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| 00:12.52 | Neffi | Hmm. New iOS interface looks strikingly similar to some draft designs from a few open-source sources. |
| 00:13.17 | Neffi | It looks like a mashup of MeeGo/Moblin/Tizen designs and some stuff Samsung has hinted at. |
| 00:13.31 | Neffi | Who's stealing design cues now? >_> |
| 00:16.00 | Ackis | what was the best thing announced at E3 so far? |
| 00:16.08 | Ackis | I only caught half the ubisoft one |
| 00:16.22 | TC-work | 'Best' is subjective. |
| 00:16.27 | Neffi | Shit, I forgot. I gotta catch a liveblog or something. |
| 00:16.46 | TC-work | Sony's starts now or 6 |
| 00:16.48 | TC-work | can't remmber |
| 00:17.14 | TC-work | 6 pm |
| 00:17.20 | TC-work | pst |
| 00:17.25 | Ackis | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DmoZAPDV3ew |
| 00:17.27 | Ackis | sony ^ |
| 00:17.30 | Ackis | 12 minutes it says |
| 00:22.04 | Ackis | looking at the recaps, plants vs zombie garden warefare, battlefront 3 and the tom clancy game seem interesting |
| 00:22.38 | Ackis | andd someone in my guild said something about the mighty quest |
| 00:23.46 | TC-work | Ackis: everything I see says 6PM PDT |
| 00:24.21 | Ackis | TC-work: it might be their stream goes live with a pregame show |
| 00:27.39 | Neffi | Hmm. New Mac Pro looks ingenious from a thermal point of view. Even if it is basically a garbage can. |
| 00:28.01 | Neffi | http://arstechnica.com/apple/2013/06/the-new-mac-pro-you-cant-buy-it-yet-but-you-can-look/ |
| 00:29.06 | xyphoid | start getting r2d2 legs for it manufactured now |
| 00:29.15 | TC-work | My issue with it is lack of expandability. |
| 00:29.42 | TC-work | And it fails on a carpet |
| 00:30.11 | Neffi | Well I wouldn't go buying it even with the money, but I admit I like the thermal wind-tunnel design |
| 00:30.21 | Neffi | It gives me ideas, and makes the engineer in me smile |
| 00:31.22 | TC-work | Hmmm...Mating that with a dyson air blade would be interesting |
| 00:31.42 | Neffi | LOL |
| 00:34.05 | MysticalOS2 | http://arstechnica.com/apple/2013/06/the-new-mac-pro-you-cant-buy-it-yet-but-you-can-look/#image-4 clearly got it's design inspiration from http://www.overstock.com/Office-Supplies/Black-3-quart-Step-Open-Trash-Can/3147575/product.html |
| 00:35.06 | TC-work | I am fairly sure that is going to make people move away from mac pro's commercially. |
| 00:35.16 | MysticalOS2 | images are already spawning over internet |
| 00:35.17 | MysticalOS2 | http://25.media.tumblr.com/943397fb205b424e33e47a75f6c090b8/tumblr_mo70dp0KnS1spnm0ro1_500.gif |
| 00:37.46 | MysticalOS2 | i want this case http://forums.macrumors.com/showpost.php?p=17388219&postcount=39 |
| 00:38.57 | MysticalOS2 | http://forums.macrumors.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=416378&d=1370902794 heh |
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| 01:53.59 | Neffi | this Sony/PS4 livestream is the worst "720p" I've ever seen |
| 02:14.31 | Ackis | is this still accurate for monks: http://www.wowpedia.org/Starting_a_monk#Heirlooms |
| 02:19.28 | Neffi | Cinnamon on Fedora 18 - pretty damn buggy. =( |
| 02:23.55 | Arrowmaster | i use cinnamon on debian jessie |
| 02:24.53 | Neffi | Xfce actually looks rather nice lately. I'm trying that out and seeing how flexible the setup is. |
| 02:25.32 | Neffi | I really like the taskbar+start-style-menu paradigm of Cinnamon, and the edge-snap tiling is something I really miss from Windows. Xfce supports that now. This makes me happy. |
| 02:26.43 | Neffi | Cinnamon is beautiful and its setup is almost perfectly what I want in theory, but it's buggy on Fedora; it works perfectly on Mint, but Mint itself seems buggy as hell (at least on my hardware). |
| 02:27.41 | xyphoid | that's a shame, it's been great on my laptop |
| 02:28.13 | xyphoid | (once i replaced the totally shot HDD - no wonder windows was grinding on it) |
| 02:29.33 | Neffi | I don't know if it's Sandy Bridge, but the performance seems great until I get into heavy usage. Tons of pauses, freezes and annoyances. And windows were opening up scaled to 1/4th of my screen when maximized. Ie, it would only appear to cover the top-left portion of the screen, but mouse input acted as if it were fullscreened. |
| 02:30.06 | Neffi | Their settings dialogs and shit also seem to become a mess when you start switching out their applications for what you prefer |
| 02:30.23 | xyphoid | ah that resizing thing I ran into |
| 02:30.28 | xyphoid | I think it was a known bug when I went poking |
| 02:31.07 | Neffi | Mint didn't seem very professional when I tried its early versions. People brag about it, so I gave it another shot. I went into it uneasy, and after that I'd rather go with somebody more professionally developed, instead of just fixing the bugs. |
| 02:31.34 | kd3 | alright, back home |
| 02:35.14 | kd3 | let's see what to get caught up on |
| 02:37.42 | Neffi | Does the Chrome RPM package for Fedora include the integrated Pepper Flash player? |
| 02:37.48 | kd3 | yes |
| 02:37.56 | Neffi | awesome. |
| 02:38.08 | kd3 | ./really/ annoyed that google doesn't provide delta rpms for chrome |
| 02:38.20 | Neffi | delta rpms? |
| 02:38.54 | Neffi | Ah. What's the problem with just installing a new RPM over the old? |
| 02:39.05 | kd3 | instead of shipping the same 60MB rpm when only a tiny portion of it changed, they just ship the delta between the two |
| 02:39.35 | kd3 | much less crap to download, which is great, now that I'm back home and reminded of my crap net connection |
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| 02:40.35 | Neffi | If you leave your machine on, why don't you just whip up an overnight install script with chron? Surely it can't take longer to download and install than you sleep for |
| 02:41.14 | Neffi | Daily updates, and you could even issue a post-install sleep command so your comp isn't sucking electricity |
| 02:42.29 | Arrowmaster | Cairenn: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=HZIW6nOeEIk |
| 02:43.48 | Neffi | Arrowmaster: She scratched =( |
| 02:44.24 | Cairenn | awwwww |
| 02:47.07 | Cairenn | that was cute |
| 02:48.07 | Arrowmaster | im sideloading one game onto my ouya and its memory is going to be full now |
| 02:48.22 | Arrowmaster | 5gb for apps was way too little |
| 02:56.15 | Adys | i was going to bed and i opened a tvtropes article to make a point |
| 02:56.16 | Adys | now im stuck |
| 02:56.18 | Adys | shit |
| 02:56.30 | kd3 | quick, quick, alt+f4 |
| 02:56.36 | Adys | making everyone feel my pain is the only thing that will get me to sleep soundly |
| 02:56.38 | Adys | http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/PokeThePoodle |
| 02:56.39 | Adys | bye. |
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| 03:29.39 | Arrowmaster | so yeah apparently sony just killed microsoft |
| 03:30.04 | kd3 | did they announce the price? |
| 03:30.46 | Kraps | 399 kd3 |
| 03:30.56 | Arrowmaster | same as xbone, no used game drm |
| 03:31.15 | Kraps | no dude xbone is 499 |
| 03:31.16 | Arrowmaster | ps+ is going to be required for multiplayer though |
| 03:31.41 | Arrowmaster | yeah cheaper than xbone |
| 03:32.15 | Arrowmaster | my only problem now is that my PS account isnt my proper handle |
| 03:32.30 | Motig | can't you get that changed |
| 03:32.32 | Motig | by calling them or something |
| 03:32.50 | Arrowmaster | i did call when i tried to create it, PS phone support is the worst shit ever |
| 03:33.51 | Arrowmaster | morons knew nothing at all, i was getting an error saying invalid character or improper length or something and they knew nothing at all, couldnt even tell me if Arrowmaster was already taken and i was just getting the wrong error |
| 03:34.48 | Arrowmaster | but yeah either microsoft is going to backpeddle and change a lot of shit or they just failed bigtime |
| 03:35.33 | Arrowmaster | we shale see how the stocks look tomorrow morning |
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| 03:39.22 | Thunder_Child | ~ping |
| 03:39.22 | purl | ~pong |
| 03:40.41 | Constie | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWSIFh8ICaA |
| 03:41.01 | Ressy | Still think thats hilarious. |
| 03:41.14 | Ressy | Also, Constie? Priest from Tanaris, or another Constie? |
| 03:41.31 | Constie | Good morning! |
| 03:42.06 | Constie | (Yes, hi, ♥.) |
| 03:42.21 | kd3 | oh, geez. sony's going to have to actively screw things up to not win this generation |
| 03:42.28 | Ressy | pretty much. |
| 03:42.51 | Ressy | Sony: no rape jokes, 399, draws less power than xbox one, sharing games, no online every 24 hrs.. |
| 03:43.28 | Ressy | Constie, you remember me? Val? |
| 03:44.05 | Constie | From the other guild, yeah! |
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| 03:48.29 | Kraps | http://youtu.be/2Ht-0Hne4EU |
| 03:50.50 | Arrowmaster | yeah i still hate PSN though |
| 03:51.05 | Arrowmaster | double checked and you are not allowed to change your name |
| 03:51.22 | Arrowmaster | tried to create a new one and get "The Online ID must contain alphanumeric characters, can include underscores or dashes and must be between 3 and 16 characters in length. The first character must be a letter of the alphabet." when i put in Arrowmaster |
| 03:51.55 | Arrowmaster | if i put in my other id i get "This Online ID is already taken." so they are actively blocking my name for some reason |
| 03:54.09 | Kraps | https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BMcw9kiCMAANA1L.png:large |
| 03:54.41 | Ressy | snickers |
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| 04:00.40 | Shirik | lmfao |
| 04:00.40 | Shirik | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWSIFh8ICaA |
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| 04:28.10 | Fisker | that is intense Shirik |
| 04:29.05 | Fisker | i can barely breathe |
| 04:29.18 | Fisker | even if it is old |
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| 04:38.48 | Fisker | Shirik |
| 04:38.56 | Fisker | did you hear you didn't see the new call of duty coming? |
| 04:39.03 | Fisker | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxRf90LWK9c |
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| 05:31.46 | Grivvel | Has anyone in here worked with making an alternative to the authenticator? I seem to remember someone making an android app |
| 05:32.13 | Semlar | i wrote one in python once |
| 05:32.51 | Semlar | check out http://code.google.com/p/winauth/ |
| 05:34.23 | Grivvel | Semlar: Any chance you have the code hosted somewhere for your python version? I'm interested in seeing a clean one. (I'm looking at getting a working authenticator on my pebble watch...) |
| 05:34.51 | Semlar | the core part of it i ripped out of something else |
| 05:35.00 | Semlar | i'm trying to remember where |
| 05:37.16 | Semlar | i think it was this https://github.com/Adys/python-bna |
| 05:38.12 | Fisker | Already exists an android app |
| 05:38.21 | Fisker | Flexauth |
| 05:38.29 | Semlar | i've heard people argue that it's "not secure" to run the authenticator on the same computer as the game, but since you're typing the number into the game i really don't see the difference |
| 05:39.07 | Semlar | i guess they could steal the entire authenticator |
| 05:39.32 | Fisker | Because the computer has the key easily accessible |
| 05:39.42 | Fisker | And that |
| 05:39.47 | Grivvel | Semlar: It really isn't secure. Another program could easily steal the secret |
| 05:39.58 | Semlar | right, but they could intercept the keys you're putting into the game |
| 05:40.05 | Semlar | so if you're infected it makes no difference |
| 05:40.16 | Fisker | It does |
| 05:40.44 | Grivvel | Semlar: Awesome, that looks perfect for my purposes. Thanks! :D |
| 05:40.46 | Semlar | the only difference is if they could steal the entire authenticator and tie it to your account |
| 05:40.55 | Fisker | Keylogger can be stopped, the stolen secret can't |
| 05:41.09 | Semlar | well you can generate a new one |
| 05:41.09 | Grivvel | Semlar: If they steal the code you type in, they have 30 seconds to log in to your account. If they steal the secret, they can log in whenever they like |
| 05:41.31 | Fisker | Yes if you know |
| 05:42.16 | Semlar | still, it's fairly unlikely that your authenticator secret is going to get stolen out of a program you wrote yourself |
| 05:42.17 | Fisker | The Keylogger only works as long you are using the system |
| 05:42.52 | Fisker | Authenticator works until you are able to remove it |
| 05:44.59 | Grivvel | Semlar: You're right, it's unlikely. I think we're opposed to security through obscurity out of principle, but I doubt any of the hackers would spend the time to figure out where your secret is hidden. |
| 05:45.12 | Grivvel | Semlar: Although as some of those programs become more popular... |
| 05:45.48 | Semlar | my game has more security on it than my bank account |
| 05:45.56 | Shirik | time to get a new bank account? |
| 05:46.34 | Semlar | it does seem odd that they still use a 4 digit pin system |
| 05:47.24 | Shirik | ~serveralert |
| 05:47.26 | Shirik | ~alert |
| 05:47.26 | purl | I'm falling asleep listening to you boring morons... |
| 05:47.30 | Shirik | omg |
| 05:47.41 | Shirik | wtf is the factoid for the url for server alerts |
| 05:47.50 | Shirik | ~status |
| 05:47.50 | purl | Since Thu Jun 6 15:15:08 2013, there have been 10 modifications, 187 questions, 0 dunnos, 0 morons and 77 commands. I have been awake for 4d 14h 32m 42s this session, and currently reference 119070 factoids. I'm using about 33556 kB of memory. With 0 active forks. Process time user/system 1279.86/23.59 child 0/0 |
| 05:48.00 | Shirik | ~wowalert |
| 05:48.00 | purl | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US); http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) [NB: Returns empty content unless there is an active alert] |
| 05:48.02 | Shirik | yay |
| 05:48.48 | Semlar | is purl supposed to actually parse those |
| 05:53.24 | Shirik | no |
| 05:53.40 | Shirik | I wrote a bot that parses it a long time ago but it wasn't particularly useful |
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| 05:57.40 | Fisker | hey Shirik |
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| 06:23.53 | Fisker | hey Shirik |
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| 06:48.02 | bleeter | joins in |
| 06:48.05 | bleeter | hey Shirik |
| 06:55.21 | Shirik | hey bleeter |
| 06:55.22 | Shirik | hey Fisker |
| 06:55.43 | zenzio | hey Shirik |
| 06:55.59 | Shirik | hey zenzelezz |
| 06:56.02 | Shirik | also hey zenzio |
| 06:56.17 | zenzio | thanks, from both of me |
| 06:57.36 | Fisker | hey Shirik |
| 07:03.02 | bleeter | hey Shirik |
| 07:07.08 | phelps | YO |
| 07:07.24 | phelps | anyone wanna tell me just how bad this is and maybe give me some tips to make it better http://codepad.org/9sOKL8rK |
| 07:10.05 | Shirik | bed time |
| 07:10.29 | Shirik | phelps: `while 1 do` the fuck is that |
| 07:10.39 | Semlar | phelps just use gmatch for splitting a string |
| 07:10.54 | phelps | Semlar: it works just like the built in wow string split |
| 07:10.58 | phelps | thats all I care |
| 07:11.13 | Shirik | we need to teach you about these things called boolean variables |
| 07:11.16 | Shirik | they're pretty cool |
| 07:11.19 | phelps | wow lua DOES have strsplit |
| 07:11.29 | phelps | what ? |
| 07:11.40 | phelps | ignore the strsplit function |
| 07:11.42 | Shirik | you keep using `1` everywhere instead of `true` |
| 07:11.44 | phelps | thats copypasta |
| 07:11.46 | Shirik | oh |
| 07:11.48 | Shirik | well then yell at that guy |
| 07:11.50 | Semlar | what are we supposed to be looking at |
| 07:11.56 | phelps | Code starts here |
| 07:12.01 | phelps | is a pretty decent hint |
| 07:12.11 | Shirik | I generally read from top down |
| 07:12.21 | Semlar | well back to not caring |
| 07:13.15 | Shirik | having a global function `parse` seems like a really bad idea |
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| 07:14.42 | Shirik | this code seems very repetitive |
| 07:15.10 | Shirik | I would do it as `if size >= 1` `if size >= 2` and so forth |
| 07:20.40 | Neffi__ | phelps: `function n` -> `local function n` |
| 07:20.46 | Neffi__ | stop polluting |
| 07:21.04 | phelps | haha, I wouldn't use it like that in my addon |
| 07:21.18 | phelps | it would be part of my single global |
| 07:21.56 | phelps | I'm just trying to write a string based DSL |
| 07:22.00 | phelps | so people can write custom rotations |
| 07:22.08 | phelps | for a FaceRoller type addon |
| 07:22.15 | Neffi__ | I'm tired. Tell me what you're trying to achieve instead of having me discern your code. |
| 07:22.15 | phelps | that doesn't require you to write Lua |
| 07:25.05 | phelps | so a rotation would look like this |
| 07:25.06 | phelps | https://gist.github.com/benphelps/e90affae77b139813c39 |
| 07:25.12 | phelps | essentially |
| 07:25.19 | Neffi__ | Rotations are not all that varied between people of the same class/spec |
| 07:25.38 | Neffi__ | No user should need to write their rotation, if you just write the modules ahead of time |
| 07:25.43 | phelps | i know, but I still want there to be a customization option |
| 07:26.25 | Semlar | this is going to be incredibly slow |
| 07:26.30 | phelps | it only happens once |
| 07:26.43 | phelps | builds a table from a single parse |
| 07:26.56 | phelps | a static table using some ugly af lambdas |
| 07:27.14 | phelps | but it works and uses a decent amount of memory |
| 07:27.20 | phelps | about 1-2kb per rotation table |
| 07:27.25 | Neffi__ | Why not parse their input into Lua and then evaluate it as Lua? |
| 07:27.43 | phelps | because Lua doesn't let me write the DSL the way I wnat |
| 07:27.53 | phelps | player.buff(Arcane Missiles!).count |
| 07:27.56 | phelps | is impossible |
| 07:27.59 | Neffi__ | If you get clever it does |
| 07:28.07 | phelps | I've gotten really fucking clever |
| 07:28.18 | Neffi__ | not buff('Frost Armor'): Frost Armor |
| 07:28.26 | phelps | this is what I have now |
| 07:28.29 | phelps | that DOES work |
| 07:28.42 | Neffi__ | prepend an if, search for : and replace it with logic that basically says "then show ..." |
| 07:28.43 | phelps | https://gist.github.com/benphelps/ebee47bdebb7cd1a6040 |
| 07:28.48 | phelps | that does work |
| 07:28.58 | phelps | but I don't like the format |
| 07:29.01 | Neffi__ | Honestly though |
| 07:29.28 | Neffi__ | Playing around with a lot of formatting is annoying, and you're prone to have a shitload of people who just don't understand it |
| 07:29.51 | Neffi__ | People's configuration will be just as buggy as if they were using Lua, because formatting like this is just never intuitive |
| 07:30.32 | Neffi__ | Make a GUI panel where they can drag-and-drop logic blocks into a chain of conditionals, and then drop a spell from their spellbook underneath that to signify what to cast if the logic block is true |
| 07:30.35 | phelps | well |
| 07:30.47 | Neffi__ | within the GUI, the top-most logic block has the highest precedence, etc |
| 07:30.49 | phelps | this all stemmed from a bigger problem with how tables are handled by the gc |
| 07:31.15 | Neffi__ | Use string split if you want to go your way |
| 07:31.20 | phelps | mage rotation is a bad example |
| 07:31.32 | phelps | https://gist.github.com/benphelps/42c4ec6bfd39ee7df3e6 |
| 07:31.37 | Neffi__ | From your usage, you dont even need to GC tables. you can keep a single table around and reuse it. |
| 07:31.40 | phelps | the reason I'm using a string instead of just Lua |
| 07:31.53 | phelps | when I loop over the table and check the conditions |
| 07:32.02 | Neffi__ | Protip: heavy string manip is very expensive too |
| 07:32.09 | phelps | I know |
| 07:32.19 | phelps | but less heavy than creating a table every 50ms or so |
| 07:32.19 | Neffi__ | Strings are immutable. Every time you change a string,you're wasting more than an empty table's worth of memory. |
| 07:32.36 | Neffi__ | Taking a string of 100 length and changing it every 10ms is MUCH worse |
| 07:32.53 | phelps | :| |
| 07:32.55 | phelps | just listen |
| 07:32.59 | phelps | the string is parsed one time |
| 07:33.06 | phelps | and built into a table |
| 07:33.15 | Neffi__ | Every change creates a new string. A string is 20 bytes plus its length. An empty table is like.. 32 bytes or so? |
| 07:33.21 | Neffi__ | Empty table might even be 20 |
| 07:33.37 | phelps | ok |
| 07:33.40 | phelps | just wait a second and listen |
| 07:33.45 | Semlar | don't do it neffi |
| 07:33.49 | Semlar | it's a trick |
| 07:34.01 | phelps | this all comes from needing deferred evaluation |
| 07:34.19 | phelps | I can create a table with the straight up lua commands |
| 07:34.19 | Neffi__ | I still think your approach is fundamentally wrong |
| 07:34.24 | phelps | but for that table to work |
| 07:34.29 | phelps | I have to wrap each conditional |
| 07:34.32 | phelps | in a lambda |
| 07:34.43 | phelps | (function return --[[ ]]-- end) |
| 07:34.48 | phelps | (function() return --[[ ]]-- end) |
| 07:34.58 | Neffi__ | The curve for understanding the structure of formatting with your approach is not much lower than that of Lua. You save nothing by not just using Lua. |
| 07:35.05 | phelps | omg |
| 07:35.06 | bleeter | hey Shirik |
| 07:35.11 | phelps | listen please |
| 07:35.15 | phelps | and I'll tell you |
| 07:35.16 | Semlar | not only do you not save anything you lose the people who already do know lua |
| 07:35.24 | phelps | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:35.27 | Neffi__ | Wait, why? |
| 07:35.32 | Neffi__ | You shouldn't need to do that |
| 07:35.32 | Elkano | Hey! Listen! |
| 07:35.37 | phelps | I do though |
| 07:35.38 | Neffi__ | NAVI! |
| 07:35.42 | Semlar | i feel like link |
| 07:35.45 | phelps | the table is evaluated at creation |
| 07:36.01 | phelps | so the only way for me to use inline conditions are to create the table every time its parsed |
| 07:36.16 | Semlar | that doesn't sound right |
| 07:36.19 | phelps | which ends up using anywhere from 2-20mb of memory |
| 07:36.20 | Neffi__ | I've had too much coffee for my bad eyes to evaluate your code right now, but even how you describe it, you shouldn't have to be so wasteful |
| 07:36.50 | phelps | I can show you |
| 07:36.55 | phelps | its really simple to understand |
| 07:39.05 | phelps | http://codepad.org/68EVA3WF |
| 07:39.06 | phelps | see |
| 07:39.11 | phelps | I create the table |
| 07:39.18 | phelps | and the condition is ran at creation |
| 07:39.35 | phelps | that means the table is essentially stateless |
| 07:39.49 | phelps | it doesn't know the current state, only the state when it was created |
| 07:40.02 | Neffi__ | I think you're overthinking. Consider this |
| 07:40.19 | Neffi__ | Parse it once, upon logic or when the rotation string is first crafted. |
| 07:40.32 | phelps | http://codepad.org/6ZTzB0kB |
| 07:40.34 | phelps | now there |
| 07:40.41 | phelps | the value is deferred |
| 07:40.43 | Semlar | o god |
| 07:40.46 | phelps | until its read |
| 07:40.58 | phelps | I'll get the value when I ask for it |
| 07:41.01 | Neffi__ | Have a system that evaluates it and converts it into a series of if-then-else statements, calling out to custom local functions for checking if playing is moving, buff exists, etc. Compile to Lua. |
| 07:41.02 | phelps | and its the value at time of asking |
| 07:41.05 | Semlar | you do know you can pass a function by reference |
| 07:41.21 | phelps | example Semlar |
| 07:41.32 | Semlar | just use the function name instead of ending it with parentheses |
| 07:41.32 | phelps | I know I can omit () |
| 07:41.35 | bleeter | WAT |
| 07:41.37 | phelps | I'm aware of that |
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| 07:41.51 | phelps | now |
| 07:41.54 | phelps | solve this problem |
| 07:42.07 | phelps | Semlar: http://codepad.org/1Htc91dE |
| 07:42.07 | bleeter | SOLVE IT NAO! |
| 07:42.11 | phelps | how do I solve that problem |
| 07:42.18 | phelps | you see now ? |
| 07:42.27 | Semlar | um |
| 07:42.31 | phelps | passing by reference doesn't work in that case |
| 07:42.40 | Neffi__ | If it's a simple priority system, you don't need to track any state, so you don't need to create any new data |
| 07:42.42 | Semlar | it works if you do the comparison in whatever is parsing the table.. |
| 07:43.11 | Neffi__ | Every time a spell is cast, re-evaluate the chain of commands until the highest-up one returns something valid, and show that icon |
| 07:43.30 | phelps | Neffi__: exactly! the key there is "re-evaluate" |
| 07:43.41 | phelps | without using a lambda around the condition |
| 07:43.44 | Neffi__ | like I said, compile it into Lua |
| 07:43.45 | phelps | I have to create a new table |
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| 07:44.21 | phelps | we are talking pure lua now |
| 07:44.30 | Neffi__ | Compile it all into one function with a series of if-then-else clauses for each entry; each returns the relevant icon name. Re-run the function. |
| 07:44.31 | phelps | since you guys disagree on the string based DSL so much |
| 07:44.43 | Neffi__ | No, I'm saying parse the string shit into Lua |
| 07:44.59 | Neffi__ | It'll give you a single function you can re-run over and over without generating any garbage |
| 07:45.32 | Adys | Grivvel: i wrote python-bna (python lib for making authenticators + implementation) |
| 07:45.32 | phelps | I can parse over a table that does the if/else just as easy |
| 07:45.37 | Adys | Grivvel: did you need anything? |
| 07:45.41 | phelps | table[1] if true return |
| 07:45.47 | phelps | else table[2] |
| 07:45.49 | phelps | etc |
| 07:46.11 | phelps | looping over a table isn't expensive |
| 07:46.19 | phelps | creating one is |
| 07:46.53 | phelps | Neffi__: I fully get what your saying |
| 07:47.01 | phelps | and I'm doing essentially that |
| 07:47.07 | bleeter | tackle hugs Adys |
| 07:47.19 | Adys | :( |
| 07:47.42 | Semlar | glomp |
| 07:47.50 | Neffi__ | http://codepad.org/tM3cCcAP |
| 07:48.14 | Stanzilla | touches Adys |
| 07:48.20 | Neffi__ | clean. the only challenge is using patterns to convert the string into Lua, which is a lot easier than tracking state and creating a shitload of closures and all |
| 07:48.24 | Adys | thats it im going back to bed. |
| 07:48.34 | Semlar | can we join you |
| 07:48.38 | Stanzilla | follows Adys |
| 07:48.44 | bleeter | Stanzilla: ooh, you got Adys going! |
| 07:48.50 | Stanzilla | yeeeeah |
| 07:49.06 | bluspacecow | http://puu.sh/3d1PN.png |
| 07:49.07 | bleeter | Stanzilla: just remember, SSOIDH |
| 07:49.14 | bluspacecow | this warms the cockles of my heart |
| 07:49.24 | Semlar | does your heart even have cockles |
| 07:49.31 | bluspacecow | shuddup |
| 07:49.33 | bluspacecow | :P |
| 07:49.35 | Stanzilla | bluspacecow: finally |
| 07:49.46 | phelps | bluspacecow: thunderbolt rep |
| 07:49.58 | bluspacecow | not my box. |
| 07:50.02 | phelps | aww |
| 07:50.05 | bleeter | bluspacecow: http://users.on.net/~bleeter/pix/ouch.jpg |
| 07:50.14 | bluspacecow | :( |
| 07:50.21 | bluspacecow | xte.exe ? |
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| 07:50.37 | Semlar | xtest? |
| 07:50.44 | Stanzilla | intel overclocking tool |
| 07:50.59 | Stanzilla | no wait |
| 07:51.02 | bluspacecow | y so much mem ? |
| 07:51.03 | Stanzilla | that was xtc? |
| 07:51.04 | Stanzilla | no |
| 07:51.06 | Stanzilla | HRRMRMR |
| 07:51.33 | bleeter | that's a rootkit/trojan thingie |
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| 07:52.00 | bleeter | where all the good stats come from |
| 07:55.56 | bleeter | also |
| 07:56.05 | bleeter | trust bluspacecow to ruin a perfectly good thread |
| 07:56.26 | Neffi__ | exits(0); |
| 07:56.32 | Neffi__ | THREAD RUINED |
| 07:56.54 | bleeter | cp /dev/urandom /dev/kmem |
| 07:57.05 | bleeter | fscking hell I'm old :'( |
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| 07:59.06 | Neffi__ | permission denied or file already exists |
| 08:00.59 | Neffi__ | http://imgur.com/gallery/4f0EIIl |
| 08:02.09 | bluspacecow | @bleeter wat |
| 08:02.32 | phelps | well |
| 08:02.35 | phelps | I give up |
| 08:02.47 | phelps | I have a screenshot of a server I built for a company |
| 08:02.52 | phelps | with 128GB of ram |
| 08:02.57 | bluspacecow | NEVEER GIVE UP |
| 08:03.00 | bluspacecow | FIGHT ON! |
| 08:03.03 | phelps | and 2PB of storage |
| 08:03.07 | bluspacecow | THE BEACH |
| 08:03.11 | Neffi__ | poast it? |
| 08:03.15 | Neffi__ | i like tech porn |
| 08:03.16 | phelps | IM TRYING TO FIND IT |
| 08:03.27 | phelps | i have so many screenshots |
| 08:03.35 | phelps | it was so sexy man |
| 08:03.36 | phelps | so sexy |
| 08:03.41 | Neffi__ | I can't stop watching this GIF |
| 08:04.09 | bluspacecow | wat giff |
| 08:04.13 | Neffi__ | http://imgur.com/gallery/4f0EIIl |
| 08:04.26 | phelps | http://cl.ly/image/0f333c0p1k1p3b2W2S1U |
| 08:04.32 | phelps | old screenshot of my desktop |
| 08:04.35 | Neffi__ | So spectacularly evil. So well acted. |
| 08:04.46 | bluspacecow | http://thechive.files.wordpress.com/2013/06/tumblr_mn9dldmrei1s5lg4ho1_400.gif |
| 08:05.46 | Neffi__ | I miss my pretty desktops. But I don't miss spending 36 hours without sleep aligning dem pixels |
| 08:06.19 | phelps | lol |
| 08:06.27 | phelps | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/19145606/grabs/20110726063443.png |
| 08:06.31 | phelps | can not explain that |
| 08:06.32 | phelps | :| |
| 08:07.13 | bluspacecow | *trys to click the button* |
| 08:07.14 | Maldivia | what's to explain |
| 08:07.16 | bluspacecow | :( |
| 08:10.27 | phelps | nooooo |
| 08:10.44 | phelps | im actually kinda sad |
| 08:10.49 | phelps | I can't find these |
| 08:11.01 | phelps | July 17th 2011 |
| 08:11.04 | phelps | I have the date |
| 08:11.10 | phelps | but no images |
| 08:11.56 | Neffi__ | You were taking screenshots on my 21st birthday. I feel special. |
| 08:12.14 | phelps | I can only find 1 screen shot |
| 08:12.22 | phelps | with 1 drive installed |
| 08:12.51 | phelps | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/19145606/grabs/20110726061815.png |
| 08:13.12 | phelps | that was like |
| 08:13.19 | phelps | at the very very beginning of the build |
| 08:13.39 | phelps | only had 24GB of ram installed |
| 08:13.41 | phelps | and 1 hdd |
| 08:13.44 | phelps | :( |
| 08:14.06 | phelps | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/19145606/grabs/20110726062809.png |
| 08:14.21 | phelps | those files I found in my trash can |
| 08:14.24 | phelps | I didn't put them there |
| 08:14.25 | phelps | no idea |
| 08:14.27 | Neffi__ | There's a special place in hell for those who don't seed |
| 08:14.45 | Neffi__ | 10 kB/s on a bluray rip of an entire season of a show is not acceptable |
| 08:15.01 | phelps | you need a broadcasthe.net invite |
| 08:15.08 | phelps | let me see if I have one |
| 08:15.43 | phelps | Neffi__: what show is it |
| 08:15.53 | Neffi__ | Game of Thrones season 1 |
| 08:16.04 | phelps | I can give you a private link |
| 08:16.07 | phelps | if you seed it for a week |
| 08:16.16 | Neffi__ | is such allowed? |
| 08:16.17 | phelps | if you dont I get a hit and run |
| 08:16.21 | phelps | yeah its fine |
| 08:16.23 | Neffi__ | Nah, don't bother |
| 08:16.44 | Neffi__ | It'll finish by the end of the night anyway. I don't wanna accidentally stop seeding it, not realizing. |
| 08:16.56 | phelps | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/19145606/Screenshots/q6mq.png |
| 08:17.08 | phelps | those are the qualities |
| 08:17.09 | phelps | and seeds |
| 08:17.20 | Neffi__ | it's beautiful |
| 08:17.23 | phelps | private tracks ftw |
| 08:17.27 | phelps | trackers * |
| 08:17.41 | Neffi__ | yeah. i miss my what.cd account. never could find an invite to anything else. |
| 08:17.50 | phelps | I got them all |
| 08:17.50 | phelps | haha |
| 08:18.12 | Neffi__ | how do you even find invites to them? people seem to covet them like crazy |
| 08:18.21 | phelps | what.cd, passthepopcorn.me, broadcasthe.net, bitgamer.su (before they shutdown) |
| 08:18.42 | Neffi__ | bitgamer shut down? wow |
| 08:18.43 | phelps | uhh |
| 08:18.45 | phelps | yeah |
| 08:18.46 | phelps | sucks |
| 08:19.09 | Neffi__ | i'm not a fan of pirating games anyway. |
| 08:19.14 | phelps | having a seedbox from hell mostly |
| 08:19.22 | phelps | 1gbps link |
| 08:19.24 | phelps | 10TB hdd |
| 08:19.29 | phelps | me and a few friends share it |
| 08:19.39 | phelps | so we get torrent celebrity |
| 08:19.42 | Neffi__ | that's kinda awesome |
| 08:19.47 | phelps | which gets you invites to all the others |
| 08:20.17 | Neffi__ | I wish more trackers did like What.CD and offered interviews |
| 08:20.34 | phelps | broadcasthe.net is nice because it is ratio less |
| 08:20.43 | phelps | you just have to seed for 1 day for a single episode |
| 08:20.46 | phelps | or 1 week for a season |
| 08:21.06 | phelps | or 1 month for an entire run |
| 08:22.10 | Neffi__ | I'm pretty jealous |
| 08:22.11 | phelps | there isn't a game tracker atm |
| 08:22.21 | phelps | the one the replaced bitgamer shutdown a week ago |
| 08:22.28 | phelps | only lasted a month or so |
| 08:23.09 | Neffi__ | i legitimately feel guilty pirating games unless I've previously owned retail copies. |
| 08:23.35 | phelps | ehh |
| 08:23.40 | phelps | if its by EA |
| 08:23.42 | phelps | fuck um |
| 08:24.02 | phelps | I might be able to get you an invite to broadcasthe.net |
| 08:24.04 | Neffi__ | I was gonna say that, but then I remembered I haven't played an EA game since SimCity 3000 |
| 08:24.07 | phelps | and maybe passthepopcorn.me |
| 08:24.35 | Neffi__ | I'd love you long time if you did |
| 08:24.48 | phelps | I can get you a passthepopcorn.me invite |
| 08:24.50 | phelps | movies |
| 08:24.58 | Neffi__ | I've got a humble 5 Mbps up speed, but I leave my computer on almost all the time, so I can always seed |
| 08:25.07 | phelps | doesn't matter a whole lot |
| 08:25.11 | phelps | if you see the staff picks |
| 08:25.22 | phelps | pm me your email |
| 08:25.26 | phelps | lets see if invites are open |
| 08:25.45 | phelps | sent |
| 08:25.50 | Neffi__ | awesome |
| 08:26.18 | phelps | I'm so fucked on that site |
| 08:26.19 | phelps | lol |
| 08:26.21 | Neffi__ | fuck, thanks man. you've made my life a lot less boring. |
| 08:26.30 | bluspacecow | http://ak1.ostkcdn.com/images/products/L11271874.jpg |
| 08:26.31 | phelps | they have a really good Iron Man 3 |
| 08:26.33 | bluspacecow | the new mac pro! |
| 08:26.47 | phelps | if they come out with a mac pro |
| 08:26.52 | phelps | my fanboy ass will but it |
| 08:27.01 | bluspacecow | http://25.media.tumblr.com/943397fb205b424e33e47a75f6c090b8/tumblr_mo70dp0KnS1spnm0ro1_500.gif |
| 08:27.04 | Neffi__ | bluspacecow: Wait a second, something's not right there....... |
| 08:27.26 | Neffi__ | See the seam? APPLE DOESNT DESIGN SO CARELESSLY. MUST BE A FEATURE> |
| 08:27.50 | phelps | http://i.imgur.com/Pftz2.jpg |
| 08:28.02 | phelps | my desk in all its apple fan boy glory |
| 08:28.23 | phelps | beats where a gift |
| 08:28.27 | phelps | I got some AKGs now |
| 08:28.55 | bluspacecow | http://www.tuaw.com/2013/06/10/new-ios-sdk-features-for-developers/ |
| 08:28.58 | bluspacecow | interesting. |
| 08:31.22 | phelps | Neffi__: idk, I think BTN invites are just off |
| 08:31.24 | Neffi__ | phelps: I love you |
| 08:31.28 | phelps | I'm a Power User and Donor |
| 08:31.31 | phelps | and have 2 invites |
| 08:31.42 | phelps | but can't send any |
| 08:31.43 | Neffi__ | Seeing the homepage on a private tracker makes me smile |
| 08:32.02 | phelps | you have a what.cd already ? |
| 08:32.22 | Neffi__ | Used to. They wouldn't re-instate it. |
| 08:32.35 | Neffi__ | Not my fault. My asshole friend fucked it up when we lived together. |
| 08:34.03 | phelps | I have a waffles.fm account too |
| 08:34.08 | phelps | but can't remember the password |
| 08:34.09 | phelps | haha |
| 08:34.18 | phelps | waffles sucks anyways |
| 08:35.08 | phelps | bitgamer.su went down |
| 08:35.15 | phelps | then gazellegames.net came |
| 08:35.22 | phelps | and now gazellegames is dead |
| 08:35.37 | Neffi__ | I don't download music too often, and the shit I listen to is always on public trackers. I'm not too mad about losing What.CD. |
| 08:35.48 | Neffi__ | But I watch a lot of movies and TV shows, so this makes a difference |
| 08:36.23 | phelps | I need to get a blackcats-games.net |
| 08:36.25 | phelps | invite |
| 08:37.18 | zenzio | I'm not sure what the channel rules are, but it would seem prudent not to discuss this so in-depth on here |
| 08:38.04 | phelps | lol idc |
| 08:38.21 | phelps | all you're gonna get is a login screen |
| 08:49.26 | phelps | DFHSDLFAS |
| 08:49.31 | phelps | i really give up now |
| 08:49.37 | phelps | screenshot is lost forever |
| 08:57.13 | zenzio | "Who cares? Testing optimization with optimization turned off makes no sense." |
| 08:57.18 | zenzio | pretty true |
| 09:02.43 | Elkano | /cheer ... managed to switch the SecureAuraHeader between player and vehicle (hopefully works in combat, too) |
| 09:03.42 | zenzio | are there any fights in particular where this is useful? (that is, where the player switches between vehicle and normal) |
| 09:03.57 | zenzio | I've not raided or done instances for some time |
| 09:04.05 | Elkano | in WotLK there were at least |
| 09:04.27 | Elkano | argentum tournament, ulduar, ... |
| 09:04.52 | zenzio | oh, right... apparently my memory's not very good again |
| 09:05.46 | Elkano | and for argentum tournament it is really needed... the defense debuff can stack up to three showing for both player and vehicle BUT it doesn't reduce stacks for player |
| 09:07.43 | Elkano | has been bugging me for years and EBB2 didn't switch between player/vehicle... EBB3 does for SAH groups at least so far |
| 09:14.44 | zenzio | aha |
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| 09:32.04 | bluspacecow | http://kotaku.com/yes-plants-vs-zombies-garden-warfare-looks-like-a-cr-512377714 |
| 09:32.05 | bluspacecow | lol |
| 09:35.37 | zenzio | "Weight in grams: Specified by adding ?weightInGrams=1500. Note that weight is given in grams." -- I feel like they're trying to tell me something, but I can't work out what |
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| 10:47.48 | haste | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:47.55 | haste | so great ! |
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| 10:53.23 | Kalroth | poor haste |
| 10:55.30 | haste | yep, I've been pissing of Cairenn again and had to feel the mighty banhammer |
| 10:55.30 | Fisker | hey haste |
| 10:55.35 | haste | hey Fisker |
| 10:58.00 | Kalroth | hey Fisker |
| 10:58.18 | Kalroth | did you get your GFX780 yet |
| 10:59.47 | bleeter | bluspacecow: wat |
| 11:00.02 | bluspacecow | wat wat |
| 11:00.24 | bluspacecow | *spins cane* |
| 11:00.29 | bluspacecow | *dons bowler hat* |
| 11:00.32 | bluspacecow | wat wat wat |
| 11:01.51 | Fisker | why would i get a gfx780 Kalroth ? |
| 11:02.32 | bluspacecow | because it was free |
| 11:02.37 | bluspacecow | occupied by a free taco |
| 11:03.13 | Kalroth | Fisker: i dunno i can't read your mind, are you using tinfoil?? |
| 11:05.22 | zenzio | probably aluminium foil |
| 11:07.13 | Neffi__ | http://i.imgur.com/wQ3z6.jpg |
| 11:08.30 | bluspacecow | why i think of this http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1f/Nofretete_Neues_Museum.jpg/230px-Nofretete_Neues_Museum.jpg |
| 11:08.37 | bluspacecow | when I sees your name Neffi ? |
| 11:08.58 | Neffi__ | hahah |
| 11:09.05 | Neffi__ | never made that connection |
| 11:09.37 | zenzio | Neffi__: old, but classic :-) Cats do so love sitting on warm objects |
| 11:09.54 | zenzio | or just objects they're not supposed to sit on, like the top of your CRT monitors |
| 11:09.57 | Neffi__ | But fuck that bitch. All that one-god shit was bullshit. |
| 11:09.57 | bluspacecow | http://www.touregypt.net/featurestories/nefertiti.htm |
| 11:10.20 | Neffi__ | Isis for lyf |
| 11:13.47 | phelps | jkghlk |
| 11:14.13 | phelps | Neffi__: is PTP as awesome as you thought it would be ? |
| 11:14.39 | Neffi__ | It's pretty great. Tons of stuff. |
| 11:28.00 | VIad | Neffi__ talks too much |
| 11:28.15 | VIad | Detective Cole Phelps is cool :) |
| 11:29.31 | VIad | Kemayo: hey! now that NPCScan is dead, maybe it's time to brush up on SilverDragon so people can migrate? ;D |
| 11:30.26 | Neffi__ | VIad: That was seriously uncalled for. I'm going to cry now. |
| 11:30.33 | VIad | lol Neffi__ |
| 11:30.46 | VIad | all I said is that you talked a lot :D I talk a lot too! |
| 11:32.52 | VIad | don't cry Neffi |
| 11:33.08 | bluspacecow | *hands hanki to Neffi* |
| 11:34.44 | VIad | it's like saying that one thing to a your wife during that time of the month, then sudden burst of anger and tears unleashes, and you have no clue what you did wrong :P |
| 11:36.57 | Neffi | Are you saying I'm on my period? |
| 11:38.03 | VIad | I started with "it's like" so I hope you don't think I was implying anything :P |
| 11:39.42 | Neffi | Don't worry. I don't think blood will be coming out of my man parts any time soon. It's kinda hard to be offended |
| 11:40.08 | VIad | if that ever happens to you seek medical attention, I didn't and I found out that it wasn't normal, the hard way |
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| 11:41.00 | Neffi | "the hard way" made me chuckle |
| 11:41.20 | VIad | I am here to make people laugh |
| 11:41.52 | VIad | and frenzy certain people over silly nerd things like php |
| 11:42.42 | Neffi | php IS a silly nerd thing |
| 11:43.10 | VIad | I just smile when I see nerds argue about php, some saying it sucks and try to convince those that use it that they shouldn't and such :P |
| 11:44.09 | Neffi | Sounds just like everything else |
| 11:44.19 | VIad | hehe |
| 11:44.25 | VIad | did you make Cowsay? |
| 11:44.41 | VIad | :D |
| 11:44.52 | Neffi | hmmm |
| 11:45.00 | VIad | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/author-187145.html |
| 11:45.15 | Neffi | dont download it |
| 11:45.20 | Neffi | it's embarassingly bad code |
| 11:45.41 | VIad | I am looking at it :D |
| 11:45.49 | nebula169 | 99% of wow addons have embarassingly bad code ;[ |
| 11:46.08 | VIad | it's like an awesome library for a cow to say things :3 |
| 11:46.26 | mitch0 | 90% of them are flat-out dangerous, too |
| 11:46.47 | Maldivia | and 85% of all statistics are made up on the spot |
| 11:47.02 | Neffi | Oh wow I went through the trouble of attempting to justify the text based on character width of the chosen font |
| 11:47.15 | VIad | and 101% dalmatians were killed for theirf fur |
| 11:47.22 | Neffi | It's been a long time since I read this. It doesnt even feel like my code. |
| 11:47.35 | VIad | that's how I feel when I look at code I wrote the day before, Neffi |
| 11:48.20 | Neffi | I dont write code until I've logged over 10 bathroom hours thinking about it. When things get that personal, you never really forget. |
| 11:48.34 | VIad | when I code I have to make drafts |
| 11:48.37 | VIad | then I redraft the draft |
| 11:48.40 | VIad | and I keep doing that :P |
| 11:48.50 | VIad | like a working prototype for ever evolving |
| 11:49.02 | VIad | then I have to start from scratch to get rid of weird framework structure |
| 11:49.39 | VIad | Neffi: heard of http://addon.ziuo.net ? |
| 11:50.10 | Neffi | nope |
| 11:50.18 | VIad | oki - just asking :P |
| 11:50.40 | VIad | got a new url for it at addon.bool.no so it redirects, just wanted to say that, if you knew about it :P |
| 11:52.29 | Neffi | Useful for when people ask for simple scripts made into addons |
| 11:52.39 | VIad | that was the point |
| 11:52.45 | VIad | why didn't anyone else make it before? |
| 11:52.54 | VIad | one of those things easy to make :/ |
| 11:52.56 | Neffi | Too lazy? |
| 11:53.16 | VIad | it's a incredibly simple php script :P |
| 11:53.17 | Neffi | Or they avoid any sort of web development like the plague? |
| 11:53.20 | Neffi | *cough* |
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| 11:55.42 | phelps | I made something like that a few years ago |
| 11:55.47 | phelps | no one ever used it |
| 11:55.48 | phelps | lol |
| 11:55.55 | phelps | you're looks better though |
| 11:56.04 | phelps | I had 0 css :p |
| 11:57.06 | zenzio | if it can't be done with tag values (bgcolor="") then it ain't worth styling |
| 11:57.31 | phelps | I did make a haste calculator |
| 11:57.34 | phelps | that was pretty popular |
| 11:57.39 | phelps | I made about $1 a day |
| 11:57.43 | phelps | from google ads :p |
| 11:58.08 | zenzio | so you're saying you... *sunglasses* got rich in a haste |
| 11:58.09 | phelps | then haste had to go and get all complex n shit |
| 11:58.23 | phelps | lolol |
| 11:58.31 | phelps | not even |
| 11:58.37 | phelps | made less than $500 |
| 11:58.39 | bleeter | when I grow up |
| 11:58.42 | bleeter | I want to |
| 11:58.46 | bleeter | be able to |
| 11:58.47 | bleeter | post |
| 11:58.53 | bleeter | a single thought |
| 11:58.56 | phelps | I could make some neat stuff if I had ideas |
| 11:58.56 | bleeter | on |
| 11:58.59 | bleeter | a single |
| 11:59.01 | bleeter | line |
| 11:59.11 | zenzio | I think bleeter is trying to make a point, but I can't work out what the mesage is |
| 11:59.15 | zenzio | nor the message |
| 11:59.25 | phelps | when I do it |
| 11:59.32 | Neffi | bleeter: don't be so hasty on the enter button |
| 11:59.39 | bleeter | zenzio: for a moment there I thought I was in #pidgin |
| 11:59.40 | phelps | i at least try to put a few words per line |
| 11:59.44 | phelps | you know what I mean ? |
| 12:00.00 | zenzio | bleeter: not sure if you're talking about what I said, or about your own point :-o |
| 12:00.09 | bleeter | zenzio: yes |
| 12:00.27 | bleeter | Neffi: |
| 12:00.42 | Neffi | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:01.14 | bleeter | couldn't have put it better |
| 12:01.19 | bleeter | myself |
| 12:03.09 | mitch0 | my myself and I |
| 12:03.14 | mitch0 | doh, way to botch it |
| 12:03.16 | zenzio | seeing this, I mentally subtitled it "Deal with it"... https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/931324_475172309227219_1657281443_n.jpg |
| 12:04.05 | bleeter | ~fail mitch0 |
| 12:04.05 | purl | You suck at everything in life, mitch0. I hate you because you fail. |
| 12:04.20 | bleeter | ooh that was too harsh, sorry mitch0 |
| 12:04.58 | zenzio | when you don't succeed, remember the words of Homer Simpson: "You tried your best, and you failed miserably." |
| 12:05.25 | mitch0 | zenzio: wtf is that? |
| 12:05.37 | mitch0 | not homer, the person on the picture |
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| 12:05.43 | zenzio | Stephano, SC2 pro |
| 12:05.58 | zenzio | a rather peculiar Frenchman |
| 12:06.09 | mitch0 | all frenchmen are rather peculiar |
| 12:06.09 | zenzio | but then, which French guy isn't peculiar |
| 12:06.24 | zenzio | you beat me by milliseconds :( |
| 12:06.25 | bleeter | never succeed. budgies suck seeds, you are not a budgie. (admittedly this works far better spoken) |
| 12:06.30 | mitch0 | the bad food they eat does it |
| 12:06.49 | zenzio | bleeter: what's a budgie? |
| 12:07.09 | bleeter | zenzio: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budgerigar |
| 12:07.20 | zenzio | aha |
| 12:07.40 | bleeter | and from 'budgie', one gets http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=budgie%20smugglers |
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| 12:10.38 | mitch0 | asparagus |
| 12:10.45 | Neffi | http://i.imgur.com/5x39W.jpg |
| 12:11.50 | Kalroth | its true |
| 12:11.57 | mitch0 | girls have no business writing programs |
| 12:11.59 | bleeter | Neffi++ |
| 12:12.16 | Neffi | ++Neffi |
| 12:12.22 | Neffi | get your shit together |
| 12:12.25 | phelps | isn't this lua ? |
| 12:12.27 | Kalroth | +Neffi+ |
| 12:12.29 | phelps | ++ shit don't work |
| 12:13.08 | zenzio | ~phelps-- |
| 12:13.13 | zenzio | ~karma phelps |
| 12:13.13 | purl | phelps has karma of -1 |
| 12:13.25 | Neffi | ~karma purl |
| 12:13.25 | purl | purl has karma of 46 |
| 12:13.30 | phelps | ~karma phelps -1 |
| 12:13.30 | purl | phelps -1 has neutral karma |
| 12:13.38 | phelps | how do you give karma |
| 12:13.38 | bleeter | ~karma neffi |
| 12:13.38 | purl | neffi has karma of 1 |
| 12:13.50 | phelps | ~karma -1 phelps |
| 12:13.50 | purl | -1 phelps has neutral karma |
| 12:13.51 | bleeter | you give karma by doing this that don't work |
| 12:13.53 | zenzio | phelps: ~username++ and ~username-- |
| 12:13.59 | phelps | lol |
| 12:14.02 | phelps | ~phelps-- |
| 12:14.15 | mitch0 | ~purl------------------------------------------------ |
| 12:14.15 | phelps | <purl> please don't karma yourself |
| 12:14.19 | phelps | FUCK YOU PURL |
| 12:14.47 | Neffi | !lua print("~Neffi++") |
| 12:15.01 | Neffi | lua> print("~Neffi++") |
| 12:15.02 | lua_bot | Neffi: ~Neffi++ |
| 12:15.10 | Neffi | goddammit lua_bot |
| 12:15.21 | zenzio | Neffi: they closed down those options after they got their bots into infinite loops |
| 12:15.45 | Neffi | I may be partially to blame for that |
| 12:15.54 | Neffi | I fuck with purl sometimes |
| 12:15.56 | zenzio | only a small part; there were like 10 people doing it |
| 12:16.04 | zenzio | think most of all the bot writers :-p |
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| 12:16.10 | phelpsminusminus | ~phelps-- |
| 12:16.19 | phelps | ~karma phelps |
| 12:16.19 | purl | phelps has karma of -2 |
| 12:16.21 | phelps | HA |
| 12:17.13 | bleeter | finding botloops is fun |
| 12:17.23 | Neffi | purl, what is np? |
| 12:17.23 | purl | methinks np is <response>~Neffi++ |
| 12:17.32 | Neffi | shit |
| 12:17.54 | Neffi | purl, what is np? |
| 12:17.54 | purl | well, np is <respond>~Neffi++ |
| 12:17.59 | bleeter | haha |
| 12:18.06 | Neffi | yeah i forgot how to purl |
| 12:18.12 | bleeter | Neffi: MUST TRY HARDER! |
| 12:18.32 | zenzio | ~np |
| 12:18.33 | purl | methinks np is <respond>~Neffi++ |
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| 12:19.26 | nevcairiel | methinks someone fails at url |
| 12:19.29 | Neffi | ~np |
| 12:19.29 | purl | ~Neffi++ |
| 12:19.35 | nevcairiel | purl* |
| 12:19.46 | Neffi | ~karma Neffi |
| 12:19.46 | purl | neffi has karma of 1 |
| 12:19.53 | Neffi | purl doesnt register his own feelings |
| 12:19.56 | Neffi | How admirable |
| 12:20.03 | zenzio | she |
| 12:20.07 | bleeter | *her |
| 12:20.33 | Neffi | ~purl |
| 12:20.33 | purl | rumour has it, purl is male |
| 12:20.47 | nevcairiel | purl, who are you |
| 12:20.48 | purl | nevcairiel: what are you talking about? |
| 12:20.54 | nevcairiel | purl, what are you |
| 12:20.54 | purl | I am a blootbot. For more info see <blootbot> |
| 12:20.57 | nevcairiel | hm |
| 12:21.03 | nevcairiel | where did it say the other thing |
| 12:21.11 | nevcairiel | purl, are you female? |
| 12:21.14 | mitch0 | purl, a/s/l |
| 12:21.15 | purl | I'm a bot. Fscker. |
| 12:21.18 | zenzio | ~literal purl |
| 12:21.18 | purl | "purl" is "male" |
| 12:21.24 | zenzio | ~factinfo purl |
| 12:21.24 | purl | error: you do not have enough flags for that. (o required) |
| 12:21.24 | purl | purl -- created by Mephs <~Mephs@c-67-172-135-227.hsd1.co.comcast.net> at Sat Feb 11 07:50:53 2012 (486 days); last modified 52s ago by Neffi!~Neffi@pool-98-113-42-136.nycmny.fios.verizon.net; it has been requested 46 times, last by Neffi, 51s ago. |
| 12:21.43 | nevcairiel | neffi cheats |
| 12:21.52 | bleeter | maybe purl changed gender after some upgrades |
| 12:22.32 | bleeter | oooh... BAD BAD NEFFI |
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| 12:40.34 | zenzio | why helo thar peppy |
| 12:41.04 | Lopeppeppy | morning, dear. |
| 13:04.50 | zenzio | "Windows NT grandaddy OpenVMS taken out back, single gunshot heard"... quite a title. http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/06/10/openvms_death_notice/ |
| 13:10.21 | Lopeppeppy | Wow, nice title indeed. |
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| 13:36.08 | mitch0 | vms was crap anyway |
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| 14:12.48 | TC-work | I think it is time for a vacation. |
| 14:13.03 | zenzio | not a bad idea |
| 14:13.22 | TC-work | I havent had one in 11 months at this point |
| 14:16.23 | Stanzilla | 4 years here |
| 14:16.25 | Stanzilla | tell me about it |
| 14:16.44 | Stanzilla | holiday that is though |
| 14:17.51 | TC-work | Well, It depends how you define 'vacation' The only time I have taken off is to visit family, which is vacation-ish. |
| 14:18.10 | TC-work | Otherwise my last vacation was 7 years ago. |
| 14:30.42 | VIad | TC-work: do you know what vacation means? |
| 14:31.07 | TC-work | ~dict 1 vacation |
| 14:31.17 | VIad | statistically speaking I only see TC-work so I am not sure if you really know what vacation means :P |
| 14:31.22 | TC-work | Yes, I make a void. |
| 14:31.38 | VIad | "free from a duty" |
| 14:31.45 | VIad | you are never free from duty when you have family |
| 14:31.47 | VIad | ergo no vacation |
| 14:32.13 | TC-work | Well, it's a gray area. |
| 14:32.18 | VIad | :P |
| 14:36.48 | VIad | TC-work: why does this happen? http://i.imgur.com/0Q7WMJQ.jpg |
| 14:37.03 | VIad | the title is normal in FF but in chrome it eats up the text and adds this glow like effect |
| 14:38.13 | VIad | damn you -webkit-text-stroke ! |
| 14:44.20 | TC-work | Interesting, there is graphical issues with the 's' in chrome |
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| 15:25.52 | Maldivia | VIad: because the font rendering in chrome sucks |
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| 15:26.28 | Unkle | Maldivia: And how. |
| 15:27.32 | Maldivia | Unkle: well, they are aworking on it at least, new renderer should come in beta soon, afaik |
| 15:29.25 | Unkle | It's been a thing for a while. Like I said yesterday, I'm mostly using Chrome out of inertia. |
| 15:31.31 | karl_w_w | Shirik: hell in a handcart |
| 15:35.57 | TC-work | After our talk from yesterday I moved back to firefox. So far it has saved me ~1.7GB of ram |
| 15:36.13 | Unkle | Sweet. |
| 15:36.39 | TC-work | I'm missing little things about chrome though :( |
| 15:36.58 | Unkle | Some days I really feel like the last panel here - http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic |
| 15:38.39 | TC-work | Yea. |
| 15:39.54 | karl_w_w | I genuinely don't think I've ever found a penny arcade comic funny |
| 15:40.17 | karl_w_w | mildly amusing commentary on life, perhaps, but not funny |
| 15:41.00 | TC-work | Are you really dissecting humor? You find amusing to be different than funny? |
| 15:43.09 | Unkle | Humor isn't universal. As another one of their strips said "Well, it's not for YOU." |
| 15:43.55 | karl_w_w | Indeed |
| 15:44.02 | karl_w_w | absolutely it is TC-work |
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| 15:45.56 | TC-work | karl_w_w: how do you define funny then? |
| 15:45.58 | Shirik | I have two smoke detectors in my house |
| 15:46.06 | Shirik | I have now replaced the battery in the upstairs one 3 times |
| 15:46.10 | Shirik | and the one in the downstairs one never |
| 15:46.13 | Unkle | Shirik: That's not funny |
| 15:46.19 | Shirik | ._. |
| 15:46.29 | TC-work | Shirik: See, PA agrees with me. http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2013/05/10 |
| 15:46.50 | Shirik | I have a print of that |
| 15:47.09 | TC-work | Of course you do. |
| 15:49.47 | TC-work | So here at work we do 'outstats' at the end of the day which is a collection of the work we did during the day. One of my co-workers comments is "- so lonely ..." so I made a comment to my boss "Maybe we should all pitch in and get him a woman?" and he responded with "it's very quiet here..and dark. yes. a lady" |
| 15:49.58 | TC-work | That's not creepy in serial killer way or anything.... |
| 15:51.32 | Lopeppeppy | You started it, TC |
| 15:52.26 | TC-work | My joke was not creepy. |
| 15:53.09 | Lopeppeppy | but you opened the door by making a semi-weird remark. |
| 15:53.11 | karl_w_w | TC-work: all funny things are amusing, but not all amusing things are funny :P |
| 15:53.35 | TC-work | karl_w_w: but how do you differ them? |
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| 15:53.52 | karl_w_w | I don't really know how to define funny |
| 15:54.04 | karl_w_w | but all things that entertain you are amusing |
| 15:54.04 | TC-work | Physical response? |
| 15:54.16 | karl_w_w | I guess |
| 15:54.17 | Unkle | TC-work: Did ... did you suggest prostitution in a professional setting? And no one sent you to HR? |
| 15:55.19 | Dagmar | Those are work for hire arrangements. I'm pretty sure he was suggesting an outright purchase. |
| 15:55.23 | Dagmar | Totally different thing there |
| 15:55.41 | Unkle | So, slavery then. |
| 15:55.42 | TC-work | Unkle: It would take one hell of a lot more than that to involve HR. |
| 15:55.58 | Dagmar | Even the uni I work for isn't so ill humored as to have policies against purchasing extra humans. |
| 15:56.06 | bluspacecow | not enough virgins sacrificed |
| 15:56.30 | karl_w_w | you don't need policies against purchasing humans, there are laws for it |
| 15:56.59 | Unkle | Oh, when corporations do it, it is called "employment." |
| 15:57.20 | Dagmar | Unkle: No, slavery is illegal. Thanks to MasterCard and Visa, not to mention Bank of America and well over two dozen financial institutions however, *indentured servitude* is not only legal but encouraged on prime time television and sports events. |
| 15:57.48 | Unkle | Indeed, inDEBTure is alive and well. |
| 15:58.08 | Dagmar | You're not purchasing humans, you're just purchasing their liberty for a fixed time period until their debt is worked off. |
| 16:00.57 | Lopeppeppy | Oh sweet jebus crackers, the friggin PATS took Tebow? /wrists |
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| 16:06.29 | karl_w_w | Shirik: if you wanted an update, see just above this anchor: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Sega_Genesis#Comments_from_an_uninvolved_admin |
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| 16:21.23 | karl_w_w | I don't even know why, bluspacecow |
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| 16:27.20 | TC-work | Damn you for linking that karl_w_w, I started reading it. |
| 16:27.24 | Lopeppeppy | Oh god I am going to murder our former webmaster in her bed. Just saying. |
| 16:27.43 | karl_w_w | don't TC-work |
| 16:27.48 | karl_w_w | you may lose sanity |
| 16:27.59 | Shirik | pets Lopeppeppy |
| 16:29.00 | cogwheel | pets Shirik |
| 16:29.55 | karl_w_w | pets pets |
| 16:29.58 | Unkle | Lopeppeppy: You wanna kill, Kill, KILL! ? |
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| 16:39.51 | karl_w_w | stupid things to do in life: travel a route using google maps street view because you can't find any other way to find all the fuel stations on a route |
| 16:41.31 | karl_w_w | and in my current particular case, by all I mean any |
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| 16:54.19 | karl_w_w | because there are none, that's incredible |
| 16:55.10 | karl_w_w | it's possible to drive 20km on major suburban roads without coming across a single petrol station |
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| 17:41.19 | nightcracker | hey everyone |
| 17:43.07 | zenzelezz | ohai |
| 17:50.18 | nightcracker | I'm trying to make SetPushedTexture and SetCheckedTexture mutually exclusive, anyone has any ideas that doesn't involve OnUpdate? |
| 17:51.03 | nightcracker | that is, if an actionbutton is checked I don't want the pushed texture to show as well, because then the two textures mix they're alpha creating a bright mess |
| 17:52.32 | Unkle | Sounds like the problem is the texture. |
| 17:53.45 | nightcracker | how exactly? I do want simple blending over the background, but not twice (the SetPushedTexture and SetCheckedTexture are the same) |
| 17:54.56 | nightcracker | if a spell is both checked (queue'd for casting/casting) and pushed then the texture effectively gets displayed twice making the transparency overlay twice as "heavy", which is what I don't want |
| 17:58.07 | nightcracker | is there perhaps any way to hook an actionbutton gettting checked/unchecked? |
| 17:59.28 | cogwheel | So don't use the same texture for both |
| 17:59.31 | cogwheel | use something else for pushed |
| 17:59.37 | cogwheel | that will interact the way you want |
| 17:59.46 | nightcracker | but I want them to be the same |
| 17:59.48 | nightcracker | I like it that way |
| 18:00.07 | nightcracker | (visually, that is - I don't care how it is handled in the code) |
| 18:01.34 | nightcracker | hooksecurefunc(ActionButton1, "SetChecked", print) is not reliable sadly |
| 18:01.44 | cogwheel | the problem isn't when it's pushed |
| 18:01.47 | cogwheel | it's when you set the texture |
| 18:01.57 | cogwheel | you need to set a different pushed texture when it's checked |
| 18:02.00 | cogwheel | vs not checked |
| 18:02.20 | nightcracker | that's what I want to do |
| 18:02.31 | nightcracker | but then I need some hook to find out checked/not checked |
| 18:02.52 | nightcracker | because that information is obviously not static |
| 18:04.01 | nightcracker | sadly there's no function called button:SetPushedTextureWhenChecked or something similar |
| 18:04.18 | VIad | getmetatable(ActionButton1).__index = function(s) print("spread the taint!") end |
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| 18:05.22 | nightcracker | VIad: that just crashes the game :) |
| 18:05.27 | VIad | :P |
| 18:05.39 | VIad | I just wrote something random |
| 18:06.02 | nightcracker | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:07.19 | bluspacecow | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:10.25 | zenzelezz | O_o |
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| 18:11.01 | VIad | thats how the pros roll |
| 18:11.02 | nightcracker | this works, so I'll keep this until I find a better solution: https://gist.github.com/nightcracker/5759289 |
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| 18:36.36 | nightcracker | at what level does a hunter get a petbar? |
| 18:37.20 | phelps | nightcracker: 10 |
| 18:37.47 | phelps | it used to be no pet until 10, but they get a half-ass pet until 10 now |
| 18:38.35 | nightcracker | ok guess I'll need to level to 10 then lol |
| 18:38.56 | zenzelezz | that should take you about 10 minutes now |
| 18:39.19 | phelps | ehh |
| 18:39.23 | phelps | takes about an hour |
| 18:39.39 | phelps | you can also get a warlock |
| 18:39.44 | phelps | they have the same petbar stuff |
| 18:40.06 | nightcracker | from level 1? |
| 18:40.18 | phelps | idk if the lock imp has the full petbar or not |
| 18:40.22 | phelps | worth a shot |
| 18:40.26 | nightcracker | I'll check |
| 18:40.36 | nightcracker | after dinner... |
| 18:40.37 | phelps | but locks do get a pet from level 1 as well |
| 18:40.38 | nightcracker | bbl |
| 18:47.02 | Unkle | Pet classes don't get the "Control Pet" ability until 10 - so no full bar until then |
| 18:56.12 | zenzelezz | sadly, many of them don't learn to control the pet for some time later |
| 18:56.43 | TC-work | Or ever |
| 18:57.55 | Mr_Rabies | mine still occasionally remembers there used to be an aggressive stance and suddenly charges something i haven't even targeted, when i'm not in combat |
| 18:58.15 | zenzelezz | heh |
| 19:02.00 | Unkle | On my warlock I usually have my pet set to assist, though for instances I will use passive and macros with /petattack in them. When I'm soloing or gathering in high-risk areas I'll use defensive. But Assist mode is my default. |
| 19:03.54 | Arrowmaster | hardcore warlocks run with an imp on aggressive |
| 19:04.09 | Unkle | He's a little turret! |
| 19:04.23 | zenzelezz | short and stout |
| 19:04.41 | Arrowmaster | i spec'd for imp fireball back in TBC after i got the black book |
| 19:04.43 | zenzelezz | aggro them all and then fireball out |
| 19:05.05 | Arrowmaster | warned the tank i was going to make him loose aggro to an imp |
| 19:05.20 | Unkle | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/kirin-tor/Woefire/advanced - I took Grimoire if Supremacy. |
| 19:14.15 | phelps | I feel bad being in bis pvp gear |
| 19:14.23 | phelps | and not being on the same ilevel as pve folks |
| 19:26.14 | Unkle | Why? If you're focused on PVP, you're essentially playing a different game, and the iLevel of people playing the other game is of no relevance. |
| 19:26.53 | Shirik | but what if my pvp is denying other people pve gear? |
| 19:26.58 | zenzelezz | nonsense Unkle |
| 19:27.06 | zenzelezz | it feels better to gank people in same ilevel gear |
| 19:27.21 | Shirik | don't you remember the days of blocking the entrance to MC? |
| 19:27.43 | kd3 | skeletons... skeletons everywhere |
| 19:27.44 | Shirik | I miss those days :( |
| 19:27.55 | Unkle | Shirik: I remember the days of block the entrance to Dire Maul |
| 19:27.57 | zenzelezz | and all the boards did shrink |
| 19:28.18 | Shirik | true story |
| 19:28.20 | Shirik | I never ran Dire Maul |
| 19:28.21 | Unkle | Want to ensure your faction wins most PVP early in a games life-cycle - prevent leveling. |
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| 19:31.00 | nightcracker | vanilla memoires |
| 19:31.44 | Shirik | looooooooool |
| 19:31.59 | Shirik | news alert: ACLU sues Obama over collection of phone logs |
| 19:36.33 | Fisker | speaking of being sued |
| 19:37.02 | Fisker | did we ever get anything out of that Blizzard authenticator lawsuit? |
| 19:37.15 | bluspacecow | lol no |
| 19:37.22 | Fisker | well obviously |
| 19:37.37 | Fisker | but did they find out themselves or did a judge have to smack them down? |
| 19:37.47 | bluspacecow | the benjamin bell case ? their legal team are incompetent |
| 19:38.03 | bluspacecow | https://www.dropbox.com/sh/kzbfnw8yp4kkuze/vHAN6Wwnlv |
| 19:38.11 | Fisker | the one where they claimed Blizzard were forcing people to buy authenticators or some shit |
| 19:38.17 | Fisker | because they weren't securing accounts good enough |
| 19:43.15 | Dagmar | I would have been very suprised to hear that made it past the discovery phase |
| 19:43.30 | Fisker | hahahha |
| 19:43.33 | Fisker | that's pretty fucking fun |
| 19:43.34 | Fisker | The Court and Blizzard are left to guess how Blizzard could possibly have had a duty in 2004 to inform Spellman he would have to buy a product that Blizzard would not offer until several years in the future. |
| 19:44.40 | Dagmar | I'd be interested in knowing how he intended to prove that Blizzard was leaking their user's passwords, because that would pretty much be required to demonstrate that Blizzard was at fault. |
| 19:45.05 | bluspacecow | gets better |
| 19:45.49 | bluspacecow | turns out according to delaware law (where Blizzard entertainment is incorporated) what was taken wasn't personal information |
| 19:46.01 | bluspacecow | so technically blizzard weren't obligated to tell us about that breach at all |
| 19:48.17 | Fisker | damn |
| 19:48.21 | Fisker | was hoping for juicy information |
| 19:48.37 | bluspacecow | hey fail to address more then a dozen arguments Blizzard made , made lots of claims without factual evidence, failed to show any damage being done under Delaware law (Blizzard Entertainment are a Delaware corp) , admitted the truth of facts that directly contradicts their claims , attempted to make Blizzards data breach as the latest in a line of security breaches depsite clear evidence to the contrary.... |
| 19:48.56 | bluspacecow | its all in the dropbox link I linked. two PDF of the court docs from law360.com |
| 19:49.08 | nevcairiel | these proceedings are always the same |
| 19:49.10 | nevcairiel | baseless |
| 19:49.17 | bluspacecow | They would of been better off using some neighbour hood kid with a law degree from the back of cereal box here. |
| 19:49.21 | bluspacecow | in fact |
| 19:49.33 | bluspacecow | they would of been better off with me representing them |
| 19:49.35 | bluspacecow | DOOMED |
| 19:49.52 | bluspacecow | "Because Plaintiffs have refused to provide sufficient identifying information for Blizzard to pinpoint their subscription history, Blizzard has had to deny that there is a contract between each Plaintiff and Blizzard. However, there are only two logical possibilities. Either each Plaintiff is a Battle.net subscriber or he is not. If he is, he has agreed to the TOUs. If he is not a Battle.net subscriber, this entire case is a |
| 19:49.53 | bluspacecow | fraud on the Court. Plaintiffs’ refusal to cooperate has left this ambiguity but that does not change the fact that it is uncontroverted that a contract governs this dispute and bars Plaintiffs’ unjust enrichment claims" |
| 19:49.57 | bluspacecow | and that's just a footnote |
| 19:53.19 | Fisker | i could probably have done a few "quite"'s and "esquire" |
| 19:55.18 | Fisker | btw bluspacecow |
| 19:55.25 | Fisker | did you track the case yourself or? |
| 19:55.39 | bluspacecow | i am currently |
| 19:55.44 | bluspacecow | what i can understand of it |
| 19:56.09 | Fisker | i meant do you find the documents yourself or what? |
| 19:56.25 | bluspacecow | law360 have a good page on it. you need a trial account to view it tho that only last 7 days tho |
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| 19:56.49 | Fisker | need a site dedicated to dumb fucks suing Blizzard |
| 19:58.01 | bluspacecow | maybe you could make one. |
| 20:03.43 | TC-work | bluspacecow: http://i.imgur.com/i8Vzxx5.png |
| 20:04.09 | VIad | :( |
| 20:04.12 | bluspacecow | i don't want your dumb ghost chips bro! |
| 20:05.20 | pompy | bluspacecow: is reed smith rep blizzard or the other person? |
| 20:05.32 | bluspacecow | Reed Smith is. |
| 20:08.39 | bluspacecow | AFAIK Reed Smith are defending Blizzard. Just checking that now. |
| 20:10.21 | bluspacecow | Yes they are defending them. Page 2 of one of those docs lists a Kathyleen O'Brien and 3 other names as Attorneys for Defendant Blizzard Entertainment. Page 1 lists her place of business as Reed Smith LLP. |
| 20:19.48 | pompy | yeah lol.. page 1 line 10 says "Attorneys for Defendant BLIZZARD ENTERTAINMENT, INC" |
| 20:23.05 | Ressy | bluspacecow: Check RECAP? |
| 20:24.05 | bluspacecow | wat dat |
| 20:24.14 | bluspacecow | is it icecream ? |
| 20:27.32 | kd3 | good grief. the ps used game instructional video's up to nearly 4m views |
| 20:28.38 | TC-work | Slightly mitigated by http://kotaku.com/third-party-publishers-will-have-final-say-on-used-game-512643240 |
| 20:29.24 | pompy | Ackis: http://n4g.com/news/1236553/sony-settles-lawsuit-over-1-million-in-free-games-themes-and-ps-discounts-available-in-canada lol did you ever read that? |
| 20:30.40 | Ressy | They emailed all PS users in Canada about that. |
| 20:30.56 | Ressy | my Canadian Gamers Organization co-founder got a settlement email about it. |
| 20:31.03 | bluspacecow | https://www.recapthelaw.org/ <--- dis one Ressy ? |
| 20:31.16 | Ressy | ya bluspacecow |
| 20:31.21 | bluspacecow | ty |
| 20:32.22 | Ressy | ah. nm. Nobody's recapped it. |
| 20:32.26 | Ressy | https://ia700709.us.archive.org/35/items/gov.uscourts.cacd.546991/gov.uscourts.cacd.546991.docket.html |
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| 21:00.49 | TC-work | "AMD wins race to 5GHz CPU clock speed, in which it was the sole participant" kek |
| 21:01.53 | kd3 | huh. an explosion at concourse D? good thing I didn't fly in today... |
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| 21:07.15 | g0urra | heh, that's an interesting definition http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Destiny_%28video_game%29 |
| 21:09.13 | TC-work | really should be fpsrpg |
| 21:12.10 | bleeter | kd3: d? |
| 21:12.20 | kd3 | http://www.ajc.com/news/news/local/hartsfield-concourse-evacuated-following-explosion/nYHfn/ |
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| 21:14.48 | bleeter | ffs I wish sites that simply didn't work on https just didn't talk on 443 at all |
| 21:18.19 | bluspacecow | ha ha |
| 21:18.30 | bluspacecow | BDA grabs its web feeds via port 443 |
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| 21:39.20 | Torhal | Seerah: You alive? |
| 21:39.40 | Seerah | yah |
| 21:39.44 | Seerah | barely ;) |
| 21:39.44 | pompy | Torhal: are you |
| 21:40.02 | bluspacecow | Torhal : You sexy ? |
| 21:40.21 | Unkle | Boundaries man, boundaries. |
| 21:40.25 | Torhal | tosses pompy to bluspacecow. |
| 21:40.29 | pompy | https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=631232080240127&set=a.133548883341785.20130.133409023355771&type=1 |
| 21:40.31 | Torhal | There's the boundaries. |
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| 22:31.57 | pompy | https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/922730_10151490270681973_818929588_n.jpg |
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| 22:48.42 | bleeter | for those those who care about this sorta thing, this particular Steam Pidgin plugin https://github.com/seishun/SteamPP violates GPL license http://www.reddit.com/r/Steam/comments/1g516h/steam_plugin_for_pidgin_updated/ https://github.com/seishun/SteamPP/issues/2 |
| 22:49.13 | foxlit | commence moral outrage routines? |
| 22:49.50 | bleeter | nah, headdesk routines |
| 22:49.51 | harl | steam.. pidgin.. plugin.. oO |
| 22:50.00 | bleeter | just some folks care about this sorta thing |
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| 22:50.53 | bleeter | harl: there's a plugin that doesn't break license, https://code.google.com/p/pidgin-opensteamworks/ |
| 22:51.39 | Neffi | MIT license all day |
| 22:52.25 | bleeter | Neffi: I'm still trying to work out what licence that person thinks they're using. in the reddit post, says GPL. The licence file on GitHub clearly isn't ;) |
| 22:57.31 | Neffi | http://i.imgur.com/Pl4y8q6.gif |
| 22:59.20 | bleeter | hehe |
| 23:01.04 | Ackis | pompy: I had no idea about it |
| 23:16.15 | Stanzilla | tab-size 4 or 8? /discuss |
| 23:16.31 | TC-work | ~lart Stanzilla |
| 23:16.31 | purl | plops Stanzilla into a giant vat of herring |
| 23:16.50 | Stanzilla | whyyy |
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| 23:17.46 | Ackis | anyone here have personal experience with a to-do list type app that syncs accross multiple PCs, android devices and apple devices? |
| 23:18.14 | Stanzilla | google keep? |
| 23:18.16 | Stanzilla | evernote? |
| 23:18.24 | Stanzilla | wunderlist? |
| 23:18.36 | bleeter | notepade? |
| 23:18.41 | bleeter | ... |
| 23:18.43 | bleeter | notepad? |
| 23:20.21 | Ackis | Stanzilla: dafuq is google keep? |
| 23:20.45 | Stanzilla | Ackis: https://drive.google.com/keep/u/0/ |
| 23:21.15 | bleeter | Ackis: an addon sorta like thing for google drive |
| 23:21.16 | Ackis | that seems basic and simplistic |
| 23:21.21 | Ackis | it looks wicked |
| 23:22.20 | bluspacecow | are they shareable ? |
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