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| 00:56.32 | Shirik | I have to fly on Delta :( |
| 00:57.58 | VIad | http://imgur.com/gallery/LyuZK82 |
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| 01:02.52 | kd3|hate`net | yeowch. new phone means much larger filesize photos |
| 01:08.36 | TC-work | kd3: you can modify that. |
| 01:09.47 | kd3 | also, woo. direct from china, my citizen card: http://kaydeethree.net/i/citizen_card.jpg |
| 01:11.19 | Shirik | confused for a moment |
| 01:11.20 | TC-work | I had 0 interest in getting one of those |
| 01:11.29 | Shirik | thought kd3 became chinese citizen |
| 01:11.48 | TC-work | that would be red star citizen |
| 01:12.16 | kd3 | I was a bit confused getting a letter from china... wasn't expecting direct delivery |
| 01:12.17 | Shirik | what is star citizen? |
| 01:12.33 | kd3 | http://robertsspaceindustries.com/star-citizen/ |
| 01:12.48 | kd3 | space sim game, was on kickstarter |
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| 01:14.30 | Shirik | is it any good? (released yet?) |
| 01:14.33 | VIad | http://imgur.com/gallery/K6mCkej |
| 01:14.39 | kd3 | not out yet |
| 01:14.44 | VIad | laugh of the imgur stuff I post, laugh! |
| 01:15.59 | TC-work | just because people don't type it out does not mean they are not laughing |
| 01:17.10 | pompy | Cairenn: http://www.google.com/search?q=fluffy+puppies&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=tfmnUeTlH4X50gHxpIGgAw&sqi=2&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAQ&biw=1920&bih=978 |
| 01:17.57 | Cairenn | awwwwwww |
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| 01:27.03 | pompy | https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151563586636598&set=a.18422236597.25127.508431597&type=1 lol wow |
| 01:30.17 | VIad | http://imgur.com/gallery/CwjA7Z1 :D |
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| 02:20.50 | kd3|hate`net | http://phys.org/news/2013-05-first-ever-high-resolution-images-molecule-reforms.html |
| 02:21.12 | kd3 | it's almost like the models we were taught in school about molecular bonding are right or something |
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| 02:34.29 | Arrowmaster | another thing to hate about hot summers, wiping bug guts off youre monitor |
| 02:35.01 | TC-work | I have never had an issue with that |
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| 02:56.26 | Gnarfoz | us neither, summer refuses to materialize this year |
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| 02:58.27 | TC-work | Hmm...I seem to have found an impossibility. A sedan with a v6, HID/Xenon headlights, for 31K or under. |
| 02:59.22 | Arrowmaster | a sedan? |
| 02:59.24 | Arrowmaster | no fun |
| 02:59.50 | TC-work | not sure you could find it in a coupe either |
| 03:00.10 | Arrowmaster | why do i need a v6 in a coupe? |
| 03:00.33 | TC-work | I tested a twin turbo v4 coupe, not enough kick in the pants |
| 03:00.43 | Arrowmaster | i want a GT86 but i dont think they sell it in the US so BRZ instead |
| 03:01.19 | Arrowmaster | what coupe did you test? |
| 03:01.19 | TC-work | Arrowmaster: the other one is much better from all the reading I have been doing |
| 03:01.30 | TC-work | Hyundai Genesis Coupe 3.8 Track |
| 03:01.39 | Arrowmaster | GT86 and BRZ are the exact same car |
| 03:01.53 | TC-work | you mean the FR-S? |
| 03:02.27 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 03:03.03 | TC-work | well the FR-S is identical to the BRZ, same body. |
| 03:03.07 | TC-work | and other things |
| 03:03.27 | Arrowmaster | wasnt aware of that |
| 03:03.48 | TC-work | Everything I have read said scion did a better job than subaru |
| 03:04.06 | Arrowmaster | didnt know scion was part of it |
| 03:04.55 | Arrowmaster | toyota and subaru created the gt86/brz together |
| 03:06.27 | TC-work | "The 86 is sold under three different brands associated with its creators, Toyota and Subaru. Toyota (Toyota 86 in Japan, South Africa and Australia[1] and Toyota GT86 in Europe and both names in New Zealand), Subaru (Subaru BRZ) andScion (Scion FR-S for the United States and Canada)." |
| 03:06.32 | TC-work | well, there we go |
| 03:06.49 | Arrowmaster | yeah was just checking the wiki page too |
| 03:07.25 | TC-work | And like I said, I have been doing a lot of research and the FR-S comes out ahead of the BCRZ every time. |
| 03:07.31 | TC-work | BRZ* |
| 03:08.12 | Arrowmaster | look at the curb weight of the genesis coupe and the gt86* |
| 03:08.36 | Arrowmaster | thats why it was slugish, the thing is a beast |
| 03:09.12 | Arrowmaster | 500 more pounds can make a big difference |
| 03:09.14 | TC-work | 0-60 is still about 10 seconds faster |
| 03:09.22 | TC-work | for the genesis |
| 03:09.29 | Arrowmaster | what? |
| 03:09.49 | Arrowmaster | how slow is the FR-S |
| 03:10.00 | TC-work | 6.2 seconds is the best I saw |
| 03:10.05 | TC-work | 5.2 for the genesis |
| 03:10.26 | Arrowmaster | my little saturn is similar |
| 03:11.11 | TC-work | I lied, the 3.8 track is a V6 |
| 03:11.20 | TC-work | still had no kick to it |
| 03:12.18 | TC-work | My 20 year old chevy has more kick. |
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| 03:24.51 | Arrowmaster | you know it is good to see car prices starting to go down again, few years ago $17k was the lowest you could find a new car for |
| 03:25.46 | Arrowmaster | still crazy inflation though since in 02 my mom bought a new car for $9999 |
| 03:31.21 | TC-work | ~$13K seems to be the cheapest I could find |
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| 04:41.07 | Cairenn | astoo: wow/data folder |
| 04:41.19 | astoo | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:41.40 | Cairenn | more correctly, wow/data/sound |
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| 04:44.02 | Cairenn | :) |
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| 04:44.13 | Cairenn | lol |
| 04:44.16 | astoo | *kiss |
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| 04:44.22 | Cairenn | hehehe |
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| 04:44.33 | Cairenn | naw, it was amusing |
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| 04:44.45 | Thunder_Child | That happens more often than you think around here. |
| 04:44.49 | Cairenn | ^^ |
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| 04:47.19 | Ackis | Torhal: http://youtu.be/IJNR2EpS0jw |
| 04:48.24 | Torhal | WTF Ackis? |
| 04:48.25 | Torhal | o.O |
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| 04:53.15 | Ackis | :D |
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| 05:09.33 | Arrowmaster | Ackis, pompy, Parnic: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=571377 |
| 05:10.03 | Ackis | yeah I read about it on reddit Arrowmaster... I don't trust them |
| 05:10.21 | Arrowmaster | i just 'purchased' most of them |
| 05:10.28 | Arrowmaster | in case its an error |
| 05:13.32 | Arrowmaster | oh i guess there is confirmation that its not an error |
| 05:13.32 | Ackis | Arrowmaster: did you get any of "can't be purcased from this device"? |
| 05:13.40 | Arrowmaster | yes i did |
| 05:15.29 | Arrowmaster | this does seem like a 'good pr before the shit hits the fan about the xbox one' move |
| 05:16.05 | Ackis | yeah |
| 05:16.16 | Ackis | I'm not really excited about the xbox one or even the ps4 |
| 05:16.48 | Arrowmaster | steambox! |
| 05:17.20 | Ackis | can't you already do that if you have a cable or two? :P |
| 05:17.36 | Arrowmaster | yes but steambox means more linux games |
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| 05:59.19 | Ackis | http://www.reddit.com/r/aww/comments/1fe0nj/took_our_poms_out_for_a_trim_they_came_home_like/ |
| 05:59.25 | Ackis | cuteness overload |
| 06:00.33 | Ackis | Cairenn: that's what our poms look like today after the grooming |
| 06:00.48 | Cairenn | awwww |
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| 06:40.56 | pompy | http://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/1f6ug6/my_girlfriends_brother_found_a_snake_at_work/ wtff |
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| 07:13.30 | nevcairiel | not going to move to australia |
| 07:22.07 | Maldivia | nevcairiel: Here are some other reasons: http://www.australiangeographic.com.au/journal/top-30-deadly-animals-in-australia.htm |
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| 07:54.48 | nevcairiel | rank 2, the default honey bee? |
| 07:54.49 | nevcairiel | :P |
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| 08:02.29 | bluspacecow | honey bee ? |
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| 08:47.10 | Maldivia | bluspacecow: yeah, it's one of the deadliest creatures, because so many people are allergic |
| 08:47.33 | bluspacecow | wasn't aware they had ranks |
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| 09:13.02 | karl_w_w | bluspacecow |
| 09:13.05 | karl_w_w | fix the forums |
| 09:13.15 | bluspacecow | wat |
| 09:13.36 | karl_w_w | it's hard to flame people when quotes aren't being labelled properly |
| 09:13.43 | bluspacecow | :( |
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| 09:53.05 | karl_w_w | so crossing a subzone closes the loot window |
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| 11:17.08 | karl_w_w | blingtron is seriously bugged |
| 11:17.30 | karl_w_w | I'm looting his ass multiple times a day |
| 11:19.37 | Kalroth | hot |
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| 11:20.36 | Wobin | Antiarc: That twitter account isn't really used. It's just as a test account I've not looked at for ages |
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| 11:44.33 | sintAcks | you can't change viewport shit in combat, right... |
| 11:48.42 | Sintacks | hmm. i could, if i can figure out the trigger event, just put code into one of the kgpanels that is why I want to viewport's scripts shit thingy .... hmm |
| 11:54.12 | zenzio | it rattles me to go through a code base where "queue" is consistently spelled "que" |
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| 12:20.32 | Adys | nevcairiel: how come you don't use some of blizzard's builtin settings for action bars? it's a bit confusing eg. for "cast action keybinds on key down" |
| 12:24.58 | Sintacks | who had that addon that would capture every single event that happend and give you a list ... |
| 12:25.49 | Semlar | etrace? |
| 12:25.57 | Sintacks | that might be it |
| 12:26.09 | Semlar | the in-game event viewer? |
| 12:26.22 | Sintacks | i think |
| 12:26.27 | Semlar | you can just type /etrace |
| 12:26.30 | Semlar | or /eventtrace |
| 12:26.51 | Sintacks | i see that now that i found the wowpedia article lol |
| 12:26.51 | mikma_ | http://imgur.com/gallery/JXSQNci |
| 12:29.24 | Sintacks | hmm. there's no event for alt+z :( |
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| 12:31.02 | Semlar | doesn't it just hide the uiparent? |
| 12:31.15 | Sintacks | the only two that do are modifier_state_changed (in and out) and world_map_update fires when the UI comes back |
| 12:31.18 | Sintacks | it does |
| 12:31.32 | Sintacks | i guess i could watch for that and run on that |
| 12:31.35 | Semlar | have you tried UIParent:HookScript('OnHide', function() end) |
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| 12:31.59 | Sintacks | i will now |
| 12:32.12 | Sintacks | OnShow for when it comes back, correct? |
| 12:32.19 | Semlar | yep |
| 12:33.32 | Sintacks | hmm. i could actually just put the code straight into the onshow/onhide script functions in a kgpanel, with an if for combatlockdown now that i look at it |
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| 13:03.03 | Sintacks | huggles Semlar |
| 13:03.13 | Semlar | suffocates |
| 13:03.22 | Sintacks | oops |
| 13:04.49 | Sintacks | yay doing tech suppiort for some dumbass in my guild via whispers |
| 13:05.03 | Sintacks | i should have never said anything about knowing what i was doing |
| 13:06.16 | Sintacks | yay. now i have a viewport and i'm not missing a quarter of my screen |
| 13:06.25 | Sintacks | but now shit isn't centered around toon D: |
| 13:07.14 | bluspacecow | oh noes! |
| 13:07.21 | bluspacecow | *centers it* |
| 13:07.27 | Sintacks | yay |
| 13:07.33 | Sintacks | windows exploer crashed |
| 13:07.35 | Sintacks | explorer* |
| 13:08.49 | Maldivia | Sintacks: I liked it better when you could create several Worldframes :) |
| 13:09.07 | Sintacks | lol rearview mirror |
| 13:09.12 | Maldivia | exactly |
| 13:09.54 | Sintacks | i have a copy of Iron Man 3 on my computer ... |
| 13:09.55 | Sintacks | dafuq |
| 13:10.07 | Sintacks | oh. yeah. cuz it was on youtube. and i downloaded it. lololol |
| 13:10.11 | Sintacks | but i'm not watching it |
| 13:10.16 | Sintacks | cuz it's fucking shite quailty |
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| 14:08.23 | Adys | Well |
| 14:08.32 | Adys | now that I have 16gb memory, wow consumes a lot less ram for some reason |
| 14:08.55 | zenzio | it's given up trying to fill it |
| 14:08.56 | mikma_ | because it can |
| 14:09.52 | Adys | it seems it's stopped leaking memory altogether |
| 14:10.19 | mikma_ | because it.... WHAT? |
| 14:10.23 | Adys | it's been sitting around 2gb for over half an hour |
| 14:10.40 | Dagmar | No idea. I've never seen mine leaking |
| 14:10.41 | Adys | this shit used to take 6gb |
| 14:10.56 | Adys | eheheh |
| 14:11.01 | Adys | Cairenn: for the topic: <Dagmar> No idea. I've never seen mine leaking |
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| 14:11.56 | Dagmar | Adys: It may be doing like java does... taking a look at how much memory you have and making decisions about how much it should ask for based on that |
| 14:11.57 | Maldivia | Adys: fly around, cross a few zone borders :P |
| 14:12.03 | Adys | Maldivia: im on it |
| 14:12.06 | Dagmar | ...which it could be getting entirely ass-backwards. |
| 14:12.15 | Adys | Dagmar: i was thinking the same thing |
| 14:16.26 | Adys | Maldivia: I've run every teleport I have (brawlers, vale, hillsbrad, dalaran, shattrath, tol barad, theramore, exodar, darnassus, ironforge, stormwind, black temple, blackrock depths, blades edge, gadgetzan, argent tournament, townlong steppes, isle of thunder, jade forest and badlands) |
| 14:16.46 | Adys | wow is taking 2.6gb |
| 14:16.49 | Adys | barely more than before |
| 14:17.31 | Adys | IF IT WERE DOING THIS IN THE FIRST PLACE I WOULDNT NEED MORE RAM T_T |
| 14:19.49 | nevcairiel | Adys: mostly because i had the options before wow did, secondly because people open bt options when trying to change bt settings (and trying to sync them will most likely result in tainty badness), thirdly (is that a thing?) because its not blizzard action bars =p |
| 14:20.04 | Sintacks | lol. i can see more on teh sides with this viewport |
| 14:20.14 | Maldivia | Adys: mount up, and fly on the edge between two zones, with view distance cranked up, and then cross from zone to zone |
| 14:20.26 | Sintacks | like, a whole 8 to 10 yards on each side |
| 14:20.30 | Adys | Maldivia: whats that supposed to do |
| 14:20.46 | Maldivia | Adys: well, that used to crash wow with out of memory error :) |
| 14:21.11 | Maldivia | especially for corners where 3 zones meet |
| 14:23.27 | Adys | Maldivia: when you say cross, you just mean so i get the message on screen that im in a new zone? |
| 14:23.43 | Adys | cause now its at 3gb but i cant get it higher |
| 14:24.01 | Adys | and its still half of what it was consuming before after 10 mins in town |
| 14:28.57 | Adys | nevcairiel: wasn't talking about syncing them |
| 14:29.06 | Adys | just using it, and providing the 2nd checkbox in the options |
| 14:30.19 | pompy | https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/581297_463638220384597_1034688795_n.jpg |
| 14:31.11 | Sintacks | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:33.08 | Adys | Sintacks: wow.exe |
| 14:33.11 | Adys | not wow-64.exe |
| 14:33.16 | Adys | wow64 consumes a lot more |
| 14:33.19 | Sintacks | wow.exe *32 |
| 14:33.29 | Semlar | my wow isn't even using 1gb |
| 14:33.55 | Adys | yeah well im talking about wow-64 with all options maxed out :P |
| 14:34.28 | Semlar | yeah i just have everything on high |
| 14:34.37 | Sintacks | everyone on ultra |
| 14:34.41 | Sintacks | everythnig* |
| 14:34.59 | Semlar | except i have ground clutter on low |
| 14:35.07 | Sintacks | lol. i port away from where i was, and it drops to 2GB |
| 14:35.35 | Sintacks | port away again, and it drops to 1.7 |
| 14:37.03 | Sintacks | i ended the raid last night with 512MB of addon memory usage |
| 14:38.22 | Sintacks | down to 1.6 now |
| 14:38.26 | Sintacks | that doesn't even make wsense |
| 14:38.48 | Semlar | what addon was using that much memory |
| 14:39.01 | Sintacks | sitting around shrine, doing nothing. 2.4GB of ram. port everywhere i can, and it just drops and drops |
| 14:39.10 | Sintacks | hearth back to shrine. back up to 2.4Gb |
| 14:39.22 | Sintacks | lol Semlar. DeathNote was using 230MB of it |
| 14:39.26 | Rythal | bleh... why does alliance suck at BG's :/ been trying for 2 hours now to get kotmogu for legendary.... best score was horde 1600 - alliance 200 :( |
| 14:39.44 | Semlar | 230MB oO |
| 14:39.48 | Sintacks | lol |
| 14:39.58 | Sintacks | i have settings at max. 500 deaths, 60 seconds of history |
| 14:40.02 | Sintacks | memory hog |
| 14:40.09 | Rythal | O.o 230MB? damn... even Carbonite isn't that bad... and it's the worst addon I know of for memory |
| 14:40.56 | Sintacks | Zygor uses ~47MB. Deathnote was around 230MB. recount was low, cuz it wasn't collecting. WeakAuras config had been opened, and i think mine gets up to 40 when it's open. |
| 14:41.02 | Sintacks | i don't know what else was using so much |
| 14:41.22 | Sintacks | yeah. WA is 34MB. it used to be 47, before i cleaned it up |
| 14:49.10 | karl_w_w | the map is truly fucked up in northrend |
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| 14:55.15 | Unkle | station. |
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| 15:57.32 | Lopeppeppy | I still need a nail gun |
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| 15:59.52 | bluspacecow | *hides* |
| 16:05.09 | Unkle | http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2013/05/asus-brings-4k-to-your-desktop-with-massive-31-5-3840x2160-monitor/ |
| 16:05.13 | Unkle | WANT |
| 16:07.34 | Cairenn | nice |
| 16:09.26 | Unkle | High pixel density display for the desktop... YES PLX |
| 16:09.45 | Shirik | now what's it going to cost |
| 16:09.53 | Cairenn | ^^ |
| 16:10.49 | Rythal | I want one.... |
| 16:10.54 | Rythal | hell I want 3 |
| 16:10.59 | Unkle | Pricing "tab" |
| 16:11.04 | Unkle | er, tba |
| 16:11.21 | Unkle | I'm going to go with $1500 - 2000 |
| 16:11.36 | Unkle | So, start saving your pennies kids. |
| 16:12.02 | Rythal | Cairenn will buy us all one.. I heard she's generous like that |
| 16:12.12 | Cairenn | hah |
| 16:12.46 | Unkle | ... Generous with her time, attention and friendship maybe. Not her fake internet millions. |
| 16:12.59 | Cairenn | smoogles Unkle |
| 16:13.38 | Rythal | if I win the 50 million tonight, i'll totally buy everyone one... but, fat chance of that happening. |
| 16:14.11 | Unkle | If you win the 50 Million ... CHANGE YOUR NUMBER, and don't spend a nickel. |
| 16:14.50 | bluspacecow | buy yourself a small island in international waters |
| 16:14.54 | bluspacecow | be your own nation! |
| 16:15.09 | Unkle | Until you get annexed by your neighbor |
| 16:15.27 | Rythal | I'm boring... i'd buy some gifts... then just go back to work |
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| 16:17.03 | Unkle | Yeah, the problem with getting sudden wealth is people act like they have a bottomless pit of money - some huge percentage are broke or in debt and penniless in less than 5 years. |
| 16:17.52 | Rythal | hmm... nevermind I don't want that monitor anymore, I just noticed the base :/ it's the same base as my current asus monitor... which vibrates and bounces around all wobbly. |
| 16:18.23 | nevcairiel | I paid ~1200 € (USD 1500) for my current 30" DELL screen, i'm sure that one will be > 2000 at least |
| 16:19.12 | nevcairiel | not to mention that gaming would become impossible, if you insist on native resolution at least :D |
| 16:19.55 | Unkle | Windowed mode! *chuckle* |
| 16:20.23 | nevcairiel | i wonder what beast of a system you need to play at 60fps on a 4K resolution |
| 16:20.34 | Stanzilla | tripple titan |
| 16:20.38 | Stanzilla | or so |
| 16:20.46 | nevcairiel | too bad SLI and CF cause these terrible micro stutters |
| 16:23.01 | Lopeppeppy | Tipple? Did someone offer booze? |
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| 16:28.52 | Unkle | nevcairiel: how so? (Curious, I have a CF mobo, but never bothered, so wondering about it). |
| 16:29.39 | nevcairiel | it happens because the GPUs take slightly different time to render the images, so its not 100% perfectly smooth |
| 16:29.45 | nevcairiel | especially AMD has been suffering lately |
| 16:30.52 | Unkle | I haven't had any compelling reason to go multi-gpu yet - but I suspect I'll need to once I wean myself from WoW. |
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| 17:15.00 | kd3 | hm. more accurate than most doctors would care to admit: http://imgur.com/VHg3cx1 |
| 17:16.25 | Cairenn | lol |
| 17:16.57 | Cairenn | http://www.geeksaresexy.net/2013/05/31/want-to-have-a-productive-day-comic/ |
| 17:17.22 | Unkle | shhhhh... |
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| 17:21.24 | Lopeppeppy | I have alumni on campus, by definition no work is getting done, just a lot of smiling. |
| 17:22.55 | Dagmar | Start a rumor that streakers are planning something in a half hour on the other side of campus, far away |
| 17:23.10 | Dagmar | Yes, that actually does work. |
| 17:24.44 | Unkle | be sure to use the word "coed" |
| 17:25.05 | Dagmar | I didn't need to but it can't hurt |
| 17:25.30 | Dagmar | ...then again, I was looking to get a large pack of teenage boys the hell away from my building |
| 17:27.08 | Dagmar | All I did was fake being on a phone call as I walked past them "Yes, those idiots at Alpha Phi Alpha are still planning on having their streaking event at 12:30 over by Branscomb." |
| 17:27.45 | Dagmar | Suddenly, they all want to see dorms. |
| 17:27.57 | Lopeppeppy | "No, don't send the photographers down to Haupt Pond, there's topless chicks in the gazebo again." |
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| 17:28.12 | Cairenn | lol |
| 17:28.16 | Dagmar | s/chicks/protestors, but it'll probably work |
| 17:28.57 | Dagmar | Now if I can just figure out what might motivate cheerleader camp in the same way |
| 17:29.17 | Unkle | Someone is giving away fat-free froyo |
| 17:29.25 | Dagmar | There's an idea |
| 17:29.28 | Dagmar | Thanks |
| 17:29.32 | kd3 | hahaha |
| 17:30.15 | Dagmar | Sure, it's easy to ignore jailbait when there's only one or two of them, but when there's THREE HUNDRED of them jumping around in clothes their parents don't know about, every single male is just seconds away from being sentenced to HR "re-education" |
| 17:30.37 | TC-work | "Welcome to #wowuidevofevil. Enjoy your stay." |
| 17:30.38 | Dagmar | Two weeks out of every year I just go into the building via the loading ramp |
| 17:31.34 | Unkle | Freshmen tours? |
| 17:31.51 | Dagmar | They're underage, they're worked up, their _hormonal_, and basically easily able to be declared insane by any doctor |
| 17:32.05 | Dagmar | unkle: No, cheerleader camp. I shit you not. |
| 17:32.12 | Dagmar | Hundreds of them |
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| 17:32.42 | Unkle | ... And suddenly I understand how you end up as one of those guys in a heavy coat on a park bench ... |
| 17:33.05 | Dagmar | No, actually, I try and avoid them _entirely_. |
| 17:33.16 | Dagmar | There are some accusations which are impossible to defend against. |
| 17:33.36 | Cairenn | Unfortunately too true |
| 17:33.58 | Dagmar | All I need to really make my month is some worked up tart deciding "that strange guy was staring at me and made me feel uncomfortable" |
| 17:34.08 | Dagmar | ...just so she can feel special about herself. |
| 17:34.25 | Unkle | Dagmar: I understand. Believe me. One of the student workers at my last job filed no less than 5 sexual harassment complaints against men on campus. |
| 17:34.30 | Dagmar | If I want to see scantily clad women, I have no problems going to a strip club |
| 17:34.58 | Dagmar | Unkle: I'm lucky. If I'm going to say something along those lines, it's going to be weird. |
| 17:35.40 | Dagmar | I complimented the hell out of some little coed who came to the noc a few years ago because she practically looked like she just stepped off a Holly Hobbie Christmas card |
| 17:36.09 | Dagmar | She had the stripy knitted stocking cap, and even the mittens dangling from her sleeves by yarn |
| 17:36.21 | Dagmar | She was just freaking adorable |
| 17:36.32 | Unkle | One of those complaints was leveled at me. :/ And while I might be creepy in IRC, at work I am a professional. Her complaint was nonsense, but it is one of those things where you're guilty, even if proven innocent. |
| 17:36.32 | Dagmar | My boss was like "You're going to get in trouble for hitting on here" |
| 17:36.55 | Dagmar | I'm like, I'm not hitting on her. I thought I was hallucinating for a moment when she came to the door |
| 17:38.43 | Unkle | So anyone here good with NAT, iptables, and ipsec for VPN? |
| 17:39.02 | Dagmar | Dunno about the VPN parts but the rest I got |
| 17:39.37 | Unkle | Can I pick your brains? I'm working something that's making me crazy. |
| 17:39.45 | Dagmar | Sure |
| 17:52.07 | cogwheel | All I want to do is pick your brains. |
| 17:52.23 | cogwheel | I'm not unreasonable. I mean, no one's gonna pick your eyes. |
| 17:53.11 | Dagmar | So long as there is no nose picking |
| 17:54.25 | foxlit | hm, the first call to InterfaceOptionsFrame_OpenToCategory seems to open the wrong panel. |
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| 17:58.02 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:01.22 | Lopeppeppy | What is... testing? |
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| 18:06.59 | Caleb| | wondering how long it is gonna take them to fix that foxlit |
| 18:11.52 | foxlit | seems like they mostly stopped patching UI outside major updates |
| 18:12.00 | foxlit | so 5.4, if anyone can actually be bothered. |
| 18:18.42 | Grivvel | foxlit: On the plus side, that change seems to have fixed a lot of the issues with taint spreading to the raid frames :P |
| 18:26.50 | Neffi | I'm pretty sure UI work has been entirely relegated to new interns |
| 18:29.51 | Cairenn | I'm pretty sure you are incorrect. |
| 18:30.02 | nevcairiel | then they are just terrible devs |
| 18:30.08 | nevcairiel | pick your favorite |
| 18:30.28 | Grivvel | Given the fact that there are multiple job postings for the UI team on the website, I would guess that they are woefully understaffed |
| 18:30.36 | nevcairiel | maybe not interns, but junior at least :p |
| 18:33.24 | nevcairiel | no wonder they get no new people, their career page doesnt work :) |
| 18:34.06 | nevcairiel | or they have no positions |
| 18:34.28 | Grivvel | Haha, you're right. Well, as of last week there were 2 postings for the ui team |
| 18:34.42 | Grivvel | And I'd have to imagine that's a significant proportion of the team |
| 18:38.02 | TC-work | They pulled people off of titan, they could have filled positions with them |
| 18:38.29 | nevcairiel | i'm really curious what titan turns out to be |
| 18:39.24 | Neffi | I get the feeling it's an ongiong reaction to the present MMO landscape |
| 18:39.42 | nevcairiel | i have no clue what that would even mean =P |
| 18:39.56 | Arrowmaster | and they keep figuring out "this sucks" and starting over? |
| 18:40.00 | Neffi | New game comes out - "ooh ahh, we need to do that [better]" |
| 18:40.13 | nevcairiel | not that many big mmos coming out anymore |
| 18:40.23 | Arrowmaster | because they all suck? |
| 18:40.50 | nevcairiel | it does seem a bit like they are testing some new concepts in wow all the time, changing stuff around, like they are trying to gather info as well :p |
| 18:40.57 | Neffi | That's a little unfair. They dont all look terrible. |
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| 18:44.57 | Unkle | I'm sort of looking forward to Wildstar. It looks like silly fun. |
| 18:46.32 | astoo | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:47.32 | astoo | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:47.35 | Cairenn | some of us |
| 18:47.38 | Grivvel | astoo: Most other games don't have addons :( At least not to the extent WoW does |
| 18:48.00 | astoo | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:48.12 | astoo | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:49.58 | Grivvel | I think it's less of a gain now, but when the game first came out I feel like AddOns saved it. Having only one action bar (and other things like that) was pretty terrible |
| 18:50.50 | astoo | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:50.52 | Arrowmaster | zero stock raid frames yet 40man raids |
| 18:51.05 | astoo | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:51.14 | Seerah | sure |
| 18:51.27 | astoo | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:52.54 | Neffi | Haven't worked with much. I looked into a F2P WoW alternative a while ago because my friend was interested. Apparently it's common for those types of games to completely rip off the WoW API (and do it much more poorly). |
| 18:53.09 | Neffi | Skyrim modding on the other hand is completely different than WoW |
| 18:53.09 | nevcairiel | wasnt that only rift or something |
| 18:53.22 | Arrowmaster | the chinese ripoff |
| 18:53.32 | Neffi | Runes of Magic or something. It sucked. |
| 18:53.37 | Arrowmaster | rift is probably zorba's doing if anything mimics wows api |
| 18:53.39 | nevcairiel | oh right. rom |
| 18:53.42 | Neffi | Hell, that's putting it nicely |
| 18:53.45 | Grivvel | yeah, rift pretty much cloned the wow api. iirc, it was actually a former addon author that did it |
| 18:54.02 | Arrowmaster | yeah ZorbaBeta |
| 18:54.21 | astoo | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:54.22 | Neffi | One thing I will give the WoW team credit for: the addon system is quite nice. |
| 18:54.35 | Neffi | When I looked into Skyrim scripting, I wanted to pull my hair out |
| 18:54.37 | astoo | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:54.54 | Arrowmaster | part of that is from authors input too of how good the system has gotten |
| 18:55.04 | Neffi | It was mostly us getting bored out WoW back in.. Wrath was it? |
| 18:55.27 | Neffi | $15 is pretty reasonable to pay for a game you enjoy. I don't understand people that slave over F2P lists looking for something decent. |
| 18:56.00 | Neffi | Even the original system was not bad. Just sticking with Lua was a great choice. |
| 18:56.02 | astoo | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:56.04 | TC-work | ~ping |
| 18:56.05 | purl | ~pong |
| 18:56.15 | Neffi | Some game engines try to invent their own scripting languages and just do it poorly |
| 18:56.22 | Neffi | *cough* Papyrus *cough* |
| 18:56.42 | astoo | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:56.57 | Arrowmaster | not many |
| 18:57.06 | astoo | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:57.09 | Neffi | $60 for a game I beat in a week, played 2 more times through, and all told got a month of enjoyment from; versus $15 for a game that never stops giving new content and striving for better balance. It makes sense. |
| 18:57.23 | Neffi | WoW is a wonderful game. $15 is about how much lunch for a day costs. |
| 18:57.25 | Arrowmaster | we were all laughing a few years ago when a bunch of games were announcing they were using actionscript for their UI |
| 18:57.35 | Grivvel | Lua is actualy really common in the game industry for scripting, but not as common in the UI (and even more rarely exposed to the user) |
| 18:57.37 | astoo | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:58.00 | Arrowmaster | my friend at bioware tried to justify SWTOR using actionscript, it was hilarious |
| 18:58.11 | Neffi | astoo: Lua is a great language in its own right, and you're learning scripting in general. No reason not to move to other domains with the knowledge you gain. |
| 18:58.35 | astoo | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:58.48 | Neffi | If you decide you like Lua, you can deploy it in whatever situations you want. You can do server side web stuff with it, and like Grivvel said it's very common to find Lua in games |
| 18:58.58 | astoo | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:59.10 | astoo | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:59.11 | Grivvel | astoo: Well, if you're interested in joining the games industry, it's a pretty great language to learn. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Lua-scripted_video_games |
| 18:59.38 | Neffi | It's also a pretty good language for general personal hacking |
| 18:59.41 | astoo | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:59.47 | astoo | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:59.51 | astoo | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:00.00 | astoo | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:00.01 | astoo | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:00.02 | Neffi | Most people use stuff like Python for whipping up quick scripts, but Lua does well too |
| 19:00.15 | Neffi | Hacking as in programming, not as in cracking |
| 19:00.34 | Arrowmaster | but nmap uses lua |
| 19:00.35 | astoo | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:00.53 | Neffi | Meh. Cracking isn't as much fun as people glorify it to be. |
| 19:00.56 | astoo | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:01.13 | astoo | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:01.18 | Neffi | I get a little sad every time somebody asks me if I can hack something for them. It's not what the news cracks it up to be. |
| 19:01.53 | Neffi | Though I'll eventually have to get into computer security seriously if I want to pursue OS development |
| 19:02.00 | astoo | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:02.23 | Neffi | I find portrayals like that insulting to be honest |
| 19:02.30 | astoo | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:02.53 | Neffi | It devalues the expertise of real security experts, and it insults the commonsense of anyone smart enough to question the premise that hacking is so arcane and magical |
| 19:03.12 | Neffi | It |
| 19:03.54 | Neffi | It's also incredibly lazy for a writer to avoid doing even the most basic research into what the word "hacking" even means before putting it in a book or screenplay |
| 19:04.31 | astoo | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:05.21 | Neffi | Don't blame the public. If you grow up on low quality crap, anything marginally higher looks like gold. Blame it on the executives that push for such shitty yet easy-to-produce shows and movies. |
| 19:06.50 | astoo | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:07.17 | Neffi | I think everyone believes that -- or close to everyone. It's not necessarily true. |
| 19:07.31 | astoo | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:07.46 | Neffi | Culture changes and that alienates the older generations. New stuff seems worse to you because it can't seem any better. |
| 19:07.54 | TC-work | I dunno, I prefer new tech, so the stuff I grew up with is not as awesome as now. |
| 19:08.08 | astoo | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:08.23 | Neffi | Well shit like that is not necessarily new. Back in the day, game shows filled that niche. Executives love the concept of a show that requires no paid writers or really any thought or planning. |
| 19:08.55 | astoo | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:09.00 | Neffi | It's not necessarily that you grew up on crap -- I worded it wrong to begin with. It's more that culture is a sea of irrelevance. |
| 19:09.05 | astoo | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:09.10 | Neffi | There's so much crap out there that we latch onto anything better. |
| 19:09.30 | astoo | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:09.48 | Neffi | Eg LotR was one of my favorite movie trilogies ever, but it pales in comparison to the books. It's still my favorite, because it's uncommon to find another set of movies as good. |
| 19:09.51 | astoo | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:10.27 | astoo | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:10.30 | astoo | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:10.44 | TC-work | Soon(tm) |
| 19:10.49 | astoo | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:11.21 | astoo | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:11.36 | astoo | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:11.44 | durcyn | segue |
| 19:12.00 | Neffi | lol |
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| 19:12.57 | Dagmar | !@#!@ I can think of no way to make a sensible rouge joke out of that |
| 19:13.17 | Neffi | astoo: This is a segway: http://www.personalinjuryofnevada.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/segway.jpg |
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| 19:14.23 | Dagmar | 104% of normal walking speed |
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| 19:45.18 | foxlit | Grivvel: foxlit: On the plus side, that change seems to have fixed a lot of the issues with taint spreading to the raid frames :P << that would actually be interesting. |
| 19:47.02 | foxlit | (but is it actually true, or is that simply a consequence of some other changes / user behavior changes?) |
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| 21:13.00 | zenzelezz | ... and again I forgot to set Option DontZap |
| 21:15.35 | Dagmar | I hate that option |
| 21:15.56 | Dagmar | I don't hit ctrl-alt-backspace accidentally |
| 21:16.03 | zenzelezz | I do, because I'm stupid |
| 21:16.23 | Dagmar | I always find that it's on any system where X is royally fucked and I need to kill it |
| 21:16.59 | zenzelezz | ctrl+alt+F1-6 usually works fine for me, then I can kill it manually as necessary |
| 21:17.19 | zenzelezz | I'd manage to hit ctrl+alt+backspace somehow anyway; but I do it in particular because I bind ctrl+alt+insert to open a terminal window |
| 21:20.34 | TC-work | I use ctrl-alt-backsapce all the time, I love it. |
| 21:22.26 | Arrowmaster | for me its shift-backspace that fucks me up when its enabled |
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