51 | Neffi | Stock Android now does app freezing, so I didn't find any reason to use Titanium |
| 01:15.12 | Neffi | But then again custom ROMs are the first thing I put on a device, so I generally have a setup that exactly mirrors what I want |
| 01:15.27 | Arrowmaster | ive already got backups in titanium so im sticking with it for now |
| 01:15.47 | Arrowmaster | and titanium was good for selectively moving stuff when i was switching devices |
| 01:16.03 | Neffi | Well Titanium is popular for a reason |
| 01:16.09 | Neffi | I just particularly liked Carbon |
| 01:16.26 | Arrowmaster | yeah i should try that one at some point, koush makes some great stuff |
| 01:16.45 | Arrowmaster | been using his superuser even though ive got the paid versions of both the others |
| 01:16.47 | Neffi | I like to do away with backups once in a while too |
| 01:16.56 | Neffi | Gut things out, redo them and make a fresh backup |
| 01:18.38 | Neffi | Is this koush? http://www.koushikdutta.com/ |
| 01:18.57 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 01:19.49 | Neffi | Mono on Android gave me a little "wtf" for a moment |
| 01:25.15 | Arrowmaster | theres mono on android? |
| 01:28.47 | Neffi | His blog has a lot of entries for it |
| 01:28.57 | Neffi | Apparently he working on or with it |
| 01:29.07 | Neffi | Now we need Lua on Android |
| 01:29.21 | Arrowmaster | exists |
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| 01:29.38 | Arrowmaster | think its called sl4a |
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| 01:33.37 | Arrowmaster | hmm nope, seems something is still broken and restores arent working properly, i just somehow got one to work |
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| 02:25.54 | kd3 | haha... more true than most cooks would care to admit: "Chicken breast. Ingredients: chicken breast. Directions: Place near heat source until no longer pink, but not yet black." |
| 02:26.16 | Shirik | That's how I make it |
| 02:31.32 | MysticalOS | http://www.wowace.com/addons/ejexport is beyond broken. anyone got a full EJ export? I need a full export of all 5 man dungeons in classic, BC, and wrath |
| 02:32.04 | Neffi | kd3: I must be a really shitty cook then. My chicken just doesn't cook when I place it close to my computer's exhaust. |
| 02:44.45 | jleclanche | <sigh> |
| 02:45.26 | jleclanche | i have a windows 7 iso and no matter what i do, it doesn't seem to be bootable when I dd it onto a flash drive :\ |
| 02:53.12 | jleclanche | aha.. apparently it wants ntfs |
| 02:58.58 | Neffi | EFI boot? |
| 02:59.29 | Neffi | fat32 always works for me with or without NTFS. But the install DVD doesn't have a proper EFI bootloader, so some computers have issues installing esp on GTP partitions |
| 02:59.36 | Neffi | with or without EFI* |
| 02:59.38 | Primer | there's a program you download to do that for you |
| 02:59.49 | Primer | just search for windows 7 usb drive install |
| 03:00.07 | Primer | some .exe you get from MS. It asks where the iso file is and what the target device is |
| 03:00.27 | Primer | I've used it several times and it's always worked. Granted, requires windows to run in the first place |
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| 03:01.48 | Primer | My guess would be that it's like grub2, where the MBR just points to the location of the grub shell on the file system |
| 03:02.19 | Primer | which perhaps isn't something you can achieve with dd |
| 03:03.00 | Neffi | universal usb installer works |
| 03:03.16 | Neffi | but it doesnt add an EFI bootloader. not a problem on a lot of PCs, but a problem on most Lenovos |
| 03:03.28 | Primer | but it does |
| 03:03.35 | Primer | the one I'm talking about does |
| 03:04.46 | Neffi | <3 Halal food |
| 03:05.21 | Primer | Windows7-USB-DVD-tool.exe |
| 03:05.23 | Primer | is what I have here |
| 03:08.52 | Primer | I just don't get this |
| 03:08.53 | Primer | http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/1888939-162forgeoptifine-hd-u-b4-forge-9100xxx-installer-linuxwindowsmac-compatible/ |
| 03:09.04 | Primer | They seriously expect people to follow that shit |
| 03:09.19 | Primer | plus the downloads are on this mega.co.nz, which has some fucked up downloader thing |
| 03:09.23 | Primer | which I want no part of |
| 03:09.33 | Primer | Then they expect you to just run some jar file |
| 03:10.07 | Stanzilla | what's wrong with mega? |
| 03:10.11 | Primer | They expect kids to follow this...I'm a fucking programmer that works with computers every day and have been struggling to get this working |
| 03:10.40 | Primer | Stanzilla: other than the fact that there's no link to a file for me to download, and ff goes "mega.co.nz is asking for permission to store 50MB of shit"... |
| 03:11.09 | Stanzilla | it's using a html5 feature to download stuff |
| 03:11.46 | Primer | yeah well, I've never heard of it, and all these other disreputable minecraft download sites have really turned me off from trusting them |
| 03:12.39 | Stanzilla | google HTML5 FileSystem API :D |
| 03:12.47 | jleclanche | Neffi: windows 7 refuses to install from fat32 |
| 03:12.59 | jleclanche | had no idea, it explains a lot |
| 03:13.24 | Neffi | Never had that issue |
| 03:13.38 | Neffi | I've installed it dozens of times and always used a FAT32 USB partition |
| 03:14.11 | Primer | clicks "allow" |
| 03:15.07 | Stanzilla | jleclanche: like primer said, use Windows7-USB-DVD-tool.exe |
| 03:15.13 | jleclanche | from linux |
| 03:15.15 | Stanzilla | it's from MS |
| 03:15.22 | Stanzilla | YEAH WELL TRY IT |
| 03:15.48 | jleclanche | it probably works in wine tbh but i dont want to risk it |
| 03:15.54 | Primer | Stanzilla: ok, I guess that wasn't that bad. |
| 03:16.23 | Neffi | Never made an install stick from Linux. Maybe there's inconsistencies between mkfs.vfat and Windows' implementation of FAT32 formatting that's breaking it. |
| 03:16.34 | Primer | My guess is that the installer does the equivalent of pointing the MBR to where the boot loader is on the fs |
| 03:16.41 | Stanzilla | Primer: no it's really just html5, it downloads stuff via the api then gives you the file as a whole |
| 03:16.46 | Primer | also guessing that can't be guaranteed when you use dd |
| 03:17.06 | Primer | Effectively doing the "fix boot" option of the rescue |
| 03:18.30 | Primer | heh, so I followed the instructions on that page, fired up minecraft, it starts...then silently goes away |
| 03:18.34 | Primer | Yet the process is still running |
| 03:21.27 | Primer | gee, I wonder if minecraft.net got owned |
| 03:28.38 | Primer | yeah, just fails...the java UI just goes away and javaw.exe continues to run |
| 03:29.28 | Neffi | Anyone successfully running a modded Skyrim (1.9) in Wine? |
| 03:29.45 | Neffi | Also things like Nexus Mod Manager and BOSS for proper mod setups..? |
| 03:29.54 | Primer | I gave up on wine a while back when WoW stopped running optimally on my old ass machine at work |
| 03:30.14 | Neffi | I really want to ditch Windows, but I'm too much of a gamer |
| 03:30.19 | Primer | but I have a branch new MB/CPU/MEM waiting for me and I can't wait to play wow at work again! |
| 03:30.19 | kd3 | make a new wineprefix, move your wow install over to the new one, profit? |
| 03:30.41 | Primer | Neffi: If I could get a native wow on Linux, I'd ditch windows |
| 03:30.48 | Primer | That's all I really play |
| 03:30.52 | Neffi | And with upcoming games like ESO not being ported to Linux, I'm getting even more irritated at the direction MS is taking Windows |
| 03:31.17 | Neffi | Play WoW at work? What the hell do you do? |
| 03:31.23 | kd3 | unless you're using an ancient version of wine, it's been handling wow well for years now |
| 03:31.55 | Neffi | WoW at least has an OpenGL backend (that runs faster than its D3D backend from what I hear) |
| 03:32.00 | Neffi | I wish more devs used OpenGL |
| 03:32.43 | Primer | kd3: the problem is my machine is too old |
| 03:33.06 | Neffi | If the PS3/4 had a framework for handling third-party mods in games, I'd probably ditch PC gaming and buy one |
| 03:33.10 | Primer | 6 year old c2d with a 1920x1080 native res main monitor |
| 03:33.21 | Primer | I recently put a 4th monitor on that machine too :) |
| 03:33.32 | Primer | http://www.ceregatti.org/desk.jpg |
| 03:33.46 | Neffi | I've heard that WoW actually runs better CPU-wise under Wine than Windows |
| 03:33.58 | Neffi | But that probably depends on your distro's kernel and config |
| 03:34.15 | kd3 | eh, before this setup, I was running wow on a c2q 6600 on an 8600GT at reasonable settings |
| 03:34.15 | Primer | I'm using Mint 15 right now |
| 03:34.18 | Neffi | If you used a BFS patched kernel and tweaked parameters manually you might get good performance |
| 03:34.32 | Primer | It really seems that I'm CPU bound, as I have an nvidia 650 |
| 03:34.40 | Neffi | Definitely |
| 03:34.45 | Primer | I can't do Sha, for example |
| 03:34.46 | Neffi | WoW is much harder on the CPU than GPU IME |
| 03:34.53 | Primer | But I have a ton of addons |
| 03:35.08 | Primer | Some which may not be too optimal, like PitBull4_Arrow! :) |
| 03:35.15 | Neffi | I've never found most addons to be a contributing factor to performance, but that really varies |
| 03:35.16 | Primer | set to update on every frame |
| 03:35.27 | Primer | I should profile PB4_Arrow |
| 03:35.36 | Primer | I bet it consumes a LOT of CPU in a 40 man |
| 03:35.38 | Neffi | My own UI setup was faster than the stock UI, by a non-negligible amount |
| 03:35.54 | Neffi | I think PitBull altogether does. PB4 might be a different story. |
| 03:36.05 | Neffi | Maybe make a oUF layout |
| 03:36.06 | Primer | There is no other PB |
| 03:36.19 | Neffi | There used to be, and it used to be harsh on performance |
| 03:36.24 | Primer | right, PB3 |
| 03:36.29 | Neffi | And 2 and 1 |
| 03:36.32 | Primer | but that hasn't been updated in ages |
| 03:36.52 | Neffi | Those are the ones I used, is what I meant. So I can't speak to how it performs nowadays |
| 03:37.03 | Neffi | But it's never been known for good performance |
| 03:48.38 | Primer | wow...you can't name something starting with a . in windows exploder |
| 03:48.48 | Primer | .minecraft - Copy |
| 03:48.59 | Primer | and remove the " - Copy"... |
| 03:49.53 | Primer | can do it just fine from mintty... |
| 03:49.55 | Primer | go windows |
| 03:49.58 | Stanzilla | try deleting a file with a ":" in the name |
| 03:49.59 | Stanzilla | mighty fun |
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| 04:03.44 | Neffi | Or " " which is a valid file name in Windows |
| 04:04.13 | Neffi | You can do these things from cmd.exe though |
| 04:06.00 | Stanzilla | not with : |
| 04:20.52 | Neffi | Isn't `:` invalid in NTFS? |
| 04:21.01 | Neffi | At the very least it's invalid in Windows |
| 04:23.04 | Stanzilla | probably is |
| 04:23.13 | Stanzilla | I had some leftovers from a ubuntu test run |
| 04:23.19 | Stanzilla | and I still can't delete it from windows |
| 04:29.08 | Shirik | https://medium.com/comedy-corner/fd08c0babb57 (language warning) |
| 04:29.30 | Shirik | speaking of stupid Windows |
| 04:29.39 | Shirik | Explorer refuses to name something ".extension" |
| 04:29.45 | Shirik | even though it's TOTALLY valid in NTFS |
| 04:29.49 | Shirik | and you can do it from the command line |
| 04:29.55 | Shirik | in Explorer it goes "you must enter a file name" |
| 04:30.02 | Shirik | and I"m sitting here like "the fucking filename is .p4ignore" |
| 04:30.07 | Shirik | and it's like "nope that's not a filename" |
| 04:31.42 | Neffi | Would the average businessman with no discernible tech skills consider it valid? If not, then Windows probably doesn't either |
| 04:32.13 | Neffi | It's an OS for the mainstream. It's become totally moot to complain about it shortfalls. |
| 04:33.13 | Neffi | VMware can't clone a suspended VM? That's stupid |
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| 04:45.07 | sylvanaar_ | It is there primarily because you can turn off file extensions |
| 04:49.01 | sylvanaar_ | so the text would disappear, and you could not incrementally add .bar multiple times to get foo.bar.bar.bar.bar |
| 04:49.43 | sylvanaar_ | so the usage was "discouraged" |
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| 04:52.47 | sylvanaar_ | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Disk_Image |
| 04:53.09 | Neffi | How long do you guys figure it will be before Wayland is ubiquitous to the extent that major distros are primarily X-free? |
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| 05:14.34 | sylvanaar_ | Shirik: Primer: it is just '.foo' you can name things '..foo' whatever that is worth |
| 05:16.44 | sylvanaar_ | files have the last period removed - there has to be something before it otherwise the name is null |
| 05:18.55 | sylvanaar_ | in DOS you could write to devices or files using the same commands. Can you save to COM1 in explorer |
| 05:20.40 | sylvanaar_ | nope |
| 05:25.57 | sylvanaar_ | i wonder if you could make a settings directory that went 1 level deeper, then junctioned to it so that ..foo would put you in the same place .foo would have |
| 05:57.30 | sylvanaar | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:01.14 | bleeter | SHEEEEEE... EEEEE... EEET https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wWuH7MIeCA |
| 06:06.02 | Cairenn | Yeah, that driver was luuuuucky! |
| 06:06.44 | bleeter | i'd be going striahgt out and getting a lotto ticket |
| 06:06.52 | Cairenn | yup |
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| 06:08.39 | Clamsoda | I like how the guy filming backed out up a little... |
| 06:08.43 | Clamsoda | Never can be too safe =X |
| 06:09.05 | bleeter | haha yeah |
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| 08:53.10 | Clamsoda | If a button is disabled, does it still receive OnUpdate events? |
| 08:54.41 | zenzelezz | if it's visible, I believe so |
| 08:54.51 | zenzelezz | I think every frame that isn't hidden gets OnUpdate |
| 08:55.24 | Clamsoda | Makes sense; just checking. |
| 08:55.34 | Clamsoda | Thanks buddy =] |
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| 09:28.06 | sylvanaar | yeah, it has to draw itself greyed out every frame |
| 09:31.08 | sylvanaar | also if it is not hidden and not visible it still gets onupdate |
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| 09:40.51 | Clamsoda | Thanks for the input Sylvanaar! |
| 09:53.09 | karl_w_w | I just noticed the window with the friend list on it uses the wrong show and hide sounds |
| 10:01.03 | sylvanaar | Clamsoda: you reminded me I need to release my Lua editor to work with the latest IDEA platform |
| 10:04.33 | Clamsoda | =O, how did I remind you lol? |
| 10:10.39 | sylvanaar | because I loaded one of my addons to check what I was saying about the button |
| 10:10.44 | sylvanaar | and it didnt load |
| 10:11.35 | sylvanaar | because my editor plugin wasnt marked as supporting the current IDEA platform I was running |
| 10:11.36 | bluworkcow | Lol |
| 10:12.11 | sylvanaar | not to mention the changes were sitting in the push q |
| 10:12.56 | Clamsoda | Ahh I see. You're welcom! |
| 10:12.59 | Clamsoda | Welcome, even. |
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| 10:13.09 | Clamsoda | Also, yeah, I was messing with an AddOn and can confirm what you said. |
| 10:13.27 | Clamsoda | I was just too lazy to dry code something to test lol |
| 10:14.21 | sylvanaar | I think I am going to change sylvanaar.com to a vps, and move my build server out of my house |
| 10:15.02 | Clamsoda | What's the reason? |
| 10:15.05 | sylvanaar | It had crashed |
| 10:15.09 | Clamsoda | Oh no =X |
| 10:15.25 | sylvanaar | It also draws a lot of power |
| 10:15.47 | sylvanaar | course it does other things |
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| 10:25.54 | Clamsoda | Hey Sylvanaar, I want to ask you something. Is there any way, other than referencing a table key, to convert a string into a variable/function reference>? |
| 10:26.24 | Clamsoda | An example being: say I have a function called PLAYER_LOGIN, I want to point to that function directly though my SetScript's event argument. |
| 10:26.58 | Clamsoda | Rather than pointing to a method of a table in the conventional way (i.e, self[event](self, event, ....) ) |
| 10:27.53 | sylvanaar | globals |
| 10:28.09 | Clamsoda | Oh, reference it in the global table? |
| 10:28.12 | Clamsoda | _G[event]? |
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| 10:28.56 | sylvanaar | function PLAYER_LOGIN() end |
| 10:29.01 | sylvanaar | but, change the name |
| 10:29.49 | Clamsoda | Hmm. Any way outside of globals? For a local function? |
| 10:29.51 | sylvanaar | or enclose the global scope - it isn't the best style for something with as much code as WoW |
| 10:30.05 | Clamsoda | Right; I want to try to avoid that. |
| 10:30.26 | sylvanaar | no that is ok, if you enclose it |
| 10:30.50 | sylvanaar | because it is only global to your code |
| 10:31.49 | sylvanaar | don't put it in _G if you can avoid it |
| 10:32.03 | sylvanaar | but |
| 10:32.07 | sylvanaar | why? |
| 10:32.14 | Clamsoda | OH, you mean reference it on the global table? Like local AddonName, AddonTable = ...; AddonTable:PLAYER_LOGIN() |
| 10:32.17 | Clamsoda | That kind of deal? |
| 10:32.35 | sylvanaar | you can do that |
| 10:32.44 | sylvanaar | what are you trying to do? |
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| 10:33.07 | Clamsoda | Well. It is more of a general inquiry. Specifically I am writing a mail AddOn; but that is largely beside the point. |
| 10:33.09 | Clamsoda | Let me illustrate. |
| 10:33.27 | Clamsoda | Let's say I have some function....local function PLAYER_LOGIN() print("Sylv") end |
| 10:34.04 | Clamsoda | I'd like to point to it in such a fashion: eventHandler:SetScript("OnEvent", function(self, event) event() end) |
| 10:34.35 | Clamsoda | See what I mean? If that event argument could be used as a function reference(it can't, it is a string), it would greatly simplify code. |
| 10:35.12 | Clamsoda | I guess the the question should be phrased: is there a Lua alternative to Python's eval()? |
| 10:35.23 | Clamsoda | That lets you use a string as a variable/function reference. |
| 10:35.40 | sylvanaar | http://pastebin.com/j4ndaRFx |
| 10:36.51 | sylvanaar | yes I understand - you will be going through a table no matter what |
| 10:36.58 | Clamsoda | Ahhh, got it. |
| 10:37.19 | Clamsoda | I am already using the eventHandler:SetScript("OnEvent", function(self, event, ...) return self[event](self, event, ...) end) implementation |
| 10:37.30 | Clamsoda | Was just curious if it was possible to avoid table lookups |
| 10:37.40 | sylvanaar | self["myfunc"](self, ...) |
| 10:38.08 | sylvanaar | no, because everything is inside a table |
| 10:38.08 | Clamsoda | Yeah, that's what I am using at the moment. I don't like incurring a table lookup, but if it is the only option then oh well. |
| 10:38.36 | sylvanaar | you can store the result of an eval in a local |
| 10:39.23 | sylvanaar | that seems silly though |
| 10:39.50 | sylvanaar | though I am sure somewhere in my code I do it |
| 10:40.01 | Clamsoda | Got it. |
| 10:40.03 | sylvanaar | maybe if I call the result multiple times |
| 10:40.14 | sylvanaar | in a row |
| 10:41.03 | sylvanaar | local foo = self["foo"] |
| 10:41.41 | sylvanaar | foo(self.foo, ...) |
| 10:41.46 | sylvanaar | still looks funny |
| 10:42.10 | Clamsoda | You're right. |
| 10:42.18 | Clamsoda | I think the answer to my question is no lol. |
| 10:42.36 | Clamsoda | I'm not looking to complicate anything to achieve what I want, was just curious if there was a simple way to do it. |
| 10:42.46 | Clamsoda | Incurring one table lookup isn't the end of the world; was just curious. |
| 10:44.12 | sylvanaar | yeah it really isnt |
| 10:44.29 | sylvanaar | considering what the default UI is doing every frame |
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| 11:31.51 | Fisker | poor tharpers |
| 11:31.55 | Fisker | trying to get home |
| 11:33.30 | Clamsoda | =[ |
| 11:33.37 | Clamsoda | Let's throw him a rope! |
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| 14:32.25 | karl_w_w | http://thepioneerwoman.com/cooking/2013/07/strawberry-ice-cream/ I did think this was the most fucking useless recipe layout I have ever seen |
| 14:32.43 | karl_w_w | but then I saw this one which doesn't even have the fucking recipe on it http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/08/strawberry-ice-cream-recipe_n_3541713.html |
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| 15:41.53 | Shirik | http://gyazo.com/e8a66beac217b4069a021e656442ce6d |
| 15:41.55 | Shirik | wtf is "other" |
| 15:43.10 | zenzelezz | "it's sometimes okay" |
| 15:57.17 | Shirik | wow, I thought I was the only person that did this: http://gyazo.com/e4faef4bad9a807f32a0c7f0cf85569e |
| 16:02.41 | karl_w_w | weird americans |
| 16:02.46 | karl_w_w | can't pronounce anything |
| 16:06.30 | Shirik | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwBaSoAs41E |
| 16:06.39 | zenzelezz | I don't think that's something people from the southern hemisphere should be saying, karl_w_w |
| 16:06.45 | Shirik | rofl |
| 16:07.08 | Shirik | wait what do you mean southern hemisphere |
| 16:07.35 | zenzelezz | you know, the hemisphere south of the north one |
| 16:09.50 | Fisker | "hey" Shirik |
| 16:10.00 | Shirik | hey™ Fisker |
| 16:10.12 | Fisker | no |
| 16:15.19 | karl_w_w | I'm not from the southern hemisphere, zenzelezz |
| 16:16.45 | karl_w_w | Shirik, americans are the only people who care about east and western hemisphere |
| 16:18.38 | Shirik | the only reason I care is because of latitude :( |
| 16:18.49 | Shirik | and how I always have to remember we're on the negative side |
| 16:19.09 | zenzelezz | I have more of an issue remembering which is latitude and which is longitude |
| 16:19.13 | Shirik | so do I |
| 16:19.18 | Shirik | as indicated by the fact that I just said latitude instead of longitude |
| 16:19.52 | karl_w_w | well latitude is the easy one to find out |
| 16:19.57 | karl_w_w | historically |
| 16:20.29 | karl_w_w | so that makes it the east west one |
| 16:20.32 | karl_w_w | right? |
| 16:20.33 | karl_w_w | lol |
| 16:21.02 | Shirik | no longitude is the east-west one |
| 16:21.19 | karl_w_w | right yes! |
| 16:21.33 | karl_w_w | thats why they needed to be able to tell the time to work out longitude |
| 16:22.16 | Shirik | huh |
| 16:22.19 | Shirik | never thought of it like that |
| 16:22.25 | Shirik | that's a neat way to remember |
| 16:24.32 | karl_w_w | it seems like it would be easier to remember which is which, rather than remembering all of the above |
| 16:24.49 | karl_w_w | but I've never been able to remember which is which, so time for a new method! :P |
| 16:25.08 | Shirik | I just use MGRS |
| 16:25.10 | Shirik | :P |
| 16:25.18 | Shirik | it's impossible to screw that up |
| 16:31.12 | Shirik | http://www.cbheller.com/drinking_a_cabinet__how_to_talk_like_a_new_englander_47756.htm |
| 16:31.15 | Shirik | I am learning a lot about the US |
| 16:31.24 | Shirik | "would you like to drink a cabinet?" |
| 16:31.25 | Shirik | wtf |
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| 16:57.24 | karl_w_w | they get called frappes here as well, but only in some coffee shops |
| 16:58.39 | Shirik | well this is awkward |
| 16:58.50 | Shirik | http://gyazo.com/7a25c756ca8cb88498638c072886ba60 |
| 16:59.01 | Shirik | I couldn't tell the difference between this answer and the next one, so I went to Wikipedia to check the IPA guide |
| 16:59.08 | Shirik | and found a note |
| 16:59.25 | Shirik | " /ɔː/ is not distinguished from /ɒ/ (except before /r/) in dialects with the cot–caught merger such as some varieties of GenAm." |
| 17:00.55 | kd3 | gah at losing a drive, yay at it being a raid element, at least |
| 17:01.04 | Fisker | we're all going to die Shirik :( |
| 17:01.04 | kd3 | hopefully it gets here early on tuesday >.< |
| 17:01.11 | Shirik | raid 1? |
| 17:01.19 | kd3 | raid5 |
| 17:01.23 | Shirik | then you're fine :P |
| 17:01.48 | Shirik | now the real question |
| 17:01.53 | Fisker | i usually use raid 0 for that |
| 17:01.57 | Shirik | are you paranoid enough to not turn the computer on until it arrives? |
| 17:02.35 | kd3 | nah, the other drives are all coming back clean, says smart. the dead drive has been failing for some time |
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| 17:20.56 | End | toot too |
| 17:21.00 | End | ..t |
| 17:26.30 | Arrowmaster | kd3: hope you dont get a failure on rebuild |
| 17:26.39 | kd3 | been there, done that |
| 17:26.50 | Arrowmaster | i use raid6 |
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| 17:57.37 | Shirik | random question |
| 17:57.43 | Shirik | do RAID arrays periodically check themselves? |
| 17:57.54 | Shirik | like a RAID 5 array could check to ensure it's consistent while the three drives are good |
| 17:58.04 | Shirik | but it wouldn't know without checking |
| 17:58.08 | bluspacecow | shhhhhhhhhhhhhiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiriiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiikk |
| 17:58.11 | Shirik | hi |
| 17:58.30 | bluspacecow | i brake ma hearthstone |
| 17:58.40 | kd3 | yes, mdadm on linux, for instance, generally checks around 2 in the morning |
| 17:58.58 | kd3 | s/mdadm/the kernel raid driver/ |
| 17:59.04 | Shirik | I haven't played hearthstone |
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| 18:20.38 | Clamsoda | Hi =3 |
| 18:26.30 | zenzelezz | hello >2 |
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| 18:37.23 | Thunder_Child | Welcome ~1 |
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| 20:54.33 | airtonix | lol raid... how quaint |
| 20:58.31 | karl_w_w | raids airtonix |
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| 21:13.27 | bleeter | karl_w_w: https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/p480x480/1174630_10151539912881403_337131069_n.jpg |
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| 22:16.00 | kd3 | hah. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1000000 |
| 22:16.53 | rid_ | lol |
| 22:20.27 | xyphoid | i sniped commit 10000 to our svn repo on a day when i was sick, the people who were actually working were Sad. |
| 22:34.23 | Arrowmaster | only 1million? isnt ubuntu already at 1billion? |
| 22:35.40 | Neffi | Fact checking is dead |
| 22:36.19 | Neffi | Everyone and their mother is reiterating that the internet (in terms of its electrons in motion) weigh about 50 grams. |
| 22:36.36 | Neffi | 540 billion trillion electrons don't weigh anywhere near 50 grams |
| 22:44.44 | Neffi | Assuming the 540 billion trillion figure is right -- and it's probably wildly wrong -- I get a figure around .00000000049 grams |
| 22:44.54 | Arrowmaster | trollololololo http://nextmicrosoftceo.com/ |
| 22:45.34 | Neffi | lol |
| 22:45.39 | Neffi | We all have to upvote Linus |
| 22:46.12 | Arrowmaster | linus only had 800 votes about 10 minutes ago |
| 22:46.21 | Arrowmaster | vote for stallman |
| 22:46.37 | Arrowmaster | we have to get them 1&2 |
| 22:47.42 | Neffi | Recruiting 4chan |
| 22:47.48 | Arrowmaster | already done |
| 22:48.38 | Alram | voting for gaben |
| 22:48.50 | Neffi | Did you ask /g/, Arrow? |
| 22:48.59 | Arrowmaster | its on reddit |
| 22:49.15 | Arrowmaster | and they were talking about recuriting 4chan an hour ago |
| 22:49.27 | Neffi | http://boards.4chan.org/g/res/36450214 <- gonna be a trollfest |
| 22:49.52 | Neffi | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:51.46 | Neffi | Apparently /g/ was already recruited |
| 22:52.22 | Neffi | I'm gonna love if this makes it to news and pundits start talking about the merits of Stallman and Linus as CEO |
| 23:06.29 | Arrowmaster | linus is 1 and rms is 2 |
| 23:06.36 | Arrowmaster | now who should be 3? |
| 23:08.34 | Neffi | Hmm. The figure of 50 grams as the weight of moving electrons in the internet was so wrong.. |
| 23:08.50 | Neffi | That it would be equivalent to the news reporting that 200,000,000,000 people died when only 2 died |
| 23:09.51 | Arrowmaster | its been done |
| 23:09.56 | Thunder_Child | I think you need to add a frew more zeros |
| 23:10.00 | Thunder_Child | few* |
| 23:10.04 | Neffi | And the original source -- as far as I can tell -- for the 50 gram figure made such an elementary mistake in both algebra and reading scientific notation that he probably failed high school math. So I have even less of a reason to trust his figure of 540 billion trillion electrons |
| 23:10.12 | Neffi | Thunder_Child: Not according to my math |
| 23:10.52 | Neffi | Well I've got to go |
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