| 00:02.52 | VIad | "The integrated StreamBoost QoS engine intelligently prioritizes bandwidth to make lag and buffering a thing of the past. StreamBoost manages your connection automatically, or gives you the power to manually route more bandwidth to a specific activity ..." |
| 00:03.01 | VIad | is this really a issue? :D |
| 00:03.15 | Ressy | with people who don't know how to set up QoS... yeah |
| 00:03.20 | Ressy | unfortunately. |
| 00:03.42 | VIad | if I lag it's not like it's exclusive to my machine or that specific game only :3 |
| 00:04.11 | VIad | my QoS is disabled on my router, I got the DI-524UP, old router :D |
| 00:04.58 | VIad | just seems expensive |
| 00:05.06 | VIad | that router, http://www.dlink.com/us/en/home-solutions/connect/routers/dgl-5500-gaming-router |
| 00:10.16 | TC-work | The only thing i have every found QoS to really be needed for is VOIP. |
| 00:10.19 | Mr_Rabies | it's just QoS as marketing |
| 00:10.22 | Mr_Rabies | it's useful for me |
| 00:10.30 | Mr_Rabies | because i have 3 mbit internet :| |
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| 00:10.49 | TC-work | By yourself? |
| 00:11.10 | Mr_Rabies | being able to limit steam's bandwidth is useful |
| 00:11.21 | TC-work | eh, If i was sharing it with people I think i would do capped vlans anyway |
| 00:11.24 | Mr_Rabies | so that my connection doesn't get totally choked every time an update's out |
| 00:12.43 | Mr_Rabies | argh |
| 00:13.04 | Mr_Rabies | i think for the sake of my sanity, if i ever leave my guild i should probably just pony up a couple hundred bucks and transfer somewhere else |
| 00:13.41 | Mr_Rabies | this battlegroup causes me so much grief every single day |
| 00:14.15 | TC-work | And yet, you stay |
| 00:15.22 | Mr_Rabies | because i can't really drop a couple hundred bucks on transferring :( |
| 00:15.40 | Mr_Rabies | i'll honestly probably quit playing before that happens |
| 00:15.51 | Mr_Rabies | as do most people, i suspect |
| 00:16.26 | Adys | Cairenn: happy bday |
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| 00:16.36 | Cairenn | Thanks Adys :) |
| 00:16.49 | Cairenn | Still another 5 hrs here, until, but yeah |
| 00:17.02 | Adys | Cairenn: The big 5-0 isn't it? |
| 00:17.04 | Adys | (DONT HIT ME) |
| 00:17.10 | Cairenn | :p |
| 00:17.12 | Cairenn | No |
| 00:17.21 | A-KO | ok |
| 00:17.22 | A-KO | so |
| 00:17.25 | Cairenn | Do I really look that old to you? |
| 00:17.57 | Adys | .. which answer doesn't earn me a kick in the nuts? |
| 00:18.03 | TC-work | No, it's her twentieth twentieth. Get it right. |
| 00:18.04 | VIad | hard to say when all we see is your name in text :p |
| 00:18.08 | Cairenn | waits to see just how stup-brave Adys is feeling |
| 00:18.35 | TC-work | VIad: many of us have met Cairenn in person. |
| 00:18.41 | Cairenn | VIad: there are more than enough pics of me floating around now |
| 00:18.48 | Cairenn | (much to my disgust) |
| 00:18.53 | VIad | I don't facebook :( |
| 00:18.57 | Adys | I've met Cairenn in person |
| 00:18.58 | TC-work | XD |
| 00:19.00 | Adys | she looks younger than me |
| 00:19.01 | Adys | :( |
| 00:19.04 | TC-work | Yea, that |
| 00:19.07 | Cairenn | lol |
| 00:19.13 | Cairenn | good answer, Adys ;) |
| 00:19.20 | Adys | Yay |
| 00:19.24 | Adys | I girl-answered right |
| 00:19.26 | Adys | does a dance |
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| 00:19.31 | Cairenn | hehehe |
| 00:19.32 | TC-work | VIad: not on facebook, let me see if i can find one |
| 00:19.35 | Cairenn | hugs Adys |
| 00:19.51 | Cairenn | TC-work: don't look too hard :p |
| 00:19.53 | VIad | I mean, why would someone post pictures of Cairenn unless she does it herself on WoWI? :P |
| 00:20.07 | TC-work | I was going to skip the ass shots Cairenn |
| 00:20.08 | VIad | only place others can put pictures of you without your consent is like facebook sites :D |
| 00:20.14 | Cairenn | TC-work: rofl |
| 00:20.31 | Cairenn | VIad: they're pics from BlizzCon |
| 00:20.34 | VIad | ah |
| 00:20.38 | Cairenn | group pics, etc |
| 00:20.53 | VIad | then I understand |
| 00:21.52 | TC-work | Actually, I don't have them hosted anywhere anymore. And they no longer seem to be on norgannas site |
| 00:23.22 | Arrowmaster | did the pictures from last blizzcons trip to disney ever get posted? |
| 00:23.32 | Cairenn | No idea |
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| 00:41.00 | VIad | http://www.mmo-champion.com/content/ |
| 00:41.13 | VIad | isn't this like reverting the model pre-cataclysm? xD |
| 00:41.48 | VIad | it almost looks that way too :P |
| 00:42.26 | VIad | the middle structure looks different than the new "broken" one, if I have a old SW pic I can compare it to that one :P |
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| 01:00.28 | Semlar | vlad: http://i.imgur.com/vksQX.gif |
| 01:00.48 | VIad | aye semlar, nice work |
| 01:00.54 | VIad | your patched mpq system? |
| 01:01.07 | Semlar | yeah i got the patches working a while ago |
| 01:01.27 | Semlar | it turned out the stormlib documentation was just out of date |
| 01:02.54 | Semlar | i'm basically just merging everything with the same name into one area |
| 01:03.02 | Semlar | because this is very confusing |
| 01:03.05 | VIad | try extracting the dbc files |
| 01:03.15 | VIad | :3 |
| 01:03.42 | VIad | the dbc files are the ultimate test to see if your patcher works or not :P |
| 01:03.48 | Semlar | i know it works |
| 01:05.40 | Semlar | i have no idea if it'll extract the patched version or not, but i'm not extracting the files i'm just reading them inside the mpq |
| 01:06.25 | Fisker | http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/01/10/amazon-introduces-autorip-a-new-service-that-gives-mp3s-to-customers-who-bought-cds-from-amazon-within-the-last-15-years/ <-well that is about 15 years too late, but atleast you can still use it on music bought back then |
| 01:10.10 | Arrowmaster | if i knew this was coming i would have actually bought cds on my amazon account |
| 01:11.08 | Semlar | if a wmo doesn't have a name, it can inherit its name from the terrain it's on top of, its parent's name, or the area id of the parent |
| 01:13.44 | VIad | still a nice feature |
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| 02:01.13 | Neffi | where might one find a high-resolution image of the horde flag? |
| 02:01.46 | Neffi | actually nvm I can do most of this in model viewer |
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| 02:04.49 | Semlar | you can use that model directly in the game if you want |
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| 02:10.43 | Adys | Semlar: did you try the new bindings? |
| 02:10.54 | Semlar | not yet |
| 02:11.14 | bluspacecow | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:11.21 | bluspacecow | hi! |
| 02:11.23 | Semlar | why are you licking me |
| 02:11.40 | bluspacecow | because |
| 02:11.42 | Primer | sigh...is there no "return to normal stance" for druids? |
| 02:11.44 | bluspacecow | MUFFINS! |
| 02:11.50 | Primer | that can be /cast? |
| 02:11.54 | Primer | or /cancelaura'd? |
| 02:11.56 | Semlar | cancel aura? |
| 02:12.43 | bluspacecow | semlar r nommy |
| 02:12.53 | Semlar | you don't know where i've been |
| 02:13.00 | Semlar | don't put me in your mouth |
| 02:13.02 | Primer | it doesn't work |
| 02:13.12 | Primer | /cancelaura Swift Flight Form |
| 02:13.14 | Semlar | my old shifting macro could shift me out |
| 02:13.14 | Primer | does nothing |
| 02:13.31 | xyphoid | are you stuck, there does seem to be a bug with swift flight form |
| 02:13.57 | Semlar | can you shift out of other forms? |
| 02:14.12 | Primer | trying |
| 02:14.15 | xyphoid | a workaround is casting a spell like dash that forces you into another form |
| 02:14.26 | Semlar | or just cast another form and cancel it |
| 02:14.36 | Primer | that's what I currently do, but that incurs a GCD |
| 02:14.49 | Semlar | have you tried just Flight Form |
| 02:15.09 | Primer | right clicking the aura doesn't even work |
| 02:15.27 | Semlar | do you have auto dismount disabled? |
| 02:15.42 | Primer | clicking the stance bar does it, and doesn't use up a GCD |
| 02:15.48 | Primer | but I want something I can use as a macro |
| 02:16.16 | Primer | I have it enabled, but I don't even know what it does |
| 02:16.31 | Semlar | prevents you from shifting out while flying |
| 02:16.39 | Primer | I want a macro that goes "if not in normal stance, go to normal stance" |
| 02:17.30 | kd3 | ./cancelform [form] |
| 02:17.41 | kd3 | you can leave off the conditional, probably |
| 02:17.42 | Primer | did not know such a command existed |
| 02:17.48 | kd3 | http://www.wowpedia.org/Macro_API |
| 02:17.59 | Primer | lovely! |
| 02:18.07 | Primer | does exactly what I want |
| 02:19.10 | Fisker | hey Cairenn hope you don't die |
| 02:19.20 | Cairenn | heh, thanks Fisker |
| 02:22.13 | Rythal | >< why would Cairenn die... she's so young |
| 02:22.35 | bluspacecow | accidental assasination by airplane |
| 02:22.43 | kd3 | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/7593740975 |
| 02:22.47 | Cairenn | lol |
| 02:22.50 | kd3 | yay; one of my favorite beta threads comes back |
| 02:23.33 | bluspacecow | have you ever tried not killing someone with an airplane when you ram into them > |
| 02:23.35 | bluspacecow | that shits hard |
| 02:23.54 | Rythal | the easy solution... don't ram into |
| 02:23.55 | Rythal | them |
| 02:24.04 | bluspacecow | impossibru |
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| 02:33.25 | Neffi | oh god lol http://media.blizzard.com/wow/media/wallpapers/events/noblegarden/noblegarden-1920x1200.jpg |
| 02:51.38 | Amarande | LOL I can just imagine him saying "my precioussssss" |
| 02:53.15 | Ackis | Antiarc: my wife loves your authenticator (so do I) |
| 02:53.37 | Amarande | in the near future though I'm most looking forward to Lunar Festival |
| 02:53.40 | Amarande | I need the engi recipes |
| 02:54.25 | bluspacecow | Ackis wants to have the sex with the autenticator |
| 02:54.34 | Ackis | agreed |
| 02:54.55 | Semlar | access denied |
| 03:05.42 | bluspacecow | http://www.quiterly.com/20462/batman-goes-social |
| 03:05.46 | bluspacecow | LOLOLOL |
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| 03:24.00 | Fisker | hey Ackis |
| 03:30.30 | Ackis | hey Fisker |
| 03:30.38 | Fisker | hey |
| 03:31.01 | Fisker | you asked a question |
| 03:31.02 | Fisker | and i forgot it |
| 03:31.14 | Fisker | oh |
| 03:31.21 | Fisker | i remember it |
| 03:31.23 | Fisker | but nope .avi |
| 03:31.29 | Ackis | I don't remember it |
| 03:31.54 | Fisker | terrible |
| 03:32.17 | Fisker | it was about flexauth |
| 03:32.41 | Fisker | i'm about to get a bit sleepy |
| 03:32.50 | Fisker | too bad i have to get ready for work in 2 hours |
| 03:32.51 | Fisker | LOL |
| 03:48.42 | pompy | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/7592909216#17 |
| 03:49.27 | Fisker | noone really cares |
| 03:49.29 | Fisker | whoop whoop |
| 03:49.36 | Fisker | i can do stuff for PR because i'm a dick |
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| 03:56.28 | Mr_Rabies | hmmm |
| 03:56.32 | Mr_Rabies | when doing conditionals |
| 03:56.37 | Mr_Rabies | in a macro |
| 03:57.03 | Mr_Rabies | can i do like /cast [@mouseover,combat] Blah; [@mouseover] Blahblah |
| 03:57.23 | smcn | ghost iron lockbox inside a ghost iron lockbox, wat |
| 03:57.32 | Mr_Rabies | so that when i use it in combat, it hits my mouseover target with Blah, and otherwise, Blahblah |
| 03:57.35 | smcn | Mr_Rabies you should be able to yes |
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| 04:05.25 | *** topic/#wowuidev by Kaelten -> Happy Birthday Cairenn!! (in Puerto Rico) || http://pastebin.com || 5.1.x ToC: 50100 || #WoWUIDev-commits: CIA & JIRA bots reporting || Battletags: http://goo.gl/2bm7n || This channel is logged, via purl || "could be worse, you could be ridding around on a sparkle brony." ~ TC-work |
| 04:05.45 | fore-[ghost] | why would something print a message in an if statement but not set the texture? |
| 04:06.25 | Xzempt | for instance, http://pastebin.com/6indh94v , prints "test" but the textures not shown |
| 04:06.50 | Xzempt | but if i /script auraFrame:Show() it' shows the frame with the texture set |
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| 04:09.26 | Xzempt | i mistyped in that pastebin, events not spell_aura_applied, it's combat_log_event_unfiltered |
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| 04:16.51 | Cairenn | (Yes, we know the site is down, will hopefully be back up shortly) |
| 04:17.43 | bluspacecow | oh rly |
| 04:19.00 | Kaylin | covers bluspacecow in syrup. |
| 04:19.07 | bluspacecow | nommy! |
| 04:19.19 | bluspacecow | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:22.22 | Thunder_Child | it was bacon flavoured syrup |
| 04:23.29 | bluspacecow | yay! |
| 04:35.53 | Semlar | http://i.imgur.com/ACuKG.jpg o god |
| 04:36.05 | Semlar | i am not very good with computers |
| 04:53.19 | Xzempt | rofl |
| 04:53.55 | Trela | Flight points?~ |
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| 05:02.48 | Mr_Rabies | so what does everyone use nowadays to help pick out vp upgrades? :o |
| 05:03.06 | Mr_Rabies | i've been using askmrrobot mostly but i know it's far from perfect |
| 05:05.10 | Semlar | i was trying to draw borders around the subzones and i may have miscalculated something |
| 05:06.05 | *** topic/#wowuidev by Kaelten -> Happy Birthday Cairenn!! (on the East C oast) || http://pastebin.com || 5.1.x ToC: 50100 || #WoWUIDev-commits: CIA & JIRA bots reporting || Battletags: http://goo.gl/2bm7n || This channel is logged, via purl || "could be worse, you could be ridding around on a sparkle brony." ~ TC-work |
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| 05:09.27 | Semlar | like possibly the fact that if part of an area falls outside of the map border it doesn't complete the shape |
| 05:11.43 | Rythal | Happy 23rd birthday Cairenn!!!!!! |
| 05:11.54 | Cairenn | lol |
| 05:11.56 | Cairenn | Thanks Rythal |
| 05:12.24 | Torhal | Cairenn: You said you were 19. |
| 05:12.39 | Mr_Rabies | she doesn't look a day over 17 |
| 05:12.44 | Cairenn | rofl |
| 05:12.53 | Torhal | Hehehe |
| 05:12.58 | Rythal | she looks 19 to me... but I knew she had to be older then that, so 23 sounded good :P |
| 05:13.09 | Semlar | finally old enough to drink |
| 05:13.11 | Cairenn | smoogles all of yas |
| 05:17.18 | Thunder_Child | Yea, we will just ignore her getting plastered at blizzcon every year.... |
| 05:20.39 | Iriel | So she's at minimum 21 + first blizzcon to now |
| 05:21.03 | Semlar | quick somebody get a calculator |
| 05:21.04 | bluspacecow | *gasp* |
| 05:21.10 | bluspacecow | that would make her |
| 05:21.16 | bluspacecow | *does addition on fingers* |
| 05:21.17 | bluspacecow | 5! |
| 05:21.25 | Semlar | i thought you had hooves |
| 05:21.39 | bluspacecow | *gasp* |
| 05:21.47 | Semlar | ! |
| 05:22.02 | Semlar | http://i.imgur.com/ebfi1.jpg hey that almost looks right |
| 05:24.01 | Semlar | i immediately regret attempting to zoom out to kalimdor |
| 05:26.42 | Semlar | http://i.imgur.com/Ltp7p.jpg hey it loaded |
| 05:33.51 | Semlar | how does routes not cripple the game, i must be doing something wrong |
| 05:35.39 | Iriel | Semlar: is your framerate impacted, or was it just draw time? |
| 05:36.00 | Semlar | it almost crashes the game to zoom out to kalimdor |
| 05:36.10 | Semlar | like it stops responding for 10 seconds |
| 05:36.10 | Iriel | You probably want to limit the per-frame processing, maybe use a co-routine and draw the lines a few hundred at t time |
| 05:36.17 | Iriel | or optimize your code |
| 05:36.29 | Iriel | You've probably got some tight loops BEGGING for help |
| 05:36.36 | Semlar | up to the zone level it's okay |
| 05:36.49 | Semlar | granted it's drawing a lot more than it needs to |
| 05:37.15 | Iriel | Are you using unnamed, pooled, textures? |
| 05:37.26 | Semlar | yeah |
| 05:37.53 | Semlar | i'm keeping a table of textures to pull from and only making new ones if i have to |
| 05:38.31 | Semlar | it's probably fine the way it is because i'm not really planning on drawing every subzone at a continent-level |
| 05:38.49 | Dagmar | Just as long as Newman's Landing is clearly marked. :) |
| 05:38.49 | Semlar | it wouldn't hurt to optimize it though |
| 05:39.24 | Semlar | http://i.imgur.com/EE053.jpg i have thunder bluff covered |
| 05:39.26 | Dagmar | I thought I was maybe seeing things there during CB. |
| 05:40.15 | Semlar | http://i.imgur.com/gM4E6.jpg >_> |
| 05:40.49 | Dagmar | Wow. |
| 05:40.58 | Dagmar | Looks like the Roller Coaster From Hell |
| 05:41.20 | Semlar | i may need to cut it off at the edge of the map |
| 05:49.03 | Semlar | mikma: http://i.imgur.com/il8Iy.jpg |
| 05:51.55 | mikma | semlar: heh! |
| 05:52.38 | Semlar | i was going to fill them in but i think that may just be beyond me at the moment |
| 05:52.58 | Semlar | it would involve.. triangles.. |
| 05:53.20 | Iriel | right angled triangles |
| 05:53.42 | Semlar | i kind of like the outline anyway |
| 05:54.24 | Semlar | this is mostly just to make sure i get the coordinates right |
| 05:54.38 | mikma | needs more pink |
| 05:56.42 | mikma | its quite nippy outside but still kids arent wearing any hats |
| 05:56.45 | karl_w_w | <Semlar> http://i.imgur.com/Ltp7p.jpg hey it loaded <- why nothing on azure/bloodmyst? |
| 05:57.16 | karl_w_w | because they are technically different continents? |
| 05:57.22 | Semlar | yeah different instance |
| 05:57.36 | Semlar | mikma: http://i.imgur.com/ePgeX.jpg |
| 05:57.42 | karl_w_w | so fix! :P |
| 05:58.00 | karl_w_w | cracks the whip |
| 05:58.10 | mikma | so gay |
| 05:58.23 | mikma | and full of porn |
| 05:58.47 | mikma | cant.... handle... ugh! |
| 05:59.09 | Semlar | pink is a very manly color |
| 05:59.30 | Dagmar | Speaking of porn, I submitted the local Hustler store in Nashville to Ingress tonight for a giggle. |
| 05:59.44 | mikma | well you know the saying |
| 06:00.30 | mikma | when men start to make love, women are in the way |
| 06:02.04 | Dagmar | I'm fine with it. Leaves more women for me. |
| 06:02.16 | Dagmar | Everyone can be as gay as they want |
| 06:03.32 | mikma | work time. |
| 06:10.52 | Xzempt | what exactly are those routes for? |
| 06:11.08 | Dagmar | s/routes/enclosures/ |
| 06:11.31 | Dagmar | ...but yeah they look like crazy WoW-ercoaster Tycoon maps |
| 06:11.48 | Dagmar | I'd ride 'em |
| 06:12.12 | Dagmar | Safer than hepped up goats, to be sure. |
| 06:12.19 | Xzempt | oh i thought it was flight routes for farming something in, nagrand, I think it is |
| 06:12.38 | Dagmar | No those are subzone areas he's defining |
| 06:12.43 | Xzempt | ah |
| 06:13.10 | Semlar | http://i.imgur.com/82Ejr.jpg oh yeah this is a huge improvement |
| 06:13.57 | Dagmar | You're missing the subzone for East Borington |
| 06:14.02 | Iriel | Semlar: need to clip to the map |
| 06:14.12 | Semlar | you need to clip the map! |
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| 06:15.18 | dolby | Happy Birthday Cairenn! |
| 06:15.35 | Cairenn | Thanks dolby :) |
| 06:18.46 | Semlar | everywhere looks okay except the subzones in ammen vale whose lower-left portions appear to stretch all the way to the outland map |
| 06:19.15 | Semlar | which.. has to be an error in the client |
| 06:19.24 | Semlar | i don't think i've calculated it wrong |
| 06:20.40 | Semlar | http://i.imgur.com/QWpsa.jpg |
| 06:26.50 | Semlar | maybe if the value is large enough i can just loop it back around and it'll be in the right spot |
| 06:28.54 | Iriel | Semlar: maybe there's a bit you need to mask out? |
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| 07:07.13 | Thunder_Child | http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/spellbook/amalos-a-minecraft-mmo interesting.... |
| 07:13.19 | Arrowmaster | yay steam site updated! look at the supported OS icons http://store.steampowered.com/app/212680/ |
| 07:15.07 | Thunder_Child | how exactly does the soundtrack not work on linux? |
| 07:15.16 | Arrowmaster | no clue |
| 07:15.25 | kd3 | the dev has to specifically flip the 'linux compatible' switch |
| 07:16.08 | kd3 | there's a github issue about platform-agnostic content that's still active, last I checked |
| 07:16.29 | Arrowmaster | dlc doesnt seem to be correct |
| 07:16.42 | Arrowmaster | i know for a fact that this works on linux http://store.steampowered.com/app/98821/ |
| 07:17.12 | Arrowmaster | although since its a free dlc maybe the base game includes it but i dont think so |
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| 07:39.21 | karl_w_w | lol i just noticed the benches in the sw auction houses have changed |
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| 07:49.29 | Mr_Rabies | all the benches in stormwind did |
| 07:49.32 | Mr_Rabies | so did the lion statues |
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| 08:07.56 | Neffi | ok something's seriously wrong here |
| 08:08.22 | Neffi | GetSpellCooldown('Stealth') -> 0,0 /cast Stealth (while in stealth) says "spell is not ready" instead of pulling me out |
| 08:11.18 | karl_w_w | if only that was the biggest thing that's wrong with wow |
| 08:13.16 | Semlar | http://i.imgur.com/esYfE.jpg |
| 08:15.19 | Semlar | alright that's enough for one day |
| 08:16.03 | zenzio | what are those lines/dots meant to show? |
| 08:16.24 | Semlar | outline of the subzones |
| 08:17.09 | Semlar | the dots just represent the actual points in the database |
| 08:17.22 | zenzio | ah, I see |
| 08:17.34 | Semlar | so i can make the outline |
| 08:17.42 | zenzio | was wondering if it was a map of some kind of suggested mining/herbing flight paths :) |
| 08:18.54 | Rythal | whadya mean karl... wow is perfect, no bugs at all except that little one |
| 08:28.52 | karl_w_w | my mistake |
| 08:32.46 | Xzempt | anyone know if it's possible to return how much an item would be upgraded if you chose to upgrade it, without using the item upgrade guy |
| 08:35.12 | Rythal | no, all the itemupgrade functions only work at the upgrade guy |
| 08:36.06 | Xzempt | i would assume you could make a guesstimate at how much an item would be upgraded though, no? |
| 08:43.37 | Semlar | someone had an algorithm on wowinterface |
| 08:47.36 | Semlar | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?p=270641 |
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| 08:49.40 | karl_w_w | the whole system is a mess |
| 08:59.28 | Xzempt | seems like each stat upgraded is calculated differently |
| 09:02.53 | Semlar | can't you calculate the stats from the item level? |
| 09:04.07 | Xzempt | it seems to me each stat is upgraded by a different percentage |
| 09:04.25 | Xzempt | pvp gear seems to differ from the pve gear too |
| 09:04.42 | Xzempt | unless i'm calculating wrong lol |
| 09:05.12 | Xzempt | like on the raid finder mage tier head gear |
| 09:06.17 | Xzempt | using mirc, $calc(1775*0.01353) returns 24.01575 (armor, which shows 24 in the item upgrade guy with 0/2 upgrades) |
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| 09:10.37 | Xzempt | $calc(1626*0.03752) = 61.00752 which is the stamina upgrade |
| 09:10.53 | bluspacecow | @Cairenn Happy Birthday chick. |
| 09:11.13 | Kalroth | 21 again |
| 09:11.36 | Xzempt | Happy Birthday, Cairenn. Even though I don't know you. lol |
| 09:12.03 | bluspacecow | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?p=271661#post271661 |
| 09:12.08 | bluspacecow | happy birthday thread ! |
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| 10:36.41 | Cairenn | Thanks bluspacecow & Xzempt :) |
| 10:40.21 | Fisker | bluspacecow is slow |
| 10:48.50 | karl_w_w | he should mount then |
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| 11:09.27 | zenzio | Australia... http://www.smh.com.au/travel/travel-incidents/high-drama-qantas-pythons-flying-circus-20130110-2ciu0.html |
| 11:46.15 | chiel | poor snake :( |
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| 12:25.44 | wereHamster | it couldn't have been poor if it could afford a flight with quantas |
| 12:28.19 | chiel | lol |
| 12:28.55 | chiel | just imagine if it was a human, then suddenly alarm bells would be going off when blood is being splattered all over the engines |
| 12:29.02 | chiel | but not for this poor snake. :( |
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| 13:57.40 | zenzio | happy Friday peppy |
| 13:57.52 | alestane | cuddles Lopeppeppy 'cause it's Friday. |
| 13:57.57 | alestane | Jinx. |
| 13:58.06 | bluspacecow | *cuddles alestane cuddling Peppy* |
| 13:58.11 | bluspacecow | cuddle-ception! |
| 13:58.15 | alestane | Oof. Sandwich! |
| 14:00.19 | VIad | I found inefficient coding in the game |
| 14:00.32 | zenzio | no wai |
| 14:00.37 | zenzio | news at eleven |
| 14:00.41 | bluspacecow | *inefficiently codes vlad* |
| 14:00.47 | bluspacecow | horro movie at 11.30 |
| 14:00.48 | Lopeppeppy | Guess where I'll be next Friday? |
| 14:00.54 | Lopeppeppy | Sitting on alestane's lap!!!!!! |
| 14:00.57 | VIad | if you need replacements to finish your LFD run, even if you swap your role, if you requeue (i.e. "find another player to finish the dungeon" option) it ignores your new role selection, i.e. dps>tank |
| 14:01.01 | alestane | Whee! |
| 14:01.02 | bluspacecow | *gasp* |
| 14:01.18 | alestane | Taking your chances on mayhem, Peppy? |
| 14:01.23 | Lopeppeppy | True story! He lives close enough that we can botherate each other sometimes. |
| 14:01.35 | zenzio | isn't that more of a case of "incorrect", not "inefficient"? |
| 14:01.37 | VIad | meaning if there is a heavy lack of tanks or healers and you wish to do that just to finish the dungeon, you can't swap roles AND continue the same run :P |
| 14:01.45 | Lopeppeppy | Perilous in the extreme, but I've been cajoled into wearing my big-girl boots and giving it a try. |
| 14:01.57 | VIad | waiting 30 min in queue to find a tank, while I am a tank and selected tank in the DF |
| 14:01.57 | Lopeppeppy | I can always come home with you and Kat if fur flies. |
| 14:02.11 | alestane | We said that too. We can provide an escape hatch. |
| 14:03.10 | Lopeppeppy | So what have I got to lose, right? |
| 14:03.29 | alestane | Considering you sanity is already a distant memory and we wouldn't have it any other way? |
| 14:04.53 | VIad | my internet power is to start a completely different conversation than what I started :P |
| 14:05.42 | alestane | snorgles Peppy intensely. |
| 14:05.54 | Adys | kd3: I WIN AT LIFE AND EVERYTHING ELSE |
| 14:05.55 | Adys | https://github.com/stormlib/StormLib |
| 14:05.59 | Adys | I CONVINCED HIM |
| 14:06.06 | Adys | drowns in manly tears |
| 14:06.21 | alestane | Sorry, Vlad. I get to play WoW about once a month at the moment as it is, so I don't have a whole lot of energy for the minutiae. |
| 14:06.37 | VIad | don't worry |
| 14:06.55 | alestane | http://little-vampires.com/comic/corgisailing/ This strip is turning out seriously adorable. |
| 14:07.02 | VIad | just saying, the LFD "find replacements" should allow you to change your role to help rebuild the group quicker :P |
| 14:07.15 | VIad | especially when you are alone like me, waiting for 4 other people and stand on the last boss lol |
| 14:08.03 | alestane | Probably. Dunno whether it's something C-Side in the LFD implementation or a glitch in the interface. |
| 14:08.06 | Lopeppeppy | But if you could change your role on the fly, you'd never get a group going. People jump lines all the time, ever watch them in a bank? And they're twice as long as they'd have been if they had stuck with the first line. |
| 14:08.34 | VIad | Lopeppeppy: |
| 14:08.47 | VIad | I leave queue, select tank role, remove dps role, requeue for replacements for my group |
| 14:08.55 | VIad | I don't mean to change role while being in the queue |
| 14:09.13 | Lopeppeppy | Ah, that makes more sense. when you leave the queue you should be able to change your role. |
| 14:10.41 | alestane | Vlad, are you saying that while queued, changes to your roles don't take effect until you drop queue and requeue, or that you actually have to start a new run and the requeue system ignores changes to your role selection in the little box it gives you when the party leader tries to requeue the group? |
| 14:12.34 | VIad | if your LFD falls apart and you need to find more people, your role selection won't change when you requeue to fill up the group again |
| 14:13.14 | VIad | if you started as DPS and your LFD falls apart, even if you pick tank or healer and try to find replacements, the finder will keep you as DPS and disregard your role choice |
| 14:13.49 | alestane | So, whatever roles you had chosen at the start of the dungeon are treated as fixed for the duration of the group? |
| 14:14.29 | VIad | yes |
| 14:14.37 | VIad | unless you start a new dungeon group |
| 14:14.56 | VIad | but refilling it, you are stuck |
| 14:15.46 | alestane | Usually, if someone leaves the group, and the leader clicks to requeue, I get a little box asking me to confirm my roles as I'm returned to queue. You're saying that regardless of what I change in that box before accepting the requeue, it ignores any changes I make in that box, and not just choices I make in the LFD panel once I'm already in queue. |
| 14:16.57 | VIad | I get no box, I am the leader |
| 14:17.01 | VIad | :P |
| 14:17.04 | VIad | actually |
| 14:17.11 | VIad | I got no box when the last leader requeued |
| 14:17.30 | VIad | it just started to find replacements with our roles that we had when we first joined |
| 14:17.32 | alestane | I haven't used LFD since MoP came out, so it may have chaged. |
| 14:17.44 | alestane | changed* |
| 14:17.53 | VIad | it never asks for roles, only if the raid leader does a role check |
| 14:18.00 | VIad | but that has nothing to do with the DF :D |
| 14:19.10 | VIad | in any case it should always respect your role choice |
| 14:19.18 | VIad | so when you queue up it will use your new role selection |
| 14:19.24 | alestane | I'd have to go try it out these days, could be they changed the interface. |
| 14:20.54 | alestane | Well, in the case of role change being deferred until the next time you enter queue, that's convenient but has some issues with implementation. But as far as being locked for the group's duration, that seems like an issue more clearly worth fixing. |
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| 14:22.17 | VIad | yes |
| 14:22.47 | VIad | btw player named Nîgger in BG |
| 14:23.03 | Stanzilla | you don't like niggers? |
| 14:23.41 | VIad | I like everyone that are not asses to me :P |
| 14:23.58 | VIad | but if he is named Nîgger then it means "Nigger" is already someone else? lol xD |
| 14:24.40 | Stanzilla | I guess nigger is just banned |
| 14:24.47 | Stanzilla | was I ever an ass to you? |
| 14:25.19 | VIad | nope stan |
| 14:26.51 | VIad | improvement for opie -> allow a hotkey to be different things on different characters :P |
| 14:27.03 | VIad | I wish my alt+g to be mage portals on my mage, but on my other character another ring ;D |
| 14:27.33 | Stanzilla | profiles? |
| 14:28.11 | VIad | I'd like to keep the rings the same across all, just wish to be able to have one hotkey be different rings for some characters :( |
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| 14:37.00 | VIad | btw when you fall off a destroyed vehicle in sota, you fuck up the camera :P |
| 14:37.11 | VIad | still happens lol, has been since cata |
| 14:38.12 | Kalroth | well stay on then, sheesh |
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| 14:43.04 | VIad | warrior charge is useless, charge, demo don't get stunned, so I never get in range to apply hamstring :D |
| 14:44.14 | karl_w_w | what do u think piercing howl is for? :P |
| 14:44.53 | VIad | imma test it, wonder if I can still make it with 35 yard charge :P |
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| 15:10.46 | Semlar | mornin |
| 15:11.40 | VIad | hi Semlar |
| 15:12.25 | Semlar | what's up |
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| 15:36.16 | VIad | in the year 2525 |
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| 15:43.15 | Adys | "There’s nothing that can fill your underwear faster than seeing your product fail during a Steve Jobs demo." |
| 15:43.22 | Adys | even just reading that sentence gives me chills |
| 15:50.31 | Dagmar | it fills me with glee |
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| 15:58.02 | Fisker | i want to sleep Stanzilla |
| 15:58.52 | Stanzilla | goto sleep then |
| 15:59.24 | Fisker | i can't |
| 15:59.26 | Fisker | it's not sleep time |
| 16:03.50 | VIad | good morning |
| 16:05.17 | mikma | cairenn|afk: http://imgur.com/gallery/wEllZ |
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| 16:14.01 | VIad | why did the cat bite? |
| 16:14.10 | VIad | then it is surprised the guy reacted lol |
| 16:14.40 | alestane | Normally, I'd say "siamese", but it doesn't look it. |
| 16:15.01 | Stanzilla | just a bitch |
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| 16:22.30 | Lopeppeppy | Siamese is also a temperament, I think... one tiny gene fragment and wham. |
| 16:23.28 | alestane | Bucky's 'Siamese', right?" "Crossed with something else, yeah..." "Crossed with what?" "I dunno...a chainsaw, probably." |
| 16:23.51 | Dagmar | Cross 'em with tabbies and you get the mouthiest breed of cat evar |
| 16:24.00 | Dagmar | Laughably called "colorpoint shorthair" |
| 16:24.26 | Dagmar | Anecdotally referred to as "Gibbering Jabbercats" |
| 16:25.19 | VIad | Adys: ASP or PHP? |
| 16:25.47 | Adys | ? |
| 16:25.57 | VIad | what do you prefer? xD |
| 16:26.06 | Adys | why do you ask? |
| 16:26.32 | VIad | read on this page that someone thinks asp is growing old and that php is better than asp :P |
| 16:26.35 | Kalroth | adys perfers asp because its closest to visual basic which he loves |
| 16:26.43 | Dagmar | euw |
| 16:27.00 | VIad | he also said that linux servers are more stable and reliable than microsoft servers |
| 16:27.03 | Lopeppeppy | PHP is better than coldfusion, at least...which is like saying acid to the face is better than being lit on fire. |
| 16:27.12 | TC-work | Is it? |
| 16:27.23 | Kalroth | yes |
| 16:27.32 | VIad | http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=no&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&eotf=1&u=www.domeneshop.no%2Ffaq.cgi%3Fid%3D71&act=url |
| 16:27.33 | VIad | :P |
| 16:27.36 | TC-work | I meant the acid/fire thing |
| 16:27.38 | Adys | Vlad: they're two pretty horrible pieces of software for different reasons... |
| 16:28.11 | alestane | Vitriolage! |
| 16:28.23 | Kalroth | VIad: dont be fooled by him, he says he likes python and linux, when in reality he prefers visual basic and windows server ultimate advanced professional ultra edition 2014 |
| 16:28.37 | Lopeppeppy | I think he has children with COBOL. |
| 16:28.40 | VIad | does that come with 100% active directory? |
| 16:28.45 | Kalroth | 200% |
| 16:28.50 | VIad | where do I sing? |
| 16:28.51 | Kalroth | you have to set everything up twice |
| 16:28.58 | VIad | sign* |
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| 16:31.22 | VIad | going to work /kiss |
| 16:32.25 | Kalroth | http://falkvinge.net/2013/01/11/death-twitches-nokia-caught-wiretapping-encrypted-traffic-from-its-handsets/ poor nokia |
| 16:33.27 | Dagmar | Yeah I'm checking my Sprint firmware over the weekend. |
| 16:33.40 | Dagmar | If I find they put a trusted cert of their own in there, you'll be able to see the explosion from space. |
| 16:34.50 | Dagmar | I woulnd't trust them to have a chance of figuring out they were compromised, let alone ever say a word to anyone about it if they did |
| 16:37.01 | nevcairiel | but you do trust the "central" certificate authorities? they are even worse :p |
| 16:37.26 | foxlit | VIad: improvement for opie -> allow a hotkey to be different things on different characters :P << definitely profiles. |
| 16:40.42 | foxlit | which exist, work for this purpose, and yet are probably never used. |
| 16:43.15 | Dagmar | nevcairiel: They at least perform regular audits and sometimes own up to shit on their own |
| 16:43.30 | nevcairiel | you wish |
| 16:43.33 | Dagmar | Sprint can't even fucking admit that their SprintID crapware is fucking up phones after the update to 4.1 |
| 16:44.35 | Dagmar | Seriously, people are having battery life issues because SprintID is in a crash loop in the background |
| 16:48.35 | kullervo | Kalroth: while that's true, it's what opera mini does as well yet people aren't shouting about that |
| 16:49.25 | Kalroth | kullervo: im pretty sure it's optional and disabled by default in opera mobile |
| 16:49.38 | kullervo | I said opera mini, not opera mobile |
| 16:49.52 | Kalroth | its the same |
| 16:50.08 | kullervo | no it's not, have you ever installed them both on a low end phone? |
| 16:51.02 | Fisker | so Kalroth |
| 16:51.19 | Kalroth | no, my last low end phone was a nokia 3210 |
| 16:51.26 | Fisker | Calls for an equally absurd campaign against Microsoft for spying on their users!111 |
| 16:51.45 | Kalroth | Fisker: i dont think it's a secret that MS spies on their users |
| 16:51.50 | foxlit | Hah, mystery solved. |
| 16:51.52 | Fisker | inorite? |
| 16:52.16 | foxlit | It was taintlog 2 that caused the PTR client to crash with assertion failures immediately upon encountering taint. |
| 16:52.29 | Fisker | soothes foxlit |
| 16:52.46 | alestane | Oops. |
| 16:52.46 | Fisker | taintlog 2 is an addon and crashes occur because we don't want to restrict access |
| 16:53.02 | Kalroth | kullervo: main difference is that opera (mini) doesn't try to hide it |
| 16:53.19 | Kalroth | http://www.opera.com/mobile/help/faq/#security |
| 16:54.25 | Kalroth | while Nokia does it silently without a notice or warning (at least I can't find anything online right now) |
| 16:54.53 | foxlit | Fisker: ghostcrawler's statements are scary. |
| 16:55.13 | Fisker | yep |
| 16:56.16 | Adys | foxlit: which? |
| 16:56.31 | foxlit | something about automation and talents |
| 16:56.55 | foxlit | "Philosophically, we don't want automating talent or glyph swaps. Once it's easy to reglyph every pull, players feel like they must." |
| 16:57.23 | Fisker | Basically it's his argument for not fixing the Blizzard "errors" that causes taint |
| 16:57.43 | foxlit | except it's not an argument for not fixing errors. |
| 16:57.54 | Fisker | yeah |
| 16:58.01 | Fisker | basically he just doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about |
| 17:04.15 | nevcairiel | that philosophy is something they have had for ages |
| 17:04.29 | Adys | Hes kind of right |
| 17:04.31 | Adys | but the issue is |
| 17:04.34 | nevcairiel | although it was far more important before the dumbed down talent system in 5.0 |
| 17:04.36 | Adys | players already feel like they must |
| 17:04.49 | Adys | im in the most casual guild of all and I reglyph every couple of fights |
| 17:05.06 | nevcairiel | personally i'm happy to find 3 major glyphs that are actually beneficial |
| 17:05.11 | nevcairiel | i must be playing the wrong class |
| 17:05.15 | Adys | sorry i meant talents |
| 17:05.18 | Adys | glyphs are awfyl |
| 17:05.20 | Adys | yeah |
| 17:05.28 | kullervo | and what's this speak about automatic swaps, I do it manually yet the blizzard UI gets tainted by just about anything |
| 17:05.43 | nevcairiel | my glyph or talent ui never taints |
| 17:05.52 | nevcairiel | only thing i had break a lot lately was the compact raid frame |
| 17:06.04 | nevcairiel | or well "break", it complained :p |
| 17:06.12 | kullervo | that I'd like to get rid of completely, the arrow bothers me |
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| 17:07.48 | kullervo | raid manager toggle button, that is |
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| 17:15.10 | Fisker | because he's dumb kullervo |
| 17:15.32 | Fisker | "fixing" the UI to fix the taint doesn't allow automation of the glyphs/talents anyway |
| 17:23.34 | kullervo | what's the instance channel called? |
| 17:23.46 | Kaylin | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:23.46 | kullervo | I'll have to modify all my not-quite-working announce addons |
| 17:23.57 | durcyn | INSTANCE_CHAT |
| 17:24.02 | kullervo | ait |
| 17:24.06 | Arrowmaster | you have to remember that nobody at blizzard that posts on the forums or anywhere else publically works on the UI anymore |
| 17:24.10 | kullervo | fires up np++ |
| 17:24.18 | Arrowmaster | they are all either designers or community managers |
| 17:24.26 | Arrowmaster | they dont code |
| 17:24.32 | nevcairiel | didnt we establish earlier that any addon announcing to instance chat should be banned from the world for ever? :p |
| 17:25.33 | durcyn | anyone using SendChatMessage should be hit with a bag of hammers, instance or not |
| 17:25.34 | kullervo | I missed the memo |
| 17:26.02 | nevcairiel | what useful info could ever be broadcast through instance chat? |
| 17:26.13 | kullervo | "I used my interrupt" |
| 17:26.30 | karl_w_w | there's a combat log for that |
| 17:26.36 | durcyn | "I think you give a fuck that i used my interrupt, here's some spam" |
| 17:26.45 | durcyn | "(i am wrong.)" |
| 17:27.01 | kullervo | really I've got that stuff for specific raid encounters |
| 17:27.17 | kullervo | also the one thing I set to fix was "instance completed in X minutes, new record GG" |
| 17:27.34 | durcyn | the intersection of interrupt rotations and instance chat is nonexistent |
| 17:28.05 | nevcairiel | yeah put it in raid chat already =p |
| 17:28.41 | durcyn | i also have impolite things to say about spamming lfd timers, but you can probably guess |
| 17:29.00 | kullervo | recently I got an addon that whispers hunters and warlocks if their pets taunt shit |
| 17:29.17 | karl_w_w | does it insult them strongly? |
| 17:29.26 | kullervo | should it? |
| 17:29.27 | nevcairiel | and repeatedly? |
| 17:29.32 | karl_w_w | yes it should |
| 17:30.03 | karl_w_w | well, it should check if both tanks are dead first |
| 17:30.17 | kullervo | also 5-mans |
| 17:30.33 | kullervo | especially 5-mans, actually... if something's not under my control it's probably going to kill the healer next |
| 17:30.36 | karl_w_w | s/both/any/ |
| 17:31.10 | nevcairiel | some taunting pet can usually hold aggro against a healer |
| 17:31.17 | nevcairiel | unless the pet dies, of course :p |
| 17:31.18 | kullervo | assuming it won't die |
| 17:31.43 | karl_w_w | most people dont have pets on their frames so it will die eventually :P |
| 17:35.05 | karl_w_w | why doesnt gear look as awesome as it did in BC? |
| 17:35.21 | pompy | awesome! https://bnetcmsus-a.akamaihd.net/cms/gallery/WVA8GO2C1WLR1357871235649.jpg |
| 17:35.36 | pompy | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/blog/8376066/Cinder_Kitten_Raises_More_Than_23_Million_-1_10_2013 |
| 17:35.50 | karl_w_w | old pompy |
| 17:36.12 | karl_w_w | mike morhaime barely managing a smile there |
| 17:37.12 | karl_w_w | it's a smile of "this was gonna be my yacht" |
| 17:37.59 | kullervo | karl_w_w: I think gear looked ridiculous in TBC |
| 17:38.26 | karl_w_w | ridiculously brilliant? |
| 17:38.38 | kullervo | no, just ridiculous |
| 17:40.03 | kullervo | are all interrupts 15s now? |
| 17:40.36 | kd3 | grats adys |
| 17:40.49 | Fisker | does "The World of Warcraft community" count as a legal entity? |
| 17:40.56 | Adys | kd3: i feel like i achieved something great. |
| 17:41.15 | karl_w_w | no kullervo |
| 17:41.22 | kullervo | damn |
| 17:41.22 | kd3 | ...what was he doing before? just using zips as revision control? |
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| 17:47.41 | Mr_Rabies | that check doesn't even have a routing number on it, fisker |
| 17:47.46 | Mr_Rabies | i call scam |
| 17:48.43 | Mr_Rabies | i imagine red cross has a bank they go to with teller tubes big enough for those huge checks |
| 17:48.50 | Fisker | :D |
| 17:53.37 | Adys | kd3: more or less. |
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| 18:05.22 | Fisker | kd3 |
| 18:05.52 | kd3 | 'lo |
| 18:06.08 | Fisker | hey |
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| 19:25.41 | TC-work | http://www.engadget.com/2013/01/10/ipotty-ipad-dock/ Not OK |
| 19:26.59 | Fisker | it's not the first time apple devices are associated with shit |
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| 19:30.24 | Ressy | Anyone see this? http://www.linkedin.com/jobs?viewJob=&jobId=4066810&trk=jobs_share_fb |
| 19:30.36 | Cairenn|afk | mikma: rofl |
| 19:31.14 | Fisker | why Ressy ? |
| 19:31.31 | Fisker | i think i'll send an application |
| 19:31.44 | nevcairiel | its not for WoW, its for SC2 |
| 19:31.48 | Fisker | ^^ |
| 19:32.10 | Fisker | "I understand UI philosophy vewwy vewwy good, i break stuff for addons and then don't fix them because if addon breaks then they're just doing something we don't want" |
| 19:32.50 | Fisker | RIP slouken though |
| 19:32.56 | Fisker | good thing he's at valve though |
| 19:34.02 | TC-work | http://youtu.be/GJ_Ruontgms interesting, but i really hate inconsistent tech. |
| 19:35.08 | Fisker | o l d |
| 19:35.22 | TC-work | <3 you too Fisker |
| 19:35.43 | Fisker | cool |
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| 19:55.40 | foxlit | why are there tomes of the clear mind for 10g on the AH? |
| 19:56.23 | kd3 | fools and their money are soon parted? |
| 19:57.59 | foxlit | it's like a 2000% markup. |
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| 19:58.21 | kd3 | hey, if it sells, more power to the seller |
| 20:04.56 | Gnarfoz | s/power/gold/ |
| 20:08.06 | Cidan | slouken works for valve now? |
| 20:08.20 | nevcairiel | for a while already |
| 20:10.34 | Cidan | huh, I had no idea |
| 20:10.44 | Gnarfoz | what's the popular mpq editor/viewer/extractor these days? |
| 20:10.53 | Gnarfoz | (did someone write a filesystem driver, yet? :D) |
| 20:12.49 | Arrowmaster | Ressy: notice how it has zero mention of programming and is for a 'designer' possition |
| 20:16.00 | Dark_Elf | ~seen Kemayo |
| 20:16.03 | purl | kemayo is currently on #wowuidev #wowace. Has said a total of 17 messages. Is idling for 3d 18h 56m 16s, last said: 'It's up on Curse itself. http://www.curse.com/addons/wow/handynotes_lostandfound'. |
| 20:18.26 | Fisker | i sold stacks of ice cold milk during the winter's veil stuff |
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| 20:22.35 | cogwheel | Cidan: welcome to last August ;) |
| 20:22.42 | Cidan | ha |
| 20:22.43 | Cidan | :P |
| 20:23.12 | Cidan | well, now that my girlfriend dumped me, I'll have time to catchup, right? |
| 20:23.14 | Cidan | sad story |
| 20:23.25 | cogwheel | :( |
| 20:23.35 | cogwheel | time to take up country music |
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| 20:23.58 | Lopeppeppy | ~comfort cidan |
| 20:23.58 | purl | There, there, cidan. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
| 20:24.19 | Cidan | I'm almost positive there is a song for "my girlfriend left me 2 days before christmas for a poet that is 8 years younger than me." |
| 20:24.20 | Dagmar | It could be worse. |
| 20:24.54 | TC-work | It can almost always be worse |
| 20:24.55 | Fisker | Yeah Cidan? What's his name? |
| 20:25.03 | Cidan | Henry |
| 20:25.14 | Cidan | Mind you, I'm a Spanish stud, too :( |
| 20:25.20 | Cidan | My name is Antonio and everything |
| 20:27.32 | Cidan | so are the pokemon battles in MoP fun? |
| 20:27.54 | nevcairiel | i found them to be rather boring, its more about collecting really |
| 20:28.18 | Kaylin | I find them enjoyable, along with the scenarios they are a quick little minigame, but I don't have any max level pets, I'm not min-maxing here. |
| 20:29.17 | foxlit | pve stuff goes like this: pick counter-pets for whatever combination of pets the NPC has, then cross fingers for good luck if you're fighting legendary pets. |
| 20:36.01 | Fisker | i want my surface pro nevcairiel |
| 20:36.03 | Fisker | when can i get it? |
| 20:42.06 | Unkle | Cidan: I managed to burn three days of WoW play time on them without really noticing - because I was having fun. |
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| 20:46.12 | *** topic/#wowuidev by Kaelten -> Happy Birthday Cairenn!! || http://pastebin.com || 5.1.x ToC: 50100 || #WoWUIDev-commits: CIA & JIRA bots reporting || Battletags: http://goo.gl/2bm7n || This channel is logged, via purl || "could be worse, you could be ridding around on a sparkle brony." ~ TC-work |
| 20:47.02 | Unkle | living dangerously Kaelten? |
| 20:47.13 | Kaelten | only way to do it |
| 20:47.16 | mikma | he left the age out |
| 20:47.18 | mikma | so, no |
| 20:47.58 | Kaelten | lol |
| 20:48.46 | Primer | Forgot [sic] |
| 20:48.55 | Primer | on 'ridding' |
| 20:50.03 | Kaylin | ridding is a perfectly valid word, I am ridding the world of evil. |
| 20:50.32 | Kaylin | bbl, class. |
| 20:50.53 | Unkle | And I have to fight the six evil bronies in the process. |
| 20:51.24 | Kaelten | is that your own personal version of scott pilgrim? |
| 20:51.40 | Unkle | Just a throw away joke. |
| 20:52.22 | Kaelten | personaly sounds like a super creepy paraody |
| 20:52.39 | Unkle | Yeah, I can imagine it being a YouTube sensation. |
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| 21:03.16 | Primer | Yes, I know it's a valid word, but in that context, it's misspelled |
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| 21:45.20 | kd3 | ... |
| 21:45.31 | kd3 | it's early january and it's 64F outside. I'm wearing shorts. wth |
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| 21:54.51 | Arrowmaster | kd3: 58°F here and there is still snow on the ground in some places |
| 21:55.22 | Arrowmaster | 2 days ago i was still parked on a large piece of ice out front |
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| 22:20.08 | Humbedooh | hey jnwhiteh!?! |
| 22:21.45 | VIad | foxlit: the only reason I am not a huge profiles fan, is because let's say I do change one hotkey on the standard profile, if I later change the default settings I have to apply those changes on the profile (that only serves as that one hotkey changing profile) - lots of work :< |
| 22:24.08 | cbreak | http://arstechnica.com/science/2013/01/false-balance-fox-news-demands-a-recount-on-us-warmest-year/ |
| 22:24.19 | Gnarfoz | mhhh |
| 22:24.23 | Neffi | I agree the profiles most addons use are annoying |
| 22:24.39 | cbreak | why do they let morons like those waste bandwidth? :/ |
| 22:24.50 | Neffi | They should move to a fallthrough system. The default profile is always "Default", and you can apply a mask profile above it per-character. Makes it all a lot simpler. |
| 22:25.09 | VIad | Neffi I agree |
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| 22:25.17 | VIad | i.e. default + some mask on top for specific settings |
| 22:25.21 | Neffi | mhmm |
| 22:25.28 | nevcairiel | simpler? that system may seem handy in theory, but in practice deciding which settings to mask is incredibly annoying to setup :p |
| 22:25.37 | Neffi | mask can negate or add, so an account-wide settings can also be disabled for one character |
| 22:25.48 | nevcairiel | its anything but simple :P |
| 22:25.58 | Neffi | it takes a little work, aye, but it would be a huge benefit to users |
| 22:25.59 | Semlar | can mine be a guy fawkes mask |
| 22:26.01 | Neffi | at least those who care |
| 22:26.05 | VIad | let's say I wish to have my bartender4 profile on my alt different scale, so I use a profile and get that effect, but later if I wish to change alpha on all my profiles I have to go trough each profile and apply this setting to each bar :P |
| 22:26.34 | Neffi | Setting it up can be achieved via a simple metatable that indexes the global profile |
| 22:26.47 | Neffi | want to hide a global settings? set it to false in the mask |
| 22:26.48 | nevcairiel | code wise its not hard, exposing this to the user sanely is :p |
| 22:27.07 | Neffi | Profile: Default Overlay Profile: None (Add) |
| 22:27.22 | Neffi | Mouseover: "Overlay profiles allow you to apply settings per-character" |
| 22:27.27 | VIad | and overlay profiles would be a list with stuff you can add, change, delete, apply/unapply |
| 22:27.38 | nevcairiel | hardly intuitive |
| 22:27.54 | Semlar | global setting > override setting |
| 22:27.58 | VIad | for instance Grid2 |
| 22:28.10 | Neffi | Have a dropdown that defaults to "overlay" if one is present, so the user can choose which profile his changes become a part of |
| 22:28.26 | VIad | Grid2 is awesome but each character have the healer settings (spell auras) for my druid : |
| 22:28.35 | VIad | because I copied the default (druid) profile over to each character ;D |
| 22:28.43 | VIad | so gotta manually apply the healer stuff on the healer classes, hehe |
| 22:29.03 | VIad | just saying, one situation copying a profile isn't helpful as it overwrites stuff I probably wanna keep |
| 22:29.10 | Neffi | TBH a lot of what pushed me to write parts of my UI myself was annoyance in how addons have to be configured. Profile mess, bad GUIs, lack of configuration options that are both obvious and simple to implement |
| 22:29.27 | VIad | in my case the healer stuff should be overlay profiles |
| 22:29.30 | Neffi | The primary reason I don't really use other addons is because of their configuration, not their functionality or quality or anything else |
| 22:29.41 | VIad | druid, priest, e.g. and on/off buttons to apply to the profile |
| 22:29.50 | VIad | and the profile itself in grid2 case would be layout settings |
| 22:30.04 | nevcairiel | options dont usually get created by thinking "what could i make configurable?", instead they go "what do i need to change sometimes?", and it just doesn't occur to people to make simple thing #1 configurable, just ask for it :P |
| 22:30.24 | VIad | nevcairiel maybe a milestone for Ace4 is more advanced config system? ;D |
| 22:30.41 | Neffi | I think of things in a different way. I consider "what would the user want to change?" |
| 22:30.54 | nevcairiel | then you're a weirdo in the addon world :P |
| 22:31.18 | Neffi | Well I havent written a GUI config in ages, because I stopped caring enough to write for other people |
| 22:31.48 | nevcairiel | so do most other devs, which is why you can't configure everything, but only the thing the dev himself finds useful to change sometimes |
| 22:31.59 | nevcairiel | or someone asked for |
| 22:32.00 | Neffi | But philosophically, I think it makes sense. If you put in the effort to make your addon "production quality" instead of just a personal piece of work for personal use, why not put in the effort to make it great on all accounts for other users? |
| 22:32.15 | nevcairiel | but noone does this effort :p |
| 22:32.19 | VIad | nevcairiel: have you ever had a design class? xD |
| 22:32.21 | nevcairiel | and 95% dont even know how |
| 22:32.43 | Neffi | Meh. There's some great skill in the addon community |
| 22:32.44 | VIad | when designing a UI for options you must design with the user in the center :3 |
| 22:33.00 | VIad | i.e. think from their POV when it comes to what the options Ui should provide |
| 22:33.07 | nevcairiel | who the fuck cares about a braindead wow user thats not even gonna be grateful but just bitch anyway? |
| 22:33.15 | VIad | I am grateful |
| 22:33.17 | VIad | of your work |
| 22:33.22 | Neffi | I prefer to give the user the benefit of the doubt |
| 22:33.32 | Neffi | Because though 95% of users are idiots, you have users that are not |
| 22:33.35 | VIad | I think most are grateful |
| 22:33.38 | Neffi | like most of the regulars in here |
| 22:33.45 | VIad | just the negative once are more visible, doesn't mean it's the majority |
| 22:33.55 | nevcairiel | but it is the majority :p |
| 22:34.03 | VIad | that's just what you think :P |
| 22:34.12 | Neffi | If you design for the majority, you're designing for mediocrity |
| 22:34.31 | Neffi | Don't target the lowest common denominator. Target the highest you can reasonably attain. |
| 22:35.18 | Neffi | The higher your mark, the happier a larger number of people are. And holding people to higher standards usually invokes a higher response. Maybe so many people don't even look at the config screen because developers already assume they won't |
| 22:36.24 | Neffi | Anyway, I've got to go clean up. |
| 22:36.50 | Neffi | If that comment about Ace4 was serious (was it?) maybe I'll draft up some ideas for the config for you guys to consider |
| 22:36.59 | Neffi | or even contribute some code |
| 22:37.28 | nevcairiel | dont listen to vlad, he shows his being grateful by talking nonsense all day =p |
| 22:37.53 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: SUF's "change stuff for $many frames at the same time" approach feels like it could be used in bt4, if you're bored and want to take a look =) you can change stuff directly for each (enabled) unit, but there's also a "global" page, where you pick which units the settings you make shall affect, and off you go. (replace "unit" with "bar" where applicable ;-)) |
| 22:37.59 | VIad | lol nevcairiel ^^ |
| 22:38.23 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: did i mention that i don't care about my users? :P |
| 22:38.33 | Gnarfoz | see: when bored |
| 22:38.40 | Gnarfoz | also, he does the nonsense-talking regardless of state of gratefulness |
| 22:38.46 | Gnarfoz | :P |
| 22:38.51 | nevcairiel | i suppose thats true |
| 22:39.00 | nevcairiel | also, i'm very rarely bored |
| 22:39.07 | Gnarfoz | enough projects to hack on! |
| 22:39.14 | nevcairiel | exactly |
| 22:39.19 | nevcairiel | and all more engaging then wow addons |
| 22:39.26 | Gnarfoz | easily |
| 22:39.28 | Fisker | is there a problem? |
| 22:39.36 | Gnarfoz | what are you hacking on, besides LAV? |
| 22:40.27 | nevcairiel | mostly lav, some small web projects on the side |
| 22:41.39 | VIad | nevcairiel show me some of the webpages you have made |
| 22:42.09 | Gnarfoz | I din't think he said anything about websites |
| 22:42.17 | Gnarfoz | s/i/o/ |
| 22:42.24 | nevcairiel | i do backend things |
| 22:42.25 | VIad | web projects |
| 22:42.33 | VIad | tell me, show me if applicable :D |
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| 22:44.31 | nevcairiel | although i had an idea for a new webapp which i want to use for LAV. Its always a problem to get users to give me their broken files for fixing, mostly because all the half-good one-click hosters have vanished, so i figured i could setup my own, but with some restrictions - like anyone can upload, but only a selected group of developers/testers can download, to avoid everyone using it for their illegal sharing =p |
| 22:45.57 | VIad | ~dict LAV |
| 22:46.39 | VIad | what is LAV and what is a webapp, isn't all websites "webapps" if they do stuff? |
| 22:47.13 | VIad | google calendar = webapp no? |
| 22:48.37 | nevcairiel | a webapp is an actual application that runs on the web, a website is more generic, some page that just shows information is no application |
| 22:48.56 | End_ | heh, I googled lav and it led me to one of nevcairiel's posts |
| 22:48.58 | Gnarfoz | ~google lav filters |
| 22:49.40 | nevcairiel | i have no idea where i am on the google index if you just google lav, my google is tainted by my search preferences =p |
| 22:49.45 | TC-work | I'd limit the upload as well nevcairiel. |
| 22:49.53 | End_ | I think I used another term with it |
| 22:50.05 | End_ | oh lav lib |
| 22:50.06 | nevcairiel | TC-work: obviously there would be some restrictions as well |
| 22:50.23 | End_ | I came halfway into the conversation and figured it was some media related library |
| 22:50.24 | nevcairiel | but not as tight as the remaining oen click hosters |
| 22:50.26 | Gnarfoz | doom9 thread is result #2 for me with just 'lav' |
| 22:50.37 | Gnarfoz | google code project is #3 |
| 22:50.52 | Gnarfoz | but... I'm logged in, so that's basically worth nothing :p |
| 22:51.05 | nevcairiel | the worst are the chinese people, for some reason they always upload to a chinese hoster, and i get like 20 kb/s from some of those :P |
| 22:52.23 | Gnarfoz | why did updating to firefox 18 log me out of *every* website on the planet, grrr |
| 22:52.27 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 22:56.53 | Semlar | http://i.imgur.com/bm3gS.jpg ^_^ |
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| 23:05.46 | VIad | Gnarfoz: doesn't happen to me |
| 23:05.52 | VIad | using my cookie cache since 2008 LOL |
| 23:05.54 | Gnarfoz | that's great. |
| 23:06.16 | Gnarfoz | do you think I deleted my cookies or something |
| 23:06.36 | VIad | could be |
| 23:06.41 | Gnarfoz | yeah, except I'd know |
| 23:07.09 | Gnarfoz | (and as you astutely pointed out, they don't disappear on their own ;)) |
| 23:07.18 | nevcairiel | i deleted my cookie cache at work a while back because somehow my profile corrupted, well technically i deleted the whole profile =P |
| 23:07.19 | VIad | they can't just disappear |
| 23:07.20 | nevcairiel | damn firefo |
| 23:07.21 | nevcairiel | x |
| 23:07.45 | Gnarfoz | I didn't say they were gone, did I? :P I said I'm logged out wherever I go |
| 23:07.49 | Gnarfoz | the cookies are still there. |
| 23:08.18 | Gnarfoz | *shrug* |
| 23:08.23 | VIad | you sure firefox uses the right profile? |
| 23:08.24 | nevcairiel | perhaps still there, but firefox decided to not send them to the websites, or you wouldn't be logged out :) |
| 23:08.25 | Gnarfoz | just a bit annoying, not a big problem |
| 23:08.29 | Gnarfoz | of course man |
| 23:08.44 | Gnarfoz | if the profile were wrong, a lot of other stuff would be wrong, too |
| 23:08.45 | VIad | you sure you don't have some domain blacklist for cookies? |
| 23:08.57 | Gnarfoz | >_> why am I even talking to you |
| 23:09.10 | Gnarfoz | feels like a bad tech support hotline :p |
| 23:09.44 | VIad | that's how it is |
| 23:10.09 | Gnarfoz | be useful and fix whatever it is breaks the openvpn-gui application when I connect to my openvpn server |
| 23:10.14 | Gnarfoz | :') |
| 23:11.29 | VIad | it feels like tech support because issues like these are limited to some users |
| 23:11.50 | VIad | never heard or experienced of cookies being there but not used by the program, probably not loaded at all, permissions? bad path? corrupt cookie file? |
| 23:12.02 | VIad | cookies are stored in a database file and maybe there is a issue with it? |
| 23:12.04 | nevcairiel | i just use a bunch of batch files to connect my openvpn, screw that gui thing |
| 23:12.24 | VIad | it's like asking why your car makes a weird noise when you turn it on :P |
| 23:12.26 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: why? it's fine, if just for the pw prompt and the systray status icon |
| 23:12.41 | Gnarfoz | VIad: ...no |
| 23:12.59 | Gnarfoz | VIad: I meant *you* sound like tech support hotline |
| 23:13.17 | VIad | I know |
| 23:13.18 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: well... it was fine. until it started crashing when I try to connect. :P |
| 23:13.26 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 23:13.35 | nevcairiel | i don't really use it much anyway |
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| 23:13.41 | VIad | and I said I sound like that, because the problem you are having can have many reasons, i.e. I just gotta start to go trough a checklist :P |
| 23:13.45 | nevcairiel | only if i happen to be on an insecure network really |
| 23:13.48 | Gnarfoz | actually, might be because server is not 2.3, or $whatever reason, I don't even care, I'll call it manually |
| 23:14.07 | Gnarfoz | VIad: no, because I'm not a fucking moron (most of the time, at least) |
| 23:14.16 | nevcairiel | i should setup a openvpn to tunnel into my homenetwork from work |
| 23:14.27 | VIad | I once called my ISP for a issue that was my fault, wrong router config, even when I had checked many times :P |
| 23:14.32 | VIad | you never know when you might do a noob mistake |
| 23:14.33 | nevcairiel | i only use it to tunnel to my internet server to get encryption through open wifis and whatnot :p |
| 23:14.43 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: I don't really use mine, either, it's just there for when I want to - gave my brother access when he went to china, for example |
| 23:15.28 | VIad | Gnarfoz: does this happen if you try with a new profile? |
| 23:15.36 | Gnarfoz | HOW WOULD I KNOW |
| 23:15.41 | VIad | try it? :P |
| 23:15.43 | Gnarfoz | old cookies don't exist in a new profile |
| 23:15.48 | Gnarfoz | are you thick or something |
| 23:15.59 | VIad | and you call me bad tech support |
| 23:16.09 | VIad | (1) install old firefox (2) login (3) update (4) check if still logged |
| 23:16.20 | nevcairiel | that would be an insult to bad tech support |
| 23:16.32 | VIad | using new profile, just backup your old profile folder |
| 23:16.43 | VIad | I don't see how my suggestion is a bad one :P |
| 23:17.22 | Gnarfoz | suggest away, if you're so bored, and I'll reply annoyedly, while I'm here |
| 23:17.35 | Gnarfoz | (read: I didn't ask for help, just wanted to rant :P) |
| 23:17.38 | nevcairiel | if you want to be tech support, you're supposed to help him, not make him figure out why it happens =P |
| 23:18.01 | VIad | I can't use magic to find the answer and tell him the steps |
| 23:18.09 | Gnarfoz | but that's what tech support is :P |
| 23:18.15 | VIad | he needs to try out some things to narrow down the possibilities |
| 23:18.21 | Gnarfoz | if I wanted to, yes |
| 23:18.28 | VIad | atm all I know is cookies are there,but when he updates he is logged out of all sites |
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| 23:18.36 | Gnarfoz | when I updated* |
| 23:18.40 | Gnarfoz | not "when I update" |
| 23:18.43 | Gnarfoz | I didn't try more than once |
| 23:18.47 | VIad | so it happened once, then nvm |
| 23:18.53 | VIad | I thought it happened each time you update firefox |
| 23:19.23 | Gnarfoz | well, read what I wrote initially and figure out how you came to that conclusion |
| 23:20.09 | Gnarfoz | sidenote: is the profiles stuff even exposed to the user? I thought it wasn't, being little more than a relic from its mozilla roots |
| 23:20.13 | VIad | tired from work |
| 23:20.45 | nevcairiel | i think you can only switch profile by command line argument |
| 23:20.50 | VIad | you have a ini file |
| 23:21.06 | Gnarfoz | tell me about it, I didn't find time for my lunch break and stayed 2 hours after hours :| |
| 23:21.23 | VIad | %appdata%\Mozilla\Firefox\profiles.ini |
| 23:21.39 | Gnarfoz | that's what happens when stuff you think will be "done before lunch" (...starting at 11:00 :D) goes sideways and takes the rest of the day |
| 23:21.41 | nevcairiel | i had lunch, but i also stayed about 2 hours longer then usual today |
| 23:22.17 | nevcairiel | migrating infrastructure is fun. well, technically testing new infrastructure so that we can migrate next week =p |
| 23:22.18 | Gnarfoz | at least the DB stayed up all through it, but performance was badly degraded for a while |
| 23:22.39 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: you're in luck, at least you've got stuff to test available |
| 23:23.11 | Gnarfoz | "we need at least an additional X of Y, so we can test deployment" never happens |
| 23:23.35 | nevcairiel | we ordered new servers, been setting up all the services on them this week, noticed we still need new kerberos auth tokens for the servers today ... hope the unix team delivers them fast :p |
| 23:24.22 | Gnarfoz | we put the new servers for our virtualization endeavours this year into the datacenter yesterday, \o/ |
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| 23:24.58 | Gnarfoz | they've been sitting, still in their shipping packaging, in the hallway for the last 8 weeks or something |
| 23:25.20 | Gnarfoz | guy responsible was sick first, then back injury, can't lift heavy stuff now, also: xmas |
| 23:25.35 | nevcairiel | i dont get to handle any hardware anymore, i'm lucky if i get to help setting up the servers on the software end... :p |
| 23:25.47 | Gnarfoz | that's on the list for tuesday |
| 23:26.03 | Gnarfoz | getting some external help so we don't fuck it up too badly |
| 23:26.04 | Gnarfoz | :P |
| 23:26.32 | nevcairiel | well my job description is technically web developer, so i guess its ok, although i hardly develop anymore =p |
| 23:26.40 | Gnarfoz | today was: "we need to shrink this ACFS filesystem because we want to use the disk space for VM"... fuck that |
| 23:27.17 | Gnarfoz | mine is database & systems administrator, but it might as well be idiot who gets to fix things if shit breaks |
| 23:27.36 | Kaylin | isn't that all any of us ever do? |
| 23:27.41 | Gnarfoz | probably |
| 23:27.51 | nevcairiel | i do that too a lot |
| 23:28.33 | Gnarfoz | I still don't know why we didn't get 10G NICs for these boxes... now they have 12 GbE ports. *boggle* |
| 23:28.34 | ccox | Somedays, I just don't know if it's worth getting out of bed: http://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/usmap.htm |
| 23:29.30 | Gnarfoz | site not loading ^ |
| 23:29.36 | Kaylin | worked for me |
| 23:29.50 | ccox | and http://www.google.org/flutrends/us/#US |
| 23:30.03 | nevcairiel | so everyone in the US has the flu? |
| 23:30.17 | ccox | not yet, but seems to be heading that way |
| 23:30.47 | Xandr | You people better stay on that continent then. |
| 23:30.51 | Gnarfoz | hmmm maybe the openvpn connection setup stuff got further than I thought it did, before it crashed... :D |
| 23:31.06 | Gnarfoz | only existing connections work. #1 sign of "your routing is fucked up" |
| 23:31.07 | ccox | Xandr: http://www.google.org/flutrends/ |
| 23:31.31 | nevcairiel | we're just moderate, guess thats good =p |
| 23:31.41 | Xandr | Ireland is white. I'd like it to stay that way. |
| 23:31.47 | ccox | give it some time |
| 23:31.49 | ccox | :-) |
| 23:31.51 | Xandr | Omg, that sounded rather inappropriate, didn't it/ |
| 23:31.52 | Gnarfoz | great, how do I get openvpn to clean this up :P |
| 23:31.59 | nevcairiel | reboot! |
| 23:32.08 | Gnarfoz | that's certainly going to do it |
| 23:32.22 | VIad | "Google Flu Trends uses aggregated Google search data to estimate flu activity" so not that accurate? |
| 23:32.44 | nevcairiel | it just measures how many people search for flu medicine =p |
| 23:32.57 | VIad | some flu medicine may have other purposes too tough |
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| 23:33.30 | nevcairiel | on the other hand, if you click the learn more link, the trends seem to be very close to data otherwise collected |
| 23:34.00 | ccox | Vlad: check their track record, google's estimate closely tracks the CDC data (which is delayed by weeks) |
| 23:34.30 | VIad | I'll read a bit |
| 23:35.36 | Gnarfoz | I want to know what file this is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xI_v8Nj_tRo :( |
| 23:36.12 | VIad | "kazoo" |
| 23:36.54 | VIad | grumle inn or? |
| 23:37.07 | nevcairiel | a lot of inns play this |
| 23:37.08 | Gnarfoz | no idea, I don't have the WoW music turned on |
| 23:37.22 | VIad | neither do I ;D |
| 23:37.27 | kd3 | if it's "kazoo", it's one of the pandaren inn themes |
| 23:37.27 | VIad | but I can try take a look in the mpqs |
| 23:37.32 | Gnarfoz | certainly a MoP tavern |
| 23:37.40 | Xandr | Well, according to iTunes it's /Volumes/Stuff/iTunes Media/Music/Various Artists/World of Warcraft_ Mists of Pandaria (Original Game Soundtrack)/19 Stormstout Brew.m4a |
| 23:37.40 | nevcairiel | yeah its a pandaren tavern |
| 23:37.42 | Gnarfoz | that's what I'm doing already VIad |
| 23:38.33 | Xandr | And yes, I know I'm not funny and I'll just shut up… |
| 23:38.44 | kd3 | whee |
| 23:39.02 | kd3 | blizz /just/ turned off the pvp flag on the isle of the thunder king |
| 23:39.09 | kd3 | I guess they'd like to get some raid testing done |
| 23:39.10 | VIad | :D |
| 23:47.23 | Gnarfoz | well, I can't find it |
| 23:47.34 | Gnarfoz | maybe I'm holding this mpq viewer wrong |
| 23:49.54 | VIad | Gnarfoz: not only you |
| 23:49.58 | VIad | gone trough the mpqs too :/ |
| 23:50.07 | VIad | could it be in the doodad folders? |
| 23:50.10 | VIad | sound/doodad? |
| 23:50.22 | VIad | nah must be in the sound\music one |
| 23:54.18 | VIad | I found it |
| 23:54.22 | VIad | I knew it was darkmoon fair related |
| 23:54.40 | VIad | the merry go round music |
| 23:54.46 | VIad | no wait |
| 23:54.50 | VIad | nvm I just got confused lol |
| 23:54.59 | VIad | I liked that xD |
| 23:55.02 | VIad | merry goround music |
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| 23:57.58 | VIad | are you sure this music is ingame? |
| 23:58.34 | Xandr | yep |
| 23:58.38 | Xandr | halfhill inn |
| 23:58.44 | VIad | what zone? all inns? some inns? |
| 23:59.18 | Xandr | halfhill I know for sure. I'm pretty sure the one in the most northern "town" in kun-lai and the one in north-east of krasarang have it too |
