| 00:06.30 | TC-work | So I am doing random passwords for google apps accounts. 8 'a' in a row, weak. 13 in a row, fair. 15 in a row, weak. |
| 00:06.38 | TC-work | uh...what |
| 00:06.41 | smcn | lol |
| 00:06.49 | TC-work | 16 goe sback to fair |
| 00:06.52 | TC-work | goes back* |
| 00:07.47 | TC-work | oh, 20 goes back to weak. Must be it doesnt like multiples of 5 |
| 00:08.05 | Semlar|Laptop | good luck cracking a 20 character password |
| 00:08.44 | foxlit | hey, as long as the 20 characters are all identical... :P |
| 00:09.37 | Semlar|Laptop | well, yeah if you know the whole password is all one character |
| 00:13.49 | foxlit | but checking those first is essentially free :) |
| 00:14.37 | Semlar|Laptop | you wouldn't |
| 00:15.22 | Semlar|Laptop | unless you knew the length you'd go through the shorter iterations first |
| 00:16.42 | foxlit | In this hypothetical situation, have I or have I not already downloaded a car? |
| 00:22.54 | TC-work | Depends if you Fisker or not, foxlit |
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| 01:16.57 | karl_w_w | you know what i don't understand? why the asker is allowed to pick the best answer on yahoo answers |
| 01:17.37 | karl_w_w | surely the person asking should be the least qualified to decide what the best answer was |
| 01:24.32 | TC-work | It's usually what helped them the most |
| 01:30.38 | Motig | Have you considered posting your question to yahoo answers |
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| 01:43.04 | bleeter | https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BEHVqjGCUAEWQYV.jpg:large |
| 01:43.07 | bleeter | Motig++ |
| 02:12.33 | kd3 | ...a live patch? |
| 02:14.28 | Stanzilla | yeah just wondered the same |
| 02:14.31 | Stanzilla | wtf is going on |
| 02:15.15 | kd3 | it appears that they reshipped 16357 (5.1.0a) for some reason |
| 02:17.56 | Arrowmaster | karl_w_w: stackexchange works the same way |
| 02:20.35 | Stanzilla | eu just got the same, kd3 |
| 02:20.42 | kd3 | yah, just got the ping |
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| 02:30.39 | pompy | http://youtu.be/7XwufPIVfMI damn some serious shit lol. |
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| 02:34.38 | Ackis | anyone familiar with USPS? https://tools.usps.com/go/TrackConfirmAction_input?strOrigTrackNum=LK029308230US what does that tracking info tell me? |
| 02:35.43 | kd3 | it left austin on jan 17. the usps stops caring about it once it leaves the us |
| 02:36.43 | Ackis | but tx is on the opposite side of the US that Canada is... won't it go to a border station nearer to Canada first? |
| 02:43.24 | TC-work | ugh, memoization is hurting my brain. |
| 02:44.15 | TC-work | Ackis: if they have a hub in TX they would do a flight from there. |
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| 03:03.44 | Ackis | I hate post offices |
| 03:05.02 | Torhal | mails Ackis to a post office. |
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| 03:14.26 | zachwlewis | How do I detect when a user pressed a key to close a frame (like how pressing Escape closes a merchant window)? |
| 03:15.59 | kd3 | is there a particular frame you're concerned about? or just in general |
| 03:17.12 | zachwlewis | I have an addon that displays a franme to work from, but right now, mashing escape will bring up the system menu over my frame, and I'd like for it to close like other frames do. |
| 03:18.42 | kd3 | ah, there's a flag you can set for that |
| 03:18.45 | kd3 | tries to remember which |
| 03:22.02 | Stanzilla | register system dialog something |
| 03:22.07 | Stanzilla | can't remember either |
| 03:22.25 | Stanzilla | special frame? |
| 03:22.28 | Stanzilla | something like that |
| 03:22.59 | zachwlewis | Hmm, so it's a variable in the base Template? |
| 03:23.59 | Stanzilla | I think uispecialframes (or whatever it was) is a table |
| 03:24.09 | Stanzilla | and you add the name of your frame to the table |
| 03:25.00 | zachwlewis | Ah, I just push it into the list, and that is the close order? |
| 03:25.12 | kd3 | http://www.wowpedia.org/Make_frames_closable_with_the_Escape_key |
| 03:25.23 | zachwlewis | Like how at merchants it will close your bag first, then the merchant frame? |
| 03:27.05 | zachwlewis | Yeah, exactly like that. |
| 03:27.17 | zachwlewis | It pops the frames off the stack and closes them. |
| 03:27.34 | zachwlewis | Awesome find. Thanks kd3 and Stanzilla. |
| 03:27.49 | kd3 | knew we had a howto for that somewhere, just had to use the right search terms |
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| 03:42.32 | Ackis | I love you Torhal |
| 03:42.53 | Torhal | And here I thought you were just a stalker. |
| 03:44.02 | Ackis | no, it's true love |
| 03:44.21 | Torhal | kk |
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| 04:01.28 | zachwlewis | Do any of you use Sublime Text 2 to work on your software? |
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| 04:05.16 | Torhal | When dealing with Python. For Lua I use sylvanaar's IntelliJ plugin. |
| 04:05.48 | Torhal | I haven't looked at this yet since it's Windows-only, but: http://unknownworlds.com/blog/lua-ide-decoda-open-source/ |
| 04:07.56 | zachwlewis | Torhal: What does Decoda do for me? Does it just have Lua syntax highlighting? |
| 04:08.20 | zachwlewis | I'm having a hard time figuring out what its features are other than "We made Natural Selection 2 with it" and "It's on Github." :P |
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| 04:09.10 | zachwlewis | "integrated" and "debugging" are also things they are saying about it. |
| 04:09.13 | Torhal | Like I said, I haven't tried it since it's Windows-only. |
| 04:09.15 | Torhal | I'm on a Mac :) |
| 04:09.25 | Eridius | Mac ftw |
| 04:09.35 | Eridius | Torhal: is Curse Client for Mac ever gonna get an upgrade? |
| 04:09.40 | Torhal | But apparently it was purpose-designed for game scripting. |
| 04:09.50 | Torhal | Eridius: I wish I knew. :/ |
| 04:10.20 | Eridius | Torhal: It's gotten to the point that I need to delete all my symlinks for development addons from my Interface dir before launching Curse or it'll get into an endless loop of stacking ever-more alerts |
| 04:10.22 | Torhal | I also wish I knew when I'll not be burned out from the office so I can actually get back to my WoW stuff. |
| 04:10.24 | Eridius | kind of hilarious, really |
| 04:10.41 | zachwlewis | Torhal: Yeah, at work I lean heavily on Visual Studio and the nFringe plugin for debugging UnrealScript. The old editor couldn't debug script, so you basically had to blast the logs with everything. |
| 04:11.19 | zachwlewis | Eridius: I'm actually working on some software to solve that problem. |
| 04:11.34 | Eridius | oh? |
| 04:11.48 | zachwlewis | Eridius: It's a small tool that basically reads from a file (like a .gitignore) and deploys to a target folder. |
| 04:12.10 | Eridius | zachwlewis: eh, I just have a shell script that removes and restores the symlinks |
| 04:13.12 | zachwlewis | Eridius: That way, you can keep all your raw assets and development mumbo-jumbo in the dev folder where it should be (your revision control files, your unit tests, et cetera), then just run a shell script to deploy a clean version to your game directory. |
| 04:14.08 | zachwlewis | Eridius: Also, when you go to publish, it only wraps the appropriate files, zips 'em up, and will even return an md5 hash value of the archive (if you're worried about people downloading hacked versions of your software). |
| 04:14.40 | zachwlewis | Which makes agile and "update often" techniques less troublesome. |
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| 04:22.32 | zachwlewis | Torhal: So, here's the actual Decoda frontpage. http://unknownworlds.com/decoda/ |
| 04:22.44 | zachwlewis | Torhal: With actual useful information on it. |
| 04:23.57 | Torhal | Huh, nice. |
| 04:29.25 | zachwlewis | Torhal: It would seem that the perks here would be auto-complete, symbol browsing and some form of intellisense. |
| 04:29.58 | zachwlewis | Torhal: But, I think you'd have to write some custom stuff (or, the community would), to seamlessly handle the XML integration side of things. |
| 04:30.09 | Torhal | The Lua plugin for IntelliJ has that after a fashion, but I've found it to not be wholly consistent. |
| 04:31.41 | zachwlewis | One thing that I've seen is hardly anyone actually uses the schema that Blizzard created for their UI. They just read it as XML, and that's not super duper handy. |
| 04:33.47 | Torhal | I try as much as possible to not even deal with the XML since there aren't really any good tools outside of Blizzard for it. |
| 04:34.05 | zachwlewis | Torhal: D: |
| 04:34.27 | zachwlewis | HAVE YOU LEARNED NOTHING FROM 20 YEAR OF INTERNET? |
| 04:34.45 | Torhal | 24 for me, but... |
| 04:34.46 | Torhal | >.> |
| 04:34.48 | Torhal | <.< |
| 04:34.48 | zachwlewis | Your views are not your controllers! |
| 04:35.02 | zachwlewis | Views should be kept seperate from content, man. |
| 04:35.09 | zachwlewis | Or else you've got updates in your draw calls. |
| 04:35.13 | Torhal | They're called Lua factories! |
| 04:35.15 | zachwlewis | And draw calls in your event handlers. |
| 04:35.48 | zachwlewis | But... the XML is actually really nice once you make friends with it. |
| 04:35.58 | zachwlewis | It's super handy. :) |
| 04:36.08 | Torhal | I mean, I don't WRITE XML :) |
| 04:36.16 | zachwlewis | But, the best AddOn is one that does what it is supposed to. |
| 04:36.19 | Torhal | I can grok it just fine from their stuff, but in my own code I write all Lua. |
| 04:36.34 | zachwlewis | So, as long as yours work, then that's perfect. :) |
| 04:36.58 | zachwlewis | I wear design and development hats at work. |
| 04:37.29 | zachwlewis | I do UI/UX design and implementation, so I tend to spread out my work more than my coworkers. |
| 04:38.18 | zachwlewis | When I ask to see the XAML for a C# app (or the Designer files for you xcoders), they look at me like I'm retarded. |
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| 06:12.14 | Bruners | what is this xml you speak of |
| 06:12.36 | jnwhiteh | I use xml for templates |
| 06:12.40 | jnwhiteh | especially with parentKey |
| 06:15.05 | Fisker | hey jnwhiteh |
| 06:16.28 | jnwhiteh | hi |
| 06:16.34 | Bruners | Fisker: hi frand |
| 06:27.57 | kd3 | emails out (finally). no changes. go back to sleep |
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| 06:56.39 | End_ | you can't make me go back to sleep |
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| 07:40.23 | alestane | Interesting crack from the Lua mailing list: "Syntax lollipops: a lollipop is a kind of sugar which is especially designed to suck." |
| 07:40.40 | Cairenn | *snark* |
| 07:40.49 | Cairenn | also, wtf are you doing up at this hour? |
| 07:46.39 | alestane | It's the same hour for you. |
| 07:46.54 | Cairenn | Yes, but we all know that I keep weird hours |
| 07:47.42 | alestane | I'm finishing the draft of a chapter so that I can turn it in and my publishers can stop twitching. |
| 07:47.47 | Cairenn | ah |
| 07:48.22 | alestane | Because of the delays in chapters 3-6, they've apparently decided that 7-10 have to be finished in a week or less each. |
| 07:48.30 | Cairenn | eek |
| 07:48.41 | alestane | This isn't happening, but I'm coming as close as I can manage. |
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| 07:54.15 | alestane | Plus, with Kat not going to work until her ankle mends, she's rapidly slipping away from "normal" work hours. |
| 07:54.22 | Cairenn | nod |
| 07:54.38 | Cairenn | how is she doing? |
| 07:55.35 | Cairenn | I've no doubt that's going to be a long slow recovery |
| 07:56.17 | alestane | Spending most of the day plunked on the couch with a laptop nearby, knitting handy (she's working on a cast cozy) and snacks and drinks in easy reach. |
| 07:56.22 | Cairenn | I hope for her that it won't be, but ... |
| 07:56.45 | Cairenn | *nod* |
| 07:56.46 | alestane | She came to the grocery store with me yesterday and decided that it was good to get out, but that she was taking today easy to make up for it. |
| 07:56.56 | Cairenn | nod |
| 07:57.18 | Shirik | Cairenn doesn't actually sleep |
| 07:57.29 | Shirik | she just marks herself as AFK periodically so we don't get mad at her |
| 07:57.31 | alestane | Current guess is 4 weeks in the cast. She can touch it down if she has to but not put weight on it. Then probably another 2 weeks in a boot. |
| 07:57.45 | Cairenn | that's not terrible |
| 07:58.07 | alestane | Surgery went smoothly. They want to check on it text Tuesday. |
| 07:58.12 | Cairenn | good |
| 07:59.53 | Cairenn | Shirik: heh |
| 08:02.20 | bluspacecow | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:02.28 | Cairenn | hi bluspacecow |
| 08:02.35 | bluspacecow | :3 |
| 08:03.01 | alestane | The fibula had come misaligned from the ankle bones by about half a millimeter. They said it wanted to be fixed so that it wouldn't turn into arthritis four or five years from now. |
| 08:03.13 | Cairenn | yeah, I remember you saying |
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| 08:04.49 | alestane | What about you? Are your innards behaving? Did you say something had to come out? |
| 08:05.11 | Cairenn | Okay, this is all kinds of scary: https://www.federalregister.gov/articles/2013/02/20/2013-03835/flavored-milk-petition-to-amend-the-standard-of-identity-for-milk-and-17-additional-dairy-products |
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| 08:06.31 | alestane | I do not have the brain to make sense of that right now, but it bothers me. |
| 08:06.37 | alestane | What is "safe and suitable"? |
| 08:06.43 | Xuerian | Pitchforks? pitchforks |
| 08:06.59 | Xuerian | charges off in a random direction |
| 08:07.17 | Cairenn | The problem for me is that they are wanting to not have to notify that those are in there |
| 08:07.28 | alestane | Also not good. |
| 08:07.57 | Cairenn | http://www.organicconsumers.org/articles/article_27092.cfm (is the original article that got linked to me) |
| 08:08.11 | Cairenn | U.S. Dairy Industry Petitions FDA to Approve Aspartame as Hidden, Unlabeled Additive in Milk, Yogurt, Eggnog and Cream |
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| 08:08.21 | Xuerian | Aww hell naw |
| 08:08.25 | Xuerian | (seriously) |
| 08:08.45 | Xuerian | That's pretty nefarious =\ |
| 08:08.55 | Cairenn | Remind me to never ever ever eat or drink any dairy products in the US, since it could kill me |
| 08:09.04 | Cairenn | that's fucking stupid |
| 08:09.06 | Cairenn | pardon me |
| 08:09.12 | Xuerian | Agree, though. |
| 08:09.53 | alestane | I don't think that can be qualified as "safe" under a sane definition. |
| 08:10.09 | Cairenn | I first linked the other article instead, because it's a bit less .... hysterical .... than the second link I gave |
| 08:10.11 | Cairenn | but yeah |
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| 08:10.32 | alestane | Reactions to artificial sweeteners are not unheard of. |
| 08:10.59 | Cairenn | ummm ... so, lemme see - no bread, no pasta, no pancakes, no ... anything and everything that has any dairy product in it |
| 08:11.35 | Cairenn | so I'll be eating nothing but red meat and salad with nothing more than an oil and vinegar dressing from here on out when I'm down there |
| 08:11.55 | Cairenn | (if it goes through) |
| 08:13.05 | Cairenn | I realize that there are a lot fewer of us that are actually outright allergic to aspartame, but what about all the people that have phenylketonuria? |
| 08:13.33 | Xuerian | Or "Stop trying to sweeten everything we eat so dumb people buy more" |
| 08:13.37 | Xuerian | I'll go for either problem |
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| 08:13.48 | Cairenn | that too |
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| 08:18.07 | Cairenn | If people want to put aspartame in their products, that's fine, but you can't not tell people that it's in there. |
| 08:18.50 | Torhal | Dafuq?!? |
| 08:19.16 | Torhal | Why wasn't that immediately answered with "Uh, fuck no"? |
| 08:19.28 | Cairenn | That's my question |
| 08:19.31 | Torhal | Let's go ahead and throw in peanut dust! |
| 08:19.34 | Torhal | Jesus. |
| 08:21.49 | nevcairiel | same reason anything happens in the US, a lot of money in some officials pocket? :d |
| 08:21.52 | Cairenn | I mean, come on - up here in Canada we're requiring that companies provide *more* information about what is in their product. No more "vinegar, water, tomatoes and (the ever so lovely generic term) spices". They have to say what those spices are. |
| 08:22.36 | Torhal | I think castoreum should be on the fucking labels too. |
| 08:23.36 | Cairenn | Because guess what, there are people that are allergic to certain spices. If it isn't listed and the person dies because they didn't know it was in there ... |
| 08:24.04 | Cairenn | but the FDA is going to hide -more- ingredients? that's just bassackwards |
| 08:24.31 | Cairenn | is constantly confused by shit that goes on in the US |
| 08:24.47 | Shirik | I'm pretty convinced that will never actually go through |
| 08:24.55 | Cairenn | I would certainly hope not |
| 08:24.58 | nevcairiel | cute how you still believe in the system :p |
| 08:25.13 | Shirik | as much as I agree that the system is corrupt |
| 08:25.23 | Torhal | The system that disappeared decades ago in favor of favoritism, you mean? |
| 08:25.25 | Shirik | I'm pretty sure any politician that approves something that ends up killing millions of people is not in his interests |
| 08:25.39 | Shirik | regardless of the money you might get, they also want to be reelected |
| 08:25.39 | Cairenn | Well, the lawsuits that would ensue ... yeah, exactly |
| 08:25.52 | Torhal | If they proved that's what caused it. |
| 08:26.02 | Shirik | uh, that's not particularly hard |
| 08:26.03 | Torhal | Then there's that whole bizarre notion of "acceptable losses". |
| 08:26.03 | Cairenn | but just the idea that anyone would even suggest it makes me boggle |
| 08:26.04 | Shirik | "dude was allergic" |
| 08:27.06 | nevcairiel | there is probably plenty people that are not allergic or have any kind of reaction to aspartame, but just dont buy it because they dont want it, and they want to sell it to them :p |
| 08:27.26 | Cairenn | yup |
| 08:30.09 | Cairenn | just shakes her head. I just hope it doesn't go through, or my diet is going to be severely restricted any time I'm down there. |
| 08:30.41 | tzarc | evenin' folks. |
| 08:30.47 | Cairenn | hi |
| 08:31.26 | tzarc | yeah that's all I got ;) |
| 08:31.36 | Cairenn | heh |
| 08:31.54 | tzarc | just seemed a bit awkward leaving it at 'hi' |
| 08:31.59 | tzarc | crawls back into his box |
| 08:32.03 | zenzio | HI!!!! |
| 08:32.09 | tzarc | there we go! |
| 08:32.18 | zenzio | that goes for you too Cairenn |
| 08:33.10 | Cairenn | huggles zenzio |
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| 08:36.10 | zenzio | ... so this folder has AdminController.php and AdministratorController.php. I'm curious as to why, but given the nature of this site I don't dare look at the code |
| 08:36.58 | Cairenn | Okay, time for me to do one of those periodic afks so Shirik doesn't yell at me. ;) |
| 08:37.00 | Cairenn | Night all |
| 08:37.13 | zenzio | good night |
| 08:40.31 | tzarc | errr, /wave |
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| 08:41.22 | zenzio | let me guess, you typed just /wave and your IRC client complained? |
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| 12:22.21 | gOitRe | eLo |
| 12:22.29 | zenzio | hi |
| 12:22.51 | gOitRe | First appareance on this channel |
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| 14:55.46 | Semlar | which is huge by the way |
| 14:56.07 | VIad | hehe |
| 14:56.12 | VIad | the water area is gone :< |
| 14:56.36 | Semlar | maybe, but what does it normally look like on your minimap |
| 14:56.58 | VIad | it's blue no? |
| 14:57.03 | VIad | there is stuff in that area |
| 14:57.04 | Semlar | i would have to say no |
| 14:57.08 | VIad | why? |
| 14:57.12 | Semlar | since these are the textures the minimap uses |
| 14:57.19 | VIad | screw you then |
| 14:57.24 | VIad | :P |
| 14:57.25 | Semlar | you can go check |
| 14:57.25 | VIad | sec |
| 14:57.27 | VIad | lemme find |
| 14:57.28 | Semlar | i don't play alliance |
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| 15:04.58 | zenzio | "What does 1#J mean? A strange corner case of the printing of special values" http://blogs.msdn.com/b/oldnewthing/archive/2013/02/28/10397976.aspx |
| 15:07.30 | Semlar | vlad: http://i.imgur.com/0ooXPIz.jpg |
| 15:15.40 | Semlar | i can't help but notice while part of the tram does have a map, it doesn't put the player on it |
| 15:16.15 | Semlar | maybe i'm on the wrong side of it |
| 15:16.44 | smcn | the tram is weird, i can't help but think the reason they haven't overhauled it is because none of the environment guys want to touch it |
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| 15:17.38 | Semlar | i hate that you can't get proper instance coordinates when there isn't a map for an area |
| 15:18.38 | Semlar | ah it does put the player on the map i was just not in the right area |
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| 15:21.25 | smcn | any way to tell what bosses you've used a charm on for the week? |
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| 15:34.28 | znf | smcn, in LFR or...? |
| 15:34.36 | smcn | yeah |
| 15:40.27 | znf | smcn, last time I checked you could use multiple coins on the same boss? not 100% sure though |
| 15:40.57 | smcn | there was a bug where you could use another if you requeued but they fixed it |
| 15:43.10 | znf | oh, that was a bug? interesting o.o |
| 15:43.40 | smcn | well, it was before i started playing again and that's what i heard about it |
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| 15:51.10 | foxlit | http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/6200810354#4 |
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| 16:04.43 | smcn | is the bug with passive buffs not showing in the consolidated buff frame fixed in 5.2? tired of people asking for spell haste buff :P |
| 16:12.09 | Semlar | haste plz |
| 16:16.07 | VIad | Semlar: I am back |
| 16:16.16 | VIad | last we talked about the train minimap |
| 16:16.24 | VIad | you say it's white, I say it's blue |
| 16:17.04 | VIad | http://i.imgur.com/58CWnSJ.jpg |
| 16:17.25 | VIad | old picture but probably not changed :P |
| 16:18.06 | Semlar | i say it's white http://i.imgur.com/0ooXPIz.jpg |
| 16:18.12 | VIad | wtf |
| 16:18.15 | VIad | bug |
| 16:18.16 | Semlar | i just took that |
| 16:18.18 | VIad | must be a bug |
| 16:18.35 | VIad | why downgrade to pure white? |
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| 16:18.58 | Semlar | i don't know but the entire minimap texture is different |
| 16:19.19 | VIad | hmm |
| 16:22.12 | smcn | foxlit: interesting, definitely more inclined to believe a blue post than something i heard in a random raid chat even though it's a few months old, guess i'll test it myself |
| 16:22.29 | kd3 | s'true |
| 16:22.48 | kd3 | ran toes several times a day trying to get his weapon off tsulong |
| 16:23.07 | VIad | smcn kd3 tell me |
| 16:23.24 | VIad | I've tried to get the weapon drop for weeks, no drop |
| 16:23.27 | VIad | nor trinket for that matter |
| 16:23.42 | Kaylin | I finally got a 2nd dagger off RF |
| 16:23.43 | VIad | what do you know? |
| 16:23.45 | VIad | :O |
| 16:23.47 | Kaylin | is happy. |
| 16:23.47 | kd3 | I finally got it like 2 weeks back |
| 16:24.03 | VIad | what was the blue post/raid chat thing? |
| 16:24.09 | smcn | i got shinka my first toes run with paladin, same with the staff on my priest, and got the 1h mace twice lol |
| 16:25.29 | VIad | smcn: what is the blue post? |
| 16:25.38 | smcn | http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/6200810354#4 |
| 16:25.58 | VIad | aha |
| 16:25.58 | VIad | ok |
| 16:28.10 | Semlar | http://i.imgur.com/RVb5RIl.jpg it's not exactly solid white, it appears to be sand or something |
| 16:28.33 | Semlar | but it is very very bright |
| 16:28.46 | kd3 | it's supposed to be sand - that part of the tram is "underwater" |
| 16:29.08 | Semlar | his picture here http://i.imgur.com/58CWnSJ.jpg makes it look like there should be a filter over it or something |
| 16:30.15 | Semlar | but it currently looks like it does on my map in-game |
| 16:37.34 | Semlar | http://i.imgur.com/xfEnuQA.jpg what do you think, kd3 |
| 16:37.41 | Semlar | sexytimes? |
| 16:38.10 | kd3 | impressive. it's just as confusing as it actually is in game |
| 16:38.31 | Semlar | hey, it took a lot of work to make it that confusing |
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| 16:40.56 | Semlar | you could cycle through layers but i have that disabled for now because i don't like the way it works |
| 16:41.25 | Semlar | that is going to take a lot of tweaking to make it useful |
| 16:41.41 | kd3 | considering how many maps blizz resorted to... eesh |
| 16:42.44 | Semlar | i made an example video of it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgGktsKl96U |
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| 16:45.03 | smcn | lol, the trash leading to first boss in heart of fear is so bad in lfr i'm starting to find it funny |
| 16:45.29 | kd3 | there are several pulls that still wipe lfr groups fairly constantly |
| 16:45.31 | smcn | half the time when i queue for dread approach it's in the middle of a wipe on trash with people running back to entrance causing an endless aggro chain |
| 16:45.37 | kd3 | which is amusing, this, the week before 5.2 |
| 16:46.01 | foxlit | "lol, guys, what's CC?" |
| 16:46.30 | Semlar | confusing and complicated, apparently |
| 16:47.22 | smcn | i'm stealing that |
| 16:48.15 | Semlar | >_> |
| 16:49.41 | Semlar | alright, i've put off writing this frame recycler for long enough |
| 16:50.22 | Semlar | it is going to be annoyingly complicated to recycle these objects |
| 16:51.37 | foxlit | mmo-c's javascript tooltips are annoyingly bad. |
| 16:52.13 | foxlit | For some window sizes and link positions, they position the tooltip on top of the link, causing the link to lose focus and the tooltip to be hidden. |
| 16:52.42 | nevcairiel | which then causes the link to re-gain focus, causing a funny loop? |
| 16:52.48 | foxlit | yep |
| 16:52.55 | foxlit | something breaks it arbitrarily |
| 16:55.35 | foxlit | probably only really reevaluated on mouse motion, so you get flickering while moving, and whether it ends up hidden or shown depends on which phase of the cycle you stop moving the cursor in. |
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| 17:23.42 | kd3 | http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2013/feb/28/brains-rats-connected-share-information |
| 17:36.44 | Semlar | we must consult the brains |
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| 17:47.33 | TC-work | Semlar: Sure, if we could actually find any on earth. |
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| 18:50.11 | jnwhiteh | Torhal|work: My 1099 was issued to the wrong SSN, any idea who I can contact about that? |
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| 18:52.12 | jnwhiteh | or MentalPower =) |
| 18:53.06 | Torhal|work | jnwhiteh: support@curse.com :) |
| 18:53.09 | jnwhiteh | k |
| 18:53.10 | zenzelezz | what's a 1099? |
| 18:53.21 | Torhal|work | zenzelezz: Contracting tax form. |
| 18:53.50 | MentalPower | ?? |
| 18:53.51 | Torhal|work | Well, self-employed technically. |
| 18:54.04 | Torhal|work | MentalPower: He got his 1099 under the wrong SSN. |
| 18:54.20 | MentalPower | who did? |
| 18:54.22 | jnwhiteh | dunno why i didn't catch this last year |
| 18:54.29 | jnwhiteh | maybe it was right and it just got messed up this year |
| 18:54.31 | jnwhiteh | =) |
| 18:54.31 | Torhal|work | MentalPower: jnwhiteh did |
| 18:54.33 | mikma | lol u blind |
| 18:54.42 | MentalPower | I just got back in the channel |
| 18:54.55 | MentalPower | [12:51:57] MentalPower (~textual@WoWUIDev/Norganna/Administrator/MentalPower) joined the channel. |
| 18:55.00 | zenzelezz | guess he didn't have enough... *sunglasses* mental power |
| 18:55.19 | Torhal|work | groans. |
| 18:55.44 | jnwhiteh | hrm, my W9 is.. a bit.. messy =) |
| 18:56.11 | jnwhiteh | what numbers do you think this has |
| 18:56.11 | jnwhiteh | http://images.gammatester.com/pics/b5dd2020dd8b3dee3f10c0962691472f.png |
| 18:56.13 | jnwhiteh | ? |
| 18:56.41 | kd3 | 052 |
| 18:56.52 | jnwhiteh | thats what I would think |
| 18:56.59 | jnwhiteh | someone thought it was an 8 :P |
| 18:57.05 | jnwhiteh | and i can see that... but.. |
| 18:57.36 | kd3 | actually, it looks like 652 with the top-half ot he 6 cut off |
| 18:57.40 | jnwhiteh | hah |
| 19:01.39 | TC-work | ~lart zenzelezz |
| 19:01.39 | purl | whips out a sword and chops zenzelezz in half |
| 19:03.03 | Semlar | http://i.imgur.com/gfrtomx.jpg oO |
| 19:03.45 | Stanzilla | are you automating glyphing? |
| 19:06.41 | Semlar | this is part of kezan and i'm having a hard time figuring out if it's supposed to be there and look like that |
| 19:08.16 | Semlar | on the map the road looks like it goes through a tunnel there |
| 19:08.20 | kd3 | it does |
| 19:08.29 | kd3 | it's part of the slums |
| 19:09.13 | Semlar | it looks really strange but i also might have the layering wrong |
| 19:10.16 | Maldivia | jnwhiteh: I read OS2 at first - but if it was all numbers, I would say 082 (looks like my 8s) |
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| 19:31.58 | kd3 | I thought that the NYT was being mean til I realized he actually is a comedian... (look at url vs headline) http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/28/world/europe/fear-of-gridlock-rises-in-italy-as-beppe-grillo-rejects-deal.html |
| 19:39.06 | Semlar | http://i.imgur.com/5fTTpOM.jpg should i just ignore tiny objects like this |
| 19:39.13 | Fisker | hey jnwhiteh |
| 19:39.18 | jnwhiteh | hi |
| 19:39.21 | Fisker | and maybe even hey kd3 |
| 19:39.29 | kd3 | hullo |
| 19:39.45 | Fisker | but definitely not hey haste :( |
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| 19:59.12 | Semlar | welp, whatever they did in the last ptr patch i can't open map.dbc any more |
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| 20:01.31 | Elkano | maybe they added another field? |
| 20:02.00 | Semlar | nah it's like i'm not getting the whole file |
| 20:02.14 | Elkano | hmmm, included the patch files? |
| 20:05.35 | bleeter | kd3: the truly funny thing is... name me one politician who isn't a comedian |
| 20:06.07 | zenzelezz | they're not comedians, they're clowns |
| 20:06.19 | Elkano | you shouldn't tell them though ;) |
| 20:07.19 | Semlar | alright, it looks like i do actually need to start reading the mfil |
| 20:07.41 | bleeter | thinks it's too early in the (ugt) morning to get in to the 'failing in art of comedy and clowning' debate |
| 20:07.46 | Semlar | they stopped loading one of the patch files and didn't remove it |
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| 20:09.19 | Semlar | which is nice because it's over a gigabyte |
| 20:11.34 | Elkano | retail will fix that ;) |
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| 20:13.23 | bleeter | one hopes ;) |
| 20:14.06 | bleeter | reposting because https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BEHVqjGCUAEWQYV.jpg:large |
| 20:14.27 | mikma | bleeter: aaaaand? |
| 20:18.40 | bleeter | mikma: some folks live in places where they are not lucky enough to have ever experienced that ;) |
| 20:18.56 | mikma | bleeter: dem noobs |
| 20:24.56 | jnwhiteh | translation: why did you write these pages, I hate you: http://images.gammatester.com/pics/01cd22e1070ad1040b672611cb5dd313.png |
| 20:26.49 | kd3 | ouch |
| 20:27.08 | mikma | jnwhiteh: if you would stop making that much mistakes... |
| 20:27.21 | jnwhiteh | heh |
| 20:30.37 | foxlit | That looks like a word document |
| 20:31.11 | foxlit | hm, maybe not. Inlining code is just weird. |
| 20:31.31 | bleeter | jnwhiteh: reply: 'why u no use red ink?' |
| 20:31.46 | Semlar | was the original image bigger than this |
| 20:31.47 | jnwhiteh | foxlit: its LaTeX |
| 20:31.55 | jnwhiteh | Semlar: i zoomed it out |
| 20:32.00 | jnwhiteh | to show multiple pages |
| 20:32.36 | Semlar | is this just some random person? |
| 20:32.52 | jnwhiteh | no, its my supervisor |
| 20:32.56 | Semlar | ah |
| 20:33.18 | mikma | so that IS your paper! |
| 20:33.23 | jnwhiteh | .. yes |
| 20:33.30 | mikma | oh noes, sorry :O |
| 20:34.36 | mikma | well, go and tell him to suck donkeydick |
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| 20:58.46 | foxlit | where is the auto selfcast setting hidden? |
| 21:05.14 | Semlar | combat |
| 21:06.20 | Semlar | on that note, i don't know why "display target of target" is under combat and not Display |
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| 21:10.53 | smcn | because it's related to combat |
| 21:10.55 | smcn | and display |
| 21:11.09 | Semlar | so put it in both |
| 21:11.27 | smcn | game devs still can't decide where "show subtitles" belongs |
| 21:12.05 | Semlar | i wouldn't really say target of target is necessarily a combat thing anyway |
| 21:12.39 | Semlar | while it is helpful in combat, it's not strictly combat related |
| 21:13.50 | Semlar | if i were designing this, auto self cast would be under controls |
| 21:17.02 | bleeter | any icloud mac users in the house tried this out yet? http://boingboing.net/2013/02/28/macworld-uk-apple-censoring-i.html |
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| 21:34.21 | Jammer | is it possible to do action buttons that are transparent until the action is available? |
| 21:35.04 | kd3 | sure. they'll still be there and you'll still be able to click on them, but you can set their alpha to 0 in combat or not |
| 21:38.11 | kd3 | foo:setAlpha(0) |
| 21:41.58 | smcn | hmm, anyone know if the trinkets you loot off the faction rares in krasarang are usable on the daily island in 5.2? |
| 21:43.29 | kd3 | I'll have an answer for you in a sec... |
| 21:45.13 | VIad | gOitRe: everything going ok? |
| 21:46.36 | kd3 | they work, smcn |
| 21:46.57 | smcn | nice |
| 21:47.03 | smcn | might actually be worth using for the pvp dailies |
| 21:51.14 | zenzelezz | I really wish the MySQL command line program would start catching ctrl+c |
| 21:51.29 | foxlit | smcn: aren't those trinkets quite lame? |
| 21:52.16 | foxlit | The one I have at the moment is +10k resilience on use -- but that's only like ~4% additional damage reduction and nothing when not activated |
| 21:52.45 | smcn | well the "pvp trinket" one is a 1 min cd |
| 21:52.57 | foxlit | but has no stats, I think |
| 21:53.09 | smcn | yeah |
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| 21:54.43 | bleeter | jnwhiteh: Do you know about "HTML"? |
| 21:57.00 | bleeter | cogwheel: Do you know about "Javascript"? |
| 21:58.18 | Primer | no |
| 22:11.23 | bleeter | thought as much |
| 22:11.33 | bleeter | presses the LinkedIn 'endorse' button anyways |
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| 22:49.30 | foxlit | Sha of Fear should be renamed to Sha of Boredom |
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| 22:51.25 | bleeter | Sha of Zzzzzz |
| 22:51.36 | bleeter | Sha of Sooze |
| 22:51.40 | bleeter | Snooze |
| 22:52.02 | foxlit | It could even work with the story. The mantid empress decided to hatch the swarm early because... she was bored. |
| 22:52.32 | foxlit | And so ends my LFR raid week; amount of items received: 0. |
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| 22:54.15 | bleeter | I didn't renew my Pandaristan subs 'coz snooooze |
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| 22:55.42 | foxlit | I rolled a monk. That kept things mildly interesting. |
| 22:55.50 | Ackis | so I found out that my new guild leader is a male model, and is Nathan Drake from uncharted lol |
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| 23:16.55 | zachwlewis | How tough is it to add custom items to the default objective tracker? |
| 23:17.21 | smcn | pettracker does it pretty well |
| 23:20.20 | *** join/#wowuidev Grivvel (~Grivvel@ip68-4-2-236.pv.oc.cox.net) |
| 23:49.10 | VIad | what is it called, when you forcefully make your head red by gathering blood in it? |
| 23:49.17 | VIad | not sure what to call it lol |
| 23:49.56 | Stanzilla | dumb |
| 23:50.34 | Stanzilla | try "pump" maybe :p |
| 23:52.10 | Motig | lol |
| 23:54.53 | zenzelezz | yay for colleagues who put things live without adding them to subversion |
| 23:55.03 | zenzelezz | moved to new server, things looked... less than ideal |
| 23:56.40 | xyphoid | zenzelezz: ... yeaaah |
| 23:56.59 | xyphoid | a guy here just demoed his rewrite of an old app |
| 23:57.35 | xyphoid | <me> xxx: what's yyy's svn path? |
| 23:57.36 | xyphoid | <xxx> Oops I haven't put that in SVN yet will do shortly |
| 23:57.49 | xyphoid | working for weeks with no source control :( |
