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| 00:16.12 | bleeter | http://everyfuckingwebsite.com/ |
| 00:17.43 | Fisker | hemad bleeter |
| 00:18.40 | bleeter | rarlymad |
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| 00:48.02 | Alram | why dont you do wine bugs anymore Adys??????? |
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| 01:03.53 | bleeter | Adys: moar whine bugz... MOAR!!!! |
| 01:04.02 | bluspacecow | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfpL6_0OBuA |
| 01:04.04 | bluspacecow | LOL |
| 01:04.58 | bleeter | what I wanna know is: why did it take this long for the internet to discover the power of goat? |
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| 01:19.07 | smcn | awesome, i can reproducibly break the pet battle with farmer nishi by using magma wave on toothbreaker when he uses sons of the root |
| 01:32.14 | karl_w_w | pet battles with smcn and breaks him |
| 01:34.39 | foxlit | The "Defaults" button in the Interface Options frame is frustrating. |
| 01:35.01 | foxlit | Should it reset all the settings? Just the settings you can see at the moment? |
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| 02:14.21 | Mr_Rabies | the system settings panel in WoW itself asks if you want to reset all settings or just the ones on the page you're on |
| 02:14.53 | Mr_Rabies | i dunno about defaults in the interface panel |
| 02:14.56 | Mr_Rabies | i'm afraid to click it D: |
| 02:15.42 | tzarc | back up your WTF folder beforehand? |
| 02:16.16 | tzarc | or if you're sadistic like me, put the whole thing into source control |
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| 02:31.01 | F16Gaming | tzarc: wat |
| 02:35.01 | Adys | "The Vatican admitted on Thursday that it had secretly bugged clergy within the Holy See as part of the investigation into the Vatileaks scandal, which resulted in the Pope's butler being imprisoned for stealing confidential pontifical documents." |
| 02:35.05 | Adys | Top headlines 2013 |
| 02:36.08 | Dagmar | They're not just "official" documents... They're pontificial documents. |
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| 02:36.13 | Dagmar | Fancy! |
| 02:37.18 | Shirik | the Holy See? |
| 02:38.02 | F16Gaming | you get it for free when you buy the holy hear |
| 02:38.05 | Iriel | I'm guessing "Holy City" |
| 02:40.23 | tzarc | it's kinda like the ruling party for want of a better description |
| 02:40.36 | tzarc | not the city |
| 02:40.42 | tzarc | even though it's based there ;P |
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| 03:27.32 | Mr_Rabies | holy lol |
| 03:27.34 | Mr_Rabies | feng bugged out |
| 03:27.37 | Mr_Rabies | never went to phase 3 |
| 03:28.01 | Mr_Rabies | we did phase 1 until 33% |
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| 03:31.35 | Shirik | feeling ok? |
| 03:31.48 | Shirik | apparently he's not here |
| 03:37.51 | Thunder_Child | you missed the split Shirik |
| 03:38.00 | Thunder_Child | "<= Netsplit between *.net and *.split. Users quit: p3lim, p3lim____, p3lim___, p3lim__, Ycarene" |
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| 03:59.51 | pompy | http://www.facebook.com/ApSci/posts/10151492233310605 |
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| 04:06.31 | Cairenn | Ackis: some days I truly hate people |
| 04:06.49 | Ackis | Cairenn: most days I hate people |
| 04:07.35 | Cairenn | But then I think about the people I don't hate - ie those that rescue animals and then those that adopt those rescues |
| 04:09.08 | Ackis | someone came to the door and Kodi started barking and ran downstairs... Chantelle shooed him upstairs and I went down to pick him up, and when I touched his hind quarters he acted like he was shot... yelping, scrambling, and just being terrified :( |
| 04:09.18 | Cairenn | :( |
| 04:09.42 | Cairenn | poor little thing |
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| 04:42.14 | karl_w_w | http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=528503213854444&set=a.416129855091781.88204.208009342570501&type=1&relevant_count=1&ref=nf |
| 04:42.17 | karl_w_w | wtaf? |
| 04:42.47 | Seerah | I'm convinced these people don't own mirrors |
| 04:43.31 | Thunder_Child | or eyes |
| 04:43.34 | Thunder_Child | or brains |
| 04:43.50 | Seerah | hehehe |
| 04:44.33 | Shirik | he seriously looks like he's wearing a diaper |
| 04:44.57 | Seerah | a full one |
| 04:47.51 | Cairenn | I just don't understand that fad |
| 04:53.17 | Shirik | this is a fad? |
| 04:53.25 | Shirik | I am just now learning of this |
| 04:54.08 | Cairenn | well, whatever you want to call it |
| 04:54.27 | Shirik | no seriously |
| 04:54.30 | Shirik | this isn't a one-off thing? |
| 04:54.47 | Cairenn | wearing their pants down around their knees? |
| 04:55.01 | Shirik | I was more approaching the angle of "looking like you're wearing a diaper" |
| 04:55.06 | Cairenn | ah |
| 04:55.07 | Shirik | because it looks like his pants are all the way up |
| 04:55.28 | Shirik | however yes |
| 04:55.49 | Shirik | I've always been amused by the whole baggy jeans concept because it seems self-defeating to criminals |
| 04:56.06 | Shirik | gang members love to wear them, yet when they need to run away from the cops, they have to keep holding up their pants the whole time |
| 04:56.22 | Cairenn | it'd defeat something when they land in prison, too .... |
| 04:56.28 | Shirik | you would think they'd have opted for tights or something instead |
| 04:56.32 | Shirik | rofl |
| 04:56.44 | bluworkcow | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:57.40 | Thunder_Child | I dunno Shirik, it's hard to be gangsta' in tights |
| 04:57.53 | Shirik | but they get to DEFINE what gangsta looks like |
| 04:58.20 | Thunder_Child | Except tights are already taken, stupid baggy jeans like that is not |
| 04:58.20 | bluworkcow | nah it's easy |
| 04:58.27 | karl_w_w | they should wear kilts |
| 04:58.28 | Thunder_Child | for obvious reasons i would thing |
| 04:58.31 | Thunder_Child | think* |
| 04:58.32 | bluworkcow | you just put a 9mm piece down the back of your trousers |
| 04:58.54 | bluworkcow | *things Thunder_Child* |
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| 06:31.26 | Torhal | flashes gang signs at bluipodcow. |
| 06:31.35 | bluipodcow | Lol |
| 06:31.39 | bluipodcow | Wot do |
| 06:31.49 | Torhal | o.O |
| 06:31.51 | Torhal | O.o |
| 06:31.54 | Torhal | o.o |
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| 13:02.44 | flugh | *taptap* does this thing work? just testing my browser |
| 13:03.41 | mikma | fapfap |
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| 13:05.30 | mikma | bluspacecow: did i show this one to you yet? http://mikma.eu/louhinta/Vuores_27.2.2012.avi |
| 13:05.45 | bluspacecow | have now |
| 13:05.47 | bluspacecow | :) |
| 13:06.49 | bluspacecow | oh yes! last week! |
| 13:06.52 | mikma | bluspacecow: also, http://mikma.eu/louhinta/Sastamala_2013/Sastamala_11.2.2013-14.44.avi this? |
| 13:08.05 | bluspacecow | that last one i haven't seen yet. those yellow cabins are quite distinctive |
| 13:09.25 | mikma | common cabins to have at construction sites |
| 13:12.09 | flugh | fema trailers? |
| 13:12.24 | flugh | they are common to have down here in the oil patch. /shrug |
| 13:12.32 | flugh | cheap too |
| 13:15.05 | mikma | no, they're not trailers, just portable cabins :P |
| 13:16.04 | flugh | well, "trailer" may sound a bit grandiose. these things are about... 22 feet long? a nice single guy man-cave, but not lavish at all |
| 13:20.10 | mikma | http://www.parmaco.fi/english/products/worksite_facilities.html |
| 13:23.58 | flugh | but in defense of my fema trailer, the company pays for it, so i live for free while making about... 1.5-2k per week. can't bitch about that /happydance |
| 13:29.25 | flugh | i'm a noob to this wow UI thing (familiar a bit with php, C, database/sql stuff). i have a project in mind. would like to start with an addon that updates char info on each login+subzone change, etc. |
| 13:29.48 | flugh | i want it in an lua file for parsing by another external program. where should i start? |
| 13:31.54 | mikma | notepad++ |
| 13:32.01 | flugh | (waiting on BG Q to pop, so tabbing in and out, thanks in advance for any suggestions) |
| 13:32.33 | flugh | i prefer pspad but thanks |
| 13:32.42 | flugh | well, i like vim, but not in linux atm |
| 13:33.32 | flugh | and console in windows is painful, so not really looking to cygwin it ;) |
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| 13:40.20 | flugh | actually, in these days of virtual machines, not sure if cygwin is even around any more. no need for it if you can just fire up virtualbox right? |
| 13:40.27 | flugh | it's hell getting old |
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| 15:11.57 | Fisker | super stable internet Grum |
| 15:12.50 | Semlar | is there a good way to turn a list of values into a table without it removing the nil indexes |
| 15:13.02 | Semlar | other than calling select a bunch of times |
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| 15:29.30 | karl_w_w | do you know how long the list is Semlar? |
| 15:29.56 | Semlar | i can get it from select("#", ...) |
| 15:30.22 | Semlar | this is what i have http://pastebin.com/jBNF5a9g |
| 15:30.51 | Semlar | i'm using it on functions like this http://www.wowpedia.org/API_GetGossipAvailableQuests |
| 15:31.12 | Semlar | because i need to be able to split the list into groups |
| 15:31.26 | Semlar | and just using {GetGossipAvailableQuests} removes the nil entries |
| 15:32.28 | Semlar | but calling "select" for every single entry seems like a horrible way to do it |
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| 15:38.14 | karl_w_w | is #... valid? |
| 15:38.47 | jnwhiteh | karl_w_w: select("#", ...) |
| 15:39.11 | karl_w_w | but |
| 15:39.13 | jnwhiteh | you can write a trivial function to pack it into a table and store the length, so no entries are lost |
| 15:39.18 | Semlar | #... appears to just return 1 |
| 15:39.35 | jnwhiteh | lua> select("#", 1, 2, 3) |
| 15:39.48 | Semlar | yeah i know i wrote a function with that |
| 15:40.09 | Semlar | this is what i have jnwhiteh http://pastebin.com/jBNF5a9g |
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| 15:40.24 | Semlar | i was trying to figure out a way to do it without calling select for every entry |
| 15:40.25 | jnwhiteh | umm |
| 15:41.01 | jnwhiteh | function table.pack(...) local n = select("#", ...); t = {...}; t.n = n; return t end |
| 15:41.29 | jnwhiteh | lua> select("#", 1, 2, 3) |
| 15:41.30 | lua_bot | jnwhiteh: 3 |
| 15:41.34 | Semlar | i need to split it into groups though |
| 15:41.49 | karl_w_w | lua> select("#", 1, 1, 1) |
| 15:41.50 | lua_bot | karl_w_w: 3 |
| 15:41.52 | Semlar | like every n entries need to go into a table |
| 15:42.11 | jnwhiteh | is there an issue with what you have, then? |
| 15:42.16 | Semlar | no it works |
| 15:42.20 | jnwhiteh | sorry, i came to this mid-conversation |
| 15:42.29 | Semlar | it's just not very efficient |
| 15:42.45 | Semlar | it doesn't really matter that much i was just wondering if there was a better way to do it |
| 15:42.55 | jnwhiteh | if you dont have to optimize it, don't =) |
| 15:43.11 | Semlar | i just try to avoid too many function calls with lua |
| 15:43.24 | jnwhiteh | that seems silly |
| 15:43.29 | jnwhiteh | especially for a VM language |
| 15:44.39 | karl_w_w | it's thinking like that which leads to a UI with addons having <half the FPS of UIs without :P |
| 15:44.40 | Semlar | is it possible to just call select on an index and slice off the rest of the table so it only gets n entries |
| 15:45.30 | jnwhiteh | karl_w_w: no, not at all |
| 15:45.33 | jnwhiteh | bad programming does that |
| 15:45.37 | jnwhiteh | simple things you can avoid |
| 15:45.44 | jnwhiteh | like creating garbage OnUpdate |
| 15:45.49 | jnwhiteh | causing event loops |
| 15:45.58 | jnwhiteh | premature optimization is just plain silly |
| 15:46.47 | znf | I'll ask here too, maybe someone knows. I have a mobo fixed in a case, 3 metal screws and 6 white plastic screws like this: http://www2.pccables.com/images/03002.jpg -- how the f* do I remove it from the case? |
| 15:46.51 | Semlar | i'm not worried about this causing an issue, but i want to know if there's a better way to do it so i don't do this again in something that it might actually affect |
| 15:47.00 | jnwhiteh | because if you're doing it, you almost certainly know enough about the language or environment to actually know what needs to be changed and why. |
| 15:47.50 | karl_w_w | with pliers and 6 new plastic studs, znf :P |
| 15:48.01 | znf | karl_w_w, that's the last solution I was looking for :D |
| 15:48.12 | Semlar | those are just standoffs |
| 15:48.17 | Caleb| | znf you have to push together the triangle looking like end then push it at the tip |
| 15:48.52 | Semlar | yeah you should be able to pinch the arrow part together and pull it up |
| 15:48.53 | znf | Caleb|, yeah, figured as much, but I can't picture how I would do that to 6 of them simultaneously |
| 15:49.02 | znf | and I don't have that small hands |
| 15:49.12 | Caleb| | why would you need to do it simultaneously? |
| 15:49.21 | znf | they revert back to their position? |
| 15:49.22 | Semlar | you can't pull them out one at a time? |
| 15:49.30 | Caleb| | you should be able to |
| 15:49.34 | Semlar | no you pull it out of the mobo |
| 15:49.55 | znf | uhm, maybe I should clarify - the pointy tip is upwards |
| 15:50.04 | karl_w_w | isnt the bottom attached to the case sometimes? |
| 15:50.04 | znf | so the mobo was impaled in them |
| 15:50.14 | znf | the bottom looks like a screw |
| 15:50.38 | Semlar | you can't just gently lift up the motherboard off of that standoff and go to the next one? |
| 15:50.38 | znf | it's not exactly like the one in the picture |
| 15:51.05 | znf | I'll try it, I guess. Last resort is just to cut them forcibly. I have replacements |
| 15:51.12 | Semlar | i would probably just decapitate them |
| 15:51.26 | Semlar | if they're that much of a pain in the ass |
| 15:51.46 | znf | I was trying to be gentle, but that's the last resort :D |
| 15:52.10 | karl_w_w | use a chainsaw |
| 15:52.36 | znf | karl_w_w, if everything else fails... :) |
| 15:52.38 | znf | thanks for the tips |
| 15:52.52 | Semlar | are those the only thing holding the motherboard in? |
| 15:54.30 | Semlar | i hate these plastic things, i had a hell of a time getting a heatsink off because it used something like this |
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| 16:00.00 | karl_w_w | jesus this weather, 20 C, sounds perfect right? |
| 16:00.11 | karl_w_w | 92% humidity, nooooot perfect |
| 16:03.43 | karl_w_w | soon rain shall form at ground level |
| 16:06.14 | Fisker | hey jnwhiteh |
| 16:06.29 | jnwhiteh | Fisker: hi |
| 16:06.37 | Fisker | :) |
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| 16:28.23 | Grum | Fisker: meh yeah that was horrible indeed ... wtf :( |
| 16:28.50 | karl_w_w | blame SOPA |
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| 16:42.37 | Fisker | just like quakenet did back in the itme |
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| 21:09.21 | Mr_Rabies | oh god |
| 21:09.27 | Mr_Rabies | two healers in a scenario |
| 21:09.28 | Mr_Rabies | really? |
| 21:09.32 | Mr_Rabies | and we wiped on the second pull |
| 21:09.33 | Mr_Rabies | lol |
| 21:10.13 | Mr_Rabies | i really wish they would require you to queue up for scenarios in dps spec :( |
| 21:13.13 | Lord_Calin | I dunno about that... since half the heal specs now do more dps then dps specs |
| 21:13.58 | Mr_Rabies | i...haven't seen that at all O_o |
| 21:14.18 | Lord_Calin | holy does just as much dps as shadow in the right setup... and monk fistweavers |
| 21:18.28 | zenzelezz | "2ce"... now that's the most funky way I've seen someone write "twice" |
| 21:20.07 | mikma | cairenn|afk: http://imgur.com/gallery/8ZQKexq |
| 21:21.52 | Shirik | http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5hVfaeLlWN4M87KZzKdkDFFOyOM_g?docId=CNG.34ffec098b196a075a3af1c6a97fdc2f.541 |
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| 21:38.23 | Corv | Weekly currency caps reset at 3AM Pacific, like daily quests, right? |
| 21:39.01 | kd3 | afaik |
| 21:40.55 | Jammer | yes |
| 21:40.59 | Humbedooh | tharper: no, I was in Portland, so no melodifestivalen for me |
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| 22:48.04 | zenzelezz | so I enabled mobile alerts on my Battle.net account. Now Blizzard has sent me three "Mobile Alert messages are now active." messages in the course of four minutes |
| 22:49.11 | zenzelezz | make that four |
| 22:50.01 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:51.16 | zenzelezz | looks reasonable. Are those icons user selected, or predefined? |
| 22:51.55 | Seerah | foxlit: how would someone know how to import without trying to export first? |
| 22:52.46 | Seerah | maybe that would be too much hand-holding |
| 22:53.02 | foxlit | zenzelezz: they reflect the abilities in this case. |
| 22:53.49 | Seerah | yeah, nvm what I said :) |
| 22:54.00 | foxlit | Seerah: if they pass through the New Ring dialog at any point, the bottom hint should be relevant. |
| 22:54.28 | Seerah | I think it's good :) |
| 22:55.12 | foxlit | I think I'd prefer to replace the "import" verb, but I can't think of anything better at the moment. |
| 22:56.36 | Seerah | I think import is fine. it's something people will understand, too |
| 22:58.52 | foxlit | Compare replacing export with share. |
| 23:06.14 | Seerah | hmm... still... I think it's fine. Unless you want "create a new ring from a shared snapshot" |
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| 23:16.41 | Corv | Does the "New Ring" button always give the dialog seen in the third shot? |
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| 23:17.39 | Corv | I feel like "New" and "Import" are different actions. |
| 23:18.14 | Seerah | you can create a new ring from scratch or from shared settings, though |
| 23:18.50 | Corv | Sure. But I'd expect different buttons for each? Or am I missing something? |
| 23:20.22 | Seerah | they're just merged into one window. Like when you add a new friend in WoW. If you enter an email address, the new friend is a RealID friend. If you just enter in a character name, it's a regular friends list entry |
| 23:20.50 | foxlit | Corv: yes, it always displays that dialog. Button captions will probably change if you paste in a snapshot. |
| 23:21.02 | Seerah | you either enter in a name for a new ring (which creates one from scratch) or enter in a snapshot |
| 23:21.41 | Corv | It doesn't strike me as intuitive that the "new ring name" can either be something descriptive or import gibberish. |
| 23:22.18 | Seerah | either way, you're adding/creating a new ring to your setup |
| 23:22.50 | Corv | Do the names get used anywhere? Does the import string carry the author's ring's name? |
| 23:23.19 | Seerah | good question :) |
| 23:23.20 | foxlit | yes and yes. |
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| 23:24.33 | foxlit | I agree that the top label on the input box is a bit imprecise; hence the smaller annotation about using it to do something else below. |
| 23:25.37 | Corv | Possibly take that Blizzard Add Friend example and follow that path: Clearly state that it can either be "A" OR "B" |
| 23:27.09 | Corv | One other nitpick. I'm guessing that between shots one and two, we've hit the "Share ring" button? |
| 23:27.15 | foxlit | yes. |
| 23:27.40 | Corv | Why does the "how to import" hint only show after trying to export your own? And why down there? |
| 23:30.17 | foxlit | Assumptions and opportunities, mostly. |
| 23:30.51 | foxlit | The old "Take a snapshot..." hint becomes redundant when you've clicked the button, so I can replace it with something relevant |
| 23:31.32 | foxlit | You're somewhat likely to read it since you're focusing on that area, and it just changed. |
| 23:32.08 | Corv | It's related, but not relevant to the user that's about to do the sharing. Unless the person sharing is responsible for giving others (probably new users?) the how-to on importing. |
| 23:33.26 | foxlit | If you're merely exploring the interface, it makes sense to give you the other piece of the sharing/importing puzzle at that point. |
| 23:34.45 | Corv | But it's a piece you aren't necessarily going to use. The people who *will* use it are new users who just want to import something they found on a blog or forum. |
| 23:35.47 | Corv | Like, if I decide I want to get into PvP, and Cynwise's blog says "Try OPie and import these", I'm going to be looking for Import, Create, or New. "Share" is the last thing I'll look at, because it's on the wrong end of the process. |
| 23:36.00 | foxlit | On some level, I think the person/blog/forum thread doing the sharing is also responsible for explaining how to import. |
| 23:36.51 | Corv | Ideally, they will, but then you're relying on someone else, of unknown trustworthiness, to exercise due diligence. |
| 23:37.12 | foxlit | But even if that doesn't happen, I don't think there's enough UI to get lost in -- you're inevitably going to end up in the New Ring dialog. |
| 23:37.48 | foxlit | (when you open that panel, the only two visible widgets are the dropdown menu ("Select a ring to modify") and the "New Ring" button -- not much choice) |
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| 23:39.09 | Corv | That's not so bad, then. The hint still feels a little odd, but defensible. |
| 23:40.37 | Corv | I would possibly rename "New Ring" to "Create Ring", because New tends to mean "blank/default slate" |
| 23:43.05 | foxlit | I think "Create Ring" is awkwardly missing an adjective; the wording in the old version is "Create New Ring" for this reason. |
| 23:44.19 | Corv | What other type of ring would you create? Creation would seem to imply... |
| 23:44.23 | Corv | But that's really minor. =P |
| 23:45.20 | foxlit | An implicit (this), for some reason. |
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| 23:49.17 | foxlit | I am, of course, being lazy by reusing the single edit box in that dialog. More widgets would make sense; some sort of "Empty Ring/From snapshot" switch and an additional input box would be good. |
| 23:52.05 | foxlit | And what happens after the pictures interaction ends is in many ways more scary -- presumably, you paste something into the box, it recognizes the text as a snapshot, replaces it with the snapshot's ring name, and changes button/hint text. |
| 23:54.09 | Corv | Reusing the edit box is fine as long as the overloading is made perfectly clear to the user. |
| 23:54.17 | Corv | And yeah, I would expect it to be a nightmare. |
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| 23:59.42 | Corv | Ugh. os.time requires year/month/day, no option for just using yday? Gotta handle the month wraparound manually? Yuck. |
