| 00:00.16 | MysticalOS | probably had to tweak client at last second only |
| 00:02.21 | MysticalOS | english files are also 16562 |
| 00:02.27 | MysticalOS | it is only base that is 16558 |
| 00:03.04 | MysticalOS | i hope i don't download 58 and then they go "oops our bad" and upload a 62 of base |
| 00:05.23 | MysticalOS | i hope THIS is the patch that finally has icons and client strings for BDA |
| 00:19.36 | Amarande | btw, has Blizzard permanently ceased releasing patches with a third number of anything but 0? |
| 00:20.03 | kd3 | ? |
| 00:20.07 | Amarande | I've noticed we got 5.1.0a, say, instead of 5.1.1, and already the next patch is 5.2.0 |
| 00:20.36 | Amarande | unless they've just decided we need new content rapidly enough that there's not time for inter-patchy type stuff anymore. heh. |
| 00:21.04 | Amarande | kd3: I just got the impression that in past times, 5.1.0a would probably have been 5.1.1 or 5.1.2 |
| 00:21.12 | kd3 | eh |
| 00:21.20 | Semlar|Laptop | those would be minor patches |
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| 00:22.24 | Amarande | heh. speaking of patches. looking at some old, old times in WoW history |
| 00:22.28 | Amarande | "Filling jars of ooze no longer puts you into combat." |
| 00:22.34 | Amarande | I'm not even quite sure where this occurred :) |
| 00:22.54 | Amarande | in fact, I'm a bit foggy on where we ever filled jars of ooze in WoW, except it was in vanilla, since this was from 1.4 |
| 00:25.27 | Amarande | also back then apparently tier gear was called "lower" and "upper" tier, apparently even the thought of a third tier set hadn't crystallised yet :) |
| 00:25.36 | Amarande | ahhhh, the olden days. |
| 00:26.44 | TC-work | what the place just south of arathi highlands? |
| 00:26.50 | TC-work | whats* |
| 00:27.04 | TC-work | wetlands |
| 00:27.25 | TC-work | i think at the north point of that along the road is where you filled jars of ooze...but i could be wrong |
| 00:27.29 | TC-work | It has been a while |
| 00:29.46 | Amarande | it also seems like vanilla had a distinctly different design paradigm from any of the expansions |
| 00:30.01 | Amarande | almost like, in fact, Blizzard actually decided as they went along what to add in when |
| 00:30.28 | Amarande | (hence say patch notes that refer to upper and lower tier gear, since T3 didn't appear until almost the end of vanilla and probably wasn't even thought of early on) |
| 00:31.13 | Amarande | now with the expansions, they all seem to be pre-planned start to finish before release and we often know even before the expansion hits what most of the story arc will be and often even who the final major raid antagonist will be |
| 00:31.32 | VIad | Amarande: you talk a lot |
| 00:31.34 | Amarande | I doubt anyone knew early in Vanilla that their last raid boss would be Kel'thuzad, say :) |
| 00:31.42 | VIad | :3 |
| 00:31.56 | VIad | how are you? |
| 00:32.17 | Amarande | Mind you, the way things were balanced, unless you looked at the Blizz Store or were a real lorehound, most players probably didn't even know who Kel'Thuzad even really was until Wrath, LOL |
| 00:32.21 | Amarande | Good. :) |
| 00:32.30 | Amarande | It's snowing hard out, the power's still on, it's a good day. |
| 00:32.36 | VIad | good day |
| 00:32.40 | VIad | http://imgur.com/gallery/PlnFq8E |
| 00:59.00 | Ackis | anyone know how to move the radar that pops up on sha of fear in dbm? |
| 01:02.24 | Neffi | Walking a quarter mile in snow to get red bull and strawberry milk: worth it |
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| 01:31.27 | kd3 | damn it |
| 01:31.45 | kd3 | halfway through getting base-16558 and 16562 pops |
| 01:32.13 | foxlit | you could just wait for the PTR to come up and patch like normal people? :) |
| 01:32.34 | kd3 | considering it takes ~2 hours to download a gig, the earlier I get started, the better |
| 01:32.48 | MysticalOS | they finally uploaded base 16562? |
| 01:32.50 | MysticalOS | i was afraid they'd do that |
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| 01:37.20 | MysticalOS | i doubt there will be UI diffs from 58 vs 62 |
| 01:37.24 | MysticalOS | then again could be who knows |
| 01:37.33 | MysticalOS | probably just last minute assets for LFR tweaks |
| 01:37.41 | kd3 | it doesn't matter as I'm not going to make a diff to or from 58 |
| 01:38.50 | Amarande | any word yet on 5.2 release, or still "soon"? |
| 01:39.01 | kd3 | they're going to give a 2 week warning |
| 01:39.22 | kd3 | largely because of the end of the arena season |
| 01:39.30 | Amarande | and *thankfully* they're keeping t14 relevant |
| 01:39.56 | Amarande | since I'm pretty sure every alt has to go through the sigils stuff before they can go to the next step of the legendary chain |
| 01:40.18 | Amarande | and with the next step being, perhaps, a lot more significant than the current stuff ... |
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| 01:54.08 | MysticalOS | as long as they lower test of valor at some point |
| 01:54.30 | MysticalOS | 6 week gating on VP was fine when relevant but far too unforgiving catchup |
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| 02:13.44 | Amarande | the big concern being this |
| 02:14.21 | Amarande | not everyone even really has use of the current legendary award, because with terribad loot rates in LFR, quite a lot of people have the gems but keep failing to get the weapons they can be used in :P |
| 02:14.28 | Amarande | however, everyone uses a meta gem |
| 02:14.52 | Amarande | and I'm presuming that the orange meta gem is going to make all other metas noticeably suck by comparison so you've either got it or you're square :P |
| 02:15.16 | Amarande | do we have stats for it yet? |
| 02:16.19 | Neffi | It seems so |
| 02:17.16 | Amarande | say, are we getting epic gems with 5.2 or are those waiting for Orgrimmar? |
| 02:18.12 | Neffi | http://ptr.wowhead.com/items=3.6?filter=cr=81:82;crs=1:1;crv=0:50100 |
| 02:18.20 | Neffi | those? |
| 02:20.37 | Amarande | yeah, those are the legendary metas |
| 02:22.23 | Amarande | hmmmmm. wonder if it's a big enough difference that eventually if you don't have one of those you'll be looked at like you might as well have used a cata metagem :P |
| 02:23.43 | Neffi | Google Maps -> Directions -> The Shire, Mordor -> Walking |
| 02:24.30 | kd3 | http://goo.gl/maps/HB8h7 |
| 02:25.28 | nebula169 | cute |
| 02:26.32 | Neffi | Mordor is in West Philadelphia? |
| 02:26.38 | Neffi | No wonder Will Smith left |
| 02:30.11 | Adys | randomly googling coordinates |
| 02:30.13 | Adys | http://maps.camdencyclists.org.uk/DBlogs/updatelog.txt |
| 02:30.14 | Adys | finding this |
| 02:30.16 | Adys | little creepy |
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| 02:31.35 | Amarande | heh, speaking of creepy and coordinates |
| 02:31.47 | Amarande | I remember some years ago having a discussion about coordinates and I just pull right out of my head a certain pair of coords |
| 02:31.58 | Amarande | and I'm thinking like I should remember what they are but I couldn't quite place them ... |
| 02:32.29 | Amarande | coords: 41deg 46min N, 50deg 14min W |
| 02:34.28 | Amarande | I'll give you a hint: hundreds of people died after visiting those coordinates a long time ago |
| 02:37.34 | Neffi | Man, I figured the 'net would go down in the storm, but I didn't count on being able to connect to everything *besides* Battle.net and WoW |
| 02:37.38 | Neffi | This is just taunting. =( |
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| 02:45.14 | aggixx | Hello, I'm working on a custom loot addon for my guild and I've run into what seems to be a caching issue. When GetItemInfo() returns nil I add the link to a table and that table is looped through on GET_ITEM_INFO_RECIEVED to recheck if the item info is available yet, but some items seem to never resolve. What's the best way to go about fixing this without spamming the server with data requests? |
| 02:46.56 | Neffi | aggixx: I don't believe GetItemInfo queries the server for uncached items at all, so you need to query the server |
| 02:47.11 | Neffi | Make a hidden GameTooltip item and set the tooltip to the item to be queried |
| 02:47.47 | Shadowed | it doesn't and you're right |
| 02:47.52 | aggixx | As far as I understand that was changed in cataclysm: "but (starting in Cataclysm) will asynchronously query the server to provide the missing data." |
| 02:48.14 | Neffi | source on that? |
| 02:48.20 | Neffi | AFAIK that's incorrect |
| 02:48.22 | Adys | no need for a source, it's correct |
| 02:48.59 | Adys | aggixx: there's basically no way; best you can do is a timeout |
| 02:49.06 | Neffi | Well if the query is intermittently failing, then you seemingly need to use a tooltip anyway |
| 02:49.18 | Adys | The query won't intermittently fail |
| 02:49.35 | Adys | it just won't resolve for items that don't exist or are, for some other reason, still locked |
| 02:50.26 | Adys | I recommend two timeouts: a disk timeout (~10 ms should be more than enough) and a server timeout (depending on your needs, 80-250ms is enough, but you might want to go lower if you need to query a lot of items) |
| 02:51.11 | Adys | GetItemInfo will exclusively return data synchronously if it is readily available in memory (= has been seen this session) |
| 02:51.39 | aggixx | I was considering adding each item link with a timestamp and then simply calling GetItemInfo() again after a certain amount of time had passed, would that work? |
| 02:52.09 | Adys | no, an item link is just text, it won't be enough for the server to query the item |
| 02:52.38 | Adys | you need to call either GetItemInfo or SetItemRef on a tooltip |
| 02:54.02 | aggixx | Yeah, I understand that an item link doesn't cause a query, I meant repeating GetItemInfo(itemLink) every couple hundred milliseconds until it succeeded |
| 02:54.24 | Adys | yes, you can do that |
| 02:54.46 | Adys | it's in fact more reliable than the event itself as the event doesn't give you the id of the queried item |
| 02:54.47 | Adys | *but* |
| 02:54.57 | Adys | if you dont query a lot of items, rely on the event |
| 02:55.04 | aggixx | is there any sort of disconnection risk involved with that? |
| 02:55.34 | Adys | "yes" |
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| 02:56.00 | Adys | but it's on the order of... I don't know, was it 40-50 per seconds or something? |
| 02:56.31 | aggixx | Yeah I read a very old post that said 5 links not seen by the server since restart within a 50 second window is a DC, wasn't sure if that was still the case |
| 02:56.48 | aggixx | In any case these links would have always been seen by the server |
| 02:56.53 | Adys | that was probably my post, and it was the case pre cataclysm |
| 02:57.06 | Iriel | Bear in mind there's 2 DC risks |
| 02:57.09 | Adys | cataclysm pretty much lifted that |
| 02:57.10 | Iriel | There's flood prevention |
| 02:57.18 | Iriel | and there's any kind of "please dont farm our DB" protection |
| 02:57.34 | Adys | yeah Iriel is right. I think it's just flood protection now |
| 02:57.44 | aggixx | yeah, my addon would trigger neither of those. I'm only querying 6 items at a time very infrequently, nothing the client wouldn't already be doing |
| 02:57.55 | Adys | you're not at risk then |
| 02:58.23 | Adys | last I checked you're still at risk with quests though |
| 02:58.31 | Adys | in case thats relevant to you |
| 02:59.00 | aggixx | Nope. Thanks for the answers, much appreciate it. |
| 02:59.14 | Adys | that'll be twenty five bucks |
| 02:59.59 | aggixx | D: |
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| 03:16.45 | Amarande | also, to nitpick, if you spell it "RECIEVED" you might end up with a buggy addon. *ducks* |
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| 03:45.09 | aggixx | haha, I faintly recall spelling it wrong at first |
| 03:46.53 | Seerah | i before e except after c :) |
| 03:47.06 | Seerah | unless the spelling is weird ;) |
| 04:04.48 | kd3 | emails out |
| 04:05.44 | Semlar | to be fair, they misspelled it for EJ_LOOT_DATA_RECIEVED |
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| 04:38.13 | TC-work | ~ping |
| 04:38.13 | purl | ~pong |
| 05:02.57 | aggixx | Is there anything special I have to do to get enterClicksFirstButton to work on a EditBox StaticPopupDialog? It works for all of my other popups but not the one with the edit box. |
| 05:17.10 | karl_w_w | my guess is the enter gets swallowed by the edit box and there's nothing you can do about it |
| 05:36.01 | aggixx | that sounds rather unfortunate |
| 05:45.00 | Mr_Rabies | whoadang |
| 05:45.02 | Mr_Rabies | 5.2 preloading |
| 05:45.03 | Mr_Rabies | :O |
| 05:51.53 | Neffi | 'bout time |
| 05:52.00 | Neffi | Don't count on it hitting too soon |
| 05:52.09 | Neffi | the mage changes were considered "experimental" |
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| 06:14.54 | kd3 | hahah http://imgur.com/O0YQjdH |
| 06:15.38 | Cairenn | lol |
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| 06:23.21 | Ackis | Cairenn: is there big snow storm out there? |
| 06:25.46 | Mr_Rabies | do any august celestial quests open at exalted? :o |
| 06:26.42 | Cairenn | Yes |
| 06:27.32 | kd3 | no, mr_rabies |
| 06:27.46 | Mr_Rabies | I'M GETTING MIXED MESSAGES |
| 06:27.49 | Mr_Rabies | :p |
| 06:28.04 | Mr_Rabies | i know Cairenn was replying to ackis but COMEDY |
| 06:28.10 | kd3 | hell, there are no ac quests that are rep-gated |
| 06:28.12 | Cairenn | lol |
| 06:28.29 | kd3 | outside of the golden lotus revered stupidity |
| 06:28.30 | Ackis | Cairenn: okay then... I saw a picture of people shovelling the 401 |
| 06:28.36 | Cairenn | yeah |
| 06:35.36 | Cairenn | It's been snowing here for 20 hrs or so |
| 06:35.55 | Mr_Rabies | hmmm |
| 06:36.11 | Mr_Rabies | is the cloud serpent race quest not a daily :O |
| 06:36.23 | kd3 | no |
| 06:36.41 | kd3 | there's a 1 in... 5? chance that the race set gets chosen |
| 06:37.03 | Mr_Rabies | ah, okay |
| 06:37.10 | Mr_Rabies | i did two sets yesterday, because i hit revered |
| 06:42.01 | Ackis | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/7864486403 bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa |
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| 06:47.43 | mikma | ackis: what a noob, dps below tanks, lol! |
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| 06:51.08 | Mr_Rabies | last night i was in a group with myself as a tank, and the healer, as top 2 dps |
| 06:51.19 | Mr_Rabies | we did ~60-70% of the group's dps, combined |
| 06:51.34 | Mr_Rabies | i have the worst luck |
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| 10:02.22 | zenzelezz | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:10.15 | Maldivia | zenzelezz: I try to avoid pressing the button - don't like being forced to things... :P |
| 10:11.05 | zenzelezz | I do agree, but most of the time it's pretty much "hit button or die" |
| 10:11.25 | zenzelezz | since apparently that's the only challenge you can make to console games; and they can't be bothered to be more creative on the PC versions |
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| 12:58.47 | bluspacecow | https://docs.google.com/document/d/1H0n0N6QK6WkYruoFaQ-4iYsc-wNjQ0Q15YYn3uFcEBg/edit |
| 12:58.53 | bluspacecow | 5.2 prepatch data links |
| 13:03.24 | Fisker | no thanks bluspacecow |
| 13:03.30 | Fisker | i don't want trojans and stuff |
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| 13:04.05 | bluspacecow | you will take my trojans and you will like them sir! |
| 13:04.27 | Fisker | nope |
| 13:04.36 | Fisker | i wanted a surface pro bluspacecow |
| 13:04.44 | bluspacecow | mad ? |
| 13:05.36 | A-KO | why don't you want it now? |
| 13:05.49 | VIad | bluspacecow: I see you favor US client |
| 13:05.57 | bluspacecow | yep |
| 13:06.03 | VIad | racist |
| 13:06.21 | bluspacecow | you can change for your local |
| 13:06.28 | VIad | :3 |
| 13:06.29 | bluspacecow | just make /NA/ = /EU/ |
| 13:06.29 | nevcairiel | The US probably contain people of every possible race, how is that racist now? :p |
| 13:06.44 | bluspacecow | and /enUS/ = whatever your locale of choice |
| 13:06.52 | VIad | I was janking your chain |
| 13:07.17 | bluspacecow | I can type up instructions on that on the 2nd page but in the middle of figuring out something else for someone else. |
| 13:07.32 | Fisker | because i saw that Microsoft supports terrorism A-KO |
| 13:10.02 | VIad | http://imgur.com/gallery/GABQloU |
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| 14:04.29 | Amarande | damn it, blizzard. the D3 1.0.7 preview page is instead a lovely Page of Browser Hanging :P |
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| 14:58.08 | znf | VIad, think they fixed that, btw :D |
| 14:59.44 | karl_w_w | i love that cling film only sticks to plastic when plastic is the 1 thing you're least likely to need to cover with cling film |
| 15:00.47 | VIad | znf: fixed what? |
| 15:00.57 | znf | VIad, the CRZ thingie |
| 15:01.04 | VIad | aah, how you know? :p |
| 15:01.49 | znf | people keep saying it |
| 15:01.55 | znf | haven't tried it myself |
| 15:02.24 | VIad | aah |
| 15:02.33 | VIad | about time |
| 15:02.42 | VIad | btw planing to format my machine soon |
| 15:03.42 | VIad | after format I junction the appdata folders I need and bom, mail, browser, and some other data is instantly restored :3 |
| 15:09.46 | karl_w_w | planing to format your machine? seems rather harsh |
| 15:09.56 | karl_w_w | won't that damage your hard drive? |
| 15:10.24 | VIad | NO |
| 15:10.31 | VIad | I like to clean it |
| 15:14.21 | kullervo | hmh... the curse client won't recognize my addons as being "modified" unless I manually refresh the list |
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| 15:15.50 | neutronimity | I am back with my "macro"-problem. |
| 15:16.02 | Gnarfoz | this time |
| 15:16.07 | Gnarfoz | post the macro firsT? |
| 15:16.30 | acethebunny | what to do for 15 minutes ... |
| 15:16.33 | acethebunny | inb4 fap |
| 15:16.49 | neutronimity | Draw yourself. |
| 15:17.30 | Amarande | znf: pity they introduced another irritating issue with CRZ, particularly from an addon production standpoint :| |
| 15:17.54 | Sintacks | eh? |
| 15:18.05 | znf | Amarande, I was referring to an "exploit" disabling CRZ |
| 15:18.21 | Sintacks | Amarande, go on |
| 15:18.21 | Amarande | Sintacks: it used to be that things happened at a fixed server time on all realms, which meant addons could rely on this fact |
| 15:18.33 | Amarande | now, in order to accommodate CRZ, things instead happen at a fixed Pacific time |
| 15:18.39 | Sintacks | o.O |
| 15:18.45 | Amarande | which means addons need to go to all the extra trouble to figure out what server time that is |
| 15:19.17 | neutronimity | http://pastebin.com/AWm8Ku69 |
| 15:19.34 | Gnarfoz | why /use |
| 15:19.36 | Gnarfoz | instead of cast |
| 15:19.42 | Sintacks | cuz it's 1 char shorter |
| 15:20.11 | Gnarfoz | Sintacks: macro is not long enough to bother with that |
| 15:20.23 | Sintacks | consistancy then |
| 15:20.37 | Sintacks | you got a problem with /use ? |
| 15:21.36 | neutronimity | http://pastebin.com/EtzFzk3M consistency with this, but i'm not here to start a fight :< |
| 15:22.32 | Sintacks | /cast [spec:1,mod:alt,@player] Sacred Shield; [spec:1] Avenger's Shield; [spec:2,mod:alt] Divine Protection ; [spec:2] Exorcism |
| 15:22.33 | Sintacks | o |
| 15:22.50 | Sintacks | lol neutronimity. there's nothing wrong with using /use. they both do the same thing |
| 15:22.59 | neutronimity | Yup |
| 15:23.27 | Sintacks | what speciflcy is wrong with your pally macro anyway |
| 15:23.39 | neutronimity | The problem in this particular case is that it somehow becomes corrupt mid-fight |
| 15:23.47 | Sintacks | o.O |
| 15:23.53 | Sintacks | how so? |
| 15:24.11 | neutronimity | It happens VERY randomly, and while the button indicates being pressed, the macro will not function any more |
| 15:24.22 | neutronimity | until a reloadui |
| 15:24.32 | Sintacks | that's odd |
| 15:24.56 | Amarande | znf: also, if you really hate CRZ, just play on Ravenholdt or The Venture Co, you'll have to get used to RPPVP though :) |
| 15:25.07 | znf | I'm not USian |
| 15:25.09 | neutronimity | With Semlar's advice I have disabled addons, and ran through 1 LFR (where it most often breaks), and it didn't seem to have a problem then. |
| 15:25.29 | Sintacks | still doens't make sense |
| 15:25.39 | Sintacks | does the warrior one work? |
| 15:26.08 | neutronimity | All of my macros placed on 1-5 and F1-F3 seem to break randomly |
| 15:26.20 | neutronimity | They all share the same syntax with the macros linked above |
| 15:26.32 | Sintacks | what barmod do you use |
| 15:26.36 | neutronimity | None |
| 15:26.46 | Sintacks | that's even weirder |
| 15:27.11 | neutronimity | BugGrabber, BugSack, Clique, Engraved |
| 15:27.14 | neutronimity | Those I use |
| 15:27.28 | neutronimity | The bug addons I installed recently to track this error down |
| 15:27.34 | neutronimity | They show nothing. |
| 15:27.39 | neutronimity | no errors. |
| 15:27.46 | neutronimity | Even when it was breaking - no errors. |
| 15:28.08 | neutronimity | I have now ran with only Clique and the bug addons enabled, and it broke, so it may be Clique |
| 15:29.22 | neutronimity | I'll come back later :x |
| 15:30.25 | karl_w_w | i learnt something new today! ironing smooths out clothes because clothes are made of glass! |
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| 15:32.11 | Sintacks | i normally hate just for laughs, cuz their shit's stupid. but this one's good - http://www.wimp.com/charityprank/ |
| 15:35.14 | karl_w_w | oh piss |
| 15:35.33 | karl_w_w | library didnt send me an email to say my reservation is ready |
| 15:35.36 | Gnarfoz | Sintacks: it just sticks out, that's all. he's having weird problems. :) |
| 15:36.07 | karl_w_w | and they arent open on sundays :( |
| 15:36.55 | karl_w_w | that's sooper dooper annoying |
| 15:45.16 | Amarande | but today is Saturday |
| 15:45.29 | karl_w_w | only for the next 15 minutes |
| 15:46.52 | Amarande | hmmm, you know, I get this snide feeling like Blizzard is actually admitting that the worgen starting area is just buggered in MoP :) |
| 15:46.58 | Amarande | not directly, but kind of implying heh |
| 15:49.43 | Amarande | you know how if you're at the character generation screen and you haven't clicked on any of the classes, if you click through the races it defaults to a certain class for each? |
| 15:50.12 | Amarande | ... for worgen, despite it being one of the three races that have a special racial starting experience that you'd think they'd want you to see |
| 15:50.18 | Amarande | the suggested default class is Death Knight. :) |
| 16:03.51 | karl_w_w | "Now please imagine Red Bull as a person. Often, when you hear a person's name you have a certain picture of what this person would be like. Please assess on a scale of 1 to 5, which of these traits Red Bull as a person would have, in your opinion. " |
| 16:03.53 | karl_w_w | >.> |
| 16:04.23 | Gnarfoz | wings? |
| 16:04.42 | karl_w_w | wings don't come up |
| 16:05.01 | karl_w_w | things like "Self-confident, knows what he is good at and does not show off" do |
| 16:05.25 | karl_w_w | "Mystic, nobody can fully grasp him" |
| 16:07.22 | karl_w_w | "Self-ironic, can laugh about himself and does not take himself too seriously" self-ironic? are you shitting me? |
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| 16:30.38 | Amarande | heh |
| 16:30.45 | Amarande | they're apparently coming out with new flavours of red bull soon |
| 16:31.00 | Amarande | I saw it in an ad in one of those industry magazines we get at work |
| 16:39.44 | Gnarfoz | a-ha |
| 16:39.48 | Gnarfoz | not even sure what you're talking about |
| 16:39.50 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 16:52.54 | Amarande | however, these new flavours seem appetising |
| 16:53.13 | Amarande | there's a lemon-lime, blueberry, and some kind of red berry or cherry or some other red fruit flavour, IIRC |
| 16:53.27 | Amarande | all of which are orders of magnitude better than the currently available red bull flavour |
| 16:53.45 | Amarande | which can be summed up succinctly in a single five-letter word |
| 17:03.19 | Arrowmaster | Cairenn: http://i.imgur.com/w4Z2QJx.gif |
| 17:03.38 | Cairenn | nice |
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| 17:17.26 | karl_w_w | <Amarande> which can be summed up succinctly in a single five-letter word <- but "vomit" is reserved for Vimto |
| 17:18.03 | Amarande | karl: "nasty" was the word I had in mind |
| 17:18.51 | Amarande | I still can't understand why people corrupt perfectly good liquor like vodka or Jager with it |
| 17:18.55 | Amarande | that's practically alcohol abuse :( |
| 17:23.33 | karl_w_w | oh man |
| 17:23.50 | karl_w_w | i just got a serious craving for samosas |
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| 18:09.03 | Maldivia | hmm, what's with the starwars traceroute :P |
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| 18:20.54 | F16Gaming | Maldivia: magic |
| 18:21.15 | Maldivia | F16Gaming: apparently just someone with too much time on their hands :P |
| 18:21.27 | F16Gaming | or that |
| 18:21.31 | F16Gaming | i prefer magic though |
| 18:21.52 | F16Gaming | maybe he used magic to get time? |
| 18:21.57 | Jammer | horrible abuse of reverse dns :p |
| 18:22.08 | F16Gaming | it's not horrible abuse if it's star wars |
| 18:22.09 | F16Gaming | :D |
| 18:22.15 | Jammer | pretty sure most isp actually require reverse to work both ways |
| 18:25.02 | Fisker | old Maldivia |
| 18:25.54 | Maldivia | 1977 :) |
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| 18:27.01 | F16Gaming | Fisker is old |
| 18:27.06 | Fisker | yes |
| 18:27.35 | F16Gaming | Fisker: do you like fish? |
| 18:27.43 | Fisker | nope |
| 18:27.50 | F16Gaming | that's an odd nick to choose then :3 |
| 18:28.00 | Fisker | do you like F16's gaming? |
| 18:28.06 | nevcairiel | who doesnt? |
| 18:28.21 | F16Gaming | i made this nick like 7 years ago :P |
| 18:28.27 | F16Gaming | cba to update |
| 18:28.31 | Fisker | i made this nick like 15 years ago |
| 18:28.34 | Fisker | ":P" |
| 18:28.43 | F16Gaming | but 15 years ago you weren't 10 years old, were you :O |
| 18:28.51 | Fisker | no |
| 18:28.54 | nevcairiel | maybe he named himself like that car brand? those fisker cars look nice |
| 18:28.55 | F16Gaming | exactly |
| 18:28.55 | Fisker | i was 11 |
| 18:29.12 | F16Gaming | 10 and 11 are very different |
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| 18:29.29 | Fisker | i was probably also underestimating the estimate dates anyway |
| 18:29.39 | F16Gaming | anyway |
| 18:29.46 | F16Gaming | fisker is kinda fisher in swedish |
| 18:29.49 | F16Gaming | if you replace e with a |
| 18:29.54 | F16Gaming | and add an e |
| 18:29.56 | F16Gaming | ... |
| 18:30.09 | Fisker | fisker is kinda fisher in danish if you don't replace anything |
| 18:30.18 | F16Gaming | who cares about danish |
| 18:30.19 | Fisker | does that upset you? |
| 18:30.19 | F16Gaming | ! |
| 18:32.33 | Sintacks | instance limit is stupid |
| 18:32.52 | Fisker | no |
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| 18:40.36 | Fisker | http://i.imgur.com/Xv6oGn6.jpg |
| 18:40.38 | Fisker | get it haste ? |
| 18:41.10 | Shirik | I get it |
| 18:43.15 | karl_w_w | I get it too |
| 18:43.37 | Shirik | now that I have translated those two lines |
| 18:43.45 | Shirik | it's much more awesome |
| 18:45.10 | Fisker | indeedidddlyo |
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| 18:50.54 | kd3 | eesh. snow measured in feet |
| 18:51.03 | kd3 | is glad he lives in the south |
| 18:51.35 | Shirik | no |
| 18:51.37 | Shirik | screw that |
| 18:51.39 | Shirik | I want that snow |
| 18:51.45 | Shirik | that was my storm and all we got was rain |
| 18:51.47 | nevcairiel | because you grew up and measure snow in metric units in the south? |
| 18:51.47 | Shirik | such BS |
| 18:52.02 | kd3 | got 1/3" of rain outside of atlanta |
| 19:08.18 | zenzelezz | kd3: I know what you mean, snow should be measured in cm, not feet |
| 19:08.37 | Kaylin | ^ |
| 19:14.45 | karl_w_w | feet are for walking on |
| 19:15.04 | karl_w_w | they are wholly too irregular and unweildy for measuring things |
| 19:16.43 | Amarande | it's actually made me come up with a semi-conspiracy theory, which I'm debating the likelihood of being the case or not. there's certainly a lot of circumstances when you think about this weather stuff to suggest it, though. |
| 19:17.21 | Amarande | specifically, that the ultra-con radicals that insist "there is no global warming" and seek to block any policy that acknowledges it are smarter than we'd like to think. :| |
| 19:18.07 | Amarande | let's see. point the first: the effects of climate change. global warming is known to be associated with increasingly extreme weather. like, oh, say, this storm. or Irene. or Sandy. or the storm last Samhain. |
| 19:18.11 | TC-Away | we should use cubits |
| 19:19.07 | Amarande | point the second: this weather tends to disproportionately affect the East Coast, and in a much more difficult to manage way than the way climate change affects the Midwest (where at least in theory, irrigation solutions can be entertained, while there's not much for a violent wind storm but to take the damage and lost economic activity and hobble on) |
| 19:19.54 | Amarande | point the third: the Midwest and deep South are where these ultra-cons tend to be most based. the eastern coast, on the other hand, except for parts of TX and SC, is almost entirely at least "purple" if not fully "blue". |
| 19:20.27 | Amarande | i.e., the effect of increasingly extreme weather patterns from global warming is to increasingly damage the economic viability of places like the Northeast, which would ultimately push people to have to leave and move west and south |
| 19:20.50 | Amarande | where their population increases government representation from the ultra-con states and meanwhile their votes are drowned out by the ultra-con crazies |
| 19:21.17 | Amarande | IOW, the idea is that they insist there's no global warming because they seek to very actively benefit from letting it happen, and not just because of Big Oil investment :| |
| 19:22.39 | karl_w_w | disproving flaw in your theory: the lunatics are neither smart enough or patient enough for such a plan |
| 19:23.03 | karl_w_w | s/ o/ no/ |
| 19:23.29 | Amarande | karl: or at least, they want us to think that. just like they want us to think there's an actual such thing as liberals in the major US parties when in reality we pretty much have two almost identical far-right parties and the difference between major politicians is mostly just HOW far right they are |
| 19:24.19 | Amarande | "liberal" as generally used by the average GOP politician: "your brand of far right corporatism doesn't agree with ours enough, now gtfo and vote for ours or we won't let anything pass" |
| 19:26.20 | Amarande | also, the higher ups in the idea probably don't want smart sounding shills here, then people will start actually seeing that there's a plot by rich people to better themselves at the people's expense instead of just seeing a bunch of lunatics :) |
| 19:26.28 | Amarande | they have a hard enough time keeping the veneer from flaking lately as it is :P |
| 19:29.09 | Amarande | in any case, if we keep getting storms like this this frequently, one can only imagine what's going to become of Connecticut :| |
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| 19:57.07 | Mr_Rabies | i really wish openraid had support for 5 man content :( |
| 19:57.22 | nevcairiel | what the hell for? |
| 19:57.38 | Mr_Rabies | can't get a premade 5 man group going for the life of me |
| 19:57.49 | Mr_Rabies | also, challenge modes |
| 19:57.56 | Amarande | yeah, challenge modes came to mind |
| 19:58.09 | nevcairiel | 5 man content is already a snooze fest in lfd, an organized group doesnt make it any more challenging =p |
| 19:58.15 | Mr_Rabies | not for me, nevcairiel |
| 19:58.19 | Mr_Rabies | i get the WORST groups |
| 19:58.35 | Mr_Rabies | i've had several take almost an hour because the rest of the group is doing like 10k dps or less |
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| 19:58.55 | Mr_Rabies | i've had several wind up with wipefests |
| 19:59.00 | Amarande | hmm. I really hope the warlock book in 5.2 drops in the world and not just dungeons |
| 19:59.19 | Mr_Rabies | i've really either got really bad luck or my battlegroup sucks |
| 19:59.21 | Amarande | noticed it's auctionable. got shades of battered hilts. :( |
| 19:59.23 | g0urra | u mad fisker? http://i.imgur.com/NKnDLNe.jpg |
| 19:59.34 | Mr_Rabies | i don't even run lfr anymore because it's not worth the repair bill |
| 19:59.45 | Amarande | Mr_Rabies: wow, which battlegroup? |
| 19:59.52 | Amarande | usually getting gold even once covers a death or two |
| 19:59.56 | Mr_Rabies | dropping 200-300g every time we do galaron isn't fun |
| 19:59.58 | nevcairiel | not that i would mind some guys to run stuff with, its usually at least a bit more fun then pure lfd, but the content stays the same boring shit |
| 20:00.09 | Amarande | btw, they're supposed to be addressing that fact in 5.2, though |
| 20:00.19 | Amarande | like, some sort of stacking buff for every time you wipe on the same boss in LFR |
| 20:00.26 | Mr_Rabies | it's also really stressful in general |
| 20:00.29 | nevcairiel | i mostly dont play anymore because i have no guild matching my preferred style =p |
| 20:00.38 | nevcairiel | lfr is horrible |
| 20:00.40 | Mr_Rabies | people that either are TERRIBLE at the game or are griefers |
| 20:00.41 | nevcairiel | and pugs are as well |
| 20:00.49 | Mr_Rabies | in every run |
| 20:00.55 | Amarande | lfr on my battlegroup hasn't been all that bad, either |
| 20:00.55 | Mr_Rabies | i don't know the name of it anymore, amarande |
| 20:01.10 | Amarande | except for one thing, but that thing doesn't have anything to do with the skill of the players, sadly :( |
| 20:01.11 | Mr_Rabies | but it's got all the brazilian and latin american realms in it now |
| 20:01.18 | Mr_Rabies | and that's really dragging it down a lot :| |
| 20:01.28 | Amarande | ah, I'm on Ysera, so ... Stormstrike, I believe |
| 20:01.41 | Mr_Rabies | i'm on llane |
| 20:02.01 | nevcairiel | its kinda useful to be on a german realm, we only get german realms in the battlegroup, i hear the italians are the worst, and the english get grouped with them all the time =p |
| 20:02.22 | Mr_Rabies | vindication |
| 20:02.38 | Mr_Rabies | so we wind up with a group that can't understand each other |
| 20:02.58 | Mr_Rabies | and my guess is mostly just kids play mmos in brazil and/or latin america or something |
| 20:03.01 | Amarande | from what I'm seeing, Vindication, Vengeance, and Bloodlust are probably the worst battlegroups to end up in |
| 20:03.29 | Mr_Rabies | because they seem to have a much higher population of people with very little skill |
| 20:03.37 | Amarande | not from personal experience, but just a cursory look at the battlegroup list |
| 20:03.43 | Mr_Rabies | maybe the good players do preforms so they don't have to group up with people that don't know their language |
| 20:03.45 | Amarande | Vindication = language barriers |
| 20:04.01 | Amarande | Vengeance and Bloodlust have all the Oceanic servers between them OTOH, which means half of your raid will probably be laggy as all get out |
| 20:08.08 | haste | Fisker: y |
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| 20:56.18 | karl_w_w | http://angsarap.files.wordpress.com/2012/12/white-chocolate-and-macadamia-cheesecake-with-caramel-sauce.jpg |
| 20:56.26 | karl_w_w | drools everywheres |
| 20:58.29 | Thunder_Child | I agree karl_w_w |
| 21:10.33 | Amarande | karl, you linked a drooly cheesecake and not the recipe |
| 21:10.41 | Amarande | your alignment has shifted 50 point(s) towards Evil |
| 21:11.30 | Amarande | you will be sentenced to eternity on a wow server where all the good names are taken by unplayed level 55 death knights and you have to name everyone things that sound like H. P. Lovecraft horrors as a result |
| 21:11.38 | Amarande | :) |
| 21:12.16 | karl_w_w | harhar |
| 21:12.18 | Fisker | so old g0urra |
| 21:12.26 | Fisker | only the 143th time i've seen that today |
| 21:12.32 | karl_w_w | so new Fisker |
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| 21:40.57 | Amarande | hm. just occurred to me that depending on how LiitA turns out this year, that openraid thing for 5-mans might actually be important. :| |
| 21:41.42 | Amarande | problem, you need that bouquet of roses. if they're in panda dungeons now, fine |
| 21:41.59 | Amarande | but if they're in Cata dungeons, I'm not sure how well those solo yet :| |
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| 21:46.52 | karl_w_w | im sure they will be in both |
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| 21:58.52 | smcn | i'm positive holiday stuff is baked into the dungeon development process |
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