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| 00:32.37 | VIad | Unethical human experimentation in the United States. "During the Nuremberg trials, several of the Nazi doctors and scientists who were being tried for their human experiments claimed that the inspiration for their studies had come from studies that they had seen performed in the United States. In 1945, as part of Operation Paperclip, the United States government recruited 1,600 Nazi scientists, |
| 00:32.39 | VIad | many of whom had performed human experimentation in Nazi concentration camps. The scientists were offered immunity from any war crimes they had committed during the course of their work for the Nazi government, in return for doing similar research for the United States government. Many of the Nazi scientists continued their human experimentation when they arrived in the United States." |
| 00:33.08 | VIad | was just browsing wiki, thought I could share this factoid :P http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_experimentation_in_the_United_States#Legal.2C_academic_and_professional_policy |
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| 00:34.16 | zenzelezz | :-o |
| 00:35.52 | VIad | was reading about the Manhattan Project and later about that incident where plutonium was injected into someone not aware of it - just to see what the effects were - later browsed futher into unethical experimentation with humans :P |
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| 00:52.27 | znf | back in Cataclysm - weren't raid markers scaling with the unit size? |
| 00:52.30 | znf | or am I remembering things? |
| 00:56.43 | zenzelezz | don't know about then, but I remember at least in BC they didn't. I amused myself (but probably no-one else) by assigning a raid marker on Supremus |
| 00:56.57 | Primer | hunter's mark too |
| 00:57.16 | bluspacecow | https://twitter.com/joerumz/status/317733695886868480 |
| 00:57.41 | Iriel | bluspacecow: it was a reasonably interesting presentation. |
| 00:57.59 | Iriel | Though it's not going to give any insights about how wow works |
| 00:58.23 | Iriel | As he said in his pre-talk intro "If you want to know what's in the boxes, this is not the talk for you, if you want to know about the green lines, this IS the talk for you" |
| 00:59.31 | bluspacecow | http://theoatmeal.com/comics/gay_marriage |
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| 02:57.24 | kd3 | hm. I wonder if the skiddies are ddosing the irc servers again |
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| 04:39.17 | Primer | I'm trying to fix Skada's "hide in pvp" option |
| 04:40.25 | Primer | Turning out to be quite tedious |
| 04:40.46 | Primer | As the code that hides it for pvp is overridden by something else |
| 04:41.37 | znf | wow... after more than 500 pet battles in the last 2 days, I finally get a flawless battle stone |
| 04:43.01 | Primer | I've yet to do a pet battle |
| 04:43.35 | znf | I do them on my alt for Lesser Charms :D |
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| 06:00.44 | ccox | http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/pyongyang-shifts-to-war-footing/story-e6frg6so-1226609423464 |
| 06:00.45 | ccox | r |
| 06:00.46 | ccox | uh |
| 06:00.48 | ccox | ruh, ro |
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| 06:04.43 | Dagmar | Well, at least this time the _entire_ free world thinks the leader of NK is a goddamn looney |
| 06:05.36 | Dagmar | I would *really* not be suprised to see China step in on them. |
| 06:18.05 | Cairenn|afk | I hope -someone- can get them under control, fast. It's getting very scary. |
| 06:20.06 | Dagmar | I'm sure it' |
| 06:20.12 | Dagmar | s absolutely terrifying for SK. |
| 06:21.14 | Dagmar | I don't think they have any kind of missile defense over there, let alone something like iron dome |
| 06:21.55 | Dagmar | The rest of the world would step in to help them out, but a lot of people would get killed first. |
| 06:26.00 | airtonix_ | i'm pretty sure all they'll come up with is the equiv of the schoolyard whirlwind... all show and no effect. |
| 06:48.50 | ccox | I would not be too surprised of China squashed them like a gnat |
| 06:49.22 | ccox | Dag - the USA has been sending missile defense to SK for a while now |
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| 08:51.28 | Adys | http://www.reddit.com/r/PanicHistory |
| 08:51.28 | Adys | haha |
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| 09:05.33 | Adys | is there an addont hat replaces/improves the archeology panel? specifically, makes it searchable and displays artifacts that have never been completed |
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| 09:23.11 | Simca | Archy displays ones not completed |
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| 09:31.28 | Yoshimo | which brings me back to: we need a new tag for localised digsites of babbledigsites/archy |
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| 10:56.16 | AcidWeb | http://i.imgur.com/3THvUIF.jpg |
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| 12:37.30 | Adys | Simca: i cant find what you mean |
| 12:37.35 | Adys | i installed archy |
| 12:38.58 | Simca | it has a ton of different panels but it shows on one of them |
| 12:39.40 | Simca | http://media-curse.cursecdn.com/attachments/64/537/4dfed404519fb114995617ada2753653.png |
| 12:43.55 | Adys | Simca: i really cant find that panel |
| 12:44.10 | Adys | it has three panels, that one seems to be the minimap tooltip |
| 12:44.20 | Adys | but i cant find this stuff in i |
| 12:44.21 | Adys | it |
| 12:44.44 | karl_w_w | yeah I use archy religiously and I've never found the supposed unsolved artifacts display |
| 12:44.48 | Adys | ah found it |
| 12:44.59 | Adys | click in the minimap tooltip and then the races become clickable too |
| 12:45.23 | Simca | the design is really bad honestly |
| 12:45.34 | Simca | but it works, and nobody has made anything better, so meh |
| 12:45.46 | karl_w_w | i dont use any of the on-screen stuff |
| 12:45.56 | karl_w_w | just the distance indicator and the tooltip |
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| 12:48.59 | Adys | Simca: it's way, way too complex |
| 12:49.32 | bluspacecow | hmmm |
| 12:49.43 | bluspacecow | left my apple juice on the desk while at work' |
| 12:49.49 | bluspacecow | hope its still ok to drink |
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| 12:52.21 | karl_w_w | depends how much you like cleaner's spit, bluspacecow |
| 12:52.39 | bluspacecow | i woves it! |
| 12:58.01 | VIad | found a 45 min Eurobeat mix song in GTA4 :D |
| 12:58.04 | VIad | funky stuff |
| 12:59.07 | VIad | and no it's not the same as "eurobeat" in Youtube :P |
| 12:59.15 | VIad | this is more like disco/electronica :P |
| 12:59.20 | bluspacecow | your a bat ? |
| 12:59.54 | VIad | yes I only come out during the night |
| 13:00.08 | bluspacecow | oh |
| 13:00.14 | bluspacecow | your a beet |
| 13:01.59 | VIad | what is a beet, bluspacecow? |
| 13:02.09 | Simca | karl_w_w, Adys: yeah, archy has some serious optimization problems mainly - it causes TomTom CPU usage to increase tenfold. |
| 13:02.19 | bluspacecow | phoenticatically spelled out eurobeat |
| 13:02.21 | Adys | :/ |
| 13:02.24 | Simca | TomTom CPU use with Archy is 2-5%, without is 0% |
| 13:02.26 | Adys | anyway i got what i wanted |
| 13:02.38 | VIad | I am just afraid you might be thinking something else than what I have in mind, bluspacecow |
| 13:02.59 | Adys | i need 2 tolvir, one troll, one fossil and one dwarf |
| 13:03.01 | Adys | in rares |
| 13:04.28 | VIad | they didn't add new arch items for the pandarian races, only the new arch faction has new items |
| 13:04.42 | VIad | kind of lame, maxed out the others waiting for a patch to add more stuff so it's work researching :P |
| 13:09.08 | VIad | bluspacecow: link me what you think eurobeat is, just curious. |
| 13:09.32 | bluspacecow | http://www.hartungbrothers.com/portals/0/beethome.jpg |
| 13:09.36 | bluspacecow | from europe |
| 13:09.44 | VIad | :3 |
| 13:09.58 | bluspacecow | *laffs a bit* |
| 13:10.26 | bluspacecow | its a european music award show for funny european peoples and originated of a few styles of music |
| 13:11.04 | VIad | bluspacecow: have you played tom raider, the new one? |
| 13:11.16 | bluspacecow | tom raider ? d |
| 13:11.22 | VIad | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomb_Raider_%282013_video_game%29 |
| 13:11.29 | VIad | it's good :) |
| 13:11.30 | bluspacecow | does Tom know about this ? and how does he feel about being raider ? |
| 13:12.36 | VIad | only lame part is that sales wise Square Enix said that the game didn't sell good enough :/ |
| 13:12.50 | VIad | so I hope they won't ruin the chances for a sequel because of this |
| 13:12.52 | bluspacecow | hmm |
| 13:12.59 | bluspacecow | i could go with a game called Tongue Raider |
| 13:13.08 | bluspacecow | how about you baby *eyewaggle* |
| 13:13.31 | VIad | oh shit its Saturday, I thought it was Sunday lol |
| 13:15.41 | VIad | funny because easater is celebrated this week but also next week I think, depending on your country :P |
| 13:16.12 | bluspacecow | good friday, easter sunday. easter monday. it's all in the names there |
| 13:16.31 | VIad | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Easter#Table_of_the_dates_of_Easter |
| 13:16.44 | VIad | no holiday on 5th May tough :( |
| 13:17.12 | VIad | last year it was in april also, this year it's end of march ^^ |
| 13:26.02 | VIad | would be nice with RegisterCombatEvent API with some filter syntax to help specifiy what we wish to monitor and run our function at |
| 13:26.25 | VIad | performance wise might save a bit or no? atm everyone just registered the unfiltered one and has their function ran at every combat event |
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| 14:02.20 | znf | foxlit, uhm, why isn't Masque supported anymore? :-/ My rings look hideous now |
| 14:08.58 | VIad | "Dodgeball has been banned in Windham schools, due to concerns about violence and bullying." :D |
| 14:09.22 | VIad | yes I remember the days, big fat Vlad couldn't win no dodgeball, got bullied all my life for it /street life is hard :( |
| 14:15.33 | foxlit | the hots protoss ai makes an inexplicable amount of warp prisms which it then doesn't use for anything. |
| 14:16.22 | foxlit | znf: they should look something like this: http://s.cdn.wowinterface.com/preview/pvw59962.png |
| 14:17.15 | znf | foxlit, I was quite fond of my rounded theme from Masque :( |
| 14:17.30 | foxlit | ah, so hideous is more of a description of your aesthetic taste :) |
| 14:17.47 | foxlit | I was slightly concerned there might be a bug that caused things to look worse than they should. |
| 14:17.56 | foxlit | anyhow, back to your question. |
| 14:18.43 | znf | nah, want my rounded theme back :D |
| 14:19.11 | foxlit | Masque isn't supported because it's too far away OPie's UI code, and I have no desired to maintain the half-broken shim to translate between the two. |
| 14:19.57 | znf | wtb themes for OPie, then :-" |
| 14:21.05 | foxlit | what did you use before? |
| 14:21.22 | znf | trying to find a screenshot |
| 14:21.32 | znf | Serenity was the theme I used |
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| 14:23.01 | znf | foxlit, http://i.imgur.com/ew7KivA.png |
| 14:24.21 | foxlit | minus th black outline, looks pretty similar? |
| 14:24.56 | znf | the thicker border makes for a more pleasing look go me :-( |
| 14:25.04 | znf | also, I don't think these should have item counts: http://i.imgur.com/l1T50S3.png |
| 14:25.06 | Fisker | the tooltip is wrong znf |
| 14:25.26 | foxlit | znf: working around a blizzard bug. |
| 14:25.46 | Fisker | are you sure it's a blizzard bug and not just you trying to automate glyphing? |
| 14:26.24 | foxlit | heh, everything is that delightful shade of change-it-now-oh-god-it-burns-green |
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| 14:27.54 | foxlit | (if you remove the custom slice colors assigned to your slices, it the borders really should match the icon, like on the gem/tailoring slices) |
| 14:28.38 | znf | I don't remember setting up any custom color though |
| 14:29.12 | foxlit | it's an old version/new version thing. The old version slapped you with that delightful shade of green by default; the new version doesn't. |
| 14:29.59 | foxlit | Like three years ago, I picked that shade in the hope that people would be annoyed enough to change it to something matching. Today, I have the technology to fix it without resorting to blackmail. |
| 14:31.18 | foxlit | (but I couldn't do it retroactively, since there's no way to tell whether that green is there because it's the default, or because the player adores it to death) |
| 14:31.31 | znf | well, I didn't have to be concerned with it because I used my masque theme :P |
| 14:32.31 | foxlit | mm, bring back buttonfacade :P |
| 14:33.06 | znf | but isn't Masque buttonfacade? :-/ |
| 14:33.12 | znf | they just changed name, didn't they? |
| 14:33.31 | foxlit | there were api changes; I don't particularly keep up. |
| 14:34.00 | foxlit | BF let me apply those colors to skins, I think |
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| 14:59.04 | VIad | subprocess.call stealing focus :-( |
| 14:59.13 | VIad | bat script |
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| 15:10.16 | karl_w_w | bats VIad |
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| 15:26.14 | VIad | hi karl |
| 15:27.18 | karl_w_w | ew I just noticed something |
| 15:27.23 | karl_w_w | http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/bb/TNGopeninglogo.png |
| 15:27.36 | karl_w_w | The T in Trek doesn't line up with itself |
| 15:27.44 | bluspacecow | the star is totally boning the trek |
| 15:28.11 | VIad | I guess it's so there isn't too much gap between the line and ARE? |
| 15:28.14 | VIad | R* |
| 15:29.04 | karl_w_w | lol |
| 15:30.58 | karl_w_w | o god and the gaps aren't all the same size |
| 15:31.24 | VIad | bluspacecow: you have to help me label this genre :P |
| 15:31.35 | bluspacecow | stone wash |
| 15:36.32 | VIad | not sure how because it's 45 min /100 mb file :P |
| 15:36.33 | VIad | lol |
| 15:37.03 | VIad | why is the filename called eurobeat when it's not eurobeat music (like youtube suggests) - damn you filename! |
| 15:37.52 | VIad | according to youtube, eurobeat is some japanese made music that goes really fast and it's totally not my taste |
| 15:38.49 | mikma | tharper: poop |
| 15:38.54 | tharper | hi |
| 15:39.25 | mikma | i was ordered to ask you two to come and visit us at summer |
| 15:39.50 | karl_w_w | see http://oi49.tinypic.com/a4pl5c.jpg much better! |
| 15:43.35 | karl_w_w | I've digitally remastered the TNG title card |
| 15:45.04 | VIad | they can legally release the same series again only with a new boxset and add the words "digitally remastered" to the cover |
| 15:45.06 | VIad | $$$ |
| 15:45.26 | mikma | tharper: trying to type your name with touchscreen usually results tharåer |
| 15:45.37 | tharper | LOL |
| 15:45.42 | tharper | should that be my name, then? |
| 15:45.47 | mikma | noooooooo |
| 15:46.03 | tharper | also what is å doingon your keyboard? =p |
| 15:46.03 | karl_w_w | what does it mean? |
| 15:46.08 | tharper | haha nothing |
| 15:46.23 | mikma | tharper: ummmmm... öäå |
| 15:46.35 | tharper | finnish hasn't got å though |
| 15:46.49 | mikma | tharper those are part of finnish layout |
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| 15:46.54 | tharper | hahah |
| 15:46.59 | tharper | so you can type Swedish more easily ;0 |
| 15:47.00 | tharper | ;) |
| 15:47.06 | mikma | yeap |
| 15:47.14 | mikma | like,lålålålålåååå |
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| 15:48.40 | mikma | tharper: did ya like the "va?" i linked in fb |
| 15:48.53 | tharper | haven't seen it yet |
| 15:48.58 | tharper | have shitty internet now |
| 15:49.02 | tharper | hard to load videos and images =p |
| 15:49.03 | mikma | oh :( |
| 15:49.43 | mikma | imma gonna use "va?" on your when you ask me something from now on |
| 15:50.54 | mikma | tharper: anywho. make time to i |
| 15:51.02 | mikma | grrrr |
| 15:51.02 | karl_w_w | I would use foreign words in here, but palla |
| 15:51.07 | mikma | touchscreen |
| 15:51.16 | zenzelezz | on his what? |
| 15:51.21 | tharper | palla? |
| 15:51.34 | mikma | tharper: to visit us at the summer. |
| 15:52.15 | karl_w_w | exactly, tharper |
| 15:52.49 | tharper | ? |
| 15:52.54 | tharper | does not understand your point. |
| 15:53.38 | mikma | meanwhile in sweden |
| 15:54.02 | mikma | titta! titta! kalle, kalle, kalle |
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| 17:06.41 | foxlit | znf: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info9094-OPie.html#comments << a slightly more long-form response. |
| 17:24.54 | Mr_Rabies | i really dislike that champions of the thunder king quest :< |
| 17:25.10 | Mr_Rabies | i've been trying to get it done for 2 days now to no avail so far |
| 17:27.09 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:27.14 | Mr_Rabies | have been |
| 17:27.19 | Mr_Rabies | did for like, 3 hours yesterday |
| 17:27.44 | foxlit | Should be trivial to get DPS for it, at least. |
| 17:27.45 | Mr_Rabies | no one's on thunder isle anymore after tuesday it seems |
| 17:27.59 | Semlar | Mr_Rabies is actually the only person on his server |
| 17:28.05 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:28.18 | Mr_Rabies | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:28.20 | Mr_Rabies | so i dunno |
| 17:29.13 | foxlit | could also try waving the achievement at people |
| 17:30.45 | smcn | need a good group for some of those though, wiped twice on the ancient mogu guardian, gonna go as tank sometime this weekend for the hard ones |
| 17:30.47 | Mr_Rabies | wonder if anyone's doing the achievement on openraid |
| 17:31.18 | Mr_Rabies | i really, really can't wait for crossrealm -everything- |
| 17:31.39 | foxlit | smcn: "good" might be a bit of an overstatement -- you just need a semi-competent tank/healer. |
| 17:31.44 | smcn | yeah |
| 17:31.52 | smcn | i was healer pretty sure tank wasn't up tot he task |
| 17:32.03 | smcn | dragging boss over tiles is hard |
| 17:32.12 | kd3 | the ancient mogu guardian is by far the most difficult of the ones that are up |
| 17:32.12 | Mr_Rabies | the $25 per character transfer fee is wholly unacceptable to me and my realm isn't in great shape |
| 17:32.20 | kd3 | the rest don't require anywhere near as much awareness |
| 17:32.27 | smcn | kd3 that's good to hear |
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| 17:48.02 | Semlar | even on the worst servers i've ever played on there was at least one guild of competent players |
| 17:50.08 | smcn | idk on us-silvermoon the first heroic shek'zeer was just a couple weeks before 5.2 |
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| 18:12.43 | Maldivia | Adys: ready? |
| 18:12.49 | Adys | Maldivia: for? |
| 18:12.58 | Maldivia | Adys: doctor who, in an hour |
| 18:12.59 | Adys | oh |
| 18:13.13 | Adys | i'll get an email after it :P |
| 18:13.31 | Adys | Maldivia: but wasnt there a DW episode somewhat recently? (a special) |
| 18:13.33 | Adys | or is this the one |
| 18:15.06 | Maldivia | the last special was the christmas special |
| 18:15.32 | Maldivia | there has been a 1-minute snippets on the web this past week leading up to tonights episode |
| 18:24.19 | Arrowmaster | Doctor Who, Game of Thrones, and i get to play Bioshock Infinite this weekend????? |
| 18:24.21 | Arrowmaster | holy shit |
| 18:24.25 | Stanzilla | someone fix my internet, can't stand this any longer :< |
| 18:25.01 | Shirik | did you try downloading more ram? |
| 18:25.07 | Stanzilla | nope |
| 18:25.11 | Shirik | http://www.downloadmoreram.com/ |
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| 18:26.01 | Stanzilla | I can't open websits! |
| 18:26.02 | Stanzilla | *e |
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| 18:26.33 | Maldivia | Arrowmaster: not enough time |
| 18:38.39 | Semlar | to the tardis! |
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| 18:46.44 | znf | Stanzilla, try a proxy? |
| 18:49.24 | Stanzilla | znf: the whole connection is fucked |
| 18:51.22 | znf | well, I see you online! |
| 18:53.15 | Shirik | so Thunder_Child I decided to take a look at tribunal |
| 18:53.21 | Stanzilla | yeah with 800ms |
| 18:53.21 | Shirik | these people are hilarious |
| 18:53.30 | Stanzilla | and everything timing out all the time |
| 18:58.02 | p3lim | Is it possible to change the draw layer/frame strata of a backdrop? |
| 18:58.49 | Semlar | it is if you put it on its own frame |
| 19:00.05 | Fisker | hey Stanzilla |
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| 19:01.17 | Stanzilla | hi |
| 19:02.29 | Semlar | p3lim: i think you might be able to access it through frame:GetRegions |
| 19:02.48 | p3lim | Couldn't do anything with :GetBackdrop() and using the methods there |
| 19:02.54 | p3lim | I'll try regions |
| 19:03.24 | Semlar | i get like 9 regions doing that |
| 19:05.18 | Semlar | all of them are textures |
| 19:05.57 | Semlar | first one is the background and the other 8 are the border |
| 19:06.47 | Semlar | assuming the thing has no regions other than the backdrop |
| 19:11.57 | Stanzilla | what's the daily cd of leatherworkers? not the hide |
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| 19:32.24 | Semlar | p3lim: for the button strata, try not to make it any higher than the roll frame is |
| 19:32.57 | p3lim | It's parented to it already, so it shouldn't be needed really |
| 19:33.06 | p3lim | Unless stuff like grid is above it already |
| 19:33.33 | Semlar | i think if anything shows up over the roll frame it should also show up over the handle anyway |
| 19:33.41 | p3lim | Fixed most of the bugs though, only two things left to do before pushing new version |
| 19:33.51 | p3lim | Strata and spec buttons |
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| 19:55.02 | Adys | Things not to do on Linux: |
| 19:55.04 | Adys | #1: sudo rm -rf --no-preserve-root / |
| 19:55.07 | Adys | #2: echo 2 > /proc/sys/vm/overcommit_memory |
| 20:10.55 | Maldivia | Adys: hmm, what about: dd if=/dev/random of=/dev/sda bs=4k |
| 20:11.07 | Adys | i dont know what that does |
| 20:11.09 | Adys | let me run it |
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| 20:13.38 | Adys | Maldivia: WHAT DID YOU MAKE ME DO |
| 20:16.00 | Maldivia | yell, apparently |
| 20:16.15 | bluspacecow | ha ha |
| 20:16.26 | bluspacecow | y u run some random command someone links u? |
| 20:16.35 | nevcairiel | thats a fun command to run, too |
| 20:16.37 | kd3 | it's a great way to see how vms handle disaster? |
| 20:16.58 | bluspacecow | :( |
| 20:17.02 | nevcairiel | disaster? well, if it snapshots your hdd, its fine :p |
| 20:17.17 | bluspacecow | my dr who torrents gone from 275 k/s down to 60 k/s again |
| 20:17.33 | nevcairiel | my favorite torrent place doesnt have 720p yet |
| 20:18.02 | bluspacecow | i'm fine with normal quality myself. |
| 20:18.14 | Maldivia | nev: they're slow then |
| 20:18.33 | nevcairiel | maybe, but downloads at least are at full speed =p |
| 20:18.48 | bluspacecow | there's links all over the internet but all require to register or pay to get a decent speed. at least with torrrents your not limited to a guest account speed. |
| 20:19.04 | Maldivia | nev: but fi you have to wait an hour to download something that from other means takes 10 minutes.. |
| 20:19.06 | nevcairiel | apparently you are |
| 20:19.57 | nevcairiel | Maldivia: besides doctor who i only get US shows, and i'm usually not awake when they get published, so big fucking deal :P |
| 20:20.16 | bluspacecow | hmmm |
| 20:20.19 | Maldivia | heh |
| 20:20.25 | nevcairiel | anyhow it showed up now |
| 20:20.30 | Maldivia | nev: but right now you are complaining that it's not there yet |
| 20:20.32 | bluspacecow | are you in EU or US nevcairiel ? I never remember |
| 20:20.33 | nevcairiel | 1 minute and i have it |
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| 20:20.38 | bluspacecow | i do know fisker's Swedish |
| 20:20.46 | nevcairiel | i didnt actually complain |
| 20:20.58 | nevcairiel | was more of a statement |
| 20:21.02 | Maldivia | nev you have 150Mbit? |
| 20:21.04 | bluspacecow | observation ? |
| 20:21.47 | nevcairiel | it may take 3 minutes, usually feels like 1 |
| 20:21.54 | Maldivia | .) |
| 20:22.09 | bluspacecow | hmmm |
| 20:22.12 | bluspacecow | interesting |
| 20:22.30 | bluspacecow | uk itunes store has the battle of demons run two days later short |
| 20:22.40 | bluspacecow | for free |
| 20:23.17 | Fisker | cease and desist bluspacecow |
| 20:23.27 | bluspacecow | silly svedish man |
| 20:23.27 | nevcairiel | and bluspacecow, i'm EU |
| 20:24.16 | nevcairiel | .. and DW is done |
| 20:24.20 | nevcairiel | goes watch |
| 20:24.45 | Maldivia | and speaking of DW... David Tennant is confirmed for 50th anniversary special episode! |
| 20:25.08 | Maldivia | (and Billie Piper as well) |
| 20:25.15 | nevcairiel | that sounds great |
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| 20:30.26 | Maldivia | they changed the theme music... |
| 20:30.29 | Semlar | how concerned should i be that two of my ram modules have managed to unseat themselves from the motherboard |
| 20:30.41 | nevcairiel | very |
| 20:30.49 | nevcairiel | they are trying to flee |
| 20:31.09 | Semlar | i locked them back into place but that seems like it shouldn't happen |
| 20:31.26 | nevcairiel | thats because you're looking at too much dirt on the internet |
| 20:31.29 | nevcairiel | your ram just cant take it |
| 20:31.41 | Semlar | i think my motherboard may be haunted |
| 20:36.47 | znf | Semlar, stop playing football with the case :-/ |
| 20:36.55 | Semlar | you can't make me |
| 20:37.17 | Semlar | i need a new computer |
| 20:37.21 | Semlar | or possibly an exorcist |
| 20:37.38 | bluspacecow | https://itunes.apple.com/gb/tv-season/battle-demons-run-two-days/id622544505?i=623283116 |
| 20:39.04 | nevcairiel | is it just me, or is the 720p DW slightly out of sync for anyone else? |
| 20:39.08 | foxlit | let's play Guess the Spec |
| 20:39.23 | Semlar | dps |
| 20:39.31 | foxlit | 1 1 3 1 4 1 4 1 4 1 4 1 4 1 4 5 1 3 1 4 1 4 1 4 1 4 1 4 5 ... |
| 20:39.37 | Maldivia | nev: working fine for me |
| 20:39.55 | Semlar | arcane mage |
| 20:41.20 | foxlit | Semlar: no. Besides, aren't missiles random? |
| 20:42.01 | Semlar | feral bear |
| 20:42.33 | foxlit | no. There's no reason to be spamming lacerate like that. |
| 20:42.59 | Semlar | it's actually just maul and swipe |
| 20:43.12 | Semlar | you're right that's too many buttons |
| 20:43.28 | foxlit | needs more thrash and mangle |
| 20:43.37 | foxlit | and savage defense. and lacerate. |
| 20:43.37 | Semlar | no no thrash is just macroed into swipe |
| 20:43.44 | Semlar | also macroed into swipe |
| 20:43.47 | foxlit | the cooldowns are weird |
| 20:44.13 | foxlit | so you probably can't macro those together reasonably. |
| 20:44.26 | Semlar | i'll make it work |
| 20:45.15 | foxlit | but let's say that there are no macros involved, and no gaps between the abilities besides the GCD. |
| 20:45.53 | Semlar | i don't know what any classes do any more |
| 20:46.21 | Semlar | except my hunter |
| 20:47.32 | foxlit | mistweavers. |
| 20:47.33 | Semlar | cobra shot cobra shot explosive shot cobra shot arcane shot |
| 20:49.43 | foxlit | jab palm jab palm jab palm jab palm jab palm surging mist jab kick repeat until 15% mana, tea. |
| 20:50.17 | Semlar | i actually just hit multishot over and over |
| 20:51.27 | foxlit | at least with that energy-cost-reducing proc |
| 20:55.19 | Mr_Rabies | shadow blade shadow blade shadow blade |
| 20:55.22 | Mr_Rabies | soul fist |
| 20:55.38 | Mr_Rabies | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdNSG6Boxkk |
| 20:57.49 | Semlar | http://www.livestream.com/newchannel/popoutplayer?channel=spartie |
| 20:58.38 | kd3 | bah. horde favoritism... brawlgar arena's got a farsight totem that lets you watch the combat from the middle of the arena, but I can't find anything comprable at bizmo's brawlpub |
| 20:59.28 | Semlar | dr who |
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| 21:44.49 | Eridius | woohoo 2 90's now... and they're both monks |
| 21:45.19 | bluspacecow | lol only 2 |
| 21:45.23 | bluspacecow | ? |
| 21:45.30 | Eridius | meh I have 8 85's |
| 21:50.38 | p3lim | Semlar: Everything should be fixed now |
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| 21:51.14 | Semlar | >_> |
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| 22:07.15 | Semlar|Laptop | did they really hardcode the difficulty indexes for the encounter journal |
| 22:07.52 | Semlar|Laptop | couldn't just use the same numbers that the api functions return |
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| 22:22.03 | Semlar|Laptop_ | oh i see, p3lim they changed the return values for the api function i was using after i wrote it |
| 22:22.28 | p3lim | which one? |
| 22:22.35 | Semlar|Laptop | GetInstanceInfo |
| 22:22.55 | Semlar|Laptop | used to return the right values for the difficulty |
| 22:23.10 | p3lim | Yeah, I found out I had to substract 2 |
| 22:23.16 | Semlar|Laptop | only for raids |
| 22:24.11 | Semlar|Laptop | you may need to change it for your addon even though i know you aren't supporting dungeon bosses |
| 22:24.33 | Semlar|Laptop | because the outdoor bosses are just in zones and i don't think it's going to have the right return value |
| 22:25.29 | Semlar|Laptop | it might, i haven't checked that number a normal zone returns for the raid difficulty |
| 22:28.36 | p3lim | Pretty sure its 1 for outdoor bosses |
| 22:28.41 | p3lim | So that's why its the fallback value |
| 22:28.53 | p3lim | Not sure if it works 100% though, needs testing |
| 22:28.54 | Semlar|Laptop | actually, is the function you're using returning the difficulty you have the raid set to in the menu or for the zone you're in |
| 22:29.07 | p3lim | Zone I'd guess |
| 22:29.09 | p3lim | Not sure |
| 22:29.22 | Semlar|Laptop | i know GetInstanceInfo is the zone but i don't know about the ID functions |
| 22:30.39 | p3lim | EJ uses GetInstanceInfo |
| 22:30.46 | p3lim | https://github.com/tekkub/wow-ui-source/blob/live/AddOns/Blizzard_EncounterJournal/Blizzard_EncounterJournal.lua#L137 |
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| 22:33.09 | Semlar|Laptop | GetRaidDifficultyID isn't even on wowprogramming |
| 22:34.19 | Semlar|Laptop | but it returns the same value as GetInstanceInfo for raids |
| 22:34.44 | p3lim | Yup |
| 22:34.51 | Semlar|Laptop | ah but wowpedia says it returns the player's currently selected raid difficulty |
| 22:34.53 | Semlar|Laptop | which is not what you want |
| 22:34.56 | p3lim | And afaik, there is no bonus roll in dungeons so I have no need to support it |
| 22:35.20 | Semlar|Laptop | you want to get the value for the zone |
| 22:35.39 | p3lim | As I said, default to 1 which is what the outdoor bosses use |
| 22:36.02 | Semlar|Laptop | it won't work |
| 22:36.13 | Semlar|Laptop | because GetRaidDifficultyID is going to return a value |
| 22:36.29 | Semlar|Laptop | it's going to return what the player has selected |
| 22:36.37 | Semlar|Laptop | so it won't fall back on 1 |
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| 22:38.11 | Semlar|Laptop | right? |
| 22:38.26 | p3lim | I don't know tbh, I haven't tested |
| 22:39.06 | Semlar|Laptop | well, if it returns what the player has selected in the menu it means if they have their raid set to heroic 25 man and they're fighting an outdoor boss it's still going to take the value for heroic 25 man and subtract 2 |
| 22:39.10 | p3lim | A theory might be that the outdoor bosses show the same loot no matter what difficulty is set |
| 22:39.20 | p3lim | Since I don't see any code around it in EJ |
| 22:39.52 | Semlar|Laptop | just use the return value for the difficulty from GetInstanceInfo and subtract 2 if the player is in a raid or leave it alone if they aren't |
| 22:39.59 | p3lim | Yeah |
| 22:40.11 | Semlar|Laptop | that should be the right value |
| 22:40.22 | p3lim | Does the difficulty return nil or 0 when it's not set? |
| 22:40.36 | Semlar|Laptop | outside of an instance should return 1 |
| 22:40.43 | p3lim | Alright |
| 22:40.57 | p3lim | Returns 0 outside |
| 22:41.21 | p3lim | so (difficulty > 0 and difficulty or 1) |
| 22:41.37 | Semlar|Laptop | yeah just make sure it's at least 1 |
| 22:42.10 | p3lim | Sure |
| 22:42.24 | Semlar|Laptop | although i'm not entirely sure it does return 0 outside, i need to check that later |
| 22:42.34 | p3lim | Just tested |
| 22:42.44 | Semlar|Laptop | hm |
| 22:42.51 | Semlar|Laptop | i could have sworn it returned 1 in org |
| 22:43.15 | Semlar|Laptop | i'm probably misremembering |
| 22:43.21 | p3lim | Or it changed |
| 22:46.33 | Semlar|Laptop | i do know there were several different api functions for getting the difficulty and they all returned different values for the same difficulties |
| 22:46.50 | Semlar|Laptop | i think they eliminated some of them |
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| 22:49.11 | Mr_Rabies | i really hate that there's no ldb replacement for the giant difficulty minimap doodad yet |
| 22:50.23 | Eridius | giant difficulty minimap doodad? |
| 22:50.42 | Semlar|Laptop | probably the flag in the corner |
| 22:50.52 | Mr_Rabies | yeah |
| 22:51.11 | Semlar|Laptop | i had to move it for my minimap addon |
| 22:51.15 | Mr_Rabies | i've got mine hidden because it's so huge, so i always end up asking when we're raiding to make sure we're on the right difficulty |
| 22:51.30 | Eridius | I don't know about LDB but TitanPanel's Loot Type plugin can show you that info in a dropdown |
| 22:51.34 | Mr_Rabies | i wish chinchilla let me autohide it until mouseover, but i can't for some reason |
| 22:53.02 | Semlar|Laptop | it wouldn't be that hard to do |
| 22:53.20 | Mr_Rabies | chinchilla supports autohiding some frames, but not others |
| 22:53.30 | Mr_Rabies | like, you could autohide the lfg eye button until the most recent update |
| 22:53.32 | Semlar|Laptop | you could hook the onenter script |
| 22:53.56 | Semlar|Laptop | or maybe you could go into chinchilla's code and see where they define what frames you can hide |
| 22:54.35 | Mr_Rabies | if i had any clue what i was doing, i'm sure i could :p |
| 22:54.45 | bleeter | Mr_Rabies: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ilMx7k7mso |
| 22:54.45 | Mr_Rabies | there's probably a reason certain ones aren't autohidable though |
| 22:55.18 | Semlar|Laptop | there's nothing about the difficulty frame that you wouldn't be able to do it with |
| 22:56.03 | Semlar|Laptop | it doesn't have to be secure or anything |
| 22:56.14 | Mr_Rabies | i'm gonna see what sexymap offers, perhaps |
| 22:56.53 | Mr_Rabies | bleeter: i really wish they'd have mentioned the "punching holes in drywall" fetish that comcast has |
| 22:56.59 | Semlar|Laptop | what would be a better way to display it |
| 22:57.11 | Semlar|Laptop | or do you just want a tiny number in the corner |
| 22:57.28 | Mr_Rabies | honestly, an ldb thing would be best for me, personally |
| 22:57.37 | Mr_Rabies | i've moved all my minimap buttons off to chocolatebar |
| 22:57.50 | Mr_Rabies | i don't like them |
| 22:58.46 | Semlar|Laptop | you don't have anything on your minimap? |
| 22:59.07 | Mr_Rabies | nope |
| 22:59.09 | Semlar|Laptop | http://i.imgur.com/nYXe5uE.jpg this is what mine looks like right now |
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| 23:01.54 | Semlar|Laptop | but i still have the mail icon, the lfg eye and the difficulty banner on it |
| 23:04.19 | Mr_Rabies | http://i.imgur.com/WTyszuT.jpg is what mine looks like |
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| 23:05.17 | Mr_Rabies | the closest thing to a minimap button i have is the quest watcher button |
| 23:06.28 | bleeter | Mr_Rabies: I think the drywall thing is implicit it in the 'oligobble down our balls' statement |
| 23:12.30 | Arrowmaster | just got the 3rd and 4th weapons in bioshock infinite, why do devs have to ruin something good by limiting to only two guns held at a time |
| 23:12.55 | Arrowmaster | still a good game but damn i wish it was like the original with carrying all guns |
| 23:13.01 | Eridius | having all the weapons would be a bit overpowered |
| 23:13.08 | Eridius | especially on hard, because you wouldn't have to worry about ammoa nymore |
| 23:15.45 | Arrowmaster | but now im never going to use the shutgun EVER |
| 23:16.02 | Arrowmaster | why would i use one of my two slots on something with so little ammo |
| 23:16.54 | Mr_Rabies | i guess that depends on the genre |
| 23:17.05 | Mr_Rabies | is it a survival horror game or an fps? |
| 23:17.24 | Mr_Rabies | if it's a surivival horror game then it makes sense to limit ammo/weaponry |
| 23:17.28 | Mr_Rabies | if it's an fps, then not really |
| 23:22.04 | Mr_Rabies | hmmm |
| 23:25.24 | Eridius | shotgun is pretty effective |
| 23:26.03 | p3lim | close range sure |
| 23:26.12 | smcn | yeah shotgun is great |
| 23:26.17 | Eridius | especially against the raven guy |
| 23:26.22 | p3lim | I used the carbine as my main weapon throughout the game |
| 23:26.26 | Eridius | smack him with a bull whatever it's called, and shotgun away |
| 23:26.38 | smcn | not too far in and only playing normal but shotgun + raven vigor is fun |
| 23:26.51 | p3lim | And forcing elizabeth to constantly feed me ammo |
| 23:26.57 | smcn | you can gib multiple dudes at once with shotgun too |
| 23:27.15 | Kalroth | raven and shock is all you need |
| 23:27.32 | Kalroth | how do you force her though, she always complains for me |
| 23:27.33 | Eridius | I never use raven vigor. never seemed very effective |
| 23:27.38 | p3lim | lust vs patriots ftw |
| 23:27.56 | Kalroth | raven with traps on death is super effective |
| 23:28.00 | Kalroth | silly good vigor |
| 23:28.11 | Eridius | "traps on death"? |
| 23:28.19 | p3lim | upgrade from the vendor |
| 23:28.22 | Eridius | ah |
| 23:28.31 | Kalroth | when you kill mobs being attacked by ravens, they generate a new trap |
| 23:28.56 | p3lim | oh and the handyman, fuck how much I hate him on hard |
| 23:29.00 | Kalroth | haha |
| 23:29.05 | Kalroth | just shoot the heart! |
| 23:29.17 | p3lim | I go through two weapons on hard to down him |
| 23:29.19 | p3lim | ++ |
| 23:29.28 | Kalroth | you know raven works on him |
| 23:29.31 | Mr_Rabies | moveanything doesn't seem to let me hide frames by name anymore :< |
| 23:29.34 | p3lim | I know |
| 23:52.23 | VIad | hi Kalroth |
| 23:52.32 | Kalroth | hejsa |
| 23:53.39 | VIad | :D |
| 23:53.44 | VIad | nice try |
| 23:55.49 | VIad | eclipse is a neat IDE |
