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| 00:41.12 | Adys | anyone knows where i can get a list of release retail prices for htc phones? |
| 00:41.35 | Arrowmaster | somebody just tried to use pocket sand in our pathfinder game |
| 00:42.32 | Semlar | was it dale gribble |
| 00:43.15 | Arrowmaster | no one player is following the other and got caught |
| 00:43.34 | Mr_Rabies | yesss |
| 00:43.48 | Mr_Rabies | also i think you mean rusty shackleford, semlar |
| 00:43.57 | Semlar | my mistake |
| 00:44.00 | Arrowmaster | he got grapple hooked and roped in |
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| 00:50.15 | Arrowmaster | this is 1v1 illusionist vs alchemist and the illusionist is getting his ass kicked |
| 00:50.37 | Arrowmaster | lol and now hes unconscious and getting framed |
| 00:57.37 | mikma | i hope this is real life |
| 00:58.01 | Mr_Rabies | mannnn |
| 00:58.10 | Mr_Rabies | still no jailbreak on the appletv 3 :< |
| 00:58.42 | mikma | and no easy root for samsung galaxy s3 mini |
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| 01:14.10 | Benalish | anyone can help me with LibButtonFacade? :) |
| 01:15.28 | foxlit | Liberally apply a cleansing fire? |
| 01:19.01 | Amarande | foxlit: the phrase is BY FIRE BE PURGED |
| 01:20.28 | Amarande | bluh. blizzard, why do you put ore nodes in places that no reasonable player could possibly survive mining? :) |
| 01:21.29 | Amarande | like there's this one kyparite node that likes to spawn near the border between dread wastes and the wall ... and is surrounded by one of those battalions of something like 8 or 10 400k HP bugs |
| 01:21.40 | Amarande | heh |
| 01:21.49 | Torhal | foxlit: Ya think? :) |
| 01:22.19 | Dagmar | I would be more concerned with why you people keep trying to mine it. |
| 01:22.59 | Amarande | heh, I don't anymore |
| 01:23.12 | Amarande | I imagine a lot of people's first death on them comes from the fast-flyer-lag phenomenon, though |
| 01:23.21 | Amarande | pretty much how I died on that titanium node back in Wrath, too |
| 01:24.11 | foxlit | Torhal: there aren't really any significant changes on the ptr. |
| 01:24.29 | Amarande | oh, that reminds me. foxlit, do you happen to know off the top of your head if they fixed salty in 5.2 yet? |
| 01:24.34 | Torhal | foxlit: Someone showed me in the diff where they specifically changed code to make it a non-issue |
| 01:24.37 | Torhal | Forget which diff though |
| 01:25.05 | foxlit | Torhal: and you trusted them? :) |
| 01:25.12 | foxlit | probably this: http://wow.go-hero.net/framexml/16467/SecureTemplates.lua/diff |
| 01:25.14 | Torhal | The code looked legit.. |
| 01:25.45 | Torhal | Yah, that's it. |
| 01:26.08 | Amarande | (the problem, specifically, is that the wreckage pools achievement that's part of the Salty meta calls for a Bloodsail Wreckage pool, and 5.1 - accidentally or not, I'm not sure - removed all such pools but left them required in the cheeve) |
| 01:27.34 | foxlit | Torhal: that's actually a very narrow fix: custom unit frames now stand a chance to allow you to set focus via dropdown menus |
| 01:27.44 | foxlit | s/ to / of / |
| 01:27.54 | Torhal | Aye |
| 01:29.43 | foxlit | if that was the only thing wrong with uidropdownmenu, people would be extremely happy :) |
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| 02:03.53 | kd3 | got dirty in 2 minutes? impressive |
| 02:10.12 | bluspacecow | wot |
| 02:15.12 | bluspacecow | lol work tiems |
| 02:18.00 | Arrowmaster | Cairenn: i just took this http://imgur.com/K65aDRI |
| 02:18.09 | Cairenn | awwww |
| 02:18.36 | Arrowmaster | he was walking all over our game mat |
| 02:19.49 | Thunder_Child | Arrowmaster: are you on IRC while playing? |
| 02:19.53 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 02:20.05 | Thunder_Child | Arrowmaster: Have your DM throw a D20 at you please |
| 02:20.24 | Arrowmaster | why, my character isnt doing anything right now |
| 02:20.38 | Thunder_Child | You should still be paying attention to the game |
| 02:20.43 | Thunder_Child | and formulating a strat |
| 02:20.50 | Thunder_Child | unless you have low int |
| 02:20.52 | Arrowmaster | no combat right now |
| 02:20.58 | kd3 | whee; jurassic park references on the isle of giants |
| 02:20.59 | Arrowmaster | and i am paying attention |
| 02:21.00 | Thunder_Child | so RP then? |
| 02:21.24 | Arrowmaster | we let a cat sit on the game mat, its RP time instead of combat |
| 02:21.41 | Thunder_Child | yea...'let' doesn't really apply to cats |
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| 02:23.33 | kd3 | though only three NPCs and a few quotes. I'm disappointed. they could stand to add some more |
| 02:24.42 | Thunder_Child | maybe they could get a black gnome to go work on the generator ny himself. |
| 02:24.45 | Thunder_Child | by* |
| 02:42.24 | kd3 | all of the references (I figured out a few more npc names) http://www.wowpedia.org/Jurassic_Expedition |
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| 03:30.52 | kd3 | yay random facts: "Despite high infant mortality rates and lower life expectancies, not one of your direct ancestors died childless." |
| 03:31.16 | Thunder_Child | silly fact? |
| 03:33.13 | Seerah | kd3: clever! |
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| 03:36.39 | Benalish | anyone can help me with LibButtonFacade? :) |
| 03:37.38 | Seerah | you mean Masque? |
| 03:38.09 | Semlar | don't you mean carrots? |
| 03:38.32 | Adys | kd3: and 35000 turks are dead. |
| 03:38.42 | kd3 | heh, you're reading that thread too |
| 03:39.49 | Benalish | yes |
| 03:39.54 | Benalish | masque |
| 03:40.08 | kd3 | the comment in question for those of you playing along at home: http://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/16wirc/reddit_what_is_the_happiest_fact_you_know/c800pji |
| 03:40.37 | Benalish | doesn't show the addon subgroups |
| 03:40.47 | Seerah | Benalish: just checking - ButtonFacade has been Masque for about 2 years now. ;) |
| 03:40.53 | Seerah | huh? |
| 03:46.06 | Benalish | :Group("Addon"[, "Group"[, "Button"]]) do not shows the subgroups ;| |
| 03:49.08 | Seerah | Benalish: I don't use Masque, nor do I have support for it in my addons. Did you make sure that you read all of the documentation? http://www.wowace.com/addons/masque/pages/ Did you look at the code of another addon that does what you want to do? |
| 03:49.49 | Seerah | Besides... without seeing anything else in your code, we have 0 to go on, unless there's a known issue (or whatever) |
| 03:50.31 | Seerah | (I don't see anything about subgroups in the docs) |
| 03:51.33 | Seerah | ah, nvm. this one spot in the docs calls the group of the addon a sub-group. |
| 03:52.37 | Seerah | Benalish: which reminds me of the 4th section in the FAQ here: http://www.wowace.com/addons/masque/ Are you sure you're using the Masque api and not the old LibButtonFacade? |
| 03:56.38 | kd3 | rolls his eyes |
| 03:56.39 | kd3 | "Gun Appreciation Day celebrated with accidental shootings at two different gun shows [Obvious]" |
| 03:56.48 | kd3 | http://gawker.com/5977377/gun-appreciation-day-celebrated-with-accidental-shootings-at-gun-shows-in-north-carolina-and-ohio |
| 03:56.55 | Seerah | oh 2? I saw an article for one in ohio :) |
| 04:00.22 | karl_w_w | lol the comments |
| 04:00.35 | karl_w_w | "This never would have happened if everyone else had a gu...oh. Nevermind. " |
| 04:02.14 | karl_w_w | why do all those people waiting outside that gun show look stupid? |
| 04:02.29 | karl_w_w | oh right, it's because they're waiting to go to a gun show |
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| 04:08.10 | Arrowmaster | was just watching the news in the other room and didnt realize these new proposed gun laws that limit 'large capacity magazines' actually means 'anything larger than 10 rounds' |
| 04:08.29 | Arrowmaster | now im considering buying the pistol i was looking at a while back |
| 04:08.53 | karl_w_w | they should limit anything larger than 0 rounds |
| 04:10.30 | Arrowmaster | 10 is just a silly number to limit to |
| 04:11.02 | karl_w_w | I agree completely |
| 04:11.19 | karl_w_w | a school shooting of 10 people is still too many |
| 04:11.31 | karl_w_w | it should be limited at 3 or 4, that's acceptable |
| 04:13.28 | kd3 | I'd be impressed (in a horrified sense) if someone with a 10-magazine clip could actually manage to kill 10 people with it |
| 04:13.41 | kd3 | s/10-magazine clip/10-bullet magazine/ |
| 04:13.58 | foxlit | why not reload? |
| 04:14.06 | foxlit | works in movies! |
| 04:14.08 | kd3 | because that'd be too easy |
| 04:14.38 | Arrowmaster | current law in my state says upto 31 rounds is acceptable |
| 04:14.48 | karl_w_w | you haven't watched enough action movies kd3 |
| 04:15.11 | karl_w_w | 31 |
| 04:15.28 | karl_w_w | what's the thinking on that? one for each day of the month? :P |
| 04:15.57 | Arrowmaster | go check youtube for speed reloading videos, and think that those are the people extremely good at it, those that just practice a little arent that far off |
| 04:17.44 | karl_w_w | no no, I've seen movies where the guy drops the clip out of the bottom, throws the new clips in the air and just slides the gun onto the clip in mid-flight |
| 04:17.51 | karl_w_w | that's how long it takes realistically |
| 04:49.08 | karl_w_w | some people are so dumb |
| 04:49.29 | karl_w_w | they say that fibre to the home is obsolete technology |
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| 04:57.57 | bluworkcow | well it is |
| 04:58.01 | bluworkcow | its centuries old |
| 04:58.05 | bluworkcow | *eats wheetbix* |
| 05:10.12 | karl_w_w | omg finally |
| 05:10.27 | karl_w_w | the tolvir archaeology mount is my next solve |
| 05:10.59 | karl_w_w | it'll be my 245 tolvir solve |
| 05:12.54 | bluworkcow | yay |
| 05:19.48 | Arrowmaster | haha http://www.reddit.com/r/rpg/comments/16wswk/dear_rrpg_so_this_just_happened_i_dont_even/ |
| 05:20.37 | Corrodias | what's rrpg? 'Rotic RolePlaying Games? |
| 05:21.37 | kd3 | a subreddit: /r/rpg |
| 05:27.46 | karl_w_w | how did i only just realise mantid = mongols? |
| 05:30.24 | Jammer | karl_w_w: gz on the mount |
| 05:32.11 | Jammer | at 86 solves myself so far... really cba to do archaeology tho :( |
| 05:32.29 | Jammer | if it's gonna take another 100+ solves I'm gonna cry |
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| 05:42.59 | Semlar | SetBackdrop is putting a huge amount of space between my textures when i tell it to tile |
| 05:47.05 | Semlar | http://i.imgur.com/YL5V7uk.jpg this is SetBackdrop({bgFile = [[Interface\ICONS\INV_Mushroom_11]], tileSize = 32, tile = true}) |
| 05:47.27 | Semlar | am i wrong in thinking this should.. be tiling it across the whole frame |
| 05:47.35 | bluworkcow | herro Mr Mushroom |
| 05:49.01 | Semlar | maybe it slices up the background like it does for the borders |
| 05:50.07 | Semlar | i want to just tile a background image without making a bunch of textures because that kills the game |
| 05:55.42 | Semlar | i don't get it because just using a blank 8x8 texture it tiles as you would expect |
| 05:56.24 | Arrowmaster | long but this is what happened in my session tonight http://www.reddit.com/r/rpg/comments/16wswk/dear_rrpg_so_this_just_happened_i_dont_even/c804y4i |
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| 05:57.35 | Arrowmaster | Thunder_Child: ^^ why i was on irc while roleplaying |
| 05:59.46 | Thunder_Child | Arrowmaster: And now it all makes sense |
| 06:00.32 | Thunder_Child | That's possibly the kind of game i would walk out of. |
| 06:00.42 | Arrowmaster | why |
| 06:01.32 | Thunder_Child | I don't enjoy games where players fight each other. |
| 06:02.33 | Semlar | http://i.imgur.com/Hl7FW3f.jpg alright well it looks like the backdrop just tiles across the width then stretches the bottom row out over the rest of it |
| 06:02.49 | Semlar | not really what i was expecting |
| 06:03.35 | Arrowmaster | Thunder_Child: in this case both players knew it was happening before the actual character conflict occurred and chose to let it happen |
| 06:05.02 | Arrowmaster | i agree in not wanting to play with another player trying to start unwanted conflict |
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| 06:19.52 | bleeter | ahaha https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/398032_581406515207576_1671429919_n.jpg |
| 06:40.34 | Adys | happy birthday Shirik |
| 06:53.56 | bluworkcow | *gasp* |
| 06:53.58 | bluworkcow | oh rly |
| 07:01.18 | *** topic/#wowuidev by Cairenn -> http://pastebin.com || 5.1.x ToC: 50100 || #WoWUIDev-commits: CIA & JIRA bots reporting || Battletags: http://goo.gl/2bm7n || This channel is logged, via purl || Happy Birthday Shirik! |
| 07:02.56 | bluworkcow | ya rly |
| 07:03.31 | Primer | Anyone know the name of the frame that is the amber shaper mostrosity "cast bar", but is really some sort of alt bar? |
| 07:04.06 | Primer | Because any time I become MC'd, I can never see the cast that I'm supposed to interrupt |
| 07:06.04 | durcyn | player construct bar shows on player, boss cast bar shows on boss/target/focus/whatever. |
| 07:08.34 | Jammer | seems weird it would be something other than regular target castbar |
| 07:13.19 | bluworkcow | circular cast bar |
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| 07:16.59 | bleeter | Shirik: where's the party and why weren't we invited?!?!?!?! |
| 07:19.58 | Thunder_Child | Because it's his party and he will cry if he wants to |
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| 07:28.24 | Primer | durcyn: sorry, afk'd after asking. But...I'm told to interrupt a cast that I never see. I can see "Fling" just fine in Quartz |
| 07:28.40 | Fisker | hey haste |
| 07:31.07 | Fisker | i would hope you didn't die Shirik |
| 07:32.55 | durcyn | Primer: it should show as a normal cast, do you use an addon that has filtering? can you enable a castbar for boss1/boss2? |
| 07:33.08 | durcyn | Primer: bigwigs should also have a cooldown and cast bar |
| 07:53.04 | Primer | I use DBM. I'm reading that this is supposed to be some sort of alternate power bar |
| 07:54.23 | Primer | durcyn: you happen to know the name of the cast? |
| 07:55.35 | Primer | Like I said, I can see him casting Fling just fine. Isn't it just a normal cast? Maybe he never actually cast it while I was a mini-monstrosity |
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| 07:56.38 | durcyn | it's just a normal cast. it's on a rather lengthy cooldown. |
| 07:57.11 | Primer | yeah, I have a feeling I never actually saw that cast |
| 08:01.02 | durcyn | people use dbm .. on purpose? |
| 08:01.42 | Primer | it's what we grew up on |
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| 08:26.44 | bluworkcow | lol |
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| 08:39.57 | Fisker | hey haste |
| 08:40.01 | Fisker | not so hey bluworkcow |
| 08:40.13 | Fisker | he who sought me but failed |
| 08:40.19 | bluworkcow | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:40.23 | bluworkcow | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:40.30 | Fisker | why? |
| 08:41.10 | bluworkcow | cause |
| 08:41.13 | bluworkcow | RADISH |
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| 10:28.41 | haste | hey Fisker |
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| 10:32.20 | mikma | semlar: ping |
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| 10:36.57 | Fisker | so haste |
| 10:37.00 | Fisker | my wireless charger |
| 10:37.02 | Fisker | when do i get it? |
| 10:37.08 | haste | next year |
| 10:37.21 | Fisker | :( |
| 10:37.27 | Fisker | surface pro? |
| 10:40.24 | haste | never |
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| 11:12.05 | Fisker | :( |
| 11:12.14 | Fisker | you wound me haste |
| 11:13.52 | haste | dustinhome has 12.02.2013 as date on the charger Fisker |
| 11:15.39 | Fisker | i know |
| 11:22.10 | jnwhiteh | dustinhome ships so quickly |
| 11:22.12 | jnwhiteh | compared to webhallen |
| 11:22.13 | jnwhiteh | =/ |
| 11:22.15 | jnwhiteh | but ah well |
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| 11:49.55 | Fisker | hey jnwhiteh |
| 11:57.24 | jnwhiteh | hi |
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| 12:52.05 | Fisker | touches jnwhiteh using his cold feet |
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| 12:56.44 | Fisker | it would be awesome if surface pro is released this month haste |
| 12:57.18 | Fisker | but probably won't be any scandinavian sku's :( |
| 12:57.30 | Fisker | but imma get it from the UK or DE |
| 12:59.36 | haste | but so useless |
| 13:01.59 | Fisker | no |
| 13:02.48 | karl_w_w | Fisker where's my nexus 4? |
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| 13:05.37 | Zootfizzle | Fisker why would you hurt yourself with a surface anything? |
| 13:08.04 | Fisker | because it's awesome |
| 13:08.29 | Zootfizzle | Compared to anything else running Windows 8, yes. |
| 13:10.14 | Fisker | so we agree |
| 13:10.45 | Zootfizzle | So we agree you want to hurt yourself by using Windows 8 in the most awesome possible way |
| 13:11.14 | Zootfizzle | That's like sticking yourself in the eye with a $1000 fork |
| 13:11.17 | Fisker | how will it hurt me? |
| 13:11.32 | Fisker | windows 8 is greatest OS EU |
| 13:11.43 | Fisker | besides i could just install something else |
| 13:14.50 | jnwhiteh | Fisker: sorry, had to fix a server issue |
| 13:14.55 | jnwhiteh | i can enjoy your feet now |
| 13:15.01 | Fisker | you work on a sunday? |
| 13:15.01 | Fisker | lol |
| 13:15.12 | jnwhiteh | if we stop being able to process payments, yes |
| 13:15.17 | jnwhiteh | someone has to look into it |
| 13:15.28 | Fisker | sounds like something you could push back a couple of weeks |
| 13:15.46 | Maldivia | psh... payments, not really that important for a business |
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| 13:16.14 | jnwhiteh | Maldivia: technically we have another stream of revenue as well |
| 13:16.25 | jnwhiteh | our is just... more substantial than the ad revenue =) |
| 13:16.36 | Maldivia | :) |
| 13:17.26 | Fisker | getting me a surface pro then jnwhiteh ? |
| 13:17.36 | jnwhiteh | I wish psql made it easier to see the details of a transaction that is stuck in <IDLE> in transaction |
| 13:17.45 | karl_w_w | no Fisker, jnwhiteh has taste! |
| 13:18.09 | Fisker | like billing address, card number and verification code right? |
| 13:18.26 | bluspacecow | @karl_w_w oh rly ? |
| 13:18.32 | bluspacecow | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:18.35 | bluspacecow | mmmm fruity! |
| 13:18.46 | Maldivia | jnwhiteh: take it you're happy for the job - even if you have to be available on a sunday :P |
| 13:19.13 | jnwhiteh | Maldivia: I don't *have* to be, I just happened to be here :P |
| 13:19.21 | jnwhiteh | and by here I mean near my emails |
| 13:19.29 | jnwhiteh | I enjoy what I'm doing, yeah |
| 13:19.29 | Fisker | should've taken the day off |
| 13:19.33 | Fisker | that's what we do |
| 13:19.40 | Fisker | make changes that are sure to break stuff |
| 13:19.48 | Fisker | then take the next few days off |
| 13:20.19 | Maldivia | jnwhiteh: well, "near my emails" - that would be almost 24/7 then |
| 13:20.35 | jnwhiteh | Maldivia: I could have ignored it, and would have if I was doing something else |
| 13:20.48 | jnwhiteh | We're going to have more formal out-of-hours responsibilities |
| 13:20.58 | jnwhiteh | but it won't be as bad as the weekly 24/7 support at Anheuser-Busch. |
| 13:21.01 | jnwhiteh | That was soul-sucking. |
| 13:21.09 | jnwhiteh | "Hey.. the beer is broken." |
| 13:21.37 | Maldivia | then again - that would be something you would want to fix real fast! |
| 13:22.01 | jnwhiteh | it was a really old siemens system running on NT4 |
| 13:22.09 | jnwhiteh | FML doesn't begin to describe it |
| 13:22.40 | Maldivia | so a real wonder it even survived this long... |
| 13:23.00 | Maldivia | (a case in which "honor your elders" doesn't really apply) |
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| 13:48.32 | zenzelezz | IEM Katowice streams struggling :-| |
| 13:53.20 | Fisker | calm down haste |
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| 14:11.43 | haste | BUT I AM CALM |
| 14:12.02 | zenzelezz | like a bomb? |
| 14:12.17 | Fisker | not calm at all haste |
| 14:12.22 | Fisker | i saw you ordering a surface pro |
| 14:12.27 | haste | no |
| 14:12.27 | bluspacecow | i have no pants fisker |
| 14:12.32 | Fisker | ok bluspacecow |
| 14:12.35 | Fisker | want me to get you some? |
| 14:12.42 | bluspacecow | yes pls |
| 14:12.44 | bluspacecow | it r cold |
| 14:12.53 | A-KO | so I kinda want a lancer evo mr....might buy one in a couple of years |
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| 14:23.45 | Amarande | bah! |
| 14:23.52 | Amarande | why doesn't everything of a daily nature reset at the *same* time each day :( |
| 14:24.53 | Fisker | what doesn't? |
| 14:24.59 | Amarande | I just tried to go do my daily Sethekk and MgT mount runs, and didn't notice anything was quite wrong until I'm like ... where's Darkweaver Syth, isn't he supposed to be here? LOL |
| 14:25.08 | Amarande | Fisker: daily quests reset at one time, heroics reset at another |
| 14:25.28 | Amarande | and, to add more to it (although I don't get up early enough normally for it to matter), now your crops grow at a third time, heh |
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| 14:27.28 | Amarande | also this is strange. every time I land in a new zone on my mage, I'm getting an error from an unknown source of "I can't use that item yet" |
| 14:27.47 | Amarande | doesn't happen on my other characters |
| 14:28.24 | Fisker | probably pet |
| 14:29.15 | Amarande | also sometimes even happens with regular movement, I'm flying on my mount between Blade's Edge and Netherstorm and just got it too |
| 14:29.28 | Amarande | will see if it happens in Pandaria, although I don't think it did there |
| 14:37.39 | Amarande | hmmmm |
| 14:37.50 | Amarande | happens when I first arrive in Pandaria from elsewhere, but not, it seems, when transitioning between zones within Pandaria |
| 14:38.19 | Amarande | wonder if it's some oddball glitch to do with server transitions due to CRZ |
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| 14:40.38 | Amarande | whatever item is claiming to be "not ready yet" is obviously something that isn't activated by the player, as I've never seen an item spontaneously go on CD while zone transitioning, either |
| 14:40.58 | Amarande | suspecting trinkets. not sure. |
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| 14:46.36 | Amarande | trinkets would explain why it doesn't happen on other characters, and it being "not ready yet" might have something to do with that they're Equip: proc trinkets, and not actually *meant to* be specifically activated, but I'm not sure why crossing a CRZ boundary would cause the game to try to activate them in that case :S |
| 14:48.48 | karl_w_w | pets Amarande |
| 14:49.03 | karl_w_w | they resummon when u cross a crz border |
| 14:49.11 | karl_w_w | sometimes they try to do it more than once |
| 14:50.58 | Amarande | karl: I have neither a companion pet out nor am I a class/spec that owns a pet |
| 14:51.28 | Amarande | also, why would pets say "item" is not ready yet? that's odd. |
| 14:52.58 | karl_w_w | dunno then |
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| 15:01.45 | karl_w_w | i just watched clint eastwood pretend to be effeminate |
| 15:01.50 | karl_w_w | it was very disturbing |
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| 17:54.27 | karl_w_w | hey Fisker |
| 17:54.33 | karl_w_w | I hope I don't die today |
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| 18:14.10 | Semlar | mikma: what's up |
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| 18:31.04 | mikma | semlar: Ironforge GetRealZoneText() is different than the one stored in Name2ID :DDDD |
| 18:31.19 | Semlar | try just GetZoneText |
| 18:31.24 | mikma | semlar: stored name is "Ironforge City" and GetRealZoneText() returns "City of Ironforge" |
| 18:31.25 | Semlar | see if that matches |
| 18:31.57 | Semlar | it should be one of them |
| 18:32.15 | mikma | also |
| 18:32.20 | mikma | dalaran has two id's |
| 18:32.36 | Semlar | one of them is a scenario |
| 18:32.39 | mikma | GetZoneText() = "City of Ironforge" |
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| 18:32.56 | mikma | the one, scenario, is the one you get with your code |
| 18:33.05 | mikma | the one that's the real deal ain't in the list at all |
| 18:34.03 | Semlar | dalaran's area id is 504 |
| 18:34.18 | Semlar | wait |
| 18:34.21 | Semlar | no that's it's map id |
| 18:34.22 | mikma | ye |
| 18:34.23 | Semlar | hang on |
| 18:36.04 | Semlar | oh, yeah it's because i just used your table as an example |
| 18:36.20 | Semlar | i didn't look up the area ids myself |
| 18:37.22 | mikma | that propably has nothing to do with the fact that GetAreaMaps() still returns Dalaran as 924 |
| 18:37.35 | Semlar | you shouldn't be using that code |
| 18:37.38 | mikma | unless the code you gave overwrites |
| 18:37.56 | Semlar | the first one i posted overwrote the old entry with a new one if it had the same name |
| 18:37.57 | mikma | hmm most likely need to swap the zone id and title |
| 18:38.08 | mikma | yeah that's the problem exactly |
| 18:38.29 | Semlar | i posted a fix pretty soon after that that took into account if the key already existed |
| 18:38.42 | Semlar | i think pretty much all of the ones you want are the first entry for a given name |
| 18:38.49 | Semlar | that's a horrible thing to assume though |
| 18:39.17 | Semlar | i thought you only wanted the ids for the cities |
| 18:39.29 | mikma | by the time i was able to relook at the links, they were already gone |
| 18:40.33 | Semlar | http://www.wowpedia.org/MapID this has a lot of the in-game area ids for the maps |
| 18:40.52 | Semlar | which they've unfortunately called MapIDs |
| 18:41.27 | Semlar | there are so many different ids for a map it gets very confusing |
| 18:42.47 | Semlar | the game actually gives me "ironforge" not ironforge city for GetMapNameByID |
| 18:43.07 | Semlar | i'm not there so i don't know what the zone text is |
| 18:44.10 | mikma | i decided to go with the SetMapToCurrentZone() ^^ |
| 18:44.25 | mikma | just check if WorldMapFrame:IsVisible() ;) |
| 18:45.21 | Semlar | that's what i'd do |
| 18:46.30 | mikma | it's the only way to do it reliably I know the alliance zone id's now ;P |
| 18:46.32 | Semlar | practically everything is based off the map not the player's position anyway so i've just accepted that and rather than try and force it i code like they do |
| 18:46.56 | Semlar | unless i really need to know what zone a player is in for some reason |
| 18:49.41 | ccox | Sigh. At what point does a defect go from "long standing bug" to "tradition"? |
| 18:51.29 | Semlar | i call it feature creep |
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| 19:00.14 | karl_w_w | sometimes it's just depressing living in a place where leaving the butter out to soften results in liquid butter instead of just soft butter |
| 19:00.32 | Semlar | mmm liquid butter |
| 19:00.48 | Semlar | well on the bright side you have something for your popcorn |
| 19:01.02 | Semlar | mikma: http://i.imgur.com/xiDKKJ1.jpg |
| 19:01.41 | karl_w_w | stuff like that illustrates just how cartoony wow is :P |
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| 19:01.58 | Semlar | oh yeah the color changes between zones are crazy |
| 19:02.44 | karl_w_w | it's not like we didn't know that already, but just seeing it like that |
| 19:02.50 | karl_w_w | and the colours themselves |
| 19:02.53 | Semlar | you think it looks better as purely satellite images or if it transferred between the map overlays to those as you zoom in |
| 19:03.00 | karl_w_w | nagrand is positively flourescent |
| 19:03.47 | Semlar | assuming i just put my own labels on everything |
| 19:04.22 | Semlar | it would be more like google earth |
| 19:04.50 | karl_w_w | i like the real textures |
| 19:04.55 | karl_w_w | for everything |
| 19:05.57 | Semlar | with the overlays it would look more like this http://i.imgur.com/TOSi6.jpg until you zoomed in closer |
| 19:07.07 | Semlar | if i ONLY do satellite images it would actually greatly simplify things |
| 19:07.28 | karl_w_w | it looks weird with overlays :P |
| 19:07.49 | Semlar | http://i.imgur.com/tqsMU.jpg |
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| 19:34.10 | Semlar | karl_w_w: http://i.imgur.com/7GnNb4E.jpg |
| 19:35.01 | Semlar | i'm sure that looks weird but it's a start |
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| 19:38.07 | Semlar | mikma: http://i.imgur.com/uCRJu7G.jpg |
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| 19:41.38 | mikma | semlar: keh |
| 19:42.02 | Semlar | http://i.imgur.com/AxuBTgB.jpg without the lines |
| 19:43.01 | mikma | semlar: i'm having *weird* lag issues with my code :D |
| 19:43.25 | Semlar | oh? |
| 19:43.42 | mikma | semlar: http://pastebin.com/M8FfNbdc <- try running that and zone in and out of town |
| 19:43.49 | Semlar | oh you might want to be careful with your setmaptocurrentzone stuff |
| 19:44.06 | Semlar | depending on what you call that in response to it could be bad |
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| 19:44.28 | mikma | oh lord |
| 19:44.33 | Semlar | yeah that causes the event you're responding to |
| 19:44.36 | Semlar | so |
| 19:44.51 | mikma | how in the bloody hell |
| 19:44.55 | Semlar | infinite loop |
| 19:45.06 | mikma | how's this even doable damnit |
| 19:45.24 | zenzelezz | one does not simply SetMapToCurrentZone |
| 19:45.35 | Semlar | it's not too complicated |
| 19:45.44 | karl_w_w | why waiting if the map is visible? |
| 19:45.58 | Semlar | he doesn't want to force it to change if the map is open |
| 19:46.01 | mikma | thanks boromir |
| 19:46.16 | mikma | hmm |
| 19:46.17 | mikma | i wonder |
| 19:46.25 | karl_w_w | just change the map back after ur done if it's visible |
| 19:46.45 | Semlar | there's actually a way to change the map without it updating the map while it's visible |
| 19:47.01 | Semlar | there's a setting inside the world map lua file that lets it ignore changes |
| 19:47.12 | Semlar | i just don't remember what it's called off the top of my head |
| 19:47.21 | mikma | semlar: hah, you know, the map automatically zooms back to the currnt zone when you close it |
| 19:48.51 | Seerah | Cairenn|afk: http://themetapicture.com/animals-should-always-stay-in-their-baby-form/ |
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| 19:50.02 | Semlar | i think what i was doing was watching for the zone events and then forcing setmaptocurrentzone |
| 19:50.24 | mikma | there's couple of ZONE events |
| 19:50.33 | Semlar | because the map was refusing to change when i would walk into the cleft from orgrimmar |
| 19:50.47 | Semlar | oh it would cause a world_map_update event, but it wouldn't change the map |
| 19:51.13 | Semlar | i had to force it |
| 19:51.41 | Semlar | something about moving between levels of a map without actually changing zones |
| 19:53.02 | Semlar | probably nothing that you'll need to worry about |
| 19:55.25 | Semlar | this was for my minimap addon and i needed to know the size of the map the player was on or i couldn't scale it correctly |
| 19:56.09 | Semlar | walking from orgrimmar into the cleft and having it continue to display the orgrimmar map was making it use orgrimmar's dimensions |
| 20:00.33 | Semlar | i'm having some issues with rotating the coordinates properly but i'm attempting to place the indoor minimap textures for a building onto the map itself |
| 20:01.10 | Semlar | at least for places like ironforge |
| 20:01.24 | Semlar | since the whole thing is one building |
| 20:02.04 | Semlar | the terrain map is pretty much useless since it shows the outside of a mountain |
| 20:08.05 | karl_w_w | <Semlar> there's a setting inside the world map lua file that lets it ignore changes <- betting that it bugs the map? |
| 20:09.35 | Semlar | they use it when they toggle the window size to prevent it from updating mid-scale |
| 20:09.59 | Semlar | and i think some other places |
| 20:10.10 | Semlar | it's WorldMapFrame.blockWorldMapUpdate = true (do some stuff) WorldMapFrame.blockWorldMapUpdate = nil |
| 20:10.35 | Semlar | and while it's blocked it will ignore world map updates |
| 20:11.13 | mikma | you know what i'm thinking about coding now |
| 20:11.26 | Semlar | a map replacement? |
| 20:11.27 | mikma | addon that you acn use to write text on actionbuttons ;) |
| 20:11.36 | mikma | no i'll leave the mapfuck up to you |
| 20:11.39 | Semlar | lol |
| 20:12.29 | Semlar | i know more about how the game's map system works than anyone has any right to |
| 20:13.01 | Semlar | such useless knowledge |
| 20:14.13 | Semlar | but great programming practice |
| 20:14.44 | Semlar | much better than just doing a series of challenges |
| 20:22.32 | mikma | semlar: oh you should meet ckknight. he knows everything about everything! |
| 20:22.58 | Semlar | everything? |
| 20:23.08 | Semlar | that's a lot of things |
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| 20:27.19 | mikma | semlar: he had a map addon like carbonite ... can't remember the name now |
| 20:27.41 | mikma | semlar: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info6403-Cartographer.html |
| 20:27.59 | mikma | hmm no, that's not it |
| 20:28.40 | Semlar | http://www.wowace.com/addons/cartographer3/ |
| 20:34.54 | mikma | that's it, it was nr.3 |
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| 21:04.21 | karl_w_w | Semlar at this point you probably know more about the map system than blizzard |
| 21:04.40 | Semlar | i'm guessing they have real tools to work with it |
| 21:04.53 | Semlar | >_> |
| 21:05.09 | karl_w_w | that's not a very nice way to describe the ui devs |
| 21:05.18 | Semlar | :O |
| 21:05.38 | karl_w_w | holy fuck i have 12 twitter interactions |
| 21:06.20 | Semlar | if they hadn't removed the ability to get the angle of the camera i could do some very interesting things |
| 21:07.41 | karl_w_w | blame avr |
| 21:08.30 | karl_w_w | i wonder if there is a different way they could break avr to give us camera info back |
| 21:08.35 | Semlar | blame it for being so awesome |
| 21:08.42 | karl_w_w | i cant think of one |
| 21:09.11 | karl_w_w | funny thing is they put a few avr type things in the game now |
| 21:10.51 | mikma | yeah |
| 21:10.58 | mikma | for spells and such in raid encounters |
| 21:53.53 | Shirik | anyone here done the insanity workout? |
| 21:54.00 | Shirik | if so, recommended?? |
| 21:54.34 | Primer | Any opinions regarding prot paladin weapon enchant? I've inspected a few. Very few have River's Song. Many just have windsong or colossus. They just cheap? |
| 21:55.52 | foxlit | colossus breaks if you sneeze on it; nobody should be using that enchant for anything. |
| 21:57.35 | Primer | yeah, it does seem pretty cheesy |
| 22:02.34 | Iriel | Bah, lua has broken me for other scripting languages |
| 22:02.57 | Iriel | Specifically picking the right data structure for small tuples. |
| 22:03.39 | foxlit | wait, data structures actually exist? :) |
| 22:04.04 | Iriel | [ 1, 2, 3 ] versus { id = 1, type = 2, value = 3 } 8-) |
| 22:05.53 | Shirik | The other day I created an amazing system in Lua to allow us to define messages in a protocol we use |
| 22:06.13 | Shirik | Mimicks creating data structures in other languages |
| 22:06.36 | Shirik | Lua is a beautiful language |
| 22:07.03 | Shirik | corrolary: no other scripting languages should exist |
| 22:07.12 | Iriel | I'm not sure I'd go THAT far |
| 22:07.15 | Iriel | but it IS a beautiful language |
| 22:07.38 | Iriel | I've been playing with node.js a bit recently - it's interesting but periodically frustrating |
| 22:43.54 | Shadowed | My experience with Node was that it was kind of interesting, but the library support is god awful |
| 22:44.14 | Shadowed | and for async stuff, Python/Ruby tend to have good support at this point and a better library system |
| 22:44.23 | Iriel | It seems to be improving (library wise), the problem is there's frequently N libraries to solve a problem, some proportion of them are broken. |
| 22:44.29 | Iriel | But it's still sort of fun/interesting. |
| 22:46.03 | Arrowmaster | the N libraries to solve a problem with 75% of them either being broken or abandoned is common for most popular languages |
| 22:46.55 | Iriel | popular ^^AND NEW^^ languages |
| 22:47.14 | Iriel | More mature languages tend to provide an ecosystem in which the libraries are more heavily curated |
| 22:48.39 | Arrowmaster | true |
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| 23:05.55 | Gnarfoz | [22:55:49] <foxlit> colossus breaks if you sneeze on it; nobody should be using that enchant for anything. <-- except, it's very good with exp cap + haste gear |
| 23:06.26 | foxlit | Isn't it supposed to trigger regardless of whether you hit or miss? |
| 23:06.55 | Gnarfoz | possibly, but you won't be stacking haste unless you're also at the exp cap anyway |
| 23:07.32 | smcn | Colossus: 6 RPPM on melee attacks that land, or are dodged, or parried, with a 3-second cooldown. |
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| 23:22.04 | kd3 | sigh, well that sucked |
| 23:22.06 | kd3 | sighs |
| 23:26.25 | Thunder_Child | So does my vacuum |
| 23:26.58 | Cairenn|afk | Seerah: :) |
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