| 00:02.06 | zenzelezz | it sounds odd, since surely the server needs to have the proper order |
| 00:14.59 | Simca | lots of exe updates recently, more than I remember in previous builds |
| 00:15.08 | Simca | err previous patches |
| 00:15.33 | zenzelezz | are those usually rare? I never checked |
| 00:16.16 | Simca | they're not super rare, but we've had 3 in under 2 weeks, which is pretty odd |
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| 01:12.23 | kd3 | we're up to 5.2.0e now |
| 01:12.31 | kd3 | we've never gotten that far |
| 01:12.40 | kd3 | wow, kd3. timestamps |
| 01:13.30 | smcn | kd3 it's even worse when you are scrolled up and don't realize |
| 01:14.09 | smcn | i don't even show join/leave/dc showing so i have no sense of time |
| 01:16.09 | foxlit | kd3: do those letter suffixes actually exist, or is someone just making them up on every client patch? |
| 01:16.17 | kd3 | afaik we're just making them up |
| 01:36.51 | Ressy | easiest way to see # of bug patches |
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| 02:02.10 | foxlit | Any cool ways of figuring out whether you lost some alternative resources (holy power, chi, ...) because you used them, or because they timed out? |
| 02:03.23 | Jammer | you don't lose them in combat I think? |
| 02:03.27 | Eridius | foxlit: I dunno. Pay attention to recent spellcasts? Also, if you're in combat, they can't have timed out |
| 02:03.37 | g0urra | good short term memory? |
| 02:04.29 | foxlit | Jammer: but you can also spend them out of combat. |
| 02:05.19 | foxlit | paying attention to spells probably requires having a list of spells that expend a particular resource. |
| 02:05.39 | foxlit | and then a list of mechanics that allow you to ignore those requirements. That's a bit tedious. |
| 02:07.13 | Jammer | ^ or you could just see if your holy power even changed :p |
| 02:07.44 | Jammer | granted with unlucky timing out might not be 100% accurate |
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| 02:08.43 | Eridius | foxlit: why do you want this to begin with? |
| 02:09.49 | foxlit | (that question makes so much sense when you're asking it, but is apparently pretty annoying on the receiving side) |
| 02:10.26 | foxlit | Eridius: because I want to animate holy power timing out and holy power being expended differently. |
| 02:11.03 | foxlit | The former could fade quietly from view; the other could explode in a flash of holy light or something. |
| 02:30.56 | tem | oh god I'm watching the mlg starcraft tournament and I have no idea what's going on anymore |
| 02:31.09 | tem | they're playing with hots changes and like |
| 02:31.14 | tem | I have no idea what these new units do |
| 02:34.43 | Gnarfoz | exactly how I feel when playing multiplayer sc anyway |
| 02:36.25 | foxlit | TvP, tem? |
| 03:03.23 | smcn | man i love ret paladin in pvp now seriously, first time i ever actually had fun in 2v2 arena |
| 03:03.44 | smcn | (and won consistently) |
| 03:30.18 | Eridius | note to self: don't play UI_BonusLootRoll_Loop without recording the soundHandle somewhere |
| 03:33.23 | Jammer | there is sound on bonus rolls? O_o |
| 03:33.30 | Primer | p3lim: So I just got an X-Fi card. It's the "extreme", which only cost me $50, but I'm hoping it'll do what you do with yours |
| 03:33.44 | Eridius | Jammer: yep |
| 03:34.20 | Jammer | oh yeah the actual roll had some effects I guess |
| 03:34.30 | tem | foxlit, it was a pvz but the zerg wasn't using new stuff |
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| 03:36.04 | tem | how the hell do widow mines work |
| 03:36.10 | tem | this looks like some serious bullshit |
| 03:39.43 | Cairenn | Tem - wth is a widow mine? |
| 03:40.17 | tem | some kind of terran bullshit that's new in hots |
| 03:40.32 | foxlit | the mine fires a single projectile when something comes in proximity with it. It then recharges for ~60 seconds. |
| 03:40.43 | Cairenn | huh, okay, I thought perhaps you'd just mis-spelled it |
| 03:40.49 | kd3 | super spider mines or something? |
| 03:41.13 | Cairenn | ^^ |
| 03:41.31 | tem | I thought they were just spider mines renamed |
| 03:41.33 | tem | but they don't die |
| 03:41.37 | tem | they just keep shooting |
| 03:41.37 | foxlit | Can't pick targets; have to burrow to enable it to fire; can unburrow during recharge. |
| 03:41.40 | tem | you have to kill it |
| 03:41.46 | tem | you can pick the target apparently |
| 03:41.51 | Adys | hahaha |
| 03:41.52 | tem | it's just super micro intensive |
| 03:41.52 | Adys | http://www.reddit.com/r/Diablo/comments/1afhow/the_price_of_iridescent_tears/ |
| 03:41.55 | Adys | looks like I gotta log on d3. |
| 03:42.50 | Adys | if i even can, I dont remember logging in ever working since a couple patches back |
| 03:43.12 | tem | the economy is so inflated that it hurts |
| 03:43.30 | Eridius | is there any easy way to browse through the built-in sounds looking for something appropriate? |
| 03:43.31 | tem | 20 million gold is "cheap" now |
| 03:43.47 | Adys | tem: I have an insane collection of tears which I bought back when they were 35g/each |
| 03:44.01 | Adys | i dont know what thats gonna go for but I'm guessing not 40g. |
| 03:44.13 | Seerah | don't worry, guys, I always put up affordable prices ;) one person *can* make a difference!! (right?) |
| 03:44.57 | tem | oh god lol |
| 03:45.00 | tem | very nice adys |
| 03:45.08 | tem | I'm pretty sure it's over 1k each |
| 03:45.16 | Adys | post says 1800 each |
| 03:45.25 | Adys | I have something like 200 stacks |
| 03:45.30 | Primer | People still play Diablo? |
| 03:45.32 | kd3 | whee. inflation |
| 03:45.40 | Adys | kd3: investment! |
| 03:46.06 | Adys | Primer: not really, i just saw the post and figured it's time to log on to dump the stock |
| 03:47.12 | Primer | Ugh, not sure I'm liking this X-Fi |
| 03:48.33 | Primer | p3lim was saying his has distinctly separate outputs for speakers and headphones |
| 03:48.35 | Adys | kd3: I'm getting "a patch is available..." on d3 but "game is up to date" on the launcher, any idea how to fix? |
| 03:48.50 | Primer | The sound UI here only has "speakers" |
| 03:49.33 | Sharparam | oh thank god the commit bot truncates |
| 03:49.39 | Sharparam | (40 files in 8 directories): [new, +100 commits] (96 truncated) |
| 03:49.51 | kd3 | only suggestions I have would be running a repair/wiping the updater and letting it redownload |
| 03:50.05 | kd3 | I haven't had any wine-related launcher issues in a while |
| 03:50.19 | Adys | kd3: pacman -S lib32-libldap fixed it |
| 03:50.40 | kd3 | whuh |
| 03:51.32 | Adys | holy shit |
| 03:51.41 | Adys | tem: that is a fucking LOT of iridescent tears I have |
| 03:51.42 | Adys | omg |
| 03:52.05 | Adys | this must be what it feels like to wake up from a 6 year coma after buying google stocks in 2003 |
| 03:52.53 | Sharparam | "Lieutenant Dan got me invested in some kind of fruit company. So then I got a call from him, saying we don’t have to worry about money no more. And I said, that’s good! One less thing." |
| 03:53.23 | Adys | hey look they stack to 500 now |
| 03:53.28 | Adys | i can send them to my stash without crashing |
| 03:57.15 | Primer | Please be ready to provide our You are currently at position number [%QueuePosition%] to chat with an agent. Your estimated wait time is [%ESTIMATEDWAITTIME%] minute(s).chat agents additional information about your reason for contacting us. |
| 03:57.33 | Primer | t-mobile fails |
| 03:58.56 | Adys | tem: http://i.imgur.com/VPqgTJa.png |
| 04:01.23 | tem | Adys, :) |
| 04:01.34 | Adys | aaand logout |
| 04:01.45 | Adys | that was satisfying. |
| 04:08.18 | Eridius | damn, just went through all of the UI sounds found in the wow interface, and none are ideal for what I want |
| 04:08.23 | Eridius | GuildVaultClose would be acceptable, but it's too quiet |
| 04:08.52 | Eridius | I could just cop out and use LibSharedMedia, but I already have a problem with LFGCallToArmsBroker where there are people that have zero sounds available through that library |
| 04:12.10 | Stanzilla | Eridius: just do both |
| 04:12.16 | Stanzilla | use the lib and add your own sounds to it |
| 04:12.28 | Eridius | well, there's two issues with that |
| 04:12.41 | Eridius | the first is I don't have any sounds myself, and as I said the built-in ones aren't very suitable |
| 04:12.57 | Eridius | and the second is, if I add built-in sounds to LSM, and other addons add built-in sounds to LSM, that gets awfully crowded with the same sounds accessible via different keys |
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| 04:33.02 | Eridius | Is there any way to peruse the sounds built-in to WoW that aren't referenced in the interface lua files? |
| 04:34.16 | Seerah | well, there's this :) http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info13194-SoundcommandsforeverysoundupdatedforMoP.html |
| 04:34.40 | Seerah | or you can dig through the mpq files like blu did |
| 04:34.47 | Eridius | hah nice. |
| 04:34.52 | Eridius | and I'm trying to find out right now how to expand MPQ files |
| 04:35.43 | Eridius | damn that's a lot of sounds |
| 04:41.38 | Seerah | http://www.teefury.com/ Miyazaki shirt |
| 04:42.07 | Eridius | grr, I can't figure out what sound is played when a totem is destroyed |
| 04:45.51 | karl_w_w | isn't that sort of thing handled in the ui? |
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| 04:55.37 | karl_w_w | Eridius: Sound\Creature\TotemAll\TotemDeathGenericA.ogg ? |
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| 04:56.05 | Eridius | karl_w_w: no that's not it |
| 04:58.10 | bluspacecow | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:59.01 | karl_w_w | yay bluspacecow |
| 04:59.07 | bluspacecow | HI! |
| 04:59.08 | karl_w_w | booo Eridius |
| 04:59.23 | bluspacecow | wot we talking aout |
| 04:59.44 | karl_w_w | <Eridius> grr, I can't figure out what sound is played when a totem is destroyed |
| 04:59.59 | Eridius | hai bluspacecow |
| 05:00.12 | bluspacecow | heh |
| 05:00.23 | bluspacecow | i don't recall an api call to figure that out |
| 05:00.44 | Eridius | when searching through the sound list, none of the obvious substrings provide any useful sounds |
| 05:00.51 | Eridius | but it's ok I think I've found a suitable alternative sound |
| 05:01.19 | Eridius | now I'm just trying to decide if I should pull in all of AceGUI-3.0 just to be able to use AceGUI-3.0-SharedMediaWidgets, just so users can pick another sound if they want |
| 05:04.52 | karl_w_w | people like picking sounds |
| 05:08.14 | karl_w_w | http://www.mediaite.com/online/racism-talk-at-cpac-derailed-when-attendee-says-slaves-should-have-been-grateful/ so apparently dem republicans aren't racist |
| 05:08.57 | Eridius | wow |
| 05:32.42 | smcn | it's kind of sad because if the talk went swimmingly it wouldn't have been picked up by anyone |
| 05:36.15 | Dagmar | waits for Fox News to affirm that slaves should be grateful. |
| 05:37.13 | karl_w_w | the previous day, that guy talking to his friend: "so i hear the republicans are having a big meeting about how not-racist they are, we should go down there, I'll ask the world's most bigoted questions and you wrap yourself in a confederate flag" |
| 05:40.23 | Adys | Eridius: Look in Sound/Creature/Totem |
| 05:40.41 | Adys | Eridius: or possibly search for *shaman* |
| 05:40.55 | Adys | it's an old sound so it's probably been in the files forever |
| 05:41.08 | Adys | you could build a filter for short oggs that are in build 1.x |
| 05:41.49 | Adys | Eridius: also what do you mean "expand the mpqs"? |
| 05:47.25 | Eridius | Adys: well an MPQ is a pack of data files, so expanding them would unpack all the data files into my filesystem. But whatever |
| 05:47.44 | bluspacecow | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:48.07 | Adys | you're looking for "extract [from]", or "unpack" |
| 05:48.21 | Eridius | Adys: is "expand" not a synonym for "unpack"? |
| 05:48.33 | Adys | they have different meaning in that area |
| 05:48.41 | Adys | but more generally no its not |
| 05:49.14 | Adys | unpacking is the concept of separating items that have been packed together |
| 05:49.23 | Adys | expanding is the concept of an item that grows on its own |
| 05:49.32 | Adys | s/on/by/ |
| 05:49.39 | Eridius | "grows by its own"? |
| 05:49.40 | Adys | retard |
| 05:49.40 | karl_w_w | lol |
| 05:49.42 | Eridius | I don't think so |
| 05:50.02 | Adys | Eridius: its 5.47am |
| 05:50.09 | Adys | even the bot is being an asshole |
| 05:50.14 | Eridius | haha |
| 05:50.56 | Adys | Eridius: I meant grows from itself |
| 05:51.36 | karl_w_w | like a seedling |
| 05:51.38 | Eridius | Adys: when you unpack any sort of compressed format (and MPQ is compressed), the resulting files take up more space than the original |
| 05:51.41 | Eridius | which is why the term "expand" is used |
| 05:51.44 | Adys | yes, but you separate them |
| 05:51.50 | Adys | so it's not by itself anymore |
| 05:51.53 | Adys | if you gunzip a tar.gz, you expand it |
| 05:52.04 | Adys | if you tar xf a tar.gz, you unpack it |
| 05:52.09 | Eridius | the term "expand" doesn't carry with it the connotation of a single unit |
| 05:52.38 | Adys | it does, and not just in informatics |
| 05:52.40 | bluspacecow | i is hungry. |
| 05:52.46 | Adys | a city, country, company expanding |
| 05:53.24 | Eridius | Adys: ok, so if England goes on a rampage again and takes over, lets say, Japan, it's now expanded, yes? But its actual territory is multiple discrete units |
| 05:53.54 | Adys | as a country you expand into neighbouring territories, england would not be able to expand into japan |
| 05:54.29 | Adys | you can say conquer, you can say appropriate, etc but you cant say expand |
| 05:54.30 | Eridius | really? I don't recall there being any restriction saying a country may only take over neighboring territories. |
| 05:54.37 | Adys | I mean for the definition of expand |
| 05:54.39 | Eridius | The UK certainly didn't respect that rule back when they were expanding |
| 05:55.06 | Eridius | ok this is a thoroughly silly argument |
| 05:55.29 | karl_w_w | if england takes over japan but japan remains a seperate unit, then japan is not part of england |
| 05:55.36 | Adys | and for what its worth you wouldn't be able to apply the term expand in a political sense here either as there are legal connotations to it too |
| 05:55.37 | karl_w_w | therefore not expanded |
| 05:56.26 | Adys | karl_w_w: if for whatever reason from one day to another Japan is owned by England, it cannot be through expansion |
| 05:56.57 | Adys | When thinking about expansion, think of a drop of water on a sheet of paper |
| 05:57.21 | Adys | but yes, I agree, this is a very silly argument |
| 05:57.25 | Adys | if it weren't, I wouldn't be having it |
| 05:58.39 | karl_w_w | that's silly Adys |
| 05:58.54 | karl_w_w | a drop of water on a piece of paper causes the paper to expand not the water |
| 05:59.00 | karl_w_w | the water simply spreads |
| 05:59.04 | karl_w_w | jeez! |
| 05:59.12 | Adys | The water spread, the stain expands |
| 05:59.20 | Adys | s/d/ds/ |
| 05:59.48 | bluspacecow | it's not silly until you have funny walks! |
| 06:00.28 | karl_w_w | gives bluspacecow funny walks and a song by Of Monsters and Men |
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| 06:01.07 | Adys | Eridius: I was going to go to sleep but now I can't because I keep trying to remember the word for the case you described |
| 06:01.11 | Adys | so fu :( |
| 06:03.29 | Adys | Eridius: Also just to annoy you further: Extent is a synonym of stretch, and as you know you cannot stretch something if you break it up into pieces |
| 06:04.36 | Adys | karl_w_w: actually "spread" is fine politically |
| 06:05.07 | Adys | ok I'm tired |
| 06:05.09 | Adys | Shirik: you take over |
| 06:07.30 | karl_w_w | i didnt say it wasnt :P |
| 06:08.25 | Adys | karl_w_w: no i meant it's fine for the case Eridius was describing |
| 06:08.39 | Adys | England spreads into east asia, japan |
| 06:15.13 | karl_w_w | not if the country doesn't become England |
| 06:33.55 | Eridius | hrm, bigwigs can't do proximity on Isle of Giants. That sucks |
| 06:37.55 | Stanzilla | Eridius: really? even if you open it manually? |
| 06:38.02 | Stanzilla | might be map data missing then |
| 06:38.28 | Eridius | Stanzilla: `/range 10` says no map data |
| 06:38.37 | Eridius | but people in group are sayign to use `/range 10` so I assume DBM has it |
| 06:38.37 | Stanzilla | kagaro: ^ |
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| 07:07.59 | nebula169 | Eridius: you mean the island isn't a clusterfuck of people? |
| 07:08.18 | Eridius | nebula169: oh it absolutely is. And /range is kind of useless when you have multiple raid groups anyway |
| 07:08.19 | nebula169 | because the range check is only good for people in your raid |
| 07:08.29 | Eridius | but it's still annoying that BW can't even open up the range display there |
| 07:08.38 | nebula169 | why, its pointless |
| 07:08.45 | Eridius | better than nothing |
| 07:09.01 | nebula169 | the range isn't that big, just don't stand on anyone |
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| 07:19.21 | karl_w_w | just go to isle of giants at night |
| 07:19.24 | karl_w_w | problem solved |
| 07:19.38 | karl_w_w | or get some to crz you onto a realm where it is night |
| 07:19.50 | bluspacecow | only prob |
| 07:19.52 | nebula169 | no loot, why go |
| 07:19.54 | bluspacecow | when its night |
| 07:20.03 | bluspacecow | theres somewhere else where its day |
| 07:20.32 | karl_w_w | when i go there in my night there's only a couple of peoples around |
| 07:25.18 | bluspacecow | how fortunate for you *raises cup of milo* |
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| 08:40.25 | bluspacecow | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/8197181728?page=1#5 |
| 08:40.41 | bluspacecow | the OP must be new to the UI and Macros forum |
| 08:40.44 | bluspacecow | :3 |
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| 10:07.37 | bleeter | tackle hugs Sixen .... "BBBBBBRRRRRRRAAAAAAAIIINNNSSS" |
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| 10:19.48 | Shirik | just finished 2nd gig |
| 10:20.22 | Shirik | I"m curious of others' opinions on whether stand alone complex 1 or 2 is better |
| 10:20.38 | Shirik | kd3 Arrowmaster KarlKFI |
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| 10:53.28 | zenzelezz | hm, big "Google Reader will not be available after July 1, 2013"-message when going to Reader... at least no-one can accuse them of not warning properly |
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| 11:01.03 | karl_w_w | who can dispel poison? |
| 11:08.54 | Humbedooh | me me me |
| 11:09.18 | nevcairiel | druids at least, no idea who else :p |
| 11:10.03 | Torhal | dispels Humbedooh. |
| 11:10.26 | Humbedooh | encapsulates Torhal in a luasec socket wrapper |
| 11:10.48 | Dridzt | priest mass dispel works on all debuffs too |
| 11:12.03 | Torhal | executes Humbedooh from within an anonymous function enclosed in a do-end block. |
| 11:12.32 | Humbedooh | converts Torhal to an ipairs iteration |
| 11:12.40 | Torhal | !!! |
| 11:12.59 | Humbedooh | the ladies loves the ipairs |
| 11:13.05 | Torhal | ... |
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| 11:13.10 | Humbedooh | and grammatical errors too |
| 11:13.11 | Dridzt | Poison cleansing: Paladin, Monk, (lvl20+), Druid (lvl22+), Priest (lvl72+) |
| 11:13.17 | zenzelezz | I thought it'd be the other way around |
| 11:13.32 | zenzelezz | "Check out the ipairs on that chick" |
| 11:13.37 | Torhal | Humbedooh: Do they accompany an epeen? |
| 11:13.56 | Humbedooh | Torhal: you should know, you're the one converted into ipairs, not me! |
| 11:14.10 | Torhal | So weird. |
| 11:14.44 | Humbedooh | had to *gasp* write a program in C++ the other day because Lua sucked :\ |
| 11:14.52 | Humbedooh | or well...LuaSQL sucked.... |
| 11:15.19 | Torhal | Should have used PowerShell syntax. |
| 11:15.59 | Humbedooh | except I won't have a Windows machine :| |
| 11:16.11 | Humbedooh | or well, I sort of do, but only for playing games on |
| 11:16.12 | Torhal | Write one! |
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| 11:17.00 | Humbedooh | happy 'get drunk and pretend to be Irish' day everyone! |
| 11:17.22 | Humbedooh | even though st. paddy was a scotsman apparently |
| 11:17.22 | Torhal | My last name is Callahan. |
| 11:17.31 | nevcairiel | i dont need no special date to get drunk |
| 11:17.38 | Humbedooh | well today it's O'Flaherty, Torhal! |
| 11:18.04 | Torhal | Not O'Jeebus? |
| 11:18.16 | Humbedooh | that's your every day nickname, I should think |
| 11:18.22 | Torhal | Hah |
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| 11:57.07 | Maldivia | Adys: seen the midwife sketches from red nose day? |
| 11:58.48 | Adys | Maldivia: Nope |
| 11:59.27 | Maldivia | Adys: http://youtu.be/tV0y8bRJxHE <-- part 1, http://youtu.be/E_HDzq_8nOU <-- part 2 (with doctor who) |
| 11:59.55 | Adys | I'm about to leave, I'll have a look later tonight :) |
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| 14:09.04 | Fisker | lol Adys |
| 14:12.42 | VIad | Semlar: hmm, trying to find a way to make ScenarioQueueFrame_SetType show the queue screen for the singleplayer scenario - but can't seem to find how to do it, found an id 620 not sure if it means much, but you got dbc files maybe you could take a peak :P think mine are outdated hehe |
| 14:16.39 | Fisker | i said lol Adys |
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| 14:20.20 | VIad | Adys is not amused, Fisker :( |
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| 14:39.31 | karl_w_w | what single player scenario? |
| 14:39.51 | karl_w_w | ^ VIad |
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| 14:41.40 | karl_w_w | http://gameofthronescountdown.com/ so close! |
| 14:52.22 | p3lim | My new homepage that is |
| 14:56.14 | VIad | yes karl_w_w |
| 14:56.35 | VIad | "Enable Javascript, mofo" |
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| 15:20.45 | karl_w_w | not sure how that answers my question VIad :P |
| 15:20.54 | VIad | it's the |
| 15:20.55 | VIad | new one |
| 15:20.58 | VIad | with looting stuff |
| 15:21.09 | karl_w_w | it doesnt have a queue screen |
| 15:21.36 | VIad | it uses the queue system |
| 15:21.38 | VIad | scenario one |
| 15:21.45 | VIad | so it should be possible to force queue for it I reckon |
| 15:21.57 | foxlit | quit exploiting the game, Susan. |
| 15:22.21 | karl_w_w | i think it only uses the key when ur inside anyway |
| 15:22.25 | VIad | like the old LFD events, you had to speak to the NPC to queue up, but you can also just use API to force the UI to show the event in the queue screen :D |
| 15:22.27 | karl_w_w | to unlock the first door |
| 15:22.28 | VIad | it does |
| 15:22.36 | karl_w_w | so what's the point |
| 15:22.38 | VIad | so it should be possible to queue for it anywhere in the world |
| 15:22.42 | VIad | :P |
| 15:22.56 | karl_w_w | ur a bad man |
| 15:23.41 | VIad | I know |
| 15:38.20 | Simca | would also allow you to possibly force queue for the single player IotTK scenarios and/or warlock-quest scenario |
| 15:38.38 | Simca | which do not require items |
| 15:39.06 | Simca | why don't you just run it like 100000 times |
| 15:39.40 | Simca | for i = 1, 100000 and make it stop periodically when a screen pops up |
| 15:40.20 | Simca | i'm sure scenario queues fire an event you can watch for |
| 15:51.31 | VIad | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:51.34 | VIad | just on the subject |
| 15:51.42 | VIad | but id is some unique ID |
| 15:51.47 | VIad | not the index in the list |
| 15:52.00 | VIad | probably located in some dbc file over scenarios, but mine is outdated :P |
| 15:58.05 | Adys | Fisker: what is it? |
| 15:58.23 | Adys | vlad, interesting |
| 15:58.30 | Adys | is there a way to get scenario info by this id? |
| 16:00.38 | Dridzt | Vlad, do you have a scenario with a known id? |
| 16:00.46 | VIad | hmm |
| 16:01.03 | VIad | got a dungeon example |
| 16:01.32 | VIad | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:01.53 | VIad | but haven't done any scenarios yet, but seems to be using the same API as dungeons for queue and such |
| 16:02.09 | VIad | it's a dungeon queue in the end, just appears to be separate on the front end :) |
| 16:02.26 | Dridzt | hmm, sec |
| 16:04.05 | Dridzt | ok what's the name of the solo one? |
| 16:06.28 | VIad | hmm |
| 16:06.33 | VIad | good question |
| 16:06.37 | VIad | what was it again |
| 16:06.45 | zenzelezz | sometimes I think I let the entire credits for a game roll just to see which libraries they used in the games |
| 16:07.03 | g0urra | Dridzt: The Assault on Zeb'tula (Horde) or The Assault on Shaol'mara (Alliance) |
| 16:07.33 | Dridzt | 206 and 212 respectively |
| 16:07.33 | g0urra | if you mean the one-time solo scenarios on isle of thunder |
| 16:09.39 | foxlit | whoever designed the geometry around hatchling skyscreamers should be forced to do that daily quest every day. |
| 16:12.16 | foxlit | http://go-hero.net/i/tki.mp4 << unrelated. |
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| 16:14.23 | Dridzt | Vlad: here's a paste (tsv) with all of them http://www.wowace.com/paste/7353/ |
| 16:14.53 | VIad | hmm |
| 16:15.08 | Dridzt | not working as you hoped I'm guessing? :P |
| 16:15.14 | VIad | 211 or 215 |
| 16:15.19 | VIad | I haven't tested |
| 16:15.32 | Dridzt | the 2 you asked about are 206 and 212 |
| 16:15.49 | Fisker | read about the feedly thing? |
| 16:16.17 | Fisker | http://blog.feedly.com/2013/03/15/priorities-keeping-the-site-up-and-adding-new-features/ |
| 16:16.18 | Fisker | :D |
| 16:17.02 | VIad | I did it today and the name had "Thunder" in it |
| 16:17.06 | VIad | that's why I react :P |
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| 16:20.54 | VIad | my pidgin crashed :( |
| 16:24.30 | Stanzilla | foxlit: I like that castbar/cp/powerbar cluster |
| 16:26.44 | Adys | Anyone knows if there's a way to alias ssh to read an additional config file? or if theres a way to import a ssh config file from another? there's -F <configfile> but it only reads a single file |
| 16:27.45 | Maldivia | why do you want multiple config files ? |
| 16:28.01 | Adys | Maldivia: I want to add a "Host" item from a virtualenv |
| 16:28.52 | Maldivia | could always just combine the two files and then use that as the config file? |
| 16:29.12 | Adys | that would be a hack and not get updated when i change stuff in ~/.ssh/config |
| 16:30.54 | Adys | http://serverfault.com/questions/375525/can-you-have-more-than-one-ssh-config-file |
| 16:30.55 | Adys | :( |
| 16:32.13 | Maldivia | looks like what I was suggesting |
| 16:34.19 | karl_w_w | <foxlit> whoever designed the geometry around hatchling skyscreamers should be forced to do that daily quest every day. <- i love that daily |
| 16:34.45 | znf | beats karl_w_w with a rusty stick |
| 16:35.17 | karl_w_w | sticks don't rust |
| 16:35.50 | VIad | lue issues |
| 16:35.52 | karl_w_w | unless they are brown and sticky |
| 16:35.52 | VIad | lua* |
| 16:35.53 | VIad | darn it |
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| 16:37.59 | VIad | dungeon ID seems to be 620 |
| 16:38.06 | VIad | but then it shows "Random Scenario" in the UI |
| 16:38.18 | VIad | if I do for instance /run ScenarioQueueFrame_SetType(215) |
| 16:38.37 | VIad | it errors with a nil error (background) in the lfgframe.lua file |
| 16:38.48 | VIad | meaning it uses LFGRewardsFrame_UpdateFrame to update the visuals |
| 16:38.55 | VIad | and if dungeonID is invalid it bugs out |
| 16:39.27 | VIad | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:39.38 | bluworkcow | output |
| 16:39.40 | bluworkcow | PIZZA |
| 16:39.42 | bluworkcow | yum! |
| 16:40.13 | VIad | can even do /run LFDQueueFrame_SetType(620) :P |
| 16:40.25 | VIad | but seems it doesn't allow you to queue unless you speak to the npc and use the gossip option |
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| 16:41.33 | Fisker | are you trying to automate glyphing? |
| 16:42.16 | Adys | Maldivia: shit; if i use the alias ssh=compile-config && ssh -F |
| 16:42.25 | Adys | scp wont figure it out will it? |
| 16:43.40 | Maldivia | one way to find out |
| 16:45.04 | Fisker | there are actually several ways of finding it out |
| 16:45.21 | Maldivia | s/one/at least one/ |
| 16:45.30 | Maldivia | betteR? |
| 16:45.59 | Fisker | nope |
| 16:47.31 | Neffi | Anyone know a good album art downloader for foobar2000 that works nowadays? |
| 16:47.32 | Adys | Maldivia: nope :( |
| 16:47.40 | Neffi | (Discogs stopped working on me a while ago) |
| 16:57.52 | Neffi | Nevermind, Discogs tagger works again |
| 17:05.46 | Stanzilla | Adys: good android ssh client? |
| 17:06.02 | Adys | Stanzilla: connectbot |
| 17:06.07 | Stanzilla | thank you |
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| 17:14.42 | VIad | I don't think http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MIMAL looks like an Elf at all :P |
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| 17:20.06 | VIad | had to google to have wiki explained, that doesn't happen that often |
| 17:21.21 | Seerah | VIad: it's a side view |
| 17:21.26 | VIad | yeah so I found out |
| 17:21.30 | Seerah | shrugs |
| 17:21.38 | VIad | weird that the wiki article didn't outline that :P |
| 17:21.44 | VIad | to make more sense of the image hehe |
| 17:22.01 | Seerah | well, I didn't learn MIMAL in school (that I can remember) and I could see the side view ;) hehe |
| 17:23.46 | durcyn | man, warlock green fire quest boss is a beast. |
| 17:23.57 | VIad | be happy you have a class quest at all |
| 17:23.57 | Stanzilla | maybe you are just bad? |
| 17:24.04 | VIad | hunters lost theirs in wotlk/cata :( |
| 17:24.05 | durcyn | i killed it, Stanzilla |
| 17:24.11 | Stanzilla | GZ! |
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| 17:29.11 | smcn | durcyn indeed, i've been making attempts every few days on my friend's lock |
| 17:29.21 | smcn | i think i'm giving up until better geared |
| 17:29.33 | smcn | even as destro just can't take the felhunters down fast enough |
| 17:30.40 | durcyn | did it as aff, banish one, fear another, nuke the third and LOS the chaos bolt |
| 17:30.46 | durcyn | helps to save UR for felhunter spawns too |
| 17:31.44 | smcn | what's your gear like? i was trying it as aff for awhile too, same problem on felhunters but everything else was easier because i could soul shatter after the pit lord spawn and never had to worry about chaos bolts since the pit lord always had aggro |
| 17:32.14 | smcn | also is there a way to tell when he's going to drop that pushback field thing on you? that screwed me twice when losing chaos bolt, i got stuck in a corner |
| 17:32.42 | durcyn | not that i saw |
| 17:34.11 | End_ | pushback field? |
| 17:34.14 | End_ | you mean from the seed? |
| 17:34.20 | smcn | is taht what it is? |
| 17:34.24 | End_ | the effect of the seed is random |
| 17:34.28 | smcn | oh |
| 17:34.30 | End_ | but if you dispel yourself you'll never get it |
| 17:34.41 | smcn | is that also what gives you the stunning debuff? |
| 17:34.47 | smcn | the annoying imp |
| 17:34.48 | End_ | the annoying imps, yes |
| 17:34.52 | smcn | fuuuuuuuu |
| 17:35.06 | smcn | i guess saccing imp would be a good idea |
| 17:35.21 | smcn | but still, gonna wait till better geared |
| 17:35.36 | End_ | I think the breath from the pitlord dispels per second if you don't want sac imp |
| 17:35.36 | bluworkcow | going home from work tiems |
| 17:35.42 | smcn | we just do lfr so it'll be a few weeks probably |
| 17:36.03 | smcn | yeah it does but during felhunters you have to park him behind a pillar |
| 17:36.26 | smcn | i was saccing voidwalker but the last stand thing isn't terribly useful that i saw |
| 17:36.33 | durcyn | ctrl-3 the pit lord opposite the gate, then stand in the breath so it dispels, you don't really have to worry about debuffs |
| 17:36.38 | End_ | the felhunters only seem to dispel the enslave if they are facing the pitlord |
| 17:36.45 | durcyn | then move it farther out for fh spawn |
| 17:37.23 | smcn | yeah i have a macro for the breath already, just during the felhunters is when i have problem, didn't know the seed was responsible for that other annoying stuff |
| 17:37.55 | End_ | yeah the seed is the worst of his debuffs |
| 17:38.19 | Semlar | i don't know anything about the scenarios, vlad |
| 17:38.29 | smcn | hopefully she gets lucky with drops in tot next week with 2 wings being open |
| 17:41.29 | Semlar | does anyone know why my watch frame will only show like one or two quests at a time |
| 17:41.44 | End_ | increase the height |
| 17:41.50 | Semlar | how |
| 17:41.53 | End_ | I dunno |
| 17:42.09 | End_ | :SetHeight()? :P |
| 17:42.10 | smcn | i think it's based on ui scale/resolution |
| 17:42.34 | Semlar | i made it draggable at some point and i think that may have screwed it up |
| 17:42.34 | smcn | you can also try enabling "wider objectives tracker" in interface -> game -> objectives |
| 17:42.47 | smcn | probs |
| 17:42.48 | End_ | my WatchFrame gets moved to a different side of the screen and height increased in my blob of lua code |
| 17:43.01 | End_ | but I used to have issues with it not showing much stuff until I did that |
| 17:43.24 | Semlar | it used to take up pretty much the entire side of my screen |
| 17:44.52 | Semlar | oh i bet its height is being set by SetPoint |
| 17:45.20 | Semlar | that would explain why moving it breaks it |
| 17:46.52 | End_ | Are you moving it down from it's original position or something? |
| 17:47.18 | End_ | wait no you said it was draggable that doesn't make sense |
| 17:48.32 | Semlar | i replaced the minimap and had to move it but instead of setting it manually i just made it draggable |
| 17:49.02 | Semlar | i think i need to manually set the height though |
| 17:49.08 | End_ | wouldn't it keep it's original height though after being dragged? |
| 17:50.07 | End_ | although I guess I'm not sure what happens after reload in this case |
| 17:54.52 | Semlar | its original height is nothing because i'm moving it down but not actually setting more than one point |
| 17:55.24 | Semlar | i didn't know it relied on its height when i did that |
| 17:55.59 | Semlar | it would have been more obvious if i had more than one quest at the time |
| 17:56.00 | End_ | I wouldn't think it would lose it because doing :ClearAllPoints() doesn't seem to cause things to immediately cease being displayed |
| 17:56.21 | End_ | but perhaps :SetPoints() causes it to recalculate things and lose any height it knew about earlier I dunno |
| 17:56.41 | End_ | s/:setPoints()/:SetPoint()/ |
| 17:56.46 | Semlar | i'm pretty sure once you call SetPoint after ClearAllPoints it loses all of the old information |
| 18:01.23 | End_ | interesting |
| 18:02.05 | End_ | tried doing a :SetPoint() after clearing all points and it is still at the original pre-:ClearAllPoints() position |
| 18:02.21 | End_ | I should double check it |
| 18:02.36 | End_ | oh wait there it goes |
| 18:02.47 | End_ | I must have messed something up before |
| 18:02.55 | End_ | I'm not sure I understand its behavior though |
| 18:04.27 | End_ | no, I was right originally...until you give it enough points (or w/h) to calcuate a new position, the first :SetPoint after :ClearAllPoints does nothing |
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| 18:08.59 | Dridzt | You could check that you don't have it filtering to current zone (quest tracker I mean) |
| 18:09.08 | Dridzt | right-click header to access those options |
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| 18:14.18 | Semlar | nah it's not filtering out the other ones, it's just only displaying one or two quests at a time |
| 18:14.48 | Semlar | it's definitely because of the height |
| 18:15.06 | Semlar | i can do like WatchFrame:SetHeight(500) and it'll display 4 of them |
| 18:28.38 | End_ | what the fuck |
| 18:28.48 | End_ | I turned my camera and it caused my demonic portal to despawn |
| 18:28.49 | Seerah | the watchframe does not have a height |
| 18:28.54 | Seerah | it is set via 2 setpoint calls |
| 18:29.00 | Seerah | Semlar: ^^ |
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| 18:29.18 | End_ | this is even worse than it was before 5.1 |
| 18:29.44 | Seerah | Semlar: when you call ClearAllPoints(), you either need to set a height or call SetPoint() twice for two different corners to give it a height |
| 18:30.21 | Semlar | okay |
| 18:34.54 | Diesal_ | wow setTopLevel dosnt play nicely when dragging frames near other frames with this value set, bleh now i have to code my own implementation |
| 18:35.19 | foxlit | Diesal_: nothing works and nobody knows why nothing works. |
| 18:36.09 | Diesal_ | it works , but im not a fan of the complete UI lockup for about 5 seconds |
| 18:36.44 | foxlit | That's my impression of the built-in frame-level manipulation functions. With the exception of SetFrameLevel, /nothing/ does what the documentation says. |
| 18:37.15 | nevcairiel | the problem is that we wrote the documentation :p |
| 18:37.22 | Diesal_ | yeah im starting to find out the hard way on more then just this occasion |
| 18:37.59 | foxlit | nevcairiel: I think in this case, it's actually both: the documentation lies, and the API is behaving in illogical ways. |
| 18:38.03 | Diesal_ | hence why i took AceGui and started tobuld my own implemntation |
| 18:38.10 | Diesal_ | build* |
| 18:38.23 | Shadowed | Why would you take AceGUI and then build your own |
| 18:38.37 | Diesal_ | i mean i used it as a point of refernce |
| 18:38.44 | Shadowed | Why would you even do that |
| 18:38.48 | End_ | the documentation only lies because the behavior defies explaination |
| 18:38.50 | Shadowed | config builders are horribly tedious |
| 18:38.59 | Shadowed | and AceGUI already is modular |
| 18:39.40 | foxlit | End_: in that case, I expect a page saying "what this function does defies explanation" not nicely-formatted nonsense. |
| 18:39.51 | End_ | fair enough |
| 18:40.27 | nevcairiel | its just that people documented what they saw |
| 18:40.39 | nevcairiel | which may be different for e veryone of them |
| 18:41.02 | Diesal_ | its my own personal library, of widgets and a css implentation for them , built loosely around the way AceGui was implemented, it works for me and im happy with it |
| 18:41.39 | Shadowed | Blizzards also changed the frame implementations over the years from what I recall |
| 18:42.11 | Shadowed | so it's probably just out of date as well |
| 18:42.44 | foxlit | take something deceptively simple, like Button:Raise() |
| 18:42.46 | Diesal_ | whats out of date exactly? |
| 18:42.55 | Iriel | SetTopLevel was always a bit of a hack |
| 18:43.04 | Iriel | And never behaved well in the presence of dragging |
| 18:43.29 | Diesal_ | yeah thats i what ive just figured out now |
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| 18:56.00 | zenzelezz | "Is it possible to have a pointer to a pointer point to the variable pointed by the first pointer?"... my head... |
| 18:58.23 | astoo | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:58.43 | foxlit | to stop bots. |
| 18:59.23 | Semlar | when did bots ever follow someone |
| 18:59.28 | astoo | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:59.31 | Semlar | the only bots i ever saw were just running into walls and lakes |
| 18:59.53 | astoo | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:59.59 | foxlit | the plural of anecdote is not data. |
| 19:00.15 | Semlar | is it dota |
| 19:00.35 | foxlit | only if you're trolling. |
| 19:04.32 | Semlar | what the fuck |
| 19:04.44 | Semlar | is "set" a valid action for SetAttribute |
| 19:05.20 | Semlar | tukui is calling button:SetAttribute('action', 'set') |
| 19:05.49 | Semlar | i'm hooking SetAttribute and set is obviously not a valid slot |
| 19:06.06 | foxlit | oops! |
| 19:06.25 | Semlar | i guess i'm going to have to check if it's a number first |
| 19:06.40 | Semlar | HasAction does not approve of this |
| 19:07.16 | foxlit | I have a very inappropriate metaphor in mind for what you're doing. |
| 19:07.27 | Semlar | there's nothing wrong with what i'm doing |
| 19:07.55 | Semlar | tukui can't just go around setting things to things they aren't meant to be set to |
| 19:08.35 | foxlit | And why not? :) |
| 19:09.30 | Semlar | because i didn't bother writing any sanity checks |
| 19:09.45 | foxlit | hooking built-in methods is like sticking your hand into every hole you encounter, and then being surprised when you encounter a termite hive. |
| 19:10.13 | foxlit | Or perhaps a mousetrap. "Like wtf, who puts mousetraps there!" |
| 19:11.32 | Semlar | but action is supposed to be a number, you can't set it to a string like this |
| 19:11.54 | Semlar | unless "set" is a special case |
| 19:12.12 | Semlar | i don't know what that does |
| 19:13.14 | foxlit | Semlar: try searching here: http://www.wowpedia.org/SecureActionButtonTemplate#Action_Types |
| 19:13.50 | Semlar | well, it's not a value for action going by that |
| 19:13.59 | Semlar | they do mention it under mainassist |
| 19:15.25 | foxlit | so in other words, yes, that's a valid place to put a mouse trap. |
| 19:15.53 | karl_w_w | plenty of BG bots used to follow people |
| 19:16.00 | Semlar | you can't do SetAttribute('action', 'set') |
| 19:16.07 | Semlar | it shouldn't do anything |
| 19:16.45 | karl_w_w | it was common practice to move about a bit at the start to check you weren't being followed so you could trap the bots on terrain so they'd be out of combat long enough to kick |
| 19:16.58 | foxlit | except, you know, set maintank/mainassist assignments. |
| 19:17.03 | foxlit | or world markers. |
| 19:17.11 | Semlar | that's not an action |
| 19:17.24 | foxlit | So what? |
| 19:17.49 | foxlit | The attribute is still used for that. In combination with a different type, but attributes do not have to be in a consistent state until someone actually clicks the button |
| 19:17.51 | Semlar | you're setting the action of the button? |
| 19:19.05 | Semlar | either way i'm going to have to check that it's being set to a number since HasAction throws an error on a string |
| 19:19.53 | End_ | I poked around a little in FrameXML and it seems like a good way to cause blizzard's code to throw errors too, if the button was ever pressed or dragged onto |
| 19:20.19 | End_ | it's "okay" as long as it isn't used (or someone like Semlar decides to poke around everywhere at once) |
| 19:20.44 | Semlar | HOOK ALL THE THINGS |
| 19:20.45 | foxlit | are we even talking about the default action bars, or just arbitrary SABT-inheriting buttons? |
| 19:21.06 | Semlar | this is to hook action buttons created by other addons |
| 19:21.24 | End_ | I assume anything that sets "type" to "action" |
| 19:21.34 | End_ | so SABT inheiriting yes |
| 19:21.36 | Semlar | my addon needs to be aware of any action buttons that get created after it initializes |
| 19:21.52 | End_ | although |
| 19:22.05 | foxlit | does it work with OPie yet, Semlar? :) |
| 19:22.13 | Semlar | it's better that it doesn't |
| 19:22.21 | Semlar | opie has its own cooldown display |
| 19:22.23 | End_ | I guess it could not inherit from SABT and set action to anything it damn well pleases |
| 19:22.42 | End_ | oh, what's wrong with OmniCC? |
| 19:22.47 | Semlar | omnicc doesn't do what my addon does |
| 19:22.53 | End_ | I guess I don't know what your addon does |
| 19:22.58 | Semlar | this isn't just for putting numbers on cooldown spinners |
| 19:23.12 | End_ | I also don't remember what sort of cooldown display opie has |
| 19:23.16 | Semlar | this actually needs to know what skill the action button is for |
| 19:23.41 | Semlar | it calculates how much time is left before you can use an ability that doesn't actually have a cooldown |
| 19:23.56 | Semlar | like ones that use energy and you don't have enough energy to use them |
| 19:24.01 | End_ | oh I see |
| 19:25.34 | foxlit | "Semlar: opie has its own cooldown display" << but what if I want to know how long until I have the energy to cast Swipe? :( |
| 19:26.29 | Semlar | then you're screwed |
| 19:26.38 | foxlit | [monk aoe is so much more pleasant in that regard -- you just channel spinning crane kick forever, while swipe is a hit-twice-and-wait-an-eternity-to-recharge ability.] |
| 19:26.56 | Stanzilla | indeed |
| 19:26.58 | foxlit | unacceptable, Semlar. Hook more things until it works. |
| 19:26.59 | Semlar | slot and type(slot) == 'number' and HasAction(slot) oh god |
| 19:27.00 | Stanzilla | also when new opie release, foxlit |
| 19:27.06 | Semlar | i will hook more things |
| 19:27.08 | Semlar | you can't stop me |
| 19:27.29 | Semlar | i hooked every global function and had it output to the event trace frame once |
| 19:27.34 | End_ | he's an unstoppable hooker |
| 19:27.36 | End_ | er..wait |
| 19:27.38 | Semlar | it froze the game |
| 19:27.42 | Eridius | haha |
| 19:28.15 | End_ | did that include print and debugstack |
| 19:28.21 | Semlar | maybe |
| 19:28.22 | foxlit | clever evil trick #42: recursively call yourself until you're /almost/ out of stack space. If anyone hooks you, crash! |
| 19:28.26 | End_ | oh to the event trace frame |
| 19:28.29 | Semlar | i'm pretty sure i avoided it becoming an infinite loop |
| 19:28.35 | End_ | well did that just include debugstack then |
| 19:29.06 | End_ | it does fun things if you run out of stack in C land |
| 19:29.22 | End_ | it kept asking me to insert into my dvd drive once |
| 19:29.47 | zenzelezz | o_O |
| 19:30.31 | End_ | in my case I was processing tooltip info in an OnTooltipSetItem call, and then setting the next item in the queue |
| 19:30.51 | End_ | it worked fine if it didn't have the info on hand already |
| 19:31.43 | Semlar | if attribute ~= 'action' or not slot or type(slot) ~= 'number' or not HasAction(slot) |
| 19:32.02 | Semlar | well it's not throwing errors problem solved forever |
| 19:32.40 | Semlar | release! |
| 19:32.58 | Torhal | Semlar: You can get rid of "or not slot" because in that case type(slot) will return "nil" |
| 19:33.17 | Semlar | are you sure, i tried doing type() in game and it was not happy |
| 19:33.17 | Torhal | Though not slot is quicker. |
| 19:33.54 | foxlit | Stanzilla: soon. |
| 19:33.57 | Semlar | will it definitely be nil if it's not set? |
| 19:35.06 | foxlit | I'm not even writing code at this point; it's mainly waiting on websites, screenshots, videos and other related nonsense. |
| 19:35.27 | Stanzilla | nice |
| 19:35.40 | End_ | lua> type(nil) |
| 19:35.47 | End_ | !lua type(nil) |
| 19:35.47 | batbot | End_: > nil |
| 19:36.01 | End_ | !lua type(type(nil)) |
| 19:36.02 | batbot | End_: > string |
| 19:36.06 | End_ | :D |
| 19:36.48 | Torhal | lua > type(Semlar) |
| 19:36.55 | Torhal | !lua type(Semlar) |
| 19:36.55 | batbot | Torhal: > nil |
| 19:37.09 | Torhal | jnwhiteh: Poor lua_bot. |
| 19:59.00 | Gnarfoz | Shadowed: why does opening SUF options block the client for 2 seconds or so? |
| 20:00.47 | Shadowed | because SUF probably has the most complex configuration setup in WoW |
| 20:08.03 | Primer | breser: I really like PB's absorbs. Thing is, some times it gets way out of hand |
| 20:08.36 | Primer | breser: for example, a DK stacked so much absorb that the absorb bar spanned across the next frame and into the one after that |
| 20:10.48 | Gnarfoz | Shadowed: and in AddonProfiler, is "avg/sec" actually ms/s or ms/frame? I'm having big FPS problems and I'm having a hard time figuring out which addon it is - just want to make sure I'm even looking at the right metric |
| 20:10.56 | Shadowed | I haven't touched that addon in like |
| 20:10.57 | Shadowed | 5 years |
| 20:10.59 | Shadowed | so who knows |
| 20:16.32 | Gnarfoz | nobody, if not you! :D |
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| 20:20.22 | Sharparam | hm |
| 20:20.29 | Sharparam | is there a string match function for utf-8 strings in wow? |
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| 20:23.03 | Shirik | Lua does not know what UTF-8 is |
| 20:23.03 | Maldivia | str:match works fine |
| 20:23.20 | Sharparam | Maldivia: no it does not |
| 20:23.32 | Sharparam | >lua ("Sèrene"):match("%w+") |
| 20:23.38 | Sharparam | bleh |
| 20:23.42 | Sharparam | lua> ("Sèrene"):match("%w+") |
| 20:23.50 | Sharparam | !lua ("Sèrene"):match("%w+") |
| 20:23.51 | batbot | Sharparam: > S |
| 20:23.52 | Shirik | probably the way I would approach it is to use %S instead |
| 20:24.24 | Sharparam | !lua ("Sèrene"):match("%S+") |
| 20:24.24 | Shirik | You MIGHT be able to get away with a frontier pattern |
| 20:24.24 | batbot | Sharparam: > Sèrene |
| 20:24.33 | Shirik | I'd have to think about that one a little bit |
| 20:25.35 | Eridius | you could try matching everything that's not space/control/punctuation |
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| 20:26.00 | Eridius | !lua ("Sèrene"):match("[^%c%p%s%z]+") |
| 20:26.00 | batbot | Eridius: > Sèrene |
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| 20:31.41 | Thunder_Child | ~ping |
| 20:31.41 | purl | ~pong |
| 20:36.24 | Eridius | anyone know if it's safe to use AceGUI-3.0 widgets in a non-AceGUI frame? |
| 20:38.58 | zenzelezz | "safe" in what way? |
| 20:39.08 | Eridius | like, it won't misbehave in any fashion? |
| 20:40.12 | zenzelezz | in any fashion seems a bit optimistic, but I don't know |
| 20:40.50 | Eridius | I want AceGUI for the AceGUI-3.0-SharedMediaWidgets dropdown, but I don't really want a full-fledged AceGUI flow layout |
| 20:45.17 | Eridius | I'm also irked that AceGUI widgets don't have any way to calculate an intrinsic width |
| 20:45.36 | karl_w_w | http://static-1.keithandthegirl.net/Show/Pictures/2JAXIBY21A40UZ97F2TZ-Display.jpg brilliant |
| 20:47.52 | Maldivia | that is sooo bad.... |
| 20:49.57 | Maldivia | guess she was a bit of a .... nevermind |
| 20:50.08 | karl_w_w | http://boingboing.net/2013/03/06/rapefruit-its-whats-for.html |
| 20:52.19 | karl_w_w | good comments on that |
| 20:53.04 | bleeter | lolouch http://forum.ea.com/eaforum/posts/list/9362976.page |
| 20:53.19 | bleeter | some interesting maths there regarding city populations |
| 20:57.56 | karl_w_w | biggest fail since duke nukem forever? |
| 20:59.06 | bleeter | big call, but fair |
| 21:00.46 | Maldivia | ME3 ending? :) |
| 21:01.21 | bleeter | hmmm well at least ME3 was ok until the ending |
| 21:02.13 | zenzelezz | personally I liked almost everything about each ME game - except the endings, which never felt proper |
| 21:02.40 | Maldivia | the thing I hated more about ME3 was Origin |
| 21:04.58 | zenzelezz | well, if you include Origin in the ME experience, then yeah - I agree |
| 21:05.13 | Maldivia | Does iPhone Maps count? considering it was kind of a gamble if you followed its directions? |
| 21:06.01 | bleeter | iPhone Maps in a class of it's own, could be life n death stuff |
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| 21:34.32 | Eridius | note to self: avoid putting `return` outside the function definition or you'll be really confused when the rest of your file doesn't seem to execute |
| 21:35.05 | zenzelezz | that is a good thing to remember |
| 21:35.52 | smcn | yay finally killed oondasta |
| 21:36.26 | zenzelezz | grats |
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| 21:42.46 | kd3 | grr. keep crashing right as I destroy the first infested terran structure |
| 21:45.18 | foxlit | replacing WoL? |
| 21:45.22 | foxlit | s/replacing/replaying/ |
| 21:45.30 | kd3 | nah, just started hots |
| 21:45.57 | foxlit | destroying infested terran structures sounds odd, then. |
| 21:46.10 | kd3 | first mission on char |
| 21:46.22 | kd3 | "Domination" |
| 21:46.32 | foxlit | banelings, yeah? |
| 21:46.35 | kd3 | ya |
| 21:47.20 | Shirik | Eridius: Honestly, it's interesting that that went unnoticed |
| 21:47.29 | Shirik | there's very few contexts in which putting something after "return" is legal |
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| 21:48.13 | Eridius | Shirik: this function was wrapped in a do-end |
| 21:48.21 | Shirik | that would be one of those contexts :) |
| 21:48.22 | Eridius | since I had a local I wanted to capture in the function without polluting the rest of the file |
| 21:48.51 | Shirik | return is only allowed to be the last statement in a block |
| 21:51.29 | Eridius | yeah |
| 21:58.38 | foxlit | hm, I feel like there should be an easy command for "reverse line order" |
| 22:00.27 | Shirik | there is |
| 22:01.04 | foxlit | tail -r is what google told me. |
| 22:01.23 | Shirik | gg:g/^/m0 |
| 22:02.00 | foxlit | "i wish i knew kung-fu" s/kung-fu/vim/ |
| 22:02.42 | Shirik | the only important part of that command is that m0 moves to line 0 (the beginning), and :g/^ matches each line |
| 22:02.49 | Shirik | so "go to each line, and move it to the top" |
| 22:02.57 | foxlit | yeah, but that's not really solving my problem. |
| 22:03.04 | Shirik | it reverses the lines |
| 22:03.09 | foxlit | I only really want to change line order within a selection, not the whole document. |
| 22:03.13 | Shirik | oh |
| 22:03.21 | Shirik | :m,ng/^/m0 |
| 22:03.27 | Shirik | where m and n are line numbers |
| 22:03.38 | Torhal | sends Shirik to decipher the Dead Sea Scrolls. |
| 22:03.49 | Shirik | wait |
| 22:03.50 | Shirik | don't do m0 |
| 22:04.02 | Shirik | 0 needs to be whatever line you started at minus 1 |
| 22:04.10 | Shirik | so if m is 10 then it should be m9 |
| 22:04.33 | foxlit | having to specify line numbers sounds inconvinient. |
| 22:05.47 | Ackis | I installed ubuntu and now I want to get rid of it... is it as simple as getting the boot manager back to the windows one and just formatting the hard drive? |
| 22:06.37 | Shirik | I believe you could also go to visual line mode and execute :g there |
| 22:06.45 | Shirik | never tried g in visual line mode |
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| 22:15.26 | Shirik | so foxlit |
| 22:15.54 | Shirik | my Linux box has a command `tac` |
| 22:15.58 | Shirik | which apparently is backwards `cat` |
| 22:16.20 | foxlit | my osx box's tail accepts -r; there is no tac. |
| 22:16.38 | foxlit | but that's just bsd vs gnu for you. |
| 22:29.17 | Shirik | tail: invalid option -- 'r' |
| 22:29.20 | Shirik | :< |
| 22:30.36 | Dagmar | ackis: Generally fdisk /mbr will reset the bootstrap |
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| 22:45.54 | Ackis | Torhal: did you ever update your pet addon? |
| 22:48.19 | astoo | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:48.48 | Torhal | Ackis: Not yet. |
| 22:49.01 | Semlar|Laptop | i'm pretty sure you can't change the loading screens |
| 22:49.07 | astoo | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:49.13 | Semlar|Laptop | you might be able to override the images by dropping it into the path in the directory though |
| 22:49.48 | Semlar|Laptop | it wouldn't be through an addon |
| 22:49.55 | astoo | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:50.04 | astoo | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:50.04 | Semlar|Laptop | the images are stored in the mpq files |
| 22:50.14 | Semlar|Laptop | the game client looks in the warcraft directory first |
| 22:50.31 | Semlar|Laptop | so if you build the same directory structure you can actually replace them |
| 22:50.55 | astoo | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:50.59 | Semlar|Laptop | no |
| 22:51.15 | Semlar|Laptop | you just need to create some folders in your warcraft directory |
| 22:51.18 | astoo | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:51.30 | Semlar|Laptop | i don't know the path to the loading screens off the top of my head |
| 22:51.32 | astoo | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:51.46 | Semlar|Laptop | i know they're in a dbc file i could check |
| 22:51.46 | astoo | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:52.01 | astoo | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:52.08 | astoo | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:53.09 | astoo | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:53.11 | Semlar|Laptop | it's interface/glues/loadingscreens/nameOfTheImage |
| 22:53.20 | astoo | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:53.27 | astoo | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:53.31 | astoo | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:53.40 | astoo | <3 |
| 22:53.52 | Semlar|Laptop | you have to create that file path |
| 22:54.13 | astoo | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:54.30 | Semlar|Laptop | they're in loadingscreens.dbc |
| 22:54.34 | astoo | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:54.37 | astoo | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:54.39 | astoo | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:54.52 | Semlar|Laptop | do you want to know one in particular because i'm not typing all of these out |
| 22:55.10 | astoo | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:55.16 | Semlar|Laptop | no |
| 22:55.22 | astoo | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:55.32 | astoo | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:55.59 | astoo | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:56.09 | astoo | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:56.13 | Semlar|Laptop | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showpost.php?p=259205&postcount=63 this has them |
| 22:56.23 | astoo | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:56.30 | astoo | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:56.42 | astoo | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:56.43 | Semlar|Laptop | the file needs to be a targa |
| 22:56.56 | astoo | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:56.59 | astoo | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:56.59 | Semlar|Laptop | tga |
| 22:57.03 | astoo | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:57.11 | astoo | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:57.36 | Semlar|Laptop | or a blp but you need some converter |
| 22:57.55 | Semlar|Laptop | there should be png to blp or tga converters somewhere |
| 22:58.03 | astoo | <PROTECTED> |
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| 22:58.31 | Semlar|Laptop | i don't remember if "interface" is part of the file path or not |
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| 22:59.11 | Semlar|Laptop | but you would do something like create a folder called "Interface" in your warcraft directory, and under that a Glues folder and under that a LOADINGSCREENS folder and i doubt the case matters |
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| 23:14.20 | Semlar | i tried to replace a loading screen with a blank file and couldn't get it to work so your mileage may vary |
| 23:16.53 | Semlar | i have replaced other interface images using this technique so it's possible them being in a dbc file is preventing it |
| 23:27.38 | Semlar | i'm not going to suggest replacing the original files inside the mpq because i'm not sure if that's really allowed or not |
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| 23:44.34 | astoo | Semlar , ah, no i coudln't get it to work either. Converted image to tga and had that directory structure, but still loads the default. I also played around with the names, caling it filename.blp but that doesn't work either. |
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| 23:46.10 | Semlar | the loading screens are inside of interface.mpq i think |
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| 23:48.46 | Adys | is there a way to get battlepet name by id? |
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| 23:49.24 | foxlit | yes. |
| 23:49.26 | Semlar | C_PetJournal.GetPetInfoByIndex |
| 23:49.31 | Adys | by id |
| 23:49.33 | Adys | not by index |
| 23:49.50 | Semlar | pet id? |
| 23:49.55 | Adys | pet id |
| 23:49.57 | Semlar | species id? |
| 23:50.10 | Adys | why would you get *pet* name from *species* id? |
| 23:51.40 | Adys | foxlit: wanna be more helpful than "yes"? |
| 23:51.52 | Semlar | i don't know you're being kind of a dick |
| 23:52.41 | foxlit | Adys: http://www.wowpedia.org/API_C_PetJournal.GetPetInfoByPetID |
| 23:52.59 | Adys | Semlar: I'm trying to think of something witty to say but you just told me you want to get pet name from species id. |
| 23:53.25 | Semlar | "Adysis there a way to get battlepet name by id?" |
| 23:53.39 | Adys | whats not clear about that |
| 23:54.03 | Adys | foxlit: hm, am I doing something wrong? /dump C_PetJournal.GetPetInfoByPetID(497) errors out |
| 23:54.08 | Semlar | id is vague, but i'm assuming you know that |
| 23:54.17 | Semlar | and that's just a rhetorical question |
| 23:54.36 | foxlit | Adys: what's 497 supposed to be? Battle pets you own are identified by guids. |
| 23:54.41 | Adys | ah |
| 23:54.51 | Adys | fuck, you need an actual existing pet? |
| 23:55.17 | Adys | this sucks =\ |
| 23:56.04 | foxlit | No, I don't think you do. Are you sure your ID number is not a species ID? |
| 23:56.17 | Adys | im getting the id from link |
| 23:56.24 | Adys | Tainted Cockroach |
| 23:56.27 | Adys | battlepet:497 |
| 23:57.35 | foxlit | it would make sense for that to be a species id, since nobody else would know what to do with your guid. |
| 23:57.44 | foxlit | try http://www.wowpedia.org/API_C_PetJournal.GetPetInfoBySpeciesID |
| 23:58.16 | Adys | no the guid was what i was looking for |
| 23:58.17 | Adys | but meh |
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