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| 00:07.43 | Vlad| | <3 |
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| 00:17.12 | Vlad| | tabletennis: tried ML, how was it? :P |
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| 00:26.18 | chiel | nevcairiel: yeah maybe, i just went heroics right away on my warrior since i did quests in dread wastes + townlong |
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| 00:27.06 | Vlad| | neato |
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| 00:28.10 | Vlad| | OnUpdate script |
| 00:28.11 | Vlad| | only way |
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| 00:28.32 | Vlad| | not always the optimal way either |
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| 00:28.59 | Vlad| | f:SetScript("OnUpdate", func) |
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| 00:29.08 | Vlad| | if you set it to nil you'd remove the OnUpdate script |
| 00:29.29 | Vlad| | function func(f, elapsed) end -- elapsed is ms since last time it ran |
| 00:29.53 | Vlad| | local e = 0 and in the func you can use e = e + elapsed if e > 5 then e = 0 f:SetScript("OnUpdate", nil) <code to do> end |
| 00:30.05 | Vlad| | a way to unregister the onupdate when you don't need it anymore |
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| 00:33.15 | Vlad| | http://pastebin.com/aevGpAwc |
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| 00:34.27 | Vlad| | just examples |
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| 00:35.44 | Semlar | and a tiiiiiiiny pinch of magic |
| 00:35.54 | Vlad| | and limited by the APi restrictions :P |
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| 00:37.36 | Semlar | i've been meaning to ask for a raise |
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| 00:55.19 | tabletennis | Vlad|, wow your mini loot addon is great for me |
| 00:55.27 | Vlad| | :) |
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| 00:55.31 | Vlad| | it's great for everyone! |
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| 00:55.54 | Vlad| | hehe |
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| 00:56.11 | Vlad| | I always thought the chat is too spammy |
| 00:56.13 | Vlad| | and still is really |
| 00:56.27 | Vlad| | too much information over too many lines |
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| 00:57.03 | Jammer | link to the loot addon? |
| 00:57.11 | tabletennis | http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/miniloot/files/28-1-8-4-release/ |
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| 01:00.15 | Cairenn|afk | mikma: nice |
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| 01:02.42 | foxlit | should steal GW2's loot UI, really |
| 01:04.40 | kd3 | oh, foxlit. <3 the updated spade |
| 01:04.56 | foxlit | :) |
| 01:05.03 | kd3 | does it handle ominous seeds yet? |
| 01:05.20 | Vlad| | foxlit: </3 the not updated spade |
| 01:05.30 | Vlad| | see what I did there? |
| 01:05.33 | foxlit | didn't it always? |
| 01:05.48 | kd3 | it didn't pop up for me the last time I got one |
| 01:06.07 | foxlit | as in in the seed selection? |
| 01:06.10 | kd3 | yah |
| 01:08.53 | Vlad| | do you know what "yule" is? |
| 01:09.02 | foxlit | mysterious, kd3. It really should be there. |
| 01:09.11 | kd3 | vlad: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yule |
| 01:09.31 | Vlad| | in norway we call it jul (yule) |
| 01:09.35 | Vlad| | but what is christmas then? :P |
| 01:09.47 | Vlad| | since we say jul on christmas but it's two different words and occasions :D |
| 01:10.06 | Vlad| | and if jul is now what we call christmas how the fuck can the same word mean two different holidays on the same time period? |
| 01:10.09 | kd3 | points at the /very first sentence/ in the enwiki article |
| 01:10.30 | Vlad| | that doesn't help me :P |
| 01:10.43 | foxlit | I can't actually test it since I got mine ages ago and it doesn't seem to want to drop twice |
| 01:10.44 | Vlad| | if I say yule you think "christmas" so how do I specify yule :P |
| 01:11.43 | Dagmar | Vlad: You don't. Yule is not Christmas. |
| 01:11.54 | Vlad| | but in norway we say jul = yule for christmas |
| 01:12.10 | Vlad| | so in norway it's confusing :P |
| 01:12.12 | Dagmar | Are you predominantly Christian? |
| 01:12.28 | Vlad| | me? ehm, don't know, not that I know of lol |
| 01:12.41 | Dagmar | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yule |
| 01:13.11 | Dagmar | The CHristians kind of dedided to have a competing holiday with all the eight high holy days most other religions on the planet had festivals on. |
| 01:13.22 | Dagmar | Blame them for holiday dilution. |
| 01:14.05 | Dagmar | _Christmas_ is a celbration of the birth of Christ. |
| 01:14.15 | Dagmar | Santa Claus has nothing to do with it. |
| 01:14.25 | Vlad| | what if I wanna congratulate someone for yule and I say "merry yule" in norwegian then they probably think christmas, while I mean something else :P |
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| 01:15.59 | Dagmar | Vlad: You could stop and get all pedantic about it, or you could just say it and be on your way |
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| 01:16.42 | Vlad| | I wanna make sure they know I talk of the old yule, maybe I should say "merry 300 yule" :P |
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| 01:16.53 | Vlad| | as in the year 300 |
| 01:16.55 | Dagmar | just yell "BLOOD FOR ODIN!" |
| 01:16.58 | Vlad| | :D |
| 01:17.19 | Vlad| | may thor provide us many opportunities for bloodshed in his name |
| 01:17.43 | Vlad| | isn't that like religious fanatics today say? |
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| 01:18.03 | Vlad| | maybe we aren't so evolved after all |
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| 01:26.25 | Vlad| | we use logic to explain how the universe works, but how can we explain how it all just started? mind blown |
| 01:26.42 | Vlad| | perhaps it's one thing we shall never be able to understand |
| 01:28.06 | Vlad| | we try to simplify things, i.e. the big bang theory |
| 01:28.14 | Vlad| | but it never fully can explain how stuff just exist :D |
| 01:36.21 | zenzelezz | Hawking has some good writings about time and stuff |
| 01:37.58 | Vlad| | I like him :p |
| 01:38.21 | Vlad| | but, how do you explain something logically when it's not a logical way to explain how nothing became something |
| 01:38.29 | Vlad| | and how can the universe just exist like that |
| 01:39.02 | zenzelezz | you have a too limited view of logic |
| 01:39.45 | Vlad| | glhf writing math to explain how nothing became something :p |
| 01:39.50 | Neffi | I'm throwing out a wager that if this conversation continues, either Kant or Descartes get mentioned inside of 20 min |
| 01:39.55 | Vlad| | :D |
| 01:40.04 | zenzelezz | Vlad|: "math" is only ever our best guesses =) |
| 01:40.12 | zenzelezz | but I find these theories just as fun as you do |
| 01:40.12 | Vlad| | sorry Neffi, was gonna say, scew coffee, you only need http://www.provigil.com/ ! |
| 01:40.15 | Neffi | Or somebody pulls a Schopenhaur and calls you all worthless bipeds |
| 01:40.36 | Neffi | ...worthless bipeds |
| 01:41.07 | Vlad| | how I see it, it's like imagine a 2D world, it can't comprehend a 3D world because it does not have what is required to do so |
| 01:41.15 | Vlad| | perhaps it's the same with comprehending our universe :P |
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| 01:42.40 | Neffi | Or imagine it's a 4D world and we can't comprehend it so we invent this concept called "time" |
| 01:43.19 | Neffi | On that note, has it ever been discussed that the reason time has an arrow is because the universe's expansion outward from the singularity is happening on all 4 dimensions (time included)? |
| 01:43.31 | Neffi | Maybe all the antimatter went in the opposite direction on dimension t |
| 01:44.30 | Vlad| | fyi Decartes once said |
| 01:44.35 | Vlad| | :3 |
| 01:44.41 | Neffi | i'm sure he did |
| 01:45.06 | Neffi | i like Kant more |
| 01:45.12 | Neffi | but Descartes has an awesome name |
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| 01:45.35 | Neffi | and he was cool wit maths |
| 01:46.29 | Neffi | Also Vlad|, what you said earlier is one of the key logical fallacies in many atheist-vs-theist debates |
| 01:46.42 | Vlad| | wha? |
| 01:46.42 | Neffi | " explain how nothing became something" |
| 01:46.54 | Semlar | ugh, please talk about something else |
| 01:46.55 | Neffi | there's no clear indication that nothing indeed became something |
| 01:47.08 | Vlad| | thing is both things sound weird |
| 01:47.10 | Neffi | but there is a clear indication that it's possible. see: virtual particles |
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| 01:47.15 | Vlad| | nothing > something or that there was always something |
| 01:47.34 | Vlad| | both seems rather hard to explain :P except just to go "ok I accept that" no questions asked :D |
| 01:47.39 | Vlad| | that's all I meant |
| 01:47.44 | Neffi | I remember an excerpt from a book, I believe it was Hawking, talking about the (poosibility?) that all the energy (+matter/etc) in the universe exactly equals 0 |
| 01:47.48 | Neffi | 0 can split into +1 and -1 |
| 01:47.49 | Neffi | and so on |
| 01:48.04 | Neffi | so really, it's not all that unimaginable, because obvious we ARE here |
| 01:48.26 | Semlar | is it so obvious |
| 01:48.30 | Vlad| | but you can keep digging, what created the mater that balances out into 0 and such |
| 01:48.33 | Vlad| | never ending :< |
| 01:48.36 | Neffi | well I'm here. dunno about you guys. |
| 01:48.38 | Neffi | +1 descartes |
| 01:48.48 | Semlar | i might be here |
| 01:49.10 | Neffi | if you follow on that train of thought, all you can say for sure is 0 spontaneously erupted into +1 and -1 |
| 01:49.11 | Vlad| | thus why I said that I think it's not something we can comprehend in our lifeform state :D |
| 01:49.23 | Neffi | from then, energy condenses into particles because it's not stable to exist on its own |
| 01:49.31 | Neffi | eg everything exists as quantum systems |
| 01:49.37 | Neffi | so you can't have energy without particles |
| 01:49.48 | Vlad| | quantum is like a curtain and stuff just come out of it |
| 01:49.51 | Vlad| | you never see behind :P |
| 01:49.55 | Neffi | particles clump together, different energy densities in different regions allow different particles to come about |
| 01:50.12 | Neffi | because like electron orbits, only certain configurations are stable -- thus only certain particles can exist |
| 01:50.35 | Semlar | so what |
| 01:50.40 | Vlad| | you can stop explaining the stuff we have decided are good explanations |
| 01:50.42 | Neffi | they stick together. then those clumps stick together. and you have a univers.e |
| 01:50.51 | Semlar | what if i don't a universe |
| 01:50.53 | Neffi | ok |
| 01:51.08 | Semlar | want * |
| 01:51.35 | Vlad| | I am talking more of the bare bone stuff, the lowest level of existance |
| 01:51.38 | Neffi | Semlar: Find a religion that promises life is just an illusion and spend the rest of your life meditating the universe away |
| 01:51.40 | Vlad| | and how that can exist :p |
| 01:51.53 | Neffi | the upshot is, eventually you will die in meditation and your dreams will come true -- for you at least |
| 01:52.08 | Vlad| | nuclei and protons and such are the higher end stuff, explaining those is important but not what I was trying to talk about :3 |
| 01:52.31 | Neffi | Well you're getting into the realm of the unexplainable |
| 01:52.37 | Semlar | they say nobody who commits suicide ever regrets it |
| 01:52.38 | Vlad| | exactly |
| 01:52.42 | Neffi | but if you really want to know, I would start with quantum mechanics. |
| 01:52.46 | Vlad| | and I doubt we will ever be able to explain that |
| 01:53.06 | Neffi | more questions have been answered than you might imagine. we're just not world-renowned doctors of physics |
| 01:53.29 | Vlad| | I am just saying, a 2D figure can never interpret a 3D image |
| 01:53.38 | Vlad| | no mater how hard it tries :p |
| 01:53.45 | Semlar | no questions have been answered, all knowledge is based on assumptions |
| 01:53.46 | Neffi | i disagre |
| 01:53.57 | Neffi | it's not the inherent nature of him being a 2D being that prevents it |
| 01:54.05 | Neffi | it's that his brain has only evolved to "solve" 2D problems |
| 01:54.28 | Neffi | put him in a 3D world and let evolution take course. come back millions of years later and he may flourish as a 3D-aware being |
| 01:54.47 | Neffi | with selective pressure of course |
| 01:55.12 | Vlad| | perhaps, I can't say what will happen in the future :p |
| 01:55.20 | Vlad| | but I am not sure if it works like that |
| 01:55.38 | Neffi | and i'm not sure if the thought experiment makes sense |
| 01:55.39 | Vlad| | like even if humans live for millions more years, I don't think they will just evolve to control time, if that's the 4th dimention :D |
| 01:56.03 | Neffi | if a 2D being wants to occupy 3D space, is one of his dimensions undefined? mathematically, it's totally a silly question |
| 01:56.33 | Vlad| | isn't the problem that if a 2D being is moved to a 3D space it wouldn't be itself anymore :P |
| 01:56.53 | Neffi | the problem is that by definition, it cannot just start occupying 3D space |
| 01:56.56 | Vlad| | yeah |
| 01:57.03 | Neffi | like I said, what of the 3rd dimension? it cant be undefined |
| 01:57.18 | Vlad| | I agree :) |
| 01:57.30 | Ackis | [p;'''''''''''' |
| 01:57.36 | Neffi | Hackish |
| 01:57.40 | Semlar | hackish |
| 01:57.50 | Semlar | very hackish |
| 01:57.54 | Vlad| | go away Ackis |
| 01:57.59 | Neffi | if we say hackish enough, Ackis will eventually be forced to change his nick |
| 01:58.08 | Neffi | or he'll have a free alarm clock |
| 01:58.52 | Vlad| | :D |
| 01:59.04 | Arazon | If I had a bar-like texture and I wanted to cut it directly in half while preserving the right end of the texture, what would I need my SetTexCoord functions args to be |
| 01:59.30 | Semlar | 0.5,1 |
| 01:59.40 | Vlad| | Neffi: if teleportation is possible |
| 01:59.44 | Vlad| | and FTL travel |
| 01:59.47 | Vlad| | just stick with me |
| 01:59.54 | Neffi | this ought to be good |
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| 02:00.02 | Vlad| | if I teleport myself, then when I arrive I FTL back to earth and reach back before I traveled |
| 02:00.03 | Vlad| | :D |
| 02:00.16 | Neffi | this is a problem in quantum mechanics still |
| 02:00.20 | Semlar | !api settexcoord |
| 02:00.22 | lua_bot | Texture:SetTexCoord: Sets corner coordinates for scaling or cropping the texture image (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/widgets/Texture/SetTexCoord) |
| 02:00.23 | Vlad| | :3 |
| 02:00.27 | Vlad| | just a fun thought |
| 02:00.32 | Neffi | people still want to believe entanglement allows FTL info transfer |
| 02:00.41 | Semlar | SetTexCoord(0.5,1,0,1) |
| 02:00.50 | Neffi | and there's no conclusive anything saying it's not possible.. yet |
| 02:01.05 | Vlad| | if possible wouldn't we end up in a recursion ? |
| 02:01.16 | Vlad| | would be quite weird |
| 02:01.43 | Neffi | but if you want to open up to my view of it, our whole perception of time and dimensions is off. there's a lot more going on at the quantum level. we just perceive the near endless interactions of all the particles in the universe as if they *were* oriented in a 3D+1D (x/y/z+time) grid |
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| 02:02.14 | Neffi | quantum mechanics allows all sorts of weird possibilities that suggest things like location and other states are not really defined how we think they are |
| 02:02.40 | Semlar | that's because they're just making shit up |
| 02:02.45 | Semlar | and nobody is going to question them |
| 02:02.52 | Neffi | eg it's not unimaginable for a particle to spontaneously teleport |
| 02:02.54 | Neffi | anywhere |
| 02:03.37 | Vlad| | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tachyon#Causality :D |
| 02:03.53 | Neffi | hasn't the tachyon been thoroughly discredited already? |
| 02:03.54 | Vlad| | FTL has a lot of causality issues bound to our dimension :P |
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| 02:04.06 | Arazon | Semlar: That took my image and moved it, didn't cut it off |
| 02:04.07 | Neffi | causality issues MUST solve themselves, Vlad| |
| 02:04.26 | Neffi | the future must already happen in a way that agrees with supposed paradoxes |
| 02:04.34 | Neffi | otherwise, it would have already disappeared |
| 02:04.38 | Vlad| | :P |
| 02:05.12 | Vlad| | what if I send you a message where I ask you to come to my house, so you do and you interrupt me sending the message |
| 02:05.13 | Arazon | To be precise, it cut it in half and moved it more to the left, instead of staying in place |
| 02:05.14 | Neffi | if you want something interesting to think about, maybe I can still find the article on restrocausality being observed in quantum states |
| 02:05.19 | Vlad| | not sure how that fixes itself :3 |
| 02:05.48 | Neffi | they took pairs of particles, made measurements, then decided randomly whether to entangle them or not. their states correlated PRIOR to being entalgned when (and only when) they did get entangled |
| 02:05.57 | Neffi | ie, the future affects the past |
| 02:06.16 | Semlar | arazon it's not going to change the size of the texture, just stretch the middle of the image over to the left edge of the texture |
| 02:06.30 | Semlar | if you also want to cut the image in half you'll have to set its width |
| 02:06.43 | Vlad| | you know back to the future? well I believe in something like that lol |
| 02:07.06 | Semlar | if time travel were possible we'd know about it |
| 02:07.10 | Semlar | end of story |
| 02:07.12 | Neffi | I believe what I said easlier. Time is just a dimension. The arrow of time is a consequence of expansion along that dimension due to the big bang. |
| 02:07.13 | Vlad| | I'll let you know |
| 02:07.28 | Vlad| | Semlar :P |
| 02:07.30 | Neffi | So time travel is totally plausible if you want to stray away from where the rest of the universe is going and end up in a void |
| 02:07.55 | Vlad| | I wanna experience the edge of a black hole then come back to earth after a month near it |
| 02:07.58 | Vlad| | and see what happens :3 |
| 02:08.11 | Neffi | Unless of course stuff is still spewing out of the white hole where the big bang occured, which could explain dark energy / accelerated expansion |
| 02:08.27 | Neffi | you might travel backward in time and discover a whole other universe playing catchup with ours along dimension T |
| 02:08.42 | Semlar | saying a month is pretty meaningless |
| 02:08.57 | Semlar | an earth month? |
| 02:09.09 | Semlar | how long is that next to a black hole |
| 02:09.10 | Vlad| | my time month near the hole :p |
| 02:09.13 | Neffi | As I understand it, your speed approaches c at a black hole, so time ceases. You would sit at the event horizon endlessly. |
| 02:09.27 | Vlad| | gotta be outside the horizon ofc |
| 02:09.29 | Vlad| | I don't wanna die :p |
| 02:09.36 | Neffi | i've got bad news for you |
| 02:09.40 | Vlad| | oh? |
| 02:09.41 | Semlar | there is no month there, seconds are measured based on the earth's orbit |
| 02:09.54 | Arazon | Time is a very inexact science. It's like measuring a piece of wood with a measuring tape that's constantly shifting measurements |
| 02:09.54 | Vlad| | my clock would still function |
| 02:09.58 | Neffi | try and survive that immense gravity and radiation |
| 02:10.06 | Neffi | no material on earth can |
| 02:10.10 | Vlad| | it was just theoretical lol |
| 02:10.13 | Neffi | if any material in the universe can at all |
| 02:10.26 | Neffi | well not really |
| 02:10.37 | Neffi | many quantum events are periodic, like radioactive decay |
| 02:10.58 | Neffi | you can totally measure time accurately anywhere. the problem is relativity. your second might be a true second, but might not be my second, which is also a true second. |
| 02:11.13 | Semlar | maybe we're already inside of a black hole and don't know it yet |
| 02:11.14 | Vlad| | that was my point when I said a month |
| 02:12.12 | Semlar | i've seen andromeda i know how this plays out |
| 02:12.27 | Vlad| | tell me, Semlar |
| 02:12.43 | Semlar | you start filming a candian scifi show |
| 02:12.47 | Semlar | canadian |
| 02:14.09 | Semlar | have you really not seen andromeda |
| 02:14.20 | Vlad| | no |
| 02:14.22 | Vlad| | just heard the name |
| 02:14.37 | Semlar | the plot is literally that he gets caught on the event horizon of a black hole |
| 02:14.48 | foxlit | spoiler: he gets better. |
| 02:14.48 | Semlar | and then gets out of it |
| 02:14.53 | Vlad| | :D |
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| 02:15.07 | Vlad| | it's sci-fi |
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| 02:15.18 | Vlad| | they probably buildt something that can handle the travel |
| 02:15.18 | Semlar | they were just close enough for it to basically slow down time for him |
| 02:15.46 | Semlar | it wasn't on purpose |
| 02:15.59 | tabletennis | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:16.17 | tabletennis | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:16.17 | Semlar | well |
| 02:16.58 | Neffi | and to him they would speed up, which would look weird |
| 02:16.59 | Semlar | yes, but when he was pulled out basically no time had passed from his perspective |
| 02:17.10 | Neffi | you see them moving away faster, but the black hole isn't approaching any faster |
| 02:17.19 | Neffi | actually, not, that may be wrong |
| 02:17.22 | Neffi | no* |
| 02:17.29 | Arazon | Semlar, do I set the width of the texture or the frame? It's a status bar texture. |
| 02:17.44 | Neffi | Arazon: frame:SetWidth(number) |
| 02:17.44 | Semlar | the texture |
| 02:18.10 | Neffi | If it's a status bar eg CreateFrame'StatusBar', then you set the width of the frame itself |
| 02:18.13 | Vlad| | btw, nameplate frames and using setscale is blocked when in combat |
| 02:18.17 | Vlad| | freaking beautiful :P |
| 02:18.24 | Vlad| | can't counter the scale thing from C-side |
| 02:18.26 | Semlar | he's using settexcoord |
| 02:18.31 | Semlar | it's not a status bar |
| 02:18.35 | Neffi | ah nvm |
| 02:18.49 | tabletennis | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:19.02 | Semlar | two chicks at the same time? |
| 02:19.03 | Neffi | i forget which one that is |
| 02:19.45 | tabletennis | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:20.09 | Semlar | that's not how it works |
| 02:20.10 | tabletennis | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:20.23 | tabletennis | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:20.29 | Semlar | time is relative to the observer |
| 02:20.39 | Neffi | there are 2 observers |
| 02:20.44 | Semlar | it's not like one goes hey look i'm slow now |
| 02:20.55 | tabletennis | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:21.03 | tabletennis | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:21.11 | tabletennis | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:21.11 | Semlar | relative |
| 02:21.13 | Neffi | but Semlar, time will occur at different rates for them. So when they meet up again, who is older? |
| 02:21.26 | Vlad| | depends if the twins are male or female :P |
| 02:21.34 | foxlit | (if they're checking watches, it seems like the entire twin business is redundant.) |
| 02:21.41 | Arazon | Semlar, I would like to cut it in half, preserving its right side (because it has an angle) and then keep the right side of the texture (preserved) anchored to the right side of the frame it's on top of |
| 02:21.53 | Arazon | I thought that anchoring it to the right would help but it didnt |
| 02:21.56 | tabletennis | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:22.03 | tabletennis | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:22.04 | Neffi | reminds me of a point made in the book Anathem questioning "time sheer" and whether multiple universes connected via a wormhole would function in any knowable way |
| 02:22.15 | Arazon | I tried setting the width to half that of the original width and that didn't work either |
| 02:22.24 | Arazon | Not sure how to proceed |
| 02:22.54 | Semlar | the only settexcoord example i have is in foglight and that would probably make your head explode |
| 02:23.09 | Neffi | it gets stranger if you entangle some particles and give one to each. |
| 02:23.24 | Neffi | the entangled particles share a state (an existence?) so how can time sheer between the two? |
| 02:24.06 | tabletennis | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:24.31 | Neffi | i think if the laws are different, we run into the paradox Vlad| touched on earlier |
| 02:24.38 | Neffi | a 2D being placed in a 3D space |
| 02:24.57 | Neffi | it's meaningless, because the 3rd dimension cannot be undefined, so a 2D being cannot be placed in 3D space at all |
| 02:25.21 | Neffi | if the two universes obey different mathematics, then i assume they must be on totally different planes on reality and cannot touch by definitio |
| 02:25.55 | tabletennis | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:26.13 | Neffi | it remains to be seen what really happens in a black hole |
| 02:26.20 | Neffi | my vote's for that question being meaningless too |
| 02:26.46 | Neffi | when you have infinities and undefineds, i don't think you can even ask "what's happening" because all sense of that is also undefined |
| 02:26.47 | Vlad| | ( http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/6101130212 :D ) |
| 02:26.48 | Neffi | it just is |
| 02:26.51 | tabletennis | <PROTECTED> |
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| 02:27.37 | Neffi | it was really fun. but i promised some friends i'd hang out tonight. thanks for the interesting conversation. |
| 02:28.03 | Vlad| | hehe |
| 02:29.02 | VIad | lol smart |
| 02:29.06 | VIad | vLad :P |
| 02:29.09 | VIad | I mean |
| 02:29.11 | VIad | viad |
| 02:29.17 | VIad | but captial V and I |
| 02:29.28 | VIad | glhf using TAB to autocomplete my name :D |
| 02:29.41 | VIad | looks better than the bar tough |
| 02:30.27 | tabletennis | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:30.41 | VIad | thing is VLAD is busy |
| 02:30.47 | VIad | so I used a suffix |
| 02:30.49 | tabletennis | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:30.49 | VIad | but it looks so ugly :P |
| 02:30.53 | tabletennis | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:30.56 | VIad | I don't wanna use accents either |
| 02:31.06 | VIad | but capital i and l are so similar |
| 02:31.07 | Arazon | I use accents when I name I want is taken |
| 02:31.10 | VIad | I can let this slide... |
| 02:31.24 | tabletennis | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:31.49 | Arazon | Had Arazon, Arazen, Arazin, all without accents, but some mf'er took Arazan |
| 02:31.54 | VIad | :D |
| 02:31.57 | VIad | Karazan |
| 02:32.01 | VIad | I see what you did there |
| 02:32.04 | VIad | removed K |
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| 02:32.38 | Arazon | That would be Kharazan and no, I like to collect vowels and vomit verbal spewage at people. |
| 02:32.47 | VIad | ah right :P |
| 02:32.57 | Arazon | Brb, polar bears |
| 02:33.09 | VIad | going to bed in a few moments |
| 02:34.05 | Arazon | Semlar: I had one person suggest I anchor the one side of my image aligned to the right, and then set the coords. Is that possible? |
| 02:34.29 | Semlar | arazon http://pastebin.com/urh9sJyV |
| 02:35.51 | Arazon | Snippets on how to get the leftmost texture, rightmost texture, top texture, and bottom texture? |
| 02:36.18 | Semlar | i split it up into the left, right, top and bottom halves |
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| 02:36.57 | Semlar | if that's any help |
| 02:37.37 | Semlar | it would be very easy to anchor them together and make it look like the whole image |
| 02:37.46 | VIad | anchor A to B and B to A, I dare you |
| 02:37.55 | Semlar | it won't let you |
| 02:38.05 | Semlar | it will implode |
| 02:38.14 | VIad | divide by zero |
| 02:38.51 | Semlar | i tried to set the scrollchild of a scrollframe to the frame it was anchored to once |
| 02:38.56 | Semlar | it crashed the game |
| 02:38.59 | VIad | :d |
| 02:39.40 | VIad | I know the game errors with recursion if you have a endless while loop for instance |
| 02:39.59 | VIad | but why not if there is a infinite recursion? :( |
| 02:40.02 | Semlar | well, i froze the game with a while statement.. yesterday |
| 02:40.11 | VIad | usually they say "oh you have a recursion" |
| 02:40.20 | Semlar | it wasn't recursive |
| 02:40.21 | VIad | but often it just freezes without that |
| 02:40.45 | VIad | I don't know, just wish it could catch these deadlocks more effectively |
| 02:40.59 | Semlar | get into combat |
| 02:41.00 | VIad | they tried with the new error in mop, when a script spends too much time |
| 02:41.24 | VIad | I had some situations pre 5.1 where in combat, the game would get more and more slow |
| 02:41.29 | VIad | and eventually it froze totally |
| 02:41.36 | VIad | then after a minute I was ofc dead, and it was back to normal |
| 02:44.16 | Semlar | so it all worked out? |
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| 02:47.11 | VIad | what? |
| 02:47.27 | VIad | no, my point is I wish these deadlocks had been stopped and that a lua error had popped up |
| 02:47.38 | VIad | it just hasn't occurred now, but no clue if it is fixed :P |
| 02:47.40 | VIad | it happened like 4 times in total hehe |
| 02:47.47 | Arazon | Gah this is annoying >.< |
| 02:47.48 | VIad | very rarely, but oddly enough it happened at rares |
| 02:47.56 | VIad | btw why don't youtube have a black theme? |
| 02:47.59 | VIad | white hurts eyes... |
| 02:48.11 | Arazon | It's doing exactly what I want, cutting the texture in half, but then its sliding it all the way down to the RIGHT where its NOT supposed to go >.< |
| 02:48.27 | Arazon | LEFT I mean |
| 02:48.35 | foxlit | so change its width |
| 02:48.38 | Semlar | change its anchor? |
| 02:48.38 | Arazon | its the right side of the texture sliding all the way to the left |
| 02:48.42 | Arazon | I did lol |
| 02:48.54 | Arazon | I do it once when the frame is initalized, and again when I set the coord |
| 02:49.03 | Semlar | and? |
| 02:49.21 | Arazon | anchor its right side to the right side of the background frame and it still slides down |
| 02:49.26 | Arazon | to the left |
| 02:49.28 | Arazon | grrr |
| 02:49.57 | Semlar | i don't know what to tell you |
| 02:50.10 | Arazon | Tell me itll be ok, Daddy :-( |
| 02:50.22 | Semlar | it's probably not going to be okay |
| 02:50.25 | Arazon | Fuck |
| 02:50.39 | Semlar | this could be it |
| 02:51.10 | Arazon | Motherf*&@ing sonofab@#$h |
| 02:51.26 | Semlar | more importantly, how does this look http://i.imgur.com/MsrF8.jpg |
| 02:51.56 | Semlar | son of a bitch that texture isn't on the right level |
| 02:51.57 | kd3 | cripes, I don't use it for a day and steam's got another big update |
| 02:52.00 | Arazon | lol |
| 02:56.38 | Semlar | http://i.imgur.com/Og7GT.jpg okay now the texture is where it should be |
| 02:57.20 | Semlar | perfect, right? right. |
| 02:58.43 | Semlar | actually i'm going to move it right more |
| 02:58.51 | Semlar | now it's perfect |
| 03:00.02 | nebula169 | you're in the bloody instance, why do you need a graphic or the dungeon name |
| 03:00.55 | Semlar | well it looks like this http://i.imgur.com/5QOeY.jpg when you switch to a boss |
| 03:01.12 | Semlar | except just with that boss's loot |
| 03:01.41 | Semlar | so just this http://i.imgur.com/AWr0g.jpg |
| 03:02.05 | Semlar | so you can pick which boss you want to see or an overview of the whole instance |
| 03:02.18 | nebula169 | isn't that what shift-j is for? |
| 03:02.37 | Semlar | yes |
| 03:02.40 | Semlar | yes it is |
| 03:03.22 | Semlar | but this only shows what's usable for you and automatically switches to whatever you're fighting |
| 03:06.11 | Jammer | dunno if anyone else having problem but shift-j keeps breaking for me |
| 03:06.23 | Semlar | in what way |
| 03:06.31 | Jammer | the buttons don't work at all |
| 03:06.52 | Semlar | haven't run into that but that sounds interesting |
| 03:07.06 | Semlar | could be a frame level problem |
| 03:11.05 | Jammer | Semlar: would /framestack be useful in that case? |
| 03:11.28 | Semlar | yeah you could see what level the buttons were and if something were over the |
| 03:11.30 | Semlar | m |
| 03:12.51 | Jammer | Semlar: http://jammer.fi/~jammer/framestack.jpg |
| 03:13.19 | Semlar | and you can't click that button? |
| 03:13.22 | Jammer | nope |
| 03:13.37 | Semlar | it doesn't show a highlight when you mouse over it? |
| 03:13.42 | Jammer | no |
| 03:13.48 | Jammer | does it usually even? |
| 03:13.58 | Semlar | yes |
| 03:14.16 | Semlar | it's also called EncounterJournalBossButton1 |
| 03:14.29 | Semlar | which is lower than every other frame |
| 03:14.36 | Semlar | which.. is interesting |
| 03:15.01 | Jammer | reload always fixes it but breaks usually quite fast again |
| 03:15.20 | Semlar | it could be an addon but i don't know why it would messing with their levels |
| 03:15.34 | Semlar | they also shouldn't be like.. in the hundreds |
| 03:15.45 | Semlar | the frame level for my button is 4 |
| 03:17.27 | Semlar | are you running anything that enhances the encounter journal |
| 03:17.41 | Jammer | not that I know |
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| 03:18.22 | Jammer | after /reload the button is indeed the top of the stack |
| 03:18.34 | Jammer | still 20-23 the numbers tho |
| 03:18.49 | Semlar | are you using something to move frames around |
| 03:20.00 | Jammer | not that I know :p |
| 03:22.32 | Semlar | well you'd be the perfect candidate for my addon since you basically can't use the encounter journal |
| 03:22.43 | Jammer | hehe :p |
| 03:23.42 | VIad | if you refresh youtube while playing it restarts from where you left off |
| 03:24.48 | VIad | gn guys |
| 03:25.03 | Semlar | night |
| 03:25.38 | Jammer | Semlar: I'll probably try it out, will be handy for deciding bonus rolls and stuff :p |
| 03:26.05 | Semlar | if i ever finish it |
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| 03:26.38 | Semlar | i kind of need to piece the interface together |
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| 04:38.33 | SuperPortia|roam | Semlar, where did you get the displayInfoIDs for the data source? |
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| 05:08.23 | bluspacecow | http://slinkywhippetslandoflols.tumblr.com/image/35569838069 |
| 05:12.42 | SuperPortia|roam | Is there a way to add a button defined in XML to an existing frame you only reference in code? Or is there a way to attach a frame in XML that's part of a frame in Blizzard's UI? |
| 05:15.32 | Iriel | SuperPortia|home: If the XML is a template you can CreateFrame it, or create the button in XML attached to something else, and reparent/reanchor it in lua later |
| 05:16.01 | Iriel | SuperPortia|home: with :SetParent and :ClearAllPoints/:SetPoint |
| 05:19.25 | SuperPortia|roam | How do you create frame it? By th way, it's a button |
| 05:21.40 | Iriel | local mySuperButton = CreateFrame("Button", "MyAwesomeButton", BlizzardParentFrame, "XMLButtonTemplate"); |
| 05:21.45 | Iriel | http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/CreateFrame |
| 05:34.03 | SuperPortia|roam | I imagine I can't use the name="$parentXxx" syntax for elements that aren't built as direct descendents? |
| 05:34.28 | SuperPortia|roam | What I'm hoping to add to another element... http://pastebin.com/Evk3uvpR |
| 05:34.50 | Iriel | You can't use that string, but you can of course use what that would have evaluated to. |
| 05:39.07 | SuperPortia|roam | I imagine parentKey doesn't work either |
| 05:39.14 | SuperPortia|roam | Since I need to set it using that key in code. |
| 05:39.30 | Iriel | No, but again you use the lua equivalent. |
| 05:39.38 | Iriel | SomeFrame.whatever = ... |
| 05:44.59 | karl_w_w | :GetParent() anybody? |
| 05:55.29 | Ackis | ~smackis |
| 05:55.29 | purl | ACTION smacks Ackis. |
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| 06:07.40 | Arazon | NeedMoment:ChewItOverWithTwix(candBar) |
| 06:11.12 | Arazon | http://i.chzbgr.com/completestore/2012/1/25/b15f9f4c-c796-417b-9d20-afe0c6218b20.jpg |
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| 06:24.35 | Ackis | http://i.imgur.com/4SqpN.jpg |
| 06:25.34 | bluspacecow | ~smackis |
| 06:25.34 | purl | ACTION smacks Ackis. |
| 06:26.23 | Ackis | it's a pic of a level 84 flying in pandaria! |
| 06:26.34 | Arazon | ~smackis |
| 06:26.34 | purl | ACTION smacks Ackis. |
| 06:26.48 | bluspacecow | thats a flight path ya noob |
| 06:26.57 | Ackis | no it's not you noob |
| 06:27.02 | Arazon | ~smackis |
| 06:27.03 | purl | ACTION smacks Ackis. |
| 06:27.04 | bluspacecow | yes it is nooooooooooooooooooooooooooob |
| 06:27.30 | Ackis | the gryphon is walking, not in a flying motion, and there are no gryphon flight paths in pandaland :P |
| 06:27.57 | bluspacecow | photoshop or private server then |
| 06:28.10 | Ackis | I've seen it with my own eyes on live |
| 06:28.53 | Arazon | explain it |
| 06:29.10 | Ackis | it reminds me of the campfire exploit from vanilla |
| 06:29.16 | bluspacecow | explain this : http://zhanael.tumblr.com/post/37536176998/thelilnan-lascocks-unseilie-what-the-hell |
| 06:29.58 | pompy | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/7350725411 |
| 06:30.45 | Arazon | Easy. bird centaur. been around for millions of years. |
| 06:30.53 | Arazon | brb polar bears |
| 06:32.34 | Ackis | Cairenn: I found this neat: 75 years of $20 bills: http://i.imgur.com/w2b7l.jpg |
| 06:32.46 | Cairenn | that is neat |
| 06:33.13 | SuperPortia|roam | ./framestack uses the frame name? |
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| 06:33.34 | SuperPortia|roam | <Frame name="">? |
| 06:34.04 | Neffi | So if you haven't done so yet, go and buy yourself one of those new "Blue Edition" Red Bulls. It's seriously the tastiest motherfuckin thing to have evern entered my body. |
| 06:34.14 | Neffi | blueberry flavor btw |
| 06:34.30 | bluspacecow | oh rly |
| 06:34.33 | Cairenn | Ackis: I've seen (held) all of those but the very first one |
| 06:34.56 | Ackis | I think I'm in the same boat as you Cairenn |
| 06:34.57 | Neffi | I thought it would taste ok-ish. Red Bull and blueberry sounded a little gross. But they fuckin' nailed the flavoring. It's perfect. |
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| 06:35.42 | pompy | looks like someone was drawing on the bottom one, wth is that |
| 06:42.19 | Arazon | Do they have blue edition red bulls in the states? |
| 06:42.41 | Neffi | Well I'm in NYC, so I should think so. But I can't speak to other areas. |
| 06:44.34 | Arazon | ugh |
| 06:44.44 | Arazon | not available nationwide til march 2013 god damnit |
| 06:47.30 | Neffi | =/ |
| 06:47.50 | Neffi | it's good enough that if they pulled it, I would write a lengthy petition to bring it back, complete with a heart-felt story |
| 06:50.01 | Arazon | meh |
| 06:50.18 | Arazon | reminds me, im out of redbulls, gonna run out to the store and get another. brb |
| 06:51.51 | SuperPortia|roam | So I said button:SetParent(frame), but the button isn't showing. |
| 06:52.39 | Iriel | SuperPortia|home: Is it anchored? Is it shown? |
| 06:53.11 | SuperPortia|roam | Do children of frames that are shows automatically show? |
| 06:53.39 | Neffi | not if you :Hide() them |
| 06:53.41 | Neffi | they stay hidden |
| 06:53.51 | Neffi | make sure it's anchored, shown, alpha is at 1, etc |
| 06:54.29 | SuperPortia|roam | Under button I have: <Size x="275" y="42"/> <Anchors> <Anchor point="TOPLEFT" x="0" y="0"/> </Anchors> |
| 06:57.03 | Iriel | SuperPortia|home: Bear in mind that the anchors dont change when you change parent |
| 06:57.15 | Iriel | SuperPortia|home: So make sure that those anchors are relative to the right thing |
| 06:57.27 | SuperPortia|roam | It's showing, but attached to the wrong window. |
| 07:04.14 | Semlar1 | ClearAllPoints, SetPoint |
| 07:04.55 | SuperPortia|roam | On the button? |
| 07:05.26 | Semlar1 | yes |
| 07:10.06 | SuperPortia|roam | Thanks that did it but showed another problem. |
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| 07:13.07 | SuperPortia|roam | So I'm having a problem where when I run the add-on the first time it works because I build the database on the companion_update event, but I don't get that on a /console reloadui |
| 07:15.08 | Iriel | Check if the data is there when the addon starts, if it is - initialize immediately, otherwise wait for the event |
| 07:18.24 | Semlar1 | you can watch player_login for reloads |
| 07:26.54 | SuperPortia|roam | @lriel, the problem is that I don't know if the data is there. |
| 07:27.42 | SuperPortia|roam | GetNumCompanions returns 0 if the data isn't loaded or you legitimately have 0 mounts. |
| 07:28.54 | SuperPortia|roam | Though I think I don't need to check. |
| 07:29.33 | SuperPortia|roam | Wait, nevermind, yes I do. |
| 07:29.44 | SuperPortia|roam | At least for efficiency sake. |
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| 07:35.38 | SuperPortia|roam | Does anyone know when you get COMPANION_UPDATE events? |
| 07:36.30 | SuperPortia|roam | E.g. do you ever get them for anything other than the initial load? |
| 07:37.55 | Neffi | The info should reliably be available at some point |
| 07:37.58 | Neffi | try PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD |
| 07:38.31 | SuperPortia|roam | It's reliably available after COMPANION_UPDATE. |
| 07:38.50 | SuperPortia|roam | But a /console reloadui doesn't fire an addtional COMPANION_UPDATE event. |
| 07:39.18 | Neffi | does the normal one happen after entering_world? |
| 07:39.32 | SuperPortia|roam | My concern at this point is that I get six companion update events, which means I build my data repository seven times. |
| 07:39.34 | Neffi | if it happens before, then it's safe to say it's available at that point |
| 07:40.10 | Neffi | subsequent calls should only be updating it |
| 07:40.17 | Dark_Elf | if event = player_entering_world then companion_update end lol |
| 07:40.36 | SuperPortia|roam | It's fine, but inefficient. |
| 07:40.50 | Neffi | well when new companions ar elearned, you need to update anyway |
| 07:40.55 | SuperPortia|roam | I just end up loading the data more times than I need to. |
| 07:41.04 | SuperPortia|roam | And I do. |
| 07:41.16 | SuperPortia|roam | But the COMPANION_UPDATE event fires six times on load. |
| 07:41.28 | SuperPortia|roam | And I don't know if it fires after that. |
| 07:41.38 | Neffi | what I do in those situations is: |
| 07:41.38 | SuperPortia|roam | If it doesn't then I load and then unregister the event. |
| 07:41.51 | Neffi | mod:timer_register(1, false, function() end) |
| 07:41.55 | Neffi | easy throttling |
| 07:42.02 | Neffi | well, if you've got a lib that gives you timers |
| 07:42.30 | Neffi | first call sets a timer for 1 second (non-repeating). subsequent calls fail because the timer is already registered. so my function gets run once. |
| 07:42.31 | SuperPortia|roam | At the moment I'm trying to do this Vanilla WoW |
| 07:42.40 | SuperPortia|roam | No 3rd-party dependencies. |
| 07:42.43 | Neffi | and subsequent firing of the event later in gameplay require no special logic |
| 07:43.21 | Neffi | i don't see how it's problematic though |
| 07:43.39 | Neffi | an extra .01 ms during load-time doesnt matter at all |
| 07:43.55 | Neffi | and it's probably way less than that |
| 07:44.00 | SuperPortia|roam | I'm going to be doing a lot of data processing. |
| 07:44.24 | SuperPortia|roam | Not auctioneer level, but all the mounts in the game level |
| 07:45.04 | Neffi | it's not like each calls takes a solid second to run |
| 07:45.17 | Neffi | it can run a hundred times during the load screen and you wouldnt notice a difference |
| 07:45.29 | Neffi | it might feel icky that it's doing that, but focus on getting it up and running first |
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| 07:48.32 | Semlar1 | i've worked with a lot more data a lot less efficiently |
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| 07:49.34 | Semlar1 | you can optimize later |
| 07:49.53 | Neffi | the problem with saying that is, later often never comes |
| 07:50.11 | Neffi | i like being efficient to begin with, but this is the kind of place where efficiency isn't key. a loading screen is meant for loading after all. |
| 07:50.17 | Shirik | Let me put this simply |
| 07:50.25 | Shirik | I wrote the algorithm that computes Auctioneer market pricing |
| 07:50.39 | Shirik | I can tell you how inefficient that function is |
| 07:51.00 | Shirik | I'd estimate it does about 100k arithmetic operations every time you request the price of an item |
| 07:51.28 | Shirik | it literally estimates an integral by querying a thousand points on an equation, and then does it again, and again, until the price doesn't change enough |
| 07:51.30 | Neffi | holy jesus |
| 07:51.41 | Shirik | and it still operates in 10s of milliseconds |
| 07:51.41 | Semlar1 | lol |
| 07:51.56 | Shirik | Don't preemptively optimize |
| 07:52.00 | Shirik | computers are pretty powerful |
| 07:52.19 | Neffi | can i see this code? |
| 07:52.22 | Neffi | i'm curious |
| 07:52.29 | Semlar1 | i've managed to lag the game with pattern matching |
| 07:53.19 | Semlar1 | my script used to keep track of what mobs could cast |
| 07:53.45 | Semlar1 | and what you were in combat with |
| 07:54.12 | Neffi | also Shirik's goal was obviously to draw a Mandelbrot set using Auctioneer prices |
| 07:54.28 | Neffi | "price is bounded, color the item" |
| 07:54.32 | Shirik | Neffi: http://codepad.org/QkoNBXiC |
| 07:54.45 | Semlar1 | and every combat event it would go through every single spell for what you were fighting and match a dozen patterns on their descriptions |
| 07:55.06 | Semlar1 | it was horribly inefficient |
| 07:55.09 | Shirik | there's actually a few neat gems in there |
| 07:55.13 | Shirik | like `if nLog and midpoint ~= midpoint then` |
| 07:55.51 | Semlar1 | when would it not equal itself |
| 07:56.13 | Semlar1 | >_> |
| 07:56.17 | Neffi | nice that you sometimes need to error incase an infinite loop happens |
| 07:56.23 | Shirik | lua> a = 0/0; print(a ~= a) |
| 07:56.23 | lua_bot | Shirik: true |
| 07:56.42 | Neffi | clever |
| 07:56.55 | Semlar1 | oO |
| 07:58.30 | SuperPortia|roam | Ok, I've added the button in the upper-left hand corner, but now the other buttons on the form don't work. |
| 07:58.51 | SuperPortia|roam | Ok, the buttons work, but the drag functionality doesn;'t. |
| 07:59.12 | Semlar1 | why not |
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| 07:59.37 | SuperPortia|roam | It is that its higher on the stack? |
| 07:59.46 | SuperPortia|roam | ./info gathered from framestack |
| 08:00.32 | Semlar1 | only if the button is in the way? |
| 08:01.03 | SuperPortia|roam | It shouldn't be obscuring things. It's 25x25 (presuming xml gets reloaded with /console reloadui) |
| 08:01.33 | Semlar1 | it would be in fstack |
| 08:01.37 | Neffi | yes, the whole UI gets unloaded and reloaded |
| 08:02.59 | SuperPortia|roam | It's higher in fstack, but it doesn't cover everything below it. |
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| 08:03.22 | SuperPortia|roam | MountJournalMountInfo:SetAllPoints() is what kills the rotate functionality on the sibling frame. |
| 08:06.04 | SuperPortia|roam | Adding useParentLevel to the button made it work again |
| 08:06.58 | SuperPortia|roam | Though now the button doesn't look right. |
| 08:07.05 | SuperPortia|roam | It border flattened. |
| 08:08.19 | SuperPortia|roam | Actually it's not the border, it's the graphical effect. |
| 08:10.32 | Arazon | holy mother of orange polar bears, notepad++ has wow api intellisense |
| 08:11.07 | SuperPortia|roam | What does textureSubLevel do? |
| 08:11.53 | Semlar1 | move it within its strata |
| 08:12.02 | Neffi | Arazon: wait, what? |
| 08:12.34 | Arazon | I'm using notepad++ ok, and i messed with some settings, so I turned on autocompletion just for the heck of it |
| 08:12.48 | Arazon | well now it's detecting my texture names and suggesting wow api functions |
| 08:12.48 | Semlar1 | a background texture with a sublevel of 0 is supposed to show up under one with 1 |
| 08:13.22 | Arazon | so ill type in a texture var and it will suggest the var i have declared, i auto complete it, and hit colon, it then brings up a long list of wow api functions |
| 08:13.32 | Arazon | it's AWESOME |
| 08:13.39 | Neffi | maybe functions open in other documents |
| 08:13.45 | Arazon | Doesnt detect function parameters tho |
| 08:14.19 | Arazon | I don't quite understand you Neffi |
| 08:14.42 | Neffi | it's checking the document for functions in use by your code, and suggesting them |
| 08:14.57 | Neffi | i doubt it has an autocomplete for the WoW API built in |
| 08:17.11 | Arazon | Blast, you're right. |
| 08:17.25 | Arazon | Buzzkill. |
| 08:17.35 | Neffi | it shouldnt be hard to parse Wowpedia and make an autocomplete file for NP++ |
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| 08:17.39 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+o iShirik] by ChanServ |
| 08:17.49 | Arazon | Back to soggy cheerios and warm redbull. |
| 08:18.34 | Thunder_Child | are your cheerios in redbull? |
| 08:19.42 | iShirik | That sounds epic |
| 08:20.04 | Thunder_Child | ~lart iShirik |
| 08:20.04 | purl | --purges iShirik |
| 08:20.37 | Neffi | i agree with eShirik on this one |
| 08:21.32 | iShirik | I demand to be unlarted |
| 08:22.22 | Thunder_Child | unlarts iShirik |
| 08:22.23 | *** mode/#wowuidev [-o iShirik] by iShirik |
| 08:22.47 | Thunder_Child | Let that be a warning to you |
| 08:22.55 | Neffi | lol |
| 08:23.11 | Arazon | Can you use settexture() to set a color of a texture that has already been given a texture file to model itself after? |
| 08:23.31 | Arazon | I just tried and it just colored in a block of color, instead of coloring a nicely photoshopped image a certain color |
| 08:23.53 | SuperPortia|roam | I'm getting a weird error where you can click on a mount and rotate it, but after awhile you lose the ability. |
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| 08:24.32 | Neffi | Arazon: :SetVertexColor(r,g,b) |
| 08:24.38 | Neffi | in range 0.0-1.0 |
| 08:25.33 | Arazon | thanks neff |
| 08:25.41 | Arazon | and yeah when i typed in vertex color, no intellisense |
| 08:26.11 | Neffi | god mining sucks now with CRZ |
| 08:29.23 | Stanzilla | anything farming sucks with CRZ |
| 08:30.18 | Semlar1 | i think we can all agree that everything sucks |
| 08:30.38 | Neffi | only 90% of everything |
| 08:30.57 | Semlar1 | what's the other 10% |
| 08:31.12 | Semlar1 | ice cream? |
| 08:31.22 | Neffi | ask Sturgeon |
| 08:31.31 | Semlar1 | fish? |
| 08:31.55 | Neffi | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sturgeon's_Law |
| 08:34.48 | Arazon | Wanna know what sucks? |
| 08:34.56 | Arazon | Vacuums. |
| 08:35.50 | Neffi | inb4 black holes |
| 08:36.04 | Semlar1 | inb4 your mother |
| 08:36.34 | Arazon | Out of curiosity how does one go about shearing off a certain percentage of a texture using SetTexCoord? I have used texture:SetTexCoord(-0.5, 1, 0, 1) but it scaled my image. It was almost perfect, until I saw the point was outof line towards the end |
| 08:36.54 | Semlar1 | uh |
| 08:36.58 | Neffi | -.5? |
| 08:37.39 | Semlar1 | it's valid but it would make the texture bigger |
| 08:38.07 | Semlar1 | it either stretches or repeats |
| 08:38.08 | Arazon | I'm using a background texture and a foreground texture to mirror a players health unit frame. It will instead fill from right to left. To do so, I will shear off a certain percentage of the left side of the foreground texture. |
| 08:38.46 | Semlar1 | use 2 textures |
| 08:39.05 | Arazon | I am. |
| 08:39.17 | Arazon | theyr both anchored in a single frame though |
| 08:39.36 | Arazon | the stat texture is anchored to the background texture, background anchored to UIparent |
| 08:41.46 | Semlar1 | anchor to the right side, settexcoord 0,%,0,1 and setwidth % * bar width |
| 08:41.56 | Arazon | http://imgur.com/wHUqx |
| 08:43.30 | Semlar1 | % being health percentage |
| 08:43.50 | Semlar1 | as a value from 0-1 |
| 08:44.12 | Arazon | no im sorry that doesn't preserve the right side, just makes it square, almost though |
| 08:44.31 | Arazon | it performs the action I want, just doesn't preserve the angle i have on the right side |
| 08:44.44 | Semlar1 | oh the othar bar |
| 08:44.59 | Arazon | yep the one on the right side, it's the target frame |
| 08:45.00 | Semlar1 | then do %,1,0,1 |
| 08:45.08 | Arazon | the one on the left is fully implemented, as a health frame |
| 08:45.11 | Arazon | ?m |
| 08:45.18 | Arazon | sorry meant /m in wow |
| 08:45.49 | Neffi | oh god |
| 08:45.53 | Arazon | Hah! Perfect |
| 08:45.55 | Neffi | converting motes into spirits unmounts you |
| 08:45.59 | Neffi | remember this people. |
| 08:46.09 | Arazon | rofl |
| 08:46.18 | Arazon | I found that out on my main flying at max height |
| 08:46.26 | Neffi | lol |
| 08:46.32 | Neffi | luckily i survived.. barely |
| 08:46.39 | Arazon | good thing about that is it give me enough time to hit my disengage macro, which is tied to my cape slot, which usually has either a parachute or glider |
| 08:46.58 | Semlar1 | bird form? |
| 08:47.19 | Neffi | i am a druid, but i wasnt paying attention |
| 08:47.28 | Neffi | i was JUST low enough to survive it with glyph of grace |
| 08:47.31 | Semlar1 | that makes it better |
| 08:47.44 | Arazon | The one class with the only natural (non preofession) escape from falling deaths and you forget what it is |
| 08:47.53 | Arazon | Way to go |
| 08:47.57 | Neffi | we have two escapes |
| 08:48.07 | Neffi | travel form -> Wild Charge |
| 08:48.07 | Arazon | lulz |
| 08:48.10 | Semlar1 | i probably would have hit cat first |
| 08:48.11 | Neffi | most people dont know that one though |
| 08:48.24 | Neffi | if you wild charge like 20 yards from the ground, you levitate down |
| 08:48.29 | Neffi | but any higher and you die |
| 08:48.45 | mikma | http://viewrz.com/en/event/526/24297/ |
| 08:49.31 | Neffi | oh maybe they fixed that in 5.1 |
| 08:50.34 | Arazon | mikma you are all kinds of messed up |
| 08:50.46 | Neffi | nope, travel->wild charge still works |
| 08:51.34 | Semlar1 | travel form should fly |
| 08:51.43 | Semlar1 | like a reindeer |
| 08:51.58 | Semlar1 | or a reincat |
| 09:01.49 | mikma | arazon: why, thank you :) |
| 09:02.09 | Arazon | Lol no problem, enjoyed the vid though |
| 09:02.12 | mikma | arazon: http://mikma.eu/louhinta/2011-08-17%2010.36.52.jpg |
| 09:03.02 | Arazon | Yeah... |
| 09:16.56 | Adys | Ok what |
| 09:17.00 | Adys | someone help me out there: http://smartphones.techcrunch.com/compare/245-329/Samsung-Galaxy-S3-vs-HTC-EVO-4G-LTE |
| 09:17.23 | Adys | why does this say the HTC 4g lte has an usb *and* microusb interface? |
| 09:19.32 | Arazon | For an extra 200 bucks it better have a usb interface. |
| 09:20.04 | Fisker | haste |
| 09:20.05 | Adys | what does that mean? does it have an actual USB2 plug? |
| 09:20.06 | Fisker | is it brrr? |
| 09:20.11 | Adys | how the fuck do you fit that on a phone? |
| 09:20.48 | Fisker | probably means it has usb otg |
| 09:21.00 | Adys | how so? |
| 09:24.40 | Arazon | Hey Neffi, Semlarl: http://imgur.com/D6EJg is my image taken after writing a quick script that sets the texcoord to be 0.3, 1, 0, 1, and sets the width of the graphic to be 0.3*texture:GetWidth(). Again, it's the frame on the right. The fact that the angle is being squashed is slightly annoying- what's happening to the texture in the settexcoord and setwidth functions? I thought they would... |
| 09:24.42 | Arazon | ...shear off and preserve the specs of the texture |
| 09:29.29 | Semlar1 | what's the size of the actual texture |
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| 09:32.16 | Semlar1 | well, either way it shouldn't be doing that |
| 09:33.08 | Semlar1 | try 1-% instead |
| 09:33.30 | Semlar1 | so 0.7 not 0.3 in settexcoord |
| 09:33.59 | Arazon | lol runs right off the frame, goes completely white |
| 09:34.34 | Arazon | nvm |
| 09:34.48 | Arazon | it pulls the right end in, and shrinks the left side in |
| 09:35.53 | Arazon | http://imgur.com/8KJch |
| 09:37.16 | Arazon | ah hah got it |
| 09:37.23 | Arazon | 1-% in the setwidth |
| 09:37.27 | Arazon | not settextcoord |
| 09:37.49 | Semlar | close enough |
| 09:38.19 | Arazon | thanks for your help! Would never have gotten it without ya |
| 09:39.59 | Semlar | despite my help |
| 09:45.34 | Semlar | yeah i mean if you can't figure something out just keep throwing numbers at it and see what happens |
| 09:48.15 | Semlar | although that could be why my map looked like this http://i.imgur.com/r4aee.jpg |
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| 09:59.20 | Fisker | because full-sized usb is silly as fuck Adys ? |
| 09:59.31 | Adys | i dont get it fisker |
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| 10:10.32 | karl_w_w | the htc costs more and is a lesser product |
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| 10:15.51 | Fisker | nexus 4 is best though karl_w_w |
| 10:16.34 | karl_w_w | probably Fisker |
| 10:16.59 | karl_w_w | the optimus L9 looks sexy |
| 10:17.23 | Fisker | no |
| 10:18.02 | karl_w_w | yes |
| 10:18.18 | neutronimity | maybe |
| 10:18.22 | karl_w_w | plus it kinda sounds like optimus prime |
| 10:18.31 | karl_w_w | and how could that ever be a bad thing |
| 10:18.42 | zenzelezz | I don't really care about which looks what, I just want a new model with a hardware keyboard, like my old Desire Z |
| 10:18.44 | neutronimity | It sounds like Optimus on Lucid Nine |
| 10:19.07 | karl_w_w | you're in a very small minority there zenzelezz |
| 10:19.15 | Fisker | buy a keyboard for it then zenzelezz |
| 10:19.20 | zenzelezz | karl_w_w: I'm sadly well aware of it :-/ |
| 10:20.15 | Fisker | oh god it's snowing here |
| 10:20.24 | karl_w_w | i wish it was snowing here |
| 10:20.58 | karl_w_w | but it's 29 C, so I'd be a bit worried if it was |
| 10:21.26 | nevcairiel | we have snow all over the place |
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| 10:21.35 | nevcairiel | and the sky keeps on giving |
| 10:21.48 | Humbedooh | likewise, yay for blizzards |
| 10:22.41 | karl_w_w | ° alt 0176' |
| 10:22.46 | karl_w_w | remember that Fisker |
| 10:23.59 | karl_w_w | i remember the invisible character and , but never useful things like ° |
| 10:26.06 | karl_w_w | oh cool, Ted is out on, you know, "DVD" |
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| 10:26.43 | neutronimity | Are LFR item drops spec- or role-dependent? |
| 10:27.03 | karl_w_w | role |
| 10:27.28 | neutronimity | Ugh |
| 10:27.31 | neutronimity | Thanks |
| 10:27.44 | Neffi | oh god NZBMatrix is dead |
| 10:28.26 | nevcairiel | ew, what page do i use now? |
| 10:28.47 | Kalroth | haaaa |
| 10:28.48 | Neffi | that's what i want to know |
| 10:28.56 | Neffi | this really sucks. nzbm was awesome |
| 10:29.14 | Neffi | OH GOD NEWZBIN TOO |
| 10:29.17 | Neffi | wtf man |
| 10:29.19 | karl_w_w | usenet is so oldschool |
| 10:29.42 | Kalroth | it was becoming mainstream though, but not anymore |
| 10:29.45 | Humbedooh | there's nzbindex.com still |
| 10:29.49 | karl_w_w | you can't beat yify man! |
| 10:29.56 | Kalroth | mpaa is coming |
| 10:29.59 | Humbedooh | and nzbsrus and some more |
| 10:30.12 | Neffi | i still got a couple hundred gigs download on atraweb |
| 10:30.18 | Neffi | i need to use it before it all falls apart |
| 10:30.29 | Humbedooh | then there's the newsgroup providers who have their own proprietary search engines |
| 10:30.33 | nevcairiel | nzbindex is just a generic search engine, not a pretty index site |
| 10:30.44 | Humbedooh | true |
| 10:30.44 | Fisker | why do you pirate? |
| 10:30.53 | Kalroth | nevcairiel: sure but you get a nice list with decent search terms |
| 10:30.53 | Humbedooh | Fisker: who says we pirate? |
| 10:31.07 | Fisker | i do |
| 10:31.08 | Neffi | Because I'm not financially stable and don't represent a paying consumer nayway |
| 10:31.19 | Kalroth | like http://www.nzbindex.nl/search/?q=%23a.b.hdtv+1080p+-foreign&age=30&max=25&minage=&sort=agedesc&minsize=999&maxsize=&dq=&poster=&nfo=&hidespam=0&hidespam=1&more=1 |
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| 10:32.31 | karl_w_w | umad Fiskerdin? |
| 10:32.58 | Kalroth | fisker pirates android phones |
| 10:33.35 | Fisker | nomad |
| 10:33.53 | Kalroth | nom nom nomad |
| 10:34.23 | karl_w_w | piracy is how Fisker gets all his doubloons |
| 10:36.03 | Neffi | time for a custom seedbox i guess |
| 10:36.16 | Neffi | i always hated keeping up ratios |
| 10:36.24 | Kalroth | why, its effortless |
| 10:36.40 | Fisker | well your mom probably hated you too |
| 10:36.56 | Neffi | wtf is that supposed to mean? |
| 10:38.13 | Kalroth | i think your mom hates both fisker and you, but im not sure |
| 10:43.59 | Cairenn | Guys, stop picking on moms. |
| 10:44.21 | karl_w_w | yeah, dads are a much better target |
| 10:44.47 | karl_w_w | plus everybody spells dad correctly |
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| 11:29.33 | Adys | jnwhiteh: do you have any idea where I should go for unlocked and if possible 2nd hand S3 LTEs? |
| 11:30.53 | Fisker | :( |
| 11:30.54 | Fisker | nexus 4 |
| 11:31.13 | Adys | Fisker: I want 4g connectivity with it |
| 11:31.22 | Adys | not even sort of planning to get another within at least 4 years |
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| 11:32.09 | Fisker | maybe if you're lucky you'll have 3G LTE when you get a new one in 4 years then |
| 11:32.40 | Adys | either way the S3 LTE meets my specs |
| 11:34.10 | Fisker | anyway i doubt you'll get any decent 2nd hand one anytime soon |
| 11:34.12 | Fisker | it just came out |
| 11:34.18 | Adys | yea figured |
| 11:34.22 | Adys | not a big req |
| 11:56.25 | haste | I'm out of coffee and this is your fault Fisker |
| 11:56.39 | Fisker | do you have some excess brrr in stock? |
| 11:56.56 | haste | we only have brrr these days |
| 12:18.07 | Stanzilla | Adys: could wait for the nexus 4 with lte |
| 12:18.09 | Stanzilla | and 32gb |
| 12:32.32 | haste | I amongst those how don't understand how you can need 32GB on a phone |
| 12:32.48 | haste | I have a 8G in my desire and I barely use any of it |
| 12:36.32 | zenzelezz | haste: I generally agree, but coworker just had to help the boss's daughter transfer her stuff from one phone to another... she had a chock-full 16 GB |
| 12:36.55 | Humbedooh | youngsters.. |
| 12:38.39 | haste | zenzelezz: fun thing, we've had a couple of those at work |
| 12:38.45 | haste | so we bought 32G iPads for them |
| 12:38.51 | haste | but after sync they only used like 10G |
| 12:39.44 | zenzelezz | heh |
| 12:39.53 | zenzelezz | fragmentation or something? |
| 12:40.03 | haste | maybe they just fill up with cache? |
| 12:40.22 | haste | something fills them up at least |
| 12:40.31 | haste | just resetting and syncing again seems to free up space |
| 12:40.39 | nevcairiel | i'm not sure if 8gb would be enough for me, i usually carry at least a bit of music around with me |
| 12:40.56 | haste | I have maybe 1-4 albums synced on my phone |
| 12:41.01 | haste | the rest I just stream |
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| 13:04.51 | Fisker | hey haste |
| 13:05.58 | Fisker | i could prank call you bluipodcow |
| 13:06.13 | bluipodcow | Lol |
| 13:06.13 | Fisker | how would you like that? |
| 13:06.17 | karl_w_w | do it! |
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| 13:21.41 | haste | hey Fisker |
| 13:33.26 | Fisker | got your nexus 4 yet haste ? |
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| 13:37.49 | haste | nop |
| 13:39.21 | Vlad| | :) |
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| 13:41.37 | VIad | :) |
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| 14:17.09 | karl_w_w | hooyeah |
| 14:17.16 | karl_w_w | just caught a minfernal |
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| 15:41.28 | Adys | Stanzilla: Im not a fan of LG |
| 15:41.31 | Adys | http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/New-Samsung-Galaxy-S3-S-III-GT-I9305-i9305-Jelly-Bean-4-1-2GB-Ram-4G-LTE-/400360048347 |
| 15:41.50 | Adys | cookies if anyone can find an equal or better deal for UK on 16 or 32GB |
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| 16:17.25 | haste | the problem with LG has generally been software |
| 16:17.32 | haste | at least in my experience |
| 16:17.38 | SuperPortia|roam | Morning |
| 16:18.48 | SuperPortia|roam | So I've got a button on top of a PlayerFrame and for some models the frame loses its ability to rotate via the mouse after that point. |
| 16:22.01 | karl_w_w | chilling tale bretheren |
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| 16:36.09 | Fisker | i want to sleep haste |
| 16:39.14 | Humbedooh | you forgot a 'with' there |
| 16:40.29 | Arazon | http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/31571380.jpg |
| 16:47.27 | Arazon | Could someone tell me why http://imgur.com/xsiVu is doing what it is? I am creating a unit frame, and using textures to have it fill from right to left. However, when I input a possible percentage value of 0.9, it instead extends, or doesn't change. |
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| 16:49.56 | zenzelezz | I have no idea what the second line is supposed to do |
| 16:50.22 | zenzelezz | you're setting the width to 0.9, and then you try to multiple *something* with a frame? |
| 16:51.09 | zenzelezz | nevermind, I'm being dense... but I still am confused \o/ |
| 16:51.44 | zenzelezz | I assume your texture has a very visible effect, so you would see for sure when it's showign? |
| 16:51.46 | zenzelezz | *showing |
| 16:51.50 | Arazon | No, I am multiplying 0.9 by the width of the texture |
| 16:51.56 | Fisker | hey haste |
| 16:52.06 | Fisker | waiting for that "Why are you not in school kiddo"-comment in wow? |
| 16:52.17 | Arazon | and yes, it would shear off 10% of the texture from the left portion of the texture, exposing the white background |
| 16:52.46 | zenzelezz | strictly speaking, unless "Target_Frame" is a texture and not a frame, you're not multiplying by the texture's width, but I'm guessing the texture is the same width as the frame |
| 16:53.06 | Arazon | it is, I could instead use a constant 250 |
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| 16:53.21 | Arazon | the only thing that has a greater width is the background, which has a width of 257 |
| 16:53.38 | zenzelezz | and if you just SetWidth(100) then it shows correctly? |
| 16:54.21 | Arazon | well if you mean at 100%, then I multiply 1*250 ( the original width) and yes it does display correctly |
| 16:55.18 | Maldivia | Arazon: what's the Scale on the frames? |
| 16:55.38 | Arazon | I don't believe I scaled them |
| 16:56.17 | zenzelezz | no, I mean "100" as in 100 units |
| 16:56.19 | Maldivia | check GetScale / GetEffectiveScale, if they don't match then that would explain why the width doesn't really work as expected |
| 16:56.41 | bluipodcow | Oh hi Maldivia |
| 16:57.21 | Maldivia | hey :) |
| 16:58.01 | Maldivia | bluipodcow: what's up |
| 16:58.31 | Fisker | close enough haste |
| 16:58.37 | bluipodcow | Finishing up some work that I'm not going to be able to finish |
| 16:58.47 | Fisker | [17:56:53][W:From] [Asdasdasdh]: still cant win a 1on1 then i see |
| 16:58.47 | Fisker | [17:57:02][W:To] [Asdasdasdh]: why are you upset over pvp? |
| 16:58.49 | Fisker | awww |
| 16:59.01 | Maldivia | bluipodcow: well, isn't that always the case, more or less :P |
| 16:59.08 | bluipodcow | As it needs the input of someone else and a database unlocked |
| 16:59.18 | SuperPortia|roam | I was wondering if someone could help me with this: I've got FrameXML code (http://pastebin.com/G75Z6Jc0) that declares a button, and when I add the button to the frame containing the mount journal's PlayerFrame some of the models break the mouse drag to rotate functionality. I'm adding the button to the parent like so: http://pastebin.com/3tAFtvtp |
| 16:59.19 | Arazon | I find that I'm getting the look I want if I just take the width down to it's correct percentag,e and then subtract 15....how random is that |
| 16:59.31 | bluipodcow | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:59.48 | bluipodcow | Zomg wall of text |
| 17:00.06 | Maldivia | Arazon: could be that the 15 is the width of the border ? |
| 17:00.31 | Maldivia | bluipodcow: what kind of input? |
| 17:01.06 | bluipodcow | Clarification mostly |
| 17:01.18 | Arazon | no, the background is a texture whose width is 257, rather than the stat texture, which is 250 |
| 17:02.06 | bluipodcow | Also the new database entry system our test logins been locked out of the system |
| 17:02.13 | bluipodcow | :( |
| 17:02.20 | Maldivia | fun fun |
| 17:04.48 | Arazon | Scale and effective scale are the same |
| 17:08.34 | Arazon | Grr this is so annoying |
| 17:08.36 | Arazon | so close |
| 17:09.24 | SuperPortia|roam | Anyone know why a PlayerFrame showing mounts would break functionality when you load certain mount models if there's a button in front of the frame? |
| 17:10.40 | Maldivia | sounds weird |
| 17:11.25 | Maldivia | ofcourse the hit rect for the button might be interfering with your ability to interact with the playerframe, other than that |
| 17:11.57 | SuperPortia|roam | Is there a way to prevent that? |
| 17:12.19 | Maldivia | if you want to button to be clickable, then no |
| 17:12.37 | Maldivia | make a smaller button / limit the hit rect of the button |
| 17:13.00 | SuperPortia|roam | Is that based on the size of the button? |
| 17:13.44 | Maldivia | usually, the hit rect follows the size of the button, but you can make it larger/smaller if you like |
| 17:14.00 | SuperPortia|roam | Are sizes in pixels? |
| 17:14.16 | Maldivia | no |
| 17:14.43 | SuperPortia|roam | So is 38x38 large? |
| 17:15.11 | Maldivia | no |
| 17:16.25 | Fisker | man haste |
| 17:17.11 | SuperPortia|roam | So obscuring any of the hitbox of the underlying object obscures all of it? |
| 17:17.42 | Maldivia | it shouldn't, should only obscure the overlapping region |
| 17:18.15 | SuperPortia|roam | Button in question: http://pastebin.com/G75Z6Jc0 |
| 17:19.22 | Maldivia | that should be a small button on the upper left corner |
| 17:20.11 | Maldivia | but been a long time since I've played around with the XML |
| 17:20.50 | foxlit | that paste looks rather abridged. |
| 17:22.02 | SuperPortia|roam | It shows up as a small button in the upper-left hand corner. |
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| 17:22.25 | SuperPortia|roam | But on larger models it breaks mouse drag rotate. |
| 17:22.44 | SuperPortia|roam | I'm wondering if it's a but in WoW's PlayerFrame code or simply a known limitation. |
| 17:24.51 | Maldivia | hmm, relativeKey on anchors? does that actually exist? |
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| 17:25.21 | Maldivia | I know there's parentKey to add the frame to the parent table |
| 17:25.32 | nevcairiel | first time i hear of it |
| 17:25.37 | foxlit | 5.0 |
| 17:25.43 | nevcairiel | interesting |
| 17:25.52 | nevcairiel | well i never use xml |
| 17:25.57 | Maldivia | same here :) |
| 17:26.09 | Maldivia | haven't used it since CreateFrame was introduced :P |
| 17:27.21 | Arazon | createframe has been around since vanilla? |
| 17:28.00 | Maldivia | 1.10 I think |
| 17:28.17 | Maldivia | so yeah, since late-vanilla |
| 17:30.20 | SuperPortia|roam | Can you set level="number" on a button? |
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| 17:30.38 | karl_w_w | that torrent karma |
| 17:33.28 | bluipodcow | 1.x is vanilla ? |
| 17:33.58 | SuperPortia|roam | Yes |
| 17:34.04 | SuperPortia|roam | aka Pre-BC |
| 17:35.22 | bluipodcow | Wow |
| 17:35.33 | bluipodcow | I been around since vanilla |
| 17:35.49 | bluipodcow | Silly Bly thought vanilla = beta |
| 17:36.01 | Stanzilla | ustoopid? |
| 17:36.07 | SuperPortia|roam | Even having a 0x0 button that doesn't have any content is breaking the PlayerFrame for large models. |
| 17:36.10 | bluipodcow | Ya rly |
| 17:36.46 | SuperPortia|roam | At what point do you ask Blizzard about stuff like this? |
| 17:36.59 | SuperPortia|roam | Or do they just ignore the community completely? |
| 17:37.03 | bluipodcow | Which stuff |
| 17:37.13 | Stanzilla | at a point where not getting an answer does not matter to you |
| 17:37.58 | nevcairiel | bluipodcow: how did you call the time before BC until now? :P |
| 17:38.11 | bluipodcow | Shrug |
| 17:38.35 | Stanzilla | coconut |
| 17:38.36 | SuperPortia|roam | If I put a button (even with no content) on frame that contains a PlayerFrame object. When the PlayerFrame object loads large models it breaks the drag to scroll functionality. |
| 17:38.47 | SuperPortia|roam | 'since 200x insert your year. |
| 17:39.41 | zenzelezz | it really annoys me that Planetside 2's physics does not make you move with moving objects; such as trying to stand on top of a tank is no good - once it moves, you just stay where you were in the world (falling down to the ground once the tank's gone) |
| 17:39.45 | zenzelezz | no joyriding |
| 17:39.57 | nevcairiel | bad physics are bad? |
| 17:40.04 | zenzelezz | pretty much |
| 17:40.41 | zenzelezz | I realise it's not meant to be a realistic game, but I'd have expected at least such basic physics; few games miss that these days |
| 17:43.24 | nevcairiel | unless the game is meant to have surreal physics, having some degree of working physics is not really what makes a game realistic :p |
| 17:43.40 | zenzelezz | "Broadcast from SYSTEM: Anyone with the 'Operative' title is a Game Master (GM). You're wasting your ammo." |
| 17:45.34 | SuperPortia|roam | Ok I think I fixed it. |
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| 18:28.01 | progdog | Warning: sprocket overflow detected |
| 18:29.06 | Semlar | JETSON!!!! |
| 18:29.30 | Humbedooh | spaceley's sprockets? ;o |
| 18:29.43 | Humbedooh | spacely even |
| 18:29.49 | Semlar | probably some competitor |
| 18:29.58 | Humbedooh | ye, it better be |
| 18:30.28 | Semlar | cheap knockoff sprockets |
| 18:32.21 | Humbedooh | I bet it's those пространственноподобных sprockets |
| 18:32.40 | Adys | Fisker: http://i.imgur.com/QubpD.png |
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| 18:38.15 | progdog | Definitely not cheap knockoff sprockets |
| 18:38.21 | progdog | Those are called cogs |
| 18:43.06 | Arazon | Hey sorry, random question: I have two textures in a frame, one is background, the other is a status texture. Trying to imitate a status bar filling from right to left, instead of the normal from left to right. I'm using SetTexCoords to reform the status texture to be a percentage of what it used to be, but it doesn't look proportional to the amount sheared off, and when it reverts back to... |
| 18:43.08 | Arazon | ...full 100%, it's actually a third longer than it used to be, but doesn't show. Any ideas? |
| 18:43.54 | progdog | Can you pastebin your code? |
| 18:43.57 | karl_w_w | you owned him good Adys |
| 18:44.10 | karl_w_w | also +1 SUV syndrome |
| 18:44.48 | progdog | …guess he can't :O |
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| 18:45.03 | Humbedooh | progdog: must be the sprocket overflow preventing it |
| 18:45.13 | Arazon | I implemented the health frame as a normal status bar, but the target, I want it to mirror the health frame, and it does...with a glitch |
| 18:45.19 | progdog | Damn, another sprocket overflow? I could have sworn I fixed that... |
| 18:45.27 | progdog | gets back to work |
| 18:45.44 | Humbedooh | pats progdog, who's clearly a gnome |
| 18:46.15 | progdog | launches a sprocket attack at cogwheel in his spare time |
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| 18:47.03 | progdog | Arazon: Can you pastebin the code that updates the texture? |
| 18:47.17 | Arazon | its eventhandler |
| 18:49.21 | progdog | You're handling UNIT_HEALTH for 'target'? |
| 18:49.54 | Semlar | what's the glitch |
| 18:50.31 | progdog | SetTexCoords isn't behaving as he expects |
| 18:50.53 | Arazon | yes |
| 18:51.14 | Semlar | you should probably try and understand what settexcoord is doing |
| 18:51.37 | progdog | Can you paste your code at pastebin.com so I can see what you're trying to do? |
| 18:52.13 | __Jamash | adys: your opinion is wrong |
| 18:52.43 | Arazon | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/7350635455 |
| 18:53.29 | Adys | __Jamash: your opinion about my opinion is wrong, in my opinion. |
| 18:53.34 | Adys | however, since my opinion is wrong |
| 18:53.37 | Adys | what does that make you? |
| 18:53.43 | __Jamash | right |
| 18:53.44 | Arazon | http://imgur.com/xsiVu |
| 18:53.59 | Arazon | That's the image im getting that's implying theres a glitch somewhere |
| 18:54.03 | Adys | WRONG |
| 18:54.15 | __Jamash | I don't understand the question, Arazon |
| 18:54.31 | Semlar | what's 10/250 |
| 18:54.33 | Arazon | Look at the image |
| 18:55.07 | Arazon | 10/250 is me trying to shift the arrow to match stat_texture |
| 18:55.23 | Arazon | it can be 0, just makes it worse |
| 18:55.30 | Arazon | The problem is |
| 18:55.50 | __Jamash | could you rephrase it in the form of a stand-up comedy routine? |
| 18:55.52 | Arazon | when my target is at 90%, the stat_texture does not move, and the arrow thats anchored to the top left of the stat texture does move |
| 18:56.15 | Arazon | which is unexpected |
| 18:56.28 | progdog | ~whalenuke cogwheel |
| 18:56.28 | purl | ACTION dons her radiation cloak and tinted glasses while a highly intelligent whale named Ray precipitates critical mass for uncontrolled nuclear fission around cogwheel with his mind powers. |
| 18:57.44 | __Jamash | what should it look like? |
| 18:58.34 | Arazon | http://pastebin.com/Jp27HRkr xml file |
| 18:58.58 | Semlar | this probably is unrelated but at some point you're going to have to account for the percentage being 0 because you can't call texture:SetWidth(0) and get the expected result |
| 18:59.06 | Arazon | it should look like a unit frame with 10% of the grey texture remaining, draining from left to right, and when the targets health fills, fills from right to left |
| 19:00.18 | Arazon | I did some debugging |
| 19:00.25 | __Jamash | how many points are you anchoring, and which ones? |
| 19:00.45 | Arazon | Stat_textures GetLeft() is the exact same after the arrow moves as before the arrow moves |
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| 19:01.18 | Arazon | so the arrow , which is anchored to stat_textures top left side, is moving, when the distance from the left side of the screen to the left side of the texture, is not |
| 19:03.33 | Arazon | Ok so I'm first anchoring it to the BG texture to make it look right, then changing it to anchor to stat texture. i switched it to automatically anchor to stat texture, and it's off by about an offset of 40 |
| 19:03.41 | Arazon | which is really odd |
| 19:03.58 | Arazon | i don't understand why, when anchored to the top left side of the grey texture, its off by so much |
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| 19:05.03 | Arazon | To answer your question _jamash, I'm anchoring the bottom of the arrow texture to the top left of the stat texture (grey texture in the image) |
| 19:05.05 | Zootfizzle | I understand what you're trying to do, I just have to wrap my head around what you're actually doing. Been a long time, my sprockets are rusty |
| 19:05.51 | __Jamash | you're not anchoring it to the texture, you're anchoring it to the frame |
| 19:06.16 | __Jamash | what does BackgroundInsets do? |
| 19:07.35 | __Jamash | it cuts off the background texture |
| 19:08.02 | Arazon | Not sure, I think it has something to do with the background, if it existed, I didn't put in a background. Let me go ahead and update my pastebin |
| 19:09.36 | Arazon | http://pastebin.com/KbmtSnmK |
| 19:09.56 | Arazon | I don't implement a background, just another texture to be used like a background |
| 19:10.38 | __Jamash | ok what's TF_OnLoad do |
| 19:12.09 | Arazon | It initializes the Target_Frame, setting sttributes, and then initializes the textures within target frame, specifically the BG_TExture (background) and stat_texture (gray texture) |
| 19:12.19 | Arazon | and the arrow texture |
| 19:12.21 | Arazon | initializes all of their settings |
| 19:12.25 | __Jamash | as an aside, you should either prefix your variable and function names with the name of your addon, or create a global table to store them |
| 19:12.37 | Semlar | http://pastebin.com/abLeZFJi boom, amazing example |
| 19:12.38 | Arazon | ok |
| 19:12.59 | Zootfizzle | ~whaleprize Semlar |
| 19:13.06 | Zootfizzle | What?! No whale prize? |
| 19:13.14 | Semlar | :( |
| 19:13.28 | Zootfizzle | Just pretend a whale puked on you Semlar and we'll call it good, okay? |
| 19:13.38 | Semlar | are you a whale biologist |
| 19:13.59 | __Jamash | percents go from 0 to 100, semlar |
| 19:13.59 | Zootfizzle | No, just a humble fan of ambergris covered sprockets |
| 19:14.03 | __Jamash | not 0 to 1 |
| 19:14.04 | Arazon | Semlar what are you doing in your example |
| 19:14.26 | Semlar | did you load it? |
| 19:14.34 | __Jamash | what you have there is a decimal fraction, not a percent |
| 19:14.46 | Semlar | i'm not calling it decimalRepresentationOfPercent |
| 19:15.00 | __Jamash | actually it's stored in a double so it's a decimal fraction converted to a binary fraction :) |
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| 19:15.43 | Zootfizzle | gives __Jamash a gold star |
| 19:15.50 | __Jamash | yay! |
| 19:18.31 | Arazon | ~lart __Jamash |
| 19:18.31 | purl | hauls __Jamash up by the scruff of the neck and spanks him until he waddles |
| 19:21.33 | __Jamash | kinky |
| 19:31.38 | Arazon | ok im sorry semlar i have no clue what your code is doing |
| 19:31.55 | Arazon | its doing what I want my frame to do but i have no clue what the hell is going on lol |
| 19:32.30 | Zootfizzle | The first 15 lines of code are doing what you're trying to do with the XML file |
| 19:32.52 | Zootfizzle | The rest of it is what should happen in your event handler |
| 19:32.56 | Arazon | as far as I can tell you're initializing percent and lastupdate to 1 and 0, respectively, then every update, you take something called elapsed and add it to lastupdate |
| 19:33.51 | Zootfizzle | That's limiting the frequency with which the texture updates |
| 19:33.54 | Arazon | ok so my lastupdate would be the targets current health |
| 19:34.23 | Arazon | then check the targets health again, divide it by the targets max health to get a percentage |
| 19:34.24 | Zootfizzle | You don't need to use the lastupdate part at all, it just improves the performance of the code |
| 19:34.35 | Arazon | I know but im making correlations |
| 19:34.59 | Zootfizzle | kk |
| 19:34.59 | Arazon | so my width would be 1- percent * texturewidth |
| 19:35.20 | Arazon | and the coord would be percent, 1, 0, 1 |
| 19:35.26 | Arazon | im gonna make some edits and see what happens |
| 19:36.04 | Semlar | sorry, half the stuff in my example is just so it can do the onupdate stuff |
| 19:37.15 | Semlar | you should just make a function for updating the status bar which takes a value from 0-1 and handles setting the width and texcoord |
| 19:38.04 | Semlar | something to emulate statusbar:SetValue |
| 19:38.51 | Semlar | so you can just call SetValue(0.5) and it'll update everything |
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| 19:40.01 | Semlar | you don't need to ever set the anchor of the arrow more than once since it isn't moving, it's just riding on the edge of the texture |
| 19:40.43 | karl_w_w | riding it like a pony |
| 19:40.50 | Semlar | or a dolphin |
| 19:41.22 | Semlar | actually it's more like riding the cowcatcher of a train |
| 19:41.23 | Kaylin | or a man! |
| 19:42.01 | VIad | died in ulduar and can't release on flame leviathan lol |
| 19:42.01 | Arazon | In my updated code im not moving it more than once |
| 19:42.08 | karl_w_w | or a dolphman! |
| 19:42.13 | VIad | he keeps attacking unmanned vehicles :( |
| 19:42.22 | Semlar | good |
| 19:42.26 | Arazon | it's literally anchored to the topleft of stat texture and it stays there, but when you set the width again, it moves off the frame |
| 19:43.26 | karl_w_w | literally is literally one of the most redundantly used words in the english language |
| 19:43.42 | karl_w_w | that is when it's used correctly, of course |
| 19:43.52 | Semlar | um is h_arrow and target_arrow the same thing |
| 19:46.14 | Arazon | http://pastebin.com/mCp26tXc |
| 19:46.50 | Arazon | look at eventhandler |
| 19:47.10 | Arazon | i dont move the arrow anymore, but it still goes off the left edge of the frame, as if the top left edge is way off in netherland |
| 19:47.26 | Semlar | and the texture itself isn't |
| 19:47.29 | Arazon | *texture, not frame |
| 19:47.33 | Semlar | just the arrow |
| 19:47.43 | Arazon | just the arrow |
| 19:47.48 | Arazon | correct |
| 19:48.24 | Arazon | Weirdest thing ever |
| 19:48.58 | Semlar | i don't know, it's too much code for me to debug |
| 19:49.33 | Arazon | It's literally just that one texture |
| 19:49.41 | Arazon | I can try and recreate the problem on a smaller scale |
| 19:49.53 | Semlar | i would suggest just rewriting it |
| 19:51.03 | Semlar | if it's anchored to the texture there's literally no reason for it to not be on it |
| 19:51.10 | Semlar | unless you've anchored it somewhere else |
| 19:51.57 | Semlar | or unless the texture actually is that wide |
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| 19:52.53 | Semlar | which could happen if you set its width to 0 |
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| 20:12.17 | VIad | http://i.imgur.com/wzpsu.jpg |
| 20:12.18 | VIad | :D |
| 20:13.20 | mikma | cairenn|afk: http://imgur.com/gallery/mnGM8 |
| 20:14.19 | mikma | ruah, think about it: http://imgur.com/gallery/4fl3d |
| 20:14.52 | Arazon | Ok Semlar, I commented out all the unneccesary bits http://pastebin.com/pEHFSamM |
| 20:15.22 | Arazon | http://pastebin.com/8z3fgKXV |
| 20:15.30 | Arazon | xml and lua files respectively |
| 20:18.14 | Cairenn|afk | mikma: lol |
| 20:22.14 | Semlar | why is the background's parent UIParent |
| 20:22.43 | nebula169 | oh god its xml |
| 20:23.05 | __Jamash | where is event defined in eventHandler |
| 20:23.13 | Semlar | you made the frame movable but the background is anchored to the UIParent.. |
| 20:23.22 | Arazon | Oops. |
| 20:23.36 | Arazon | I was copying/pasting from a guide, don't hate |
| 20:23.56 | Semlar | well if the FRAME isn't where it looks like it is that could be your problem |
| 20:24.01 | __Jamash | heh |
| 20:24.56 | Shirik | http://www.amazon.com/HTML-Babies-Web-Design-Volume/dp/0615487661 |
| 20:25.50 | nebula169 | genius |
| 20:25.51 | Arazon | nope, anchored it to self and it's doing the same thing |
| 20:28.58 | Semlar | i don't know, it works perfectly fine for me |
| 20:29.03 | Semlar | even with the missing textures |
| 20:29.09 | Zootfizzle | hugs Cairenn|afk |
| 20:29.48 | Cairenn|afk | rawr! |
| 20:29.48 | Cairenn|afk | pounce hugs Zootfizzle |
| 20:30.06 | Arazon | >.> |
| 20:30.06 | Arazon | maybe it's the textures |
| 20:31.01 | Semlar | well, your arrow width is way the hell bigger than the arrow in your image |
| 20:31.26 | Semlar | so you might want to make sure you have its width right |
| 20:32.25 | Semlar | http://pastebin.com/d5uRJQn7 run this and tell me what it looks like |
| 20:33.06 | Arazon | fixed it lol it was the stupid textures |
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| 20:33.40 | Arazon | opened in photoshop, there was like a good chunk of space on the end |
| 20:33.58 | Arazon | thats annoying |
| 20:34.14 | Semlar | you can crop it with settexcoord |
| 20:34.28 | Semlar | http://i.imgur.com/iomBj.jpg |
| 20:34.35 | Arazon | no lol |
| 20:34.39 | Arazon | it's working |
| 20:34.53 | Arazon | i just moved the image to the left towards the left edge of the canvas |
| 20:35.29 | Semlar | just put it in the middle |
| 20:35.45 | Semlar | then you can anchor it in the center |
| 20:36.11 | Semlar | if you put it off to the side you're going to have to offset its anchor so the point is in the right spot |
| 20:36.58 | Arazon | Yeah all I am doing is setting it's bottom anchored to the top left of the stat texture, it's working great |
| 20:37.10 | Arazon | just praying it doesnt blow up lol |
| 20:38.13 | Arazon | thank you so much semlar |
| 20:38.19 | Semlar | alright well i have my own addon that i'm trying to finish |
| 20:38.34 | Semlar | so don't break anything else |
| 20:42.13 | Arazon | lol ok |
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| 21:17.32 | mikma | http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=121030841377 |
| 21:18.18 | zenzelezz | finally selling your collection? |
| 21:18.44 | mikma | cairenn: http://youtu.be/9uFTBCg-C84 |
| 21:19.02 | mikma | i wish i was that rich now |
| 21:21.27 | Cairenn | lol |
| 21:25.36 | Semlar | http://i.imgur.com/fpGiv.jpg does this look alright for a menu or should i try and make them all the same width |
| 21:26.24 | mikma | semlar: needs more pornmap |
| 21:26.24 | nevcairiel | same width |
| 21:26.54 | mikma | add a option to do both |
| 21:28.18 | Semlar | http://i.imgur.com/chtK1.jpg perhaps i should also cut off their names |
| 21:29.10 | Semlar | L. G. GORDOTH |
| 21:29.14 | mikma | have em grow when you mouseover |
| 21:29.21 | nevcairiel | with same width i didnt mean static width :p |
| 21:30.01 | Semlar | you can't expect me to make it pick the widest name to adapt to |
| 21:30.08 | Semlar | that sounds like effort |
| 21:35.39 | Semlar | okay how about this http://i.imgur.com/u0f2p.jpg |
| 21:35.52 | nevcairiel | that looks better |
| 21:36.01 | nevcairiel | i hope you didnt just tweak your static width |
| 21:36.02 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 21:36.07 | Semlar | YOU DON'T KNOW ME |
| 21:36.30 | Semlar | i'm not going to write the code to make it adjust without seeing how it looks first |
| 21:37.06 | Semlar | >_> |
| 21:38.14 | Semlar | should i abbreviate their names or just leave it like that |
| 21:38.41 | Semlar | it's going to be a menu for you to select the boss |
| 21:39.30 | nevcairiel | there should be a length limit, but it should be in such a way that it only hits for very long names |
| 21:39.51 | nevcairiel | just anchor the font string so that the game starts with its ... |
| 21:40.21 | Semlar | i could shorten the names with multiple words to just their first letters and the last word |
| 21:40.35 | foxlit | You could do that, but the last word could be gibberish. |
| 21:40.45 | nevcairiel | some mobs also have titles after their name |
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| 21:41.09 | nevcairiel | especially formats like "<name>, <long title>" |
| 21:41.31 | foxlit | Xin the Weaponmaster |
| 21:41.43 | foxlit | Yan-Zhu the Uncasked |
| 21:41.59 | foxlit | Alizabal, Mistress of Hate. |
| 21:42.11 | Semlar | A. M. Hate |
| 21:42.14 | foxlit | Nefarian's End |
| 21:42.16 | zenzelezz | people too, if you include titles |
| 21:42.33 | zenzelezz | Roflcopter, Champion of the Frozen Wastes etc. |
| 21:43.01 | Semlar | well this is just for bosses |
| 21:43.04 | foxlit | Ammunae, Construct of Life. |
| 21:43.28 | foxlit | Commander Ulthok, the Festering Prince. |
| 21:43.38 | nevcairiel | Sulfuras, Hand of Ragnaros |
| 21:43.42 | foxlit | (Half the cataclysm boss names have made up titles that nobody ever bothered with!) |
| 21:43.46 | nevcairiel | S. H. Ragnaros? |
| 21:43.49 | nevcairiel | misleading a bit? |
| 21:43.49 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 21:44.03 | Semlar | i don't know, i think i could figure it out |
| 21:44.19 | foxlit | And if you could figure it out for english, what on earth are you going to do for Korean? |
| 21:44.33 | Semlar | actually this won't have any raid bosses before cataclysm |
| 21:44.37 | nevcairiel | 1) learn korean |
| 21:44.44 | nevcairiel | 2) ??? |
| 21:44.51 | nevcairiel | 3) still no profit |
| 21:45.26 | nevcairiel | I would just anchor the font string to your background and let the game cut off |
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| 21:45.37 | nevcairiel | but make it such a size that it really only applies to long names |
| 21:45.40 | nevcairiel | not every name |
| 21:45.51 | nevcairiel | but thats just me |
| 21:45.53 | nevcairiel | shrugs |
| 21:45.59 | nevcairiel | anyway, time for sleepz |
| 21:48.03 | Semlar | http://i.imgur.com/brJ0L.jpg |
| 21:50.27 | foxlit | maybe you can scrollframe that stuff like a bad <marquee> |
| 21:50.36 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 21:51.38 | Semlar | Kora... Koran... Korant... |
| 21:54.12 | Semlar | i highly doubt this font even supports foreign languages |
| 21:54.42 | Semlar | i don't know if they get replaced on those clients |
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| 22:09.02 | Semlar | would it be bad to just use their icons and leave off their names |
| 22:09.55 | Semlar | some good mystery meat navigation |
| 22:11.44 | Semlar | yeah that would probably be bad |
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| 22:56.19 | kd3 | ...wtf? |
| 22:56.24 | kd3 | I start up wow and all of the text is blue |
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| 22:57.40 | Semlar | oh my god a lot of stuff drops in BRD |
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| 23:05.49 | Arazon | Semlar, what type of addon are you creating? |
| 23:06.33 | Semlar | it's sort of a mini encounter journal |
| 23:06.38 | karl_w_w | it's blueday kd3, didn't you get the memo? |
| 23:07.11 | Semlar | it just shows what loot drops from the boss you're fighting that you can roll on |
| 23:07.27 | Arazon | It's class and spec specific? |
| 23:07.29 | Semlar | the filtered list in brd is like the entire height of my screen |
| 23:07.31 | karl_w_w | or the meemo, if you're one of THOSE people |
| 23:08.02 | Semlar | yeah it's filtered to just what you would be allowed to roll on |
| 23:08.57 | Semlar | http://i.imgur.com/8Mozl.jpg |
| 23:09.12 | Arazon | karl_w_w, i thought blue day was may 25th |
| 23:09.32 | Arazon | Very nice, Semlar |
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| 23:56.11 | SuperPortia|roam | Semlar, that thing's morphed quite a bit over the weekend. |
| 23:56.12 | VIad | say hello to Jeff http://i.imgur.com/HL4Sl.jpg |
| 23:57.17 | SuperPortia|roam | Semlar, aren't fonts referenced by type, rather than directly? |
| 23:57.25 | SuperPortia|roam | e.g. GameNormalFont |
| 23:57.29 | SuperPortia|roam | or some such thing |
