| 00:00.16 | foxlit | given the two lines of code you provided, that error should not occur. |
| 00:00.41 | SuperPortia|roam | nevermind..it was a publish error |
| 00:00.42 | foxlit | therefore, the problem is actually elsewhere. Look at your code again. |
| 00:01.01 | foxlit | or you could paste your entire .lua file somewhere. |
| 00:01.49 | SuperPortia|roam | Is there a way to create gobals? |
| 00:02.02 | SuperPortia|roam | I fixed the problem, but it didn't publish it. |
| 00:02.22 | SuperPortia|roam | Should I not be creating globals? |
| 00:02.35 | Dagmar | Generally, no. |
| 00:02.45 | foxlit | meh, create anything you want to. |
| 00:02.53 | SuperPortia|roam | So how do you create methods on an object? |
| 00:03.09 | Dagmar | If you create globals, then JIm creates globals, which means Sally creates globals, and then Steve creates some more globals, and what do you get? |
| 00:03.12 | Dagmar | COMMUNISM. |
| 00:03.27 | SuperPortia|roam | I was gonna say a lot of colliding planets. |
| 00:03.30 | Dagmar | Only create globals when there's no other way around it |
| 00:03.32 | SuperPortia|roam | Anyways. |
| 00:04.59 | foxlit | Anyways, the word "publish" has no meaning in this context. |
| 00:05.10 | Mr_Rabies | urgh |
| 00:05.19 | Mr_Rabies | something new and exciting |
| 00:05.21 | TC-work | or you want to give Dagmar an aneurysm |
| 00:05.23 | Mr_Rabies | a griefer in lfr |
| 00:05.25 | foxlit | while "methods" and "objects" are debatable. |
| 00:05.47 | Mr_Rabies | priest is pulling person with pheremones into the raid area for galaron |
| 00:06.06 | foxlit | Kick priest, problem solved. |
| 00:07.16 | foxlit | Though maybe he's just trying to tell you that you should swap pheromone tanks more often. |
| 00:08.57 | Mr_Rabies | there's like 8 priests |
| 00:09.15 | Mr_Rabies | he did it right at the beginning, pulled the pheremone person into the group |
| 00:09.19 | Mr_Rabies | spread it everywhere |
| 00:09.46 | foxlit | it doesn't really spread. |
| 00:10.23 | foxlit | but garalon running madly around is a problem |
| 00:10.32 | Mr_Rabies | well it was certainly all over the ground |
| 00:10.55 | Mr_Rabies | yeah they do spread :o |
| 00:11.02 | Mr_Rabies | just checked dungeon journal |
| 00:11.13 | foxlit | ah, that makes more sense. |
| 00:11.15 | Mr_Rabies | "pheremones pass to allies in close proximity" |
| 00:12.20 | foxlit | single ally |
| 00:12.29 | foxlit | probably. |
| 00:13.55 | Mr_Rabies | another wipe |
| 00:14.00 | Mr_Rabies | i think i'm done with lfr permanently now |
| 00:14.13 | Vlad| | foxlit: help me :( |
| 00:14.15 | Mr_Rabies | not worth my time |
| 00:14.17 | Vlad| | utf-8 matching :'( |
| 00:14.21 | SuperPortia|roam | It seems all frames are globals |
| 00:15.04 | TC-work | Mr_Rabies: Isn't that what a guild is for? |
| 00:15.24 | Mr_Rabies | what? |
| 00:15.32 | TC-work | raiding |
| 00:15.38 | TC-work | so you don't have to pug it |
| 00:15.46 | Mr_Rabies | yeah, that's normal modes |
| 00:16.13 | Mr_Rabies | you really need to run lfr to gear up and get vp, etc though |
| 00:18.47 | Mr_Rabies | vp is such a pain to get now :| |
| 00:19.01 | Mr_Rabies | i have to run things purely for VP and nothing else, and that really sucks |
| 00:19.22 | Mr_Rabies | they should at least have given faction tabards at revered :| |
| 00:20.38 | foxlit | Vlad|: /why/ do you need help? |
| 00:20.53 | Vlad| | when I write patterns I disregard for utf |
| 00:20.56 | Vlad| | but I wish to consider it now :( |
| 00:21.03 | Vlad| | so my chinese or korean users can use my addon :) |
| 00:21.16 | Vlad| | stuff like %w or %a and such probably don't work with utf-8 or do they? |
| 00:21.50 | foxlit | they don't. |
| 00:22.34 | foxlit | So don't use %w and %a? |
| 00:22.49 | Vlad| | ehm |
| 00:22.53 | Vlad| | thing is |
| 00:23.01 | Vlad| | what if you wish to match an item link |
| 00:23.08 | Vlad| | "You loot %sx%d." |
| 00:23.14 | Vlad| | you gotta convert that to a pattern |
| 00:23.17 | Vlad| | what should you make %s into? |
| 00:23.31 | foxlit | what would you make %s into even if you didn't have to worry about locales? |
| 00:23.31 | Vlad| | needs to match but also not to be greedy as there is a part after, namely "x%d" |
| 00:23.41 | Vlad| | (.-) ? |
| 00:24.14 | foxlit | and is there any reason why you can't use (.-) when faced with korean? |
| 00:24.47 | Vlad| | no, but I wanted to be more specific so it didn't get confused :P |
| 00:24.49 | Vlad| | since .- is anything |
| 00:27.31 | pompy | http://on.fb.me/T05IyK |
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| 00:32.41 | Semlar | vlad what are you talking about |
| 00:32.51 | Semlar | the message has the item link in it right? |
| 00:34.41 | Semlar | what are you trying to do to it |
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| 01:09.20 | chiel | hm |
| 01:09.35 | chiel | does "AchievementAlertFrame1" not exist when the player logs in? |
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| 01:10.17 | chiel | or does it get created when a player earns an achievement? |
| 01:15.01 | nebula169 | chiel: they're created on demand |
| 01:15.25 | chiel | nebula169: ah.. balls... is there any way to see what the name of that thing is, or does it have a parent I can move? |
| 01:15.45 | chiel | cause atm anytime an achievement is earned, it overlays my raid frames |
| 01:15.48 | chiel | which is... not ideal |
| 01:16.01 | nebula169 | you can move the anchor for all alerts |
| 01:16.15 | nebula169 | which is AlertFrame |
| 01:16.16 | chiel | ah |
| 01:16.20 | chiel | I see! |
| 01:16.34 | chiel | does that include loot and such? |
| 01:17.15 | nebula169 | yea, its everything that pops up |
| 01:18.02 | chiel | sweet, thanks :) |
| 01:18.34 | chiel | btw, is PLAYER_LOGIN the best event to attach to for start doing stuff? |
| 01:18.46 | chiel | i tried to attach to ADDON_LOADED, but it fires multiple times. |
| 01:18.56 | chiel | oh wait |
| 01:19.01 | chiel | that fires for every addon... d'oh. |
| 01:19.10 | chiel | i'm such an idiot |
| 01:19.27 | chiel | i guess i should listen for ADDON_LOADED and check if it's my adddon |
| 01:19.48 | nebula169 | http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=ewa2CiGj |
| 01:20.35 | chiel | hmm |
| 01:20.52 | chiel | so it's not enough to just do AlertFrame:ClearAllPoints() and then SetPoint() it to where I want it? |
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| 01:22.37 | kd3 | ugh |
| 01:22.40 | kd3 | cars are expensive |
| 01:22.58 | kd3 | just waved goodbye to $1200 |
| 01:22.59 | Cairenn | Yes =/ |
| 01:23.17 | chiel | hmm |
| 01:23.19 | kd3 | hopefully I'm good for another 50,000 miles, though |
| 01:23.24 | Cairenn | hasn't had a car for a number of years now because of exactly that. |
| 01:23.34 | chiel | guys, what is the best way to initialise an addon? |
| 01:23.42 | chiel | i'm doing it on PLAYER_LOGIN atm |
| 01:23.54 | chiel | but is that the "earliest" i can do it? |
| 01:24.03 | kd3 | http://www.wowpedia.org/Saving_variables_between_game_sessions |
| 01:24.07 | chiel | i tried doing ADDON_LOADED and checking if my addon is the one that loaded |
| 01:24.18 | chiel | but that didn't seem to actually work |
| 01:24.38 | kd3 | see also http://www.wowpedia.org/AddOn_loading_process |
| 01:24.40 | chiel | ah nvm I am an idiot. |
| 01:24.47 | chiel | kd3: thank you |
| 01:26.21 | chiel | woo, got it |
| 01:26.26 | chiel | i was doing it on PLAYER_LOGIN |
| 01:26.30 | chiel | but it felt wrong, for some reason |
| 01:27.11 | chiel | nebula169: regarding your paste, can't I just AlertFrame:ClearAllPoints() and then SetPoint() it to where I want it? |
| 01:28.04 | chiel | oh right |
| 01:28.08 | chiel | that comes from blizzard's stuff |
| 01:28.14 | chiel | I'm so clever.... >.< |
| 01:28.45 | chiel | hm |
| 01:28.57 | chiel | now they appear halfway off the left of my screen, lol :) |
| 01:29.11 | chiel | clearly positioning BOTTOMLEFT doesn't work out : < |
| 01:29.13 | chiel | sad times. |
| 01:29.45 | Mr_Rabies | hahaha |
| 01:29.53 | Mr_Rabies | going through old stuff from when i was a kid |
| 01:30.00 | Mr_Rabies | found an interplay poster with blizzard's early games on it |
| 01:30.05 | Mr_Rabies | lost vikings and rock n roll racin |
| 01:30.06 | chiel | basically i want to position that bloody thing above my chatframe on the left >.< |
| 01:33.22 | kd3 | heh. "I can't destroy you over the internet! What would I do, call you fat? (Are you fat? If you're fat, then ha! Try dieting, fatty)" |
| 01:33.36 | kd3 | this has been an interesting thread: http://www.reddit.com/r/psychology/comments/14e617/ama_request_someone_who_is_related_to_friends/c7ckn3o?context=5 |
| 01:38.18 | chiel | anyone have any good ideas for how to position the AlertFrame if I want to position it above my chat frame? |
| 01:40.31 | chiel | hm |
| 01:40.55 | chiel | it's not letting me reposition my chatframe right up against the screen's bottom edge |
| 01:40.58 | chiel | :/ |
| 01:41.36 | kd3 | that's because the editbox attached to chatframe1 is bound to the screen, and since it's below the chatbox... |
| 01:42.34 | chiel | hm |
| 01:42.41 | chiel | is there any way I can make it... not do that? :P |
| 01:42.50 | Semlar | you can attach it to the top |
| 01:43.17 | chiel | yeah, that's what I would like |
| 01:43.24 | chiel | but I imagine it will be in the way of the tabs |
| 01:43.38 | Semlar | it only shows up when you're typing something in |
| 01:43.55 | chiel | yeah, that's true, it's just that background thingy i guess, that's always there |
| 01:47.27 | Vlad| | foxlit: just a thing, if my pattern is "^You receive loot: (.-)x(%d+)%.$" |
| 01:47.53 | Vlad| | and the message is "You receive loot: [Bomb x25]x4." |
| 01:48.02 | Vlad| | hmm wonder if it will get confused |
| 01:48.32 | Vlad| | apparently not, good :P |
| 01:51.09 | chiel | ok so |
| 01:51.17 | chiel | i positioned my editbox at the top now |
| 01:51.26 | chiel | but it's still not letting me reposition my chatframe1 |
| 01:51.34 | chiel | it seems to be bound to my actionbar |
| 01:52.15 | chiel | hah, balls.. now I can't click the tabs anymore \o/ |
| 01:52.45 | chiel | i guess when it hides it doesn't actually fully hide. |
| 01:54.15 | Semlar | vlad isn't the message going to be different for other localizations |
| 01:55.51 | chiel | hmm |
| 01:56.03 | chiel | maybe i need to change the level of the editbox or something |
| 01:56.29 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:56.38 | chiel | oh :D |
| 01:56.55 | chiel | it still has a backdrop.. can i clear that somehow? |
| 01:57.39 | chiel | sweet, that works a charm, thanks Semlar |
| 01:57.44 | Dark_Elf | dang it taking long time for wow to get to play button after this update |
| 01:57.47 | SuperPortia|roam | Are tables copied by reference or by value? |
| 01:57.57 | chiel | I don't suppose you have any solution for forcing it to position up against the bottom edge of the screen? :D |
| 01:58.00 | Semlar | reference |
| 01:58.24 | Semlar | SetClampedToScreen(false) |
| 01:58.35 | chiel | ah |
| 01:58.36 | chiel | awesome |
| 01:58.38 | chiel | thanks so much |
| 01:58.54 | Semlar | it should probably just have its size changed or something though |
| 01:59.04 | chiel | how do you mean? |
| 01:59.11 | chiel | it won't let me position it lower than the actionbar |
| 01:59.15 | chiel | which is kinda annoying |
| 01:59.36 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:59.44 | Semlar | but i mean it should still be clamped to the screen |
| 01:59.55 | chiel | hm |
| 01:59.59 | chiel | doesn't seem to help :s |
| 02:00.12 | chiel | it still refuses to position lower than the actionbar |
| 02:00.14 | Semlar | well i just dragged it off the screen |
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| 02:00.27 | chiel | hm |
| 02:00.29 | chiel | you are right |
| 02:00.32 | chiel | I can drag it into place |
| 02:00.53 | chiel | but if I do ChatFrame1:SetPoint('BOTTOMLEFT', UIParent, 'BOTTOMLEFT', 0, 0) it doesn't do it :/ |
| 02:01.02 | Dark_Elf | if fubar can put a bar down there, then u can too lol |
| 02:01.39 | Semlar | worked for me |
| 02:01.47 | chiel | hm |
| 02:01.51 | chiel | weird things going on |
| 02:02.31 | chiel | hm wtf |
| 02:02.38 | chiel | pasting the same line into a /script in the game works |
| 02:02.43 | chiel | but not from the lua... :/ |
| 02:02.53 | Semlar | are you sure your lua is even being read |
| 02:02.59 | chiel | yep |
| 02:03.05 | chiel | the rest is in there and working flawlessly |
| 02:03.06 | Semlar | are you suuuure |
| 02:03.11 | chiel | like the EditBox moving |
| 02:03.28 | chiel | and the SetClampedToScreen(false) is in there too, and works |
| 02:03.42 | Semlar | well then it's probably being moved after you move it |
| 02:03.50 | chiel | hm |
| 02:03.51 | chiel | annoying |
| 02:03.51 | chiel | :D |
| 02:03.57 | chiel | oh i guess maybe blizzard moves it |
| 02:04.01 | chiel | according to ehri saved variables |
| 02:04.31 | Dark_Elf | maybe shouldnt 0,0 it maybe indent it over 10 or so |
| 02:04.48 | chiel | yeah, i know, the 0, 0 is just for the sake of testing |
| 02:04.57 | chiel | but what Semlar says makes sense |
| 02:05.09 | chiel | it's probably blizzard moving it according to it's saved variables |
| 02:05.47 | chiel | also ChatFrame1EditBox:SetBackdrop(nil) doesn't seem to be clearing the backdrop.. :/ |
| 02:05.49 | Semlar | you could try waiting for VARIABLES_LOADED or some similar event |
| 02:06.32 | chiel | hmm |
| 02:06.40 | Dark_Elf | thats probably the problem |
| 02:06.47 | Semlar | it's not a backdrop |
| 02:06.55 | chiel | oh |
| 02:07.07 | chiel | it's not a separate frame though? i checked with /fstack |
| 02:07.15 | Dark_Elf | if blizzard moves it then it must be loading b4 blizzard gets to it |
| 02:07.31 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:07.46 | Semlar | Right, Mid |
| 02:08.07 | Semlar | you'd be better off just hiding the whole edit frame yourself |
| 02:08.48 | chiel | hm, won't that hide my entire editbox though, and not show up when i type? |
| 02:09.00 | Semlar | it shows itself when you push enter |
| 02:09.04 | Semlar | you're going to have to keep hiding it |
| 02:09.20 | Semlar | on.. something |
| 02:09.29 | Semlar | i don't know what it does to go from editable to not |
| 02:09.43 | chiel | hm fair enough |
| 02:10.38 | chiel | I wish I had your knowledge Semlar.. would make my life a lot easier haha |
| 02:12.04 | Semlar | try ChatFrame1EditBox:HookScript('OnEditFocusLost', function() self:Hide() end) |
| 02:12.14 | Semlar | er function() should be function(self) |
| 02:13.04 | chiel | fuck |
| 02:13.06 | chiel | awesome |
| 02:13.07 | chiel | :D |
| 02:13.12 | chiel | thta works wonderfully |
| 02:13.15 | chiel | that* |
| 02:13.30 | chiel | now if I can posiion the chatframe like i want it, i'll be a happy guy for tonight |
| 02:13.40 | Semlar | you shouldn't have to disable the mouse if you do that |
| 02:13.45 | chiel | sadly waiting for variables_loaded didn't help either |
| 02:14.15 | chiel | oh nice |
| 02:14.26 | chiel | perfect |
| 02:14.30 | chiel | thanks a lot :D |
| 02:14.51 | chiel | saves me having to install prat or some other chat mod. |
| 02:15.37 | Dark_Elf | installs chatter on chiel's computer lol |
| 02:16.01 | chiel | cool, if i wait for PLAYER_LOGIN, i can reposition ChatFrame1 |
| 02:16.21 | Dark_Elf | if u do it on player_entering_world can too |
| 02:16.35 | chiel | yeah, player_login fires just before that i believe |
| 02:16.38 | Semlar | that fires every time you see a loading screen |
| 02:16.59 | chiel | entering_world? |
| 02:17.03 | Semlar | yeah |
| 02:17.07 | chiel | login seems better then |
| 02:17.15 | kd3 | hahaha; wth... http://imgur.com/NyqA5 |
| 02:17.26 | Semlar | well, if you reload i don't think login fires |
| 02:17.32 | Semlar | i'm not sure |
| 02:17.34 | chiel | it does |
| 02:17.38 | chiel | err |
| 02:17.43 | chiel | maybe it doesn't actually |
| 02:17.50 | chiel | i've been using /reload to test.. but idk xD |
| 02:18.12 | Semlar | it does |
| 02:18.20 | Dark_Elf | enter a dungeon and see also for a real test |
| 02:18.22 | Semlar | apparently it fires on login and reload |
| 02:18.47 | chiel | splendid :) |
| 02:19.32 | Semlar | http://i.imgur.com/kTsj2.jpg |
| 02:19.50 | Semlar | i think i need a better way to display item level |
| 02:20.29 | Dark_Elf | yeah grey sucks lol |
| 02:21.10 | Semlar | i might color it based on relation to what you have equipped |
| 02:21.48 | kd3 | go neon yellow like the tooltips |
| 02:22.15 | Semlar | puke yellow |
| 02:22.44 | chiel | xD |
| 02:23.15 | chiel | hm |
| 02:23.25 | chiel | not letting me reposition GameTooltip, even though it works from within the game. |
| 02:24.11 | Semlar | permanently? |
| 02:24.34 | chiel | yeah i just want to position it in the bottomright corner |
| 02:25.51 | Arrowmaster | pompy: i won the xbl scratch and match! |
| 02:25.54 | Semlar | i think you'd have to hook something and use SetOwner(UIParent, "ANCHOR_BOTTOMRIGHT") or something |
| 02:26.11 | chiel | oh |
| 02:26.12 | Semlar | or WorldFrame |
| 02:26.12 | chiel | :/ |
| 02:26.24 | Semlar | well, the gametooltip gets moved.. a lot |
| 02:26.38 | Semlar | you can't just set it and expect it to stay put |
| 02:26.54 | chiel | haha, i am pretty naive still, forgive me :) |
| 02:27.28 | pompy | Arrowmaster whats that |
| 02:27.57 | chiel | it's GameTooltip_SetDefaultAnchor it seems |
| 02:28.36 | Semlar | bottomright probably isn't right |
| 02:28.46 | Arrowmaster | pompy: the sales & specials app where all the deals of the week are now |
| 02:28.49 | Semlar | i think it might actually show up outside the frame |
| 02:28.58 | Arrowmaster | it has a daily scratch and win game |
| 02:29.12 | pompy | hmmm |
| 02:31.31 | pompy | they just aired the live action trailer for the new Metro game, nice. |
| 02:31.58 | chiel | Semlar: got it working :) |
| 02:32.20 | chiel | had to use hooksecurefunc on that event and then do SetOwner(parent, 'ANCHOR_NONE') |
| 02:33.29 | Semlar | you could try this hooksecurefunc('GameTooltip_SetDefaultAnchor', function(tip) if tip == GameTooltip then tip:ClearAllPoints() tip:SetPoint('BOTTOMRIGHT', WorldFrame, 'BOTTOMRIGHT') end end) |
| 02:34.05 | Semlar | not sure how much of a difference it'll make |
| 02:34.16 | chiel | haha me neither :) |
| 02:36.39 | kd3 | native steam. yay! |
| 02:37.14 | chiel | wonder how hard it would be to make "weak auras" |
| 02:38.19 | Semlar | :\ |
| 02:38.36 | chiel | too much? xD |
| 02:39.08 | Semlar | you could just use weakauras |
| 02:39.13 | chiel | i am |
| 02:39.29 | chiel | just mucking about for my own entertainment really :) |
| 02:39.39 | chiel | don't worry, my horrible code will not see the light of day, haha |
| 02:44.25 | pompy | Arrowmaster why do they have a salesandspecials+ app lol |
| 02:46.31 | pompy | Arrowmaster i won!! |
| 02:46.57 | pompy | guardian heroes venus fly trap prop lol... |
| 02:47.00 | pompy | what did u win |
| 03:27.54 | chiel | if i want to show a certain frame when the player enters combat, is InCombatLockdown() the bst way to check that, in an event that registers on PLAYER_REGEN_DISABLED ? |
| 03:28.47 | chiel | cause that function always seems to give nil for me |
| 03:28.56 | chiel | does it have to do with the fact i'm just hitting a dummy? |
| 03:29.57 | foxlit | don't check InCombatLockdown at all. |
| 03:30.32 | chiel | thing is, i want to hide it again when i exit combat, so i have both PLAYER_REGEN_DISABLED and PLAYER_REGEN_ENABLED registered |
| 03:30.45 | chiel | then inside the event callback i want to check combat state and show/hide based on that |
| 03:31.27 | chiel | perhaps there is a better way to determine combat state? since i don't actually care about the lockdown state |
| 03:31.33 | chiel | since it's just my own frame i want to show/hide |
| 03:32.36 | chiel | if i don't check InCombatLockdown() and just show the frame, it works just fine |
| 03:32.43 | chiel | but yeah, want to hide when i exit combat again as well :p |
| 03:33.16 | foxlit | so hide it when you handle PLAYER_REGEN_ENABLED. |
| 03:33.35 | chiel | oooh right, cause the event name is passed in.. duh, i'm such a moron |
| 03:33.37 | chiel | thanks foxlit |
| 03:34.03 | foxlit | and if you ever want to solve the mystery of why InCombatLockdown() doesn't behave as you expect, http://www.wowpedia.org/API_InCombatLockdown might be a good place to start :) |
| 03:34.19 | chiel | ah cool, thank you :) |
| 03:35.01 | chiel | ah, it gets affect *after* the event |
| 03:38.54 | Arrowmaster | pompy: same thing |
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| 03:39.45 | Arazon | Who here knows their personality type according to Miggs-Breyer? |
| 03:40.09 | Arazon | err Jung Typology, excuse me |
| 03:40.59 | Arazon | Sorry, random question, I know |
| 03:41.37 | Arazon | If you want to find out, http://www.humanmetrics.com/cgi-win/jtypes2.asp is a test you can take. |
| 03:49.20 | chiel | oh balls, only the first chatframe was repositioned, haha |
| 03:49.28 | chiel | i kinda thought they would just all anchor to ChatFrame1 |
| 03:49.29 | chiel | >.< |
| 03:51.19 | chiel | is it possible to check if a frame is shown? |
| 03:51.36 | pompy | Arrowmaster: http://kotaku.com/5966786/here-is-dark-souls-iis-debut-trailer |
| 03:52.31 | chiel | ah, IsShown() |
| 03:57.17 | chiel | right, bedtim |
| 03:57.19 | chiel | +e |
| 03:57.23 | chiel | thanks for all the help guys |
| 04:04.01 | Arrowmaster | i tried to copy some stuff between laptops over wifi, it was transfering at 56kbps |
| 04:04.08 | kd3 | eesh |
| 04:04.12 | Arrowmaster | usb stick it is i guess |
| 04:04.41 | kd3 | cat5? |
| 04:05.16 | Arrowmaster | the ethernet adapter in this laptop isnt supported well under linux so thats not an option |
| 04:05.29 | kd3 | hm |
| 04:05.33 | kd3 | oh. native steam. yay~ |
| 04:06.40 | Arrowmaster | actually something may be wrong, a download from the net is really slow too |
| 04:16.28 | Arazon | if it's xferring over wifi (assuming theyr both on the same network) something is really wrong. |
| 04:16.37 | Arazon | And its at 56 kb |
| 04:16.57 | Arazon | Thats data going simply from your laptop, to the router, back to the other laptop. |
| 04:17.18 | Arazon | Should only be throttled by the capacity of your wireless and your router |
| 04:17.32 | Arazon | for me its 3-4 mbps |
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| 04:20.26 | kd3 | ahahaha; wrong, but lmao: http://imgur.com/o54oA |
| 04:24.22 | Cairenn | wow ... |
| 04:26.10 | Cairenn | classy - definitely classy |
| 04:34.54 | Arazon | I'm getting nothing output when I use this code, whats wrong? http://pastebin.com/7rYdDNtk |
| 04:39.18 | Arazon | it's really basic, all the logic checks out |
| 04:39.25 | Arazon | but it's not outputting anything... |
| 04:39.31 | Arazon | 5 lines of code lol |
| 04:39.36 | Seerah | Arazon: I don't see anything wrong with it... Do you have Lua errors shown in Interface Options? Do you have the .lua file named the EXACT same as what you put in the TOC file? |
| 04:39.54 | Seerah | And did you restart the client before making any changes/additions to the TOC file? |
| 04:40.07 | Seerah | does the addon show in your AddOns list at the character select screen? |
| 04:41.03 | tabletennis | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:42.27 | Arazon | Renamed the lua file to not be the same suffix as the .toc file, the .toc was Unit_frame the lua was Test, renamed Test to Unit_Frame, included Unit_frame in the .toc, now it's saying that event is a nil value and shouldn't be concatenated to the string o.O |
| 04:42.38 | Arazon | I love programming |
| 04:43.42 | tabletennis | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:44.07 | tabletennis | <PROTECTED> |
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| 04:44.27 | Seerah | tabletennis: not sure. use /eventtrace |
| 04:44.52 | tabletennis | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:45.41 | tabletennis | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:45.43 | tabletennis | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:46.42 | Seerah | Arazon: hrmm... do this: http://pastebin.com/0pckcsWf |
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| 05:16.43 | Arazon | Unit_Frame.lua:4: attempted to concatenate local `event' (a nil value) |
| 05:19.25 | Arazon | It's really weird, since event should be a string, right, Seerah? |
| 05:19.48 | Arazon | and event is supposed to be passed when the event occurs |
| 05:19.51 | Seerah | yes. put print(event) above that line |
| 05:20.19 | Arazon | nothing |
| 05:20.23 | Arazon | its nil? |
| 05:20.38 | Arazon | it's not passing anything on event |
| 05:20.46 | Seerah | put print(self) instead...... |
| 05:20.54 | Arazon | Why would it be passing a nil value for event in a script for when an event occurs? |
| 05:21.09 | Arazon | still nothing |
| 05:21.55 | Seerah | okay, put print("hello") at the top of the lua file. |
| 05:23.20 | Arazon | that's fine |
| 05:23.28 | Arazon | outputs hello |
| 05:23.40 | Seerah | put that line inside your event handler |
| 05:23.47 | Seerah | (instead of print(event)) |
| 05:24.42 | Arazon | k it still outputs hello |
| 05:25.20 | Arazon | but its still giving me concat errors with event being nil |
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| 05:25.49 | Seerah | right, that wouldn't change the value of event - just show that the function is being called :) |
| 05:26.34 | Arazon | I understand, you were debugging the print command, so we know the print command works, it's the event that we tested and it's not showing anything, which confirms the error that the event is nil. |
| 05:27.22 | Seerah | no, not that the print command works - that the event function works ;) |
| 05:27.53 | Arazon | Ah |
| 05:28.00 | Arazon | then why did we use print outside the event |
| 05:29.08 | Seerah | to make sure your lua file was working :) |
| 05:29.28 | Arazon | So we know it's working, the event is working, but event is being passed as nil. |
| 05:30.03 | Seerah | yes, which is odd |
| 05:31.48 | Seerah | I'm at a loss this late at night and have to log off' |
| 05:31.55 | Seerah | hope someone else can help you get it figured out |
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| 05:32.16 | Arazon | thanks |
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| 05:36.13 | Arazon | snyone wanna take a crack at it? http://pastebin.com/jQdfNPQj |
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| 05:46.33 | Semlar_ | error is what now? |
| 05:48.05 | Semlar_ | try just function(...) print(...) end |
| 05:48.19 | Arazon | attempt to concatenate local `event'( a nil value) |
| 05:49.31 | Semlar_ | should output a table and the event |
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| 05:50.03 | Arazon | Unexpected symbol near '...' |
| 05:50.16 | Shirik | what |
| 05:50.28 | Arazon | idk lol I think it hates me |
| 05:50.43 | Shirik | paste what you just tried |
| 05:51.04 | Arazon | local frame = CreateFrame("Frame", nil, UIParent) |
| 05:51.06 | Arazon | frame:RegisterEvent("PLAYER_LOGIN") |
| 05:51.08 | Arazon | frame:SetScript("OnEvent", function(...) ChatFrame1:AddMessage(...) end) |
| 05:51.22 | furrywind | quick question: what's the preferred method of Addon-to-Addon communication between Battle.net RealID or BatteTag players? |
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| 05:51.42 | Arazon | typically, curse words and hash tags. |
| 05:51.49 | Shirik | don't do ChatFrame1:AddMessage() |
| 05:51.50 | Shirik | do print |
| 05:51.51 | Semlar_ | stop using addmessage for now |
| 05:51.55 | Semlar_ | yeah |
| 05:52.05 | Shirik | that shouldn't create that error, but do it anyway |
| 05:52.15 | Semlar_ | you're adding a layer of complexity |
| 05:52.27 | Arazon | same error |
| 05:52.36 | Shirik | ok what version of WoW are you running? |
| 05:52.55 | Arazon | one sec lemme check |
| 05:53.31 | Semlar_ | how could that possibly error |
| 05:54.00 | Shirik | print = function() error("Unexpectyed symbol near '...'") end |
| 05:54.24 | nebula169 | lol |
| 05:54.26 | Arazon | lol |
| 05:55.05 | Semlar_ | do local f = CreateFrame('frame') f:RegisterEvent('PLAYER_LOGIN') f:SetScript('OnEvent', print) |
| 05:56.00 | Arazon | nothing happened |
| 05:56.13 | Shirik | answer my question :P |
| 05:56.14 | Semlar_ | well it didn't error! |
| 05:56.33 | Shirik | omg |
| 05:56.46 | Shirik | Arazon what program are you writing your code in? |
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| 05:57.11 | Arazon | Notepad++ but get this, I logged into another char using the same addon, and it worked |
| 05:57.19 | Arazon | i am severely confoozled |
| 05:57.33 | Semlar_ | player_login is early enough that it might not get printed |
| 05:57.34 | Shirik | did you change a TOC file? |
| 05:57.41 | Arazon | dont think so |
| 05:57.57 | Arazon | but i went to a char that only had that one addon enabled so i think i might have been getting interference |
| 05:58.03 | Arazon | or something |
| 05:58.04 | Semlar_ | or might get wiped out of the chat |
| 05:58.06 | Arazon | idk |
| 05:58.20 | Arazon | Craziness |
| 05:58.26 | Shirik | this still does not explain the error |
| 05:58.50 | Semlar_ | no.. no |
| 05:59.17 | Shirik | to fix all errors run seterrorhandler(function() end) |
| 05:59.59 | Arazon | asshole |
| 06:00.07 | Semlar_ | another addon could theoretically interfere but uh, it would have to be doing something ridiculous |
| 06:00.16 | Shirik | no it can't |
| 06:00.20 | Shirik | you can't replace the compiler |
| 06:00.30 | Semlar_ | not the ... one |
| 06:00.41 | Semlar_ | the event being nil |
| 06:01.20 | Shirik | Arazon still never answered my question |
| 06:01.29 | Arazon | No I'm not gay |
| 06:01.40 | Semlar_ | is this on live? |
| 06:01.49 | Shirik | first off, I do not find that amusing |
| 06:01.55 | Shirik | secondly, what version of WoW are you running? |
| 06:01.55 | Arazon | Yes |
| 06:02.01 | Arazon | and 5.1, just updated |
| 06:02.34 | Arazon | logged out, ran launcher, and logged into an account with no other addons and it worked |
| 06:03.51 | Semlar_ | problem solved forever |
| 06:03.59 | Arazon | hopefully. |
| 06:04.14 | Arazon | That has got to be the weirdest thing I've seen in my 3 days of addon programming |
| 06:05.16 | Arazon | Why does the version matter for that particular function? Did they update it at some point in the development of wow? I didn't see it in the documentation |
| 06:05.38 | Shirik | a very long time ago |
| 06:06.08 | Arazon | What the heck did they do to it? |
| 06:06.20 | Shirik | Moved from Lua 5.0 to 5.1 |
| 06:06.30 | Arazon | o.O |
| 06:06.53 | Arazon | How did moving from version to version of lua affect the arguments for a particular function |
| 06:07.00 | Shirik | it didn't |
| 06:07.07 | Shirik | it affected whether or not you could use ... in the body of a function |
| 06:07.40 | Arazon | What was the original setscript() functions parameters, if they couldnt use ... |
| 06:07.47 | Arazon | and what does ... signify? |
| 06:07.54 | Semlar_ | vararg |
| 06:07.56 | durcyn | ... = all remaining args |
| 06:07.56 | Arazon | Sorry im new to this and slightly curious |
| 06:08.27 | Semlar_ | like.. everything passed to the function |
| 06:08.49 | Cairenn | Good lord ... WoW switched to lua 5.1 back in 2006! |
| 06:09.02 | Semlar_ | >_> |
| 06:10.14 | Shirik | I said a long time ago |
| 06:10.31 | Arazon | so what was setscript() like before 5.1 |
| 06:10.43 | Semlar_ | arfg1, arg2 |
| 06:10.47 | Semlar_ | -f |
| 06:10.57 | karl_w_w | arf arf |
| 06:10.59 | Shirik | it was "use XML" and the mess that was the globals that plagued us for all eternity |
| 06:11.56 | Semlar_ | i hate this onscreen keyboard |
| 06:12.14 | Semlar_ | i can't type |
| 06:12.29 | karl_w_w | hate is such a strong word |
| 06:12.46 | Semlar_ | loathe |
| 06:13.02 | Semlar_ | seething passionate hatred |
| 06:13.29 | durcyn | you should save your passion for something useful |
| 06:13.35 | Semlar_ | no |
| 06:14.22 | karl_w_w | be a lover not a hater |
| 06:14.44 | Arazon | ^ hippy |
| 06:14.50 | Cairenn | omfg, the clapper is back! |
| 06:14.50 | Shirik | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFkAAvDkj9k |
| 06:15.24 | karl_w_w | like "i would love to cast this on screen keyboard into the firey depths of hell" |
| 06:15.36 | Semlar_ | yes |
| 06:15.53 | Semlar_ | were it not a virtual object |
| 06:16.40 | Semlar_ | maybe the fiery depths of the recycle bin |
| 06:17.47 | Arazon | I always pictured the recycle bin as something benign, like an office waste basket |
| 06:18.43 | Semlar_ | anything with the power to eradicate your files must have some fire behind it |
| 06:19.41 | Shirik | emergency artificial intelligence incinerator |
| 06:20.48 | karl_w_w | but the recycle bin doesn't eradicate your files |
| 06:21.41 | karl_w_w | it is actually the files' last chance saloon |
| 06:22.24 | karl_w_w | if you disable the recycle bin files are burnt on the spot, presumably with a flamethrower or some such |
| 06:25.36 | Arazon | so the recycle bin is sorta like the waiting room for hell |
| 06:25.48 | Arazon | pleasant elevator music, linoleum, etc |
| 06:25.53 | Semlar_ | my poor recycle bin never gets any use |
| 06:25.58 | Arazon | like a dentist office |
| 06:26.05 | Semlar_ | i shift delete everything |
| 06:26.13 | Arazon | slean reception, but all the rooms are filled with screaming people |
| 06:26.29 | Arazon | clean* |
| 06:27.07 | Arazon | question |
| 06:27.21 | Arazon | if you couldnt pass the event that occured to the function, how did you know what event occured? |
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| 06:47.15 | kd3 | wait, what? European users can only see pegi18+ content between 11pm and 3am? |
| 06:47.42 | kd3 | http://www.gamespot.com/news/nintendo-blocking-18-wii-u-content-in-europe-until-11-pm-report-6401246 |
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| 06:48.25 | Jamash | bleep bloop |
| 06:49.21 | Jamash | kd3: that's fucking stupid |
| 06:49.35 | Jamash | good thing I'm not in europe or I'd be deleted for saying that |
| 06:54.41 | karl_w_w | deletes Jamash |
| 07:00.38 | Thunder_Child | deletes karl_w_w |
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| 07:04.48 | Arazon | How were setscript functions handled before they switched to lua 5.1? |
| 07:05.27 | Semlar_ | you could still pass arguments to functions |
| 07:05.49 | Semlar_ | you just couldn't use ... |
| 07:06.36 | Semlar_ | so you had arg1, arg2, arg3 etc |
| 07:11.52 | Semlar_ | arg was like ... |
| 07:12.55 | Arazon | o.O |
| 07:13.46 | Semlar_ | i think it's still accessible for backwards compatability |
| 07:14.19 | Semlar_ | arg is a table |
| 07:15.38 | Semlar_ | you might try printing #arg in a vararg function and see if it works |
| 07:15.45 | Arazon | I don't understand...so are there more than 3 arguments for the function that you would create with setscript? |
| 07:16.13 | Semlar_ | an event has its own signature |
| 07:16.51 | Semlar_ | which means some events pass arguments to the event handler |
| 07:17.14 | Jamash | each event handler would read the argX variables |
| 07:17.26 | Jamash | which were global |
| 07:17.34 | Jamash | it was a dark time |
| 07:17.39 | Semlar_ | yes |
| 07:17.56 | Arazon | did you have to define them like setscript("OnEvent" function(arg1, arg2, arg3, arg4) print(arg1) end)? |
| 07:18.00 | Jamash | no |
| 07:18.09 | Jamash | arg1 arg2 arg3 were global |
| 07:18.10 | Semlar_ | they just were |
| 07:18.17 | Jamash | as in, not paramaters |
| 07:18.20 | Jamash | as in, global |
| 07:18.27 | Arazon | ouch |
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| 07:18.33 | Arazon | no wonder they switched |
| 07:18.38 | Jamash | yeah |
| 07:19.45 | Arazon | so like setscript("OnEvent" function() print(arg1) end) would have worked? With no arguments at all? I guess that would work with globals, but it sounds really awkward |
| 07:20.25 | Jamash | yes |
| 07:32.12 | Semlar_ | naming the combat log event returns was fun |
| 07:34.28 | Jamash | does lua allow meta-nexting yet? |
| 07:38.25 | Jamash | oh there's an ipairs metamethod in 5.2 |
| 07:38.39 | Jamash | yeah I knew there was something I wanted from 5.2 that 5.1 doesn't have |
| 07:39.35 | Jamash | they still need a __next metamethod |
| 07:46.41 | Semlar_ | next! |
| 07:49.24 | __Jamash | I'm so meta |
| 07:49.55 | __Jamash | even this acrostic |
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| 08:41.45 | mikma | http://imgur.com/gallery/DeXED |
| 08:43.27 | karl_w_w | wow |
| 08:43.35 | karl_w_w | it's like retard cooking school |
| 08:44.06 | Humbedooh | mikma: don't drink in the morning - problem solved |
| 08:44.14 | Humbedooh | you finns and your alcohol.. |
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| 08:45.01 | mikma | koskenkorva <3 |
| 08:45.10 | mikma | where is blu when i need him, http://imgur.com/gallery/RRoIH |
| 08:45.45 | mikma | explosions get to be so pretty when done with Nonel's and in the dark |
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| 10:05.14 | sintAcks | lajrsifetr8983685160610435028734267dyuo4mqwiozvuno8rcs8 -- this text was hidden... I didn't even see it until I highlighted this to copy it |
| 10:05.14 | sintAcks | *Battle.Net Account Action:79 Hour Suspension |
| 10:05.20 | sintAcks | 79 hours seems ... really weird. |
| 10:05.29 | Sintacks | also, yes, phish |
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| 11:18.06 | nevcairiel | ~framexml |
| 11:18.06 | purl | i guess framexml is Blizzard's UI for WoW. Export code/art from the client by using the wow.exe -console or open 'World of Warcraft.app' --args -console after game loads press ~ and enter commands "ExportInterfaceFiles code" and "ExportInterfaceFiles art" (must be used on login screen); or view it online at http://github.com/tekkub/wow-ui-source , http://wowprogramming.com/utils/xmlbrowser or http://wow.go-hero.net/framexml |
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| 11:37.59 | jpossi | worked, thanks :) |
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| 12:39.22 | Vlad| | lol I am moaning |
| 12:39.31 | Vlad| | recorded myself sleep :P and I snore |
| 12:40.00 | AcidWeb | Next time steam it |
| 12:40.13 | AcidWeb | *stream |
| 12:40.15 | Vlad| | well, I snore and make sounds only 40 minutes out of the whole night so not that bad :P |
| 12:40.24 | Vlad| | the recorder ignores silence |
| 12:40.42 | Vlad| | wonder what I was dreaming that made me moan :P |
| 12:40.56 | Vlad| | AcidWeb: next time it will be on-demand stream |
| 12:42.27 | AcidWeb | Most probably dreamed about Fisker eating your cookies. |
| 12:43.17 | Vlad| | probably |
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| 12:52.45 | karl_w_w | isn't that what we all dream about? |
| 12:56.37 | karl_w_w | rewinds time a lil bit |
| 12:56.58 | karl_w_w | now if you got valor for winning pvp pet battles at level 25, that would be a different matter |
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| 13:40.41 | SuperPortia|home | Morning al |
| 13:40.43 | SuperPortia|home | all |
| 13:41.18 | Sintacks | Al's not here. leave a message. |
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| 16:44.26 | Arazon | morning |
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| 17:20.53 | Arazon | Anyone know how to rotate a status bar's texture and orientation? |
| 17:21.51 | foxlit | have you tried using magic? |
| 17:22.08 | Arazon | yes but my wand snapped |
| 17:23.28 | foxlit | sounds unfortunate. |
| 17:24.15 | foxlit | anyway, statusbars support whatever limited set of features you can see from their methods |
| 17:24.34 | foxlit | If you need more than that, manage your own Texture objects. |
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| 17:34.14 | Vlad| | (%d+%.%d+) |
| 17:34.18 | Vlad| | to match a float value :D |
| 17:34.28 | Vlad| | I am so smrt |
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| 17:38.46 | Semlar | yes vlad |
| 17:39.08 | Semlar | gently pats vlad |
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| 18:41.15 | Kaedis | Anyone figured out a relatively reliable method to pull stats for an upgraded item? |
| 18:53.15 | Semlar | tooltip |
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| 18:55.28 | Semlar | kaedis: http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=45388 this might have something relevant |
| 19:05.29 | zenzelezz | having an audio issue with VLC currently (on linux)... VLC won't play audio on a video, claims codec is "mpga" and it has "no suitable audio decoder"; mplayer has no issue playing the audio. Anyone have any ideas? |
| 19:05.46 | zenzelezz | VLC plays on most, just not a couple with this apparent "mpga" codec |
| 19:06.48 | nevcairiel | short of "use another player", or "update vlc", there really arent many screws in that thing to turn :p |
| 19:07.23 | zenzelezz | used a precompiled VLC first, then compiled the whole thing manually, no dice |
| 19:08.09 | zenzelezz | if necessary I'll just hunt down another player as you say, but it annoys me that it just decided not to accept these =) |
| 19:08.10 | karl_w_w | use another player is pretty much always the best option with vlc |
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| 19:16.22 | Semlar | try mpc-hc |
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| 19:35.01 | Gnarfoz | since he mentioned mplayer, I doubt that's an option |
| 19:35.37 | Arazon | what event fires when your targets health changes? |
| 19:35.45 | Thunder_Child | as far as i know vlc uses an internal set of codecs so it's kind of an all or nothing prospect |
| 19:41.54 | Semlar | UNIT_HEALTH |
| 19:42.08 | Semlar | probably UNIT_HEALTH_FREQUENT |
| 19:42.39 | Semlar | arazon |
| 19:45.41 | Semlar | wow, i can't log into my insurance company's website in firefox |
| 19:46.14 | Semlar | they do some javascript checks when you try to log in that apparently don't actually work |
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| 19:47.19 | Semlar | this isn't some little company either, this is aetna |
| 19:48.46 | Arazon | Ok |
| 19:49.17 | Dagmar | That's okay, Google Communities are currently broken in Chrome, but work in Firefox. Stuff happens. |
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| 19:50.30 | Semlar | yeah but i'm trying to pay my bill and have to use internet explorer to do it, it's pretty annoying |
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| 19:50.55 | Semlar | also the fact that they don't provide an option to autobill me every month |
| 19:51.26 | Semlar | you have to *mail them a letter* to set up auto payments |
| 19:51.59 | Semlar | it's like they're going out of their way to make it harder to pay them |
| 19:52.24 | Dagmar | Uhhh sounds like they're maybe keeping the data off hte internet, although it's probably more to do with antiquation than due diligence |
| 19:52.46 | Semlar | they store my payment info though, when i log in all i have to do is click a few buttons for the payment to go through |
| 19:52.49 | Dagmar | Most places that take that information over the internet don't do a whole lot to take it *off the internet* afterwards |
| 19:53.19 | Arazon | How do you take something off the internet |
| 19:53.26 | Dagmar | The only "security" the EBT system has are the numbers you tell them. |
| 19:53.28 | Semlar | i'm this close to setting my bot up to autopay my bill for me |
| 19:53.50 | Dagmar | Arazon: You batch transfer it to something without a publicly routable IP address, at the bare minimum |
| 19:54.38 | Semlar | except ironically i usually use firebug to figure out what elements i need to scrape and i can't use firefox to log in |
| 19:55.36 | Semlar | i don't wanna do this by hand :\ |
| 19:57.25 | Arazon | arazenfr33zing |
| 19:57.43 | Arazon | Well thats just awkward |
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| 19:57.48 | Semlar | now you have to change your password |
| 19:58.09 | Arazon | Nah, that's one pwd combo for some random website I was signing into |
| 19:59.51 | Semlar | i should probably mention this chat is like recorded forever on internet archives |
| 20:00.33 | Semlar | at least if purl is here |
| 20:00.38 | Dagmar | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:00.59 | Semlar | yeah, next time you accidentally type your login information into the chat, start it with a space |
| 20:01.06 | Dagmar | :) |
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| 20:01.36 | Semlar | the bot ignores those lines |
| 20:02.15 | Arazon | ... |
| 20:02.23 | Arazon | Good grief |
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| 20:30.00 | kd3 | http://i.imgur.com/9fLNf.png |
| 20:30.06 | kd3 | ^ more true than I care to admit |
| 20:40.07 | Cairenn | lol |
| 20:46.46 | Fisker | The brrr of a thousand winters descend upon you kd3 |
| 20:47.02 | kd3 | glances outside |
| 20:47.09 | kd3 | it's ~16c atm |
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| 20:47.24 | Fisker | wait for it |
| 20:48.35 | Fisker | -10c here :( |
| 20:48.42 | Fisker | that's a lot of brrr |
| 21:02.14 | kd3 | >.<; You're the FAA and you've got a new system to help pilots avoid hitting mountains in bad weather and you need an acronym. Seriously, is WAM the best you could come up with? [Amusing] |
| 21:02.21 | kd3 | http://www.denverpost.com/business/ci_22118099/montrose-regional-airport-is-one-first-nation-new |
| 21:07.07 | ccox | Nobody said the FAA was without humor.... |
| 21:12.47 | kd3 | nobody said tigers don't like to have fun: http://i.imgur.com/aseFp.gif |
| 21:16.07 | ccox | boo! |
| 21:17.05 | Shirik | this article makes no sense whatsoever |
| 21:17.28 | Shirik | you don't land an airplane by radar |
| 21:18.27 | Shirik | ok the latter half of the article makes more sense |
| 21:18.32 | Shirik | it has nothing to do with landing the airplane |
| 21:18.35 | Shirik | it has to do with traffic management |
| 21:19.21 | ccox | assume the article was written by someone who knew nothing about aviation, and was just pulling some quotes and names from a press release written by someone else who had no idea what they were writing about. |
| 21:21.03 | Fisker | hey Shirik |
| 21:21.05 | Fisker | i hope you don't die |
| 21:21.14 | Shirik | hey Fisker |
| 21:21.16 | Shirik | thanks |
| 21:21.19 | ccox | and assume both of them were writing for an audience who thinks that the Kardashians are sophisticated |
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| 21:36.08 | tabletennis | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:36.27 | tabletennis | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:37.15 | tabletennis | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:38.16 | tabletennis | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:38.40 | durcyn | tabletennis: chatframe settings |
| 21:38.56 | tabletennis | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:39.16 | tabletennis | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:39.41 | tabletennis | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:41.06 | tabletennis | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:41.06 | durcyn | you have honor display turned on in that chat frame's config. right click on the tab and go to settings, it's under 'other'. |
| 21:41.12 | durcyn | it's not a cvar. |
| 21:41.54 | tabletennis | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:42.01 | tabletennis | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:42.24 | tabletennis | <PROTECTED> |
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| 22:29.43 | Vlad| | tabletennis: why using so huge chat font? |
| 22:31.57 | Semlar | http://i.imgur.com/AWr0g.jpg is that text no good |
| 22:32.20 | Vlad| | lol :D |
| 22:32.28 | Vlad| | lva guard gordoth font was a bit out of place? |
| 22:32.29 | Vlad| | :D |
| 22:32.31 | Vlad| | but looks nice |
| 22:32.44 | Semlar | it's the font they use in the journal |
| 22:32.52 | Vlad| | ah |
| 22:32.53 | Vlad| | then np |
| 22:33.03 | Vlad| | I use custom font so ;D haha |
| 22:38.08 | tabletennis | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:38.12 | Vlad| | :D |
| 22:38.13 | tabletennis | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:38.20 | Vlad| | I found you are missing a important addon |
| 22:38.29 | tabletennis | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:38.31 | Vlad| | http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/miniloot/ |
| 22:38.31 | tabletennis | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:38.36 | Vlad| | yes |
| 22:38.39 | tabletennis | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:39.00 | Semlar | http://i.imgur.com/qQrpk.jpg this is what it looks like with more items |
| 22:39.22 | Vlad| | is 18 the ilvl? is it needed? :o |
| 22:39.33 | Semlar | either you or somebody else wanted the item level |
| 22:39.33 | Vlad| | make it so you can hover the icons for tooltips :D |
| 22:39.39 | Semlar | already did that |
| 22:39.56 | Vlad| | ^^ |
| 22:40.57 | Semlar | http://i.imgur.com/63hdC.jpg |
| 22:41.18 | tabletennis | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:41.26 | tabletennis | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:41.32 | Vlad| | your tooltips were awesomely populated, Semlar :D |
| 22:41.34 | Vlad| | hmm |
| 22:41.39 | tabletennis | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:41.51 | tabletennis | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:41.52 | Vlad| | I can help you with that :P |
| 22:41.55 | Semlar | the pink text is some other addon i wrote |
| 22:42.01 | Vlad| | actually, tabletennis |
| 22:42.12 | Vlad| | I can give you an unreleased addon that I am "working" on :P |
| 22:42.18 | Vlad| | it basically handles rolling for you |
| 22:42.34 | tabletennis | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:42.34 | Vlad| | if you are alone and there is a BoP alert it auto accepts |
| 22:42.39 | Vlad| | yes |
| 22:42.41 | Vlad| | that is correct |
| 22:42.47 | tabletennis | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:42.57 | Vlad| | you have to do it like this |
| 22:43.29 | tabletennis | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:43.36 | tabletennis | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:43.37 | tabletennis | ? |
| 22:43.46 | Vlad| | actually I mixed it lol |
| 22:43.48 | Vlad| | I have a roll addon |
| 22:43.53 | Vlad| | but the one I was thinking of was my loot addon |
| 22:44.11 | Vlad| | when LootSlot is called any BOP items trigger LOOT_BIND_CONFIRM |
| 22:44.19 | Vlad| | the event has arg1 that is the index of the item slot |
| 22:44.29 | Vlad| | so you can do ConfirmLootSlot(arg1) |
| 22:44.51 | tabletennis | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:45.07 | Dark_Elf | i wish it would tap into the tradeskills, like cooking :p |
| 22:45.10 | Semlar | probably the equip slot |
| 22:45.29 | Semlar | like.. chest, ring |
| 22:45.41 | Vlad| | don't hate me tabletennis, but this is kind of old and working, not made for release :P |
| 22:45.44 | Vlad| | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:45.49 | tabletennis | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:46.00 | Vlad| | bags yes |
| 22:46.08 | tabletennis | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:46.10 | Semlar | oh i thought you were asking about something else |
| 22:46.14 | Semlar | nevermind |
| 22:46.25 | tabletennis | <PROTECTED> |
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| 22:47.12 | tabletennis | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:47.24 | tabletennis | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:47.24 | Vlad| | it's not ideal but it serves me |
| 22:47.31 | Vlad| | actually |
| 22:47.40 | tabletennis | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:47.43 | Vlad| | for you just look at this, limited to your request: <moment> |
| 22:50.05 | Vlad| | tabletennis: http://pastebin.com/KyemFjyV |
| 22:50.17 | tabletennis | .. |
| 22:51.03 | tabletennis | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:51.12 | tabletennis | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:51.38 | tabletennis | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:52.15 | Dark_Elf | looks like it autoselects the button for u |
| 22:52.49 | tabletennis | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:53.04 | tabletennis | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:53.18 | tabletennis | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:53.18 | chiel | man |
| 22:53.26 | chiel | where are all the darkshore cubs when you need them.. |
| 22:53.36 | tabletennis | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:53.36 | nevcairiel | i rescued them all |
| 22:53.49 | tabletennis | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:53.49 | chiel | :D |
| 22:54.11 | chiel | oh lol... a quick search on wowhead reveals i'm completely looking in the wrong part of darkshore :DDD |
| 22:54.55 | Dark_Elf | isnt that what the pet tracker addon is for? |
| 22:55.11 | chiel | fuck if I know :D |
| 22:55.40 | Dark_Elf | nevermind |
| 22:56.51 | chiel | in a pet battle, how does one see the quality of the pet your're facing? is that the colour of the portrait? |
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| 22:58.20 | nevcairiel | does the default ui show that now? |
| 22:58.36 | Semlar | i know you can use C_PetBattles.GetBreedQuality |
| 22:58.57 | chiel | it's supposed to yeah |
| 22:59.30 | Semlar | like C_PetBattles.GetBreedQuality(2,i) where i is 1 - C_PetBattles.GetNumPets(2) |
| 23:00.13 | chiel | yeah the border around the portrait seems to be the quality now. |
| 23:00.28 | chiel | only bloody poor quality darkshore cubs :( |
| 23:01.16 | Vlad| | Dark_Elf: did you comment on my pastey? |
| 23:01.31 | Vlad| | if you did, it actually tries to first find an existing popup first, if not then it triggers the API to confirm |
| 23:01.40 | Vlad| | just to avoid having a popup after the item is looted :) |
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| 23:03.48 | Dark_Elf | cool |
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| 23:05.45 | Vlad| | btw :D http://i.imgur.com/x4W95.jpg |
| 23:06.09 | Vlad| | did malygos earlier today and the addon I made properly logged the vehicle and the spells :D |
| 23:06.46 | chiel | which are more desirable spells btw for battle pets.. health, power or speed? |
| 23:06.46 | SuperPortia|roam | Is there a way to read the version of your add-on from the TOC file or some other API? |
| 23:06.57 | SuperPortia|roam | Depends on the pet |
| 23:07.06 | chiel | darkshore cub? :D |
| 23:07.09 | chiel | aka a beast |
| 23:07.10 | nevcairiel | !api version |
| 23:07.10 | lua_bot | Documentation for '_VERSION' can be found at http://www.lua.org/manual/5.1/manual.html#pdf-_VERSION |
| 23:07.16 | nevcairiel | meh |
| 23:07.26 | SuperPortia|roam | Pets that get benefits from going first want speed |
| 23:07.32 | SuperPortia|roam | Pets that get benefits for going last don't want speed |
| 23:07.40 | durcyn | darkshore cub has no speed based attacks |
| 23:07.42 | durcyn | so, no. |
| 23:07.45 | Vlad| | http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetAddOnMetadata |
| 23:07.52 | Vlad| | Portia you use GetAddOnMetadata |
| 23:08.07 | chiel | hmm |
| 23:08.14 | chiel | guess i should focus on geting a rare quality one first |
| 23:08.32 | Vlad| | there is no penalty upgrading it at 25 for example |
| 23:08.35 | SuperPortia|roam | For Darkmoon you want B/B or H/P |
| 23:08.37 | Vlad| | you don't loose any stats ;) |
| 23:08.58 | Vlad| | why can't we inspect each others pet teams? :( |
| 23:09.01 | chiel | i caught a few uncommon ones so far |
| 23:09.03 | Vlad| | or inspect other peoples pets |
| 23:13.14 | Vlad| | fought a random pet battle, 3 living flame lol |
| 23:13.16 | Vlad| | all blues |
| 23:13.24 | Vlad| | 1800 hp, I got greens with 1200 :( |
| 23:13.29 | Vlad| | nearly won :P |
| 23:19.09 | SuperPortia|roam | A lot of the data isn't even normally available to the client. |
| 23:19.13 | SuperPortia|roam | Add-ons mostly add it. |
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| 23:21.38 | SuperPortia|roam | I'm getting a problem where my data is incorrect on initial load, but works after a ./reloadui |
| 23:21.43 | Vlad| | this nolife leveled cinder kitten to 25 already |
| 23:21.44 | Vlad| | lol |
| 23:22.03 | SuperPortia|roam | You can level a pet to 25 pretty quickly. |
| 23:22.12 | chiel | is cinder kitten op? |
| 23:22.13 | SuperPortia|roam | Maybe 10-12 battles over three days |
| 23:23.02 | Vlad| | I notice that at least 1 pet is from the blizzard store |
| 23:23.07 | Vlad| | and usually those pets are a bit OP :P |
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| 23:24.26 | Vlad| | why can't we buy the pet stone things for JP? |
| 23:25.03 | SuperPortia|roam | You can buy the ones to bring them to uncommon quality |
| 23:26.05 | Vlad| | :/ |
| 23:26.07 | Vlad| | fuck that shit |
| 23:26.17 | Vlad| | I cba to do dailies and hope that my stone that has 5% drop chance is dropped |
| 23:26.17 | Vlad| | lol |
| 23:26.28 | Vlad| | excuse my french, but fuck you blizzard :P |
| 23:26.33 | nevcairiel | i had no issues catching blue pets |
| 23:26.53 | Vlad| | I cba to farm until I get lucky, rather pay 1500 JP and get a rare stone :P |
| 23:26.54 | nevcairiel | dont reflect your fail on some poor company |
| 23:27.32 | Vlad| | isn't that like saying it's my fault that the boss didn't drop the legendary item I am farming? :P |
| 23:27.33 | Vlad| | lol |
| 23:27.57 | nevcairiel | no, because you're saying "I'm too lazy to farm, they should let me buy all loot" |
| 23:28.01 | Vlad| | lol |
| 23:28.22 | Vlad| | what about pets you get as uncommon from items? :P |
| 23:28.28 | Vlad| | see, fail nevcairiel, fail |
| 23:28.35 | SuperPortia|roam | I would kill for the conditional operator. |
| 23:28.44 | nevcairiel | i dont even know what you just meant |
| 23:29.03 | SuperPortia|roam | Me or Vlad, nev? |
| 23:29.16 | Vlad| | not all pets are wild pets that you can farm rare :P |
| 23:29.49 | SuperPortia|roam | And that's what you can use the stones for. |
| 23:29.56 | Vlad| | yes |
| 23:29.56 | nevcairiel | not all items that drop are legendaries |
| 23:30.00 | Vlad| | and you gotta farm those, like 5% drop |
| 23:30.11 | Vlad| | just to be competative in pet battles :P |
| 23:30.20 | nevcairiel | you're just butthurt you didnt got the stones |
| 23:30.22 | SuperPortia|roam | You don't need every pet to be rare. |
| 23:30.27 | Vlad| | right |
| 23:30.38 | Vlad| | math speaking, if my wolvar is rare it gains like 200 hp :P |
| 23:30.42 | Vlad| | and more damage and speed |
| 23:30.46 | Vlad| | enough to make a difference |
| 23:30.48 | Vlad| | :P |
| 23:30.54 | nevcairiel | you get to use 3 pets, getting 3 decent rares is easy |
| 23:31.03 | SuperPortia|roam | You do need more than three. |
| 23:31.20 | SuperPortia|roam | But you need about 12. It's not hard to get those 12 rares. |
| 23:31.29 | nevcairiel | there is hundreds wild pets, getting them in rare isnt hard :P |
| 23:32.32 | Vlad| | nevcairiel: you are quite obnoxious to talk to sometimes, you know that? just consider what I just said ME the most obnoxious person here :P |
| 23:32.46 | nevcairiel | i just like trolling you, because you're a weirdo |
| 23:32.54 | Vlad| | and don't call me lazy beacause I only need 2 more pets for world safari :P |
| 23:33.04 | Vlad| | gotten like 5 blue stones, none that I need |
| 23:33.10 | nevcairiel | i dont care, your comments are those of a lazy person |
| 23:33.14 | Vlad| | lol |
| 23:33.18 | Vlad| | I got stuff to do |
| 23:33.26 | Bruners | agrees with nevcairiel |
| 23:33.27 | Vlad| | I cba to farm dailies each day for a minigame in a game :P |
| 23:33.34 | nevcairiel | then dont |
| 23:33.42 | nevcairiel | but also dont expect them to hand you the stuff isntead |
| 23:33.53 | Vlad| | 1500JP = handing the stuff |
| 23:33.54 | Vlad| | LOL |
| 23:34.11 | Vlad| | I never said the pet stable guy should improve all my pets to rare either :P |
| 23:34.22 | nevcairiel | JPs are practivally worthless |
| 23:34.25 | nevcairiel | use VPs if anything |
| 23:34.36 | Vlad| | lol |
| 23:34.41 | SuperPortia|roam | 1500. I thought 1000 |
| 23:35.00 | Vlad| | nevcairiel is just trolling on purpose :P |
| 23:35.18 | nevcairiel | no, i'm serious, JPs are worthless, you can't get anything good with them |
| 23:35.19 | mikma | oh wow, Jumanji remake |
| 23:35.30 | Vlad| | nevcairiel: you aren't doing heroic farms? why not? every item you buy with VP should cost 3000VP and JP should be removed from the game, it's so easy already! |
| 23:35.54 | Vlad| | lol you don't got full 550 ilvl set already? lol l2p invest more time in the game like normal gamers |
| 23:35.58 | mikma | and new tron |
| 23:36.23 | nevcairiel | Vlad|: i never said you need to invest more time, i just said you shouldn't expect Blizzard to help you when you don't want to |
| 23:38.03 | nevcairiel | besides, pet battles and pve stuff aren't really linked much at all, so offering pet battle things for JPs or VPs would favor high-level players, which is something they didn't want for the pets |
| 23:38.16 | Vlad| | I don't expect help, I just expect to invest some useless JP into something more useful like a rare upgrade stone for pets :P |
| 23:38.18 | chiel | is there any way in game to get a spell id? |
| 23:38.32 | Vlad| | from a spell name? tough luck |
| 23:38.35 | Vlad| | many spells got same name :P |
| 23:38.43 | chiel | hmm |
| 23:38.45 | mikma | lol. Tr2n |
| 23:38.53 | Vlad| | if you know the spell, sure |
| 23:38.58 | chiel | i want to make a cooldown icon for mortal strike |
| 23:40.01 | chiel | not really sure where to start :) |
| 23:40.17 | chiel | ideally i want it to show with a cooldown spiral thingy on it |
| 23:40.19 | Vlad| | nevcairiel: http://www.wowhead.com/item=92742 |
| 23:40.46 | Vlad| | take that to your "pet battles have nothing to do with pve thus the stones shouldn't be something you buy with pve currency" God :P |
| 23:41.07 | nevcairiel | uncommon isn't really all that special though |
| 23:41.25 | Vlad| | you are such a hypocrite :P |
| 23:41.45 | nevcairiel | not really, there is still a big difference |
| 23:41.51 | nevcairiel | if there wasnt, you would be happy to buy those stones |
| 23:42.20 | Vlad| | 2k JP for a rare stone I'd be happy, nothing else to use the JP for and I don't see a problem with that :P |
| 23:42.51 | nebula169 | kind of sad they took out the buying of tradeskill items with jp |
| 23:43.30 | chiel | is there any way already in the game to show an icon of a spell with a cooldown spiral on top of it? |
| 23:43.32 | Vlad| | btw what's up with that blizzard store pets are rare, why isn't it uncommon? |
| 23:44.03 | nevcairiel | i dont even know what you can buy with JPs, i know there is no gear on heroic dungeon level like in previous expansion, so i didnt bother with them at all :p |
| 23:44.17 | chiel | JPs are essentially useless |
| 23:44.20 | chiel | you can buy heirlooms |
| 23:44.22 | chiel | that's about it |
| 23:44.29 | chiel | and a few ~450 ilvl items, iirc |
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| 23:45.43 | nevcairiel | at least you can upgrade 463 gear with them now |
| 23:45.47 | nevcairiel | some limited use |
| 23:45.48 | durcyn | i believe they were bumped to 458, still junk though |
| 23:48.57 | chiel | ah k |
| 23:48.59 | chiel | yeah |
| 23:49.10 | mikma | cairenn|afk: http://www.break.com/index/the-best-slight-of-hand-youll-see-today-2394297 |
| 23:49.15 | chiel | i guess it's ok if you're wanting to get into heroics and didn't do dread wastes or townlong or something. |
| 23:49.48 | Vlad| | why are some pet items blue but once learned the pet is green? |
| 23:49.54 | Vlad| | why not have it consistend with the pet rarity :P |
| 23:49.56 | Vlad| | just weird hehe |
| 23:50.09 | Vlad| | like having a legendary pet item that gives you a poor pet ;D |
| 23:50.12 | nevcairiel | chiel: easy enough to buy a full set of 450 pvp items |
| 23:51.54 | nevcairiel | since the pvp stats are not in the item budget anymore, its actually quite good entry-level gear |
| 23:52.04 | Ackis | first attempt at doing the dance on emporers and I got hit by all three lol |
| 23:54.35 | SuperPortia|roam | Vlad: because the rarity choice for the item was picked years ago and they didn't want to change it. But they also didn't want all those pets to be rare because otherwise wild pets wouldn't be nearly as useful. |
| 23:54.47 | Vlad| | not quite |
| 23:54.58 | Vlad| | for instance the tailor moth pets are blue but green when learned |
| 23:55.01 | Vlad| | and that was added in 5.1 :D |
| 23:55.33 | nevcairiel | there were rumors that some of such pets are actually of random quality |
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