| 00:05.49 | VIad | the new tomb raider game was perfect |
| 00:06.03 | AckisWork | too much dlc VIad |
| 00:06.39 | VIad | I really enjoyed the story, the prequel "lore", the design and open world exploration, e.g. |
| 00:06.53 | VIad | not pure sandbox but not pure story either, was a nice mix |
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| 00:17.33 | VIad | I give tomb raider a 10/10 :P |
| 00:20.42 | Primer | looks up said game... |
| 00:20.54 | Primer | For me to give it a 10/10, it better have a nudify mode |
| 00:21.15 | VIad | hehe, scores vary depending what you are looking for in a game :P |
| 00:21.31 | VIad | I really enjoyed the gameplay and the story kept me going all day from start to end |
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| 00:34.08 | Primer | I just watched the video for it |
| 00:34.16 | Primer | She's pretty hot |
| 00:34.41 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:36.26 | kd3 | hah |
| 00:38.30 | Primer | VIad: how long was the game? |
| 00:38.50 | VIad | around 12 hours straight to finish the story |
| 00:38.55 | Primer | So...not that long |
| 00:38.57 | VIad | but 30% remain for exploration |
| 00:39.15 | VIad | an I enjoy exploration, puzzles, e.g. :P |
| 00:43.26 | Primer | The graphics are nice |
| 00:43.36 | VIad | they are too |
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| 00:45.38 | airtonix_ | shiny lights are important |
| 00:46.07 | VIad | funny fact, if you turn on the ultra details on the hair rendering it renders hairstraws and it costs you like 20 fps :D |
| 00:46.26 | VIad | so I use the only other option; normal where the hair doesn't look fabulous but the game runs smooth :P |
| 00:47.23 | airtonix_ | you can't upgrade your video card? |
| 00:47.41 | VIad | try it yourself before complaining about outdated graphic card ;p |
| 00:50.10 | airtonix_ | can't upgrade the video card on my Apple Watch |
| 00:50.16 | VIad | :( |
| 00:52.01 | Primer | So you didn't play this on a console? |
| 00:52.05 | VIad | pc |
| 00:52.24 | Primer | I've actually been wanting a game I can veg out on the PS3 |
| 00:52.55 | Eridius | I agree with VIad, the new tomb raider is fantastic |
| 00:53.06 | VIad | brohoof |
| 00:53.09 | Eridius | although I too could not turn on "TressFX" without killing my framerate |
| 00:53.14 | Eridius | *brohoof* |
| 00:53.46 | VIad | had average fps around 40 with the hair effect tough, while without it was constant like 60 or something (think my cap is that due to screen refreshrate is 60Hz) |
| 00:53.54 | VIad | not a game breaker tbh :P |
| 00:53.56 | Eridius | 40 with? damn. I need a new gfx card |
| 00:54.02 | Eridius | I had something like 15 with |
| 00:54.17 | VIad | isn't the tressfx amd thing? maybe nvidia needs to do some performance tweaks or don't know |
| 00:54.19 | Primer | VIad: what system specs? |
| 00:54.26 | Eridius | I've got an ATI card |
| 00:54.43 | VIad | I got gtx680 with 4gb ram |
| 00:55.04 | Eridius | I wouldn't mind building a gaming PC, but I don't really have room to set up a second computer :/ |
| 00:55.17 | Primer | damn, only 4g? |
| 00:55.26 | VIad | only :P |
| 00:55.34 | Primer | My box has 16g |
| 00:55.40 | Primer | but only a gtx570 |
| 00:55.46 | VIad | I was talking about graphic card |
| 00:56.03 | Primer | well, I did ask for "system specs" |
| 00:56.06 | VIad | I assume it is what handles thehair effect anyway :P |
| 00:56.42 | VIad | gotta run my everest |
| 00:56.47 | Eridius | I think my machine has a ATI Radeon HD 5870 (can't check right now) |
| 00:57.08 | Eridius | which only has 1GB vram |
| 01:00.23 | Primer | So I'm using a squid proxy now to watch youtube videos. This proxy is in New York while I'm in LA. Videos loading extremely quickly. Seems Youtube's LA caches really really suck |
| 01:00.24 | VIad | btw seems like the hair graphic thingy is only for pc, consoles don't use that :P |
| 01:00.43 | Primer | VIad: duh? |
| 01:00.48 | VIad | fun fact Primer, lots of video sites in US are blocked in Norway :D |
| 01:00.55 | VIad | can't watch daily show episodes, only the clips |
| 01:01.01 | VIad | hulu is totally blocked |
| 01:01.02 | VIad | pandora, e.g. |
| 01:01.04 | Primer | Get a proxy! |
| 01:01.06 | VIad | nah |
| 01:01.19 | VIad | gonna be slow - but, why do they do it? |
| 01:01.25 | Primer | $$ |
| 01:01.32 | VIad | but how do they make it free for US viewers? |
| 01:01.44 | Primer | $$ |
| 01:01.50 | VIad | considering US viewers are many millions more people than Norwegians :P |
| 01:02.08 | Eridius | VIad: they're blocking norwegians presumably because of limited distribution rights or some nonsense |
| 01:02.11 | VIad | allowing a million people in Norway to enjoy Hulu wouldn't trash their economy |
| 01:02.13 | Eridius | not because they're trying to bilk norwegians out of money |
| 01:02.27 | VIad | I can't even pay for Hulu even if I want to |
| 01:02.31 | VIad | just saying |
| 01:02.42 | Eridius | right, because the networks that have shows on hulu don't have distribution rights for those shows in norway |
| 01:02.54 | VIad | why stops them? :P |
| 01:03.00 | Eridius | same reason us amurricans can't stream from the BBC Online |
| 01:03.02 | VIad | "don't have distribution rights" |
| 01:03.16 | Ackis | interesting addon idea: http://i.imgur.com/sFruLuX.jpg |
| 01:03.19 | VIad | if I stream a channel that you can connect to from US do I break the law? |
| 01:03.25 | Ackis | http://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/1b79zj/addon_idea_after_you_killed_a_boss_you_will_see_a/ |
| 01:03.40 | Eridius | VIad: depends on what you're streaming. If you're streaming a TV show to me, you're violating copyright law |
| 01:03.41 | VIad | Ackis: Semlar worked on this a while ago |
| 01:03.51 | Ackis | did it work? |
| 01:04.07 | VIad | Eridius: what if I have paid for a licence where up to 10 people can watch the shows on said channel |
| 01:04.26 | VIad | does it mater if you visit my home and watch my TV or get to see it trough a stream from US? |
| 01:04.32 | Semlar | yeah it worked |
| 01:04.42 | Semlar | i just never released it |
| 01:04.44 | Eridius | VIad: if you have distribution rights for the show in question, then you can distribute it. If you don't have distribution rights, you can't |
| 01:05.31 | VIad | Eridius: for instance soccer, if you have a big room with a TV and you show soccer games you need a licence to view said channel, depends on how many people can view it at any time |
| 01:05.42 | VIad | so say you buy a lisence to show this channel up to 50 people :P |
| 01:05.53 | VIad | can't I stream it to 50 people in the US and it would be legal? |
| 01:06.08 | VIad | only difference is you aren't in my house watching it on my TV, instead you watch it from US and the TV is turned off |
| 01:06.13 | Eridius | VIad: what do you mean, buy a license to show the channel for up to 50 people? A license from whom? |
| 01:06.20 | VIad | the supplies |
| 01:06.29 | VIad | for instance Canal Digital supplies TV channels |
| 01:06.34 | VIad | you can buy business licences and such |
| 01:06.41 | Primer | One day this will all be a thing of the past |
| 01:06.46 | Eridius | I guess it depends on what it says in the license |
| 01:06.55 | VIad | when its not private, you can buy a lisence that allows you to show that channel to a large group of people :) |
| 01:06.56 | Primer | No one will watch "TV" any more |
| 01:06.57 | Eridius | typically digital distribution is not the same thing as physical distribution, which is not the same thing as public performance |
| 01:07.13 | VIad | what if |
| 01:07.23 | Semlar | Ackis: http://i.imgur.com/wUCQHQA.jpg |
| 01:07.51 | Ackis | Semlar: you should release it |
| 01:08.00 | VIad | what if this lisence bullshit stops hindering development :P |
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| 01:08.47 | VIad | Semlar: you never released that addon |
| 01:08.56 | Primer | He wants it all for himself |
| 01:09.08 | Semlar | well, i got caught up in how to detect what boss you were actually fighting |
| 01:09.13 | VIad | also did you make it filter based on selected role? also in 5.3 you can select another role for rolling loot in LFR |
| 01:09.18 | VIad | yeah true |
| 01:09.24 | Eridius | Semlar: aren't there libraries for figuring that out? |
| 01:09.25 | VIad | the problem was figuring out what boss you defeated |
| 01:09.28 | Eridius | or at least, a library? |
| 01:09.34 | VIad | sure Eridius |
| 01:09.37 | Semlar | i didn't want to hard code it |
| 01:09.45 | Semlar | i came up with a few ways to do it without doing that |
| 01:09.52 | VIad | but imo blizzard should add a event that declares when a boss is defeated |
| 01:10.04 | VIad | get rid of a million lines of code to figure simple stuff out |
| 01:10.28 | VIad | glhf making an addon to figure out the status of a dungeon run (i.e. what bosses are defeated/alive) |
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| 01:10.39 | VIad | or the simple bool "is the dungeon completed" |
| 01:10.52 | VIad | I find the lack of API/events for this disturbing |
| 01:11.16 | Eridius | meh, blizz doesn't care about addons. |
| 01:12.31 | VIad | I know |
| 01:12.39 | VIad | sadly it's one major aspect keeping the game so popular too :P |
| 01:12.55 | Eridius | what do you mean? |
| 01:12.56 | VIad | I'd want them try disable all addons and see their subscriber numbers |
| 01:12.58 | Eridius | oh, addons are? |
| 01:13.00 | VIad | yes |
| 01:13.10 | Eridius | I thought you were saying not caring about addons was ;) |
| 01:13.22 | VIad | they don't care about addons no :P |
| 01:17.05 | Stanzilla | I guess VIad is drunk again |
| 01:17.09 | VIad | ofc |
| 01:17.13 | VIad | always drunk |
| 01:17.14 | foxlit | he's drunk by default. |
| 01:17.26 | VIad | drunk by default |
| 01:17.29 | VIad | should be a band name |
| 01:18.17 | VIad | gta sale on steam, just saying |
| 01:18.31 | VIad | just cause 2 also for just 3 euro :P |
| 01:19.49 | VIad | is it me or does chapelle have a nasal voice? :P |
| 01:20.32 | VIad | I guess I should go to bed and sleep this off :D |
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| 01:30.37 | bleeter | sounds like a dwarven RP guild, <Drunk by Default> |
| 01:43.53 | p3lim | What's the name of that bonus roll frame? |
| 01:56.00 | Semlar | i'm assuming it's inheriting from BonusRollFrameTemplate in lootframe.xml |
| 01:56.18 | p3lim | Having trouble showing a dummy of it :/ |
| 01:56.36 | Semlar | i can't figure out what actually inherits it though |
| 01:56.52 | Semlar | nope, just called BonusRollFrame |
| 01:57.13 | p3lim | Yeah, but since I had issues actually showing it I thought it might be the wrong one |
| 01:57.15 | p3lim | But meh |
| 01:59.11 | Arrowmaster | shit its already 10pm! where did my night go |
| 01:59.58 | Arrowmaster | damn you kerbal space program |
| 02:00.20 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:00.30 | Semlar | sort of does something |
| 02:01.09 | Semlar | i think it needs some properties set to actually display correctly |
| 02:02.03 | Semlar | you could try calling BonusRollFrame_StartBonusRoll(1, 'text', 10) and see what it does |
| 02:02.25 | Semlar | it just returns out of the function because i don't have any of the charms |
| 02:05.23 | Semlar | p3lim: http://i.imgur.com/BpGua7z.jpg |
| 02:05.32 | p3lim | hehe nice |
| 02:06.02 | p3lim | How did you get that one? |
| 02:06.10 | Semlar | GetCurrencyInfo = function() return 0, 10, 'interface/icons/inv_mushroom_11' end |
| 02:06.14 | Semlar | BonusRollFrame_StartBonusRoll(1, 'text', 10) |
| 02:06.15 | p3lim | ah |
| 02:07.06 | Semlar | i don't know what it does with these values but it does get it to display |
| 02:07.16 | p3lim | You going to make that addon btw? |
| 02:07.54 | Semlar | maybe |
| 02:07.57 | foxlit | http://wow.joystiq.com/2013/03/28/the-queue/ << "Why doesn't Blizzard allow for an in game client for developers to post their addons on?" |
| 02:08.09 | foxlit | the response is hilarious. |
| 02:08.19 | Semlar | i stripped down what i had to just output the loot to the chat when you killed a boss |
| 02:09.59 | p3lim | I guess getting the info about which encounter you finished is horrible |
| 02:10.06 | Semlar | yep! |
| 02:10.17 | foxlit | it's probably simpler in your case, p3lim |
| 02:10.23 | Semlar | horrible and not necessarily accurate |
| 02:10.24 | foxlit | bonus rolls have ids. |
| 02:10.32 | p3lim | Hm |
| 02:11.05 | Dagmar | I'd have settled it more readily by saying "How quickly would you like to see lua viruses running amok in WoW, dude?" |
| 02:11.33 | p3lim | foxlit: Where did you find that information? |
| 02:13.34 | foxlit | framexml, probably. |
| 02:13.59 | p3lim | Can't see anything related to encounterID |
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| 02:14.50 | foxlit | it's more akin to a spell id, iirc. |
| 02:15.34 | foxlit | http://www.wowpedia.org/API_AcceptSpellConfirmationPrompt |
| 02:16.23 | Simca | Huh. |
| 02:16.40 | p3lim | Hrm |
| 02:16.49 | foxlit | I would imagine that the IDs are distinct, though I don't think I've actually checked. |
| 02:16.52 | znf | How the hell am I supposed to get these pets? http://i.imgur.com/26DtcfN.png last one I need from this area and they're always in this position :-/ |
| 02:17.13 | Semlar | sentry totem |
| 02:18.21 | p3lim | I have no way to test that though, and google yields no result |
| 02:18.23 | Simca | go to the gate in Vale and go north into Kun lai. In the square around the gate on the kun lai side and on the road out from the gate, there are a lot of them |
| 02:18.27 | Simca | znf ^ |
| 02:19.13 | znf | Simca, you mean the golden gate? |
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| 02:19.27 | Simca | yes |
| 02:19.34 | znf | never seen them here :-/ |
| 02:19.59 | Simca | I might be thinking of the glowflies then |
| 02:20.07 | znf | ah, not the glowflies |
| 02:20.08 | znf | the moths |
| 02:20.17 | znf | Gilded Moth |
| 02:20.44 | Semlar | hit them with something that doesn't do any damage |
| 02:21.10 | Simca | doesn't help - can't battle in combat and can't battle when evading |
| 02:21.23 | p3lim | have a list of boss npc ids to encounterids > CLEU npc dies > GUID to npc id > success |
| 02:21.29 | Simca | you can sometimes fight them while they're in the air if you have a place to land nearby |
| 02:21.33 | p3lim | That is the cleanest way I could think of finding the encounter id |
| 02:21.46 | Semlar | that's almost what i did |
| 02:22.02 | znf | Semlar, they're not flying down :-/ |
| 02:22.03 | Semlar | except not with a prebuilt list if that's what you mean |
| 02:22.15 | p3lim | Using EJ's stuff? |
| 02:22.20 | Semlar | and i didn't bother detecting when they died |
| 02:22.40 | Simca | knowing the spell ids might be enough |
| 02:22.42 | Semlar | just when you left combat |
| 02:22.56 | Simca | the spells could be very obvious ones like "Boss X Bonus Loot Roll" |
| 02:23.11 | Semlar | i was going to add in a check to make sure you didn't leave combat because you wiped or something but i don't really care |
| 02:23.16 | p3lim | I don't know what the spell ids are since I can't test it atm |
| 02:23.46 | Simca | and blizzard always does things in batches - kill one boss then add +1 and -1 from the spellids to find all of that tier i'm sure |
| 02:24.07 | p3lim | If I had one spellID I would atleast know what to look for |
| 02:24.26 | p3lim | Anyone want to do one LFR boss and find out? :3 |
| 02:25.36 | znf | p3lim, what do you want to find out? |
| 02:26.15 | p3lim | The arguments passed with SPELL_CONFIRMATION_PROMPT |
| 02:26.29 | p3lim | When a boss that yields bonus roll loot dies |
| 02:26.42 | foxlit | http://www.wowhead.com/spell=139677 << maybe this. |
| 02:27.43 | Simca | yup |
| 02:27.45 | Simca | looks good |
| 02:27.45 | foxlit | similarly, http://www.wowhead.com/spell=139680 http://www.wowhead.com/spell=139662 |
| 02:28.17 | p3lim | All of them have the same effect |
| 02:28.55 | Simca | that's fine |
| 02:29.09 | Simca | wowhead doesn't decode effects right |
| 02:29.11 | foxlit | There's no particular reason to trust client-side datamining. |
| 02:29.13 | Simca | wowdb doesn't either |
| 02:29.33 | Simca | though it is slightly better at it |
| 02:29.51 | Semlar | http://www.wowhead.com/spell=139662 this is the aura |
| 02:30.33 | Semlar | not that it's very helpful |
| 02:30.38 | Simca | every Effect # and Aura # is part of a different category and they don't have them all mapped out |
| 02:31.09 | Simca | though they'd have to do it all by hand since I doubt you can get any of that from the in-game API |
| 02:31.52 | p3lim | I would still need to link them up to the encounterID |
| 02:32.00 | foxlit | giant lookup table time. |
| 02:32.12 | foxlit | well, not giant. Little lookup table time. |
| 02:32.29 | Simca | yeah this is one of the cases where wowdb does the parsing better - http://www.wowdb.com/spells/139680-tortos-bonus |
| 02:32.38 | Simca | all the bonuses are linked to the loot spellids on wowdb |
| 02:34.12 | p3lim | http://www.wowdb.com/spells?filter-icon=spell_magic_polymorphrabbit&filter-search=loot |
| 02:34.33 | p3lim | just based on the name and icon |
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| 02:36.58 | Simca | it's actually amusing they use that icon consistently |
| 02:38.01 | p3lim | Think I got it actually |
| 02:38.02 | p3lim | http://www.wowdb.com/spells?&filter-internal=1&filter-search=bonus |
| 02:38.07 | Arrowmaster | damnit kerbel space program stop crashing! |
| 02:38.58 | Simca | I imagine Internal Spell probably means "hidden from players when fired" |
| 02:40.35 | Iriel | Arrowmaster: do you mean "in game' or 'the game' ? |
| 02:42.43 | znf | lol - I just figured out that you can kill Nomi |
| 02:42.59 | znf | ...that little bitch deserves it for giving me stamina for for the last week. |
| 02:43.03 | Arrowmaster | the game |
| 02:49.06 | Shirik | "Dear Matthew, This letter is to inform you of the intention to raise the rent at the unit you are occupying" |
| 02:49.11 | Shirik | Just one more reason to buy a house I guess... |
| 02:50.53 | znf | intention? so it's not set in stone :P |
| 02:51.55 | Seerah | no, I'm sure it means "we intend to raise your rent for the next lease term" |
| 02:52.34 | Shirik | yeah they're basically warning me that in a few months if i want to stay I'm going to have to pay $50 more a month |
| 02:53.22 | znf | well, how much are you paying now? |
| 02:53.53 | Shirik | 850 |
| 02:54.00 | Shirik | it's a small place |
| 02:54.37 | znf | what the - shutdown in 15 |
| 02:55.53 | Ressy | ptr? |
| 02:56.35 | znf | no, EU |
| 03:10.23 | p3lim | Great, parsing data and.. server maintenance shutdown >_> |
| 03:10.29 | znf | is p3lim trying to do this? http://i.imgur.com/sFruLuX.jpg |
| 03:10.37 | p3lim | Correct |
| 03:12.21 | znf | Hmm. Didn't know you could actually craft a 502 weapon with those Lightning Steel ingots |
| 03:12.29 | znf | thought it stopped at 476 |
| 03:12.51 | p3lim | Just testing a way of getting the encounter info based on the roll window right now |
| 03:32.44 | Simca | you could just make a table and update it with each patch |
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| 04:10.31 | p3lim | That's what I'm doing |
| 04:10.45 | p3lim | As long as it works that is |
| 04:16.18 | p3lim | https://gist.github.com/p3lim/5268711 |
| 04:16.21 | p3lim | Something like that |
| 04:24.40 | Semlar | that's almost as long as my entire script |
| 04:27.16 | Semlar | i just used the boss names to keep track of whether you were in combat with them |
| 04:28.54 | Semlar | presumably the next roll belongs to whatever boss you were last engaged with |
| 04:32.16 | Semlar | i don't really know how bonus rolls work, i haven't done any level 90 raids |
| 04:36.19 | p3lim | Worked much with the EncounterJournal and/or it's API? |
| 04:38.36 | Semlar | yeah |
| 04:38.46 | Semlar | it sucks |
| 04:39.08 | p3lim | Do I have to load the addon to use the API? |
| 04:39.32 | Semlar | no |
| 04:40.27 | p3lim | I'm gonna use EJ_GetNumLoot(), and for that to yield the right items I have to set the difficulty, encounter and filter (I think) |
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| 04:41.34 | Semlar | i can give you my code if you want |
| 04:41.38 | p3lim | Sure |
| 04:42.42 | Semlar | http://pastebin.com/wftWuarX |
| 04:43.10 | Semlar | those are the main 2 functions that actually deal with the journal |
| 04:43.57 | Semlar | it probably looks pretty convoluted because of how i had to cache the stuff |
| 04:44.52 | p3lim | I'll take a look at it after I've finished my noodles, thanks :) |
| 04:45.41 | Semlar | if you just want the entire addon that outputs the loot table after you kill the thing i could upload that but i would have to change a few things |
| 04:46.17 | Semlar | and i'm sure you probably want to do it your own way |
| 04:47.24 | Semlar | i will say i had to unregister EJ_DIFFICULTY_UPDATE from EncounterJournal while i did my updates |
| 04:47.45 | Semlar | or it would just immediately revert back to whatever the encounter journal was set to |
| 04:48.58 | Semlar | UpdateLoot was called on EJ_LOOT_DATA_RECIEVED |
| 04:50.04 | Semlar | and UpdateBosses basically gets called on ZONE_CHANGED_NEW_AREA and PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD although that could probably be changed since there's some overlap |
| 04:51.54 | Semlar | well, you probably don't actually need the boss part if you're using your list of encounter ids and this is just for the rolls |
| 04:52.31 | Semlar | i needed to make a list of what bosses were in the instance so i could detect when you were fighting one |
| 04:54.30 | Semlar | CurrentInstance is EJ_GetCurrentInstance() and difficulty is the third return from GetInstanceInfo() |
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| 05:26.34 | p3lim | Yeah I'll have to update the table of items on EJ_LOOT_DATA_RECEIVED too |
| 05:27.22 | Semlar | yeah |
| 05:28.20 | p3lim | But I'm thinking about having animations form the frame smoothly so it should be updated within then |
| 05:28.37 | p3lim | Give it about 2 seconds to show |
| 05:29.01 | Semlar | there's no way to know the total number of items |
| 05:29.14 | Semlar | but you should have them all within a pretty short window |
| 05:29.23 | p3lim | Yeah, since I'm filtering by class and spec |
| 05:29.34 | p3lim | So tops like 6-7 items or so |
| 05:33.20 | Eridius | turns out Skada's "Damage taken by spell" ignores absorbs. I'm thinking of tweaking it to show absorbed damage as part of "damage taken". Does that sound reasonable to folks here? |
| 05:33.46 | Semlar | you didn't take it if it was absorbed |
| 05:33.56 | Eridius | Semlar: absorbs are like heals, just preemptive. |
| 05:34.05 | Eridius | if I absorbed it, vs taking it and having it healed, the end result is the same |
| 05:34.25 | Dridzt | it's not the same |
| 05:34.30 | Eridius | or to put it another way, absorbed damage reduces the absorbs available for other things. It's worth tracking |
| 05:34.38 | Semlar | it's not the same if you move would have killed you if it hadn't been absorbed |
| 05:35.02 | Eridius | so? "damage taken by spell" isn't useful for finding what did kill you |
| 05:35.19 | Eridius | it's useful for finding what spells you aren't avoiding |
| 05:35.22 | Dridzt | yes but you don't take the damage if it's absorbed |
| 05:35.24 | Eridius | e.g. rockfall on tortos |
| 05:35.32 | Eridius | Dridzt: but the absorb takes the damage |
| 05:35.38 | Eridius | it's identical to having temporary health |
| 05:35.46 | Dridzt | yes |
| 05:35.52 | Eridius | in fact, since health bars now show absorbs, it basically is temporary health |
| 05:35.55 | Dridzt | so why should it show under "damage taken" |
| 05:36.16 | Eridius | because it was taken. It was just absorbed instead of reducing my literal health |
| 05:36.17 | Dridzt | I agree, it was verbatim my argument on grid discussion |
| 05:36.32 | Eridius | but absorbing damage reduces the absorbs you have left |
| 05:36.36 | Eridius | unlike, say, resisted or DR'd damage |
| 05:36.40 | Semlar | our issue with including it in damage taken is it isn't damage taken, not that it couldn't be useful information |
| 05:36.58 | Eridius | Semlar: I agree, it would be nicer if I could show something like <taken > / <absorbed>, but skada isn't that flexible |
| 05:37.04 | p3lim | Isn't the first return from GetSpecializationInfoForClassID() the same as GetSpecialization() for the player? |
| 05:37.17 | Eridius | the uses to which the "Damage taken by spell" info is good for, would benefit from counting absorbs |
| 05:37.20 | Dridzt | I'm using the 'avoidance and mitigation' plugin for that functionality tbh |
| 05:37.27 | Semlar | p3lim: however i wrote it, it has to be done that way |
| 05:37.31 | Eridius | Dridzt: not familiar with that one |
| 05:37.35 | Dridzt | it makes more sense to have it separate to damage taken |
| 05:37.40 | p3lim | I'll have to check later |
| 05:37.49 | Eridius | Dridzt: I can't think of any good reason where I'd care about damage taken but expressly want to not count absorbs |
| 05:37.56 | Semlar | p3lim: i wrote it some months ago so i can't say exactly why i did it that way |
| 05:38.12 | Eridius | heck, healing includes absorbs |
| 05:38.26 | Eridius | so we're already counting absorbs the same as heals |
| 05:38.42 | Eridius | but if I count up all the damage taken on someone, vs all the healing they took, the healing is going to be > because the damage taken didn't include absorbs |
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| 05:39.14 | Eridius | here's an example of why I want this: last night one of our tanks complained about rockfalls around them. A guildie said "but you only took 300k from rockfall" |
| 05:39.27 | Eridius | he was almost last on rockfall damage taken according to Skada, but if you count absorbs he was probably close to 1st |
| 05:39.32 | Eridius | but we don't know, because we can't see it with absorbs |
| 05:40.31 | Dridzt | still there is a distinction between damage absorbed and damage taken, how will you distinguish between the 2? |
| 05:40.46 | Eridius | Dridzt: I'm saying I don't think there's any use in distinguishing, in the context of damage taken by spell |
| 05:41.19 | Dridzt | but taking your tank example there's sources of damage that's unavoidable |
| 05:41.42 | Eridius | so? rockfall is avoidable |
| 05:41.45 | Eridius | but we don't know how much he avoided |
| 05:41.55 | Dridzt | how are you going to gauge if you're (fx) doing good to be using absorb mechanic vs block? |
| 05:42.06 | Eridius | what do you mean? |
| 05:42.13 | Eridius | if I want to see how much I absorbed, I'll just check the healing meters |
| 05:43.40 | Dridzt | I can see your point, it's just from my PoV (using a plugin to get a mitigation breakdown) it feels like I'd lose definition |
| 05:43.48 | Dridzt | if it's lumped together :) |
| 05:43.59 | Dridzt | have to see it in action I guess |
| 05:44.07 | Eridius | hrm, my gf points out that Total Healing actually does show 2 numbers on the bar. I wonder if I can do the same |
| 05:44.15 | Eridius | although I actually would rather see total instead of <taken |
| 05:44.19 | Eridius | <taken> / <absorbed> |
| 05:45.36 | Eridius | yeah you'd lose some definition by lumping it together, but sometimes you can have too much detail |
| 05:45.37 | Eridius | and I think this would be one of those cases. It's a meaningless distinction in this context, and only serves to muddy the picture |
| 05:45.52 | Dridzt | in my perception no really |
| 05:46.07 | Dridzt | speaking as a tank I look at both after an encounter |
| 05:46.20 | Dridzt | damage taken to see how much I taxed the healers |
| 05:46.31 | Dridzt | then depending how it compares to my fellow tank |
| 05:46.38 | Eridius | look at healing taken if you want to see how you taxed the healers |
| 05:46.44 | Eridius | and you don't think absorbs tax the healers? It's still a spell they have to cast |
| 05:46.58 | Dridzt | avoidance and mitigation to see how I did smoothing damage |
| 05:47.26 | Dridzt | erm... I have absorbs myself |
| 05:47.41 | Eridius | sure, but not all the absorbs on you are yours |
| 05:47.44 | Dridzt | the plugin gives me a break down what part is disco bubble and what is barrier |
| 05:47.45 | Eridius | and not all tanks have absorbs |
| 05:48.04 | Eridius | if you're using this plugin to view the info, why do you even care about the "damage taken by spell" view? |
| 05:48.06 | Dridzt | well yes but you're getting a specific user/class feedback :P |
| 05:48.26 | Dridzt | I can't speak for the common denominator because there is none :D |
| 05:48.33 | Eridius | heh |
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| 05:51.42 | jane | Dridzt: as a healer i thank you for giving a shit ^^ |
| 05:51.57 | Dridzt | haha |
| 05:52.53 | Dridzt | btw as a recent 'convert' to Skada, is there a raid dps mode/bar? |
| 05:53.09 | Eridius | Dridzt: the modes show a summary on their bar in the mode selector |
| 05:53.13 | Eridius | you can find raid dps there |
| 05:53.24 | jane | it's configurable |
| 05:53.24 | Dridzt | aha, ty |
| 05:53.25 | Eridius | actually you can also turn on a Total bar in prefs |
| 05:53.28 | Eridius | I just don't have that |
| 05:53.46 | Dridzt | yea I'll look for it |
| 06:04.25 | Dridzt | o_O just noticed, there's a manual "start segment" command? \o/ |
| 06:04.49 | Dridzt | meaning I can get breakdowns for phases in fights? |
| 06:07.42 | Stanzilla | yes |
| 06:08.02 | Stanzilla | can even add that to bigwigs modules, Dridzt |
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| 07:07.15 | Corv | I have become convinced that dropdowns are the devil. |
| 07:07.22 | Corv | I will consort with their kind never again. |
| 07:07.48 | Semlar | can you resist their siren call? |
| 07:08.13 | Corv | Considering the taint issues, the pain of setting them up, and the shocking render times: I think so. |
| 07:19.12 | Eridius | someone should just write a dropdown replacement |
| 07:19.27 | Cairenn | Okay guys, apparently random question out of the blue for you all: Surge protected power bars, what one(s) do you trust? |
| 07:19.49 | Cairenn | s/trust/trust & suggest/ |
| 07:20.30 | Cairenn | I have nfi how old the ones I currently have and I'm planning on just replacing them all |
| 07:21.25 | Semlar | belkin makes a bunch of surge protectors |
| 07:21.35 | Semlar | they're probably reputable enough |
| 07:21.46 | Cairenn | I hear some people rave about Belkin, and others call them trash |
| 07:22.03 | Semlar | surge protectors aren't that complicated |
| 07:22.52 | Semlar | if one actually failed to do its job most of them have warranties for the equipment |
| 07:22.55 | Cairenn | I've been rearranging office space, along with everything else in the house, so in need of some new power bars, and figured I'd just replace all of them at once |
| 07:23.07 | Cairenn | *nod* |
| 07:24.35 | Semlar | is it like mission critical, because there's UPS devices and stuff you could use |
| 07:26.15 | Cairenn | Oh, I want to get UPS for the computers at some point, too, but for now I just want some reputable power strips and figured I'd see if any of you had any that you particularly swear by |
| 07:26.44 | Semlar | i don't have any recommendations |
| 07:27.08 | Semlar | the one i'm currently using is apparently made by IBM |
| 07:27.28 | Semlar | but i've never actually had a power strip fail on me |
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| 07:32.21 | Semlar | http://www.newegg.com/Surge-Suppressors/SubCategory/ID-535?cm_sp=PowerProt314-_-VisNav-_-SurgeSupp&Order=REVIEWS these are the popular ones on newegg |
| 07:33.06 | Cairenn | nod |
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| 07:38.45 | bluspacecow | https://twitter.com/joerumz/status/317361516737351681 |
| 07:38.49 | bluspacecow | interesting |
| 07:39.02 | bluspacecow | *transforms into small kitty and leaps into Cairenn's lap* |
| 07:39.10 | Cairenn | hugs bluspacecow |
| 07:39.22 | bluspacecow | PURRRRRRRR |
| 07:42.23 | bluspacecow | o_O |
| 07:42.24 | bluspacecow | http://venturebeat.com/2013/03/28/women-bring-down-the-house-at-the-gdc/ |
| 07:42.28 | bluspacecow | "Her daughter is the highest level (85) in World of Warcraft, and she is on her school’s honor roll" |
| 07:42.34 | bluspacecow | um level 90 is highest isn't it ? |
| 07:45.45 | Semlar | sounds like a slacker |
| 07:48.57 | pompy | "We are currently monitoring an issue that is affecting various regions of internet traffic. This has not been found to be an internal issue with our service, but may be affecting some of our players and their connections to the game. We’re currently talking to the parties involved to help resolve the issue" |
| 07:56.06 | Corv | Sounds like the Spamhaus fiasco. |
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| 08:53.27 | p3lim | Anyone mind testing this for me? /dump GetSpecializationInfoForClassID(select(3, UnitClass'player'), GetSpecialization()) |
| 08:53.41 | p3lim | vs just GetSpecialization() |
| 09:06.26 | karl_w_w | http://codepad.org/FTs4yCob p3lim |
| 09:06.41 | karl_w_w | line 8 is just GetSpecialization() |
| 09:06.42 | p3lim | Thanks |
| 09:14.28 | karl_w_w | holy shit how op is that fucking pet |
| 09:15.37 | karl_w_w | http://www.wowhead.com/npc=70452 |
| 09:16.00 | karl_w_w | the damage of primal cry seems to be bugged |
| 09:16.19 | karl_w_w | because it does the same damage as a normal single target attack in game |
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| 09:42.38 | p3lim | Btw Semlar, http://i.imgur.com/EhuqUit.png |
| 09:42.51 | Semlar | ^_^ |
| 09:43.08 | p3lim | Didn't go for the animations though, cba |
| 09:44.18 | Semlar | i had to sort out what all the ej functions did when i started that, bleh |
| 09:44.49 | bleeter | Cairenn: If you need something to get you in the mood for punching kittens this weekend, https://twitter.com/OriginalPSP/status/317305004706918400 |
| 09:44.53 | p3lim | I had most of it covered after reading the EJ files for about 40 minutes, your file just confirmed my expectations :p |
| 09:45.58 | Cairenn | bleeter: >< |
| 09:46.01 | Semlar | i also had to make it cache the items or the tooltip wouldn't work the first time you hovered over them |
| 09:46.15 | bleeter | Cairenn: inorite |
| 09:46.23 | p3lim | Yeah, using that event |
| 09:46.29 | p3lim | Which I already had sorted :p |
| 09:46.46 | p3lim | You were right about the spec part btw |
| 09:46.52 | Cairenn | Unfortunately, not a huge ... surprise isn't the right word, but yeah, whatever ... not a huge surprise |
| 09:47.17 | Cairenn | Things have gotten better in the last 10 years, but there's still a lot of the old mentality (no pun intended) |
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| 09:48.53 | bleeter | Cairenn: I think it may have got a bit more vicious because there's quite a few blokes now writing about what a bunch of fucksticks a number of the 'men' are |
| 09:49.01 | bleeter | *more vicious recently |
| 09:49.02 | Cairenn | and as we know: people + internet anonymity = asshole |
| 09:49.10 | bleeter | true |
| 09:54.28 | Cairenn | bleeter: lol |
| 09:55.07 | zenzelezz | it's sad that we've no gotten further, but looking back 100 years we've come a long way |
| 09:55.17 | Cairenn | yup |
| 09:55.40 | bleeter | Cairenn: yeah well I went looking for your actual twittererrs and had an attack of the illiteracy |
| 09:55.49 | Cairenn | hehehe |
| 09:57.00 | Cairenn | and on that loverly note, I need to go sleep |
| 09:57.57 | bleeter | Cairenn|afk: nn |
| 09:58.04 | Cairenn|afk | :) |
| 09:58.07 | Cairenn|afk | night |
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| 10:30.28 | karl_w_w | http://gameofthronescountdown.com it's under 2 days woo |
| 10:42.42 | p3lim | Add one year and I can see it on tv too *yaynorway* |
| 10:43.06 | p3lim | And people question why we pirate >_> |
| 10:43.12 | karl_w_w | hahahah tv |
| 10:43.20 | karl_w_w | crazy norwegians watch tv |
| 10:43.22 | nevcairiel | karl_w_w: that website fails, it uses your own timezone |
| 10:43.29 | nevcairiel | mine says 2 days 6 hours |
| 10:48.56 | karl_w_w | you fail |
| 10:49.43 | karl_w_w | interesting, it changed recently they must have broken it |
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| 11:35.29 | Humbedooh | where's tharper when there's grammar in the news! |
| 11:35.58 | bluspacecow | grandma ? |
| 11:36.19 | Humbedooh | grammar! |
| 11:36.26 | Humbedooh | like...commas and stuff |
| 11:36.35 | bluspacecow | oh |
| 11:36.41 | bluspacecow | my grandma's all about that |
| 11:44.17 | bleeter | hey linux SDL2 users, please test this guy's engine out if you can! http://forum.maiagame.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=268 |
| 11:45.32 | bluspacecow | *gasp* |
| 11:45.35 | bluspacecow | my keys.... |
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| 13:00.05 | Fisker | my feet are cold bluspacecow |
| 13:00.19 | bluspacecow | ~whalenuke Fisker |
| 13:00.20 | purl | ACTION dons her radiation cloak and tinted glasses while a highly intelligent whale named Ray precipitates critical mass for uncontrolled nuclear fission around Fisker with his mind powers. |
| 13:00.52 | Fisker | much better |
| 13:00.58 | Fisker | thanks bluspacecow |
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| 14:08.06 | karl_w_w | interesting, pet battles don't take place on your server |
| 14:08.15 | karl_w_w | even if they are world pve battles |
| 14:08.47 | foxlit | that's right, they take place on mars. |
| 14:12.42 | karl_w_w | oh foxlit you so silly |
| 14:15.34 | foxlit | I thought payback was appropriate. |
| 14:19.08 | karl_w_w | what did mars ever do to you? |
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| 14:42.01 | bluspacecow | Cairenn|afk: https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/486760_10151013731856901_1637705780_n.jpg |
| 14:42.05 | bluspacecow | helicopter! |
| 14:56.41 | karl_w_w | http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/nation/australian-entertainer-netted-in-uk-sex-probe/story-e6frg6nf-1226609183451 sex probe? |
| 14:57.51 | Unkle | Is that what happens when aliens abduct you? |
| 14:59.12 | karl_w_w | maybe it depends on the alien |
| 15:00.16 | karl_w_w | all aliens are probey but some are more probey than others |
| 15:00.56 | Unkle | Animal Farm, providing jokes about equality and Stalinism since the 1950s. |
| 15:01.55 | Maldivia | isn't the book from the 40s? |
| 15:04.22 | Unkle | I couldn't remember the correct publishing date. So I guessed. |
| 15:05.03 | bluspacecow | hmmm |
| 15:05.15 | bluspacecow | 45 publication date , 1954 film according to wiki |
| 15:06.09 | Maldivia | as far as I remember, he wrote it during WW2, and it was published shortly after |
| 15:06.29 | Unkle | Too bad we didn't listen to his warnings. |
| 15:07.49 | Maldivia | from animal farm, or from 1984? |
| 15:08.09 | Unkle | Mostly Animal Farm. 1984 got a lot more attention. |
| 15:12.59 | Maldivia | well, 1984 has also gotten a lot more real |
| 15:14.05 | Unkle | Animal Farm was pretty 'real' for those living under Stalin. :P |
| 15:16.08 | Maldivia | true |
| 15:18.29 | Unkle | I spent a summer reading novels and biographies of guys living in gulags and "re-education" camps. Humans can be really shitty to other humans. |
| 15:33.25 | Stanzilla | jnwhiteh: is there a slashcommand in tomtom to add a waypoint to the current player position? I assumed "/way "Note here" would do it but it does not :) |
| 15:35.52 | nevcairiel | doesnt tomtom remove waypoints when you reach them? |
| 15:36.17 | nevcairiel | since you are where you are, adding a waypoint at your position would be weird? :p |
| 15:38.14 | Dagmar | Yep. |
| 15:38.39 | Dagmar | It can be somewhat problematic when you've got the exact coordinates for something small, but you don't quite know what it looks like. |
| 15:45.59 | Unkle | If you name a Waypoint but don't delete it manually, it persists. I set waypoints for the Isle rares and TomTom picks one to show me every time I login. |
| 15:48.54 | Stanzilla | I'm trying to breadcrumbs |
| 15:49.05 | Stanzilla | want to mark positions and follow the path later |
| 15:56.05 | Dagmar | I set waypoints for the pet trainers only to have them disappear as I ran by on the way to something else. |
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| 16:35.15 | cogwheel | binary SI prefixes + nybble make some funny words |
| 16:35.38 | cogwheel | i have a 512 gibinybble SSD |
| 16:37.07 | pompy | http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=559377387417847&set=a.167271789961744.36869.152398364782420&type=1 dafuq! |
| 16:37.36 | cogwheel | early april fools? |
| 16:37.41 | cogwheel | or best thing ever? |
| 16:38.54 | Maldivia | ew |
| 16:41.09 | pompy | lol |
| 16:42.26 | TC-work | Do not want. |
| 16:45.35 | Lopeppeppy | 41 pages of FAQ. Gods. |
| 16:48.41 | Unkle | That means something else is wrong. |
| 16:49.46 | Unkle | Bacon flavored/scented mouthwash - for when you want to smell like Denny's all day. |
| 16:50.06 | TC-work | Denny's bacon is less that savory |
| 16:50.13 | TC-work | s/that/than/ |
| 16:50.46 | Unkle | Yes, but you're going to end up stinking like that. |
| 16:59.39 | TC-work | I think there are people that would not mind it |
| 16:59.47 | Fisker | hey cogwheel |
| 16:59.52 | TC-work | Besides, could be high quality bacon |
| 16:59.59 | Fisker | why do you want a 512Gibinybble SSD? |
| 17:00.01 | TC-work | Fisker |
| 17:00.03 | Fisker | those are terrible |
| 17:00.35 | |Jelly| | hmm |
| 17:00.41 | |Jelly| | mcfatties is still serving breakfast |
| 17:02.45 | smcn | what's the function to get the "tracking type" -- humanoid, undead, etc. -- of a unit? |
| 17:09.59 | Unkle | |Jelly|: Scarf it up, lardbutt. <3 |
| 17:10.25 | |Jelly| | Must. Resist. |
| 17:11.01 | TC-work | ~lart |Jelly| |
| 17:11.02 | purl | pulls out a ClueBat (tm) and thwaps |Jelly| |
| 17:11.04 | kd3 | UnitCreatureType |
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| 17:15.35 | smcn | kd3: thanks, i was just looking through the Unit.. functions and was apparently scrolled down too far |
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| 18:38.34 | Semlar | ugh, i have got to stop staying up all night |
| 18:40.15 | Semlar | i feel like my head is in a vice |
| 18:45.12 | Motig | easier said than done |
| 18:46.25 | Semlar | yer |
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| 18:49.45 | TC-work | Semlar: What could possibly be so awesome as to keep you up? |
| 18:51.29 | Semlar | the world is full of wonder |
| 18:53.07 | Semlar | nah it's coffee |
| 18:54.06 | kullervo | hmh, I can't seem to be able to hide the blizzard arena frames. Annoys me to no end in BGs. |
| 18:54.27 | Semlar | have you tried reparenting them to a hidden frame |
| 18:54.31 | Primer | What are you using in their stead? |
| 18:54.36 | Primer | Gladius? |
| 18:54.45 | kullervo | and in BGs, BattlegroundTargets |
| 18:54.50 | Primer | Last I heard, Gladius hadn't been updated |
| 18:55.01 | kullervo | there's a patch for it |
| 18:55.13 | kullervo | no idea if it conflicts with the BG frames though |
| 18:55.13 | Primer | searches for said patch |
| 18:55.35 | kullervo | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info19070-Gladius5.2.html |
| 18:55.37 | Primer | well, IIRC, Gladius had an option for hidding the arena frames? |
| 18:55.52 | kullervo | the blizzard GUI does, too |
| 18:55.58 | kullervo | and in arenas, they're hidden. But not in BGs. |
| 18:56.06 | Primer | This file has been put on hold. The author has been contacted and some issues need to be rectified before this download will be re-enabled. |
| 18:56.32 | Primer | In bgs I only see orb and flag carriers |
| 18:56.44 | Primer | I didn't know Gladius handled those too |
| 18:56.48 | kullervo | those are arena frames |
| 18:57.01 | kullervo | technically, at least if I can trust framestack |
| 18:57.03 | Primer | So for bgs you just use BGT for those? |
| 18:57.12 | Primer | It makes sense that they are |
| 18:57.23 | kullervo | yeah. Shows icons next to the player, really neat. |
| 18:57.36 | Primer | yeah, I use BGT too. Just never noticed it for temple |
| 18:57.49 | kullervo | you might have to config it a bit |
| 18:57.56 | Primer | but for WSG and TP, I've always used BGT to target the FC |
| 18:58.17 | Primer | So many acronyms |
| 18:58.52 | Primer | kullervo: So yeah, the URL you gave me goes to a disabled download |
| 18:59.01 | Primer | continues searching |
| 19:00.12 | Primer | Don't suppose you have the file handy and could put it somewhere? |
| 19:01.03 | Primer | http://www.arenajunkies.com/topic/236675-gladius-52/#entry3856810 |
| 19:01.08 | Primer | Apparently that's all there's to it |
| 19:01.43 | kullervo | Primer: I noticed |
| 19:01.47 | kullervo | ima zip it |
| 19:02.41 | Primer | that link has a zip |
| 19:03.22 | Primer | I'll just try to comment that one line out and see how it goes |
| 19:04.10 | Primer | Is there any way to test that outside of an arena? |
| 19:05.24 | pompy | :O http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/03/29/facebook-to-introduce-its-own-flavor-of-android-for-smartphones/ |
| 19:06.06 | Primer | Retrieving information... |
| 19:06.07 | karl_w_w | sickening pompy |
| 19:06.12 | Primer | is getting so damn old |
| 19:06.21 | Primer | All I want to do is my daily profession CD |
| 19:06.29 | kullervo | Primer: no idea |
| 19:06.51 | karl_w_w | I hope it's illegal somehow |
| 19:07.02 | kd3 | o_O; Signs things may be getting out of hand on the Korean Peninsula, #67: even Russia says, 'damn, dudes, back it up a notch' [Followup] |
| 19:07.07 | Primer | Why would it be illegal? |
| 19:07.13 | kullervo | http://kullervo.dy.fi/pub/drop/file/Gladius.7z |
| 19:07.14 | kd3 | http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-21974381 |
| 19:07.23 | Primer | Cyanogenmod isn't illegal. Android is open source, after all. |
| 19:07.33 | karl_w_w | crimes against humanity? |
| 19:07.52 | Primer | You're not forced to buy it... |
| 19:08.07 | karl_w_w | Crimes against humanity, as defined by the Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court Explanatory Memorandum, "are particularly odious offenses in that they constitute a serious attack on human dignity or grave humiliation or a degradation of human beings. |
| 19:09.21 | Unkle | http://www.joystiq.com/2013/03/28/diablo-3-director-jay-wilson-auction-houses-really-hurt-game/ |
| 19:10.22 | Primer | You don't say |
| 19:11.11 | karl_w_w | wow |
| 19:11.21 | karl_w_w | they thought people wouldn't use the AH? |
| 19:11.36 | Dagmar | Baffled |
| 19:11.40 | karl_w_w | I want to believe that Blizzard aren't complete morons but they keep providing the evidence |
| 19:11.46 | Primer | I'm just surprised people still play Diablo |
| 19:11.47 | Dagmar | Yep |
| 19:11.50 | Unkle | They thought people wouldn't use it as much as they do. |
| 19:12.07 | Dagmar | We'll be able to send them a plaque if they don't add bid markets in the next expansion |
| 19:12.14 | Unkle | And they thought other factors would out-weigh the desire to use it. |
| 19:12.21 | Dagmar | "Celebrated Assemblage Of Idiots Award" |
| 19:12.51 | Dagmar | If there hadn't been a real-money component inolved I don't think it would have been as bad |
| 19:13.03 | Unkle | Hey, he's the same guy who said something nasty on Facebook comments about negative press and had to apologize. |
| 19:13.19 | Dagmar | Item drops were too spread out for it to be reasonable to get usable gear for the second and third run throughs without swapping gear with others |
| 19:13.22 | karl_w_w | "only a small percentage of players would use it" that's less people Unkle, not less often |
| 19:13.45 | Dagmar | ...but the RMT people have a way of reducing everything to a brutal grind. |
| 19:13.57 | Unkle | My construct was sufficiently vague enough to cover both cases. :P |
| 19:14.15 | karl_w_w | so was mine |
| 19:14.19 | karl_w_w | wait no |
| 19:14.33 | karl_w_w | mine was vague enough to cover the reality |
| 19:14.58 | karl_w_w | they expected people not to use it and they did, i didnt say they expected all people not to use it :P |
| 19:15.15 | Dagmar | Well, one thing's for sure. |
| 19:15.22 | Dagmar | They didn't expect the Spanish Inquisition. |
| 19:15.36 | Unkle | I just thought it was an interesting position for him to take that this major feature was harmful to the game. |
| 19:16.10 | Dagmar | It's an honest position |
| 19:16.42 | Dagmar | You needed it to get focused enough gear, but you couldn't really *use* it because the RMT people drove the prices of everything through the roof. |
| 19:17.08 | Unkle | They staked a lot on DIII and while the sales of the game were good, the rest seems like a wash for them. Though learning about doing real money transfers is probably a solid win. |
| 19:17.10 | karl_w_w | you also couldn't really use it because the ui was fucking useless |
| 19:17.26 | Dagmar | So, to try and avoid having to grind your face off on the second run just to get the gear to avoid roflmurdering, you wound up grinding your face off anyway |
| 19:17.33 | Dagmar | karl_w_w: oh lord yes |
| 19:17.53 | karl_w_w | I don't know if it still is useless, I only know 1 person who still plays |
| 19:18.06 | Dagmar | I spent more time playing Torchlight II |
| 19:18.09 | Unkle | I think I spent a lot of time grinding Act I & II on the final difficulty looking for gear. |
| 19:18.27 | Unkle | But I played DIII for like... 2 months tops. |
| 19:18.49 | Dagmar | Unkle: Yeah and without the RMT people draining things, you should have in theory been able to just swap anything "focused enough" for the thing you were looking for |
| 19:19.00 | karl_w_w | i couldnt stick with it, the lag of playing from australia was just destroying any potential for fun |
| 19:19.16 | Unkle | Dagmar: I was playing with a bunch of friends. We traded a lot of things back and forth. |
| 19:19.28 | Dagmar | It was necessary |
| 19:21.22 | Unkle | http://www.geeky-gadgets.com/diablo-3-gameplay-footage-for-the-ps3-unveiled-25-03-2013/ |
| 19:22.37 | Unkle | I'm wondering if consoles wouldn't have been a more 'natural' home for DIII. |
| 19:24.25 | karl_w_w | d3 feels like a pc game to me |
| 19:24.47 | karl_w_w | and not just because it is :P |
| 19:25.48 | karl_w_w | it seems to me that console gamers arent going to be interested in something that's nothing more than a gear grind |
| 19:26.41 | Unkle | Console games lend themselves very well to "beat and be done with" games. And DIII is certainly that. |
| 19:35.30 | foxlit | http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/opie/files/41-lime-1/ << It's out! |
| 19:36.13 | Stanzilla | errmagerrd |
| 19:36.18 | foxlit | (by which I mean it's escaped, leaving a bloody trail behind it) |
| 19:36.55 | Stanzilla | approved it |
| 19:38.03 | TC-work | Unkle: but it's not supposed to be a 'be done with' It's supposed to be a grind |
| 19:38.26 | TC-work | Although, one wonders how things like teleport will work out. |
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| 19:43.08 | kd3 | wow; arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/03/epic-uptime-achievement-can-you-beat-16-years |
| 19:43.38 | kd3 | and fail, firefox. aren't you supposed to automatically insert the protocol bit on copy? |
| 19:43.40 | kd3 | grrs |
| 19:44.17 | TC-work | chrome did |
| 19:44.19 | Fisker | hey kd3 |
| 19:44.27 | kd3 | 'lo |
| 19:45.45 | Fisker | it's against the rules Primer |
| 19:45.50 | Fisker | HTC is making the phone! |
| 19:46.00 | Fisker | (maybe) |
| 19:46.11 | Primer | I hope it fails |
| 19:46.22 | Fisker | of course it does |
| 19:46.33 | Fisker | doesn't say anything about replacing stuff |
| 19:46.37 | Fisker | just making it default |
| 19:46.42 | Fisker | which is technically allowed i believe |
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| 19:52.53 | bleeter | ahahahaha ahahaha ahahaha https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ilMx7k7mso |
| 19:56.27 | TC-work | olagobble down our balls is a great line. |
| 19:56.58 | Lopeppeppy | Was that English? |
| 19:57.06 | TC-work | yea |
| 19:57.16 | TC-work | you need to watch it to understand |
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| 19:58.19 | Lopeppeppy | Oh dear, that sounds too perilous at work. We here at the college have no sense of humor that we're aware of. |
| 20:02.13 | bleeter | Lopeppeppy: ahhh, this one's for your work then https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9pD_UK6vGU |
| 20:09.47 | kd3 | emails out |
| 20:10.18 | TC-work | google is getting slow |
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| 20:28.27 | Adys_ | lol |
| 20:28.31 | Adys_ | Dagmar: holy shit HN. |
| 20:28.53 | Adys | the postgres project posts on how they found a critical security vuln |
| 20:29.11 | Adys | "Oh! No! Now the hackers know there's a vulnerability in postgres!" |
| 20:29.14 | Adys | WE'RE DOOMED |
| 20:29.28 | smcn | dooooooooooooooooooooooooooomed |
| 20:31.51 | Dagmar | hehehe |
| 20:32.49 | Dagmar | I get the feeling whatever it is might be exploitable through the comment system they have |
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| 20:55.57 | Semlar | p3lim: apparently your addon doesn't work |
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| 20:56.44 | Semlar | p3lim: it could be because you're using EJ_SetDifficulty(GetDungeonDifficultyID() - 3) instead of the difficulty from GetInstanceInfo |
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| 21:20.48 | durcyn | GetRaidDifficultyID exists, i'd use the ID functions over GetInstanceInfo for code that has to work for world bosses |
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| 21:58.50 | g0urra | once in a lifetime. http://i.imgur.com/PeAFie3.png |
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| 21:59.12 | nevcairiel | photoshopped! |
| 21:59.27 | g0urra | lol |
| 22:13.42 | g0urra | http://i.imgur.com/3032S3f.png |
| 22:15.36 | Alram | took you 15 minutes to shop a cursor over it g0urra? |
| 22:15.37 | Alram | jeez |
| 22:15.56 | g0urra | the cursor likes to stay on my screenshots, unfortunately |
| 22:16.14 | g0urra | dunno why |
| 22:19.58 | Maldivia | wouldn't something as simple as this work: function GetLFGRoleShortageRewards() return 1, nil, nil, 1; end |
| 22:20.38 | nevcairiel | probably |
| 22:21.20 | g0urra | and type that out how? with just a / before it? |
| 22:21.28 | Maldivia | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:21.55 | g0urra | nothing happened |
| 22:22.16 | Maldivia | check LFG - are they all missing damage now? |
| 22:22.44 | g0urra | there's still a bonus reward if that's what you mean |
| 22:24.48 | Maldivia | there should be, and until you reload the UI, dps will always be the needed class :P |
| 22:26.52 | g0urra | -_- |
| 22:27.13 | Eridius | of course if you were to queue you wouldn't actually get the reward |
| 22:28.05 | nevcairiel | .. or would you! |
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| 22:36.01 | g0urra | hah the reward bag is up again |
| 22:36.08 | g0urra | after I restarted my UI 10 minutes ago |
| 22:39.44 | Kraps | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:43.34 | Primer | hardly |
| 22:46.31 | Kraps | hardly what |
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| 22:49.42 | Stanzilla | hardly a clarification |
| 22:51.16 | kd3 | whee; just how I wanted to spend a friday afternoon |
| 22:51.37 | kd3 | "<kd3>, come help me get the tire back on the tractor and find the pin holding it in with a metal detector" |
| 22:52.17 | Primer | "sorry, dad...no" |
| 22:53.08 | Stanzilla | uhh PVP_ROLE_UPDATE sounds good |
| 22:54.33 | znf | indeed it does |
| 22:54.43 | znf | no more imbalanced battlegrounds, hopefully |
| 22:54.56 | znf | wonder if that means random BGs will have a fixed number of healers required |
| 22:55.03 | Stanzilla | yes |
| 22:55.26 | Stanzilla | should be a bit more dynamic though |
| 22:55.29 | Stanzilla | like "at least 2" |
| 22:55.34 | Stanzilla | not strict 3 |
| 22:55.59 | znf | I would have hoped it only attempts to balance the number of healers evenly on both sides |
| 22:56.08 | znf | like, either no healers on both teams, 1 healer on both, 2 healers on both etc. |
| 22:56.13 | Stanzilla | or that |
| 22:56.42 | znf | else I'm afraid that it will drive the BG queues to be too long (look at LFR how slow it is due to healers) |
| 23:13.24 | g0urra | for the haters http://i.imgur.com/mxLotO8.png |
| 23:20.09 | kd3 | oh, huzzah. they finally gave teleport: vale a different icon |
| 23:23.35 | zenzelezz | was the old one not representative? |
| 23:24.14 | kd3 | it was the shattrath icon |
| 23:24.16 | g0urra | no, it was the shattrath one |
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| 23:38.27 | p3lim | Semlar: Noted |
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