| 00:00.16 | Primer | It's best if you keep track of your frames, presuming you intend to hide frames in your own addon |
| 00:00.27 | NorxMAL | Yup |
| 00:00.56 | Primer | Mine is easy, as all the frames are contained by a parent frame, which I can just hide and everything inside is hidden too |
| 00:01.35 | NorxMAL | Does that reset the text on the frame children? |
| 00:01.55 | Primer | no |
| 00:02.00 | Primer | well |
| 00:02.06 | Primer | I don't really know |
| 00:02.56 | NorxMAL | ok :) |
| 00:03.31 | Primer | But my guess would be that it does not |
| 00:04.15 | NorxMAL | Nope, it didn't :P |
| 00:05.04 | Primer | NorxMAL: what are you working on? Just curious |
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| 00:05.17 | NorxMAL | It is a secret :P |
| 00:05.37 | NorxMAL | It will make me the emperor of the world |
| 00:05.46 | Primer | That's what I thought when I wrote my addon |
| 00:06.13 | Primer | but apparently I was just experiencing delusions of grandeur |
| 00:08.25 | Torhal | despawns Humbedooh. |
| 00:08.32 | Humbedooh | so mean |
| 00:09.12 | Humbedooh | reprograms Torhal in erlang for better concurrency handling |
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| 00:09.29 | Torhal | Bastage. |
| 00:17.45 | Shirik | reprograms Humbedooh in Ada, for real concurrency |
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| 00:23.12 | NorxMAL | I'm getting some strange results here. How can I get two different frames with the same name? |
| 00:23.26 | karl_w_w | you can't |
| 00:26.28 | NorxMAL | Apparantly I can xD |
| 00:26.36 | Humbedooh | magic! |
| 00:27.03 | TC-work | The magic of crashing wow |
| 00:28.21 | NorxMAL | I have this in a loop "print("CRbuttons"..i)" And it Prints out CRbuttons1 twice, and if I do /script CRbuttons1:Hide() it only hides one of the frames. I also have a OnClick that does "print(self:GetName())" and that also reports CRbuttons1 on both buttons xD |
| 00:28.36 | NorxMAL | If I trigger the loop twice |
| 00:28.50 | NorxMAL | It's evil! |
| 00:29.34 | NorxMAL | Well, I have to find some different solution xD |
| 00:32.21 | alestane | A frame name is distinct from the variable that stores the reference to the frame. |
| 00:32.34 | alestane | The variable can only refer to one frame. |
| 00:33.00 | alestane | The name is just a string that's associated with the frame. So two frames can have the same string, or name. |
| 00:33.47 | alestane | When you give a name to CreateFrame, it does two things. It attaches the string to the frame, and it also sets that frame object as the value of the variable with that name. |
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| 00:34.31 | NorxMAL | How can I reuse the frame then? |
| 00:34.39 | NorxMAL | I'm confused |
| 00:34.44 | alestane | Define "reuse" in this case. |
| 00:35.26 | NorxMAL | CRbuttons1 has text One, and I want to replace that with "Two" |
| 00:36.02 | NorxMAL | Hmm |
| 00:37.28 | alestane | You want to change the text of a fontstring in the frame. |
| 00:38.41 | NorxMAL | I have a loop which makes frames from a table, and I have some problems |
| 00:40.31 | NorxMAL | Gonna check if this works better, what I did now :) |
| 00:42.09 | karl_w_w | what u wanna do is not give them the same name :P |
| 00:44.20 | NorxMAL | I need a break |
| 00:44.32 | Semlar | pace yourself |
| 00:47.51 | durcyn | Shadowed: UnitPopup:940: Usage: GetRaidRosterInfo(index) when right clicking SUF raid frames |
| 01:09.52 | NorxMAL | This doesn't work, making a loop start on a tables size before it gets added to http://ideone.com/Lm8LOw |
| 01:11.51 | NorxMAL | I think there is several bugs here |
| 01:14.26 | NorxMAL | If the table is 3 items in size, shouldn't it continue on 4 on the next time it runs a tinsert? |
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| 01:34.31 | Semlar | you can't do #CRTable = CRi |
| 01:37.55 | Neffi | To people for whom PvP is their primary interest in the World of Warcraft: what's your favorite DPS class? |
| 01:37.58 | Neffi | I need something new to try |
| 01:38.17 | Semlar | rogue? |
| 01:38.24 | Neffi | My mains are rogue and druid at the moment. |
| 01:38.34 | Semlar | two rogues? |
| 01:38.36 | Neffi | And I refuse to roll a DK |
| 01:38.55 | Neffi | Nah. I'm really bored of the rogue, and I want an alt to toy with when I get bored of the cat. |
| 01:39.15 | Semlar | well you seem like you would prefer a melee class |
| 01:39.31 | Semlar | or are you looking to branch out |
| 01:39.42 | Neffi | I'm looking for something that's different |
| 01:39.47 | Semlar | mage |
| 01:39.55 | Neffi | I'm not opposed to anything in particular -- except DKs |
| 01:40.22 | karl_w_w | shadow priest |
| 01:40.38 | Neffi | Mage and spriest are on my list. The only ones on the list in fact. |
| 01:40.51 | karl_w_w | mage is too hard dont bother :P |
| 01:40.57 | Neffi | I'm waiting to see if somebody makes an enthusiastic remark about how they love a class I hadn't even considered |
| 01:40.59 | Semlar | a hunter would be similar to the physical dps but with range |
| 01:41.08 | Neffi | I like hard. I'm a skill-cap kinda player. |
| 01:41.35 | Semlar | mages can be really good if you can manage it |
| 01:41.44 | Neffi | I always loved hunters in theory but always ended up bored with 'em. |
| 01:41.51 | Semlar | or at least they used to be i don't know how they are now |
| 01:41.55 | Neffi | Somebody's gotta have that special class they love enough to tell me, go roll it |
| 01:42.47 | alestane | I'v always had a good time with my warlocks. The sustainability and self-sufficiency make me hapy. |
| 01:42.51 | alestane | happy* |
| 01:43.02 | Neffi | How does your mobility feel in MoP? |
| 01:43.23 | Neffi | I quit mine mid BC during the SL/SL era because no amount of OP could make up for gameplay that felt as static as sitting in a chair |
| 01:43.51 | alestane | Well, I'm no judge of PvP now that I look over your interests. |
| 01:44.34 | Neffi | I'll watch some gameplay videos though. The idea of picking up a newly designed incarnation of a class I used to like intrigues me |
| 01:44.46 | alestane | You'd probably want to go Demonology as I understand the spec now. |
| 01:45.08 | Neffi | Possibly. I do like that they can sac their pet permanently now. Destro seems interesting. |
| 01:45.25 | alestane | Its focus these days is turning into a demon and getting into the thick of things while you litter the battlefield with little auto-turet imps. |
| 01:45.29 | alestane | turret* |
| 01:45.30 | Neffi | Possibly aff has potential with that route too. But I havent looked into really anything. |
| 01:45.57 | Neffi | Yeah I love chain CCing the meta'd warlock and practically hearing him rage |
| 01:46.20 | alestane | I like affliction, but for me it usually consists of dotting things up and then waiting for them to die. |
| 01:46.34 | alestane | Although Malefic Grasp allows you to hasten that process more actively. |
| 01:46.41 | Neffi | Yeah, WoW is too burst heavy nowadays. I liked Aff back in the day, but I think destro would be the way to go. |
| 01:47.11 | Neffi | I'll take a look into their mobility and general style paradigm. Know of any particularly good warlocks with Youtube channels? |
| 01:47.19 | alestane | I used to play 21/30/0 when that was how specs worked. |
| 01:48.10 | alestane | When we were raiding vanilla instances it meant that resources were just not a problem; all I had to worry about was "banish what we tell you to banish" and "don't stand in the crap." |
| 01:48.27 | Neffi | Yeah, draining tapping was insane |
| 01:48.34 | Neffi | especially if you opted for the mana battery imp too |
| 01:49.03 | Neffi | I used to AoE masses of mobs when I needed to heal up lol |
| 01:49.31 | karl_w_w | <Neffi> I quit mine mid BC during the SL/SL era because no amount of OP could make up for gameplay that felt as static as sitting in a chair <- but u sit in a chair whatever class u play :P |
| 01:49.57 | Neffi | I don't want my character to feel more lazy than me |
| 01:52.19 | Neffi | never ask trade chat for youtube links: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fpFZSQ0GLk |
| 01:54.38 | TC-work | never click a link in IRC relinked from trade chat |
| 01:55.46 | NorxMAL | Semlar, I pasted the wrong code, it was supposed to be CRi = #CRTable |
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| 02:19.59 | kd3 | the hell? http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-xrd2yPQtQsk/UTeEwdyM9wI/AAAAAAAAfrQ/cg4eGjWlsc0/s1600/1.gif |
| 02:22.09 | bluspacecow | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/8087929775?page=6#104 |
| 02:22.39 | bluspacecow | doesn't fire need air to burn kd3 ? |
| 02:22.54 | kd3 | a vacuum cleaner doesn't actually make a vacuum |
| 02:23.10 | bluspacecow | it doesn't ? |
| 02:23.35 | Primer | Nature abhors a vacuum |
| 02:23.39 | kd3 | no. it pumps air out the back, lowering the pressure inside the chamber. that pressure is filled by inrushing air |
| 02:23.40 | kd3 | also, ^ |
| 02:24.04 | kd3 | s/filled/raised back to atmospheric/ |
| 02:30.19 | Dagmar | I'm pretty sure he just violated the hell out of his warranty |
| 02:35.51 | xyphoid | i really wanted that to end by him opening up the canister and it being full of FIRE |
| 02:36.17 | xyphoid | maybe emptying the fire into the trash or something |
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| 02:40.56 | pompy | Shirik: see all that drone talk today? |
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| 02:53.59 | Shirik | pompy: which drone talk? |
| 02:54.07 | Shirik | there's always stuff in the news because people are so afraid of them |
| 02:54.37 | Shirik | the stuff about a pilot reporting a UAV? |
| 02:54.41 | kd3 | yah |
| 02:55.33 | Shirik | I don't think that was a UAV tbh |
| 02:55.47 | Shirik | some day the media will learn that remote control aircraft and UAVs are radically different |
| 02:56.06 | kd3 | media? learn? |
| 02:56.07 | kd3 | hahahahahahha |
| 02:56.16 | Shirik | I think it was just some remote control quadcopter |
| 02:56.24 | Shirik | and it would have bounced off the airplane |
| 02:56.36 | kd3 | right up until it got sucked into an engine |
| 02:56.47 | Shirik | and then it lands with the remaining engines |
| 02:56.48 | Shirik | oh well |
| 02:56.53 | Shirik | I mean yes, it's bad |
| 02:57.11 | Shirik | but people are making out like this could have destroyed the world |
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| 03:02.39 | Fisker | oh cool |
| 03:03.33 | Fisker | looks like blizzard finally fixed that quest that caused phasing to bug in kun-lai |
| 03:03.39 | Fisker | except the quest can't be completed because of phasing |
| 03:03.41 | Fisker | ":D" |
| 03:03.55 | Fisker | guess i'll have to wait another 2 major content patches to kill that rare |
| 03:08.40 | Fisker | oh |
| 03:08.41 | Fisker | well |
| 03:08.50 | Fisker | atleast i can have it in my quest log indefinitely for the correct phasing |
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| 03:21.50 | cogwheel | o/ |
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| 03:28.04 | jnwhiteh | Mr_Rabies: what does clique asplode for? |
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| 03:34.35 | Ackis | anyone here who uses pitbull can you tell me how I can make people that have diseases and magic stuff really fucking noticable? |
| 03:36.27 | jnwhiteh | don't use pitbull? =) |
| 03:39.22 | Ackis | :P |
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| 04:12.10 | bluspacecow | @Cairenn http://i.imgur.com/vTOLBcn.gif |
| 04:12.17 | bluspacecow | happy doggie is happy |
| 04:12.36 | Cairenn | hehehhe, happy dog is very happy |
| 04:18.31 | karl_w_w | I doubt that quite a lot |
| 04:26.22 | Wobin | Cairenn: http://24.media.tumblr.com/9bb8c793f17e90f1e67edda1838f943b/tumblr_mj2rufk57T1qdlh1io1_250.gif |
| 04:27.05 | Cairenn | awwwww |
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| 04:42.26 | Neffi | http://imgur.com/gallery/MbnEUSq |
| 04:42.38 | Neffi | Cairenn: I think you'll like that |
| 04:42.56 | Cairenn | rofl |
| 04:47.55 | alestane | That's not the Dark Lord, that's Mom! |
| 04:48.14 | bluspacecow | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:48.15 | Cairenn | heh |
| 04:48.32 | alestane | Hi to you too, blu, |
| 04:50.45 | bluspacecow | hihihi |
| 04:52.50 | Neffi | it's scary how well this works http://imgur.com/gallery/I4W5KDA |
| 04:53.36 | Cairenn | hehehe |
| 04:53.36 | Neffi | I for one welcome our new canine overlords and look forward to a lifetime of plotting with the felines to overthrow the man |
| 04:54.51 | alestane | 二人羽織！ |
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| 05:21.57 | Kemayo | Here's a weird random regression: The key to Dire Maul is dropping again, as of 5.2. |
| 05:22.43 | kd3 | o_O |
| 05:23.05 | Shirik | working as intended |
| 05:23.13 | Shirik | dire maul to become next revamped instance |
| 05:24.17 | Kemayo | Well, I guess I'll hold onto it for a bit then. |
| 05:24.29 | Shirik | that was a joke |
| 05:24.41 | Kemayo | A plausible one, alas. |
| 05:28.22 | Wobin | http://imgur.com/gallery/KYRXx bf |
| 05:28.29 | Wobin | I like the last one |
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| 05:49.51 | Fisker | keys are obsolete Kemayo |
| 05:49.57 | Fisker | instance revamp or not |
| 05:49.58 | Fisker | hey tharper |
| 05:50.07 | tharper | hey fisker! |
| 05:50.21 | Kemayo | Fisker: Indeed, which is why I thought it weird to see one drop. |
| 05:50.47 | Fisker | hope you don't die tharper |
| 05:50.53 | tharper | aww thanks |
| 05:53.25 | Semlar | is there a way to check that the mouse is over something that can be interacted with or used |
| 06:02.38 | smcn | CURSOR_UPDATE fires when the mouse cursor changes, so maybe? |
| 06:02.49 | smcn | it's kind of broad |
| 06:03.48 | Thunder_Child | So i just got a letter in the mail about a jurry summons, "Start Date: 10-9-2012" uh....really guys? |
| 06:04.26 | smcn | TIME COP 2: TIME JURY |
| 06:04.49 | smcn | oh there already was a timecop 2 |
| 06:04.50 | Thunder_Child | that would make jury duty one hell of a lot more interesting |
| 06:05.01 | smcn | timecop 3: timejury |
| 06:05.03 | Semlar | is there any way to actually check what the cursor is? |
| 06:05.43 | Semlar | like, just check if the cursor is not the glove |
| 06:10.19 | Mr_Rabies | <@jnwhiteh> Mr_Rabies: what does clique asplode for? |
| 06:10.48 | Mr_Rabies | i think it was the context menu on right click to raid frames, i just remade the binding and i...think? that fixed it |
| 06:11.42 | smcn | oh yeah i was having that problem too |
| 06:11.59 | smcn | ctrl+alt+shift+rightclicking worked for some reason |
| 06:12.06 | smcn | i did that b/c it's what my 2nd spec is bound to |
| 06:40.45 | Neffi | his wife must be happy http://imgur.com/gallery/Rngp7 |
| 06:40.48 | Neffi | (SFW) |
| 06:54.17 | Mr_Rabies | i think that's a sun bear |
| 06:54.19 | Mr_Rabies | they're weird |
| 06:54.54 | Mr_Rabies | http://i2.asntown.net/5/sore_head__the_sun_bear_is_nocturnal__which_explai.jpg |
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| 08:24.30 | wereHamster | can healing spells to friendly targets miss? |
| 08:24.48 | kd3 | only if there's some crazy encounter mechanic in play |
| 08:24.57 | kd3 | heals have 100% hit chance by default |
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| 10:03.49 | karl_w_w | oh man i hate cling film/baking paper/aluminium foil boxes which fall apart |
| 10:07.03 | Maldivia | you mean almost all of them |
| 10:11.17 | karl_w_w | i used to staple the end bits together so they'd stay |
| 10:11.24 | karl_w_w | but i cant find the stapler |
| 10:15.44 | bluspacecow | no looks at me |
| 10:15.47 | bluspacecow | i no eat it |
| 10:34.45 | Corv | Hmm. GetCurrencyInfo appears to return a new value |
| 10:34.47 | Corv | Not sure what in the world it is. |
| 10:41.29 | Corv | It's 1 for everything except Valor, which gives 4. |
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| 10:58.30 | nevcairiel | valor is now epic, maybe it has something to do wit hthat? |
| 11:01.10 | Corv | Oooh. That could be. Would imply that the rest are... common? White? Pretty sure at least some are green, though. |
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| 11:07.32 | Corv | Eh, maybe I'm losing it. The ones I have readily available are all showing white. I think that's it. |
| 11:08.27 | Corv | Now if only they'd put the currency IDs back on GetCurrencyListInfo >.> |
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| 11:15.52 | karl_w_w | http://www.caribplanet.com/community/attachment.php?attachmentid=24249&stc=1&d=1162223045 lol |
| 11:45.23 | bleeter | that's gotta hurt https://gist.github.com/re4k/3878505 |
| 11:47.57 | zenzio | tell me those aren't private keys... |
| 11:48.23 | bleeter | well I could tell you that, but I'd obviously be telling stories.... |
| 11:48.52 | bleeter | s/obviously/apparently/ |
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| 12:20.55 | zenzio | anyone know if it's generally possible for someone to configure their network (the gateway possibly?) to disallow large POST bodies on outgoing requests or something like that? I'm running out of ideas as to why uploads to this damn site works for me from everywhere, but not for the customer |
| 12:23.13 | karl_w_w | only thing i can think of is mtu |
| 12:25.47 | mitch0 | zenzio: could be some timeout? (maybe his upload link is slooooower than yours) |
| 12:40.05 | Arrowmaster | zenzio: it is possible, i recommend wiresharking the issue if you can |
| 13:09.01 | foxlit | meh, silly isle. stuck in combat for absolutely no reason |
| 13:09.35 | VIad | has happened to me when going trough CRZ - some rare times |
| 13:09.42 | VIad | (combat, cross CRZ, combat stuck) |
| 13:09.49 | VIad | many other ways to get stuck in weird "combat" |
| 13:10.02 | VIad | they at least changed so you can logout while in combat |
| 13:10.08 | VIad | I remember you couldn't before :P |
| 13:10.09 | foxlit | I couldn't |
| 13:10.11 | VIad | oh? |
| 13:10.18 | foxlit | "You can't logout now." |
| 13:10.20 | VIad | I did it last time I got combat stuck, weird... |
| 13:36.34 | karl_w_w | I can log out when in combat |
| 13:36.41 | karl_w_w | it's called alt F4 |
| 13:37.02 | karl_w_w | btw if u run into one of the protective bubbles u drop out of combat |
| 13:38.18 | foxlit | I actually did that too. |
| 13:38.23 | foxlit | Logged back right into the same combat. |
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| 13:52.05 | VIad | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:52.22 | VIad | saves data while altf4 kills the game, no? |
| 13:56.48 | karl_w_w | lol i just noticed this episode of 30 rock lampoons steve jobs |
| 13:57.07 | VIad | http://imgur.com/gallery/FlyHRc9 |
| 13:57.12 | VIad | karl_w_w: >:( |
| 13:59.19 | karl_w_w | http://video.answers.com/30-rock-mocks-steve-jobs-517197568 |
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| 15:05.08 | karl_w_w | when a url takes you to a certain marker in a page using a #, what is that called? |
| 15:05.20 | nevcairiel | anchor |
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| 15:07.12 | karl_w_w | hugs nevcairiel with all the enthusiasm of a thousand bears |
| 15:09.31 | Humbedooh | a thousand bears ;o |
| 15:10.11 | Humbedooh | karl_w_w: the nitpicker in me should note that <a name="anchorname"> is deprecated nowadays |
| 15:10.32 | Rythal | is there an easy way to turn my enUS client, into ruRU without having to download the 20GB installer... it seems blizzard keeps closing all the methods i've read about / tried. |
| 15:11.06 | karl_w_w | so is ie6, Humbedooh |
| 15:11.56 | Humbedooh | yes! |
| 15:11.59 | Humbedooh | we hates it |
| 15:12.36 | karl_w_w | ur gonna have to dl a great many giggerbites of localized data anyway, Rythal, much safer to just download the installer |
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| 15:19.19 | Rythal | karl: from what i've seen, each language right now is about 1.5GB ... compared to 20GB for a full install, was hoping to avoid the 20GB, that'll eat up my cap quickly. |
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| 15:46.26 | JunkHead | Hey. I have a question about SHadowed Unit Frames. |
| 15:46.47 | JunkHead | Is there a way to add a border highlight to show when a party member has power word shield on them? |
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| 16:23.40 | foxlit | heh, I get reproducible WORLD_MAP_UPDATE UPDATE_WORLD_STATES spam by moving five yards around Klaxxi'vess |
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| 16:42.53 | nebula169 | UPDATE_WORLD_STATES spams like crazy in throne, too |
| 16:43.34 | nebula169 | [UPDATE_WORLD_STATES] |0#0#false#Fog Beasts Remaining: 0######0#0#0" times a billion |
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| 16:44.25 | foxlit | it has arguments? |
| 16:45.25 | nebula169 | those are the returns from GetWorldStateUIInfo() |
| 16:45.42 | foxlit | what annoys me is that it causes like a 200ms stutter from the WatchFrame. |
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| 17:13.34 | Torhal|work | Eridius: It wasn't your stuff, but I just did some work on LibQTip. |
| 17:13.41 | Torhal|work | is shocked. |
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| 17:58.56 | NorxMAL | Rawr! |
| 17:59.34 | NorxMAL | I can nest loops right? |
| 18:00.30 | foxlit | yes. |
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| 18:08.38 | foxlit | I can't find the code that opens nested levels of UIDropDownMenu open :/ |
| 18:10.31 | kullervo | oh wtf now power auras stopped working midraid |
| 18:22.50 | kullervo | thankfully there was a patch on wowinterface |
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| 18:28.22 | bleeter | lol http://i.imgur.com/rUvSn7L.jpg |
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| 18:40.31 | NorxMAL | In a loop, does "in" increase the value and go up to "for" or "while" again? |
| 18:41.28 | Humbedooh | a'wha? |
| 18:43.25 | NorxMAL | nvm |
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| 18:55.54 | Fisker | looks photoshopped bleeter |
| 18:56.39 | Semlar | http://i.imgur.com/69qfV1h.jpg this may be getting out of hand |
| 18:58.07 | smcn | does the loot get better the farther you go in the new solo loot scenario? |
| 18:58.30 | Fisker | yes smcn |
| 18:59.09 | Eridius | Torhal|work: I'm shocked too! |
| 19:00.00 | Eridius | Torhal|work: I have a bug report in my tooltip code that says that tooltip:SetBackdrop(GameTooltip:GetBackdrop()) is throwing an error if ElvUI is installed (with the ElvUI tooltip module enabled). Have you ever seen GameTooltip:GetBackdrop() return either multiple values, or somethign that's not appropriate to pass to SetBackdrop()? |
| 19:06.20 | bleeter | Fisker: really? you mean you don't think Valve would put EA's TM in a condescending graphic on the Steam store?! |
| 19:06.29 | bleeter | is bleeter's disappointed spleen |
| 19:06.37 | Fisker | EA would |
| 19:06.51 | bleeter | true |
| 19:07.06 | Dagmar | EA should consider themselves lucky Valve doesn't cover their logo in spiky dicks |
| 19:08.00 | Lopeppeppy | Well, it would be true.... |
| 19:08.20 | g0urra | http://i.imgur.com/lAnTGEM.jpg |
| 19:09.23 | Eridius | whelp, glad I didn't buy that |
| 19:09.33 | bleeter | g0urra: I'd be all 'hah sucker, I'm in Australia. Our consumer law trumps your shitty Return Policy, see you in court when I find the most expensive consumer lawyers in the country' ;) |
| 19:10.23 | Eridius | bleeter: do your consumer laws prevent Origin from banning you? Because I'm pretty sure they can still ban you, which is what they'd do if you issued a chargeback |
| 19:10.51 | bleeter | I can't even get Origin to run so there's about 0 chance of me running it |
| 19:11.02 | bleeter | s/running/buying/ |
| 19:12.00 | Elkano | I can't get myself to run Origin, either... |
| 19:12.12 | bleeter | Eridius: sure, they could ban me. but if I'm after a refund on a product I'm not satisfied with in (iirc) 90 days of purchase, they can still go and get fucked with their shitty return policy anyway |
| 19:12.27 | Eridius | is there any way to get information about any guardians you currently have active? The only approach I can think of is to watch for combat log events, but that doesn't seem very ideal. |
| 19:15.48 | foxlit | Eridius: Torhal|work: I have a bug report in my tooltip code that says that tooltip:SetBackdrop(GameTooltip:GetBackdrop()) is throwing an error << some addons like to do GameTooltip:SetBackdrop(nil) |
| 19:16.04 | foxlit | that'll break your call. |
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| 20:03.41 | pompy | lawl; http://kotaku.com/5989207/the-simcity-disaster-continues-ea-disables-features-to-try-to-get-the-servers-working |
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| 20:15.46 | Cairenn | Oh yeah. They're fucked six ways to Sunday. |
| 20:16.11 | Cairenn | Amazon has pulled it from their 'shelves' |
| 20:16.50 | TC-work | I played it on the release date and had only a few problems |
| 20:17.50 | Lopeppeppy | Server load = problems. Poor things. Someone's head is gonna roll for not taking that into account. |
| 20:18.59 | Dagmar | Remember kids: Always-on DRM is for bitches. |
| 20:19.15 | smcn | EA marketing tried to cash in on the simcity name instead of calling it "SimCity Online" which is what it is, and now it's tarnishing the name. sucks for them |
| 20:19.22 | Dagmar | Lopeppeppy: You don't own Sims 3 do you |
| 20:19.44 | Dagmar | smcn: There's not really any "online" to it. It's about as "online" as Spore |
| 20:19.50 | TC-work | I wouldn't call it simcity online, I play by myself |
| 20:20.22 | smcn | except you can't play it without an internet connection and it's designed around multiplayer aspects |
| 20:20.45 | TC-work | it's as 'online' as D3 |
| 20:21.40 | TC-work | which also had a shitstorm of crap when it came out |
| 20:21.50 | TC-work | It's whatever |
| 20:22.00 | smcn | you can play wow without grouping with another player ever, it's still an mmo. my point is, if they called it "simcity online" it would still be an accurate name and would never have the kind of backlash it has |
| 20:22.52 | NorxMAL | What does "for word in" do? |
| 20:22.56 | TC-work | The issue's don't stem from the fact that people feel gypped because they have to play it online all the time, That was fairly clear from the get go. |
| 20:23.07 | TC-work | It's the fact they can't play properly. |
| 20:23.11 | NorxMAL | What do I search on google for that? |
| 20:23.31 | foxlit | NorxMAL: http://www.lua.org/manual/5.1/manual.html |
| 20:26.59 | Dagmar | "How to read programming loops" |
| 20:27.13 | Semlar | i actually answered that question the last time he asked it |
| 20:27.21 | Semlar | maybe he didn't see it |
| 20:27.41 | NorxMAL | oh :( |
| 20:28.21 | Semlar | you probably should just read the manual |
| 20:28.32 | NorxMAL | I can't find out what word is |
| 20:28.40 | Semlar | word is a variable you're assigning |
| 20:28.52 | Semlar | it could be called anything |
| 20:29.08 | NorxMAL | okay! :) |
| 20:31.16 | NorxMAL | Okay, it's hard to search for it on that page, but what does "in" do? |
| 20:31.34 | NorxMAL | increase, "is it in here"? |
| 20:37.05 | cbreak | want to see the ebnf? |
| 20:38.19 | cbreak | in is a keyword, part of this syntax: stat ::= for namelist in explist do block end namelist ::= Name {`,´ Name} |
| 20:39.53 | foxlit | I wonder if kgpanels are exportable |
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| 20:40.57 | NorxMAL | Okay, now I know what to search for :) |
| 20:42.05 | foxlit | and if they are, what's to stop someone from sneaking in a transparent, full-screen, on-top-of-everything panel that destroys all your gear? |
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| 20:50.06 | Semlar | http://i.imgur.com/VHMcGQ6.jpg |
| 20:51.42 | Semlar | who's that pokemon |
| 20:55.16 | NorxMAL | Thanks for the answer cbreak :) |
| 20:57.57 | NorxMAL | Sorry that the answer might be staring me in the eye in pages you guys link, but I have learned programming which is totally different and much simpler. It makes things actually more difficult sometimes |
| 20:58.06 | smcn | Semlar: koffing! |
| 20:58.21 | Semlar | http://i.imgur.com/luZ54jF.jpg koffing! |
| 20:58.29 | smcn | yayyyyy |
| 20:59.11 | NorxMAL | I had to start reading at C# programming references |
| 20:59.27 | NorxMAL | I didn't find lua keyword meanings |
| 21:00.25 | Semlar | alright that's it, i'm writing an addon that unregisters WORLD_MAP_UPDATE from every frame |
| 21:00.45 | Semlar | this really needs to be throttled |
| 21:04.53 | foxlit | It's only really one frame |
| 21:05.29 | Eridius | foxlit: If an addon does GameTooltip:SetBackground(nil) (and ElvUI does), why would that break my code? That would end up with me saying tooltip:SetBackground(nil), which is legal |
| 21:05.38 | foxlit | except it's not |
| 21:05.55 | foxlit | it's actually equilvant to tooltip:SetBackground() |
| 21:06.10 | foxlit | Because GetBackdrop returns nothing rather than nil if there is no backdrop. |
| 21:06.30 | Eridius | foxlit: wait, it's actually possible for foo(bar()) to pass zero args to foo() if bar() returns nothing? |
| 21:06.39 | foxlit | yes. |
| 21:06.44 | foxlit | Fix it by adding more parens. |
| 21:06.45 | Eridius | that's really surprising |
| 21:07.21 | Eridius | wow, you're right. I just tested. |
| 21:08.29 | Eridius | also, why does Blizzard like to do crazy things like return zero values from GetBackdrop() if nil was set? |
| 21:08.33 | Eridius | it's like they hate us |
| 21:09.24 | foxlit | but did you find the fix? Because it's rather hilarious (in my opinion) |
| 21:09.41 | foxlit | frame:SetBackdrop((GameTooltip:GetBackdrop())) |
| 21:09.45 | Eridius | wrapping in parens? yeah |
| 21:09.51 | Eridius | that's what I'm going to end up doing |
| 21:10.19 | Eridius | also amusingly, frame:SetBackdrop(GameTooltip:GetBackdrop(), GameTooltip:GetBackdrop()) would work ;) (well, as long as there is no backdrop) |
| 21:10.25 | Eridius | (it obviously won't work when there is one) |
| 21:11.25 | foxlit | Is that obvious? I don't think there's a second parameter, and passing too many things usually isn't a problem. |
| 21:11.48 | Eridius | foxlit: well, I mean maybe it will work. But I won't trust Blizzard code to silently ignore extra params |
| 21:12.11 | Eridius | it's usually not a problem for functions implemented in lua. But a function implemented in lua wouldn't tell the difference between zero args and 1 nil arg either |
| 21:12.21 | Eridius | unless it's using ..., in which case it could tell if there are extra args |
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| 21:12.34 | Eridius | and even if Blizzard ignores it, it's not future-safe because Blizz could one day add an optional second param |
| 21:12.52 | Eridius | it's also a lot stupider than using parens ;) |
| 21:16.36 | NorxMAL | I have tried several things, but what am I doing wrong here? http://pastebin.com/TSCuj75d |
| 21:17.45 | Eridius | NorxMAL: why are you running the match a second time? |
| 21:17.49 | Semlar | uh, you just want to use word inside the loop, not call gmatch for whatever reason |
| 21:17.51 | Eridius | and a third time |
| 21:18.10 | Eridius | and presumably you want to just say tinsert(CRTable, word) |
| 21:18.26 | NorxMAL | I want it to replace the entry in the table if it shows up one more time |
| 21:18.43 | Eridius | NorxMAL: you're rather confused |
| 21:18.49 | NorxMAL | Sorry :( |
| 21:18.50 | Semlar | you might as well be using word as the key |
| 21:18.51 | Eridius | tContains and tinsert operate on the "array portion" of a table |
| 21:18.58 | Eridius | meaning integral indexes, from 0 to #table |
| 21:19.17 | Eridius | you're writing code that's attempting to store the words as an array, but if the word is already there, then you want to replace it |
| 21:19.23 | Eridius | which doesn't make much sense anyway since you're replacing it with the same thing |
| 21:19.24 | NorxMAL | yes |
| 21:19.33 | Eridius | but if you really wanted to do this, screw the array part. Just use the word as the key |
| 21:19.46 | Eridius | the only value in using an array is if you need ordering |
| 21:19.58 | Eridius | NorxMAL: what's the goal here? |
| 21:20.01 | Semlar | i'm assuming he doesn't need the order since he wants to replace them |
| 21:20.56 | Semlar | the goal is a SECRET |
| 21:22.41 | foxlit | I've got a question: I'm contemplating people to allow to basically download WoW macros from the internet. |
| 21:23.03 | Semlar | what |
| 21:23.16 | foxlit | Those macros might be downloaded along with bindings. |
| 21:23.38 | NorxMAL | The goal is to make a table from a string which might be "1 A 1 B 2 C" and if a second string is entered which is "3 A 1 D 3 F" it will update the A from 1 to 3 |
| 21:23.56 | foxlit | On one side, that's great, because bindings can be complicated (bind to E if it's a Thursday and there is a new moon and GC posted on Hunter forums)... |
| 21:24.05 | NorxMAL | And the table would look like "3 A 1 B 2 C 1 D 3 F" |
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| 21:24.27 | foxlit | on the other, someone could maliciously specify that /run wipe(_G) should be bound to every key on your keyboard |
| 21:25.05 | Eridius | NorxMAL: does the ordering of these number/letter pairs matter? |
| 21:25.19 | NorxMAL | No |
| 21:25.20 | foxlit | What's a sane security balance there? |
| 21:25.34 | Eridius | NorxMAL: and is the letter always just a sequence of alphanumeric characters, or what? |
| 21:25.48 | NorxMAL | Any macro containing _G would be rejected? |
| 21:25.58 | Eridius | NorxMAL: getfenv() |
| 21:26.09 | Eridius | or bind every key to ReloadUI |
| 21:26.10 | Semlar | scanning for security risks is not the right approach |
| 21:26.26 | foxlit | algorithmically determining whether a script is evil is basically impossible. |
| 21:27.02 | NorxMAL | The string could also be "1 A B 2 C" Which should store as "1 A 1 B 2 C |
| 21:27.06 | Semlar | there would either have to be an approval system |
| 21:27.15 | Semlar | or people would just need to risk it |
| 21:28.02 | Semlar | or a voting system where people can check that something is dangerous |
| 21:28.09 | NorxMAL | What about having a safe keybind that would remove the last macro? |
| 21:28.20 | NorxMAL | Or last change |
| 21:28.41 | NorxMAL | Like pressing Home would revert to previous state |
| 21:29.07 | NorxMAL | Sorry if it sounds stupid |
| 21:29.58 | foxlit | It's not stupid, but I don't think that'd work. I'm simplifying things somewhat; in reality you could be getting like 20 macros, and I'm doubtful in people's ability to review them. |
| 21:30.51 | NorxMAL | Eridius, I should use getfenv(), or was it a reply to the macro thing? |
| 21:31.09 | Eridius | NorxMAL: it was a reply to the macro thing |
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| 21:31.27 | NorxMAL | okay :) |
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| 21:33.30 | NorxMAL | Where will these macros be downloaded from? |
| 21:34.54 | Eridius | NorxMAL: https://gist.github.com/kballard/5112012 |
| 21:35.17 | NorxMAL | THANKS Eridius! :) |
| 21:35.24 | Eridius | NorxMAL: please make sure you understand what I'm doing |
| 21:35.33 | Eridius | especially because I may not have captured your requirements precisely |
| 21:35.45 | foxlit | Internets, in general. Shady MSN messages or something |
| 21:35.47 | NorxMAL | I have to, since I have to make sure it fits my needs :) |
| 21:37.08 | NorxMAL | Macro download thing : If pressing a key with a keybinding to a certain macro does something funny, pressing Home will unbind the last key pressed? And Shift+Home will remove all the last macros downloaded? |
| 21:37.29 | NorxMAL | or Ctrl+Home will unbind last key pressed |
| 21:37.32 | zenzelezz | I encourage a balanced diet: https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/858876_4959208655869_1576402460_o.jpg |
| 21:38.08 | foxlit | By the time it does anything funny, it's too late to undo anything |
| 21:40.47 | NorxMAL | The only secure system is not having a system at all (not sure if that translates correctly from "the most secure website is having no website at all" xD) |
| 21:41.25 | NorxMAL | I will think some more about it foxlit :) |
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| 21:44.05 | NorxMAL | Having some voting system, macro checked by editor is a good measure? |
| 21:44.07 | Eridius | I think the only reasonable solution is to require the user to manually approve every macro/keybind set that they get. |
| 21:44.29 | Eridius | any sort of automatic pushing of macros/keybindings is where the problem comes from |
| 21:44.36 | Eridius | although subscribing to a given macro may be fine (so you get updates if the macro changes) |
| 21:44.46 | Eridius | In the end, it's no riskier than installing addons from arbitrary websites |
| 21:45.02 | NorxMAL | Where is these macros be situated? |
| 21:45.08 | NorxMAL | to be* |
| 21:47.15 | Torhal | Eridius: They set the backdrop to nil? Fuckers. |
| 21:47.33 | Torhal | I'll have to manually copy it into the lib's code then and reference that. |
| 21:49.02 | NorxMAL | If these macros are to be situated on a website you make, I can probably help you make it :) |
| 21:49.38 | NorxMAL | So people have to log in to post macros, and they can do it through facebook etc also |
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| 21:51.36 | Eridius | Torhal: yeah, I'm really curious as to what LibQTip tooltips look like for ElvUI users. I'd think that if it looked terrible than someone would have complained by now though |
| 21:51.46 | Eridius | Torhal: seems they set the backdrop to nil and insert their own frame in there |
| 21:51.58 | NorxMAL | Eridius, I just have to debug it, I have trouble concentrating right now, I have to get some food first :P |
| 21:52.41 | Torhal | Eridius: Oh, true - I've had no tickets for it so it's likely they just replace the default backdrop. In that case it's perfectly fine since the whole notion was to mimic GameTooltip. |
| 21:53.22 | Eridius | Torhal: right, but they're inserting the frame into the original GameTooltip. That's not going to be inserted into LibQTip though, or am I missing something? |
| 21:53.40 | Eridius | Torhal: for example, TipTac, which I use, also inserts a frame into GameTooltip that produces a nice gradient effect at the top. That frame isn't replicated into LibQTip |
| 21:53.45 | Eridius | (but it doesn't kill the backdrop) |
| 21:54.35 | Torhal | Eridius: If they're replacing GameTooltip wholesale, there isn't an issue since the lib just sets the tooltip's backdrop to that of GameTooltip so there's a consistent look. |
| 21:54.55 | Torhal | TipTac has to be done manually (look for TipTac in Ackis Recipe List) |
| 21:55.11 | Eridius | Torhal: I've only looked at one tiny bit of the code, but I think they're removing GameTooltip's backdrop and inserting their own frame as a child of GameTooltip. Which means GameTooltip would still be used |
| 21:55.48 | Eridius | but again, you'd think someone would have complained by now, so either nobody who uses ElvUI also uses a LibQTip-enabled addon, or there's somethign I'm missing |
| 21:56.20 | Eridius | I'm thinking tonight I'm going to have to set up an ElvUI test environment (move all my addons and WTF out of the way) so I can see what it actually looks like |
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| 22:03.35 | Adys | Namecheap now accepts Bitcoin |
| 22:03.51 | Unkle | Hot. |
| 22:03.52 | zenzelezz | Namecheap? |
| 22:04.03 | Semlar | it's a registrar |
| 22:04.05 | Unkle | they're a domain registrar |
| 22:04.14 | Unkle | I use them. Antiarc uses them |
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| 22:06.00 | durcyn | do you have to submit a picture of yourself in a fedora with your cock inside a my little pony plush before they'll take said bitcoins, or is it just implied |
| 22:07.36 | Unkle | durcyn: http://dreamcafe.com/2013/03/07/my-little-jhereg/ |
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| 22:16.57 | cogwheel | tekkub: why can't i override github's decision NOT to e-mail me about anything I do? |
| 22:17.21 | tekkub | because |
| 22:17.29 | cogwheel | ok then |
| 22:17.35 | Eridius | hai tekkub |
| 22:17.35 | TC-work | Unkle! |
| 22:18.13 | tekkub | I can't really say anything more without becoming a proxy to a designer argument |
| 22:18.16 | tekkub | and I hate that |
| 22:18.18 | tekkub | ^^ |
| 22:18.27 | cogwheel | hehe |
| 22:18.35 | Eridius | emails about your own changes suck. I hate that curseforge does that |
| 22:19.09 | Thunder_Child | Unkle: http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-HLS9hNpYbtc/T_zhpDkXEvI/AAAAAAAADkw/5ogKc6RVEP0/s1600/Vica%2BKerekes%2B9.jpg |
| 22:19.34 | cogwheel | Eridius: it's a perfectly reasonable default |
| 22:19.39 | cogwheel | i just don't see why it's not an option |
| 22:19.49 | cogwheel | at the very least i'd like to have a copy of my pull request e-mails |
| 22:23.22 | Unkle | Thunder_Child: *sigh* very nice. |
| 22:24.01 | NorxMAL | I have this problem that I get CRbuttons that I can't reuse, CRbuttons1 could be two different buttons with this "CRbutton = CreateFrame("Button", "CRbuttons"..i, CRTbuttons, "UIPanelButtonTemplate")" |
| 22:24.11 | Torhal | Thunder_Child: This is why I should probably turn off inline media in my IRC client when I'm at the office. |
| 22:24.15 | Torhal | :D |
| 22:24.45 | TC-work | Torhal: What? It's sfw |
| 22:24.48 | NorxMAL | Is there a hidden character there or something? |
| 22:24.50 | Unkle | completely. |
| 22:25.14 | Torhal | TC-work: It's as SFW as having a bikini calendar on my cubicle wall. |
| 22:25.21 | Torhal | As in, not at all. |
| 22:25.29 | Torhal | HR field day! |
| 22:25.29 | Unkle | Also SharePoint impacting Exchange performance under SBS2011 - FU MSFT. |
| 22:25.59 | TC-work | Torhal: It's not quite the same as that |
| 22:27.00 | NorxMAL | This is the code http://pastebin.com/MAb7EaCy |
| 22:27.02 | Torhal | Except for the whole "here's enormous amounts of gratuitous cleavage" part. |
| 22:27.05 | TC-work | Unkle: Semi-NSFW http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzyAl9K77I4 |
| 22:27.15 | TC-work | But it is quite amusing |
| 22:27.44 | Dagmar | Oh wow. Amazon pulled it. |
| 22:27.45 | cogwheel | Torhal: sounds like you need a new HR dept |
| 22:28.03 | Torhal | Dagmar: Sim City? Yah/ |
| 22:28.13 | cogwheel | :O |
| 22:28.41 | Unkle | TC-work: I marked it for watching at home then. |
| 22:28.44 | Torhal | cogwheel: Eh, not really. If a female co-worker wanted to, an issue could easily be made over something like that. Especially since we're operating under California sexual harassment laws. |
| 22:29.07 | Kraps | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:29.08 | Kraps | ...ok with it also resulting in multiboxing in battlegrounds also going away due to the poor experience it can create for others. |
| 22:29.18 | Kraps | did the forums melt down? |
| 22:29.50 | Kraps | yes |
| 22:30.03 | zenzelezz | I understand websites forcing a minimum number of characters in passwords... but not a maximum |
| 22:30.46 | Torhal | zenzelezz: DB fields, y0! Arbitrary limits FTW! |
| 22:30.59 | cogwheel | zenzelezz: someone has to set the field size in th....... what torhal said |
| 22:31.06 | Kraps | gimme a refund pls |
| 22:31.09 | Torhal | Something we're saddled with on CurseForge at the moment. |
| 22:31.56 | Kraps | "Though I see them changing /follow in BG's once they see a massive decline in subscriptions. " hahaha |
| 22:32.33 | Torhal | Eh, like 200 people with 7 accounts each. They've weathered worse. |
| 22:32.35 | Torhal | :D |
| 22:32.46 | NorxMAL | Oh, I think I know my problem now |
| 22:37.07 | Eridius | Torhal: why would db field limit be an issue, unless the password isn't being hashed? |
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| 22:37.54 | Torhal | Eridius: I don't know what this website is using, zenzelezz just mentioned it and it was my first thought. |
| 22:38.18 | Eridius | Torhal: fair enough, I thought you were suggesting curseforge did that |
| 22:38.40 | Torhal | No, no, no. We do have some silly arbitrary limits on certain fields though |
| 22:39.34 | Eridius | Torhal: speaking of curseforge, is there any proper venue I can use to complain about subscription emails including my own changes? |
| 22:39.52 | Eridius | and the lack of emails on PMs |
| 22:40.11 | nebula169 | man, i think i stopped getting subscription emails like two years ago, lol |
| 22:40.20 | Torhal | It's been complained about for years, but other stuff keeps being put on the front burner. |
| 22:40.29 | Eridius | :/ |
| 22:40.32 | Torhal | Indeed :/ |
| 22:40.45 | Torhal | All I can give you is Soon (™). |
| 22:40.48 | Eridius | hah |
| 22:41.27 | Unkle | Remember, the Curse Dev team is fueled by whiskey and vodka. You can speed things up by helping them reach the Balmer Peak... |
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| 22:41.54 | Eridius | Unkle: the Ballmer Peak is unstable. There is no equilibrium there. Attempting to reach it is folly |
| 22:42.12 | Unkle | beautiful, drunken folly. |
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| 22:43.07 | Torhal | Unkle: You forgot tequila. |
| 22:43.22 | Unkle | I'm deliberately trying to forget tequila. |
| 22:43.31 | Torhal | Everyone does that. |
| 22:43.33 | Torhal | :D |
| 22:43.43 | TC-work | It just never works |
| 22:43.53 | Eridius | you're not drinking the right tequila then |
| 22:46.01 | Unkle | All my good stories from BC start with "And then Ackis drank tequila..." |
| 22:46.08 | kd3 | oh wtf |
| 22:46.13 | kd3 | just failed Target: Turtle |
| 22:46.19 | Eridius | anyone here in San Francisco? Best tequila in the united states can be found here |
| 22:47.19 | Unkle | I'm just North of there. And are you talking about Hanger 1? |
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| 22:47.32 | Eridius | I don't know what that is. I'm talking about Tommy's Mexican Restaurant |
| 22:47.34 | cogwheel | i am |
| 22:47.39 | cogwheel | standing in SF |
| 22:47.40 | Eridius | http://www.tommystequila.com |
| 22:48.14 | cogwheel | i think we should have a WoWUI meetup when GDC's in town |
| 22:48.33 | Eridius | the owner, Julio Bermejo (Tommy's son), was officially named by a state of Mexico to be their Ambassador of Tequila to the United States |
| 22:48.44 | Eridius | he also married into the Herradura family |
| 22:48.47 | Unkle | Yes please. |
| 22:48.56 | Eridius | he's largely responsible for the resurgent popularity of tequila in the united states |
| 22:49.30 | Unkle | cogwheel: seconded. |
| 22:52.01 | cogwheel | Might be able to convince TinyCo to provide food & booze... <.< |
| 22:52.58 | Unkle | >.> |
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| 23:38.23 | Arrow|phone | Just got seated at Neil deGrasse Tyson lecture, in almost the back of the room, its now standing only left |
| 23:39.16 | A-KO | nice |
| 23:39.38 | A-KO | Arrow|phone you going to blizzcon again this year? |
| 23:39.51 | Arrow|phone | Yeah |
| 23:42.05 | Arrow|phone | Have sale date been announced yet |
| 23:43.48 | A-KO | not yet |
| 23:43.53 | A-KO | bah |
| 23:43.56 | A-KO | it's dark outside....meh |
| 23:46.32 | Arrow|phone | I have a job now so going to blizzcon won't be a complete money sink |
| 23:47.54 | Arrow|phone | My photo isn't uploading |
| 23:48.28 | Eridius | hrm, lua doesn't optimize access to _G into direct GETGLOBAL/SETGLOBAL calls? |
| 23:51.09 | Eridius | eh I guess GETGLOBAL only works with constants |
| 23:51.43 | Eridius | still, interesting performance implications for code that uses _G.foo instead of just foo as a stylistic choice |
| 23:52.37 | nebula169 | not in particular, isntead of not seeing foo and jumping up scope, it just doesn't see _G and jumps up a scope |
| 23:53.17 | Eridius | nebula169: if I access foo, that's just a GETGLOBAL for the constant "foo". If I access _G, that's a GETGLOBAL for "_G" followed by a GETTABLE for "foo" |
| 23:53.42 | Eridius | (this is assuming that foo is a global and not an upvalue, otherwise the two code snippets aren't interchangeable) |
| 23:56.36 | foxlit | there are no guarantees that _G is actually the global table. |
| 23:58.29 | Eridius | foxlit: d'oh. I assumed _G was special, but you're right, if I change the environment I don't need to provide _G |
| 23:58.45 | Eridius | so I guess truly safe code that needed to force global access needs to say getfenv(), right? |
| 23:59.13 | Mr_Rabies | that awkward moment when the tradeforwarder forwarder on your realm is currently a terrible, terrible troll |
| 23:59.18 | Mr_Rabies | :( |
