| 00:11.31 | Xandr | Arrowmaster? |
| 00:11.40 | Arrowmaster | ? |
| 00:11.40 | Xandr | Do you still need a KSP trading card? |
| 00:11.46 | Arrowmaster | not anymore |
| 00:12.29 | Xandr | I just got that one for buying The Walking Dead |
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| 00:17.17 | Sapu | Anybody happen to know a way to detect items with used charges? As far as I can tell it's not possible without posting it to the AH and checking for the UI error (or something similar). Wondering if I'm missing something though, seems silly. |
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| 00:20.59 | Semlar | parsing the tooltip |
| 00:23.34 | Sapu | Unfortunately that doesn't help without knowing the max charges. Could make a hard-coded database for that, but that kind of defeats the purpose. |
| 00:23.55 | Semlar | you didn't mention the purpose |
| 00:24.16 | Sapu | The purpose is not try and post them. |
| 00:24.21 | Sapu | to not* |
| 00:24.47 | Semlar | what kind of items are you talking about |
| 00:25.05 | Sapu | Paper Zepplin Kit for example |
| 00:25.17 | Sapu | Zeppelin* |
| 00:26.30 | Sapu | According to http://www.wowpedia.org/ItemString#Unique_Ids the uniqueID contains the max charges...but haven't found any info on how to parse that out. |
| 00:29.48 | Semlar | that seems to indicate that the number doesn't hold any information itself |
| 00:30.05 | Semlar | it's just a unique reference to that particular item |
| 00:31.32 | Sapu | Well, the description is sort of vague. First line is "UniqueId contains information on the maker of a crafted item, number of charges or uses if applicable..." but then it goes on to say the unique id doesn't hold any info... |
| 00:32.03 | kd3 | all of that info is likely stored server-side and the uniqueid is a key to some serverside table |
| 00:32.04 | Sapu | And then goes on to say that the uniqueID contains partial random enchant info... |
| 00:33.07 | Sapu | So guess the answer to my original question is no then... |
| 00:34.12 | Semlar | only that nobody who read it knows other than to parse the tooltip and compare it to known max charges |
| 00:34.24 | Semlar | how many items even have charges that you can sell on the auction house |
| 00:36.15 | Semlar | you don't actually need to parse the tooltip to get the charges either |
| 00:36.29 | Semlar | GetItemCount appears to return the current number of charges |
| 00:37.15 | Sapu | right, GetItemCount will fail for more than one item though |
| 00:37.43 | Sapu | Trying to find a wowhead filter for charges... |
| 00:37.43 | fewyn | http://www.latimes.com/news/world/worldnow/la-fg-wn-pope-social-media-purgatory-20130717,0,6608748.story |
| 00:38.09 | fewyn | i don't believe one exists |
| 00:39.02 | Semlar | what's the end goal here for your addon |
| 00:39.21 | Semlar | that you need to know whether an item has fewer than its max charges |
| 00:39.42 | Sapu | Whether or not the item can be posted on the AH. |
| 00:39.48 | Sapu | My addon is TradeSkillMaster btw. |
| 00:41.02 | Semlar | you could create a database inside your addon based on the highest observed number of charges for a given item |
| 00:41.23 | Semlar | actually |
| 00:41.27 | Semlar | hang on |
| 00:41.48 | Sapu | Can't find a wowhead filter for items with charges |
| 00:41.49 | Semlar | what if you constructed a tooltip just using the item id |
| 00:42.00 | Semlar | not the entire hyperlink for that exact item |
| 00:42.23 | Semlar | it might have the full number of charges for that item |
| 00:42.29 | Sapu | Didn't think of that, but the tooltip doesn't show the charge line at all unless it's linked to an item in your bags. |
| 00:42.36 | Semlar | feh |
| 00:42.52 | Sapu | or bank or gbank probably, but yea |
| 00:44.50 | Semlar | interesting it's not in the hyperlink data at all |
| 00:45.21 | Semlar | if you copy it from the item even using its "unique id" it doesn't list the charges |
| 00:45.30 | Sapu | mhm, fwiw the uniqueid doesn't change when you use a charge |
| 00:46.32 | Esamynn|work | no surprise there |
| 00:46.34 | Semlar | on the other hand |
| 00:46.42 | Semlar | GameTooltip:SetItemByID(34498) listed the charges |
| 00:47.07 | Semlar | so maybe you can pull the max charges out of that |
| 00:47.11 | Esamynn|work | ahh consistency! ;) |
| 00:47.18 | Semlar | yeah.. |
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| 00:47.39 | Sapu | oh nice |
| 00:48.00 | Sapu | that's the tooltip that shows when you put the item on your action bars actually... |
| 00:48.13 | Sapu | that'll work though |
| 00:48.42 | Sapu | let me implement real quick and check |
| 00:50.54 | Semlar | it works in theory and that's good enough for me |
| 00:51.13 | Semlar | PROBLEM SOLVED FOREVER |
| 00:51.37 | TC-Work | ~lart Semlar |
| 00:51.37 | purl | brandishes Excalibur! "With this sword, I vanquish thee, Semlar!" and lops off Semlar's head |
| 00:51.49 | Semlar | wasn't using it |
| 00:51.55 | TC-Work | No kidding |
| 00:53.27 | TC-Work | Hmmm...did not realize you could craft badges repeatedly. |
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| 00:59.19 | Sapu | It works :D |
| 00:59.22 | Sapu | Good work! |
| 00:59.25 | Semlar | hooray! |
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| 01:11.21 | Sapu | Fully implemented and still working. Thanks Semlar that was fun :D |
| 01:12.45 | Semlar | we need more api functions |
| 01:13.41 | Sapu | Definitely. |
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| 01:15.27 | Sapu | Getting off here for now...I should setup my HexChat for Freenode (use Quakenet mainly) so I don't have to use webchat :P |
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| 02:12.07 | Arrowmaster | where the fuck are my cards steam, i just made a purchase and didnt get any cards |
| 02:12.22 | TC-Work | Took ~30 min to 1 hour to get mine |
| 02:12.55 | Arrowmaster | ah so its lagging now |
| 02:13.15 | TC-Work | Yea, I suspect this is the first time the systems has been stressed |
| 02:13.23 | TC-Work | system* |
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| 02:39.52 | Kane_Hart | Does anyone know a UI Addon just adds the ilvl colum and not an entire suite of features for the AH |
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| 03:25.06 | Kraps | TC-Work: why THIS time |
| 03:25.19 | TC-Work | Kraps: Context please. |
| 03:25.27 | Kraps | also i hate this card crap |
| 03:25.37 | Dashkal | is happily ignoring the card crap |
| 03:25.38 | Kraps | [10:13]TC-WorkYea, I suspect this is the first time the systems has been stressed |
| 03:25.39 | Kraps | [10:13]TC-Worksystem* |
| 03:26.04 | Kraps | Dashkal: thats what i'm trying to do |
| 03:26.05 | TC-Work | Kraps: because cards were coming out for playing the game, not for purchases |
| 03:26.22 | TC-Work | so now not only do they have more people playing, but all of the purchases on top of that |
| 03:26.29 | Dashkal | I'm outright ignoring it. The cards I got will rot there |
| 03:26.31 | Kraps | ah |
| 03:27.05 | TC-Work | Dashkal: At least put them up on the market. even if you get ~.10/per, thats money that goes to more games. |
| 03:28.56 | Dashkal | Nope. I'm basically in protest of the gimmick |
| 03:29.12 | Dashkal | If I do this, it's marked as "not interested" when they do their metrics after the fact |
| 03:29.49 | TC-Work | You are protesting something that has no affect on you? Interesting. |
| 03:29.58 | Dashkal | I want to buy and play games |
| 03:30.14 | Dashkal | And it only has zero effect on me, because I choose not to interact with it |
| 03:30.46 | Dashkal | This conversation right now is the first I've even recognized it's existence |
| 03:30.57 | TC-Work | You didn't say you are ignoring it, you said you were protesting it. A distinct difference. |
| 03:31.35 | Dashkal | Negative. The ignoring of it is the vehicle for my protest |
| 03:31.39 | TC-Work | But I'm just quibbling, so ignore me. |
| 03:37.44 | Arrowmaster | when it gave me my cards for my purchase earlier it gave me 2 of the same card...... |
| 03:39.45 | TC-Work | I think they are random within the set., |
| 03:39.50 | TC-Work | s/,// |
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| 06:54.17 | Cairenn | http://www.wimp.com/dogleaves/ |
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| 07:17.20 | Maldivia | morning |
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| 07:21.22 | Thunder_Child | That it is |
| 07:21.27 | Kaylin | So I asked a cute girl out for coffee, and she said yes and we're going to a cafe at a waterfront park and it's such a pretty spot. |
| 07:21.49 | Kaylin | except, I forgot to out myself to her, so this might become extremely awkward. :X |
| 07:23.07 | Thunder_Child | Might. Never know till you try. |
| 07:24.50 | Kaylin | I did, I sent her a nice midnight email so now I can stress about it all night |
| 07:24.53 | Kaylin | it's going to be great |
| 07:25.08 | Maldivia | it is going to be great, yeah |
| 07:25.35 | Thunder_Child | Sounds like par for the course. |
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| 12:29.07 | Hazal | Hey does anyone know the bagid or whatever it's called for the default banks backpack? |
| 12:30.44 | nevcairiel | http://www.wowpedia.org/BagId |
| 12:30.55 | nevcairiel | took 10 seconds of googling, you should try it sometime :) |
| 12:31.20 | Kalroth | nevcairiel: you're a slow googler |
| 12:31.53 | nevcairiel | on laptop without a mouse |
| 12:31.58 | nevcairiel | touchpad ftl |
| 12:32.43 | Hazal | Thanks for the effort mate. I should've googled it. Silly me |
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| 14:38.30 | Parnic | is there a way to get the player's Enchanting skill level without them having to have the skill window open? |
| 14:38.32 | Lopeppeppy | has a new house! With extra holes in! |
| 14:43.54 | Maldivia | Parnic: is the player in a guild? |
| 14:44.02 | Parnic | not necessarily |
| 14:44.13 | Maldivia | and yes there is |
| 14:44.27 | nevcairiel | open the window for them |
| 14:44.27 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 14:44.33 | Parnic | heh |
| 14:44.36 | Maldivia | no need - the professions tab shows it |
| 14:45.08 | Maldivia | GetProfessionInfo |
| 14:46.11 | Parnic | thanks Maldivia. looks like i'll need to do some gymnastics to figure out if it's Enchanting or not since the name is localized, but that should be doable |
| 14:46.29 | Parnic | oh wait, "skillLine" returns an int for the skill number. sweet. |
| 14:46.48 | Maldivia | yep |
| 14:46.56 | Maldivia | enchanting is 333 |
| 14:47.02 | Parnic | much appreciated. |
| 14:48.34 | Shirik | PayPal, the online money transfer company, has accidentally credited a man in Delaware a whopping USD 92,233,720,368,547,800, making him by far the richest man in the world. |
| 14:49.00 | nevcairiel | as if normal banks dont manage to do such things occasionally =P |
| 14:49.02 | Maldivia | Parnic: so, something like: local prof1, prof2 = GetProfessions(); if prof1 then DoSomethingToCheckIfEnchanting(GetProfessionInfo(prof1)); end |
| 14:49.15 | Maldivia | same with prof2 :) |
| 14:49.41 | Parnic | i see you're a semi-colon kinda guy, Maldivia :P |
| 14:49.59 | Maldivia | Java is my day-job, so yeah :) |
| 14:50.42 | Maldivia | Parnic: and when making several statements on the same line, it makes it easier to read |
| 14:50.58 | Shirik | also |
| 14:51.00 | Parnic | understood, just giving a hard time. c++ is my day job so i do it too |
| 14:51.03 | Shirik | semicolons are good for the world |
| 14:51.11 | Kalroth | ;;;;;;;;; |
| 14:51.13 | nevcairiel | nonsense |
| 14:51.16 | Shirik | also, there are Lua statements that can't be written without semicolons |
| 14:51.22 | Shirik | there is nothing that can't be written without |
| 14:51.37 | nevcairiel | you really have to think hard to come up with something that needs it though |
| 14:51.39 | Kalroth | can you write a semicolon without using a semicolon? |
| 14:51.43 | nevcairiel | and write odd looking code |
| 14:55.21 | Maldivia | lua> print"\59" |
| 14:55.49 | Maldivia | baah - but that's writing a semicolor without using a semicolon :P |
| 14:56.14 | nevcairiel | the bot has been AWOL lately |
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| 14:59.43 | Maldivia | and as for with or without semicolon: ' s = string.lower ("Hello"):len() ' vs ' s = string.lower; ("Hello"):len(); ' |
| 15:01.14 | nevcairiel | since the second makes no sense, i'm falling back on my odd code point |
| 15:01.52 | Maldivia | ok, then lets add a print method to string forst then, and call ("Hello"):print() |
| 15:01.56 | nevcairiel | even the first is odd code mixing the string namespace and the string metatable |
| 15:02.06 | bluspacecow | Shirik |
| 15:02.19 | Shirik | bluspacecow |
| 15:02.22 | bluspacecow | hi2u |
| 15:02.27 | Shirik | hi2u2 |
| 15:03.36 | Shirik | anyone here ipv6 enabled? I would like to check that 2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe96:4b47 is working |
| 15:05.09 | Maldivia | nevcairiel: ok ok, 's = string.lower("Hello"):gsub(".", print)' vs 's = string.lower("Hello"):gsub(".", print)' -- first one sets s = "hello" and prints h,e,l,l,o, where as the latter sets s = string.lower and prints H,e,l,l,o |
| 15:05.43 | Maldivia | ups - add semicolon after lower in latte r:) |
| 15:15.50 | Maldivia | http://www.engadget.com/2013/07/18/samsung-enterprise-ssd-NVMe-XS1715/ -- me wants one... |
| 15:15.59 | nevcairiel | thats still rather odd code. :) |
| 15:16.23 | Maldivia | nevcairiel: what code isn't odd? |
| 15:16.51 | nevcairiel | you can easily make it required if you write stuff like print"too" |
| 15:18.28 | nevcairiel | and my phone doesn't like me typing foo |
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| 15:23.36 | Maldivia | at least it didn't correct to poo :) |
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| 15:31.28 | nevcairiel | only iPhone defaults to profanity. or so all these funny images of auto correct want me to believe. |
| 15:40.47 | bluspacecow | interesting |
| 15:41.07 | bluspacecow | Blizzard_ShopUI has been renamed to Blizzard_StoreUI in build 179205 of the 5.4 PTR |
| 15:41.21 | bluspacecow | <PROTECTED> |
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| 16:04.32 | Fisker | why is that interesting bluspacecow ? |
| 16:04.45 | bluspacecow | idunnolol |
| 16:05.08 | Fisker | sata express Maldivia |
| 16:05.09 | Fisker | pls |
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| 16:31.50 | Shirik | LEE'S SUMMIT, MO - The mother of a baby who died yesterday accidentally left her infant son alone in her SUV all day, police said Friday. |
| 16:31.54 | Shirik | how, seriously? |
| 16:35.06 | Lopeppeppy | Shirik - ever made a really dumb mistake when you were sleep deprived? |
| 16:35.45 | Shirik | I've never made a mistake |
| 16:36.21 | Lopeppeppy | I agree up front that it's vile and wrong and just icky... but this happens sometimes to brain dead parents. It's not their turn to drop Jr. off at day care, so they forget he's in the car, and.... Yeah. I hate reading those stories. |
| 16:36.31 | Lopeppeppy | chops Shirik's ego off at the knees. |
| 16:36.53 | Shirik | :( |
| 16:37.47 | Lopeppeppy | The stories make me so mad for such a futile waste of life!!!! ...and yet there but for the grace of $deity go all of us every day, to not make some deadly mistake. |
| 16:43.59 | Shirik | http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=VS7GcO6AsqE |
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| 16:44.13 | Shirik | some foul language |
| 16:44.14 | Shirik | warning |
| 16:53.01 | batrick | that happens every year in vegas |
| 16:55.12 | batrick | only statement that is ambiguous without a semicolon is: foo(bar)\n(baz)(bay) |
| 16:55.23 | batrick | AFAIK |
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| 16:56.34 | batrick | (where the statement on the next line begins with a parenthesis, which allows the interpretation of the continuation of a function call of the previous line or the beginning of a new functioncall/assignment) |
| 16:57.00 | batrick | and 5.2 no longer considers it ambiguous (no error) |
| 16:57.06 | batrick | which reminds me |
| 16:57.18 | batrick | is WoW still 5.1? |
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| 17:05.43 | bluspacecow | …. |
| 17:06.02 | bluspacecow | i thought wow was on version 5.3 build 17128 |
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| 17:31.23 | Stanzilla | so bad, bluspacecow |
| 17:31.31 | bluspacecow | oh ? |
| 17:32.20 | kd3 | ~ping |
| 17:32.20 | purl | ~pong |
| 17:32.25 | Stanzilla | he was talking about lua :p |
| 17:32.26 | kd3 | huzzah |
| 17:33.30 | bluspacecow | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:33.31 | bluspacecow | soz |
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| 18:03.06 | Arrow|phone | I about had an outburst in the middle of this office |
| 18:03.21 | Torhal | o.O |
| 18:03.46 | zenzelezz | how come? |
| 18:04.39 | Arrow|phone | Reading manga and got "next time, the final chapter" followed by "you have reached the end of the chapters you have downloaded" |
| 18:05.16 | Torhal | Need moar download. |
| 18:06.06 | Arrow|phone | So I tethered my phone and I'm downloading the final chapter |
| 18:06.06 | kd3 | >.> "Steam detected at Fukushima nuclear plant. Valve suspected [Interesting]" |
| 18:06.09 | kd3 | http://news.yahoo.com/tepco-sees-steam-no-crisis-nuclear-plant-040917207.html |
| 18:09.00 | Arrow|phone | OK back to actual work. My final chapter has to wait |
| 18:11.30 | Maldivia | kd3: must be overheating because of the summer getaway :P |
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| 18:27.50 | Fisker | hey kd3 |
| 18:35.29 | pompy1 | http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-3132_7-57594265-98/samsung-unveils-1tb-840-evo-solid-state-drive/ |
| 18:37.27 | Fisker | also old |
| 18:45.20 | pompy1 | your face! |
| 18:46.00 | cogwheel | your FACE is your face! |
| 18:47.03 | pompy1 | ^ |
| 18:48.19 | Maldivia | pompy1: go for http://www.engadget.com/2013/07/18/samsung-enterprise-ssd-NVMe-XS1715/ instead ? :) |
| 18:50.15 | Fisker | sata express |
| 18:50.19 | Fisker | get that instead |
| 18:50.59 | Maldivia | santa express :) |
| 18:53.40 | Fisker | nope |
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| 18:58.38 | zenzelezz | why so old Fisker |
| 18:58.57 | Fisker | because time zenzelezz |
| 18:59.16 | zenzelezz | oh k |
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| 19:58.05 | Parnic | fisker i want an i3 haswell. why won't intel sell me one yet? |
| 19:58.17 | Fisker | because i3 is shit Parnic |
| 19:58.27 | Parnic | but i want a low-power server |
| 19:58.40 | Parnic | to do not-a-lot |
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| 20:10.10 | Fisker | oh ok Parnic |
| 20:10.13 | Fisker | i got 99 problems |
| 20:10.16 | Fisker | but a switch aint one |
| 20:10.49 | Fisker | http://www.anandtech.com/show/7007/intels-haswell-an-htpc-perspective/2 |
| 20:10.50 | Fisker | get that btw |
| 20:10.52 | Fisker | :D |
| 20:28.20 | kd3 | ah, what the hell. gmail's changed again |
| 20:29.06 | Dagmar | So has Google Maps |
| 20:29.13 | Dagmar | Everything is now 20% shinier |
| 20:31.09 | kd3 | oh, whoops. emails away |
| 20:32.43 | End | whoops you didn't bcc it |
| 20:32.50 | Funkeh` | kd3 showing his ability to email again |
| 20:32.55 | Funkeh` | didnt attach it either |
| 20:32.59 | End | steals everyone's emails |
| 20:35.03 | kd3 | emails away (non-failing-at-gmail version) |
| 20:42.13 | Fisker | i don't hate you kd3 |
| 20:42.17 | Fisker | hey Funkeh` |
| 20:42.31 | Funkeh` | hi Fisker |
| 20:42.53 | Fisker | do i not hate you Funkeh` ? |
| 20:43.20 | Funkeh` | yes |
| 20:53.26 | Stanzilla | but Funkeh` hates me |
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| 20:54.26 | Funkeh` | I hate everyone that I don't hate |
| 20:56.27 | Mr_Rabies | lolll that budget is insane for an htpc fisker |
| 20:56.29 | Mr_Rabies | what the heck |
| 20:57.23 | Mr_Rabies | an i7 is total overkill, even if you watch 1080p 10-bit h264 video |
| 20:58.03 | Mr_Rabies | if you're not doing 10-bit color there are tons of SoC solutions for 1080p for under $100 total |
| 20:59.41 | nevcairiel | and you're screwed once a new codec appears |
| 21:00.25 | Mr_Rabies | it's true, but |
| 21:00.38 | Mr_Rabies | you did only spend $100 or less |
| 21:01.41 | Mr_Rabies | i really hope the next gen consoles have decent media players in them |
| 21:01.51 | nevcairiel | If you want to be cheap just buy one of those stupid set-top-boxes, htpcs are for people that want something more :p |
| 21:01.57 | Mr_Rabies | there's really no excuse, they've got plenty of hardware to handle just about anything |
| 21:02.31 | Mr_Rabies | even the 360/ps3 could handle 10-bit 1080p no problem |
| 21:04.06 | nevcairiel | you might think so, but decoding of such streams is not that cheap, but of course i don't know the actual speed of their cpus off-hand |
| 21:04.39 | Mr_Rabies | and now with the return to x86 architecture it'll hopefully be easier to port media player software over |
| 21:06.42 | Mr_Rabies | the 360 is a tri-core 3.2GHz PPC, the ps3 is a 3.2GHz Cell processor |
| 21:07.28 | nevcairiel | you do realize that we've been at the same GHz values for quite a couple years now, and yet stuff gets faster? :) |
| 21:07.56 | Mr_Rabies | at the very least, 8 bit color would be effortless for those two |
| 21:07.59 | nevcairiel | just saying, its not a good metric anymore |
| 21:08.03 | Fisker | a |
| 21:08.04 | Mr_Rabies | yeah, no, it's not, at all |
| 21:08.12 | Fisker | 10-bit 4k pls |
| 21:08.26 | nevcairiel | obviously the PS3 can decode 8-bit, it got a Blu-ray player afterall :p |
| 21:08.46 | Mr_Rabies | the 360 can as well, but it's gotta be in the format that it likes |
| 21:09.09 | Mr_Rabies | generally mp4 container with as few bells and whistles as possible to ensure compatibility |
| 21:09.19 | Mr_Rabies | no subtitles, chapters, etc |
| 21:09.46 | nevcairiel | this is why there are plenty tools to simply stream a compliant stream to the box |
| 21:10.08 | Mr_Rabies | yeah, but it's never quite right |
| 21:10.19 | nevcairiel | then your tool sucks |
| 21:10.19 | Mr_Rabies | the transcoding always seems to hurt image fidelity |
| 21:10.51 | Mr_Rabies | i use universal media server, it still looks good but you can tell it's not quite the same as native playback |
| 21:10.57 | kd3 | makes a mental note to find some more alcohol when he gets home |
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| 21:11.49 | Mr_Rabies | the wdtv playing natively from samba share looks noticably better than the transcoded version on a ps3/360 |
| 21:12.33 | Mr_Rabies | but it probably wouldn't be very noticable on smaller screens, i'm kind of an outlier with my projector :p |
| 21:14.23 | nevcairiel | as long as the codec is right you can usually just transmux instead of transcode, no quality loss, just a suitable packaging for the display device |
| 21:15.51 | Mr_Rabies | i wish the anime fansubbers wouldn't have jumped on the 10-bit train so fast |
| 21:16.53 | Mr_Rabies | now there's groups re-encoding things in 10-bit that save literally kilobytes on a 20GB+ show because it's old animation mastered to film that doesn't benefit as much from h264 as the newer stuff mastered digitally |
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| 21:28.57 | Gnarfoz | isn't 10 bit more about reducing banding than saving space? |
| 21:29.47 | Mr_Rabies | well, you can reduce banding without 10-bit, but it takes up considerably more space |
| 21:30.05 | Mr_Rabies | to do so, gotta pump dat bitrate etc |
| 21:36.14 | Gnarfoz | you mean by dithering? |
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| 21:45.04 | nevcairiel | for quality reasons 10-bit only makes sense if your original is 10-bit |
| 21:45.11 | nevcairiel | anime really only uses it for space reasons |
| 21:45.37 | nevcairiel | but of course space and quality are always related |
| 21:46.11 | nevcairiel | but the primary motivation for them is that its going to be smaller |
| 21:46.14 | kd3 | holy shit: http://www.wfmz.com/news/Regional-Poconos-Coal/accident-closes-schuylkill-co-intersection-some-trapped-by-wires/-/149546/21033136/-/hgnb1jz/-/index.html |
| 21:49.31 | TC-Work | It's amazing, if not for one, two letter word, I would have no idea where that was. That site is really not informative. |
| 21:50.07 | TC-Work | also, lol at channel 69 because I am a child/ |
| 21:54.57 | pompy1 | http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/computer_chess_2013/ |
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| 22:09.53 | Adys | kd3: you messed up again |
| 22:09.55 | Adys | the ccs/bccs |
| 22:10.08 | TC-Work | Welcome to a while ago Adys |
| 22:10.15 | TC-Work | he sent another one right after |
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| 22:28.33 | Xandr | hm, it would be really helpful if steam showed the small platform logos on the main sales pages as well. kinda annoying to have to click everything to check if there's a mac version now or not. |
| 22:35.09 | Arrowmaster | the linux icons arent even that accurate |
| 22:50.21 | TC-Work | There are many upgrades Steam could/should do to it's site and doesn't. |
| 22:50.45 | TC-Work | its* |
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| 23:00.29 | pompy1 | :O Fisker http://www.teamfortress.com/post.php?id=11105 |
| 23:01.15 | fewyn | whoa |
| 23:01.17 | fewyn | really? |
| 23:02.22 | pompy1 | indeed, but at first i thought that was related to the trading card drops..but still |
| 23:02.46 | TC-Work | The fact that it did not start this way is kinda garbage. |
| 23:03.08 | fewyn | that's a big change |
| 23:03.16 | fewyn | not that i've played TF2 recently |
| 23:03.25 | fewyn | but i used to idle to get my weekly drops early in the week |
| 23:03.42 | fewyn | so incase i didn't have time to play enough over the weekend i'd still get my drops |
| 23:06.14 | Mr_Rabies | i think it's just something they hadn't really considered a problem until it was an epidemic, TC-Work |
| 23:06.37 | Mr_Rabies | so the tech came with the trading card system to make sure people aren't just idling |
| 23:06.40 | TC-Work | Mr_Rabies: I dunno, when it first came out that's exactly what I thought of. Not sure how they missed it. |
| 23:07.09 | Mr_Rabies | i'm sure they considered it, but didn't consider the steam market at the time since it didn't exist, as well as how common it was gonna be |
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| 23:14.25 | Arrowmaster | when it first came out thats exactly what people did |
| 23:14.30 | Arrowmaster | idle servers everywhere |
| 23:20.27 | Arrowmaster | wtf valve, why is the renamed WarZ a daily deal |
| 23:23.35 | fewyn | because of the movie |
| 23:23.37 | fewyn | World War Z |
| 23:23.50 | fewyn | and this is the only way it'll ever sell |
| 23:23.58 | fewyn | i don't think you could pay me to buy it |
| 23:24.29 | TC-Work | Sure someone could |
| 23:24.37 | Arrowmaster | i know why it was renamed, i mean why is it even available for sale on steam again and even featured as a daily deal |
| 23:26.49 | Kesava | just a word of advice, don't use elastic to tie together wires at the back of your very-hot computer |
| 23:27.04 | Kesava | now i have to clean up a bunch of melted elastic. |
| 23:27.57 | TC-Work | Why bother? Wasn't the tie doing the same thing as the melted plastic is doing now? |
| 23:28.32 | Kesava | nope, completely liquidised |
| 23:29.11 | Arrowmaster | yeah elastic turns liquidy and is a fucking mess |
| 23:32.45 | Stanzilla | hey Kesava |
| 23:33.13 | Stanzilla | from what I remember you had to remove some tuning from your nameplates because it interfered with 3rd party addons. is there an on/off switch for that or did you really remove it? |
| 23:35.24 | Kesava | oh, yeah, i can't :Hide() the default frames, i have to find some way to make them invisible instead which makes framerates marginally lower |
| 23:35.32 | Kesava | and no i've completely removed it |
| 23:35.50 | Kesava | wouldn't be too easy to make a custom.lua to do it though if you're interested |
| 23:35.58 | Kesava | s/easy/difficult |
| 23:36.27 | Stanzilla | well I don't use any third party nameplate mods so I thought why not |
| 23:39.03 | Kesava | definitely could be an option but i don't know |
| 23:39.19 | Kesava | seems like i'd get people telling me it doesn't work with hhtd, and having that on |
| 23:40.26 | Stanzilla | yeah people are stupid. even if the option would be named "breake hhtd" they would complain |
| 23:41.16 | Stanzilla | *was |
| 23:47.03 | cogwheel | someone needs to write a parody rickroll for irc: "Never Gonna Give You Op" |
| 23:51.46 | Mr_Rabies | ~whalenuke cogwheel |
| 23:51.47 | purl | ACTION dons her radiation cloak and tinted glasses while a highly intelligent whale named Ray precipitates critical mass for uncontrolled nuclear fission around cogwheel with his mind powers. |
| 23:52.04 | cogwheel | ~whaleshield |
| 23:52.04 | purl | ACTION summons a rather dense leaden whale named Billy Bob to shield cogwheel from the blast. |
| 23:52.20 | Mr_Rabies | <Arrowmaster> i know why it was renamed, i mean why is it even available for sale on steam again and even featured as a daily deal |
| 23:52.58 | Mr_Rabies | because it's in valve's best interest to not play favorites, the game was taken down from the store when the description was misleading, and brought back up when they fixed it |
| 23:53.12 | Mr_Rabies | yeah, it's a crap game, but that doesn't mean it shouldn't be allowed on steam |
| 23:53.31 | Arrowmaster | valve should remove the option for metacritic scores to be hidden |
| 23:54.10 | Kesava | it's in their interest to sell bad games, you know |
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| 23:54.58 | Kesava | much as i agree |
| 23:57.15 | Kesava | Stanzilla: I don't have anyone parked to see if this actually has any effect on FPS right now but here you go: http://pastebin.com/LLVkK8WH |
| 23:57.22 | Kesava | also it might break things |
| 23:57.48 | Kesava | obviously |
| 23:57.59 | Stanzilla | I like breaking things |
| 23:58.11 | Stanzilla | and thanks, will test |