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| 00:25.25 | bleeter | kd3: I note that the horse head mask has an effect on pants |
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| 01:22.47 | Arrowmaster | bleeter: i dont think ive worn my horse mask since halloween, i should fix that |
| 01:24.17 | jleclanche | http://www.timesofmalta.com/articles/view/20130812/odd-news/male-skinny-dippers-warned-of-ball-cutter-fish.481788 |
| 01:27.47 | pompy1 | ^ Fisker |
| 01:28.05 | jleclanche | he doesnt need to know |
| 01:28.18 | jleclanche | 20 bucks he's the one who released them into the wild. |
| 01:28.41 | pompy1 | yeah bc "A fish expert, Henrick Carl, at the Natural History Museum of Denmark told Swedish news site The Local that the pacu bite ”because they’re hungry, and testicles sit nicely in their mouth.”" |
| 01:28.44 | pompy1 | that has to be him |
| 01:30.18 | xyphoid | that does not count as sitting nicely in their mouth. that is sitting not nicely in their mouth thanks |
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| 01:39.20 | Semlar | is 5.4 being released the 27th |
| 01:39.28 | kd3|hate`net | barring showstoppers |
| 01:40.41 | Dagmar | Someone should smack him for even suggesting that |
| 02:18.35 | Grivvel | So has anyone taken a look at how the new store stuff affects addons on the PTR? |
| 02:18.59 | kd3|hate`net | the store's in it's own little compartment, completely untouched by the rest of the environment we can mess with |
| 02:19.03 | nebula169 | how would it affect addons? |
| 02:19.36 | Grivvel | nebula169: I was concerned that taint might affect it somehow |
| 02:19.49 | Grivvel | kd3|hate`net: Cool, so taint shouldn't be an issue? |
| 02:20.20 | kd3 | nope. the store will take copies of whatever it needs from the global environment before addons load |
| 02:20.35 | Grivvel | Ah, neat |
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| 02:54.17 | Shadowed | Shirik ping |
| 02:54.21 | Shirik | no |
| 02:54.27 | Shadowed | Shirik are you playing solforge |
| 02:54.31 | Shirik | what |
| 02:54.33 | Shirik | are you seriously |
| 02:54.35 | Shirik | my opponent |
| 02:54.37 | Shadowed | yes |
| 02:54.38 | Shadowed | yes I am |
| 02:54.39 | Shadowed | hi |
| 02:54.40 | Shirik | hi |
| 02:54.44 | Shadowed | lol |
| 02:54.46 | Shirik | well that was random |
| 02:54.49 | kd3 | wow |
| 02:55.03 | kd3 | also, here's a patch note from ancient wow: NPCs no longer tap creatures they are fighting. |
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| 02:55.09 | kd3 | who the hell thought that was ever a good idea? |
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| 02:56.10 | Shirik | Shadowed: I wasn't cool enough to join the kickstarter though :( |
| 02:56.16 | Shadowed | ahhh |
| 02:56.20 | Shadowed | yea I ended up starting with like |
| 02:56.26 | Shadowed | 125 boosters and a full set of the old precons |
| 02:56.28 | Shadowed | which helps |
| 02:56.33 | Shadowed | although this deck is kind of a screwy one |
| 02:57.10 | Shirik | 125?! |
| 02:57.30 | Shadowed | had around $80 in store credit, they did a 50% off boosters deal |
| 02:57.33 | Shirik | I still got first blood |
| 02:57.34 | Shirik | so nyah |
| 02:57.34 | Shadowed | so I got $160 boosters for $80 |
| 03:00.38 | Arrowmaster | i only see one person in the wowuidev steam group playing solforge |
| 03:03.46 | Shirik | I was not aware there is a steam group |
| 03:04.18 | Shirik | apparently I was |
| 03:04.19 | Shirik | because I'm in it |
| 03:04.52 | Shadowed | oops |
| 03:05.12 | Shirik | what was that? |
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| 03:09.47 | Shirik | I didn't know you played Shadowed |
| 03:09.50 | Shadowed | yea |
| 03:09.57 | Shirik | (for that matter I didn't know anyone here knew about solforge :P ) |
| 03:09.59 | Shadowed | also gg |
| 03:10.02 | Shirik | you too |
| 03:10.04 | Shadowed | can't do much with draws and 3 grimgaunts :P |
| 03:10.06 | Shirik | lol |
| 03:10.07 | Shadowed | I'm literally working on a DB for solforge right now |
| 03:10.12 | Shadowed | I've got the raw card data |
| 03:10.41 | Shirik | yeah I had some really good draws there |
| 03:11.13 | Shirik | so random that it paired us together though |
| 03:14.05 | Shadowed | haha yea |
| 03:14.12 | Shadowed | I looked at the name and had a "wtf" moment |
| 03:20.36 | Shirik | the thought had crossed my mind but I reacted in more of a "it's probably a common name" |
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| 03:54.01 | Torhal | "clarify further the brokenness of C++. why the fuck are we using C++?" |
| 03:54.09 | Torhal | figured Shirik would appreciate that one. |
| 03:54.15 | Torhal | http://whatthecommit.com/ |
| 03:54.24 | MysticalOS | objective C, so you can update mac curse client |
| 03:54.25 | MysticalOS | :P |
| 03:54.55 | Torhal | MysticalOS: Fuck that. Have you SEEN Objective-C? |
| 03:55.46 | MysticalOS | make a cocoa UI wrapper and use some cross platform code for the actual app. that's what blizz does with BDA |
| 03:56.07 | Torhal | They don't want to invest in it. |
| 03:56.33 | Torhal | Too much time/money has already been wrapped up in it and nothing came of it. |
| 03:57.05 | MysticalOS | probably because they didn't actually try to make the code cross platform enough, so the client needed more than just a pretty OS X skin. maintaining two projects essencially |
| 03:58.34 | Torhal | Not probably. Mac Client is completely Objective C. Problem with that is the guy who wrote it has bigger fish to fry these days, nobody else knows the language, and finding a dev is hard as hell. |
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| 04:04.13 | nebula169 | whats the curse client written in? |
| 04:23.08 | Torhal | C# |
| 04:23.14 | Torhal | nebula169: ^ |
| 04:23.43 | nebula169 | thought so, can't you just use mono? |
| 04:24.09 | Torhal | Mono doesn't fully support WPF and a couple of other things. |
| 04:24.19 | nebula169 | oooh right. wpf. |
| 04:24.33 | nebula169 | ABOMINATION! |
| 04:27.04 | airtonix | Torhal: all hail Qt5 |
| 04:27.08 | airtonix | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:27.28 | Torhal | rewrites airtonix in TCL/TK. |
| 04:28.12 | airtonix | scumbag MysticalOS: tells people to make something cross platform... suggests using cocoa UI. |
| 04:28.29 | airtonix | ;p |
| 04:29.54 | MysticalOS | just the GUI. it has to look mac like, mac users are fussy. they get annoyed about skinned apps with close boxes on wrong side and shit |
| 04:30.36 | airtonix | mac users are the minority. screw them. |
| 04:30.53 | nebula169 | pretty sure that's the current stance :p |
| 04:30.55 | airtonix | android users have had to put up with iOS skinned apps for ages |
| 04:32.04 | Dagmar | Oh you have no idea how bad it can get |
| 04:32.27 | Dagmar | Asians have this demented idea they should come up with customized widget themeing *every time* |
| 04:32.36 | airtonix | seriously fuck that |
| 04:32.43 | Dagmar | There's a Nagios app that is a _visual obscenity_ |
| 04:32.57 | Dagmar | ...and it's not like the Nagios web interface is all that pretty, but... Gwd |
| 04:33.03 | Dagmar | er gawd |
| 04:34.24 | Dagmar | Just *looK* at this shit... https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ro.rekaszeru.unag&hl=en |
| 04:34.34 | airtonix | lawl |
| 04:34.48 | Dagmar | I would love it if people *just* rather pointlessly tried to make their apps look like iOS |
| 04:34.52 | airtonix | it's a screenshot on a htc... not surprised |
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| 04:35.07 | Dagmar | No, that's *not* HTC skinning |
| 04:35.16 | airtonix | no but it's influenced by it |
| 04:35.24 | Dagmar | It looks like that on *any* Android device |
| 04:35.34 | airtonix | i realise that. |
| 04:35.41 | Dagmar | Why on earth would anyone use a phone that ugly |
| 04:36.23 | airtonix | yeah seriously, just stick to the jellybean guidelines and the app gets mader a lot faster |
| 04:36.30 | Dagmar | That's the sort of crap people through was nifty back in Afterstep days when pixmap widgets were still a novelty |
| 04:37.03 | Iriel | Dagmar: you're taking me back 8-) |
| 04:37.11 | airtonix | hawt |
| 04:37.31 | Dagmar | I started to just write my own app for it, just because that one is so goddamn ugly |
| 04:38.19 | Dagmar | Even the way it presents the data is a mess |
| 04:38.32 | airtonix | Torhal: tied that whatthecommit up to festival text-to-speech screensaver |
| 04:39.55 | Torhal | airtonix: Hah |
| 04:44.08 | sylvanaar | Torhal: objective c isnt bad after you get used to it |
| 04:44.40 | sylvanaar | it is better now that jetbrains makes an ide for it oto |
| 04:44.42 | sylvanaar | too |
| 04:44.59 | MysticalOS | sylvanaar, sounds like you are volunteering to update curse client? |
| 04:45.19 | sylvanaar | i have to pay the rent |
| 04:45.22 | airtonix | MysticalOS: sounds like you're offering to fund this |
| 04:45.37 | Torhal | airtonix: Sounds like a bunch of supposition. |
| 04:45.48 | airtonix | :p |
| 04:45.55 | MysticalOS | fund? Obj C is easy, sylvanaar can do it for curse points he'll get when users download it. |
| 04:46.15 | Torhal | Ell-oh-ell. |
| 04:46.16 | airtonix | yeah but objc doesn't run on linux |
| 04:46.29 | airtonix | that's really important |
| 04:46.41 | sylvanaar | heh |
| 04:46.54 | Torhal | executes airtonix on a PDP-11. |
| 04:46.57 | MysticalOS | lies, http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/08/os-x-apps-run-on-linux-with-wine-like-emulator-for-mac-software/ |
| 04:47.04 | airtonix | sigh |
| 04:47.14 | airtonix | how about you make it with python instead |
| 04:47.37 | airtonix | or even better use something that isn't a second class citizen on any platform |
| 04:47.50 | MysticalOS | JAVA |
| 04:47.53 | MysticalOS | hides |
| 04:47.54 | airtonix | ... |
| 04:48.00 | sylvanaar | they had that QT based client before this one. I have to say the windows client is so awesome compared to it |
| 04:49.17 | sylvanaar | x-platform almost always looks awkward |
| 04:51.48 | Dagmar | Well, there's an objc compiler for Linux, but fuck that |
| 04:52.17 | sylvanaar | obj-c is just a language |
| 04:52.51 | sylvanaar | you can compile it from many OSes |
| 04:53.33 | sylvanaar | what you link it to - that is another story |
| 05:06.31 | nebula169 | oh snap tidy plates beta with worldframe reparenting |
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| 05:23.40 | jleclanche | my friend's computer has 196mb of ram |
| 05:23.51 | jleclanche | i find that to be an achievement |
| 05:25.00 | airtonix | back when i was a kid we only had 64k |
| 05:25.32 | airtonix | it was enough! |
| 05:25.40 | airtonix | we did stuff |
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| 05:49.19 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:52.15 | mikma | Y U DO TAT |
| 05:52.20 | Semlar | why not |
| 05:52.28 | mikma | what is that anywho |
| 05:52.41 | Semlar | nameplates |
| 05:52.47 | mikma | on wow? |
| 05:53.00 | Semlar | yeah |
| 05:53.45 | mikma | doesn't look like wow :P |
| 05:53.56 | Semlar | that's okay |
| 05:54.07 | Semlar | it can still be wow |
| 05:57.02 | Semlar | i liked the idea of showing health as numbers that fill up but it makes them kind of hard to see sometimes |
| 05:57.18 | Semlar | i might just make them solid |
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| 06:02.49 | Semlar | i was just playing with the nameplates anyway, i don't know if i'll keep them |
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| 06:06.05 | Neffi | http://arstechnica.com/science/2013/08/nasa-gives-up-on-resurrecting-kepler-telescope/ |
| 06:06.05 | Neffi | sad |
| 06:06.36 | Neffi | It was only slated for 3.5, but NASA has a history of doing interesting and fun things with machines that are past their lifetime. Kepler never had a chance. |
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| 06:26.01 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:38.37 | Shirik | https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=JUeI8cekvA4 |
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| 07:27.59 | zenzio | Google Play is trolling me. "Yo, an update is available for App X!" *click Update* "Trollolol, app already installed!" |
| 07:28.34 | bluspacecow | I now imagine the Google Play App Store singing the trololololololol sing |
| 07:28.37 | bluspacecow | *song |
| 07:30.02 | Dagmar | That's the phone's way of saying "TOO SLOW, MEATSACK." |
| 07:33.30 | Dagmar | RangerZ: If Rube Goldberg saw the map they use for that system, he would be shocked |
| 07:33.37 | Dagmar | @#$@# wrong chan |
| 07:34.18 | zenzio | o_O |
| 07:36.45 | p3lim | Just... In what setting.. ? |
| 07:40.38 | bluspacecow | LC_ALL=C tr -c "[:digit:]" " " < /dev/urandom | dd cbs=$COLUMNS conv=unblock | GREP_COLOR="1;32" grep --color "[^ ]" |
| 07:41.25 | zenzio | O_o |
| 07:41.50 | bluspacecow | doesn't look very good in my terminal but give it a go on yours |
| 07:42.04 | bleeter | wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee |
| 07:45.50 | zenzio | so my brother made a post on Facebook about a person forgetting to push the "stop" button on the subway, pulling the emergency break, and then pulling out a knife and muttering to himself |
| 07:46.01 | zenzio | so I comment "that's what happens to people who code in Ruby" |
| 07:46.13 | zenzio | then every coder friend on Facebook "like"s the comment. Typical |
| 07:46.16 | bluspacecow | lol |
| 07:46.29 | zenzio | no non-coder understood it though :( |
| 07:46.43 | nevcairiel | your subways have stop buttons? |
| 07:48.04 | bluspacecow | i think its a "this is my stop please subway driver stop" button |
| 07:48.06 | zenzio | only used when they're in the lesser trafficed areas, so they don't have to stop at every platform if no-one needs it |
| 07:48.11 | bluspacecow | maybe they don't stop at all stops ? |
| 07:48.17 | zenzio | bluspacecow: correct |
| 07:48.29 | zenzio | same as on buses |
| 07:48.35 | bluspacecow | i imagine they'll be regulatuions of the min time they can stop at each stop for a subway |
| 07:48.43 | nevcairiel | we have it on buses of course, because a bus can like stop instantly |
| 07:48.49 | bluspacecow | having stop buttons is more efficient as they're not stopping at stops they don't need to |
| 07:48.54 | nevcairiel | but trains usually cant really "just stop" on a whim |
| 07:49.12 | zenzio | neither our buses or subways stop outside of platforms/bus stops |
| 07:49.20 | bluspacecow | maybe they should change it to a "This is my stop mr driver" button |
| 07:50.00 | nevcairiel | i would hate when i come running down the stairs to the station and the train drives through just as i am arriving |
| 07:50.02 | zenzio | in everyday speech it's often just "the button" here |
| 07:50.08 | nevcairiel | of course he didnt see me standing there, so he didnt stop |
| 07:50.25 | zenzio | nevcairiel: oh we do hate that, but our stuff is never on time anyway |
| 07:50.38 | zenzio | so you never really know if you missed it or not |
| 07:51.36 | nevcairiel | if you have a strict timetable, you have to calculate the time it needs for the train to stop at every station anyway, its not like a train can arrive earlier then scheduled, so the benefit would be marginal, maybe energy efficiency, but not time saved |
| 07:51.47 | nevcairiel | of course if your trains just run whenever they like, thats another matter :p |
| 07:52.06 | zenzio | they never run ahead of schedule, it's more a question of how late they'll be |
| 07:52.51 | nevcairiel | i honestly never really care for how late a subway train is, they are like every 5 minutes, so you usually dont even know when they are supposed to be there |
| 07:52.56 | nevcairiel | but of course this is a big city |
| 07:53.35 | nevcairiel | its more annoying when you travel in the middle of the night, at 3am they are only every 20, if you missed that one it gets annoying :p |
| 07:54.02 | zenzio | in my town ("large-ish" for Norway, not for anywhere else) buses go typically twice or thrice an hour, depending on where they go |
| 07:54.30 | zenzio | my bus goes twice, but its time table is like playing the lottery, you never really know which numbers it will be |
| 07:54.34 | nevcairiel | buses are pretty random here too, depending on the line and stuff |
| 07:54.48 | nevcairiel | some also go every 5 minutes, some may only go every hour |
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| 07:55.14 | nevcairiel | but its usually all on time, they have to pay fines if the yearly average for being on time is too bad |
| 07:56.21 | nevcairiel | of course everytime its criticial to get somewhere, it will still be late |
| 07:56.33 | zenzio | hehe |
| 07:56.40 | nevcairiel | that reminds me, i should adjust my alarm for tomorrow to get early enough to the airport |
| 07:57.04 | zenzio | how long ahead of departure do you need to be? |
| 07:57.35 | nevcairiel | its international, outside of EU, so they recommend at least 2 hours, i'll probably go for 3 to be save |
| 07:57.50 | bluspacecow | where going |
| 07:57.58 | nevcairiel | new york |
| 07:58.15 | bluspacecow | city or state ? |
| 07:58.40 | nevcairiel | the city is in the state |
| 07:58.45 | nevcairiel | so both |
| 08:04.27 | zenzio | vacation? |
| 08:06.00 | zenzio | the first 15 or so seconds of this song really made me think of the awesome old Lotus Turbo Challenge II theme... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQTIMbCqq1A |
| 08:06.32 | nevcairiel | half vacation and half meeting potential new employer |
| 08:06.42 | mikma | hmmrph, everyone's having a huge hardon for veela for some reason |
| 08:06.53 | Semlar | who? |
| 08:07.00 | zenzio | singer in that video |
| 08:07.33 | Semlar | how does she stand so still in this video |
| 08:08.01 | zenzio | mikma: really? I didn't think she was much known; I at least only learned about her from the Kerrigan song |
| 08:08.24 | mikma | semlar: http://makegif.com/g9yv.gif |
| 08:18.14 | sylvanaar | nevcairiel: going to work for a brokerage? |
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| 08:27.04 | nevcairiel | nah |
| 08:47.04 | zenzio | it's not CSI, is it? Cause those aren't actually real |
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| 11:29.10 | bluworkcow | http://cdn.funnie.st/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/be_careful_its_a_trap_42.gif |
| 11:39.20 | mitch0 | I hope the stupid cat suffocates |
| 11:39.33 | mitch0 | (along with all folks posting cat videos) |
| 11:41.18 | bluworkcow | i saw the cat pop his head out of the bag and thought "this isn |
| 11:41.18 | bluworkcow | 't going to end well" |
| 11:52.08 | airtonix | are we talking about Milo Kerrigan? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryW29CNO_jw |
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| 13:10.28 | Punchmonster | Greetings |
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| 13:11.41 | Punchmonster | I have a problem saving TGA textures, they keep showing up as green blocks and it's making me sad |
| 13:12.12 | Lopeppeppy | I seem to remember that's when they're not the right proportions? |
| 13:12.35 | Punchmonster | It's 32 bit TGA uncompressed at 256x256, which fits fine |
| 13:13.08 | Punchmonster | In fact I grabbed a tga from another add on just to make sure the addon was loading my image properly |
| 13:13.32 | Punchmonster | and it loaded fine, then I took that TGA, opened it in gimp and photoshop, didn't change it at all and resaved it |
| 13:13.36 | Lopeppeppy | The tga from the other was 256x256? |
| 13:13.44 | Punchmonster | as uncompressed 32 bit TGA and it refused to work |
| 13:14.30 | Lopeppeppy | So there's something odd in how your program is saving the channels, maybe? |
| 13:14.31 | Punchmonster | yeah, TGA files should work as long as they're 16, 32, 64 etc etc pixels wide or high so |
| 13:15.00 | Punchmonster | these are default gimp and photoshop set ups, yet they're doing something to it |
| 13:15.17 | Punchmonster | yet every source I can find says "just save it as an uncrompressed TGA" |
| 13:15.48 | Punchmonster | compressed* |
| 13:16.13 | Punchmonster | pic related, my save settings: http://puu.sh/43vDq.png |
| 13:16.47 | Lopeppeppy | I keep seeing "improper alpha masking" or "color depth" as possible issues, but these threads are from last year. I haven't made custom graphics in just about forever. |
| 13:17.00 | Punchmonster | well thats what I thought |
| 13:17.07 | Punchmonster | which is why I took a working tga from another addon |
| 13:17.18 | Punchmonster | and simply tried to resave it without changing it at all |
| 13:17.20 | Punchmonster | and it also broke |
| 13:18.09 | Lopeppeppy | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/7415152014 |
| 13:18.29 | Lopeppeppy | So your program is saving it with different values than it had before - number of colors, channels, something. |
| 13:21.52 | Punchmonster | yeah it is |
| 13:21.53 | Punchmonster | hmmm |
| 13:25.11 | Lopeppeppy | That's my best thread link right there, it has links out to other sources and discussions. Something isn't right in your settings - that's the last hurdle. WoW graphics are fussy fussy pedigree pooches. |
| 13:26.57 | Punchmonster | tell me about it, trying a few things now |
| 13:27.21 | alestane | If I remember right, the big challenge I had was convincing the program not to drop the alpha channel. |
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| 13:30.15 | Punchmonster | weell I know the alpha channel is there |
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| 13:30.45 | Lopeppeppy | But is it shy of being saved? |
| 13:31.30 | Punchmonster | nah, when I open the file up the alpha channel is there and masked properly |
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| 13:32.16 | alestane | What program are you using? |
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| 13:38.15 | Punchmonster | photoshop |
| 13:38.19 | Punchmonster | I think I got it working now |
| 13:38.22 | Punchmonster | I didnt change anything |
| 13:38.24 | Punchmonster | but it loaded |
| 13:38.42 | Punchmonster | magic |
| 13:42.05 | alestane | I had issues with some hidden setting in Photoshop. I found GIMP more cooperative, at least as far as saving things in the format I wanted. |
| 13:42.26 | zenzio | GIMP is very simple about it. You have an alpha channel? We save it. |
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| 14:08.52 | Punchmonster | Welp it seems to be working now so thanks guys |
| 14:09.48 | Lopeppeppy | Fussy fussy graphics. |
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| 14:27.09 | Punchmonster | Fussy indeed, then again my addon will cause much more of a fuss |
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| 15:20.04 | karl_w_w | http://i.imgur.com/l5q0eYL.jpg holy mother of god |
| 15:21.20 | Lopeppeppy | ...vivid |
| 15:23.10 | nevcairiel | why the hate for final fantasy |
| 15:23.49 | Lopeppeppy | I think it's hate for all video games, but in this case they just happened to name one. |
| 15:24.00 | karl_w_w | http://www.reddit.com/r/WTF/comments/1khkaf/final_fantasy/ |
| 15:24.03 | karl_w_w | apparently |
| 15:24.56 | alestane | Well, the image is attributed to Christians Against Final Fantasy. |
| 15:25.32 | nevcairiel | but its from christwire, which is satire |
| 15:26.01 | alestane | This is true. I've run into one or two other things from that site, and I always ave to look twice. |
| 15:26.22 | Dagmar | They need to at least try to put some tells into their stuff |
| 15:26.33 | Dagmar | It always looks a little _too_ legit |
| 15:27.03 | nevcairiel | real christians probably wouldnt use a term like "sex scented" |
| 15:27.21 | Dagmar | ...or it may be because I live in the Bible Belt and those fuckers aren't that far from reality over here. |
| 15:28.02 | Dagmar | A judge actually changed some kid's name from 'Messiah' here this week |
| 15:28.15 | Dagmar | ...claiming there is only one Messiah. |
| 15:28.26 | Dagmar | I hear the jews are preparing to file an amicus brief about that |
| 15:28.38 | nevcairiel | i read that |
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| 15:29.08 | Dagmar | I may try and take a vacation day to go watch if that winds up being argued in court |
| 15:29.31 | Dagmar | Seeing a bunch of rabbis arguing that there's been a number of possible messiahs throughout history would be great |
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| 15:31.54 | alestane | Dagmar, I didn't read that article mostly because I'd seen ones like it before. Usually, blocked-name lists are based on the claim that the name is incendiary or provocative in some way. |
| 15:32.25 | Dagmar | This isn't player names we're talking about. |
| 15:32.30 | Dagmar | This was a kid's actual name. |
| 15:32.41 | alestane | That giving your kid that name and expecting everyone around them to use it basically constitutes a form of hate speech of public disruption. |
| 15:32.50 | alestane | I'm aware. |
| 15:33.03 | alestane | speech or* public disruption. |
| 15:33.37 | Dagmar | If it was his middle name and his first name was 'The', I could understand it |
| 15:33.54 | Dagmar | Frankly, I think the judge should get busy on all those mexicans. |
| 15:34.05 | Dagmar | There's probably at least 100 Jesuses in Nashville alone |
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| 15:34.51 | alestane | Well, naming people Jesus (usually in the Spanish fashion) was a time-honored tradition long before people started worrying about things like this. |
| 15:35.11 | Dagmar | yes, but this is about pointless ethniocentrism |
| 15:35.38 | Dagmar | If you're going to be a pinheaded dimwit official, you should be a fair-handed pinheaded dimwit official. |
| 15:36.09 | Unkle | really hard to be fair when you're a pinheaded dimwit and your prejudices are engaged. |
| 15:36.34 | Dagmar | It's shit like this that used to have me going downtown every other weekend just to torment the stupid |
| 15:37.59 | Unkle | Just get a bunch of "Hello my name is ... " stickers and write "Idiot," "Moron," "Bigot," and "Dimwit" on them. Then hand them out to people saying "Here's your sign." |
| 15:39.23 | Unkle | Oh, I'm sorry... my prejudices are showing. |
| 15:39.37 | Dagmar | Oooo now there's an idea |
| 15:39.56 | Dagmar | It's a better idea than you know, since the Baptists have their massive convention here |
| 15:40.11 | Dagmar | I could *totally* get away with putting nametags like that on a table somewhere |
| 15:40.29 | Dagmar | ...and I'm exactly the type of person to put on a suit, find a high-traffic doorway, and hand them to people in person |
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| 15:40.54 | Unkle | Bonus points if you print them on a laser printer and put them in badge holders. |
| 15:41.02 | Dagmar | Oh of course |
| 15:41.19 | Dagmar | Fabricating things is one of my favorite hobbies |
| 15:42.20 | Dagmar | I was working on a Night Vale public parking pass last night--I can't quite settle on what type of arcane sigil to use as an overlay for the city council approval |
| 15:42.38 | Dagmar | I've already got a couple of orders on their way to me from papilio |
| 15:42.44 | Dagmar | new stuff I wanna play with |
| 15:43.41 | Dagmar | I was thinking of using some plain white bags that look like the usual cheap goodie bags with a nametag and a few brochures and maybe a pamphlet entitled 'So you've decided to be a bigot...' |
| 15:43.55 | Dagmar | POssibly homophobe. It all depends on which way the winds are blowing just then |
| 15:44.17 | Dagmar | Could probably put 50-100 of those out for less than $100 |
| 15:44.42 | Dagmar | ...and if your'e thinking I wouldn't spend $100 to cause an epic shitstorm somewhere, you'd be deeply mistaken. I've spent a lot more than that before. hehe |
| 15:48.07 | Unkle | Have fun causing a riot. :) |
| 15:48.16 | Dagmar | Oh I generally do. :) |
| 15:48.31 | Dagmar | My first major shitstorm was practically free |
| 15:49.00 | Dagmar | I had a rather unforgiving day and took one of the 'Miss Black MTSU Pageant' flyers and redid it as a 'Miss White MTSU Pageant'. |
| 15:49.35 | Dagmar | Less than a week later some pastor had to explain to his congregation that someone was _clearly_ just screwing with them, because they were about to storm administration |
| 15:49.56 | Dagmar | I twetelly didn't expect people would get that wound up about it. It was _great_ |
| 15:50.16 | Dagmar | Prolly iddn't help that I put htem up all over campus |
| 15:50.23 | Unkle | Dagmar, Trolling the worl for 20+ years. |
| 15:50.30 | Dagmar | Oh yes |
| 15:50.59 | Dagmar | I can flyer an area in broad daylight and be completely invisible now |
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| 15:55.21 | Lopeppeppy | Flyer-people are as invisible as panhandlers and kids on skateboards. Sadly. |
| 16:01.06 | Punchmonster | does curse have any specific requirements for addons besides dont breach the ToS? |
| 16:01.16 | Punchmonster | time to find out |
| 16:05.36 | nevcairiel | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:05.44 | Lopeppeppy | http://wow.curseforge.com/wiki/resources-for-new-authors/ |
| 16:07.02 | Lopeppeppy | http://www.curseforge.com/wiki/knowledge-base/policy/project-acceptance-policy/ |
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| 16:25.15 | alestane | Dagmar: http://www.economist.com/node/21542749 |
| 16:26.36 | Lopeppeppy | la la la la stupid online form programming, la la la la stab. |
| 16:28.46 | Dagmar | Yeah we have no lists like that here. |
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| 16:38.27 | Fisker | hey bluipodcow |
| 16:38.30 | Fisker | or bluworkcow |
| 16:38.31 | Fisker | heist? |
| 16:39.40 | bluworkcow | wat |
| 16:40.04 | Fisker | HEIST?! |
| 16:40.47 | bluworkcow | https://twitter.com/CM_Zeriyah/status/368407495804338176 |
| 16:40.50 | bluworkcow | want sum cake ? |
| 16:41.18 | bluworkcow | Oh noes Red Shirt guy on twitter |
| 16:47.23 | Ressy | nice |
| 16:47.59 | karl_w_w | fuck sake bluworkcow |
| 16:48.02 | karl_w_w | gief cake! |
| 16:48.05 | pompy1 | http://i.imgur.com/n4OoWYn.png |
| 16:51.22 | karl_w_w | it's time for some goddam hearthstonez |
| 16:56.42 | Lopeppeppy | Now I want cake. Damn you all. |
| 16:57.46 | bluworkcow | ~framexml |
| 16:57.47 | purl | hmm... framexml is Blizzard's UI for WoW. Export code/art from the client by using the wow.exe -console or open 'World of Warcraft.app' --args -console after game loads press ~ and enter commands "ExportInterfaceFiles code" and "ExportInterfaceFiles art" (must be used on login screen); or view it online at http://github.com/tekkub/wow-ui-source , http://wowprogramming.com/utils/xmlbrowser or http://wow.go-hero.net/framexml |
| 17:00.06 | Lopeppeppy | bluberry, I am not going to program my cake in framexml. This ain't Portal. |
| 17:01.17 | bluworkcow | ? |
| 17:01.23 | bluworkcow | you don't program cakes silly Peppy |
| 17:01.26 | bluworkcow | you eats them! |
| 17:03.20 | bluworkcow | there was a thread about a person's macro not working and i wanted to check if that command still worked. |
| 17:03.32 | bluworkcow | but they deleted their thread so aaaa well ! |
| 17:08.30 | Lopeppeppy | Oh. I thought that was somehow supposed to be a kitchen suggestion for me and my baking. |
| 17:08.43 | Lopeppeppy | I haven't baked since I moved into the new house. That's dumb headed. |
| 17:12.03 | Unkle | Lopeppeppy: mmmm... cake |
| 17:12.31 | Lopeppeppy | My sister can make cakes and frosting and has this whole cake decorating set. Totally jealous. |
| 17:12.43 | bluworkcow | ~wowalert |
| 17:12.44 | purl | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US); http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) [NB: Returns empty content unless there is an active alert] |
| 17:12.46 | bluworkcow | ~d3alert |
| 17:12.46 | purl | http://us.launcher.battle.net/service/d3/alert/en-us (US) or http://eu.launcher.battle.net/service/d3/alert/en-gb (EU) [NB: Returns empty content unless there is an active alert] |
| 17:14.46 | Unkle | Lopeppeppy: You need to set up an amazon wish list. *nod* |
| 17:14.53 | Unkle | And then share. |
| 17:16.50 | Lopeppeppy | I can't mail you a cake in return, Unkle! They don't ship. |
| 17:17.23 | Lopeppeppy | And if I am realistic, I haven't baked because I've ripped two walls out of my friggin' kitchen since I moved in, and am missing huge chunks of floor still... |
| 17:19.48 | bluworkcow | they don't fit in the slot |
| 17:19.51 | bluworkcow | :| |
| 17:19.56 | bluworkcow | giggigty giggitgy |
| 17:27.52 | pompy1 | http://nerdreactor.com/2013/08/16/bioware-writer-leaves-company-due-to-death-threats-to-kids/ wow fucked up. |
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| 17:30.05 | Fisker | yeah |
| 17:31.52 | Fisker | I personally think her viewpoint was kinda messed up for video games, but that shit just has no place :/ |
| 17:40.53 | Lopeppeppy | Thank you, Fisker. |
| 17:42.07 | Lopeppeppy | And pompy1. Nasty online environment. *frown* |
| 17:45.22 | bluworkcow | moah HS forums! http://us.battle.net/hearthstone/en/forum/ |
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| 17:54.01 | alestane | The professor in my last class spent quite a while on how incredibly hostile the game industry can get to people who rock the boat, and female developers tend to be regarded as rocking the boat by being female. |
| 18:06.59 | jnwhiteh | bluworkcow: you know what to do |
| 18:07.19 | bluworkcow | about ? |
| 18:07.40 | jnwhiteh | subliminal posting to ensure I get a beta invite |
| 18:08.40 | bluworkcow | oh |
| 18:08.41 | bluworkcow | ok |
| 18:09.18 | bluworkcow | i'm not sure if it's going to work like google mail beta |
| 18:09.48 | Fisker | i hate google mail beta |
| 18:09.50 | jnwhiteh | =) |
| 18:09.51 | Fisker | i get so much spam :( |
| 18:09.54 | Fisker | and sometimes nudes |
| 18:09.56 | Fisker | but mostly spam |
| 18:09.58 | jnwhiteh | my sexual favours are.. favour.. |
| 18:10.01 | jnwhiteh | ful |
| 18:10.37 | Fisker | it's annoying how many people mistakenly send mail to me :( |
| 18:10.48 | jnwhiteh | rly? |
| 18:10.51 | jnwhiteh | i get text spam in sweden all the time |
| 18:10.51 | Fisker | yeah |
| 18:10.53 | jnwhiteh | WHO DOES THAT? |
| 18:10.54 | Fisker | :o |
| 18:11.04 | jnwhiteh | the new hotness is google calendar spam invites |
| 18:11.05 | jnwhiteh | go to my phone |
| 18:11.06 | jnwhiteh | fuck them |
| 18:11.10 | Fisker | it's not even spam :P |
| 18:11.23 | Fisker | there's like seriously 5 different people that i have gotten mail from |
| 18:11.44 | Fisker | i mean mail from someone thinking that i was one of those 5 different people |
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| 19:03.52 | mikma | tharper: http://imgur.com/gallery/OkAFYHO |
| 19:04.12 | tharper | oh dear |
| 19:04.17 | Fisker | i'll be your fista friend |
| 19:04.21 | Fisker | oh my |
| 19:04.44 | mikma | fisker: http://imgur.com/gallery/S9RZvgY |
| 19:05.01 | Stanzilla | hahahha |
| 19:05.06 | Fisker | i had lesson one and two today |
| 19:05.16 | Fisker | manboobs and penis :( |
| 19:05.30 | Fisker | no offense tharper :o |
| 19:06.23 | tharper | lolwut |
| 19:06.39 | Fisker | yeah |
| 19:06.45 | Fisker | dunno why he did that :o |
| 19:07.23 | mikma | fisker: http://imgur.com/gallery/ZwDA46V |
| 19:11.07 | Fisker | http://i.imgur.com/LAVxTfz.jpg |
| 19:11.13 | Fisker | truer words have never been spoken mikma |
| 19:12.15 | mikma | fisker: oh crap :P |
| 19:12.26 | mikma | but, here's a brainfuck: http://imgur.com/gallery/TQ9Qo9x |
| 19:14.24 | fewyn | ohai hearthstone beta key |
| 19:16.40 | Fisker | :( |
| 19:19.25 | Stanzilla | giev |
| 19:20.13 | fewyn | nope |
| 19:20.18 | fewyn | IT BEEN USED |
| 19:20.30 | fewyn | downloading the game at 2.3 mb/s |
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| 19:22.16 | bluworkcow | screenshot of beta key email ? |
| 19:22.30 | mikma | bluworkcow: http://imgur.com/gallery/KCegq |
| 19:23.08 | bluworkcow | wat |
| 19:35.17 | Fisker | no beta key email bluworkcow |
| 19:35.20 | Fisker | silly |
| 19:35.51 | bluworkcow | lol |
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| 19:44.08 | Zootfizzle | Merp! |
| 19:44.27 | Fisker | sup |
| 19:44.55 | Zootfizzle | Not a lot |
| 19:45.13 | Zootfizzle | Just thought I'd pop my head in and see who was around |
| 19:46.06 | Fisker | hey haste |
| 19:46.08 | Fisker | you guys are crazy |
| 19:46.15 | Fisker | i'm around :3 |
| 19:46.29 | Zootfizzle | :3 |
| 19:54.01 | Lopeppeppy | Merp... *sadface* |
| 19:57.45 | Torhal | Bah |
| 20:05.16 | zenzelezz | as much as I hate kids singing... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_iEn4C9nss&feature=youtu.be |
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| 21:20.09 | kd3 | gotta love moving across state lines as a kid... georgia apparently thinks I never got vaccinated, got chickenpox, etc... |
| 21:21.04 | kd3 | which is amusing, considering I had to finish my k-12 education and college stuff in georgia, so I had to turn that info in in order to register... |
| 21:25.01 | bleeter | UNCLEAN! UNCLEAN! |
| 21:30.11 | zenzelezz | "'delete old' is declaring a variable called old of type delete. Its not a method call. If you want to delete old, it should be 'delete(old);'" -- why you should be cautious on Stack Overflow |
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| 21:49.22 | g0urra | http://i.imgur.com/wgzJ5Nf.jpg |
| 21:50.56 | Fisker | swedes g0urra |
| 21:57.00 | cogwheel | danishes Fisker |
| 21:58.43 | Fisker | what up cogwheel ? |
| 21:59.00 | cogwheel | i has a fruit snacks |
| 21:59.02 | cogwheel | omnomnom |
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| 21:59.10 | cogwheel | ohai |
| 22:02.01 | Fisker | nice |
| 22:02.03 | Fisker | i like fruit snacks |
| 22:02.37 | bluspacecow | *luffs cogwheel* |
| 22:03.02 | Fisker | why don't you luff me? |
| 22:04.36 | Fisker | Shirik |
| 22:04.36 | Fisker | heist? |
| 22:04.45 | cogwheel | caaaaaan has feeeeels the luffffffff toniiiiiiight |
| 22:04.53 | Fisker | heist cogwheel ? |
| 22:06.09 | cogwheel | aroo? |
| 22:07.16 | Fisker | heist |
| 22:26.26 | Shirik | hey Fisker |
| 22:26.40 | Fisker | heist? |
| 22:26.48 | cogwheel | why don't you luff me? |
| 22:28.08 | Fisker | do you even heist cogwheel ? |
| 22:29.24 | cogwheel | heist? |
| 22:30.48 | Shirik | hey Fisker |
| 22:30.51 | Shirik | your face, I like that shit |
| 22:31.08 | Fisker | ? |
| 22:31.10 | Shirik | https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=JUeI8cekvA4 |
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| 22:57.08 | A-KO | wtf happened to the internets |
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| 22:57.50 | bluspacecow | Hearthstone Beta. |
| 22:57.54 | bluspacecow | FF something something beta |
| 22:58.08 | bluspacecow | 4 Tradmarks for Blizzard made with drama over which ones are real |
| 22:58.25 | bluspacecow | Also Fisker woke up |
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| 23:52.42 | Shirik | Mediawiki's blocking system is quite robust |
| 23:52.48 | Shirik | (del/undel) 16:51, 16 August 2013 Reaper Eternal (talk | contribs | block) changed block settings for ThisIsaTest (talk | contribs) with an expiry time of 1 millennium and 12 hours (account creation blocked) (sockpuppet) (unblock | change block) |
| 23:56.40 | Iriel | blocks shirik for 1 millennium and 13 seconds |
| 23:57.58 | jleclanche | Cairenn: http://i.imgur.com/619XHqD.jpg |
| 23:58.08 | Cairenn | heh |
