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| 01:10.46 | kd3 | damn it. my second pair of tier gloves off nalak >.< |
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| 01:20.26 | Arrowmaster | omg b5 reunion panel from phoenix comiccon is on youtube, i know what ill be doing for the next 2 hours |
| 01:21.47 | TC-work | Arrowmaster: I know what it sounds like you will be doing for the next two hours according to the internet.... |
| 01:22.16 | bleeter | Arrowmaster: what? some of them are still alive?! |
| 01:22.31 | Arrowmaster | bleeter: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=WGVXg6JnSE0 |
| 01:23.09 | bleeter | Arrowmaster: cheers, will watch later. |
| 01:23.52 | bleeter | lol @ comment "YES, he DID say "ask a better question" to people in other panels. JMS doesn't suffer fools. The moderators didn't know the show nor did they seem to give a shit. JMS saved that panel." |
| 01:24.04 | bleeter | I'll get the popcorn for this :D |
| 01:26.39 | Arrowmaster | fuck whoever was using there phone during this, it caused audio interference in the recording |
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| 01:39.47 | Arrowmaster | the stuff at 20minutes is great |
| 01:43.22 | A-KO | https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/919953_10151449181785267_160578193_o.jpg < old stuff is awesome |
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| 02:52.48 | Arrowmaster | what the fuck, 3 days ago i was given a DHL tracking number and its still blank |
| 02:52.54 | Arrowmaster | i havent gotten the package yet |
| 02:53.07 | Mr_Rabies | dhl.txt |
| 02:54.03 | Arrowmaster | "Your order was shipped via DHL Global Mail Packet Plus, and is estimated to arrive May 28, 2013 - June 17, 2013." |
| 02:54.24 | Arrowmaster | :p |
| 02:54.25 | Mr_Rabies | what |
| 02:54.26 | Mr_Rabies | from where |
| 02:54.42 | Arrowmaster | i have no fucking clue |
| 02:54.45 | kd3 | 3 blocks down if my experience with dhl is any sort of prediction |
| 02:54.55 | Arrowmaster | oh "*Because we are shipping from outside the U.S., please allow up to a week for the tracking information to be accessible." |
| 02:55.06 | Mr_Rabies | i mean what country to what country O_o |
| 02:55.14 | Mr_Rabies | also how do you have no clue :O |
| 02:55.16 | Arrowmaster | no clue to US |
| 02:55.24 | Mr_Rabies | what'd you order? :o |
| 02:55.52 | Arrowmaster | Ouya |
| 02:55.55 | Semlar | drugs |
| 02:56.06 | Mr_Rabies | oh |
| 02:56.07 | Mr_Rabies | ell |
| 02:56.14 | Mr_Rabies | well, by the sounds of it you're not missing much |
| 02:56.26 | Arrowmaster | probably not |
| 02:56.27 | Mr_Rabies | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LdLiCV3RpA |
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| 04:02.27 | kd3 | ah, boo. killed all of the tot bosses... 0 runestones |
| 04:11.01 | Fisker | silly |
| 04:11.06 | Fisker | only the last bosses drop runestones |
| 04:11.46 | kd3 | even then, 0/6 is annoying |
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| 04:13.37 | Fisker | http://i.imgur.com/ZVXh8XL.png <-stahp |
| 04:13.40 | Fisker | what are you doing! |
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| 04:41.26 | Semlar | servicing your images |
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| 04:51.19 | Fisker | it was doing no such thing :( |
| 04:51.22 | Fisker | hey Parnic |
| 04:54.12 | Fisker | hey Parnic |
| 04:54.44 | Fisker | oh ok |
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| 06:22.16 | Mr_Rabies | hmmm |
| 06:22.49 | Mr_Rabies | those of you that both use svn and windows, what svn clients do you guys use? tortoise's explorer shell brings my pc to a bad place |
| 06:23.13 | Mr_Rabies | it really lives up to its name RE: my computer's overall speed |
| 06:24.55 | Esamynn | Mr_Rabies: I tend to just start disabling the shell overlays when tortoise does that |
| 06:25.04 | Esamynn | then it's just fine |
| 06:25.11 | Mr_Rabies | it only exists as a shell overlay, though, right? |
| 06:25.24 | Esamynn | I mean the icon overlays |
| 06:25.35 | Esamynn | that's likely what is causing the slowness |
| 06:25.35 | Mr_Rabies | i'd really like a program that'd just act like...say, filezilla |
| 06:25.49 | Mr_Rabies | i don't use it often but a game i play uses svn to update |
| 06:25.57 | Esamynn | sorry, not familiar with filezilla |
| 06:26.03 | Mr_Rabies | it's an ftp client |
| 06:26.51 | Mr_Rabies | it looks like this and just sorta works http://images.snapfiles.com/screenfiles/filezilla.gif |
| 06:26.53 | Esamynn | as I said, it's generally not the shell extension itself, but the icon overlays that display the file status that causes slowness |
| 06:27.04 | Esamynn | you can disable those overlays by path |
| 06:27.23 | Esamynn | that won't disable any of the context menu options |
| 06:28.54 | Mr_Rabies | i really am not a huge fan of shell extensions in genearl |
| 06:28.56 | Mr_Rabies | general* |
| 06:29.12 | Esamynn | they are useful... as long as they behave themselves |
| 06:29.16 | Mr_Rabies | most of the time i don't use the program enough to need to add it to my context menu in every folder |
| 06:29.19 | Esamynn | so you have to be careful about which ones you use |
| 06:29.49 | Esamynn | I have a handful of programs that are like that and thus I appreciate the context menu options |
| 06:29.59 | Esamynn | also, shell extension != context menu addition |
| 06:30.15 | Mr_Rabies | they tend to go hand-in-hand |
| 06:30.41 | Esamynn | true |
| 06:31.09 | Mr_Rabies | aha, found one |
| 06:31.12 | Mr_Rabies | rapidsvn |
| 06:31.15 | Mr_Rabies | does exactly what i need |
| 06:31.22 | Mr_Rabies | it actually looks almost identical to filezilla :p |
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| 06:45.06 | Mr_Rabies | man it's eerie how targeted the curse client ads are |
| 06:45.29 | Mr_Rabies | getting ads for local grocery stores, for stuff in my amazon viewing history, etc |
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| 07:03.51 | bleeter | Arrowmaster: I think Koenig was asleep for most of that |
| 07:03.58 | bleeter | tackle hugs Esamynn |
| 07:04.52 | Esamynn | ~whaleshield me |
| 07:05.03 | Esamynn | bah |
| 07:05.05 | Esamynn | ~fail me |
| 07:05.05 | purl | esamynn, you Fail! |
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| 07:11.56 | bleeter | \o/ |
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| 07:19.52 | Ackis | I just got my third eye of sulfurus on my pally :( |
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| 07:27.02 | Esamynn | ~laugh Ackis |
| 07:27.02 | purl | ACTION laughs hysterically at Ackis...ow! laughing so hard, it can't breathe... gasp...gasp...gasp.... ..... ... |
| 07:31.10 | Esamynn | bleeter: so what, you tackle me and then just wander off? :P |
| 07:31.42 | Humbedooh | he's mean like that :\ |
| 07:31.50 | Esamynn | what else is new? |
| 07:31.59 | Humbedooh | cows! cows are new |
| 07:32.04 | Humbedooh | it's the new black |
| 07:32.11 | Esamynn | O_o |
| 07:43.53 | bleeter | Esamynn|Away: yeah sorry bloke, feeding time at the zoo here. Gotta make sure the inmates don't burn the joint down |
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| 08:28.41 | Semlar | is it possible to check if you have a buff without looping over all of your auras |
| 08:29.58 | Maldivia | UnitAura("player", "nameOfbuff") |
| 08:29.59 | Semlar | oh i guess i can use the name of the spell |
| 08:30.04 | Semlar | can't use the id though? |
| 08:30.24 | Semlar | i suppose it doesn't matter much |
| 08:30.28 | Maldivia | unitaurs("player", GetSpellName(spellId)) |
| 08:30.39 | Semlar | yeah it's just there's two buffs it gives you |
| 08:30.50 | Maldivia | or what ever the function is now |
| 08:30.57 | Semlar | but.. checking for either one will work |
| 08:31.04 | Maldivia | GetSpellInfo :) |
| 08:31.36 | Semlar | alright |
| 08:32.35 | Maldivia | could also register for the combat log events, and see when you get the buff? |
| 08:33.41 | Semlar | nah that'll be overkill for this |
| 08:34.02 | Semlar | i just need to know if the player has camouflage and maybe invisibility so i don't automatically summon a pet and break it |
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| 09:58.45 | Maldivia | don't forget shadowmeld :P |
| 09:59.24 | Semlar | shadowmeld should count for IsStealthed() |
| 10:10.34 | Neffi | I would imagine Shadowmeld does count for IsStealthed(). Feral druids can use Prowl abilities from within Shadowmeld. |
| 10:11.20 | Neffi | At least, they can use Pounce. Not sure about other abilities. Never tested on my rogue. |
| 10:16.40 | zenzio | so this form lets you specify the height, width, breadth and length of an item... |
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| 10:35.15 | karl_w_w | don't you have 4D objects in your country yet zenzio? |
| 10:35.22 | zenzio | no :( |
| 10:35.25 | zenzio | we're barely past 2D |
| 10:35.37 | karl_w_w | sad |
| 10:35.46 | sintAcks | dafuq. i just spent like, 2 hours cleaning up T15 weak auras |
| 10:36.06 | bluspacecow | mad? |
| 10:36.08 | sintAcks | no |
| 10:36.25 | sintAcks | i had 2 to 4 copies of some buffs/debuffs :| |
| 10:36.31 | sintAcks | cuz i click on links too much |
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| 11:58.01 | AcidWeb | curse addon comments have any rss feed? |
| 12:02.09 | Semlar | all i know is curse comments don't parent correctly and i can't believe they still haven't fixed it |
| 12:02.27 | Semlar | you go to reply to someone and.. it just ends up under the base comment |
| 12:03.20 | AcidWeb | That is feature! Like never working notifications about new comments |
| 12:03.58 | Semlar | yeah i have no idea if they ever get a notification because the comment doesn't show up in the right place |
| 12:06.17 | Semlar | curseforge has an rss feed for comments |
| 12:06.33 | Semlar | curseforge also can get curse comments |
| 12:06.37 | Semlar | but i see no rss feed for curse |
| 12:07.05 | Semlar | how does curseforge get the comments from curse or do they just have direct access to the database |
| 12:09.01 | Semlar | i don't know, curse DOES email me when i get a new comment |
| 12:09.11 | Semlar | it didn't used to work |
| 12:10.45 | Semlar | this thing where the pet journal automatically summons the first pet on your team when you switch them doesn't appear to be in the ui |
| 12:10.58 | Semlar | i can't find any way to stop it |
| 12:11.19 | Semlar | i don't think it's actually being done by the pet journal |
| 12:11.53 | Semlar | it must be a side effect of adjusting the pet team |
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| 13:02.18 | Lopeppeppy | Please gods, save me from the deluge. All I ask is that I be able to tread water until a dolphin arrives. |
| 13:02.36 | bluspacecow | bit wet peppy ? |
| 13:03.05 | alestane | Did the Memorial Day snowstorm turn into a flood for you, or is this a deluge of something else, like stupidity? |
| 13:04.34 | Lopeppeppy | We had rain and 40 degrees all weekend, alestane. Cold, nasty, wet, muddy, rain. |
| 13:04.40 | bluspacecow | *giefs red towel to Peppy* |
| 13:05.18 | Lopeppeppy | Always know where your towel is. |
| 13:06.02 | bluspacecow | you may be eaten by gru |
| 13:06.10 | Lopeppeppy | I sure hope so. |
| 13:06.23 | nevcairiel | knowing where your towel is may not be enough, you should have it with you at all times |
| 13:07.07 | stuf | yhy broken kitty |
| 13:16.39 | airtonix | Lopeppeppy: why god? |
| 13:16.58 | Lopeppeppy | Multiple gods, I take a scattershot approach. |
| 13:17.15 | airtonix | perhaps an envelope of magnets would be more appropriate |
| 13:18.01 | Lopeppeppy | Or a blunderbuss full of nails. |
| 13:19.46 | airtonix | so from relgion to violence |
| 13:19.56 | airtonix | relgion is the new religion |
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| 14:29.28 | pompy | Cairenn: https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/526399_496737083707575_2314160_n.jpg |
| 14:31.45 | bluspacecow | haters |
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| 14:39.31 | Parnic | sup fisker |
| 14:39.48 | bluspacecow | sup Parnic |
| 14:39.52 | bluspacecow | pancake! |
| 14:39.57 | Parnic | sup bluspacecow |
| 14:40.35 | bluspacecow | can i call you pancake ? |
| 14:40.41 | bluspacecow | pancakes are delicous |
| 14:40.47 | Parnic | that's fine |
| 14:41.20 | bluspacecow | :3 |
| 14:58.00 | Fisker | sup Parnic |
| 14:58.02 | Fisker | you wanted trade? |
| 14:58.03 | Fisker | also |
| 14:58.09 | Fisker | <-dumbest fuck eu :( |
| 14:58.25 | Parnic | yeah i wanted trade |
| 14:58.30 | Parnic | and what'd you do now? |
| 14:58.47 | Fisker | i got myself a surface pro and a type cover |
| 14:58.52 | Fisker | store mailed me saying i could pick it up |
| 14:58.55 | Fisker | asked if they meant both |
| 14:59.09 | Fisker | Got a reply "Yeah, actually Microsoft just told we couldn't sell it until tomorrow, thanks for the heads up" |
| 14:59.14 | Parnic | lol |
| 14:59.18 | Fisker | get fucked |
| 14:59.27 | Parnic | almost-grats, then. |
| 15:01.09 | bluspacecow | *throws a harem at Pancake* |
| 15:01.13 | bluspacecow | fisker said I could |
| 15:01.18 | bluspacecow | he said and I quote |
| 15:01.21 | bluspacecow | "get fucked" |
| 15:01.29 | bluspacecow | thus i am providing the means to do so |
| 15:01.36 | bluspacecow | :3 |
| 15:01.41 | Fisker | gonna fuck you bluspacecow |
| 15:01.42 | Fisker | for free |
| 15:01.47 | bluspacecow | squeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee |
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| 15:27.51 | Stanzilla | so a friend of mine is just talking to a WoW GM |
| 15:28.00 | Stanzilla | and he/she does not know what "megaera" is |
| 15:28.01 | Stanzilla | >.< |
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| 15:35.13 | Fisker | so Stanzilla? |
| 15:35.20 | Fisker | they don't need to know what it is |
| 15:42.26 | Stanzilla | stop dumb, Fisker |
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| 17:09.48 | *** topic/#wowuidev is http://pastebin.com || 5.3.x ToC: 50300 || #WoWUIDev-commits: CIA & JIRA bots reporting || Battletags: http://goo.gl/2bm7n || This channel is logged, via purl || BlizzCon! Nov. 8-9 |
| 17:09.52 | foxlit | karl_w_w: does that work around all the various mind control effects? |
| 17:10.02 | karl_w_w | yeah |
| 17:10.44 | foxlit | interesting. I was considering something like what kd3 suggested: a contradiction of the [foo,nofoo] form. |
| 17:12.55 | karl_w_w | something else might be safer, like combat,nocombat |
| 17:13.09 | karl_w_w | assuming that works and it doesn't just ignore it because it's impossible |
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| 17:17.07 | karl_w_w | or you could go [pet:fakename] |
| 17:17.19 | Shirik | foxlit, what could you possibly need that for |
| 17:17.21 | Shirik | I'm curious |
| 17:17.47 | karl_w_w | I'd do that one myself |
| 17:17.59 | bluspacecow | *karl_w_w's pet name is now Elvis Presley Alien the 14th* |
| 17:18.02 | karl_w_w | just dont rename your pet to fakename :P |
| 17:18.27 | karl_w_w | I could never rename you bluspacecow |
| 17:19.03 | bluspacecow | to? |
| 17:19.09 | foxlit | Shirik: preserving slash command semantics in cases where no conditional clauses apply. |
| 17:19.12 | bluspacecow | GreenHighPoopyPantsThe19th |
| 17:19.40 | karl_w_w | to anything! |
| 17:21.35 | Unkle | foxlit: Spade needs a "reset farm tracking" button - It's telling me I have 36 plants to harvest when I have nothing planted. |
| 17:22.12 | foxlit | Unkle: /spade clear |
| 17:22.40 | Unkle | foxlit: Thanks. I checked the page, but I didn't open the code. *facepalm* |
| 17:23.18 | foxlit | It's in the addon page comments somewhere; I don't think I documented it in any obvious places. |
| 17:23.29 | foxlit | you're using seed bags, right? |
| 17:23.30 | bluspacecow | you should :) |
| 17:23.51 | Unkle | A mix of seed bags and plants which got bursting results. |
| 17:23.58 | Shirik | random distraction: http://www.youtube.com/embed/V_gOZDWQj3Q?rel=0 |
| 17:24.34 | foxlit | bursting shouldn't really be a problem -- it should decrement the number of growing plants of that type if it doesn't think you have any harvestable ones. |
| 17:25.10 | foxlit | but I guess you might run into trouble if you re-plant things using seed bags after you harvest a bursting plant |
| 17:25.59 | Unkle | I haven't been paying close attention - I just noticed the discrepancy when I logged in a low-level toon after clearing but not re-planting my farms and saw I had 36 plants ready for harvest. |
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| 17:38.03 | Unkle | http://arstechnica.com/science/2013/05/to-manage-your-diabetes-weird-science-recommends-the-munchies/ - so maybe I should get a prescription? |
| 17:45.07 | Fisker | hey Shirik |
| 17:45.11 | Fisker | s h i r i k |
| 17:45.29 | Fisker | reported for unapproved advertising |
| 17:52.25 | foxlit | InCombatLockdown isn't in the restricted environment :/ |
| 17:55.35 | nevcairiel | because the restricted environment doesnt suffer from combat lockdown |
| 17:55.48 | foxlit | weeeeelllll |
| 17:55.50 | nevcairiel | thats the whole point of it! |
| 17:56.10 | foxlit | some things work differently while in lockdown, even from RE. |
| 17:56.46 | nevcairiel | SecureCmdOptionParse with [combat] modifier |
| 17:57.00 | foxlit | but no matter, one can fake it easily enough with PLAYER_REGEN_{DIS|EN}ABLED and a flag. |
| 17:57.06 | nevcairiel | there is also PlayerInCombat |
| 17:57.14 | foxlit | which is UnitAffectingCombat |
| 17:57.57 | foxlit | (not sure if that's better or worse. Lockdown is more relevant to me -- I want to know whether a :CallMethod dispatch will be able to communicate a result back to the environment) |
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| 17:58.13 | nevcairiel | SecureCmdOptionParse with [combat] may still do what you like |
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| 18:32.07 | Semlar | QUESTION |
| 18:32.26 | Semlar | how bad would it be if i just replaced a petjournal function with my own |
| 18:32.29 | Rythal | ANSWER |
| 18:32.40 | Semlar | i know it will taint the interface |
| 18:33.22 | TC-work | http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2013/05/report-blizzard-to-overhaul-project-titan-launch-it-in-2016-at-the-earliest/ |
| 18:37.47 | pompy | yeah, this was the official statement by blizz http://www.wowhead.com/news=213612/blizzard-on-titan-official-statement .. |
| 18:38.02 | pompy | the view original link isn't the correct one though. |
| 18:38.57 | Cairenn | pompy: hehehe |
| 18:42.27 | cogwheel | taints Semlar's interface |
| 18:42.37 | Semlar | it's too late |
| 18:42.44 | Semlar | it's already tainted |
| 18:43.10 | Semlar | it doesn't seem to really affect anything though so i'm going to keep it |
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| 19:02.31 | kd3|hate`net | whee. I am the 0.7% |
| 19:03.28 | cogwheel | kd3: that world wealth calculator thingy? |
| 19:03.47 | kd3 | nah, just(!) got lambda locator in hl2 |
| 19:03.53 | kd3 | http://steamcommunity.com/stats/HL2/achievements/ |
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| 19:04.30 | haste | took you a while! |
| 19:07.22 | foxlit | pompy: yeah, this was the official statement by blizz http://www.wowhead.com/news=213612/blizzard-on-titan-official-statement .. << https://twitter.com/AvoidComments is oddly relevant |
| 19:07.31 | foxlit | s/oddly// |
| 19:15.58 | Lopeppeppy | you say "avoid comments" and I go read them. |
| 19:16.12 | cogwheel | u r gud lissiner |
| 19:16.26 | Unkle | wat |
| 19:16.36 | cogwheel | wut |
| 19:17.20 | Lopeppeppy | I rarely do what I'm told, I'm just all Rumplestiltskin that way. |
| 19:18.30 | Unkle | So you're saying we have to apply devious reverse-psychological tricks to manipulate you. |
| 19:22.17 | Lopeppeppy | or a lot more chocolate than you have previously forked over. |
| 19:23.40 | Unkle | RAWR |
| 19:24.25 | Lopeppeppy | My bribe list is posted on my door. I accept chocolate, caffeinated beverages, and Amazon currency. *weg* |
| 19:24.51 | Lopeppeppy | I am currently recommending the Shadow Unit series, by the way. Delicious short stories of the X Files type. |
| 19:27.53 | Fisker | slaps Lopeppeppy around a bit with a large trout |
| 19:28.04 | Lopeppeppy | Herrings. I forgot the herrings. |
| 19:30.15 | Unkle | Lopeppeppy: Check out Myke Cole's Shadow Ops stuff - Magic, Military, Superheros. |
| 19:30.52 | Lopeppeppy | I'd do anything for Steve Rogers. *purr* |
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| 19:33.04 | Lopeppeppy | I cannot believe that a user is seriously arguing with me whether "app" has one "p" or two. Can I just go home now? |
| 19:33.11 | Neffi | Is he like Mr. Rogers? |
| 19:37.13 | TC-work | Lopeppeppy: just ask them to spell application then stare at them for 10 minutes without saying anything |
| 19:38.06 | Neffi | TC-work: aplication? |
| 19:38.35 | TC-work | ~lart Neffi |
| 19:38.35 | purl | says "boot to the head" and knocks Neffi over |
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| 19:49.01 | bluspacecow | ~lart bluspacecow |
| 19:49.01 | purl | tries to shut bluspacecow up |
| 19:49.04 | bluspacecow | :| |
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| 19:51.26 | Lopeppeppy_ | We have agreed that I am an authority on technological things, given that I can quote her a zillion websites with two "p"s. Some days I want to do justifiable homicides. |
| 19:51.53 | bluspacecow | you can kill me dear |
| 19:51.59 | bluspacecow | *lies down in wait* |
| 19:52.01 | bluspacecow | be gentle |
| 19:52.07 | kd3 | cripes, this is a big motherboard... http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=6792254&CatId=4068 |
| 19:52.39 | Lopeppeppy_ | bluspacecow, I'm in a shredding mood, sorry. |
| 19:52.46 | bluspacecow | kk |
| 19:52.51 | bluspacecow | *offers signpost* |
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| 19:55.47 | pompy | https://www.facebook.com/#!/photo.php?fbid=10152813787800261&set=a.10151362562415261.817101.137830960260&type=1&theater |
| 19:59.54 | TC-work | kd3: The sad part is I think my case can handle it, but I was going to go smaller :( |
| 20:00.39 | kd3 | mine can't... just getting a full-sized atx board in was a tight fit |
| 20:01.21 | TC-work | Still only has 8 USB ports |
| 20:01.28 | Lopeppeppy_ | Only |
| 20:01.34 | TC-work | I use 11 |
| 20:06.18 | pompy | Cairenn: https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc1/580262_10151629347650516_222626133_n.jpg |
| 20:06.27 | Cairenn | awwww |
| 20:06.35 | Fisker | fairly standard kd3 |
| 20:06.45 | Fisker | my case can handle it TC-work |
| 20:08.02 | bluspacecow | kitteh sock |
| 20:08.18 | pompy | https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc1/574719_581244841916508_1009693861_n.jpg |
| 20:11.14 | Cairenn | rofl |
| 20:11.22 | TC-work | Fisker: are you sure? |
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| 20:26.57 | Unkle | pompy: The Spice must flow! |
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| 20:37.32 | Fisker | yes TC-work |
| 20:40.15 | TC-work | Fisker: Prove it. |
| 20:44.56 | Fisker | want banny? |
| 20:53.04 | TC-work | No idea what that means Fisker |
| 20:54.44 | Fisker | ok |
| 21:10.33 | Kalroth | haha |
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| 21:19.34 | TC-work | Interesting, I just got this email: "So we're hosting a "We the Geeks" Google+ Hangout to talk about asteroids with Bill Nye the Science Guy, former astronaut Ed Lu, NASA Deputy Administrator Lori Garver, and others. And we'd love for you to join the discussion." |
| 21:38.39 | Gnarfoz | well, go on, then! :D |
| 21:42.18 | TC-work | I refuse |
| 21:42.26 | Dagmar | Too expensive. |
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| 22:34.02 | Adys | is there an archeology addon that does just double click to survey |
| 22:34.03 | Adys | like archy |
| 22:37.37 | Torhal | Archy! |
| 22:37.39 | Torhal | hides. |
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| 23:20.33 | foxlit | "you can only specify up to 3 game versions" << so arbitrary, curseforge. |
| 23:27.40 | Shirik | so yesterday we were discussing my IT department's plan to "decrypt SSL traffic" |
| 23:27.44 | Shirik | today we got to see how they did it |
| 23:28.01 | Shirik | They are in fact performing a typical MITM attack, and actually already had the root cert installed that they needed to do it |
| 23:28.28 | Shirik | funny thing is the way I noticed it was when I tried to go to gmail, the cert they reply with is mail.google.com, which pissed off chrome |
| 23:28.49 | xyphoid_ | chrome has the real gmail cert pinned in it right? |
| 23:28.53 | pnorman | I wonder if there are legal implications if they intercept someone going to their bank |
| 23:29.35 | pnorman | I wonder if their lawyers have been asked :> |
| 23:29.48 | TC-work | There should not be. This is a work environment, and they are doing personal business. |
| 23:31.08 | Shirik | they have some exceptions built in; gmail is not one of them |
| 23:31.11 | Shirik | xyphoid_: It doesn't |
| 23:31.30 | Shirik | however it does have "enhanced security" set, meaning that if the cert is invalid, you can't even bypass it |
| 23:31.55 | pnorman | TC-work: that'd be grounds for blocking them from doing it, not necessairly grounds for intercepting it |
| 23:32.10 | TC-work | pnorman: Not if it is in the contract. |
| 23:32.43 | TC-work | We sign a computer use form when we start here that covers that kind of stuff. |
| 23:33.04 | Shirik | my only real problem with it is if they're actually lowering security in the process |
| 23:33.09 | Shirik | my current fear is that I can't detect a REAL MITM |
| 23:33.19 | Shirik | so today I'm going to alter my server's configuration to respond with an invalid certificate |
| 23:33.27 | Shirik | and see if at work it presents me a valid certificate |
| 23:33.30 | Shirik | and if it does, I'm going to raise hell |
| 23:33.37 | Arrowmaster | funny thing is i never signed anything when i started, and they give me global admin rights |
| 23:33.54 | Arrowmaster | the only thing i signed was a W-4 |
| 23:34.26 | pnorman | TC-work: There's a reason I used the specific example of a bank. That may be illegal, and no civil contact would change that |
| 23:35.19 | karl_w_w | salon.com has got to be the most worthless site on the internet |
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| 23:41.05 | bleeter | Shirik: yeah that's what passed through my head, inability to detect real MITM |
| 23:41.11 | bleeter | p3lim is breeding! |
| 23:41.15 | karl_w_w | more p3lim! |
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| 23:41.22 | Shirik | o.O |
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| 23:41.48 | bleeter | I suspect p3lim's reconnect script is bust |
| 23:42.08 | bleeter | or connection in general |
| 23:42.11 | karl_w_w | Shirik has no idea what he's gonna do |
| 23:42.25 | karl_w_w | "ok I've opped myself, now wtf?" |
| 23:42.27 | bleeter | DOALL TEH TINGS SHIRIK! |
| 23:42.38 | Shirik | I wanted to double check the syntax, and then he stopped joining |
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| 23:43.44 | Shirik | anyway |
| 23:43.48 | Shirik | seriously, who decrypts SSL traffic anyway |
| 23:43.58 | Shirik | I actually want to find the company that created this solution |
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| 23:45.03 | xyphoid_ | wasn't there some drama about that recently? a cert authority providing global certs for internal corporate MITM purposes? |
| 23:45.14 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 23:45.50 | xyphoid_ | http://blog.spiderlabs.com/2012/02/clarifying-the-trustwave-ca-policy-update.html |
| 23:46.20 | Shirik | on another note |
| 23:46.31 | Shirik | I want to know if it's possible to configure my computer to explicitly NOT trust a certificate |
| 23:46.47 | Shirik | I noticed that all of the generated spoofed certificates originate from a particular 3rd level cert |
| 23:47.05 | Shirik | I can't remove the root CA because it's the same root CA that's used for all of my encrypted/signed email |
| 23:48.31 | TC-work | Depends on the browser. Amusingly IE has one of the most configurable cert sections I have seen in a browser. |
| 23:48.43 | Arrowmaster | yeah add the cert to the reject section |
| 23:48.48 | Shirik | amusing xyphoid_ |
| 23:48.52 | Shirik | that article talks about FIPS level 3 |
| 23:48.57 | Shirik | we were just talking about that a few days ago |
| 23:49.29 | Arrowmaster | i remember we went over the exact thing your IT deployed at least once |
