| 00:00.56 | Semlar|Laptop | what about |
| 00:01.23 | VIad | how are your coding projects going? what's latest news? |
| 00:04.13 | VIad | Semlar what have you been doing lately? |
| 00:04.20 | Semlar|Laptop | thinking |
| 00:04.25 | VIad | about? |
| 00:05.30 | Semlar|Laptop | how to make my script do what i want |
| 00:05.58 | VIad | what script is that? |
| 00:06.02 | VIad | what does it do? |
| 00:06.36 | Semlar|Laptop | my map |
| 00:06.45 | Neffi | Ugh |
| 00:07.01 | Neffi | Got my Twilight Drake only to find it can't swim like my shitty entry flyer |
| 00:07.06 | Neffi | that makes mining irritating |
| 00:07.07 | VIad | :P |
| 00:08.04 | VIad | Semlar, you got quite many map related projects by now :P |
| 00:08.34 | Semlar|Laptop | mm |
| 00:10.58 | VIad | Semlar, when you release "Semlar's Map Revamp Bundle" it will be the most wet moment in WoW history :P |
| 00:11.14 | VIad | a map framework with hundreds of features and endless plugin support |
| 00:11.49 | VIad | I can imagine hitting ctrl+space and a quick search popping out or something, where I enter item name, npc name, zone name, quest name, e.g. and the map opens up with "top results" list :D |
| 00:12.09 | VIad | allowing me to easily navigate to anywhere I don't know where is, as long I know the name |
| 00:12.17 | Semlar|Laptop | one step at a time |
| 00:12.46 | VIad | I know |
| 00:12.58 | VIad | in the future at some point |
| 00:15.03 | VIad | Semlar, dat ass http://i.imgur.com/GwD9unm.jpg |
| 00:15.09 | VIad | guess the game |
| 00:15.57 | Semlar|Laptop | don't know |
| 00:16.04 | VIad | final fantasy 9 |
| 00:19.25 | VIad | kupo |
| 00:19.29 | VIad | what does that mean in japanese? |
| 00:22.14 | Semlar|Laptop | i don't know |
| 00:22.36 | Semlar|Laptop | what's the context |
| 00:22.42 | VIad | like an ending |
| 00:22.48 | VIad | ending the sentences with ", kupo" |
| 00:23.39 | Semlar|Laptop | it could just be a sound effect |
| 00:23.44 | VIad | hehe |
| 00:23.51 | VIad | japanese are weird, maybe it's a word :P |
| 00:24.48 | Semlar|Laptop | i don't think it's a word |
| 00:24.57 | alestane | It's a moogle thing. |
| 00:25.47 | Mr_Rabies | lol |
| 00:25.49 | Mr_Rabies | this thread |
| 00:25.52 | Mr_Rabies | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/7924143593 |
| 00:25.54 | Mr_Rabies | this thread |
| 00:25.54 | alestane | Moogles say "kupo." IIRC, in their first appearance, their utterances consist entirely of strings of "kupo." |
| 00:26.07 | VIad | is it called an idiosyncrasy? |
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| 00:26.53 | Semlar|Laptop | if it's appended to the end of something someone says all the time it's just something they do |
| 00:27.18 | VIad | not sure why but I dislike it lol >.< |
| 00:27.47 | bluspacecow | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:28.01 | Mr_Rabies | there's kind of an idiosyncracy type thing in japanese where people have a word they like to use after sentences |
| 00:28.03 | VIad | I ruv u 2 bluspacecow |
| 00:28.10 | bluspacecow | *cracks fingers* |
| 00:28.24 | Mr_Rabies | some anime have cutesy characters say ", desu" after their lines, etc |
| 00:28.26 | bluspacecow | i have an inkling to write a bash script to make a task I'm dong quicker. |
| 00:28.35 | Mr_Rabies | dong quicker, dong harder |
| 00:28.44 | Mr_Rabies | (i'm sorry) |
| 00:28.49 | bluspacecow | then imma attach it to a service so I can use it with right click (OS X) |
| 00:28.54 | VIad | harder dong |
| 00:28.56 | bluspacecow | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:29.50 | Amarande | the trouble with this is that if the task is already fairly quick, it takes longer to figure out how to write the damned bash script |
| 00:31.48 | VIad | desu |
| 00:32.01 | Amarande | man, FF9. I need to buy that off of PSN sometime. I never got around to finishing it when I had it and a PS1 |
| 00:32.14 | VIad | :P |
| 00:32.24 | Amarande | Despite the cutesy appearance, it's actually one of the most brutally hard installments in the series, go figure heh |
| 00:32.33 | Mr_Rabies | it's probably cheaper to buy it instead of rent it at this point, Amarande |
| 00:32.53 | VIad | HD remake of FF1-10 anyone? |
| 00:32.54 | VIad | :P |
| 00:32.56 | Mr_Rabies | maybe not...it's like $20 on ebay |
| 00:33.29 | Amarande | It's like ... either $10 or $20 to download on a PS3, IIRC |
| 00:33.47 | VIad | I saw half life (1) in a bin for like 1$ :P |
| 00:33.51 | VIad | dusty as hell |
| 00:33.55 | Amarande | VIad: happily and sadly, there will apparently be one eventually for FF10 |
| 00:34.03 | Amarande | happily, because it means the US finally sees the Dark Aeons, so I'm told |
| 00:34.08 | VIad | :o |
| 00:34.11 | Amarande | sadly, because apparently it's been canceled for PS3 and will only be for the Vita :( |
| 00:34.17 | VIad | :/ |
| 00:34.19 | VIad | but vita suks |
| 00:34.21 | VIad | :( |
| 00:34.29 | Mr_Rabies | the classic jrpg is pretty much dead, honestly |
| 00:34.39 | Mr_Rabies | there were too many of the same game remade a hundred times |
| 00:34.41 | VIad | how is square doing financially? |
| 00:34.50 | VIad | online was a flop no, lots of money spent? |
| 00:34.56 | VIad | what about latest ff game on ps3? |
| 00:34.59 | Mr_Rabies | probably a little better now that the yen has started to decline in value |
| 00:35.19 | VIad | well they must make up new stuff, fun stuff |
| 00:35.20 | Arrowmaster | fuck portables |
| 00:35.32 | Arrowmaster | i dont see the point of all these portable only games |
| 00:35.34 | Mr_Rabies | portables are all that have really been selling well in japan for the last decade or so |
| 00:35.51 | VIad | I never found gaming on the go practical |
| 00:35.55 | Mr_Rabies | because they have decent public transportation and can actually play portable games |
| 00:36.04 | Mr_Rabies | just hop on the train and fire up some monster hunter |
| 00:36.12 | Thunder_Child | and get felt up while doing it |
| 00:36.24 | Semlar | desu actually means something so it's a little different |
| 00:36.24 | Mr_Rabies | that's what the women's train is for |
| 00:36.33 | VIad | Mr_Rabies: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0A9-oUoMug |
| 00:36.42 | VIad | :P |
| 00:36.45 | VIad | have fun playing your portable |
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| 00:37.22 | Thunder_Child | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:37.29 | Mr_Rabies | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:37.32 | VIad | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:37.54 | Thunder_Child | thank you game for not taking focus..... |
| 00:38.13 | VIad | we should speak like this for a while, make people who tab in think their client is bugged |
| 00:38.20 | Arrowmaster | well i found the wrong key combo there |
| 00:38.37 | Arrowmaster | was looking for the color combo and found the 'clear all text' combo |
| 00:39.41 | VIad | Reznov |
| 00:39.43 | VIad | guess the game |
| 00:44.40 | Mr_Rabies | man there are like, no pug raids this tier |
| 00:44.56 | Mr_Rabies | on my realm |
| 00:46.07 | VIad | hmm |
| 00:49.54 | VIad | banzai! |
| 00:50.18 | Amarande | Mr_Rabies, I doubt there's many on any realm |
| 00:50.25 | Amarande | normal and heroic are a good bit harder than they used to be |
| 00:50.42 | Amarande | 25's take ages to gather a PUG for in general in any expansion, and 10's are just plain vicious |
| 00:51.02 | Mr_Rabies | they're really not, but i think a lot of people are getting a bit burned out on how much work it takes to maintain your character nowadays |
| 00:51.22 | Amarande | Heh. Garalon 10 apparently is one of the tightest DPS races this side of Brutallus, for instance. |
| 00:51.24 | Mr_Rabies | so no alts, etc |
| 00:51.48 | Amarande | well, I'm noting the relatively few high-progress raid groups in general this time |
| 00:52.03 | Amarande | e.g., if you ever feel like your realm's heroic progression is lacklustre |
| 00:52.11 | Amarande | apparently even Illidan only has six groups that have completed heroic Terrace |
| 00:52.17 | VIad | isn't the population low now with 5.2 not yet deployed? |
| 00:52.26 | VIad | I figure people do stuff now that the holidays were upon us |
| 00:52.29 | VIad | and no new content |
| 00:52.38 | VIad | except those that wanna progress heroics I figure |
| 00:52.49 | Amarande | heh, actually Ysera's population has increased massively the last couple months |
| 00:52.56 | Amarande | we used to be a solid Medium, now we're solid High |
| 00:53.17 | Jammer | Amarande: "only"... you have to remember there haven't been any nerfs to the content |
| 00:53.20 | Mr_Rabies | yeah that too, not a great time to release a tier with 16 bosses |
| 00:54.16 | Jammer | I'm sure lot more guilds will get Terrace cleared once the 10% nerf comes into play |
| 00:54.21 | Mr_Rabies | if they even bother |
| 00:54.39 | Mr_Rabies | i think a lot of groups are gonna go straight to 5.2 content after they get to a high enough ilvl |
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| 00:56.25 | Jammer | dunno why they even choose to nerf it when it'll be easier with higher ilvl anyway |
| 00:56.39 | Mr_Rabies | i think terrace is gonna go down in history as one of the lowest average completion raids since naxx40 |
| 00:57.02 | Jammer | in normal? O_o |
| 00:57.07 | Mr_Rabies | they want to you to clear a good chunk of the 5.0 content before starting the 5.2 stuff, Jammer |
| 00:57.39 | Jammer | yeah I suppose it makes sense if you're stuck into the earlier bosses or somethin g |
| 00:57.41 | Mr_Rabies | yeah, jammer |
| 00:58.32 | Mr_Rabies | we only have 13 guilds with any heroic experience whatsoever on our realm |
| 00:58.52 | Jammer | not sure if that's so bad thing considering we had so many bosses this tier |
| 00:59.23 | Mr_Rabies | and only 16 that have cleared terrace |
| 00:59.27 | Mr_Rabies | including the 13 in heroics |
| 00:59.49 | Mr_Rabies | no, 15 that have cleared terrace |
| 01:00.51 | Jammer | 13419 guilds killed Shek'zeer and 12669 Sha of Fear |
| 01:01.07 | Jammer | seems like most guilds that cleared hof got terrace aswell |
| 01:01.24 | VIad | I miss the attunement lines |
| 01:01.35 | Mr_Rabies | i don't |
| 01:01.36 | VIad | was fun when you followed the quest chains and cleared content |
| 01:01.49 | Mr_Rabies | the tbc attunement system was terrible design |
| 01:01.50 | VIad | like when you finish a raid, you did some story, and continued to the next raid |
| 01:02.01 | Mr_Rabies | the quests were fun, but the design of the attunement itself was terrible |
| 01:02.08 | VIad | it helped make the transitions more natural tough |
| 01:02.11 | VIad | from one content to the other |
| 01:02.19 | Mr_Rabies | for people that were at the cutting edge |
| 01:02.22 | VIad | now I guess without these it's just "go here, then go there" |
| 01:02.29 | Mr_Rabies | everyone else was left behind because they couldn't get attuned |
| 01:02.30 | VIad | yeah |
| 01:02.42 | VIad | it's up to your guild tough to help you |
| 01:02.45 | VIad | :P |
| 01:02.49 | Mr_Rabies | that's awful design |
| 01:03.01 | Mr_Rabies | objectively bad game design |
| 01:03.04 | VIad | those bastards wanting me to help a guildie do a questchain |
| 01:03.05 | VIad | crafty |
| 01:03.23 | bluspacecow | theurl=getffnetURL "$1" |
| 01:03.29 | bluspacecow | y i so stoppid! |
| 01:03.30 | VIad | bluspacecow: ? :D |
| 01:03.47 | bluspacecow | it's theurl=$(getffnetURL "$1") if you want to put the output of a command into a var in bash |
| 01:04.30 | VIad | https://www.google.com awesome |
| 01:04.47 | VIad | I like how the google logos are 100% javascript :P |
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| 01:07.55 | VIad | Semlar: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zDUIRFGuKw&t=1m4s |
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| 01:50.31 | Amarande | yay, frost spec = <3 |
| 01:51.29 | Amarande | waits for my fellow mages to condemn me as a heretic :) |
| 01:51.55 | Sintacks | is there a /click for rightclick.. |
| 01:57.40 | Amarande | hm. why do so many mages spec arcane anyway |
| 01:57.57 | Amarande | it's squishy, and even in the best of times it's but a sliver better than frost, so I hear heh |
| 02:01.45 | Jammer | cause it's better |
| 02:02.19 | Jammer | hardcore guilds need to use the best and rest just follow their example pretty much |
| 02:11.30 | Kalroth | even 5% more dps from a single class can make a kill so much easier |
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| 02:11.50 | Kalroth | first kill* |
| 02:12.40 | alestane | Sintacks: /click SomeButtonOrOther RightButton, iirc. |
| 02:14.21 | Amarande | oh eff you soul burn, I forgot about you. :( |
| 02:16.22 | Amarande | 16 second silence = F U FIRELORD |
| 02:18.29 | Amarande | but yeah, what I mean is I'm beginning to doubt the idea that arcane is supposedly better :S |
| 02:18.54 | Amarande | I'll have to see how my DPS is in LFR though ... the fights in places like solo MC are becoming extremely short now, and it's badly skewing the numbers, since it's hard to get a good steady-DPS reading on short fights |
| 02:19.12 | Amarande | but I could swear that things usually died slower when I was arcane |
| 02:21.01 | Amarande | I can also actually solo trash packs in Sunwell that feature the hunters now :) |
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| 02:55.03 | Neffi | random BGs as alliance is awful |
| 02:55.08 | Neffi | i swear they're like children |
| 02:56.25 | Semlar | maybe they are children |
| 03:02.10 | Neffi | Wow. Havent had a win in 2 days. |
| 03:02.14 | Neffi | Maybe it's time to faction change |
| 03:02.40 | karl_w_w | yes that's always the answer |
| 03:03.43 | Neffi | My horde is sitting at a respectable win ratio. |
| 03:03.51 | Neffi | My alliance is lucky to get a win at all for the day |
| 03:11.36 | Amarande | Neffi: which battlegroup? |
| 03:11.55 | Neffi | Amarande: Random BGs are not battlegroup-specific |
| 03:11.59 | Amarande | This can vary wildly, consider say Alterac Valley in 2.3, which is probably when I did the most PvP |
| 03:12.24 | Amarande | Most of the time Alliance would win at least half of them. On Stormstrike and one other BG, Horde would win almost always, to the point that Alliance would stop playing. |
| 03:12.48 | Amarande | Horde on the rest of the battlegroups actually ended up hating Horde on those BGs for it, because ultimately 2.4 saw retoolings to AV to make it ... easier on the Alliance |
| 03:13.28 | Neffi | http://media.mmo-champion.com/images/news/2011/february/bgwinsalltime.png |
| 03:13.47 | Neffi | AV has always belonged to alliance. At least for a long time, it has. |
| 03:13.59 | Semlar | this graph only goes from 40 to 58% |
| 03:14.12 | Semlar | so you should still be winning at least 40% of the games |
| 03:14.25 | Semlar | statistically |
| 03:14.42 | Neffi | It shows a horde bias, which I feel has gotten stronger in MoP |
| 03:15.09 | Neffi | World of Wargraphs indicate a tip from alliance to horde in 2200+ players |
| 03:15.26 | Neffi | It used to be alliance biased, and it's been moving steadily the other way. More skilled players are switching to horde. |
| 03:16.11 | Neffi | My own win/loss ratios mirror this. My horde has got over twice the wins of my alliance. |
| 03:16.41 | Semlar | are you actually tracking your wins |
| 03:17.38 | Neffi | mhm |
| 03:17.50 | Neffi | tallying them at least. nothing too fancy |
| 03:18.34 | Semlar | there's an addon that does it |
| 03:18.52 | Neffi | there are many |
| 03:18.56 | Semlar | i don't remember what it was called but it changed all the buttons for queing |
| 03:19.41 | Neffi | They're changing the pvp frame in 5.2, so that'll break |
| 03:19.49 | Neffi | They're making it like the dungeon queue frame |
| 03:22.58 | Neffi | http://imgur.com/gallery/KlP2s |
| 03:23.01 | Neffi | poor Leo |
| 03:23.52 | Amarande | heh, as long as my monk gets 350 honor before she reaches 70 I'll be happy |
| 03:24.53 | Amarande | (planning to use the 70 pvp polearm as my leveling weapon in NR) |
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| 04:14.32 | karl_w_w | <Neffi> Amarande: Random BGs are not battlegroup-specific <- generally they are |
| 04:14.53 | karl_w_w | you are given a very high preference to get in with people from your own battlegroup |
| 04:14.53 | Neffi | They lifted that restriction a while ago |
| 04:15.00 | Neffi | Ah that makes sense |
| 04:15.07 | Neffi | latency and all. keep it in the same data center |
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| 04:44.38 | karl_w_w | jesus they gave me 6 more dota 2 invites |
| 04:44.41 | karl_w_w | so now i have 14 |
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| 07:27.19 | zenzio | I'm so amused about this horse/beef thing going on in Europe right now |
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| 07:34.08 | bluworkcow | it's all meat lol |
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| 07:45.01 | Maldivia | zenzio: the problem really isn't the horse meat, it's that they're selling it as beef |
| 07:45.11 | zenzio | true |
| 07:45.16 | Cairenn | ^^ |
| 07:45.26 | zenzio | but I don't know enough about meat to know whether that poses any actual risk |
| 07:46.00 | Maldivia | it doesn't |
| 07:46.18 | Maldivia | horse meat is a bit darker than beef, and slightly sweater taste, but just fine to eat |
| 07:47.48 | Maldivia | although, it's been quite a few years since I last had horse meat (knowingly anyway) |
| 07:50.17 | Maldivia | and then ofcourse, there're all the shrinks who are geting a ton of new clients in girls traumatized by eating horse meat :P |
| 07:58.51 | Jammer | well if they don't even know what meat it is then can't really know what the horses have been given |
| 07:59.22 | Jammer | I imagine some of the stuff horses can be given aren't suitable for human consumption |
| 08:00.11 | zenzio | I'm guessing they're not slaughtering drugged up race horses, but who knows |
| 08:00.27 | bluworkcow | sell it as venison. |
| 08:00.30 | bluworkcow | :3 |
| 08:00.35 | zenzio | I know around here people often give their dead horses to the zoo |
| 08:01.05 | bluworkcow | ha ha maldivia traumatised as they used to be male ? |
| 08:01.10 | Jammer | zenzio: well you'd assume so but if they sell it as beef then who the fuck knows :D |
| 08:01.13 | bluworkcow | then they ate horse meat now they're girls XD |
| 08:01.43 | zenzio | correct me if I'm wrong blu, but I didn't know only men ate meat |
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| 08:09.53 | Adys | Definition of "Shitty SEO": When a proxy server of your page shows up higher on google than your actual page |
| 08:10.07 | zenzio | O_o |
| 08:11.00 | zenzio | which site was this? |
| 08:11.05 | Adys | Definition of "You really need a better fucking robots.txt": When you have a proxy server and don't disallow /http* |
| 08:13.20 | pnorman | also, given all the stuff in europe about mad cow, it doesn't inspire much confidence in their tracking systems |
| 08:14.26 | Torhal | madbluworkcow! |
| 08:15.45 | Adys | http://www.bakra-bakri.appspot.com/ |
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| 08:27.18 | Maldivia | bluworkcow: I was thinking about the poor Toni, who just realised the lasagne she just ate contained her pony |
| 08:30.28 | bluworkcow | :| |
| 08:30.59 | bluworkcow | why is she losing her pony anyway |
| 08:31.05 | bluworkcow | silly girl losing her pony. |
| 08:36.31 | Mr_Rabies | oops |
| 08:36.39 | Mr_Rabies | just sold my GM a bunch of intellect potions on my bank alt |
| 08:36.41 | Mr_Rabies | O_o |
| 08:36.56 | F16Gaming | i, too, would like a personal game master |
| 08:36.58 | F16Gaming | :( |
| 08:37.02 | Mr_Rabies | i should have probably donated those, i was thinking those were the cata ones but didn't really pay attention when listing |
| 08:38.03 | zenzio | well this is new... my phone spontaneously rebooted, and now it no longer thinks there's a SIM card in it |
| 08:38.22 | F16Gaming | have you tried turning it off and on again? |
| 08:39.02 | zenzio | yes. Now trying to re-insert it |
| 08:39.20 | zenzio | this phone has had other problems before, I'm not surprised anymore |
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| 08:39.37 | F16Gaming | what kinda phone |
| 08:39.44 | zenzio | Sony Xperia V |
| 08:42.59 | Adys | interesting |
| 08:43.01 | Adys | youtube is down |
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| 08:45.05 | zenzio | so it is o_O |
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| 09:49.04 | bleeter | unscientific straw poll: if I mentioned a product 'Elephant Tasks' who would think it's from Evernote? (NO GOOGLING!) |
| 09:54.49 | zenzio | now that you mention it I wonder if it's to do with the logo... but that could just be my mind misremembering. I certainly wouldn't have thought of Evernote if you didn't mention it |
| 09:56.38 | bleeter | right so if you're evernote, and a startup called 'elephant tasks' were to seek funding... might you get a bit... lawyer itchy? |
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| 09:58.37 | karl_w_w | elephant tasks sounds nonsensical and I have never heard of evernote before |
| 09:59.40 | zenzio | bleeter: I wouldn't be surprised if they did, given how zealous people are today... but I actually never really thought of Evernote for task management |
| 10:00.28 | znf | bleeter, no |
| 10:00.55 | bleeter | zenzio: wouldn't be surprised if they had something in development |
| 10:00.58 | znf | I only used Evernote a few times though |
| 10:01.05 | bleeter | karl_w_w, znf: thx for responses :) |
| 10:01.08 | zenzio | true |
| 10:02.48 | bleeter | all it'd take is one EN developer to have something they've been tinkering on in their spare time |
| 10:05.03 | bleeter | anyways, just tried to give some advise to a local startup who are going for crowdfunding... best of luck to them... but hope they don't come a cropper after ignoring advice |
| 10:05.14 | bleeter | s/advise/advice/ |
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| 11:46.21 | Adys | as an EU citizen, do I need a passport to visit pakistan, or is an eu id enough? |
| 11:46.27 | Adys | im guessing i do, but i cant find any confirmation |
| 11:47.02 | zenzio | I'm not positive, but I think you need a passport for everywhere outside the EU |
| 11:47.04 | znf | pretty sure you need a passport |
| 11:47.31 | znf | I'd say that you should even check for a visa |
| 11:48.19 | Adys | http://www.doyouneedvisa.com/passport/France |
| 11:48.25 | Adys | says visa upon arrival |
| 11:48.44 | zenzio | visa and passport are quite different things though |
| 11:48.57 | Adys | ya |
| 11:49.06 | karl_w_w | you need a passport to go to another country |
| 11:49.25 | karl_w_w | within the EU is the only exception |
| 11:49.39 | Adys | ya |
| 11:49.40 | karl_w_w | so unless pakistan has moved since I last looked at a map... |
| 11:50.17 | znf | karl_w_w, svn up your map, just to be sure |
| 11:50.19 | Adys | someone mentioned i might get special circumstances since pakistan is part of the commonwealth |
| 11:50.22 | Adys | whatever, just checking |
| 11:50.55 | Adys | znf: if the world runs on svn, no wonder getting paperwork up to date is so slow |
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| 13:21.43 | karl_w_w | wow 12 hour maintenance |
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| 13:22.16 | karl_w_w | was even mists launch maintenance that long? |
| 13:22.31 | karl_w_w | and by mists i mean 5.0 |
| 13:23.00 | zenzio | hm, last autumn sometime? Maybe six months? |
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| 13:33.19 | karl_w_w | "Have you guys ever though on getting rid of all 3rd party add-ons in WoW? I think it would add & fix a lot of problems" |
| 13:33.22 | karl_w_w | die fucker |
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| 13:34.08 | zenzio | what good would it be if it added problems |
| 13:34.47 | alestane | It's worth noting that providing this level of interface customization seems more or less exclusive to WoW. |
| 13:35.05 | Lopeppeppy | WoW players are spoiled. |
| 13:35.09 | alestane | But I ask think that's prt of the reason the game has remained as relevant as it has for as long as it has. |
| 13:35.44 | Lopeppeppy | Your burger, your way. |
| 13:36.56 | karl_w_w | i want my burger with chips, and with no sauces or salad inside, and with fish instead of a patty, and with batter instead of a bun |
| 13:37.02 | karl_w_w | can I have that? |
| 13:37.12 | alestane | I think that's called "nUI." |
| 13:39.19 | alestane | But yes. Customization removes or at least mitigates some of the motive to quit or seek a new platform, particularly in high-level play, by allowing people to reduce individual-specific challenges and frustrations in interacting with the game. |
| 13:42.07 | Lopeppeppy | Double double cheese cheese burger burger please. |
| 13:42.41 | karl_w_w | aka a big mac |
| 13:43.06 | karl_w_w | in my experience nobody buys big macs any more |
| 13:43.07 | karl_w_w | ever |
| 13:45.07 | alestane | One those occasions that Kat buys McDonald's food, that's generally what she gets. |
| 13:45.24 | alestane | Although since she's maintaining a fairly low-carb diet, that doesn't happen much anymore. |
| 13:47.13 | karl_w_w | personally if I'm going to eat fast food I want it to be a bit less 'meh' than a big mac |
| 13:47.32 | karl_w_w | but admittedly that's why mcdonald's is basically never my first choice :P |
| 14:13.11 | VIad | hmm, got a html weirdness |
| 14:14.04 | VIad | if I have a div with fixed size, and a div inside that I wish to position on the bottom --- I have used position: absolute with bottom: 0 before to achieve this but now it then places it on the bottom of the window, as if I use fixed position :S |
| 14:14.48 | mitch0 | layout management sucks with css |
| 14:16.11 | VIad | fixed by applying relative position to the parent |
| 14:16.14 | VIad | :p |
| 14:25.54 | p3lim_ | http://img.gfx.no/1128/1128528/Threeway_mobo-6737-processed.png :o |
| 14:27.05 | haste | looks like a noise canon |
| 14:28.04 | p3lim_ | considering the new cooling system they have in place, which was used in the 690, it shouldn't be too bad |
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| 14:52.12 | VIad | hmm, maybe someone here knows, I am trying to make a grid on a page, and I'd wish for the blocks to dynamically scale in size to fill the empty space - let me show you - http://vlacula.no-ip.com/demo.wmv |
| 14:52.39 | VIad | I'd like to make the blocks in the grid instead dynamically allocate available space :/ |
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| 14:57.19 | VIad | :( |
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| 15:05.22 | VIad | css3 w y no supported by most browsers yet? |
| 15:10.19 | Lopeppeppy | Why no trousers yet? |
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| 15:21.22 | alestane | Is it even finalized yet? |
| 15:44.01 | pompy | kd3: patch! |
| 15:44.26 | Kaylin | don't scare me like that! |
| 15:49.57 | Shirik | on a totally random note, http://www.navy.mil/view_single.asp?id=143855 |
| 15:50.23 | p3lim_ | http://www.ubuntu.com/ 10 minutes until sudden doom |
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| 15:55.57 | karl_w_w | house of cards looks like a promising show |
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| 15:56.40 | mitch0 | p3lim_: ? |
| 15:57.04 | mitch0 | ah |
| 15:57.04 | p3lim_ | Yeah I have no idea |
| 15:57.05 | mitch0 | meh |
| 15:57.24 | breser | Humbedooh: We've already met. |
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| 15:57.49 | Humbedooh | breser: I wasn't saying I hadn't met you, just saying I might meet you (again) :) |
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| 15:59.34 | breser | Humbedooh: Ahh ok, yes probably. I'll be there. |
| 16:03.43 | TC-work | http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/461687407/kickstarter-open-source-death-star kek |
| 16:04.22 | TC-work | countered with http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/simonkwan/crowdfunding-rebel-alliance-x-wing-squadron |
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| 16:07.29 | Kaylin | TC-WORK wait is this like, they've actually raised money for this? like what the actual f~? |
| 16:07.41 | Unkle | station |
| 16:07.55 | TC-work | if you read all the way down to the bottom they mention it's a joke |
| 16:09.45 | Lopeppeppy | Heya, Unkle. |
| 16:09.58 | Kaylin | it does but then I look and there's money donated so i am confused |
| 16:12.43 | Corrodias | the money doesn't get collected unless it meets its goal |
| 16:13.18 | Kaylin | ah |
| 16:14.11 | Corrodias | if they're unable to fulfill the promised rewards, the contract permits them to refund the money |
| 16:14.24 | Corrodias | *the contract can be satisfied by refunding the money |
| 16:16.45 | VIad | ubuntu entering the tablet market |
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| 16:18.45 | alestane | I'm rue it was only a matter of time. |
| 16:18.48 | alestane | sure* |
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| 16:35.34 | RythalWork | hmm... must find transportation to anaheim for november |
| 16:37.25 | TC-work | Looks like it's drunk coders time again |
| 16:38.48 | Cairenn|afk | TC-work: We never get drunk at BC. Nope, can't say it with a straight face. |
| 16:39.10 | TC-work | Cairenn|afk: I'm surprised you can even say it at all...... |
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| 16:39.32 | Cairenn|afk | :p |
| 16:40.01 | Fisker | old TC-work |
| 16:40.02 | Cairenn|afk | I've only ever gotten -completely- smashed at BC once :p |
| 16:40.38 | TC-work | It's not helped by the fact that events like curses party are open bar |
| 16:40.46 | Cairenn|afk | Heh, yeah |
| 16:40.51 | RythalWork | I would never think of drinking at BC.... *shines his halo* |
| 16:41.01 | Cairenn|afk | Rythal: lol, riiiiight |
| 16:41.03 | Lopeppeppy | EVERS |
| 16:41.18 | Cairenn|afk | Oh look, it's a Lopeppeppy *smoogle* |
| 16:41.25 | Lopeppeppy | Oh hi there. |
| 16:43.33 | TC-work | Also helpful that my camera does really well in low light..... |
| 16:44.58 | Cairenn|afk | smoogles everyone, then poofs out the door for her appt. |
| 16:45.29 | TC-work | I can only read that as a fart powered Cairenn |
| 16:45.39 | Shirik | ... |
| 16:45.54 | Cairenn|afk | :p |
| 16:46.38 | TC-work | at least it's a green power source Shirik |
| 16:46.53 | RythalWork | low light camera's? I thought those were banned from anywhere booze is available. |
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| 16:56.10 | Unkle | Mmmm... booze. |
| 16:59.29 | TC-work | Didn't you have enough of that yesterday Unkle? |
| 17:00.43 | Unkle | No, not really. Could have used more. |
| 17:15.50 | RythalWork | bah... damn hotels are to fast, room rates for the week already up $50 at anabella |
| 17:26.01 | Unkle | Room rates for what? |
| 17:26.10 | Unkle | (as in event) |
| 17:26.34 | RythalWork | blizzcon |
| 17:28.16 | Unkle | Oh snap. Dates announced? I'm so out of the loop. |
| 17:29.14 | Unkle | Well woot. |
| 17:30.35 | TC-work | Use google hotels, it's rather nifty |
| 17:31.38 | foxlit | it seems weird to reserve hotels for an event you might not be able to get tickets for. |
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| 17:32.01 | Unkle | Yeah. |
| 17:32.17 | Arrow|tablet | Yay free WiFi with lunch |
| 17:32.53 | RythalWork | foxlit: i'd rather reserve, then cancel if I don't get the ticket..... then get the ticket and find everywhere is reserved |
| 17:34.01 | foxlit | probably Nash-sane, but globally suboptimal :/ |
| 17:35.58 | Unkle | Yes, this year I'd like to stay at a hotel that doesn't require me to walk a mile to put my stuff away. |
| 17:36.47 | RythalWork | plus, judging by previous blizzcons ... people sell tickets @ cost in the parking lot >< from friends / guildmates who didn't show etc.. so even if I don't get a ticket I can go down for a nice vacation and maybe buy one |
| 17:37.19 | Arrow|tablet | So I get into work this morning and discover my AD account now properly gives me admin rights but I don't have rights to read from one of the network shares the script I'm running needs to read from |
| 17:37.56 | Arrow|tablet | Blizzcon announced for this year or are you just talking in general? |
| 17:38.09 | RythalWork | Arrow: it's been announced for this year |
| 17:38.32 | Arrow|tablet | Guess I missed it |
| 17:38.39 | RythalWork | Nov 8th & 9th |
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| 17:40.05 | nevcairiel | too bad, i already have vacation plans for that time |
| 17:40.13 | nevcairiel | and i finally wanted to go to one |
| 17:40.25 | Arrow|tablet | :( |
| 17:40.42 | Arrow|tablet | Is it $175 again? |
| 17:41.10 | Unkle | Haven't been announced. |
| 17:41.24 | TC-work | "Further details on the show, including ticket pricing and availability, will be posted here on BlizzCon.com at a later date. " |
| 17:41.47 | TC-work | The announcement was just earlier today |
| 17:42.12 | Arrow|tablet | Figured it was |
| 17:43.03 | Arrow|tablet | Isn't November the latest in the year they've had it? |
| 17:43.10 | RythalWork | I'm expecting... $250 tickets |
| 17:43.17 | nevcairiel | Arrow|tablet: i think so |
| 17:43.47 | nevcairiel | the first was october 28-29 |
| 17:43.51 | nevcairiel | everything else was earlier |
| 17:44.24 | Arrow|tablet | Yeah I saw something recently about a con selling out in 93 minutes and people being upset, had to laugh |
| 17:45.14 | nevcairiel | that depends, if thats 93 minutes of server being down, i can understand being upset |
| 17:45.17 | Arrow|tablet | They could charge $350 and blizzcon would still sellout in 2 seconds |
| 17:45.24 | nevcairiel | if thats 93 minutes of time to actually order, its fine |
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| 17:46.04 | foxlit | should clearly auction the tickets off. |
| 17:46.07 | foxlit | For maximum whining! |
| 17:46.46 | RythalWork | $350 would sell out... but at that price, I wouldn't be so gung-ho to go anymore.... book the days off work and just ppv it >< |
| 17:46.58 | Arrow|tablet | Even though I have a job now I still probably would participate in a ticket auction |
| 17:47.16 | nevcairiel | having a job gives you the necessary funds to do so |
| 17:48.03 | Arrow|tablet | RythalWork: an extra $175 is nothing compared to the plane tickets and hotel costs |
| 17:48.16 | TC-work | Depends where you come from |
| 17:48.23 | TC-work | for me it's only a ~2 hour drive |
| 17:49.04 | nevcairiel | for me its a 16h flight! |
| 17:49.16 | Arrow|tablet | For me I should expect to pay up to $1000 for the entire trip |
| 17:49.31 | nevcairiel | well ok 14h if you pay more =p |
| 17:50.03 | Arrow|tablet | Xinhuan paid over that much just for plane tickets and went 2 years in a row |
| 17:50.03 | nevcairiel | Arrow|tablet: that would only cover the flight for me :d |
| 17:50.24 | nevcairiel | flight is 700-1000€, depending on length you want |
| 17:50.47 | nevcairiel | so, 900-1300 USD |
| 17:50.58 | Arrow|tablet | Yeah I'm only coming from the Midwest, so its maybe 5-8 hours with a layover |
| 17:51.27 | Arrow|tablet | Damn I have to be back at work in 10 minutes |
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| 17:52.06 | Arrow|tablet | And free node doesn't like me connecting with AndChat from my phones data connection |
| 17:52.54 | Unkle | And he trooped around disneyland like a hero. |
| 17:53.37 | RythalWork | I think i'm looking at staying to long, it was $1000 just for the hotel room, never mind flight |
| 17:53.49 | Arrow|tablet | And had no clue what 'its a small world' was before we took him on it |
| 17:54.03 | TC-work | you should only be there for 2-3 nights |
| 17:54.18 | Arrow|tablet | I stayed 4 I think |
| 17:54.36 | RythalWork | I was looking at arriving weds, leaving monday |
| 17:54.37 | TC-work | at an expensive hotel? |
| 17:54.40 | Arrow|tablet | <PROTECTED> |
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| 17:55.11 | Arrow|tablet | I really have to go back to work now |
| 17:57.10 | Unkle | Yeah, if you get there Wednesday, that's when the lot of us go out for dinner/drinks/socializing/capturing a hotel bar - and then we usually hit Disney up on Sunday. |
| 18:00.05 | RythalWork | 2 weeks i'll finally discover how much i'm getting paid at my new job... that'll help determine what my "hopeful" plans are |
| 18:00.26 | RythalWork | nothing like working day in and day out for a month now, and no clue what your even being paid |
| 18:00.29 | zenzelezz | http://i.imgur.com/AmjHH0i.png |
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| 18:00.57 | nevcairiel | RythalWork: that seems like an odd arrangement you have there |
| 18:01.43 | RythalWork | nevcairiel: it was just never a question I thought to ask during the interviews... I was just excited to be working again |
| 18:01.58 | nevcairiel | dont they usually ask you what you want to earn |
| 18:02.13 | nevcairiel | or you sign a contract that mentions this? |
| 18:02.32 | RythalWork | no... never signed a contract, just NDA's |
| 18:02.55 | RythalWork | and they asked me, but it ended up being turned into a joke by the 3 people interviewing me instead of a real answer... |
| 18:03.30 | TC-work | Sounds like a lovely place to work |
| 18:04.14 | TC-work | On the other hand the interview i just went to i got turned down because i was not empathic enough. |
| 18:04.27 | RythalWork | it's a small company, only 30 employees around the world... and they just got 3.3M euro in venture... so they are still learning the hiring part :P but i'm sure they'll pay enough i'll be happy |
| 18:05.01 | nevcairiel | sometimes i wish i would work for a small company where everything is simple |
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| 18:16.03 | TC-work | So a band just came up on pandora called "Throbbing Gristle." noty. |
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| 18:17.20 | Arrowmaster` | i feel so dirty, using webchat from my tablet |
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| 18:23.52 | karl_w_w | so it's taken me almost 4 years, but I've picked a twitter avatar |
| 18:23.57 | karl_w_w | who's proud of me? |
| 18:24.31 | TC-work | No one, you use twitter |
| 18:26.04 | karl_w_w | I don't tweet about me, if it helps :P |
| 18:26.23 | TC-work | not really |
| 18:27.01 | TC-work | The only use i like of twitter is for support updates when the site is down |
| 18:27.05 | karl_w_w | I've never in my life done a "I'm shopping, aren't I really cool!" update on any social networking crap |
| 18:27.20 | Unkle | TC-work is a curmudgeon. Twitter and all other social networks make him want to yell at kids to get off his lawn. |
| 18:28.10 | TC-work | I'm an 80 year old man in a 80 year old mans body |
| 18:28.20 | Unkle | If you're 80, I'm 120. |
| 18:28.47 | TC-work | You look good for 120 |
| 18:29.04 | Unkle | Real good. In fact, I look MAH-VELOUS |
| 18:29.13 | TC-work | darling |
| 18:29.32 | Unkle | Remember, to look good is to feel good. |
| 18:30.06 | TC-work | I assume you mean to ones self |
| 18:30.16 | TC-work | since 'looking good' is somewhat subjective |
| 18:31.35 | RythalWork | if your looking good, you should tweet about it |
| 18:31.56 | TC-work | ~lart RythalWork |
| 18:31.56 | purl | whacks RythalWork with the cluebat |
| 18:32.17 | Semlar | it's not very effective.. |
| 18:39.15 | karl_w_w | whacks Semlar with a leper gnome |
| 18:39.39 | Semlar | why'd you go and do that fer |
| 18:40.14 | karl_w_w | enjoyment |
| 18:40.26 | Semlar | the gnome's? |
| 18:40.35 | TC-work | light S&M with a leper gnome? |
| 18:40.42 | cogwheel | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0EIZa5e9q4 |
| 18:40.46 | cogwheel | wat |
| 18:42.30 | Semlar | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GcatQSyRK6c |
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| 19:09.10 | pompy | Bibi: http://blue.mmo-champion.com/topic/254300-blizzcon-2013-storms-anaheim-november-8-9/ for some reason the "source" link is linking to a 404? |
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| 20:12.39 | pompy | g0urra: yeahh |
| 20:13.34 | Mr_Rabies | 10 minute scarley monastery |
| 20:13.35 | Mr_Rabies | not bad |
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| 20:14.07 | Mr_Rabies | scarlet* |
| 20:14.13 | Humbedooh | scary* |
| 20:16.44 | TC-work | scarley monstrosity! |
| 20:17.01 | Semlar | scarley marley |
| 20:20.38 | pompy | http://nerdreactor.com/2013/02/19/pbs-to-air-a-special-about-video-game-violence-tonight/ |
| 20:25.26 | TC-work | well, win or lose, he is getting paid to play games. |
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| 20:38.57 | Humbedooh | tharper: gaaaay (the picture) |
| 20:39.02 | tharper | SO GAY |
| 20:39.04 | Humbedooh | just sayin' |
| 20:39.16 | tharper | kinda hot, isn't it? |
| 20:39.40 | Humbedooh | makes me wonder who Clark Kent is kissing |
| 20:39.59 | Humbedooh | is it Prins Daniel? it could look like him... |
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| 20:46.46 | kd3 | gah |
| 20:47.01 | kd3 | no wonder I didn't see the new build... I was checking the live cdn |
| 20:49.28 | foxlit | why are all the recent ptr builds like 1gb each? Can't be pushing out that much actual content every week. |
| 20:49.52 | kd3 | they're not shipping out deltas from build to build |
| 20:50.18 | MysticalOS | right they are just outright replacing old mpq instead of patching diff between builds |
| 20:50.36 | MysticalOS | so that there aren't like 20-30 ptr mpqs |
| 20:50.49 | MysticalOS | killing me on downloads though |
| 20:51.25 | kd3 | yah |
| 20:51.31 | kd3 | 2 hours to go still |
| 20:51.32 | kd3 | sighs |
| 20:55.41 | Neffi | Anyone lose achievements after not playing a character for a long time? |
| 20:55.52 | MysticalOS | nope |
| 20:56.06 | Neffi | I KNOW my old rogue had Wrecking Ball. I just went back to that server and he doesn't have it. He's also missing some other achieves I'm pretty sure he had. |
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| 20:58.44 | kd3 | oops: https://twitter.com/Cmdr_Hadfield/statuses/303756642489606145 |
| 20:58.52 | kd3 | bad. bad! don't tempt fate like that |
| 20:59.14 | foxlit | what could possibly go wrong? |
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| 20:59.27 | kd3 | this: http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/station/expeditions/expedition34/e34_021913.html |
| 21:00.15 | foxlit | minor communication difficulties lasting less than 3 hours? |
| 21:00.24 | Maldivia | well, at least their twitter is working again... |
| 21:01.55 | Maldivia | Humbedooh: color me intrigued... clark kent kissing? |
| 21:02.18 | Humbedooh | Maldivia: it's from tharper's twitter pic of two guys kissing |
| 21:03.22 | Maldivia | yeah ok, see it |
| 21:06.00 | mikma | humbedooh: ULTRAGAAAAAAAYYYYYYY |
| 21:06.40 | mikma | hahaa, take that you tharper |
| 21:08.55 | mikma | http://www.thesuperficial.com/rihanna-bottle-club-attack-chris-brown-02-2013 - HAH! |
| 21:11.57 | Maldivia | I don't get it... |
| 21:14.38 | Humbedooh | mikma: yer got that right! |
| 21:16.59 | VIad | http://imgur.com/gallery/80ddw |
| 21:18.00 | mikma | viad: topic is irrelevant |
| 21:18.11 | VIad | mikma: I don't care :D |
| 21:18.25 | mikma | i do, cause it's irrelevant |
| 21:18.40 | VIad | tell Cairenn|afk |
| 21:18.44 | VIad | :P |
| 21:18.57 | mikma | why? |
| 21:20.49 | Semlar | this is very, very, very old |
| 21:21.39 | Semlar | that tiger has been dead for years |
| 21:29.51 | VIad | looked funny |
| 21:29.57 | VIad | Semlar: got any tips to my html issue? |
| 21:30.05 | Semlar | fix it |
| 21:30.07 | VIad | asked a while ago but got no response |
| 21:30.54 | Semlar | make a table |
| 21:31.03 | Semlar | that's always the solution |
| 21:32.07 | VIad | buuuut |
| 21:32.09 | VIad | tables :( |
| 21:32.45 | VIad | (15:52:11) VIad: hmm, maybe someone here knows, I am trying to make a grid on a page, and I'd wish for the blocks to dynamically scale in size to fill the empty space - let me show you - http://vlacula.no-ip.com/demo.wmv |
| 21:32.46 | VIad | (15:52:37) VIad: I'd like to make the blocks in the grid instead dynamically allocate available space :/ |
| 21:32.51 | VIad | take a look at the video Semlar |
| 21:34.26 | Neffi | What's the WoW phone support number? |
| 21:34.29 | Semlar | use percentages for their dimensions instead of fixed pixel widths |
| 21:34.45 | Neffi | Their shitty knowledge base has me running in circles. |
| 21:35.22 | Semlar | the way it in on that video is probably better than making them scale by the way |
| 21:37.15 | Semlar | in/is |
| 21:37.39 | VIad | yeah but I wonder how I can do it |
| 21:38.00 | VIad | it's div objects |
| 21:38.07 | VIad | using display inline block |
| 21:38.24 | Semlar | with fixed dimensions |
| 21:38.27 | VIad | not sure how I can make them scale up at certain point to fill the available space of the parent |
| 21:38.33 | VIad | atm they are fixed |
| 21:38.35 | kd3 | neffi; https://us.battle.net/support/en/ticket/submit |
| 21:38.40 | Semlar | make them percentages |
| 21:38.52 | VIad | hmm |
| 21:39.03 | Humbedooh | mmh |
| 21:41.34 | VIad | I think css3 needs to be supported by more browsers |
| 21:41.38 | VIad | including latest firefox |
| 21:41.47 | Maldivia | VIad: go code the support then |
| 21:41.57 | Semlar | this isn't a css3 problem |
| 21:42.08 | VIad | no but there is a lot of css3 stuff not available to use :P |
| 21:42.15 | VIad | like "width: fit-content" |
| 21:42.19 | VIad | and many others |
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| 21:44.26 | bleeter | so The Cave isn't out yet for linux, delayed again (dunno how long) |
| 21:44.28 | bleeter | is sad |
| 21:44.36 | Fisker | murder them |
| 21:44.43 | bleeter | NOOO LEAVE RON ALONE! |
| 21:44.50 | bleeter | murders Fisker |
| 21:45.32 | VIad | Semlar: what is your take on ubuntu for phone and tablet? |
| 21:45.47 | bleeter | FUNBUNTU! |
| 21:45.51 | Fisker | it's shit |
| 21:45.58 | Semlar | i don't know, i don't use ubuntu |
| 21:46.02 | bleeter | STOP THE WORLD I AGREE WITH FISKER!!!! |
| 21:46.26 | Fisker | i don't wanna get amazon'd |
| 21:46.27 | Semlar | i don't particularly like ubuntu either |
| 21:46.39 | bleeter | ubuntu is spyware |
| 21:46.50 | Fisker | totally bleeter |
| 21:46.56 | Humbedooh | kk mr stallman |
| 21:46.59 | bleeter | but, for newbies... it does have some advantages |
| 21:47.18 | bleeter | Humbedooh: I am not Stallman. I don't eat my toenails! |
| 21:47.21 | bleeter | in public, at least |
| 21:47.40 | bleeter | also, I sing better than him |
| 21:47.45 | bleeter | though yes that's not at all hard |
| 21:48.02 | bleeter | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9sJUDx7iEJw |
| 21:52.57 | Humbedooh | indeed, it makes me sad to hear :| |
| 21:54.41 | bleeter | I haven't listened to that in years and I still want to tear my ears out |
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| 22:02.37 | foxlit | http://www.wowpedia.org/Mist-Piercing_Goggles << the flavor text contradicts the Equip: tag on the effect; I wonder what's lying |
| 22:03.16 | xyphoid | they definitely work while not worn |
| 22:03.50 | xyphoid | you can tell when a herb or whatever is a bonus one - there's a patch of mist around it and it's translucent |
| 22:04.20 | Fisker | i once misted a guy |
| 22:04.31 | Semlar | that's pretty gay, fisker |
| 22:04.39 | Fisker | nah |
| 22:04.41 | bleeter | pics or it didn't happen |
| 22:04.44 | Fisker | only gay if balls are touching |
| 22:04.50 | Semlar | oh alright |
| 22:05.03 | Fisker | my "healing" spheres was nowhere near his |
| 22:09.31 | Mr_Rabies | ugh |
| 22:09.42 | Mr_Rabies | temple of kotmogu is like a horde honor factory |
| 22:10.13 | Mr_Rabies | why does this legendary questline require pvp :< |
| 22:10.45 | kd3 | just queue again? I actually got lucky in my kotmogu run... got something like 3 achieves out of it |
| 22:11.02 | Mr_Rabies | just did two in a row where it was like 200-1600 |
| 22:11.04 | Mr_Rabies | :< |
| 22:11.08 | bleeter | oh dear, yay apple maps! "CFA is running a review on the FireReady app after a user's attempt to locate a fire in rural Victoria placed it in the Czech Republic." |
| 22:11.24 | Mr_Rabies | i had top damage done and almost top healing, and top killing blows, and all i did was kill people with orbs |
| 22:11.29 | kd3 | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/medivh/Kaydeethree/achievement#95:15163 |
| 22:11.33 | kd3 | ^ all of that from one run |
| 22:12.06 | Torhal|work | bleeter: I owe you one Death. |
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| 22:49.54 | smcn | is there still a cooldown for dreamcloth? |
| 22:51.06 | foxlit | yes |
| 22:51.16 | foxlit | unless you're using chaos orbs. |
| 22:51.24 | smcn | right |
| 22:51.25 | smcn | thanks |
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| 23:03.29 | Mr_Rabies | okay, making 13k for a 476 epic cloak isn't too shabby |
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| 23:06.05 | foxlit | "when you switch dual talent specializations" is such an awkwardly long phrase. |
| 23:13.39 | TC-work | then don't use it foxlit |
| 23:14.01 | foxlit | brilliant plan, TC-work. |
| 23:14.22 | TC-work | I Thought so |
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| 23:15.47 | foxlit | In fact, screw including text in addons; users can figure out what each of the 20 unlabelled checkboxes actually do by exhaustive search. |
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| 23:16.15 | TC-work | Whats wrong with "When you switch talents" |
| 23:16.39 | Dagmar | cheers for foxlit |
| 23:17.14 | TC-work | Ah Dagmar, so much rage in such a small outlet. |
| 23:17.31 | smcn | TC-work because you can change individual talents |
| 23:17.35 | foxlit | TC-work: it's ambiguous. |
| 23:18.19 | TC-work | point |
| 23:18.33 | TC-work | but you should at least be able to drop 'dual' |
| 23:19.00 | TC-work | since nothing else is called a specialization |
| 23:19.23 | foxlit | er, your specializations are called specializations. |
| 23:19.48 | foxlit | Feral and Mistweaver and Fire and so on. |
| 23:19.48 | TC-work | but not the individual ones, right? |
| 23:20.23 | foxlit | The nomenclature was messed up in 5.0 with the removal of talent trees and adding separate spec choices. |
| 23:20.56 | foxlit | There's quite tab in the talents UI called "Specialization" |
| 23:21.01 | foxlit | s/quite/a/ |
| 23:21.26 | TC-work | go with "Talent super category" XD |
| 23:22.57 | smcn | well, the issue is what exactly it does. specifying "when you switch dual talent specializations" to me means "it" happens when you "activate" another spec. "when you switch talent specializations" to me means "it" happens if you "activate" another spec OR you respec at your trainer |
| 23:23.27 | smcn | the latter probably isn't as big a deal so you could get rid of "dual" |
| 23:23.44 | foxlit | it's the former meaning I'm after -- when you switch between primary/secondary spec. |
| 23:26.25 | smcn | if it's a label for a button or checkbox then i'd say "when you switch talent specs" (or even without "talent") and make a tooltip that's more descriptive |
| 23:28.00 | foxlit | I think that "talent specializations" is also awkward (and just specializations would probably be better) |
| 23:28.28 | kd3 | whuh? |
| 23:28.39 | kd3 | got an in-game letter from the postmaster saying it's recovered an item |
| 23:28.42 | kd3 | there's no item attached |
| 23:28.57 | Mr_Rabies | i got one of those a few weeks ago |
| 23:29.00 | VIad | kd3: gotten that too myself |
| 23:29.05 | Humbedooh | it's a cloak of invisibility, obviously |
| 23:29.22 | Humbedooh | you're a wizard, kd3! |
| 23:29.44 | foxlit | smcn: a tooltip wouldn't work in the context, unfortunately. |
| 23:29.52 | TC-work | I have a staff with a knob at the end! |
| 23:30.15 | foxlit | TC-work: smcn: but anyhow, thank you for your suggestions :) |
| 23:30.33 | TC-work | damit foxlit, I was not trying to be helpful |
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| 23:31.01 | foxlit | TC-work: special billing as being super helpful in the changelog, coming right up! |
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| 23:31.54 | TC-work | Pfft, no one reads that stuff foxlit |
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| 23:32.27 | foxlit | but it's the only way they'll ever learn which of the 20 unlabelled checkboxes does what. |
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