| 00:05.27 | Trela | Holy shit that site is awesome. |
| 00:31.35 | VIad | too tired to figure out site |
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| 00:55.37 | TC-work | Should you be doing "if args.__contains__("-h") or args.__contains__("--help"):" or "if args in ("-h", "--help"):"? |
| 00:56.01 | TC-work | it's not very clear on the use case of __contains__ |
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| 00:56.11 | TC-work | in python |
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| 01:19.58 | Semlar | TC-work: i would use "in" |
| 01:20.13 | Semlar | i don't know why would call __contains__ directly |
| 01:20.36 | TC-work | Someone had that in their script and the docs didn't give much info so I was curious |
| 01:21.43 | Semlar | are they defining what it does? |
| 01:21.56 | TC-work | args = sys.argv[1:] |
| 01:22.15 | TC-work | it's in the help def, that's about all I can see. |
| 01:22.39 | TC-work | there is no class |
| 01:24.01 | Semlar | basically what you would use __contains__ for is if you wanted to define what "in" did in your class |
| 01:24.27 | TC-work | but by default it does the exact same as in? |
| 01:24.36 | TC-work | or someone had to set that up |
| 01:24.41 | Semlar | in calls the __contains__ method |
| 01:24.46 | TC-work | ah |
| 01:25.50 | Stanzilla | http://www.twitch.tv/treckie/ method trying garrosh |
| 01:25.55 | Stanzilla | great exploiting happening |
| 01:26.09 | Semlar | if you created an object and defined a __contains__ method for it you could call "in" on an instance of that object and it would invoke your function |
| 01:29.50 | Semlar | http://docs.python.org/2/reference/expressions.html#membership-test-details this kind of explains how it works |
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| 02:52.17 | Neffi | ellow uidev |
| 02:59.19 | Neffi | Gonna start working w/ oUF tonight to build a layout and some plugins, along with a complete reference documentation to replace the existing one. |
| 02:59.31 | Neffi | Any recommendations for which layouts I should download and begin toying with? |
| 02:59.51 | Seerah | I us Freeb and Freebgrid |
| 03:00.11 | Neffi | I'm looking for something that leverages most or all of the API and design of oUF without having too many frills to dig through and understand |
| 03:00.35 | Seerah | shrugs :) |
| 03:01.30 | Neffi | Freeb looks basic enough. Any other recommendations appreciated. Building a complete doc without ever having used oUF is gonna be a lot of work |
| 03:02.03 | Seerah | haste's layouts should be good to start with, too, iirc |
| 03:02.15 | Neffi | Aye, that makes sense |
| 03:15.34 | Neffi | Guy buys a top-of-the-line Intel CPU. Complaint: "T-Shirt I received was an XL.... needed a L" |
| 03:15.39 | Neffi | Why did I laugh so much? |
| 03:59.37 | TC-Away | because you are a bastard Neffi |
| 03:59.51 | Neffi | =( |
| 04:00.14 | Thunder_Child | Still though, too large is better than too small |
| 04:01.40 | Thunder_Child | I suspect the reason you were laughing was because the guy just bought a ~$350 CPU, THE FUCK IS BITCHING ABOUT A $5 SHIRT FOR. |
| 04:01.48 | Thunder_Child | THE FUCK IS HE* |
| 04:04.19 | Trela | <Intel> Sorry, we assume you were a fatty in your mom's basement. *Shrugs* |
| 04:05.13 | Fisker | hey Thunder_Child |
| 04:05.38 | Thunder_Child | Fisker |
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| 04:46.00 | Neffi | http://i.imgur.com/FirDB.jpg |
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| 04:56.06 | Fisker | cool story Neffi |
| 04:56.09 | Fisker | when do you turn 16? |
| 04:56.36 | Neffi | almost 7 years ago |
| 05:01.10 | Fisker | did you get the hores then? |
| 05:01.36 | Neffi | sadly no |
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| 06:23.17 | Ackis | I'm watching the first episode of the Dr Who with Matt Smith, does he grow on you like David Tennant? |
| 06:24.42 | pnorman | yes |
| 06:31.56 | karl_w_w | No, david tennant doesnt grow on you, you love him from the outset |
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| 06:53.32 | Maldivia | Ackis: geronimo... |
| 06:54.00 | Ackis | ? |
| 06:54.13 | Maldivia | re Matt Smith |
| 06:54.22 | Maldivia | that's his first line |
| 06:54.41 | Maldivia | (and luckily, only spoken once or twice after that) |
| 07:24.24 | Semlar | Ackis: he'll grow on you |
| 07:24.34 | Semlar | right now you're just suffering from the shock of losing david tennant |
| 07:25.03 | Ackis | I cried when he died :( |
| 07:25.13 | Semlar | you have a long road of recovery ahead of you |
| 07:29.31 | Maldivia | that was probably also one of the saddest farewell montages :) |
| 07:31.20 | Maldivia | (although was fun seeing Jack hitting on Alonso - even if he was still mourning Ianto) |
| 07:31.27 | Ackis | haha yeah |
| 07:31.42 | Ackis | when he said I don't wanna go or I don't wanna die it broked me |
| 07:32.48 | karl_w_w | stupid battle.net sites keep forgetting my login |
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| 07:38.36 | Maldivia | but ofcourse, the human doctor presumably still lives on (looking like David Tennant) in the alternative timeline, together with Rose |
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| 08:00.55 | Ackis | hmm I can't find season 6 anywhere as well as a few christmas specials for season 5/6/7 |
| 08:02.33 | bluspacecow | for ? |
| 08:02.38 | bluspacecow | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:02.43 | Ackis | dr who |
| 08:03.16 | bluspacecow | if you were in the waikato I would fully just send you some on a thumb drive |
| 08:03.33 | Ackis | where in australia is that? |
| 08:03.34 | bluspacecow | youtube's good too |
| 08:03.42 | bluspacecow | ~smackackis |
| 08:04.09 | Ackis | ~smackis |
| 08:04.10 | purl | ACTION smacks Ackis. |
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| 08:08.42 | raffy_ | is this a place to ask wow api questions? |
| 08:09.04 | Kalroth | indeed |
| 08:09.25 | raffy_ | is there a clean way to get unbuffed stats? like my unbuffed ap, etc.. |
| 08:09.37 | raffy_ | like say my addon is reloaded in combat |
| 08:10.51 | Kalroth | !api unitstat |
| 08:10.57 | Kalroth | hrmf |
| 08:11.08 | raffy_ | ya that func just returns buffed/current stats |
| 08:11.16 | Kalroth | it returns base too |
| 08:11.33 | Kalroth | but it's only for the main stats |
| 08:11.44 | raffy_ | it says it does, but it doesn't |
| 08:12.41 | raffy_ | it just returns {X, X, X+basestat} where base stat is stat from race, and X = stat from gear/buffs |
| 08:13.01 | Kalroth | what is it that you're looking for then? |
| 08:13.28 | raffy_ | no, im looking for a way to just get my total gear agility |
| 08:13.31 | raffy_ | for example |
| 08:13.35 | Semlar | you could run through every item that's equipped |
| 08:13.47 | Semlar | try and pull its stats from the tooltip or something |
| 08:13.58 | Semlar | and add it to the base |
| 08:14.00 | raffy_ | yeah seems like its going to be a lot of work |
| 08:14.07 | Semlar | why do you need it |
| 08:14.33 | raffy_ | ive got a damage number that i want to calculate relative to my base gear |
| 08:14.39 | Semlar | okay |
| 08:14.43 | raffy_ | so i want to compute it for "unbuffed" and then compute it for buffed, and get a ratio |
| 08:14.44 | Semlar | that's what i figured |
| 08:14.50 | haste | Neffi: feel free to ask questions, might not be too responsive after tomorrow however :D |
| 08:16.30 | raffy_ | looks like getting stats from an item sucks too |
| 08:17.06 | raffy_ | or is there a way to get item+gem+enchant+socketbonuses sums |
| 08:28.37 | Maldivia | local agi = 0; for i = 1, 20 do local link = GetInventoryItemLink("player", i); local stats = GetItemStats(link); agi = agi + (stats["ITEM_MOD_STAMINA_SHORT"] or 0); end |
| 08:28.47 | Maldivia | shouldn't something like that work? |
| 08:28.51 | Semlar | it won't return accurate values for upgraded items |
| 08:28.56 | Maldivia | ups, AGILITY, not STAMINA :) |
| 08:29.34 | Semlar | does that get you the gems and socket bonuses and everything |
| 08:30.08 | Maldivia | don't know :) |
| 08:30.16 | Maldivia | but a starting point :) |
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| 09:18.25 | bluspacecow | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/9308901404 |
| 09:18.27 | bluspacecow | lol |
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| 09:58.06 | Neffi | Fell asleep w/ this open on my screen: http://i.imgur.com/VuVlJ.gif |
| 09:58.10 | Neffi | no memory of it |
| 09:58.35 | Fisker | you shouldn't be a hater bluspacecow |
| 09:58.48 | bluspacecow | haet |
| 09:58.53 | bluspacecow | haet haet haet |
| 09:58.57 | bluspacecow | pretty little hate machine |
| 09:59.43 | Neffi | whoa, nobody said you're pretty |
| 10:01.08 | bluspacecow | :( |
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| 10:53.31 | VIad | http://cakephp.bool.no/ |
| 10:53.40 | VIad | just playing a bit |
| 10:54.06 | karl_w_w | what a player |
| 10:54.09 | VIad | idd |
| 11:04.36 | Neffi | Villains: Have the detonate button readily available, but they always use a countdown instead so the author has an easy plot device to work with. How nice of them. |
| 11:05.28 | VIad | I like it when the plot devices aren't too obvious |
| 11:07.30 | bluspacecow | kk work tiems |
| 11:41.55 | VIad | skeggs: hey |
| 11:49.05 | skeggs | VIad: may I suggest showing time remaining on Today's Deal titles? |
| 11:49.27 | VIad | hehe |
| 11:50.00 | VIad | added it to my todo løist |
| 11:50.03 | VIad | list* |
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| 12:58.10 | Lopeppeppy | La la la la hackers are ruining my work life la la la... |
| 13:08.10 | Maldivia | hackers, or cracker-hackers? |
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| 13:09.33 | zenzio | Lopeppeppy: how so? |
| 13:10.32 | Lopeppeppy | I dunno if they eat crackers, but they've had one of my two web servers down for a solid day now, so I'm full of hate. |
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| 13:33.47 | VIad | Lopeppeppy: firewall? |
| 13:34.51 | Lopeppeppy | I'm not entirely sure, Vlad. The IT guys are huddled up doing voodoo over in the server farm, they don't let the likes of me inside. I just get to talk to all of the angry users and find ways to limp around what's not available. |
| 13:35.11 | Kalroth | You dared to enter the IT department?? heathen!! |
| 13:35.14 | VIad | tell them to unplug internet - no internet, no hackers! |
| 13:36.26 | Lopeppeppy | they let me in lots of other times, Kalroth, I'm kind of one of those tolerated Others. Neither User nor IT, but Middle Other Suport Thing. And I bake brownies. |
| 13:36.34 | Kalroth | :O |
| 13:36.39 | Kalroth | brownies would do the trick |
| 13:36.46 | VIad | #brownies |
| 13:36.48 | Kalroth | valuable currency in an IT department |
| 13:36.59 | Lopeppeppy | They did unplug one of the servers, Vlad - I don't get that third one back until the other two are stable. |
| 13:37.58 | TC-work | To be honest, in IT, everyone is a 'User'. |
| 13:39.32 | Lopeppeppy | Wow, my director is pisssssssed. *giggles madly* |
| 13:39.34 | zenzio | in IT, everyone is an enemy |
| 13:40.04 | Lopeppeppy | "Why can't I .... *insert foolish thing here*?" |
| 13:40.40 | Lopeppeppy | "Remember, hackers? Servers down? Other servers unstable?" "That is unacceptable, what are you doing about it?" ...getting bitched at by you? |
| 13:41.01 | zenzio | I love a particular IT administrator parody video... where he goes "Basically I have a direct conflict of interest with everyone, including my boss." (and another clever sentence that just doesn't translate) |
| 13:41.30 | zenzio | every user of your system makes your job harder, after all =) |
| 13:42.28 | Lopeppeppy | http://www.itworld.com/it-management/361516/9-reasons-sys-admins-hate-you |
| 13:42.40 | VIad | zenzio: http://vimeo.com/14356589 |
| 13:42.55 | zenzio | VIad: I know, I linked you that last week or so :-p |
| 13:42.58 | VIad | :P |
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| 13:46.16 | VIad | "Hint: Running stuff as root isn't a fix." |
| 13:46.22 | VIad | IT'S ALWAYS A FIX |
| 13:46.29 | VIad | just sudo that bitch up |
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| 13:53.09 | Lopeppeppy | Oh god, reviewing resumes for our webmaster. "Skills: Graceful Degradation" |
| 13:53.31 | zenzio | that's actually a pretty good thing, if he's actually good at it |
| 13:53.51 | Lopeppeppy | True, but I adore the phrase - taken out of context so easily. |
| 13:54.01 | zenzio | very true |
| 13:54.21 | Lopeppeppy | I am not a good girl (tm) |
| 13:54.32 | bluworkcow_ | ... |
| 13:54.39 | bluworkcow_ | tonight i brought left overs to work |
| 13:54.47 | bluworkcow_ | strangely there's enough here for 2 meals |
| 13:55.15 | bluworkcow_ | *gasp* Peppy is not good girl ? |
| 13:55.25 | bluworkcow_ | *now imagines two horns on top of her head* |
| 13:56.09 | Lopeppeppy | I am so not a good girl. I'm mentally using a red pen on these guys for their crappy grammar and not hiring any of them. But then I remember that coding is not exactly grammatical like English is, so I forgives. If they will write code, I will write English. |
| 13:56.27 | TC-work | no no no, It is important. |
| 13:56.52 | TC-work | the code needs to be commented, and it needs to be readable |
| 13:57.11 | Lopeppeppy | This is their resume, there's no comment sidebar here. :) |
| 13:57.43 | TC-work | My point is that there are parts of code that do need to be readable. The comments. |
| 13:58.02 | bluworkcow_ | meh |
| 13:58.23 | bluworkcow_ | f that. job security for a programmer means you being the only one able to decipher code ! |
| 13:58.24 | Lopeppeppy | True, but those aren't exactly shakespearean prose. "begin section for trustee emails" "end section for trustee emails" |
| 13:58.37 | bluworkcow_ | name all variable a,b,c,d,e etc etc |
| 13:59.44 | Lopeppeppy | but that is a good interview question - tell me about your commenting practices. They will be working with less-able coders who have to be able to read and troubleshoot their code, that's important for them to include as a variable in their work. |
| 14:01.18 | TC-work | stuff like this makes me rage "<tr class="callPopup" rel="<?php print $globle_url."vacation/popup.htm"; ?>?evaent=<?php print $event['request_id']; ?>" >" |
| 14:01.34 | TC-work | That's not obfuscation like I thought at first, that's just scary. |
| 14:01.52 | TC-work | and the whole code is like that |
| 14:02.03 | Lopeppeppy | ugh. |
| 14:05.20 | Lopeppeppy | Just because you can, doesn't mean that you should. |
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| 14:15.39 | karl_w_w | https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ZGbv83KiMX3CAsJ3hrr9yoOzYji6i2e7VC7Oeog0bJo/edit I enjoy that some of these features are now reality |
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| 14:33.58 | Parnic | fisker https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVWJ_eQ1lvo |
| 14:39.28 | mikma | nsfw because fuck me in the ass because i love jesus - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NicfLmpYuy8&feature=player_embedded |
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| 14:57.27 | pompy | http://www.cheapassgamer.com/topic/301469-amazon-pcdd-indie-store-launch-new-indie-bundles-deal-of-the-week/ |
| 15:01.50 | Dagmar | Except they probably require you run the fucking amazon client on your machine all the time, so fuck that |
| 15:02.37 | Dagmar | People have enough useless shit running in their taskbars without extra bullshit DRM being included |
| 15:02.38 | skeggs | Is there a nifty way to get http://pastebin.com/D0T8p6Jh to return "Everyone" without the brackets? |
| 15:03.49 | VIad | summer bonfires = http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/candy-buckets-summer/ |
| 15:05.05 | VIad | skeggs: like this or? |
| 15:05.07 | VIad | lua> string.match("[Everyone] likes to dance.", "%[(.+)%]") |
| 15:05.11 | VIad | !lua string.match("[Everyone] likes to dance.", "%[(.+)%]") |
| 15:05.13 | VIad | damn you lua bot |
| 15:05.54 | skeggs | Yes! Thank you |
| 15:06.28 | VIad | oh |
| 15:06.30 | VIad | .+? |
| 15:06.33 | VIad | use that instead of just .+ |
| 15:06.45 | VIad | in case of several [stuffs] it will go nuts if you use .+ one |
| 15:06.55 | skeggs | Ah, thanks again |
| 15:07.16 | skeggs | although that returns nil |
| 15:07.24 | VIad | mm |
| 15:07.37 | VIad | nvm |
| 15:07.41 | VIad | .+ is correct |
| 15:07.47 | VIad | I was thinking another regex synta |
| 15:07.50 | VIad | syntax* :P |
| 15:08.05 | skeggs | but you're right about the part of it going ballistic if there's several [stuffs] |
| 15:08.07 | foxlit | unless: string.match("[Everyone] likes to [dance].", "%[(.+)%]") |
| 15:08.07 | foxlit | > Everyone] likes to [dance |
| 15:08.56 | Dagmar | VIad: Add some spaces before the ? when you're talking about regexps, unless it's part of the regexp |
| 15:09.15 | Dagmar | .+? has a meaning. :/ |
| 15:09.34 | foxlit | and he meant that meaning. |
| 15:10.02 | Dagmar | it's maddening enough that lua regexps are another case of a different subset of functionality |
| 15:10.21 | Lopeppeppy | Punctuation counts. *nods seriously* |
| 15:12.02 | VIad | what about |
| 15:12.03 | VIad | string.match("[Everyone] likes to [dance].", "%[([^%]]+)%]") |
| 15:12.09 | foxlit | meh, lua's pattern spec is so concise and understandable that anyone unsure about the syntax should just go read the manual. |
| 15:13.36 | VIad | if lua bot was working, it would have said "Everyone" in my last code |
| 15:13.57 | skeggs | Seems to be good |
| 15:14.12 | VIad | but I must admit I have no clue why the pattern works |
| 15:14.13 | VIad | %[([^%]]+)%] |
| 15:14.27 | VIad | ([^%]]+) |
| 15:14.39 | VIad | instead of a dot I put [^%]] |
| 15:14.43 | VIad | just means "not ]" |
| 15:14.52 | VIad | so matches until ] then stops |
| 15:15.14 | VIad | I guess it just thinks "do not match this; but anything else is fine!" |
| 15:15.32 | Dagmar | Yes, that's what the ^ is for |
| 15:15.37 | VIad | yeah but |
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| 15:15.45 | VIad | what if I wanna match some type of subrange |
| 15:15.54 | Dagmar | It inverts the match on the container's contents |
| 15:15.59 | VIad | [.^%] |
| 15:16.01 | VIad | doesn't work |
| 15:16.12 | Dagmar | No, it doesn't, because the ^ has to start the string |
| 15:16.19 | VIad | but I want "." |
| 15:16.23 | Dagmar | So match %. |
| 15:16.23 | VIad | and I don't want ] |
| 15:16.31 | VIad | . as a class |
| 15:16.36 | VIad | not literal |
| 15:16.39 | Dagmar | Dot, by itself, matches "any character" |
| 15:16.43 | VIad | yeah |
| 15:16.53 | VIad | I'd expect [.%^] to be "any character except ]" |
| 15:16.57 | Dagmar | So if you want anything except ] then match [^%]]\ |
| 15:17.05 | Dagmar | er without the trailing backslash (typo) |
| 15:17.08 | VIad | yeah |
| 15:17.17 | VIad | but I mean for dot it's silly |
| 15:17.32 | VIad | but what if it was a range of ascii |
| 15:17.45 | VIad | "match any of these minus ]" |
| 15:17.51 | VIad | how would you write that? |
| 15:17.58 | Dagmar | Then you'd really be wanting some of the more feature-complete implementations that let you say things like [:alpha:] |
| 15:18.10 | VIad | looks like python |
| 15:18.44 | foxlit | "match any of these minus ]" << don't list "]" as "any of these". Done. |
| 15:18.45 | Dagmar | ...or you'd break out your ASCII chart and use ! to the character before ], and the character after ] to grave |
| 15:19.13 | Dagmar | Probably easier to specify that shit as octal at that point tho |
| 15:19.49 | Lopeppeppy | ... "degraded to the point of failure". My life just got seriously complicated.... |
| 15:22.47 | Unkle | Lopeppeppy: You've described my entire life. |
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| 15:24.40 | Lopeppeppy | That's my web server they're talking about, Unkle. And the next sentence talks about how they didn't renew the service contract this year because we're moving into a new system and didn't think it was worth the expense. I am reading some hierogplyics between those lines that say that I, personally, am about to get lynched by every site owner I haven't managed to put into the new system yet... Fkd. |
| 15:25.50 | Unkle | Lopeppeppy: FYL |
| 15:26.05 | Lopeppeppy | I think I'm in FML for a few weeks at least. *nods* |
| 15:26.41 | alestane | Wow, nasty moment to walk in. |
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| 15:27.36 | alestane | Not sure exactly what happened, but it sounds like someone else left you out of a decision for which you will still be stuck as the public face. |
| 15:27.50 | Lopeppeppy | save me from the mob, alestane. |
| 15:28.36 | alestane | See, I keep telling you to keep wolves. They solve your sheeple problem, and they help discourage mobs. |
| 15:29.16 | Lopeppeppy | But they are afraid of Kendra. And I cannot have a zoo that doesn't get along. |
| 15:29.39 | Lopeppeppy | Chown this shit, bitches. (*actually is wondering if she can putty into the server at all*) |
| 15:36.19 | Unkle | I shouldn't laugh, but I just saw "Wet Tabard Contest" as a guild name. |
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| 15:42.08 | bluworkcow_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:42.11 | bluworkcow_ | o baby |
| 15:42.55 | Unkle | ... boundaries man. boundaries. |
| 15:43.28 | bluworkcow_ | so this game im playing has a part of it where you're meant to avoid the place. except the only way off this ledge ..... is to graple onto a police camera bot |
| 15:43.54 | alestane | Unkle, there used to be a guild on my first server named "Casual Hex" |
| 15:43.54 | bluworkcow_ | s/place/police |
| 15:44.25 | Unkle | alestane: *chuckle* |
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| 15:45.50 | Fisker | hey bluworkcow_ |
| 15:45.54 | Fisker | i don't hate you |
| 15:46.05 | bluworkcow_ | thats rad |
| 15:46.07 | bluworkcow_ | so im glad |
| 15:46.08 | bluworkcow_ | are you |
| 15:46.09 | bluworkcow_ | bad ? |
| 15:46.25 | Fisker | nope |
| 15:46.34 | Fisker | want ban? |
| 15:46.34 | bluworkcow_ | how sad |
| 15:46.37 | bluworkcow_ | no |
| 15:46.39 | bluworkcow_ | i want |
| 15:46.40 | bluworkcow_ | a tan |
| 15:46.45 | bluworkcow_ | if you can |
| 15:47.00 | Fisker | looks like mad to me |
| 15:47.01 | bluworkcow_ | are you dan ? |
| 15:48.18 | VIad | ryming stuff with "*an"? |
| 15:48.51 | bluworkcow_ | if you can! |
| 15:50.40 | VIad | ryming? not a fan |
| 15:50.44 | Fisker | so mad |
| 15:51.09 | VIad | rhyming* - also fan rhymes :p |
| 15:51.12 | VIad | mad doesn't |
| 15:54.28 | sintAcks | why is wowhead still slow :( |
| 15:55.46 | bluworkcow_ | server migration |
| 15:55.49 | bluworkcow_ | flush DNS |
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| 16:03.50 | Dagmar | TTLs. U haz dem. |
| 16:04.21 | Unkle | Too many redirects, you're boned. :P |
| 16:04.28 | Dagmar | I finally got the people here mostly trained to tell us in advance when they're going to move something like that. |
| 16:05.39 | Dagmar | Of course, some people had to get their asses burned more than once over it before they listened to the actual words coming out of my mouth. |
| 16:07.32 | Dagmar | Some of them decided we were just asking them to tell us about moves in advance as some kind of "courtesy". |
| 16:08.05 | Dagmar | The second time I was totally willing to let them try to flip things back in a panic. :) |
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| 16:16.31 | VIad | this is why I keep a 1:1 copy of wowhead locally, I did a full page sync some days ago - need access? |
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| 16:19.32 | TC-Work | ~ping |
| 16:19.32 | purl | ~pong |
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| 16:35.17 | karl_w_w | Why is the first note of Guns N' Roses' November Rain identical to Abba's Thank You For The Music? |
| 16:36.45 | bluworkcow | hmm |
| 16:36.49 | bluworkcow | i dunno lol |
| 16:37.28 | TC-Work | It's a single note. There are bound to be similarities with many things |
| 16:37.56 | bluworkcow | TC-Work: |
| 16:37.58 | bluworkcow | hi |
| 16:38.09 | TC-Work | waves @ bluworkcow |
| 16:38.49 | karl_w_w | On a completely unrelated note, mages have got to be the only class whose level 90 talents actually diminish enjoyability |
| 16:38.59 | TC-Work | pun intended? |
| 16:39.16 | bluworkcow | oh rly? |
| 16:40.11 | karl_w_w | I don't know what the pun was, but sure I'll take credit :D |
| 16:40.29 | TC-Work | 'note' |
| 16:42.13 | karl_w_w | Ah yes |
| 16:42.19 | karl_w_w | Of course, I noticed that |
| 16:49.23 | fewyn | rune of power is so annoying |
| 16:51.26 | pompy | http://www.wnyc.org/articles/new-jersey-news/2013/jun/25/possible-tsunami-observed-along-nj-coast/ lol whatt |
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| 16:54.00 | Dagmar | No worries. It's just Snooki diving off the pier |
| 16:55.36 | Dagmar | Well, if you take the game in the same scope as work, yeah |
| 16:55.45 | Dagmar | @#$@ |
| 17:04.34 | Dagmar | pompy: A six foot wave got them excited? Heh |
| 17:05.17 | alestane | Cairenn: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151565308108197 |
| 17:06.53 | Maldivia | Anyone need some chest hair: http://goo.gl/33p6g |
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| 17:11.33 | TC-Work | I don't think anyone 'needs' chest hair. |
| 17:11.45 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
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| 17:15.14 | Maldivia | TC-Work: some do look better with, than without |
| 17:15.54 | TC-Work | Maldivia: but that's hardly a 'need'. Besides, you have seen before and after of chest hair? |
| 17:16.27 | Maldivia | before and after, meaning? |
| 17:16.38 | TC-Work | with and without chest hair |
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| 17:16.55 | Maldivia | yeah |
| 17:17.00 | Maldivia | well, not of all |
| 17:20.32 | Lopeppeppy | I say, carve that into a peace symbol! |
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| 17:23.05 | VIad | http://wow.joystiq.com/2013/06/22/mobile-armory-gold-hack/ |
| 17:23.16 | VIad | http://i.epvpimg.com/B4vch.jpg |
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| 17:29.54 | VIad | send mail to one of your alts, log onto the alt, ignore the sender character, open the mailbox :P |
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| 17:38.39 | VIad | fun mailbox bug lol, visually |
| 17:40.23 | bluworkcow | http://us.blizzard.com/store/details.xml?id=1100001332 |
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| 17:42.54 | VIad | bluworkcow: http://i40.tinypic.com/of3w5d.png |
| 17:43.18 | VIad | mailbox bugs and shows overflowed valued :P |
| 17:43.20 | VIad | values* |
| 17:43.36 | bluworkcow | lolololol |
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| 17:48.54 | VIad | bluworkcow: do you do the summer bonfire stuff? |
| 17:49.14 | bluworkcow | not atm now. levelling battle pets atm |
| 17:49.52 | VIad | the event hasn't changed for many years |
| 17:49.56 | VIad | still got all the clothes :P |
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| 18:08.31 | VIad | hi jnwhiteh |
| 18:08.38 | jnwhiteh | sup b? |
| 18:09.28 | VIad | nice to see you again |
| 18:09.35 | jnwhiteh | have I been missing? |
| 18:09.41 | jnwhiteh | OH |
| 18:09.45 | jnwhiteh | lua bot! |
| 18:09.50 | jnwhiteh | must rescue |
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| 18:11.00 | bluworkcow | wait! It's dangerous to go alone! |
| 18:11.12 | bluworkcow | *hands jnwhiteh a ---- |
| 18:11.19 | bluworkcow | oh nvm you done it already |
| 18:11.24 | alestane | I feel sort of like lua_bot gets stranded on a desrted island or something, occasionally. |
| 18:11.37 | bluworkcow | poor lua_bot :( |
| 18:11.43 | zenzelezz | I'm not going to try to guess which four-letter word you sensored there |
| 18:11.49 | zenzelezz | cencored |
| 18:11.51 | zenzelezz | whatever |
| 18:12.07 | zenzelezz | I just can't think today |
| 18:12.23 | jnwhiteh | alestane: something like that |
| 18:12.33 | jnwhiteh | I had to upgrade this machine, add more ram, update the kernel |
| 18:16.58 | jnwhiteh | so I forgot to wake her up |
| 18:20.07 | VIad | jnwhiteh: explain this overflow bug in wow http://i40.tinypic.com/of3w5d.jpg |
| 18:20.12 | VIad | it's weird |
| 18:20.25 | jnwhiteh | I blame CTMod |
| 18:20.36 | VIad | not addon related hehe |
| 18:20.46 | jnwhiteh | I still blame CTMod. |
| 18:20.50 | jnwhiteh | you should definitely contact Cide. |
| 18:20.55 | jnwhiteh | I'm sure its his fault |
| 18:21.01 | jnwhiteh | ~seen cide |
| 18:21.04 | purl | cide <~sighed@s213-103-217-131.cust.tele2.se> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowuidev, 51d 17h 6m 33s ago, saying: 'good night'. |
| 18:21.08 | VIad | isn't CTMod a spyware site now? :P |
| 18:21.17 | jnwhiteh | ~sadstrombone |
| 18:21.22 | jnwhiteh | ~sadtrombone |
| 18:21.22 | purl | Wah wah wah wahhhhhh <http://www.sadtrombone.com> |
| 18:26.18 | VIad | oh I shaved today but left my stashe, now I have a pornstashe :3 |
| 18:27.10 | jnwhiteh | ooh |
| 18:27.13 | jnwhiteh | i need to trim my beard |
| 18:29.08 | Unkle | You going full on Grizzly Adams there, jnwhiteh? |
| 18:29.14 | jnwhiteh | at the moment, it appears os |
| 18:29.16 | jnwhiteh | so |
| 18:29.35 | Unkle | Studly. |
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| 18:40.03 | TC-Work | I also have the unshaven bit...but it looks horrible. |
| 18:54.03 | skeggs | Can someone please explain why I'm getting these results? http://pastebin.com/0JTsx8dZ |
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| 19:05.41 | Fisker | hacker VIad |
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| 19:09.11 | VIad | Fisker: :P |
| 19:09.39 | VIad | because the brackets are more than just text |
| 19:09.47 | VIad | look at your line 1 |
| 19:12.29 | VIad | lua> you here? |
| 19:12.29 | lua_bot | VIad: luabot:1: '=' expected near 'here' |
| 19:12.30 | VIad | good |
| 19:13.41 | VIad | lua> string.match("|Hplayer:Charname|h[Charname]|h has invited you to join a group.", "%[([^%[]+)%]") |
| 19:13.42 | lua_bot | VIad: Charname |
| 19:13.45 | VIad | what's the problem? |
| 19:13.49 | VIad | same pattern like last time |
| 19:14.25 | VIad | skeggs: |
| 19:16.01 | skeggs | I'm stumbling in my own legs over here ;) |
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| 19:29.35 | Maldivia | skeggs: still haven't figured out why you get that output? |
| 19:37.41 | VIad | here is a fun scribble ;) http://pastebin.com/0GNwr42Y |
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| 19:44.23 | VIad | no comments? :( |
| 19:47.23 | Stanzilla | oh bnet client update |
| 19:50.23 | Maldivia | Stanzilla: so slow :P |
| 19:50.41 | Maldivia | that was an hour ago :) |
| 19:50.47 | Stanzilla | I was playing borderlands :< |
| 19:50.59 | Stanzilla | or better, failing in borderlands |
| 19:51.07 | Gnarfoz | opening the chat window now longer seems to work |
| 19:52.02 | Stanzilla | you mean the friends list? |
| 19:52.31 | Gnarfoz | well, the dedicated friends list, yeah |
| 19:52.37 | Gnarfoz | it has a mini one in the main window anyway |
| 19:53.40 | Stanzilla | yeah well |
| 19:53.46 | Stanzilla | will probably come back some day |
| 19:53.52 | Gnarfoz | of course |
| 19:54.12 | Gnarfoz | they had it in the alpha already, but it was losing and misplacing messages all over the place ^^ |
| 19:59.32 | zenzelezz | games that fail to capture the mouse in full screen sadden me |
| 19:59.56 | Fisker | https://eu.battle.net/support/en/article/you-are-not-a-part-of-a-beta-test |
| 20:00.00 | Fisker | boo fucking hoo |
| 20:00.01 | Fisker | suck it |
| 20:00.11 | Fisker | also Gnarfoz |
| 20:00.18 | Fisker | how did Stanzilla get beta? |
| 20:01.08 | Stanzilla | _= |
| 20:01.10 | Stanzilla | =) |
| 20:02.41 | Gnarfoz | Fisker: same way as I did, apparently |
| 20:03.00 | Fisker | so why the hate? |
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| 20:03.35 | Gnarfoz | we need a reason to hate you now? |
| 20:04.59 | skeggs | Maldivia: I found a solution, but not the reason why it turned out like that |
| 20:05.30 | Fisker | hating is bad Gnarfoz |
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| 21:04.01 | VIad | I got dota 2 keys |
| 21:04.06 | VIad | if someone wanna trade for bnet beta invite |
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| 21:18.06 | Grivvel | How are people getting beta invites? Just getting lucky with the opt-in? |
| 21:20.07 | Unkle | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/9362996672 - good times. |
| 21:20.12 | fewyn | beta invites for what? the new launcher? |
| 21:20.16 | fewyn | i think it's mostly random |
| 21:20.21 | fewyn | i still haven't gotten one :( |
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| 21:21.52 | Grivvel | Unkle: What about it? |
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| 21:22.21 | Unkle | Good times. :) Finally an event and message that deals with the issue. |
| 21:22.57 | Grivvel | Ah :) Well, if I'm understanding it correctly, it still won't help with AddOns that use a large amount of memory in-game. Just those that save off a ton of data. |
| 21:24.10 | VIad | "Please test your addons with low memory machines on the PTR and let us know if there are any issues." |
| 21:24.11 | Unkle | It will stop AddOns from trying to load their saved variables into RAM if the system hasn't got enough memory. So all those guys trying to play King of the Auction House and King of the DPS meeter on a RAM-limited box will finally get told why they can't loign/crash. |
| 21:24.16 | VIad | like virtual machines? ;P |
| 21:24.42 | VIad | making a winxp with 128mb video card, 1Ghz single core and 512 mb ram |
| 21:25.13 | foxlit | Unkle: wonderful and exciting news for Blizzard's support team, I guess? |
| 21:25.37 | foxlit | kind of meh for everyone else. It's not like "Delete your Interface, WTF and Cache" directories wasn't already the first step of every troubleshooting guide ever. |
| 21:25.40 | Unkle | Heh. |
| 21:26.09 | fewyn | i play king of the auction house |
| 21:26.18 | Grivvel | foxlit: Yeah, but how many people *actually* do that and how many people say "It's not my AddOns' fault!" and just say they did it |
| 21:26.19 | fewyn | i have 16gb of ram tho |
| 21:26.54 | foxlit | Grivvel: don't know; don't care -- not on the support team :) |
| 21:26.56 | Unkle | Mostly I'm just glad end-users will be getting an error message that points them in the right direction. |
| 21:27.08 | fewyn | useful error messages are nice |
| 21:27.25 | fewyn | sadly my game has recently turned to locking up and going white for the window instead of properly crashing |
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| 21:49.58 | Grivvel | fewyn: Sounds like an infinite loop or soething |
| 21:51.30 | fewyn | maybe |
| 21:51.37 | fewyn | i've been meaning to redo my ui lately |
| 21:51.41 | fewyn | maybe it's about time |
| 22:11.32 | VIad | btw here is an idea how to do a data structure on players http://pastebin.com/0GNwr42Y - any POV foxlit, Unkle? |
| 22:14.40 | Unkle | Sorry - really, really busy right now. |
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| 22:14.46 | VIad | np :P |
| 22:18.40 | VIad | not many use metatables, probably a reason, being that coding functions is more efficient than assigning metatables :P |
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| 22:40.30 | zenzelezz | anyone familiar with SSL certificates? Having trouble having ownership of a domain transferred from a reseller, was thinking I could try using a different provider instead - but don't know whether it's possible |
| 22:44.56 | Gnarfoz | how are those two things (certs and domain ownership) related for you? |
| 22:45.54 | zenzelezz | not entirely sure what you're asking. The domain is our company's domain, the certificate for a subdomain |
| 22:46.19 | Arrowmaster | certs and domian ownership arent related at all |
| 22:46.26 | Gnarfoz | you said something about domain transfers, which are unrelated to certs |
| 22:46.45 | zenzelezz | I was unclear about what I meant then, sorry |
| 22:48.08 | zenzelezz | the certificate for our domain was handled by a reseller. We now want to handle the certificate directly ourselves, but the provider then needs us to go through an ownership change (for the domain, in their database I believe) which is proving unfruitful since their confirmation e-mail isn't reaching us |
| 22:48.43 | Gnarfoz | I think the second part in the parentheses is crucial: "in their database" |
| 22:48.56 | Gnarfoz | this doesn't sound like something that's usually necessary |
| 22:48.58 | zenzelezz | I suppose what I'm really asking is; would it be likely to cause any problems if I got a certificate from a different CA for the same domain, as long as the CA and our certificate matches up? |
| 22:49.12 | Gnarfoz | I don't think so |
| 22:49.13 | Arrowmaster | shouldnt be an issue |
| 22:49.23 | Arrowmaster | get new cert and tell the reseller FUCK OFF |
| 22:49.26 | Gnarfoz | ^^ |
| 22:49.30 | zenzelezz | will do :-) |
| 22:49.32 | zenzelezz | thanks |
| 22:49.37 | Arrowmaster | they are trying to fuck with you because they are a reseller |
| 22:50.00 | Arrowmaster | getting a new cert means you have to go through all the trouble of redeploying the cert though |
| 22:50.09 | Gnarfoz | all the trouble? |
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| 22:50.29 | Gnarfoz | depends on how "big" this is |
| 22:50.36 | zenzelezz | redeploying, isn't that essentially just setting up the server with the different certificates? |
| 22:50.43 | Gnarfoz | it is |
| 22:50.45 | Arrowmaster | well i just mean so many sites fuck up just renewing their certs |
| 22:50.54 | zenzelezz | ah, I see |
| 22:50.54 | Gnarfoz | but you could be running 500 servers! |
| 22:50.54 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 22:51.14 | zenzelezz | in truth, we barely run one ;-p |
| 22:51.35 | Gnarfoz | yeah, not much trouble to expect, then |
| 22:51.49 | Arrowmaster | if you use nagios ive heard people add domain renewal and cert renewal reminders in it |
| 22:51.50 | Gnarfoz | do update us though, if you manage to fuck it up regardless ;D:D |
| 22:52.26 | Gnarfoz | yeah, I think actually forgetting to renew is the #1 thing people "fuck up" about renewing certs |
| 22:52.52 | zenzelezz | don't worry, you'll definitely hear about it if I manage to screw it up =D |
| 22:52.58 | Arrowmaster | ive seen a few times where a new cert that isnt valid yet gets pushed out |
| 22:53.14 | Gnarfoz | what kind of CA hands you one like that :O |
| 22:53.19 | Arrowmaster | no clue |
| 22:53.26 | Arrowmaster | but most CAs are dumbshits |
| 22:53.46 | Gnarfoz | true enough |
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