| 00:00.29 | VIad | it seems to be 2-3 min loop |
| 00:00.37 | VIad | so extract all audio from the mpq and do a search |
| 00:00.38 | VIad | :P |
| 00:00.56 | VIad | I tried to find it and failed |
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| 00:04.41 | Xandr | Sound/Music/Pandaria/MUS_50_BottomsUp_01.mp3 |
| 00:05.04 | VIad | sound.mpq I take it |
| 00:05.05 | VIad | let me confirm |
| 00:05.30 | Xandr | no clue, I found it in bluspacecow's text file thingy with all the /script PlaySoundFile lines |
| 00:06.23 | Semlar|Laptop | what are you looking for? |
| 00:06.54 | VIad | I already looked trough the pandaria folder, maybe I missed some files :P |
| 00:06.58 | VIad | checking now |
| 00:09.57 | Neffi | wtf man |
| 00:09.57 | Neffi | http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2013/01/but-can-it-stream-crysis-nvidias-new-cloud-gaming-server-explained/ |
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| 00:10.31 | Neffi | am I the only one that isn't looking forward to companies trying to move *everything* to the cloud? |
| 00:10.39 | VIad | Semlar Gnarfoz looks after http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xI_v8Nj_tRo |
| 00:10.52 | VIad | I am anti-cloud for personal files too |
| 00:10.54 | VIad | important files :P |
| 00:11.49 | Neffi | I'm anti-cloud when it means distributing shitty embedded CPUs at ridiculous markups because "you dun need the hardware tho. we haz it all here" |
| 00:15.41 | VIad | wrong file btw, Xandr |
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| 00:20.39 | Xandr | sure? sounded a lot like that in-game |
| 00:21.44 | Xandr | hm yeah. now in direct comparison… |
| 00:22.50 | Xandr | If all else fails, https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/stormstout-brew/id561372303?i=561372387 - $1.29 :) |
| 00:24.39 | VIad | people wanna PlaySoundFile ingame |
| 00:24.40 | VIad | ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pistol_shrimp#Snapping_effect ) |
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| 00:26.39 | VIad | wow needs a debug mode that displays what files are being loaded and played by the engine, e.g. |
| 00:26.48 | Semlar|Laptop | http://semlar.com/sound.txt if this helps |
| 00:26.49 | VIad | perhaps a extention of the console interface? |
| 00:27.13 | VIad | Semlar can you generate that list only with filesize and length of the music? :P |
| 00:27.34 | Semlar|Laptop | i could look up the inn and tell you exactly what music it has |
| 00:27.40 | VIad | like "999.99MB<tab>99:99:99<tab><path>\n" |
| 00:27.41 | Semlar|Laptop | but i'm not at my computer right now |
| 00:27.45 | VIad | aw :< ok |
| 00:27.53 | VIad | you made that scanning program hehe |
| 00:28.25 | VIad | it's the inn at halfhill but the music plays other places too |
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| 01:31.43 | Semlar | vlad: http://semlar.com/sound.txt |
| 01:41.48 | Semlar | sound/music/pandaria/mus_50_toast_b_04.mp3 this is the file |
| 01:45.43 | Semlar | gnarfoz |
| 01:45.59 | Gnarfoz | Semlar: yeah, just saw it, thanks! :D |
| 01:46.11 | Semlar | if you want the mp3 i could upload it |
| 01:46.23 | Gnarfoz | no, I already extracted it |
| 01:46.26 | Semlar | alright |
| 01:46.28 | Gnarfoz | just had no idea how to find the file |
| 01:47.01 | Semlar | well that text file should have every mp3 in it |
| 01:48.05 | Semlar | more or less sorted by name |
| 01:48.32 | Semlar | there's like 4 or 5 different versions of that song in there |
| 01:48.35 | znf | ~logs |
| 01:48.35 | purl | All conversations are logged to http://purl.rikers.org/%23wowuidev/ Lines starting with spaces are not logged. Logs are updated daily. |
| 01:49.20 | Gnarfoz | Semlar: hm |
| 01:49.37 | Semlar | hm? |
| 01:50.00 | Neffi | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:50.21 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:50.39 | Neffi | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:50.51 | kd3 | it's true though |
| 01:50.59 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:51.42 | FBI | Purl may not be logging it, but we are. |
| 01:51.52 | Semlar | 23 skidoo! |
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| 02:12.56 | VIad | <3 Semlar |
| 02:13.33 | Semlar | ray casting! |
| 02:22.31 | Neffi | what of it? |
| 02:23.27 | VIad | Gnarfoz: http://vlacula.no-ip.com/MUS_50_Toast_B_04.mp3 |
| 02:23.37 | Gnarfoz | VIad: ... |
| 02:23.42 | VIad | http://vlacula.no-ip.com/MUS_51_DarkmoonFaire_MerryGoRound_01.mp3 :P |
| 02:23.55 | Gnarfoz | see above |
| 02:24.00 | VIad | I know |
| 02:24.07 | Gnarfoz | so why do you link some file |
| 02:24.18 | VIad | why not? |
| 02:29.37 | VIad | usb tethering, nice |
| 02:30.22 | VIad | Semlar: if I hear a sound I've heard in wow, but this is another game, can blizzard sue them for stealing their sound effect? :P |
| 02:30.41 | smcn | wow uses quite a few stock sound effects |
| 02:30.57 | VIad | the whelp death sound I think, I heard it in another game :P star wars |
| 02:31.18 | VIad | whelp or scorpion, can't remember exact atm |
| 02:32.43 | Neffi | this shit's fascinating http://raytracey.blogspot.com/ |
| 02:32.59 | Neffi | i can watch the renders all day |
| 02:34.06 | VIad | what was the name of that thing, "new rendering tech" that used grain of sand instead of the standard vecto drawing? |
| 02:35.00 | Neffi | voxels? |
| 02:35.06 | VIad | ah yes |
| 02:35.10 | VIad | what happened with it? |
| 02:35.10 | Neffi | I'm sure there's dozens if not thousands of engines that do it |
| 02:35.15 | Neffi | Voxels aren't new. |
| 02:35.22 | Gnarfoz | and he's not talking about voxels |
| 02:35.26 | VIad | don't you remember the company some years ago |
| 02:35.30 | Gnarfoz | he means unlimited detail |
| 02:35.33 | VIad | claimed a revolutionary tech they made |
| 02:35.35 | Neffi | oh that thing |
| 02:35.50 | VIad | but no peep from them in a long time, and just remembered about them when I saw Semlars video with triangles :P |
| 02:35.50 | Gnarfoz | and recently there was another, but I can't recall its name |
| 02:36.01 | Neffi | I'm looking at Brigade now but I can't find its page |
| 02:36.06 | Neffi | http://icelaglace.wordpress.com/2012/09/22/what-is-brigade-engine/ |
| 02:36.14 | Neffi | it looks sexy |
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| 02:41.05 | VIad | found it on youtube "Unlimited Detail Real-Time Rendering Technology Preview 2011" |
| 02:43.13 | VIad | saw the jon stewart on gun control? |
| 02:47.06 | VIad | I am talking about american stuff, surely you have something to say lol |
| 02:47.09 | VIad | and I live in norway lol : |
| 02:47.48 | Gnarfoz | no, I don't I live in Germany |
| 02:47.57 | Semlar | florida? |
| 02:48.24 | pompy1 | lol |
| 02:49.02 | pompy1 | Semlar: Germany, just like he said! |
| 02:49.14 | Semlar | they used to play a game called "germany or florida" on this radio show i listened to |
| 02:49.34 | Semlar | where people would call in with news articles and they had to guess which one it was from |
| 02:50.05 | VIad | lol what is so bad with florida? |
| 02:50.07 | Gnarfoz | easy: the ones in german are from Germany |
| 02:50.14 | Semlar | :x |
| 02:50.29 | Semlar | the ones in spanish were from florida? |
| 02:50.38 | Gnarfoz | maybe |
| 02:50.42 | Gnarfoz | <: |
| 02:51.10 | VIad | I think jon stewart was funny on the musket thing on his show :P |
| 02:51.57 | VIad | yes, I watch the daily show, a program for americans :p |
| 02:53.00 | Gnarfoz | you're a hero |
| 02:53.13 | VIad | you don't watch it? |
| 02:53.25 | Gnarfoz | does it matter? I'm making fun of you pointing out that you do |
| 02:53.53 | VIad | I wouldn't be surprised if you don't probably a million channels on tv and 95% just junk shows, hard to spot the good once :P |
| 03:00.48 | Semlar | kill your television |
| 03:01.00 | VIad | I don't watch tv |
| 03:01.07 | VIad | very rarely :P |
| 03:01.21 | VIad | maybe a month since I took a look |
| 03:04.27 | VIad | Semlar: trying to justify why I am not going to destroy my tv :P |
| 03:04.40 | Semlar | just use it as a monitor |
| 03:04.49 | VIad | it is my monitor xD |
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| 03:19.54 | VIad | http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/thu-january-10-2013/moment-of-zen---hall-of-famer-ty-cobb |
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| 04:27.04 | Ackis | happy birthday Cairenn|afk!!!!! |
| 04:33.30 | karl_w_w | http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-20990965 I lol'd |
| 05:36.17 | sintAcks | didn't blizzard or something release recently, how much it costs to run their servers a month |
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| 06:16.57 | Neffi | http://cdn.themis-media.com/media/global/images/library/deriv/58/58135.png |
| 06:17.08 | Neffi | also this is from 2011 |
| 06:17.35 | Arrowmaster | just got back from a local reddit game night, of the 9 of us there we had 3 copies of cards against humanity |
| 06:18.26 | Arrowmaster | and ive now one 2 out of 2 games of cards against humanity, does that make me a horrible person? |
| 06:18.36 | Arrowmaster | s/one/won/ |
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| 06:25.01 | Cairenn|afk | Ackis: thanks :) |
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| 09:08.23 | mikma | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKQDzpIwAMo |
| 09:17.57 | bleeter | ERMAGAHD SOMEONE BROKE WIKIPEDIA |
| 09:18.41 | Humbedooh | lies, all lies! |
| 09:23.26 | mikma | good. |
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| 10:10.48 | EthanCentaurai | mornin' all |
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| 10:19.23 | VIad | hey Semlar |
| 10:19.36 | VIad | did you notice blizz plan to remove item upgrading feature in 5.2? weird as it was released in 5.1 :P |
| 10:20.45 | bluipodcow | Why you say that? What is your evidence? |
| 10:21.01 | VIad | https://twitter.com/Ghostcrawler/status/287655171583004672 |
| 10:21.05 | VIad | http://www.mmo-champion.com/content/ |
| 10:21.16 | Mr_Rabies | they're not removing it |
| 10:21.21 | VIad | "the NPC will be removed" |
| 10:21.24 | Mr_Rabies | just 5.2 items won't be upgradable until 5.3 |
| 10:21.27 | VIad | "No gear. The NPC Is gone." |
| 10:21.36 | Mr_Rabies | hmm what |
| 10:21.48 | bluipodcow | Heh |
| 10:22.15 | bluipodcow | That's not proof and IMHO your leaping to conclusions |
| 10:22.29 | VIad | ehm |
| 10:22.42 | VIad | what else can "The NPC is gone" mean? |
| 10:22.42 | Fisker | o l d |
| 10:22.43 | VIad | :P |
| 10:22.57 | VIad | how can you missinterpret something so straight forward |
| 10:23.26 | Fisker | they're even talking about how you will keep old upgrades |
| 10:23.28 | bluipodcow | This won't be the only build that goes on the PTR |
| 10:23.42 | bluipodcow | Are you from the future ? |
| 10:23.53 | Mr_Rabies | hmmm |
| 10:23.54 | Fisker | bad troll |
| 10:24.03 | Mr_Rabies | i see them potentially changing that by 5.2 launch |
| 10:24.04 | VIad | you keep old upgrades, but the NPC is gone in 5.2 and you can't apply more upgrades :P |
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| 10:24.14 | VIad | this tweet is about 5.2 release also |
| 10:24.35 | bluipodcow | There you go assuming things again |
| 10:24.41 | VIad | lol |
| 10:24.53 | VIad | read the freaking article, blu |
| 10:24.54 | bluipodcow | Will template toons be available in live ? |
| 10:25.00 | Mr_Rabies | it's gonna open a can of worms if they remove the upgrade npc for 5.2 |
| 10:25.14 | Mr_Rabies | ghostcrawler said the npc's gone for 5.2 bluipodcow |
| 10:25.24 | Mr_Rabies | no upgrades whatsoever's the current plan |
| 10:25.25 | bluipodcow | They are on the PTR so surely that must mean they go live |
| 10:25.26 | Semlar | "ATM, we are planning on no upgrading during 5.2." |
| 10:25.39 | Mr_Rabies | other than what you've already done in 5.1 |
| 10:25.50 | Fisker | pls don't be dumb bluipodcow |
| 10:26.06 | VIad | it's like bluipodcow didn't even click my links and READ what they contained :P |
| 10:26.14 | VIad | or he just wants to be an ass and argue lol |
| 10:26.23 | Semlar | the tweet is like 3 sentences long |
| 10:26.35 | VIad | he posted 4 tweets |
| 10:26.42 | VIad | that together form a sentence with information tough :P |
| 10:27.00 | VIad | if you clicked the twitter link and read all the tweets in this "thread" |
| 10:27.08 | Semlar | why would i have to read any more than the one |
| 10:27.34 | VIad | because if you read one you will say "only one tweet doesn't have substance, why are you saying things you have no proof of Vlad?" |
| 10:27.38 | VIad | like bluipodcow |
| 10:27.55 | VIad | so I say read it all before making up your mind on the matter :P |
| 10:27.56 | bluipodcow | *shrug* |
| 10:27.57 | Semlar | .. |
| 10:27.57 | Fisker | dumb fucks will be dumb |
| 10:28.10 | VIad | like reading one page of a book and deciding upon the ending |
| 10:28.11 | Semlar | vlad i just fucking quoted "ATM, we are planning on no upgrading during 5.2." are you really going to act like i'm arguing with you |
| 10:28.19 | bleeter | how I read it was 'you won't be able to upgrade from 5.1 gear to 5.2, thus there's no need for the NPC on the PTR' but meh |
| 10:28.25 | bluipodcow | Ptrs not done yet so they mat change their minds |
| 10:28.29 | VIad | nah you aren't arguing with me Semlar, just speaking "in general" :P |
| 10:28.39 | Fisker | they may bluipodcow |
| 10:28.46 | bleeter | ie, 5.1 upgrading will remain but not on the PTR for whatever reason idk. not really reading I admit |
| 10:28.49 | VIad | personally I think the upgrade thing is a "flop" : |
| 10:28.53 | Fisker | but that doesn't change the fact that it's the current design they're going with |
| 10:29.17 | VIad | only applicable for hardcore raiders that need to be "the best" geared :P |
| 10:29.19 | bleeter | some upgrading is OK |
| 10:29.27 | bluipodcow | ATM that is |
| 10:29.35 | Fisker | yes |
| 10:29.39 | Fisker | did you read? |
| 10:29.40 | bleeter | like say waiting on a trinket drop... that never happens. reforge and upgrade can help |
| 10:29.46 | Fisker | [11:19:36] <VIad> did you notice blizz plan to remove item upgrading feature in 5.2? weird as it was released in 5.1 :P |
| 10:29.50 | Fisker | _plan_ |
| 10:29.55 | VIad | aye |
| 10:29.55 | Fisker | do you understand what that means? |
| 10:30.06 | VIad | it means definetly not going to happen? :P |
| 10:30.15 | Fisker | he mad |
| 10:30.16 | VIad | haha |
| 10:30.20 | Fisker | it means exactly what he said |
| 10:30.24 | Fisker | They're planning to remove it |
| 10:30.27 | VIad | aye |
| 10:30.34 | Fisker | they could of course change their minds |
| 10:30.36 | VIad | and I have no problem with that :3 |
| 10:31.01 | Fisker | yeah bleeter |
| 10:31.06 | Mr_Rabies | i don't think it hurts anyone to talk about the possibility of them carrying on their plans they've publically made |
| 10:31.08 | Fisker | i think they should like cut upgrade costs in half |
| 10:31.21 | Fisker | and only allow pre-current-raid-gear to be upgraded |
| 10:31.31 | VIad | I already did upgrade my crap trinket |
| 10:31.38 | VIad | btw LFR each week (not since last, gave up :P) |
| 10:31.45 | VIad | no weapon drop, no trinket drops |
| 10:31.55 | VIad | got like 4-5 items that are not better than my current items instead :3 |
| 10:32.09 | VIad | and got the 500 agi legendary weapon gem in my bags just lying around ;D |
| 10:32.18 | bleeter | quilen archy trinket reforged and upgraded saved my bacon for a while >< |
| 10:32.21 | Fisker | Would be cool if you could like take 3 coins |
| 10:32.27 | Fisker | and be guaranteed a drop from a boss |
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| 10:32.30 | Fisker | but that may be too OP |
| 10:32.32 | VIad | a specific drop :P |
| 10:32.37 | VIad | OP? |
| 10:32.40 | VIad | it's once a week |
| 10:32.44 | bleeter | the other thing about upgrading, is distinct lack of freaking wands for casters |
| 10:32.45 | VIad | and you need to farm many dailies for 3 coins |
| 10:32.55 | VIad | aren't wands crap? |
| 10:33.04 | Mr_Rabies | if a blizzard employee is making a near-timetable public plan, there's a good 90% chance of it making it into the game |
| 10:33.05 | nevcairiel | bosses dont even have that many drops for your class, just a guaranteed epic drop would be fine, item picking would be too OP |
| 10:33.24 | bleeter | VIad: I'm RP. Maces, knives, etc. on a holy priest are just wrong wrong wrong. |
| 10:33.33 | VIad | nevcairiel: as said, I already got many items that I don't need, but that are on my table in the last LFR dungeon :< so it's still a bit lame |
| 10:33.37 | Mr_Rabies | what's wrong with a mace on a holy priest, bleeter? :o |
| 10:33.41 | nevcairiel | bleeter: get a 2h staff |
| 10:33.49 | Semlar | *flips three coins* ..all tails |
| 10:34.17 | nevcairiel | VIad: its called random |
| 10:34.21 | bleeter | the real problem is said holy priest is a chanter. and as I've mentioned before chanters are stupid because they 'suddenly' forget how to make wands ~level 35 |
| 10:34.23 | VIad | I know what it is called |
| 10:34.35 | VIad | it's still annoying and is one reason I don't play for a whole week now or more :P |
| 10:34.45 | Mr_Rabies | you're a warrior for the holy light, though not a frontline warrior like a paladin |
| 10:34.49 | VIad | I cba to do raids for a "maybe this time" as it's been so many raids already without any upgrades :P |
| 10:34.55 | Mr_Rabies | i'd say a mace is perfectly fine for an rp priest |
| 10:34.56 | VIad | never seen a trinket drop from the LFR either |
| 10:35.02 | Semlar | bleeter maybe more powerful wands are too complicated to make |
| 10:35.06 | bleeter | nevcairiel: my durid got the achy staff... quite nice at level 85. wouldn't mind upgrading it either =) |
| 10:35.11 | Mr_Rabies | now, a dagger is a coward's weapon, so i could see that being an issue |
| 10:35.27 | nevcairiel | my monk as the archy dps staff, quite a nice leveling item |
| 10:35.45 | nevcairiel | i even upgraded it |
| 10:35.45 | nevcairiel | :P |
| 10:35.46 | bleeter | Semlar: I suspect the game designers got stuck on materials 'minor wood, major wood' etc and just couldn't stop giggling like schoolkids ;) |
| 10:36.01 | Semlar | it's the perfect opportunity to name more wood |
| 10:36.07 | VIad | going to help the neighbor with some heavy lifting :P |
| 10:36.26 | Semlar | they could add a wood vendor |
| 10:36.29 | Mr_Rabies | the real reason is that wands were useless for so long |
| 10:36.52 | bleeter | nevcairiel: chanted, that stick is a great way to scare the crap out of folks in non-heroic LFD ;) |
| 10:36.54 | Mr_Rabies | only now do they have any possible use |
| 10:38.48 | bleeter | I still recall how in Wrath, there was only one half decent stick of any type for feral durids available anywhere outside the dungeons. what the designers do to weapons really does make me wonder sometimes... |
| 10:39.40 | bleeter | oO http://tech.mit.edu/V132/N61/swartz.html |
| 10:39.45 | bleeter | hugs to all |
| 10:40.47 | Semlar | http://i.imgur.com/nvAQ6.jpg i may need to come up with a better way to combine areas |
| 10:40.48 | VIad | are you proud what you made him do? |
| 10:41.23 | xyphoid | bleeter: haha i did that archy staff thing for my druid on a server with no 90, it's a bit of a pain doing jade forest archie at 85 |
| 10:41.55 | nevcairiel | too many fucking mobs that aggro you |
| 10:42.00 | nevcairiel | was easy on 90 though |
| 10:42.37 | xyphoid | after i finished i found out druids have vanish now WHOOPS |
| 10:42.55 | nevcairiel | they do? |
| 10:43.01 | nevcairiel | i'm a nelf i always had vanish |
| 10:43.06 | Semlar | a vanish that doesn't drop aggro |
| 10:43.07 | Semlar | it's retarded |
| 10:43.32 | Semlar | i don't know why they didn't just make it like shadowmeld |
| 10:43.56 | xyphoid | weird, it seemed to drop aggro for me |
| 10:44.10 | xyphoid | feral incarnation right? |
| 10:44.25 | VIad | going in a sec, but what's the vanish talk? |
| 10:44.29 | Semlar | no i was talking about displacer beast |
| 10:44.32 | VIad | shadowmeld only works when ungrouped, for aggro drop |
| 10:44.41 | VIad | combat drop* |
| 10:45.01 | nevcairiel | has nothing to do with being grouped or not |
| 10:45.08 | Semlar | they have two vanishes? |
| 10:45.15 | nevcairiel | shadowmeld is a nelf racial |
| 10:45.22 | nevcairiel | nothing druid |
| 10:45.44 | VIad | nevcairiel: if I am grouped and the other guy isn't even in combat, if I am and I meld I didn't drop the combat, last time I checked... maybe I am wrong, just saying there is the possibility :P |
| 10:45.57 | Semlar | i'm not talking about shadowmeld, he said feral incarnation |
| 10:45.58 | VIad | (the other guy is near by) |
| 10:46.03 | VIad | aye |
| 10:46.18 | nevcairiel | feral incarnation allows you to prowl while in combat |
| 10:46.23 | nevcairiel | dont think it drops combat |
| 10:46.27 | VIad | hmm |
| 10:46.32 | bleeter | it does |
| 10:46.36 | Semlar | i know displacer beast doesn't |
| 10:46.38 | bleeter | it's flippin' great |
| 10:46.48 | bleeter | feral incarnation on nelf durid = awesome |
| 10:46.55 | nevcairiel | double vanish eh |
| 10:47.04 | bleeter | seperate cooldowns |
| 10:47.05 | nevcairiel | i should feral with my druid, boomkin is so fucking boring |
| 10:47.21 | Semlar | triple vanish for feral night elves in pvp apparently |
| 10:47.25 | bleeter | so if the incarnation is on cooldown, shadowmeld and wait for incarnation to be up then can move off |
| 10:47.34 | bleeter | Semlar: yar |
| 10:47.53 | VIad | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:48.12 | Semlar | and displacer beast only has a 30 second cooldown |
| 10:48.57 | Semlar | that's probably why they didn't make it drop combat |
| 10:49.19 | Fisker | hey nevcairiel |
| 10:49.31 | VIad | druid elves, ultimate "get away" ;D that's why I rolled one actually, and served me well on a PVP realm :D |
| 10:49.50 | VIad | ok, see you soon Semlar to talk about your new dbc parsing project :P |
| 10:50.25 | Semlar | cluster analysis, that's what i need |
| 10:50.46 | Semlar | i should only merge points within a set distance to each other |
| 10:51.00 | bleeter | tbh, though, I never 'got' displacer beast. seemed rather wanky to me. Guess I don't PvP enough |
| 10:51.25 | Semlar | displacer beast looks op for pvp and pretty terrible for pve |
| 10:51.57 | Semlar | since it doesn't drop aggro it seems kind of useless in pve |
| 10:52.40 | Semlar | i guess it might let you get an opener off |
| 10:53.02 | Semlar | but it's not like you'd use it while you were fighting something because of the teleport |
| 11:01.03 | Semlar | alright this is forcing me to learn entirely too much geometry |
| 11:01.24 | mikma | http://youtu.be/rSBhZUeADRs <- i shit you not |
| 11:01.27 | mikma | oh it's real |
| 11:04.03 | Semlar | if there were any sort of sport in hunting, this seems like it would ruin it |
| 11:05.33 | mikma | oh really? |
| 11:05.37 | mikma | AIMBOT IN HUNTING?!? |
| 11:06.58 | Semlar | mikma http://i.imgur.com/nvAQ6.jpg this doesn't seem right to me |
| 11:08.47 | Semlar | i'm assuming this is two areas with a bunch of space between them that i've merged |
| 12:13.35 | mikma | semlar: i'll have a look at the top area |
| 12:14.56 | Semlar | they probably both have the same area id, i'm writing a clustering algorithm to sort them by distance |
| 12:15.51 | Semlar | i think it's also the reason azuremyst looks like this http://i.imgur.com/QWpsa.jpg |
| 12:16.28 | mikma | semlar: i think that area doesn't have any "location" specified, it's a quest are from..... |
| 12:16.43 | Semlar | sholazar |
| 12:17.05 | mikma | yeah |
| 12:17.45 | Semlar | the way i have it right now, everything with the same areaid is treated as one area |
| 12:18.15 | Semlar | but i think since areas can basically be painted on wherever they want them i need to be able to split them up |
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| 12:24.05 | Semlar | mikma: basically this http://www.curseforge.com/media/images/23/788/WorldExplorer_V2.0.2_BETA_-_Carbonite_ShowALL.jpg is what the areas really look like |
| 12:24.27 | Semlar | http://i.imgur.com/a1pMD.jpg and this is mine for comparison |
| 12:25.33 | mikma | semlar: that's pretty awesome to me |
| 12:26.05 | Semlar | yeah it's pretty cool |
| 12:27.19 | Semlar | this is just from the areas directly on the terrain though, i'm not adding the ones from the objects yet |
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| 12:27.34 | Semlar | i'm not really sure how i should treat objects |
| 12:28.13 | bleeter | disdain |
| 12:28.22 | Semlar | i could either just have one set of coordinates for their center location like a POI or outline them like areas |
| 12:31.12 | Semlar | i'll probably see how it looks first |
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| 16:04.20 | Amarande | sooooo. finally going to set foot in heroics today, I think. |
| 16:04.44 | Amarande | are panda heroics relatively sedate like Wrath ones, or are they omghard like BC ones always were and Cata ones started out? |
| 16:05.25 | karl_w_w | not sure if trolling |
| 16:05.49 | Amarande | karl: this is my first 90 to actually reach the ilvl needed to enter heroics :p |
| 16:06.03 | Amarande | remember, I spent much of October and November unable to play WoW due to hardware issues. :| |
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| 16:45.06 | karl_w_w | in other words it's taken you at least a month and a half? :P |
| 16:45.47 | karl_w_w | bluspacecow is disappoint |
| 16:46.10 | bluspacecow | *sleeps on karl_w_w * |
| 16:47.03 | karl_w_w | hot |
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| 17:00.10 | karl_w_w | do we know why the mists of pandaria lifted? |
| 17:00.27 | bluspacecow | fans |
| 17:02.23 | VIad | any css people here? |
| 17:02.27 | karl_w_w | stereotype much? |
| 17:02.36 | foxlit | stop discriminating against them, Susan. |
| 17:03.01 | VIad | fine, I'll just ask instead |
| 17:03.06 | VIad | instead of discriminating :P |
| 17:03.31 | VIad | page content is lower than resolution height, any tricks to make the content part (div) make the page fill up the available height? |
| 17:05.05 | VIad | http://i50.tinypic.com/22cget.png |
| 17:05.08 | VIad | ideas? |
| 17:05.13 | karl_w_w | sounds like you're doin it rong |
| 17:05.34 | Semlar | set the height of html and body to 100% |
| 17:05.54 | Elkano | min-height? |
| 17:05.57 | karl_w_w | are you hoping more content will just write itself to fill the space? :P |
| 17:05.58 | foxlit | which wouldn't fix things. |
| 17:06.12 | foxlit | I mean, sure, you clould min-height: 100% everything. |
| 17:06.30 | foxlit | But that breaks as soon as you have a header. |
| 17:06.31 | Semlar | well after html and body have a height you can set the bottom of the element to the bottom of the screen |
| 17:06.46 | Semlar | otherwise it has no height |
| 17:07.01 | VIad | the html itself doesn't go all the way down |
| 17:07.03 | VIad | so that's first :P |
| 17:07.31 | Semlar | http://semlar.com/portfolio/ |
| 17:07.49 | karl_w_w | your portfolio is broken |
| 17:08.09 | Semlar | http://semlar.com/portfolio/css3.html |
| 17:08.17 | VIad | you use absolute position |
| 17:09.13 | karl_w_w | http://i50.tinypic.com/15z38yw.png |
| 17:09.18 | karl_w_w | second link looks the same |
| 17:09.20 | VIad | the idea is that if too little content, the page will always fill out the space on the bottom by expanding the content div :P |
| 17:09.29 | VIad | ye but the second link is pure css |
| 17:09.31 | Semlar | that's how it's supposed to look |
| 17:09.32 | VIad | background ;) |
| 17:09.35 | Semlar | it doesn't have any content |
| 17:09.40 | VIad | aye |
| 17:10.06 | Semlar | it's not actually supposed to be seen by anyone |
| 17:10.06 | foxlit | And because it doesn't have any content, you don't see what happens when the content doesn't fit vertically |
| 17:10.34 | karl_w_w | ^ |
| 17:10.44 | Semlar | well, i do actually because i have a complete version of the template somewhere else |
| 17:10.56 | bluspacecow | *sleeps on vlad* |
| 17:11.02 | Semlar | but that's not the point |
| 17:11.03 | VIad | why bluspacecow? :p |
| 17:11.10 | bluspacecow | i sleepy :( |
| 17:11.15 | bluspacecow | *drools in sleep* |
| 17:11.18 | VIad | its only 1810 :< |
| 17:11.27 | Semlar | it was an example for aligning things with the edge of the screen |
| 17:11.28 | bluspacecow | 0611 here |
| 17:12.04 | Semlar | you set html and body to 100% height and then set the min-height of your element to 100% |
| 17:12.21 | Semlar | every parent has to have a height or it won't work |
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| 17:15.47 | VIad | hmm the footer is a child of the parent that needs to be 100% so gotta move it out :D |
| 17:17.25 | Semlar | you shouldn't have to move anything |
| 17:20.05 | VIad | Semlar: http://vlacula.no-ip.com/terje/om-oss/ |
| 17:20.12 | VIad | apply the 100% height to #page element :P |
| 17:21.46 | VIad | I'll try another approach |
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| 17:22.50 | karl_w_w | http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/1249530-I-should-have-bought-a-Mac?p=19799822&viewfull=1#post19799822 rofl |
| 17:23.39 | VIad | "your computer, it should "just work" right out of the box" |
| 17:23.41 | Semlar | because you gave "main" 100% height |
| 17:23.42 | VIad | I likey |
| 17:24.02 | VIad | (actually I was playing with it and reverted just now, you probably saw me messing around :P) |
| 17:24.14 | Semlar | i mean "primary" not main |
| 17:24.18 | VIad | shame there is no "fill-available" |
| 17:24.51 | Semlar | actually no both of them |
| 17:25.02 | Semlar | footer is outside main and if main has 100% height then it's going to push it down |
| 17:25.28 | VIad | I can put footer in main easily |
| 17:28.43 | VIad | but I ended up with results eating the content when I make it too narrow ;D |
| 17:45.01 | karl_w_w | any1 else not taken down their christmas tree yet? :P |
| 17:45.50 | nevcairiel | i can truthfully say that i have not taken down a christmas tree |
| 17:46.38 | nevcairiel | not that i even had one |
| 17:47.04 | Elkano | I've been collecting them around town today... |
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| 17:52.53 | karl_w_w | people still buy real trees? |
| 17:53.07 | karl_w_w | have they not been told about plastic? :P |
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| 17:54.03 | syllios | Hey guys, I was wondering if there's some sort of frame transformation that allows for the two bottom corners to be skewed? |
| 17:54.24 | syllios | I can't seem to find anything about it. |
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| 18:05.27 | syllios | anybody? |
| 18:06.24 | Semlar | i'm not sure what you mean |
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| 18:07.19 | Semlar | if you want to skew a texture use SetTexCoords |
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| 18:07.29 | Semlar | you can't.. skew a frame that doesn't really make any sense |
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| 18:08.09 | syllios__ | Why doesn't it make any sense? it's a 2D object... |
| 18:08.24 | Semlar | there's nothing to see |
| 18:08.33 | syllios__ | with a texture |
| 18:08.39 | Semlar | you skew the texture |
| 18:08.51 | syllios__ | then say that from the start, geez. |
| 18:08.55 | Semlar | i'm assuming you didn't get that message since you keep rejoining the chat |
| 18:09.02 | Semlar | [13:06]Semlarif you want to skew a texture use SetTexCoords |
| 18:09.28 | syllios__ | Safari keeps crashing, some damn bug when i look up "lua table naming scheme" and opening a new tab |
| 18:09.45 | Thunder_Child | Well, you are using safari.... |
| 18:09.56 | Semlar | it's probably a feature |
| 18:10.28 | syllios__ | what you ppl use IE? or firefox? |
| 18:10.41 | Semlar | i use firefox |
| 18:10.53 | Semlar | but irc doesn't have to be part of the browser |
| 18:10.59 | Seerah | for future reference, don't get huffy when you're having crashing issues and are missing things said in chat ;) |
| 18:11.32 | Semlar | i can still be huffy though right? |
| 18:11.36 | Seerah | sure |
| 18:11.38 | syllios__ | firefox scores low on HTML5 rendering and scripting test compared to the webkit engine |
| 18:12.16 | Semlar | well at least it doesn't crash |
| 18:12.18 | End_ | somehow I'd think I'd prefer a browser that doesn't crash :< |
| 18:12.32 | syllios__ | lol i was about to say "but at least it doesn't crash" |
| 18:12.33 | Semlar | >_> |
| 18:12.52 | Seerah | I use Chrome, myself |
| 18:12.55 | Thunder_Child | gets huffy at Seerah |
| 18:13.05 | Seerah | ~lart Thunder_Child |
| 18:13.05 | purl | shoots Thunder_Child in the head |
| 18:13.11 | syllios__ | Na, it's happened to me before, it's probably a faulty tab preference in the prefs folder ill fix it later... |
| 18:13.15 | Seerah | runs off to make nachos with hubby :D |
| 18:13.24 | Thunder_Child | glares at Seerah |
| 18:14.25 | syllios__ | tex* |
| 18:41.07 | Seerah | glares back at Thunder_Child while she munches on a nacho |
| 18:57.39 | Thunder_Child | glare is stronger since he is munching on fresh pizza |
| 18:58.09 | Seerah | :) |
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| 20:38.33 | kd3 | and now... it's "adventures in thermal compound... guest starring: a usb wifi stick that freezes the system when plugged in!" |
| 20:38.43 | kd3 | sighs |
| 20:39.16 | karl_w_w | those linux getting you down? |
| 20:40.50 | kd3 | eh, more like I'm impressed that after swapping out a mobo it still booted fine modulo not putting enough thermal compound on my new processor/heatsink |
| 20:41.58 | kd3 | but at least I have more goodies under the hood now... a gigabyte ga-z77x-d3h running an i5-3570k with 16gb of ram |
| 20:42.04 | kd3 | just need a new graphics card now |
| 20:43.12 | kd3 | don't think an 8600GT's going to cut it any more |
| 20:43.32 | nevcairiel | the igpu in your system might beat that one :D |
| 20:43.33 | Semlar | time to step it up to the 8800 |
| 20:47.05 | bleeter | kd3: go on, rush out the door and get a new gfx card today! |
| 20:47.22 | bleeter | is merely encouraging kd3 to do so on the offchance it'll 'break' next week when F18 comes out ;) |
| 20:48.36 | Thunder_Child | nevcairiel: no might about it.... |
| 20:48.54 | nevcairiel | i cant say i have compared a HD4000 against a 8600 |
| 20:49.36 | Semlar | i can tell you my laptop's ivy i5 does not beat my desktop's 8800 in terms of graphics performance on the windows index |
| 20:50.06 | Thunder_Child | is ivy 2 or 3 series? |
| 20:50.08 | Semlar | 3 |
| 20:50.26 | nevcairiel | well 8800 is quite different to 8600 =p |
| 20:51.03 | nevcairiel | and yeah ivy is 3rd generation "Core i" |
| 20:51.08 | kd3 | hahaha; https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/response/isnt-petition-response-youre-looking |
| 20:52.15 | Semlar | http://i.imgur.com/6xQFo.jpg that's my laptop |
| 20:52.30 | bleeter | "The Administration does not support blowing up planets." hmmmm |
| 20:53.49 | bleeter | also, their 'exploited by a one man starship' is false. it was a one man one droid starship, with assistance from a two-manned fighter-bomber-transport |
| 20:53.59 | kd3 | but wow. the stock cooler's doing a hell of a job... my old q6600 was running in the upper 40s, the 3570k's idling at 34 |
| 20:54.25 | bleeter | conclusion: your administration is lying to you and they are already building a death star |
| 20:55.01 | Thunder_Child | bleeter: that still count's as a droid is not a man |
| 20:55.31 | Thunder_Child | s/t's/ts,/ |
| 20:55.45 | Ressy | kd3: Q6600 stock cooler sucked tho. |
| 20:56.03 | Ressy | mine went into the garbage. lol |
| 20:57.35 | Amarande | I've never had trouble with the Arctic Silver |
| 20:57.42 | Amarande | on the other hand, the damned stock heatsinks on Intel processors = ugh |
| 20:57.50 | Amarande | I MUCH prefer the AMD clip structure to the Intel peg one |
| 20:59.14 | Semlar | *snap* |
| 20:59.18 | VIad | Semlar: how's the zone thingy going? |
| 20:59.43 | Semlar | um, i gave up trying to write an efficient clustering algorithm |
| 21:00.02 | VIad | hmm |
| 21:00.07 | VIad | can you provide me with the data? |
| 21:00.11 | VIad | like |
| 21:00.25 | VIad | ungoro thingy :P |
| 21:00.25 | Semlar | one area can have as many as 12000 points |
| 21:00.33 | bleeter | Thunder_Child: ok, well still needed assist from the fighter-bomber-transport to get the main persuer off his tail |
| 21:00.52 | VIad | can you share only the subzone in ungoro that has 2 places and your map draw a line between those 2 places incorrectly :< |
| 21:00.57 | VIad | if its too much work nvm ;P |
| 21:01.10 | VIad | (makers terrace thingy something) |
| 21:01.32 | bleeter | Thunder_Child: but the whole plot ended up totally stupid anyways. The 'all powerful' Vader should've identified his daughter in the opening scenes... |
| 21:01.46 | bleeter | (opening scenese of 'a new hope') |
| 21:02.01 | bleeter | scenes... damnit where'd that spelling come from aargh |
| 21:04.30 | bleeter | if I had enough money, I'd buy up all the star wars IP and rename it 'when retcon goes bad, real bad' |
| 21:04.37 | Amarande | oooh, this guy is a jerk |
| 21:04.47 | Amarande | going around daily areas with a PvP flag on |
| 21:05.03 | Amarande | probably just waiting for people to have errant AoE hit him so they get flagged and he can kill them heh |
| 21:05.05 | bleeter | pfft that's not a jerk |
| 21:05.14 | Stanzilla | aoe does not flag |
| 21:06.22 | bleeter | being a stealthed flagged hunter in newbie areas on a PvE realm with newbie area pet... that's being a jerk (when I looked the other day, player nameplate yellow but pet nameplat red) |
| 21:06.41 | bleeter | was highly amused |
| 21:07.53 | bleeter | bah where's zootfizzle when I have a genius of an Apr 1st idea for him... |
| 21:09.07 | nevcairiel | why would he care |
| 21:09.22 | Semlar | maybe it involves sprockets |
| 21:09.42 | bleeter | a near infinite amount of sprockets, yes |
| 21:14.01 | kd3 | ooh, crap. I just realized... I don't have a serial port now... can't control my directv receiver |
| 21:14.05 | kd3 | wonders where his remote is |
| 21:14.21 | Semlar | wherever you left it probably |
| 21:14.49 | Semlar | have you checked your freezer |
| 21:15.10 | bleeter | IT'S BEHIND YOU |
| 21:15.12 | nevcairiel | stuff still comes with serial ports? |
| 21:15.18 | nevcairiel | i got a usb to serial adapter ages ago |
| 21:15.33 | nevcairiel | needed one to flash firmwares onto some switches |
| 21:15.49 | kd3 | there's a COMA header on the board. should be able to hook something up to that |
| 21:16.30 | bleeter | if it's not behind you, it's fallen behind the couch |
| 21:16.35 | bleeter | s/couch/sofa/ |
| 21:16.50 | bleeter | or the dog ate it |
| 21:17.08 | VIad | s/// |
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| 21:33.15 | kd3 | eesh. it's cold in denver for the first game |
| 21:39.54 | zenzelezz | http://i.qkme.me/3sjf3r.jpg |
| 21:40.19 | nevcairiel | i dont get it |
| 21:42.30 | zenzelezz | I don't know the full story sadly, but the picture amused me anyway. Think there was something about him typing glhf in a match in Korea, which apparently didn't go so well. Not sure if it put him behind or whatever, only saw tweets about it |
| 21:48.59 | Dagmar | how dare he suggest someone have fun playing a game!? |
| 21:49.07 | Dagmar | What kind of sick fucks do they let into those things, anyway? |
| 21:50.49 | zenzelezz | now I don't know if there is a %t or something similar in SC2 chat, but I like how Stephano always "gl,hf <name>", where most players don't bother with the name |
| 21:52.05 | foxlit | there isn't. |
| 21:52.16 | foxlit | besides, it'd be gl,hf llllllllllllllllllllll if there were |
| 21:52.31 | zenzelezz | on ladders perhaps |
| 21:52.38 | zenzelezz | in tournaments they seem to use names |
| 21:56.39 | karl_w_w | ah you can play wow over vnc, but only if wow is running before the vnc session starts |
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| 22:00.11 | cbreak | why not locally? |
| 22:00.24 | cbreak | that'd be likely more efficient :) |
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| 22:09.26 | foxlit | http://www.wowpedia.org/File:Icon-addon-48x48.png << we currently use this icon for all sorts of addon-related tags. Does the icon itself make sense, or is there a better metaphor for addons than a command line prompt? |
| 22:09.52 | Neffi | I recognize UI shit by the cogwheel icon |
| 22:10.04 | Neffi | unintentional ping =| |
| 22:10.35 | Neffi | But that seems entirely reasonable. I think anything "technology related" would be recognizable as denoting UI shit. |
| 22:10.55 | Neffi | s/shit/stuff/ |
| 22:11.00 | Neffi | should really kick the habit. |
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| 22:23.48 | Humbedooh | VIad: the Humbedooh had other engagements :) |
| 22:24.11 | VIad | hejsann |
| 22:24.20 | Humbedooh | hello hello |
| 22:25.50 | Neffi | new in 5.2: Cooldown:SetBlingDuration |
| 22:26.11 | Neffi | we can now give our cooldown addons bling |
| 22:26.22 | End_ | heh |
| 22:36.02 | Amarande | I'm still trying to figure out how much longer MoP has after 5.2 |
| 22:36.19 | Amarande | since TKI fills in the map, are we going to Orgrimmar for 5.3 and ending the expansion? |
| 22:36.57 | Amarande | or is there something else that's still to come in between in the MoP storyline (though I can't imagine what else without radical alterations to the world, unless the Vashj'ir raid canceled in 4.1 finally makes it in) |
| 22:40.42 | Neffi | Every expansion thus far has lasted 2 years or close to it |
| 22:42.16 | nevcairiel | classic was longer, i believe |
| 22:42.45 | nevcairiel | or maybe not |
| 22:43.01 | nevcairiel | felt longer though! |
| 22:43.34 | End_ | it definitely felt long |
| 22:43.38 | End_ | they had a lot of patches too |
| 22:43.45 | nevcairiel | yeah went to 1.12 |
| 22:43.52 | zenzelezz | Was roughly two years, two months on US, two years on EU? |
| 22:43.59 | nevcairiel | about that,yes |
| 22:44.02 | Neffi | Classic was very long |
| 22:44.10 | zenzelezz | BC was Jan 2007 I believe |
| 22:44.16 | zenzelezz | so it wasn't actually that long |
| 22:44.18 | nevcairiel | it was still only 2 years |
| 22:44.21 | Neffi | which would make classic 3 years |
| 22:44.25 | zenzelezz | no |
| 22:44.31 | nevcairiel | EU classic was released february 2005 |
| 22:44.33 | zenzelezz | classic was very late 2004 US, early 2005 EU |
| 22:44.33 | Neffi | well, ~2.5 |
| 22:44.38 | nevcairiel | US nov 2004 |
| 22:44.44 | nevcairiel | so its 2 years 2 month |
| 22:44.47 | Neffi | hmm. seems earlier |
| 22:57.09 | Thunder_Child | rabble rabble rabble |
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