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| 00:11.17 | bleeter | Fisker: USPTO = incompetent |
| 00:11.24 | Fisker | not at all |
| 00:11.53 | TC-work | wow....remind me not to run my scripts through pylint |
| 00:12.20 | TC-work | Global evaluation |
| 00:12.20 | TC-work | ----------------- |
| 00:12.20 | TC-work | Your code has been rated at 1.22/10 |
| 00:12.24 | TC-work | *sigh* |
| 00:16.01 | Primer | Not enough significant whitespace? |
| 00:16.20 | TC-work | mostly about indentation with tab instead of space |
| 00:16.25 | TC-work | but i prefer tab |
| 00:16.58 | TC-work | or "C0324: 70,3: Comma not followed by a space" ...i mean, really? |
| 00:16.59 | VIad | lol TC-work :D |
| 00:17.04 | Primer | Guido thinks you're wrong |
| 00:17.26 | Primer | No, you mean "i mean,really?" |
| 00:17.32 | Primer | [sic] |
| 00:17.58 | TC-work | ~lart Primer |
| 00:17.58 | purl | lowers Primer's priority |
| 00:18.11 | End_ | I tried running pylint on some python 3 code |
| 00:18.13 | End_ | it didn't like it |
| 00:18.14 | TC-work | or "C0301: 82,0: Line too long (192/100)" |
| 00:18.41 | End_ | (strangely still managed to get 3.54/10) |
| 00:19.00 | TC-work | ah hah, this new one is "Your code has been rated at 0.93/10" |
| 00:19.11 | TC-work | At least it's getting more impressive |
| 00:20.11 | End_ | apparently it really hates not being able to import modules |
| 00:20.46 | TC-work | which is kinda odd, because i got that as well, but it does work |
| 00:20.49 | End_ | guess it wouldn't like patterns like try: import simplejson as json except ImportError: blah blah blah |
| 00:21.05 | End_ | part of my issue is that I work in a virtualenv |
| 00:21.24 | End_ | the other issue is that it's the wrong version of python ;-p |
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| 00:23.04 | TC-work | so i made some changes and now i got "Your code has been rated at 0.86/10 (previous run: -9.71/10)" |
| 00:23.13 | TC-work | I think i need to win an award now |
| 00:23.16 | End_ | haha |
| 00:23.54 | End_ | some of these warnings are confusing |
| 00:25.37 | End_ | "Too few public methods (0/2)" |
| 00:27.29 | TC-work | It's giving me crap because i don't capitalize my vars? |
| 00:27.32 | TC-work | i think |
| 00:28.28 | End_ | it probably expects you to follow PEP8's coding style |
| 00:29.39 | End_ | I don't expect it to work with the code I ran it on, but I did notice it seemed to confuse some non-constants as constants |
| 00:37.12 | VIad | is it possible to compile both 32 and 64 bit into one executable? :3 |
| 00:38.18 | End_ | not that I know of |
| 00:39.28 | VIad | hmm, what about creating a 64 bit process from a 32 bit executable or the other way around? |
| 00:41.02 | End_ | that sounds even less likely, although 64bit processors can run 32bit or 64bit so long as the operating system supports it and the proper libraries exist |
| 00:47.42 | Arrowmaster | VIad: when i was younger i was wearing size 12 and even 13 shoes just so i could get them wide enough, now that im able to find proper wide shoes yeah my shoe size is shrinking |
| 00:49.12 | Arrowmaster | so i just had to call a 1-800 support number to be emailed the download location for software to a new blood pressure monitor my dad got, no links to it on their site and nothing in the books that came with it other than 'call or email for software updates' |
| 00:49.55 | Arrowmaster | luckly its just a page listing everything so if there ever is a new version it will be on the page i now know about instead of having to ask for a new link |
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| 00:58.14 | Stanzilla | @steam_games: Steam for Linux Beta Now Available to All: The Steam for Linux beta is open to all! http://t.co/QI7aELIU http://t.co/ZxcX20yA |
| 01:01.20 | pompy | Stanzilla: "an source"!? :P |
| 01:02.03 | Arrowmaster | they let in the dirty peasants? |
| 01:02.15 | Stanzilla | pompy: what |
| 01:02.23 | Arrowmaster | also i find this really funny http://www.tv.com/features/best-of-2012/vote/poll/SpecialFeatures:list:best-drama-series |
| 01:02.23 | pompy | http://www.facebook.com/Steam/posts/10151192380942339 |
| 01:02.43 | pompy | http://www.facebook.com/Steam/posts/10151192380942339?comment_id=24803042&offset=0&total_comments=14 |
| 01:03.14 | Stanzilla | I don't get what you are trying to tell me :( |
| 01:03.22 | pompy | read their post |
| 01:03.55 | Stanzilla | I did :o |
| 01:04.53 | pompy | oh nm, it got cut off in the news feed description |
| 01:04.54 | pompy | meh |
| 01:05.06 | Stanzilla | damn you |
| 01:05.11 | pompy | rwar |
| 01:19.36 | Cairenn|afk | pompy: yup, saw it |
| 01:21.20 | A-KO | OH GOD DAMN NO |
| 01:21.28 | A-KO | Bronycon is coming to my city the weekend before Otakon |
| 01:31.28 | TC-work | <PROTECTED> |
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| 01:33.29 | mckenziemc1 | whatever that means |
| 01:45.10 | Mr_Rabies | yayyyy gazmik updated his stuff |
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| 01:46.26 | Mr_Rabies | i really wish he'd put it on curse, but i'm sure he's got reasons not to |
| 01:48.40 | Stanzilla | some people just don't like money |
| 01:51.01 | Adys | [20:12:53] <VIad> nevcairiel or maybe Ackis or Adys may know |
| 01:51.03 | Adys | know what? |
| 01:51.25 | Seerah | Stanzilla: surprisingly enough, that's not always the reason |
| 01:51.41 | Stanzilla | Seerah: yeah some people just hate curse |
| 01:51.43 | Stanzilla | with a passion |
| 01:51.49 | Seerah | well, that, too |
| 01:52.09 | Stanzilla | what's the reason you are thinking of? |
| 01:52.28 | Seerah | pita to upload to multiple sites, watch multiple sites, etc, etc |
| 01:53.12 | Stanzilla | true, but that became a lot easier when wowi added repos |
| 01:53.13 | Arrowmaster | Adys: it was a discussion about rDNS and why it exists |
| 01:53.35 | Seerah | how does wowi having a repo make it easier to upload to curse? |
| 01:53.58 | Stanzilla | Seerah: because you can just push to two repos at once |
| 01:54.16 | Adys | meh |
| 01:54.26 | Adys | i looked into rdns at some point but i got bored |
| 01:55.01 | Stanzilla | but I guess wowi has no packager, right? |
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| 01:55.05 | Primer | Well this is fucked up. I bought a new motherboard, mem, and video card, put it together and it was solid for several hours. Then I noticed one entry in device mangler showed no driver, a usb 3 controller. Downloaded the driver, installed. Today the ethernet is dying. This is EXACTLY the same problem my previous motherboard had! |
| 01:55.24 | mckenziemc | heh |
| 01:55.30 | Arrowmaster | Primer: maybe its the switch/router? |
| 01:55.32 | Primer | One thing of note is that the problem with the old motherboard only started when I enabled the on-board sound |
| 01:56.06 | Primer | Arrowmaster: one would think that a likely candidate, except I had added a PCI gigabit card to that old board and the problem went away |
| 01:56.49 | Primer | you know what, I just thought of something. I also discovered that the AP I have connected to that one switch was disconnected |
| 01:56.49 | Seerah | Stanzilla: I haven't seen anything about that, but still not really worth it. ;) And, no, you create zips manually on wowi and push them after confirming their contents |
| 01:57.10 | Primer | I've seen bad devices take out switches before |
| 01:57.45 | Primer | obviously I plugged it back in |
| 01:58.13 | Primer | the clip at the end of the ethernet cable broke and the way it's mounted cause gravity to pull on the cable |
| 02:08.58 | VIad | Adys: I forgot :P |
| 02:13.54 | kd3 | gah. vendorstrike? seriously? |
| 02:14.14 | VIad | you can do it on your alts too, hope for the drop :) |
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| 02:18.59 | VIad | anyone want the extracted armory java sourcecode? |
| 02:19.02 | VIad | :P |
| 02:21.00 | nilyaK | o.O |
| 02:21.03 | nilyaK | whaa? |
| 02:22.56 | VIad | you know android apk files are java, and you can reverse engineer any java file |
| 02:23.23 | nilyaK | I didn't know there was a different armory for android I thought they just used the website =/ |
| 02:23.25 | VIad | can extract code, can't directly compile it, but gives enough information to see how it works :P |
| 02:23.40 | kd3 | the armory app |
| 02:23.48 | nilyaK | suspects your phone is rooted. |
| 02:23.49 | kd3 | which is also remote guild chat/ah/etc |
| 02:24.17 | nilyaK | do you have the login sequence for wow remote gchat? I'd take that |
| 02:24.21 | VIad | http://vlacula.no-ip.com/com.blizzard.wow_32.apk.src.zip |
| 02:24.28 | VIad | that's why I ask, it's in there somewhere |
| 02:25.07 | VIad | ideally you can have a easy to access guild/friend chat :D |
| 02:25.29 | nilyaK | or a plugin for pidgin if I knew how to compile plugins for pidgin and didn't get bored of this after 2 hours |
| 02:25.40 | VIad | :P |
| 02:27.15 | VIad | someone of us reverse engineered the authenticator software, same deal, maybe said person could do it again with the chat :P |
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| 02:29.24 | nilyaK | should grab a packet log of the login sequence ::P |
| 02:29.41 | VIad | encryption is probably a part of the equation |
| 02:29.46 | VIad | hence why the sources would be handy |
| 02:30.20 | nilyaK | yea I know |
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| 02:30.51 | nilyaK | though the normal wow login sequences are documented |
| 02:30.55 | nilyaK | as are all the previous games |
| 02:31.23 | StevePRGM | can someone walk me through the steps to create a simple addOn? |
| 02:31.32 | VIad | nilyaK volunteers |
| 02:31.38 | VIad | 0330 so gonna sleep soon :P |
| 02:32.08 | StevePRGM | i'm trying to make an addOn that prints ("hi") when it loads.. |
| 02:32.12 | kd3 | http://www.wowpedia.org/Getting_started_with_writing_addons |
| 02:32.39 | StevePRGM | i made these 3 files and it didn't owrk |
| 02:32.40 | StevePRGM | work* |
| 02:32.49 | Rythal | what's that VIad? your volunteering to write a guild chat login/api before bed? |
| 02:32.56 | VIad | :D |
| 02:32.59 | nilyaK | http://www.wowpedia.org/AddOn_programming_tutorial/Introduction |
| 02:33.33 | VIad | StevePRGM: most important is the folder and toc file names must be the same and the addon folder must be in the addon folder, in the toc you define what lua files it loads in what order :P |
| 02:33.56 | VIad | go to http://addon.ziuo.net/ and make a basic addon structure if you have troubles |
| 02:34.33 | Rythal | that's not most important >< most important is ... it should be Hello World not Hi |
| 02:34.50 | VIad | !lua print"HELLO WORLD!" |
| 02:34.50 | batbot | VIad: HELLO WORLD! |
| 02:35.14 | VIad | purl, say hello |
| 02:35.14 | purl | hello |
| 02:35.17 | VIad | :D |
| 02:35.53 | VIad | purl, say purl, say purl say, purl say, hi |
| 02:35.53 | purl | purl, say purl say, purl say, hi |
| 02:36.00 | VIad | ah purl is smart ;) |
| 02:36.13 | Rythal | purl, sing the doom song |
| 02:36.14 | purl | ACTION sings off-key at the doom song |
| 02:36.23 | VIad | purl, who is Rythal |
| 02:36.23 | purl | I think you lost me on that one, VIad |
| 02:36.29 | VIad | ~whois Rythal |
| 02:36.39 | VIad | purl whois Rythal |
| 02:36.41 | Rythal | i'm unknown *cries* |
| 02:36.44 | VIad | :( |
| 02:36.53 | nilyaK | http://www.bnetdocs.org/?op=doc&did=32 can I link bnet docs here? |
| 02:37.08 | VIad | I don't know, why not? |
| 02:37.09 | TC-work | why would you link it then ask? |
| 02:37.19 | nilyaK | bc it's not harmful |
| 02:37.28 | TC-work | but then why would you ask? |
| 02:37.32 | VIad | just documentation stuff |
| 02:37.33 | nilyaK | idk |
| 02:38.06 | Stanzilla | udumbro? |
| 02:38.23 | VIad | Stanzilla I miss you commenting on how stupid my names are, go on now.. |
| 02:38.25 | nilyaK | yes actually |
| 02:38.28 | StevePRGM | OMG IT WORKED!!! =D |
| 02:38.41 | Stanzilla | VIad: I thought you got pissed by that so I stopped :D |
| 02:38.51 | StevePRGM | awesome |
| 02:38.53 | Rythal | hurray! your on your way to going bald in frustration writing addons! |
| 02:38.55 | VIad | oh? I thought you got bored |
| 02:39.00 | StevePRGM | :D |
| 02:39.09 | Stanzilla | dunno |
| 02:39.14 | Stanzilla | I don't like it when people hate me |
| 02:39.20 | Stanzilla | I'm the opposite of Arrowmaster :( |
| 02:39.27 | VIad | I am the last person to hate anyone here |
| 02:39.31 | VIad | people usually hate me, I forgive them :P |
| 02:39.43 | Rythal | I'm use to people hating me. |
| 02:40.04 | VIad | it's not their fault, they don't know any better ;) |
| 02:40.05 | Arrowmaster | what? |
| 02:40.14 | Stanzilla | Arrowmaster: I love you |
| 02:40.33 | VIad | purl, say !lua print "hi Arrowmaster :3" |
| 02:40.33 | purl | !lua print "hi Arrowmaster :3" |
| 02:40.34 | batbot | purl: hi Arrowmaster :3 |
| 02:40.34 | purl | Many greetings, Arrowmaster :3, most strange traveller, to this IRCdom of plenty. |
| 02:44.17 | VIad | Rythal: do you like java? |
| 02:44.21 | nilyaK | garalon with 1 fps, I have no idea what is going on |
| 02:45.40 | VIad | oh well, we'll talk more tomorrow |
| 02:45.46 | VIad | purl, say goodnight |
| 02:45.47 | purl | goodnight |
| 02:45.53 | VIad | purl, goodnight |
| 02:45.53 | purl | Have a goodnight! |
| 02:45.59 | VIad | goodnight |
| 02:48.19 | Arrowmaster | http://i.imgur.com/E7Oay.jpg |
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| 03:17.29 | Shirik | what the fuck |
| 03:17.39 | Shirik | like 6 cops just showed up at one of my neighbors houses, siren and lights |
| 03:18.09 | Shirik | I didn't even know we had that many in this town |
| 03:18.16 | Shirik | they might have called other neighboring towns |
| 03:18.31 | Dark_Elf | must be a gun deal |
| 03:18.42 | Seerah | can you see the doors of the squad cars to tell? |
| 03:19.05 | Shirik | no it's way too dark |
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| 03:25.18 | pompy | hide! |
| 03:26.31 | xyphoid_ | fun times |
| 03:27.20 | TC-work | Shirik: "I didn't even know we had that many in this town" the. fuck. |
| 03:27.32 | Shirik | dude |
| 03:27.36 | Shirik | our police station closes |
| 03:27.45 | Shirik | like it has a sign on it sometimes that says "come back later" |
| 03:28.08 | TC-work | I assume that's because everyone is out at a scene |
| 03:28.09 | TC-work | but still |
| 03:28.14 | TC-work | that's whak |
| 03:28.19 | TC-work | whack? |
| 03:31.47 | Arrowmaster | my town officially became a city in the 2000 census, we only have 3 officers on duty for the night shift |
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| 03:48.42 | Dark_Elf | hmm got an error with prat today |
| 03:49.14 | Dark_Elf | oh well it will get fixed someday |
| 03:53.31 | kd3 | ok wow. don't skip the pulls between huhupants and the emps |
| 03:53.57 | TC-work | none of that sentence is ok. |
| 03:54.16 | Arrowmaster | i understood it |
| 03:54.58 | TC-work | that's not what i am referring to |
| 04:11.25 | Dark_Elf | ingame like 10 minutes and already been guild invited 4 times, lol |
| 04:11.44 | bluspacecow | guild less are we ? |
| 04:12.00 | Dark_Elf | couple were level 25 guilds |
| 04:12.15 | bluspacecow | oooooo |
| 04:12.22 | bluspacecow | wegotabaddassguildhere.jpg |
| 04:13.56 | Dark_Elf | if it wasnt for the fact im on a 10 day blizzard thing i probably would of joined and robbed their guild bank like so many b4 |
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| 04:42.55 | kd3 | neat. too bad there's no code, but neat nonetheless |
| 04:43.00 | kd3 | https://github.com/ValveSoftware/steam-for-linux |
| 04:45.01 | karl_w_w | i cant believe people still pay $30+ for hdmi cables |
| 04:45.49 | TC-work | People are stupid and or ignorant. It's never going to change. |
| 04:46.43 | Dark_Elf | cant beleive people still pay $30+ for wow either but that besides the point :p |
| 04:47.45 | Dagmar | You say this knowing how many people voted for Romney? |
| 04:48.30 | karl_w_w | Dark_Elf: that's the only price there is for wow, you can't pay $4 for the same thing elsewhere :P |
| 04:53.20 | Dark_Elf | i use to think it was worth the money, but not anymore |
| 04:54.12 | Dark_Elf | whats even more upsetting is when u buy like cataclysm and mop and they dont even give u 30 days free |
| 04:55.28 | Semlar | http://imgur.com/a/LtiJA >_> |
| 04:56.42 | Semlar | it still turns on, it's a miracle |
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| 05:01.55 | Jamash | HAY HAS THE WORLD ENDED YET |
| 05:02.28 | TC-work | 24 hours yo |
| 05:02.37 | Jamash | oh it's an all day event? |
| 05:02.45 | Dagmar | Something like that |
| 05:02.48 | TC-work | no, maya was more or less pst |
| 05:03.00 | Dagmar | Entertainingly, we're scheduling a pretty massive storage downtime to move *all* the NFS mounts then |
| 05:03.30 | Dagmar | So... if the world starts to end, our office will already be in "All Hands" mode and ready to keep the network up regardless. |
| 05:04.02 | Jamash | I'm interested by the concept that it matters whether or not your network is up when the world ends |
| 05:04.09 | Dark_Elf | nah just a volcano in russia |
| 05:04.19 | Primer | I'm getting really tired of typing the email address of my other account when I want to get on my other account (separate bnet accounts. At the time I wasn't aware I could have two accounts on the same bnet account). I'm pondering creating a batch file to edit config.wtf with the accountName variable before it starts. Does anyone else know of a better way? |
| 05:04.53 | kd3 | open up a support ticket and ask for the accounts to be combined? |
| 05:04.56 | Jamash | Primer: I use keepass2 to auto-type my username and password |
| 05:05.02 | Jamash | or what kd3 said |
| 05:06.11 | Primer | Not entirely sure I want the accounts to be combined |
| 05:06.50 | Dark_Elf | if u have lots of characters u dont |
| 05:06.58 | Jamash | if keepass2 notices that you have multiple matching accounts it pops up a thingy that asks which one to fill in |
| 05:07.08 | Jamash | battle.net accounts, not wow accounts, Dark_Elf |
| 05:07.58 | Dark_Elf | my bad |
| 05:08.33 | Dark_Elf | yeah that keepass is good open source software |
| 05:09.51 | Jamash | so... |
| 05:09.55 | Jamash | has the world ended yet? |
| 05:10.01 | Dark_Elf | lot better than that roboform crap |
| 05:10.02 | Primer | keep ass? |
| 05:10.12 | Jamash | ~lart Primer |
| 05:10.12 | purl | stuffs Primer into a shiny new tin can and vacuum seals it |
| 05:10.18 | wereHamster | Jamash: it's not the 21. yet |
| 05:10.27 | Jamash | time zones brah |
| 05:10.50 | Jamash | oh wait I had an alarm set up for 24 hours previous |
| 05:10.51 | Jamash | my bad |
| 05:10.57 | wereHamster | nowhere on the earth is it 21. yet |
| 05:11.05 | Jamash | what about _in space_ |
| 05:11.26 | wereHamster | maybe in an alternate universe.. |
| 05:12.00 | Dark_Elf | space the final frontier.... |
| 05:13.11 | Jamash | these are the voyages of the starship lensflare |
| 05:13.25 | Semlar | how do you know there isn't another frontier after space |
| 05:13.44 | karl_w_w | these are the voyages of the starship whereisthatlightcomingfromthatsshiningontheship |
| 05:14.07 | Jamash | stars! |
| 05:14.07 | Semlar | space |
| 05:14.11 | Jamash | space stars |
| 05:14.16 | Semlar | space stars |
| 05:14.25 | Jamash | star space |
| 05:19.23 | bluspacecow | hmmmm |
| 05:19.41 | Jamash | bluspacestarcows |
| 05:19.43 | bluspacecow | where would be the best place to report a possible bug with PlaySoundFile() |
| 05:19.51 | Jamash | the bug report forum |
| 05:19.57 | bluspacecow | ui & macros ? or bug report s ? |
| 05:19.59 | bluspacecow | kk ty |
| 05:20.17 | Jamash | actually I don't know |
| 05:20.27 | bluspacecow | lol |
| 05:20.33 | Jamash | does blizz have any forward facing presence on the ui&m forum? |
| 05:23.08 | Cairenn | the best place, as always would be my email inbox |
| 05:23.22 | Cairenn | cairenn@mmoui.com |
| 05:23.28 | Cairenn | I'll get it to the right people |
| 05:23.41 | Jamash | kind of sad honestly that blizzard doesn't have anyone and cairenn has to pick up the slack |
| 05:24.05 | Cairenn | if you can send along a reproducible example, that will be helpful too |
| 05:24.34 | karl_w_w | that's because Cairenn is unique Jamash |
| 05:24.44 | Jamash | she can't be put in void storage? |
| 05:25.05 | Cairenn | Jamash: they read the forums as they can, but I've been liaising between the UI devs and the community since day 1 |
| 05:25.24 | Cairenn | :) |
| 05:25.48 | bluspacecow | <---------- in the middle of typing up a forum post |
| 05:25.50 | bluspacecow | :| |
| 05:25.52 | Semlar | you should ask them why they don't provide a place to host addons |
| 05:26.05 | Jamash | liability |
| 05:26.22 | Jamash | I don't want blizzard hosting addons, I'd just like to see a bit more obvious interaction with the ui community |
| 05:26.39 | bluspacecow | @semlar can I ask you why u don't provide a place to host delicious donuts ? |
| 05:27.08 | Semlar | i'll ruminate on that |
| 05:27.34 | kd3 | wonders how many stomachs semlar has |
| 05:27.45 | karl_w_w | less than bluspacecow |
| 05:27.51 | Semlar | you can't know that |
| 05:28.04 | bluspacecow | we can if we dissect you |
| 05:28.05 | Semlar | unless.. |
| 05:28.30 | Semlar | are you inside me?? |
| 05:28.56 | karl_w_w | hot |
| 05:29.01 | bluspacecow | O_O |
| 05:29.01 | bluspacecow | woah |
| 05:29.02 | bluspacecow | thats deep |
| 05:29.07 | Semlar | that's what she said |
| 05:39.00 | nilyaK | I was like he? no wait blowjob I get it. |
| 05:39.02 | nilyaK | -.- |
| 05:39.09 | nilyaK | kills the joke. |
| 05:45.18 | Primer | Jamash: I've setup keepass2 to type the user/pass in wow for me, but do you know if it's possible to bind that action to a special key? So I can just leave keepass2 running in the tray or something |
| 05:45.27 | bluspacecow | @Cairenn http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/7414953177 Did you still want me to email you ? |
| 05:45.52 | Cairenn | Entirely your choice. |
| 05:47.31 | bluspacecow | *copypastas it into an email* |
| 05:49.10 | Cairenn | k |
| 05:51.36 | bluspacecow | here's an interesting question : http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/7415462227#4 |
| 05:53.35 | karl_w_w | i still can't read anything other than keep ass |
| 05:57.32 | Arrowmaster | Parnic: you there right now? if not ignore this later |
| 05:59.12 | pompy | lol |
| 06:00.28 | karl_w_w | Arrowmaster needs satisfaction now not later |
| 06:01.28 | Arrowmaster | actually i got asked a question about creating a gearbox account linked to an xbox account and wanted some assistance if possible |
| 06:10.15 | kd3 | eesh |
| 06:10.40 | kd3 | it's 50 below in some places in russia atm |
| 06:10.44 | kd3 | http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/12/19/16022433-deep-freeze-across-russia-dips-to-50-below-at-least-45-die?lite= |
| 06:11.14 | Adys | now taking bets on the first person to ask "C or F" and the first one to answer "it doesn't matter" |
| 06:11.14 | Adys | GO |
| 06:13.07 | karl_w_w | C or F? |
| 06:15.06 | pompy | lol... |
| 06:15.09 | karl_w_w | http://lifenet.sitescout.com/disp?pid=FFB2103&rw=1&rand=25925810 <- should read woman is 53 but looks like axe murderer |
| 06:15.10 | pompy | "Last week, the cold in Siberia nearly killed two circus elephants after their trailer caught fire, the RIA news agency reported.A handler quickly devised a plan, buying two cases of vodka from a nearby village and serving it to the elephants -- albeit diluted with warm water." |
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| 06:21.09 | Thunder_Child | actually it does Adys, it tells you if the person is educated or not |
| 06:23.46 | karl_w_w | it tells you if they are educated and think 5 C makes no difference or not |
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| 06:41.01 | Semlar | what's the in USD |
| 06:41.16 | Semlar | well i butchered that |
| 06:42.08 | Semlar | don't mind me |
| 06:52.06 | Fisker | haste |
| 06:52.08 | Fisker | i'm calling you |
| 06:52.16 | Fisker | man kd3 |
| 06:52.20 | Fisker | deep freeze was easy to bypass |
| 06:52.35 | kd3 | it generally is if you know the tricks... >.> |
| 06:58.20 | d87 | string.format("[bar:2] 2; [bar:3] 3; [bar:4] 4; [bar:5] 5; [bar:6] 6; [overridebar] %d; [possessbar][vehicleui] %d; ", |
| 06:58.21 | d87 | GetOverrideBarIndex(), GetVehicleBarIndex()) |
| 06:58.44 | d87 | hm.. sorry bout that |
| 06:59.16 | d87 | missclick |
| 07:02.33 | Fisker | lolwat |
| 07:02.34 | Fisker | Has anyone been able to playback bluray isos with XBMC installed on android? |
| 07:02.35 | Fisker | What's the playback like? Is it smooth any issues at all? |
| 07:02.36 | Fisker | D: |
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| 07:05.37 | Semlar | http://i.imgur.com/nDtK8.jpg oh god, what have i done |
| 07:06.28 | Fisker | you monster |
| 07:06.34 | Fisker | there are chldren in here |
| 07:07.47 | Semlar | i was just trying to set the model.. |
| 07:07.59 | Semlar | i didn't mean to.. |
| 07:08.29 | xyphoid_ | jesus nightmare fuel there |
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| 07:14.09 | karl_w_w | rofl |
| 07:15.47 | Semlar | >_> |
| 07:18.42 | Semlar | http://i.imgur.com/8RfOL.jpg this is my new favorite thing |
| 07:18.55 | Semlar | i should clearly make this into an addon |
| 07:23.41 | nilyaK | \extracted\eclipseproject\src\com\blizzard\wow\net\session\Session.Java is this what you're looking for vIad? |
| 07:25.36 | bluspacecow | *blinks* |
| 07:25.44 | bluspacecow | there's login issues atm ? |
| 07:25.52 | nilyaK | okay it was a little delayed I got distracted and idk are there? |
| 07:26.08 | bluspacecow | i dunno lol |
| 07:28.45 | karl_w_w | i just logged in fine |
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| 07:37.43 | karl_w_w | god space it bludamncow |
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| 07:38.37 | karl_w_w | i just burnt myself a lil bit |
| 07:38.49 | karl_w_w | by putting my finger under water coming out of the cold tap |
| 07:41.18 | Semlar | anyone know if it's possible to change the gender of a model |
| 07:41.24 | Semlar | without setting it to a new unit |
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| 07:45.11 | karl_w_w | yes Semlar |
| 07:45.28 | karl_w_w | reject the false dichotomy of gender imposed on you by the man |
| 07:45.49 | Semlar | alright |
| 07:46.01 | Semlar | that makes this simpler |
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| 08:28.28 | Semlar | http://i.imgur.com/o8G9R.jpg |
| 08:29.13 | Semlar | http://i.imgur.com/M7rfu.jpg |
| 08:30.07 | Kalroth | no boobies? :( |
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| 08:30.22 | Semlar | ..hang on |
| 08:31.42 | Semlar | ah here we go http://i.imgur.com/JXgBX.jpg |
| 08:32.39 | nevcairiel | is that a male smile on a female gnome? |
| 08:32.58 | Semlar | it's the female gnome model with the male gnome texture |
| 08:33.19 | Semlar | http://i.imgur.com/ehCpH.jpg |
| 08:34.31 | Semlar | which is the closest i could get to swapping the gender on the player model, i'll mark this down as a success |
| 08:34.47 | nevcairiel | i wouldnt go that far |
| 08:34.58 | Semlar | a work in progress? |
| 08:35.31 | nevcairiel | do you have a male with female textures too? |
| 08:35.59 | Semlar | hang on |
| 08:37.12 | Semlar | nevcairiel: http://i.imgur.com/wHk8u.jpg |
| 08:37.25 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 08:37.39 | zenzio | reflector bands... making every picture look cool. http://static.vg.no/uploaded/image/bilderigg/2012/12/18/1355837979505_159.jpg |
| 08:38.00 | Semlar | maybe he's just getting beamed up |
| 08:38.02 | wereHamster | do mages run out of mana anymore? |
| 08:38.55 | wereHamster | even if I chain cast everything that I can, I do not drop below 95% mana |
| 08:38.56 | Semlar | http://i.imgur.com/z8iGM.jpg |
| 08:39.23 | nevcairiel | Semlar: that somehow looks like the real deal |
| 08:39.34 | Semlar | >_> |
| 08:39.50 | nevcairiel | male blood efls are just that gay! |
| 08:41.33 | nilyaK | Semlar where did you get that pic of me. |
| 08:41.42 | Semlar | oh, around |
| 08:41.43 | nilyaK | s/./? |
| 08:43.34 | Semlar | http://i.imgur.com/vVNkR.jpg alright that's enough of that |
| 08:45.20 | karl_w_w | do u have incanter's ward, wereHamster? |
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| 08:46.32 | ccox | Can you do one for blood elf - the picture you posted look like a normal BE male |
| 08:47.46 | Semlar | http://i.imgur.com/56jCn.jpg |
| 08:48.03 | ccox | lol! |
| 08:50.25 | karl_w_w | put worgen skin on a tauren |
| 08:53.50 | Semlar | which tauren model |
| 08:53.58 | Semlar | male? |
| 08:54.25 | Fisker | why are you doing that Semlar ? |
| 08:54.44 | karl_w_w | idk either one lol |
| 08:54.46 | Semlar | well, i was trying to do something and then failed miserably but found out i could do something better |
| 08:55.19 | Semlar | http://i.imgur.com/A4TlH.jpg that's the female worgen texture on the male tauren model |
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| 08:56.26 | Semlar | oh god, i crashed the game |
| 08:56.52 | Semlar | i don't know what i did! |
| 08:57.13 | karl_w_w | lol |
| 08:58.06 | Semlar | alright, so it has some bugs to work out |
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| 09:27.03 | wereHamster | karl_w_w: I don't think, I don't know what that is |
| 09:27.53 | wereHamster | nope, I'm lvl 7something |
| 09:28.12 | wereHamster | 8something && <85 |
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| 09:50.44 | karl_w_w | well if ur not level 90 i dont see how that anecdote is worth anything :P |
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| 10:00.29 | wereHamster | uhm, why? |
| 10:03.57 | haste | Fisker |
| 10:06.08 | zenzio | "What non-canon elements were added to The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey" -- " |
| 10:06.10 | zenzio | I'm pretty sure Greedo shot first in canon." |
| 10:06.19 | zenzio | bah, invisible copy+paste newlines |
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| 10:12.45 | Fisker | hastemen |
| 10:12.59 | Fisker | get this haste |
| 10:13.01 | Fisker | i took an apk |
| 10:13.03 | Fisker | and hax0red it |
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| 10:25.33 | chiel | karl_w_w: meh, don't really need an addon to change fonts tbh |
| 10:25.45 | chiel | i just change them in the Fonts folder |
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| 10:26.48 | chiel | calibri looks like a nice font though |
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| 10:41.04 | Fisker | hey haste |
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| 10:50.46 | karl_w_w | Fisker where's my nexus 4? |
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| 10:51.28 | karl_w_w | and why did they make so few of them? don't they know what christmas is? |
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| 11:27.31 | Jitta | is there an api to determine the language of the current realm, e.g. if it's an english or german realm? |
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| 11:59.53 | Ackis | dog woke my up yelping his head off... turns out he got both dew claws stuck in different bells on his Christmas collar |
| 12:01.00 | karl_w_w | the first clue you had that something was wrong was when you were in the shop looking at christmas collars |
| 12:03.06 | Ackis | it's just a red collar with bells :P they like it because they jingle |
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| 12:06.01 | karl_w_w | oh good, 40 C forecast fro christmas day |
| 12:14.14 | Humbedooh | no snow for you my friend! |
| 12:15.40 | Ackis | weren't there reports of -50 in russia yesterday? |
| 12:18.14 | Kalroth | no |
| 12:18.20 | Kalroth | only -20, but -50 with wind |
| 12:23.10 | zenzio | the record in Norway is -51.4... but obviously that is rather rare |
| 12:31.08 | karl_w_w | "99 percent of the 77 biggest religions organizations have set up shop on the site." isn't it easier to say all but one? |
| 12:32.38 | zenzio | wouldn't be correct |
| 12:32.44 | zenzio | it's 76.23 |
| 12:33.52 | Humbedooh | perhaps they rounded up ;o |
| 12:34.09 | karl_w_w | or maybe 76 is 99% of 77 |
| 12:35.39 | zenzio | 77*0.99 is 76.23. They should just say 76 out of 77, or as you said all but one -- but then we'd have to assume their 99% was flawed |
| 12:38.59 | Humbedooh | 76/77 = 98.7% = 99% :\ |
| 12:39.28 | Humbedooh | so they are absolutely correct |
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| 13:17.42 | Fisker | haste |
| 13:17.49 | Fisker | why does Android make my brain hurt? |
| 13:18.15 | Fisker | dafuq |
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| 13:22.22 | Fisker | yuuuuuuuuus |
| 13:24.35 | zenzio | bit late, but Humbedooh: 98.7% != 99% |
| 13:25.13 | Humbedooh | zenzio: how would you write 98.7% with 2 significant digits? |
| 13:25.18 | Humbedooh | I'd surely write 99% |
| 13:25.23 | karl_w_w | rounding isn't a thing anymore? |
| 13:25.41 | Humbedooh | zenzio: they did not write 99.0% did they? |
| 13:25.42 | zenzio | in cases where it's appropriate |
| 13:26.25 | zenzio | bet you people are on the .99999 = 1 side too ;) |
| 13:26.47 | Humbedooh | of course |
| 13:27.01 | Humbedooh | had you said 1.0000 then no :) |
| 13:27.51 | karl_w_w | .99999 with rounding === 1 |
| 13:28.13 | zenzio | with rounding, sure; but that's not the point in that case |
| 13:28.26 | Humbedooh | what is the point then? |
| 13:28.34 | karl_w_w | if it's not the point, your example is completely irrelevant |
| 13:29.11 | zenzio | the .9999 thing was not a point at all, it was a joke |
| 13:29.24 | zenzio | would've been better if I had properly explained what I meant |
| 13:30.06 | Humbedooh | takes significant digits very serious >_> |
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| 13:37.46 | Ackis | bluipodcow: world end yet? |
| 13:37.58 | Fisker | hey Ackis |
| 13:37.58 | bluipodcow | Nope |
| 13:38.02 | Fisker | and bluipodcow |
| 13:38.02 | Fisker | http://i.imgur.com/wIEWy.png |
| 13:38.04 | Fisker | jelly as fuck? |
| 13:38.29 | bluipodcow | Wot is it |
| 13:38.36 | Fisker | you don't have eyes? |
| 13:39.10 | Ackis | is it wrong that I'm disappointed something bad hasn't happened yet? :( |
| 13:39.18 | bluipodcow | I dunno what I'm seeing |
| 13:39.19 | Fisker | nope |
| 13:39.21 | Ackis | like a plague, or something |
| 13:39.22 | Fisker | i hope world is ending too |
| 13:39.29 | Fisker | because Project GODUS got funded |
| 13:39.30 | Fisker | pls bluipodcow |
| 13:39.39 | Fisker | Battle.net Mobile Authenticator accessible from the lockscreen |
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| 13:40.00 | VIad | Fisker: it would always need to run then |
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| 13:40.23 | Fisker | not really |
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| 13:41.21 | VIad | if you want lock screen access always it has to run :D |
| 13:42.23 | Fisker | nah |
| 13:42.33 | Fisker | only if my lockscreen is always active |
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| 13:46.01 | steino | My galaxy nexus can do that |
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| 13:58.20 | Xandr | Is it a bad thing that Project GODUS got funded? |
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| 14:01.58 | VIad | but anything visible is a running process, no? |
| 14:02.02 | VIad | i.e. must run to be visible |
| 14:02.33 | Fisker | yes Xandr |
| 14:02.48 | Fisker | it's not visible if the lockscreen isn't turned on VIad |
| 14:03.09 | VIad | I know :) |
| 14:03.36 | VIad | just saying each time you see your lockscreen the app would run, and unload, and load, e.g. depending on how often you do this and such :D |
| 14:06.06 | alestane | pours Lopeppeppy a cup of grapefruit juice. |
| 14:08.09 | Lopeppeppy | Nom nom! |
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| 14:08.25 | Lopeppeppy | alestane. My laptop died. I had to replace him. I feel sadness. |
| 14:08.44 | alestane | holds a memorial service. |
| 14:09.09 | Lopeppeppy | I'm going to DBAN him on the solstice. |
| 14:09.14 | Lopeppeppy | Seems fitting a bit, nu? |
| 14:09.20 | alestane | Did he take your data with him? |
| 14:09.48 | alestane | I guess not, if you're wiping him out. |
| 14:09.49 | Lopeppeppy | Nope. It was either his video card or his mobo that was going - red screen, black screen, red screen... I got one last backup off him last night. |
| 14:11.48 | alestane | Systemic failure. The way of all flash memory, sadly. |
| 14:12.18 | Lopeppeppy | I had about 6 years with him - a good long run for a laptop that saw very hard use in the first 3 years. |
| 14:14.04 | alestane | That's pretty good. |
| 14:14.21 | alestane | So you got another laptop? |
| 14:15.01 | Lopeppeppy | Yup. Just a baby mid-range guy, nothing special. |
| 14:15.19 | alestane | Wasn't sure if you'd try to make do with the desktop + tablet. |
| 14:15.24 | karl_w_w | VIad: why does it matter if it has to run? :P |
| 14:15.34 | zenzio | "No, comparing function pointers is not undefined behaviour. The result is unspecified though. (IOW, both true and false are valid results, but making you pregnant is not)" |
| 14:16.19 | VIad | battery! |
| 14:16.49 | Lopeppeppy | I don't have a desktop, alestane. |
| 14:17.12 | alestane | So, if you compare function pointers, you will either get a true or a false result, without side effects, but whether that result will be true or false is unpredictable and without meaning. |
| 14:17.29 | alestane | You did once upon a time, Peppy, I must have missed when it left. |
| 14:17.57 | alestane | Or maybe it wasn't properly yours and just hadn't left your dustody yet. |
| 14:18.02 | alestane | custody* |
| 14:19.22 | Lopeppeppy | No, he was mine. But he was suffering hard drive dementia and had to be put down. |
| 14:19.42 | alestane | Okay, I missed that. |
| 14:20.10 | Lopeppeppy | It was very quietly done - I had the laptop, it wasn't a big deal. |
| 14:20.16 | alestane | I have a sudden memory of Col. Potter shooting his jeep after it gets run over by a tank. |
| 14:20.21 | Fisker | slaps Lopeppeppy around a bit with a large trout |
| 14:22.26 | Lopeppeppy | Good morning, Fisker my dearest fishmonger. |
| 14:24.33 | alestane | Are they alive, alive-o, though? |
| 14:25.15 | Lopeppeppy | Don't give me nightmares about fish porn, okay? |
| 14:27.27 | karl_w_w | fish porn? that isn't a thing! |
| 14:27.39 | Humbedooh | alestane: it's not cockles and mussels ;> |
| 14:27.47 | Humbedooh | but t'is a great song nonetheless! |
| 14:28.00 | alestane | Humbedooh, I was trying to avoid using a line like that around Fisker. |
| 14:28.33 | Humbedooh | hah |
| 14:28.49 | Lopeppeppy | karl_w_w, it is. Go onto google. My best friend won a "gross out" contest by showing me that, once upon a time. |
| 14:31.32 | alestane | http://satwcomic.com/porn-for-everybody , karl_w_w. |
| 14:32.04 | VIad | karl_w_w: battery is important, I froze a ton of services and such I never use, useless widget stuffs, even if just disabled, battery lasted longer this night :D |
| 14:35.21 | Lopeppeppy | Yeah, but the fish was lower down, alestane. |
| 14:43.35 | VIad | entered combat, got The instruction at "0x0000000000000000" referenced memory at "0x0000000000000000". |
| 14:43.36 | VIad | The memory could not be "executed". |
| 14:43.40 | VIad | :P |
| 14:44.49 | karl_w_w | executes VIad's memory |
| 14:44.53 | Xandr | Fisker: why? what's so bad about it? |
| 14:45.47 | Fisker | dunno if there's anything bad about the game |
| 14:48.28 | Rythal | why couldn't the mayans of been kind enough to have the world end on monday instead of friday |
| 14:52.18 | Lopeppeppy | Party like it's 1999, baby. |
| 14:52.44 | haste | Fisker: |
| 14:54.23 | wereHamster | Rythal: did the mayans have weeks? And weekends? |
| 14:55.36 | karl_w_w | doubtful |
| 14:57.10 | karl_w_w | weekends were created by the man to give us the illusion of freedom |
| 14:58.30 | karl_w_w | but the joke's on them, we'll all be freed when the world ends tomorrow |
| 14:59.52 | wereHamster | I thought they were created by god |
| 15:00.23 | Fisker | haste |
| 15:00.57 | karl_w_w | god was created by the man to keep us under the control of the establishment |
| 15:01.19 | haste | Fisker |
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| 15:57.51 | Jamash | I created man to keep karl_w_w under establishment of the god |
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| 16:00.27 | Jamash | station |
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| 16:01.52 | mckenziemc | wagon |
| 16:05.18 | Jamash | train |
| 16:05.41 | Unkle | I have you all well conditioned in the Pavlovian sense. |
| 16:06.03 | Jamash | I'm positively salivating with anticipation |
| 16:06.20 | Unkle | well played. |
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| 16:29.19 | VIad | so did anyone reverse engineer the chat protocol from the armory source files? :P |
| 16:32.14 | VIad | http://vlacula.no-ip.com/com.blizzard.wow_32.apk.src.zip |
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| 16:33.44 | chiel | chat protocol? |
| 16:33.46 | chiel | for guild chat or? |
| 16:34.00 | chiel | they need to release a web-based guild chat client or something |
| 16:35.47 | Unkle | Armory already lets you use guild chat - but it's only on mobile devices. |
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| 16:45.03 | karl_w_w | that's not armory |
| 16:46.02 | chiel | Unkle: yeah, i know, which is annoying. :( i'd like it to be just a website |
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| 16:51.30 | cbreak | my mac book is mobile. |
| 16:51.34 | cbreak | where can I find that chat? |
| 16:52.45 | karl_w_w | on an android emulator |
| 16:52.55 | cbreak | :/ |
| 16:54.12 | karl_w_w | also: lol u have a macbook |
| 16:54.45 | Unkle | I have a macbook, jnwhiteh has a macbook, iriel and tekkub have macbooks... |
| 16:54.59 | jnwhiteh | I have three macbooks in my house right now |
| 16:55.09 | jnwhiteh | and an imac |
| 16:55.13 | karl_w_w | and you have my condolences |
| 16:55.25 | jnwhiteh | I don't want them =) |
| 16:55.34 | Unkle | I suppose, if you're an iOS developer you could run the iOS Amory app on your macbook... |
| 16:56.25 | karl_w_w | you don't have to want them for them to be necessary ;) |
| 16:56.47 | Unkle | Wow. That's just... wow. |
| 16:57.04 | jnwhiteh | aww |
| 16:57.07 | jnwhiteh | my kitchenaid was delayed |
| 16:57.13 | jnwhiteh | did nevcairiel hijack it? |
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| 16:58.13 | karl_w_w | I'm quite keen to see how it turns out jnwhiteh :P |
| 16:58.26 | jnwhiteh | it still says its going to be delivered today |
| 16:58.29 | jnwhiteh | maybe DHL will get off their asses |
| 16:58.51 | sylvanaar | 75% off sale today at jetbrains...i bought one of everything lol |
| 16:58.58 | karl_w_w | i think their drivers would be inclined to stab you in the chest if u said that to their face :P |
| 16:59.02 | jnwhiteh | sylvanaar: wow, nice |
| 16:59.09 | jnwhiteh | does that include pycharm or is that still separate? |
| 16:59.14 | sylvanaar | yes |
| 17:00.07 | sylvanaar | its like $25 today for pycharm i thing |
| 17:00.14 | sylvanaar | $50 for full intelliJ |
| 17:00.26 | jnwhiteh | wow |
| 17:00.28 | jnwhiteh | hrm |
| 17:00.29 | sylvanaar | which includes pycharm |
| 17:00.38 | jnwhiteh | surely not.. |
| 17:00.47 | sylvanaar | intellIJ does everything that the single language ides do |
| 17:00.56 | jnwhiteh | oh |
| 17:01.12 | sylvanaar | they are just plugins to intellij packaged as standalone ide's |
| 17:01.15 | jnwhiteh | its personal versus commercial |
| 17:01.17 | jnwhiteh | yeah |
| 17:01.27 | sylvanaar | personal means you cannot be reimbursed |
| 17:01.41 | sylvanaar | you can use it at work - but have to pay for it yourself |
| 17:01.41 | jnwhiteh | i had to buy pycharm commercial for my job |
| 17:01.44 | jnwhiteh | yeah |
| 17:01.49 | sylvanaar | yeah |
| 17:01.58 | jnwhiteh | i can't think of wy i'd need it |
| 17:02.06 | jnwhiteh | does it include updates in the future? |
| 17:02.17 | sylvanaar | for the next year yeah |
| 17:02.45 | sylvanaar | $50 is such an amazing price...wont see it again |
| 17:02.57 | jnwhiteh | yeah but i'll have a job for the next year |
| 17:03.01 | jnwhiteh | and its already covered |
| 17:03.04 | jnwhiteh | thanks for the heads up |
| 17:03.05 | jnwhiteh | =) |
| 17:03.08 | sylvanaar | :) |
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| 17:09.00 | karl_w_w | there's a shop 45 mins walking distance away from me, which takes at least 1 hour to get to by public transport |
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| 17:11.06 | Unkle | You should read Douglas Adam's account of take a plane because it was supposed to be faster than the train, only to be delayed for hours on the the tarmac. |
| 17:13.20 | Unkle | Led to the writing of the "lemon scented paper napkins" scene in the Hitchhikers' books. |
| 17:18.02 | alestane | I remember somebody talking about something that reminded me of the "B Ark" strategy from Restaurant. |
| 17:18.43 | alestane | I think someone was talking about having all the "sane" Americans move somewhere else and letting the rest implode. |
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| 17:27.41 | Torhal|work | sylvanaar: Hey - is it safe to update my IDEA? I've been clicking "Remind me later" for over a week now. |
| 17:28.04 | sylvanaar | I don't support 12 yet. |
| 17:28.16 | Torhal|work | Alrighty, then. Thanks |
| 17:28.18 | Unkle | alestane: Do people want fire that can be fitted nasally? |
| 17:29.35 | alestane | I don't, Unkle, I can't speak for anyone else. |
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| 17:33.25 | VIad | I plan to use these only to clean my LCD screen and TV screen (think it's LCD too) https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/Xr31y2ecXoHMTjrsSzR8nGk5uh8Hdg0K-JtMOn_uC2I?feat=directlink do these look safe? |
| 17:34.35 | cbreak | the surface of screens is just plastic or glass |
| 17:34.55 | VIad | plastic probably :P |
| 17:35.15 | VIad | some years old so nothing modern, doubt old stuff had glass surface for the price I paid :P |
| 17:35.31 | VIad | the cloth don't seem to have anything for scrubbing and such |
| 17:35.57 | VIad | read something about the lcd layer on top being ruined by the cloth but I can't really see that happening :s |
| 17:36.16 | VIad | in any case you guys probably got more experience than me so I ask :D |
| 17:36.23 | Maldivia | if you rub really hard and really long |
| 17:36.41 | VIad | I gently moved the cloth over the dust to remove it, no need to rub really |
| 17:36.42 | Maldivia | ... and that came out a lot dirtier than intended |
| 17:36.56 | VIad | I like how your brain works, Maldivia :P |
| 17:37.04 | cbreak | just don't apply too much pressure |
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| 17:37.27 | cbreak | and make sure there's nothing hard in the cloth, like sand or other dirt that could scratch |
| 17:37.42 | VIad | yes |
| 17:38.51 | Maldivia | and if you want to get rid of fingerprints etc, it's best to do it while the monitor is off (and has been for a bit), so it's not warm |
| 17:39.06 | VIad | I need to buy a solution |
| 17:39.11 | VIad | I got one but starting to go empty :P |
| 17:39.14 | VIad | screen cleaning one |
| 17:39.25 | Maldivia | water works fine |
| 17:39.31 | VIad | it works |
| 17:39.35 | VIad | just thinking as a gift :P |
| 17:39.40 | VIad | I can put water in the bottle |
| 17:39.41 | Unkle | Unless you have very mineral heavy water. |
| 17:39.49 | VIad | and say it's expensive cleaning solution |
| 17:40.49 | VIad | our water has so much mineral that it's basically dirt with some water on it |
| 17:41.00 | Maldivia | Unkle: true, but I tend to use the water I collect from from air dehumidifier :) |
| 17:41.55 | Unkle | That seems pretty eco-friendly of you. |
| 17:42.01 | VIad | Maldivia: I think Unkle said that as a joke :P |
| 17:43.04 | Maldivia | VIad: naah, if you have mineral heavy water, the screen can easily turn milky when you try to clean it |
| 17:43.05 | Unkle | What, the mineral-heavy water? |
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| 17:44.18 | Unkle | In many places I've lived, including European cities, the local water supply is heavy on calcium, limestone and other 'chalky' minerals that will deposit over time. |
| 17:44.33 | Maldivia | Unkle: have a dehumidifier that I use when drying clothes, and the water it collects is almost complete demineralized, so great for ironing, or wiping screens of in :P |
| 17:45.06 | Unkle | Yeah, and it's conservation oriented! |
| 17:45.33 | karl_w_w | or you can go into any car supply shop and buy distilled water at $1/L :P |
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| 17:45.51 | Maldivia | why when I get it for free? |
| 17:46.00 | Unkle | I don't even have to go to a specialty shop. |
| 17:46.48 | karl_w_w | in fact i think my nearby one sells it at $3 for 5L |
| 17:47.49 | Maldivia | but why buy it, when my dehumidifier provides me with distilled water as a byproduct of it's primary function |
| 17:48.42 | karl_w_w | not everyone has a dehumidifier :P |
| 17:49.34 | nevcairiel | dont drink too much distilled water |
| 17:50.20 | karl_w_w | why |
| 17:50.34 | karl_w_w | go on, tell me it washes the minerals out of your body |
| 17:50.53 | nevcairiel | its like drinking too much salt water, just the other way around |
| 17:51.03 | nevcairiel | you would drown from the inside |
| 17:51.08 | karl_w_w | hahah |
| 17:51.18 | karl_w_w | it superhydrates you? :P |
| 17:51.46 | karl_w_w | it gives you kidney laziness |
| 17:51.49 | VIad | so you are saying the best way to sabotage for instance, a tour de france cyclist, is to give him bottles with only distilled water and he will drown? :D |
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| 17:52.14 | Unkle | ... |
| 17:52.21 | nevcairiel | its not instant death :P |
| 17:52.35 | karl_w_w | i do hope you're joking nevcairiel |
| 17:52.43 | Unkle | Did any of you actually take biology? |
| 17:52.57 | karl_w_w | yes |
| 17:53.00 | Maldivia | does 1 year in highschool count? |
| 17:53.06 | wereHamster | Nasga: don't be silly. Schools in the US are a joke |
| 17:53.08 | karl_w_w | I won at biology actually |
| 17:53.16 | Unkle | Maldivia: That's only a little less than I took. :) |
| 17:53.33 | cbreak | biology was mandatory here |
| 17:53.38 | karl_w_w | seriously? 1 year? |
| 17:53.43 | karl_w_w | how is that an education |
| 17:53.44 | Maldivia | mandatory |
| 17:53.55 | karl_w_w | i took 5 years mandatory |
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| 17:55.38 | Maldivia | well, considering (the equivalent of) high school is only 3 years here :) |
| 17:55.58 | karl_w_w | so how much mandatory english and maths is there |
| 17:56.23 | Unkle | It was part of the science curriculum in every school up through high school (grades 9-12) but I only ever had two classes dedicated to it. Everything else comes from self-educating out of curiosity. But you're not going to die from drinking a bottle or two of distilled water, and you're not going to control who wins the Tour de France with that way. |
| 17:56.36 | VIad | :( |
| 17:56.37 | Arrowmaster | for me 4 years of english and 2 or 3 of math i think, i took 4 of math though |
| 17:56.47 | Unkle | Math you take every year through grade 12. |
| 17:57.04 | karl_w_w | yeah was talking about high school |
| 17:57.10 | karl_w_w | but this explains a lot :P |
| 17:57.20 | VIad | solve the equation 2x²-8x+2 |
| 17:57.22 | cbreak | distilled water is harmful for cells |
| 17:57.27 | VIad | forgot =0 |
| 17:57.35 | cbreak | it kills human cells by making them explode |
| 17:57.36 | Arrowmaster | they were redoing my districts math classes right as i was finishing them |
| 17:58.04 | Unkle | Any maths beyond basic algebra and simple geometry is usually elective and/or done at the university level |
| 17:58.06 | karl_w_w | yeah cbreak that's why people who drink distilled water go blind |
| 17:59.07 | Arrowmaster | my school had 5 math classes for 4 years, and only 2 or 3 were required, depending on what you took the year before highschool determined what the first math class you had to take was |
| 17:59.17 | VIad | how did we go from sabotage with distilled water to math? |
| 17:59.35 | karl_w_w | via the US education system |
| 17:59.40 | Unkle | scroll back. the conversational linkage is clear. |
| 18:00.13 | VIad | yeah well went to biology in school to math :P |
| 18:00.15 | VIad | funny |
| 18:00.21 | VIad | like browsing wikipedia |
| 18:00.30 | VIad | {â—• â—¡ â—•} |
| 18:00.51 | cbreak | The www is built on hyperlinks. |
| 18:00.52 | Zootfizzle | Hellooooooo |
| 18:01.21 | Zootfizzle | Who is sabotaging my cells with distilled water? |
| 18:01.30 | Zootfizzle | And are they using cogs? |
| 18:01.52 | Unkle | No, only sprockets are so precise. |
| 18:01.59 | karl_w_w | high school in the uk is 5 years. during all of that maths, english, science, and 1 technical class (woodwork, metalwork, cooking, textiles, or graphic design) were mandatory |
| 18:02.26 | Unkle | karl_w_w: Very similar to the US. |
| 18:02.38 | VIad | dejavu omg |
| 18:02.50 | karl_w_w | i think at least 1 humanity is mandatory as well |
| 18:02.55 | karl_w_w | the details escape me |
| 18:03.23 | Arrowmaster | for my highschool i think 3 years out of 4 for most was mandatory |
| 18:03.34 | Arrowmaster | other than english |
| 18:03.50 | karl_w_w | yeah 3 years every1 gets the same thing in the uk |
| 18:03.55 | cbreak | hmm... we have 6 years of basic school, then 3 years of secondary school as preparation to learn a job, or 6 years of higher school as university preparation |
| 18:04.42 | pompy | Any PS3'ers + MLB fans . http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151317033527451&set=a.186661577450.125421.5768707450&type=1 |
| 18:04.54 | Arrowmaster | but i had a rather strange highschool experience since i transfered to a vocational school 2 years into highschool, so i had to complete certain things in those first 2 years to qualify |
| 18:04.57 | cogwheel | lol team games |
| 18:05.44 | pompy | Zootfizzle: ^ |
| 18:06.12 | karl_w_w | and i think there's no religious education in the US? |
| 18:06.23 | Arrowmaster | theres private schools |
| 18:06.30 | Arrowmaster | but not in public |
| 18:06.33 | karl_w_w | but not in regular school |
| 18:06.44 | cogwheel | not *supposed* to be in regular school |
| 18:06.49 | karl_w_w | which is like, #1 cause of most of america's problems imo :P |
| 18:07.03 | Arrowmaster | history class would be the closest you would get from a legitimate teacher not breaking the rules |
| 18:07.41 | karl_w_w | "Under U.S. law, religious education is forbidden in public schools, except from a neutral, academic perspective." |
| 18:07.44 | cogwheel | and in some parts of the country, teachers and administrators are much more willing to break the rules |
| 18:07.58 | cogwheel | to the point of letting themselves be sued into oblivion |
| 18:08.36 | karl_w_w | so they can teach it |
| 18:08.39 | karl_w_w | but just dont |
| 18:09.06 | cbreak | religion isn't something that should be taught |
| 18:09.09 | karl_w_w | presumably because they feel they couldnt do it without preaching :P |
| 18:09.10 | pompy | Steam holiday sale is live |
| 18:09.12 | cbreak | it's something that should be made fun of |
| 18:09.12 | Arrowmaster | the problem with 'neutral, academic perspective' is that to teach it well you should really teach about other religions too, but that would cause certain parents to go crazy |
| 18:09.21 | cogwheel | taught about, not taught as truth |
| 18:09.22 | Arrowmaster | so they just dont teach any of it |
| 18:09.23 | karl_w_w | no it isnt cbreak, and that's the problem |
| 18:09.54 | karl_w_w | we had 3 years of religious education about all religions |
| 18:09.58 | Zootfizzle | Uh |
| 18:10.05 | Zootfizzle | I had religious education in my US high school |
| 18:10.06 | cbreak | there's so much taught about religion in history courses that should give anyone an impression why they are bad. |
| 18:10.09 | Zootfizzle | We took a field trip to a mosque |
| 18:10.10 | karl_w_w | well not all, the main 5 i think it was |
| 18:10.14 | Zootfizzle | It was part of global social studies |
| 18:10.29 | Arrowmaster | Zootfizzle: what state? |
| 18:10.36 | Zootfizzle | We just didn't read the bible and say prayers every day at lunch |
| 18:10.38 | Zootfizzle | Oregon |
| 18:10.44 | Unkle | For those that wish to have their children brought up in a religious setting, private schools are an (often expensive) option. Catholic schools in New York are a prime example. |
| 18:11.12 | karl_w_w | there's an extremely large difference between religious education and a religious setting |
| 18:11.20 | cbreak | here (switzerland) we have optional religion classes, but I opted out of them once they got too stupid |
| 18:11.31 | cbreak | I mean, come on... women being born from ribs of men? |
| 18:11.34 | cbreak | that's rediculous |
| 18:11.40 | Zootfizzle | But cbreak |
| 18:11.52 | Arrowmaster | Unkle: the hilarious thing is that catholics accept evolution |
| 18:12.02 | Arrowmaster | so the crazies dont really have an option |
| 18:12.06 | karl_w_w | we mostly got taught other religions beliefs/customs |
| 18:12.15 | Zootfizzle | That was a metaphor for the fact that women use X chromosomes which are a part of male genetic makeup |
| 18:12.18 | karl_w_w | not the fake histories invented by them |
| 18:12.28 | Zootfizzle | God planted it in the bible 2000 years ago so we would understand once we knew genetics |
| 18:12.40 | Zootfizzle | It's all so beautiful and logical and simplistic, aren't you convinced by my argument? |
| 18:12.40 | Unkle | I had classes in theology before college and seminary. They were part of my "social studies" classes where religious beliefs were discussed superficially and academically - but it was hard for some of my teachers to do since they were discussing faiths other than their own. |
| 18:12.57 | cbreak | Zootfizzle: too bad that X chromosomes have more data than Y chromosomes |
| 18:12.58 | Zootfizzle | Also, bananas fit perfectly in my hand, so that's proof God made them and me to be together |
| 18:13.44 | karl_w_w | it's proof bananas like being eaten |
| 18:13.47 | Unkle | Lots of things fit perfectly in the hand. |
| 18:14.03 | cbreak | yes. Like hand granades. |
| 18:14.05 | Zootfizzle | I'm trying to think of more stupid flawed arguments that whacko christians make but my brain doesn't work that way, fortunately |
| 18:14.25 | Zootfizzle | You'll have to live with two poorly executed jokes |
| 18:14.32 | karl_w_w | :P |
| 18:14.34 | Unkle | Let's be fair here - it's not just Christians who make those arguments. |
| 18:14.52 | Peppy-gone | Yeah, us pagan chicks say weird stuff too. |
| 18:15.09 | karl_w_w | paganism is the best |
| 18:15.13 | Zootfizzle | Yeah but the pagan weird stuff usually involves dancing and setting things on fire |
| 18:15.19 | karl_w_w | why else are all the holidays on pagan days? |
| 18:15.20 | Zootfizzle | Who doesn't love that? |
| 18:15.20 | Unkle | And sex. |
| 18:15.29 | Zootfizzle | Oh yeah, and sex |
| 18:15.32 | Zootfizzle | Can't forget about the sex |
| 18:15.49 | cbreak | why? Because it fits perfectly into your hand? |
| 18:15.50 | Unkle | And constraining people in wicker cages before burning them. |
| 18:16.00 | Lopeppeppy | What if I set the sex on fire? |
| 18:16.06 | cbreak | ouch. |
| 18:16.09 | Zootfizzle | Then you're crowned the king of leon? |
| 18:16.23 | Unkle | And there are 30,000 more years of winter? |
| 18:16.27 | Lopeppeppy | What if the cages are for the sex and I set those on fire? I mean, it's hard to get it right when it's dark and you're dancing and stuff. |
| 18:16.49 | Zootfizzle | I think constraining people in wicker cages before burning them is actually a pretty cool idea |
| 18:16.49 | Unkle | And you've been drinking, smoking or eating strange fungi |
| 18:17.08 | Zootfizzle | If they manage to break their way out of the cage before they're burned to death, they get to live! |
| 18:17.13 | karl_w_w | you can't drink fungi silly |
| 18:17.14 | Lopeppeppy | Pagans had the best ideas of how to burn people. |
| 18:17.16 | Zootfizzle | It's a perfect system of criminal justice |
| 18:17.28 | Lopeppeppy | karl_w_w, get a blender, you can drink anything. DoesItBlend.com |
| 18:17.35 | cbreak | you sound like someone who has never played Phoenix Wright |
| 18:17.49 | VIad | 8 dota2 invites lol |
| 18:17.59 | Zootfizzle | I'm allergic to dramatic cutscenes |
| 18:18.02 | Unkle | psilocybin tea! |
| 18:18.16 | Arrowmaster | steam just started showing me prices in euros |
| 18:18.26 | cbreak | grats |
| 18:18.42 | Arrowmaster | on only half the page |
| 18:18.52 | Zootfizzle | Does that make everything seem more or less expensive? |
| 18:19.01 | karl_w_w | yes |
| 18:19.07 | Arrowmaster | im not sure |
| 18:19.18 | Zootfizzle | What if you live in Greece? |
| 18:19.19 | karl_w_w | because it is expensive, more or less |
| 18:19.39 | Unkle | pay by credit card. Your credit card company will hold out for most favorable exchange rates. :P |
| 18:19.54 | Zootfizzle | I think we should let Greek citizens borrow directly from the IMF and spend the money on Steam games |
| 18:20.18 | Zootfizzle | Economy solved |
| 18:20.19 | Zootfizzle | Next |
| 18:20.20 | cbreak | steam seems down. |
| 18:20.24 | karl_w_w | how does a country even do that |
| 18:20.28 | karl_w_w | i mean seriously |
| 18:20.33 | karl_w_w | didnt they invent taxation? |
| 18:20.38 | Zootfizzle | Yeah |
| 18:20.55 | cbreak | as far as I know, in greece, rich people don't pay taxes because they are too rich |
| 18:20.57 | karl_w_w | fuckin millenia of taxation and they screw it up |
| 18:21.02 | cbreak | poor people don't pay taxes because they are too poor |
| 18:21.23 | cbreak | and government employees don't pay taxes because they work for the government |
| 18:21.24 | karl_w_w | they should go back to the original way |
| 18:21.26 | Zootfizzle | They invented taxation and then the roman empire came in, killed all the cool rulers and philosophers, then started using fights to the death to placate the populace while they fucked up the empire's finances with huge armies |
| 18:21.27 | cbreak | so not a lot left |
| 18:22.02 | karl_w_w | make it so u can offer to swap all your possesions with sum1 else rather than pay tax |
| 18:23.02 | Unkle | large parts of their problems stem from borrowing a lot of money to make/build things which have poor returns on investment and spending even more money in ways that perversely incentivise people against working. |
| 18:23.15 | karl_w_w | for any1 wondering, mirror's edge is a fun game but you need a goood pc |
| 18:23.25 | karl_w_w | and that goood wasn't a typo |
| 18:23.55 | VIad | you sadly need a pc with four o's as in gooood to run it |
| 18:24.01 | VIad | nah, can you run half life 2 ep 2? then yeah |
| 18:24.21 | karl_w_w | i wouldn't know, i only play good games |
| 18:24.23 | VIad | or like if you can run portal 2 or even wow with decent fps in a 10 man raid :P |
| 18:24.29 | Arrowmaster | i think i still need to finish my hard run of mirrors edge on the xbox |
| 18:24.40 | Unkle | "I am not an authority on lightning safety. I am a guy who draws pictures on the internet. I like when things catch fire and explode, which means I do not have your best interests in mind." - http://what-if.xkcd.com/16/ |
| 18:24.46 | Arrowmaster | then try to do the time trials |
| 18:25.16 | Arrowmaster | steam is so slow |
| 18:25.35 | Zootfizzle | Unkle: Hahaha |
| 18:26.54 | karl_w_w | apparently this is their first steam sale so they didn't know to expect high server traffic |
| 18:27.36 | pompy | http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/20/christopher-johnson-sandy-hook-elementary-rifle_n_2337894.html |
| 18:27.37 | TC-work | karl_w_w: it doesnt need to be that good |
| 18:28.19 | karl_w_w | sure it does, some sections just kill your cpu |
| 18:28.31 | TC-work | I managed to do the whole thing at max settings |
| 18:28.34 | TC-work | with no lag |
| 18:28.46 | TC-work | and my systems is not all that powerful |
| 18:29.06 | karl_w_w | i guess the game is just buggy then |
| 18:29.17 | karl_w_w | maybe it doesnt like amd or something |
| 18:29.47 | TC-work | Does anything like amd? |
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| 18:30.54 | karl_w_w | yes |
| 18:30.58 | VIad | is it possible to extract displayID from within the game when you have the unit as a target or something? |
| 18:31.03 | karl_w_w | every other game i have played |
| 18:32.03 | karl_w_w | there's a shop near me called Beyond Tools |
| 18:32.14 | karl_w_w | and I the only person who finds that mildly amusing? |
| 18:32.37 | TC-work | The 8ball says 'yes' |
| 18:32.49 | TC-work | ~8ball |
| 18:32.49 | purl | ACTION rolls the eight ball and gets: Most likely |
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| 18:33.25 | VIad | I always found the Blizzard sale mails lame |
| 18:33.38 | VIad | like, you play wow, why not buy a new cheaper wow? |
| 18:33.53 | karl_w_w | I don't think I've ever had one |
| 18:33.58 | VIad | I already got one, chances that I need a new one are not so big, unless I cheat a lot and get banned often :P |
| 18:34.18 | VIad | "Save up to 20 euro in the christmas sale" |
| 18:37.26 | karl_w_w | i doubt anyone has ever saved money in a steam sale |
| 18:37.52 | VIad | I have, by not buying the sales :D |
| 18:38.18 | karl_w_w | that's not saving money, that's no change :P |
| 18:38.31 | VIad | saving money |
| 18:38.38 | VIad | i.e. not spending it, saving it for later :P |
| 18:38.45 | VIad | saving it versus using it |
| 18:38.47 | VIad | get it? |
| 18:38.52 | karl_w_w | but that isn't a result of the steam sale |
| 18:38.54 | mikma | rtharper: http://youtu.be/tG3sFKMcMoY |
| 18:38.54 | pompy | ~lart both of you |
| 18:38.54 | purl | slaps a compatible dib on both of you's head |
| 18:39.00 | VIad | :P |
| 18:39.18 | VIad | it is if you don't buy anything as I mentioned xD hahaha |
| 18:39.49 | karl_w_w | so you're saying you wouldn't have bought something but you didn't because the steam sale is on? :P |
| 18:39.51 | VIad | sale comes - you don't buy anything - sale ends - what happened? you spent no money, i.e. money saved, mission successful |
| 18:40.00 | karl_w_w | s/n't// |
| 18:40.07 | VIad | regardless if it's sale or not, the objective was saving money not spending :D |
| 18:45.28 | VIad | karl_w_w: I was joking |
| 18:45.37 | VIad | you save money to buy something by not spending it |
| 18:45.43 | VIad | apply same logic to the term saving money in a sale |
| 18:45.51 | VIad | different kinds of ways to "save money" :P |
| 18:46.00 | VIad | but both have same word hehe |
| 18:48.10 | Arrowmaster | this is bad, why did i just start playing dungeons of dredmor, oh so very bad |
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| 18:48.18 | Gnarfoz | nein |
| 18:48.52 | Arrowmaster | i used to have a nethack 'problem' so i should probably uninstall dungeons of dredmor before things turn bad |
| 18:54.16 | karl_w_w | anyone know why when i go to google maps the default starting point is not my home location? |
| 18:54.55 | TC-work | Fisker: I think it's time to take http://store.steampowered.com/app/205590 off our wishlists seeing as they don't even sell it anymore. |
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| 18:55.28 | Amarande | Rats. Looks like the Kalimdor based Alliance leveling path is blocked now. |
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| 18:56.01 | karl_w_w | how so? |
| 18:56.10 | Fisker | pretty old though TC-work |
| 18:56.13 | Fisker | oh god |
| 18:56.16 | Fisker | not war z :( |
| 18:56.25 | Fisker | why did they do this to us? |
| 18:57.29 | TC-work | Fisker: well, it was on mine, and is still on yours... |
| 18:57.34 | Fisker | yeah |
| 18:57.38 | Fisker | i thought you talked about war z |
| 18:57.47 | Fisker | anyway guess it looks like a good thing we never got it :D |
| 18:57.59 | Amarande | karl: bug with The Bomb in Ashenvale |
| 18:58.07 | TC-work | Yea, the forums are nasty |
| 18:58.11 | mckenziemc | oh noes |
| 18:58.18 | mckenziemc | the world's going to end |
| 18:58.29 | TC-work | Good riddance to bad rubbish |
| 18:59.02 | Amarande | You need Someone Set Us Up The Bomb completed in order to allow the chains to continue into Stonetalon properly, otherwise it deads out after the quest where you kill the orcs with the oil cans on their backs |
| 18:59.08 | TC-work | although now that i think about it 'bad rubbish' does seem to be redundant. |
| 18:59.13 | Amarande | Unfortunately, Someone Set Us Up The Bomb seems to require level 60 now. :| |
| 18:59.27 | Amarande | which ... pretty much kills off that area at level 25-30 where it's meant to be done. |
| 18:59.44 | kd3 | ...and steam's started the winter sale it looks like |
| 19:00.07 | TC-work | a day early if you ask me...payday is tomorrow |
| 19:01.44 | Amarande | apparently, for reasons known only to Blizzard, since I wasn't aware of there being any problems with the goblin contraption in the past (I leveled my mage through Ashenvale->Stonetalon during 4.x) |
| 19:02.07 | Amarande | they decided to make changes to the big goblin tank or whatever that the giant bomb is on top of, and now you can't actually get up there to accept the quest without a flying mount. :( |
| 19:04.08 | karl_w_w | phone a friend |
| 19:04.22 | karl_w_w | or ask the audience |
| 19:04.29 | Amarande | ... huh. why is there a tunnel going deeper underground in between the two sides of the SW platform in the Deeprun now? |
| 19:04.33 | TC-work | interesting, the js 'add to cart button' on the front page seems to be broked |
| 19:04.34 | karl_w_w | for a passenger mount up there |
| 19:04.54 | karl_w_w | no reason Amarande |
| 19:04.57 | karl_w_w | don't go in there |
| 19:09.09 | VIad | renaming my combat pet to "Transformer" triggers the UI error "That name contains mature language" |
| 19:09.10 | VIad | :D |
| 19:09.31 | Zootfizzle | ... |
| 19:09.43 | Zootfizzle | You know |
| 19:09.52 | Dagmar | You could always try "Addacocktomy" |
| 19:10.01 | Dagmar | Oh wait... |
| 19:10.37 | Zootfizzle | I need to add "make the name filter use intelligent regular expressions and a dictionary" to my list of things I regret never having done for World of Warcraft. |
| 19:10.52 | Zootfizzle | I'm sorry VIad :( |
| 19:11.35 | Amarande | Zoot: heh |
| 19:11.46 | Amarande | also, a dictionary that's actually halfway reasoned out rather than a kitchen sink |
| 19:11.53 | Amarande | I still remember that one time in Guild Wars Factions, ROFL |
| 19:12.21 | nilyaK | also, realizing that being trans isn't insulting. |
| 19:12.28 | VIad | is transformer a bad word because it's slang for a hardon? |
| 19:12.29 | Zootfizzle | nilyaK |
| 19:12.38 | Zootfizzle | That's a whole nother ball of wax |
| 19:13.09 | Zootfizzle | I mean, at last BlizzCon they had a rock star get up on stage and make fun of gay people in front of a crowd of 20,000 |
| 19:13.31 | nilyaK | at a previous Blizzcon they didn't take pictures of me on stage for the costume contest |
| 19:13.36 | nilyaK | 08 I think |
| 19:13.53 | Zootfizzle | Sorry to hear it :( |
| 19:14.08 | VIad | :( |
| 19:14.34 | VIad | why is trans an mature word? :P |
| 19:14.58 | Lopeppeppy | Because it can be used in a derogatory fashion. "mature" is just a catch-all bucket. |
| 19:15.03 | nilyaK | I dressed up as the diablo II icon for unflagged (eg not blizz rep, channel op, sysop etc) telnet connections |
| 19:15.14 | VIad | maybe I can sue blizzard for having the word cock in cockroach :P |
| 19:15.14 | Dagmar | It's probably more a matter of putting all the verboten words into one bucket, of which 95% are probably obscenities. |
| 19:15.26 | Dagmar | Vlad: Do you remember the "Big !@#!#! Sword"? |
| 19:15.33 | Semlar | you can't sue blizzard for having the word cock in cockroach vlad |
| 19:15.34 | Amarande | Dagmar: Yeah, probably. Like that GW incident ... I was in the starter island of Factions |
| 19:15.39 | VIad | enlighten me, Dagmar |
| 19:15.54 | Amarande | and was noting to guild that I was about to go fighting Captain Quimang (I was being particularly cautious on this character as I was planning on going for Survivor title) |
| 19:15.58 | Amarande | and it kept coming out ****ang |
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| 19:16.15 | Amarande | let's put it this way. seriously, if you have to resort to Google to figure out why a word is censored, it probably doesn't need to be :p |
| 19:16.17 | Semlar | they blacklisted a bunch of words because of potential abuse |
| 19:16.19 | Dagmar | Vlad: During beta, the mature language filter filtered _all_ text, even item names and tooltips. |
| 19:16.32 | VIad | lol |
| 19:16.36 | Dagmar | Vlad: One of the items you could get was a [Big Bastard Sword]. |
| 19:16.44 | Amarande | Dagmar: hah. LOTRO's had its issues with that, too |
| 19:17.00 | Amarande | They added Cock-a-Leekie soup in one of the more recent expansions, when you mail it to someone the subject is all censor symbols |
| 19:17.07 | Dagmar | I thought it made the name of the sword more descriptive, personally. |
| 19:17.14 | Semlar | uh, my old guild got renamed because it was apparently nip is a derogatory term for a japanese person |
| 19:17.25 | Semlar | -"it was" |
| 19:17.32 | Dagmar | Semlar: Used by _old people_, yeah. Hhe |
| 19:17.40 | Amarande | heh, give it a few more years |
| 19:17.47 | VIad | bastard is another word for a child born outside marriage no? |
| 19:18.01 | VIad | or was it with another woman? |
| 19:18.12 | nilyaK | sure, but bastard sword means hand and a half sword |
| 19:18.15 | Unkle | Outside of wedlock |
| 19:18.26 | VIad | sure, but if trans is mature language |
| 19:18.27 | Amarande | "(Game) is a family friendly international environment. Therefore, in order to avoid offenses given to other players of (Game), all character and guild names shall be required to consist entirely of consonants and be worth not less than thirty Scrabble(R) points per word." |
| 19:18.34 | VIad | bastard is harsh slang :P |
| 19:18.47 | Semlar | vlad the words on that list aren't "mature words" they're blacklisted because they have the potential for abuse |
| 19:18.58 | Unkle | because it was "the bastard child" between a sword for a single hand and a sword meant for two. |
| 19:19.01 | Dagmar | Amarande: Won't work. The Welsh will have fits. |
| 19:19.09 | karl_w_w | oh look, emergency windows update |
| 19:19.13 | nilyaK | yes |
| 19:19.30 | mckenziemc | performs an emergency shutdown of karl_w_w's computer |
| 19:19.50 | Dagmar | "New 'Scrabble: Welsh Edition': No vowels needed." |
| 19:20.12 | Semlar | zjxxk |
| 19:20.19 | Dagmar | *gasp* |
| 19:20.20 | VIad | why is homo not allowed but homosapien is :D |
| 19:20.30 | Arrowmaster | id rather have a scrable daedric edition |
| 19:20.36 | Semlar | because if i called you a homo it would be offensive |
| 19:20.48 | nilyaK | or dalek edition - exterminate |
| 19:20.48 | karl_w_w | Semlar: the words on that list don't have the potential for abuse they're blacklisted because they have the potential for soccer moms to decide they don't want their kids hearing about heathens and the like |
| 19:21.00 | VIad | homogay was okay |
| 19:21.00 | Semlar | right, abuse |
| 19:21.01 | VIad | :P |
| 19:21.03 | VIad | just fyi lol |
| 19:21.19 | Semlar | offense can't be given, only taken |
| 19:21.34 | Humbedooh | VIad: that says more about the speaker than the audience though ;) |
| 19:21.39 | pompy | http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/s480x480/45035_516621788358837_216337079_n.jpg |
| 19:21.43 | karl_w_w | gives Semlar a fence |
| 19:21.43 | VIad | I am just trying out offensive words |
| 19:21.51 | VIad | or any words that can be taken as offensive :P |
| 19:21.56 | Semlar | the entire list is in the dbc file |
| 19:22.10 | VIad | but there seems to be some okay words tough |
| 19:22.10 | Semlar | it's not localized either |
| 19:22.17 | nilyaK | VIad you didn't reply last night but, sec |
| 19:22.21 | VIad | oh |
| 19:22.24 | Humbedooh | you...LordFarlander |
| 19:22.24 | VIad | I went to bed, nilyaK |
| 19:22.28 | VIad | sorry nilyaK:( |
| 19:22.45 | mckenziemc | *gasp* Humbedooh |
| 19:22.55 | nilyaK | \com.blizzard.wow_32.apk.src\extracted\eclipseproject\src\com\blizzard\wow\net\session\Session.Java is this what you were looking for? |
| 19:23.28 | VIad | I wasn't specifically looking for anything, was just sharing the source file if someone wanna make a java chat for outside the game :D |
| 19:23.31 | karl_w_w | http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/security/bulletin/ms12-078 |
| 19:23.36 | VIad | but that's the authentication mechanism? |
| 19:23.57 | nilyaK | I'm not good enough with Java, nor did I look for that long but it appears to be. |
| 19:25.30 | nilyaK | restarting to apply this update, then going to go back to bed, the damn dog kept me up till 6am |
| 19:27.41 | VIad | Ackis or Adys didn't one of you reverse engineer the mobile auth? |
| 19:27.43 | karl_w_w | anyone here have an actual christmas stocking? |
| 19:27.55 | Adys | I did |
| 19:27.57 | Adys | what's up vlad? |
| 19:28.04 | Dagmar | I just bought another 24 pack last week |
| 19:28.35 | VIad | why not take a look at the armory sources for a stand alone chat? :D |
| 19:29.10 | VIad | ( extracted the files here http://vlacula.no-ip.com/com.blizzard.wow_32.apk.src.zip ) |
| 19:29.44 | Adys | mmh |
| 19:29.49 | Adys | I might |
| 19:30.07 | Adys | not now tho, im running late on a client's site and i dont need other distractions |
| 19:30.12 | VIad | :D |
| 19:30.19 | VIad | tell them Vlad says hi |
| 19:31.25 | Adys | Only vlad I know is from mozilla |
| 19:32.04 | VIad | maybe I am him ;) |
| 19:32.13 | karl_w_w | ooh look, my overall utorrent ratio has gone over 0.5 |
| 19:33.22 | karl_w_w | and my highest ratio for an individual torrent is 110.4 |
| 19:33.24 | karl_w_w | lol |
| 19:34.31 | TC-work | http://www.jetbrains.com/specials/index.jsp jetbrains is having an end of the world sale. |
| 19:34.40 | TC-work | (they do IDE's) |
| 19:36.44 | karl_w_w | resharper is fandabbydoozy |
| 19:38.16 | karl_w_w | Fisker is scribblenauts good? |
| 19:38.51 | Amarande | heh, end of the world sales |
| 19:39.04 | Fisker | yes karl_w_w |
| 19:39.11 | Amarande | I'll know if the world came to an end tomorrow night if the Cowboys and Patriots end up being the Super Bowl. Then I'll know I died tomorrow night in my sleep and went to hell. :) |
| 19:39.12 | karl_w_w | ok i wont buy it |
| 19:39.25 | karl_w_w | i only buy games if i know they will sit in my library unplayed |
| 19:40.29 | Fisker | wait how do you translate it back into java VIad ? |
| 19:40.43 | VIad | android apps are java |
| 19:40.53 | VIad | and java can be reverse engineered quite "easily" :P |
| 19:40.54 | Amarande | Also, to bring memes together, someone should write an end of the world story in which the apocalypse happens tomorrow because some vital computer depends on dividing a number regularly by the number of days currently remaining in the current Mayan Long Calendar. :D |
| 19:41.06 | VIad | not exact source code but close enough |
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| 19:45.48 | nilyaK | so, what sort of excitement is going on today? |
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| 19:46.06 | Arrowmaster | if you want something really secure on android then its probably a better idea to write it in native code |
| 19:46.09 | Arrowmaster | but then its not as portable |
| 19:46.33 | Amarande | Rats |
| 19:46.51 | Amarande | someone asked to make the pandarian engineering gun and said they had everything but the spirit |
| 19:47.02 | Amarande | ... then I get there and find they *don't* actually have "everything" |
| 19:48.18 | Amarande | they only had the mats for the scope, not the scope itself :p |
| 19:50.59 | karl_w_w | how is that not everything? |
| 19:52.26 | Amarande | karl: because he specifically specified that he only needed "the spirit" (singular) |
| 19:52.43 | Amarande | both the scope and the gun need one spirit each, though, and as I only had the one and he didn't actually have the scope, it mattered :p |
| 19:53.52 | karl_w_w | spirit can also be plural :P |
| 19:56.18 | Amarande | yeah, but in this case he apparently did admit to thinking he needed only the one :S |
| 19:57.27 | karl_w_w | bop crafting mats are still stupid |
| 19:59.39 | Semlar | that's the spirit |
| 19:59.44 | karl_w_w | a lazy bnd purely inconvenient solution to an imagined problem |
| 20:00.57 | karl_w_w | an ineffective solution at that |
| 20:01.06 | Amarande | yeah, I'm not even quite sure what that problem actually is |
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| 20:01.21 | Amarande | At least having the motes drop near anywhere is an improvement over the Chaos Orb debacle during Cata |
| 20:02.31 | karl_w_w | the problem is not being able to make gold through crafting proffesions |
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| 20:03.49 | karl_w_w | professions*? neither looks right, I need sleep |
| 20:05.49 | Benalish | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?p=270934#post270934 |
| 20:07.00 | TC-work | wouldn't that be better asked in ##ace? |
| 20:08.33 | Amarande | heh. I main an engineer. I don't really think all that much about making gold via crafting professions |
| 20:08.46 | karl_w_w | more importantly, why have an xml file with nothing but includes? |
| 20:09.11 | Arrowmaster | because thats how its done? |
| 20:09.13 | Semlar | that's usually how they do it |
| 20:09.14 | Amarande | I wasn't even so much interested in the tip that I was going to get from doing that craft for the guy in trade chat as the fact that that would have been five fewer bloody thermal anvils to make to level it up :P |
| 20:10.02 | Semlar | that way you just make a reference to the xml file in the lib and it includes everything else for you |
| 20:11.23 | Benalish | karl_w_w: all the frames are created by lua code |
| 20:11.49 | Benalish | is a option panel built vith ace3GUI |
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| 20:16.43 | Mr_Rabies | argh why do librams still drop |
| 20:16.50 | Mr_Rabies | furthermore, why are they recipes in the first place |
| 20:22.09 | Amarande | yeah, why DO they get sorted as recipes |
| 20:22.38 | Amarande | granted, they're few enough lately that it usually doesn't get in the way of telling me that no, today there aren't any cooking or engineering recipes I'm missing on the AH either, heh |
| 20:22.52 | Amarande | or well ... there's usually a few missing engi recipes, but at prices I don't want to pay :p |
| 20:23.11 | Amarande | unless it's something like sunwell goggles for 3500g, that I snagged without a further thought :) |
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| 20:35.56 | Mr_Rabies | i check for recipes i don't know every few hours |
| 20:36.08 | Mr_Rabies | and have to sort through piles of librams |
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| 21:58.53 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:05.05 | Semlar | bettle |
| 22:15.37 | mckenziemc1 | put enough TLDs and misspellings in it and anybody'll believe it! |
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| 22:26.51 | Ackis | has the new SC2 game started beta yet? |
| 22:27.32 | foxlit | ages ago |
| 22:27.41 | Humbedooh | old Ackis |
| 22:28.39 | Unkle | My battle.net account shows access to some SCII beta thingy, but it's probably old. |
| 22:36.35 | alestane | HotS is in beta, yes. |
| 22:45.32 | TC-work | What i want to know is why blizz has a limit on password characters. |
| 22:45.37 | TC-work | it's kinda anoying |
| 22:45.57 | stuf | and why make it case insensitive |
| 22:48.34 | Mr_Rabies | hahaha the monkey king quest |
| 22:49.10 | Mr_Rabies | FREE, FREE AT LAST AFTER TEN THOUSAND YEARS |
| 22:49.34 | foxlit | TC-work: how so? |
| 22:50.56 | TC-work | foxlit: because i can't use as long a password as i would like? |
| 22:51.04 | TC-work | the question doesn't really make sense |
| 22:51.26 | TC-work | the annoying part is subjective. |
| 22:51.30 | Mr_Rabies | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYnzEeIbWjs |
| 22:52.24 | foxlit | (a) what's the limit (b) why do you feel that you need a longer password? |
| 22:54.17 | Dagmar | Even if they had it at 255 characters some asshole would certainly paste a whole paragraph into it and then complain. |
| 22:54.57 | Dagmar | Anything past 32 characters is basically a waste of time anyway. |
| 22:56.15 | TC-work | foxlit: 10 i think, because i want one |
| 22:56.38 | Primer | Speaking of passwords, I recently setup keepass2 to handle my wow logins, but I was wondering if there was a way to trigger the dialog when wow starts? The closest I could find was using the ctrl-alt-a global keybind, which I dislike |
| 22:56.40 | TC-work | On a side note, anyone know how to remap the mmb on centos? |
| 22:56.51 | Mr_Rabies | i think my password's 16 characters? |
| 22:56.52 | Mr_Rabies | 15-16 |
| 22:56.55 | Primer | what is mmb? |
| 22:57.08 | Mr_Rabies | 15 |
| 22:57.13 | TC-work | right, 15, sorry |
| 22:57.16 | TC-work | middle mouse button |
| 22:57.32 | Primer | well, that's not a distro-specific question |
| 22:57.35 | TC-work | no, i think they go to 17 actually |
| 22:57.39 | Primer | it'll be WM specific |
| 22:57.45 | Primer | I use xmodmap |
| 22:57.45 | TC-work | kde |
| 22:57.57 | Primer | surely KDE has a config UI for that? |
| 22:58.26 | Primer | Since I use openbox and no gnome or KDE, I just call xmodmap from my ~/.config/autostart |
| 22:58.31 | TC-work | That is not an option as far as i can tell |
| 22:59.35 | Primer | What do you want middle click to do? |
| 23:00.00 | TC-work | I don't want to put in a whole lot of effort, because this is just to see if i can get it to override the default nuke option |
| 23:00.19 | Primer | nuke? |
| 23:00.25 | TC-work | since that doesn't have a mouse remaping option either |
| 23:00.38 | TC-work | http://www.thefoundry.co.uk/products/nuke/ |
| 23:00.41 | TC-work | nuke ^ |
| 23:00.44 | Primer | This is why I like openbox |
| 23:00.48 | Primer | I can make it do anything I want |
| 23:00.57 | TC-work | I don't really have a choice |
| 23:01.11 | Primer | So another maya/blender |
| 23:01.27 | TC-work | this is used in conjunction with maya |
| 23:01.34 | TC-work | and other things |
| 23:01.53 | Primer | So is your goal to just make the middle mouse key be another mouse button? |
| 23:02.44 | TC-work | no, it's just to change it to something so that i can see if the nuke settings get overwritten |
| 23:03.30 | Primer | xmodmap -e "pointer = 1 2 5 4 3 6 7" |
| 23:03.43 | Primer | would swap 3 and 5 |
| 23:03.53 | Primer | may not work unless you specify all keys |
| 23:04.15 | Arrowmaster | dont mess with anything after 5 |
| 23:04.21 | Primer | I have a mouse that stores the config on the mouse |
| 23:04.58 | Primer | but it requires a windows program to configure |
| 23:05.33 | foxlit | mm, steelseries? |
| 23:05.35 | Arrowmaster | which is why ill never bother with any of those |
| 23:06.00 | Arrowmaster | and stick with logitech mice till mice are obsolete |
| 23:06.05 | Primer | it's a small price to pay for never having to mess with xmodmap again |
| 23:06.13 | Primer | this is a logitech g700 |
| 23:06.22 | Arrowmaster | why do you have to mess with it in the first place? |
| 23:06.35 | Primer | you can program several profiles, and switching them is bound to a key |
| 23:06.39 | foxlit | because having more than 5 mouse buttons is useful |
| 23:06.51 | Primer | To set shit like side buttons to be ctrl, alt, and shift |
| 23:07.06 | Arrowmaster | ah |
| 23:07.09 | Primer | that way in the wow profile I can do ctrl-1, etc. key combos |
| 23:07.12 | Arrowmaster | i just keep everything at default |
| 23:07.24 | Primer | by just holding down one of the side buttons and hitting 1 |
| 23:07.40 | Primer | Everything I do in-game is a key combo |
| 23:07.42 | Primer | I never click |
| 23:08.34 | Primer | So anyhow, I really like keepass2 |
| 23:08.53 | Primer | but I wish it could detect that I've started wow and present the matching keys dialog at that time |
| 23:09.04 | Arrowmaster | i didnt think it had good linux support |
| 23:09.06 | Primer | without having to type ctrl-alt-a |
| 23:09.12 | Primer | this would be in windows |
| 23:09.15 | Arrowmaster | ah |
| 23:09.35 | Primer | While I plan to set it up here at work too, that's not where I mostly play wow |
| 23:10.20 | Arrowmaster | keepassx 2 is in development, i hope that one integrates with firefox |
| 23:10.21 | Primer | I have two accounts, and grew tired of typing the email addresses and passwords, then clicking the "remember" checkox...you can't even click the text, it has to be the box |
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| 23:21.35 | TC-work | as far as i know keepass only natively ties in with a browser. However it does have plugins/api's which means you could make yourself one. |
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| 23:23.01 | Arrowmaster | TC-work: only keepass2 has plugins |
| 23:23.21 | TC-work | i was refering to keepass2 |
| 23:23.28 | TC-work | referring* |
| 23:23.38 | Arrowmaster | which ive not heard good things about on linux |
| 23:23.49 | TC-work | He was talking about windows |
| 23:24.16 | Primer | I'm just surprised that with all the features, this isn't one of them |
| 23:25.10 | TC-work | what? triggering on a specific application....wouldn't it constantly have to parse active exe's? |
| 23:25.46 | Primer | I would guess there's an event it can listen for |
| 23:25.58 | Primer | think inotify in Linux |
| 23:26.55 | TC-work | are we talking about windows ar linux |
| 23:27.04 | TC-work | it seems to keep going back and forth |
| 23:27.05 | Arrowmaster | thats only for changes to the filesystem in linux, theres not even a way to do what you want in linux without constantly polling the running tasks |
| 23:29.26 | Primer | uhh |
| 23:29.32 | Primer | you could watch for open on the exe |
| 23:29.36 | Primer | then start polling |
| 23:30.07 | Arrowmaster | not with inotify |
| 23:30.17 | Primer | Or do whatever devilspie does |
| 23:30.27 | Primer | it uses X events though |
| 23:30.34 | Arrowmaster | oh i guess it does work on file reads |
| 23:30.36 | Primer | new window event probably |
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| 23:30.41 | Primer | yes, it does |
| 23:30.50 | Primer | I use it in a log tailing script I wrote |
| 23:30.54 | Arrowmaster | new window events is probably best |
| 23:31.04 | Primer | surely there is an equivalent in windows |
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