| 00:15.06 | TC-work | I have played with wow muted after about one year of playing |
| 00:16.11 | TC-work | Of course it does mean i don't have the same nostalgia for wow sounds like i do for EQ spell-casting ones. |
| 00:17.54 | Primer | I just have music turned off, as I still rely on audio queues from the game |
| 00:18.18 | TC-work | Really? Is there any audio queue that is not replicated visually? |
| 00:19.01 | Primer | How about the sound of a rogue stealthing? |
| 00:19.49 | TC-work | Well, I don't play on a pvp server, and in pvp i keep an eye out for that |
| 00:20.03 | Primer | I do, as I wouldn't have it any other way |
| 00:20.04 | TC-work | I also have camera distance maxed out |
| 00:20.24 | Primer | Not saying I gank, but I'm never out in the world NOT wearing my pvp set |
| 00:21.13 | Primer | I do enjoy world pvp though |
| 00:21.19 | Primer | but I usually never start it |
| 00:21.33 | Primer | I usually finish it though :) |
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| 00:50.59 | VIad | Primer: you enjoy world pvp? where can I gank you? xD |
| 00:54.51 | Primer | You can't |
| 00:54.55 | Primer | as I'd kill you |
| 00:55.07 | Semlar | who can say |
| 00:55.07 | TC-work | Well, that's what you think anyway |
| 00:55.19 | VIad | :3 |
| 00:55.26 | VIad | challenge accepted |
| 00:55.47 | Primer | What class would you come as? |
| 00:55.58 | VIad | druid feral/guardian |
| 00:56.05 | Primer | I could go as SP or feral druid, each with the weapons |
| 00:56.14 | Semlar | feral fight |
| 00:56.26 | TC-work | Could be worse, could be a resto fight |
| 00:56.27 | Primer | I've yet to run into a feral that can take my SP |
| 00:56.28 | Semlar | time to determine who's top cat |
| 00:56.49 | VIad | my options are mage, paladin and hunter too |
| 00:56.53 | VIad | :3 |
| 00:57.01 | Semlar | no you guys have to play as the same class |
| 00:57.04 | Semlar | it's the only way |
| 00:57.13 | VIad | holy pala, or resto druid duel |
| 00:57.15 | VIad | pliz |
| 00:57.26 | Primer | yeah, that'd be fun, sure |
| 00:57.30 | VIad | phun |
| 00:57.41 | VIad | first to disconnect looses |
| 00:57.50 | Semlar | are you guys even on the same continent |
| 00:57.54 | Primer | nope |
| 00:57.55 | VIad | nope |
| 00:58.10 | Semlar | that's going to make this difficult |
| 00:58.13 | Primer | I admit, I don't pvp too well on my feral |
| 00:58.49 | Semlar | i have experience losing thousands of arena matches as feral |
| 00:58.49 | VIad | I pvped awesomely pre mop |
| 00:58.54 | Semlar | you don't stand a chance |
| 00:59.09 | VIad | but with mop they split up feral into two, and now I feel split :( |
| 00:59.15 | VIad | I miss being awesome in both forms |
| 00:59.29 | VIad | because if you could manage it, you were awesome :D |
| 00:59.49 | Amarande | yeah, druids became kind of a special case with mop's spec system :p |
| 01:00.02 | Amarande | seeing as feral was the one dual purpose talent tree in the game as of cata |
| 01:00.06 | VIad | just saying, my awesome pvp skills got lost with the new system :< made me sad |
| 01:00.34 | Amarande | Probably a good thing they set in stone the role of each tree in Cata, or it wouldn't have been the only one (blood DK was also, at birth, a tree with both DPS and tank specs) |
| 01:00.53 | Semlar | and healing |
| 01:01.02 | Semlar | let's not forget healing |
| 01:01.19 | Amarande | DKs healed? |
| 01:01.26 | Semlar | sure |
| 01:01.27 | VIad | yes |
| 01:01.39 | Semlar | well, they were a bit selfish about it |
| 01:01.59 | VIad | remember wotlk beta shaman totem? |
| 01:02.15 | VIad | wait, wasn't a totem, was a spell :P |
| 01:02.16 | VIad | the one that normalized the health of everyone linked |
| 01:02.32 | VIad | you cast on target, 2 nearby targets link with the main target and hp is normalized |
| 01:02.40 | Primer | I only started pvping on my druid during mop |
| 01:02.40 | VIad | then you cast chain heal and heal all at once :D |
| 01:02.45 | VIad | was awesome dmg mitigation |
| 01:02.56 | VIad | but obviously too OP in 5v5 arena if you don't got a shaman xD |
| 01:04.39 | VIad | no one remembers? aww.... |
| 01:04.48 | VIad | was great days to be a resto shaman back in wotlk beta |
| 01:06.31 | VIad | buu for the lack of shaman love |
| 01:09.25 | VIad | you made me sad - going to bed now :( crying |
| 01:10.08 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
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| 01:36.26 | Shirik | Cairenn: http://i.imgur.com/8WchcLr.jpg |
| 01:36.36 | Cairenn | awwww |
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| 02:05.51 | TC-work | Shirik: That does not look like a regulation pigskin |
| 02:06.57 | Amarande | Wow, priests are powerful solo now |
| 02:07.07 | Amarande | why weren't they this awesome back in BC when I first tried one? |
| 02:07.21 | TC-work | http://kotaku.com/5981357/man-explains-why-he-slept-with-wow-guild-members |
| 02:12.35 | Kaylin1 | because he wanted to? |
| 02:13.05 | Dagmar | They call that a "smear" |
| 02:13.11 | Dagmar | Puh-lease. |
| 02:13.25 | Dagmar | I suspect they may be jealous that someone might have gotten laid. |
| 02:14.59 | Dagmar | I mean it's a bit of a shallow reason to change guilds, but there are some things more important than gaming |
| 02:20.30 | Kaylin1 | idk it sounds like a balls deep reason to change guilds. |
| 02:20.34 | Kaylin1 | is afk. |
| 02:21.36 | TC-work | ~lart Kaylin1 |
| 02:21.36 | purl | takes out a cattle prod and gives Kaylin1 a good jolt |
| 02:31.01 | Amarande | oy, names that I might scream if I see any more characters with: |
| 02:31.10 | Amarande | Any Pandaren monks with names of some variation of "Pandamonkium" |
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| 03:55.24 | Arrowmaster | haha http://www.reddit.com/r/funny/comments/17w3ns/i_do_it_for_a_school_district_ive_just_committed/ |
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| 03:59.19 | Motig | urgh just found out my frame had a typo in UIParent so now the sizes aren't what I thought they were the whole time |
| 04:01.18 | Semlar | ^_^ |
| 04:11.03 | Motig | I guess I could just use setscale to fix it |
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| 04:21.47 | Motig | bit of a bummer though :p |
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| 04:44.44 | kd3 | ahaha; http://i.imgur.com/UwD66nO.jpg |
| 04:50.28 | karl_w_w | ! |
| 04:53.27 | nebula169 | someone spent way too much try blurring out shit |
| 04:53.33 | nebula169 | s/try/time/ |
| 04:53.44 | Amarande | how many minecraft folders are there there? :S |
| 04:56.41 | nebula169 | oh, it was student folders, i see the reason for it now |
| 05:04.33 | Semlar | that and it takes like 2 seconds to censor an image |
| 05:04.59 | Semlar | not a real big time sink |
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| 05:25.00 | kd3 | grr |
| 05:25.09 | kd3 | I need a new chair and now it looks like I need another monitor |
| 05:28.45 | kd3 | it's horrible being used to 3840x1080 and having to go back to one monitor |
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| 06:21.41 | Semlar | neffi, i've identified two different heightmaps |
| 06:22.00 | Neffi | too busy to work on anything right now |
| 06:22.29 | Semlar | there's a really detailed one and a more general one |
| 06:23.02 | Neffi | i'd use the general one |
| 06:23.12 | Neffi | just looking to roughly map mountains and shit |
| 06:23.26 | Semlar | i think the general one might be used for pathing by npcs |
| 06:23.41 | Semlar | and the detailed one is for the player |
| 06:24.12 | Semlar | of course that's not really based on much |
| 06:26.34 | Semlar | i was going to try and export it and match it up with the map in game |
| 06:28.33 | Neffi | I might get around to doing it eventually |
| 06:30.27 | Semlar | i think each number in the rough heightmap represents about 16 square yards |
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| 07:01.17 | Corv | That actually sounds pretty handy. You could combine that with node locations for improved paths in a Routes-type addon. |
| 07:01.36 | Corv | Rather than the typically derpy "short path is through a mountain" we get these days. |
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| 07:38.11 | Shirik | Thunder_Child: http://i.imgur.com/UChT5ou.jpg |
| 07:38.45 | Thunder_Child | ~lart Shirik |
| 07:38.45 | purl | runs at Shirik with an origami Swiss Army knife, and inflicts a nasty paper cut |
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| 08:44.44 | karl_w_w | harsh purl, harsh |
| 09:13.01 | karl_w_w | ~ping |
| 09:13.02 | purl | ~pong |
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| 09:38.16 | zenzelezz | the new Youtube channel page... why, Youtube, WHY? https://www.youtube.com/user/sortedfood |
| 09:38.23 | zenzelezz | I guess someone had to bring back Geocities |
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| 09:41.10 | Xuerian | People who use youtube like some of my friends use imgur confuse me. |
| 09:41.14 | Xuerian | Why would you browse the site? |
| 09:41.37 | Xuerian | I mean, everybody clicks a few related links now and then, but beyond that... 0_o |
| 09:45.04 | zenzelezz | if I see a video I particularly like, I tend to visit the user's channel page to see what else they've done |
| 09:45.16 | zenzelezz | but yes, it's not exactly what I do most frequently |
| 09:45.35 | zenzelezz | just wish Youtube would stop messing up the layout of their site all the time |
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| 09:49.08 | Semlar | http://i.imgur.com/41LKznC.jpg whoops |
| 09:49.42 | VIad | looks chaotic |
| 09:50.01 | Semlar | i don't think my new clustering algorithm works |
| 09:50.02 | zenzelezz | Semlar: o_O |
| 09:58.08 | VIad | semlar fun thing |
| 09:58.24 | VIad | I have a background in css on the html page, and text in the container. |
| 09:58.42 | VIad | if I apply the IE filter css syntax to apply a glow to the font for IE, the glow appears behind the background image :P |
| 09:59.32 | VIad | the text is wrapped in a hyperlink so it's not directly in the container with the background either :P funny |
| 10:00.08 | Semlar | maybe the z index of the glow is messed up |
| 10:07.27 | VIad | Semlar: embrace the powerful tacos |
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| 10:22.23 | karl_w_w | http://www.darklegacycomics.com/375.html so much truthiness |
| 10:24.45 | tharper | man, is the reason no one uses nynorsk because 90% of the music in those dialects is so bad >< |
| 10:24.52 | tharper | or is that just all norwegian music =p |
| 10:25.04 | zenzelezz | 99% of Norwegian music is bad |
| 10:25.10 | tharper | hah |
| 10:25.16 | tharper | I like Odd Nordstoga |
| 10:25.23 | tharper | and a bit of Sirkus Eliassen |
| 10:25.30 | zenzelezz | nynorsk is a bit unpopular because it's not a majority language, and people don't like having to learn something they won't use |
| 10:25.44 | tharper | lol |
| 10:26.03 | zenzelezz | that's the truth btw |
| 10:26.09 | tharper | even though people hear dialects that resemble nynorsk in some way all the time? |
| 10:26.18 | zenzelezz | yes |
| 10:26.29 | tharper | shrugs. |
| 10:26.29 | zenzelezz | we have like 3000 billion dialects in Norway |
| 10:26.32 | tharper | I know =D |
| 10:26.36 | tharper | It's awesome |
| 10:26.47 | tharper | Except for Bergenska |
| 10:26.56 | tharper | sorry Bergensk |
| 10:27.01 | zenzelezz | apart from very old, archaic dialects, we generally understand each other fine whether we speak bokmål or nynorsk |
| 10:27.17 | zenzelezz | and the odd local words |
| 10:32.57 | zenzelezz | so I've recently watched the first five episodes of the original Star Trek... from what I gather so far, every episode is about the crew being infected by some unknown virus |
| 10:37.55 | Semlar | make it so |
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| 11:40.02 | tharper | zenzelezz: have you heard this before :D http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYWZklfnMSU |
| 11:44.09 | zenzelezz | hm, nope; listening now... Kalvø is generally pretty funny |
| 11:45.06 | tharper | heheh he is also a legit nynorsk advocate, though |
| 11:45.29 | zenzelezz | nothing wrong about that |
| 11:45.45 | zenzelezz | the language itself is fine, it's just being forced to learn it that gives a bad taste |
| 11:46.02 | Humbedooh | bah, nynorsk |
| 11:46.04 | Humbedooh | baaah! |
| 11:46.06 | tharper | even as a sidemål you object? |
| 11:46.15 | Humbedooh | objection!! |
| 11:46.19 | tharper | lol |
| 11:46.30 | Humbedooh | I demand a mistrial! :C |
| 11:46.30 | tharper | You're just made because some people in Norway don't want to write Danish anymore = |
| 11:46.31 | tharper | [ |
| 11:46.36 | tharper | =p |
| 11:46.36 | Humbedooh | pfft |
| 11:46.40 | Humbedooh | bokmål is fine! |
| 11:46.41 | tharper | Humbedooh: we starting watching Borgen, btw |
| 11:46.47 | Humbedooh | yeah, I saw :) |
| 11:46.49 | Humbedooh | or read |
| 11:46.53 | tharper | oh yesh |
| 11:46.55 | tharper | heh |
| 11:47.07 | Humbedooh | I'm getting new glasses :| gone up from 1/1.25 to 2.5/2.75 ;( |
| 11:47.14 | tharper | lol you still aren't as blind as jnwhiteh |
| 11:47.25 | Humbedooh | give it time! :( |
| 11:47.32 | tharper | how old are you, though? |
| 11:47.44 | Humbedooh | 30 on march 1st |
| 11:47.48 | Humbedooh | so I'm ooold ;( |
| 11:47.54 | tharper | lol no |
| 11:48.06 | Kalroth | granpa humb |
| 11:48.23 | tharper | woah there, I'm only 2 yeras younger than him, you young whippersnapper |
| 11:48.41 | zenzelezz | tharper: brilliant clip :) |
| 11:48.58 | tharper | :D |
| 11:49.03 | tharper | I LOVE his dialect |
| 11:49.06 | tharper | it is my favourite in Norway |
| 11:49.20 | tharper | I have a friend who comes from the same place |
| 11:49.28 | zenzelezz | so the "suggested videos" at the end... 11 about nynorsk, 1 about... "WOrlds Best Killcam + Reaction?" |
| 11:49.32 | tharper | haha |
| 11:49.32 | tharper | yeah |
| 11:49.34 | tharper | I can't even |
| 11:49.38 | zenzelezz | I know many don't like nynorsk, but killcams seem over the top |
| 11:49.41 | tharper | haha |
| 11:50.11 | tharper | the west norwegian dialects are also easier for me to understand unless they use words I am not used to |
| 11:50.27 | tharper | their spåkmelodi is more similar to Swedish |
| 11:51.08 | zenzelezz | I find that interesting |
| 11:51.29 | tharper | hehe both rikssvenska and vestnorsk usually are so called high pitch dialects |
| 11:51.49 | tharper | most of eastern norway has low pitch dialects |
| 11:51.50 | Kalroth | jävle svenskere! |
| 11:52.17 | tharper | there are variations, though, värmland for example has eastern norwegian pitch |
| 11:52.34 | tharper | but for me that is the hardest thing right now to get through ishearing pitch accents I am not used to |
| 11:52.39 | tharper | like, I can'tunderstand other Americans speaking Swedish |
| 11:52.52 | tharper | I mean, I can, but it's really hard, heh |
| 11:53.03 | Maldivia | *smirk* |
| 11:53.32 | tharper | not like tyring to understand a DANE, though |
| 11:53.44 | haste | I have to work with a dane on thursday :( |
| 11:53.44 | Kalroth | danish is the mother language |
| 11:53.49 | tharper | I'm sorry, let me mop up the few consonants you apparently vomited on the floor |
| 11:53.56 | Kalroth | you swedes and fjeldaber molested it |
| 11:54.00 | tharper | ha |
| 11:54.05 | haste | no, we improved it |
| 11:54.07 | haste | by a lot |
| 11:54.08 | Maldivia | tharper: vomited... naah, we just dropped them, no need to pronounce them :) |
| 11:54.17 | Kalroth | no, you put two potatos in your mouth and then try to speak it |
| 11:54.17 | tharper | I disagree, that "d" of yours |
| 11:54.34 | tharper | I find it hilarious on Borgen when they are making speechs |
| 11:54.36 | tharper | and "enunciating" |
| 11:54.41 | tharper | and I'm like lolz it's still fucked up |
| 11:55.06 | Maldivia | psh |
| 11:55.32 | tharper | also Danish is the least conservative of the Scandinavian languages =p |
| 11:55.52 | Kalroth | at least we dont call our computers for datormaskinor |
| 11:55.54 | tharper | but randomly you have barn -> børn |
| 11:56.03 | tharper | which is a super Old Norse feature |
| 11:56.03 | Kalroth | barn = singular, børn = plural |
| 11:56.06 | Kalroth | not random! |
| 11:56.09 | tharper | haha |
| 11:56.27 | tharper | yes, it is random because it was not a popular feature of East Norse |
| 11:56.34 | tharper | and was mostly erased from Swedish/Danish |
| 11:56.38 | tharper | but Danish has it in that one word =p |
| 11:56.43 | Humbedooh | tharper: there's actually some professor somewhere who made a formula for that stuff |
| 11:56.51 | Kalroth | mand -> mænd |
| 11:56.58 | Kalroth | bonde -> bønder |
| 11:56.58 | Humbedooh | which made sense when I read it, but I forget where it is |
| 11:57.03 | Humbedooh | bog - > bøger |
| 11:57.04 | tharper | different vowel shift, Kalroth |
| 11:57.14 | tharper | that is i-umlaut, which is a feature of all germanic langauges |
| 11:57.20 | tharper | barn -> børn is specific to Old Norse |
| 11:57.29 | tharper | and mostlyWestern dialects and their descendents |
| 11:57.34 | Humbedooh | and bøg is a tree, not a tharper! |
| 11:57.36 | Kalroth | bærn would sound silly! |
| 11:57.46 | tharper | if you applied the rule regularly |
| 11:57.47 | tharper | you sould have |
| 11:57.50 | tharper | fjall fjøll |
| 11:58.05 | Humbedooh | fjall? :( |
| 11:58.07 | Kalroth | fjall isn't a danish word |
| 11:58.11 | tharper | oh fuck, what do you people call mountains |
| 11:58.15 | Humbedooh | fjeld |
| 11:58.22 | tharper | aha |
| 11:58.24 | Kalroth | bjerge |
| 11:58.55 | Humbedooh | fjølls tharper |
| 11:59.07 | tharper | but Swedish also has bok/böcker, bonde/bönder |
| 11:59.37 | tharper | as does norwegin |
| 11:59.43 | tharper | bok bøker |
| 12:00.22 | tharper | we have that same vowel shift in English, not in book but in mouse/mice, goose/geese, foot/feet (fot,fötter) |
| 12:00.44 | tharper | but not one else besides you guys, ICelandic, and Faroese have barn/børn anymore :D |
| 12:01.07 | tharper | I guess some norwegian dialects have barn/born |
| 12:01.27 | Humbedooh | how will they survive in ten to twenty years then, without any children? ;o |
| 12:01.33 | tharper | haha |
| 12:01.36 | Humbedooh | it's a cat-astrophy! |
| 12:02.38 | Maldivia | tharper: shouldn't you consider working for some language institute or something ? |
| 12:02.47 | tharper | Maldivia: I'm a wannabe =p |
| 12:02.50 | haste | tharper: think we only have barn, even in dialects |
| 12:02.59 | tharper | haste: nynorskordboka disagrees, heh |
| 12:03.04 | tharper | it allows born in the plural |
| 12:03.06 | Maldivia | tharper: still - you'd be able t o combine work with hobby |
| 12:03.06 | haste | oh shi- |
| 12:03.20 | tharper | I bet they say it in Bergen or something |
| 12:03.26 | haste | doubt it :P |
| 12:03.29 | tharper | somewhere with a lot of Danish influence |
| 12:03.41 | tharper | or some REALLY archaic dialect |
| 12:03.47 | tharper | maybe somehwere in Sogn og Fjordane |
| 12:04.11 | Maldivia | I like how you weaseled in that insult to the danish language :) |
| 12:04.26 | tharper | haha Maldivia, there I meant it was probably from Danish influence |
| 12:04.26 | tharper | hehe |
| 12:04.27 | haste | :3 |
| 12:04.31 | tharper | I actually think Danish is cute, like a pug dog |
| 12:04.43 | Humbedooh | pugs are good |
| 12:04.50 | tharper | not exactly a statuesque beast, but you can't help but love it |
| 12:05.09 | tharper | though your spelling leaves someting to be desired |
| 12:05.18 | zenzelezz | supposedly the dialect from where I'm from is supposed to be close-ish to Danish, though I don't really think so myself |
| 12:05.50 | tharper | Maldivia: I couldn't do anything for a language institute, btw. I just know things and speak a few languags poorly =p |
| 12:06.04 | tharper | zenzelezz: well, you would think of it in terms of the differences instead of the similarities, being on the inside |
| 12:07.11 | Maldivia | tharper: they might have a software department - speach recognition or something like that :) |
| 12:07.16 | tharper | hehe |
| 12:07.18 | tharper | maybe some day |
| 12:07.25 | tharper | I might go back to school to become an interpreter one day |
| 12:07.39 | tharper | They desperately need both English and Swedish speakers |
| 12:07.47 | tharper | I'd need EU citizenship to make any decent money at it, though |
| 12:08.00 | Humbedooh | darn citizenship :\ |
| 12:08.10 | tharper | lol yes |
| 12:08.21 | Humbedooh | there should be an express lane for people who are committed to integrating into a society! |
| 12:08.35 | tharper | It's called "marriage" |
| 12:08.45 | Humbedooh | marry me! |
| 12:08.47 | Humbedooh | :D |
| 12:08.48 | tharper | haha |
| 12:08.52 | tharper | you'd have to live in Sweden |
| 12:08.54 | tharper | you ready for that? |
| 12:08.59 | Humbedooh | no ;( |
| 12:09.03 | Maldivia | tharper: I actually worked on a project for the Danish language instutute (think it was them), helping them make a digital pronounciation trainer, that would help immigrants pronounce Danish better, by using a speech recognition engine to compare what they said to what it was supposed to sound like |
| 12:09.03 | tharper | yeah didn't think so |
| 12:09.06 | Humbedooh | lived there once, that was enough |
| 12:09.18 | tharper | Maldivia: that sounds awesome |
| 12:09.25 | zenzelezz | it would help if Danes could pronounce Danish in the first place |
| 12:09.26 | zenzelezz | ;-o |
| 12:09.30 | Humbedooh | ;O |
| 12:10.12 | Maldivia | tharper: unfortunately, the leader of the project was a giant idiot, so in the end it kind of fell apart |
| 12:10.32 | tharper | The fate of far too many projects |
| 12:10.53 | tharper | Danish: Why use a stop or a fricative where an approximant would work. |
| 12:11.12 | tharper | Also: phonetic spelling is for sissies |
| 12:11.17 | Humbedooh | ye! |
| 12:11.25 | Humbedooh | or for Finns |
| 12:11.29 | tharper | lol |
| 12:11.58 | Humbedooh | jäätelötötterön is my favorit Finnish word |
| 12:12.01 | tharper | honestly I marvel at hearing Danish fluently spoken...by anyone. It's like a party trick. |
| 12:12.02 | Maldivia | tharper: oh, heh - actually found the project description for it: http://troels.myram.dk/index.php?page=digital_udtaletraener (in Danish though) |
| 12:12.12 | tharper | reads Danish. |
| 12:12.27 | tharper | lol ice cream cone? |
| 12:12.31 | Humbedooh | ye! |
| 12:12.47 | tharper | the -n is the accusative btw |
| 12:13.06 | Humbedooh | don't you accusative me of stuff! |
| 12:13.10 | tharper | lol |
| 12:13.23 | Humbedooh | has nightmares about German grammar |
| 12:13.42 | Humbedooh | accusative, dative, nominative....brrrrrr |
| 12:14.01 | Humbedooh | Ordnung muss sein!! |
| 12:14.33 | Maldivia | durch, für, gegen, ohne, wieder, um |
| 12:14.45 | Humbedooh | I was in Germany in November...and had lost my medication, so I had to go to a hospital and four other doctors...all i German :| |
| 12:14.58 | Humbedooh | neben, unter, zwischen! |
| 12:15.15 | Humbedooh | all in* |
| 12:15.42 | Maldivia | not to forget the added "kennst du nicht deinem accusative dann bist du wirklich dumm" |
| 12:15.55 | Humbedooh | yeah :\ |
| 12:16.06 | Humbedooh | and the dreaded pearly gates grammar book :( |
| 12:16.27 | Humbedooh | "let's have an entire week of German grammar! yay!" |
| 12:16.31 | Maldivia | but it's been way way too long since I've written any German, so no idea how the grammar and spelling is in the above :P |
| 12:16.55 | Humbedooh | likewise - I understand German, but I have very knowledge in actually speaking it |
| 12:17.15 | Humbedooh | apart from the basics such as "Ein Bier, bitte" |
| 12:17.30 | Humbedooh | and not öl, 'cause that's oil :( |
| 12:17.49 | Maldivia | well, it might go down easier... |
| 12:19.33 | tharper | what is ale, then? |
| 12:20.05 | tharper | (in German) |
| 12:20.20 | Humbedooh | ale is ale |
| 12:20.33 | Humbedooh | ale is also ale in Danish :3 |
| 12:20.39 | tharper | lol |
| 12:20.52 | Humbedooh | we don't really have the distinction between ale and lager |
| 12:21.07 | Maldivia | well, it would be Ale in German, since they still practice capitalizing nouns |
| 12:21.12 | Humbedooh | yes yes :p |
| 12:21.17 | tharper | oh gross, "ale" is "ale" in swedish, pronounced "ejl" |
| 12:21.19 | tharper | I am disappoint |
| 12:21.41 | Humbedooh | we didn't have ale in Scandinavia, we has Pilsner |
| 12:21.44 | Humbedooh | had* |
| 12:21.50 | Maldivia | still do |
| 12:21.55 | Humbedooh | or just beer |
| 12:22.04 | Humbedooh | or mjød! |
| 12:22.06 | Humbedooh | mmm |
| 12:22.07 | Maldivia | Mjød! |
| 12:22.15 | tharper | Mjöd...nomnomnom |
| 12:22.23 | Humbedooh | or mumme |
| 12:22.48 | Maldivia | I like the Swedish pronounciation of Mjöd a lot better than the Danish mjød |
| 12:22.50 | Humbedooh | hmm, I wonder what that's called in English |
| 12:22.56 | Maldivia | meed |
| 12:22.59 | Maldivia | mead |
| 12:22.59 | Humbedooh | not Mead, but Mumme |
| 12:23.02 | tharper | mead |
| 12:23.37 | tharper | hrm, cannot find mjød on forvo |
| 12:23.58 | tharper | oh its [mjøð] |
| 12:24.04 | tharper | that is...shockingly civilised |
| 12:24.24 | Humbedooh | hm, apparently Mumme is called Mumme in English as well |
| 12:24.36 | tharper | I have never heard of that |
| 12:24.41 | tharper | it's probably a loanword as a result =p |
| 12:24.58 | Maldivia | tharper: if it was the Danish pronounciation you were after: http://ordnet.dk/ddo/ordbog?query=mj%C3%B8d&tab=for -- has audio as well |
| 12:25.25 | tharper | lol they don't transcribe the stød |
| 12:26.25 | tharper | oh they do |
| 12:26.29 | Humbedooh | hmm [ˈmomə] |
| 12:26.30 | tharper | mjød doesn't have it |
| 12:26.32 | tharper | wird |
| 12:27.19 | Humbedooh | speaking of Mumme, which is from Brunsvig (Braunschweig)...have you tried a Brunsviger, tharper? :D |
| 12:27.24 | tharper | nope |
| 12:27.24 | Humbedooh | or Braunschweiger |
| 12:27.27 | tharper | what is it? |
| 12:27.35 | Humbedooh | it's a Danish of sort |
| 12:27.55 | Humbedooh | not to be confused with the German sausage |
| 12:27.59 | tharper | heh |
| 12:28.01 | Maldivia | mmm.... brunsviger.... |
| 12:28.16 | Kalroth | mmmmm brunsviger med flødeskum |
| 12:28.20 | Humbedooh | http://www.opskriftsamlingen.dk/image/products/20121015-507beda49ff4a_5827264.jpg |
| 12:28.31 | Maldivia | basically just white bread with melted butter and brown sugar on top :P |
| 12:28.32 | Humbedooh | if you don't like sweets, it's not for you |
| 12:28.51 | Kalroth | brunsviger med haribo |
| 12:28.55 | Humbedooh | hahaha |
| 12:29.02 | Kalroth | kagemand!! |
| 12:29.14 | Maldivia | ok, now I'm seriously considering going the 100m to the nearest baker and buy some :P |
| 12:29.18 | Kalroth | haha |
| 12:29.23 | Maldivia | damn you all |
| 12:29.32 | Humbedooh | or as my jehova's witness brother makes it; Kagekors! |
| 12:29.34 | Maldivia | (that's the perk of living on Fyn, you can actually get brunsviger!) |
| 12:29.56 | Humbedooh | sometimes they make a kagejesus ;( |
| 12:30.12 | tharper | Fyn = where Odense is? |
| 12:30.29 | Humbedooh | ye |
| 12:30.31 | Humbedooh | Odense is the "capital" of Fyn |
| 12:30.39 | Kalroth | flad ud der kommer en jetjager |
| 12:32.32 | Humbedooh | tharper: you've moved to Scandinavia ffs...there is no such thing as too much coffee here |
| 12:32.41 | Maldivia | Humbedooh: btw, that's a bad brunsviger image - way too stiff sugar on top |
| 12:32.42 | Kalroth | mmmmmm, coffee |
| 12:32.47 | Kalroth | im only on my 7th cup today |
| 12:32.49 | Kalroth | need a little more |
| 12:32.57 | Humbedooh | Maldivia: yeah but the other images I found had terrible lighting :\ |
| 12:33.08 | Maldivia | http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-P5w_W6awCEc/T90aH3m-cwI/AAAAAAAAAQo/MZZg7fe48R4/s1600/skagen+2012+083.JPG -- looks better :) |
| 12:34.54 | tharper | look yummy |
| 12:35.00 | tharper | yeah I am still on my first pot of coffee =p |
| 12:35.03 | tharper | I have been good today |
| 12:35.16 | Humbedooh | I usually lose count after the first four cups |
| 12:36.41 | tharper | btw, Danes |
| 12:36.42 | tharper | http://www.reddit.com/r/sweden/comments/17s9fg/not_even_on_this_do_we_agree_and_people_think_its/ |
| 12:37.23 | Humbedooh | hahaha |
| 12:37.30 | Maldivia | :) |
| 12:37.35 | Humbedooh | pålægschokolade ftw! |
| 12:38.15 | Humbedooh | and yes, we don't have any cheese planers :( |
| 12:38.24 | tharper | brilliant: "Cykel är det huvudsakliga transportmedlet i hela danmark, detta pga den totala avsaknaden av uppförsbackar. Ett lämpligt första steg i en invasion vore att strypa cykelimporten, cykelransoneringen som följer skulle ha förödande effekter på infrastruktur men även befolkningens stridsvärde och moral då en dansk faller i djup depression om han/hon inte tillåts äga fler än fem cyklar." |
| 12:39.48 | Maldivia | hey... I only have 2 bikes |
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| 12:40.02 | Humbedooh | I've had 4 bikes in the last year :\ |
| 12:40.11 | Kalroth | i had 3, but 2 got stolen |
| 12:40.13 | Humbedooh | 3 got stolen, including my sweet Specialized racing bike :( |
| 12:40.18 | Kalroth | now im in deep depression! |
| 12:41.04 | tharper | quick, go out and produce some Scandinavian Noir films |
| 12:41.19 | Humbedooh | ugh |
| 12:41.36 | tharper | my Swedish friend REFUSES to watch any scandi film noir tv series |
| 12:41.53 | tharper | but he strongly dislikes Scandinavia |
| 12:42.14 | Humbedooh | that's quite common in Scandinavia ;) |
| 12:42.26 | Maldivia | tharper: so no Edderkoppen? |
| 12:42.33 | Humbedooh | Edderkoppen was awesome! |
| 12:43.02 | Humbedooh | and it featured a villain who's a real prick and a villain in real life too :D |
| 12:43.16 | Humbedooh | bye bye Gladsaxe Teater! |
| 12:43.58 | Humbedooh | (no that didn't spoil anything, no one cares about that theater) |
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| 12:44.59 | Humbedooh | a Finn! |
| 12:45.00 | Humbedooh | yay |
| 12:45.20 | Humbedooh | a flashy finn even |
| 12:46.56 | Adys | Semlar: new version of mpqeditor is out |
| 12:50.06 | Kalroth | tharper: i hate scandinavian movies too |
| 12:50.18 | Kalroth | especially swedish and norwegian, but also danish |
| 12:59.31 | Humbedooh | whoa, someone tried to kill Lars Hedegaard |
| 13:00.40 | Humbedooh | puts his money on that hizbut tahrir group or however it's spelled |
| 13:11.25 | tharper | ... |
| 13:11.26 | tharper | why? |
| 13:11.36 | tharper | ahh |
| 13:11.37 | tharper | him |
| 13:12.19 | Humbedooh | yeah, a columnist who's not foo fond of the way Islam is practiced in many countries |
| 13:12.30 | tharper | I dunno what it is about denmark. They restricted immigration as much as possible but there seems to be more extremism than in Swedne |
| 13:13.07 | Humbedooh | you haven't been to Malmö obviously ;) |
| 13:13.13 | tharper | I have once |
| 13:13.14 | tharper | but |
| 13:13.34 | Humbedooh | there's less extremism in Stockholm and thereabouts yes, because none of the extremists want to move all the way up north |
| 13:13.41 | tharper | I dunno, maybe it is just more covered in Denmark |
| 13:13.42 | Humbedooh | too cold or whatever |
| 13:13.56 | tharper | butyou hear more about extremist acts coming out of Denmark |
| 13:13.56 | Humbedooh | it's a but suppressed in Sweden I'd say :\ |
| 13:14.02 | Humbedooh | bit* |
| 13:14.19 | tharper | Yeah I have no idea. There is seriously nothing lke that in Stockholm that I have noticed |
| 13:14.37 | tharper | I am sure if I went to Södertälje I'd see more diveresity ethnically |
| 13:14.41 | Humbedooh | you don't see it in Finland or Norway in the same way either, 'cause that's also too cold ;) |
| 13:14.43 | tharper | but I haveno idea how extremist their political ideologies are |
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| 13:15.19 | Humbedooh | also, our "strict" policies didn't apply back when they all got into the country :| |
| 13:15.30 | Humbedooh | that's sort of why they became strict ;) |
| 13:15.37 | tharper | lol |
| 13:15.53 | tharper | well, they became strict because Danske Folkpartiet became the power broker in Parliament |
| 13:15.57 | tharper | Folke- |
| 13:16.08 | Humbedooh | that too |
| 13:16.27 | Kalroth | DF for danish freedom and heil hitler! |
| 13:16.30 | tharper | I think things ar ecoming to a head here though, SD have 9% in the latest polls |
| 13:16.41 | tharper | the largest growth is among (angry) unemployed males |
| 13:17.01 | tharper | which is a shock to absolutely no one |
| 13:17.07 | Humbedooh | it's a nuissance in a way, but it's also a good thing to actually start discussing the problems that exist |
| 13:17.33 | tharper | well that si one of the reasons. The current efforts so help settle asylum seekers and refugees is insufficent |
| 13:17.34 | Humbedooh | because there _are_ problems, even if SDs voters are bigoted morons ;) |
| 13:17.56 | tharper | yeah I agree. The problem is that SD claim to know the problems, the cause, and the solution |
| 13:18.02 | tharper | all of which have extreme racist overtones |
| 13:18.16 | tharper | The only fascists which support Israel, ffs |
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| 14:18.39 | Humbedooh | tharper: I'm not saying I agree with SD or DF, I don't, but I agree that we should admit we have a problem with our immigration, because some of the immigrants are simply not integrating at all, they're creating diaspora societies instead |
| 14:19.16 | Humbedooh | supporting israel and the king and what not is to be expected of them, nothing new there |
| 14:21.10 | VIad | Humbedooh: norway? |
| 14:21.35 | Humbedooh | VIad: Sweden in this regard |
| 14:21.48 | Humbedooh | Norway is too cold for extremists ;p |
| 14:22.02 | VIad | but sweden is next to us, not that much warmer :P |
| 14:22.03 | tharper | Humbedooh: I agree, I just think it is the failing of the government's integration programs |
| 14:22.26 | tharper | I don't think the problems are linked to volume and/or origin |
| 14:22.30 | VIad | I never understood how you integrate anyone, they must wanna do it themselves and they must feel welcomes and not discriminated |
| 14:22.44 | Humbedooh | tharper: perhaps, but that should be discussed and not just shoved into a dark corner of the closet like nothing bad has ever happened |
| 14:22.50 | tharper | I agree =p |
| 14:22.54 | VIad | not much else you can do, ultimately they decide how they feel and if they feel a part of the group :P |
| 14:22.55 | tharper | It is a sensitive issue in Sweden |
| 14:23.00 | Humbedooh | which is the feeling I sometimes get when I see Swedes discussing immigration |
| 14:23.03 | tharper | Vlad, yes you can. |
| 14:23.08 | tharper | There is a lot you can do |
| 14:23.17 | tharper | to incentivize and ease immigration |
| 14:23.21 | tharper | thatthe government fails to do, imo |
| 14:23.42 | tharper | and it doens't help that the prevailing idea in Sweden is you can onlybe Swedish if your parents were born and Sweden and you are white |
| 14:24.11 | tharper | that does not have racist roots, that is simply the view Swedes have of what it means to be a "Swede" and that can be very hard for some immigrants |
| 14:24.40 | tharper | and there is a glass ceiling for immigrants when it comes to employment that has not been addressed |
| 14:26.09 | tharper | and the only real integration assistance they receive is SFI |
| 14:26.25 | tharper | can an SFI teacher has a hard time teaching Swedish, sometimes basic literacy at all, and also Swedish cultural norms and values |
| 14:26.29 | tharper | and an* |
| 14:27.19 | VIad | I think becoming a part of another group requires both wanting to, and the other group must wanna make them feel included :P |
| 14:27.35 | Lopeppeppy | And that's the hard part - you can *want* to fit in all you like, if the group doesn't want to open up. |
| 14:27.37 | VIad | doesn't help if people prefer white people at the work place for instance, hehe |
| 14:27.42 | Humbedooh | VIad: yes, it's an integration, not an assimilation |
| 14:27.52 | tharper | precisely |
| 14:28.02 | Lopeppeppy | New England rural towns are the same way - it takes generations to fit in. |
| 14:28.06 | VIad | tbh I feel there is more assimilation going on atm than integration :P |
| 14:28.14 | tharper | Lopeppeppy: that's not quite the same thing |
| 14:28.36 | Humbedooh | but sometimes I do get a bit mad at immigrants when the first thing they do is teach their kids Arabic instead of Danish :\ |
| 14:29.16 | Humbedooh | some don't know better, but some do and should try harder to integrate their children at the least |
| 14:29.17 | Lopeppeppy | Not quite, tharper. A different scale, but similar in ways. |
| 14:29.21 | tharper | Humbedooh: does that turn out to be a problem, though? I feel ike that is a common straw man. The moment any kid that young goes to dagis or school their language becomes a non-issue |
| 14:29.40 | VIad | some religions, cultures, just are more concervative and I don't like it too |
| 14:29.45 | VIad | makes a gap |
| 14:30.15 | tharper | I don't know what you mean, Vlad. |
| 14:30.15 | VIad | concervative means "sticks to the old stuff" right? :P |
| 14:30.22 | VIad | like dislikes change, mixing, new things |
| 14:30.24 | Humbedooh | tharper: it's not that it's an issue, it's the principal of the matter that annoys me. but it's an annoyance, I don't go voting for DF just because of that |
| 14:30.25 | VIad | prefers old school |
| 14:30.53 | VIad | doing stuff like their grandparents did and such, ends up making a gap between some immigrants and the natives |
| 14:30.56 | tharper | Humbedooh: I dunno, we grow up with that all the time in America, it's seen as a sad and outdated notion that you msut sacrifice a language in faovur of English |
| 14:31.05 | tharper | it was commonly done in the 20's and 30's and is often seen as a tragedy now |
| 14:31.22 | tharper | Vlad, that sounds rather waffly to me, do you have an example? |
| 14:31.36 | VIad | not really as it depends on people :P |
| 14:31.42 | VIad | but some prefer to mingle only with their own kind |
| 14:31.49 | tharper | "their own kind?" |
| 14:31.58 | tharper | how do you know that that is there preference? |
| 14:32.00 | Humbedooh | I'm not saying they should sacrifice a language, but they should teach their children about their roots if the children wants to, not as if that is the childrens own identity |
| 14:32.02 | VIad | yes, people with their type of background |
| 14:32.19 | VIad | it's only natural |
| 14:32.40 | tharper | I don't see anything "natural" about it. I think many people feel as if they have no choice |
| 14:32.54 | VIad | but some appear to me a bit too isolated, they really don't wish to mingle with anyone else |
| 14:32.56 | VIad | ehm |
| 14:33.07 | VIad | it's natural to feel at home when you are with people that are similar to you, that's natural |
| 14:33.08 | tharper | But i'd be careful making value judgements about why people do things like that |
| 14:33.17 | VIad | same background, traditions, cultures, e.g. |
| 14:33.26 | VIad | I think you missunderstand me tharper :P |
| 14:33.33 | Humbedooh | VIad: some of them continue to live as if they are oppressed when they are not :| |
| 14:33.40 | tharper | I despise hanging out with people of my background, traditions, culture, with the exception of small number of people |
| 14:33.53 | Humbedooh | if you come from a country where you were oppressed, it's difficult to suddenly be "free" |
| 14:33.56 | Kalroth | why do you think denmark hates norway and sweden! |
| 14:34.03 | Humbedooh | pfft |
| 14:34.06 | Humbedooh | we love norway |
| 14:34.10 | Kalroth | no we dont |
| 14:34.18 | tharper | lol |
| 14:34.21 | Humbedooh | I like Norwegians :\ |
| 14:34.24 | Kalroth | norway isn't even in eu, fucking outsiders |
| 14:34.29 | Humbedooh | I can has cottage in Norway |
| 14:34.43 | Kalroth | norway is full of snow and norwegians |
| 14:34.46 | tharper | there should be some free, they bought up all the ones in Sweden =p |
| 14:34.46 | Kalroth | how can you like the place |
| 14:35.27 | VIad | tharper: I was simply talking about one specific aspect tough, about people that marry only to their own kind (kind as in background, traditions, culture, religion, so forth, it's one word to replace a whole paragraph that I just typed out :P) --- so they tend to be a bit isolated I feel, and it's a bit sad as it's not helping them integrate that much :( |
| 14:35.41 | VIad | don't know if it's a personal choice or not, but that's what I see sometimes |
| 14:35.53 | VIad | hopefully less over time :) |
| 14:36.11 | VIad | nothing wrong with mingling is what I am getting at |
| 14:36.14 | Kalroth | i think the state should decide who gets married with who |
| 14:36.18 | Kalroth | then they could mix it up |
| 14:36.20 | VIad | Kalroth: :P |
| 14:36.23 | Humbedooh | hah |
| 14:36.29 | Kalroth | "Okay Jens, you're going to marry .... Hans!" |
| 14:36.33 | Humbedooh | ye! |
| 14:36.36 | Kalroth | "what im not even gay!!" |
| 14:36.42 | Humbedooh | too bad, Jens! |
| 14:36.45 | VIad | tharper: I hope you aren't angry at me lol, I mean nothing bad lol |
| 14:36.47 | Humbedooh | not bend over! |
| 14:36.50 | Kalroth | :D |
| 14:36.54 | Humbedooh | now* |
| 14:37.00 | Humbedooh | damn it, fat fingers today |
| 14:37.43 | tharper | VIad: not at all, I just think many people have misconceptions about what life is like for immigrants, especially ones displaced for some reason |
| 14:37.49 | tharper | not always evilly meant |
| 14:38.03 | tharper | but we have to be careful about making assumptions about why they do things if we want to help them integrate |
| 14:38.16 | VIad | tharper: I think there are many different cases and I am not trying to put all the situations in "one box" and fix it as if it's one problem here :P |
| 14:38.21 | VIad | many factors |
| 14:38.40 | Sintacks | Downstream: 6247.11 KBytes/s Upstream: 124.79 KBytes/s |
| 14:38.58 | VIad | strickly speaking I am an immigrant in norway too, but I don't feel like one :P but people probably look at me as one (moved here when I was like 6-7 years old so went to school and everything here) |
| 14:38.59 | Sintacks | weeeee |
| 14:39.55 | VIad | tharper: trying to appeal to you :P |
| 14:39.56 | Humbedooh | VIad: you speak bokmål, that's good enough for me! |
| 14:40.14 | VIad | and I never write sms in jalla norsk |
| 14:40.21 | Humbedooh | (b)ikkje på lager! |
| 14:40.22 | VIad | full words only biatch |
| 14:40.41 | tharper | nynorsk ftw |
| 14:40.47 | VIad | :P |
| 14:41.05 | VIad | got no problem with nynorsk |
| 14:41.31 | VIad | but many speak dialects of nynorsk :P |
| 14:42.02 | tharper | I mean, no one "speaks" bokmål or nynorsk anywy |
| 14:42.05 | tharper | they are written norms |
| 14:42.37 | Humbedooh | if only nynorsk would spell Norge correctly :| Noreg feels like saying Myanmar instead of Burma :/ |
| 14:42.39 | VIad | no really some norwegians write stuff like "mæ" instead of "meg" |
| 14:42.55 | VIad | some dialects carry over and affect how people write :P |
| 14:43.03 | tharper | VIad: yeah, thos are no longe found in "nynorsk" anymore |
| 14:43.03 | VIad | I think it's horrible lol |
| 14:43.13 | tharper | people writing in dialect like that are not conforming to any standard |
| 14:43.22 | Humbedooh | mæ...that's what Britney Spears always sings :( |
| 14:43.44 | Humbedooh | and also what a sheep says...coincidence? |
| 14:43.48 | tharper | lol |
| 14:44.26 | tharper | many people write how they speak in Swedish, including Scanians. That doesn't make it part of the Swedish written norm, heh |
| 14:44.58 | tharper | though you are now allowed to write mej/dej/sej if you use it consistently -_- |
| 14:45.41 | Humbedooh | sounds like a threesome |
| 14:45.55 | Humbedooh | gets his Freudian books... |
| 14:46.36 | VIad | nynorsk is a compilation of dialects |
| 14:46.50 | VIad | but no one wants to really follow it either, but it's a good idea, to try and find a common language :P |
| 14:47.48 | tharper | I know people who write nynorsk, they learnt it as their main written language |
| 14:48.05 | tharper | and it doesn't confirm precisely to their dialect, but few people speak precisely as bokmål is written, either |
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| 14:49.16 | VIad | imagine without denmark to help make bokmål |
| 14:49.24 | VIad | each area would speak their own dialect :P |
| 14:49.26 | tharper | yeah |
| 14:49.32 | VIad | imagine oslo with 10 dialects lol |
| 14:49.42 | tharper | I mean...Sweden doesn't have an many, but there are certainly dialects |
| 14:49.57 | tharper | we didn't need Denmark to tell us how to write =p |
| 14:50.04 | Amarande | hmmmmmm. http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/7200062357 |
| 14:50.17 | VIad | tharper: a bit dictatorship is good for the soul |
| 14:50.19 | Amarande | you know all those things about CRZ that some of you folks would dismiss as "conspiracy theories"? |
| 14:50.25 | VIad | *cough* denmark norway sweden *cough* |
| 14:50.34 | Amarande | when one looks at things like this, one wonders if one can really be so sure. :P |
| 14:51.13 | VIad | well denmark helped make the first university in oslo I believe |
| 14:51.21 | Amarande | I only really noticed it last night, when I expected to be able to do today's minor inscription research at midnight before going to bed instead of having to wait till 2PM after maintenance :S |
| 14:51.23 | VIad | that was accepted among scholars in europe, or no? |
| 14:51.28 | VIad | might be remembering wrong |
| 14:51.33 | Amarande | and then was like WTF. WTF DO YOU MEAN THERE ARE SIX HOURS LEFT OF COOLDOWN? |
| 14:51.41 | Humbedooh | and we gave Norway their independence...up until Sweden invaded ;( |
| 14:51.56 | Amarande | hrm. crap, also means now I have to figure out exactly which addon is providing a certain thing on my broker bar and put in a ticket |
| 14:51.57 | Humbedooh | damn Swedes |
| 14:52.03 | Amarande | it still thinks daily stuff resets at midnight. |
| 14:53.25 | Amarande | but yeah, reading the forum posts, and Blizzard's shiny happy salting-the-wounds joke response about "It's *time*" (time in italics), I'm beginning to put more stock in the conspiracy theory aspect of CRZ. :( |
| 14:54.09 | VIad | need to go to work quickly, for a moment, so... see you later :D |
| 14:54.17 | Humbedooh | enjoy! |
| 14:54.22 | VIad | tharper, Humbedooh, Amarande, no hard feelings :P |
| 14:54.24 | VIad | I love everyone lol |
| 14:54.31 | Humbedooh | we wub you too! |
| 14:54.37 | tharper | lol yes nbd |
| 14:55.02 | tharper | though the fact taht your L is actually a capital i is a great source of hard feelings |
| 14:55.12 | Amarande | actually, did anyone here *really* believe for a moment that CRZ was *really* to improve the player experience, or did everyone realise it was a downsizing exercise and was in denial? :| |
| 14:56.45 | Amarande | Let's put it this way. The player base is in agreement that they didn't *want* CRZ, regardless of how active or dead their realms were |
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| 14:57.41 | alestane | [Citation needed] |
| 14:57.47 | Amarande | The player base is in agreement that CRZ causes all sorts of mayhem and chaos, and artificial measures |
| 14:57.59 | Amarande | e.g., essentially, now, the idea of having a realm appropriate to your time zone is completely irrelevant now, because everything is being tailored for Pacific time people and everyone just has to roll with how that lands in their time zone |
| 14:59.21 | Amarande | For me, it works out well in one way (I work 11-4 almost every Sunday, so 5PM Extravaganza is a good thing and 2PM would be awful and induce me to at least roll one character on a PST server to collect the achievement for it eventually), but lousy in others (e.g., it was nice on Monday night to be able to get in the minor inscription research for Tuesday at midnight instead of having to wait till after maintenance) |
| 14:59.37 | Amarande | alestane: check just about every post about CRZ in the battle.net forums |
| 14:59.48 | Amarande | at best, you get a player that agrees that it gives them a little benefit here and there |
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| 15:01.29 | Amarande | but in general, the player base's feeling ends up being that 1) we never asked for this, and 2) Blizzard insists on keeping it anyway, and *very much* stretches the sugar coating whenever CRZ or a feature that has to be significantly revamped in a way that negatively affects large numbers of players is rolled out |
| 15:01.55 | Amarande | Oh, keep in mind that the fact that you can't get Salty in 5.1 if you didn't have a certain achievement already ... that ultimately is due to a CRZ-related fix. :P |
| 15:02.59 | Amarande | The replacement of all Stranglethorn pools with those "ocean mixed schools" (I hadn't been to STV much at all after Cata before 5.1, but El's says they are new to 5.1), which resulted in the achievement being broken (because the Bloodsail Wreckage pools went missing), is apparently part of fixing the tournament for CRZ. |
| 15:03.08 | Amarande | So is the loss of midnight resets on profession cooldowns, etc. |
| 15:03.36 | Amarande | Keep in mind that most players seem to be either indifferent or negative towards the fishing tournament altogether, let alone it *and* CRZ. |
| 15:04.27 | Amarande | the obviously stretched sugar coating though is pretty much enough to suggest that all the hype for CRZ is an attempt to take a downsizing attempt that was clearly going to hurt players and spin it as an improvement for us, though :S |
| 15:04.42 | Amarande | the only question is *why* they're downsizing the servers. it could be good for Blizzard gamers, or quite bad, really. :| |
| 15:05.13 | Amarande | If it's to help get more resources for Diablo 3, then it helps Blizzard gamers (although people who don't ever plan on playing D3 will probably not be happy with this) |
| 15:05.36 | Amarande | If it's to get more money to develop the next WoW expansion or perhaps Titan, then it might be good for gamers (although they've been able to fund the expansions just fine in the past without such radical money saving measures) |
| 15:06.15 | Amarande | I guess we just have to hope it's not to shore up crumbling Activision by progressively cannibalising their one consistently best division so the money can go to keep Kotick and his buddies' salaries and bonuses up. :( |
| 15:06.49 | Amarande | Given that Kotick takes great pride in not being a gamer, I'm not so sure, though. He'd quite possibly be exactly the kind of guy to do just that. :P |
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| 15:39.32 | Adys | what's the best way to get from London to Nuremberg? |
| 15:39.42 | Adys | well, cheapest way |
| 15:40.30 | Humbedooh | bicycle? |
| 15:40.33 | Adys | I was thinking of taking the train but Im not sure that'll be any better than plane |
| 15:43.05 | Amarande | Adys: at least with the train you'll be treated like a human being by default instead of having to prove you're not a terrorist every time like when you go to an airport these days :P |
| 15:43.43 | Amarande | hell, this difference is even the case in the USA. I've taken planes out of Kennedy and trains out of Penn Station, the difference is like night and day |
| 15:47.11 | Amarande | also, I'm not familiar with London, but I'm guessing it's a lot easier to get to the train without having to use an automobile |
| 15:48.08 | Amarande | whereas airports, in most cases, require you to either take special transit services (even in NY you have to pay an extra $5 for the AirTrain to JFK, or bus fare for LGA, since the subway doesn't go all the way there) or an automobile (which often costs as much as your plane ticket for long-term parking fees :P) |
| 15:49.07 | Amarande | I'd at least presume the Tube connects directly to your friendly train station, but that it stops a little short of Heathrow and you have to take separate transit from there? |
| 15:50.01 | Humbedooh | the tube goes to heathrow :\ |
| 15:50.17 | Amarande | ah. |
| 15:50.24 | Humbedooh | at least it did when I last visited London ;) |
| 15:50.26 | Amarande | so more like Atlanta than New York, then :) |
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| 15:51.08 | Humbedooh | http://www.bbc.co.uk/london/travel/downloads/tube_map.gif bottom left corner |
| 15:51.25 | Amarande | ah. in the US it's not consistent, heh |
| 15:51.34 | Amarande | in say Atlanta you can take the MARTA train straight to the airport |
| 15:51.54 | Humbedooh | same in Denmark, our "tube" goes straight to copenhagen airport as well |
| 15:52.07 | Amarande | but in New York, you have to switch from the subway to the "AirTrain" if you're going to Kennedy (and pay an extra fee of about double what a regular subway fare costs) |
| 15:52.15 | Humbedooh | pfft |
| 15:52.24 | Amarande | and LaGuardia doesn't have a subway connection at all, you have to either take bus or taxi or drive there |
| 15:52.36 | Amarande | and let's put it this way, even if I had a car, I wouldn't drive to the airport in New York |
| 15:52.47 | Amarande | there's two reasons for this. one is that driving a car in New York City in general is for insane people |
| 15:52.59 | Amarande | the other is that like I noted above, you'll probably pay more for parking fees than your plane ticket cost :P |
| 15:54.13 | Amarande | and speaking of parking, let's put it this way. Imagine the most utterly obtuse and complex WoW game mechanics you can think of off the top of your head. |
| 15:54.20 | Amarande | It's probably less complicated than the parking rules in New York. :P |
| 15:56.06 | Amarande | One could probably swear the parking rules are designed to bring in revenue from out of state. Wait for non-natives to drive in, fail to figure out the ridiculous ravelings of rules, then cackle as you collect bonus revenue because they did something that seemed reasonable but which actually incurs a $100 parking ticket. :) |
| 15:56.50 | Amarande | It's like those cursed towns down South where they position themselves on main thoroughfares with the sole objective of drastically reducing the speed limit, then supporting their local economy off the tickets as people forget to slow down for the stretch. :D |
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| 16:06.02 | Amarande | but yeah, there are three very important words of wisdom in New York for travelers |
| 16:06.04 | Amarande | "take the subway!" |
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| 16:15.22 | nevcairiel | Adys: since time is money and trains take a lot of time, you do the math! |
| 16:15.35 | nevcairiel | unless your time is worthless :p |
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| 16:55.40 | Shirik | I have a new favorite emoticon |
| 16:55.43 | Shirik | (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ |
| 16:56.16 | Unkle | Then you need to get the in-game flippable table. |
| 16:56.57 | Fisker | old Shirik |
| 16:56.59 | Fisker | sry :( |
| 16:57.02 | Fisker | but where were you? |
| 17:01.27 | pompy | http://www.amazon.com/gp/feature.html?ie=UTF8&docId=1001007241 :O |
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| 17:06.38 | Rythal | hmm... so dell has gone private, wonder if they'll finally start making decent machines again |
| 17:07.40 | Humbedooh | hah |
| 17:07.43 | Unkle | They're probably going to focus even more on enterprise level stuff - shuch as servers. |
| 17:08.17 | Rythal | enterprise usually generates the most profit, so can't see them needing to go private for that |
| 17:08.39 | Lopeppeppy | Unkle, are you drunk? You're slurring your text. |
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| 17:08.58 | Unkle | Um, because investors punish the hell out of you when you change mission/focus as a publicly traded company. |
| 17:09.35 | Unkle | Going private means they no longer have to cater to Wall Street. |
| 17:09.50 | Rythal | only if your change isn't in there interests... so long as they tell the shareholders "focusing enterprise will increase our profit margins" shareholders would love it. |
| 17:11.09 | Unkle | Not drunk, Lopeppeppy. Just missed one extra "backspace" |
| 17:13.21 | Rythal | hmm... now that I read more on it, I bet they want to attempt joining the mobile market, which is why MS loaned them 2 billion towards it |
| 17:58.26 | Lopeppeppy | I just spent... my whole morning doing work that the client... decided he didn't want anymore.... *rant rant swear curse* |
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| 19:19.29 | karl_w_w | http://closeyourtabs.tumblr.com it's like a website dedicated to the failure of an education system |
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| 19:38.24 | Humbedooh | yay @ uk news |
| 19:40.11 | Ressy | lmao. oh geez |
| 19:40.19 | Ressy | Blizz justpulled the plug on a video from North Korea. |
| 19:40.21 | Ressy | http://news.nationalpost.com/2013/02/05/north-korea-releases-rocket-launch-video-that-shows-a-new-york-like-city-in-flames/ |
| 19:41.05 | karl_w_w | Humbedooh: you're cheering the limeys destroying our christian values? you're going to hell |
| 19:41.06 | karl_w_w | etc |
| 19:41.27 | Humbedooh | yeah, gays will marry and do it doggystyle right there on the altar! |
| 19:41.30 | g0urra | LOL |
| 19:41.32 | g0urra | wtf Ressy |
| 19:41.33 | Humbedooh | 'cause that's what they're like :( |
| 19:41.58 | Ressy | o.O |
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| 19:43.38 | karl_w_w | but what has blizz got to do with it |
| 19:43.46 | g0urra | Activision Blizzard* |
| 19:43.52 | Fisker | penis |
| 19:43.59 | g0urra | they did it because of apparently used footage of Call of Duty? |
| 19:44.07 | g0urra | because it apparently* |
| 19:44.13 | g0urra | http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/02/05/north-korea-propaganda-video-uses-call-of-duty-and-we-are-the-world-to-imagine-a-brighter-world-without-manhattan/ |
| 19:44.26 | g0urra | "As a blogger for Kotaku reports, the attack on Manhattan is lifted straight from the video game Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3, and unfolds as a sweeping instrumental version of We Are the World plays in the background." |
| 19:44.39 | karl_w_w | ll |
| 19:44.46 | karl_w_w | with an 'o' |
| 19:44.56 | g0urra | the video can be seen on kotaku http://kotaku.com/5981720/north-korea-uses-call-of-duty-and-we-are-the-world-in-truly-bizarre-propaganda |
| 19:45.13 | g0urra | oh god what |
| 19:45.53 | zenzelezz | ohaithar Cairenn |
| 19:46.05 | Cairenn | hey zenzelezz :) |
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| 19:47.22 | karl_w_w | the whole thing looks like a 90s video game |
| 19:47.29 | karl_w_w | and sounds like |
| 19:47.59 | smcn | that sounds like every indie game released in the last year |
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| 19:52.07 | TC-work | ~ping |
| 19:52.07 | purl | ~pong |
| 19:52.15 | mikma | ~cock |
| 19:52.26 | mikma | ~hen |
| 19:52.26 | purl | i heard hen is hostmode-easy-now, or http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=65232 |
| 19:52.30 | mikma | ok then |
| 19:52.43 | karl_w_w | ok hen |
| 19:55.36 | TC-work | So one of my coworkers just handed me a 32 oz. Monster energy drink........I'm fairly sure it will kill me |
| 19:56.08 | Dagmar | Well, the taste might. |
| 19:56.15 | Dagmar | You should probably chug it just to get it over with. |
| 19:56.17 | TC-work | I tend to like the taste |
| 19:56.26 | kd3 | eew |
| 20:03.01 | Fisker | so Parnic |
| 20:03.08 | Fisker | buying me a surface pro? |
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| 20:08.45 | Parnic | no |
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| 20:24.33 | Shirik | (12:23:34) -› Netsplit (*.net - *.split) 1 quits: ChanServ |
| 20:24.36 | Shirik | amusing |
| 20:26.16 | karl_w_w | I'm approxiamately certain human beings were getting shit done for hundreds of thousands of years before energy drinks came along |
| 20:28.32 | Shirik | yes but they never invented wings |
| 20:28.49 | karl_w_w | yes they did |
| 20:29.08 | karl_w_w | they invented wings and glued them onto animals |
| 20:29.22 | karl_w_w | even dead animals to fool archaeologists |
| 20:29.25 | Semlar | adys: it still only appears to open the first archive in the list in merged mode, does it work for you? |
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| 20:31.38 | karl_w_w | http://closeyourtabs.tumblr.com/post/27411842497/leave-a-message-day-2 the ironies, they burn |
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| 20:39.53 | MysticalOS | build 16539 is now up kd3 :) |
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| 20:40.05 | kd3 | is downloading |
| 20:40.48 | jnwhiteh | anyone get their 1099-MISC from Curse yet? |
| 20:40.56 | mikma | wasthat |
| 20:41.04 | jnwhiteh | tax form |
| 20:41.07 | Kalroth | ill give you a 1337-SUXX |
| 20:41.10 | Kalroth | from Fisker! |
| 20:41.21 | Parnic | jnwhiteh: i did a few days ago |
| 20:42.37 | Shirik | jnwhiteh: I don't think 1099-MISC is required until mid february |
| 20:42.49 | jnwhiteh | Shirik: they aren't, but that's not what I asked =) |
| 20:43.08 | Shirik | Fidelity is always like "WE WILL MAIL STUFF ON THE ABSOLUTE LAST DAY SCREW YOU" |
| 20:43.54 | Parnic | i thought it was jan 31 |
| 20:43.57 | Parnic | shrugs |
| 20:44.51 | TC-work | I am really really starting to like googles scraping. |
| 20:45.23 | Primer | I've not received any 1099's from anything, and I'm expecting at least 3 |
| 20:45.25 | karl_w_w | scrapes TC-work like a roman in a bathhouse |
| 20:45.44 | TC-work | Thanks for getting me clean karl_w_w |
| 20:45.56 | karl_w_w | any time |
| 20:46.07 | karl_w_w | thanks for understand the reference |
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| 22:33.57 | Arrowmaster | so part of an interstate has disappeared from google navigation, i know its beta but come on |
| 22:34.22 | kd3 | well, as long as they don't get to apple maps-level of dain bramage, eh... |
| 22:39.45 | Maldivia | ok - house of cards is pretty damn addictive... |
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| 22:50.03 | VIad | Maldivia: link |
| 22:50.14 | kd3 | netflix, go go |
| 22:50.18 | smcn | please contact your physician if your house of cards stays standing for longer than 4 hours |
| 22:50.19 | VIad | ah movie |
| 22:50.33 | smcn | that's the one with kevin spacey right? |
| 22:50.39 | smcn | VIad it's a netflix-produced tv show |
| 22:50.41 | smcn | 13 eps |
| 22:52.09 | Maldivia | yeah, the one with kevin spacey |
| 22:52.50 | smcn | and based on/inspired by a u.k. show iirc |
| 22:52.55 | Maldivia | yeah |
| 22:53.01 | smcn | because of course it is |
| 22:53.13 | Maldivia | but moved to modern day US politics, instead of Thatcher-age UK politics |
| 22:54.00 | Maldivia | or well, both series are an adaptation of a book |
| 22:54.24 | Maldivia | is UK show was from 1990 |
| 22:54.54 | Ackis | you know the font that you get when you change zones? where can I find out if any addons are mucking with it? |
| 22:55.18 | Ackis | aka is there a way for me to be a lazy bastard |
| 22:55.39 | Maldivia | define "mucking with it" |
| 22:56.06 | Ackis | the font looks weird, it has lines underneath it and whatnot |
| 22:57.05 | smcn | i used to have that problem with prat when addons would use spell icon textures in chat messages |
| 22:57.33 | Maldivia | thought they fixed that font-bug a while ago? |
| 22:58.15 | smcn | well i haven't noticed the problem in awhile, and i haven't used a mod that uses textures in chat in quite awhile |
| 22:58.18 | smcn | so probably |
| 22:58.39 | smcn | obviously only tangentially related to ackis' problem :P |
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| 22:59.03 | Ackis | I don't even know if I have a mod that uses textures in chat |
| 22:59.06 | Ackis | grumbles |
| 23:00.32 | smcn | as you know rule #39472 of debugging, disable stuff until it works |
| 23:01.23 | Ackis | I'm trying to avoid that rule because I'm a lazy bastard |
| 23:01.38 | smcn | forsooth |
| 23:02.01 | smcn | that's why it's so far down the list |
| 23:03.05 | VIad | smcn: isn't that rule 1? :P |
| 23:03.14 | VIad | at least one of the first rules hehe |
| 23:03.43 | smcn | rule #1 is "just don't do that" |
| 23:03.55 | Kaylin | that applies to so many things though |
| 23:04.02 | Kaylin | jmp |
| 23:04.31 | Ackis | isn't rule 1 to decide if it's worth it or not to go to rule 2? |
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| 23:05.59 | smcn | anyways, back to the issue, if there is something using that frame to show messages and uses a texture that may have something to do with it |
| 23:06.03 | Ackis | if you clone your wife and then have sex with the clone, are you cheating on your wife? |
| 23:06.03 | smcn | like a buff reminder or something |
| 23:06.59 | Ackis | hmmm I'll have to think on that |
| 23:13.16 | Arrowmaster | can i get some people to check the website for my moms employer for me, they are getting reports from their nuns in other states seeing "buy cialis" and "buy viagra" inserted into the text but cant reproduce at the office, im looking through the source for anything out of place now, site is http://www.sistersofthepreciousblood.org/ |
| 23:14.45 | smcn | sounds like a client-side spam malware |
| 23:15.15 | Arrowmaster | thats what im guessing it probably is but they say its in the exact same place on all the effected computers |
| 23:16.38 | smcn | nothing on chrome or ie9 |
| 23:18.38 | kd3 | wfm |
| 23:18.56 | Arrowmaster | not seeing anything pulling from a remote page other than google |
| 23:23.43 | Arrowmaster | since im not finding anything either, im going to have her suggest they reupload the site from a local backup if possible, and to find out if those reporting it are seeing it on other websites too |
| 23:28.20 | VIad | Arrowmaster: don't see it |
| 23:29.36 | VIad | Sisters of the Precious Blood |
| 23:29.40 | VIad | vampire book/movie? |
| 23:29.41 | VIad | :P |
| 23:30.04 | kd3 | emails out |
| 23:30.14 | VIad | what kd3? |
| 23:30.23 | kd3 | new ptr build. new ui changes |
| 23:30.29 | kd3 | I've been doing this for years now |
| 23:30.36 | Maldivia | likewise :P |
| 23:30.41 | VIad | emails? |
| 23:30.52 | kd3 | if you're not on the list to get those emails, send me a /msg with your address and I'll send ptr goodies your way too |
| 23:33.32 | TC-work | "2 attachments — Oops... the virus scanner has a problem right now. Download at your own risk, or try again later. " stop trying to infect me kd3 |
| 23:33.43 | kd3 | grrs |
| 23:34.13 | TC-work | kd3: It's a joke |
| 23:34.17 | TC-work | it's googles issue |
| 23:34.26 | smcn | zero-day text file injection |
| 23:34.34 | kd3 | that'd be impressive |
| 23:34.42 | VIad | thanks kd3, does the pvp ui provide easier queue and functionality? |
| 23:34.52 | smcn | i can't wait for new pvp ui |
| 23:34.59 | smcn | anything's better than what we have |
| 23:35.03 | kd3 | it's set up like the dungeon finder ui |
| 23:35.19 | Arrowmaster | VIad: no its a convent |
| 23:35.34 | VIad | I know Arrowmaster, I saw the website. |
| 23:35.43 | VIad | but it sounds kind of like vampire related or blood magic :P |
| 23:35.54 | VIad | sorry for being a nerd :( |
| 23:36.05 | TC-work | oldest diff i have from kd3 is 08 |
| 23:36.05 | Maldivia | kd3: hmm yeah, there kind of has been a lot of exe-only updates recently |
| 23:37.20 | TC-work | back when kd3 was still sending to everyone |
| 23:37.30 | VIad | e-mail is so 1999 |
| 23:37.31 | kd3 | I still am. just using bccs now |
| 23:37.37 | VIad | we got forums today :3 |
| 23:37.40 | TC-work | yea, i mean plain to |
| 23:37.55 | TC-work | i recognize about 90% of that list |
| 23:38.15 | kd3 | I'm up to like... 80 users now? |
| 23:38.19 | kd3 | opens his contacts list |
| 23:38.34 | VIad | btw wanna talk nerdy? |
| 23:38.35 | kd3 | 72, actually |
| 23:38.36 | TC-work | that one had 23 ysers |
| 23:38.38 | TC-work | users* |
| 23:38.51 | Maldivia | I think I only send to 10 people or so :P |
| 23:38.54 | TC-work | 50 people in 5 years, not bad |
| 23:40.10 | VIad | how do you track time in space? |
| 23:40.31 | Maldivia | with a chronometer |
| 23:40.39 | TC-work | decay rates |
| 23:40.41 | kd3 | the same way we do on gps satellites? |
| 23:40.43 | VIad | relativity is an issue as time passes in different rates |
| 23:40.59 | TC-work | you can adjust for relativity |
| 23:41.19 | VIad | here is an idea, using stars to create a general reference point and use this data to help recalculate the time |
| 23:41.50 | TC-work | how exactly? |
| 23:41.51 | VIad | can measure lightyears to stars so somehow can crunch all the data and calculate some sort of time out of it I guess |
| 23:42.15 | TC-work | distance != time |
| 23:42.58 | VIad | if you were to meet me somewhere it would be nice to be able to calculate a date that is common for both of us :P |
| 23:43.11 | Adys | Semlar: how so? |
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| 23:45.02 | VIad | TC-work: just saying, you can't have a clock only depend on itself, need more data to account for relativity :P |
| 23:45.18 | Adys | The message you are sending is too large. All messages must be less than 8.00 MBytes. |
| 23:45.30 | Adys | MY EMAIL IS 6MB YOU COCKSLACK |
| 23:45.38 | Adys | Screw base64 with a rot13'd spoon |
| 23:45.43 | Maldivia | Adys: not when converted to base64 :P |
| 23:45.47 | VIad | how is your inbox only 6 mb? |
| 23:45.53 | VIad | aah nvm |
| 23:46.00 | Adys | Maldivia: yeah |
| 23:46.04 | Adys | email pisses me off |
| 23:46.07 | Maldivia | Adys: and that's what dropbox links etc are for |
| 23:46.19 | VIad | what is the google limit |
| 23:46.32 | Adys | Google limit is around 2gb |
| 23:46.36 | Adys | this limit is google groups |
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| 23:46.42 | VIad | wow, you can send 2gb attachment? |
| 23:46.48 | Adys | yeah |
| 23:46.50 | Adys | gmail doesn't suck |
| 23:46.51 | VIad | awesome |
| 23:46.59 | Adys | it doesnt send this shit in base64 unless it really needs to |
| 23:47.00 | VIad | it doesn't like EXE files |
| 23:47.08 | VIad | even in a ZIP |
| 23:47.15 | VIad | but you can put it in a RAR or something to buypass that :P |
| 23:47.21 | VIad | or just rename the extension hehe |
| 23:47.53 | VIad | btw Adys, work started to send paycheck info over mail in PDF |
| 23:48.16 | VIad | password protected - at first I didn't remember my code so I just ran a bruteforce to crack the password lol, took less than 15 minutes :P |
| 23:48.38 | TC-work | VIad: If you know your speed you can account for relativity. Simple as that. |
| 23:49.03 | VIad | TC-work: what about black holes or other things in between two destinations, you gotta account for that - and space moves around |
| 23:50.11 | Semlar|Laptop | adys: http://imgur.com/a/Z4H7E |
| 23:50.11 | TC-work | VIad: Black holes are a measurable constant. Space moving? |
| 23:50.25 | Semlar|Laptop | this is from the last version but it's the same problem |
| 23:50.27 | VIad | yeah, stuff moves |
| 23:50.39 | Adys | Semlar: that is not the latest version |
| 23:50.40 | TC-work | Stuff moves, space dosen't |
| 23:50.45 | Adys | mpqeditor is up to 739 |
| 23:50.46 | Semlar|Laptop | i know it's not the latest version |
| 23:50.52 | VIad | but when stuff move, spacetime moves too :3 |
| 23:50.53 | Semlar|Laptop | the latest one has the exact same issue |
| 23:51.00 | Semlar|Laptop | i don't feel like taking more screenshots |
| 23:51.16 | Semlar|Laptop | does it work for you? |
| 23:51.43 | TC-work | no, something can move through time and space but spacetime does not move |
| 23:51.53 | TC-work | I am feeling trolled here. |
| 23:52.24 | VIad | spacetime is affected by gravity, so if a object orbits something, it's presence would affect time in the position it is atm |
| 23:52.48 | VIad | so if I travel between two points the time I spent traveling could vary between each trip :P |
| 23:53.04 | TC-work | right, but decay rate is a constant |
| 23:53.19 | TC-work | which is why we use it for time measurement |
| 23:53.45 | VIad | but the problem is, how do you say "we arrive point B in X" when X varies depending on a lot of variables :< |
| 23:53.55 | Adys | Semlar: can you help me out on something? |
| 23:53.58 | Maldivia | you estimate |
| 23:54.10 | Adys | Semlar: Go on a command line, do MPQEditor.exe /version |
| 23:54.12 | Adys | and tell me what happens |
| 23:54.13 | TC-work | ~dict 1 constant |
| 23:54.22 | Semlar|Laptop | i'm not at my computer right now but i'll check in like a half hour |
| 23:54.46 | Humbedooh | how are you typing then? ;O |
| 23:55.11 | Maldivia | could be on a phone? or have a proxy typing? |
| 23:55.20 | Semlar|Laptop | :| |
| 23:55.23 | Semlar|Laptop | <- |
| 23:55.29 | Humbedooh | maybe it's an advanced answering service! |
| 23:55.37 | VIad | Humbedooh: laptops aren't computers, duh |
| 23:55.45 | Humbedooh | pft, they are too! |
| 23:55.50 | VIad | not according to Semlar |
| 23:56.05 | Humbedooh | what would a...swede or whatever know about that anyway |
| 23:56.23 | Semlar|Laptop | i can remote into my computer |
| 23:56.35 | Humbedooh | using a computer..! |
| 23:56.39 | Semlar|Laptop | it's 3.5.0.739 adys |
| 23:56.47 | Adys | Semlar: i dont care |
| 23:56.50 | Adys | just tell me what happens :P |
| 23:57.00 | Semlar|Laptop | i'm looking at the help > about window |
| 23:57.08 | Adys | yes |
| 23:57.14 | Semlar|Laptop | you want the command line version? |
| 23:57.16 | Adys | yeah |
| 23:57.25 | Adys | i want to know what happens when you type MPQEditor.exe /version |
| 23:57.34 | Adys | because its supposed to give me the version and im seeing set_window_text() calls |
| 23:57.38 | Adys | but wine isnt handling this |
| 23:57.46 | Maldivia | window flashes quickly |
| 23:58.01 | Adys | huh? |
| 23:58.11 | Semlar|Laptop | yeah it does nothing |
| 23:58.13 | VIad | ye it flashes lol |
| 23:58.23 | Maldivia | window pops up and disapears again (program quits) |
| 23:58.23 | VIad | it launches a separate process, prints, and quits :P |
| 23:58.25 | Semlar|Laptop | it launches a new terminal that closes |
| 23:58.28 | VIad | yeah |
| 23:58.33 | Adys | i see thanks |
| 23:58.34 | VIad | xD |
| 23:58.36 | Humbedooh | how rude |
| 23:58.57 | VIad | I got 3.5.0.735 |
| 23:59.04 | Semlar|Laptop | he updated it today |
| 23:59.06 | VIad | but had to run a ton of copies and just read it as fast as I could :3 |
