| 00:00.37 | Semlar | in fact it might be easier to just recreate the whole thing |
| 00:00.49 | Semlar | and just unregister all of its events |
| 00:02.46 | Semlar | basically i want to intercept all of the icons that addons place on the map and put them on mine |
| 00:03.27 | Semlar | i experimented with hooking setpoint but that seemed like a really bad way to do it |
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| 00:06.31 | Semlar | and it's unfortunately not as simple as just pulling the frame out of the world map that they're attached to |
| 00:07.27 | Semlar | i need to be able to actually separate them |
| 00:15.14 | mikma | http://imgur.com/gallery/Z9p0O4R |
| 00:29.46 | Eridius | mikma: that's... not a photobomb... |
| 00:29.53 | Eridius | oh xavier. I'm a dumb |
| 00:30.00 | Eridius | I read the text, and somehow thought wolverine was the photobomb |
| 00:36.25 | smcn | so it would appear you can loot as many troves of the thunder king as you can find as long as you don't leave the subzone you found the first one in |
| 00:43.30 | p3lim | Any of you happen to know C++? |
| 00:44.13 | Eridius | sure |
| 00:44.55 | Eridius | p3lim: what's your question? |
| 00:48.52 | p3lim | I've been using AutoHotKey for swapping the default audio source in windows, and I'd like something a bit more native |
| 00:49.05 | Eridius | that doesn't sound like a C++ question |
| 00:51.12 | p3lim | Well from what I heard is that C++ and C# are the most common languages programs on windows are written in |
| 00:53.06 | Primer | If it ain't broke...? |
| 00:54.44 | Primer | Consider you're doing this for audio...how exactly does swapping audio source work? |
| 00:55.05 | Primer | Because I wish my audio would switch from 5.1 to stereo when I plug in my headphones |
| 00:55.25 | Primer | which my sound card detects just fine...it stops output to the speakers, but it's still 5.1 |
| 00:55.30 | p3lim | Basically I have my speakers connected one way, and my headset another, and I use small script to swap between them using a hotkey |
| 00:55.47 | Primer | so I can't hear things like NPCs unless I turn one "ear" to them |
| 00:56.04 | Primer | So separate sounds cards? |
| 00:56.10 | p3lim | Nope |
| 00:56.20 | p3lim | And I also have 5.1 speakers, never had that issue though |
| 00:56.36 | Primer | Is it set to 5.1? |
| 00:56.43 | p3lim | Ofcourse |
| 00:56.50 | Primer | Because windows LOVES setting that back to stereo without telling you |
| 00:56.56 | Primer | indulge me, please, and check |
| 00:56.59 | p3lim | When I swap to my headset it is always 2.0 |
| 00:57.09 | p3lim | And back to 5.1 on my speakers |
| 00:57.19 | p3lim | I never change those settings, I simply change which output to use |
| 00:57.26 | Primer | what card? |
| 00:57.33 | p3lim | On-board |
| 00:57.47 | Primer | that's what I have...some realtek IIRC |
| 00:57.48 | p3lim | Just front and back connectors |
| 00:58.03 | Primer | err except for 5.1 you need back |
| 00:58.06 | p3lim | I have one of those fancy motherboards with a proper soundcard |
| 00:58.20 | p3lim | Well, yeah, that's why I have my headset connected in the front |
| 00:59.04 | Primer | Ok, so let's recap. You have 5.1 speakers plugged into the 3 motherboard 1/8th" jacks? |
| 00:59.25 | Primer | And your headphones plugged into the case's headphone jack, which is connected to the MB inside? |
| 00:59.34 | Primer | That's how mine's connected at home |
| 00:59.38 | p3lim | Correct |
| 00:59.56 | Primer | So how do you toggle between them? |
| 01:00.04 | p3lim | I press F7 |
| 01:00.09 | Primer | sigh |
| 01:00.13 | p3lim | :D |
| 01:00.14 | Primer | I mean, for realy |
| 01:00.15 | Primer | real |
| 01:00.24 | Primer | what runs when you press F7? |
| 01:00.29 | Primer | AutoHotKey...yes... |
| 01:00.34 | Primer | but what does IT do? |
| 01:00.58 | p3lim | Sound options, playback, rightclick the right device and select "Set as default device" |
| 01:01.04 | Primer | ugh, really? |
| 01:01.09 | p3lim | That's it |
| 01:01.16 | Primer | so you have to wait til those dialogs come up, etc...? |
| 01:01.24 | p3lim | No, nothing ever shows up |
| 01:02.26 | Primer | I presume you followed some sort of guide? I've looked for ways of doing this, but never found anything that didn't involve jumping through bunch of hoops |
| 01:02.41 | p3lim | Just mindless googling |
| 01:03.02 | p3lim | Found a couple that worked for windows xp, ported it to windows 7 |
| 01:03.19 | Primer | Your keyboard has media keys, right? |
| 01:03.23 | p3lim | Nope |
| 01:03.25 | Primer | I recall when I tried this... |
| 01:03.28 | Primer | err really? |
| 01:03.50 | Primer | Anyhow, I recall AutoHotKey can't use media keys in windows |
| 01:04.03 | Primer | which was another roadblock to me getting this done |
| 01:04.12 | Primer | because believe it or not, I use F7 in wow |
| 01:04.49 | p3lim | http://www.keyboardco.com/keyboard_details.asp?PRODUCT=987 |
| 01:04.52 | p3lim | Got that one |
| 01:05.09 | Primer | I can't use non-ergonomic keyboards |
| 01:05.15 | Primer | I get mad carpal tunnel |
| 01:06.14 | p3lim | Anyways, you need something that just swaps audio sources? |
| 01:06.18 | p3lim | Kinda like what I use |
| 01:07.00 | Primer | Presuming the driver allows it |
| 01:07.06 | p3lim | http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1656534 |
| 01:08.03 | Primer | Yeah, that dialog shows a USB headset and a sound card |
| 01:08.26 | Primer | my headphones (Sennheisers) plug into the headphone jack of the card that also drives the 5.1 speakers |
| 01:08.40 | p3lim | I don't know, works fine for me |
| 01:09.02 | Primer | So just to confirm, you do NOT use a USB headphone? It's using the same sound card as the 5.1 speakers? |
| 01:09.34 | Primer | I don't think my headphones show up as a separate device when I plug them in |
| 01:09.44 | p3lim | Yup |
| 01:09.58 | p3lim | One sec |
| 01:10.03 | Primer | The software knows when I plug them in though, and it's configured to cut audio to the speakers when that happens |
| 01:11.11 | p3lim | I've got everything always connected |
| 01:12.17 | Primer | that's what I want |
| 01:12.39 | p3lim | You've got a 3rd-party soundcard? |
| 01:13.19 | Primer | on board |
| 01:13.31 | p3lim | Try getting a proper card |
| 01:13.47 | Primer | VIA High Definition Audio |
| 01:13.59 | Primer | err I thought you said you did this with your on board card |
| 01:14.23 | p3lim | My motherboard has X-Fi on-board :) |
| 01:14.28 | Primer | bah |
| 01:14.31 | Primer | NOW he tells me |
| 01:14.36 | p3lim | I already did |
| 01:14.50 | p3lim | 01:58 <p3lim> I have one of those fancy motherboards with a proper soundcard |
| 01:15.21 | Primer | I've never liked on board sound |
| 01:15.34 | Primer | but I had to resort to it when my old ass audigy 4 died |
| 01:15.41 | p3lim | Me neither, which is one of the reasons I got this particular motherboard |
| 01:15.57 | Primer | I don't think the motherboard I have now even has a PCI slot |
| 01:16.04 | Primer | what make/model? |
| 01:16.53 | p3lim | Asus Maximus IV Gene-Z |
| 01:17.10 | p3lim | http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/MAXIMUS_IV_GENEZGEN3/ |
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| 01:20.14 | Primer | well, luckily I can just go buy an external X-fi |
| 01:20.33 | Primer | My last MB, an asus, never worked well from day one |
| 01:20.34 | p3lim | Whole point of having slots for just that :) |
| 01:20.53 | Primer | 4 mem slots, bought 16g (4x4). Was only ever able to use 8g |
| 01:21.12 | p3lim | Then you did something wrong |
| 01:21.22 | p3lim | Got 4x4 aswell, never had any issue |
| 01:21.22 | Primer | yeah, I put the other 2 sticks of ram in |
| 01:21.27 | p3lim | Even clocked them a bit |
| 01:21.43 | Primer | yeah man, I've been putting together machines for a long time |
| 01:21.48 | Primer | I know what I'm doing |
| 01:22.06 | p3lim | Not saying you don't, but somewhere you did something wrong :p |
| 01:22.22 | Primer | If you count buying a defective motherboard, then yes, I did |
| 01:22.25 | Primer | otherwise, no |
| 01:22.33 | Primer | I checked the pins, none were bent |
| 01:22.38 | p3lim | Unlucky then I guess |
| 01:22.50 | Primer | mem in one pair of slots worked, swap to the other pair, it'd work...all 4...nope |
| 01:22.54 | p3lim | Had 3 asus boards, never buying anything else |
| 01:23.01 | Primer | would crash withing minutes |
| 01:23.07 | Primer | within, even |
| 01:23.19 | Primer | and it wasn't drivers...it'd crash Linux too |
| 01:23.37 | Primer | I RMA'd the memory like 3 times too |
| 01:23.42 | Primer | 3 different pairs |
| 01:24.06 | Primer | I'm hoping this replacement board will work well. All I need is a CPU for it, as I have everything else |
| 01:24.28 | Primer | Not sure what to get though. Still shopping for the best bang for the buck |
| 01:24.34 | Primer | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115092 |
| 01:24.36 | Primer | thinking that |
| 01:24.50 | Primer | $130 Intel Core i3-2130 Sandy Bridge 3.4GHz LGA 1155 |
| 01:25.00 | p3lim | Why an i3? |
| 01:25.09 | Primer | because it's cheap and it's for my kids |
| 01:26.11 | Primer | It'd be replacing a c2d that's like 6-7 years old |
| 01:26.38 | p3lim | Still rocking my 2600K :] |
| 01:26.53 | Primer | How well does it game? heh |
| 01:27.30 | p3lim | That plus a 570 can run most games (except for crysis3) on ultra at reasonable values |
| 01:27.36 | p3lim | Though overclocked |
| 01:27.43 | Primer | Anyhow, if you have any suggestions for CPUs, I'm listening |
| 01:27.56 | Primer | I'd also like to get them a SSD |
| 01:28.03 | p3lim | All depends on what usage |
| 01:28.12 | Primer | it's AMAZING the performance boost you get from an SSD |
| 01:28.17 | Primer | well, load times |
| 01:28.29 | Primer | They're now really into minecraft |
| 01:29.09 | p3lim | Got a Corsair Force 3 180gb myself |
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| 01:29.35 | p3lim | They go for around $120 here |
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| 01:30.00 | p3lim | Actually, they are on sale right now for that price :o |
| 01:30.02 | Primer | hrmm, i5 ivy bridge is just $50 more |
| 01:30.07 | mikma | raspberry pi, lol |
| 01:30.34 | Primer | I have one of those |
| 01:30.48 | Primer | it's my "security camera" client |
| 01:31.03 | p3lim | I'd say the i5-3330, good value for the power |
| 01:31.04 | Primer | so I can watch my live security cam stream on my TV |
| 01:31.08 | mikma | it can run mc xD |
| 01:31.20 | p3lim | power for the value rather |
| 01:31.24 | Primer | I know, I've already tried it |
| 01:31.29 | Primer | but it's SOOO underpowered |
| 01:31.44 | p3lim | Again, depends on what usage |
| 01:31.44 | mikma | i bought i5 3750 today |
| 01:31.45 | Primer | plus it requires X |
| 01:31.57 | p3lim | You mean 3570 mikma? |
| 01:32.00 | Primer | It'd be much nicer if it didn't, but I can understand why |
| 01:32.27 | mikma | p3lim: dunno, its so new i don't even know. lololo |
| 01:32.30 | p3lim | :p |
| 01:32.50 | p3lim | 3750 doesn't exist, 3570 has two models, the normal one and the "K" one (which is unlocked) |
| 01:34.55 | Ackis | I need help from a prot pally |
| 01:35.01 | Ackis | I'm looking for an ability that is a hand held with an open palm facing upward, with holy light coming out of it |
| 01:35.26 | mikma | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:35.30 | mikma | apparently |
| 01:35.37 | p3lim | Depends on the race Ackis :p |
| 01:35.46 | Ackis | p3lim: human :P |
| 01:35.57 | kd3 | I like my 3570k |
| 01:36.05 | p3lim | Nice one mikma |
| 01:36.06 | kd3 | I just need a better graphics card now |
| 01:36.14 | p3lim | Titan :o |
| 01:36.20 | Ackis | oh it's sacred shield! :D |
| 01:36.26 | mikma | ackis: no |
| 01:36.40 | mikma | ackis: wait... |
| 01:36.52 | mikma | oh yeah, prot |
| 01:36.52 | p3lim | I'm going ITX with my next build |
| 01:36.54 | mikma | nvm |
| 01:37.01 | p3lim | Never had the need for all those expansion slots anwyays |
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| 01:43.39 | kd3 | oh wow. they've preemptively changed nalak to have a completely shared tap (not just tap-to-faction) |
| 01:47.51 | Mr_Rabies | we just dropped oondasta |
| 01:47.52 | Mr_Rabies | interesting |
| 01:47.58 | Mr_Rabies | i didn't know our realm had that many people |
| 01:48.02 | Mr_Rabies | we had like, 5ish 40 mans |
| 01:49.44 | TC-work1 | "Pfft, you kids nowadays have it so easy, why back in my day[...]" |
| 01:51.33 | Primer | Mr_Rabies: interesting, I did just now too |
| 01:51.43 | Primer | Mr_Rabies: I'm guessing you're NOT on Frostmourne Oceanic? :) |
| 01:51.49 | Mr_Rabies | nah, Llane US |
| 01:51.49 | Primer | because that's a high pop server |
| 01:52.04 | bleeter | are any oceanics not high pop? |
| 01:52.10 | Primer | dunno |
| 01:52.19 | Primer | I'm actually in Los Angeles, but I raid late at night |
| 01:52.29 | Primer | One advantage of Frostmourne is that it's in LA too |
| 01:52.36 | Primer | 9ms world/home all day, every day |
| 01:53.31 | Primer | 2x [ADDON_ACTION_BLOCKED] AddOn "Mapster" tried to call the protected function "CompactRaidFrame34:Show()". |
| 01:53.38 | Primer | So shit like that is still a false positive? |
| 01:54.42 | bleeter | TC-work1++ |
| 01:57.29 | TC-work | ... |
| 01:57.42 | TC-work | This whole time I have been seeing myself as TC-work |
| 01:57.45 | TC-work | the. fuck. |
| 02:03.36 | Iriel | TC-work: Even your IRC client is conspiring against you |
| 02:04.25 | TC-work | Iriel: Well it is pidgin, so I suppose that's understandable. |
| 02:04.29 | kd3 | oh wow... it's been four years since SpaceBat |
| 02:10.13 | Ackis | some cool ideas: http://wow.joystiq.com/2013/03/15/wow-archivist-11-moments-from-wows-history-that-should-become/ |
| 02:10.36 | bleeter | TC-work, Iriel: well even us pidgin hackers don't use pidgin for irc so :P |
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| 02:11.32 | TC-work | bleeter: Well, linux and work and I don't like irssi |
| 02:11.47 | TC-work | And pidgin is installed for work so meh |
| 02:12.12 | bleeter | don't like irssi? REBEL SCUM AND PART OF THE ALLIANCE! |
| 02:12.41 | bleeter | tbh I do seem to recall something about an IRC bug about nicks ... |
| 02:13.14 | bleeter | hmm no maybe that was MUCs and folks with . in their nick |
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| 02:16.27 | TC-work | huh, I guess i can do quassel on linux |
| 02:20.04 | TC-work | or not, stupid libs |
| 02:29.23 | tem | heart of the swarm credit are seriously like 30 minutes long |
| 02:29.25 | tem | what the hell |
| 02:29.39 | tem | it's started repeating art |
| 02:30.35 | tem | oh god the music stopped |
| 02:30.40 | tem | and it's still going |
| 02:30.59 | tem | seriously? listing every single customer support rep? |
| 02:31.07 | foxlit | "and we'd like to thank all our cats, by name..." |
| 02:31.08 | Iriel | Why not? |
| 02:31.18 | Iriel | Disk space is cheap, and they deserve a bit of recognition |
| 02:31.40 | tem | well do me this favor then, confirm that there's no achievement for sitting through all the credits |
| 02:34.52 | tem | oh wow there's GNU GPL stuff too |
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| 03:16.52 | Adys | anyone knows how to set a battlepet/battlepetabil hyperlink to GameTooltip? |
| 03:16.54 | Adys | Iriel? |
| 03:17.05 | Semlar | SetHyperlink? |
| 03:17.17 | Iriel | Adys: no idea |
| 03:17.21 | Adys | Semlar: doesnt work |
| 03:17.25 | Semlar | IMPOSSIBLE |
| 03:17.41 | Adys | Semlar: it says unknown link type |
| 03:17.46 | Eridius | Adys: yeah, give me a second. I knew at one point |
| 03:18.05 | Eridius | BattlePetToolTip_Show |
| 03:18.10 | Eridius | you give it all the battlepet stats as args |
| 03:18.15 | Adys | erm |
| 03:18.17 | Eridius | BattlePetToolTip_Show(speciesID, level, breedQuality, maxHealth, power, speed, name) |
| 03:18.19 | Adys | i want battlepetabils too |
| 03:18.30 | Eridius | oh I haven't run into that one before |
| 03:19.15 | Eridius | maybe FloatingPetBattleAbility_Show()? |
| 03:19.17 | smcn | PetTracker does a lot of stuff with pet battles, could look for it in there |
| 03:19.47 | Eridius | I just looked in FrameXML |
| 03:20.29 | Adys | i want to add support for battle pet abils in linkhover basically |
| 03:20.35 | Adys | https://github.com/adys/linkhover |
| 03:21.27 | Adys | but if its gonna quadruple the code size.. |
| 03:22.08 | Semlar | SharedPetBattleAbilityTooltip_SetAbility |
| 03:22.25 | Semlar | i have no idea where this is defined |
| 03:22.30 | Adys | urgh so i have to call a different function for each link type? |
| 03:22.44 | Eridius | it's defined in SharedPetBattleTemplates.lua |
| 03:22.44 | smcn | PetBattleAbilityTooltip_SetAbilityByID also |
| 03:23.19 | Adys | smcn: wont be able to set it to a hover tooltip then =/ |
| 03:24.11 | Semlar | look what you did |
| 03:24.14 | Adys | yeah I'm pissed off too. |
| 03:25.35 | Adys | seriously wtf blizzard |
| 03:25.45 | Adys | they have a great tooltip and a nice SetHyperlink function |
| 03:25.58 | Eridius | Adys: the battlepets and battlepet abilities don't render using GameTooltip |
| 03:26.04 | Eridius | hence GameTooltip:SetHyperlink() wont' work |
| 03:26.05 | Adys | yeah figured |
| 03:26.33 | Eridius | although it would have made sense to update GameTooltip support whatever was necessary to render them |
| 03:26.42 | Adys | exactly |
| 03:29.28 | Seerah | Adys: look at Gello's http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info21986-BattlePetAbilityTooltips.html |
| 03:29.48 | Adys | neat |
| 03:29.50 | Adys | perfect thanks |
| 03:30.37 | Adys | also that's a cool addon |
| 03:30.44 | Seerah | <3 it |
| 03:31.00 | Adys | list of things i didnt know i needed |
| 03:31.37 | Eridius | huh, UNIT_TARGET just fired 17 frames after PLAYER_TARGET_CHANGED. Why the delay? |
| 03:31.57 | Semlar | unit_target fires for way more than just the player |
| 03:31.59 | Stanzilla | doesn't like being watched and tried to piss you off |
| 03:32.02 | Eridius | right but it fired for "player" |
| 03:32.17 | Seerah | 1 of 6 I have for pet battle stuff |
| 03:32.43 | Semlar | i seem to recall unit_target being slower than player_target_changed |
| 03:33.15 | Eridius | I wonder if PLAYER_TARGET_CHANGED fires locally but UNIT_TARGET only fires after talking to the server? |
| 03:33.27 | Semlar | possibly |
| 03:35.49 | Adys | Seerah: i have autosafarihat and battle pet daily tamer |
| 03:36.22 | Eridius | hrm, when in a raid, does UNIT_TARGET only fire once for a given player, or does it fire once per unitid? |
| 03:36.51 | Semlar | unit_target fires every time anything with a unit id changes targets |
| 03:36.52 | Iriel | It should be the latter, otherwise unit frames would be wierd |
| 03:36.57 | Eridius | ok |
| 03:37.17 | Eridius | there's no arbitrary event that lets me know when unitids refer to new things, right? |
| 03:38.02 | Seerah | Adys: ooh, I haven't seen autosafarihat - I need that :p I have the tooltips one, the tamer one, BattlePetCount, BetterBattlePetTooltip (which, actually, is disabled because it does the same as BattlePetCount >.<), PetBattleStone, and PetBattleTeams |
| 03:38.24 | kd3 | UNIT_TARGET? |
| 03:38.34 | kd3 | though that only works for <foo>target |
| 03:38.41 | Eridius | kd3: well that works when a unit targets something. but e.g. what about when a new boss# unit is available? |
| 03:38.52 | Semlar | ah that's different |
| 03:38.56 | Semlar | you could hook something for that |
| 03:39.05 | Iriel | watch the unfiltered combat logs? |
| 03:39.06 | Semlar | i'm not sure what you're doing |
| 03:39.10 | kd3 | the base ui has to handle it, so there's gotta be an event somehow |
| 03:39.23 | Eridius | I'm trying to come up with a tracker that I register GUIDs with and it tells me when I can access them via a unitid, which means I basically need to track all unitids that could refer to enemies |
| 03:39.28 | Adys | Seerah: PetBattleTeams is neat; won't be using it but very neat |
| 03:39.45 | Semlar | okay you're trying to translate a guid into a unit id whenever possible |
| 03:40.04 | Semlar | nameplate addons have to do this |
| 03:40.10 | Eridius | they do? |
| 03:40.14 | kd3 | the boss frames are handled in TargetFrame.lua |
| 03:40.15 | Semlar | well, more or less |
| 03:40.20 | Adys | Seerah: I might grab BattlePetCount |
| 03:40.29 | Eridius | I've never looked at nameplate stuff but I always assumed they were special in that they got access to information for arbitrary units that don't have unitids |
| 03:40.33 | Semlar | recount does it but recount isn't probably worth looking at |
| 03:40.36 | kd3 | "INSTANCE_ENCOUNTER_ENGAGE_UNIT", for instance |
| 03:40.47 | Eridius | kd3: oh that's a good one, thanks |
| 03:41.08 | Seerah | Adys: I have 13 pets at lvl 25 and 8 more still leveling. PetBattleTeams is totally worth it. :) |
| 03:41.22 | Adys | i have 30 or so at 25 atm |
| 03:41.33 | Adys | but i dont really use full teams |
| 03:41.41 | Adys | i level them one at a time in a team of 2 25s |
| 03:41.56 | Seerah | it makes it easier to just swap them in and out. |
| 03:42.08 | Adys | only time i could use teams is when battling beasts of fable |
| 03:42.14 | Adys | but i tend to randomize them out to find the best ones |
| 03:43.03 | Semlar | Eridius: player names are valid unit ids if they're in your group |
| 03:43.22 | Eridius | Semlar: I know, but that's not particularly relevant since I'll be accessing them via party# or raid# |
| 03:43.24 | Adys | Seerah: the kun lai runt demolishes the cricket fable beast |
| 03:43.32 | Adys | like holy shit |
| 03:43.47 | Semlar | well, i didn't know if you were pulling it out of the combat log and needed to match a guid |
| 03:43.56 | Semlar | because the combat log has their name |
| 03:44.00 | Adys | mangle, rampage, thrash * 2-3 and dead |
| 03:44.02 | Eridius | Semlar: ah, no. I have a GUID already and I'm trying to find a unitid for it |
| 03:44.16 | Eridius | Semlar: this is for my storm, earth, and fire tracker. I want to see how feasible it is to try and show target information whenever I can find it |
| 03:44.31 | Semlar | is the guid of a player or a mob |
| 03:44.33 | Seerah | Yeah, mine's just 21 - I haven't gotten around to levelling that one yet. And I worked so hard to get a Fluxfire Feline and now I hear it's nerfed? :( |
| 03:44.35 | Eridius | mob |
| 03:44.41 | Adys | lol |
| 03:44.45 | Eridius | well, enemy. An MC'd player could be a target, but I'll worry about that later |
| 03:44.49 | Adys | flavor of the month is always bad :P |
| 03:44.53 | Seerah | :p |
| 03:45.16 | Adys | kun lai runt and pandaren monk are my two huge DPS pets |
| 03:45.25 | Adys | the monk can one-shot the legendary dragons |
| 03:46.06 | Adys | darkmoon zeppelin used to be useful (because of explode) but its been heavily nerfed too |
| 03:46.19 | Semlar | unit_target should work for tracking mobs |
| 03:46.46 | Mr_Rabies | kun lai runt is ridiculous |
| 03:46.52 | Adys | yeah |
| 03:46.55 | Eridius | Semlar: yeah, it'll work for anything my raid has targeted. But I want to make sure I have the others too, such as bosses and whatnot |
| 03:47.10 | Semlar | well just bosses, nothing else has unit ids |
| 03:47.19 | Eridius | there's arena# but I don't know if I care |
| 03:47.47 | Semlar | i assume you aren't using arena ids to track mobs |
| 03:47.54 | Eridius | I also have to worry about pets. Does UNIT_TARGET work for raid members' pet's target? |
| 03:48.00 | Semlar | yeah |
| 03:48.13 | Eridius | how do unitids work with a hunter's Stampede? |
| 03:48.32 | Eridius | huh, raidpetN? not raidNpet? curious |
| 03:48.38 | Semlar | uh |
| 03:48.48 | Semlar | do they get unit frames? |
| 03:48.54 | Eridius | no clue |
| 03:49.01 | Semlar | i kind of doubt it |
| 03:49.05 | Eridius | I guess I'll ignore that |
| 03:49.28 | Semlar | i'm assuming stampede just summons a bunch of pets that mimic the hunter's pet |
| 03:50.11 | Eridius | actually ability says it summons all the pets to fight your current target. I'll just assume they can't be targeting something I can't access via another unitid already |
| 03:51.18 | Semlar | i wrote an addon that tracked the health of everything i was in combat with and i never had to keep track of guid -> unit id |
| 03:51.28 | Semlar | i just cached the information i needed when it became available |
| 03:51.48 | Eridius | Semlar: I already have a GUID. I need to translate that into a unitid |
| 03:52.02 | Semlar | right.. |
| 03:52.17 | Semlar | but you could just store the information in a table you can access using the guid though |
| 03:52.19 | Eridius | I don't want to track everything in combat, just 0-2 units |
| 03:54.35 | Seerah | Adys: Oh, and I have Sticky Battle Pet Skills, but that's disabled because PetBattleTeams does that now, too. :) |
| 03:54.52 | Adys | what does that do? |
| 03:55.15 | Semlar | makes things sticky |
| 03:55.22 | Adys | I can do that myself |
| 03:55.30 | Adys | ... that didnt come out right |
| 03:55.42 | Seerah | saves what abilities you have selected for each pet so it reapplies them when you switch your pets in/out |
| 03:55.50 | Adys | HOLY SHIT I NEED THAT. |
| 03:56.00 | Seerah | I NO RITE?!?!?! |
| 03:56.17 | Seerah | I was getting so frustrated and annoyed before I found it |
| 03:57.22 | Adys | Im liking gello's addons |
| 03:57.32 | Adys | how do I list all addons by someone on wowi |
| 03:58.08 | Seerah | click on [more] next to his name on the addon page |
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| 03:58.25 | bluworkcow | *gasp* |
| 03:58.32 | bluworkcow | a MysticalOS appears! |
| 03:58.34 | bluworkcow | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:58.35 | Adys | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info22190-Rematch.html |
| 03:58.57 | Adys | Also, while you're leveling a pet you can check 'Keep First Pet' to not swap the first pet. |
| 03:59.04 | Adys | see this is a lot better than petbattleteams :P |
| 03:59.21 | bluworkcow | @Seerah Hi2u |
| 03:59.27 | Seerah | O.O I was just saying that I wish I had written down the combos I finally beat the spirit tamers with! |
| 03:59.36 | Seerah | bluworkcow: hai2u2! :D |
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| 04:02.21 | Adys | Seerah: Im using all of Gello's pet addons |
| 04:02.24 | Adys | that's.. something |
| 04:03.14 | Adys | kd3: have you noticed any increase in gpu temperature lately in wow? |
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| 04:08.43 | bluworkcow | Adys: it cold where you are ? |
| 04:11.00 | bluworkcow | @project Grid |
| 04:11.04 | bluworkcow | :| |
| 04:11.07 | bluworkcow | wrong chan! |
| 04:36.42 | Dagmar | Seerah: Use PetBattleTeams. |
| 04:36.58 | Seerah | I am :p |
| 04:37.00 | Dagmar | I just have a long list of teams, each named after the trainer they're meant to be used against. |
| 04:37.10 | Seerah | Oh, you mean for that. yeah |
| 04:38.11 | Dagmar | The only functionality it might be missing is pre-selecting their abilities before the fight, and it might have gotten that when I wasn't looking for all I know |
| 04:38.42 | Dagmar | I look just spiffy in my green lunberjack shirt and blue overalls. :) |
| 04:39.11 | Dagmar | We need beige safari shirts next |
| 04:39.11 | Seerah | it does save abilities you've selected now, but yeah, if you want different for the spirits you'd need to remember to change that |
| 04:40.28 | Dagmar | I just have a team for each of those guys, too |
| 04:41.01 | Dagmar | I have been limiting my pet battles by taking shots of sake. |
| 04:41.15 | Dagmar | After about 20-30 of them, it starts to matter a bit. heh |
| 04:41.33 | Seerah | hehe |
| 04:41.35 | Dagmar | When I'm hammered, it's time to queue. |
| 04:41.36 | Dagmar | ;) |
| 04:43.20 | Dagmar | Actually, when I'm drunk I just logout and go to bed. |
| 04:48.51 | Eridius | is there any standardized way to show a raid icon, or do I just need to hardcode the texture paths? |
| 04:51.09 | Seerah | GetRaidTargetIndex and SetRaidTargetIconTexture |
| 04:51.51 | Eridius | oh neat, the latter is undocumented. thanks |
| 04:54.16 | Seerah | the documentation is created by us. Feel free to add it to wowpedia if you want. Otherwise, if you can't find what you're looking for, look at the UI source code |
| 04:54.21 | Eridius | :w |
| 04:54.23 | Eridius | oops |
| 04:54.30 | Eridius | Seerah: yeah I know. |
| 04:57.38 | Semlar | DOCUMENTATION IS A CRUTCH |
| 05:00.57 | Dagmar | lol |
| 05:01.16 | Dagmar | Real coders can work out the API from a few coredumps. |
| 05:01.35 | Semlar | real coders just know |
| 05:01.36 | Dagmar | ...and debug by smell. |
| 05:02.24 | bluworkcow | and code by taste. |
| 05:02.30 | Semlar | that's just you |
| 05:02.46 | Semlar | i think you've picked up some code from all that licking you do |
| 05:03.21 | bluworkcow | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:03.30 | Semlar | you don't know where i've been! |
| 05:03.43 | bluworkcow | *burps out a fully debugged combat dps meter in perl. that works with 30 k of memory* |
| 05:04.00 | Semlar | that doesn't sound like me |
| 05:04.06 | Semlar | are you sure it wasn't 30mb |
| 05:04.12 | bluworkcow | LOL |
| 05:04.17 | Dagmar | That's the regexp used to parse the input. |
| 05:04.42 | bluworkcow | ^^ |
| 05:05.04 | Dagmar | I actually wrote one today to parse modsec_audit logs. |
| 05:05.21 | Dagmar | ...just because on Monday I want to show it to one of the other admins, just so I can hear him scream like a little girl. |
| 05:05.33 | Semlar | kinky |
| 05:06.13 | Eridius | damn, UPDATE_MOUSEOVER_UNIT doesn't fire when mousing off? |
| 05:06.19 | Dagmar | It works by loading _the entire log_ and then running the regexp on it over and over. |
| 05:06.38 | Dagmar | He will have good reason to be afraid of it. |
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| 05:07.08 | Dagmar | It's a damn good thing I just roflmurdered all the silly XSS warning messages. |
| 05:07.47 | Dagmar | Loading a 200k file... no big deal. Loading a 2Gb file... LOL |
| 05:09.00 | Thunder_Child | Dagmar: You just said 'roflmurdured.' Please stop killing the english language. |
| 05:09.32 | Dagmar | Trust me if you'd spent time paging through multi-gigabyte logs, you'd understand. |
| 05:09.48 | Dagmar | People send us problem reports that occasionally include the URL |
| 05:10.02 | Dagmar | Dates? Times? These things have no meaning to our users. |
| 05:10.30 | Dagmar | Something had to be done, and I'm not allowed to invoke the Omega protocol to eliminate the primary threat to network stability. |
| 05:10.40 | Dagmar | (eliminate all the users) |
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| 05:12.01 | Dagmar | I really have to get our managers to start _reading_ the change requests I put in. |
| 05:12.19 | Dagmar | They actually approved one to start emailing error_log output to the PHP developers responsible. |
| 05:13.03 | Dagmar | I'm pretty sure there would be some pushback over 60,000 emails a day going out. |
| 05:14.27 | Dagmar | isset is just not in these people's lexicon |
| 05:18.05 | Adys | Google graphics designers have serious fucking issues |
| 05:18.05 | Adys | http://bookofhook.blogspot.co.uk/2013/03/smart-guy-productivity-pitfalls.html |
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| 05:18.05 | Adys | this is the default blogger theme i think now since the "designers were let out of their cage" |
| 05:18.05 | Adys | fucking thing breaks both back AND midclick |
| 05:18.05 | Adys | Screw programming, it's UX that should be taught in schools |
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| 05:18.05 | Dagmar | I think if we were to connect a feedback loop that produces a mild electric shock to their chairs every time they had something spew to error_log we might get somewhere. |
| 05:18.05 | Adys | no this is just because of some bullshit javascript effects |
| 05:18.05 | Dagmar | Ban everything but jquery. |
| 05:18.05 | Adys | i guess it pisses me off more because it's google and they pride themselves so fucking much on UX |
| 05:18.42 | Dagmar | Perhaps make all new devs browse the web using only Lynx for the first six months they're in the job. |
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| 05:56.28 | Eridius | dammit, {skull} looks nearly identical when desaturated |
| 05:57.09 | Semlar | identical to what |
| 05:57.15 | Eridius | to the saturated version |
| 05:57.30 | Eridius | I'm trying to use desaturation to indicate when I have stale data (because I have no unitids for the target) |
| 05:57.46 | Semlar | just set the vertex color |
| 05:57.51 | Eridius | yeah I'm going to try that next |
| 05:57.56 | Semlar | it's white you should be able to make it anything |
| 05:58.25 | Eridius | I just want to dim it |
| 05:58.57 | Semlar | you want to color it grey |
| 05:59.14 | Semlar | like SetVertexColor(0.6,0.6,0.6) or something |
| 05:59.23 | Eridius | yeah that's the plan |
| 05:59.38 | Torhal | beats Semlar with documentation. |
| 05:59.47 | Torhal | You did say it's a crutch... |
| 05:59.50 | Semlar | dies |
| 06:00.00 | Torhal | I believe being beaten with a crutch would be devastating. |
| 06:00.10 | Semlar | especially if you're already crippled |
| 06:00.29 | Eridius | out of curiosity, am I doing a strange thing by using <OnLoad> to define a few functions on my widget template? |
| 06:00.40 | Semlar | probably |
| 06:00.47 | Semlar | it means you're using xml |
| 06:00.52 | Eridius | I needed a template |
| 06:01.02 | Eridius | rather, a virtual frame |
| 06:01.17 | Torhal | Eridius: Lua factories, mang. |
| 06:01.31 | Torhal | It's like a template without the insanity. |
| 06:01.35 | Eridius | heh |
| 06:01.36 | Semlar | yeah why couldn't you make a function that creates the same frame |
| 06:01.55 | Eridius | I suppose I could have. But this is the first time experimenting with XML |
| 06:02.07 | Eridius | seems to actually be a win for loading source files, because I can add new files without quitting and relaunching WoW |
| 06:02.12 | Eridius | but I'm not sure it's worth the verbosity for frames |
| 06:02.23 | Torhal | Or the global pollution! |
| 06:02.24 | Torhal | lol |
| 06:02.43 | Eridius | well in this case I wanted global names, because I have a set number of frames and I wanted to be able to access them with /run |
| 06:02.53 | Eridius | but yeah, usually I avoid globals like the plague |
| 06:03.11 | Eridius | wish I could name frames without giving them globals, so /framestack would show something sane |
| 06:03.13 | Semlar | you could make one global table to access them from |
| 06:03.45 | Semlar | nothing wrong with naming important frames |
| 06:04.09 | Eridius | yeah but I wish I could name unimportant ones ;) |
| 06:04.12 | Semlar | but you really shouldn't need to name very many things |
| 06:04.57 | Semlar | well i mean i guess you can if you want |
| 06:05.03 | Semlar | it's really up to you |
| 06:05.16 | Eridius | I just mean, names are useful when using /framestack to figure out what I'm hovering over. But I usually don't want to pollute the global namespace |
| 06:05.23 | Eridius | so it would be nice if I could give frames a name without the global |
| 06:05.37 | Eridius | but up until now I've always just used unnamed frames to avoid the globals |
| 06:05.59 | Semlar | it's useful IF you need to be able to access that frame |
| 06:06.19 | Eridius | yeah |
| 06:07.02 | Eridius | sigh, I'm sitting here hacking on addons on my girlfriend's birthday. But she's sitting in the other room, drunk, on the couch, petting the cat and singing along to Gangnam STyle |
| 06:07.44 | Semlar | you could be in there doing the same thing |
| 06:08.35 | Eridius | yay, I now have raid icons on my storm, earth, and fire frames |
| 06:08.41 | Eridius | and they dim out when I can't figure out how to access the unitid |
| 06:08.51 | Eridius | next I have to get health bars on the targets |
| 06:10.50 | Eridius | after that I need to figure out if I can use DestroyTotem() from a secure button, and if it works, and if so, I need to convert my frames to secure buttons :/ |
| 06:11.17 | Torhal | wonders when Humbedooh will implement RFC 1149 in WoW. |
| 06:12.04 | bluworkcow | what about the one about tea cups ? |
| 06:13.56 | Eridius | I don't think 1149 is implementable without a WoW<->Pigeon interface |
| 06:21.20 | Torhal | Eridius: Humbedooh will find a way. Hell, he has a fucking SVG library. |
| 06:21.44 | Torhal | Eridius: http://www.wowace.com/addons/libsvg-1-0/ |
| 06:21.59 | bluworkcow | that would need to make sure it meet SPCA standards of interaction as stipulated in Care of Electronics interfaces to Animals 1996 |
| 06:22.20 | Torhal | Bah! |
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| 07:58.30 | Semlar | welp someone using my addon has somehow managed to cause ActionButton1.cooldown to not exist before my addon loads |
| 07:59.02 | bluworkcow | soz |
| 07:59.04 | bluworkcow | i eats it |
| 07:59.09 | bluworkcow | *burp* |
| 07:59.10 | Semlar | DAMMIT BLUWORKCOW |
| 07:59.14 | Semlar | I WAS USING THAT |
| 07:59.39 | Torhal | Semlar: I blame another AddOn. |
| 07:59.44 | Semlar | it has to be |
| 07:59.46 | Semlar | i use this addon |
| 08:00.38 | Semlar | i'm hooking the metatable for the cooldown spinner and i'm just going to go back and have it create a cooldown frame just to hook |
| 08:00.50 | Semlar | i probably shouldn't be relying on it existing anyway |
| 08:02.14 | Semlar | but i have no idea what addon might be removing the cooldown spinner from the action button |
| 08:02.23 | Semlar | i'd kind of like to figure out what it's doing |
| 08:02.27 | Torhal | Probably ElvUI. |
| 08:02.46 | Torhal | They do some evil shit, like removing the backdrop for GameTooltip and making their own AS A CHILD FRAME. |
| 08:02.47 | Semlar | is that just part of reskinning everything |
| 08:02.57 | Semlar | lol |
| 08:03.35 | Torhal | So anything relying on GameTooltip's backdrop is fucked. |
| 08:03.56 | Semlar | well how important could that be |
| 08:04.30 | Torhal | LibQTip uses it, since most normal tooltip AddOns modify it instead of setting it to nil and making a completely separate fucking frame for it. |
| 08:04.38 | Semlar | i guess i might as well create an action button to hook while i'm at it |
| 08:04.44 | Torhal | So does the spell tooltip for Ackis Recipe List. |
| 08:05.00 | Stanzilla | LibQTip sucks |
| 08:05.11 | Torhal | I'm sure there are others that want to maintain the look of the tooltip based on what the user has installed. |
| 08:05.22 | Torhal | kickbans Stanzilla on #IRL |
| 08:05.31 | Stanzilla | no werk |
| 08:08.14 | Torhal | summons bluworkcow to do battle with the evil Stanzilla. |
| 08:10.42 | Semlar | getmetatable(CreateFrame('cooldown')) i feel terrible about this |
| 08:11.13 | Semlar | i'm making a frame that just never gets used for anything but this |
| 08:11.44 | Torhal | Bah. |
| 08:12.41 | Semlar | are there class trainers in shattrath? |
| 08:13.52 | Semlar | apparently there are |
| 08:14.00 | Torhal | There are |
| 08:14.11 | Semlar | i didn't know these were here |
| 08:14.13 | Torhal | Scryer's Tier. They're book-cases. |
| 08:14.21 | Torhal | There are also some in the outbuildings there. |
| 08:14.30 | Semlar | they have bookcases for the professions |
| 08:14.34 | Torhal | Oh |
| 08:14.37 | Semlar | but there are like actual class trainers down in the middle |
| 08:14.45 | Torhal | I skipped "class" somehow. |
| 08:14.56 | Semlar | i don't know when these got added |
| 08:15.02 | Semlar | they definitely weren't here when i played |
| 08:17.16 | bluworkcow | *valiently fisticuffs Stanzilla* |
| 08:17.24 | bluworkcow | *forgots to block and counterattack* |
| 08:17.26 | bluworkcow | *dies* |
| 08:28.30 | bluworkcow | *gasp* |
| 08:28.31 | bluworkcow | http://www.dogbehavioronline.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Pomeranian-11.jpg |
| 08:28.42 | bluworkcow | its an Ackis!Puppy |
| 08:31.55 | Mr_Rabies | my aunt has like, ten thousand pomeranians |
| 08:32.06 | Mr_Rabies | i think i'd rather take my chances with a pet crocodile at this point |
| 08:32.14 | Torhal | They make excellent armies, I hear. |
| 08:33.46 | bluworkcow | Had to check the spelling on that for a work request |
| 08:34.05 | bluworkcow | silly CRA Data entry app was flagging the correct spelling as incorrect for some reason |
| 08:34.41 | Torhal | bluworkcow: GIGO |
| 08:35.14 | bluworkcow | https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=287531344690502&set=a.235327749910862.46773.235327603244210&type=1&theater |
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| 09:02.32 | karl_w_w | jesus my fps drops to about 0.2 on the stage 2 daily hub |
| 09:02.43 | karl_w_w | but only when i move |
| 09:11.41 | bluworkcow | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKX8ntjWeas |
| 09:11.50 | bluworkcow | jesus I WAS EVIL |
| 09:16.36 | Fisker | hey bluworkcow |
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| 09:22.19 | bluworkcow | Hey Fisker |
| 09:22.22 | bluworkcow | Hey Jelly |
| 09:23.19 | karl_w_w | yumm, jelly |
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| 13:11.01 | bluspacecow | http://www.fatso.co.nz/Movies/Star_Trek_-_The_Animated_Series/16133 |
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| 13:40.23 | zenzelezz | hm... it's obvious a matter of opinion, but I think the HotS music is much better than the WoL ones |
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| 14:28.28 | Silvanas | does anyone know where the localised names for weapon are stored like dagger, sword, polearm |
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| 14:28.51 | Silvanas | cant seem to find them in GlobalString.lua |
| 14:31.49 | haste | aren't they stored in the WDB files? |
| 14:32.00 | bluspacecow | hey haste |
| 14:32.03 | bluspacecow | not so hey Fisker |
| 14:32.06 | haste | hey bluspacecow |
| 14:32.49 | Dridzt | Silvanas, usually I do the trick with the auction house categories |
| 14:33.00 | Dridzt | sec while I dig through my code to find specifics |
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| 14:41.04 | Dridzt | ok what I did was create a lookup table (once) populated through GetAuctionItemClasses() -> GetAuctionItemSubClasses(itemclass) and used it for further checks |
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| 14:45.26 | Elkano | you could also use GetItemInfo on known ids |
| 14:52.44 | Silvanas | i see. nice tricks :D |
| 15:03.43 | Elkano | via GetItemInfo you'll also know what the translated term stands for, not sure about the auction way |
| 15:13.02 | Maldivia | freshly baked brunsviger, if anyone's interested :P |
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| 15:14.44 | Dridzt | GetItemInfo you'll need to register the event for populating cache |
| 15:15.02 | Dridzt | and auction trick you only need to update your lookup if Blizz adds item categories to the game |
| 15:15.21 | Dridzt | there's pros and cons to either is what I'm saying |
| 15:16.38 | Adys | Silvanas: they're in the DBC files, and are accessible through the API |
| 15:17.41 | Adys | is there an addon that lets you get rid of some specific errors in the error frame (Item is not ready yet etc) |
| 15:18.29 | Dridzt | ErrorFilter is the one I use |
| 15:18.43 | Dridzt | can work in whitelist or blacklist mode |
| 15:19.35 | Dridzt | http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/errorfilter/ |
| 15:20.01 | Adys | Perfect, thank you |
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| 15:31.59 | Stanzilla | molests Adys |
| 15:32.07 | Adys | Calling the cops |
| 15:32.37 | Adys | Dridzt: ErrorFilter is BRILLIANT thank you |
| 15:33.07 | Dridzt | yea one of the first addons I put in :) |
| 15:33.10 | karl_w_w | will errorfilter let me redirect pet battle queue notifications to the chat frame where they should be? |
| 15:33.23 | Adys | what notifications? |
| 15:33.29 | Guest60243 | Adys, hi :) |
| 15:33.36 | Adys | karl_w_w: and yes it will |
| 15:33.46 | karl_w_w | nice |
| 15:33.56 | karl_w_w | like "you have queued for" |
| 15:34.00 | karl_w_w | etc |
| 15:34.15 | Adys | karl_w_w: there's an "output" section |
| 15:34.20 | Adys | so you can use it to redir |
| 15:34.33 | karl_w_w | installs |
| 15:35.36 | Adys | you can redirect to scrolling text |
| 15:35.44 | Adys | this is really neat |
| 15:37.11 | karl_w_w | yes it will help with organisation |
| 15:40.19 | Silvanas | blizzard should add a way to tooltip scan items in english rather then the current client setting :D |
| 15:49.21 | VIad | :) |
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| 15:52.02 | Maldivia | Silvanas: why do you want to tooltip scan items - what info are you after? |
| 16:06.31 | Silvanas | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:06.43 | Silvanas | and if it has hit or exp or parry or dodge or spirit |
| 16:06.57 | Silvanas | so that i can classify the item for DKP auctions |
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| 16:08.12 | Silvanas | but those strings are avaiable in GlobalString.lua its the armor\weapon type to see who can or cant use it that is not avaible. however i can get from the AH i |
| 16:09.50 | Elkano | Silvanas, there is API to get the stats of an item |
| 16:10.14 | VIad | only tooltip scan |
| 16:10.18 | Elkano | ~api GetItemStats |
| 16:10.18 | purl | !api GetItemStats |
| 16:10.34 | Elkano | thx, purl, didn't help though :( |
| 16:10.43 | Maldivia | http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetItemStats :) |
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| 16:11.05 | Elkano | I use it in ItemDB as advanced filter ^^ |
| 16:11.07 | VIad | ye but there was some limitation to it that I can't remember atm |
| 16:11.32 | Adys | nevcairiel: you planning to update quartz to replace the TimerTracker bar? (with mirror i suppose |
| 16:13.03 | Adys | in fact mirror already has a game start tracker but it uses chat msgs not the bar |
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| 16:40.34 | nevcairiel | possibly, if you tell me where i can activate it |
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| 16:59.36 | Thunder_Child | Thats interesting, I used to be able to launch the launchers for SC2, Wow, and D3 all at once |
| 16:59.45 | Thunder_Child | now SC2 and D3, wont launch at the same time |
| 17:02.32 | VIad | Thunder_Child: it's true |
| 17:02.47 | VIad | I guess that happens when using the same environment to launch separate games? :D |
| 17:02.53 | VIad | agent.exe something? |
| 17:03.35 | bluspacecow | been that way for a while. |
| 17:03.41 | Thunder_Child | not for me |
| 17:03.42 | bluspacecow | rememeber it being metjoned here months ago |
| 17:03.48 | nevcairiel | yea wow and d3 havent worked for a while now |
| 17:03.52 | Thunder_Child | I was able to do it just before the sc2 xpac |
| 17:04.01 | nevcairiel | no idea about sc2 |
| 17:04.36 | Thunder_Child | I can have either and wow open at the same time |
| 17:04.42 | Thunder_Child | but not sc2 and d3 |
| 17:05.25 | Thunder_Child | nvm, If i launch sc2 after d3, it opens |
| 17:06.11 | Thunder_Child | and i lied again, looks like it only fails if there is a patch |
| 17:06.36 | nevcairiel | might be that it was that, when you had one open while it was patching say wow, you couldnt launch d3 |
| 17:06.38 | nevcairiel | or something |
| 17:07.38 | Thunder_Child | while i had the sc2 launcher open and d3 had a patch, it would not let me open the d3 launcher. Once I patched d3, it stopped caring and everything opened |
| 17:07.39 | bluspacecow | it's because when open the Launcher out of the wow folder it kicks up an instance of the launcher.exe contained in the battle.net folder. |
| 17:08.35 | Thunder_Child | The error it was bitching about specifically was the sc2 launcher. |
| 17:09.13 | karl_w_w | i can't open both wow and d3 launcher, neither has a patch, no errors |
| 17:09.51 | bluspacecow | there hasn't been a launcher that is the one in the wow folder for yonks. the one in the battle.net folder gets updated all the time. |
| 17:10.06 | bluspacecow | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:10.28 | Thunder_Child | All i know is that i can open all three launchers at once. |
| 17:10.44 | nevcairiel | i cant, mine complain that the d3 launcher is already running =p |
| 17:11.00 | bluspacecow | that's cause your Special TC. |
| 17:12.01 | nevcairiel | maybe thats because all three had a patch to install |
| 17:12.03 | nevcairiel | shrugs |
| 17:12.31 | bluspacecow | weird permission error causing seperate instances of one program being open ? |
| 17:12.34 | bluspacecow | or |
| 17:12.37 | bluspacecow | ITS MAGIC |
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| 17:13.04 | nevcairiel | after i started all separately to install the patches, and closed them again, i can now run all of them at the same time =p |
| 17:13.35 | Thunder_Child | yea, each one must 'take control' of the patcher |
| 17:13.45 | Thunder_Child | is my guess |
| 17:15.51 | karl_w_w | interesting |
| 17:16.13 | karl_w_w | if i start the d3 and wow launchers right after each other both will launch |
| 17:16.27 | karl_w_w | but if there is a pause between then the second one wont start |
| 17:18.43 | karl_w_w | seems i have to start the second one before the first is done initializing |
| 17:19.20 | Thunder_Child | Maybe your stuff is weird |
| 17:19.28 | bluspacecow | *giggle* |
| 17:19.33 | bluspacecow | his junk is weird |
| 17:19.44 | Thunder_Child | Have you been peeking blu? |
| 17:19.51 | bluspacecow | maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaybe |
| 17:19.55 | karl_w_w | that was meant to be between us :( |
| 17:20.03 | bluspacecow | :( |
| 17:20.37 | karl_w_w | http://www.packagetrackr.com/track/fedex/558747167937!!13634541298547045 blu make it faster |
| 17:21.46 | bluspacecow | wacha buying |
| 17:22.49 | karl_w_w | nekkus 4 |
| 17:23.46 | nevcairiel | directly from the plant? :P |
| 17:32.05 | karl_w_w | they grow on plants? :D |
| 17:32.56 | nevcairiel | of course, the chinese nexus flower |
| 17:33.47 | karl_w_w | i dont know why they come from china, they are made in korea i think |
| 17:33.53 | karl_w_w | somewhere, not china |
| 17:34.12 | karl_w_w | but yeah, bought from google |
| 17:34.17 | Fisker | hey bluspacecow |
| 17:34.19 | Fisker | want ban? |
| 17:34.25 | nevcairiel | i still wonder why you get one shipped directly from there, mine got shipped from some google thingy in my country |
| 17:34.32 | bluspacecow | diggy hole! |
| 17:34.34 | nevcairiel | but maybe AU isnt popular enough for its own distribution =p |
| 17:34.43 | Fisker | starcraft crashed my start menu twice |
| 17:36.16 | Thunder_Child | Actually that was me |
| 17:39.25 | Shirik | (10:25:07) (karl_w_w) [13:43:25] http://www.packagetrackr.com/t |
| 17:39.28 | Shirik | what |
| 17:39.31 | Shirik | what just happened |
| 17:39.40 | Shirik | http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/buy/compare-microsoft-office-products-subscription-plans-FX102898564.aspx?WT%2Eintid1=ODC_ENUS_FX101785584_XT104019754 |
| 17:39.43 | Shirik | that's what I was supposed to paste |
| 17:39.43 | Shirik | anyway |
| 17:39.49 | Shirik | Why would I buy the student and teacher edition? |
| 17:39.57 | Shirik | home and student& |
| 17:40.07 | Thunder_Child | Shirik is stalking karl_w_w.....ceeeeepy |
| 17:40.42 | nevcairiel | Shirik: because the one is office 365 and the other is actual office? |
| 17:40.44 | Shirik | I must have accidentally dragged my mouse across the text while pasting or something |
| 17:40.51 | Shirik | OH |
| 17:40.56 | Shirik | ok that makes a lot more sense |
| 17:40.58 | nevcairiel | its also per year |
| 17:41.02 | nevcairiel | the other is one-time |
| 17:41.08 | Shirik | I thought it was all Office 365 "editions" |
| 17:41.14 | Thunder_Child | the 'per-year' didn't give it away? |
| 17:41.28 | Shirik | maybe they were being environmentally friendly and not copying it everywhere |
| 17:41.35 | Thunder_Child | ... |
| 17:42.19 | Thunder_Child | They have to provide for the lowest common denominator don't forget. |
| 17:44.43 | Fisker | the new office 365 is the hitler of office licenses though |
| 17:45.20 | Shirik | you know what's really amusing |
| 17:45.23 | nevcairiel | office itself also has gotten rather terrible licenses |
| 17:45.32 | Shirik | we spent all this money in getting personal computers larger hard drives and everything |
| 17:45.35 | nevcairiel | iirc, its now directly tied to the first hardware you install it on |
| 17:45.38 | Shirik | and we're moving to the point where you don't need a hard drive anymore |
| 17:45.44 | Shirik | everything will just be in the cloud |
| 17:46.24 | nevcairiel | i dislike this concept, i like my local apps |
| 17:46.34 | nevcairiel | the net is just not reliable enough for that yet |
| 17:46.35 | Shirik | We tried to have a LAN party yesterday |
| 17:46.42 | Shirik | we did it at work, where steam is blocked |
| 17:46.49 | nevcairiel | at home or the office maybe, but what about in between? |
| 17:46.50 | Shirik | took us an hour and a half before we were all good to go |
| 17:47.39 | nevcairiel | steam is a bit annoying offline, basically you have to remember to go offline before you are without connection, or it'll be terrible |
| 17:48.25 | Fisker | they changed the office license thing |
| 17:48.40 | Fisker | you can move licenses every 90 days or so now |
| 17:48.55 | nevcairiel | so i dont have to buy it again once i upgrade my pc now? sweet :p |
| 17:49.17 | nevcairiel | i'm still happily running 2007, was thinking about getting a new one, but meh |
| 17:50.27 | Fisker | so Stanzilla |
| 17:50.30 | Fisker | what happened to blue? |
| 17:52.03 | Fisker | i think it's alright |
| 17:52.09 | Fisker | i got the office 365 trial |
| 17:52.13 | Fisker | then cancelled it |
| 17:52.28 | Fisker | and you get to keep it in limited mode |
| 17:52.35 | Fisker | which for me apparently is basically everything i need |
| 17:52.39 | Fisker | whoop |
| 17:54.25 | Fisker | does that upset you nevcairiel ? |
| 17:54.51 | nevcairiel | very much so |
| 17:54.54 | nevcairiel | what does? |
| 17:55.37 | Fisker | running office 2013 with limited features but still getting all the features i need? |
| 17:56.30 | Dridzt | using LibreOffice, don't know why I should use MS :P |
| 17:57.08 | Fisker | outlook |
| 17:57.24 | Dridzt | Seamonkey :P |
| 17:57.55 | Dridzt | email client is part of office suites now? |
| 17:58.13 | Fisker | outlook has always been part of office |
| 17:58.15 | Fisker | well |
| 17:58.18 | Dridzt | ok |
| 17:58.24 | Fisker | maybe not before office xp |
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| 18:05.12 | astoo | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:05.47 | astoo | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:07.43 | kd3 | you could check against [raid]? |
| 18:08.00 | kd3 | ./cast [harm][raid] Spell |
| 18:08.29 | kd3 | though [raid] will return true for you too |
| 18:09.24 | astoo | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:09.35 | astoo | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:09.59 | kd3 | here's the full list of macro conditionals you can use: http://www.wowpedia.org/Macro_conditionals |
| 18:10.00 | Adys | ffs |
| 18:10.25 | Adys | AutoSafariHat's latest version relies on PLAYER_TARGET_CHANGED and does no checking at all (whether pet is in range of battle even starts) |
| 18:11.13 | astoo | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:14.14 | Dridzt | what does [exists,harm][group,noplayer] do? |
| 18:14.47 | kd3 | the second conditional doesn't exist, the first will cast on a harmful unit |
| 18:14.50 | Dridzt | or is it supposed to be able to be cast on any friendly grouped or not? |
| 18:14.53 | kd3 | (harm implies exists, you can remove it) |
| 18:15.42 | Dridzt | group definitely exists as a conditional and 'no' can be prefixed to any conditional to evaluate to the opposite |
| 18:15.53 | kd3 | player doesn't, though |
| 18:15.56 | Dridzt | not saying that it works |
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| 18:16.25 | Dridzt | ok firing up wow to experiment |
| 18:16.45 | astoo | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:16.48 | kd3 | the macro I wrote earlier is the closest I can think of to what you're trying to do, but there's no explicit way to check if you're targeting yourself or not |
| 18:17.03 | kd3 | s/you/astoo's/ |
| 18:17.16 | kd3 | ...sigh |
| 18:17.16 | astoo | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:17.19 | kd3 | looks for more caffeine |
| 18:17.35 | Dagmar | Check for the hairy attribute on the player's palms |
| 18:18.16 | karl_w_w | there's no way to check if the target is you |
| 18:18.24 | astoo | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:18.42 | Thunder_Child | I look at a product on amazon on friday morning, since i have 2 day shipping it says delivers tuesday. Ok, sounds good. Buy the item. Email saying it shipped on friday will be delivered on monday. Cool. Package comes sat morning. |
| 18:18.44 | astoo | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:18.45 | Thunder_Child | awesome |
| 18:19.02 | karl_w_w | astoo, [masturbates] is the same as [exists] |
| 18:19.16 | Dagmar | Thunder_Child: THey really like you |
| 18:19.51 | Thunder_Child | Dagmar: their shipping is amazing. I'm just waiting till i get a package i havent ordered yet, |
| 18:19.55 | Thunder_Child | .* |
| 18:19.55 | astoo | <PROTECTED> |
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| 18:25.34 | kd3 | ...oops? http://i.imgur.com/H06k9Mf.png |
| 18:26.22 | VIad | kd3: sorry I was hungry |
| 18:26.29 | karl_w_w | i confused |
| 18:27.19 | karl_w_w | does that plan have 2 tails? |
| 18:27.22 | karl_w_w | plane |
| 18:27.57 | karl_w_w | i dont understand what im lookin at |
| 18:28.02 | Dagmar | Thunder_Child; If that happens you should be very careful to MAKE SURE you actually order it at the proper time |
| 18:28.10 | kd3 | the wing on the left is the plane where the camera got taken |
| 18:28.18 | kd3 | the wing on the right is the one that got hit, on the plane in the background |
| 18:28.25 | kd3 | (took me a sec to figure it out when I first saw it) |
| 18:28.30 | kd3 | s/camera/picture/ |
| 18:29.02 | Elkano | hit by what? |
| 18:29.13 | karl_w_w | i see |
| 18:29.24 | kd3 | the other plane |
| 18:29.38 | kd3 | http://www.bnd.com/2013/03/16/2536988/planes-winglets-collide-at-detroit.html |
| 18:29.45 | Elkano | ah |
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| 18:30.50 | karl_w_w | wxyz-tv? was it named by a 6 year old? |
| 18:31.10 | karl_w_w | showing off that they can get to the end of the alphabet |
| 18:31.36 | durcyn | wargarbl, why does GetWeaponEnchantInfo still suck |
| 18:32.06 | Thunder_Child | Dagmar: heh, Amazon creating causality loops. |
| 18:32.54 | kd3 | wait, what? first we say that DPRK's not a threat, then we announce we're spending $1B on missile interceptors on the west coast? |
| 18:33.45 | kd3 | https://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/16/world/asia/us-to-bolster-missile-defense-against-north-korea.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0 |
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| 18:35.21 | Thunder_Child | It would be nice if we could at least be building ones that work better than 50% of the time. |
| 18:36.14 | Thunder_Child | hell, for 1 Billion, I'll design better counter missiles |
| 18:37.51 | foxlit | "It would be nice if we could at least be building ones that work better than 50% of the time" << why? Just build more. |
| 18:38.08 | Thunder_Child | This isn't russia |
| 18:38.33 | foxlit | In that you don't approach engineering rationally? |
| 18:39.03 | Thunder_Child | Quality over quantity please |
| 18:39.07 | karl_w_w | yeah, americans design expensive things like pens that work in space |
| 18:44.57 | karl_w_w | astoo: /cast [@targettargettargettargettargettargettargettargettarget, noexists] spell |
| 18:45.10 | Shirik | ..... |
| 18:45.44 | Shirik | kd3: I am very amused by that article |
| 18:45.47 | karl_w_w | that would eliminate anybody who is targetting themselves, most of the time :P |
| 18:46.03 | kd3 | yah |
| 18:46.20 | Shirik | in other news |
| 18:46.46 | karl_w_w | oh no, it would fail |
| 18:46.49 | Shirik | interesting aerodynamics fact: winglets are 99% pointless |
| 18:46.57 | karl_w_w | cos of bosses and tanks targetting each other |
| 18:47.15 | foxlit | is that the same sort of fact as "you're only using 20% of your brain?" |
| 18:47.22 | Shirik | sure |
| 18:47.31 | Shirik | they would perform better if they were just flattened out into an extension of the wing |
| 18:47.45 | Shirik | the only reason they're used is to make the aircraft less wide |
| 18:48.03 | Shirik | not to reduce material or stabilize, which is what most people think |
| 18:48.22 | kd3 | vortex minimization? |
| 18:48.45 | Shirik | right, but you would get a better effect by just increasing the wingspan instead by the same amount |
| 18:52.05 | karl_w_w | no Shirik, not less wide |
| 18:52.13 | karl_w_w | better for the same width |
| 18:52.17 | Semlar | so has anyone else noticed that curse isn't putting replies to comments where they should be |
| 18:52.44 | karl_w_w | I do my best to ignore curse |
| 18:53.16 | karl_w_w | it does too many weird things |
| 18:53.30 | Semlar | if i reply to a comment it treats it like i'm replying to the first message |
| 18:54.04 | Semlar | so it doesn't put it under the message i'm actually replying to |
| 18:54.40 | karl_w_w | suddenly wonders why planes don't have solar panels on them, given how long they spend above clouds |
| 18:55.41 | kd3 | considering how much trouble they're having with batteries right now... |
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| 18:57.05 | kd3 | speaking of DPRK... http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-21814416 |
| 18:57.10 | bleeter | hah http://www.cinemablend.com/games/SimCity-Hack-Lets-Users-Destroy-Anyone-Online-City-Thanks-Always-DRM-53685.html |
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| 18:58.42 | Semlar | http://i.imgur.com/GDWIzEk.jpg curse! |
| 19:00.51 | Semlar | like if i hit "reply" to comment #32 the box at the top will actually say In reply to: Comment #31 |
| 19:01.14 | Semlar | no matter how many replies there are under that it will always be to 31 |
| 19:02.43 | Semlar | now i don't even know if it's actually notifying the person i'm replying to that i've replied |
| 19:03.03 | Shirik | so simcity |
| 19:03.05 | Shirik | good or bad? |
| 19:03.29 | Fisker | nice |
| 19:03.53 | Semlar | that wasn't an option! |
| 19:03.55 | Maldivia | Shirik: good for the PR folk at EA, they're getting a lot of work... |
| 19:04.02 | Shirik | lol |
| 19:04.03 | Dagmar | THe video on that page is great |
| 19:04.13 | Shirik | so should I get it or not |
| 19:04.26 | kd3 | I'm not getting it, despite how much I want to |
| 19:04.29 | Shirik | o.O Error 103 (net::ERR_CONNECTION_ABORTED): Unknown error. |
| 19:04.43 | Shirik | why not kd3? |
| 19:05.56 | kd3 | I'm disappointed in maxis (ea) in doubling-down with the always-on nature, how tiny the cities are, how it doesn't feel like an upgrade to the last one, etc... |
| 19:07.01 | kd3 | also I would prefer to not support ea if I can help it |
| 19:09.05 | ingshtrom | anyone ever have a problem where you can't start the WoW.exe? I can get the launcher running, but then when I click Play it just sits there |
| 19:09.16 | Silvanas | i was looking at http://code.google.com/p/luapack/source/browse/trunk/Win32/lua/set.lua?spec=svn19&r=19#88 at line 88 there is "local r = new {}", this seems wierd as lua does not have a "new" keyword |
| 19:11.02 | Maldivia | Silvanas: there's a function called new in the file |
| 19:11.10 | Maldivia | new {} is equivalent of new({}) |
| 19:11.36 | Seerah | yep, line 32 |
| 19:11.59 | nevcairiel | this is why this no-() syntax is bad, its confusing people :p |
| 19:12.18 | Dagmar | Well, like in perl is *is* optional |
| 19:12.21 | Silvanas | heh yeh i see it now |
| 19:12.22 | Seerah | yeah, I hate looking at code with no () same with how they have spaces between functions and () |
| 19:16.30 | karl_w_w | func"arg" is better |
| 19:16.32 | Silvanas | i would personaly just declare the metatable in local var and do "local result = {}" and "setmetatable(result, <metatable>)", seems less confusing to me ;D |
| 19:17.07 | bleeter | kd3++ |
| 19:18.14 | Torhal | haste does that, or used to, sometimes. |
| 19:18.25 | nevcairiel | haste is also an evil person |
| 19:18.25 | Torhal | The no-parens thing, I mean. |
| 19:19.42 | haste | it really depends on what I've been using earlier that day now |
| 19:19.57 | haste | hurray inconsistency |
| 19:21.40 | Adys | is there a unitframe addon like Shadowed Unit Frames for pet battles? |
| 19:22.34 | Adys | one that would show your current pet as the player, the other two as party members; the other team same on opposite side of the screen, all with buff/debuff support |
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| 19:25.30 | Adys | in fact |
| 19:25.36 | Adys | Shadowed: how hard would it be to write a SUF module for it |
| 19:27.07 | End_ | I don't think SUF would make much sense for that |
| 19:27.42 | Adys | not SUF, an external SUF module |
| 19:28.11 | Adys | id want it to share theming and such with SUF tbh |
| 19:29.14 | Adys | are battle pets actual units? i guess not |
| 19:29.24 | End_ | they are definitely not |
| 19:31.19 | nevcairiel | nah, it owuld need to re-invent all of the bars to use different APIs |
| 19:31.34 | nevcairiel | dont think it fits into a normal UF so easily |
| 19:41.17 | Semlar | http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/pet-battle-hud/ |
| 19:43.06 | Fisker | btw bleeter i'm not sure if it'll actually work |
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| 19:46.56 | bleeter | Fisker: hey, it's EA. Anything's possible :P |
| 19:47.25 | Fisker | sure |
| 19:47.40 | Fisker | but it was possible to modify certain city properties in beta as well |
| 19:47.46 | Fisker | but those didn't carry over either |
| 19:49.41 | smcn | is there a way to get the exact duration of an item in your bags? |
| 19:49.51 | bleeter | Fisker = Fun Police |
| 19:51.50 | Semlar | duration? |
| 19:52.07 | Semlar | like items that expire? |
| 19:52.07 | Fisker | sorry bleeter :( |
| 19:52.59 | kd3 | tooltip scanning afaik |
| 19:53.03 | bleeter | you will be, Fisker |
| 19:59.39 | Silvanas | meh tooltip scanning is not like it used to be :/ |
| 20:00.05 | Maldivia | it can be |
| 20:02.35 | Unkle | Maldivia: I feel like I just walked into a Monty Python sketch... |
| 20:03.07 | Maldivia | Unkle: and that would be bad? |
| 20:03.53 | Unkle | Only if I ended up in the "Being hit on the head lessons" room. |
| 20:04.25 | Maldivia | or the Spanish inquisition? |
| 20:05.23 | Unkle | NO ONE EXPECTS THE SPANISH INQUISITION! |
| 20:12.49 | Silvanas | hmm it seems <tooltip>:NumLines() does often return 0 rather then the actual number of lines |
| 20:13.20 | Maldivia | did you remember to Show() |
| 20:13.40 | Silvanas | hmm good point :D |
| 20:14.34 | Silvanas | hmm showing it does not seem to make a difference |
| 20:15.01 | Eridius | :Show() doesn't affect number of lines, it's just required to fix the backdrop |
| 20:15.03 | Thunder_Child | Actually they did Unkle. They gave 3 days notice. |
| 20:15.25 | Thunder_Child | Thank You QI for useless facts. |
| 20:15.31 | Eridius | Silvanas: are you doing this on GameTooltip or on your own frame that inherits it? |
| 20:15.39 | Maldivia | Thunder_Child: well, QI is good at that |
| 20:15.56 | Silvanas | own Frame, but i found it was my fault i was calling NumLines() on a different frame (stoopid copy paste bug) |
| 20:16.00 | Eridius | haha |
| 20:16.07 | Maldivia | lol |
| 20:25.04 | zenzelezz | "Maybe if Bomber killed THREE of his own armies zerg could win. His plan was brilliant. When you kill your own army there's nothing to heal, so don't waste starport time on medivacs." -- I love idra sometimes |
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| 20:35.09 | Fisker | why are fucks given regarding mlg zenzelezz ? |
| 20:35.56 | zenzelezz | shrugs |
| 20:36.06 | zenzelezz | I suppose people like watching good players fight |
| 20:38.35 | bleeter | yeah I don't care for much of any sports, unless it's a good matchup. I want decent competition, not whitewashes |
| 20:40.10 | Fisker | mlg is the hitler of esports |
| 20:40.24 | Fisker | also i've seen less streaming issues on youtube |
| 20:40.44 | Fisker | (get it? Because youtube is constantly a pile of streaming shit now) |
| 20:40.59 | Fisker | ((Double get it? I used streaming instead of steaming lol)) |
| 20:41.50 | smcn | hm so someone yesterday was complaining about offhand getting unequipped, was it when using a macro/equipment manager? i'm having the same problem, as soon as i equip a set with an offhand it equips it then immediately unequips it |
| 20:45.18 | bleeter | iz mysql iz gud http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2013/03/16/simcity-modder-tells-us-offline-regional-play-easily-done/ |
| 20:45.25 | bleeter | amirite |
| 20:47.51 | Fisker | don't be mad bleeter |
| 20:48.19 | bleeter | ok I be crazy bleeter instead |
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| 20:56.09 | Ackis | those chests on thunder island that you can get once a week, can you see if you've looted one for the week yet? |
| 20:59.35 | Fisker | yeah Ackis |
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| 21:00.33 | Jammer | Ackis: http://www.wowpedia.org/Trove_of_the_Thunder_King#Weekly_chest_quest_check |
| 21:00.49 | Ackis | ty |
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| 21:29.34 | foxlit | how does scale work with anchor points? |
| 21:30.19 | Iriel | It's documented on wowprogramming I think |
| 21:30.25 | Iriel | I know I wrote it down somewhere |
| 21:31.00 | Iriel | hm, not there |
| 21:34.03 | Iriel | Basically the offset is scaled according to one of the ends, but I forget which one |
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| 21:35.09 | Iriel | I think it's the relativeTo's scale |
| 21:36.55 | foxlit | mm. I want something to stay in place but increase in size; scaling its parent ends up moving it in various evil directions. |
| 21:37.45 | Iriel | You have to update the parent scale and the anchors |
| 21:37.58 | Iriel | simultaneously |
| 21:38.08 | foxlit | might as well be using :SetSize() |
| 21:38.22 | Iriel | or introduce an unscaled frame to anchoring purposes |
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| 21:49.30 | Silvanas | does anyone know how wow itemcaches work? |
| 21:50.07 | Silvanas | i got an item in the dungion journal, i can mouse over to see it but if i run GetItemInfo() on it returns nil |
| 21:50.35 | Silvanas | i was thinking that if i could see its tooltip it already be in my cache or so |
| 21:52.26 | Maldivia | you should |
| 21:53.12 | Silvanas | tryed the same thing by the AH and i also seem to be getting nils, |
| 21:53.28 | Maldivia | are you sure you're using the correct ID for GetItemInfo then? |
| 21:53.34 | Silvanas | might be related to how i link it tho, like enchants / gems |
| 21:53.59 | Silvanas | i run it from the chatwindow like /wha <itemlink> |
| 21:54.12 | Silvanas | if i use items i got on me all goes fine tho |
| 21:56.21 | Maldivia | tried changing your command so you just extract the itemID and use that for the GetItemInfo call? |
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| 21:58.01 | Maldivia | something like: local itemId = link:match("Hitem:(%d+)") -- if I remember the item link string correctly |
| 21:58.25 | Silvanas | ill try |
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| 22:06.40 | foxlit | UNIT_SPELLCAST_STOP makes baby seals cry :( |
| 22:06.47 | Silvanas | well standly it does work now :D |
| 22:06.58 | foxlit | It fires before the more relevant events telling you /why/ you stopped casting :( |
| 22:07.26 | Silvanas | you could use it as a signal to start looking for the more relevant events :D |
| 22:08.29 | foxlit | I could also attach space lasers to sharks :) |
| 22:10.09 | Silvanas | you could make money with that |
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| 22:17.25 | Thunder_Child | kd3: I think I need to steal your hate net name |
| 22:22.15 | Semlar|Laptop | does anyone know what's causing random fps drops even without any addons |
| 22:22.33 | Humbedooh | porn in the background? |
| 22:22.40 | Semlar|Laptop | porn! |
| 22:22.57 | Semlar|Laptop | no that's never been an issue before |
| 22:24.58 | zenzelezz | yeah, porn is pretty well optimized by now |
| 22:25.29 | Semlar|Laptop | i feel like it's from the game spamming certain events |
| 22:27.02 | Semlar|Laptop | i'm going to try unregistering things until it stops |
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| 22:35.17 | foxlit | gr, the Spell cast -> channel transition is breaking my logic :/ |
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| 23:06.03 | foxlit | every time I have to deal with UNT_SPELLCAST events, I feel like that's a horrible, horrible API |
| 23:29.35 | durcyn | pretty much anything that's unchanged since 1.0 is awful in some way |
| 23:34.16 | Adys | Semlar: from my experience, NPCScan is the cause of those fps drops |
| 23:34.36 | Adys | guildie had the issue, was gone upon disabling it. had same issue, npcscan disabled for a week and no drops since |
| 23:38.25 | zenzelezz | durcyn: has UNIT_SPELLCAST not been changed at all? |
| 23:38.26 | ingshtrom | I can't seem to find a function for selling items to a vendor. Is there a user created one or am I just missing it? |
| 23:38.45 | durcyn | zenzelezz: afaik no, the cooldown API stuff makes me rage almost as much |
| 23:39.07 | zenzelezz | interesting |
| 23:39.45 | Semlar | Adys: i'll see if it happens without npcscan |
| 23:43.38 | Mr_Rabies | yeah, npcscan is a major hog lately |
| 23:44.03 | Mr_Rabies | my guess is something's broken underneath, and it hasn't been updated since 5.0 first came out |
| 23:45.16 | foxlit | heh, dropping/recasting flight form no longer resets pitch to 0. when did that happen? |
| 23:48.14 | Mr_Rabies | 5.2 did some really wild stuff with dismount trajectory |
| 23:48.31 | Mr_Rabies | you can fire yourself in certain directions |
| 23:48.40 | Mr_Rabies | the direction you're facing/going |
| 23:50.34 | zenzelezz | fire yourself? |
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| 23:54.49 | Mr_Rabies | yeah, you inherit velocity in a weird way |
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| 23:59.25 | Iriel | foxlit: the spell cast stuff is I think hack upon hack, and it'll drive you mad. It IS slightly better than it was at launch, but not much |
| 23:59.52 | foxlit | I think the sequence of events that fires is actually non-deterministic. |
