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| 00:47.18 | Arrowmaster | if they are doing a summer sale it has to start soon |
| 00:53.06 | Fisker | hey Arrowmaster |
| 00:53.12 | Fisker | it will start in a week |
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| 01:14.21 | Fisker | hey Funkeh` |
| 01:17.54 | |Ackis| | I just redeemed like 50 golden keys for shift! zomg |
| 01:18.11 | Fisker | why don't you like my impressive messsage |Ackis| ? |
| 01:18.19 | Fisker | with only 2 s's instead of 1 |
| 01:18.20 | Fisker | or 3 |
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| 01:18.31 | Ackis | dafuq? |
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| 01:22.16 | Fisker | :) |
| 01:22.38 | Ackis | squee |
| 01:22.50 | Ackis | I forgot that I purchased Mirc like 10 years ago |
| 01:22.52 | Ackis | key still works |
| 01:23.26 | Ressy | lol |
| 01:24.01 | Ackis | I guess it was in 08 |
| 01:24.10 | Ackis | I bought winrar in 04 and that still works |
| 01:25.35 | Fisker | why would you do that? |
| 01:25.36 | Fisker | WHY? |
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| 02:14.10 | kd3 | heh, that's random. shotgun blasts that hit the ground launch blue sparks everywhere... |
| 02:14.14 | kd3 | https://github.com/ValveSoftware/Source-1-Games/issues/1025 |
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| 02:47.45 | Ackis | anyone here play TCG's or collect sports cards and have a program that they like to use to keep an inventory? |
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| 03:07.39 | kd3 | a foot of hail = winter wonderland for the 4th of july: http://www.weather.com/news/two-feet-hail-new-mexico-town-20130704 |
| 03:07.39 | kd3 | wtf |
| 03:20.36 | Dagmar | Holy shit |
| 03:22.33 | Cairenn | http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/07/04/19289813-mexicos-popocatepetl-volcano-grounds-us-flights?lite |
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| 06:26.39 | nevcairiel | americans, seriously? https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BOWC-HKCcAAxZlX.jpg:large |
| 06:33.57 | Cairenn | lol |
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| 06:51.25 | nebula169 | nevcairiel: why u hating on our nation's bday? |
| 06:51.47 | nevcairiel | i'm hating on your nations inhabitants stupidity |
| 06:51.51 | nebula169 | lol |
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| 07:51.53 | Adys | Fisker: ping |
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| 09:52.23 | Adys | someone discussed how to disable DBM version check warning here a few days ago |
| 09:52.26 | Adys | what was the way? |
| 09:53.07 | karl_w_w | its in the options somewhere :P |
| 09:53.37 | karl_w_w | how are there so many people who can't keep dbm up to date |
| 09:57.38 | VIad | why not add autoupdate? :( |
| 10:00.12 | VIad | expand the toc to contain url and a shared key and each update it checks with the url, authenticates using the key and some hash of all the files involved in the toc, then if the server responds properly, then the game downloads and extracts the new zip and replaces the current files - containing new toc with new key for next update and such :) |
| 10:28.20 | nevcairiel | why would blizzard care to do that? |
| 10:28.34 | nevcairiel | also, it opens them up to a whole load of problems |
| 10:31.02 | karl_w_w | I hate stupid people |
| 10:31.16 | karl_w_w | well no I don't, I feel pity for them |
| 10:31.30 | karl_w_w | what I hate is being inconvenienced by them |
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| 14:13.39 | mikma | http://imgur.com/gallery/zfwn6Yp |
| 14:15.11 | mikma | wobin: http://imgur.com/gallery/CbKax6p |
| 14:16.15 | mitch0 | mikma: :) |
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| 14:48.11 | nevcairiel | hah, nice |
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| 15:13.50 | Adys | Cairenn: http://i.imgur.com/zJgRQrk.jpg |
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| 15:29.20 | karl_w_w | do 25 megaera, get 3x the same trinket and 3x the same plate tank belt |
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| 15:54.21 | Fisker | hey Adys |
| 15:54.32 | Adys | WHAT DO YOU WANT. |
| 15:54.51 | Adys | Also hello |
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| 16:01.41 | TC-Work_ | ~calm Adys |
| 16:01.41 | purl | ACTION sooths Adys, offers a backrub, tea, a jacuzzi and anything else that might help calm Adys down. |
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| 16:19.18 | Fisker | you wanted me Adys |
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| 16:19.27 | Adys | i always want you |
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| 16:19.36 | Fisker | do you snipe domains? |
| 16:39.04 | Lopeppeppy | FROZEN MAGRARITA! Why is this not at work? |
| 16:44.48 | TC-Work_ | Lopeppeppy: because then leaving work would not be an improvement. |
| 16:45.17 | Lopeppeppy | Going home will be a total improvement - I'm the only person in today, it's like a freakin' morgue. Except a lot hotter. |
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| 16:50.26 | karl_w_w | a workplace without other people there? sounds like paradise |
| 16:50.43 | Lopeppeppy | I'm getting stuff done I haven't gotten to in the last 2 weeks, that's for sure. |
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| 17:00.32 | Moloriloe | hi I can't find any reliable documentation regarding 5.2 pvp queue panels |
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| 17:01.27 | Neffi | Moloriloe: What documentation do you want? |
| 17:01.49 | Moloriloe | all the functions list, to queue and seclect a specific bg into an addon |
| 17:02.27 | Neffi | What the fuck |
| 17:02.32 | Moloriloe | like JoinBattlefield is useless now, the name of the frames etc |
| 17:02.45 | Neffi | All my agility-leather BoAs are mysteriously gone, and the game master claims there's no record of me having purchased them |
| 17:03.02 | Neffi | I leveled 2 characters with them, and I still have the matching daggers that I bought at the same time |
| 17:03.17 | Neffi | Recommended course of action here? |
| 17:04.29 | Maldivia | buy them again... ? |
| 17:04.50 | Neffi | I kinda wanted to avoid grinding out that much honor/JP again |
| 17:05.09 | Neffi | And I already did it once, dammit |
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| 17:11.11 | Neffi | Moloriloe: http://www.wowpedia.org/Viewing_Blizzard%27s_interface_code |
| 17:11.37 | Neffi | FrameXML is the default UI code. You can see how things work in the default UI, and use it as a scripting reference |
| 17:12.17 | Neffi | http://wow.go-hero.net/framexml/16992 for online viewing |
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| 17:14.11 | ccox | Cairenn: http://www.sfgate.com/entertainment/dayinpictures/slideshow/Day-in-Pictures-July-3-2013-65737.php |
| 17:15.39 | Moloriloe | hmm thanks but I'm not sure I can do anything with it |
| 17:17.30 | Neffi_ | You can view the default queue panels and see how they perform their actions |
| 17:18.04 | Semlar | neffi did you mail your boas to another character, forget about them for two months and let them delete themselves |
| 17:18.07 | Moloriloe | yeah but that's a super complicated, I'm only average in addon making |
| 17:18.19 | Neffi_ | Semlar: It's a possibility. |
| 17:18.28 | Semlar | i think i've lost half my boas that way |
| 17:18.48 | Neffi_ | I just dont know why my daggers are where they've always been (main rogue's bank) and the rest aren't. Last alt I made with plans to use the BoAs was a rogue. |
| 17:18.55 | Semlar | either that or they just mysteriously vanish |
| 17:19.38 | Neffi_ | Even still, their existence should be on record |
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| 17:21.16 | Neffi_ | Moloriloe: It's not so hard. That's how the majority of documentation is created. |
| 17:21.34 | VIad | Moloriloe: average is not a bad thing |
| 17:22.14 | Semlar | documentation is a crutch |
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| 17:23.49 | Neffi_ | If you're new to coding, reading through the FrameXML can be daunting, but take it one step at a time and it's quite easy |
| 17:24.26 | Neffi_ | "Okay this button's OnClick is this function, which must call the queue function at some point.." With a decent editor it's pretty easy to trace these things. |
| 17:24.34 | Neffi_ | If you're using Notepad, then don't use Notepad |
| 17:24.53 | Neffi_ | IMO use Notepad++ |
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| 17:31.24 | Caleb| | any of you know if GetRaidRosterInfo's name return value contains server name? |
| 17:32.46 | Semlar | yes |
| 17:33.04 | Caleb| | thx |
| 17:33.17 | Semlar | according to this http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?p=277086#post277086 |
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| 17:36.52 | VIad | is it me or is it kind of lazy changing all name strings to contain the realm? :( |
| 17:41.29 | VIad | Semlar: hey |
| 17:41.33 | Semlar | sup |
| 17:41.49 | VIad | slight headache :( |
| 17:42.03 | VIad | sometimes I wake up feeling a bit cold and I get a headache for the rest of the day |
| 17:42.14 | VIad | no clue why being cold gives me headaches so easily... |
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| 17:46.04 | Semlar | probably just a brain tumor |
| 17:46.09 | VIad | it makes me sad that I dont know the name of my condition and no one else that I ask say they got it too :< |
| 17:46.49 | TC-Work_ | See a doctor like a normal person? |
| 17:47.24 | Semlar | those symptoms are way too vague to make a diagnosis |
| 17:47.31 | VIad | sigh, it's summer, like last time when I got bloodtest, the temp will probably forget to tell me any results and loose the data or something :/ |
| 17:47.49 | Fisker | slaps Lopeppeppy around a bit with a large trout |
| 17:48.11 | Lopeppeppy | afternoon, dear. |
| 17:48.12 | TC-Work | Lopeppeppy: order in a vat of ice cream then. |
| 17:48.40 | Lopeppeppy | TC, I'm having ice cream and shrimp fried rice for dinner, actually. |
| 17:49.00 | TC-Work | at the same time? |
| 17:49.13 | Semlar | probably just allergies vlad |
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| 17:51.43 | Lopeppeppy | Maybe, TC, but not on the same spoon. No double-dipping. |
| 17:51.45 | Fisker | i need murderade |
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| 17:52.41 | TC-Work | Lopeppeppy: wasabi/green tea? or are we talking double chocolate brownie fudge of doom ice cream? |
| 17:52.59 | kd3 | ooh, the latter sounds good |
| 17:53.00 | Lopeppeppy | Dude. Mint chocolate klondike bars. |
| 17:53.16 | Neffi | wut |
| 17:53.33 | Neffi | that sounds pretty awesome |
| 17:53.34 | Maldivia | ice cream... me wants ice cream... |
| 17:53.36 | Maldivia | arghh |
| 17:59.07 | Neffi | Hmm. Wasn't there a time when War Stomp didn't DR with primary stuns? |
| 17:59.30 | Stanzilla | yes |
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| 18:07.22 | Neffi | At level 90, what's the shapeshiftID for bear form? |
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| 18:09.11 | kd3 | http://www.wowpedia.org/Macro_conditionals#form.2C_stance |
| 18:19.22 | VIad | Neffi: wasn't there a time when DR didn't work on mobs? |
| 18:19.34 | VIad | wasn't there a time when DR only worked for specific CC spells in PVP only |
| 18:19.38 | VIad | oh those were the days |
| 18:19.52 | VIad | was also a time when different CC didn't share the same DR :P |
| 18:22.34 | Neffi | Was also a time when every class had a different PvP trinket for different effects |
| 18:22.46 | VIad | those were the days |
| 18:22.46 | Neffi | Confusing why they thought that was good design |
| 18:22.54 | nebula169 | cc doesn't dr in pve, stuns do, though |
| 18:23.04 | Neffi | Cyclone does too |
| 18:23.12 | VIad | no clue why they made DR affect PVE |
| 18:23.12 | Neffi | Not sure about others though |
| 18:23.37 | Neffi | Once upon a time people used to complain a LOT about the disconnect between CCing capabilities of DPS classes |
| 18:23.55 | Neffi | People bitched a LOT that their class brought equal DPS but wasn't chosen because their CC was subpar |
| 18:24.20 | Neffi | Remember the days when managing CC was one of the greatest challenges in PvE? That's probably why |
| 18:24.40 | VIad | actually I dont mind DR to your own spells |
| 18:24.56 | VIad | like in PVP you can't restun all the time, your stun lasts shorter |
| 18:25.05 | VIad | but I dislike that they share DR across others :/ |
| 18:25.20 | VIad | "hey I'll use my Bash!" and it's a 0.1 sec stun and 1 min CD |
| 18:25.29 | VIad | it's like, meh... |
| 18:25.47 | VIad | and this is when I pved :P |
| 18:26.13 | Neffi | Managing that amongst your team is part of the challenge |
| 18:26.46 | VIad | not sure when this suddenly became important in pve, sometimes in cata? |
| 18:27.06 | VIad | until then no one had any problems or felt they were OP because their stun lasted longer :P mobs mobs are immune to stuns anyway, the mobs that matter |
| 18:27.30 | Neffi | There were times |
| 18:27.50 | Neffi | I remember parts of vanilla when large-scale raids still weren't commonplace (or at least not something most people did) |
| 18:28.07 | Neffi | You could and had to CC back then |
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| 18:30.31 | End | I remember sometimes having to use curse of recklessness and another curse to control fear |
| 18:30.37 | End | usually seduce was good enough though |
| 18:31.22 | End | (that was tbc though) |
| 18:31.25 | VIad | not sure why they removed this and added more DR - not sure what it fixed :P |
| 18:32.31 | VIad | I guess the old philosophy was that in the 40 man raid you were supposed to have all classes and they had their roles |
| 18:33.47 | Neffi | "another curse to control fear" I almost forgot about having to do that |
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| 18:36.58 | End | when they made it not work, I think they said it was "too hardcore", but I think that was when wotlk launched and CC was a lot less important |
| 18:37.42 | Neffi | "Too Hardcore" sounds like a teenager's band name |
| 18:37.49 | End | hah |
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| 18:50.46 | VIad | each time I read chanserv I think of 4chan |
| 18:52.03 | Neffi | Each time I read 4chan I think of gouging my eyes out |
| 18:52.55 | VIad | each time I read gouging my eyes out I think of what my dates tell me |
| 18:53.46 | VIad | I prefer making jokes on my own accord than making fun of others to make people lol :P |
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| 19:30.04 | Neffi | http://arstechnica.com/science/2013/07/optical-transistor-switches-states-by-trapping-a-single-photon/ <- interesting |
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| 20:47.02 | pompy | Ackis: http://nerdreactor.com/2013/07/05/watch-dogs-app-will-have-a-canadian-atm-spew-out-cash/ |
| 20:47.06 | pompy | Cairenn: ^ |
| 20:47.33 | Cairenn | right |
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| 21:24.53 | Gnarfoz | is there an easy way to get the achievements unique to one of my toons? |
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| 21:29.19 | kd3|hate`net | there's an interface option "Show only my achievements" |
| 21:29.20 | kd3|hate`net | use that? |
| 21:29.27 | kd3 | ooh, popup storm rolling in |
| 21:35.22 | zenzelezz | "Today in geek history: Newton advanced physics and calculus with the Principia in 1687. Critics found it derivative." |
| 21:40.38 | Neffi | >_> |
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| 21:50.24 | Gnarfoz | kd3: no, not that |
| 21:50.38 | Gnarfoz | (that one is for other players who inspect you) |
| 21:51.50 | Gnarfoz | anyway, I found one option, although it explains only 10 of the 35 point difference between guild UI (which only shows character achievements) and my achievement UI (which shows account wide) |
| 21:52.41 | Gnarfoz | (the option is: set the Blizzard achievement UI filter to "incomplete" and go through all categories. Achievements that show up and are "bright" or "golden" are completed on another character. and helpfully, they show up at the top of the list, so they're not hard to find) |
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| 23:05.54 | zenzelezz | Friday night in MMOs... enter a new zone, first thing I see in chat... "my dick is so big and hard, i can punch a hole through space and time" |
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| 23:08.35 | TC-Work | zenzelezz: One of the few times an MMO and a bar have conversations in common. |
| 23:09.50 | Neffi | Well.. |
| 23:10.02 | Neffi | Maybe deja vu is just that same dude smacking you with his member |
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| 23:12.25 | zenzelezz | Neffi: you had a deja vu from reading that sentence? |
| 23:12.55 | Neffi | clever |
| 23:13.52 | zenzelezz | not really; my sentence never said anything about deja vu |
| 23:14.29 | Neffi | >> |
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| 23:40.26 | bleeter | Cairenn: http://i.imgur.com/RdCcObq.gif |
| 23:40.39 | Cairenn | hah |
