| 00:01.18 | Iriel | foxlit: to what purpose? |
| 00:02.15 | foxlit | given a string encoded in Lua string notation, extract the actual value of a string. |
| 00:02.25 | Iriel | Ah, I see |
| 00:04.37 | foxlit | heh, my clever plan with having a lookup table is broken by the variation between \t and \123 |
| 00:04.51 | foxlit | s/with having/involving/ |
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| 01:01.38 | kd3 | ugh. I've bound my mount macro to ` for so long it's going to take a while to unlearn it |
| 01:14.43 | Jamash | Corrodias: automatic weapons are legal in the us, I don't know what you're talking about |
| 01:15.17 | Thunder_Child | The 'us' is not one entity |
| 01:16.11 | Jamash | the us is a country, and in the US automatic weapons are legal, to wit: there is no federal ban on private ownership of automatic weapons |
| 01:16.25 | Mr_Rabies | they're legal most everywhere in the US, but there's all kinds of stuff you have to do to obtain one legally in most cases, and they're certainly not cheap |
| 01:16.40 | Jamash | so? |
| 01:17.06 | Mr_Rabies | exceptions being those that are person-to-person transactions of weapons produced before a certain date |
| 01:17.10 | Jamash | Corrodias said "automatic firearms -are- prohibited in the entire US" <--- this is false |
| 01:18.29 | Jamash | now I think we should ban private ownership of handguns, semiautomatic weapons of any kind, automatic weapons of any kind, and require registration, licensing and insurance for what remains |
| 01:18.32 | Thunder_Child | Not anymore at least |
| 01:18.39 | Thunder_Child | not since 2004 |
| 01:18.47 | Jamash | and repeal the 2nd amendment |
| 01:19.02 | Gnarfoz | good luck with that :D |
| 01:19.29 | Jamash | and require gun show sales to obey exactly the same laws as store sales |
| 01:19.43 | Thunder_Child | No federal law, but some states have automatic weapon bans |
| 01:19.51 | Corrodias | oh |
| 01:20.06 | Jamash | and allow victims and relatives of victims to sue dealers, manufacturers and the NRA |
| 01:20.32 | Corrodias | yeah, i figured someone like Jamash would come and start a political rant, but i wasn't the one who brought it up; the damage was done. |
| 01:20.40 | Jamash | yw |
| 01:20.50 | Corrodias | i was just wondering what that guy was talking about in the tweet, so now i know. |
| 01:21.11 | Corrodias | thanks, TC |
| 01:21.18 | Corrodias | and MR |
| 01:21.20 | Jamash | semiauto is a kind of auto anyway |
| 01:21.27 | Jamash | and that's what murdoch was referring to |
| 01:21.31 | Thunder_Child | but they are not the same |
| 01:21.37 | Corrodias | then Murdoch is very poor at communicating |
| 01:21.41 | Thunder_Child | ^ |
| 01:21.41 | Jamash | well we knew that |
| 01:21.42 | Corrodias | what does he own, again? |
| 01:21.47 | Jamash | fox "news" |
| 01:22.04 | Corrodias | there's irony here. somewhere. |
| 01:22.16 | Jamash | dripping with it |
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| 01:23.02 | Mr_Rabies | he owns news corporation |
| 01:23.07 | Jamash | australia banned semi-auto weapons in 1996 and has had no mass shootings since then, while they had 18 in the 10 years before |
| 01:23.11 | Mr_Rabies | one of the largest companies in the world |
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| 01:24.06 | Jamash | another alternative would be to take the text of the 2nd amendment seriously and require all gun owners to join the national guard |
| 01:25.34 | Corrodias | just in case you're expecting something from me, let me say i'm not going to discuss these ideas at all so you don't waste your time. otherwise, enjoy yourself, no insult intended. |
| 01:27.03 | Mr_Rabies | i have an idea, it's brilliant |
| 01:27.10 | Mr_Rabies | what if we make murder illegal? no one will ever do it! |
| 01:27.21 | Jamash | so you're saying we should legalize murder? |
| 01:27.36 | Corrodias | uh oh. i'm just going to hide this channel now... |
| 01:27.47 | Mr_Rabies | lol |
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| 01:29.43 | foxlit | I like semantics. |
| 01:30.00 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:30.00 | Jamash | me too! |
| 01:30.18 | Jamash | killing people is already legal |
| 01:30.24 | Jamash | murder, however, is illegal killing |
| 01:30.37 | Jamash | ergo, legalizing murder is different from legalizing killing people |
| 01:31.22 | Jamash | I should correct myself, murder is a subset of illegal killing |
| 01:31.58 | Jamash | there's also manslaughter, negligent homicide, etc. |
| 01:32.28 | foxlit | could you spell out the implication in your question? I'm getting lost somewhere in there. |
| 01:32.35 | Jamash | what question? |
| 01:32.48 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:33.47 | Jamash | oh, mr rabies is alluding to the standard straw man argument that since making murder illegal doesn't prevent all murders, restricting legal gun ownership will not prevent criminals from getting guns |
| 01:34.24 | Jamash | which I responded to with a second straw man, to wit, since making murder illegal doesn't prevent all murders, then there's no point in making murder illegal, so we should make murder legal |
| 01:35.03 | Jamash | it's not intended to make sense |
| 01:35.28 | Mr_Rabies | i'm done with this discussion, no good will come of it and it'll end with me calling you names and everyone else feeling awkward |
| 01:35.34 | Jamash | oh were you serious? |
| 01:35.52 | Jamash | I assumed you were making fun of the idiots who use that straw man seriously |
| 01:36.03 | Mr_Rabies | neither of us stand a chance of changing the other's opinion on the issue |
| 01:36.23 | Jamash | I've changed my opinion after civil debate plenty of times |
| 01:36.36 | Jamash | so I disagree with that statement |
| 01:36.41 | Mr_Rabies | it went past the point of being civil when you called me an idiot :3 |
| 01:36.47 | Jamash | I didn't call you an idiot |
| 01:36.55 | Jamash | I called people who use that straw man argument idiots |
| 01:37.02 | Jamash | whether you used that argument seriously remains an open question |
| 01:37.14 | durcyn | https://twitter.com/robdelaney/status/279716043650375680 |
| 01:37.31 | durcyn | it is a pretty fucking idiotic argument, no sense beating around the bush. |
| 01:37.45 | Jamash | durcyn: hi5 |
| 01:39.14 | durcyn | you don't even have to look at it in the context of america for common sense to prevail: finland has the most lax gun laws in the eu these days, and helsinki somehow has the highest gun crime rate, weird yes? |
| 01:39.20 | Jamash | given that the argument applies equally well to 9mm handguns and strategic nuclear weapons, I would say that it's not a serious argument |
| 01:40.30 | Jamash | did you see the petition on We the People to build a Death Star? |
| 01:40.44 | Thunder_Child | Yes |
| 01:40.47 | Thunder_Child | passed too |
| 01:41.20 | Jamash | what would we blow up with it, is what I want to know |
| 01:41.27 | Jamash | there's only one inhabited planet in the solar system |
| 01:41.44 | Jamash | well, I guess I answered my own question |
| 01:45.19 | Thunder_Child | Not really. The death start was designed to instill fear, not nuke planets |
| 01:45.54 | Jamash | yeah but it's the threat of destroying planets that's intended to instill fear |
| 01:46.05 | Jamash | it's difficult to credibly threaten to destroy the planet you're on |
| 01:46.18 | Jamash | unless of course you're a comic book supervillain |
| 01:46.48 | durcyn | http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2012/02/death-star-surprisingly-cost-effective-weapons-system |
| 01:49.54 | foxlit | Does GDP get adjusted for inflation? |
| 01:50.56 | pompy | Arrowmaster: did you get a message from LIVE about Security Proofs? |
| 01:51.20 | Arrowmaster | pompy: email or message on xbl? |
| 01:51.43 | pompy | message on xbl |
| 01:52.16 | pompy | "accessing xbox live will require you to have two security proofs on your account. .." |
| 01:52.30 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 01:53.05 | pompy | http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/927749-xbox-360/64637393 |
| 01:55.11 | Arrowmaster | i went to check my account info on the website though and they want to send me a security code, im waiting for the txt message |
| 01:55.19 | Arrowmaster | guessing im not going to get one though |
| 01:55.48 | pompy | Arrowmaster: they need to add a damn "sent" section to the messages lol. |
| 01:56.35 | pompy | why wont u get one? gtalk? |
| 01:57.07 | Arrowmaster | google voice |
| 01:57.55 | Mr_Rabies | you can probably call to get it set up |
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| 01:59.46 | pompy | Arrowmaster: lol THQ weekend sale on XBL |
| 02:00.54 | Arrowmaster | Mr_Rabies: no its something wrong with their system, never got the txt msg from microsoft but email sent me a code right away |
| 02:01.16 | Arrowmaster | either they are sending it as an MMS which gvoice doesnt support, or something else is wrong with their system |
| 02:01.53 | Neffi | *hearing constant noise inside house for several minutes* "wait a second, nobody's home" *noise suddenly stops* |
| 02:05.00 | Mr_Rabies | yeah, i think maybe gvoice could be auto-blocking the number, arrowmaster |
| 02:10.39 | Arrowmaster | pompy: im guessing i didnt get that notification because i have two email addresses and a cell phone number on my account already |
| 02:11.24 | Arrowmaster | also had a 'trusted pc' from when i tried win8 before installing debian on this laptop |
| 02:11.31 | Arrowmaster | but i just removed that |
| 02:11.51 | foxlit | Adys: think you were looking for something similar to http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info18432-QuietMacros.html earlier |
| 02:12.15 | Adys | thanks foxlit |
| 02:13.03 | kd3 | damn it ixx |
| 02:13.14 | kd3 | you have a frontal cone ability... I'm /behind/ you. stop one-shotting me |
| 02:13.21 | Adys | kd3: stop sucking |
| 02:13.21 | foxlit | kar? |
| 02:13.31 | Adys | pop mirror image and timewarp the fuck out of him |
| 02:13.37 | Adys | everything up until rank 7 is easy |
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| 02:24.56 | Dagmar | Pfft. I dunno about that. That goddamn gator bites f**king HARD |
| 02:25.15 | Dagmar | Some of them are incredibly unforgiving of not doing the thing you *have* to do. |
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| 02:40.37 | kd3 | huh |
| 02:40.46 | kd3 | crush charged at me once, then just froze in the center of the arena |
| 02:40.48 | kd3 | almost felt unfair |
| 02:41.27 | Adys | Dagmar: #bruced |
| 02:42.43 | Dagmar | Damn right |
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| 02:43.01 | Dagmar | I feel like I'm throwing pets at that guy just to keep him occupied eating things which are Not_Me |
| 02:49.54 | Adys | .. are you chainwiping on bruce |
| 02:50.01 | Adys | cause that guy has 1.5m hp |
| 02:59.20 | Dagmar | Nope. It's just incredibly harrowing. |
| 02:59.28 | Dagmar | He fuckin' bites for 300k |
| 03:00.10 | Dagmar | I am specced for pet survivability, and you just can't DPS him fast enough or Mend Pet enough to keep a pet alive through that |
| 03:00.52 | Dagmar | I'm pretty much having to wait until the pet is about dead (this WITH Mend Pet rolling 100%) and then throw out Stampede the second it dies, so he has to chew up five more pets while I res the tanking pet. |
| 03:01.18 | Jamash | ah, chain pet rezzing |
| 03:01.26 | Jamash | I used that to tame one of the challenge magma spiders |
| 03:01.29 | Dagmar | That so not the usual hunter way of doing things |
| 03:02.30 | Jamash | you have a turkle pet? |
| 03:03.16 | Dagmar | I have one, but it wasn't really enough |
| 03:03.20 | Jamash | ah |
| 03:03.40 | Dagmar | Gorilla/Caterpillar only dies once, but it's dicey having to actually plan on him dying and then throwing up Stampede |
| 03:05.24 | Mr_Rabies | lol we kinda broke dragon soul |
| 03:05.33 | Mr_Rabies | we killed two tentacles at once |
| 03:05.38 | Mr_Rabies | on madness |
| 03:07.34 | Dagmar | Wow |
| 03:09.20 | Mr_Rabies | we had meteors and mini-tentacles on the wrong platforms |
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| 05:04.14 | Arrowmaster | Ackis: the ambassador msn bot has been quiet all night, everybody must be using the website to grab questions quickly |
| 05:08.31 | bluipodcow | Anyone wanna paste bin a trace route to 12.129.209.68 for me ? Must have good connection to D3 |
| 05:09.09 | kd3 | http://pastebin.com/uf127Y6g |
| 05:09.15 | kd3 | 14's the first blizz hop |
| 05:10.52 | bluipodcow | That looks like its going in the LA data centre |
| 05:11.00 | bluipodcow | Thanks kd3 |
| 05:14.17 | bluipodcow | Duh |
| 05:14.29 | bluipodcow | What's de latest D3 version ? |
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| 05:51.01 | Scotepi | is there a way to translate a inventory slot id into that name of that slot? I do have item link also but i think just the id would be better. I can't figure out how the paper doll populates the tooltips |
| 05:51.42 | Ackis | Arrowmaster: I've answered two through the website so far tonight |
| 05:51.43 | Scotepi | on a empty slot it just says "hands" i cant find that global anywhere |
| 05:52.57 | Arrowmaster | Ackis: im up to 4 or 5 i think using a windows laptop next to me |
| 05:53.12 | Scotepi | I guess I could do a manual table for INVTYPE_XXX to ID |
| 05:53.28 | Arrowmaster | Scotepi: i swear theres a function for that |
| 05:53.43 | Arrowmaster | !api inventory |
| 05:53.44 | lua_bot | Found 26 possible matches for 'inventory'. Please be more specific or check Google search results: http://is.gd/O6LG29 |
| 05:55.16 | Arrowmaster | i guess its the other way around |
| 05:55.39 | Arrowmaster | a function to get the id from name |
| 05:56.30 | Scotepi | I'll just make a table for the referance |
| 05:57.46 | Arrowmaster | Ackis: theres 6 open questions right now, i just dont want to answer any of them |
| 05:59.47 | kd3 | oh blizz, that's just mean: http://www.wowpedia.org/Fractured_Qiraji_Crystal |
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| 06:01.20 | Mr_Rabies | but those things are super common :< |
| 06:01.30 | Mr_Rabies | i get at least 2-3 every aq40 clear |
| 06:01.43 | kd3 | it took me a few weeks to get 1 |
| 06:01.58 | Mr_Rabies | really? dang |
| 06:02.10 | Arrowmaster | does it not drop anymore now? |
| 06:02.18 | ZorbaTHut | the red ones are rare, the others are pretty dang common |
| 06:02.33 | kd3 | it's always been rare, just not every other drop like the other three |
| 06:02.51 | Mr_Rabies | it seems like about a 10% drop chance or so from those mobs |
| 06:02.57 | bluipodcow | Hmmmm |
| 06:03.24 | Mr_Rabies | wowhead says 1.5-2% but i dunno |
| 06:03.25 | bluipodcow | I wonder if the launcher now uses IE HTML engine or chrome ? |
| 06:03.32 | Mr_Rabies | maybe i'm just really lucky at getting stuff i no longer need |
| 06:03.39 | kd3 | anyone remember which bandana dropped from the defias that wasn't just a quest item? |
| 06:03.56 | Arrowmaster | you know whats even worse, i got a red one on my very first trip into AQ40 from the mobs before the very first boss before we even pulled the boss for the very first time |
| 06:03.58 | Mr_Rabies | red defias bandana? i forget the full title |
| 06:03.59 | Arrowmaster | on the PTR server |
| 06:04.16 | bluipodcow | Think you can tell me the dll names in the battle.net folder |
| 06:04.35 | bluipodcow | whoops wrong grammar in that |
| 06:04.52 | Arrowmaster | on the day the PTR went up too i think |
| 06:04.54 | bluipodcow | "Think you can tell by ..." |
| 06:05.34 | Mr_Rabies | aha kd3 |
| 06:05.35 | Mr_Rabies | http://www.wowhead.com/item=7997/red-defias-mask |
| 06:05.50 | kd3 | <3 |
| 06:06.14 | kd3 | http://www.wowpedia.org/Imitation_Vision_of_Sargeras |
| 06:09.49 | Neffi | http://i.imgur.com/h4DKI.jpg |
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| 06:32.13 | kd3 | I'm having too much fun filling out the references to all of the crap in the Brawler's Purse |
| 06:32.19 | kd3 | http://www.wowpedia.org/Brawler%27s_Purse |
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| 07:00.54 | Mr_Rabies | why do i even try with lfr anymore |
| 07:01.04 | Mr_Rabies | almost wipe on the trash in the first boss room |
| 07:01.11 | Mr_Rabies | everyone's needing on every green no matter what |
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| 07:02.46 | Jammer | should really remove the needing on greens in lfr, but nobody really there for greenies anyway so not that huge deal :p |
| 07:03.21 | Mr_Rabies | still though |
| 07:03.33 | Mr_Rabies | i'm forced to be a jerk in order to help supply my trade |
| 07:04.09 | Corveroth | Just bump the loot threshold, really, leave greens with the vendor trash. |
| 07:04.11 | nevcairiel | if everyone does it, you're hardly a jerk, its just the defined contention to need on it |
| 07:04.22 | nevcairiel | convention* |
| 07:04.42 | Mr_Rabies | needing on something you can't equip is being a jerk |
| 07:05.01 | nevcairiel | since no-one in a LFR should really "need" any green item, its irrelevant |
| 07:05.36 | Corveroth | Once you get to the meta, "everyone will and no one needs" level, it's not being a jerk. |
| 07:05.40 | Corveroth | For newbies, it's a trap. |
| 07:06.07 | Jammer | Corveroth: thing is they turn bop if you need |
| 07:06.14 | Jammer | if you're not enchanter on that character then it's a huge waste |
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| 07:06.25 | nevcairiel | eh? since when did that happen? |
| 07:06.37 | Corveroth | Whether you shard it or vendor it, you've got as much right as anyone else to a fair share of the loot. |
| 07:06.39 | Mr_Rabies | like, 4.2? |
| 07:06.50 | Shirik | http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/12/16/us-usa-mall-shooting-idUSBRE8BF02220121216 |
| 07:06.53 | Shirik | More signs of the end of the world |
| 07:07.07 | Corveroth | But you need to understand the higher-level politics to choose "need" when you don't actually need. |
| 07:07.10 | Mr_Rabies | i was in a lfd earlier today |
| 07:07.15 | Mr_Rabies | pally dps was afking for trash |
| 07:07.17 | Mr_Rabies | following the healer |
| 07:07.26 | Corveroth | That's a separate issue. |
| 07:07.29 | Mr_Rabies | so i started following him and typing /train |
| 07:07.35 | Corveroth | Oh. |
| 07:07.36 | Corveroth | Heh |
| 07:07.43 | nevcairiel | Shirik: its just all the depressed americans coming out for christmas |
| 07:07.44 | Mr_Rabies | booted him before the last boss |
| 07:09.31 | Mr_Rabies | healer was like "he's doing schoolwork between bosses" |
| 07:09.37 | Mr_Rabies | as if that's supposed to give us any sympathy for him |
| 07:09.50 | Mr_Rabies | yeah, he did about 80k on bosses, but it doesn't matter |
| 07:09.59 | nevcairiel | all that tells me that he is probably some annoying 14 year old |
| 07:10.39 | Mr_Rabies | eh, i don't really subscribe much to that kind of thought |
| 07:11.15 | nevcairiel | plenty big raiding guilds have age limits for a reason =P |
| 07:11.56 | Mr_Rabies | i think really the biggest reason to have an age limit on a guild personally is generally adults have more reliable schedules |
| 07:12.08 | Mr_Rabies | having to find another rogue because yours is grounded for a month sucks |
| 07:12.23 | Corveroth | Yeah, that was the reasoning my last serious guild used. |
| 07:14.34 | Jammer | wouldn't wow be the best tool to keep someone home? ;p |
| 07:14.57 | nevcairiel | usually you dont want them to have fun while grounded :p |
| 07:15.49 | Mr_Rabies | i'm getting really, really tired of group content |
| 07:15.57 | Mr_Rabies | i can't wait until i'm past the point where i have to run lfr |
| 07:16.16 | nevcairiel | and whats then? there is nothing :p |
| 07:16.19 | Mr_Rabies | because i'm running content i don't enjoy, which tends to not last very long |
| 07:16.19 | nevcairiel | just stop playing now |
| 07:16.27 | Mr_Rabies | well |
| 07:16.29 | Mr_Rabies | not group content |
| 07:16.33 | Mr_Rabies | i meant "random group content" |
| 07:16.37 | Corveroth | Really? The queueing gets tedious, but I've honestly been pretty okay with LFR. |
| 07:16.47 | Mr_Rabies | but i'm trying to run back after the tanks pulled without anyone there and wiped us on trash |
| 07:17.04 | nevcairiel | so you want to do real raiding? |
| 07:17.17 | Mr_Rabies | that's pretty much all i did after a point in DS |
| 07:17.49 | Corveroth | LFR if you wanna see stuff, normals if you wanna work together, heroics if you wanna be hardcore. |
| 07:18.13 | Mr_Rabies | all the random group content is really bad with my "battlegroup" or whatever the term is for our lfd/lfr combo |
| 07:18.55 | Corveroth | The groups I've been in generally don't tolerate people who screw shit up. |
| 07:19.01 | Corveroth | You misbehave, you get kicked, we continue. |
| 07:19.07 | Mr_Rabies | most of ours are spanish-speaking |
| 07:19.20 | Corveroth | Language barriers probably wouldn't help. |
| 07:19.34 | Mr_Rabies | language barrier plus idiots plus griefers is just |
| 07:19.36 | Mr_Rabies | too much for me |
| 07:20.14 | Corveroth | I find most of the idiots can be set straight (enough, at least) if you pause to just /say some instructions near them. |
| 07:20.17 | Corveroth | But again, language |
| 07:20.59 | Mr_Rabies | it's just slowly sapping my will to play wow |
| 07:21.12 | Mr_Rabies | for most of DS i logged in for about 6 hours a week: raid time, and that's it |
| 07:21.16 | Mr_Rabies | it's heading that way again soon |
| 07:22.08 | Corveroth | Is this normal mode raid time you're talking about? |
| 07:22.24 | Corveroth | Or, normal/heroic? Organized? |
| 07:23.23 | Mr_Rabies | "raid time" for me is currently an organized 10man normal mode |
| 07:24.20 | Corveroth | Alright. Why do you focus your gametime on raiding? |
| 07:24.27 | Corveroth | Inherently fun activity? |
| 07:24.34 | Corveroth | Just "what raiders do"? |
| 07:24.38 | Corveroth | Hanging with friends? |
| 07:25.00 | Mr_Rabies | lol a hunter just turned on aspect for the tornado part of 2nd boss in hof |
| 07:25.07 | Mr_Rabies | goddamnit |
| 07:25.26 | Mr_Rabies | because it's the only fun thing left, Corveroth |
| 07:25.35 | Corveroth | But why is it fun? |
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| 07:25.59 | Mr_Rabies | working with people that aren't total idiots and jerks is a nice change of pace |
| 07:26.36 | Corveroth | Is that just lack of frustration, or do you really enjoy the collaboration? |
| 07:26.43 | Dagmar | If you're working with a bunch of tight-ass douchebag raiders, even if they consistently down bosses, drop them. You just picked up a crappy job with an even crappier salary. |
| 07:27.04 | Dagmar | If they drink heavily and down bosses "most" of the time, keep them. |
| 07:27.16 | Mr_Rabies | no, i love working with my raid group |
| 07:27.19 | Mr_Rabies | we're all friends |
| 07:27.25 | Dagmar | We oike to think of it as our own little "long raid handicap" |
| 07:27.36 | Corveroth | Well, sounds like you'd like Challenge Modes, if you can find four other people to set aside a few hours. |
| 07:27.51 | Mr_Rabies | oh great that hunter just wiped us at the end of the last phase of the 2nd boss in hof |
| 07:27.52 | Mr_Rabies | awesome |
| 07:27.55 | Mr_Rabies | fucking hell |
| 07:27.56 | Mr_Rabies | i'm done with lfr |
| 07:28.10 | Corveroth | It's not the deepest well of new content right now, but it's in the same vein. |
| 07:28.29 | Corveroth | That's. . . a really weird mixed metaphor. |
| 07:28.38 | Corveroth | But you get what I'm sayin', I hope. |
| 07:29.25 | Dagmar | I assume you can still vote that dimwit off the raid, right? |
| 07:29.29 | Mr_Rabies | weee |
| 07:29.34 | Mr_Rabies | gonna talk to his gm |
| 07:29.38 | Mr_Rabies | maybe get him booted from his guild |
| 07:29.40 | Mr_Rabies | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/emerald-dream/Ronine/advanced |
| 07:30.05 | Dagmar | ...cuz at LFR levels, I don't see 24-manning it being a big problem |
| 07:30.21 | Corveroth | On Blade Lord, I could see Aspect fucking things up. |
| 07:30.40 | Mr_Rabies | well that's the thing dagmar |
| 07:30.48 | Mr_Rabies | he was using aspect of the pack on the final part of that boss |
| 07:30.59 | Mr_Rabies | which slows you down when you get hit, and you're constantly taking damage on that part |
| 07:31.10 | Corveroth | Still, if he was honestly confused or just mixed up Cheetah/Pack, he fucked up, but that's a learnable mistake. |
| 07:31.13 | Dagmar | Stuns players when they take any damage |
| 07:31.24 | Corveroth | If he was griefing, that's another story. |
| 07:31.31 | Mr_Rabies | he was griefing |
| 07:31.34 | Mr_Rabies | there's no way he didn't know |
| 07:31.35 | mikma | anyone knows is any addon exists that let's you set notes into items |
| 07:31.58 | Corveroth | You'd be surprised. Did anyone tell him, "hey, you're killing the raid"? |
| 07:32.12 | Mr_Rabies | yes |
| 07:32.18 | Mr_Rabies | he never turned it off |
| 07:32.22 | Mr_Rabies | and he's from an english-speaking realm |
| 07:32.57 | Corveroth | Eh, if he's ignoring say/whisper, than the best I can say is that he was inattentive, in which case he deserved a raid kick. Gkick might be much, I dunno. |
| 07:33.06 | Mr_Rabies | no |
| 07:33.09 | Mr_Rabies | he read it after |
| 07:33.13 | Mr_Rabies | or during |
| 07:34.04 | Mr_Rabies | [02:27][Instance] [Ronine-EmeraldDream]: without my pack on we would have gone much slower , remmeber we are going against the wind |
| 07:35.32 | Corveroth | Could make the argument that he didn't realize there was any raid damage. It *is* LFR. |
| 07:35.33 | Dagmar | OKay, sounds like he's dumb as hell. |
| 07:35.58 | Dagmar | That *might* be correctable. |
| 07:36.11 | Corveroth | I mean, it's a movement phase, if you aren't healing that or haven't seen it in a difficult difficulty, you might not expect damage. |
| 07:36.37 | Corveroth | Sure as hell caught me off-guard in Normal. |
| 07:36.56 | Mr_Rabies | doesn't matter |
| 07:37.00 | Corveroth | (and my entire raid group, for what it's worth) |
| 07:37.05 | Mr_Rabies | you should know that before 90 |
| 07:37.14 | Mr_Rabies | i have no sympathy for idiots |
| 07:37.32 | Corveroth | That it dazes on damage? Yes. That that phase had damage? |
| 07:37.51 | Mr_Rabies | it was up for a good...5 minutes? |
| 07:37.56 | Mr_Rabies | before he finally died |
| 07:38.01 | Mr_Rabies | because everyone stopped healing him |
| 07:40.29 | Corveroth | I could still see him being just totally confused and then posturing to cover his ass afterwards. |
| 07:40.34 | Mr_Rabies | doesn't matter |
| 07:40.38 | Corveroth | Alternatively, if he *was* trolling, well, troll successful. |
| 07:40.42 | Corveroth | As this conversion proves. |
| 07:40.58 | Mr_Rabies | griefer or ignorant, he's a moron regardless |
| 07:41.22 | Corveroth | One of them is easily correctable, is my point. |
| 07:41.23 | Mr_Rabies | idiocy that is indistiguishable from malice is malice, as far as i'm concerned |
| 07:41.35 | Mr_Rabies | if someone's that dumb, there's no fixing them |
| 07:41.39 | Corveroth | Try the cure, if it doesn't work, votekick 'em. |
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| 07:42.01 | Mr_Rabies | suffer not the moron to live |
| 07:42.26 | Corveroth | No sense alienating people just because they don't get it yet. Why shrink the pool of potentially pleasant co-players? |
| 07:42.50 | Mr_Rabies | if he doesn't get it by the time he's in HoF, he probably won't |
| 07:43.00 | Mr_Rabies | it's almost definitely trolling though |
| 07:43.12 | Mr_Rabies | he turned it on right as that phase started |
| 07:43.28 | Mr_Rabies | because it's the most noticable and harmful there |
| 07:43.45 | Shirik | Cairenn: http://i.imgur.com/YYhfZ.jpg |
| 07:43.49 | Corveroth | All that means is he knew the general flow of the fight. That's conveniently available in the Dungeon Journal or any number of walkthroughts. |
| 07:43.52 | Cairenn | ehehhehe |
| 07:44.00 | Cairenn | cute puppy |
| 07:44.33 | Corveroth | And there goes that train of thought. Puppy! |
| 07:44.39 | Mr_Rabies | he has all the northrend dungeon achievements |
| 07:44.45 | Mr_Rabies | there's no way he didn't know |
| 07:44.54 | Mr_Rabies | he got them in 2009 |
| 07:45.03 | Mr_Rabies | i dunno |
| 07:45.04 | Mr_Rabies | either way |
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| 07:45.10 | Mr_Rabies | i don't want anything to do with that guy |
| 07:45.13 | Dagmar | Yeah, I'd have to agree. |
| 07:45.23 | Dagmar | It's hard to not notice the fucking stars over your own head as a hunter. |
| 07:45.29 | Mr_Rabies | and if i mention it to his guild master, maybe he'll give him some coaching or a boot |
| 07:45.41 | Mr_Rabies | i don't run crying to the guild master, i just let them know their guildy is making their guild look bad |
| 07:45.41 | Dagmar | Generally you *KNOW* it means you're fucking up |
| 07:45.54 | Mr_Rabies | i'm not all |
| 07:46.01 | Mr_Rabies | BOOT HIM OR I WILL KILL ONE HOSTAGE EVERY HOUR YOU DON'T |
| 07:46.31 | Corveroth | shakes his head. |
| 07:46.39 | Corveroth | I just can't handle that level of cynicism these days. |
| 07:47.19 | Mr_Rabies | i'm just like "one of your guildies did this, and that makes your guild look bad. i know i'd like to know if one of our guildies was being a jerk, so i'm just informing you" |
| 07:47.51 | Mr_Rabies | unfortunately lfd and lfr has made me a cynic |
| 07:48.06 | Mr_Rabies | our datacenter cluster is really, really bad |
| 07:48.20 | Mr_Rabies | it's rarely even remotely enjoyable to do any kind of random group content |
| 07:48.36 | Mr_Rabies | every single run has some kind of fatal flaw that would make me leave if i didn't need the valor points |
| 07:48.47 | Mr_Rabies | like, literally 100% of them |
| 07:49.14 | Mr_Rabies | and it's impossible to get an organized run going anymore, it's just not part of peoples' psyche anymore |
| 07:49.46 | Corveroth | If they're making you so miserable, opt. out. Dailies are grueling, but you've got guildies you might partner with. |
| 07:49.56 | Corveroth | Or even any battletag/realID friends. |
| 07:50.08 | Corveroth | Make them something to look forward to, rather than dread. |
| 07:50.13 | Mr_Rabies | i'm done with dailies now too |
| 07:50.21 | Mr_Rabies | i got them all to revered and i'm stopping there |
| 07:50.26 | Corveroth | Alternate source of valor, though. |
| 07:50.33 | Mr_Rabies | not much better :| |
| 07:50.49 | Mr_Rabies | i'd rather have fun and earn valor, but it's hard getting guild groups together for anything |
| 07:51.03 | Mr_Rabies | people are just so used to solo queueing now |
| 07:51.06 | Corveroth | You could do dailies with one or two guildies and blaze through them, or the three of you could try to carry an entire 25-man raid. |
| 07:51.23 | Corveroth | I'd take the former, in your shoes =) |
| 07:51.40 | Corveroth | Plus, dailies are pretty fast in terms of valor per hour. |
| 07:51.42 | Mr_Rabies | honestly i've been thinking about getting some guildies together and chain running scenarios |
| 07:51.48 | Corveroth | Or that, sure. |
| 07:51.51 | Mr_Rabies | they're really a lot of fun compared to instances |
| 07:51.59 | Mr_Rabies | even idiots can't ruin those very well |
| 07:52.05 | Corveroth | Or, again, hit some Challenge Modes. They WILL make you work. |
| 07:52.10 | Corveroth | Or at least, stop and think. |
| 07:52.14 | Mr_Rabies | people without dps specs can significantly slow you down |
| 07:52.25 | Mr_Rabies | problem with challenge modes is that no one runs them |
| 07:52.37 | Mr_Rabies | do you get vp and whatnot for challenge modes at least? |
| 07:52.38 | Corveroth | You could be the one to start a guild group. |
| 07:52.43 | Corveroth | Yup. |
| 07:53.01 | Mr_Rabies | isn't the vp for regular 5 mans from doing a random though? |
| 07:53.04 | Corveroth | Scales with your time, gold/silver/bronze/no medal. |
| 07:53.05 | Mr_Rabies | you can't do a random with challenge modes |
| 07:53.09 | Mr_Rabies | oh, really? |
| 07:53.15 | Corveroth | Yup. |
| 07:53.31 | Mr_Rabies | that's a good idea, but we rarely have 5 people on the same page at any given time except when it's scheduled raid time |
| 07:53.43 | Corveroth | And each day, dude in your faction's Pan-Dalaran capital will give you a quest for bonus VP in a specific CM. |
| 07:54.13 | Corveroth | So float the idea. "Hey, I wanna do CMs and these are my open times. Who's interested and when could you free an hour or two?" |
| 07:54.44 | Mr_Rabies | i don't think many people know that they have any kind of substantial reward |
| 07:55.24 | Mr_Rabies | the druid challenge gear is hideous to me, so i wrote them off entirely |
| 07:55.34 | Corveroth | The blues have only been mentioning it every single time people complain about VP =P |
| 07:55.46 | Mr_Rabies | i really don't read the forums much |
| 07:55.50 | Mr_Rabies | especially complaint threads |
| 07:55.53 | Mr_Rabies | i prefer complaining in irc |
| 07:56.01 | Mr_Rabies | it's more personal and realtime |
| 07:56.06 | Corveroth | Here's numbers: 85/70/55 for gold/silver/bronze, and a daily quest for a bonus 80 for a random one each day. |
| 07:56.39 | Corveroth | And yeah, I'm not much sold on the druid gear as a *set*. I'd take a few pieces for my own patchwork mog sets though. |
| 07:57.06 | Mr_Rabies | that's still pretty miserable, vp is such a chore this tier |
| 07:57.08 | Mr_Rabies | :| |
| 07:57.17 | Mr_Rabies | i didn't even bother capping last week |
| 07:57.24 | Mr_Rabies | i'm not gonna tell my guild though, they'll kill me |
| 07:58.18 | Mr_Rabies | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/challenge/dungeon/temple-of-the-jade-serpent/realm/llane/ |
| 07:58.27 | Mr_Rabies | look at our leaderboard for an idea about how common they are |
| 07:58.28 | Mr_Rabies | lol |
| 07:59.13 | Mr_Rabies | we literally have one group that got gold |
| 07:59.35 | Corveroth | Look at Drenden. We've got more groups that ranked well, but still only about 20 groups. |
| 07:59.48 | Corveroth | None of them, for the record, include me =( |
| 08:00.11 | Mr_Rabies | can you do challenge modes cross-realm? :o |
| 08:00.11 | Corveroth | I've got a bronze on Siege of Niuzao, and that's all for now. |
| 08:00.20 | Corveroth | I don't *think* so. |
| 08:00.23 | Mr_Rabies | yes, yes you can, actualyl |
| 08:00.27 | Mr_Rabies | the leaderboard has them :O |
| 08:00.29 | Corveroth | O_O |
| 08:00.35 | Mr_Rabies | a * beside the cross realmers |
| 08:00.38 | Corveroth | Very cool. |
| 08:00.57 | Mr_Rabies | openraid should add support for 5 mans |
| 08:01.02 | Mr_Rabies | i should suggest that |
| 08:01.13 | Mr_Rabies | i'd seriously love pre-organized 5 man content |
| 08:01.37 | Mr_Rabies | i love openraid raiding because people are there to get crap done, not waste time goofing around |
| 08:01.45 | Corveroth | I think a lot of people would, it's just convincing people to set aside time for that. |
| 08:02.00 | Corveroth | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/challenge/dungeon/siege-of-niuzao-temple/realm/drenden/ |
| 08:02.03 | Corveroth | #14, there's me! |
| 08:02.06 | Mr_Rabies | that's what makes openraid so great though, as long as there's a demand, there's a signup sheet and reputation, etc |
| 08:02.28 | Corveroth | And yeah, that happened on a night when we didn't have the manpower to raid. So I get the scheduling thing =) |
| 08:02.57 | Mr_Rabies | god we need to kill elegon |
| 08:03.24 | Mr_Rabies | we've got some slackers in our raid too, but i'm not really super-pushy about that sort of thing unless someone's really, really bad |
| 08:03.54 | Mr_Rabies | we did boot a mage because her dps was lower than the tanks though :| |
| 08:04.19 | Corveroth | Hah, we're super casual at this point. We've got two guys starting new jobs, and one with a daughter born a few months ago. |
| 08:04.29 | Corveroth | This, in a tight-knit, core of IRL friends 10-man guild. |
| 08:04.31 | Mr_Rabies | she's good at staying out of environmental effects, but she was hampering progression a lot |
| 08:04.38 | Mr_Rabies | ours was like that last tier |
| 08:04.43 | Mr_Rabies | this one's gone straight to hell though |
| 08:04.56 | Mr_Rabies | people leaving constantly from burnout from dailies, etc |
| 08:05.03 | Mr_Rabies | well, not IRL |
| 08:05.06 | Mr_Rabies | but otherwise |
| 08:05.20 | Mr_Rabies | we keep having to change our roster almost every other week |
| 08:05.23 | Corveroth | Kinda feeling the same at the moment. Dailies might be a factor, but not sure it's everything. |
| 08:05.28 | Mr_Rabies | and it's killing progression (and morale) |
| 08:05.32 | Mr_Rabies | so more people drop |
| 08:05.53 | Mr_Rabies | i think we just pulled out of the spiral though because our mage that left from burnout is back after a few weeks off |
| 08:05.56 | Dagmar | Corevroth: Excellent! You'll have a standby Paladin available in about two months then |
| 08:06.04 | Corveroth | Heh, right? |
| 08:06.09 | Mr_Rabies | just in time for christmas to screw up our raid schedule and progression |
| 08:06.17 | Mr_Rabies | :p |
| 08:06.29 | Mr_Rabies | i'm not really that interested in progression |
| 08:06.35 | Mr_Rabies | but we haven't moved in weeks |
| 08:06.41 | Mr_Rabies | we've been 4/6 for like...2 months |
| 08:06.44 | Mr_Rabies | or longer |
| 08:06.53 | Mr_Rabies | and the fights aren't even hard :| |
| 08:07.00 | Corveroth | 4/6+1/6 here, just got Vizier last week. |
| 08:07.09 | Mr_Rabies | oh yeah we're 1/6 in HoF |
| 08:07.09 | Corveroth | Elegon is a shithead. |
| 08:07.20 | Mr_Rabies | almost 5/6, 2/6 |
| 08:07.20 | Corveroth | I KNOW YOUR PAIN, MAN |
| 08:07.26 | Mr_Rabies | he's not even that hard |
| 08:07.34 | Mr_Rabies | our roster just needs to stick |
| 08:07.47 | Mr_Rabies | having to regear someone every 2 weeks isn't helping |
| 08:08.11 | Corveroth | If you hadn't already linked your realm's CM times, I'd ask if you were secretly a guildie =P |
| 08:08.25 | Mr_Rabies | lol |
| 08:08.28 | Mr_Rabies | i think it's common |
| 08:08.35 | Mr_Rabies | this expansion's got a real recipe for burnout |
| 08:08.50 | Mr_Rabies | time-consuming dailies, easy content, long beta |
| 08:08.51 | Dagmar | Folks need to be lazier. |
| 08:09.11 | Dagmar | If you give less of a shit, and go days ignoring dailies, much easier. |
| 08:09.16 | Mr_Rabies | problem is, the game's designed to punish you for slacking, and publically |
| 08:09.26 | Corveroth | Nah. That's a social thing. |
| 08:09.31 | Mr_Rabies | if you should have x amount of raid gear after y time |
| 08:09.32 | Dagmar | The "unlimited dailies" thing is evil |
| 08:09.34 | Mr_Rabies | and you don't |
| 08:09.36 | Mr_Rabies | you're slacking |
| 08:09.50 | Mr_Rabies | and you really have to waste a lot of time to vp cap nowadays |
| 08:10.06 | Mr_Rabies | i really wish it was like last tier where it was 7 dalies and you're set |
| 08:10.09 | Dagmar | Well, you can also just do a fuckton of scenarios |
| 08:10.12 | Corveroth | The ceiling on gear per time is game design. Ostracizing people for not scraping that ceiling is social. |
| 08:10.24 | Mr_Rabies | 40-50 scenarios a week, right? |
| 08:10.27 | Mr_Rabies | that's actually not too bad |
| 08:10.28 | Mr_Rabies | considering |
| 08:10.45 | Dagmar | Some of them are comedy gold, IF YOU CAN SOLO IT |
| 08:11.02 | Mr_Rabies | i find i solo most scenarios i go to |
| 08:11.04 | Dagmar | Brewnall Village is like watching Benny Hill if you get paired with a couple of mages. |
| 08:11.10 | Mr_Rabies | 66-70% of the group's dps |
| 08:11.17 | Mr_Rabies | generally |
| 08:11.18 | Corveroth | 1 Heroic + 1 Scenario per day gets you all the way to 840 VP. Take your pick of ways to gather the remainder, it won't be hard. |
| 08:11.24 | Dagmar | Jus tmages runnin' and screaming all over the place |
| 08:11.48 | Mr_Rabies | i don't really care about people doing crappy dps because they have crappy gear |
| 08:11.54 | Dagmar | I've learned that 2-mage scenarios mean I need to take a moment to explain what the giant white monkey is for. |
| 08:11.58 | Mr_Rabies | that's a game mechanic and by design |
| 08:12.05 | Mr_Rabies | but |
| 08:12.13 | Mr_Rabies | 17k? really? |
| 08:12.14 | Mr_Rabies | :| |
| 08:12.24 | Mr_Rabies | i could autoattack and do more than that |
| 08:12.32 | Mr_Rabies | admittedly i'm reasonably well geared, but still |
| 08:12.33 | Dagmar | Not in pre-raid gear you can't |
| 08:12.43 | Mr_Rabies | yeah, but i'm talking auto-attack |
| 08:13.03 | Mr_Rabies | a fresh 90 can do about 25-30k depending on class and spec |
| 08:13.16 | Dagmar | I was doing more DPS in raids at 85 than I did just running around PvE when I hit 90 |
| 08:13.16 | Mr_Rabies | unless they only did instances and never won anything |
| 08:13.40 | Dagmar | It's be no means guaranteed that someone's going to be doing 20k at 90 |
| 08:13.50 | Dagmar | s/be/by/ |
| 08:14.08 | Mr_Rabies | if they're a dps class and spec, that should be cake |
| 08:14.24 | Mr_Rabies | i was certainly doing more than that at 90, and almost all my gear was from dragon soul |
| 08:14.39 | Mr_Rabies | the only thing that wasn't was my weapon, which i traded halfway through 89 |
| 08:14.53 | Dagmar | Strangely, some folks actually gear for survivability until they hit 90 |
| 08:15.14 | Dagmar | A glass cannon mage can find the level climb *very* unforgiving. |
| 08:15.54 | Corveroth | Without any focus on survival, I know I found it painful as all hell around the time I hit Townlong, as a feral. |
| 08:16.07 | Corveroth | Learned to really lean into the Maim key. |
| 08:16.39 | Mr_Rabies | yeah, i was getting wrecked in dread wastes at 89-early 90 |
| 08:16.49 | Mr_Rabies | until i unlocked a few augments |
| 08:17.10 | Mr_Rabies | because all my gear was heroic DS gear |
| 08:17.15 | Corveroth | I do love me some Raining Blood. Best zone for grinding. |
| 08:17.22 | mikma | cairenn: use your almighty powers and find me a addon that allows me to add notes into items |
| 08:17.40 | Mr_Rabies | i fashioned a field of magical crystals from all the freakin' leather healing belts i DEd in dragon soul |
| 08:17.51 | Mr_Rabies | and wore those instead of pants |
| 08:18.02 | Corveroth | Oh, hey, before I pop out for the night, I did have a serious wowdev-y question. |
| 08:18.09 | Cairenn | mikma: no? |
| 08:18.43 | Corveroth | I'm looking for any advice on building a GUI without gouging my eyes out. I wanna build using BLizz's textures to match look-n-feel, but augh. |
| 08:19.04 | Mr_Rabies | like, building your own from scratch or building a suite from other addons? :o |
| 08:19.27 | Corveroth | Like, I want to add a panel that blends seamlessly with Player/Pet/Reputations/etc. |
| 08:19.38 | Mr_Rabies | matching blizzard's textures |
| 08:19.41 | Mr_Rabies | not gouging your eyes out |
| 08:19.43 | Mr_Rabies | pick one |
| 08:19.46 | Corveroth | =/ |
| 08:20.02 | Mr_Rabies | no, there're plenty of addons that only use those |
| 08:20.45 | Mr_Rabies | what are you attempting to build? i'm useless in technical terms but i'm trying to maybe pique some peoples' interests that might be able to help with that part maybe :p |
| 08:20.45 | Dagmar | Trying to get some eggs I mailed myself. "There are 117 messages not currently shown." |
| 08:20.49 | Dagmar | *sigh* |
| 08:20.49 | mikma | cairenn: oh i thought you were master at wowi-fu |
| 08:21.07 | Mr_Rabies | she's not just the founder, she's also a client |
| 08:21.11 | Cairenn | I am, I'm just tired atm |
| 08:21.16 | Corveroth | Well, I did this once in the past. See, Chill Effect. http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info16409-ChillEffect.html |
| 08:21.23 | Dagmar | Maybe I should start selling these glyphs as "novelty rolling papers" or something. |
| 08:21.40 | Corveroth | I just recall it being a massively time-consuming task to dig through and find the right textures and get everything aligned. |
| 08:21.46 | Mr_Rabies | yeah, inscription is a very, very volatile profession |
| 08:21.55 | Corveroth | I want there to be an easier way, or just any shortcuts anyone might have learned. |
| 08:22.01 | Mr_Rabies | once average progression hits a certain point, everything's gonna sell at a loss |
| 08:22.40 | Mr_Rabies | you could look into sharedmedia maybe Corveroth, i believe it pulls the default textures as well as some custom ones |
| 08:23.25 | Corveroth | I'll poke it. I thought that focused more on broadly reusable stuff, like bar textures. |
| 08:23.58 | Mr_Rabies | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info8093-SharedMedia-Blizzard.html |
| 08:24.05 | Mr_Rabies | dunno how much this'll help |
| 08:24.25 | Mr_Rabies | i'm pretty useless when it comes to anything technical with coding, but i am addicted to installing addons |
| 08:25.28 | Corveroth | "Why can't I hold all these .luas?" |
| 08:25.43 | Mr_Rabies | http://www.curse.com/addons/wow/libsharedmedia-3-0 for the actual library |
| 08:26.04 | Mr_Rabies | i think that one's just an addon that adds more textures that fit in with the blizzard ones or something |
| 08:26.26 | Corveroth | Yeah, I'll have to check it, but I fear I'm on my own again. |
| 08:26.50 | Mr_Rabies | http://www.wowace.com/addons/libsharedmedia-3-0/ |
| 08:26.58 | Corveroth | This is really bothering me right now, because I've got the actual "do stuff" logic done for an addon. |
| 08:27.05 | Mr_Rabies | yeah |
| 08:27.08 | Corveroth | It's just the "show stuff" part I've been putting off. |
| 08:27.17 | Corveroth | For, uh, about half a year. |
| 08:27.43 | Mr_Rabies | could hook it into sharedmedia and just have a default and have it be configurable for people like me that tweak every little thing |
| 08:28.11 | Corveroth | Being configurable, at that level, is kinda outside the scope of the addon. |
| 08:28.20 | Mr_Rabies | ah |
| 08:28.37 | Corveroth | Check that last link of mine, you'll see what I'm going for. |
| 08:28.37 | Dagmar | ...or you could just go for large, opaque, unmovable boxes with no trim in garish colors, and make damn sure everyone helps fix it. |
| 08:28.57 | Dagmar | Think HP OpenVue. |
| 08:29.05 | Mr_Rabies | that's pretty much my experience with TSM Dagmar |
| 08:29.10 | Corveroth | Well, barring the "unmoveable" and "garish" parts, that was the original version, actually. |
| 08:29.15 | Mr_Rabies | everytime i reinstall it i go GAH WHAT and uninstall it |
| 08:29.22 | Corveroth | Then I broke it to add more stuff. |
| 08:29.46 | Corveroth | So now, I have a no-quite-working cross-character currency tracker, which sucks, because I don't have a currency tracker. |
| 08:29.51 | Mr_Rabies | oh, i see |
| 08:30.05 | Corveroth | I'd really like to have my currency tracker back =( |
| 08:30.08 | Dagmar | There's also the approach that supposedly customizeable frameset used. "So I installed it. Where the fuck is anything?" |
| 08:30.09 | Mr_Rabies | it's a very nice design |
| 08:30.27 | Dagmar | "Wait... I have to go and turn the damn things on? In lua?" |
| 08:30.40 | Mr_Rabies | stick with your gut instinct on the design, that implementation you had before looks great |
| 08:30.56 | Corveroth | Chill Effect, you mean? That one's long dead. Mostly irrelevant now =) |
| 08:31.04 | Corveroth | But I appreciate the compliment. |
| 08:31.07 | Mr_Rabies | it's actually kind of similar to the new skill ui |
| 08:31.17 | Mr_Rabies | where the primary ones have more space dedicated than the secondary ones |
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| 08:31.42 | Corveroth | Yeah. I figure, they basically did the same thing with Skills, and the Character pane is perfectly fine as-is. |
| 08:32.02 | Corveroth | There's room to improve Mounts, still, but Pets just took off in their own direction, and others have handled that just fine. |
| 08:32.22 | Mr_Rabies | i really want more mount addons to interface with the current mount ui |
| 08:32.37 | Corveroth | Your ideas. Give them to me. |
| 08:32.48 | Mr_Rabies | for example, i use guppet for mounting because the functionality is the best i've tried |
| 08:32.57 | Mr_Rabies | but the checkboxes for what mounts you like is in its own frame |
| 08:32.59 | Shirik | I want this immediately http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bx3PYFwnnA |
| 08:33.21 | Mr_Rabies | instead of using the current frame's open space |
| 08:33.23 | Corveroth | Ack, no no no. Integrate! Integrate! (without tainting, please) |
| 08:33.35 | Mr_Rabies | i found an addon that does use the current frame's ui, but it's nowhere near as functional |
| 08:33.48 | Mr_Rabies | it doesn't work very well with flight forms, and isn't good at picking which mounts you can use |
| 08:34.13 | Corveroth | I'll check Guppet, then. The currency thing comes first though. |
| 08:35.11 | Corveroth | Hmm. You know what I'd really like? |
| 08:35.32 | Corveroth | A reference for "this frame uses these textures", exploded in a diagram. |
| 08:36.12 | Corveroth | Maybe... maybe this is something I can work out myself. |
| 08:36.26 | Corveroth | Tomorrow, though, because I need to be at work in eight hours. |
| 08:36.29 | Corveroth | Damnit. |
| 08:36.33 | Corveroth | Night folks. |
| 08:37.07 | kaelten | Cairenn: http://o7.no/TUvW3t |
| 08:37.26 | Cairenn | lol |
| 08:37.54 | kaelten | I think we all need more lols |
| 08:40.22 | Mr_Rabies | don't take medical xbox lightly, kaelten |
| 08:40.42 | kaelten | wouldn't dream of it |
| 08:40.48 | Mr_Rabies | for some people that's the only thing between life and a life spent at home all day |
| 08:45.11 | Mr_Rabies | huh, i didn't know batman: the animated series took place at dragoncon: http://i.imgur.com/HL8mN.png |
| 08:47.46 | Mr_Rabies | i....really don't remember this episode http://i.imgur.com/VVdff.png |
| 08:48.14 | Mr_Rabies | batman you get yourself stuck in the most bizarre situations |
| 08:48.44 | Dagmar | It sure as hell couldn't be The Dark Knight animated series there. |
| 08:48.54 | Dagmar | Batman would just start beating the crap out of random people. |
| 08:49.12 | Mr_Rabies | that's basically me in arkham city |
| 08:49.22 | Mr_Rabies | it's like a reverse-mugging simulator for me |
| 08:49.35 | Mr_Rabies | see random henchmen minding their own business, doing push ups |
| 08:49.45 | Mr_Rabies | dive bomb at them, suplex one into another |
| 08:49.54 | Mr_Rabies | break their guns, break their legs |
| 08:50.22 | Mr_Rabies | sometimes break their legs WITH their guns, if i'm wearing the Dark Knight Returns skin |
| 08:51.13 | Dagmar | Sounds about like the way I played Champions Online |
| 08:51.25 | Dagmar | ...except mainly i'd just stand around the corner and "phone it in" |
| 08:51.44 | Dagmar | You should never be allowed to open with the Orbital Death Ray Cannon |
| 08:51.49 | Mr_Rabies | lol |
| 08:52.02 | Mr_Rabies | i'm on a total batman kick right now |
| 08:52.14 | Mr_Rabies | i really wish animated series was available on blu-ray :| |
| 08:52.35 | Dagmar | You need high-res cartoons? |
| 08:52.41 | Mr_Rabies | i watched batman: brave and the bold and i've been in a several-month-long batman binge |
| 08:52.44 | Mr_Rabies | yes :D |
| 08:53.38 | Mr_Rabies | mpeg 2 compression is awful, even to animation (also consider the mastering was pretty lazy pre-blu-ray) |
| 08:53.44 | Mr_Rabies | also interlacing, etc |
| 08:55.24 | bluipodcow | What's the total playable for wow at at the moment ? |
| 08:55.45 | bluipodcow | 10 million ? Or 11 billion ? |
| 08:57.02 | Mr_Rabies | like, look at the difference here, Dagmar: http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison.php?id=8538 |
| 08:57.12 | Mr_Rabies | playable? like, current player base, bluipodcow? :o |
| 08:57.19 | bluipodcow | Yes |
| 08:57.35 | bluipodcow | Mostly interested in the units being used |
| 08:57.39 | Mr_Rabies | i think the last number they said was 11 mill? but i think they're starting to sink again now that MoP's been out a while |
| 08:57.47 | bluipodcow | Ie millions vs billions |
| 08:58.07 | Mr_Rabies | is that any kind of public number they've given? |
| 08:58.58 | bluipodcow | Yeah possibly in the q3 2012 investor earnings call docs |
| 08:59.26 | bluipodcow | At http://investor.activision.com |
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| 09:33.00 | mikma | rtharper: i need a name for my addon, you can use it to write notes into items (ItemNotes already exists) |
| 09:33.20 | rtharper | post-it |
| 09:33.34 | mikma | hah |
| 09:41.14 | Fisker | ItemsNote |
| 09:44.18 | mikma | if fisker would be woman, he would be pregnant alot, cause he's always late |
| 09:44.31 | Fisker | so mad |
| 09:45.05 | mikma | well don't be |
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| 10:45.35 | karl_w_w | What do noobs and rogues have in common? they both pick 'locks |
| 10:46.09 | Coote | I thought noobs and rogues were the same thing. |
| 10:46.25 | Coote | ducks. |
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| 12:51.00 | rtharper | mikma: Useless Finnish of the Day: "Ota riski, rakastu suomenruotsalaiseen." |
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| 12:58.53 | Humbedooh | ;o |
| 12:59.43 | Humbedooh | finns > fennoswedes |
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| 13:15.28 | rtharper | :D |
| 13:15.28 | rtharper | NEJ |
| 13:15.38 | rtharper | Jag håller inte med |
| 13:19.49 | Humbedooh | pfft |
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| 13:40.41 | rtharper | don't you pfft me |
| 13:40.52 | Fisker | rtharper |
| 13:40.59 | rtharper | yis? |
| 13:41.13 | Humbedooh | I pfft you, sir! |
| 13:41.19 | Humbedooh | have at ye! |
| 13:43.01 | foxlit | Coding homework time! |
| 13:43.15 | foxlit | I have a function that returns a variable number of values when it is called. |
| 13:43.44 | foxlit | I want to output two functions: one that would behave as the original function, and the other that'd allow you to peek at what the original function would return X > 0 calls in the future. |
| 13:44.19 | rtharper | O.o |
| 13:45.07 | rtharper | the latter is just the function executed x>0 more times |
| 13:45.36 | foxlit | Yes, but the trick is that I don't want peeks to affect the former. |
| 13:45.39 | Elkano | while caching the results though |
| 13:47.54 | Elkano | so your first will be like: if #q == 0 then return f() else return table.remove(q) end |
| 13:47.55 | foxlit | lua> do local x = 0 function orig() x = x + 1 return x end function peek(X) return x + X end end print(orig()) print("Peek:", peek(2), peek(3)) orig() print("Actual:", orig(), orig()) |
| 13:47.56 | lua_bot | foxlit: 1, Peek:, 3, 4, Actual:, 3, 4 |
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| 13:48.35 | foxlit | (I'm cheating on a number of counts there to illustrate semantics -- you aren't actually allowed to know the internal state, nor the number of values) |
| 13:48.45 | Elkano | and your 2nd will be like: while #q < x do table.insert(q, f()) end return q[x] |
| 13:50.23 | foxlit | table.insert/table.remove are LIFO, unfortunately; and dealing with multiple returns would be a pain |
| 13:50.34 | Zootfizzle | fizzles a little on the floor |
| 13:50.53 | Elkano | why? just use {} and unpack |
| 13:51.58 | Elkano | and regarding LIFO, just add the index; you'll need FIFO |
| 13:52.17 | Fisker | Zootfizzle |
| 13:52.32 | foxlit | creating tables on every call isn't pretty :) |
| 13:52.45 | Zootfizzle | hugs Fisker |
| 13:52.50 | Elkano | your code requires knowledge about the function |
| 13:53.22 | Elkano | (going from "x + 1" to "x + X") |
| 13:54.01 | foxlit | As I said, the example is cheating to illustrate the desired semantics. I obviously can't implement it that way :) |
| 13:54.21 | Zootfizzle | What's everyone up to? |
| 13:54.41 | Elkano | and yeah, the extra tables will be a pain for the gc though you only get them for peeking and you could recycle them |
| 13:54.51 | foxlit | I'm handwriting a parser. It's being inconvinient. |
| 13:55.20 | Elkano | LL(2)? ;) |
| 13:55.39 | Coote | sitting back, watching star trek tng, and shopping around for a good deal on a used PS3. |
| 13:56.09 | nevcairiel | considering how f'ing old the PS3 is, dont you get that thing new for rather cheap these days |
| 13:56.30 | Coote | Yes, but I'm trying to get an old one with backward compatibility. |
| 13:56.43 | foxlit | Elkano: something along the lines, though I'm not sure how many tokens I actually need. |
| 13:57.08 | Elkano | yeah, depends on your grammar |
| 13:58.08 | Coote | Trying to look for the best price I can, since most of my cash went to buying christmas gifts. Not much to spare for myself unfortunately. |
| 13:58.29 | Elkano | well, you could also peek and put the elements back in line |
| 13:59.09 | Elkano | but I doubt a recursive approach would be any better |
| 13:59.37 | Elkano | reminds me, we're getting told about our CUDA projects tomorrow... will be "fun", too... |
| 14:00.00 | foxlit | can probably do it using just two tables, but index drift is concerning :/ |
| 14:01.28 | Elkano | are you coding the parser in lua? |
| 14:01.39 | foxlit | yes |
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| 14:04.47 | Elkano | and your lexer provides a table of tokens? or token, [payload, ...], token? |
| 14:05.09 | foxlit | it's essentially an iterator function |
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| 14:05.24 | foxlit | local token, playload, ... = next() |
| 14:06.13 | Elkano | but does next() produce the data when called or is it already stored in some kind of table? |
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| 14:09.04 | foxlit | The former. It's not impossible to rewind, but I'm not sure how much I like returning internal state as part of the iterator. |
| 14:09.42 | Elkano | well, in that case, you should use caching anyways |
| 14:10.03 | Elkano | so that work done for peeking isn't lost |
| 14:10.08 | Zootfizzle | America is such a crazy place |
| 14:10.29 | Zootfizzle | Just saiyan |
| 14:10.32 | Elkano | if you're able to tell the amount of payload from the token, you don't even have to unpack |
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| 14:15.09 | Coote | Crazy doesn't even begin to describe it these days. |
| 14:15.31 | foxlit | Mm. Perhaps it's better to drop solving the general case of this thing and just hack in what I actually need, which is probably a pair of locals and a boolean. |
| 14:15.51 | Zootfizzle | Yeah Coote, I just realized what a loaded topic that was |
| 14:15.55 | Fisker | i hope you don't die Zootfizzle |
| 14:16.04 | Zootfizzle | We should probably stay away from it |
| 14:16.12 | Zootfizzle | for the sake of the channel's sanity |
| 14:16.49 | Zootfizzle | Thanks Fisker, I also hope you don't die :) |
| 14:16.50 | Coote | But nation bashing on the US is so fun, even Americans love getting in on half the action. :P |
| 14:20.05 | Zootfizzle | No point in nation bashing, might as well bash the world |
| 14:20.53 | Zootfizzle | Look! I arbitrarily created an artificial barrier! This is my country now :P |
| 14:21.16 | Zootfizzle | I thought Force Fields on Star Trek were strong |
| 14:21.21 | Zootfizzle | Borders are much stronger |
| 14:22.31 | Coote | Yeah, why not bash the entire planet? It's filled with puny pink skins who think they matter. |
| 14:23.58 | Zootfizzle | I'm just biological input for the internet AI |
| 14:24.38 | Coote | Wake up, the matrix has you. follow the white rabbit. |
| 14:25.20 | Zootfizzle | Was it the blue pill or the red pill? I can never remember |
| 14:25.42 | Coote | red |
| 14:26.22 | Coote | Red lime my shir.... oh crap, I'm going to die. :( |
| 14:26.28 | Coote | *like |
| 14:26.49 | Zootfizzle | <3 red pills |
| 14:28.24 | VIad | if I turn on taintlog 2 and open my world map my machine freezes for 2 seconds to generate a bunch of taint log paths about how some addon tainted UIDROPDOWNMENU_MENU_LEVEL by reading it :P |
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| 14:53.14 | Zootfizzle | moo |
| 14:54.03 | karl_w_w | Zootfizzle you need to take less pills |
| 14:54.12 | karl_w_w | or more, I'm not sure |
| 14:54.21 | mikma | so i need a good way of adding stuff with slashcommand, like, /postit [itemname] skull text goes here |
| 14:54.32 | Zootfizzle | Right? |
| 15:03.35 | kullervo | there used to be an addon that provided item links as you typed |
| 15:03.56 | mikma | fizzsomething made it |
| 15:04.13 | kullervo | btw this was way back in TBC, I haven't seen one since wotlk :P |
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| 15:13.04 | mikma | rtharper: http://mikma.eu/wow/WoWScrnShot_121612_171230.jpg ;) |
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| 15:21.02 | karl_w_w | Fisker I'm bored |
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| 16:46.34 | VIad | Rythal: it's a mess :D |
| 16:48.05 | karl_w_w | I just noticed my red flying cloud makes occasional whooshing sounds as you fly around |
| 16:49.16 | Gnarfoz | you're pretty late with that, then ;) |
| 16:52.31 | karl_w_w | I don't like you anymore |
| 16:53.39 | nevcairiel | imho, it should make a continous moving sound like the flying nimbus |
| 16:53.42 | nevcairiel | and be yellow |
| 16:53.49 | nevcairiel | and not have that weird plate you stand on |
| 16:54.33 | karl_w_w | u need the plat or you'd fall through! |
| 16:54.39 | karl_w_w | plate |
| 16:55.12 | nevcairiel | not if you have a pure heart |
| 16:56.01 | Rythal | it makes the sound if you bank / strafe |
| 16:56.48 | karl_w_w | the cloud should be bigger and denser |
| 16:56.51 | rtharper | nice |
| 16:56.56 | karl_w_w | then u could get rid of the plate |
| 16:57.29 | karl_w_w | plus it could occasionally go dark underneath and spit out lightning and/or rain |
| 16:57.52 | karl_w_w | then make a seperate mount that is just the plate |
| 16:58.08 | nevcairiel | oh and what does make the cloud exactly a "red" flying cloud? :) |
| 16:58.50 | Rythal | They need more mounts like the cloud... I like the tiny footprint it has so your not blocking people when questing |
| 16:59.08 | karl_w_w | yeah Rythal |
| 16:59.12 | nevcairiel | it still makes you too tall to go through doors |
| 16:59.25 | nevcairiel | but not sure if other mounts are better |
| 16:59.49 | karl_w_w | there are little red runes in the plate nevcairiel |
| 16:59.50 | Fisker | hey sexy nevcairiel |
| 17:00.02 | Rythal | after having kiri as my main weapon on 2 toons in 4.3 i'm use to being to big to go through doors >< |
| 17:00.36 | karl_w_w | in other news, what freakily-armed people was this chair designed for? http://alankarfurniture.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/DIVAN-CHAIR.jpg |
| 17:01.10 | nevcairiel | finally a chair to rest the full arm on! |
| 17:10.30 | Stanzilla | pix |
| 17:10.39 | Stanzilla | oh |
| 17:10.43 | Stanzilla | ok |
| 17:16.17 | VIad | Rythal: how did you deal with sending message in the right channel? |
| 17:18.08 | karl_w_w | i wonder what happens if you just always send to instance |
| 17:18.47 | Rythal | IsLFGModeActive(LE_LFG_CATEGORY_LFD) |
| 17:20.01 | VIad | so basically: (IsLFGModeActive(LE_LFG_CATEGORY_LFR) or IsLFGModeActive(LE_LFG_CATEGORY_LFR)) and "INSTANCE_CHAT" or (IsInRaid() and "RAID" or (IsInGroup() and "PARTY" or "SAY")) |
| 17:20.42 | VIad | LFR and LFD check btw :p typo |
| 17:21.16 | karl_w_w | !api IsLFGModeActive |
| 17:21.16 | lua_bot | Could not find a match for 'IsLFGModeActive'. |
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| 17:21.38 | Rythal | yeah.. seems to be the only way for now... you'd think they'd add a nice simple IsInLF or something |
| 17:22.12 | Rythal | karl: it's new with 5.1 probably not written about yet |
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| 17:22.37 | karl_w_w | there are other ways to check |
| 17:23.00 | karl_w_w | i know the raidachievement addon know if you're in lfr or not |
| 17:23.20 | karl_w_w | i dont know how though, the code in that thing is impossible to read :P |
| 17:23.42 | karl_w_w | does that new function return true if you're in the queue? |
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| 17:26.06 | Rythal | dunno... I haven't used it yet, the other way to check is GetInstanceInfo ... it returns difficultyindex of 7 for LFR, but that doesn't help for LFD |
| 17:26.59 | foxlit | IsInGroup(LE_PARTY_CATEGORY_INSTANCE)? |
| 17:29.03 | Rythal | didn't think IsInGroup accepted parameters |
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| 17:33.33 | Rythal | oh.. there is a simple one... IsPartyLFG |
| 17:35.02 | Trela | karl_w_w: Lean back, then put your feet up on the arms. :D |
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| 18:12.52 | karl_w_w | Trela: sounds like a recipe for spinal misalignment :P |
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| 18:32.16 | Thunder_Child | or a medical exam |
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| 19:04.16 | jnwhiteh | I need gift ideas for a 6 year old |
| 19:04.17 | Ackis | second last line of this makes me sad :( http://www.destructoid.com/mass-effect-and-more-attacked-over-school-shooting-240657.phtml |
| 19:04.37 | Dagmar | Hey that's all good news. |
| 19:04.42 | Ackis | jnwhiteh: anything that makes noise (assuming they aren't your 6 year old) |
| 19:04.54 | Dagmar | Now you know if you ever have a debilitating brain injury, you will be able to keep using the internet, even from a vegetative sstate. |
| 19:05.02 | jnwhiteh | Ackis: i'm thinking about a marble run |
| 19:05.07 | jnwhiteh | but the ones on amazon have shit reviews |
| 19:05.14 | jnwhiteh | and i read the reviews |
| 19:05.18 | jnwhiteh | one is not a problem without the other =) |
| 19:05.26 | jnwhiteh | this one seems like it *might* be neat |
| 19:05.26 | jnwhiteh | http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004PQZM3A/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&smid=AX585RFN8GJCT |
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| 19:06.09 | Ackis | I'm 31 and I'd play with a marble run :D |
| 19:06.13 | jnwhiteh | but that one? |
| 19:06.21 | jnwhiteh | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8pca4k0VVo |
| 19:06.41 | jnwhiteh | my sister said he's been asking for a nerf gun as well |
| 19:06.42 | jnwhiteh | which I support |
| 19:06.58 | Elkano | why not LEGO? |
| 19:07.05 | Fisker | how is something physical "next generation"? |
| 19:07.11 | jnwhiteh | Elkano: i'd love to |
| 19:07.18 | jnwhiteh | but there's so much out there its togh to see what to get |
| 19:07.36 | jnwhiteh | i think he's too young for the model |
| 19:07.37 | Elkano | you can even build neat marbel runs from it ;) |
| 19:07.39 | jnwhiteh | models |
| 19:08.42 | jnwhiteh | feel free to help me find something =) |
| 19:09.07 | foxlit | mindstorms for 6 year olds, np |
| 19:09.37 | jnwhiteh | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:09.38 | jnwhiteh | sadly =( |
| 19:10.00 | Fisker | man |
| 19:10.07 | Fisker | i'm so happy i can still exploit the guard ai in halfhill |
| 19:10.18 | Elkano | luckily I have the current catalogue right next to me ;) |
| 19:10.19 | Fisker | i've been so sad since they fixed the oil barrel exploit in townlong steppes :( |
| 19:10.24 | jnwhiteh | Elkano: =) |
| 19:10.41 | kd3 | using the oil barrels to kill the mobs in the fire camp? |
| 19:10.46 | kd3 | I rather enjoyed that |
| 19:10.50 | Fisker | no |
| 19:10.57 | Fisker | using the oil barrels to kill the alliance in the fire camp |
| 19:10.59 | Fisker | :) |
| 19:11.08 | Fisker | but killing the mobs were fine too until you hit exalted |
| 19:11.18 | Fisker | at which point that oil quest just was in my quest log |
| 19:11.27 | Elkano | they tend to recomend 5+ for the models, 4+ for the simpler brick sets |
| 19:11.35 | Fisker | and instead of idling in shrine of the two moons i idled there |
| 19:11.45 | jnwhiteh | Elkano: I worry about the models because he's GOING to lose pieces |
| 19:11.52 | jnwhiteh | and the following directions might be tough |
| 19:12.01 | jnwhiteh | but I don't know what those directions look like |
| 19:13.49 | Elkano | well, you can always go for something like http://shop.lego.com/en-US/LEGO-Large-Brick-Box-6166 as a start |
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| 19:14.25 | jnwhiteh | Elkano: yeah that's one I was looking at |
| 19:14.25 | jnwhiteh | epic |
| 19:14.27 | jnwhiteh | 405 pieces =0 |
| 19:14.34 | mikma | jnwhiteh: trying to find xmas present for tom? ;) |
| 19:14.38 | jnwhiteh | mikma: =) |
| 19:14.44 | Fisker | less than 10 days btw jnwhiteh |
| 19:14.49 | jnwhiteh | Fisker: until? |
| 19:15.01 | Fisker | i'm done upgrading to 28 slot bags |
| 19:15.07 | nevcairiel | a generic brick box is much better then some fixed model, much more fun to be had |
| 19:15.10 | jnwhiteh | well done |
| 19:15.14 | jnwhiteh | nevcairiel: yeah that's what I'm thinking |
| 19:15.17 | jnwhiteh | I kinda like the marble run idea |
| 19:15.21 | jnwhiteh | i might do both? |
| 19:16.23 | Elkano | there are also some themed boxes with additional bricks, e.g. for castles |
| 19:16.35 | jnwhiteh | ooh |
| 19:16.38 | jnwhiteh | such as? |
| 19:16.45 | jnwhiteh | my google-fu is not sufficient on this topic |
| 19:17.02 | nevcairiel | lol they have whole boxes full of doors and windows and stuff |
| 19:17.24 | nevcairiel | i wonder where all my lego went |
| 19:17.35 | nevcairiel | probably somewhere in my parents attic |
| 19:18.07 | mikma | liar |
| 19:18.14 | jnwhiteh | omg |
| 19:18.15 | mikma | you still play with them daily |
| 19:18.20 | nevcairiel | i wish |
| 19:18.23 | jnwhiteh | i want to buy the star wars watch |
| 19:18.26 | nevcairiel | could build so much fun stuff |
| 19:18.32 | jnwhiteh | http://shop.lego.com/en-US/LEGO-Star-Wars-Anakin-Skywalker-Minifigure-Watch-2856128 |
| 19:18.46 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 19:18.58 | jnwhiteh | not anakin of course |
| 19:19.05 | jnwhiteh | alright for a 5 year old? |
| 19:22.49 | foxlit | seems kind of boring |
| 19:23.05 | Ressy | jnwhiteh: How about the lego clock? |
| 19:23.06 | jnwhiteh | yeah |
| 19:23.13 | jnwhiteh | Ressy: hrm |
| 19:23.20 | jnwhiteh | maybe |
| 19:23.25 | jnwhiteh | foxlit: boring is okay if he wears it |
| 19:23.30 | jnwhiteh | it wouldn't be the only present |
| 19:23.45 | Ressy | http://shop.lego.com/en-US/LEGO-Star-Wars-Darth-Vader-Minifigure-Clock-2856081 |
| 19:24.04 | jnwhiteh | ooh nice :P |
| 19:24.07 | jnwhiteh | hehe |
| 19:24.27 | Ressy | My dad got my nephew (who's also 5) one for his birthday beginning of the month. |
| 19:24.38 | Elkano | how about http://shop.lego.com/en-SE/LEGO-Build-Play-Box-4630 ;) |
| 19:25.26 | jnwhiteh | hrm its $80 |
| 19:25.38 | jnwhiteh | wha does it give over http://www.amazon.com/LEGO-Ultimate-Building-Set-Pieces/dp/B000NO9GT4/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1355685930&sr=8-2&keywords=lego+build+play+box |
| 19:26.19 | Elkano | 600 more pieces |
| 19:26.40 | jnwhiteh | :P |
| 19:27.53 | Elkano | no idea about the inculded blocks though |
| 19:30.28 | jnwhiteh | okay, he only has some of the duplo blocks right now I think |
| 19:30.32 | jnwhiteh | so I may him that starter box |
| 19:31.18 | Elkano | http://www.brickset.com/detail/?set=6166-1 |
| 19:32.07 | Arrowmaster | ask the parents first if legos are ok |
| 19:32.51 | jnwhiteh | they are |
| 19:36.15 | jnwhiteh | i'm going with the 405 piece set and the luke skywalker watch =) |
| 19:36.19 | jnwhiteh | thanks for your help! |
| 19:36.24 | karl_w_w | lego is* |
| 19:39.08 | foxlit | karl_w_w: that's some half-assed pedantry right there. |
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| 19:44.38 | Arrowmaster | jnwhiteh: lego star destoryer or bust |
| 19:45.47 | Arrowmaster | super star destoryer* |
| 19:46.10 | jnwhiteh | :P |
| 19:46.50 | Arrowmaster | its only 3152 pieces |
| 19:47.07 | foxlit | Arrowmaster: lego death star? |
| 19:47.25 | Arrowmaster | foxlit: http://amzn.com/B0050R0YB8 |
| 19:48.05 | foxlit | Arrowmaster: http://shop.lego.com/en-US/Death-Star-10188 |
| 19:48.25 | Arrowmaster | terrible scale |
| 19:49.14 | foxlit | but all those exciting characters! |
| 20:03.16 | Thunder_Child | yea, terribad scale |
| 20:13.31 | kd3 | modern safety engineering is modern. this pic was posted from an ipad stored in a bag in the trunk: http://i.imgur.com/kXsKF.jpg |
| 20:16.35 | VIad | that's some mighty low resolution for a modern camera aparatus, 408x306? |
| 20:16.50 | kd3 | downscaled, I'd assume |
| 20:16.56 | kd3 | http://www.reddit.com/r/WTF/comments/14y2nq/i_walked_away_from_this_accident_with_hardly_a/ |
| 20:18.19 | xyphoid_ | stopped in traffic on the freeway waiting for an exit |
| 20:18.21 | xyphoid_ | that's terrifying |
| 20:19.14 | kd3 | hahaha... wtf, the "Galaxy SIII - I also made you a video. But you probably shouldn't watch it on the plane" ad got remade, this time with elves and mrs claus |
| 20:19.22 | Dagmar | Pretty much the reason I drive about a mile from the office and have a coffee for an hour before i go home in the evening. |
| 20:19.58 | xyphoid_ | one thing about driving in the states, people tailgate like lunatics |
| 20:22.46 | Dagmar | Wow. That's just disturbing. |
| 20:23.29 | Arrowmaster | few weeks ago i had somebody try to move into the lane i was in when i was going much much faster than them |
| 20:23.51 | Arrowmaster | they ended up halfway into my lane while i was next to them and half on the shoulder |
| 20:24.27 | Dagmar | Hell I have someone try and merge right into me at least once a month if I don't just avoid rush hour entirely |
| 20:27.26 | cogwheel | [pa;kpsu isu |
| 20:27.34 | cogwheel | erm |
| 20:27.41 | cogwheel | gg dvorak |
| 20:28.30 | Arrowmaster | nice try covering up your password by saying it was dvorak |
| 20:29.30 | Sintacks | Why does clicking on nameplates never seem to work correctly to change targets ... |
| 20:29.56 | cogwheel | actually it was lack of dvorak ... mrs cog was using my laptop yesterday :> |
| 20:29.57 | Dagmar | Because three-card monte is supposed to be hard |
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| 20:31.18 | cogwheel | jnwhiteh: re: chinese book, didn't we have this conversation a couple years ago? or do you mean 2nd ed? |
| 20:31.51 | cogwheel | 'cause i've been calling myself (in a mostly ironic tone) an internationally published auther for years :P |
| 20:32.05 | cogwheel | author* |
| 20:32.16 | cogwheel | i cna teaype gnd |
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| 21:17.57 | Shadowed | Torhal|work |
| 21:17.58 | Shadowed | ping |
| 21:26.08 | zenzelezz | so Planetside 2, after having played for some time, has hit 2,08x,xxx KB memory usage, and seemingly (understandably) starting to swap :-| |
| 21:27.02 | mikma | rtharper: mindfuck: http://imgur.com/gallery/fKDpg |
| 21:28.39 | rtharper | hahahh |
| 21:28.40 | rtharper | AMAZING |
| 21:30.54 | Humbedooh | I'd have to tilt my head 90 degrees clockwise to remember my pin on that machine :\ |
| 21:31.09 | Humbedooh | no wait, counterclockwise....so confusing |
| 21:37.31 | mikma | rtharper: bedtime story, how anonymous delivers: http://storify.com/dailydot/anonymous-vs-suicide-trolls-of-teen-victim |
| 21:39.14 | mikma | haste: http://pics.kuvaton.com/kuvei/the_power_of_the_master.gif |
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| 22:01.38 | Mr_Rabies | <zenzelezz> so Planetside 2, after having played for some time, has hit 2,08x,xxx KB memory usage, and seemingly (understandably) starting to swap :-| |
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| 22:02.17 | Mr_Rabies | my wow process is using 1,8xx,xxx right now, so that's not bad |
| 22:04.01 | mikma | fisker: http://www.break.com/video/adam-winrich-jams-on-the-harmonica-and-whips-2396658/ |
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| 22:20.03 | airtonix | hey fisker :> |
| 22:20.13 | Fisker | hey airtonix |
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| 22:53.25 | foxlit | Hm, novel. By awarding XP for every unit/building you produce/kill, hots provides an extra incentive not to 6pool every game. |
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| 23:07.01 | cbreak | and what do you get from xp? |
| 23:09.57 | A-KO | http://i.imgur.com/oJ79p.jpg |
| 23:11.58 | foxlit | hats, cbreak. It's always hats. |
| 23:26.12 | Sintacks | my druid and mage are never going to cap VP again because valor of the awhatever is restircted to server .. |
| 23:26.15 | Sintacks | blizzard is stupid |
| 23:26.30 | Ackis | lol the entire list of banned words from blizz: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1C_4VJcQb_p0UEL268zwAb0-pAjd6a5ndg4emkmMbqqI/preview?sle=true |
| 23:27.19 | Sintacks | banned from what |
| 23:28.15 | Sintacks | why the hell id depp banned |
| 23:28.23 | Sintacks | and furz |
| 23:28.35 | Corrodias | that's stilly. "twat" isn't, but "twatty" is? are you sure this is legit? |
| 23:28.41 | Corrodias | *silly |
| 23:33.45 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
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| 23:38.05 | Thunder_Child | That link crashed my client Ackis :( |
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