| 00:00.36 | Neffi | p3lim: I would check the quest objectives tracker in FrameXML. |
| 00:00.55 | Neffi | It shows quest items as action buttons, so it probably leverages the API you want |
| 00:01.32 | p3lim | It can get the items based on the API related to the current quest, not the other way around, which is what I want |
| 00:02.11 | Neffi | So, you want to know which quest an item is associated with? |
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| 00:03.34 | Neffi | Loop through all available quests and keep track |
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| 00:06.23 | p3lim | Item might not be associated with any current quests, like the cooking quest gifts |
| 00:06.34 | p3lim | Any repeatable really |
| 00:07.40 | foxlit | p3lim: Is there some function that lets me see if an item is associated with a quest? << No, but thanks for playing. |
| 00:07.48 | p3lim | :D |
| 00:09.06 | p3lim | One thing that is really annoying me right now is that DebugTools aint loading when I try to do /dump or /fstack or /etrace |
| 00:09.18 | Neffi | Does the tooltip still say Quest Item? |
| 00:09.21 | p3lim | No |
| 00:09.36 | Neffi | Then you'll likely need to scrape Wowhead and build a database of quest items |
| 00:09.41 | Neffi | it's going to be a lot of fucking items |
| 00:09.46 | p3lim | Yeah, already working on the python script :/ |
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| 00:10.35 | Neffi | Well "quest items" should be nicely categorized, and you only need a list of item IDs, so it's not all bad |
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| 00:11.45 | foxlit | the definition is nebulous to begin with |
| 00:11.57 | foxlit | are health potions a quest item if there's a quest that requires you to hand them in? |
| 00:12.22 | Neffi | oh, right |
| 00:12.24 | foxlit | are components of an item you need to use to complete a quest a quest item? |
| 00:12.46 | Neffi | well, good luck with that one. i need coffee in me. |
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| 00:26.13 | Syllios | Is there any type of function or event I can look into which changes when the player's defenses change, such as a player getting some sort of bubble shield or the like? I'm looking into the UNIT_DEFENSE event but my source isn't very well documented, I think. |
| 00:28.56 | Neffi | Syllios: For shields specifically, yes, sort of. |
| 00:29.33 | Neffi | The CLEU event for the shield being applied throws an extra argument telling you how much the shield will absorb, and UnitAura() on the shield will also return how much is remaining. |
| 00:29.43 | Syllios | Where can I look into? (By shields I'm assuming you DON'T mean warriors or something like that) |
| 00:30.04 | Neffi | So you can listen to CLEU to pick up the presence of a shield based on whether or not the shield_amount argument was given, and then use an OnUpdate or timer to watch UnitAura to see how much is remaining on the shield |
| 00:30.27 | Neffi | I implemented something like this, I'll paste it. You'll have to look into the CLEU arguments again, because I'm pretty sure they changed since this code |
| 00:30.46 | Syllios | Hmm alright thanks for the help. |
| 00:31.05 | Seerah | Syllios: a shield such as from Power Word: Shield is an aura, a buff. It doesn't affect your defense stat like an off-hand shield that may have +defense on it |
| 00:32.10 | Syllios | Geez I had forgotten about that -_- I hadn't played in a while, my bad. |
| 00:32.37 | Neffi | http://pastebin.com/QTPLMFUK |
| 00:33.15 | Syllios | Thanks for the help guys. |
| 00:51.32 | Neffi | 3 healers, zero heals |
| 00:51.42 | Neffi | I wish not doing your job was an actionable offense |
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| 10:56.52 | AcidWeb | https://github.com/FredKSchott/CoVim |
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| 11:10.48 | Kalroth | need a CoNano |
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| 12:28.56 | zenzio | you must have a lot on your mind Torhal |
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| 12:41.04 | zenzio | so after spending hours trying to debug a file upload problem a customer was experiencing, the results were fruitless. Firefox, Chrome, IE, links; different computers, OSes, geographical locations; different user levels... all worked |
| 12:41.34 | zenzio | in the end I had to accept defeat and call the customer, have her walk me through the process so I could follow it step by step, watching the logs and database |
| 12:41.59 | zenzio | "oh, I always use the e-mail"... >.< (the system allows users to upload files by sending them through e-mail to a system account) |
| 12:42.44 | zenzio | I swear sometimes they omit this information on purpose |
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| 12:44.29 | Lopeppeppy | Just to frustrate us. |
| 12:44.37 | Lopeppeppy | "Oh, I was logged in through VPN to do this, didn't I say that?" |
| 12:46.46 | Maldivia | "my password? Oh wait, I have it on a piece of paper somewhere" |
| 12:46.53 | p3lim | Do rares have some special frame or attribute on their nameplates? |
| 12:47.33 | Semlar | silver dragon |
| 12:47.43 | Maldivia | no on the nameplate |
| 12:47.46 | Semlar | oh the nameplate? i dont' think so |
| 12:48.17 | Semlar | a lot of people use nameplate and unit frame interchangeably so it gets confusing |
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| 12:57.21 | Semlar | i know elites have artwork |
| 12:57.50 | Neffi | There are no distinguishing factors accessible from Lua within the nameplate's frame to indicate it's a rare |
| 12:58.13 | Neffi | So if you wanted there to be a silver dragon, you'd need a database of all known rares |
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| 13:00.57 | Neffi | Is it weird to order a cheeseburger for delivery at 9 AM? |
| 13:01.38 | zenzio | I'd say it is over here, don't know about where you live |
| 13:01.42 | Semlar | who delivers cheeseburgers |
| 13:01.48 | Neffi | the pizzeria |
| 13:01.54 | Semlar | what! |
| 13:02.00 | Neffi | the uhh |
| 13:02.03 | Semlar | what pizzeria sells cheeseburgers! |
| 13:02.08 | Semlar | this is all wrong |
| 13:02.09 | Neffi | yeah |
| 13:02.24 | Neffi | it's not too uncommon over here, but not many people order that kinda stuff |
| 13:02.49 | Neffi | i do because this place makes a delicious fucking burger |
| 13:02.50 | zenzio | 9 AM, I guess that makes you east coast US? |
| 13:02.56 | Neffi | yeah |
| 13:03.07 | Neffi | been up all night, and I'm wanting a burger for dinner-- at 9 am =/ |
| 13:03.13 | Semlar | well i'm in florida and have no idea where you're ordering a cheeseburger from |
| 13:03.35 | Neffi | I feel like I say I'm from NYC too much |
| 13:03.58 | Semlar | i could go for a pizza though |
| 13:04.28 | Semlar | i got up 7 hours ago so everything is off |
| 13:04.32 | Neffi | Now I kinda want both. fucl. |
| 13:05.21 | bleeter | zenzio: 'computers have become so common and user friendly, even an idiot can use them. unfortunately, many do.' (unknown) |
| 13:05.32 | Neffi | it's criminal that a good burger+fries will cost me as much as a large pizza |
| 13:06.10 | Semlar | what is that like $14 |
| 13:06.50 | Neffi | like $10-11 last I checked |
| 13:07.15 | Semlar | well it's only fair to compare it to a good pizza |
| 13:07.38 | Neffi | I remember when you could get a good cheeseburger for under $10. Now you're stuck with McDonalds in that price range. |
| 13:07.47 | Neffi | $10 is a good pizza. This is NY. |
| 13:07.55 | Neffi | The shitty pizza actually costs more |
| 13:08.05 | Neffi | (eg, Dominoes) |
| 13:08.42 | Semlar | do you have papa johns in new york |
| 13:08.48 | Neffi | unfortunately |
| 13:09.15 | Semlar | where are you ordering from |
| 13:09.35 | Neffi | Metro |
| 13:09.44 | Semlar | sounds kinda gay |
| 13:09.47 | Neffi | it's all local places here. you don't get good pizza from a chain. |
| 13:10.01 | Neffi | so they all have cheesy Italian names or gay guido names |
| 13:11.16 | Maldivia | Metro is a sandwich place here :) |
| 13:11.29 | Neffi | well fuck me they open at 11 |
| 13:11.32 | Neffi | who opens at 11? |
| 13:11.36 | bluspacecow | http://niknak79.tumblr.com/post/49869065171/i-regret-nothing |
| 13:11.41 | bluspacecow | LOLOLOLOLOL |
| 13:11.56 | Maldivia | Neffi: places who aren't expecting to serve pizza or cheeseburgers for breakfast |
| 13:11.59 | Semlar | they probably don't get a ton of business at 9am on a monday |
| 13:12.22 | Neffi | I have a feeling I'm one of the few who honors the adage "city that never sleeps" |
| 13:12.28 | Semlar | especially a local place |
| 13:12.39 | Maldivia | Semlar: Friday-Sunday, they might |
| 13:12.50 | Neffi | When it comes to Italian food, which is pretty much the most popular food in NY, local places get all the business |
| 13:13.03 | Neffi | You don't see people ordering Dominoes unless it's 2 AM and they're high as a kite |
| 13:13.19 | Maldivia | there's nothing like fast food when heading home from a night out |
| 13:13.33 | Semlar | right, a chain is going to be more likely to be open at odd hours than a small business |
| 13:13.54 | Neffi | That's true. Also more expensive. Tax and all. |
| 13:13.54 | Maldivia | (especially since people don't really care about the quality of food at that hour of day) |
| 13:15.28 | Maldivia | ... and now I'm hungry :( |
| 13:15.32 | bluspacecow | PUPPIES http://unicorn-meat-is-too-mainstream.tumblr.com/post/48185116262/adorable-baby-cuddles-up-with-french-bulldog |
| 13:16.39 | zenzio | so cute |
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| 13:16.44 | zenzio | too bad they ruined it with that baby |
| 13:19.50 | bluspacecow | ohgodwhy |
| 13:19.51 | bluspacecow | http://relatable-pics.tumblr.com/post/49306868606 |
| 13:21.53 | zenzio | I know I've looked it up so many times, but for the life of me I can never remember if there's a meaningful difference between SELECT COUNT(*) and SELECT COUNT(1) |
| 13:24.48 | Neffi | http://i.imgur.com/Ief2A.gif |
| 13:24.51 | Neffi | cat's got some skill |
| 13:26.32 | bluspacecow | O_O http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mortal_Instruments:_City_of_Bones |
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| 13:27.45 | Semlar | my cat knows how to open doors and cabinets and once they know you can't get them to stop |
| 13:27.52 | bluspacecow | LOL http://overhumor.tumblr.com/post/50793933990/cat-in-google-street-view |
| 13:28.58 | Neffi | It can be cute though. My mother's cat brings her the coffee filters every morning. |
| 13:29.03 | Neffi | He just hasn |
| 13:29.15 | Neffi | 't put it together that she cant make coffee in bed |
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| 13:29.52 | p3lim | Gah, LoadAddOn fails to load Blizzard_DebugTools properly |
| 13:30.00 | p3lim | Anyone had this issue? |
| 13:30.46 | bluspacecow | PTR . Live , EU or US ? |
| 13:30.48 | Neffi | is DebugTools already loaded? |
| 13:31.03 | p3lim | It's not loaded, when I load it nothing happens |
| 13:31.11 | p3lim | Even LoadAddOn returns true |
| 13:31.19 | Semlar | how do you know it's not loaded |
| 13:31.25 | zenzio | if only you had the tools to debug it \o/ |
| 13:31.26 | p3lim | None of the functions/commands are available |
| 13:31.35 | Semlar | it is somewhat ironic |
| 13:31.36 | p3lim | zenzio: -.- |
| 13:31.37 | bluspacecow | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:31.43 | Neffi | Give me the name of a function |
| 13:31.52 | p3lim | DevTools_DumpCommand |
| 13:31.54 | bluspacecow | MakeBluSexy() |
| 13:32.01 | p3lim | bluspacecow: Invalid |
| 13:32.08 | bluspacecow | :( |
| 13:32.21 | Neffi | Well on my client it's being loaded at login |
| 13:32.44 | p3lim | Sometimes it loads, sometimes it doesn't |
| 13:32.49 | p3lim | I have to /reload like 10-15 times |
| 13:33.13 | Semlar | wait you mean you can't use any of the slash commands normally? |
| 13:33.21 | Semlar | this isn't something you should have to load manually |
| 13:33.30 | p3lim | Correct |
| 13:33.40 | Semlar | some other addon is probably interfering |
| 13:33.47 | bluspacecow | obvious do you have Display Lua errors turned on and a decent bug grabber adon loaded question |
| 13:33.48 | p3lim | This is without any addons |
| 13:33.56 | Semlar | uh |
| 13:34.09 | Semlar | maybe your client is broken |
| 13:34.13 | p3lim | Hence why I'm asking :p |
| 13:34.23 | p3lim | Maybe |
| 13:34.25 | Semlar | you can't do /etrace or anything |
| 13:34.31 | p3lim | Same addon, same issue |
| 13:34.55 | Semlar | wait do you mean without ANY addons or without any addons aside from the one |
| 13:35.14 | p3lim | Any addons |
| 13:35.20 | Neffi | it could be a fluke in your config exposing a bug that prevents it from reliably loading |
| 13:35.22 | p3lim | Obviously, I'm not counting the default interface |
| 13:35.35 | Neffi | why don't you make a blank addon with a valid TOC that lists it as a dependency? |
| 13:35.37 | p3lim | Tried nuking the config, no difference |
| 13:35.44 | Neffi | Then it should always load |
| 13:35.44 | Semlar | i'm just making sure you aren't working on an addon that might be breaking it |
| 13:36.21 | Neffi | I'm curious how an addon would prevent you from loading it |
| 13:36.33 | Neffi | Aside from hooking LoadAddOn and intentionally fucking you over |
| 13:36.53 | Semlar | it could be unloading it somehow |
| 13:37.05 | Semlar | or causing an error |
| 13:37.12 | Semlar | but that's not the case here |
| 13:37.18 | bluspacecow | Look for code by Fisker in it |
| 13:37.24 | Neffi | Unloading it? |
| 13:37.34 | Neffi | I don't think that's possible in WoW |
| 13:37.37 | zenzio | no use bluspacecow; Fisker would never bother trying to hide his misdeeds |
| 13:37.38 | Semlar | sure, you could intentionally unload a load on demand addon |
| 13:37.52 | Neffi | how would one go about this? |
| 13:38.07 | Semlar | disableaddon? |
| 13:38.07 | Neffi | and what the hell happens to the mess it leaves in the environment? |
| 13:38.18 | Neffi | that doesnt take effect until a reload |
| 13:38.37 | Neffi | That's just equivalent to unchecking the addon from the list before login, really |
| 13:39.26 | Semlar | well there are certainly less conventional ways to prevent the addon from doing anything if you wanted to |
| 13:39.58 | Semlar | but i don't know why you would break the debug tools |
| 13:41.57 | p3lim | I'll try a fresh install, gah |
| 13:42.04 | Maldivia | some other addon has defined globals with the same name, that causes the addon to fail loading? |
| 13:42.20 | Semlar | he said there aren't any addons |
| 13:42.28 | Neffi | Wouldn't cause it to fail loading |
| 13:42.39 | haste | depends on how the add-on uses the global |
| 13:43.01 | p3lim | I'm inclining that there might be something wrong with LoadAddOn |
| 13:43.16 | p3lim | If not, it's my install |
| 13:43.24 | Semlar | i'm thinking it's more likely your install |
| 13:43.28 | p3lim | Maybe |
| 13:43.32 | Semlar | since it loads fine for me |
| 13:43.33 | Maldivia | hmm, can't frame creation fail, if there's already another frame with that name? |
| 13:43.34 | p3lim | Had this issue ever since 5.3 |
| 13:43.37 | Semlar | without it needing to be loaded |
| 13:43.48 | Maldivia | p3lim: try running the repair util |
| 13:44.11 | p3lim | Maldivia: Isn't repair deprecated? |
| 13:44.21 | bluspacecow | no it's hiding |
| 13:44.25 | bluspacecow | in the Launcher |
| 13:44.30 | Semlar | Maldivia: the new frame would just replace the old frame's global name |
| 13:44.31 | bluspacecow | Help menu -> Repair tool |
| 13:44.34 | p3lim | I've got the Battle.net launcher |
| 13:44.53 | bluspacecow | it's in there under a popup menu |
| 13:44.54 | Semlar | the old frame would still exist |
| 13:45.02 | Maldivia | and repair is not yet implemented in BNA |
| 13:45.09 | p3lim | Correct |
| 13:45.28 | Maldivia | ohh... there is a Scan and repair option in BNA |
| 13:45.28 | bluspacecow | oh ? LOL news to me :3 |
| 13:45.40 | p3lim | There is, but it's disabled |
| 13:45.52 | Semlar | you'd tried just deleting the blizzard addon from the addons folder? |
| 13:45.56 | Semlar | you've* |
| 13:45.58 | bluspacecow | doesn't seem to do anything for the PTR but for Live it appears to process/ … something |
| 13:46.04 | p3lim | Semlar: next on my list |
| 13:46.22 | bluspacecow | maybe its a fake progress bar |
| 13:46.26 | bluspacecow | yeah live does nothing |
| 13:46.28 | bluspacecow | nope |
| 13:47.51 | p3lim | Hm, /dump works from load atleast |
| 13:48.06 | p3lim | I'll see if it behaves like before |
| 13:48.32 | Semlar | i use etrace and fstack pretty frequently |
| 13:48.45 | p3lim | Same, just haven't been much online the past few months |
| 13:48.47 | bluspacecow | maybe etrace and fstack's just undefined |
| 13:48.58 | bluspacecow | maybe you could get them working again with /dump :3 |
| 13:49.04 | p3lim | if /dump doesn't work then neither does anything else from DebugTools |
| 13:49.17 | p3lim | So it's an universal issue, not directed at a single function |
| 13:49.29 | p3lim | But so far it seems to be fixed |
| 13:59.00 | Rythal_ | anyone else noticed since 5.3 if you don't keep wow in the forground during launch, it doesn't get keyboard / mouse access. |
| 14:00.37 | Semlar | one of my friends had that problem, i think it was his video card |
| 14:03.53 | Maldivia | same issue here - annoying as hell |
| 14:06.03 | Semlar | i think he solved it by just bypassing the launcher |
| 14:06.49 | Semlar | start wow.exe directly |
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| 14:39.23 | airtonix | real men execute via memory address |
| 14:41.36 | Maldivia | what if it's not in mem? |
| 14:42.36 | TC-work | <PROTECTED> |
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| 14:48.23 | Maldivia | you read what you want to read :P |
| 14:49.44 | Lopeppeppy | Execute with a garrotte, that's what I'm saying. |
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| 14:56.43 | TC-work | Hey, it was relevant to airtonix's comment. |
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| 15:17.33 | Neffi | only I could manage to lose a damn hard drive |
| 15:17.46 | Neffi | a beefy internal one too |
| 15:17.49 | TC-work | Digitally or physically? |
| 15:18.07 | Neffi | physically |
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| 15:18.20 | Neffi | but i've managed to dban a disk by accident |
| 15:18.30 | Cairenn | time to clean the room/house |
| 15:18.45 | Neffi | not in this heat |
| 15:18.50 | Neffi | damn air's not working |
| 15:19.04 | Cairenn | Yes it is - you're still breathing aren't you? |
| 15:19.11 | Cairenn | :p |
| 15:19.14 | Neffi | funny |
| 15:19.20 | Cairenn | true |
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| 15:22.44 | Unkle | lulz. |
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| 15:24.03 | Unkle | So, Sunday afternoon I went to PetSmart because I needed supplies for the cats. I was wearing the "AddOn Author" T-Shirt generously supplied by WoWI. A guy and his family stopped me in the store to talk about WoW and AddOns. It was a little surreal. |
| 15:24.58 | TC-work | Should have learned not to advertise by now. |
| 15:26.45 | Unkle | He was curious to know if he was using any of my AddOns. Since mine are discontinued (someone wrote a way better version while I was busying moving across the country) I said it wasn't likely. He was very nice about it. But it was just an unexpected encounter. Usually I get asked "Alliance or Horde?" |
| 15:28.53 | karl_w_w | are people who ask you alliance or horde usually horde? |
| 15:30.13 | Torhal | Unkle: I got fist-bumped by a late-forties female employee at Lowes while wearing a Curse shirt. |
| 15:30.44 | Torhal | I just wanted a water filter for my ice-maker. |
| 15:30.45 | Unkle | Rock on. |
| 15:30.46 | Torhal | :D |
| 15:31.36 | Unkle | karl_w_w: Most people who ask me that question are looking to talk smack about faction choices. |
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| 15:32.46 | karl_w_w | I guessed as much Unkle :P |
| 15:33.50 | Unkle | When someone sys that I usually confuse them - I say "Both." |
| 15:34.03 | Cairenn | hehehe |
| 15:35.15 | Kalroth | horde for life!! |
| 15:36.06 | Unkle | You didn't throw gang-signs. |
| 15:36.21 | Kalroth | zug zug |
| 15:36.33 | Unkle | Daboo |
| 15:36.51 | karl_w_w | I'm not that kind of orc |
| 15:36.56 | Kalroth | I am |
| 15:44.12 | Unkle | So - someone just called to get our "Printer Model Number" so they could "send us the updated manual." When I pointed out that manuals are available online, in PDF for free, they hung up. |
| 15:44.32 | Cairenn | lol |
| 15:45.38 | Unkle | I'm assuming he was working in a phone scam boiler room. |
| 15:46.19 | airtonix | yeah printer model numbers are the backdoor to your router didn't you know? |
| 15:46.54 | Maldivia | no, to send a huge bill along with the manual |
| 15:47.25 | airtonix | just send the bill anyway? |
| 15:48.14 | Unkle | Well, network printers usually have elevated permissions - especially for MFPs which scan and email. A lot of lazy admins give them too many rights and not enough protection. But I erxpect he was just looking for information so he could send a bill or try to sell us knock-off toner supplies. |
| 15:48.44 | TC-work | Well there is that patent faxing/printer sue fest going on. |
| 15:49.22 | Lopeppeppy | Oooh, Toner Phoner scams! |
| 15:49.40 | Lopeppeppy | Farkin' love those. |
| 15:50.01 | Unkle | He was all business about getting the model number too. I mean, he sounded just like a support tech. Calm, confident, clear directions. But since HP doesn't send out paper manuals, I was pretty instantly suspicious. |
| 15:50.15 | Lopeppeppy | "Oh, we have three different printers and a Xerox. Can I put you on hold while I check?" .... xfer to Campus Safety. |
| 15:50.47 | Lopeppeppy | If I get the right dispatcher on duty, that scammer is in for a hell of a ride. |
| 15:51.10 | TC-work | Unkle: caller id? |
| 15:52.13 | Unkle | Just a number and I didn't bother to record it. |
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| 15:54.09 | Lopeppeppy | They'll have a new number tomorrow anyway. |
| 15:54.40 | Unkle | Lopeppeppy: http://arstechnica.com/science/2013/06/what-does-your-cat-do-when-youre-not-around/ |
| 15:56.23 | Fisker | hey Lopeppeppy |
| 15:56.44 | Maldivia | Unkle: I'm actually not sure I really want to know... |
| 15:56.55 | Lopeppeppy | Morning, Fisker-dear. |
| 15:57.11 | Unkle | The article notes that they seem to mostly go to someone else's place for more food. |
| 15:57.37 | Lopeppeppy | Unkle, the next-door-neighbor cat brought us a dead squirrel this weekend. I was thrilled - not. He got some treats, I buried it. |
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| 15:58.01 | Unkle | Lopeppeppy: but, but, them's good eating. |
| 16:01.56 | Lopeppeppy | He did not care to eat it. He left it for us at about 8pm, I didn't see it then. Just knew the other cats were throwing a FIT about him being in the yard. |
| 16:02.50 | zenzelezz | god I love Funcom's sense of humor. Patch note: "The Omni-Tek Tailor is no longer racist and will accept rollerrat tails from Nanomage characters" (nanomage being one of the four races) |
| 16:03.03 | karl_w_w | omg somebody on my real id/battletags is playing d3 |
| 16:03.09 | karl_w_w | i have seen that in ages |
| 16:03.13 | zenzelezz | Unfriend, unfriend! |
| 16:05.51 | Semlar | self.args = { {}, {}, {}, {}, {}, {}, {}, {}, {}, {}, {}, {}, {}, {}, {}, {} } |
| 16:06.33 | Semlar | i heard you like tables |
| 16:06.36 | TC-work | I argue about nothing all the time. |
| 16:07.01 | Unkle | lots of empty tables makes baby jebuz cry. |
| 16:07.23 | Semlar | this is out of debugtools |
| 16:13.12 | Maldivia | could have been worse, could have been like = { [{}] = {}, [{}] = {}, --[[ etc ]] } |
| 16:13.46 | Unkle | I heard you had RAM, nom nom nom |
| 16:14.27 | Maldivia | well, what good is RAM if you don't use it |
| 16:15.04 | Semlar | NOTHING |
| 16:25.42 | Torhal | http://www.downloadmoreram.com/ |
| 16:31.12 | Lopeppeppy | RAMming speed, Mr. LaForge. |
| 16:34.49 | Unkle | Torhal: That's BRILLIANT |
| 16:35.17 | Torhal | Muah. |
| 16:35.38 | Unkle | Anyone remember RAMDoubler? |
| 16:36.07 | Lopeppeppy | Was that an addon? |
| 16:36.46 | bluspacecow | os9 extension iirc |
| 16:37.01 | Unkle | OS 7 and 8 too. |
| 16:37.27 | Unkle | Virtual memory manager software that was pretty rocking back in the day. |
| 16:37.44 | bluspacecow | did funny things with the mem stack iirc |
| 16:38.11 | TC-work | Rather reminded me of Johnny Mnemonic as well. |
| 16:38.35 | Unkle | Yeah, it was added to the movie as a funny gag. |
| 16:39.20 | bluspacecow | oh? |
| 16:39.57 | nightcracker | lol that download ram app looks legit |
| 16:40.46 | Unkle | Yeah, in the movie version, Johnny is told he can't exceed the storage capacity in his brain-ware without consequences. He uses a RAMDoubler thing to double his capacity for one last "big score." |
| 16:41.12 | bluspacecow | ty unkle |
| 16:41.48 | Unkle | bluspacecow: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0Ak4N36CMo |
| 16:42.24 | bluspacecow | i have weird combination of laundry related products drying on my hands. so im down to finger typing atm |
| 16:42.35 | zenzelezz | "I get excited like logging into a foot cramp"... I have no idea what that's supposed to mean |
| 16:44.06 | p3lim | _ is not a magic character right? (pattern matching) |
| 16:44.21 | Semlar | no |
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| 16:45.34 | Lopeppeppy | zenzelezz, that sounds like an English translation error to me! |
| 16:45.44 | Semlar | sounds like a markov chain to me |
| 16:46.05 | zenzelezz | it's actually just an eastern European |
| 16:46.20 | Semlar | an eastern european robot though, right |
| 16:56.56 | bluspacecow | brb |
| 17:00.59 | Fisker | hey bluspacecow |
| 17:03.54 | Lopeppeppy | I need a robot. |
| 17:09.34 | Maldivia | will a bobbing bird do ? |
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| 17:10.47 | TC-work | Very insensitive Maldivia |
| 17:12.50 | Maldivia | TC-work: you'd rather have a flipping bird ? :) |
| 17:14.23 | TC-work | Maldivia: I was using bird in the slang usage. |
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| 17:18.07 | TC-work | Nothing like spending 5 min trying to get sql working just to figure out you are on the wrong server. |
| 17:18.28 | Maldivia | at least it was only 5 minutes |
| 17:18.36 | End | yeah...yeah |
| 17:19.13 | TC-work | web01 != webhost. just wished the names were a bit more different. |
| 17:20.02 | Maldivia | it's only average half the name that's the same |
| 17:22.18 | TC-work | they also do things that are far too similar. |
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| 17:49.10 | p3lim | Is there some option/cvar to disable microscaling some nameplates? |
| 17:49.24 | p3lim | "Minion"-type mobs have tiny nameplates |
| 17:52.53 | End | not that I'm aware |
| 17:53.06 | End | (and I've looked) |
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| 17:56.58 | bluspacecow | i would launch wow in console mode |
| 17:57.03 | alestane | RAMDoubler sounds like the older cousin of http://downloadmoreram.com/ (even if it WAS more legit). |
| 17:57.04 | bluspacecow | and go ` |
| 17:57.09 | bluspacecow | help *plates* |
| 17:58.16 | bluspacecow | http://www.wowpedia.org/Cvar |
| 18:02.20 | Semlar | tidyplates attempts to unscale them |
| 18:03.43 | Semlar | at least i think it was tidyplates |
| 18:06.10 | End | unfortunately the client expects them to still take a smaller amount of space |
| 18:06.26 | Semlar | it won't change their clickable area but it will make them readable |
| 18:06.37 | End | causes overlapping problems for me |
| 18:06.52 | Semlar | oh, well i have spread disabled |
| 18:06.53 | End | my tidyplates scales them back down again |
| 18:07.14 | End | er my tidyplates theme |
| 18:07.37 | Semlar | i also don't use tidyplates, i just remember it was causing issues when i was trying to figure out how to support various nameplate addons with questplates |
| 18:07.38 | End | so tidyplates makes the frame normal and then I scale it back down |
| 18:08.56 | End | I started writing a standalone nameplate theme, but didn't get very far with debuff tracking |
| 18:09.26 | End | tidyplate's debuff tracking is kind of a butt, but I haven't had time to bother with it myself |
| 18:10.31 | Semlar | well, it has to keep tying the guid to the nameplate and it's kind of a pain in the ass |
| 18:10.39 | End | yeah |
| 18:10.56 | End | also players make it messier too |
| 18:11.10 | Semlar | player nameplates would be easier to track since their names are unique |
| 18:11.21 | Semlar | you don't have to bother with identifying their guid |
| 18:11.35 | End | you don't get durations though from CLEU |
| 18:11.37 | Semlar | well, mostly unique |
| 18:13.54 | Unkle | "Cry 'Havoc!' and let slip the guinea pigs of war!"http://www.ebay.com/itm/Hand-made-Guinea-Pig-Scale-Mail-and-Helmet-Armor-/321142440749 |
| 18:14.10 | Semlar | i'm pretty sure you can get an estimate for the duration even without a valid unit id through some tricks |
| 18:14.55 | Semlar | i did it for my crowd control tracking addon a long time ago but i can't recall off the top of my head what i did |
| 18:15.30 | Semlar | but once someone does target them you can update it |
| 18:16.13 | Semlar | well, actually you're almost guaranteed to have a valid unit id at the time of application |
| 18:16.52 | Semlar | generally you're targeting or mousing over whatever you're casting on |
| 18:17.53 | Semlar | so the combat log event would mostly be for determining if it falls off early |
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| 18:41.55 | TC-work | I have 0 luck with chrome. |
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| 18:53.36 | Unkle | TC-work: Maybe it's your approach. Try practicing your smile and opening line in a mirror. Maybe buy it a drink first. |
| 18:54.16 | TC-work | Unkle: I bought it a damn computer, but it still seems to not be enough. |
| 18:54.42 | *** topic/#wowuidev by Seerah -> http://pastebin.com || 5.3.x ToC: 50300 || #WoWUIDev-commits: CIA & JIRA bots reporting || Battletags: http://goo.gl/2bm7n || This channel is logged, via purl || BlizzCon! Nov. 8-9 || Happy Birthday Ncheckn! |
| 18:55.25 | Unkle | It's a materialistic browser, it's impressed by lots of RAM and high clock speeds. |
| 18:56.08 | *** topic/#wowuidev by Seerah -> http://pastebin.com || 5.3.x ToC: 50300 || #WoWUIDev-commits: CIA & JIRA bots reporting || Battletags: http://goo.gl/2bm7n || This channel is logged, via purl || BlizzCon! Nov. 8-9 || Happy Birthday Nechckn! |
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| 19:06.01 | Fisker | not even death can save you from me |
| 19:06.06 | Fisker | i mean hello |
| 19:08.45 | TC-work | Who says I want to be saved from you? |
| 19:08.46 | Elkano | Die Fisker, die! |
| 19:08.55 | Elkano | (and yes, that's German) |
| 19:11.16 | Fisker | yes it is Elkano |
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| 19:17.02 | Lopeppeppy | Ratzle frakin' son' of a friggin' Twitter! |
| 19:31.40 | Ackis | Lopeppeppy: can you recommend a good automated way to mine ghost iron ore so I can play animal crossing on my DS instead of mining? :P |
| 19:32.52 | Lopeppeppy | I believe that you should use a pickled herring. |
| 19:33.31 | zenzelezz | no, silly |
| 19:33.45 | nevcairiel | a red herring, not a pickled one |
| 19:33.46 | zenzelezz | those are for cutting down the largest trees in the forest |
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| 19:38.22 | Arrowmaster | finally i got sasl working in xchat |
| 19:38.45 | Arrowmaster | had to set it up because im tethered to my phone and they block non authed connections from mobile networks |
| 19:39.34 | Arrowmaster | timewarner and others all seem to be down here although att cell towers are working fine |
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| 19:51.18 | mikma | "we're releasing the Minuum beta to you TOMORROW, June 18, 2013." |
| 19:55.24 | bleeter | Tue Jun 18 05:55:36 EST 2013 |
| 19:56.31 | Dagmar | No one cares about other-side-of-the-planet timezone |
| 19:56.32 | bleeter | i really should do something about ctcp time responses, just to screw with the heads of folks like dagmar ;) |
| 19:57.10 | bleeter | Dagmar: how *is* living in the past working out for you? |
| 19:57.20 | Lopeppeppy | Staff retreat tomorrow. "...sing your favorite Vegas music from artists like Frank Sinatra, Dean Martin, Sammy Davis Jr., Louis Prima, Elvis Presley, Wayne Newton, Tom Jones and Connie Francis." |
| 19:57.48 | Dagmar | bleeter: Pretty good considering that I don't have to sleep hanging upside down or worry about being eaten by venomous giraffes |
| 19:58.18 | bleeter | I see the blood rushing to Dagmar's head has him mistakenly thinking he's not upside down |
| 19:58.29 | bleeter | Lopeppeppy: wut |
| 19:59.05 | Dagmar | Ya want a refresher on the lyrics for "(I Did It) Sideways"? |
| 20:00.09 | bleeter | Lopeppeppy: and I don't mean this as a personaly question, but what's the avg age of staff where you are? |
| 20:00.24 | bleeter | s/ly/l/ |
| 20:00.27 | Lopeppeppy | Kid you f'ing not, that's the artist list for our karaoke. Zootfizzle is rolling over dying of laughter somewhere. |
| 20:01.04 | Lopeppeppy | bleeter, we have some in the 50-60, and some in the 25-40. It's about half-half. The two running the stupid retreat I'd peg at 43-45. |
| 20:01.10 | bleeter | Lopeppeppy: well, I know at least Tom Jones has done some halfway decent covers of more modern music so you may get lucky |
| 20:01.40 | bleeter | I dout Frank Sinartra will be releasing any Prince tunes soon, though |
| 20:01.57 | bleeter | egads, my spellngis |
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| 20:03.21 | Lopeppeppy | I mean... seriously. Wine tastings, casino night, and karaoke by people my mom wouldn't have made me listen to. |
| 20:04.17 | bleeter | wine tasting is OK as long as there's acceptance of faux intellectual snobbery |
| 20:04.35 | bleeter | and, swallow not spit |
| 20:04.50 | bleeter | or gargle even |
| 20:05.20 | Dagmar | Lopeppeppy: This is exactly why you need to "mistakenly" sing slightly altered versions of the songs |
| 20:05.33 | Lopeppeppy | It's "bring your own bottle of good wine" to share with friends! |
| 20:05.42 | bleeter | dafuq |
| 20:05.46 | Dagmar | Repeat after me "What? This is what my dad used to sing over the radio in the car on trips when I was a kid." |
| 20:06.19 | Dagmar | I'm still working on one of the choruses for "Mister Pornman", but it's not as likely the aforemention explanation would work with that one |
| 20:06.31 | bleeter | Lopeppeppy: take some chateau cardboard and an innocent look |
| 20:07.15 | Lopeppeppy | I'm bringing the work laptop and I plan to be fucking busy when they're doing casino night. I grew up with alcoholics and other addictions - I don't do gambling, not even play. |
| 20:08.14 | bleeter | the only way to play casino games is if they let you put money on the house to win |
| 20:09.33 | bleeter | Lopeppeppy: you could always try and get a cholera or typhoid diagnosis that weekend. |
| 20:09.51 | Lopeppeppy | I have a big enough problem with the forced socialization from 6pm - 10pm. (It's tomorrow and wed at least not a weekend) |
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| 20:11.59 | bleeter | people who think improving work team performance through shared pain at workshops need their heads read. more than likely, there's enough shared pain at work already without it being confected |
| 20:14.02 | Lopeppeppy | It's so that we can all get the budget and yearly plans at once. |
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| 20:22.20 | Arrowmaster | fucking timewarner, theyve redone their site and i cant find a damn outage status page anywhere |
| 20:22.44 | bleeter | ~comfort Lopeppeppy |
| 20:22.44 | purl | There, there, Lopeppeppy. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
| 20:25.38 | TC-work | Arrowmaster: seems to have been removed. |
| 20:25.55 | Arrowmaster | yeah |
| 20:26.11 | Arrowmaster | i feel like making a support tech cry |
| 20:26.51 | TC-work | They work in tech support, you are far too late. |
| 20:27.02 | kd3|hate`net | ^ |
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| 20:31.06 | Arrowmaster | what the fuck, i cant even find a god damn telephone number on timewarners new site |
| 20:31.52 | Unkle | Because they don't want to talk to you. It costs money. |
| 20:32.07 | Arrowmaster | maybe its just the mobile data connection being bad that it took forever to load the number |
| 20:32.12 | Arrowmaster | finally have it |
| 20:32.20 | TC-work | I was bout to say.... |
| 20:32.58 | TC-work | took me 3 clicks to get it |
| 20:33.11 | TC-work | 4 if you have to do that zipcode thing |
| 20:33.40 | Arrowmaster | yeah had to put the zip and it didnt do anything |
| 20:35.42 | Arrowmaster | called and got an automated 'there is a service outage, our customer support representatives dont have any further information regarding this outage' |
| 20:36.57 | Arrowmaster | also fuck exchange services on my phone, it killed my battery in 3 hours this morning and used more data than tethering has so far since ive been home |
| 20:37.48 | Arrowmaster | i think the setting for how long of a time period to sync keeps getting reset to 1 month so it keeps downloading everything and running out of room and deleting it, then downloads it again |
| 20:38.30 | Dagmar | I worry more about the security requirements. |
| 20:38.40 | durcyn | in other news, apparently people still use exchange |
| 20:38.52 | Dagmar | If you get in a tiff with the Exchange admin, or you leave the organization, they can remote-wipe your phone. |
| 20:38.54 | Dagmar | Your ENTIRE phone. |
| 20:39.12 | Arrowmaster | Dagmar: i used a tool to edit the apk to remove its ability to do that |
| 20:39.23 | Dagmar | Also, this instruction is a wipe-on-boot kind of thing, so your phone will appear dead until such time as they remove that instruction from the system. |
| 20:39.27 | TC-work | google apps can do the same thing |
| 20:39.50 | Arrowmaster | i control my google apps domains though |
| 20:39.53 | Dagmar | Arrowmaster: Hmm... I didn't think about trying that |
| 20:44.58 | Arrowmaster | Dagmar: heres what i used on both the phone and tablet http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1117452 |
| 20:45.44 | Arrowmaster | oh speaking of tablets i got my replacement nexus7 today and now that i guess i have partially working internet i should look into why i didnt get a return label with it |
| 20:48.01 | Arrowmaster | ah it was emailed to me |
| 20:48.26 | Arrowmaster | and my printer is connected to the other wifi network righ tnow so i cant print |
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| 21:02.58 | zenzelezz | what is it about game tournaments and playing either 90s music? |
| 21:03.02 | zenzelezz | -either... |
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| 21:08.04 | foxlit | zenzelezz: 90s music = best music. |
| 21:08.47 | Neffi | http://imgur.com/gallery/GXbLRfn |
| 21:08.55 | Neffi | Cairenn: ^ |
| 21:09.13 | Unkle | 90s music? Seriously? The 80s kicked the 90s ass. |
| 21:09.17 | Cairenn | rofl |
| 21:09.35 | durcyn | opinions are like assholes, you should pour some bleach on yours. |
| 21:09.51 | Cairenn | whoa |
| 21:09.51 | foxlit | Unkle: for the purposes of this retort, the number does not matter. |
| 21:10.05 | Unkle | foxlit: This I will grant. |
| 21:10.52 | Neffi | Protip: all music eras suck. You'll just identify the era with the rarities which were most memorable to you and forget the overwhelming amount of shit you hated. |
| 21:11.25 | Unkle | Sturgeon's Law: 90% of everything is crap. |
| 21:11.40 | Neffi | I still contest that it's as low as 90%. |
| 21:11.41 | durcyn | Cairenn: referring to music of course, not shark cats. |
| 21:11.58 | Cairenn | I'm referring to bleach on assholes >< |
| 21:12.10 | Unkle | Roomba Cat-Sharks are the bomb-diggity. |
| 21:13.09 | Unkle | Seeing as I never plan to perform in porn, nor have my anus photographed for anything short of an autopsy photo (and thus will no longer give a shit) ... no bleach for me. |
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| 21:13.39 | TC-work | pun intended Unkle? |
| 21:13.40 | Cairenn | well, actually, you will give a shit at least once after you die :p |
| 21:13.47 | Unkle | TC-work: Natrually |
| 21:13.52 | TC-work | I hate you |
| 21:14.37 | Unkle | Winning the internet, one hate-fueled moment at a time. |
| 21:14.53 | Neffi | easy there tiger blood |
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| 21:16.04 | pompy1 | http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-204_162-57589423/japanese-eyeball-licking-trend-carries-blindness-risk/ .... |
| 21:16.35 | zenzelezz | I'd o_O, but... Japan |
| 21:16.51 | Dagmar | Breathing in public is not without risk. |
| 21:17.02 | Unkle | I wonder if someone saw that in animae and thought "I'd love to try that." |
| 21:17.18 | Dagmar | At least in this case, it's probably not much worse than the usual bodily fluid transfer as long as you're not letting a cat lick your eyeballs. |
| 21:17.49 | Unkle | Dagmar: Increased risk of pink eye... which when you really think about it ... ewwwwwww |
| 21:17.51 | Neffi | Why I imagine Blizz put Pandaren rogues in the game: http://i.imgur.com/dyN72lq.png |
| 21:17.58 | zenzelezz | I guess it depends what you've been doing with your tongue beforehand |
| 21:18.30 | zenzelezz | Neffi: lol |
| 21:20.46 | Dagmar | Unkle: yes but remember that "increased risk" starts at asmptotically just above zero. |
| 21:21.04 | Dagmar | If you're letting random strangers lick your eyeball, you're just a whore and you get what you deserve. |
| 21:21.32 | pompy1 | https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151499678827705&set=a.10150170632837705.289106.168295667704&type=1 lol |
| 21:21.50 | Unkle | I'm not sure whore is the right word there. Fetishist might night be more accurate. |
| 21:22.40 | nevcairiel | i wonder why everyone is so amazed by the fact that the demo systems are fake, i thought that was common knowledge :p |
| 21:25.05 | durcyn | nevcairiel: the only valid complaint i can see is that the dev kit was running on windows 7 instead of 8? |
| 21:25.55 | Neffi | "There's got to be better ways to do things," Noecker said. "I would recommend that people find another outlet that won't compromise their vision in the long term." |
| 21:26.03 | Neffi | That article recommended teens have more blowjobs |
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| 21:28.06 | TC-work | durcyn: I don't even see that as a valid complaint. |
| 21:28.34 | TC-work | I read an entire article about that and it was total bs. |
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| 21:29.17 | Neffi | It might be considered common, but it's still disingenuous, which is why people are outraged every time |
| 21:30.22 | TC-work | They have two choices, use that, or use an actual console. |
| 21:31.35 | durcyn | it's hardly deceptive. running pre-release code on anything other than a dev kit is problematic. |
| 21:31.56 | Neffi | "Here, play our new console! See these incredible graphics! Look how smooth it all is!" "wait a second, this is not only not your console, but its components are much higher-end. you're totally lying to me" |
| 21:33.35 | nebula169 | also using nvidia cpus instead of amd, which the xbox one will have |
| 21:33.39 | nebula169 | gpus** |
| 21:34.06 | nebula169 | but yea, demos have always run on pcs instead of the actual console, but people gotta cry about something |
| 21:35.21 | TC-work | Except I'm sure that it was developed on nvidia cards. They are more stable in windows. But, no let's go drop in some untested amd cards to run them on because people are whiny bitches. |
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| 21:36.13 | TC-work | It was also mentioned that the system is going to me using custom amd stuff. Not necessarily things that can be dropped onto a standard atx mobo. |
| 21:36.40 | TC-work | s/me/be/ |
| 21:36.48 | TC-work | ...*sigh* |
| 21:37.00 | durcyn | gosh, regex much |
| 21:37.25 | TC-work | meh, paying attention is for losers. |
| 21:41.24 | pompy1 | http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/329517658/stealth-bar ,,, w t f |
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| 21:43.37 | Unkle | pompy1: English is not the strong suit of the project poster. |
| 21:43.53 | pompy1 | nope, they are Russian maybe? |
| 21:44.36 | pompy1 | the video is funny. |
| 21:45.00 | Unkle | Maybe. But oy, reading that made my brain hurt. |
| 21:46.49 | Neffi | Russian dude: invents a remote control that opens his beer and doubles as a projectile |
| 21:47.00 | zenzelezz | you know that can't be the case |
| 21:47.06 | zenzelezz | vodka bottles don't use bottle caps |
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| 21:47.25 | Neffi | maybe he's in AA |
| 21:47.39 | Neffi | he has to lay off anything >=80 proof |
| 21:47.56 | zenzelezz | hm, that's a possibility |
| 21:48.44 | Unkle | It's also inwisibal to ehnemy RADAR |
| 21:48.49 | Torhal | I'm so happy Amarande is keeping the ranting monologues in #wowhead - I rarely pay attention there. |
| 21:49.23 | zenzelezz | now that you mention it, haven't see him lately... did he stop hanging out here? |
| 21:49.42 | Torhal | He stopped playing WoW again, so stopped hanging out here again. |
| 21:49.56 | Torhal | He started playing D3 so somehow that means he has to hang out in #wowhead. |
| 21:49.59 | Torhal | No idea. |
| 21:50.52 | durcyn | don't say his name, you'll summon him |
| 21:51.15 | Gnarfoz | pompy1: I'm getting 5 of those! :D invisible remote ftw |
| 21:52.28 | Gnarfoz | Torhal: oh. that's why tecnobrat seems to be talking to himself :D |
| 21:52.32 | Neffi | best GIFs ever http://imgur.com/gallery/jSad5 |
| 21:52.34 | pompy1 | damn that guy torhal still hangs around here? |
| 21:52.46 | Torhal | nerfs pompy1. |
| 21:53.24 | pompy1 | http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/06/17/oculus-rift-erotic-adventure-game-announced?abthid=51bf802bfad897886500000c haha nicee. :O |
| 21:53.35 | kd3 | it took this long? |
| 21:54.53 | p3lim | Anyone know of some php script/plugin that creates thumbnails on demand if they don't exist in X dir? |
| 21:57.30 | phelps | p3lim: thats easy to do |
| 21:57.43 | phelps | easier than trying to find a pre-made solution |
| 21:58.57 | p3lim | Not that into php really, what I have right now is a small thing to iterate over current pictures and display them (html), but I want a way for the script to generate thumbnails in a subdir if they don't already exist there |
| 22:01.51 | p3lim | If you want to help it would be appreciated :) |
| 22:02.04 | p3lim | Currently browsing around to find something like this |
| 22:06.43 | durcyn | there are any number of php gallery packages out there |
| 22:09.28 | Gnarfoz | are you looking for a gallery type thing? |
| 22:10.15 | Gnarfoz | if so, I found this one pretty simple: http://sye.dk/sfpg/ |
| 22:10.28 | kd3 | hook in to a 404 handler? |
| 22:15.20 | Unkle | http://www.wired.com/business/2013/06/google_internet_balloons/all/ - at last aerostats getting some respect. |
| 22:16.59 | phelps | kd3: nah, no hooks |
| 22:17.10 | phelps | p3lim: i can throw something together |
| 22:18.40 | p3lim | This is how it looks like right now: http://p3lim.net/wow/ |
| 22:18.50 | phelps | I see |
| 22:18.51 | p3lim | Premade thumbnails, which is what I want to avoid |
| 22:18.52 | Torhal | Interesting. Renewed WoW on the 14th. Just got a popup saying my Game Time would expire in 30 minutes... |
| 22:20.01 | phelps | p3lim: I wanted to make a web thing for my SS's so this is a equally useful script for me |
| 22:20.07 | Constie | I clicked a random picture and your targettarget's name is "Kamelåså" and that's wonderful. |
| 22:20.27 | p3lim | lol |
| 22:21.58 | phelps | p3lim: is that a package or just ouf and hidden bars ? |
| 22:22.17 | p3lim | Which picture? |
| 22:22.28 | phelps | target dummy one |
| 22:22.32 | phelps | http://p3lim.net/wow/183303.jpg |
| 22:22.35 | phelps | its more than just ouf |
| 22:22.39 | phelps | but is it a packaged setup |
| 22:22.58 | p3lim | oUF_P3lim for unitframes, oBindings fork for bars (yes, hidden) |
| 22:23.07 | p3lim | The two "buttons" are cooldown icons |
| 22:23.25 | nebula169 | Torhal: i had that happen to me, counted down to like 12, then just kind of stuck there, popped up everytime i logged out |
| 22:23.36 | nebula169 | logged on* |
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| 22:23.58 | p3lim | This is the most recent picture: http://p3lim.net/wow/180118.jpg |
| 22:24.10 | p3lim | I've gone away from oBindings due to casual-ness |
| 22:24.35 | phelps | I really like that |
| 22:25.00 | Torhal | nebula169: :/ |
| 22:25.31 | p3lim | Everything you see there you can find on my github |
| 22:25.45 | phelps | p3lim: does a PHP script create the current page ? |
| 22:26.09 | p3lim | Yeah |
| 22:26.41 | p3lim | http://pastebin.com/hsYT06iP |
| 22:27.24 | foxlit | $filename === '*.php' |
| 22:27.32 | p3lim | Yeah I have no clue what I'm doing |
| 22:27.33 | p3lim | :D |
| 22:27.44 | phelps | thats pretty good :p |
| 22:27.49 | phelps | what you need is glob |
| 22:28.00 | phelps | glob('*.jpg') |
| 22:28.19 | phelps | not really PHP, glob is a unix tool |
| 22:28.30 | phelps | php just makes use of the same name and functionality |
| 22:31.18 | p3lim | Oh glob is great |
| 22:31.41 | p3lim | Makes most of my 3 hour derping obsolete |
| 22:31.58 | phelps | haha |
| 22:35.29 | Constie | Thank you for publishing your oUF layout, by the way, p3lim! I use PitBull for my regular unit frames, but it still doesn't do anything to the default boss frames for some reason, so my raids would be a lot uglier if it weren't for you. |
| 22:37.13 | p3lim | :) |
| 22:39.27 | phelps | p3lim: using apache ? |
| 22:39.33 | phelps | if you don't know, prob. are |
| 22:40.17 | p3lim | v2.2.24 |
| 22:42.41 | p3lim | There we go, glob used and live |
| 22:42.53 | phelps | p3lim: |
| 22:43.00 | phelps | I've almost got it all rewritten |
| 22:43.03 | phelps | shouldn't have |
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| 22:43.10 | p3lim | Fun to play with anyways |
| 22:45.23 | Neffi | Semlar: My mysterious event bug has yet to show up since refactoring the code into a non-embeddable lib. I hate when shit like that happens. |
| 22:45.51 | p3lim | Still have the issue with DebugTools btw, probably some error but the error frame is hidden too >_> |
| 22:45.53 | Neffi | It's like somebody's telling me "you're a fine coder, but you're terrible at implementing things" |
| 22:45.56 | p3lim | Gotta get buggrabber to see |
| 22:46.22 | Neffi | Oh now I recall the error frame can fail to show any errors that happen too soon in the load sequence |
| 22:46.46 | Neffi | A manual reload after the initial login will usually catch the additional errors |
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| 22:54.47 | Neffi | Anyone know some good IEMs under $200? Preferably low-impedance, running amp-less off a Clip+. |
| 22:55.31 | Neffi | My 2nd pair of Thinksound ts02 IEMs is getting rattle in the driver. I need something that'll hold up better. |
| 22:56.08 | Mr_Rabies | i know some of those words |
| 22:56.56 | Neffi | In-ear-monitors, EG high-end, sealing earbuds |
| 22:56.57 | phelps | p3lim: I'm adding aspect ratio rules |
| 22:57.06 | phelps | so you can have diff size SS's |
| 22:57.13 | phelps | and get ok looking thumbnails |
| 22:57.13 | p3lim | Cool |
| 22:57.21 | p3lim | Some are 16:9, some 16:10 |
| 22:57.25 | phelps | yeah |
| 23:03.14 | phelps | p3lim |
| 23:03.14 | phelps | http://benphelps.me/wow/ |
| 23:03.18 | phelps | http://benphelps.me/wow/thumbnail.php?image=WoWScrnShot_051813_152407.jpeg |
| 23:03.38 | p3lim | Looks good |
| 23:03.40 | phelps | http://benphelps.me/wow/thumbnails/WoWScrnShot_051813_152407.jpeg |
| 23:03.44 | phelps | is the actual file |
| 23:03.57 | p3lim | Yeah |
| 23:04.07 | p3lim | Same syntax as the lib I looked at earlier |
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| 23:04.18 | p3lim | So I understand how it works (sort of) |
| 23:04.31 | phelps | https://gist.github.com/benphelps/abf11cb10484273331c6 |
| 23:04.35 | phelps | ohh |
| 23:04.37 | phelps | change jpeg to jpg |
| 23:04.39 | phelps | in the glob |
| 23:04.53 | p3lim | Yeah |
| 23:05.16 | p3lim | I'll stare intensely at this for a few minutes to see how it works |
| 23:05.24 | p3lim | Thanks btw :) |
| 23:05.36 | phelps | didn't do much |
| 23:05.37 | phelps | http://snipplr.com/view.php?codeview&id=753 |
| 23:05.41 | phelps | coders are lazy af |
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| 23:06.52 | phelps | that could look a lot nicer |
| 23:06.56 | phelps | with a .htaccess file |
| 23:07.02 | phelps | but I use nginx and can't test it |
| 23:07.09 | phelps | sooo |
| 23:07.13 | phelps | doesn't matter much tbh |
| 23:10.14 | phelps | p3lim: thats a shitty way to do it |
| 23:10.16 | phelps | I'm sorry |
| 23:10.20 | phelps | let me try using redirection |
| 23:10.22 | phelps | instead of print |
| 23:10.31 | p3lim | hurr? |
| 23:11.41 | phelps | yeah ok |
| 23:11.42 | phelps | that works |
| 23:11.44 | phelps | haha |
| 23:12.09 | phelps | https://gist.github.com/benphelps/6f8fa6c4de764b0f6f3e |
| 23:12.10 | phelps | there |
| 23:12.13 | phelps | use that instead |
| 23:12.15 | phelps | its faster |
| 23:12.20 | phelps | used HTTP redirects |
| 23:12.28 | phelps | instead of the php serving the file |
| 23:16.06 | phelps | http://benphelps.me/wow/ |
| 23:16.07 | phelps | yay |
| 23:16.13 | phelps | works for any odd sized iamge |
| 23:16.19 | phelps | s/iamge/image/ |
| 23:16.44 | phelps | NAH |
| 23:16.45 | p3lim | I'm used to <?php ?>, but I see you use <?=?> |
| 23:16.50 | p3lim | What's the difference? |
| 23:17.00 | phelps | its <?php echo ;?> |
| 23:17.03 | phelps | <?=?> |
| 23:17.04 | phelps | is the same |
| 23:17.07 | p3lim | Ah cool |
| 23:17.12 | TC-work | image vs. iMage, oh apple, how you have ruined us. |
| 23:17.31 | phelps | <? ?> is short open tags |
| 23:17.40 | phelps | and = lets it know you just want to get the value |
| 23:17.53 | zenzelezz | iMage, sounds like a bad(er) version of I Robot |
| 23:18.05 | phelps | bad(er) |
| 23:18.06 | phelps | lol |
| 23:19.12 | phelps | p3lim: php is my day job, so if you ever got questions im usually here |
| 23:19.24 | p3lim | Good to know |
| 23:22.16 | p3lim | This is really interesting |
| 23:22.39 | p3lim | Might be able to finish my paste page too with this info |
| 23:29.06 | pompy1 | Torhal: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=634596266570375&set=a.133548883341785.20130.133409023355771&type=1 |
| 23:30.07 | TC-work | Have i5's never had HT? |
| 23:30.37 | phelps | don't think so |
| 23:32.46 | phelps | p3lim: whats that chat mod |
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| 23:33.41 | p3lim | Gibberish |
| 23:33.51 | p3lim | What does header() do? |
| 23:33.59 | phelps | let you set an HTTP header |
| 23:34.30 | phelps | :| |
| 23:34.31 | nightcracker_ | :( php |
| 23:34.37 | phelps | is that not pMinimap |
| 23:34.40 | phelps | I was so sure it had to have been |
| 23:34.42 | phelps | lol |
| 23:35.13 | p3lim | I ditched pMinimap a few years ago |
| 23:35.26 | p3lim | Week after I did I made a small minimap addon called "Relief" |
| 23:35.31 | phelps | ohh god damn |
| 23:35.37 | phelps | github went and got sexy |
| 23:36.03 | p3lim | Can I see an error log for php somewhere? |
| 23:36.10 | phelps | uhh |
| 23:36.19 | phelps | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:36.20 | phelps | or |
| 23:36.26 | phelps | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:36.27 | phelps | or |
| 23:36.28 | Semlar | it would output warnings on the page unless you have them suppressed |
| 23:36.38 | phelps | display_warnings = On |
| 23:36.42 | phelps | in your PHP ini |
| 23:36.57 | phelps | I mean |
| 23:37.02 | phelps | display_errors = On |
| 23:37.49 | p3lim | No idea where it is, gaah |
| 23:38.19 | phelps | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:38.25 | phelps | if you have server access |
| 23:38.30 | phelps | if its shared hosting |
| 23:38.33 | phelps | no idea |
| 23:38.42 | p3lim | that dir is about empty |
| 23:38.45 | Semlar | well you can do it on a per file basis |
| 23:38.52 | phelps | yeah |
| 23:39.10 | Semlar | it's like error_reporting(-1) or something |
| 23:39.10 | phelps | that lets you set error reporting |
| 23:39.15 | phelps | but if display errors is off |
| 23:39.18 | phelps | it does no good |
| 23:39.25 | Semlar | ini_set('display_errors', 1) |
| 23:39.36 | phelps | assuming thats open (shared hosting) |
| 23:39.46 | pompy1 | https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151709015520421&set=a.165430260420.157522.39537220420&type=1 |
| 23:39.47 | phelps | worth a shot |
| 23:40.05 | p3lim | just have no idea where to do all that |
| 23:40.12 | p3lim | browsing through the filesystem right now |
| 23:40.19 | Semlar | you can put that in the php file |
| 23:40.57 | p3lim | Is that a global setting? |
| 23:41.06 | p3lim | As in, if I remove that line does it revert? |
| 23:41.16 | Semlar | as far as i know it's only for that file when it runs |
| 23:41.28 | Semlar | otherwise you'll need to set it in the ini file |
| 23:41.42 | p3lim | Got some errors now atleast |
| 23:42.48 | p3lim | Don't think I have write access |
| 23:43.05 | Semlar | you may have to chmod the directory |
| 23:43.26 | Semlar | you should be able to change the permissions |
| 23:43.54 | Semlar | even on a shared host |
| 23:44.57 | p3lim | I need a bit more to go on than that :p |
| 23:45.04 | p3lim | I know jack about this stuff |
| 23:45.15 | Semlar | okay uh |
| 23:45.34 | Semlar | does the host have a way to browse your files through a web panel or something |
| 23:45.42 | p3lim | Yea |
| 23:45.52 | p3lim | I'm using cPanel btw |
| 23:45.55 | Semlar | oh okay |
| 23:46.06 | Semlar | when you select a directory there's a way to change is permissions |
| 23:46.14 | p3lim | Correct |
| 23:46.25 | Semlar | user should have write access |
| 23:46.32 | p3lim | It has |
| 23:46.43 | Semlar | i really don't remember what all the numbers are any more |
| 23:46.48 | Semlar | 644 or something |
| 23:47.13 | p3lim | You mean the three numbers below User, Group and World? |
| 23:47.52 | Semlar | the privelages are like bitfields and they add up |
| 23:48.15 | p3lim | I can't change them anyways |
| 23:48.18 | Semlar | 6 should be read and write |
| 23:48.24 | Semlar | 7 is full access |
| 23:48.40 | p3lim | Ah yeah I get it now |
| 23:49.48 | Semlar | i think the script falls under user but i'm not really sure |
| 23:50.02 | Semlar | the owner of the file, you |
| 23:50.47 | p3lim | Parse error: syntax error, unexpected T_ISSET in /home/p3limne/public_html/wow/thumbnail.php on line 7 |
| 23:50.58 | Semlar | you probably just typed something wrong |
| 23:51.27 | Semlar | what's around the line |
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| 23:52.17 | p3lim | Yeah typy, sublime autocorrected me :/ |
| 23:52.21 | p3lim | typo* |
| 23:52.55 | phelps | p3lim: aight |
| 23:52.58 | phelps | I give up |
| 23:53.02 | p3lim | Huh |
| 23:53.06 | kd3 | it's amazing how far phones have come in ~15 years: http://kaydeethree.net/i/phones.jpg |
| 23:53.18 | phelps | trying to copy your UI |
| 23:53.22 | p3lim | :p |
| 23:53.25 | phelps | without bugging you about each addon |
| 23:53.46 | phelps | I've made it no where |
| 23:54.14 | phelps | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/19145606/Screenshots/aoss.png |
| 23:55.59 | kd3 | I'm pretty sure the first one weighs as much as the rest combined |
| 23:56.20 | Semlar | also most shared hosts i've used allow you to just drop a php.ini file in either the root directory as the main config or on a per directory basis |
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| 23:56.37 | Semlar | it might be a setting in cpanel |
| 23:57.10 | phelps | or via .htaccess files |
| 23:57.19 | phelps | most php directives can be set there as well |
| 23:57.34 | Semlar | actually i haven't been able to set php directives inside of an htaccess file on some shared hosts |
| 23:57.51 | Semlar | probably depends on the host |
| 23:58.09 | foxlit | http://www.reddit.com/r/math/comments/1gidre/the_devils_chessboard/ << I think the problem statement could be a bit better, but it's a nice and trivial puzzle. |
| 23:58.19 | Semlar | it might depend on how they're running php too |
| 23:58.42 | nightcracker_ | once you've had VPS you don't want anything else anymore |
| 23:58.48 | phelps | ^^ |
| 23:58.55 | phelps | Linode ftw |
