| 00:00.53 | Fisker | please |
| 00:01.07 | Fisker | your military buddies obviously renounced their citizenship by having a different IP |
| 00:03.04 | Zootfizzle | Obviously |
| 00:03.46 | Fisker | wouldn't have thought they actually had the bandwitdh over there |
| 00:04.40 | Zootfizzle | I have military friends in Japan and South Korea since I was a SE Asian linguist |
| 00:04.50 | Zootfizzle | They have more bandwidth than I do |
| 00:04.55 | Zootfizzle | They just can't access any of the content |
| 00:04.57 | Zootfizzle | It's funny |
| 00:05.34 | Fisker | :D |
| 00:06.22 | Stanzilla | one could say that those countries are promoting piracy! |
| 00:06.35 | Zootfizzle | Indeed! |
| 00:06.39 | Zootfizzle | Time to declare war! |
| 00:06.48 | Zootfizzle | Good thing we have expatriated military over there |
| 00:07.38 | Zootfizzle | Off to conquer suburbia |
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| 00:34.57 | VIad | Semlar: tomorrow you help me QA my dkp addon for $$$ |
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| 00:45.25 | Stanzilla | I want $$$ |
| 00:45.50 | pompy1 | You will only get $$ |
| 00:46.05 | VIad | maybe $ |
| 00:47.35 | Cairenn|afk | pompy1: awww, kitteh! |
| 00:48.19 | pompy1 | heh |
| 00:48.39 | pompy1 | http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/16213_10200146506490292_963662638_n.jpg what a horrible slogan |
| 00:50.56 | Ackis | pompy1 |
| 00:50.57 | Ackis | y u ignorem e? |
| 00:51.08 | Ackis | is it because I called you french? |
| 00:51.17 | Ackis | (I'd ignore me too if I called me french) |
| 00:51.48 | Stanzilla | I heard Ackis is part french |
| 00:52.00 | Ackis | nein |
| 00:52.20 | Stanzilla | oh doch |
| 00:52.39 | pompy1 | http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/557784_4714950356606_1330173102_n.jpg |
| 00:54.30 | Thunder_Child | he is all douche however |
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| 02:29.55 | pompy1 | Arrowmaster: http://www.emptylifebar.com/?p=10156 THQs first move? |
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| 02:48.11 | Semlar | hm |
| 02:48.33 | Semlar | the file in the mpq is 304kb, it extracts as 4kb of basically nothing |
| 02:49.18 | Semlar | i must be misunderstanding how the incremental patches work |
| 02:53.28 | karl_w_w | badly is how they work |
| 02:54.27 | Semlar | i thought the mpq editor saying it would merge them would you know, merge the files with the new ones |
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| 03:05.33 | Semlar | okay, wow-update-base-16309.mpq is wiping out all of the data from the previous patches |
| 03:05.49 | Semlar | merging appears to work as long as i leave that out |
| 03:06.45 | Semlar | i should just leave off the patches |
| 03:07.33 | Semlar | how important could they be |
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| 03:32.46 | Zoot|afk | w00t |
| 03:33.13 | Zootfizzle | Got a full refund for my Amazon Kindle Fire HD by complaining about the full screen ads for deodorant every time I opened the cover |
| 03:33.19 | Zootfizzle | Time to buy a Nexus 7 like I should have |
| 03:33.27 | Zootfizzle | I'm sorry I doubted you Googleverse please forgive me |
| 03:33.32 | Zootfizzle | I know you're archiving this somehow |
| 04:16.02 | Semlar | http://purl.rikers.org/%23wowuidev/ |
| 04:26.39 | Mr_Rabies | aren't the full-screen ads just for the cheaper, ad-supported model :o |
| 04:27.05 | Iriel | Mr_Rabies: I think that's the only model now, though you can pay to suppress them |
| 04:27.49 | Mr_Rabies | ah |
| 04:27.54 | Mr_Rabies | well, that's about the same thing then |
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| 05:39.16 | karl_w_w | anyone US wanna do LFR TOES with me? |
| 05:41.30 | Semlar | http://i.imgur.com/J8gmD.jpg o gawd |
| 05:41.50 | kd3 | yay |
| 05:42.07 | kd3 | I was going to ask "can you draw the area boundaries on the map?" and you did |
| 05:42.21 | Semlar | i can heeeaar your thoughts |
| 05:42.29 | Semlar | they aren't actually square |
| 05:42.42 | kd3 | it's a good first-order approximation |
| 05:42.44 | Semlar | i'm just tracking their max height and width boundaries |
| 05:43.44 | pompy1 | http://www.facebook.com/ApSci/posts/10151351079270605 |
| 05:50.06 | Semlar | kd3, mikma: http://semlar.com/navi.zip that's a little basic addon with the map stuff if you want to play with it |
| 05:54.57 | kd3 | ah, hell |
| 05:55.05 | kd3 | http://blogs.aljazeera.com/topic/syria/poisonous-gas-sprayed-homs-leaves-seven-people-dead-and-scores-affected-activists-say |
| 05:57.13 | Neffi | why does blue bloodfang transmog have to have puffy boots =( |
| 05:57.20 | karl_w_w | is it possible to show only posts you've liked on sum1 else's timeline? |
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| 06:50.51 | kd3 | gah, blah |
| 06:51.02 | kd3 | looted anzu, saw purple, got excited, noticed it was a gem |
| 06:54.22 | Neffi | curses |
| 06:55.20 | Neffi | grabbed a whole handful of Hershey kisses |
| 06:55.24 | Neffi | they're fucking almond ones |
| 06:55.44 | Semlar | might as well suicide.. |
| 06:56.40 | Neffi | i just may |
| 07:00.00 | Semlar | http://i.imgur.com/4hw0R.jpg this is a definite improvement over the blizzard map |
| 07:01.11 | Neffi | Head west on the Great Green Rectangle until you cross into the Purple Plane. If you hit the Red Square, you've gone too far. |
| 07:01.24 | Semlar | it's all red square! |
| 07:01.32 | Semlar | WHAT DO I DO |
| 07:01.56 | Neffi | you're fucked man |
| 07:02.04 | Neffi | you're lost in the red void |
| 07:02.20 | Semlar | that's the Great Sea |
| 07:02.33 | Semlar | it's quite a bit bigger than the map itself |
| 07:03.05 | Semlar | so.. aptly named i suppose |
| 07:03.45 | Neffi | sometimes when i'm bored i go to daily spots and kill people that just want to quest |
| 07:03.53 | Neffi | my adventures are so interesting |
| 07:04.08 | kd3 | hey, it's a pvp server. pvp problems have pvp solutions |
| 07:04.14 | Neffi | exactly |
| 07:04.24 | Neffi | and as far as I'm concerned, peoples existence is a pvp problem |
| 07:04.54 | Neffi | anyway they're 90 too, so there's no reason I should always come out alive |
| 07:05.04 | Neffi | i'm teaching them valuable lessons in not sucking |
| 07:07.07 | Semlar | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XA3QLgoieNQ this is me pvpin it up in low def |
| 07:08.59 | Neffi | clearly hax0ring |
| 07:09.06 | Semlar | deathknight |
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| 07:15.27 | Semlar|Mobile | alright, i have a package that just shipped from a place about 2 hours from my house |
| 07:15.41 | Semlar|Mobile | the delivery estimate is between dec. 31st and january 16th |
| 07:16.01 | Semlar|Mobile | i'm just picturing them driving around in circles |
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| 07:24.13 | Neffi | seems about right |
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| 07:50.52 | Stanzilla | https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/413913_511156692252149_521720786_o.jpg |
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| 08:08.07 | Neffi | Stanzilla: Awesome |
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| 08:56.34 | Neffi | Should I make a Blingatron? |
| 08:58.46 | Zootfizzle | I'm sure the answer to that question is yes |
| 08:58.51 | Zootfizzle | Even though I have no idea what you're asking |
| 09:00.17 | Neffi | http://www.wowhead.com/item=87214 |
| 09:01.41 | mikma | semlar: will try when i get home later today |
| 09:11.32 | xyphoid_ | what kind of engineer are you if you don't |
| 09:15.11 | Neffi | one that might be better off with all that gold |
| 09:15.59 | Neffi | Any horde on Korgath US? |
| 09:16.06 | Neffi | Go log in and fly to Thuner Bluff. I want to kill you. |
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| 09:34.32 | kullervo | neffi, that sounds so sweet |
| 09:34.43 | Neffi | Trying to get achieve |
| 09:34.51 | mikma | pffff |
| 09:34.52 | Neffi | moved onto Undercity already, if you're up to get killed |
| 09:34.56 | kullervo | I figured |
| 09:35.04 | mikma | i wanna get home and play |
| 09:35.12 | Neffi | Surprisingly I handled a 90 DK with 350k health and about 20 guards at once. Was fun. |
| 09:35.13 | mikma | stupid holiday |
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| 11:15.35 | Neffi | When did rangom BGs become the biggest hellhole of botting, cheating, terrible players, 12 year olds and every other manner of infuriating thing? |
| 11:15.54 | Neffi | WoW never used to be like this |
| 11:18.29 | Maldivia | BGs have always been like that |
| 11:19.00 | Neffi | Never nearly this bad at pretty much any point in WoW history pre-Cata |
| 11:19.11 | Neffi | There was less botting in vanilla for god's sake |
| 11:20.36 | Maldivia | ok, BGs since you could queue from everywhere |
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| 11:22.35 | Humbedooh | less nagging, more watching of the daily grump |
| 11:58.08 | VIad | this makes no sense... addon_loaded fires but my variable is not initialized >.< |
| 12:29.41 | Neffi | VIad: check if arg1 == name of your addon |
| 12:29.47 | Neffi | you could be seeing the wrong ADDON_LOADED |
| 12:29.48 | VIad | it is |
| 12:29.49 | mikma | semlar: oh that's gonna be a good addon, just checked it out :) |
| 12:29.58 | Neffi | honestly just use VARIABLES_LOADED |
| 12:30.06 | Neffi | It's more obvious |
| 12:30.50 | VIad | I had a discussion with someone and VL is for blizzards stuff :P |
| 12:31.24 | VIad | but I wonder why addon_loaded fires before the SV fully load |
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| 12:33.21 | VIad | "Fires when non-addon-specific saved variables are loaded. Addons should generally use ADDON_LOADED to determine whether their saved variables have loaded." |
| 12:33.27 | VIad | damn |
| 12:34.03 | Neffi | " I had a discussion with someone and VL is for blizzards stuff" that's a completely arbitrary conclusion to come to |
| 12:34.26 | Neffi | V_L fires after all A_L are finished |
| 12:34.38 | mikma | semlar: i'm not sure, but is there some areas still missing, see Dun Morogh for example |
| 12:34.46 | Neffi | If A_L isn't loading your SVs, you definitely have a bug somewhere. That's a different story. But there's nothing wrong with using V_L |
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| 12:35.57 | VIad | what kind of bug, Neffi? :P |
| 12:36.10 | VIad | no lua errors and no framexml.log issues :D |
| 12:36.25 | Neffi | Semantic |
| 12:36.37 | Neffi | if you have a saved variable, then at your A_L it should exist |
| 12:36.42 | Neffi | if it doesn't, you failed to save it somehow |
| 12:36.49 | Neffi | or your code is incorrectly checking |
| 12:37.20 | VIad | hmm |
| 12:37.25 | Neffi | probably a typo. check that all references to it are spelled correctly |
| 12:37.28 | Neffi | .toc included |
| 12:37.35 | Neffi | and make sure the line is correctly written |
| 12:37.43 | Neffi | eg now ## SavdeVariables: |
| 12:37.46 | VIad | the only "setter" is in the file root in cases SV don't exist, so it loads a empty table |
| 12:37.48 | Neffi | not* |
| 12:37.50 | VIad | yeah |
| 12:38.02 | Neffi | I feel that's a terrible way of doin things |
| 12:38.20 | VIad | well, another addon I have works fine for me and many others, but some days ago a guy reported the SV not saving at all :P so go figure |
| 12:38.27 | Neffi | If your code needs an empty table to fall back on before the actual table is loaded, then it could be doing something it's not supposed to |
| 12:38.30 | VIad | well the core file is read long before the SV load :) |
| 12:38.57 | VIad | actually it shouldn't use the SV before it has loaded, just a reminder for me :P |
| 12:39.07 | Neffi | ANYTHING that depends on SV data existing should be bundled into a function(s) and explicitly called after SVs are loaded |
| 12:39.17 | Neffi | nothing should expect SV to exist before SV should exist |
| 12:39.24 | Neffi | otherwise you open yourself up to bugs creeping in |
| 12:39.55 | Neffi | Anyway, if it's one person reporting a problem it might not be your fault |
| 12:40.07 | Neffi | file permissions could be causing their problem |
| 12:40.25 | VIad | this is weird lol |
| 12:40.37 | VIad | the variable is loaded at the loaded event |
| 12:40.38 | Neffi | Post your code? Link to the addon? |
| 12:40.43 | VIad | but later it becomes un-loaded :P |
| 12:40.45 | VIad | gonna research |
| 12:41.00 | Neffi | you literally cannot unload |
| 12:41.01 | VIad | I has a theory.. |
| 12:41.09 | Neffi | that doesnt make sense in the Lua environment |
| 12:41.13 | Neffi | it's being set to nil somehow |
| 12:41.30 | Neffi | trace the parts of code that touch the SV |
| 12:41.34 | VIad | found the culprit |
| 12:41.44 | Neffi | I'm going for a cig. I'll help in a few. |
| 12:42.33 | VIad | :3 |
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| 12:49.58 | VIad | fixed it; was a part of the code that I made a typo when rebuilding; it was supposed to fill in missing option values, but it started with "blank" options instead of the current table, i.e. SV :P |
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| 12:53.40 | VIad | thanks for brainstorming with me Neffi :) |
| 12:56.32 | Neffi | np |
| 12:59.04 | VIad | but |
| 12:59.20 | Neffi | but? |
| 12:59.30 | VIad | what if a user reports your addons SV don't save, but it's limited to your addon only? |
| 12:59.49 | Neffi | You can't *guarantee* it's a bug in your addon |
| 12:59.54 | VIad | refering to, for example, http://www.curse.com/addons/wow/battlepettabs#c27 |
| 12:59.55 | Neffi | could still be a permissions issue |
| 13:00.26 | Neffi | If it's one person reporting only, it's one of two things: |
| 13:00.45 | Neffi | it's on their end with SV saving, which could be all sorts of things like file permissions, corruption, etc |
| 13:00.55 | Neffi | or its in your code but it's an edge-case bug that's very rare |
| 13:01.24 | Neffi | eg I had a bug in my code for ages but because of the way it functioned, I didn't see the issue until 3 years after I wrote it, even when a few other people ran it too |
| 13:01.39 | Neffi | which is why it's a good thing to keep things simple and straightforward |
| 13:02.13 | Neffi | if you've traced your code and see no possible bugs relating to SV saving, it's probably on his end. Unless you start seeing more reports, don't worry about it |
| 13:02.28 | VIad | I had some before, when I used LOD |
| 13:02.33 | VIad | made it to load with blizzards code |
| 13:02.39 | VIad | worked for me, but not for anyone else lol |
| 13:02.50 | VIad | so remade it into a normal addon, no LOD :P |
| 13:02.59 | Neffi | IMO LOD is pointless |
| 13:03.20 | Neffi | I don't think there's an addon in existence that uses enough RAM that it needs to offset loading |
| 13:03.33 | VIad | it's just to reduce the initial loading process |
| 13:03.43 | VIad | if blizzard made all their 20 extra LOD addons load at login |
| 13:03.49 | Neffi | You need to ask yourself if it's actually making any difference |
| 13:03.53 | VIad | you'd be waiting a bit more, especially if you don't have the latest machine |
| 13:03.59 | VIad | yeah I think it does :P |
| 13:04.10 | VIad | if I disable my addons the game loads much quicker, and I got maybe 20 addons |
| 13:04.21 | VIad | if you add blizzards on top, probably doubled my loading time |
| 13:04.27 | Neffi | Out of curiousity I wrote a script to trace the amount of time it took to load every one of my addons, which together comprise an entire UI (unit frames, combat text, cooldown tracker, etc) |
| 13:04.40 | Neffi | it was so low that GetTime() showed it as taking 0 seconds |
| 13:04.56 | Neffi | by and large the vast majority of the loading screen is loading the game world |
| 13:04.58 | VIad | hehe |
| 13:05.10 | VIad | but GetTime depends on frames doesn't it? |
| 13:05.26 | VIad | if you have a while script to lock your screen, I think it would also say it ran for 0 seconds :D |
| 13:05.33 | Neffi | the vast majority of loading just the UI is in compiling the code into bytecode, not the actual execution. And by and large, the vast majority of that is Blizzard's code, since it's so fucking massive |
| 13:05.49 | Neffi | I used debugprofilestart/stop and it still returned a miniscule number |
| 13:06.04 | Neffi | GetTime now only updates once per OnUpdate |
| 13:06.27 | Neffi | But my conclusion was valid. LOD offsetting provides no gain under >99.9% of cases |
| 13:06.44 | VIad | ops |
| 13:06.48 | VIad | ran /run local t,i=GetTime(),0 while i<0xffffffff do i=i+1 end print(GetTime()-t) lol |
| 13:06.53 | VIad | maybe a bit too large number :P |
| 13:07.01 | Neffi | No addon would take long enough to load that it would actually be perceptible to the user. If it did, then loading it after the initial load screen would cause a very noticeable client freeze anyway |
| 13:07.07 | Neffi | so it's best left to loading at the screen |
| 13:07.14 | Neffi | Like I said, LOD is pointless |
| 13:07.24 | VIad | why did blizzard make the LOD system? |
| 13:07.38 | Neffi | In other environments I'm sure it makes a lot of sense |
| 13:07.51 | Neffi | and I'm sure somebody can some up with some edge-case where it's *slightly* favorable |
| 13:08.07 | Neffi | but I doubt their theoretical benefit actually pans out in real-world cases |
| 13:08.17 | Neffi | if it did, it's just showing a problem with their code |
| 13:08.40 | VIad | :D |
| 13:09.07 | Neffi | Look at it this way |
| 13:09.17 | Neffi | Once upon a time it was all the rage to do things like: local print = print |
| 13:09.21 | Neffi | because it's "faster" |
| 13:09.29 | Neffi | until somebody realized it wasn't and every author stopped doing it |
| 13:09.45 | Neffi | once upon a time it made sense to LOD things to save memory, until people actually thought about it and realized it wasnt |
| 13:10.16 | Neffi | some authors still separate config from addon core and LOD the config. most authors dont because it provides no benefit. |
| 13:10.45 | VIad | if you have a separate module that is LOD with your addon, you control when it loads :P |
| 13:10.51 | VIad | without having to type extra code |
| 13:11.05 | Neffi | That's the only case where LOD should be used |
| 13:11.05 | VIad | module wise LOD helps easily disable or enable parts of your addon |
| 13:11.14 | Neffi | eg a library. It doesn't need to load if any addons don't need it |
| 13:11.27 | Neffi | yes, that is actually one case where LOD is very useful |
| 13:11.29 | VIad | or for instance WeakAuras LOD options module loads 50MB of data, pointless unless you wanna configure stuff |
| 13:11.59 | Neffi | So I'm wrong in saying it's useless. But in the context that the LOD is doing nothing BUT prolonging a load that IS going to heppn, it's pointless |
| 13:12.10 | VIad | aye |
| 13:12.16 | Neffi | If your config module is loading 50 MB of data, rethink your perspective |
| 13:12.46 | VIad | you know what weakauras is right? |
| 13:12.54 | Neffi | I do but I don't use it |
| 13:12.56 | VIad | the options load all different textures, models, e.g. |
| 13:13.01 | VIad | :D |
| 13:13.09 | VIad | has a internal lib of all model paths |
| 13:13.18 | Neffi | for the database to be a whopping 50 MB, they must not have put any thought into it |
| 13:13.38 | VIad | not sure how else you can do it :P |
| 13:13.44 | Neffi | But even in that case I'll argue it's useless to LOD it |
| 13:13.47 | VIad | option 2 is letting users enter the model paths manually |
| 13:13.52 | Neffi | 50 MB is nothing. WoW itself uses ~1 GB. |
| 13:14.14 | VIad | yeah but why load it during loading process when you probably don't need to configure it each session? ; |
| 13:14.33 | VIad | screen freezes for 3 sec when I open it, that's 3 less sec spent in loading window :D |
| 13:14.39 | Neffi | If you want to argue for reduced RAM usage, it's stupid. Your addon is not running on an embedded system with 256 MB of RAM. If the computer is powerful enough to run WoW, it's powerful enough to handle the extra 50+ MB. |
| 13:14.53 | Neffi | 3 sec at a loading window is much less perceptible than you think |
| 13:15.00 | Neffi | placebo effect is pretty strong |
| 13:15.15 | Neffi | 3 sec client freeze when a user expects to interact with something is VERY perceptible |
| 13:15.17 | VIad | I got a old machine from 2008 :( |
| 13:15.19 | VIad | show me some mercy |
| 13:15.23 | Neffi | it's completely the wrong philosophy to LOD that |
| 13:15.45 | Neffi | 50 MB ain't doing you any damage if you're capable of running WoW already |
| 13:15.56 | Neffi | plus static data will get swapped |
| 13:16.05 | Neffi | so it won't consume RAM when not being used |
| 13:16.35 | Neffi | You're working in a managed environment. The people that wrote this environment (Lua core, WoW itself, the OS's memory infrastructure) are fucking smart and experienced. Trust them |
| 13:17.22 | VIad | I don't know, lot's of hate going on about windows from mac/linux users |
| 13:17.40 | VIad | :P |
| 13:17.51 | Neffi | I hate Windows too, but I use it |
| 13:18.01 | Neffi | I hate Windows' UI stack with a passion |
| 13:18.26 | VIad | exactly, so how can I trust them? :P |
| 13:18.32 | Neffi | but the Windows NT kernel is a very good piece of engineering. Anyone who denies that doesn't know what they're talking about and I'd challenge them to write an OS as good as the NT kernel |
| 13:18.56 | Neffi | the people that made the Explorer.exe UI aren't the same people that made the NT kernel |
| 13:19.15 | Neffi | You put your best men on the important stuff, and your worst on shit that doesnt matter |
| 13:19.41 | VIad | I never understood why the windows UI is so bad, I mean, I disable the useless stuff and I got a pretty plain UI to work with, does enough I figure |
| 13:20.01 | VIad | looked around for some linux builds, looked at their UIs, nothing "wow this is so much more better" |
| 13:20.01 | Neffi | If you want a personal perspective, I fucking HATE both Gnome and KDE |
| 13:20.11 | Neffi | but that doesn't mean I hate Linux, GNU and FreeBSD |
| 13:20.29 | VIad | so far I haven't found a OS that provides the functionality and a UI that I can consider best |
| 13:20.35 | Neffi | Ubuntu is a great OS because it's got some brilliant people writing its core. That doesn't mean every part of it is perfect. |
| 13:20.56 | Neffi | Because it's all subjective |
| 13:21.06 | Neffi | Computers are by and large the most general-purpose devices in our modern lives |
| 13:21.12 | Neffi | They need to cater to everybody |
| 13:21.24 | Neffi | hence, it won't be perfect for ANYBODY, but it will be good enough |
| 13:21.49 | Neffi | People that need it perfect take the time to look into other window managers and software, and change things as they see fit |
| 13:22.14 | Neffi | that's why Linux is so popular among computer enthusiasts. Hate Gnome? Remove it and drop in your own window manager and a set of software |
| 13:22.43 | Neffi | Those people tend to hate Windows precisely because doing the same thing to their shitty UI is a lot more painful, and sometimes impossible |
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| 13:33.57 | Torhal | wonders when Neffi will run E17. |
| 13:34.08 | Neffi | E17? |
| 13:34.23 | Torhal | Enlightenment finally had another release after 12 years. |
| 13:35.12 | Neffi | never used it, and not using *nix currently |
| 13:35.32 | Neffi | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:35.33 | Torhal | Aah. I toyed around with it back in the day, but now I'm using OSX |
| 13:35.53 | Neffi | I only got into *nix like 4-5 years ago |
| 13:36.06 | Neffi | "Back in the day" probably refers to shit that went down before that |
| 13:37.09 | Torhal | Like I said, they just had a new release after 12 years :) |
| 13:37.37 | Neffi | looks interesting |
| 13:37.40 | Neffi | but I love tiling WMs |
| 13:37.58 | Neffi | and I've got a lot of ideas written down in multiple books for when I eventually write my own |
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| 13:39.27 | Neffi | is this motherfucker serious? |
| 13:39.33 | Neffi | trying to kill me in fresh quest greens? |
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| 13:43.43 | mikma | yes |
| 13:44.02 | mikma | you should just /dance |
| 13:44.27 | Neffi | i actually just /lol'd at him and walked away. but then he tried to steal my trillium. |
| 13:44.30 | Neffi | he had to die |
| 13:44.44 | Fisker | hey bluipodcow |
| 13:44.48 | Fisker | i hope you don't die for christmas |
| 13:45.17 | bluipodcow | Unfortunately I am working over Xmas :( |
| 13:45.27 | Fisker | oh ok |
| 13:45.33 | Fisker | then i hope you do die for christmas |
| 13:51.14 | Neffi | WoW is really a lot less fun without people to play with |
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| 13:55.41 | Neffi | is there any programmatic way to find out how many Anticipation charges exist (rogue 90 talent)? |
| 13:58.15 | Neffi | nvm i see it stacks a buff |
| 13:58.27 | Neffi | that really is a beautiful talent |
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| 14:31.06 | Kraps | .http://i.imgur.com/pRwHS.jpg |
| 14:36.16 | bluipodcow | Lol |
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| 14:38.41 | haste | Neffi: you get a buff, don't you? |
| 14:38.50 | haste | ah, you noticed |
| 15:12.39 | Semlar | mikma: yeah it isn't complete |
| 15:13.03 | Semlar | the subzones should be more or less complete though |
| 15:21.36 | mikma | semlar: first thing i did was comment all seas out |
| 15:21.53 | Semlar | i should say, the information from the files i was parsing is probably complete |
| 15:22.01 | Semlar | the rest is from other sources |
| 15:24.35 | Semlar | there's a very large amount of data i haven't been able to figure out yet |
| 15:24.55 | Semlar | i think it's associated with objects themselves |
| 15:25.25 | Semlar | like buildings and stuff |
| 15:25.40 | Semlar | so when you enter one it changes the subzone text |
| 15:26.23 | mikma | did you have a look at dun morogh |
| 15:26.24 | Semlar | i think you'd have to identify where the object were placed |
| 15:26.32 | Semlar | the zone? |
| 15:26.45 | mikma | ya |
| 15:26.46 | Semlar | did you say the whole place was missing |
| 15:26.59 | mikma | nope |
| 15:27.12 | rtharper | Hyvää juolua, mikma |
| 15:27.14 | mikma | looks like some parts pn left |
| 15:27.20 | rtharper | and merry christmas to everyone else |
| 15:27.38 | mikma | rtharper: kiitos samoin, rakas |
| 15:27.54 | rtharper | lol |
| 15:27.57 | Semlar | can you print GetCurrentMapAreaID |
| 15:28.09 | rtharper | is that a common thing to call your male friend, mikma? =p |
| 15:28.29 | mikma | rtharper: in this case |
| 15:29.06 | rtharper | aha |
| 15:29.10 | rtharper | mikma: I think I want to learn Finnish |
| 15:29.41 | mikma | rtharper: suomi finland perkelr |
| 15:29.55 | rtharper | haha |
| 15:30.03 | rtharper | Do you speak good Finnish? |
| 15:30.18 | mikma | tpyo |
| 15:31.10 | mikma | laaaaaaggy phone |
| 15:32.01 | mikma | well i try yo speak formally in public |
| 15:32.27 | mikma | because, if you don't, you look like a asshole teenager :D |
| 15:32.32 | Semlar | you mean the stuff inside the starter zones are missing on the bigger map? |
| 15:32.44 | Semlar | that's just because they belong to the smaller one |
| 15:32.49 | mikma | semlar: yeah, the area next to gnomeregan looks incomplete? |
| 15:32.57 | mikma | oh, oooh |
| 15:33.04 | Semlar | if you open tinkertown it has them |
| 15:33.09 | Semlar | but i know what you mean |
| 15:33.11 | mikma | oh you can zoom in more |
| 15:33.14 | mikma | nvm then! |
| 15:33.20 | Semlar | i'm going to convert it to global coordinates instead of how it is now |
| 15:33.29 | mikma | global, GOOOOOOD |
| 15:33.48 | Semlar | this is mostly to simplify the testing addon |
| 15:33.53 | mikma | rtharper: saippuakauppias |
| 15:34.33 | mikma | semlar: i like the way it's going already. i tested it out and marveled the squares in zones xD |
| 15:34.56 | mikma | lol, brb, christmas dinner |
| 15:35.26 | Semlar | i mean right now if you change the ^_^ |
| 15:35.52 | Semlar | right now if you change the map level the squares go with it |
| 15:37.26 | Semlar | since it's just going off the area id |
| 15:37.37 | Semlar | but that's a minor issue |
| 15:44.47 | Semlar | i will need to blacklist the stupid seas |
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| 15:53.16 | Semlar | i think the map dimensions i had for ammen vale were way off |
| 15:54.33 | Semlar | which would almost have to mean they're wrong in the file |
| 15:55.26 | Semlar | i suppose that's not true, i could be calculating something wrong |
| 15:57.51 | mikma | maybe |
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| 15:58.05 | Semlar | i think i know what the problem is |
| 15:58.12 | mikma | braiiiiins |
| 15:58.27 | Semlar | brains and one of the numbers that i was expecting to be positive is probably negative |
| 15:59.05 | mikma | so basicly the coords are not available ingame, but you need to extract them from data? |
| 15:59.35 | Semlar | what do you mean |
| 15:59.58 | Semlar | the coordinates for the maps or the things i'm adding to them |
| 16:00.54 | mikma | coords for the names in the navi.lua |
| 16:01.22 | Semlar | yeah none of that is available in game |
| 16:01.47 | mikma | another thing, when you get there, put the data in separate lua file |
| 16:01.49 | Semlar | and it's really actually fairly complicated to get out of these files |
| 16:02.23 | Semlar | i do need to move it to its own file |
| 16:03.10 | mikma | for that reason you are the man doing it. i wouldn't do all the location extracting |
| 16:03.18 | mikma | i would add interesting places in manually, lol lol |
| 16:04.26 | Semlar | i'm going to try and get object data later, but i'm going to be pretty busy this week |
| 16:04.58 | Semlar | i have no idea if it's even possible |
| 16:05.06 | mikma | i won't be, i'm off from work until 3.1.2013 ;D |
| 16:05.41 | Semlar | i'm assuming the objects themselves are placed client side |
| 16:05.49 | Semlar | so it has to be in there somewhere |
| 16:07.03 | Semlar | actually i know they're placed client side i just don't know how accessible the information is |
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| 17:26.26 | Semlar | mikma do you think the actual shape of the subzone really matters because it would make the database several times larger |
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| 17:58.42 | Ackis | Starcat 2: http://i.imgur.com/pRwHS.jpg |
| 17:59.04 | Lopeppeppy | Looks unimpressed with the view out of his helmet, there. |
| 18:00.31 | Semlar | i think he looks interested in whatever he's looking at |
| 18:00.57 | Semlar | look how dilated those pupils are |
| 18:01.45 | mikma | semlar: no, no actual shapes. the general directions for the placenames are more than enough |
| 18:02.14 | Semlar | okay |
| 18:02.31 | Lopeppeppy | Those are chibi eyes, Semlar, not interested eyes. A cat with eyes that interested wouldn't have downward whiskers. |
| 18:03.24 | A-KO | Oh god this is too good |
| 18:03.27 | A-KO | #oprollredroll on twitter |
| 18:03.33 | A-KO | lol |
| 18:07.37 | Ressy | ? |
| 18:09.10 | kd3 | oh, that's the high school in ohio covering up the rape case |
| 18:11.09 | Ressy | geez |
| 18:16.24 | Lopeppeppy | Nuke 'em from orbit. |
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| 19:10.05 | Jamash | cluck cluck, I'm a duck |
| 19:12.25 | Lopeppeppy | Bang, you're Christmas dinner. |
| 19:13.31 | Jamash | rude |
| 19:13.40 | mckenziemc | tickles Lopeppeppy |
| 19:13.42 | Lopeppeppy | Delicious. |
| 19:14.32 | Adys | http://i.imgur.com/u9V2j.jpg |
| 19:14.35 | Adys | Busy day. |
| 19:15.24 | Lopeppeppy | That's awesome, Adys. |
| 19:15.45 | Adys | http://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/602805_10151197587763589_277367608_n.jpg |
| 19:15.47 | Adys | original |
| 19:15.59 | Lopeppeppy | My grocery is 24 hours, and I haven't visited it before 9pm for the past week. Probably won't until after New Years. Parking lot fuckery is not my style. :) |
| 19:17.38 | Jamash | I like how they're just standing there marveling at it |
| 19:18.02 | Jamash | "can't tell if impressed or upset" |
| 19:18.53 | Lopeppeppy | Sometimes you just shake your head and give up. I worked retail for 6 years - seen a lot of awesome-stupid stuff. |
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| 19:29.40 | bleeter | Iriel: actually, the winterviel disguise kit is broken. can't delete the li'l bugger out of the mail without destroying last year's present first ;) |
| 19:30.24 | bleeter | Iriel: yeah yeah, I know. I just like being more right than you on a quibbling technicality :D |
| 19:30.48 | Lopeppeppy | mutters something to Cairenn about "males". |
| 19:31.07 | kd3 | >.> |
| 19:31.09 | Iriel | Since I was just hypothesizing on what might be a solution to your dilemma, rather than answering a question - it doesn't bother me at all 8-) |
| 19:31.14 | Cairenn | giggles |
| 19:31.19 | bleeter | rolls his eyes and mutters something about 'grils' |
| 19:31.28 | Lopeppeppy | Thank the gods that Iriel is a reasonable guy! |
| 19:31.28 | bleeter | Iriel: woots :) |
| 19:31.36 | bleeter | Lopeppeppy__ |
| 19:31.38 | bleeter | bah |
| 19:31.41 | bleeter | Lopeppeppy++ |
| 19:31.53 | kd3 | ~Lopepeppy++ |
| 19:32.13 | bleeter | I think purl's ++ syntax is nonstandard, iirc |
| 19:32.18 | bleeter | ~Lopeppeppy+ |
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| 19:32.25 | bleeter | no? maybe that's some other bot |
| 19:32.26 | Iriel | And now I have to work up the courage to go to a UPS facility on christmas eve |
| 19:32.41 | Lopeppeppy | She does something with karma, but I forget her syntax. |
| 19:32.42 | kd3 | it'd help if we could spell her name right, probably. but it's purl who does that |
| 19:32.43 | bleeter | Iriel: after slapping me down, it should be *easy* :P |
| 19:33.39 | bleeter | karma, yes. that was the word. thx Lopeppeppy. |
| 19:33.58 | bleeter | my excuse is it's 06:30 christmas morning and I've just finished wrapping presents and haven't had my coffee yet |
| 19:34.10 | bleeter | ~emulate bleeter |
| 19:34.11 | purl | ACTION rant RANT rant waaa MOAR COFFEE <sub>GOOD IDEA</sub>rant waa MOAR COFFEE rant rant MOAR MOAR <blink><h1>terribad idea</h1></blink> rant |
| 19:34.16 | bleeter | hey |
| 19:34.24 | bleeter | has anyone noticed, along with how stupid tailors are |
| 19:34.26 | Fisker | hey kd3 :) |
| 19:34.36 | kd3 | 'lo |
| 19:34.39 | bleeter | that enchanters are probably THE most stupid professionals ever? |
| 19:34.40 | Fisker | happy i hope you don't die day everyone |
| 19:34.40 | bleeter | they're like |
| 19:34.58 | Krapsy | wow bleeter rude |
| 19:35.06 | bleeter | "Hey, I'm level 35, I know how to enchant this stick. (cut to level 40) Enchanting sticks? what's with that? gtfo!' |
| 19:35.11 | Iriel | notes Iriel is a Tailor + Enchanter |
| 19:35.22 | Fisker | me too Iriel |
| 19:35.28 | Fisker | high fives Iriel |
| 19:35.30 | bleeter | like they've had a frontol lobotomy near level 35 and have forgotton how to make wands |
| 19:35.32 | Fisker | btw |
| 19:35.37 | Fisker | noone can hug on irc anymore |
| 19:35.39 | Iriel | Aka the "masochist's combo" - Hope you dont like gold. |
| 19:35.41 | Fisker | microsoft patented |
| 19:35.41 | Fisker | it |
| 19:35.56 | Iriel | Fisker: only if you vibrate while doing it |
| 19:36.11 | Fisker | oh ok |
| 19:36.12 | bleeter | Iriel: my current main is a tailor enchanter as well. the lack of tailor bag and having to use a dagger on a holy priest is what set me off ;) |
| 19:36.22 | Iriel | bleeter: maybe the problem is there's no woodworking profession - and thus no source of more awesome sticks? |
| 19:36.35 | Iriel | It is odd that blizzard got bored of wands tho |
| 19:36.50 | bleeter | particularly after they did the offhand/ranged foo thing |
| 19:37.49 | bleeter | Iriel: there's a whole bunch of wordplay on major and minor wood that Blizz are missing out on too ;) |
| 19:37.53 | Lopeppeppy | I'd love to see a paladin with a wand. Hilarious. |
| 19:38.52 | bleeter | my current favourite is the perma-fart animation |
| 19:38.54 | Iriel | bleeter: or perhaps they're NOT missing out - the next in the sequence was going to be "morning wood" and they fired the designer, and now everyone's too afraid to finish it off? |
| 19:39.40 | bleeter | Iriel: I refuse to believe Blizz fired the sole designer with a deep appreciation of double entendres |
| 19:40.08 | bleeter | best as I can tell, most of them are twisted perves >< |
| 19:41.35 | Iriel | Doesn't that more or less describe any "random" collection of reasonably intelligent people. |
| 19:42.04 | Iriel | Sort of the "oh hey, I have an imagination…. Heeeeeey!" |
| 19:42.12 | Iriel | consequence |
| 19:44.29 | bleeter | dunno, i don't hang around with pervs :P |
| 19:44.42 | Lopeppeppy | Okey Dokey, not liking windows 8 very much... Rawr. |
| 19:45.01 | bleeter | Lopeppeppy: oh dear. forced upgrade or choice? |
| 19:46.01 | Lopeppeppy | Kinda forced - came with the new laptop. I didn't think it would be that big a deal... except that I need Firefox for work. And I cannot install it for the life of me. Everything else I've downloaded to install has been fine. Firefox.... not. |
| 19:46.46 | kd3 | the MoFo has shipped a metro version of fx at this point, haven't they? |
| 19:46.51 | Iriel | hands bleeter a flash of extra strength denial; You're using so much you're probably running low 8-) |
| 19:47.14 | Iriel | Ok.. idle while i deal with UPS tedium. |
| 19:47.43 | Lopeppeppy | Supposedly, kd3. But my ancient and creakity and dying CMS won't function with that modern version of Firefox. :) |
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| 19:48.27 | Lopeppeppy | Wonder what happens when I..... *giggle* BRB. |
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| 19:51.25 | mikma | a-ko: so what's the deal with that twitter thingy now |
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| 19:57.18 | Kaylin1 | note to self, wrong network adapter to disable. |
| 19:57.59 | mckenziemc | nice |
| 19:58.40 | Kaylin1 | I was like and don't need this device and don't need this device and don't need this device wait wrong one. |
| 19:59.43 | Semlar|Mobile | >_> |
| 20:00.49 | Kaylin | bbs, reboot |
| 20:02.51 | mikma | cairenn: http://imgur.com/gallery/VeEA1 |
| 20:03.11 | Cairenn | heh |
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| 21:54.29 | bleeter | iron sky is a very silly film |
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| 21:56.29 | bleeter | LOL |
| 21:56.35 | bleeter | Hello Bleeter |
| 21:56.36 | bleeter | The following items on your wishlist are on sale: |
| 21:56.42 | bleeter | Call of Duty®: Black Ops - 0% off! |
| 21:56.58 | bleeter | *great sale, Steam!* |
| 21:57.19 | Arrowmaster | why would you have that on your wishlist |
| 21:57.22 | Cairenn | Merry Christmas all [who celebrate it], in case I don't 'see' you again between now and post-Christmas day. |
| 21:58.06 | bleeter | Arrowmaster: my wishlist is more of a 'must remember to check out how the reviews are in a few weeks' kinda thing and then I forget... |
| 21:58.36 | bleeter | hugs Cairenn |
| 21:58.50 | Cairenn | hugs bleeter, and everyone else too! |
| 22:01.29 | bleeter | a very very silly film |
| 22:02.06 | bleeter | all I want for Christmas is the next XPac to be space nazis from the dark side of the moon |
| 22:05.34 | cbreak | http://www.ironsky.net/? |
| 22:06.31 | bleeter | yes |
| 22:07.50 | cbreak | do you like manga? or majong? |
| 22:08.21 | cbreak | or mangas about majong and nazis from the moon fighting putin, tatcher and the former prime minister of japan? |
| 22:08.24 | cbreak | (and the pope?) |
| 22:09.11 | bleeter | that could work |
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| 22:10.00 | Arrowmaster | Google Now is telling me theres a birthday today, why hasnt the topic been updated |
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| 22:10.26 | cbreak | "The Legend of Koizumi". Worth reading. :) |
| 22:10.35 | Fisker | because noone cares about jesus Arrowmaster |
| 22:10.42 | cbreak | Every day is a birthday |
| 22:11.04 | Arrowmaster | im not sure if Fisker is just being Fisker or he actually knows whos birthday im referring to |
| 22:11.48 | bleeter | Happy Summerviel all https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOWs63NLdCk |
| 22:11.51 | bleeter | (nsfw) |
| 22:11.52 | Fisker | i know Arrowmaster |
| 22:11.53 | Arrowmaster | if he knows then its fucking hilarious |
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| 22:13.08 | *** topic/#wowuidev by Cairenn -> http://pastebin.com || 5.1.x ToC: 50100 || #WoWUIDev-commits: CIA & JIRA bots reporting || Battletags: http://goo.gl/2bm7n || This channel is logged, via purl || Happy Holidays everyone! || Happy Birthday Torhal! |
| 22:13.33 | Fisker | wow |
| 22:13.57 | Fisker | "happy birthday... nah screw this i'm afk" |
| 22:13.58 | Fisker | D: |
| 22:14.28 | Arrowmaster | ok i gota go pickup my dad now |
| 22:17.32 | bleeter | safe travels Arrowmaster |
| 22:19.15 | Fisker | hope you don't die |
| 22:19.38 | cbreak | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWOAK9eBheE |
| 22:19.48 | bleeter | cbreak: I'll try and remember to check it out :) |
| 22:19.55 | bleeter | koizumi |
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| 22:38.14 | g0urra | merry christmas! |
| 22:38.24 | Thunder_Child | No, I refuse |
| 22:40.01 | mckenziemc1 | too bad |
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| 23:42.31 | Kraps | hey guys i have 4 copies of DOTA 2 anyone want one |
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| 23:45.02 | g0urra | what, for free? |
| 23:45.30 | Kraps | yes? |
| 23:46.15 | Humbedooh | I'd take one then :> |
| 23:46.22 | g0urra | me too |
| 23:46.43 | Kraps | i'm kraps on steam |
| 23:47.02 | Thunder_Child | I already have one because i am awesome |
| 23:47.10 | Kraps | or just tell me your steam name |
| 23:47.34 | Humbedooh | I'm uhm...I can't remember :\ prolly Humbedooh as usual, but I can't check that till tomorrow. So guess I have to pass on your kind offer |
| 23:48.14 | Thunder_Child | Humbedooh: you can check via the web interface |
| 23:48.29 | Kraps | No group or player records were found matching your search terms. |
| 23:48.55 | Humbedooh | Dear humbedooh, .... <- sent from steam, so that's gotta be it |
| 23:49.29 | Thunder_Child | not exactly |
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| 23:49.52 | Kraps | yeah theres profile name and account nam |
| 23:49.54 | Kraps | e |
| 23:49.54 | Thunder_Child | Humbedooh: log into steamcommunity.com then check the url, whats after id/? |
| 23:51.44 | Kraps | g0urra, you recently played counterstrike and live in sweden? |
| 23:52.00 | g0urra | I live in sweden but haven't played counterstrike |
| 23:52.39 | Kraps | never? |
| 23:52.51 | g0urra | no |
| 23:53.12 | Kraps | 843.3 hrs on record |
| 23:53.14 | Kraps | ... |
| 23:53.25 | g0urra | wut |
| 23:53.30 | g0urra | I'm g0urra on steam |
| 23:53.40 | Humbedooh | says http://steamcommunity.com/id/humbedooh |
| 23:53.52 | Kraps | oh damn i missed the u |
| 23:54.16 | Humbedooh | at least you didn't add an l like most people :3 |
| 23:54.28 | Humbedooh | humbledooh me here and there and everywhere :| |
| 23:55.02 | Torhal | stalks Humbedooh on Steam. |
| 23:55.11 | Humbedooh | not much so see really ;) |
| 23:55.25 | Kraps | this makes more sense, you are in 3 wow related groups g0urra |
| 23:55.34 | g0urra | :P |
| 23:55.36 | Humbedooh | the only ever time I've really had to play games these past months is now :) |
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| 23:55.54 | Torhal | Did you mean "had to play" or "had time to play"? |
| 23:56.19 | Humbedooh | meant time I've had for playing games |
| 23:56.25 | Humbedooh | not forced to play :) |
| 23:56.28 | Torhal | Hehe |
| 23:56.35 | Thunder_Child | too bad, that was more amusing |
| 23:57.29 | Kraps | Humbedooh, Playing time: 0.0 hrs past 2 weeks |
| 23:57.34 | Kraps | that you right :p |
| 23:57.57 | Humbedooh | Kraps: like I said, I haven't had much time to play games as of late, and what I have been playing hasn't been Steam based :) |
| 23:58.35 | Humbedooh | mostly ubisoft stuff and uhm..mass effect 'cause I missed out on that when it launched |
| 23:58.47 | Humbedooh | and Hitman, which I found lacking :( |
| 23:58.56 | Thunder_Child | that's why i use raptr so i get an overview of time wasted |
| 23:59.11 | Kraps | ok i sent you guys requests |
| 23:59.12 | Humbedooh | I'd prefer not knowing that number myself ;) |
| 23:59.15 | Humbedooh | <3 |
| 23:59.23 | Humbedooh | Kraps: merry christmas, santa! |
| 23:59.44 | Kraps | i cant i'm jewish |
| 23:59.49 | Kraps | :D |
