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00:01.27VIadRessy: make a OnUpdate do the toggling for you with 0.01 delay and see what happens - I haven't tested, but seen someone use it in pvp.
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01:11.54Adysprettier github issues
01:11.55Adysweeee
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01:55.53Adyslol
01:55.55Adyshttp://i.imgur.com/3bwj7ii.png
01:56.29Adysthis is apparently a street somewhere in .. uh.. Tazewells-Claiborne County Airport
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02:57.41Semlarhttp://i.imgur.com/NDRlCiQ.jpg aw yis
02:57.48Semlardual bows
03:03.34Xueriandafuq
03:08.40kd3huh. got a steam survey in wine, but not on native. bah
03:08.50kd3at least it shows what wine version I'm using... >.>
03:15.13Semlarhttp://i.imgur.com/xQ7Yl1L.jpg
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03:52.19airtonixhey fisker
03:52.40airtonixhow does it feel to be a part of the android master race?
03:53.23airtonixSemlar: i didn't know picture framing was a crafting profession.
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04:48.46Maldiviahttp://m.joystiq.com/2013/04/04/jedi-outcast-and-jedi-academy-source-code-released/
04:49.00Maldiviapretty cool
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05:00.55AdysMaldivia: yeah :)
05:01.17Adysi guess a few good things can come out of LA being shut down
05:05.16bluspacecowha ha
05:05.29bluspacecowfor a min there i thought LA = Los Angeles  not lucasarts
05:12.25Adysand by good things i mean zombies!
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05:13.29karl_w_w<Adys> i guess a few good things can come out of LA being shut down <- implying bad things come out of it
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07:31.29PrimerIs there a reliable macro that tells you if you've done Oondasta for the week?
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07:54.24PrimerApparently not
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09:03.03Fiskeryes Primer
09:04.25Fiskeror i guess apparently not
09:08.54Semlarwhy not both?
09:12.49Alramwhy not neither?
09:25.48karl_w_wbooooo, they nerfed darkmoon card blue dragon :(
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12:39.00Adysfinally
12:39.01Adyshttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/RaringRingtail/TechnicalOverview#Python_3.3
12:39.27AdysPython 2 will continue to be available (as the python package)
12:39.30AdysARGH NO
12:39.52Adyswell, still a huge step forward... hopefully the few remaining distros will follow
12:40.03Adysand maybe debian will do it some time in the next fifteen years.
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12:59.14mikmawobin: http://youtu.be/KrPk3taXxEQ
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13:23.00Adyswhat's the word for "people from the balkans"?
13:23.07Adysit doesn't seem to be "balkanics" :p
13:23.11Adysbalkanics
13:24.11Adys"balkan people"... come on English =(
13:34.14mikmaadys: http://www.makkara.info/pics/2831.gif
13:34.39Adysmmm
13:34.40Adysim hungry
13:34.41LopeppeppyUm, it would depend on their nationality or ethnicity, Adys?
13:34.59AdysLopeppeppy: no, the point is to group "people from the balkans" as one
13:35.06Adysexample
13:35.07nevcairielits similar as saying "europeans"
13:35.12Adys"scandinavians are a bunch of wusses"
13:35.19nevcairielor those guys
13:36.15mikmaadys: better stop before tharper gets medievan on your ass
13:36.20LopeppeppyI'd get all historical and call them Illyrians or Ottomans or something, but nobody would understand that.
13:36.38karl_w_wthey are called people from the Balkans
13:37.23Adyskarl_w_w: english sucks for that reason
13:37.27LopeppeppyI could dig out some more historical nuggets for you, but wile they'd be awesome injokes, nobody modern would care.  :)
13:37.38nevcairieli'm not sure we have a word for that either
13:37.44nevcairieltbh i've never bothered to think about it
13:37.51Lopeppeppy"The Balkan peoples fight like caged wombats when cornered" is a nice phrase.
13:38.26nevcairielheck we dont typically use balkan, we call it south-east-europe :P
13:38.35AdysLopeppeppy: I'll replace the quick brown fox with that :P
13:39.10LopeppeppySoutheastern Europeans fight like caged wombats when cornered," then.
13:41.24LopeppeppyBah. Pigeon holes and labels and apple pies.
13:55.47karl_w_wi had apple pie flavoured ice cream last week, it was awesome
13:57.11LopeppeppyI had Samoas ice cream. Or whatever they renamed those Girl Scout Cookies. To die for.
13:59.07VIad"When using name plates, castbars will now display for all NPCs."
13:59.40VIadI shmell some nameplate recoding (removing the manual bar update, as it probably is handled on the C side?)
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15:43.03Simcarandom question - out of curiousity, would it be possible to improve recount using co-routines?
15:43.58Simcawowpedia mentions their high memory usage, but in most modern systems, this is not an issue at all - but the CPU taxing on WoW's primary thread is an issue
15:44.55foxlitthere's no point, Simca.
15:45.17karl_w_wwow does have a primary thread
15:45.20karl_w_wit has 1 thread
15:45.28karl_w_wdoesn't*
15:45.49Simcaif you do an intense calculation in lua, you will freeze the game
15:45.58Simcaif you do it in a co-routine, you will not
15:46.12foxlitand does recount do any intense calculations?
15:46.29karl_w_wno it does lots of simple ones
15:46.30foxlitadding up all those damage numbers must be hard, but surely not /that/ hard?
15:46.40Simcano, but I was curious if this extended beyond calculations into data recording as well
15:46.47Simcain the same manner
15:47.32nevcairielfor the record, you cant just wrap stuff into a coroutine and make it magically work better, its cooperative multitasking, the algorithm needs to know to stop working and resume later
15:47.44foxlitin short, no, there's no benefit.
15:48.58nevcairielcoroutines are not multi-threading, Lua in WoW is always one and the same thread
15:49.07nevcairielso usefulness is limited
15:49.07VIadwhy doesn't the lua interface have access to more than one thread?
15:49.21VIadit would be beneficial to run custom addons in separate threads if desired, no?
15:50.17nevcairielbecause multithreading can be a headache for experienced programmers, on all the hobby programmers doing wow addons, it would raise havoc
15:50.51Fiskerhey nevcairiel
15:51.57nevcairielhey Fisker
15:51.59FiskerBlizzard just needs to commercialize addons in the next mmo
15:51.59VIadI don't see why that is a reason not to have it at all tough
15:52.02Fiskerproblem solved
15:52.20nevcairielVIad: because you don't know the problems involved with multithreading
15:52.22karl_w_wit just wouldnt work VIad
15:52.43nevcairielit would also increase the complexity of the Lua integration into the game engine 10 fold or so
15:52.56VIadit's true, I have worked a little making apps for android and they are all thread based, but not too experienced with it
15:53.33VIadhey, can you at least use lua corutines to pause and start calculations so your game doesn't freeze?
15:53.45nevcairielyes
15:53.54nevcairielwell, the calculations have to pause themself
15:53.59VIadaha
15:54.01nevcairieland you can then resume them from the outside
15:54.04VIadyeah because one thread
15:54.19nevcairielits really the only useful case, calculations which take incredibly long
15:54.36nevcairielI believe Routes uses it for its path building, and iirc Auctioneer also for some data processing
15:54.55nevcairielstuff that would just freeze the game for rather long if done without interruptions
15:55.02VIadif you have a old machine and run a combat meter addon that gathers a lot of info, you can quickly get huge fps drops in lfr combat
15:55.56SimcaI've seen Recount spike to 30-40% CPU use on my i5-2500k
15:56.01Simcaso it isn't just old machines
15:56.55karl_w_whttp://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/magazine/cc163744.aspx VIad
15:57.39VIadthanks karl
15:58.15Simcabut yeah that was the issue I was curious if coroutines could improve. I suppose it could improve the addon in a very limited manner - i.e. if CPU use exceeds X then pause updating the charts but still collect data
15:58.51VIadwouldn't a CPU check cost a lot of performance to do if done too often?
15:58.57Simcayes
15:59.06Simcaand it's not enabled by default anyway
15:59.11VIadyeah
15:59.21VIadif you turn on debugging you generally reduce performance too
15:59.21nevcairielcpu profiling takes more cpu then the addon itself 0p
15:59.26VIadjupp
15:59.32Simcayou'd have to use OnUpdate stuff to figure out how many frames you were dropping
16:01.26karl_w_wit would be possible to run addons in their own thread completely seperately
16:01.36karl_w_wbut blizzard would have to section them off
16:01.46karl_w_wyou wouldnt be able to change the default ui in any way
16:02.05nevcairielif you go this route, you would run all lua in a separate thread
16:02.08nevcairieldefault ui and addons
16:02.17nevcairielhowever, the problem is functions which interact with the game engine
16:02.22nevcairielyou would sync back to the main thread
16:03.11Fiskercan't you just get Apple to make the next MMO?
16:03.18nevcairielwhich means from the time you get an event (say UNIT_HEALTH), and you call UnitHealth to query for the health, the value could already have changed again
16:03.27nevcairielits a world of pain
16:04.11Simcayou'd think it would be to blizzard's advantage to help optimize recount/skada/damage meter addons, since they're probably the #1 cause of performance loss for most players
16:04.27Sharparamnevcairiel: can't they make it supply the unit health as a parameter to the event then?
16:04.45karl_w_wi doubt they'd be able to optimize them that much
16:04.48nevcairielsure, but that doesnt solve the overall problem
16:05.10karl_w_wthe only thing they could do is make their own damage meter and do all the calculations for it server side
16:05.17Simcasure, the users are stabbing themselves in the foot by running the addon, but if everyone is doing it, you might as well invest in metal boots
16:05.22nevcairielhow would they know what information your addon wants to query when the event ZONE_CHANGED_NEW_AREA fires?
16:05.40nevcairielit just opens a huge new can of worms
16:05.56Sharparamwell it's not like zone changed fires dozens of times a second
16:06.10karl_w_wthats not the point
16:06.16SimcaUPDATE_WORLD_STATES
16:06.19Simcadoes
16:06.35Simcaand multiple others if you're doing certain things
16:06.57Sharparamare there any multithreaded mod-enabled mmos or other games?
16:07.03nevcairielthe point is, it would be possible to move addons of the main thread, but its certainly not trivial, and it would guaranteed be buggy for a long time
16:07.29karl_w_wthe point is if you have multiple threads any of the data they use can change at any time
16:07.31Simcayeah, that's probably the last thing we want since it would take 10 years to fix the bugs it would introduce
16:07.39karl_w_wwhich is fine if you are running all the code
16:07.44Simcaconsidering blizzard still hasn't fixed bugs introduced in patch 4.0
16:08.00karl_w_wits not fine when you have blizzard doing some code and every joe bloggs doing their own code
16:10.01foxlitSimca: considering blizzard still hasn't fixed bugs introduced in patch 4.0 << are there any worth caring about?
16:10.09Simcayes
16:10.10Simcahttp://www.curse.com/addons/wow/stratafix
16:10.13karl_w_wprobably
16:10.19Simcathe frame strata bug is horribly horribly annoying
16:10.38foxlitNever experienced that.
16:10.47karl_w_w:o
16:11.01Simcayou probably have without realizing it - if you lose functionality on the left half of the encounter journal
16:11.08Simcathat's the bug in action
16:11.10Sharparamevery time i open any frame i find myself manually changing the frame levels
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16:11.34foxlitthe left half of the encounter journal does something?
16:11.56karl_w_wif ur on the list of raids
16:12.28karl_w_wit broke a bunch of addons I'm surprised you haven't encountered it
16:12.32SimcaAtlasLoot also breaks quite a bit - at least it did for me
16:12.41karl_w_wark inventory as well
16:14.00Sharparamis there an addon that goes through the default ui panels and fixes the frame levels?
16:14.00LopeppeppyAnd now, I shall listen to Avenue Q at work. So I don't kill someone.
16:14.45Sharparami've been considering making one for personal use to replace all my /run commands
16:15.04Simcathe above linked stratafix should prevent the bug from ever occuring
16:15.13Sharparamoh, didn't see that
16:15.14foxlitI just don't run a lot of addons; FrameXML seems to mostly work correctly  for me.
16:15.21karl_w_wmost of the time :P
16:15.37Simcaah, yeah it seems to occur much much faster if you run a high number of addons, foxlit
16:16.15Simcaseems to happen more frequently when the highest framelevel is over 120 or so
16:16.28foxlitthe only strata issue I'm familiar with is caused directly by Antiarc. *shakes fist*
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16:35.03DagmarI'll have to try that one out
16:36.18Dagmar...because it's totally awesome when I accidentally drag a complex window over another complex window (I'm looking at you ArkInventory) and the system spends several whole clock seconds doing nothing but reshuffling layers.
16:36.34karl_w_wlol yeah
16:37.00DagmarAnything that tries to address that early can only help.
16:37.38karl_w_wark inventory is still a bit of a hog with it
16:38.40DagmarYeah but it's far from the only one.  Anything with a complex layout consisting of multiply-nested elements seems to just go apeshit when you get it near any other such window
16:39.19DagmarI can move 'em around 20 times in a row and nothing happens, but if I'm actually in a hurry... guaranteed lunacy.
16:41.21LopeppeppyOn a hot summer night, would you offer your throat to the wolf with the red roses?
16:42.09DagmarOh he's nothing special since I got that tome.
16:42.15DagmarI can be my own pack of wolves now.
16:42.52DagmarNon-combat wolf, wolf pet, dwarf shapeshifted into wolf... and then for extra luls... STAMPEDE.
16:45.39karl_w_wLopeppeppy: yes.
16:46.38LopeppeppyI bet you say that to all the boys.
16:46.48karl_w_wyou know it
16:48.39karl_w_wit was a hut summuh naight and the be-ach was buunin there was farg crollin ovuh the sand
16:49.24Torhal|workAyup.
16:50.29LopeppeppyFahg. Bostonians don't use the letter "r"
16:51.07karl_w_wlistening to it now, I think it's fawg
16:51.40LopeppeppySpotify is my friend. If I didn't have crappy earbuds, that is.
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17:01.11LopeppeppyObjects in the rearview mirror may appear closer than they are.
17:03.31UnkleI thought it was "Objects in mirror are closer than they appear."
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17:04.27karl_w_wi thought it varied
17:05.32LopeppeppyI think you need to listen to the song again.  :P
17:06.47karl_w_wim not talking about a song :P
17:07.02Unklehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0CQokgv0dQw
17:07.22LopeppeppyTwo out of three ain't bad.
17:07.35karl_w_wthat's true
17:07.51karl_w_wfancy a bit of paradise by the dashboard light?
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17:08.55LopeppeppyMmm. If it gets me to take off the emopants
17:09.41BeautiuzAnyone know if a scrollframe inside of an other scrollframe is supported/working?
17:09.42Beautiuz\
17:09.48BeautiuzGot some strange problems with it
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17:16.42Beautiuzhere an image with the problem: http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/8787/scrollframebug.png
17:22.09UnkleBeautiuz: What's the second Scroll Frame have as a parent?
17:22.36Fiskermomma and papa frame
17:22.37Beautiuza few other frames and then the frame that is the child if the big scroll frame
17:23.06Beautiuzof the*
17:24.29UnkleDoes it work properly if you parent it to something else?
17:24.44Unklealso Fisker, lulz.
17:24.49Beautiuzhere you can see the frames: http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/4825/scrollframebug2.png
17:25.33Beautiuzdidnt try it yet, but that is the first scroll frame inside an other scroll frame that gives directly this effect, got multiple scroll frames (not inside a scrollframe) that are working just normaly
17:26.40UnkleI wouldn't know from direct experience, I'm just fiddling about the edges of the issue.
17:27.24Beautiuzgoing to move that problem scroll frame outside of the parent scroll frame to see if the problem still exists
17:28.38Beautiuzscroll frame just work as it need to be if not inside of an other scroll frame
17:29.00LopeppeppyIf I didn't have to teach the sheeple how to log in so often, they'd get more work done.
17:30.11UnkleLopeppeppy: Most of helpdesk time is spent on password resets and teaching people to login.  We had big ass charts of the data generated from our call records when I was at UofH.
17:31.16karl_w_wis that a variant of the pie chart?
17:32.35BeautiuzBut anyone a clue about a scroll frame inside an other scroll frame?
17:33.21Lopeppeppy"No. Asterisk. The star that you get with the shift key and the number 8."
17:33.46karl_w_wnot astericks?
17:34.06karl_w_wor even ashtricks?
17:34.21UnkleThe "backslash key is the one above the Enter or Return key, not the one on the key with the question  mark."
17:34.38UnkleI still end up saying that in my nightmares.
17:35.38karl_w_wbackspace is not delete
17:37.15TC-workSomeone give me 300GB of ram kthx
17:38.17karl_w_wsounds like you've got yourself a project TC
17:38.35TC-workActually, we are working on building out a gaming machine
17:39.03TC-workI can't seem to run Borderlands 2 with 60+ fps consistently on what I have.
17:39.08TC-work(for work)
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17:42.18oprhey guys, im having real trouble thinking how to do this: I'm going to have a text box that will display data whenever someone sends a message in a certain channel. Now, I want to display the message in a separate window, but have it scroll too
17:42.46oprSo I'm thinking of a FauxScrollFrame, but it's not working, I'm getting an error when I try to update() it
17:43.21karl_w_wthat's US$2255.86 please TC-work
17:44.04TC-workkarl_w_w: That is quite a bit cheaper than I was expecting...are those all 512 sticks or something?
17:44.24karl_w_w37 8gb sticks and a 4gb stick :P
17:44.43TC-workwhat freq?
17:44.51karl_w_w1333
17:44.52TC-workand are they ecc?
17:45.11LopeppeppyAll revved up with no place to go.
17:45.23karl_w_wi do not know
17:45.48karl_w_win reality this would be + shipping from australia :P
17:46.38TC-workbah, Aussie chips.  I don't want to have to shear them first.
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17:47.39karl_w_wharhar
17:48.08karl_w_w$1 more each for 1600 8gb sticks with heat spreaders
17:48.33Fiskerheat spreaders suck
17:49.12karl_w_wyes
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17:50.46karl_w_w$4 more for ECC @ 1600
17:51.52karl_w_wthe only things we get in australia for a decent price in comparison to the rest of the world are PC parts and natural gas
17:52.14UnkleOpals.
17:52.23karl_w_wand i guess some mineral resources but most people dont have much use for them :P
17:54.29karl_w_wit's cheaper to fly to the US buy adobe cs6 and fly back than it is to buy it here
17:54.39nevcairiellol
17:56.15Cairenn|afkUmmm, wow, okay ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTTwcCVajAc
17:58.19karl_w_wtip #1: screen glow is not flattering
17:58.32UnkleCairenn: OMFG
17:58.46CairennI know, right?
17:59.22UnkleSo painful I couldn't get through the whole thing.
17:59.36CairennOh - you probably missed the best part then
17:59.39karl_w_wcan't be real surely
17:59.42CairennIt just got better and better
18:00.17Cairenn*snark*
18:00.18Cairennhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sP4NMoJcFd4
18:00.19TC-workbetterer and betterer*
18:02.06Unklerewatching ... toughing it out.
18:02.15Cairennheh
18:02.44Unkleoh dear god
18:03.03Cairenntold ya
18:03.56UnkleDo not let that woman near cats.
18:04.06CairennIndeed
18:04.10nevcairielbut she just wants to hug them
18:04.13nevcairielall of them!
18:04.24CairennALL the cats
18:04.58CairennI love cats too, but really?  She is the definition of 'crazy cat lady'
18:05.17nevcairieljust without cats at hand
18:05.29Cairennthank goodness, for the cats
18:06.45Unkleand bow ties, and rainbows and just fill the house with them and roll around...
18:09.27karl_w_wand throw them at passers by
18:14.52karl_w_whttp://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4872957/Erratic-motorist-was-under-the-influence-of-drum-and-bass.html lol
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18:18.16TC-work"The court heard said Cogley would now lose his job." Proofreading seems to be a dead art.
18:19.49karl_w_wthis is the Sun TC-work, I wouldn't be surprised if the whole article was fiction
18:20.11TC-workThat bad?
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18:33.03znfAnyone knows of some decent nameplate addon that tracks DoTS (like tidyplates does)?
18:36.17karl_w_wtidyplates :D
18:39.30znfkarl_w_w, if he could fix the dots disappearing when you go out of range of the unit, I wouldn't be looking for another nameplate addon
18:39.54karl_w_whmm
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18:40.02karl_w_wis that even possible to fix
18:40.34smcnpossibly if you can get guid from the nameplate
18:40.40znfmy sugestion would be to track dots by guid of the target instead of nameplate :-/
18:40.54znfbut I don't know the specifics
18:41.27smcnyou can usually refresh the timers by mousing over them, but i can see the hassle in that in chaotic situations
18:41.48smcnmousing over the target i mean
18:42.12znfit's a pain at horridon where ads move all over the place and I need to keep dots up on all my targets
18:42.20smcnyeah
18:43.40znfI noticed this to an extent during Amber Shaper, too, but ads were dying fast enough there (the little blobs)
18:44.57znfit's also a pain that it never seems to track my Vampiric Touch properly in multi-target situations. If I have to dot everything up, for example, I will usually cast SWP, which is instant, then cast Vampiric Touch. During the cast time, I switch to another ad. But because that's not my target anymore, the nameplate won't reliably show VT (it's like a 50/50% situation)
18:45.08jnwhitehAnyone have Sim City 5 beta for Mac?
18:46.09znfI also think he could get around that if he would sync the data trough tidyplates users, but it could potentially be a resource issue (so much text!)
18:46.26Fiskerwhy jnwhiteh ?
18:46.43TC-workMaybe Iriel, He is the only one I know that plays and has a mac
18:48.10jnwhitehFisker: cause I want to play it
18:48.12jnwhiteh=(
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19:06.53smcnman 3 lfr queues for the second section of tot all of them after tortos
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19:08.16Mr_Rabieshmmmm
19:08.44Mr_Rabiesare there any addons that alert to a queue popping even if the ingame sound is muted?
19:09.06UnkleTry Alt-Tabber
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19:15.50TC-workUnkle: you going to pull a cogwheel and drive down?
19:24.35LopeppeppyYay!
19:26.58LopeppeppyOh, wait. Not to see me. To see you.  *pout*
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19:28.55znfI remember there's one that actually brings forward your game?
19:29.21znfor maybe it's that one that Unkle said
19:29.34TC-workLopeppeppy: not me, for blizzcon
19:30.48TC-workI don't think Unkle likes me enough to drive across 500 miles.
19:31.37LopeppeppyI can warn him about your table manners, would that help?
19:32.16TC-workThis is Unkle...you really think I out class him?
19:33.27znf"Unfortunately the console gxRestart command doesn't work in window mode. You'll have to use the alert sound."
19:33.30znfoh great, useless then
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19:40.59UnkleTC-work: Yeah, I intend to drive to BlizzCon assuming I can a) get tix, b) get time off.
19:41.43TC-workUnkle: You should havbe accrued vacation by this time
19:41.46TC-workhave*
19:43.43LopeppeppyUnkle can have manners when he chooses.
19:44.55TC-workAs can I.
19:44.58UnkleTC-work: It should be fine.  The trick will be tix.  Money is very tight around the time they go on sale, thanks to April being the month in which I have to pay state and federal taxes.
19:47.03UnkleTC-work: You're in the "greater Los Angeles area", si?
19:47.20TC-workUnkle: Yes
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19:48.28UnkleAre you planing to go to BC?  Or should I try to block out a few hours to grab a drink with you while I'm down there?
19:49.18TC-workUnkle: I was going to try to make it down to the Dinner.  I have found that I don't really enjoy conventions.
19:49.34UnkleOk.  We'll toss back some whiskey then.
19:49.35TC-workDepends on my car.  I really don't trust my 20 year old POS
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19:50.14TC-workWell, One of us will be tossing back whiskey
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19:50.28UnkleMy SUV is an '05, so if need be, and assuming I go, I'd be happy to give you a lift.
19:51.01TC-workI appreciate it Unkle, but I don't feel like hitchhiking back.
19:51.16UnkleHeh
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19:51.41TC-workI hope to have a fancy new car by then anyway
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19:57.51Semlar:O
19:58.56Semlari'm pretty sure my car wouldn't make it to 20
20:00.41TC-workDepends where you live.  For example I have a ton of family in Toronto, Canada, and they have mentioned that you are lucky if you can keep it for 5 years due to the climate effects on the vehicles.
20:01.09Semlari'm in florida so the weather is pretty mild
20:02.02Semlarit's a 97 chevy cavalier and i'm just waiting for the wheels to fall off
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20:04.00TC-workI thought florida get horrid humidity?
20:04.23Semlarthe humidity is high
20:04.49Semlarhow much does that affect the car
20:04.55TC-workwell, there is material fatigue right there that you tend not to get in Los Angeles.
20:05.31Semlarwe mostly just get a lot of storms
20:05.51TC-workAlso something we don't really get
20:06.09TC-workAlthough I would note that my car only has ~80K miles.
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20:07.01Semlari'm up to 120k
20:07.05UnkleTC-work: LA air is corrosive, and so is the salt that comes inland.
20:07.58TC-workAs opposed to the peninsula that is florida?
20:08.21Semlarif you aren't near the coast it isn't very salty
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20:09.17UnkleFlorida is a strange place geographically.  At points you can drive from coast to coast in like... a little over an hour and a half.
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20:12.58UnkleHrm, new email filtering software is a bit... aggressive.
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20:34.44TC-workCairenn: ^ they have been bouncing for the last hour and a half or so
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20:54.49Ackisto hell with major video studios
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21:00.39TC-workAckis: video or movie?
21:00.52Ackisvideo
21:01.08Ackisreally, why the hell do they need to have their "digital" codes expire after a few years?
21:01.10TC-workI didn't even know they had major video studios
21:01.32TC-workoh...that kind of studio
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21:10.33TC-workhttp://kotaku.com/dogs-wearing-pantyhose-is-now-a-thing-in-china-470825807
21:14.25smcntry #4 on forgotten depths lfr, again midway through
21:20.03foxlitsmcn: did you ever finish the instance?
21:20.41smcni went through it twice before, both of those times were also after the first boss
21:20.53smcnso 6 times in total queueing each of them past tortos
21:22.43foxlitfor me, it seems like the initial queue is almost always a raid-in-progress, while if I finish that and requeue, it gives me an actual new raid.
21:23.07foxlitI suppose that depends on how much your role tends to churn, though
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21:48.14Unklenetwork issues in the curse offices?
21:49.54Kalroththey're cursed!
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22:10.34TC-work~lart Kalroth
22:10.34purlacting on orders from an unspecified client drags Kalroth into court suing for $200 million
22:10.55Kalroth:(
22:11.13TC-workIt was valid from that pun you made
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23:30.19znfapi call to figure out if an item is usable or not? (and it's cooldown?)
23:36.17Primerits
23:37.27znfGetInventoryItemCooldown, mkay
23:37.44Wobinhm
23:37.55Wobinany UKers willing to help me buy Bioshock Infinite?
23:38.08WobinI hear it's 30 gbp atm
23:38.18znfaaand... not working
23:38.54Wobin(on steam)
23:39.07znfWobin, my VPS is uk based and has a proxy and a vpn server running on it
23:39.10znfWould that help?
23:40.37Wobinznf: possibly! Can you have a look at http://store.steampowered.com/app/8870/ as a UKian and see what price comes up?
23:41.03znfsure, let me start my slow-fox browser
23:41.51znfhttp://i.imgur.com/8BGeOWm.png Wobin

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