| 00:27.11 | Shirik | I thought arstechnica was supposed to be written by intelligent people? |
| 00:27.33 | Ressy | usually is, why? |
| 00:27.43 | Shirik | reading an article they wrote on password requirements |
| 00:27.58 | Shirik | and they said "two-factor authentication is as susceptible to phishing as passwords are" |
| 00:44.14 | TC-work | Shirik: it is in a sense |
| 00:44.21 | Shirik | no |
| 00:44.36 | TC-work | If you are willing to give up your codes/passwords, you would give up your cards, etc. |
| 00:44.51 | TC-work | or place your whatever on the sensor |
| 00:44.55 | Shirik | how am I supposed to give someone my authenticator |
| 00:45.07 | cogwheel | Shirik: you type in your code |
| 00:45.14 | cogwheel | as long as they do bad things within a minute, they're golden |
| 00:45.17 | Shirik | which gives them a minute window |
| 00:45.26 | Shirik | this does not meet my definition of "as susceptible as" |
| 00:45.52 | TC-work | The idea being if you are willing to give them one thing, you are willing to give them everything. |
| 00:46.24 | Shirik | regardless |
| 00:46.33 | Shirik | imo authenticators are not good two-factor authentication |
| 00:46.55 | Shirik | a good two-factor authentication is challenge authentication |
| 00:51.57 | Torhal | challenges Shirik to a game of Horseshoes. |
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| 01:57.57 | Ackis | I'm transferring my grad video from vhs to my pc and I'm required to watch it and all I can think about is "damn that time sucked ass" |
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| 02:19.50 | Shirik | lol |
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| 02:38.59 | kd3 | wtf, nsfl (mold): http://donan.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/Mold.jpg |
| 02:42.56 | TC-work | Nice |
| 02:43.11 | TC-work | and it looks like the ceiling is sagging. |
| 02:43.31 | Torhal | Severe water damage will do that. |
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| 03:06.44 | Shirik | that looks like a fan austin powers might have |
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| 03:39.35 | bleeter | http://youtu.be/bZI1eeV88lQ |
| 03:45.53 | ccox | Any news on the next WoW patch date? |
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| 03:47.12 | kd3 | Soon(TM) |
| 03:50.27 | ccox | isn't that the date of ALL game releases? (with the exception of Duke Nuken ForNever) |
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| 04:09.22 | Fisker | hey kd3 |
| 04:09.30 | kd3 | allo |
| 04:10.03 | Fisker | i don't like bluipodcow |
| 04:10.19 | bluipodcow | Gasp ! |
| 04:10.24 | bluipodcow | New office |
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| 04:10.34 | bluipodcow | And it smells :| |
| 04:12.57 | Fisker | i farted in your office |
| 04:15.52 | bleeter | bluipodcow: was this you? http://youtu.be/bZI1eeV88lQ |
| 04:17.21 | bluipodcow | Lol |
| 04:17.24 | bluipodcow | Nope |
| 04:17.41 | bleeter | you wish it were, tho. amirite or amirite |
| 04:22.28 | bluipodcow | Lolololololol |
| 04:23.10 | Fisker | btw bluipodcow |
| 04:23.12 | Fisker | not so hey |
| 04:49.00 | Fisker | why not hey bluipodcow ? |
| 04:49.30 | bluipodcow | I at work fishery fisker :) |
| 04:49.44 | Fisker | oh ok |
| 04:49.50 | Fisker | i want my surface pro |
| 04:51.41 | bluipodcow | Lol |
| 05:09.30 | Torhal | Fisker: Fuck that, man. Wait for the Surface Enterprise. |
| 05:10.51 | Fisker | why Torhal ? |
| 05:11.11 | Torhal | Oh, you're a hardware whore. I forgot. My bad. Carry on. |
| 05:23.22 | Fisker | hey Torhal |
| 05:23.28 | Fisker | atleast i don't copyright infringe |
| 05:24.05 | Torhal | You infringe on freedom, though, Fisker. |
| 05:24.16 | Fisker | nope |
| 05:24.37 | Torhal | You're a communist dictator. |
| 05:25.18 | Fisker | wouldn't be even if i could be |
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| 06:36.05 | Aleco | Hello everyone! |
| 06:37.30 | Thunder_Child | Welcome Aleco |
| 06:38.12 | Aleco | Someone who's patient (I'm not slow by any means) and doesn't mind helping someone get started, please message me. |
| 06:38.16 | Aleco | I'd greatly appreciate it. |
| 06:38.26 | Thunder_Child | ~asktoask |
| 06:38.26 | purl | Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help, if they can. |
| 06:38.54 | Thunder_Child | Granted it is somewhat dead around here at this time |
| 06:39.04 | Aleco | Well, I'm trying to get started with creating WoW addons. I have some history, but it's been a year since I've touched any programming. |
| 06:39.11 | Aleco | Is there a list of tutorials somewhere? |
| 06:39.54 | Aleco | I feel like reading the Lua documentation is just a little overwhelming compared to set tutorials that teach you little by little. |
| 06:39.55 | Thunder_Child | Hah, there isn't even blizz supplied documentation. |
| 06:40.31 | Thunder_Child | http://wowprogramming.com/ that would be one of your better bets |
| 06:41.21 | nevcairiel | http://www.wowpedia.org/Portal:Interface_customization |
| 06:41.22 | Aleco | And do you have to restart WoW every time you want to test something? |
| 06:41.35 | nevcairiel | this has a bunch of links to small tutorials and howtos |
| 06:41.48 | nevcairiel | Aleco: only to add new files, you can modify files and then just reload the UI |
| 06:42.05 | nevcairiel | ie /console reloadui |
| 06:42.22 | Aleco | Mk. |
| 06:42.26 | Aleco | Thank you very much. |
| 06:42.46 | Cairenn | Your absolute best resource, however, is this channel. :) |
| 06:43.08 | Aleco | I just read about it. Is it pretty active in the day? |
| 06:43.14 | Cairenn | yeah |
| 06:43.18 | Thunder_Child | It can be |
| 06:43.19 | Aleco | Greaaat! |
| 06:43.27 | Thunder_Child | there are days where it is rather dead |
| 06:43.30 | nevcairiel | if off-topic chatter is considered active :p |
| 06:43.40 | Aleco | What do you guys think about the World of Warcraft Programming: A Guide and Reference for Creating WoW Addons (second edition)? |
| 06:43.45 | Thunder_Child | And also note that topics are not really wow centric |
| 06:43.57 | Thunder_Child | people in here wrote it Aleco |
| 06:44.12 | nevcairiel | the book is good, if you're serious about learning, it can get you a long way |
| 06:44.18 | Aleco | I mean, is it good for an absolute beginner with Lua? |
| 06:44.45 | Aleco | I've dabbed with PAWN, Python, C++ & MySQL (even though it's not a language), as well as PHP. |
| 06:44.50 | Aleco | So I know a bit, but Lua always confused me. |
| 06:45.27 | bluipodcow | Lol haven't seen cog speak up for a while |
| 06:46.15 | Thunder_Child | bluipodcow: Do you promise not to lick people at blizzcon? Cairenn excepted of course. |
| 06:47.00 | bluipodcow | Ummmmm |
| 06:47.01 | bluipodcow | Ok |
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| 06:47.09 | bluipodcow | If you insist |
| 06:47.32 | Torhal | will bring a Super Soaker full of habanero juice, just in case. |
| 06:47.59 | Thunder_Child | Well, there is little harm in asking |
| 06:48.07 | Thunder_Child | I mean it is SoCal, there is worse |
| 06:48.26 | Thunder_Child | but 'Surprise Licking' is not really a good idea. |
| 06:48.35 | Humbedooh | but....cows :( |
| 06:48.38 | Humbedooh | they lick stuff |
| 06:48.51 | Thunder_Child | They also crap disks and give milk |
| 06:49.03 | Thunder_Child | other things I do not want blu doing |
| 06:49.07 | Humbedooh | I don't think you should drink bluipodcow's milk |
| 06:49.29 | Thunder_Child | You say that like I was thinking about it. |
| 06:49.33 | Humbedooh | it's not been properly homogenized |
| 06:49.49 | bluipodcow | Lol |
| 06:49.56 | Torhal | Humbedooh: Should we vibration-induce homegenization. |
| 06:50.11 | bluipodcow | Gasp! |
| 06:50.21 | bluipodcow | You might make me sterile! |
| 06:50.38 | Cairenn | you guys are being weird(er than usual) |
| 06:51.01 | Humbedooh | bluipodsteer :o |
| 06:51.04 | Torhal | Cairenn: bluipodcow licks everyone. All. The. Time. |
| 06:51.16 | Torhal | We're merely attempting to insure that this doesn't happen in Anaheim. |
| 06:51.16 | Cairenn | eh |
| 06:51.32 | bluipodcow | Gasp! Work to do! |
| 06:51.39 | Torhal | Heh. |
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| 06:51.46 | Thunder_Child | Well, trying to ensure it does not happen without asking anyway |
| 06:51.52 | Cairenn | heh |
| 06:52.05 | Thunder_Child | Who are we to tell someone no if thet want a lick |
| 06:52.11 | Torhal | Is there such a thing as a "Designated Whoah-Dude!" |
| 06:52.15 | Thunder_Child | they* |
| 06:53.09 | Cairenn | heh |
| 06:53.31 | Humbedooh | Torhal: I think there is, you just created that title |
| 06:54.19 | Torhal | Humbedooh: T'was a typo. FUcking global variables. |
| 06:55.57 | Humbedooh | yes, we must fight global variables before it's too late to save Mother Earth |
| 06:56.07 | Thunder_Child | ~lart Humbedooh |
| 06:56.07 | purl | pushes the wall down onto Humbedooh whilst whistling innocently |
| 06:56.23 | Humbedooh | I know where you live,purl! |
| 06:57.07 | Torhal | Cairenn: http://s020.radikal.ru/i706/1305/17/d97db636e5b1.jpg |
| 06:57.28 | Cairenn | awwwww |
| 06:57.58 | Cairenn | that looks like a shiva inu |
| 06:58.00 | Semlar|Laptop | that bacon seems a little undercooked |
| 06:58.04 | Cairenn | shiba* |
| 06:58.12 | Torhal | Yah, I thought Shiba as well |
| 06:58.19 | Torhal | cooks Semlar|Laptop. |
| 06:58.27 | Semlar|Laptop | my harddrive! |
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| 07:37.30 | Adys | I need someone to recommend me a good series to watch next |
| 07:38.27 | Humbedooh | Peep Show immediately springs to mind |
| 07:38.46 | Fisker | stargate Adys |
| 07:38.53 | Adys | seen it Fisker |
| 07:38.57 | Fisker | :( |
| 07:38.58 | Fisker | arrow? |
| 07:39.36 | Adys | arrow? |
| 07:40.02 | Fisker | arrow |
| 07:42.22 | Adys | Humbedooh: last time i gave peep show a shot i couldnt stand the filming style |
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| 08:17.50 | Semlar | arrow |
| 08:19.09 | Semlar | i mean.. vampire prosecutor |
| 08:19.59 | Semlar | http://www.hulu.com/vampire-prosecutor haha so good |
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| 08:30.12 | Arrowmaster | bleeter: no coupon here |
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| 08:57.39 | Adys | http://googledevelopers.blogspot.co.uk/2013/05/google-api-infrastructure-outage_3.html |
| 09:01.53 | Kalroth | too late i switched to apple and microsoft api because of this, now i use itunes and word for my services |
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| 09:13.19 | Fisker | then you are worse than a certain german politician Kalroth |
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| 09:17.05 | Kalroth | is hitler a certain german politician? |
| 09:17.10 | Fisker | yep |
| 09:24.22 | zenzelezz | no |
| 09:24.24 | zenzelezz | he was |
| 09:28.48 | zenzelezz | I can't tell if I hate the "May the 4th be with you" crap more because it's just beyond cheesy, or because it assumes an incorrect way of reading dates |
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| 10:40.32 | karl_w_w | neither, it's because it's a star wars joke |
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| 11:17.15 | Fisker | hey zenzelezz |
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| 12:19.27 | VIad | wrote e-mail over the course of 40 minutes |
| 12:40.28 | karl_w_w | congratualtions VIad |
| 12:40.39 | VIad | thanks - it got long and complicated |
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| 13:50.03 | bluspacecow | *blinks* |
| 13:50.04 | bluspacecow | http://pastebin.com/hG7D1tvv |
| 13:50.11 | bluspacecow | fbexternal-a.akamaihd.net |
| 13:50.25 | bluspacecow | on 5.3 PTR . with new ingame browser up. |
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| 13:53.35 | bluspacecow | i now i've blown up the in game browser |
| 13:53.38 | bluspacecow | oh well |
| 13:54.58 | karl_w_w | that didnt take long |
| 13:55.16 | bluspacecow | boom! goes the dynamite! |
| 13:57.27 | karl_w_w | boom boom boom boom |
| 13:57.32 | karl_w_w | i want you in my room |
| 13:57.49 | VIad | bluspacecow: they did fix the old browser by making it connect directly by IP |
| 13:58.03 | VIad | weird that they reintroduced the hosts-hijack by using a domain :P |
| 14:09.28 | bluspacecow | dunno actually |
| 14:09.41 | bluspacecow | little snitch does IP<->Host resolves automatically |
| 14:09.59 | bluspacecow | ie reverse DNS lookups |
| 15:06.43 | mikma | cairenn|afk: http://jalopnik.com/say-hello-to-the-inspirational-feel-good-side-of-russi-489022102 |
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| 15:34.31 | Fisker | zero fucks bluspacecow ? |
| 15:47.51 | karl_w_w | gives Fisker 0 fucks |
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| 16:13.44 | VIad | bluspacecow: you can hijack it all by defining a custom dns where you specify it to redirect you to a different IP, but still act and respond as if everything is fine and dandy :P |
| 16:15.20 | nevcairiel | thats assuming it still uses names instead of ips directly |
| 16:15.31 | nevcairiel | the server could jsut be telling it the ip its supposed to use |
| 16:15.40 | VIad | with custom router firmware, can probably redirect IP's too :P |
| 16:15.58 | bluspacecow | if someone has their router comprimised |
| 16:15.59 | nevcairiel | not easily |
| 16:16.08 | VIad | that reminds me, I could install a linux based firmware... gives me more options |
| 16:16.09 | bluspacecow | they have larger issues then a wow account hacked |
| 16:16.21 | bluspacecow | seems a bit elborate for the average gold seller type hacker |
| 16:16.26 | VIad | hehe, ofc :P |
| 16:16.44 | nevcairiel | you could do that if you wanted to breach the sandbox |
| 16:17.04 | tharper | Humbedooh: http://i.imgur.com/SDNkl8j.png |
| 16:17.33 | VIad | Danish |
| 16:17.58 | VIad | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Danish_inventions |
| 16:18.11 | tharper | someone missed the jok |
| 16:18.12 | tharper | e |
| 16:18.14 | VIad | not everything is formatted as "List of X inventions" |
| 16:18.17 | VIad | :P |
| 16:18.23 | VIad | I am the party pooper |
| 16:18.34 | nevcairiel | this is why noone likes you |
| 16:18.49 | VIad | :P |
| 16:19.02 | VIad | wiki'd norwegian inventions, didn't know we made land mines |
| 16:19.14 | bluspacecow | stilll |
| 16:19.18 | bluspacecow | 10 inventions for danish |
| 16:19.25 | VIad | blame norway for all the suffering in the world, all those leftover war mines hurting civilians |
| 16:20.24 | tharper | also the ethically questionable statoil =p |
| 16:21.04 | VIad | wasn't listed as a invention on the article |
| 16:21.05 | VIad | statoil :P |
| 16:21.24 | tharper | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebqdwQzmSHM |
| 16:21.28 | VIad | I guess norway isn't the only one profiting of ethically questionable businesses |
| 16:21.42 | tharper | bats eyelashes. |
| 16:21.46 | tharper | Why whatever would you mean? |
| 16:21.53 | VIad | funny video btw :P |
| 16:21.56 | VIad | I've seen it before ;) |
| 16:22.09 | VIad | I love the norwenglish |
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| 16:25.32 | VIad | hmm, norway really invented the aerosol spray? |
| 16:26.18 | VIad | I guess wiki teaches you things every day |
| 16:30.45 | zenzelezz | probably a matter of definition |
| 16:31.14 | zenzelezz | people like to claim that they, their team/country/continent was first at whatever, often narrowing the scope so much there's no contest |
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| 17:02.41 | Fisker | hey zenzelezz |
| 17:02.48 | Fisker | you got another reason to hate the "may the 4th be with you" |
| 17:03.05 | Fisker | https://twitter.com/windowsphone/status/330713940118102016 |
| 17:04.31 | karl_w_w | Fisker why is there a golden circle in the middle of my screen? |
| 17:04.41 | Fisker | why isn't there? |
| 17:05.12 | Fisker | isn't it* |
| 17:06.24 | Fisker | hey tharper :) |
| 17:06.27 | karl_w_w | it isn't there when the map isnt there |
| 17:07.15 | tharper | hihi Fisker |
| 17:08.18 | Fisker | don't laugh at it :( |
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| 18:10.11 | Ackis | Fisker: what's wrong with windows phoens? |
| 18:11.10 | Fisker | they're shit? |
| 18:11.27 | Fisker | who said anything was wrong with them anyway? |
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| 18:21.55 | Seerah | Does anyone still need tickets for BlizzCon? |
| 18:21.59 | Ackis | they use your xbox gamertag so you can get achievement points on them! :D |
| 18:22.21 | Fisker | so? |
| 18:22.42 | Fisker | I need some Seerah, got plane and hotel tickets for me as well? |
| 18:22.51 | Seerah | Fisker: nope :p |
| 18:22.57 | Fisker | aw :( |
| 18:23.16 | Seerah | but if you're serious, I really do have 2 tickets still |
| 18:33.40 | Fisker | weren't, but i would like to go some day :P |
| 18:34.31 | Elkano | same, but if I add the trip cost and paperwork for getting into the US... :/ |
| 18:36.11 | Fisker | lets make our own blizzcon Elkano |
| 18:36.16 | Fisker | with casinos, beer and hookers |
| 18:36.30 | Fisker | infact forget all of those things as they don't really interest me |
| 18:36.59 | Elkano | no interest in beer? :( |
| 18:37.30 | Fisker | nope |
| 18:48.12 | Stanzilla | beer sucks |
| 18:50.21 | Elkano | shame on you Stanzilla, and I though you were German ;( |
| 18:50.32 | Stanzilla | I am |
| 18:50.38 | Stanzilla | just not the beer kind |
| 18:54.07 | Cairenn|afk | mikma: awwwwww |
| 19:02.41 | VIad | daleks can speak german |
| 19:04.09 | mikma | that's cause germans are daleks |
| 19:04.32 | VIad | Stanzilla: what is your purpose? |
| 19:11.48 | VIad | btw space submarine suspense? doesn't work, nothing to carry the soundwaves so you can have Slayer perform right outside your ship and you won't hear shit :P |
| 19:12.55 | Semlar | you would if they had microphones in their spacesuits |
| 19:13.12 | Ackis | does anyone think ultraviolet digital copies suck? |
| 19:14.46 | mikma | ackis: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0370032/ |
| 19:15.02 | Ackis | not the movie :P |
| 19:18.29 | karl_w_w | on what basis Ackis |
| 19:18.38 | karl_w_w | on the basis that all drm sucks, yes |
| 19:18.45 | karl_w_w | otherwise I don't know |
| 19:19.28 | Ackis | the flixster app for the pc sucks (it has no "always on top" for example), it sucks that I need a third party app even and it's confusing as hell which apps will stream with which program |
| 19:20.06 | karl_w_w | drm that makes you install something you don't need? sounds a lot like apple |
| 19:20.21 | kd3|hate`net | s/apple/drm in general/ |
| 19:20.59 | karl_w_w | i remember the good old days when the onyl drm we had to worry about was on video cassettes |
| 19:21.01 | karl_w_w | oh wait |
| 19:21.16 | kd3|hate`net | we still had to deal with macrovision back then too |
| 19:22.36 | pompy | http://puu.sh/2Mu53.jpg heh |
| 19:22.56 | Ackis | as much as I don't like apple, I'm actually finding iTunes and the iPad extremely user friendly, even with the DRM... the only negative is I can't view them on android devices |
| 19:24.07 | Ackis | I better watch out else I become an apple fanboi like Torhal |
| 19:27.25 | karl_w_w | once they have you there's no way out |
| 19:28.02 | karl_w_w | they're like the borg, even if you break free you'll forever be coping with the consequences |
| 19:28.26 | karl_w_w | why pompy |
| 19:30.05 | pompy | heh |
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| 19:44.32 | Ackis | it's saturday? |
| 19:44.39 | smcn | it is |
| 19:46.31 | Ackis | I've been acting all day like it's Sunday =/ |
| 19:51.08 | karl_w_w | 3 cheers for getting a bonus day of weekend then |
| 19:54.07 | Fisker | user friendly Ackis ? |
| 19:54.17 | Fisker | i tried to migrate from android to iphone |
| 19:54.33 | Fisker | and all i got was this ascii middle finger i had to google after using an hour trying to find an easy way of doing it |
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| 20:09.22 | Semlar | is there a simple way for me to sort the spellbook without breaking everything |
| 20:26.35 | Sintacks | how do you leave a phantom party |
| 20:27.10 | Semlar | have you tried /run LeaveParty() |
| 20:27.47 | Sintacks | after i found it yes |
| 20:28.17 | Fisker | Stanzilla |
| 20:28.20 | Fisker | http://wccftech.com/asus-z87-motherboards-unveiled-maximus-vi-extreme-maximus-vi-hero-z87-sabertooth-z87-gryphoon-pictured/ |
| 20:29.25 | kd3 | ...huh? http://imgur.com/JtX35i9 |
| 20:31.05 | nevcairiel | Dairy is defined as "produced from the milk of mammals", they just used other milk |
| 20:35.09 | Fisker | pls Stanzilla |
| 20:35.23 | karl_w_w | i will always be disturbed by you Americans calling it "creamer". there is only one use of the word creamer and you wouldn't want it in your hot beverage |
| 20:35.42 | Fisker | does anything else than mammals even produce milk? |
| 20:35.57 | karl_w_w | coconuts |
| 20:36.27 | Semlar | no, that's part of the definition of being a mammal |
| 20:36.28 | kd3 | soy? almond? for various definitions of "milk"? |
| 20:36.48 | Fisker | milk-like product |
| 20:37.19 | karl_w_w | snakes/spiders |
| 20:37.29 | Semlar | neither of those produce milk |
| 20:37.39 | Semlar | they can be milked for venom |
| 20:39.13 | Fisker | what about bulls? |
| 20:48.10 | Arrowmaster | hmm one of those pics shows a board with 4 pcie 16x but none of the descriptions match it |
| 20:52.08 | Thunder_Child | wtf Fisker, LGA 1150? |
| 20:52.51 | Thunder_Child | 16 and 8 look the same Arrowmaster |
| 20:53.29 | Arrowmaster | its the 2nd from the bottom one |
| 20:54.16 | Arrowmaster | Thunder_Child: there are haswell boards |
| 20:54.30 | Arrowmaster | which is why they are LGA 1150 |
| 20:55.05 | Thunder_Child | Just feels like we are going backwards |
| 20:55.08 | Thunder_Child | whats wrong with 2011? |
| 20:56.21 | Arrowmaster | they probably cut the pcie lanes again or something |
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| 20:59.14 | nevcairiel | there is quite a bit of different architecture between the 15xx boards and the 2011, so unless you want to pay the same price for your haswell board as you would for a good 2011 board, i think its good this way :P |
| 20:59.19 | A-KO | haswell chips won't work in ivy bridge boards? :( |
| 20:59.21 | A-KO | that makes me sad |
| 20:59.51 | Arrowmaster | you were expecting they would? |
| 21:00.09 | nevcairiel | they moved the power controller onto the CPU, which requires new boards |
| 21:00.12 | Arrowmaster | can you put an ivy bridge in a sandy bridge board? |
| 21:00.26 | nevcairiel | yes |
| 21:00.32 | nevcairiel | with bios updates |
| 21:00.35 | nevcairiel | depending on board |
| 21:00.43 | nevcairiel | but you can put a snb in an ivy board =P |
| 21:00.46 | Thunder_Child | and small animal sacrificed |
| 21:00.56 | Arrowmaster | ok, well thats the only recent compatible one then |
| 21:01.18 | Arrowmaster | you cant put anything but an original i7 in the original i7 boards |
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| 21:02.38 | Arrowmaster | i hope this price listing on the wiki page is correct, i like $327 for a 4770K instead of the usual $999 for the highest of the new series |
| 21:02.50 | Thunder_Child | That doesn't sound right |
| 21:02.57 | nevcairiel | the highest was never 999 |
| 21:03.02 | nevcairiel | not in the consumer series |
| 21:03.18 | Arrowmaster | original i7 extreme one was $999 |
| 21:03.20 | nevcairiel | only the -E models have that $999 version |
| 21:03.34 | nevcairiel | like i said, the -E models :P |
| 21:03.45 | Arrowmaster | which is why everybody bought i7-920's they were the only affordable one |
| 21:04.44 | nevcairiel | ~330 sounds about right for the highest K cpu, would match SNB/Ivy release prices |
| 21:06.13 | Arrowmaster | ill probably get the K when haswell is released then, i need a new desktop |
| 21:06.26 | Arrowmaster | as long as the K isnt missing features like some have before |
| 21:06.41 | A-KO | I'll be sticking wity ivy bridge until at least the new "3d ram" comes around |
| 21:07.03 | Arrowmaster | well my current desktop is a first gen i7 and its broken |
| 21:08.29 | nevcairiel | i dont think we'll see the 3D-RAM before 2015 or so in consumer markets |
| 21:09.04 | A-KO | that works for me nevcairiel :P Considering I just built my rig in October |
| 21:09.16 | A-KO | so a 3-4 year upgrade cycle is fine |
| 21:09.33 | kd3 | eh, I just freaking upgraded from a q6600 to a 3570k. I'm not bothering for a while |
| 21:10.10 | A-KO | yeah. I went from a Core 2 Duo 2.3Ghz to the i7 3770k... |
| 21:10.15 | A-KO | talk about upgrade |
| 21:10.16 | A-KO | lol |
| 21:10.31 | Arrowmaster | athlon xp 2500 to i7-920 |
| 21:12.05 | A-KO | I had my duo for a while....before that.....I can't remember what I had before that |
| 21:12.21 | A-KO | IIRC, Athlon 64 X2 or so |
| 21:12.31 | kd3 | before that was a p4 northwood at 2.4 |
| 21:12.52 | A-KO | yeah, I had the Athlon 64 X2 series, then the Core 2 Duo, then my ivy bridge |
| 21:13.01 | A-KO | I kind of went all out on this build, too |
| 21:13.30 | A-KO | GTX 670, i7 3770k, 16GB ram, 2x Samsung 256GB SSDs, Corsair H80 cooler, Corsair 850AX 80+ Gold PSU... |
| 21:13.36 | A-KO | total damage was about 2K |
| 21:15.28 | nevcairiel | you consider 670 all out? |
| 21:15.29 | nevcairiel | :P |
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| 21:24.52 | Thunder_Child | You should be able to get better for 2K |
| 21:29.07 | A-KO | eh, I went case, ram, everything except the LCD.... |
| 21:29.17 | A-KO | the 670s are also like $400+ now :( |
| 21:29.26 | A-KO | so I'm sure now, the same build probably costs a hair more |
| 21:30.13 | Fisker | a |
| 21:30.16 | nevcairiel | hm really, why are GPUs becomming so expensive again |
| 21:31.22 | nevcairiel | hm nah, prices look like they did for a while, it just didnt go down much |
| 21:32.07 | Fisker | need a new psu for haswell as well |
| 21:32.35 | nevcairiel | not sure i'll get a new one, mine should still be good |
| 21:34.11 | Fisker | i wish they had shots of the IO ports though |
| 21:34.45 | nevcairiel | i want a board with a PS2 keyboard port, not sure they still make those |
| 21:35.02 | Fisker | why? |
| 21:35.27 | Fisker | i think MSI still have a fetish with including PS/2 ports |
| 21:35.32 | nevcairiel | only ps2 supports unlimited rollover, silly usb is limited |
| 21:38.01 | Fisker | only people who roll their head on top of the keyboard needs that anyway |
| 21:51.52 | Fisker | time for bed nevcairiel ? |
| 21:52.27 | nevcairiel | soon |
| 21:52.43 | nevcairiel | need to get up early tomorrow and go to the harbor |
| 22:00.53 | Thunder_Child | nevcairiel: sailing? |
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| 22:16.10 | Ackis | 4-pack of borderland 2 for $30 http://cheapshark.com/l/yV8lQ/0 |
| 22:22.08 | znf | I'll post this here, too, so you can get a laugh: http://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/1dnz7a/trying_to_make_my_ui_look_nice_and_professional/c9sg6b7?context=3 |
| 22:23.39 | Gnarfoz | while we're at dispensing laughs: http://leviosaaa.com/ |
| 22:24.59 | znf | what the fuck did I just watch, Gnarfoz ? |
| 22:26.37 | Gnarfoz | awesomeness |
| 22:26.44 | Gnarfoz | znf: I like your final comment in the thread, haha |
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| 22:28.42 | Aleco | Anyone know where I can get a Lua interpreter for windows? The one on wowprogramming is broken. |
| 22:31.07 | foxlit | Can you compile things? |
| 22:31.52 | Aleco | I disconnected, so if anyone replied to me, I'd appreciate it if you said it once more. |
| 22:32.16 | Shirik | (15:31:10) (foxlit) Can you compile things? |
| 22:32.35 | Shirik | alternatively http://luabinaries.sourceforge.net/ |
| 22:33.03 | smcn | https://code.google.com/p/luaforwindows/ |
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| 22:33.59 | kd3 | the real lua interpreter works...? http://www.lua.org |
| 22:34.50 | Aleco | Thank you. |
| 22:36.35 | smcn | and if you're interested in an in-game one http://www.curse.com/addons/wow/wowlua |
| 22:37.37 | foxlit | lua> s = "Hello World.txt" os.execute("mv file " .. shell_escape(s) .. ) --<< what do I actually need to escape? |
| 22:37.38 | lua_bot | foxlit: luabot:1: unexpected symbol near ')' |
| 22:39.24 | znf | lua> die |
| 22:39.24 | lua_bot | znf: nil |
| 22:39.31 | znf | lua> die() |
| 22:39.31 | lua_bot | znf: luabot:1: attempt to call global 'die' (a nil value) |
| 22:55.14 | Shirik | foxlit: ` and $() for sure |
| 22:55.31 | Shirik | semicolons |
| 22:55.33 | Shirik | && |
| 22:55.35 | foxlit | bonus question: what if I enclose it in double quotes? |
| 22:55.51 | Shirik | I am not a bash expert :( |
| 22:56.12 | Shirik | I think that would make it just backslashes and double quotes right? |
| 22:56.50 | Arrowmaster | i cant remember, what exactly does os.execute() do |
| 22:57.02 | Arrowmaster | is it actually calling the shell or just executing mv |
| 22:57.33 | Shirik | calls system() |
| 22:58.01 | Arrowmaster | so it is calling a shell |
| 22:58.09 | Shirik | yeah |
| 22:58.14 | Shirik | in Linux at least |
| 22:58.39 | Shirik | looks like Windows does the same |
| 22:59.14 | Arrowmaster | yeah this is dangerous |
| 23:00.05 | Arrowmaster | wraping the output in ' and escaping any 's in it might be best |
| 23:02.41 | smcn | it's dangerous to call shells alone, take this. "you receive a \\!" |
| 23:05.38 | Shirik | :P |
| 23:06.53 | foxlit | function shell_escape(v) return "'" .. v:gsub("'", "'\\''") .. "'" end |
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| 23:08.03 | Arrowmaster | throw everything you can think of at that to test it first |
| 23:08.31 | Arrowmaster | foxlit: also are you really doing os.execute("mv ....") or was that an example? |
| 23:08.43 | foxlit | just an example. |
| 23:09.02 | foxlit | it's actually io.popen("tar -zOf FILE1 FILE2") |
| 23:09.19 | foxlit | s/z/x/ |
| 23:12.22 | znf | >math calc 927000/25 |
| 23:12.24 | znf | erm |
| 23:20.31 | znf | >math calc 1043000 / 25 |
| 23:20.39 | znf | ... |
| 23:20.43 | znf | I'm too sleepy for this shit |
| 23:21.00 | zenzelezz | lua>1043000 / 25 |
| 23:21.00 | lua_bot | zenzelezz: 41720 |
| 23:22.02 | znf | yeah, I have another channel that I do that kind of stuff :P |
| 23:22.13 | znf | meh, not bad |
| 23:22.30 | znf | Spent 27.5k, earned 41.7k, 2 piece of loot and profit |
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| 23:39.19 | Aleco | Who wants to make some real $$$ |
| 23:39.23 | Aleco | query me |
| 23:40.07 | zenzelezz | sounds fishy |
| 23:40.54 | Thunder_Child | it does |
| 23:41.00 | Thunder_Child | no one says 'query me' |
| 23:41.27 | Aleco | uh |
| 23:41.32 | Aleco | no one says that? |
| 23:41.36 | Aleco | even though that's what it's called/ |
| 23:41.37 | Aleco | ? |
| 23:41.44 | Aleco | you guys must not go into bigger channels |
| 23:42.03 | tzarc | but I already make real $$$ |
| 23:42.10 | tzarc | this isn't monopoly, people |
| 23:42.12 | Thunder_Child | Yes, you got us, we are IRC shutins |
| 23:42.14 | Thunder_Child | ....oh wait |
| 23:42.34 | tzarc | occasionally I can even afford a coffee in the morning |
| 23:42.44 | zenzelezz | simply hinting at $$$ without any further info is fishy |
| 23:42.47 | Aleco | I wasn't trying to attract smart asses, so... |
| 23:42.59 | Aleco | I was being serious. If you're wanting to make some $$$, message me. |
| 23:43.03 | Thunder_Child | Well, that does seem to be most of this channel at one time or another, |
| 23:43.04 | kd3 | avoiding smart asses? in irc? good luck |
| 23:43.05 | zenzelezz | again, lacking info |
| 23:43.10 | Cairenn | Well, unless you care to give us some more information .... |
| 23:43.19 | zenzelezz | for all we know you could be looking for virus writers, or kidneys |
| 23:43.19 | Thunder_Child | s/,/./ |
| 23:43.25 | Cairenn | Arriving in the channel with no one knowing who you are ... |
| 23:43.32 | Aleco | Yes, and if I were looking for that, you'd find out in the query. |
| 23:43.44 | zenzelezz | what's so secret that you can't just say it here? |
| 23:43.47 | Thunder_Child | I want a kidney |
| 23:44.14 | Thunder_Child | and a pony |
| 23:44.29 | tzarc | I've got some smoked cheese in the fridge, will that do? |
| 23:44.55 | Thunder_Child | Not quite the same, but I suppose it is a start. |
| 23:45.05 | tzarc | I'll sell it to you for some real $$$ |
| 23:45.35 | Thunder_Child | define 'real'? |
| 23:45.46 | tzarc | same as whatever Aleco is offering, but better |
| 23:45.53 | tzarc | somehow |
| 23:46.02 | tzarc | where there's a will there's a way! |
| 23:46.06 | Thunder_Child | Über monies? |
| 23:46.23 | tzarc | highly likely |
| 23:46.42 | tzarc | we'll have to wait for Aleco to say in here in order to find out just how much better tho |
| 23:46.43 | Thunder_Child | hmm...well, I do have a thing for better than normal monies. |
| 23:47.30 | tzarc | well you're getting the smoked cheese, I'm getting the übermoney |
| 23:47.59 | Thunder_Child | but I don't have any übermoney. |
| 23:48.13 | tzarc | drat |
| 23:48.27 | tzarc | oh well, gonna go have some of my smoked cheese to console myself then |
| 23:48.48 | Thunder_Child | I still want a pony. |
| 23:49.23 | Rythal | money? someone said money? I like money... |
| 23:49.42 | Rythal | I want to make it rain one dollar bills |
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| 23:50.01 | Rythal | except that would be loonies and might get me sued if i took out an eye |
| 23:50.24 | Thunder_Child | How the hell would you take out an eye with a $ bill? |
| 23:50.31 | Thunder_Child | that happens to be floating down |
| 23:50.36 | Rythal | we don't have bills here... only coins :| |
| 23:50.50 | Thunder_Child | but you said bills |
| 23:51.01 | Thunder_Child | LIES! |
| 23:51.22 | Rythal | :( It's the idea that mattered! |
| 23:51.32 | Thunder_Child | I'm a litteralist |
| 23:51.43 | Thunder_Child | literalist* |
| 23:51.50 | tzarc | haha beat me to it :P |
| 23:52.03 | Thunder_Child | no, not a person that likes to make trash |
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| 23:52.10 | tzarc | serves me right for getting cheese :P |
| 23:53.01 | Thunder_Child | I see your cheese and rais you a bag of roasted edamame |
| 23:53.05 | Thunder_Child | raise* |
| 23:53.11 | tzarc | oooh nice |
| 23:53.15 | tzarc | with lots of salt I hope |
| 23:53.34 | Thunder_Child | I don't. I don't like salt all that much |
| 23:53.38 | tzarc | :S |
