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| 00:24.59 | bleeter | Cairenn: https://twitter.com/carlrosman/status/361911435640598528 |
| 00:25.22 | Cairenn | heh |
| 00:39.41 | airtonix | plot twist: tc-work is the co-worker |
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| 00:58.26 | TC-Work | airtonix: huh? |
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| 00:58.43 | airtonix | <TC-Work> Not even an emails away :( |
| 00:59.00 | airtonix | :> |
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| 03:15.10 | Stanzilla | sexy bda update |
| 03:16.13 | fewyn | ? |
| 03:17.04 | Stanzilla | battle.net desktop app |
| 03:17.07 | Stanzilla | update |
| 03:17.13 | fewyn | i'm still not in that beta :( |
| 03:17.16 | Stanzilla | :( |
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| 03:40.33 | Thunder_Child | Same |
| 03:40.45 | Thunder_Child | I just pretend it is not as awesome as people make it sound. |
| 03:41.30 | Kraps | whats it for |
| 03:42.06 | Thunder_Child | Ease of use |
| 03:42.10 | Seerah | awesomeness |
| 03:42.24 | Thunder_Child | ~lart Seerah |
| 03:42.24 | purl | beats Seerah senseless with a 50lb Unix manual |
| 03:42.25 | Kraps | eh? |
| 03:43.43 | Thunder_Child | if you are signed in, you don't need to log into individual games |
| 03:43.53 | Thunder_Child | might have chat as well, not sure. |
| 03:43.57 | Kraps | ah |
| 04:00.30 | Seerah | I don't see chat |
| 04:00.45 | Seerah | it does show you b.net friends that are online, though |
| 04:00.52 | Seerah | (chat may be coming) |
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| 04:33.14 | Fisker | what update is that Stanzilla ? |
| 04:34.26 | Fisker | well atleast it appears the launcher works now for us non-betaers |
| 04:37.30 | airtonix | you mean gutter flapping peasants |
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| 05:27.24 | kd3 | sucks in a breath |
| 05:28.07 | kd3 | an LP gas plant in central florida caught fire, not too far away from where I used to live |
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| 05:36.47 | Semlar | tavares |
| 05:36.54 | Semlar | it's about 20 miles from me |
| 05:38.12 | Semlar | it's mostly out |
| 06:01.44 | bleeter | Star Wars Downunder Trailer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJDTMDtc1KQ |
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| 06:08.26 | airtonix | strueth |
| 06:11.11 | bleeter | *struth |
| 06:11.26 | airtonix | no |
| 06:11.35 | karl_w_w | struth? there's no ooh sound in struth |
| 06:11.35 | airtonix | i don't strut like ruth |
| 06:11.58 | airtonix | i got cooee like a fkn roo |
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| 06:15.01 | karl_w_w | lol |
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| 06:15.11 | acdcworld | hey hello everybody |
| 06:15.15 | karl_w_w | stop this madness now ya boof 'eds |
| 06:16.23 | bleeter | karl_w_w: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grh0tlJtViw |
| 06:16.39 | acdcworld | hello i need help can u please help me im working on a little project i just need a good software for my personal use cause im doing like a menu in .c with some .h files and i want to work with all the files in the same software someone have a good software for me |
| 06:16.53 | acdcworld | and i use windows like os |
| 06:17.37 | airtonix | lawl |
| 06:17.59 | karl_w_w | nothing beats This is Perth, bleeter |
| 06:19.19 | airtonix | aye that cuz been around aye brudda |
| 06:19.44 | airtonix | did he do alice springs and darwin? |
| 06:20.45 | karl_w_w | he did alice springs and all of NT |
| 06:20.54 | karl_w_w | dont remember seeing darwin |
| 06:21.22 | airtonix | pretty much the same town separated by a fairly long main street |
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| 06:46.43 | Mike-N-Go | Long time. |
| 06:53.47 | zenzelezz | no see? |
| 07:01.53 | Mike-N-Go | Sæ no¿ |
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| 09:45.23 | airtonix | makes pidgeon noises at bluspacecow |
| 09:45.38 | bluspacecow | herro to you too |
| 09:57.36 | Xandr | are you talking to yourself on twitter now, blu? :) |
| 09:58.50 | bluspacecow | >_> |
| 09:58.52 | bluspacecow | <_< |
| 09:58.57 | bluspacecow | maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaybe |
| 10:01.47 | Fisker | isn't that what twitter is for? |
| 10:02.25 | bluspacecow | i need to tweet about my bowel movements more then |
| 10:02.46 | Xandr | please don't |
| 10:05.59 | Semlar | youtube is impressively good at detecting copyrighted music in a video |
| 10:07.19 | Semlar | the next time i have a recording of a song i can't figure out the name of i'll just upload it to youtube and it'll probably identify it |
| 10:07.43 | bluspacecow | ha ha lol |
| 10:07.50 | bluspacecow | BRB shower |
| 10:08.00 | Semlar | cows don't use showers |
| 10:08.23 | zenzelezz | space cows do |
| 10:08.30 | Semlar | how do they operate the knobs |
| 10:08.39 | bluspacecow | 'cause dey stinky |
| 10:08.41 | bluspacecow | ESP |
| 10:08.49 | bluspacecow | telekenisis |
| 10:10.00 | Semlar | oh |
| 10:11.56 | bluspacecow | BRB |
| 10:21.03 | karl_w_w | why is it that there's a red mark on my hand that just won't go away? |
| 10:21.54 | karl_w_w | it's at the end of the crease that forms when you hold your thumb against the side of your hand |
| 10:22.11 | Semlar | herpes |
| 10:22.16 | Mr_Rabies | is it kool aid |
| 10:22.45 | Mr_Rabies | every time i mix crystal light i do a mild freakout because my hand ends up covered in lots of tiny red dots after a few hours |
| 10:22.49 | bluspacecow | subconsciously becoming lady mcbeth ? |
| 10:22.55 | karl_w_w | it looks like a burn |
| 10:23.11 | karl_w_w | but I hasn't burned myself and it's been there since friday at least |
| 10:23.16 | Mr_Rabies | (it's the dust from the drink mix melting and staining my skin) |
| 10:23.20 | Semlar | maybe you're being too aggressive |
| 10:23.30 | karl_w_w | lol |
| 10:23.30 | Mr_Rabies | could just be inflammation for whatever reason |
| 10:23.34 | bluspacecow | maybe you being too agreesive fapping |
| 10:23.36 | Mr_Rabies | does it hurt at all |
| 10:23.39 | Mr_Rabies | or itch |
| 10:23.43 | karl_w_w | no |
| 10:23.47 | bluspacecow | does it go away after a shower > |
| 10:23.57 | karl_w_w | I don't fap with the outside of my hand :P |
| 10:24.03 | Mr_Rabies | lightweight |
| 10:24.30 | Mr_Rabies | eh, could be anything |
| 10:24.35 | karl_w_w | no bluspacecow |
| 10:24.37 | karl_w_w | it could be! |
| 10:24.40 | Mr_Rabies | i had a red spot on my arm for several days after sleeping on it once |
| 10:24.41 | karl_w_w | maybe it's aids |
| 10:25.11 | Semlar | always assume aids |
| 10:25.41 | Mr_Rabies | turns out it was just where pressure was applied at a crease in the fitted sheet underneath me, since my arm was between it and me |
| 10:26.29 | Mr_Rabies | does it turn white when you poke it (assuming your skin's light enough for that sorta test to work) |
| 10:26.58 | Semlar | you can't just go around poking things |
| 10:27.09 | Mr_Rabies | maybe it's a tiny sunburn |
| 10:27.33 | Semlar | yeah maybe that tiny sliver of skin was briefly exposed to sunlight |
| 10:27.34 | Mr_Rabies | perhaps like, 14 photons find their way there enough of the day to burn a tiny spot on your arm |
| 10:28.06 | Mr_Rabies | a 14 photon wide ray of sunlight over long enough time, that is |
| 10:31.15 | karl_w_w | yeah it goes white |
| 10:31.23 | Mr_Rabies | maybe you're turning into a demon |
| 10:31.36 | karl_w_w | and it's winter and was raining pretty much non-stop last week so I doubt sunburn |
| 10:31.45 | karl_w_w | plus I don't burn easily |
| 10:31.59 | airtonix | time to load up the nuclear wasteland |
| 10:32.15 | Mr_Rabies | maybe you've always been a demon but it's just now manifesting physically while you're awake |
| 10:32.18 | Semlar | you probably just injured yourself without noticing or are irritating it somehow |
| 10:32.41 | Mr_Rabies | maybe a tiny man crawls out of your ear and night and pokes it with a fork all night |
| 10:32.53 | Mr_Rabies | er minus "and night" |
| 10:33.01 | karl_w_w | I already said maybe it's aids |
| 10:33.10 | Semlar | is that how aids works? |
| 10:33.18 | karl_w_w | well yeah |
| 10:33.39 | Mr_Rabies | have you encountered any octopi lately |
| 10:33.47 | Mr_Rabies | i hear those tentacles leave quite the hickey |
| 10:33.48 | karl_w_w | no :P |
| 10:33.53 | airtonix | karl_w_w: lacking nutrition lately? |
| 10:34.08 | karl_w_w | my nutrition has been boringly good lately |
| 10:34.13 | Semlar | maybe you're developing scurvy |
| 10:34.26 | Semlar | check for an eyepatch |
| 10:34.47 | karl_w_w | oh snap! |
| 10:35.00 | karl_w_w | I wondered why things were looking darker out of my left eye |
| 10:35.18 | Mr_Rabies | i wonder |
| 10:35.24 | Mr_Rabies | do they make sun-monocles |
| 10:35.31 | airtonix | toting a leg peg = sure sign of scurvy |
| 10:35.34 | Mr_Rabies | like sunglasses...but monocles |
| 10:36.03 | Semlar | did you know that the eyepatch was to keep one eye accustomed to the dark so they could see when they went below deck |
| 10:36.22 | Mr_Rabies | dunno how true that was but it certainly works |
| 10:36.34 | karl_w_w | yeah I knew that Semlar |
| 10:36.35 | airtonix | to avoid the "Ivory Shank of Redeeming Promotion" |
| 10:37.01 | airtonix | yarrr be giving me that promotion now |
| 10:37.07 | Mr_Rabies | if you wake up in the middle of the night to do whatever, keep one eye closed until your return trip and you can see your way back easier |
| 10:37.29 | Mr_Rabies | assuming you bother to cut the lights on |
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| 10:37.37 | Mr_Rabies | i tend to just stumble around in the dark and trip over my fan |
| 10:37.57 | Semlar | your fan sleeps with you? |
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| 10:38.09 | airtonix | fans |
| 10:38.11 | Mr_Rabies | i've got groupies |
| 10:38.11 | Mr_Rabies | yeah |
| 10:39.47 | karl_w_w | wish I had fans |
| 10:40.00 | karl_w_w | other than airtonix |
| 10:40.34 | Mr_Rabies | okay it's 7 am almost and i'm going just a bit insane |
| 10:40.50 | Mr_Rabies | goodnight #wowuidev |
| 10:41.04 | Semlar | sun's up |
| 10:41.06 | bluspacecow | ni ni #mr_rabies |
| 10:41.06 | Semlar | too late |
| 10:43.53 | bluspacecow | work tiems |
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| 11:44.50 | zenzelezz | http://youtu.be/tkEvSjdDfiA?t=3m18s pretty good actually |
| 11:47.49 | zenzelezz | maybe not as funny for those not familiar with the British version of The Office (a.k.a. the original, the good one) |
| 11:49.13 | airtonix | http://i.imgur.com/AatwcfQ.png |
| 11:51.32 | airtonix | seems legit |
| 11:53.26 | zenzelezz | Atlantic Rim? |
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| 14:04.16 | Fisker | wow bluipodcow |
| 14:04.23 | Fisker | you guys are going nuts over the prices in australia |
| 14:04.31 | bluipodcow | Oh ? |
| 14:04.53 | Fisker | apparently you're considering amending your copyright laws so you can easier evade region locking :D |
| 14:04.57 | Fisker | that piracy |
| 14:05.33 | bluipodcow | In NZ? |
| 14:06.36 | airtonix | he is referring to the empire not the colonies |
| 14:06.42 | airtonix | derp |
| 14:11.56 | karl_w_w | http://delimiter.com.au/2013/07/29/drastic-govt-measures-needed-it-price-hike-pulls-no-punches/ |
| 14:14.53 | bluipodcow | Oh rly? |
| 14:27.51 | Fisker | holy shit |
| 14:27.54 | Fisker | this shit is hilarious |
| 14:28.02 | Fisker | http://www.symantec.com/connect/blogs/new-japanese-not-just-one-click-fraud-google-play |
| 14:29.06 | Fisker | don't you just hate it bluipodcow ? |
| 14:29.46 | Fisker | When you search for non-existing search terms, non-existing sites or weird japanese stuff then you might find several porn apps |
| 14:30.22 | Fisker | and if you're not careful you might install them, go to a japanese site, send them an e-mail for user activation, be linked to another japanese site, call a phone number and pay $3000 in an annual fee for porn |
| 14:30.34 | Fisker | almost dying over here |
| 14:34.29 | bluipodcow | Oh my |
| 14:34.39 | bluipodcow | Sounds exciting fisker |
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| 14:48.29 | karl_w_w | how is that even a scam |
| 14:48.47 | karl_w_w | or fraud |
| 14:49.29 | Semlar | because nobody should have to pay for porn |
| 14:53.45 | Lopeppeppy | Oooh, 1.2 G worth of updates for my CS6. Taking bets on how long that will take my computer to process... |
| 14:55.36 | bluipodcow | Oh hi |
| 14:56.12 | Fisker | aint nobody got money for that Lopeppeppy |
| 14:58.32 | karl_w_w | yeah, don't you know we've got a recession to worry about? |
| 14:58.47 | karl_w_w | oh wait, I live in Australia |
| 14:58.59 | karl_w_w | chuckles at all the people! |
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| 15:18.00 | Dagmar | Lopeppeppy: You should email them and remind them they didn't put in a changelog for the talent trees. |
| 15:18.11 | Dagmar | Lopeppeppy: ...cuz normally only MMOs patch like that. |
| 15:18.44 | Dagmar | Nudge brush is OP anyway |
| 15:19.02 | Lopeppeppy | Apparently most of the bulk was in Media Encoder - I turned that off, 5 minutes to do everything else. |
| 15:19.19 | Dagmar | Jesus |
| 15:19.41 | Lopeppeppy | Still working on some lingering LDAP issues on the network side anyway, Adobe updates can go get stuffed. |
| 15:20.06 | Dagmar | If it's an AD server just give up and find a new job while you still can |
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| 15:21.30 | Dagmar | I've got a nonsense issue with LDAP-AD here I'm pretty close to having to start doing packet dumps of every transaction just to track down |
| 15:22.02 | Semlar | sounds messy |
| 15:22.50 | Dagmar | No, messy is what will happen if I ever get ahold of those AD admins when there's no witnesses |
| 15:23.19 | Dagmar | I'm pretty sure the problem is related to the fact that one out of the ten AD servers shows a different cert chain when you query it. |
| 15:24.34 | Dagmar | That's not really a thing servers that are supposed to be identical by definition are supposed to exhibit. |
| 15:25.20 | Dagmar | If I have to pour millions of lines of dumps into my eyes to find the problem, I'm not going to be subtle to management about asking why the AD cluster is being mismanaged to this degree |
| 15:25.48 | Dagmar | I told them a month ago they needed to look at their certs very carefully |
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| 15:44.35 | Lopeppeppy | I'm not sure what our LDAP is, but I think it's partially homebrewed, and the yeast is dead. |
| 15:45.21 | Semlar | potent |
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| 16:01.51 | zenzelezz | sounds about right for a developer... http://d3j5vwomefv46c.cloudfront.net/photos/large/795272903.gif?1375176386 |
| 16:03.49 | VIad | americans! http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/thu-july-25-2013/john-oliver-s-arcane-details-of-boron-group-metals-pricing-update |
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| 16:33.04 | End | yeeesh chrome has some issues dealing with svg |
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| 16:33.49 | zenzelezz | oh? |
| 16:34.49 | End | it looks like browser is hanging for about 15s reading this svg file, but doesn't seem to always have issues |
| 16:35.13 | VIad | huge economic scandal and no americans care :3 |
| 16:35.21 | End | timeline view is all I'm going off so far |
| 16:36.15 | End | oh! |
| 16:36.20 | End | maybe it's not chrome's fault |
| 16:36.49 | End | well, not entirely |
| 16:37.23 | End | the browser page is straight up hanging for about 15 seconds, but I might be sending it something bad and it's blaming thr wrong thing |
| 16:37.48 | End | (should still file a bug if I figure out what is causing it) |
| 16:42.10 | End | huh, apparently imagemagick has a vague basic understanding of svg |
| 16:42.15 | End | and chrome does not like the result |
| 16:46.45 | jleclanche | in analytics, how do you call a specific type of statistic? |
| 16:47.06 | jleclanche | like "user landed on page" or "user closed the window" |
| 16:47.31 | VIad | javascript |
| 16:47.38 | jleclanche | eh? |
| 16:47.39 | VIad | nvm :P |
| 16:49.30 | Shirik | http://i.imgur.com/IWnyr3V.jpg |
| 16:50.08 | zenzelezz | well, he used the right hashtag |
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| 16:53.53 | kd3 | so I'm in the market for a new router |
| 16:53.56 | kd3 | anyone have suggestions? |
| 16:54.13 | VIad | decide if you want it moddable or not |
| 16:54.18 | VIad | some like custom firmware |
| 16:54.39 | kd3 | meh, I'm running dd-wrt on my router right now, but it's not a dealbreaker |
| 16:56.37 | jleclanche | kd3: linksys? |
| 16:56.43 | jleclanche | kd3: Arrowmaster or Dagmar might know |
| 16:57.31 | nevcairiel | whats with adys doing a jnwhiteh |
| 16:57.42 | Adys | its for the lxde channel |
| 16:57.57 | nevcairiel | they frown upon easy to type nicknames? |
| 16:58.13 | Adys | no, it's just less confusing |
| 16:59.33 | kd3 | meh, I'd rather not use linksys if it's got the stupid cloud-only firmware thing |
| 17:00.04 | Shirik | "buy why would you buy a router that's not connected to the internetz?!?!!" |
| 17:00.45 | Shirik | Every time I meet someone who thinks they understand networking because they set up their home wireless, I want to shoot myself |
| 17:01.21 | VIad | Shirik: you bought a router that is not connected to the internet? LOL sucker |
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| 17:02.07 | Shirik | the other day I spent like 30 minutes trying to convince someone that it's OK for two computers on the same network to have different subnet masks, and they can still talk to each other, if you know what you're doing |
| 17:02.17 | Shirik | unusual, yes, but not invalid |
| 17:02.35 | VIad | the masks are only to limit how many IP's the rotuer deals out or? |
| 17:02.52 | Shirik | the subnet mask dictates who it thinks is "local" |
| 17:03.17 | Shirik | basically it works with the default gateawy like this |
| 17:03.26 | Shirik | a route is set up for "all addresses" to your default gateway IP |
| 17:03.37 | Shirik | and then a second route is set up for everyone within the subnet to "local" |
| 17:03.44 | Shirik | (i.e., just go direct) |
| 17:03.57 | Shirik | so if you're outside the subnet, assuming you don't have any routes, it will actually send the packet to the gateway IP |
| 17:04.06 | Shirik | whom then will have its own route to follow, and so fortrh |
| 17:04.10 | Fisker | hey Shirik |
| 17:04.13 | Shirik | hey Fisker |
| 17:04.26 | Fisker | i like you |
| 17:04.38 | Shirik | I like me too |
| 17:04.49 | Fisker | what about me? |
| 17:05.02 | Shirik | ok you can be liked too |
| 17:05.17 | kd3 | considering the Asus RT-AC66U? |
| 17:06.29 | Fisker | cool |
| 17:06.40 | Fisker | why get draft routers+ |
| 17:06.41 | Fisker | ? |
| 17:12.23 | Adys | kd3: well if you figure things out let me know what you go with |
| 17:12.25 | Adys | im interested |
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| 17:13.41 | Fisker | get the asus one |
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| 17:20.32 | Unkle1 | Verdict is in for Manning case. |
| 17:20.54 | Ressy | over 122yrs for guilty charges already |
| 17:20.57 | Ressy | max sentences. |
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| 17:26.37 | Ressy | "Manning faces 136 year MAX punishment on the crimes he was found GUILTY-- sentencing begins tomorrow." |
| 17:28.28 | Unkle1 | Rough. |
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| 17:29.05 | TC-Work | Eh, he knew what he was doing. |
| 17:29.41 | Unkle1 | At least it's just prison, and not firing squad |
| 17:30.23 | TC-Work | Depends on who you ask. I think I would prefer death over life imprisonment. |
| 17:31.30 | zenzelezz | in US prisons at least |
| 17:31.44 | Unkle1 | To be cliché, where there is life, there is hope. |
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| 17:34.38 | Fisker | there's an rt-ac68u on its way too Adys |
| 17:34.48 | Adys | i have to go actually |
| 17:34.51 | Adys | fencing in a min |
| 17:34.53 | Adys | bbl |
| 17:35.33 | Fisker | lol fencing |
| 17:35.41 | Fisker | it's not like you're british |
| 17:35.47 | Adys | Im french |
| 17:35.51 | Adys | fencing's my thing by law |
| 17:36.30 | Fisker | you probably just signed up to get an excuse to leave me :( |
| 17:38.18 | Unkle1 | Fencing is awesome. |
| 17:38.52 | bluipodcow | Are you building fences like a macho farmer man ? |
| 17:39.07 | bluipodcow | Or poking each other with sabres? |
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| 17:41.51 | TC-Work | I was going to make a comment about a useless combat skill, but I think we have had this discussion before. |
| 17:43.36 | Unkle1 | Ritualized combat is ... well ritual and not combat. But you can learn a lot about sword-play from fencing. |
| 17:45.29 | cogwheel | rule #1: don't cross the streams |
| 17:46.27 | TC-Work | hits cogwheel with a sprocket. |
| 17:46.58 | cogwheel | ~sprocketshield |
| 17:48.15 | Fisker | for seppuku Unkle1 ? |
| 17:48.17 | Fisker | hey cogwheel |
| 17:48.44 | Unkle1 | that's ritual suicide, not combat. |
| 17:49.49 | cogwheel | whey fhisker |
| 17:51.22 | bluipodcow | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:00.49 | Fisker | you are a meanie cogwheel :( |
| 18:02.13 | cogwheel | usadbro? |
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| 18:05.10 | Fisker | yes |
| 18:05.15 | Fisker | everyone hates me |
| 18:05.49 | fewyn | http://www.humblebundle.com/ new humble bundle |
| 18:06.54 | cogwheel | Fisker: i made you some worms to eat |
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| 18:11.46 | sumeet | world of warcraffftttttt |
| 18:12.10 | cogwheel | is that still a thing? |
| 18:12.11 | cogwheel | <.< |
| 18:12.21 | jnwhiteh | :P |
| 18:13.31 | sumeet | rofl |
| 18:13.34 | sumeet | i think its died a lot |
| 18:14.37 | jnwhiteh | still fun =) |
| 18:14.56 | sumeet | hmm yeah just dont have any friends left on tich really |
| 18:18.55 | jnwhiteh | http://i.imgur.com/VoS7oYh.png |
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| 18:25.30 | bluipodcow | Home times |
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| 18:44.03 | Fisker | hey jnwhiteh :) |
| 18:44.08 | jnwhiteh | hihi |
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| 18:44.38 | Fisker | :) |
| 18:46.10 | Fisker | :( |
| 18:46.12 | Fisker | :) |
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| 18:52.21 | alestane | Hi; I have two lua files as part of an IVR, one of which is run directly from the dialplan, and the other of which is run through bind_meta_app. Both try to load the same support file which is in the same directory with them. The script run from the dialplan finds it, but the script run from bind_meta_app can't locate this file. This sounds like an issue with something in the freeSWITCH config to me. How can I get these two checking th |
| 18:52.22 | alestane | same resources? |
| 18:52.33 | alestane | Oops, wrong room. |
| 18:54.48 | jnwhiteh | indeed |
| 18:54.49 | jnwhiteh | =) |
| 18:56.54 | alestane | Have you ever done any work related to freeSWITCH, jnwhiteh? |
| 18:57.01 | jnwhiteh | nope |
| 18:57.09 | alestane | I got sucked into debugging someone's IVR because it was written in Lua. |
| 18:57.37 | alestane | Apparently freeSWITCH has embraced it as their recommended scripting language. |
| 18:58.20 | Primer | Is that a fork of asterisk? |
| 18:58.35 | Primer | Or some asterisk metapackage? |
| 18:59.02 | alestane | No idea. Although when I mentioned it to someone else, they immediately said "Huh, I thought the main package for that kind of application was asterisk." |
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| 19:00.35 | alestane | http://www.freeswitch.org/node/117 It's apparetly a new project form one of the contributors of asterisk. |
| 19:00.40 | alestane | sp* |
| 19:02.31 | Primer | tl;dr |
| 19:02.41 | Primer | I did skim it though |
| 19:02.53 | TC-Work | I also propose tl;dc |
| 19:03.02 | Primer | I've seen the asterisk code...he makes some good points |
| 19:03.38 | alestane | "too long; didn't copy"? |
| 19:04.06 | Primer | care, I'm guessing |
| 19:04.23 | zenzelezz | or comprehend... so many options |
| 19:04.31 | alestane | Knowing TC-Work, that's quite probable. |
| 19:04.36 | TC-Work | ^ |
| 19:04.40 | TC-Work | it's care |
| 19:05.33 | TC-Work | My experiances are all with Trixbox personally. |
| 19:05.43 | TC-Work | experiences* |
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| 19:10.35 | mikma_ | http://youtu.be/ZM4-de57VZ0 |
| 19:15.38 | Unkle1 | Just watched a Dell on-site tech tear down and repai an ultrabook. - Never seen so many bleeding screws. |
| 19:16.11 | mikma_ | the screws were bleeding? :O |
| 19:16.28 | Unkle1 | call the Pope! |
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| 19:48.43 | Mr_Rabies | usually dell tends to be pretty good on screws, Unkle1 |
| 19:48.52 | Mr_Rabies | only maybe 50% more than are structurally needed |
| 19:49.07 | Mr_Rabies | unlike say, hp or sony, which i'm pretty sure do 300%+ of what's needed |
| 19:49.35 | Mr_Rabies | though i haven't disassembled their ultrabooks yet and there are definitely some exceptions at dell |
| 19:49.47 | TC-Work | or apple, which only adds extra to be a dick. |
| 19:50.25 | mikma_ | apple adds some glue, too |
| 19:50.29 | mikma_ | just to be extradick |
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| 19:52.57 | Fisker | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jS3ZxOtTD5A |
| 19:53.08 | Mr_Rabies | yeah, apple has replaced their screw addiction with a glue addiction lately |
| 19:53.44 | Mr_Rabies | glue takes up less space generally than a screw + post assembly that needs to be secured with thick enough plastic to not break with normal use |
| 19:53.56 | Mr_Rabies | so they do that so they can cheat and get smaller hardware |
| 19:54.07 | mikma_ | fisker: :D |
| 19:55.10 | Fisker | everytime someone has problems with their gaming pc |
| 19:55.12 | Fisker | err |
| 19:55.14 | Fisker | gaming laptop |
| 19:55.18 | Fisker | that is the video i'll show them |
| 19:55.24 | Fisker | because gaming laptops, lol |
| 19:56.02 | Mr_Rabies | but desktops are legacy hardware, just like everything apple tells us in their latest marketing spiel |
| 19:56.16 | Mr_Rabies | like optical drives, ethernet ports, and user repairability |
| 19:56.23 | Fisker | wasn't desktop legacy hardware when they introduced the ipad? |
| 19:56.44 | Mr_Rabies | yeah, bro, your desktop is old news |
| 19:56.48 | Mr_Rabies | can it do this? |
| 19:56.58 | Mr_Rabies | *tilts to the side, screen rotates* |
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| 19:59.10 | TC-Work | Yes, If I tilt my screen to the side it rotates, that's kinda the definition of rotate. |
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| 20:10.13 | kd3 | blah at none of the brick-and-mortar stores carrying the router I want. guess I'll have to put up with this until amazon delivers it tomorrow |
| 20:14.17 | kd3 | also, holy crap! cassidy talking about the leaky spacesuit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfw_5NDWWto |
| 20:17.22 | Mr_Rabies | most brick and mortar stores seem to only carry linksys, belkin, and netgear nowadays |
| 20:17.36 | Mr_Rabies | and they're almost all garbage |
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| 20:34.49 | End | I've had a lot of troubles with routers so I bought one of those booksize computers with dual ethernet ports and installed Linux on it |
| 20:35.14 | End | it was still like $250 though, so more than you would normally want to pay |
| 20:35.20 | ZorbaTHut | I did something similar, except with openbsd. Works like a charm. |
| 20:35.30 | ZorbaTHut | and nice to get things like full QoS and a super-controllable firewall |
| 20:35.32 | End | and I have to have a seperate access point for wireless, but that was one of the things that I had issues with |
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| 20:35.58 | End | I don't do any QoS, but the configurability is still nice |
| 20:36.48 | Mr_Rabies | that's such overkill O_o |
| 20:37.08 | ZorbaTHut | rabies, total overkill, but I'd rather have overkill than a constant source of frustration |
| 20:37.11 | End | I was having a lot of trouble with routers, even the "good" ones |
| 20:37.17 | ZorbaTHut | as an added bonus, my router now functions as a heated cat bed. :P |
| 20:37.18 | Mr_Rabies | i spent like $100 on my router back when 802.11n was still pretty new and haven't had a single problem |
| 20:37.34 | Mr_Rabies | now i could get the same result for like $50-60 |
| 20:37.49 | nevcairiel | i have a rather expensive router, but it also has my dsl modem in it, and good wifi, never had issues |
| 20:38.12 | nevcairiel | i used to run a old PC as router, but it got kinda annoying to maintain all the time |
| 20:38.31 | ZorbaTHut | note that my router is about seven years old now, so the options were a bit different when I built it |
| 20:38.40 | End | mine is about 4 years old I think |
| 20:38.45 | ZorbaTHut | at this point it survives at least partially through inertia |
| 20:38.47 | kd3 | is upgrading from a wrt54gl |
| 20:39.06 | Mr_Rabies | hell, i used a wrt54GL for years and only upgraded when n was solidified as a standard |
| 20:39.20 | Mr_Rabies | had no issues with it, either |
| 20:39.25 | kd3 | mine, up until this morning, was doing just fine |
| 20:39.39 | End | well, I wish I could have said the same about any of the routers I had previously |
| 20:39.46 | nevcairiel | the main reason i got this one was that my old dsl modem couldn't give me full speed on my new line, and the vdsl modem they put into this is really good, so the whole package just works =) |
| 20:39.51 | Mr_Rabies | what the heck were you buying |
| 20:40.12 | nevcairiel | i had a wrt54gl very long before that as well |
| 20:40.24 | nevcairiel | now it powers my parents wifi |
| 20:40.30 | End | I don't remember all of them, but some of them were very highly regarded |
| 20:40.43 | Mr_Rabies | that reminds me of the people that check in $200 computers at the repair shop then complain when it costs more to repair than it did initially, so they go out and buy a mac for $2000+ and are like "oh mah gosh this is so much better" |
| 20:40.56 | Mr_Rabies | not you directly but |
| 20:41.15 | Mr_Rabies | just the concept of using a pc for a router in today's world of really powerful SoC solutions |
| 20:41.28 | nevcairiel | yeah i wouldnt do that anymore today |
| 20:42.09 | nevcairiel | get a router that can run dd-wrt or OpenWrt and you basically get a *nix system you can do whatever with |
| 20:42.28 | End | the last one I tried was supposed to be really good for running dd-wrt |
| 20:42.32 | End | hard to brick they said |
| 20:42.36 | End | I bricked it :< |
| 20:42.42 | nevcairiel | might have been user failure |
| 20:42.47 | Mr_Rabies | the stock firmware on d-link routers is pretty strong and has a ton of features |
| 20:42.49 | End | probably! |
| 20:43.11 | End | but I found it was more easy than hard to brick |
| 20:43.19 | nevcairiel | i dont run custom firmware on mine either anymore, the AVM firmware has all the features i need really |
| 20:43.36 | Mr_Rabies | probably not as many as DD-WRT but that stuff's mostly useless for most people |
| 20:44.03 | Mr_Rabies | it's just open source circlejerkin' |
| 20:44.06 | nevcairiel | i wonder if they even sell the AVM routers in the US, probably not |
| 20:44.38 | Mr_Rabies | i take that back, i did have one issue with my router rebooting if i had some advanced DNS settings on for one firmware update, but they fixed it pretty much immediately |
| 20:45.01 | Mr_Rabies | and the workaround was turning off advanced dns features that i didn't even use really in the meantime |
| 20:45.12 | End | dunno, I'm on comcast, but centurylink is the local dsl provider, and apparently you can only use one of two dsl modems for the highest speed stuff around here |
| 20:45.37 | End | well, we're using centurylink here at work |
| 20:45.41 | End | comcast is what I have at home |
| 20:45.42 | nevcairiel | i guess US providers are just generally crappy with that kind of stuff |
| 20:45.52 | Mr_Rabies | oh yeah, dsl modems are a whole different ballgame |
| 20:46.02 | kd3 | s/with that kind of stuff// |
| 20:46.16 | nevcairiel | we basically just have ADSL2 or VDSL, no matter what DSL provider you use |
| 20:46.20 | nevcairiel | so any modem works really |
| 20:46.37 | nevcairiel | which is why some neat devices have emerged that combine router and modem |
| 20:46.40 | End | I really like to complain about comcast, but I find dealing with cable way better than dealing with DSL around here |
| 20:46.44 | Mr_Rabies | you have to use the ones made for your provider if you don't want to start flashing custom firmware onto hardware that may or may not support it |
| 20:47.13 | nevcairiel | some providers force you to use their own modem, but thats really just the weird ones |
| 20:47.44 | nevcairiel | and cable is still a bit rare |
| 20:48.06 | Mr_Rabies | can't get cable here |
| 20:48.19 | Mr_Rabies | 3Mbps DSL is as good as i can get :( |
| 20:48.20 | nevcairiel | neither can i, for some reason its not available, while i get the highest quality DSL |
| 20:48.26 | Mr_Rabies | thanks, isp monopolies |
| 20:48.40 | Mr_Rabies | that's megabit |
| 20:48.56 | kd3 | well, you've got double the speed I'm getting fleeced for |
| 20:49.01 | kd3 | 1.5/128 |
| 20:49.01 | nevcairiel | i used to have such a connection at my parents house |
| 20:49.03 | End | youch |
| 20:49.11 | Mr_Rabies | i'm paying about $50 a month for that |
| 20:49.15 | nevcairiel | part of my apartment choice was internet availability :P |
| 20:49.16 | Mr_Rabies | USD |
| 20:50.33 | nevcairiel | that is a ripoff, you should go complain somewhere |
| 20:51.19 | Mr_Rabies | where? there's nowhere to complain |
| 20:51.36 | nevcairiel | cancel out of protest! |
| 20:51.39 | Mr_Rabies | they'll simply tell me "pay us or we'll cut off your internet and phones" |
| 20:51.55 | Ressy | Thats how it is here too in rural areas. Choice is dialup, or cellular modem. |
| 20:51.59 | Mr_Rabies | there are no other ISP options |
| 20:52.05 | Mr_Rabies | cellular modem isn't a choice out here either |
| 20:52.08 | Mr_Rabies | no towers nearby |
| 20:52.19 | Ressy | My mom's bf had to put up a 30 foot tower on his property. |
| 20:52.24 | Mr_Rabies | i have to have a femtocell leaching off of my 3Mbps internet to even get a cell signal |
| 20:52.25 | Ressy | he gets about 2mbps with it. |
| 20:52.30 | nevcairiel | these days we're entitled by law to a broadband connection |
| 20:52.37 | Mr_Rabies | we're not |
| 20:52.39 | Mr_Rabies | at all |
| 20:52.43 | End | some cities have tried making municipal broadband access, and got shutdown in court because "the local cable/dsl companies wouldn't be able to compete" |
| 20:52.52 | End | (a few others have succeeded though) |
| 20:53.06 | Ressy | Those companies are really good at lining pockets to prevent those municipal projects. |
| 20:53.11 | End | yeah |
| 20:53.17 | Mr_Rabies | in fact, isps are allowed to have exclusivity agreements with aparment complexes, etc |
| 20:53.29 | Mr_Rabies | so their tenants can only use their isp |
| 20:53.31 | nevcairiel | that would be impossible here |
| 20:53.33 | End | it's mostly smaller cities where there have been any success doing it locally |
| 20:53.57 | nevcairiel | we still have civil liberty, not corporate law :P |
| 20:54.05 | Mr_Rabies | that would be nice |
| 20:54.21 | Ressy | That isn't allowed here.. Illegal, but they can install fiber in new buildings, and rent access out to other providers - issue is its usually cheaper to go with the fiber owners' packages than go with a major isp |
| 20:54.46 | nevcairiel | we have such companies as well, who install a fiber connection to apartment buildings |
| 20:54.52 | nevcairiel | thing is, they do offer really good deals, too |
| 20:54.57 | nevcairiel | but you are also not forced to use them |
| 20:54.58 | Mr_Rabies | corporate law is the default here on most stuff nowadays, it seems |
| 20:55.18 | Mr_Rabies | only solution is to move, really |
| 20:55.18 | nevcairiel | i actually wish i had such an option |
| 20:55.24 | nevcairiel | because its dirt cheap and even faster |
| 20:55.46 | Ressy | For example, Beanfield which installs its own fiber in buildings provides 50/50 for $45 a month, vs Rogers' only Fiber offering of 250/250 for 225.99 |
| 20:56.08 | Mr_Rabies | the other solutions get you killed or in jail so moving is about it |
| 20:56.22 | nevcairiel | 250/250 is a business thing, even i will admit that this is too much for a private person :p |
| 20:56.26 | Mr_Rabies | if you move they get to grope you on the way out one last time, so they get the last laugh |
| 20:56.51 | Ressy | I'm currently paying $56 after taxes for 35/3 |
| 20:56.59 | Mr_Rabies | sigh |
| 20:57.04 | Mr_Rabies | your upload is the same as my download |
| 20:57.10 | Mr_Rabies | and you're paying just a bit more |
| 20:57.15 | Unkle1 | Oh dear god - a vendor brought us cupcakes. |
| 20:57.15 | Ressy | Its only cuz I'm in the city. |
| 20:57.34 | nevcairiel | i pay like €50 for 50/10, i guess thats ~$70? but it also includes IPTV and various unlimited phone thingys |
| 20:57.48 | Mr_Rabies | :| |
| 20:57.55 | Mr_Rabies | i pay $109 for phones and internet |
| 20:58.05 | Mr_Rabies | for landline |
| 20:58.10 | nevcairiel | your price didnt even include the phone? |
| 20:58.13 | Mr_Rabies | cell is another $70 on top of that a month |
| 20:58.46 | Mr_Rabies | for 250 minutes a month and 3GB data, and 250 text messages (incoming and outgoing) |
| 20:59.00 | pompy | so for the latest humble bundle ..... "Please note: the games in this bundle are only available for Windows via Steam." |
| 20:59.03 | pompy | Top Contributors 1. @LinuxGamers love ports $613.00 |
| 20:59.41 | nevcairiel | man your prices are insane |
| 20:59.46 | Mr_Rabies | welcome to america |
| 21:00.05 | Ressy | $100 or so for Cable TV, $34 for cell (unlimited data, calling & texts in a wind zone), $56 for internet... |
| 21:00.07 | Mr_Rabies | where providers provide as little as possible and charge whatever they want because they have no competition |
| 21:00.42 | Mr_Rabies | also keep in mind that $70 for cell is in an area where i have no coverage and thus have to leech speed away from the dsl i'm overpaying for |
| 21:00.48 | End | apparently I get 50/10 now but it's probably $60-$70 of my cable bill |
| 21:00.56 | Mr_Rabies | i'm not even really that far into the boonies, to be honest |
| 21:01.11 | Mr_Rabies | i'm about 10 minutes from the longest highway in america |
| 21:01.27 | nevcairiel | highways go through all kind of wasteland |
| 21:01.29 | TC-Work | 10 from the 10? |
| 21:01.54 | Mr_Rabies | it's the boonies, sure, it takes me about 20 minutes to get to the closest grocery store |
| 21:02.03 | TC-Work | or is highway literal? |
| 21:02.19 | karl_w_w | I pay $55 for internet+home phone and $11 for my mobile phone |
| 21:03.01 | karl_w_w | on my mobile that gives me 1.5gb and more call and text credit than I'd use in probably a year |
| 21:03.10 | nevcairiel | also, $100 for cable tv? i could get the full pay-tv package for that kind of money, not that i want to, our tv sucks |
| 21:03.27 | bleeter | https://gs1.wac.edgecastcdn.net/8019B6/data.tumblr.com/96ab767e961ab4990e80127aac03f46e/tumblr_mpqopxMSTh1rwiv0vo1_400.gif |
| 21:03.28 | nevcairiel | i rather steal US tv |
| 21:03.29 | Ressy | major ripoff here in Canada for TV. |
| 21:03.54 | Mr_Rabies | hmm |
| 21:04.12 | Mr_Rabies | for some reason i was thinking US-278 was the longest highway in the US...apparently that's not true at all, lol |
| 21:04.22 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 21:04.40 | Unkle1 | I don't buy cable/subscription tv. I just use netflix. So I see things after they've been canceled or I buy episodes from iTunes, Amazon, or on blu-ray |
| 21:04.58 | Mr_Rabies | well |
| 21:05.03 | Mr_Rabies | problem with netflix is this: |
| 21:05.10 | End | if I didn't have a DVR I wouldn't use my cable tv |
| 21:05.17 | Mr_Rabies | content providers now simply see it as a place to dump content that they're not gonna sell on dvd/BD anymore anyway |
| 21:05.51 | Mr_Rabies | especially warner brothers |
| 21:06.04 | nevcairiel | i wish there were actual good ways to get tv content online, and in a timely fashion |
| 21:06.05 | End | they use it for more than that, but they definitely do use it for that |
| 21:06.08 | nevcairiel | and also for EUians |
| 21:06.10 | Unkle1 | I'm not sure that's an entirely accurate assesment. |
| 21:06.32 | End | there's been enough good shows/movies where it's been fine for me so far though |
| 21:06.37 | nevcairiel | since no-one wants my money to give me TV shows in HD and near their release time, i just steal them |
| 21:06.45 | Unkle1 | I did end up buying GoT and Justified because they never appear for streaming. |
| 21:07.04 | Mr_Rabies | almost entirely, Unkle1 |
| 21:07.16 | Mr_Rabies | if it is something they think they can sell, they'll only have like, the first season |
| 21:07.21 | Unkle1 | And I buy Dr. Who episodes because I get them the day after release. |
| 21:07.32 | Mr_Rabies | or, for example: batman brave and the bold stops midway through season 2 on a cliffhanger |
| 21:07.57 | Unkle1 | But that's more BBC being forward thinking. |
| 21:08.02 | Mr_Rabies | not to mention warner is bad at releasing stuff on BD |
| 21:08.25 | bleeter | I bought GoT on bluray because they're pretty bloody decent bluray productions, some actual effort went in to the design etc. |
| 21:08.33 | Mr_Rabies | there are several Warner shows available digitally in HD but not on BD at all |
| 21:08.43 | nevcairiel | bleeter: just dont buy the german version, its fucking censored |
| 21:08.46 | Mr_Rabies | JLU, Batman: Brave and the Bold, Young Justice, etc |
| 21:08.49 | nevcairiel | had to order a proper one from the UK |
| 21:08.59 | bleeter | nevcairiel: arse |
| 21:09.01 | Unkle1 | I just bought a blu-ray player last week, so I only own one thing for it yet. |
| 21:09.30 | Mr_Rabies | i only buy physical copies of things and don't buy dvds anymore |
| 21:09.35 | nevcairiel | wonder when the last season comes out on BD |
| 21:09.44 | Mr_Rabies | so i'm possibly the most outlier of outliers when it comes to consumers in some areas |
| 21:10.04 | nevcairiel | i havent bought DVDs for years now |
| 21:10.12 | nevcairiel | got quite the BD collection now, though |
| 21:10.27 | Mr_Rabies | i don't believe in digital purchases unless they're so cheap that i won't miss it much when they inevitably tell me i can't use the content i purchased anymore |
| 21:10.47 | nevcairiel | yeah buying movies is always stupid with their DRM protection |
| 21:11.10 | Mr_Rabies | i don't buy games on steam for more than $30, but i just bought a genesis game for that this month without a second thought |
| 21:11.36 | Mr_Rabies | i'd rather pay $30 for castlevania bloodlines than $35 for the skyrim GOTY during the steam sale |
| 21:11.41 | nevcairiel | wat, amazon says GoT S3 won't be out on BD until february |
| 21:11.44 | nevcairiel | damn that |
| 21:13.06 | Unkle1 | Heh, a $30 investment in digital media for a show I like isn't too bad. I consider the hours I've spent watching and re-watching Dr. Who and GoT and it's pennies on the hour. But TV packages come with lots of cost to support programming I don't want (most sports, for example) and the price is too high to get the one or three shows I want. |
| 21:13.56 | Mr_Rabies | well, the big problem is DRM |
| 21:14.18 | nevcairiel | for rewatching great shows i just get them on Blu-ray |
| 21:14.18 | Mr_Rabies | i can only watch the digitally produced stuff on whatever they allow me to |
| 21:14.35 | Unkle1 | Like I want GoT, but pretty much nothing else from HBO. And to get it, I'd be spending about $120/month. Easier/cheaper to just buy the discs or digital media. |
| 21:14.36 | nevcairiel | or if the show is too old, maybe even DVD |
| 21:14.47 | Mr_Rabies | sorta true for BDs too, to an extent, but at least i own the BD so i can rip them if i want |
| 21:15.07 | nevcairiel | they cant make your BD stop working at least |
| 21:15.29 | nevcairiel | and yeah, i usually rip all my BDs anyway, way too lazy to get up and find the right box when i feel like watching something |
| 21:15.42 | Mr_Rabies | ripping DRM off of itunes/etc seems to be considerably harder |
| 21:15.54 | Mr_Rabies | and they work their asses off to delist anyone mentioning it from google results it seems |
| 21:15.59 | nevcairiel | rather pay $100 for a new harddrive once in a while then get up from the couch once to get a box |
| 21:16.24 | bleeter | the bollocks with tv/movies has nothing on audiobooks |
| 21:16.26 | nevcairiel | Mr_Rabies: easier to just go grab the pre-ripped variants |
| 21:16.44 | Mr_Rabies | yeah, but likely to end up getting cut off from your ISP/subpoenaed |
| 21:16.46 | nevcairiel | bleeter: i gave up fighting the audiobook empires and just pay an audible subscription |
| 21:16.53 | Arrowmaster | kd3: for routers, if you want Tomato firmware Asus RT-N66U, if you want OpenWRT then TP-Link TL-WDR4300 |
| 21:16.56 | bleeter | nevcairiel: yup |
| 21:17.16 | nevcairiel | i think i have collected 5 coins or so again, i've been slacking on listening |
| 21:17.32 | End | I think kd3 was getting something asus |
| 21:17.42 | Mr_Rabies | even if you own the physical copy there's always a chance of getting a copyright strike from the content provider to you via the isp and/or a subpoena |
| 21:17.47 | bleeter | nevcairiel: totally annoying thing is I'd be more than happy to pay extra for physical media, but it's next to impossible to buy anywhere aye |
| 21:18.16 | nevcairiel | some bookstores here have some audio books on CD, or well, they used to long ago, not sure anyone still sells CDs now :p |
| 21:19.36 | bleeter | iirc last I looked, only seemed to be stuff for which CD rights were still assigned to Some Company and everyone was waiting around for said rights to expire so as to put it on Audible (ie, haven't been re-issues of stuff for years) |
| 21:19.45 | Mr_Rabies | the only audiobook i own is I am America (And So Can You) by Stephen Colbert |
| 21:20.28 | Unkle1 | if you like audio books, Librivox.org is pretty awesome. |
| 21:20.38 | bleeter | totally recommends any Peter Kenny readings of Iain Banks' works |
| 21:20.38 | bleeter | (or, Iain M Banks) |
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| 21:20.53 | Arrowmaster | ah yes he said he was looking at the Asus RT-AC66U which replaced the Asus RT-N66U, dont know what the status is for Tomato based firmware on it though but i know neither runs OpenWRT, and i dont keep track of DD-WRT support |
| 21:21.05 | Mr_Rabies | isn't tomato totally dead now |
| 21:21.09 | Mr_Rabies | for like, years? |
| 21:21.26 | Arrowmaster | official kinda is but there are others based on it |
| 21:21.39 | Arrowmaster | see the wikipedia page for a list |
| 21:22.03 | Arrowmaster | official tomato is still the best for wrt54gl's though imho |
| 21:22.08 | TC-Work | Arrowmaster: RT-AC66U is the same as the N66U but has 802.11ac |
| 21:22.41 | Mr_Rabies | i put DD-WRT on my old WRT54GL last week, probably gonna give to my parents to get them wifi at their office |
| 21:22.46 | Arrowmaster | new chip means new drivers for the firmware to add |
| 21:23.11 | Mr_Rabies | i'd never give them 802.11g if i didn't have it lying around |
| 21:23.18 | Arrowmaster | i found dd-wrt really unstable on my 54gl years ago so i switched to tomato and never looked back |
| 21:23.20 | nevcairiel | i always used dd-wrt on my wrt54gl, cant say i used most of its features or missed anything :p |
| 21:23.27 | Mr_Rabies | they'd get n at the least |
| 21:23.28 | nevcairiel | but it was stable |
| 21:23.38 | Mr_Rabies | yeah, i don't much like it, but tomato's way too old at this point |
| 21:23.53 | Mr_Rabies | i know the router's old too but eh |
| 21:24.07 | Arrowmaster | about all i miss on it is ipv6 but i could use a tomato based firmware for that |
| 21:24.21 | bleeter | nevcairiel: recommended audio book for one of your coins Iain M Banks "Use Of Weapons". Bit of a glorious brainfuck ;) |
| 21:24.39 | bleeter | I like all the crying at the openwrt team about how it barely works on the 54gl's any more |
| 21:24.51 | Arrowmaster | only audio book i have is samuel l jackson reading "go the fuck to sleep" |
| 21:24.53 | bleeter | 'but you named the project for the wrt54gl!!1!!1!' |
| 21:25.19 | Mr_Rabies | nevcairiel: check this out for an idea of the US's awesome ISP offerings |
| 21:25.24 | Mr_Rabies | http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/ATT-Launches-New-Home-LTE-Service-125166 |
| 21:25.38 | nevcairiel | bleeter: apparently german audible doesnt have that, not even in the english books section, oh well |
| 21:26.10 | Arrowmaster | openwrt needs to have a good gui after flashing without any tweaking |
| 21:26.12 | nevcairiel | Mr_Rabies: the LTE services are rather expensive around here as well, though |
| 21:26.26 | nevcairiel | Arrowmaster: last i tried OpenWrt, the GUI wasn't that bad |
| 21:26.31 | Mr_Rabies | still, look at that pricing |
| 21:26.55 | Mr_Rabies | that's for home LTE, $120 a month for 30 GB usage |
| 21:27.00 | nevcairiel | here its only being offered in places where the only other option is dial-up really |
| 21:27.15 | bleeter | nevcairiel: bloody hell! do they have any Iain M Banks? |
| 21:27.39 | nevcairiel | bleeter: yes |
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| 21:28.12 | Semlar | i assume it's not possible for an addon to automatically use noggenfogger |
| 21:28.37 | Semlar | what's the closest i can get to automating that |
| 21:28.55 | Mr_Rabies | put it on all your spell macros and fill your inventory with them! |
| 21:29.00 | Mr_Rabies | efficient! |
| 21:29.11 | Semlar | i like the way you think |
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| 21:29.41 | Semlar | could it be blocked from using it if you already have the buff? |
| 21:29.49 | nevcairiel | dont think so |
| 21:30.11 | Semlar | out of combat couldn't it rewrite the macro? |
| 21:31.23 | Semlar | my friend wants an addon that keeps the mini buff up as often as possible |
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| 21:51.44 | fewyn | so anyone know how this amazon prime library lending stuff works? i'm trying to browse what books are available for free but i can't figure a listing |
| 21:53.15 | TC-Work | fewyn: there is a help section |
| 21:53.16 | TC-Work | http://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html/ref=lp_mem_help?ie=UTF8&nodeId=200757120 |
| 21:53.23 | Mr_Rabies | i think you have to have a kindle, don't you? (do you?) |
| 21:53.39 | TC-Work | "Note: Books that are borrowed from the Kindle Owners' Lending Library can be read only on Kindle devices." |
| 21:53.42 | Mr_Rabies | http://www.amazon.com/gp/feature.html/?docId=1000739811 |
| 21:53.45 | Mr_Rabies | seems like it, yeah |
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| 21:56.40 | TC-Work | As much as I love electronics I prefer to read a real book |
| 21:56.56 | zenzelezz | yup |
| 21:57.40 | Mr_Rabies | i'm that way with comics, but i think it'd probably do better with a dedicated device like a kindle |
| 21:58.04 | Mr_Rabies | i don't really read novels anymore and i'm thinking i might with a kindle |
| 21:58.19 | bleeter | TC-Work: I'd prefer to read 'real' books too. Can I have your hands for a transplant please? |
| 21:58.23 | TC-Work | Comics I don't care for, but I would go with a tablet because of the new spiffy display thing it does not. |
| 21:58.46 | TC-Work | s/not/now/ |
| 21:59.10 | TC-Work | bleeter: Get your own. |
| 21:59.17 | Mr_Rabies | i wish color e-ink was a thing yet |
| 21:59.40 | Unkle1 | TC-Work: I prefer reading a real book too, but I also like the ability to fire up my tablet at 1am and buy a book and start reading right away. |
| 21:59.50 | AcidWeb | Kindle is great for manga :-) |
| 21:59.54 | Unkle1 | All without having gotten out of bed. |
| 22:00.02 | TC-Work | Unkle1: That's why I have bookshelfs. |
| 22:00.12 | TC-Work | And I thought I was lazy. |
| 22:00.15 | Unkle1 | TC-Work: Me too. |
| 22:00.32 | TC-Work | Also, I don't like to read in bed. But I seem to be a minority. |
| 22:00.37 | Unkle1 | I'm just saying... best of both worlds. And I still go to libraries. |
| 22:00.43 | Mr_Rabies | <TC-Work> Comics I don't care for, but I would go with a tablet because of the new spiffy display thing it does not. |
| 22:00.53 | Mr_Rabies | if you're referring to panel display that say, comixology does, i don't much care for it |
| 22:01.06 | TC-Work | I am |
| 22:01.11 | Mr_Rabies | it's a neat idea but it doesn't align with how i read comics at all |
| 22:01.16 | TC-Work | You can still read it like normal |
| 22:01.27 | Mr_Rabies | yeah, i turn it off, personally |
| 22:01.29 | TC-Work | I prefer it because there is limited screen space on a device. |
| 22:01.44 | Mr_Rabies | i'd want a device with a screen large enough to display a page without any scrolling |
| 22:01.52 | Mr_Rabies | or scaling |
| 22:02.18 | TC-Work | Right, but they are only on phones/tablets so it makes sense. |
| 22:05.20 | TC-Work | heh http://www.engadget.com/2013/07/30/australians-urged-to-lawfully-evade-unfair-prices/ |
| 22:07.08 | Mr_Rabies | you'd need a 13 inch display for a comic to not be scaled down, if i did the math properly (i probably didn't) |
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| 22:07.57 | bleeter | TC-Work: technically, we've only been urged to do it when everything else (including legislative changes) fails |
| 22:09.35 | TC-Work | bleeter: which seems to be often enough to warrant this kind of stuff. |
| 22:11.53 | bleeter | TC-Work: I'd rather a legislative change that made region locks illegal, thus permitting parallel imports. we have this for physical products, should be no different for digital |
| 22:12.28 | bleeter | eg, the national Nescafe distributor can't stop my corner store from buying their Nescafe from Thailand |
| 22:12.57 | bleeter | and by stop, I mean financially punish in some way (jack up prices of other stock, refuse to supply, etc.) |
| 22:18.13 | TC-Work | I dunno, There is something apealing about giving a great big F.U. to the rest of the world. Although I suspect that would not turn out so well. |
| 22:19.26 | Unkle1 | Dear World; F.U. - Love, new Zeland |
| 22:20.22 | xyphoid_ | in NZ parallel importing is currently legal, but that's going to be sacrificed on the altar of free trade |
| 22:20.54 | xyphoid_ | we expect to lose that and gain software patents in return for being able to sell milk to america \m/ |
| 22:21.13 | Unkle1 | Like we need to import milk. |
| 22:21.46 | ajmitch | xyphoid_: we gain so much more than that in NZ |
| 22:22.06 | ajmitch | like shiny new GCSB laws |
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| 22:29.46 | bleeter | ajmitch: who needs new GCSB laws when you have Parliamentary Services? |
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| 22:33.58 | ajmitch | true |
| 23:04.36 | bleeter | https://i.minus.com/iAW1fAxchWnGx.gif |
| 23:04.41 | karl_w_w | http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/spain-train-driver-on-phone-during-crash/story-e6frg6so-1226688509996 what a fuckwit |
| 23:06.35 | karl_w_w | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JH0cV8FcfV4 bleeter :P |
| 23:06.51 | karl_w_w | ^not even slightly fake |
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| 23:37.23 | pompy | http://foxnewsinsider.com/2013/07/30/chunk-sun-headed-toward-earth-2-million-miles-hour hmmm |
| 23:49.03 | karl_w_w | anything that uses the word yikes so readily loses my interest just as freely |
| 23:52.05 | zenzelezz | yikes, that's harsh |
| 23:55.30 | bleeter | yikes that's an overreaction, zenzelezz |
| 23:59.51 | zenzelezz | :( |
