| 00:00.04 | VIad | gradient background :P |
| 00:01.33 | bleeter | VIad: the shot I'm annoyed that I missed is the one where the bridge in this picture was 'glowing' orange http://www.rosebay.tased.edu.au/webcam/tiny.html |
| 00:02.01 | VIad | :( |
| 00:02.16 | VIad | just take the picture next sunset? :P |
| 00:02.20 | bleeter | VIad: can't locate the pic immediately, but a mate took it and we were all 'SHOPPED!' and he told us to go outside. an optical illusion of the grandest scale |
| 00:03.04 | bleeter | VIad: I suspect I'd need to start a few extra fires... pass :P |
| 00:03.11 | VIad | :P |
| 00:03.25 | VIad | when I mentioned photoshopped |
| 00:03.29 | VIad | I talked about http://users.on.net/~bleeter/pix/fierysunset.jpg |
| 00:03.29 | VIad | :P |
| 00:04.20 | bleeter | VIad: yeah I know :P (for the record, that's the canon 600d's internal jpeg routine on that pic, I do have the RAW still... but... meh ;) |
| 00:04.46 | VIad | can make a background of it |
| 00:04.50 | VIad | can remove the trees easily :P |
| 00:04.57 | mikma | http://imgur.com/gallery/DcyPe |
| 00:05.54 | bleeter | omg my brother's not seen Dave Chapelle's "Clayton Bigsby" skit.... |
| 00:06.34 | VIad | I haven |
| 00:06.38 | VIad | jees |
| 00:06.40 | VIad | I haven't either |
| 00:09.12 | mikma | bleeter: then you need to show him tyrone |
| 00:10.22 | bleeter | VIad: http://www.comedycentral.com/video-clips/7nnosh/chappelle-s-show-frontline---clayton-bigsby |
| 00:11.51 | VIad | surprise2d it isn't blocked by IP, nice |
| 00:12.42 | VIad | ah I've seen this :P |
| 00:12.45 | VIad | 2003 ;P |
| 00:12.49 | VIad | now I remember |
| 00:13.58 | VIad | it's a funny scetch |
| 00:14.22 | bleeter | bah, comedy central don't have the whole skit |
| 00:14.51 | bleeter | iirc it's on youtube somewhere where someone's flipped the vertical to not trip up the content matching |
| 00:15.28 | bleeter | which kinda surprised me that that works, 'coz it clearly means no content matching happened on just the audio track |
| 00:15.31 | bleeter | shrugs |
| 00:22.37 | VIad | [help,group] will it be valid on targets in my group, or if I am in group? :P |
| 00:26.28 | End_ | help will check against your target |
| 00:26.38 | End_ | and then it'll also check if you're in a group |
| 00:27.23 | foxlit | you want [help,raid] for the other meaning |
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| 01:09.21 | foxlit | http://pastebin.com/8fW8wyzq << Hurray. |
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| 01:26.55 | Semlar | cat |
| 01:27.04 | Semlar | call |
| 01:27.12 | Thunder_Child | fail |
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| 01:49.58 | foxlit | And now it parses all of FrameXML. Hurray! |
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| 01:51.42 | kd3 | neat |
| 01:52.07 | kd3 | looks for the image macro of Bender going "Neat!" and taking a picture |
| 01:52.54 | Mr_Rabies | http://g.virbcdn.com/_f/cdn_images/resize_640x640/b0/PageImage-512686-3753153-spiderman_neat.gif |
| 01:55.27 | Shirik | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-Y6pAMa_VY |
| 01:59.28 | Shirik | fu jnwhiteh |
| 01:59.41 | Shirik | now I'm getting ads all over the place for a 30mm canon lens |
| 02:00.13 | foxlit | why don't you just head on over to http://www.advertisers.com/ and tell them where your real interests lie? |
| 02:00.30 | foxlit | (also, why isn't that a thing?) |
| 02:00.54 | Shirik | because if everyone volunteered their information the US economy would collapse |
| 02:01.22 | Shirik | facebook and google are two of our biggest "exports" |
| 02:01.34 | Mr_Rabies | also, your mother |
| 02:01.47 | Shirik | that too |
| 02:06.05 | VIad | level 73 arms can't kill a 70 holy paladin |
| 02:06.17 | VIad | why is <81 broken? :P |
| 02:07.00 | VIad | blood dk too op with their aoe, don't even have to single attack me lol |
| 02:07.11 | Mr_Rabies | because balancing for low level content will always be in flux and heavily gear based, and may effect balancing at max level |
| 02:08.17 | VIad | why not just change formulas for >80 ? |
| 02:08.25 | Mr_Rabies | it's better to be forward-looking and not waste resources trying to balance old content |
| 02:08.32 | VIad | exactly |
| 02:08.41 | Mr_Rabies | you'd probably need a different formula for each class at each pvp bracket |
| 02:09.05 | VIad | imbalancing the old content by applying new formulas |
| 02:09.13 | VIad | where exactly does "not change old content" come in? :P |
| 02:10.17 | VIad | 5 people killed 1 70 holy paladin and we are 2+ levels higher than him |
| 02:10.21 | VIad | it's rofl |
| 02:11.08 | VIad | btw we fought him for ages :p |
| 02:11.18 | VIad | anyway, if they don't wanna change old content don't touch low level formulas for stats |
| 02:11.27 | VIad | they did in mop, that's why it's more broken now than before |
| 02:11.39 | VIad | each class is too op at certain level ranges now |
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| 02:12.37 | bluspacecow | hHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA |
| 02:12.43 | Mr_Rabies | if they didn't touch formulas at low level, rogues would still be one-shotting people in the 30s |
| 02:12.45 | bluspacecow | i just got mikma's botmail |
| 02:12.53 | Thunder_Child | No more drugs for blu |
| 02:12.56 | Mr_Rabies | wut |
| 02:12.57 | bluspacecow | http://imgur.com/gallery/DcyPe |
| 02:14.25 | VIad | justify blood dk using aoe button to kill someone with 10k hp in mater of seconds :p |
| 02:14.31 | VIad | aoe, doesn't even target me :P |
| 02:14.35 | VIad | it's rofl |
| 02:14.47 | VIad | or shadow priests healing for 5% mana to full hp, lol |
| 02:15.04 | VIad | fixing rogues to break like 5 other classes :P |
| 02:15.30 | VIad | can't break the shield of a shadow priest with my abilities, and I am arms |
| 02:16.28 | VIad | not to mention stuff like prot paladin with mastery exploit killing what ever he likes at 80 :P |
| 02:16.39 | VIad | like no testing what so ever for low level scaling |
| 02:16.56 | VIad | no real dev would change old stuff without deep testing |
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| 02:20.47 | VIad | to recap: mop broke low level scaling by applying new formulas for <=80 and that resulted in situations where weird results occur like completely imbalanced calsses and specs at various level ranges - instead they should only have applied their new math to the new expansion content and itemization and not touch the old one; not to mention it's easier to tweak a little rather than to change too much without proper testing, like it is now :P |
| 02:21.31 | Arrowmaster | you should have seen it when they tried to 'fix' cloak of shadows back in TBC |
| 02:21.48 | Arrowmaster | no it was cheat death |
| 02:22.12 | foxlit | you realize that class mechanics and itemization changed in 5.0, right? |
| 02:22.42 | Arrowmaster | in one patch a talent went from being great for leveling to being completely useless till you were max level and well geared |
| 02:23.28 | Arrowmaster | wow devs havent given a shit about anything not endgame/max level ever |
| 02:24.37 | Thunder_Child | I dunno about 'none' but i suspect most since there where the largest amount of time is spent |
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| 02:46.20 | pompy | lol look at that pricing http://store.steampowered.com/sub/18778/ |
| 02:47.46 | Seerah | holy moly! |
| 02:48.23 | Arrowmaster | but no dlc |
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| 03:05.54 | VIad | pompy: what games you recommend in THQ collection? |
| 03:06.45 | bluworkcow | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:06.58 | VIad | :3 |
| 03:08.40 | pompy | darksiders1/2, sr3, and the armegeddon game i guess! |
| 03:09.00 | pompy | http://www.amazon.com/gp/videofinder/ref=tsm_1_fb_s_amzn_mfva3a |
| 03:09.33 | VIad | is darksiders any good? |
| 03:12.13 | Ackis | VIad: I liked the first one enough to play through it 2-3x |
| 03:13.33 | durcyn | the windows port is a shitshow |
| 03:14.19 | bluworkcow | *noms ackis* |
| 03:15.01 | Ackis | eeep |
| 03:15.41 | bluworkcow | herro! |
| 03:20.27 | VIad | not all ports are bad, only the direct once :P |
| 03:20.44 | VIad | I think the unreal based games are okay when ported over |
| 03:20.57 | VIad | at least you got all the ini's to tweak if you like :P |
| 03:33.30 | Thunder_Child | I'm with durcyn on this one, the port was garbage |
| 03:34.35 | smcn | 2012 was a good year for pc ports, unfortunately the first darksiders came out in 2010 :P |
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| 04:17.04 | Thunder_Child | Damit, they are coming out witha new sim city game. |
| 04:17.27 | Thunder_Child | I think that's the only game i ever sucked at, but really enjoyed |
| 04:17.36 | Thunder_Child | with a* |
| 04:39.01 | Ackis | anyone here use bazooka and know how to keep the bars showing up when I do pet battles? :) |
| 04:39.59 | Seerah | I don't have an issue with docking station... |
| 04:40.00 | bluworkcow | yes use crazy gum |
| 04:40.10 | bluworkcow | a random seerah appears ! |
| 04:40.12 | bluworkcow | hi2u! |
| 04:40.16 | Seerah | do you have bazooka parented to something that's disappearing? Or does it have a setting for that? :p |
| 04:40.21 | Seerah | hai2blu! |
| 04:41.42 | Ackis | Seerah: changed the frame strata, maybe that'll help |
| 04:42.20 | Seerah | maybe. was all your stuff in the center and maybe just getting covered up then? |
| 04:43.10 | Ackis | no was the entire bar gone |
| 04:44.34 | Seerah | how's the strata going to help then? :p |
| 04:44.46 | bluworkcow | i dunno |
| 04:44.48 | bluworkcow | magic! |
| 04:45.21 | Ackis | Seerah: I dunno, magic? |
| 04:45.23 | Ackis | wait |
| 04:45.33 | Ackis | I didn't read what blu wrote until after I typed that |
| 04:45.42 | bluworkcow | copy cat |
| 04:45.46 | bluworkcow | *honks ackis* |
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| 05:41.38 | End_ | Ackis: there's an option you can toggle in the bars setting for each bar |
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| 06:03.04 | Thunder_Child | "Synopsis: When an island off the coast of Ireland is invaded by bloodsucking aliens, the heroes discover that getting drunk is the only way to survive." and yet it doesnt have a shit rating, amazing. |
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| 06:39.42 | pompy | Thunder_Child: and what is that |
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| 06:59.42 | bleeter | http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1525366/ |
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| 09:23.06 | haste | chiel: did you figure it out? |
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| 09:32.36 | Fisker | haste |
| 09:32.40 | Fisker | i figured you out |
| 09:37.33 | haste | really? |
| 09:38.14 | bluworkcow | <PROTECTED> |
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| 09:39.00 | Fisker | yep haste |
| 09:39.04 | Fisker | i got cheats for you now |
| 09:39.07 | Fisker | hey bluworkcow |
| 09:40.48 | bluworkcow | hihi |
| 09:41.05 | Fisker | don't hihi me bluworkcow |
| 09:44.33 | bluworkcow | lol |
| 09:56.14 | Fisker | don't do it bluworkcow |
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| 10:23.09 | Mr_Rabies | >that player cannot be kicked for another 4 hours |
| 10:23.11 | Mr_Rabies | excellent |
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| 10:53.53 | mikma | mr_rabies: stop being so violent |
| 10:54.18 | Mr_Rabies | he was running around with aspect of the pack on, and i asked him roughly every 5 minutes to take it off :( |
| 10:54.35 | Mr_Rabies | we also had a dk dps needing on everything they could |
| 10:55.04 | Mr_Rabies | i think my battlegroup is worse than others because everyone thinks i'm some kind of raging psychopath when i complain in here, but every group is like this :( |
| 10:55.22 | Mr_Rabies | well, 90% or so |
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| 13:02.47 | wereHamster | Expires: 2/1/2013 7:59 PM. Is that 1. February or 2. January? |
| 13:06.43 | zenzelezz | yes |
| 13:07.07 | zenzelezz | if I was to purely guess, I'd say first February; I don't know how many European countries use AM/PM |
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| 14:14.05 | karl_w_w | if I was to guess I would say january, given most people put them in the correct order |
| 14:17.25 | karl_w_w | In other news, I'm tempted to make a hunter just so I can call my pet richard parker |
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| 14:32.37 | Fisker | so new gpu's tonight Stanzilla ? |
| 14:35.21 | karl_w_w | I've just noticed how fucking ridiculously huge wow human forearms are |
| 14:36.45 | Fisker | why are you fucking mad karl_w_w ? |
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| 14:53.39 | karl_w_w | I'm not, Fisker |
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| 15:39.55 | Shirik | in the news today: NHL ends lockout. |
| 15:40.05 | Shirik | My addendum: Each team will play one game in the 2012 season |
| 15:40.31 | karl_w_w | that's not news |
| 15:40.44 | karl_w_w | you have to care about it for it to be news :P |
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| 16:59.38 | Semlar | mornin |
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| 17:41.56 | karl_w_w | it still baffles me how people can do 20k dps |
| 17:45.38 | Thunder_Child | because they are bad? |
| 17:46.50 | g0urra | http://i.imgur.com/mIOn0.png |
| 17:46.52 | Stanzilla | or naked |
| 17:46.54 | Stanzilla | or both |
| 17:47.07 | Stanzilla | or afk |
| 17:48.19 | karl_w_w | somebody just AFKed half the gajaral fight |
| 17:48.28 | karl_w_w | and he still did more damage than every1 except me |
| 17:48.29 | Thunder_Child | Oh please, they understand the need for viewers as much as anyone else. |
| 17:48.53 | Thunder_Child | is it really had to type out 'one'? |
| 17:49.43 | karl_w_w | the tank came 6th on boss dps |
| 17:49.44 | Thunder_Child | You make me hope humanity ends. |
| 17:49.48 | karl_w_w | facepalms |
| 17:49.58 | foxlit | see also: Discovery channel lineup |
| 17:51.01 | |Jelly|_ | TLC |
| 17:51.07 | foxlit | Tonight: "Body Invaders" "Biggest and Baddest" "Curiosity: Plane Crash" "Werner Herzog's Death Row" "Mafia's Greates Hits" |
| 17:51.40 | foxlit | slightly earlier: "World's Toughest Truckers" |
| 17:51.43 | foxlit | do. not. want. |
| 17:51.49 | karl_w_w | in australia all those shows are grouped onto the one channel for people to easily avoid |
| 17:54.41 | karl_w_w | www.foxtel.com.au/whats-on/tv-guide/ 607 a&e. the history channel actually has good stuff on it |
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| 17:56.07 | karl_w_w | but i believe that is most derived from the uk version of the history channel |
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| 18:08.25 | foxlit | What is this sequence of hex bytes: EF BB BF? |
| 18:08.42 | zenzelezz | UTF-8 BOM |
| 18:08.58 | Fisker | man zenzelezz |
| 18:09.10 | Fisker | you premeptively out-trolled me |
| 18:09.38 | zenzelezz | sry |
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| 18:11.04 | foxlit | zenzelezz: thanks :) |
| 18:11.49 | Fisker | it's ok zenzelezz |
| 18:11.51 | Fisker | i hope you don't die |
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| 18:23.02 | foxlit | What's a reasonable way to represent an IF/ELSEIF/ELSEIF/ELSE block in a syntax tree? |
| 18:24.04 | foxlit | I currently have IF -> THEN (-> CONDITION, -> BLOCK), ELSEIF (->CONDITION, -> BLOCK), ..., ELSE (-> BLOCK), but that seems awkward |
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| 18:26.49 | End_ | I'm not certain, but it might make more sense just do if/block/else and put your elseifs under your else as additional if nodes |
| 18:45.22 | wereHamster | foxlit: you can decompose if/elseif/else into a sequence of if/else blocks |
| 18:45.44 | foxlit | yes, but I'm more annoyed by the THEN than by the number of children on a node. |
| 18:49.56 | wereHamster | there will be only two children, the then and else blocks |
| 18:50.35 | foxlit | the if condition goes somewhere too |
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| 19:05.13 | foxlit | http://www.go-hero.net/i/ast.png << hurray for graphviz |
| 19:06.19 | foxlit | I'm under-parsing expressions, but it's close enough. |
| 19:07.32 | cbreak | http://phpsadness.com/static/pages/sad/52/order-full-eq.png |
| 19:07.38 | cbreak | graphviz rocks |
| 19:08.07 | foxlit | I think you were supposed to use a table for that image. |
| 19:09.32 | cbreak | it's not from me... Here's the final version of the maker: http://phpsadness.com/static/pages/sad/52/order-clean.png |
| 19:09.37 | cbreak | but it looks less impressive :) |
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| 20:25.24 | Semlar | adys: your script is patching the files correctly but the patch's listfile is overwriting the original file's so you can't get the file list, what it should do is when you patch it keep the original list file and just append the new one |
| 20:26.25 | Adys | Semlar: send a mail to ladik@zezula.net |
| 20:26.31 | Adys | thats stormlib's problem I think |
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| 20:27.13 | Semlar | will a patch ever remove a file from the base? |
| 20:27.27 | Adys | it could blank it out yes |
| 20:27.36 | Adys | can never fully be removed |
| 20:27.37 | nevcairiel | wouldnt the game just stop using it |
| 20:27.59 | Semlar | the path should still work though? |
| 20:28.36 | Semlar | i was going to just rebuild the list file in the script |
| 20:29.31 | Semlar | i guess it doesn't really matter if the path works or not, it'll know if it can't open the file |
| 20:29.54 | Adys | hmm |
| 20:29.59 | Adys | actually it might be my fault |
| 20:30.08 | Adys | can you try patching things in mpqeditor? |
| 20:30.17 | Adys | (zezula.net downloads) |
| 20:32.14 | Semlar | the mpq editor is capable of listing all the files when you patch the base |
| 20:32.51 | Adys | hmm |
| 20:32.54 | Adys | might be my fault |
| 20:33.08 | Adys | im on my laptop right now. try changing the algorithm in patch() or listfile() or something |
| 20:33.37 | Adys | its possible i get the listfile after applying the patch while it should open it with the unpatched flag |
| 20:33.39 | Adys | dont know |
| 20:33.44 | Adys | might need to ask ladik |
| 20:34.28 | Semlar | as far as i can tell you only generate the list file if namelist is called, and then it caches it so it never recreates the list |
| 20:35.14 | Semlar | if not self._listfile: |
| 20:35.16 | Semlar | self._regenerate_listfile() |
| 20:35.17 | Semlar | return self._listfile |
| 20:35.37 | Adys | try forcer regenerate? |
| 20:35.54 | Semlar | if you regenerate the list after the mpq is patched it returns only the list of files in the patch |
| 20:36.14 | Semlar | so i was going to generate the listfile every time you opened an mpq and then merge the new listfile after it gets patched |
| 20:37.10 | Semlar | MPQExtFile(storm.SFileOpenFileEx(mpq, self.LISTFILE, 0), self.LISTFILE) this is how it's getting the list file |
| 20:38.14 | Cairenn|afk | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:39.07 | Semlar | it's possible the mpq editor just calls storm.SFileFindNextFile to get all the files |
| 20:40.18 | Adys | I strongly doubt it |
| 20:40.27 | Adys | mpqeditor is really fast and that function would be slow to call on large mpqs |
| 20:40.28 | Semlar | well, it uses the mask you type in at the top |
| 20:40.46 | Adys | please do ask zezula |
| 20:40.53 | Adys | i cant right now, and i have another plane tomorrow |
| 20:42.20 | Semlar | there's also one that only searches the listfile, i'll try and see if it is restricted to only the patch's file list too |
| 20:47.32 | Adys | uh wait |
| 20:47.35 | Adys | how am i getting the file list |
| 20:47.42 | Adys | am i reading (listfile)? |
| 20:47.46 | Adys | Cause that would explain it |
| 20:47.50 | Semlar | yeah |
| 20:47.56 | Adys | yeah ok |
| 20:48.00 | Semlar | you're just opening "(listfile)" |
| 20:48.06 | Adys | storm has a function for that, dont know why im not using it |
| 20:48.24 | Adys | the one that searches the listfile, pass * as arg |
| 20:48.44 | Adys | if you can get that working send me a patch, I dont know when i can get to it |
| 20:48.56 | Semlar | okay |
| 20:52.15 | Adys | oh yeah thats why i didnt implement it ... |
| 20:52.51 | Adys | id have to bind searching properly |
| 20:53.06 | Adys | urgh win32-style apis make me shiver |
| 20:56.06 | Fisker | man Adys |
| 20:56.19 | Fisker | i need an addon that replaces the rolling animation on coin rolls with troll face |
| 20:58.33 | bleeter | Fisker: modify http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info8583-HighRoller.html |
| 21:03.11 | Semlar | yeah you don't appear to have added SListFileFindFirstFile |
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| 21:05.21 | Semlar | adys |
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| 21:39.51 | Adys | Semlar:aye |
| 21:40.08 | Semlar | i just hacked something together |
| 21:40.33 | Semlar | it probably broke some of the functions i don't use but i'm not too worried about that |
| 21:42.48 | Semlar | i just have it make ._listfile when it's initialized and every time add_archive or patch is called it reads the new list file and merges it with the old one |
| 21:44.15 | Semlar | self._listfile = list(set(self._listfile + newListfile)) |
| 22:04.35 | bleeter | that's a lot of smoke haze http://www.rosebay.tased.edu.au/webcam/tiny.html |
| 22:07.31 | VIad | 70 retri paladin can kill me in 4 seconds with me being on 12k hp and I am 73 (he is green) :D |
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| 22:07.37 | VIad | itemization ftw |
| 22:11.38 | VIad | http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/rajaxx/Tritog%C3%AAnia/simple :P |
| 22:12.30 | VIad | twinks in non-xp locked games |
| 22:46.32 | Semlar | nobody queues for experience locked games |
| 22:47.29 | Semlar | the pvp armor at low levels is super, super cheap so if you were using battlegrounds to level you would easily have a full set for every bracket |
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| 23:58.52 | bleeter | Semlar: I tried queuing for XP locked game.... got my arse so severely chewed up and spat out never again |
