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| 01:07.04 | Ackis | I saw a plumbing truck today with the company name of "Lord of the Drains". I was amused. |
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| 01:30.03 | Seerah | http://theoatmeal.com/comics/womancat better than last week's manbat? |
| 01:33.47 | Torhal | Ewww. |
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| 02:20.32 | TC-work | Since we use pyqt here at work for all of our gui stuff, is it worth it to learn the code or just use their gui builder? |
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| 03:37.52 | Ackis | anyone here going to the boston convention? |
| 04:00.09 | bleeter | http://i.imgur.com/OHgxFro.gif |
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| 04:34.15 | phelps | can you not require files ? |
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| 04:50.54 | Xuerian | phelps: You mean from inside Lua files? Just define it previously in the TOC and convey it in the namespace provided by ... |
| 04:51.54 | phelps | Xuerian |
| 04:52.00 | phelps | https://gist.github.com/benphelps/cfaea62ac63506837096 |
| 04:52.07 | phelps | the first is what I want |
| 04:52.11 | phelps | the second is what I have |
| 04:53.26 | Xuerian | Well, you could inject it in to the file's scope, but it really seems like it would make sense to just do something like engine.blah in your specific case. |
| 04:54.03 | phelps | how would I go about adding it to the scope ? |
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| 04:54.39 | phelps | https://gist.github.com/benphelps/b4edc52d643fac55ec9b |
| 04:54.42 | phelps | something like that ? |
| 04:57.34 | Xuerian | Probably the idea, but I'm not sure of the proper way to go about it, perhaps someone else is. Generally the accepted paradigm is lib = whatver, lib.etc. I don't see a lot of the "from lib import x" in addons. |
| 04:57.49 | phelps | yeah, I understand |
| 04:58.57 | Xuerian | Though so long as you stay out of the global scope no one should put your head on a pike |
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| 05:08.15 | Torhal | phelps: Seems overly-complicated. How long have you been dealing with Lua? |
| 05:08.30 | Torhal | One common mistake is to try to get Lua to work like other languages... |
| 05:08.38 | phelps | quite a decent amount of time |
| 05:08.43 | Torhal | Ok. |
| 05:09.14 | phelps | I'm just trying to stay out of the global name space |
| 05:09.22 | phelps | but keep tying to a minimum |
| 05:09.29 | phelps | typing * |
| 05:09.54 | nebula169 | so use locals or the addon table? |
| 05:10.10 | Torhal | You could define a method on ProbabilityEngine - like Init |
| 05:10.17 | Torhal | Well, no... |
| 05:10.27 | Torhal | You'd be typing self instead pf ProbabilityEngine at that point. |
| 05:10.33 | Torhal | Meh, I need to g oto bed. |
| 05:11.35 | Torhal | If you're doing many table lookups on the same sets of tables, you could just make a variable to reference the result of all the lookups. |
| 05:11.35 | phelps | I'll have a shorter non global namespace |
| 05:11.41 | Torhal | local target_data = ProbablyEngine.without.target |
| 05:11.50 | Torhal | target_data.debuff("Whatever") |
| 05:12.00 | Torhal | That's assuming you're doing those lookups a lot. |
| 05:12.21 | Torhal | Then using a init method would be advantageous. |
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| 05:20.56 | bleeter | Cairenn: http://i.imgur.com/vRsqmro.gif |
| 05:21.03 | Cairenn | awwwww |
| 05:32.51 | phelps | thats too damn cute |
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| 06:02.49 | Shirik | how is the cat doing that without hurting him |
| 06:03.40 | Cairenn | ??? |
| 06:03.58 | Cairenn | That's how mommy cats carry their babies |
| 06:04.03 | nebula169 | grabbed it by the scruff of the neck |
| 06:04.12 | Cairenn | yeah, that's normal |
| 06:09.05 | Mr_Rabies | they have stretchy loose skin in that area, and it's actually a pretty good way to put a cat in standby for a short while |
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| 06:14.35 | Xuerian | Scruff of the neck is super durable. Basically a cat-handle. They don't like it, but it doesn't hurt them. So basically what everyone else said. |
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| 06:17.59 | Cairenn | Actually, you shouldn't pick them up by the scruff of the neck when they are more than a few weeks old. |
| 06:18.28 | Cairenn | You can actually seriously hurt them by doing that when they are adult cats |
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| 06:19.26 | Cairenn | (unless you are also supporting their weight with your other hand under their butt or whatever) |
| 06:24.39 | Xuerian | Not suggesting you suitcase them, certainly. The combination of handle+offswitch is useful in handling though. |
| 06:24.53 | Cairenn | true :) |
| 06:44.13 | zenzio | it's always fun to watch the big cats (tigers, cheetahs, ...) carry their kids |
| 06:45.12 | Mr_Rabies | welp |
| 06:45.19 | Mr_Rabies | just ran an lfr with a bunch of dudes in Midwinter |
| 06:45.33 | Mr_Rabies | their TANK did over double my dps |
| 06:46.25 | zenzio | am I to guess that Midwinter is some high-end guild then? |
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| 06:48.06 | Mr_Rabies | yeah, i didn't realize it until i saw the charts and asked |
| 06:48.08 | Mr_Rabies | lol |
| 06:48.14 | Mr_Rabies | they said #4 on 25s or something |
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| 07:36.32 | nebula169 | 7 |
| 07:36.38 | nebula169 | who was the tank? |
| 07:37.01 | nebula169 | oh right in 25s |
| 07:44.17 | bleeter | I've often wondered if <Midwinter> is named (at least partially) for midwinter.com |
| 07:49.52 | airtonix | so Mr_Rabies, how does that make you feel? |
| 07:49.57 | airtonix | rabid? |
| 07:50.08 | Esamynn | ~poke airtonix |
| 07:50.08 | purl | ACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind airtonix, pokes airtonix repeatedly, hilarity ensues. |
| 07:50.51 | Esamynn | Cairenn: channel is still attracting the extremely sarcastic, as per always |
| 07:51.21 | Cairenn | looks at Esamynn with a shocked expression |
| 07:51.28 | airtonix | :) |
| 07:51.30 | Esamynn | :P |
| 07:52.03 | Mr_Rabies | airtonix: happy that i didn't have to endure a long lfr |
| 07:53.28 | Esamynn | I hear LFR can be pretty bad |
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| 07:57.09 | Esamynn | damnit, not even a nibble :( |
| 08:02.44 | Mr_Rabies | on consorts we killed the frost one before the fire one was up |
| 08:02.59 | Mr_Rabies | there was no third phase, it was a massacre |
| 08:07.58 | Sharparam | still no torhal? :/ |
| 08:14.12 | airtonix | why no torhal? |
| 08:18.28 | Sharparam | he has locked my repo :P |
| 08:19.28 | Alram | he's such a bully |
| 08:19.36 | Alram | send him some bacon |
| 08:19.40 | Alram | im sure everything will be fine then |
| 08:54.59 | Adys | did they revert the xrealming of dmf? |
| 08:56.46 | Adys | nvm |
| 08:57.08 | Kalroth | xD |
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| 09:28.43 | bleeter | http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2013/jun/04/eight-prehistoric-boats-bronze-age |
| 09:29.00 | bleeter | tackle hugs Sixen |
| 09:30.16 | karl_w_w | gets a bucket of blue paint and smurfs his load all over bleeter |
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| 10:06.57 | Fisker | hugtackles Sixen |
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| 10:35.41 | Cruciformer | hello fellow wow hackers :) |
| 10:35.58 | Cruciformer | Is there an API I can use to determine if I am in an LFR versus a normal raid? |
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| 10:45.51 | Semlar | i think GetInstanceInfo returns a difficulty ID for LFR |
| 10:46.05 | Semlar | Cruciformer |
| 10:46.14 | Cruciformer | looking now .... |
| 10:46.50 | Cruciformer | bingo thats it ... thank you very much Semlar |
| 10:46.58 | Semlar | no problem |
| 10:50.08 | airtonix | Cruciformer: this isn't the channel to talk about hacking wow. |
| 10:50.30 | Cruciformer | airtronix: huh? |
| 10:51.25 | Cruciformer | maybe you should read past the generic greeting using the term "hacker" meaning "smart programmer" before getting on your high horse, yes? |
| 10:56.52 | mikma_ | dont mind abour airtonix. hes an ass. with hole. |
| 10:57.13 | airtonix | a wholesome ass |
| 10:58.16 | Cruciformer | I forget what show it was I saw recently but the quote was something a long the lines of "he isnt just an asshole, he's the whole ass". Oh yeah now I remember - the Big C. |
| 10:58.39 | Cruciformer | but airtonix isnt an ass he just didnt read enough past my greeting :) |
| 10:59.43 | airtonix | oh so everything you say has multiple meanings? |
| 11:00.56 | Cruciformer | No ... but "hello fellow wow hackers" does not mean, to most normal non-paranoiaics, "hello fellow people who want to break the blizzard TOS/EULA and hack the game client". Especially when followed almost immediately by a question about the API. |
| 11:01.16 | airtonix | :) |
| 11:04.12 | Cruciformer | I'm just surprised people are still using my mod and I have to take LFR into account :) |
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| 11:11.42 | airtonix | can you buy tv shows on google play yet? |
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| 11:12.34 | Cruciformer | Not at all sure. Never looked. Google play is purely a means to installing androis spyware ... I mean ... cool apps for my S4 :P |
| 11:12.48 | Cruciformer | s/androis/Android/ |
| 11:14.12 | airtonix | blasphemer! |
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| 11:14.39 | Cruciformer | "Look, all I said to my wife was 'that piece of hallbut was good enough for Jehova'" |
| 11:15.54 | Cruciformer | (do I get points for quoting Life of Brian?) |
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| 11:26.45 | zenzio | Cruciformer... now that's a name I've not heard in a long time... a long time. |
| 11:27.31 | Cruciformer | zenzio: indeed :) How are you doing? |
| 11:27.50 | zenzio | pretty well. Surprisingly busy |
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| 11:28.06 | Cruciformer | I was too until a week ago when I was fired from the best job Ive ever had :( |
| 11:28.17 | zenzio | ouch, what happened? |
| 11:29.09 | Cruciformer | being south african, being blunt is in my makeup. Apparently that didnt go over well with teh bleeding heart, PC, bunny-hugging, liberal do-gooders in an ultra-liberal portland based company. |
| 11:30.04 | Cruciformer | so the official reason was that I didnt gell well with teh team. The ACTUAl reason was that I just told it like it really was one too many times :) |
| 11:30.35 | Cruciformer | (my kingdom for someone who can undo my muscle memory so I can type the word THE correctly) |
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| 11:31.38 | Cruciformer | and what's been keeping you busy? hopefully gainful employment |
| 11:35.06 | zenzio | switched job recently (well, employer... same job description, different company) |
| 11:35.50 | zenzio | but privately I'm currently reading A Song of Ice and Fire, working on two for-fun coding projects, looking into Unity (the game engine) |
| 11:36.11 | Cruciformer | well if you guys are hiring and need a talented C / UNIX guy (ex Google employee) with 25 years experience, let me know :) I can only telecommute. |
| 11:36.38 | Cruciformer | I just finished SoIaF ... well as far as he's written it. |
| 11:36.59 | zenzio | my brother, who normally barely reads, blasted through that whole series |
| 11:37.10 | Cruciformer | I'm now re-reading the 2nd last Wheel of Time book so I can read the last one. |
| 11:37.16 | zenzio | he's annoyed with me cause I haven't gotten past early second book |
| 11:37.32 | Fisker | god damn schedule view in outlook |
| 11:37.35 | Cruciformer | hehe ... the first book was one of my favourites actually. |
| 11:37.50 | zenzio | Wheel of Time, that's a pretty large series, isn't it? |
| 11:37.50 | Cruciformer | hey Fisker ... long time no insult :) |
| 11:38.03 | Cruciformer | zenzio yeah I think 14 books |
| 11:38.08 | bleeter | Fisker: |
| 11:39.05 | Cruciformer | zenzio: parts of it are as slow as a wolly mammoth wading through a lake of cold molasses but overall wheel of time is pretty damned good. |
| 11:39.45 | zenzio | perhaps I'll have to give it a try eventually... when I have *time* |
| 11:39.50 | Cruciformer | its my second favourite fantasy series, after Roger Zelazny's much MUCh shorter but vastly more readable "Amber" series. |
| 11:40.09 | zenzio | dont't think I've heard about that one |
| 11:40.10 | Cruciformer | which is only 10 books but they are small. |
| 11:40.24 | Cruciformer | starts with a book called "Nine Princes in Amber". |
| 11:40.36 | zenzio | how long are the typical Wheel of Time books? |
| 11:40.37 | Cruciformer | *highly* entertaining. |
| 11:40.55 | Cruciformer | WoT usually run 850-1100 pages. |
| 11:41.11 | bleeter | heh GoT... I just tried trolling Martin by pointing out that, despite his previous complaints about Nebula Awards, JMS (who quit due to Martin et al's attitude to screwenwriting) has a Bradbury and Martin doesn't. |
| 11:41.15 | Cruciformer | Amber on the other hand are all about 300-ish. |
| 11:41.58 | bleeter | I wonder if JMS would complain, though, about my poor typing of the word 'screenwriting' ... |
| 11:42.48 | Cruciformer | I gett he impression from what Ive read of him that JMS (if you mean the dude that did Babylon 5) would complain about just about ANYTHING :) |
| 11:42.59 | zenzio | JMS? |
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| 11:43.08 | Cruciformer | J Michael Stazinsky (sp?) |
| 11:43.27 | Cruciformer | Strazinsky .... is a bit closer. Still not right I dont think. |
| 11:43.51 | bluworkcow | ~wowstatus |
| 11:43.51 | purl | wowstatus is probably http://battle.net/wow/en/status |
| 11:43.57 | bluworkcow | ~d3status |
| 11:43.58 | purl | http://us.battle.net/d3/en/status (US) or http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/status (EU) |
| 11:45.45 | Cruciformer | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._Michael_Straczynski |
| 11:46.07 | karl_w_w | this pet battle team is so fun I feel like frapsing it |
| 11:46.19 | karl_w_w | if only I had fraps |
| 11:46.50 | Cruciformer | I have near-infinite confidence in your ability to acquire fraps if you want to :) |
| 11:46.58 | zenzio | you could download it karl_w_w |
| 11:47.21 | airtonix | or since you don't need it. just go without. |
| 11:48.21 | bluworkcow | *runs to starbucks to fetch karl_w_w a frappicuno* |
| 11:48.42 | airtonix | cowpicuno? |
| 11:48.50 | bluworkcow | yay! |
| 11:49.13 | Cruciformer | brb |
| 11:49.25 | Cruciformer | gotta figure out how to reset my password in subversion |
| 11:50.11 | airtonix | lol |
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| 12:07.49 | airtonix | http://i.imgur.com/2nBZC0k.png |
| 12:08.22 | Motig | try http://geoguessr.com/ |
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| 12:08.38 | zenzio | I keep reading that as George USSR |
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| 12:59.44 | Cruciformer | Anyone know of either a function or a good string subst pattern than will capitalise wow names correctly? |
| 13:02.28 | haste | str:gsub('%l', string.upper) |
| 13:02.31 | haste | str:gsub('^%l', string.upper) |
| 13:02.47 | haste | is the typical way of doing it, but I don't remember if WoW's string.upper was magical or not |
| 13:03.03 | haste | you might have to deal with multi-byte characters like å yourself |
| 13:03.51 | Stanzilla | wow has utf8 functions now! |
| 13:05.48 | Cruciformer | This is what I had before (this courtest of Arrowmaster): return gsub(strlower (name), "^([\192-\255]?%a?[\128-\191]*)", strupper, 1) |
| 13:06.26 | Cruciformer | and when using /dump everything seems to work OK but it seems to return a different string to the user's actual name |
| 13:06.41 | Cruciformer | by "work OK" i mean "look OK" |
| 13:07.41 | Semlar | what is it currently doing wrong |
| 13:09.17 | Cruciformer | I store some info in a table indexed by player name. If someone added a user to that table using a command (in which case I use the above function) it stores it in the table OK ... but when I go to look up the user in the table later based on the unit name, it doesn't find it. |
| 13:11.35 | Semlar | you're doing the same thing to the name both times? |
| 13:11.53 | Cruciformer | (but for characters that use normal letters it works fine) |
| 13:13.21 | Semlar | are you getting the name in different ways |
| 13:14.06 | Cruciformer | No ... once its in the table in the form that something like ... ummm ... GetUnitName() [which may not exist but you get my meaning] returns I shouldn't need to do it again, it should be correct to start with. |
| 13:14.07 | Semlar | i know some of the functions might include the realm |
| 13:14.44 | Cruciformer | For this particular case I don't support cross-realm (its a guild loot mod for the suicide kings loot system) |
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| 14:37.38 | VIad | Semlar: what do you think http://www.bluebyte.no ? :P |
| 14:38.18 | Semlar | i think some of this is in another language |
| 14:38.27 | VIad | hehe |
| 14:38.43 | Lopeppeppy | Storify, what is this social media crap? *sigh* |
| 14:39.27 | Semlar | you may want to list specific services |
| 14:39.41 | VIad | yeah I am not yet at the goal |
| 14:41.10 | VIad | you like my anti-spam measurement? :P |
| 14:44.01 | VIad | placed names, mail and phone in special tags for css to view correctly, and added a bunch of invisible padding |
| 14:44.41 | Semlar | can't copy and paste it though |
| 14:44.45 | VIad | yeah |
| 14:45.13 | VIad | can add captcha for mail but thought meh, not like it's too hard to write the mail |
| 14:46.34 | nevcairiel | you should rather get a good spam filter isntead of doing such silly things |
| 14:46.46 | VIad | can make a captcha :P |
| 14:46.48 | Semlar | you could use a form |
| 14:47.02 | Semlar | so people could contact you without having to send an email |
| 14:47.02 | VIad | still gonna use this silly thing for names and phonenumber |
| 14:47.18 | VIad | yeah I was planning to add a form for contact actually |
| 14:47.23 | VIad | and make my own captcha :D |
| 14:47.36 | nevcairiel | the inconvenience for people trying to copy it when contacting you would not be worth that shit for me |
| 14:47.54 | VIad | you say that like everyone knows how to copy and paste :P |
| 14:48.01 | VIad | at work I see people that still can't ;) |
| 14:48.25 | Semlar | well, you don't want to change expected functionality |
| 14:48.41 | VIad | what do you mean Semlar? |
| 14:49.00 | Semlar | they expect when they copy your email address that it is going to copy your email address |
| 14:49.06 | VIad | yeah |
| 14:49.07 | VIad | ofc |
| 14:49.10 | Semlar | so when they go to paste it they may not notice that it isn't what they copied |
| 14:49.23 | Semlar | or if they do they won't know why |
| 14:49.34 | VIad | I agree |
| 14:50.32 | Semlar | this goes for everything you design, while it may be tempting to deviate from the norm, you really shouldn't |
| 14:50.46 | VIad | of course |
| 14:51.36 | VIad | I take it anything not mentioned is superb :P |
| 14:51.49 | VIad | that you like the look and feel |
| 14:51.57 | nevcairiel | more like mediocre |
| 14:52.30 | nevcairiel | the default bootstrap layout is quite obvious |
| 14:52.43 | Semlar | the design is fine i just don't know what you do |
| 14:52.44 | VIad | I like it simple |
| 14:53.23 | nevcairiel | i think its somewhat odd that your page is half english |
| 14:53.27 | nevcairiel | stick to one language |
| 14:53.36 | VIad | not supposed to be in english :P |
| 14:53.51 | VIad | just wasn't sure when I started, but now I am |
| 14:54.00 | VIad | also the bottom part is just placeholder atm |
| 14:54.11 | Fisker | hey nevcairiel |
| 14:54.12 | Fisker | i farted |
| 14:54.13 | Semlar | what's it supposed to be |
| 14:54.27 | VIad | well Semlar at first probably nothing :P |
| 14:54.37 | VIad | later on can write stuff there I guess, like bulletins |
| 14:58.49 | VIad | nevcairiel: everything is always changing, what you see isn't the final thing :P |
| 14:59.12 | VIad | was just showing how far I got for some feedback, and I got what I came for ;) |
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| 15:31.04 | Lopeppeppy | Bless you. |
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| 16:25.46 | VIad | Semlar: nice comment about Ace - pray nevcairiel don't read it ;d |
| 16:26.10 | Semlar | i didn't say nothin |
| 16:26.18 | VIad | forums |
| 16:26.33 | Semlar | i think that was sdphantom |
| 16:26.54 | VIad | ah lol - yes, I was closing the tab and behind it was your post :P |
| 16:27.56 | Semlar | i mean, i don't use ace either but i don't go around telling people it's pointless |
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| 16:42.17 | VIad | to me its just trivial stuff tbh :P |
| 16:42.43 | VIad | no mater what people say if the baseline point is "you suck I am better" then I ignore it :P |
| 16:43.47 | Unkle | You suck. I'm better. |
| 16:44.19 | Lopeppeppy | I suck, I'm better. *grin8 |
| 16:44.36 | Unkle | Lopeppeppy: You're a naughty girl. Go to my room. |
| 16:44.59 | Lopeppeppy | Inevitably. |
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| 19:17.17 | durcyn | fucking halfassed residential ipv6 implementations |
| 19:20.46 | mitchnull | halfassed is better than none at all though |
| 19:21.03 | Fisker | hugs durcyn |
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| 19:27.02 | TC-work | http://www.amazon.com/Azio-Levetron-Mechanical-Keyboard-KB577U/dp/B008CXTW5G?tag=613240924-20 seriously silly looking keyboard. |
| 19:29.22 | zenzelezz | I would have to agree |
| 19:31.18 | kd3 | was wondering how long it was going to take for one of these to pop up: https://twitter.com/RedWeddingTears |
| 19:34.41 | TC-work | That GoT stuff is making me so happy it's going to make the planet implode. |
| 19:36.30 | nevcairiel | i think its a sign that a show is truely amazing if it can invoke emotional reactions like that |
| 19:37.33 | TC-work | Emotion yes. Nothing but hatred....I dunno. |
| 19:37.49 | zenzelezz | now, now, that's not true |
| 19:38.00 | nevcairiel | its just those emo people that cry on the interwebs |
| 19:38.03 | zenzelezz | Arya's pretty kick-ass, and The Hound is turning out pretty cool too |
| 19:38.07 | nevcairiel | don't conclude thats the whole reaction |
| 19:38.23 | kd3 | it's a grief reaction... what's one of the first stages of grief? |
| 19:39.02 | zenzelezz | early pool and no gas |
| 19:39.29 | VIad | why is "Kor'kron Supply Satchel" unique? |
| 19:39.37 | VIad | got a drop but can't loot it :( already got one |
| 19:39.51 | Mr_Rabies | most free bigger bags are unique |
| 19:41.48 | VIad | should just have it low drop but not unique :( |
| 19:44.33 | VIad | for a world pvp patch, very little pvp in the "weekly daily" pvp zone of barrens :P |
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| 19:58.03 | Stanzilla | it's not a world pvp patch |
| 19:59.38 | VIad | sure they try :P |
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