| 00:09.00 | Adys | "Counter Strike released on Linux (and OS X)." |
| 00:09.18 | Adys | it's a great time when "and OS X" is in parentheses and Linux isnt |
| 00:09.26 | Alram | i said the exact same thing |
| 00:09.30 | Alram | in the steam for linux channel |
| 00:09.36 | Alram | are you spying on me Adys |
| 00:09.42 | Adys | no, I dont even have steam on |
| 00:09.50 | Alram | no the irc channel |
| 00:10.16 | Adys | i dont know what channel it is |
| 00:10.37 | Alram | #steamlug :( |
| 00:12.36 | TC-work | that is a horribad name |
| 00:12.55 | Jammer | slug would be cooler |
| 00:13.43 | TC-work | whats wrong with '#steam' other than it might be taken? |
| 00:14.21 | Jammer | windows users I guess |
| 00:14.45 | Alram | its a place for steam for linux users to share fixes/experiences/whatever |
| 00:14.54 | Jammer | tho steam-linux would be more obvious |
| 00:15.08 | TC-work | #steamnix? |
| 00:15.37 | Jammer | does it work on BSD or something else beside Linux? |
| 00:16.13 | Jammer | at least that's not supported |
| 00:16.32 | Alram | the only thing support is ubuntu 12.04+ |
| 00:16.36 | Alram | supported* |
| 00:16.47 | Alram | other distros usually work |
| 00:16.54 | Alram | but i dont see bsd things working anytime soon |
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| 01:01.43 | pompy | http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10152456116185037&set=a.10152450603400037.963428.35181610036&type=1 |
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| 01:23.26 | Ackis | anyone know of a mod that will switch what is displayed by recount based on spec? |
| 01:26.02 | Semlar | no but that shouldn't be too difficult |
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| 01:32.55 | Amarande | indeed. let's see ... if you're a DPS, you care about the DPS meters. if you're a healer, you might not really care about the meters, though some make a point to focus heavily on the healing meters anyway. |
| 01:33.02 | Amarande | and if you're a tank, the meter you should be caring about is called "omen" |
| 01:33.57 | Semlar | not this tank, this tank was attempting to top the dps meters |
| 01:37.03 | Dagmar | I would like to know who is focusing on making fudge. |
| 01:37.11 | kd3 | mmm... fudge |
| 01:37.16 | Dagmar | Tasty fudge is important. :) |
| 01:37.43 | TC-work | But that's an oxymoron |
| 01:37.49 | Humbedooh | might be making some fudge later |
| 01:37.54 | TC-work | ew |
| 01:38.08 | Humbedooh | you have a dirty mind! |
| 01:38.12 | TC-work | yes |
| 01:39.07 | Dagmar | Of course at some point this weekend, some short-sighted smurf will make a move, and that will engage round two, and then multiple more control fields for me. |
| 01:39.11 | Dagmar | @#$@ wrong channel |
| 01:39.24 | Semlar | wat |
| 01:39.40 | Humbedooh | sounds like some...ingress stuff or whatever |
| 01:39.50 | Dagmar | Sorry, trying to pass a suggestion to someone playing Ingress that the smurfs can't beat me |
| 01:40.21 | Dagmar | I'm just trying to be anal about very planting very neat, almost isometric control fields on a neighborhood near my office. |
| 01:40.35 | Dagmar | I've been farming the area for keys for a while now. |
| 01:41.00 | Dagmar | twice in the last week someone's come along and screwed with what I was doing, and I've gotten triple the points they have in the exchange. |
| 01:41.11 | Dagmar | If I gotta get out and walk all over creation to do this, I play to win. |
| 01:41.34 | Dagmar | My old boss took one of the portals I'd left deliberately exposed and attractive. |
| 01:41.58 | Dagmar | ...which allowed me to go out and pop, pop, pop, pop... make four more control fields, all tied to one portal. |
| 01:42.08 | Dagmar | I have a crapton of keys for that one, so we can do this for DAYS |
| 01:42.24 | Dagmar | ...and every time I will come out ahead. |
| 01:42.34 | Dagmar | I am a sneaky sumbitch. |
| 01:42.46 | Humbedooh | also, you play Ingress |
| 01:42.57 | Dagmar | The only thing slowing me down is a _lack_ of enemy activity. |
| 01:43.19 | Dagmar | It's good exercise, I'll say that. |
| 01:43.28 | Humbedooh | fiskers up some enemies |
| 01:43.32 | Dagmar | In the last month I've walked about fifty miles, lost 19 pounts. |
| 01:43.34 | Dagmar | er pounds. |
| 01:44.11 | Humbedooh | that's not good for your skin ;o |
| 01:44.23 | Dagmar | What, losing weight? |
| 01:44.33 | Humbedooh | losing too much weight too fast |
| 01:44.43 | Dagmar | Nah, I'm pretty plastic |
| 01:44.53 | Humbedooh | flabmar |
| 01:44.57 | Dagmar | Most people have about 15 pounds of just water on 'em |
| 01:45.15 | Dagmar | Humbedooh: On the contrary. I'm not very far from my "ideal" weight now |
| 01:45.24 | Dagmar | I was *getting* flabby. |
| 01:45.43 | Dagmar | I much prefer being 165 and being able to kick holes in things. |
| 01:46.10 | Semlar | most of my water is blood |
| 01:46.12 | Humbedooh | is that pounds, kilograms or centimeters? |
| 01:46.23 | Humbedooh | or a bit of both? |
| 01:46.35 | Dagmar | Pounds. |
| 01:46.36 | Humbedooh | I doubt it's your age |
| 01:46.45 | TC-work | No, just how old he acts.... |
| 01:47.06 | Dagmar | Drink more caffiene and you can live subjectively twice as fast as everyone else, too. |
| 01:47.23 | TC-work | twice as fast for half the time |
| 01:47.35 | Humbedooh | yay math |
| 01:55.26 | kd3 | huh |
| 01:55.28 | kd3 | fell through the world |
| 01:55.31 | kd3 | haven't done that in a while |
| 01:55.42 | Semlar | how was it |
| 01:56.10 | kd3 | at least it popped me back at the graveyard and didn't make me spirit res |
| 01:56.13 | kd3 | that's an improvement |
| 02:06.23 | Amarande | heh, or have you fall forever and NOT die |
| 02:07.13 | Amarande | from what I've heard, it used to be falling through the world was as pleasant as http://www.projectaon.org/en/xhtml/gs/03btng/sect269.htm |
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| 02:40.46 | kd3 | wtf--"Fuck you bridge, I'm a tugboat": http://imgur.com/a/cTB2J |
| 02:42.05 | kd3 | or in gif form: http://i.imgur.com/F2zDFC6.gif |
| 02:48.19 | Cairenn | rofl |
| 02:49.09 | Cairenn | That's funny as hell to me. My granddad drove a tugboat back in the day .... |
| 02:50.07 | Dagmar | It's like a nautical failure to lock the handbrake |
| 02:53.18 | Dagmar | No need to worry about me losing weight too quickly. I've decided I don't feel like using the microwave so I'm going to have a nice balanced dinner of chips in four flavors. |
| 02:53.41 | kd3 | mm... fat and oil |
| 02:53.44 | Dagmar | I'll have the cheeze group, the barbecue group, the onion group, and the potato group. :) |
| 02:55.01 | Amarande | kd3: actually, some people suggest those are better than you than the oodles of carbs we're taught to use as the base of our food pyramid |
| 02:55.06 | Amarande | not that chips aren't also rather carby as well, heh |
| 02:55.15 | Amarande | er, *better for you |
| 02:55.17 | Semlar | there is no food pyramid any more |
| 02:55.47 | Amarande | yeah, people realised it was largely a piece of BS being used to get people to eat what's good for *industry* rather than them, heh |
| 02:55.54 | Dagmar | I am an equal-opportunity omnivore most of the time anyway |
| 02:57.59 | Semlar | http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/06/20111110-OC-AMW-0012_-_Flickr_-_USDAgov.jpg |
| 02:58.07 | Semlar | EAT ANY OTHER FOODS YOU WANT |
| 03:01.27 | Semlar | http://intraspec.ca/images/ChineseFoodGuidePagoda2007.jpg aw yeah the chinese food pagoda |
| 03:03.15 | Dagmar | At least they have the sense to include salt |
| 03:03.46 | Dagmar | Ya need salt to get rid of water, and vice-versa. |
| 03:03.51 | Dagmar | Going no-salt is very bad |
| 03:04.19 | Semlar | that's why i have a salt lick next to my computer |
| 03:04.42 | Dagmar | Jerky. Tastier, and keeps fine. |
| 03:05.09 | Dagmar | You just gotta *want it* bad enough to chew it |
| 03:05.16 | Dagmar | Jerky makes you work for it |
| 03:09.14 | Amarande | I've often joked that jerky is called that because of the price |
| 03:09.27 | Amarande | you think "ooh tasty", then you see it's five bloody ninety nine for a tiny little 3oz package and then you jerk |
| 03:19.41 | amro | holy shit steam linux gets super frequent updates |
| 03:20.38 | kullervo | hm.. why do most if not all tracking addons fail at displaying recharging skills such as the monk's roll or warrior's double charge? |
| 03:22.33 | Amarande | hm. is it even worth getting dual spec on a rogue? |
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| 03:24.13 | kullervo | Amarande: yes, one for pvp and other for pve |
| 03:25.05 | kullervo | even if they're the same spec, you get a free set of binds and another glyph & talent setup |
| 03:25.29 | kullervo | http://www.curse.com/addons/wow/notes-uneed |
| 03:25.36 | kullervo | is it just me or does this look like a vanilla addon? |
| 03:26.03 | kullervo | Created 7 October 2005 - and they haven't updated the image since! |
| 03:28.29 | smcn | oh man titan panel |
| 03:28.35 | amro | yeah |
| 03:28.37 | amro | I was gonna say |
| 03:29.11 | kullervo | shame, according to the comments it doesn't work anymore. I would've needed some notes. |
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| 03:31.39 | Amarande | heh, speaking of things I haven't done in ages, I can't believe I didn't visit Ratchet for two, maybe three years |
| 03:31.51 | Amarande | and this is the first time I've quested Dustwallow as Alliance since Cata |
| 03:32.17 | Amarande | (and probably the only time I'll ever see it this way, I've heard once you finish the Theramore's Fall scenario, your version of Dustwallow gets phased account-wide to reflect that? or is it only character based?) |
| 03:32.52 | Amarande | heh. you know what the other odd thing is, those Deserter Agitators you mess with might have had a point. LOL |
| 03:33.16 | Amarande | ... also how did I just almost drown when my head was clearly above water :p |
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| 03:36.34 | Amarande | yup. seems to be a slight bug with the sea turtle. you can be clearly visually above water & still use breath |
| 03:44.15 | kullervo | can someone attempt reproducing this: Mount a vendor mount, speak to the repair vendor, toggle autorun and attempt to sell something |
| 03:44.36 | Semlar | what is the intended result |
| 03:44.51 | kullervo | either "out of range" error or nothing happening |
| 03:45.30 | kd3 | nothing's happening on mine |
| 03:47.12 | Semlar | amarande maybe your turtle is drowning |
| 04:04.57 | Dagmar | Amarande: Don't trust the mad witch |
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| 04:27.24 | kd3 | if someone could forward this along to the ui guys I'd appreciate it: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/7763316714#1 |
| 04:27.42 | Ressy | will do. |
| 04:45.42 | Cairenn | done |
| 04:45.54 | kd3 | thankee |
| 04:50.29 | kd3 | :( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jt0TdwcPkDo |
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| 05:02.56 | Cairenn | kd3: "Thanks. It's a known issue that should be fixed on the next PTR :) (Though it wouldn't have crashed on live anyway.)" |
| 05:03.10 | kd3 | yay |
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| 05:28.21 | bluworkcow | http://themetapicture.com/this-is-a-face-of-pure-terror/ |
| 05:28.25 | bluworkcow | poor puddy tat |
| 05:33.56 | karl_w_w | fake |
| 05:40.55 | Trela | Also reposted from old Reddit post. |
| 05:46.42 | bluworkcow | lol |
| 05:47.04 | Adys | "Draw Europe in MSPaint from memory" |
| 05:47.05 | Adys | http://i.imgur.com/T6zIzEN.jpg |
| 05:47.13 | Adys | Can tyou tell this is drawn by an irishman. |
| 05:47.39 | bluworkcow | draws the irish coast perfectly |
| 05:47.47 | bluworkcow | england is a vague square |
| 05:47.59 | bluworkcow | looks finland is trying to fondle europe |
| 05:48.39 | bluworkcow | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:49.08 | bluworkcow | italy looks like a leg kicking a ball |
| 05:52.11 | nevcairiel | bluworkcow: italy always looks like that |
| 05:52.17 | nevcairiel | except it usually has a heel on its boot |
| 05:52.30 | bluworkcow | to me it looks like a high heel |
| 06:22.01 | Fisker | what happened to denmark? :( |
| 06:22.16 | Fisker | hey bluworkcow |
| 06:22.19 | Fisker | not so hey nevcairiel |
| 06:23.23 | bluworkcow | Fisker happened to Denmark |
| 06:24.06 | Fisker | why are you a jersk? |
| 06:24.33 | bluworkcow | because |
| 06:24.39 | bluworkcow | ~fiskerslap Fisker |
| 06:24.39 | purl | ACTION slaps Fisker around a bit with Fisker. |
| 06:24.43 | bluworkcow | ^^ |
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| 06:28.49 | bluworkcow | oh hai dolby |
| 06:30.22 | Fisker | hey dolby |
| 06:30.25 | Fisker | bluworkcow is a jerk |
| 06:30.27 | Fisker | don't hey him |
| 06:30.56 | karl_w_w | hey bluworkcow |
| 06:38.18 | cogwheel | oh the humanity... https://github.com/cocos2d/cocos2d-x/blob/master/cocos2dx/label_nodes/CCLabelTTF.cpp#L249 |
| 06:38.26 | cogwheel | Shirik: WHYYYYYYYYY??? |
| 06:40.15 | nevcairiel | a pointer to a std::string, really? |
| 06:40.30 | cogwheel | really really... |
| 06:40.35 | nevcairiel | i mean, using std::string is already considered bad in some parts of the world, but using it this way? |
| 06:40.55 | cogwheel | and the interface of this class is entirely char* |
| 06:41.00 | cogwheel | the string is completely internal |
| 06:41.15 | cogwheel | well, protected, i suppose |
| 06:44.35 | cogwheel | and here's a new std::vector |
| 06:44.40 | tzarc | that looks wonderful |
| 06:44.56 | tzarc | probably came from C#land or javaland |
| 06:46.27 | bluworkcow | zombvieland |
| 06:46.47 | cogwheel | objective c, i think... |
| 06:47.03 | cogwheel | based on an (i)os(x) lib |
| 06:47.21 | tzarc | ah right |
| 06:48.01 | tzarc | that said, we have 64-character long function names in our C++ codebase at work, and I'm not sure which is worse |
| 06:48.23 | kd3 | ...wait, what? |
| 06:48.27 | kd3 | scrolls up and rereads |
| 06:48.53 | kd3 | wth |
| 06:48.57 | cogwheel | ^ |
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| 07:13.52 | mikma | cairenn: http://imgur.com/gallery/sGZew |
| 07:13.58 | Semlar | adys i've got another problem |
| 07:14.11 | Semlar | well technically the same problem |
| 07:14.15 | Cairenn | mikma: lol |
| 07:15.14 | Semlar | adding more than one patch breaks it |
| 07:17.33 | Adys | Semlar: um |
| 07:17.37 | Adys | Semlar: code please |
| 07:17.54 | Semlar | this was why i thought i made a typo yesterday when i couldn't open the file |
| 07:18.25 | Semlar | http://pastebin.com/Fcr4baQv |
| 07:18.34 | Semlar | basically the same code |
| 07:18.49 | Semlar | but if you uncomment the first patch it will no longer be able to open the file |
| 07:19.06 | Adys | eh? |
| 07:19.20 | Adys | please be clear on what you mean by "unable to open" |
| 07:19.35 | Semlar | KeyError: "There is no item named 'world/maps/MoguIslandDailyArea/moguIslandDailyArea.wdt' in the archive" |
| 07:19.42 | Adys | ok, yes thats normal |
| 07:19.50 | Adys | as i said patches are incremental |
| 07:20.00 | Semlar | uh how is that normal |
| 07:20.01 | Adys | if they're in the mfil, you're supposed to open them |
| 07:20.07 | Semlar | it is in the mfil |
| 07:20.27 | Adys | the file is added in patch |
| 07:20.29 | Semlar | my actual code loads every patch in order, it doesn't work either |
| 07:20.34 | Adys | er |
| 07:20.38 | Adys | show me |
| 07:21.13 | Semlar | and besides that, just those two patches should work |
| 07:21.21 | Semlar | it shouldn't NEED all of the patches |
| 07:21.32 | Semlar | the latest one contains the file that i'm trying to access |
| 07:21.53 | Adys | i cant guarantee you content fidelity if you dont use all the patches the game wants |
| 07:22.13 | Adys | if it's in WoW.mfil you need to open it |
| 07:22.35 | Fisker | hey cogwheel |
| 07:23.22 | Semlar | you clearly don't need to open it because it works if i only open the last patch file |
| 07:23.38 | Semlar | http://pastebin.com/vEgU8eij this is with all the patches from mfil |
| 07:23.41 | Semlar | in order |
| 07:24.03 | Adys | stormlib handles patching |
| 07:24.30 | Adys | http://dist.blizzard.com.edgesuite.net/wow-pod/public-test/15890.direct/wowt-16486-D4DDFE4B10E9326FE77ED2C3292D7A2D.mfil |
| 07:24.32 | Adys | this is the mfil yeah? |
| 07:24.48 | Semlar | yeah |
| 07:25.05 | Adys | you're missing one |
| 07:25.10 | Adys | 16057 |
| 07:25.31 | Semlar | yeah i missed it when i was typing it out |
| 07:25.35 | Semlar | but it doesn't work with it either |
| 07:25.44 | Adys | ok |
| 07:25.44 | Semlar | my actual script just runs through all the ones in the folder |
| 07:25.48 | Adys | hold on |
| 07:26.35 | Fisker | giev me your username and password Adys |
| 07:26.42 | Adys | Interesting Semlar |
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| 07:26.49 | Semlar | http://pastebin.com/aW2xy5iE new paste |
| 07:27.09 | Fisker | are you convinced into giving me your username and password Adys ? |
| 07:27.29 | Semlar | if i only use the one patch it gets those files |
| 07:27.50 | Semlar | i don't know if it's just stopping at the first patch it applies or what |
| 07:27.53 | Fisker | :( |
| 07:28.01 | Fisker | why does /me scamming only work on steam!? |
| 07:28.15 | Adys | Semlar: you can find it in the namelist() |
| 07:28.22 | Adys | ['World/Maps/MoguIslandDailyArea/MoguIslandDailyArea_18_15.adt', 'World/Maps/MoguIslandDailyArea/MoguIslandDailyArea_18_15_obj1.adt', 'World/Maps/MoguIslandDailyArea/MoguIslandDailyArea_18_15_tex1.adt', 'World/Maps/MoguIslandDailyArea/MoguIslandDailyArea_18_15_obj0.adt', 'World/Maps/MoguIslandDailyArea/MoguIslandDailyArea_18_15_tex0.adt'] |
| 07:28.28 | Adys | patched with just 16486 or all of them |
| 07:28.32 | Adys | but SFileHasFile returns false |
| 07:28.51 | Semlar | well i guess technically it's in the patch file |
| 07:29.05 | Semlar | well no that doesn't make sense either |
| 07:29.15 | Semlar | because it works with just one patch |
| 07:29.36 | Semlar | i feel like it's just trying to drive me insane |
| 07:30.11 | Adys | https://github.com/stormlib/StormLib/blob/master/src/SFileOpenFileEx.cpp#L251 |
| 07:31.03 | Semlar | does it only look at one patch file maybe |
| 07:31.11 | Semlar | i mean that's the only thing i can think of |
| 07:35.15 | Semlar | i could make my own check for which mpq it's in using the code from regenerate_listfile |
| 07:35.33 | Semlar | since apparently it's in the namelist |
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| 07:36.30 | Adys | it indeed only seems to look at one patch archive |
| 07:37.49 | Adys | it sets ha to its haPatch member (the "patch archive", checks if it's null and if not checks for the filename with the patch prefix |
| 07:38.10 | Adys | and then the while loop breaks because ha is no longer null |
| 07:38.21 | Semlar | whoops |
| 07:38.42 | Adys | Wait, no |
| 07:39.26 | Adys | urgh unreadable winapi bullshit |
| 07:39.39 | Semlar | ^_^ |
| 07:39.40 | Adys | fuck hungarian notation |
| 07:39.43 | Adys | and hungarian everything |
| 07:40.40 | Adys | oh hold on |
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| 07:41.18 | nevcairiel | if you think you cant read some code because it uses hungarian notation, something is wrong with your brain |
| 07:41.30 | Adys | no i can read it its just confusing |
| 07:41.38 | Adys | but i see how it works now, patches arent applied to a single mpq file |
| 07:41.42 | Adys | they're applied to each other |
| 07:44.00 | Adys | yeah i dont see whats wrong here |
| 07:45.59 | Adys | Semlar: can you check if a file added in the first patch file is still readable? |
| 07:46.17 | Semlar | i have no idea what is added in which patch |
| 07:46.39 | Semlar | i guess i could get a file list from the mpq |
| 07:46.42 | Adys | OH |
| 07:46.43 | Adys | haha |
| 07:46.45 | Adys | I got it |
| 07:47.08 | Adys | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:47.08 | Adys | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:47.21 | Adys | hello enus-enus-enus-enus/world |
| 07:47.31 | Semlar | :x |
| 07:47.53 | Semlar | so every new patch prepends another copy of the locale? |
| 07:48.12 | Adys | yeah |
| 07:48.42 | Semlar | well that's nice |
| 07:49.02 | Adys | lemme try something |
| 07:49.33 | Adys | actually pm |
| 08:07.09 | Adys | urgh |
| 08:07.18 | Adys | new xorg/nvidia is having issues with repaiting =/ |
| 08:08.03 | Adys | *** stack smashing detected ***: python terminated |
| 08:08.08 | Adys | ok what |
| 08:08.19 | Adys | this is running plain stormlib, what did i break now |
| 08:08.24 | Fisker | soothes Adys |
| 08:08.59 | Semlar | kaboom |
| 08:09.42 | nevcairiel | you should stay with python, languages taht require memory/pointer management seem to confuse you =P |
| 08:09.49 | Adys | dude |
| 08:09.56 | Adys | This is running stormlib-git from the aur |
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| 08:09.59 | Adys | what the fuck did I break |
| 08:10.10 | Trela | Your face?~ |
| 08:11.14 | Adys | nevcairiel: if you still play wow, do not update xorg/nvidia for a little while |
| 08:11.33 | nevcairiel | i have never played wow on linux except for testing purposes |
| 08:11.52 | Adys | ok see nevcairiel |
| 08:11.53 | Adys | i didnt break shit |
| 08:11.55 | Adys | zezula did |
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| 08:12.13 | Adys | the old repo works fine, his breaks |
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| 08:22.12 | mikma | hmmrph. if i would have known that samsung/google is being a dick about rooting android, i would have just got Lumia |
| 08:22.27 | Fisker | they're not being a dick about it |
| 08:22.33 | Fisker | why do you need to root it anyway? |
| 08:23.04 | mikma | cause i run software that require root. and yes, they ARE being dick about it. |
| 08:23.38 | Fisker | so you can run the software on your Lumia without tampering? |
| 08:23.46 | Fisker | also i'm pretty sure they're not being dicks about it |
| 08:23.51 | Fisker | given that Google allows unlocking |
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| 08:23.57 | Fisker | and Samsung doesn't even lock it to begin with |
| 08:23.57 | mikma | they've implemented several checks that'll show that your phone's been flashed without service == void guarantee |
| 08:24.19 | Fisker | That's samsung and there's an app for that |
| 08:24.26 | Fisker | and technically |
| 08:24.29 | Fisker | if you haven't updated |
| 08:24.32 | mikma | no there's not for Samsung GS3mini |
| 08:25.00 | mikma | i know that the program exists but it's continues battle between the software and google |
| 08:25.06 | Fisker | and if it's the right cpu and it hasn't been updated you can just use the exyons exploit |
| 08:25.10 | mikma | the author is stopping the developing |
| 08:25.22 | mikma | i'm guessing i don't have the right cpu |
| 08:25.25 | Fisker | what has Google got to do with it? |
| 08:25.48 | mikma | 10:23 <mikma> they've implemented several checks that'll show that your phone's been flashed without service == void guarantee |
| 08:26.19 | Fisker | google hasn't |
| 08:26.39 | Fisker | and who cares about guarantee anyway? |
| 08:26.43 | mikma | i do |
| 08:26.44 | Fisker | don't got proper consumer laws in your country? |
| 08:27.07 | mikma | we do, but they won't service the phones if it has custom rom |
| 08:27.22 | mikma | you can go and flash laws to any authoriced service place, they just won't do it. |
| 08:28.09 | Fisker | here i would classify laws that businesses can ignore as "not proper consumer laws" |
| 08:28.54 | mikma | pretty much any problem you might get with a new phone they can tell you that it's custom rom's fault (even if it would not be) |
| 08:29.21 | Fisker | and i can take them to court |
| 08:29.23 | Fisker | then say "no" |
| 08:29.27 | Fisker | any sane court would agree |
| 08:29.44 | mikma | suuuuuure, maybe if fantasy world that would work |
| 08:34.53 | mikma | "This phone is NovaThor-based, not Exynos (so no /dev/exynos-mem) " |
| 08:35.54 | Adys | Semlar: it appears patch MPQs have gotten rid of patch prefixes |
| 08:36.06 | Adys | so this is even more of a pain in the arse to support |
| 08:37.32 | Semlar | wouldn't it be simpler without the prefix |
| 08:39.29 | Adys | yes but I cant break the old system either |
| 08:39.36 | Adys | which means i need to find which mpqs supported it last |
| 08:42.23 | Semlar | hm |
| 08:45.12 | Adys | Oh Im an idiot |
| 08:45.18 | Adys | prefixes were gone in 15050 |
| 08:45.19 | Adys | i forgot |
| 08:47.56 | Fisker | prefixes |
| 08:48.12 | bluworkcow | *plops a drama llama on Fisker* |
| 08:48.25 | Fisker | nope bluworkcow |
| 08:48.29 | bluworkcow | :( |
| 08:51.23 | Semlar | denied |
| 09:03.42 | Fisker | you can't stop a Fisker |
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| 09:22.48 | Adys | Semlar: email sent to zezula, sorry it took so long, I hit a bunch of other issues on the way as well |
| 09:22.55 | Adys | wrote some tests for this too |
| 09:22.58 | Adys | anyway, https://github.com/stormlib/StormLib/pull/1 |
| 09:23.06 | Adys | if you wanna recompile it just apply this |
| 09:23.15 | Semlar | thanks |
| 09:23.22 | Adys | in the meantime know that it's just SFileHasFile that's broken so the file actually does exist |
| 09:23.31 | Adys | try extracting it, if you get an error then it doesnt exist |
| 09:24.14 | Adys | also I'm so giddy kd3 |
| 09:24.18 | Adys | i sent a pull request! |
| 09:24.20 | Adys | you hear that? |
| 09:24.29 | Adys | NOT a tarball with a bunch of patches |
| 09:24.32 | Adys | a pull request, omg |
| 09:25.10 | Adys | I dont get how zezula dislikes git so much :( |
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| 09:38.20 | Fisker | i dislike git |
| 09:51.00 | jnwhiteh | why didn't neutronimity just ask for me to add features to Clique |
| 09:51.11 | jnwhiteh | instead of going on for about 20 minutes asking how to do it differently |
| 09:51.12 | jnwhiteh | >< |
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| 09:53.59 | Fisker | i don't hate you jnwhiteh |
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| 09:57.52 | Humbedooh | jnwhiteh: because boobs? |
| 10:10.18 | bluworkcow | *feels Humbedooh's boobs* |
| 10:10.19 | bluworkcow | hmm |
| 10:10.22 | bluworkcow | good heft |
| 10:13.39 | Semlar | http://i.imgur.com/j8RrtIe.jpg |
| 10:15.53 | Semlar | mikma! |
| 10:16.06 | bluworkcow | *hands TNT to mikma* |
| 10:16.14 | bluworkcow | *and a small bowtie* |
| 10:16.19 | Semlar | i see where this is going |
| 10:29.07 | mikma | semlar: hawt. |
| 10:29.21 | Adys | Semlar: :o |
| 10:29.23 | Adys | what is that? |
| 10:29.30 | Adys | are you generating the boundaries yourself? |
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| 10:31.15 | mikma | jnwhiteh: but we would have missed his rant about the whole clique -thing if he would have done it otherwise ;D |
| 10:34.32 | Fisker | btw Adys |
| 10:34.34 | Fisker | you have to hate steam |
| 10:34.46 | Adys | I'm not really fond of it |
| 10:35.51 | Fisker | you can no longer use /me :( |
| 10:36.20 | Humbedooh | is saddened by that |
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| 10:38.09 | Fisker | too |
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| 12:17.14 | Coote | http://legiscan.com/AZ/sponsors/HB2467 Seriously? What the fucking fuck, Arizona? As if there wasn't proof enough Arizona is infinitely worse than Florida and Texas, we now have this. |
| 12:32.01 | jnwhiteh | so. fucking. crazy. |
| 12:32.46 | Coote | Yes. I'm almost positive all the crazies have migrated from Florida to Arizona. |
| 12:38.08 | g0urra | is glad he doesn't live in the US |
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| 12:49.49 | karl_w_w | that's pretty rich, forcing them to take an oath that includes "I take this obligation freely" |
| 12:58.10 | karl_w_w | http://legiscan.com/AZ/text/HB2284 as well |
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| 13:41.46 | Adys | "And it uses this system called DNS, which can give you the web address for a human-readable domain" [...] "because it would be really unthinkable to have everyone remember those numbers for their favourite websites" |
| 13:41.57 | Adys | Now here is what I *dont* understand |
| 13:42.11 | Adys | how the fuck did people put up with phone numbers for so long |
| 13:43.29 | bluspacecow | ….. |
| 13:43.43 | bluspacecow | where'd you read that at. cause that's incorrect isn't it ? |
| 13:43.56 | Adys | it's someone explaining DNS to a tech newbie |
| 13:44.31 | bluspacecow | IP address not web address. i think of a URL when you say web address. 2nd statement is what bookmarks are for. |
| 13:45.32 | Adys | you might as well say "that's what address books are for" |
| 13:46.06 | Adys | it gives me chills to think of how many man-hours have been wasted worldwide because of phone numbers |
| 13:46.28 | Adys | people looking them up in the phonebook, people forgetting them, misdialing them |
| 13:47.07 | bluspacecow | my phone number' |
| 13:47.08 | bluspacecow | is |
| 13:47.09 | bluspacecow | 1 |
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| 14:15.14 | Fisker | hey bluspacecow |
| 14:15.25 | Fisker | want to get murdered? |
| 14:15.39 | bluspacecow | nopr |
| 14:16.01 | Fisker | then why do you act like you do? |
| 14:16.53 | bluspacecow | i dunno lol |
| 14:18.23 | Fisker | yeah well why don't you stop me? |
| 14:18.51 | bluspacecow | not sleepy |
| 14:18.56 | Fisker | ok |
| 14:19.00 | bluspacecow | *sleeps on Fisker* |
| 14:19.02 | bluspacecow | no |
| 14:19.04 | bluspacecow | too sleepy |
| 14:19.07 | bluspacecow | i confused |
| 14:19.09 | haste | where is my amplifier Fisker ?! |
| 14:19.38 | Fisker | where's my charging orb? |
| 14:19.47 | Fisker | and why were you a jersk? |
| 14:20.45 | haste | I'm never a jerk! |
| 14:21.01 | Fisker | you are always a jerk |
| 14:21.05 | Fisker | i asked you about that thingy |
| 14:21.10 | bluspacecow | i thought i was the jersk |
| 14:21.21 | bluspacecow | :( |
| 14:21.42 | Fisker | you are also a jersk |
| 14:22.07 | bluspacecow | :P |
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| 14:26.27 | Fisker | one thing i don't get bluspacecow |
| 14:26.32 | Fisker | how can you be called Ryan as a girl? |
| 14:26.56 | bluspacecow | Ryan ? |
| 14:27.01 | Fisker | yep |
| 14:27.10 | bluspacecow | i r not called Ryan |
| 14:27.23 | Fisker | you are a girl bluspacecow ? |
| 14:27.24 | Fisker | ok |
| 14:27.26 | Fisker | i did not know that |
| 14:27.43 | bluspacecow | lol |
| 14:33.30 | Fisker | why are you a girl bluspacecow ? |
| 14:33.47 | bluspacecow | i dunno |
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| 16:40.44 | Shirik | cogwheel: I loled |
| 16:40.54 | Shirik | and nevcairiel, a pointer to std::string is very bad |
| 16:41.01 | nevcairiel | isnt that what i said |
| 16:41.08 | Shirik | yes, I'm just confirming it because you seemed unsure |
| 16:41.17 | nevcairiel | i cant say i saw it before |
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| 16:48.55 | Fisker | old Shirik |
| 16:49.04 | Shirik | you're old |
| 16:49.05 | Fisker | how is your iphone |
| 16:49.07 | Fisker | yep |
| 16:49.13 | Fisker | older than you Shirik |
| 17:04.44 | foxlit | Apparently /run WorldFrame:Hide() is a problem? |
| 17:06.51 | zenzelezz | how protected is the UI; would it allow you to set WorldFrame or UIParent to nil? |
| 17:08.51 | foxlit | it probably won't stop you. |
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| 17:12.26 | tharper | mikma: completely true |
| 17:12.53 | mikma | tharper: you are missing a letter, that's why i didn't see you thar! |
| 17:13.00 | tharper | heh |
| 17:13.15 | tharper | no longer wants to be associated with his first initial, it is bothersome |
| 17:13.40 | mikma | Y U DO THAT |
| 17:13.47 | mikma | now i have to remember that you changed nick! |
| 17:13.53 | mikma | FFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU |
| 17:13.55 | Shirik | zenzelezz: Honestly it can't really stop you |
| 17:14.05 | Shirik | there's no protections against you setting things |
| 17:14.14 | Shirik | just taint propagation |
| 17:14.32 | Shirik | You can also hide WorldFrame |
| 17:14.33 | Shirik | it's fun |
| 17:15.01 | Fisker | is the guy worse than hitler or something tharper ? |
| 17:15.23 | tharper | who? |
| 17:15.37 | Fisker | the guy you do not wish to be associated with |
| 17:17.07 | mikma | sharper tharper |
| 17:17.16 | tharper | lol |
| 17:17.22 | tharper | it's just I'm never called by my first name |
| 17:17.37 | mikma | lol you have a first name? |
| 17:17.40 | tharper | I am going to register my middle name as my tilltalsnamn and attempt to get it off my bankcards |
| 17:17.43 | tharper | mikma: ja |
| 17:17.51 | tharper | that is what the R was for =p |
| 17:18.00 | mikma | Runkkari :D |
| 17:18.04 | tharper | fuck you =p |
| 17:18.10 | mikma | wait what |
| 17:18.15 | mikma | you understood? :D |
| 17:18.24 | tharper | LOL that is the same word in Swedish, hah |
| 17:18.32 | foxlit | http://www.go-hero.net/content/store/spark.mp4 << gah. The spark leads the fadeout edge by like a pixel sometimes :/ |
| 17:18.36 | tharper | mikma: http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/runka |
| 17:18.47 | mikma | tharper: apparently, lolwned |
| 17:19.10 | foxlit | mostly around corners. |
| 17:19.47 | tharper | lol |
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| 17:20.05 | mikma | foxlit: hell yes, i want that so bad |
| 17:20.57 | mikma | tharper: so wait a moment, tom isn't the firstname? |
| 17:21.09 | tharper | nah |
| 17:21.14 | tharper | Raymond is |
| 17:21.24 | mikma | interesting |
| 17:21.30 | Fisker | i thought everybody loved raymond |
| 17:21.31 | tharper | disagree =p |
| 17:21.32 | mikma | wan't me to call you RAYMAN then? |
| 17:21.44 | tharper | har har har, Fisker |
| 17:21.46 | mikma | raytrace? |
| 17:22.03 | tharper | I thought about changing my name completely, but in Sweden it is quite common to go by a name other than your first |
| 17:22.05 | Fisker | a+ comedy |
| 17:22.05 | mikma | also, fisker ... what was quite funny |
| 17:22.16 | tharper | so it doesn't cause all the confusion it did in the US/UK |
| 17:25.01 | Shirik | foxlit, square peg in a round hole |
| 17:25.24 | Shirik | either the spark has to be non-constant velocity or the fade-out edge has to be non-constant velocity |
| 17:25.32 | mikma | foxlit: spells with black background are fukken horrible to spot when the CD ends |
| 17:27.36 | foxlit | Shirik: velocity is an odd way to think about it. |
| 17:27.50 | Shirik | why? |
| 17:29.26 | foxlit | mostly because there's an arbitrary function mapping [0,1] progress to a vector of stuff that determines what output you see |
| 17:30.38 | Shirik | which is basically position of that spark, right? |
| 17:31.47 | foxlit | as well as size and position of the triangle. |
| 17:31.58 | Shirik | And the derivative of that is velocity. So this mapping function needs to handle the delta between two given points in a non-linear fashion if it's going to sync up with the fade out edge |
| 17:33.05 | Shirik | that being said, I wouldn't have noticed if you hadn't told me to look for it |
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| 17:34.45 | foxlit | Hm, I really shouldn't have called it an edge. It's the border :/ |
| 17:36.10 | foxlit | But anyhow, the spark's position is /non-linear/ around those corners; the border's isn't. They still have to match. |
| 17:36.31 | Shirik | sure but even on the straight edge |
| 17:36.51 | Zootfizzle | I made gloves with magnets in the fingertips and on the back of the palm |
| 17:36.55 | Shirik | you can either have a constant angular velocity or a constant linear velocity |
| 17:36.58 | Zootfizzle | Fisker: I can't stop touching things |
| 17:38.02 | Zootfizzle | I have a somewhat primal urge to wave my hands over other people's credit cards when they aren't watching |
| 17:38.10 | Fisker | :O? |
| 17:38.39 | Zootfizzle | xD |
| 17:39.07 | Jamash | Zootfizzle: to pick stuff up or to sense magnetic fields? |
| 17:39.17 | Fisker | are you magneto? |
| 17:39.25 | Zootfizzle | Jamash: both |
| 17:39.38 | Zootfizzle | I'm pretty sure I can't fight Wolverine with just my gloves |
| 17:39.39 | Jamash | awesome |
| 17:39.46 | Zootfizzle | So I'm gonna say no |
| 17:40.37 | foxlit | Hm, I actually haven't thought about that. I don't think it poses any actual problems; the positions are mapped such that progress and the perimeter of the faded part are linearly dependent. Corners are hard, though. |
| 17:41.11 | Jamash | I was just reading about magnetoception on the wikopide yesterday and thinking about gloves with magnets |
| 17:41.18 | Zootfizzle | Right now I'm using buckyballs for the magnets, but I think I'm going to remake them with cylindrical magnets so I can keep the poles static |
| 17:41.31 | Jamash | makes sense |
| 17:41.58 | Zootfizzle | I would get actual implants but right now they all eventually corrode and poison you |
| 17:42.08 | Jamash | seems bad |
| 17:42.14 | Zootfizzle | That was my thinking |
| 17:42.22 | Jamash | also DHS |
| 17:42.41 | Zootfizzle | Hmm |
| 17:43.26 | Zootfizzle | I want to make the magnets on the back of the glove into a triforce shape |
| 17:43.35 | Jamash | :D |
| 17:44.27 | Zootfizzle | Do you think the left and right hands should have opposite poles so they attract each other? |
| 17:44.55 | Zootfizzle | Just for utility's sake I think it'd be best |
| 17:45.51 | Fisker | hisses |
| 17:46.00 | Jamash | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:46.04 | Jamash | ▲ ▲ |
| 17:46.25 | Fisker | hey Jamash |
| 17:46.36 | Jamash | hey Fisker |
| 17:46.42 | Fisker | :)? |
| 17:46.51 | Jamash | (:! |
| 17:48.42 | Zootfizzle | Haha, I can put my Nexus 7 to sleep by pointing at it |
| 17:49.00 | Jamash | wheeeeeeee |
| 17:49.17 | Fisker | magneto! |
| 17:49.26 | Zootfizzle | I can already tell this will make me ridiculously happy all day |
| 17:51.19 | foxlit | "Binary files a/foo.lua and b/foo.lua differ" :( |
| 17:51.39 | Dagmar | ttp://www.newschannel5.com/story/20711364/city-leaders-have-plan-for-part-of-exsisting-convention-center |
| 17:52.07 | Dagmar | @#$@# window resizine |
| 17:56.25 | Zootfizzle | http://tinyurl.com/maggloves |
| 17:59.06 | Zootfizzle | I picked that USB cable up from like 15cm away with one finger |
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| 18:04.24 | karl_w_w | it looks like it's floating in mid air |
| 18:05.54 | Jamash | seems like it could lead to problems dealing with small ferrous objects |
| 18:06.13 | karl_w_w | no you are! |
| 18:06.30 | Jamash | waut |
| 18:06.42 | Zootfizzle | At least I'll never be fooled by aluminum again |
| 18:07.53 | Zootfizzle | Typing with both gloves on provides a unique challenge |
| 18:09.16 | Fisker | so |
| 18:09.21 | Fisker | where can i get some? |
| 18:10.23 | Zootfizzle | I need to add material to the fingertips so I can use touch screens |
| 18:13.06 | Dagmar | eeeJB Weld |
| 18:13.41 | Dagmar | Thread a bit of copper wire through the fingertip to touch skin, and then put a smooth, flat blob of jbweld on the outside |
| 18:14.03 | Dagmar | ...or jsut get one of those styluses and glue it's tip to your fingertip |
| 18:14.12 | Zootfizzle | I |
| 18:14.20 | Zootfizzle | am going for the second option |
| 18:15.37 | Fisker | sees another wallet project on kickstarter |
| 18:15.46 | Fisker | a lot of people want wallets apparently |
| 18:17.45 | tharper | I wnat a wallent |
| 18:17.47 | tharper | wallet |
| 18:17.50 | tharper | that holds cards well |
| 18:18.11 | tharper | and doesn't have excess room for currency |
| 18:18.14 | tharper | because whothe fuck uses that |
| 18:18.37 | Zootfizzle | I do |
| 18:18.44 | tharper | luddite |
| 18:19.05 | Zootfizzle | Global corporations that exist only to leech money off of other people's transactions can suck it |
| 18:19.11 | Mr_Rabies | i do after dealing with enough debit card fraud |
| 18:19.21 | Mr_Rabies | some shop in town has a compromised POS system |
| 18:20.06 | durcyn | middlemen have been collecting rent on civilization since the dawn of commerce, singling out credit card processors seems odd. |
| 18:20.07 | Fisker | compromised how? |
| 18:20.23 | Zootfizzle | Who says I'm singling them out? |
| 18:20.23 | Mr_Rabies | not sure how, but definitely |
| 18:20.54 | Mr_Rabies | because i had a second instance of fraud in less than a month after getting a new card and only using it places where i swipe it myself |
| 18:21.23 | Zootfizzle | I don |
| 18:21.25 | Mr_Rabies | and the card doesn't have any kind of RFID stuff or anything |
| 18:21.39 | Zootfizzle | I don't work for money so that rich people who already have money can earn money off me spending money |
| 18:23.03 | Zootfizzle | I guess if you chase things far enough down the rabbit hole, I probably always will be doing that |
| 18:23.24 | Zootfizzle | But it doesn't have to be a 3.5% tax for using a piece of plastic |
| 18:23.58 | durcyn | shops that discount cash transactions are relatively rare |
| 18:24.28 | Zootfizzle | I'm not interested in getting a discount, I'm interested in that 3.5% going to the business owner |
| 18:25.17 | Iriel | Zootfizzle: OTOH, some business owners have to turn around and spend more on physical security, transports to the bank, etc. |
| 18:25.33 | Iriel | Zootfizzle: (I use cash for most small purchases tho, myself) |
| 18:25.45 | Fisker | cash is for suckers |
| 18:26.05 | durcyn | you only spend yours on lollipops and prostitutes, Fisker? |
| 18:26.20 | Fisker | yep |
| 18:28.28 | Zootfizzle | Maybe someday I'll get used to an economy based on trying to rip people off and forced rent taking |
| 18:28.42 | Zootfizzle | I'll probably have to stop watching Star Trek |
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| 18:29.45 | durcyn | or stock up on latinum |
| 18:30.36 | Zootfizzle | is a gnome, not a ferengi |
| 18:31.40 | durcyn | until such time as antimatter energy generation and matter replication obviate scarcity, you get to play one |
| 18:31.48 | durcyn | thanks for nothing, roddenberry |
| 18:32.36 | Zootfizzle | Uh |
| 18:32.42 | Zootfizzle | No |
| 18:32.44 | zenzelezz | now now, don't you go accusing mr. Roddenberry |
| 18:33.00 | zenzelezz | you know it was the executives who kept him in line |
| 18:33.31 | Jamash | who decides land ownership in star trek, that's what I want to know |
| 18:33.34 | Zootfizzle | I've had enough of exploiting large numbers of people while being taken advantage of by an employer for one lifetime, thanks Blizzard |
| 18:33.44 | Jamash | aw |
| 18:34.15 | durcyn | who hurt you, Zootfizzle |
| 18:34.15 | Jamash | but you're not bitter? |
| 18:34.26 | Zootfizzle | Once bitten, twice shy |
| 18:34.43 | Jamash | show me on the figureprint where bobby kotick touched you |
| 18:34.54 | Fisker | did they tell you purposely taint the UI so people couldn't automate glyphing Zootfizzle ? |
| 18:35.21 | Zootfizzle | It's Slouken's taint, not mine |
| 18:35.26 | Zootfizzle | I just touched it every once in a while |
| 18:35.44 | Fisker | slouken would never |
| 18:36.00 | Jamash | ~emulate jamash |
| 18:36.00 | purl | Kinky. |
| 18:36.11 | Zootfizzle | Anyway |
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| 18:36.41 | Zootfizzle | Enough defending my perspective on modern economics in a doomed society |
| 18:36.47 | Zootfizzle | I'm going somewhere else to play with my gloves |
| 18:37.01 | karl_w_w | tmi |
| 18:37.05 | Jamash | visa headquarters? |
| 18:37.10 | Jamash | aw |
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| 18:41.45 | Jamash | there are mice in the walls |
| 18:41.49 | Jamash | I can hear them |
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| 19:40.43 | foxlit | http://www.go-hero.net/box/spark2.mp4 << I think that works. |
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| 19:44.16 | kd3 | ah, boo. missed zoot |
| 19:44.23 | kd3 | wanted to yell at him for taint issues >.> |
| 19:51.27 | pompy | http://www.cnn.com/2013/01/26/tech/anonymous-threat/index.html |
| 19:54.50 | Coote | Get out the popcorn, because this might just be fun to watch. |
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