| 00:00.22 | End_ | overwrites pompy with all zeroes. |
| 00:01.35 | pompy | hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm |
| 00:01.37 | BroncoB | gives Arrowmaster and pompy NTFS lessons, to return their help |
| 00:02.01 | pompy | ppl use format and reformat interchangeably .. makes me mad! |
| 00:02.37 | Vlad| | I use fat64 |
| 00:02.50 | Arrowmaster | i ran into some fat12 partitions today |
| 00:02.50 | pompy | fat128 here |
| 00:03.05 | foxlit | I'm sure there's a joke there |
| 00:03.54 | durcyn | it's not polite to joke about weight or filesystems |
| 00:04.25 | foxlit | http://www.go-hero.net/i/jqf-sunsong.jpg << seems to look okay. |
| 00:04.41 | Vlad| | good foxlit, good |
| 00:06.07 | Arrowmaster | well thats stupid, win8 is telling me my pc will restart in 2 days to apply updates, and the shutdown menu option for restart changes to apply updates and restart |
| 00:06.20 | Arrowmaster | but shuting down and restarting doesnt apply updates |
| 00:07.00 | Vlad| | lol? |
| 00:07.20 | durcyn | foxlit: as long as it has an LDB feed and not just a chat message. |
| 00:07.43 | Arrowmaster | also having the function keys on Fn is really annoying when trying to get into the bios |
| 00:12.10 | foxlit | durcyn: :( |
| 00:13.05 | Arrowmaster | i still need to come up with a name for my new laptop |
| 00:13.29 | foxlit | is it really something that you'd constantly want on your screen? |
| 00:17.26 | durcyn | a mouseover rather than a slash command? yes. |
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| 01:14.47 | Jammer | where was the addon fixing LFD progress |
| 01:15.16 | durcyn | nowhere, the bug turned out to be deliberate |
| 01:15.41 | Jammer | oh |
| 01:16.16 | Jammer | well that's just ... stupid :/ |
| 01:16.40 | Jammer | I'm not gonna do fresh run just to get to a final boss I'm missing |
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| 01:20.18 | SuperPortia | Anyone know how to get the current mounted mount other than iterating through GetCompanionInfo? |
| 01:22.02 | durcyn | Jammer: the upshot is, if you complete a partial, you're guaranteed a fresh copy on your next queue. so you can then abandon it and create another partial, and the cycle of suck continues |
| 01:23.04 | Adys | what's the fastest way to get valor points, solo? |
| 01:23.12 | Adys | dailies, heroics, scenarios? |
| 01:24.31 | End_ | due to the bonus for the first of each day, I think it's going to be some combination |
| 01:24.44 | Adys | ive done the first ones |
| 01:24.45 | Adys | and full lfr |
| 01:24.51 | End_ | then I dunno |
| 01:25.05 | Jammer | durcyn: yes but now I actually want to get the last boss and not a fresh run :p |
| 01:25.06 | SuperPortia | Really it depends on if you have a secondary goal |
| 01:25.22 | Adys | my goal is to get as close to the cap as possible before reboot :P |
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| 01:41.48 | SuperPortia | Is there a way to get a table by index that was originally keyed by non-integer values? |
| 01:43.15 | Semlar | what |
| 01:44.01 | SuperPortia | So I create a table with table = { }; table["a"] = "A"; table["b"] = ["B"]; |
| 01:44.04 | SuperPortia | Can I say table[1]? |
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| 01:45.20 | Semlar | no |
| 01:45.40 | Semlar | table[1] is not defined |
| 01:47.06 | Semlar | why do you want to do that |
| 01:48.48 | SuperPortia | Well I have the table indexed by SpellID, but I also want to iterate over it in order. |
| 01:48.51 | SuperPortia | But I think I found around it. |
| 01:48.54 | SuperPortia | a way around it. |
| 01:49.09 | Semlar | what order |
| 01:49.20 | Semlar | you can call table.sort on it |
| 01:51.09 | SuperPortia | Well ultimately I'm going to have a do a multi-part sort. First by favorite, then by owned. |
| 01:51.10 | Semlar | or use a second table |
| 01:51.29 | SuperPortia | I decided to use spellID for everything instead of index. |
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| 02:16.48 | Stanzilla | http://mashable.com/2012/12/04/white-house-death-star/ < so good |
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| 02:37.36 | SuperPortia | Is there a way to do ContainsValue? |
| 02:37.42 | SuperPortia | To see if the table contains the value? |
| 02:43.08 | Arrowmaster | i think i figured out what ill name the new laptop |
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| 02:48.20 | Stanzilla | Arrowmaster: Arrow Up or Arrow Down? |
| 02:52.46 | kd3 | madoka would be my guess |
| 02:52.59 | SuperPortia | Does table.sort sort based on keys or values? |
| 02:53.16 | Arrowmaster | kd3: neito |
| 02:53.30 | kd3 | heh |
| 02:53.47 | Arrowmaster | which works well since its a silver laptop |
| 02:54.47 | Arrowmaster | SuperPortia: table.sort sorts arrays based on value |
| 02:55.15 | SuperPortia | But not diciontaries. |
| 02:55.36 | Arrowmaster | right, though they are typically referred to as hash tables vs arrays |
| 02:55.40 | SuperPortia | Is there a way to sort dictionaries? |
| 02:55.45 | SuperPortia | hash tables? |
| 02:55.45 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 02:55.54 | SuperPortia | They're always sorted by key? |
| 02:56.01 | Arrowmaster | they arent sorted at all |
| 02:56.07 | SuperPortia | Cute. |
| 02:57.47 | Dagmar | Hashes are _never_ sorted. That's somewhat the point of them. |
| 02:58.17 | Dagmar | If the keys were something easily sortable, or for which sorting hed any useful meaning, you'd be using an array |
| 02:59.30 | SuperPortia | I don't want to sort the hash by key, I want to sort it by value. |
| 02:59.41 | SuperPortia | Lookup versus iteration. |
| 03:00.38 | Dagmar | http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2038418/associatively-sorting-a-table-by-value-in-lua |
| 03:00.43 | Arrowmaster | i think you need to explain better what you are doing |
| 03:01.08 | Dagmar | That's the first time I've wondered about that in lua. It's pretty much the same type of operation in perl. You just call a custom sort function. |
| 03:02.55 | SuperPortia | Dagmar, that's pretty much what I was looking for. |
| 03:04.08 | Dagmar | That's what I figured after the last thing you said |
| 03:04.17 | SuperPortia | So to create the index I would iterate over it for index, value in ipairs(myTable) do index[value[indexKey]] = value end |
| 03:04.30 | SuperPortia | for index, value in ipairs(myTable) do index[value[indexKey]] = value end |
| 03:04.53 | SuperPortia | myIndex[value[indexKey]] = value\ |
| 03:06.07 | Dagmar | I figured you'd just use the first solution on the page |
| 03:06.11 | Semlar | superportia: http://i.imgur.com/EfkM9.gif |
| 03:06.26 | Semlar | it's beautiful |
| 03:07.47 | SuperPortia | That is beautiful |
| 03:07.56 | SuperPortia | Were you reading about the sorting? |
| 03:08.11 | Semlar | no |
| 03:08.26 | Dagmar | THey understate something about hashes on that page tho.... Someone mentions the hash order (hah) "may be stable", but what it amounts to is that the "order" you get elements of a hash back is subject to change at pretty much any time |
| 03:09.01 | SuperPortia | In order to sort the resulting hash you have to have an array and not a hash |
| 03:09.25 | SuperPortia | So { ["abc"] = "def", ["ghi"] = "jkl" } won't work. |
| 03:09.31 | Dagmar | Yes, you have to copy the entire thing into a list-context thing |
| 03:09.59 | Semlar | just make a table {} and tinsert all the values, sort that and use it as an index |
| 03:10.12 | SuperPortia | Instead we need { { p1 = "abc", p2 = "def" }, { p1 = "ghi", p2 = "jkl" } } |
| 03:10.45 | SuperPortia | I'll probably do that for now. |
| 03:10.55 | Dagmar | It has to be re-stored in an array with ordered indices. |
| 03:11.23 | Dagmar | I don't see a real big problem with using table.sort with a custom sort function |
| 03:11.39 | Arrowmaster | i prefer to use a normal hash table and then an array storying the keys of the hash table |
| 03:11.48 | Semlar | ^ |
| 03:11.51 | Dagmar | Yep. That'll work as well |
| 03:14.11 | Dagmar | I hesitate to recommend this, because if you have to do it, you have somehow angered to gods, but if you're having to do that _and_ add/remove items frequently, it might be better to just roll your own linked list |
| 03:15.04 | Dagmar | er s/angered to/angered the/ |
| 03:16.50 | Dagmar | ...but hash storage optimization is the sort of thing Greek gods make people do for punishment. |
| 03:21.24 | SuperPortia | I'm good. |
| 03:21.33 | SuperPortia | function MountDatabase:Sort() print('Sorting...') local names = {} for spellID, _ in pairs(MountDB) do local _, name = MountDatabase:GetMountInfo(spellID) names[spellID] = name table.insert(MountDatabaseIndex, spellID) end table.sort(MountDatabaseIndex, function(a, b) return names[a] < names[b] end) end |
| 03:21.59 | SuperPortia | That could be better formatted. Hold on |
| 03:23.02 | SuperPortia | http://pastebin.com/arjYwFzL |
| 03:23.33 | SuperPortia | Create a look-up for the values, create an array of indexes and then sort the array based on that look-up. |
| 03:23.35 | Semlar | couldn't you do like MountDB[a].name < MountDB[b].name or something |
| 03:23.49 | SuperPortia | MountDB doesn't have name properties. |
| 03:23.59 | Semlar | oh right |
| 03:24.08 | SuperPortia | I only do the sort once. |
| 03:24.28 | SuperPortia | I could build out the cache. I guess it's a persistent memory vs. whatever thing. |
| 03:24.47 | SuperPortia | Though I've also realized I need to find a way to remove mounts that are the other side only. |
| 03:25.04 | Semlar | i'm not actually sure my display id list is complete |
| 03:25.13 | Semlar | i need to check some things |
| 03:25.37 | SuperPortia | Also getting rid of certain things like: http://www.wowdb.com/spells/86579-wooden-raft |
| 03:26.33 | SuperPortia | I particularly like the View in 3D for that. |
| 03:26.52 | SuperPortia | What nice teeth it has for my wooden raft. |
| 03:26.58 | Semlar | is this something that can be filtered out |
| 03:27.55 | SuperPortia | Some of it's probably just going to have to be a blacklist that's maintained. |
| 03:28.26 | Semlar | well it's not in the mount items list |
| 03:28.40 | SuperPortia | No, but not everything is. |
| 03:28.49 | SuperPortia | I don't think the warlock or paladin mounts are. |
| 03:28.59 | SuperPortia | Also is there anything in there that talks about side? |
| 03:29.17 | Semlar | races |
| 03:29.27 | SuperPortia | Oh? Just on the item or also on the spell? |
| 03:29.32 | SuperPortia | I'm guessing just on the item. |
| 03:29.37 | Semlar | the item |
| 03:29.51 | SuperPortia | Well that's a start. |
| 03:30.08 | SuperPortia | It's probably another flag we'll have to add. I don't know if there are any race specific mounts anymore. |
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| 03:31.37 | SuperPortia | There are also a number of duplicates. It'll be interesting to figure out if both or only one is real. |
| 03:31.49 | SuperPortia | It's possible it's two versions of the same mount for the two different sides. |
| 03:32.43 | SuperPortia | Though for some, there are like four versions. |
| 03:33.54 | SuperPortia | So stage 2 mostly works. |
| 03:34.10 | SuperPortia | You can see all the mounts you don't have and click on them and view them in the 3D viewer. |
| 03:34.42 | Arrowmaster | i dont think this attempt is going to end well, df shows ive only got 200mb free on the flash drive im trying to install debian to but the progress bar is only half way |
| 03:35.00 | Semlar | maybe the other half is smaller |
| 03:35.09 | Arrowmaster | i hope |
| 03:35.31 | Arrowmaster | its kinda funny that the automated installer made the swap partition larger than the data partition |
| 03:36.35 | Dagmar | How large did it make swap? |
| 03:37.32 | Dagmar | You can _get_ a system into 200Mb, but most people wouldn't find it useful |
| 03:37.55 | Dagmar | Now might be a good time to take a close look at what it's done |
| 03:38.20 | Arrowmaster | a little over 4gb |
| 03:38.55 | Arrowmaster | lvs is reporting 2.86g for data and 3.89g for swap |
| 03:39.22 | SuperPortia | Semlar, I have to wonder if some of these are mounts cast during events/instances/combat, |
| 03:39.36 | Semlar | well, it is every mount spell in the game |
| 03:40.33 | Semlar | obtainable or not |
| 03:40.49 | Arrowmaster | Dagmar: i wanted to install to this flash drive to test the hardware before wiping the new hdd but i dont think this is going to work |
| 03:40.57 | Dagmar | It made swap probably way too big because of the amount of RAM you have |
| 03:41.05 | Arrowmaster | yeah 4gb of ram |
| 03:41.18 | Dagmar | The good news is that you can fix that on the fly |
| 03:41.46 | Dagmar | Pause it a moment, swapoff, shrink swap and re-prep it, and then you can enlarge the ext filesystem on the fly |
| 03:42.08 | Dagmar | I've used resize2fs enough to trust it now |
| 03:42.18 | Arrowmaster | or maybe ill just do it again but not install the graphical user env |
| 03:42.31 | Dagmar | I doubt that will prevent the oversized swap from happening |
| 03:42.49 | Arrowmaster | its already installed gimp, libreoffice, and now its installing mono |
| 03:42.58 | Dagmar | Jesus |
| 03:43.09 | Dagmar | Those last two are like a half gig |
| 03:43.15 | Arrowmaster | fucking gnome3 |
| 03:43.31 | Dagmar | Yep |
| 03:43.48 | Dagmar | I'm still elbow deep in trying to pare that down into something less insane |
| 03:44.04 | Dagmar | I may just say fuck it and go look and see what Mate is doing |
| 03:44.11 | Arrowmaster | i found out MATE has their own debian repos so i might just install that |
| 03:45.08 | Dagmar | Yeah, I've been told that basically when GNOME3 started going sideways with GNOME shell and Unity they just forked the stuff |
| 03:45.56 | Arrowmaster | gnome 3.8 is removing the fallback session |
| 03:46.16 | Dagmar | That's such a middle-finger move |
| 03:46.26 | Arrowmaster | that looks kinda like gnome2 but isnt, even though it does have some features from gnome2 that were removed in gnome3....... |
| 03:47.17 | Arrowmaster | i was WTFing when i found out i could setup different world clocks in the fallback session like i had in gnome2 but theres nothing at all to do that in gnome3 |
| 03:47.35 | Arrowmaster | why the hell does that still exist in the fallback session if they killed the feature |
| 03:48.13 | Dagmar | Those objects can each have their own settings |
| 03:50.11 | Dagmar | One of the extremely OO things that was happening was that settings could be in system-scope, or user-scope, or instance-scope |
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| 03:50.37 | Dagmar | I think it might have driven a few of them mad tho'. |
| 04:06.04 | Adys | It makes me happy that an arm of the US government has, in some official capacity, issued an opinion on the subject of firing nuclear missiles into hurricanes. |
| 04:10.50 | Dagmar | Most of the people involved probably figured it was a thought exercise |
| 04:10.56 | Adys | I’m curious what tactical advantage you’re expecting to gain by having the high explosive fly back at you if it misses the target. |
| 04:11.52 | Dagmar | You get a cool landmark? |
| 04:11.58 | Dagmar | It's not like the things go off if you drop them. |
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| 04:21.58 | SuperPortia | How do you upload an add-on into Curse? And can you keep it private? |
| 04:22.12 | Dagmar | I don't think you can keep them private |
| 04:23.58 | SuperPortia | Anyone know if you can fight more than one pet grand master a day? |
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| 05:04.28 | Semlar | superportia is there anything in http://www.wowdb.com/api/item/89154 you actually want |
| 05:06.27 | SuperPortia | In terms of the item? |
| 05:06.49 | kd3 | in terms of information provided by the api |
| 05:07.53 | SuperPortia | I would eventually like the accurate seller and cost information. |
| 05:07.59 | Semlar | it's not in there |
| 05:07.59 | SuperPortia | But I imagine that's going to be difficult. |
| 05:08.25 | kd3 | that's only visible in-game by talking to npcs. if only it actually /was/ in the dbcs... |
| 05:08.36 | Semlar | the only cost information is in gold which is probably calculated from the vendor price |
| 05:09.18 | SuperPortia | Probably |
| 05:09.28 | Semlar | they have some information on the html version of the page but i don't know about accuracy |
| 05:09.35 | SuperPortia | I'm not sure if UsableByClassBitmask would be useful here. |
| 05:10.11 | Semlar | i have the item id, the spell id and the display id |
| 05:11.40 | SuperPortia | Right now the biggest defect the add-on has is that it's pulling in way too many invalid add-ons. Finding a way to effectively cull the list will be useful. |
| 05:12.41 | SuperPortia | Finding sources for things will also be useful, but I think that's going to require manually adding data. |
| 05:12.58 | SuperPortia | Finding a way to manage this data in another format where we can play around with it might be useful. |
| 05:13.04 | Semlar | well, i can pull the source out of the page but it's going to be a little complicated |
| 05:13.20 | SuperPortia | I'm looking to so this in stages. |
| 05:13.47 | SuperPortia | I think we've made good progress so far. |
| 05:16.11 | SuperPortia | I'm trying to upload it to WoWInterface. |
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| 05:17.26 | SuperPortia | I figure as long as I don't advertise it, I can just keep it there for beta testers. |
| 05:19.44 | SuperPortia | Anyone know how long it takes to get these things up there? |
| 05:20.00 | kd3 | on wowi? minutes, generally |
| 05:20.08 | Semlar | to get approved? |
| 05:20.13 | kd3 | yah |
| 05:20.15 | Semlar | it can take like a day |
| 05:20.21 | kd3 | on bad days |
| 05:20.31 | kd3 | poke staff in here and it can take seconds |
| 05:21.13 | Semlar | also not advertising it isn't going to stop anyone from downloading it |
| 05:22.18 | SuperPortia | Are there people out there who just take almost unused add-ons for a spin? |
| 05:22.53 | Semlar | they browse wowi and see it and download it |
| 05:22.58 | kd3 | that's how addons generally get started... |
| 05:23.35 | Semlar | well think about how you find addons |
| 05:23.46 | SuperPortia | I look for popular ones and ones that are recommended. |
| 05:23.49 | kd3 | browsing the /new feed |
| 05:24.31 | karl_w_w | i learned pretty early on that looking for popular addons is a great way to find bad addons |
| 05:26.02 | SuperPortia | For example? |
| 05:26.17 | kd3 | points to history with KTM |
| 05:26.22 | Semlar | carbonite |
| 05:26.24 | SuperPortia | KTM? |
| 05:26.40 | kd3 | k<something> threat meter |
| 05:26.43 | SuperPortia | Yeah, but just being popular doesn't make me download, but it does make me look at it. |
| 05:26.51 | kd3 | the first (written back in the 1.8ish) days |
| 05:26.56 | kd3 | omen was written as a reaction to it |
| 05:27.03 | Semlar | erg |
| 05:27.12 | Semlar | now i know what you're talking about |
| 05:27.35 | SuperPortia | Something Threat Meter |
| 05:27.40 | Semlar | why is your example like 4 years old |
| 05:27.50 | karl_w_w | recount anybody? |
| 05:27.56 | kd3 | first one that came to mind |
| 05:28.01 | SuperPortia | What's a better version of recount? |
| 05:28.06 | nebula169 | it was KLH |
| 05:28.17 | karl_w_w | i still miss damagemeters |
| 05:28.22 | karl_w_w | that was the best addon |
| 05:28.24 | Semlar | there are other damage meters that aren't quite so bloated |
| 05:28.55 | Semlar | although i usually used recount anyway because it kept track of other things i was interested in |
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| 06:11.21 | Mr_Rabies | welp |
| 06:11.29 | Mr_Rabies | just did the last boss in HoF on LFR....mostly naked |
| 06:11.37 | Mr_Rabies | only rings, trinkets, etc equipped |
| 06:11.41 | Mr_Rabies | stuff without durability |
| 06:11.54 | Mr_Rabies | still managed about 12-15k |
| 06:11.54 | Mr_Rabies | lol |
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| 06:28.55 | acethebunny | lol servers died |
| 06:28.56 | acethebunny | ALL OF THEM |
| 06:28.59 | acethebunny | lol |
| 06:29.07 | nebula169 | whoa |
| 06:29.12 | nebula169 | that's pretty crazy |
| 06:29.31 | Primer | hrmm, battle.net seems to have blown up |
| 06:30.02 | Primer | I was immediately disconnected, now I can't login |
| 06:30.05 | End_ | oh |
| 06:30.07 | End_ | so it's not just me |
| 06:30.09 | End_ | hah |
| 06:30.31 | Sintacks | I'm logging back in now.. but blue bar. so not sure if i'm actually going to make it in |
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| 06:31.08 | pompy | ok that explains why i tabbed back in to the login screen |
| 06:31.13 | bluspacecow | dang |
| 06:31.22 | bluspacecow | US realms go down for anyone else ? |
| 06:31.25 | End_ | YUP |
| 06:31.27 | End_ | whoa |
| 06:31.29 | End_ | hello caps lock |
| 06:31.31 | End_ | how are you |
| 06:31.33 | End_ | I AM FINE |
| 06:31.34 | pompy | same |
| 06:31.44 | bluspacecow | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:31.48 | End_ | ;p |
| 06:31.53 | Primer | it just came back |
| 06:32.05 | bluspacecow | right now ? |
| 06:32.12 | Primer | I'm back in |
| 06:32.19 | End_ | I'm still stuck on connecting, but it might be a good time for me to go to bed anyway |
| 06:32.58 | bluspacecow | Primer did you have to flush your DNS cache or anything ? |
| 06:34.02 | End_ | all servers might not be up |
| 06:34.29 | End_ | it gets far enough to ask me which account at least |
| 06:34.34 | pompy | the login end isnt evengoing thru |
| 06:34.37 | bluspacecow | mines back up |
| 06:34.42 | bluspacecow | just had to wait a liddle bit |
| 06:34.54 | nebula169 | i just left it at connecting, went through after a bit |
| 06:34.59 | End_ | there it goes |
| 06:35.03 | bluspacecow | yeah mine too |
| 06:35.33 | pompy | im in |
| 06:37.27 | Primer | bluspacecow: no |
| 06:38.32 | Primer | There's an alert up now |
| 06:40.36 | pompy | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert |
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| 07:42.40 | Arazon | Could someone help me with something? |
| 07:43.37 | durcyn | asking less vague questions? i'm sure we can. |
| 07:45.44 | Arazon | I apologize, chat seemed dead. More specifically, http://pastebin.com/SeLu1yWg is my XML file, http://pastebin.com/KEebtdBR is my .lua file. I have included both in my .toc file. |
| 07:46.39 | Arazon | Error I am receiving is: [string "MyFrame_Button:OnClick"]:2: attempt to call global `Button_OnClick' (A nil value) |
| 07:47.09 | Arazon | That would be on a click. I'm sort of new to this so please don't hate on a new guy o.O |
| 07:47.14 | iShirik | Button_OnClick does not exist |
| 07:47.41 | Arazon | It's in my Unit_Frame.lua file, included in my toc |
| 07:47.44 | iShirik | Oh |
| 07:47.48 | iShirik | It can't be local |
| 07:48.10 | Arazon | Why not? Not trying to dispute, but I'm just curious |
| 07:48.37 | iShirik | Local means it is only accessible in the current scope. In that context it means "in the current file" |
| 07:48.46 | Arazon | You're right- removed "local", it worked. |
| 07:49.44 | iShirik | That being said I would greatly appreciate using a name that is less likely to conflict with another addon :) |
| 07:50.39 | Arazon | Is there a way to make the button click script private and call it from within a higher-order script? or is that just nonsense |
| 07:50.57 | Arazon | nonsense/not common practice |
| 07:51.02 | iShirik | My answer would be to not use XML |
| 07:51.16 | Arazon | Really? |
| 07:51.42 | durcyn | !api CreateFrame |
| 07:51.43 | lua_bot | CreateFrame: Creates a new Frame object (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/CreateFrame) |
| 07:51.47 | durcyn | really |
| 07:52.00 | iShirik | You can also set the OnClick script from the Lua file |
| 07:53.22 | karl_w_w | using xml usually just complicates things |
| 07:53.41 | Arazon | Ok it was getting slightly problematic to be honest |
| 07:53.49 | Arazon | Slightly relieved theres a better way |
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| 08:22.17 | Arazon | What am I missing from http://pastebin.com/EssUzdna to have it show on a reload? |
| 08:23.13 | zenzio | does it work the first time you log in, just not when you /reload ? |
| 08:24.21 | Arazon | not working on a login |
| 08:24.32 | Arazon | attempting client restart |
| 08:24.48 | Arazon | Not on a restart either |
| 08:25.29 | zenzio | so it doesn't work at all right now? |
| 08:25.34 | Arazon | at all |
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| 08:26.02 | Arazon | Its in a LUA file, the lua file has been included in the toc |
| 08:26.08 | Arazon | Im stumped lol |
| 08:26.21 | Arazon | im sure its something basic |
| 08:26.50 | zenzio | been a while since I did this, but try calling UF_Frame:Show() |
| 08:27.04 | zenzio | I think frames are by default hidden, but it might be the other way around |
| 08:27.15 | Arazon | Still not workin |
| 08:27.32 | Arazon | hmm |
| 08:27.38 | zenzio | do you get any errors at all? |
| 08:27.41 | Arazon | Nope |
| 08:27.55 | Arazon | Out of curiosity, is SetPoint() the function I use to set the anchor points? |
| 08:28.25 | zenzio | yes |
| 08:28.56 | zenzio | but now that you mention it, you seem to be making a very small frame |
| 08:29.19 | zenzio | and you've not set a width or a right coordinate, try using BOTTOMRIGHT (or add a :SetWidth()) |
| 08:29.27 | zenzio | oh wait, I'm blind |
| 08:29.43 | zenzio | got fooled by things not being in "my" order of calls |
| 08:30.05 | zenzio | but it's still a very small frame, is it meant to be? |
| 08:30.47 | Arazon | I decided to take finals week to go ahead and learn how to do Wow Addon programming, don't judge me please lol. No, I can make it bigger :-) |
| 08:31.01 | Arazon | Still not seein it |
| 08:31.21 | zenzio | I'm not judging you at all :) Just trying to figure things out while at work, with my shoddy memory =D |
| 08:32.14 | Arazon | Am I using any functions added in wrath or later? |
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| 08:41.20 | Arazon | k I've narrowed it down to the backdrop |
| 08:44.16 | Arazon | figured it out |
| 08:44.27 | Arazon | my paths didn't have double "\"s |
| 08:44.33 | Arazon | AHHH |
| 08:44.37 | Arazon | craziness |
| 08:46.43 | kurapica | use [[ interface\xxx\xxx ]] will keep these error out |
| 08:49.51 | Arazon | now ive got a super thin frame with the top edge where the bottom should be and vice versa. Is there a function to set offsets for edges? |
| 08:50.45 | Arazon | nvm got it |
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| 09:29.06 | Arazon | Is it alright to use CreateTexture() to add a texture to a frame, or is there a better way? |
| 09:29.14 | AcidWeb | Sigh. Someday ppl will understand that "Dont work" is not good bug report. |
| 09:29.22 | AcidWeb | 10 sec later universe will explode. |
| 09:31.00 | Arazon | Was that directed in my general vicinity? I still can't tell |
| 09:31.56 | AcidWeb | No ;p |
| 09:32.22 | AcidWeb | That was general rant Another-Bug-In-My-Addon-That-I-Can't-Replicate-Myself |
| 09:33.06 | Arazon | Well that sucks |
| 09:33.21 | Arazon | On the plus side, I didn't sleep at a Holiday Inn tonight? |
| 09:33.30 | kurapica | Only Frame:CreateTexture can create texture |
| 09:33.42 | AcidWeb | Sometimes I think why i even bother considering i dont play WoW anymore. |
| 09:34.30 | nevcairiel | i stopped bothering with those bugs without details a long time ago. i usually ask to provide more details, and if they dont, and i cant reproduce it, i just close it as invalid |
| 09:36.01 | AcidWeb | Yep. |
| 09:37.04 | AcidWeb | But some of them are still there and that irritates me. If I did not know about this errors I would sleep peacefully :P |
| 09:37.47 | Arazon | The way I see it, if there are no details, there is no bug. It's a bug if it's consistently replicated. If not consistent, chalk it up to radiation flipping bits |
| 09:39.04 | AcidWeb | Currently im fixing PVP frame taint that is caused by my addon but I it dont taint my UI. |
| 09:39.10 | AcidWeb | I just love this type of errors. |
| 09:39.22 | Arazon | Ouch |
| 09:39.45 | Arazon | the kind where you can only replicate it if you enter a set of specific conditions that takes 20-30 mins between events? |
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| 09:43.10 | AcidWeb | Nah that part is easy. |
| 09:43.29 | Arazon | K Now I'm legitimately scared. |
| 09:43.31 | AcidWeb | Debugging PVP/BG errors is much worse. |
| 09:44.00 | nevcairiel | no |
| 09:44.11 | nevcairiel | much worse are action bar errors that only happen in one specific raid encounter |
| 09:44.23 | AcidWeb | k |
| 09:44.28 | AcidWeb | You won. |
| 09:44.46 | nevcairiel | fuck those bosses that behave differently than everything else in the world |
| 09:45.03 | AcidWeb | Best part of debuging PVP/BG addons is ignoring the people who call you "moron" when you idle on battleground ;p |
| 09:45.43 | Arazon | And they're probably using your addons too lol |
| 09:45.59 | AcidWeb | And while day after patch why it is not updated yet :D |
| 09:46.04 | AcidWeb | Life ;] |
| 09:46.38 | Arazon | Stop it you're making me feel discouraged, I made a StatusBar goddamnit let me revel in my success |
| 09:47.14 | AcidWeb | All addons are perfect... but then somebody start using it ;> |
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| 10:40.51 | zenzio | <Arazon> Am I using any functions added in wrath or later? <-- I may be reading this incorrectly, but just so you know, private server talk is not accepted in here |
| 10:49.24 | chiel | in general it's kinda annoying if you have to debug something for a specific scenario |
| 10:49.38 | chiel | i made my boss frames and just crossed my fingers it would work, haha |
| 10:49.54 | chiel | since i lead raids for my guild it was a bit of a gamble on stone guards... :p |
| 10:50.45 | nevcairiel | back in the day i was sometimes tweaking bigwigs modules mid-raid, that was already quite challenging |
| 10:51.03 | nevcairiel | you dont notice how long you stare at some code until someone pesters you to click the readycheck already |
| 11:00.32 | chiel | haha :p |
| 11:00.44 | chiel | yeah, I was trying to set bigwigs up better yesterday as well |
| 11:00.52 | chiel | I didn't really have time, being the raid leader and all xD |
| 11:01.29 | chiel | I should really just spend some more time outside of a raid to set it up |
| 11:01.53 | chiel | i want to set it up relative to my boss frames, but those only spawn during boss encounters and such... so it's a bit "interesting" to set up :D |
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| 11:21.30 | zenzio | <nevcairiel> you dont notice how long you stare at some code until someone pesters you to click the readycheck already <--- "Tainted core on Nev. Tainted core on Nev! TAINTED CORE ON NEV!!!" |
| 11:21.41 | nevcairiel | well not mid-fight :P |
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| 11:44.47 | haste | I've never edited code mid-fight *cough*. |
| 11:46.29 | Kalroth | I always edited our bossmods mid-wipe |
| 11:51.04 | Adys | i dont get today's xkcd |
| 11:51.56 | haste | alt text seems to hint about Ingress |
| 11:52.20 | haste | not that i have any idea about how it works |
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| 11:55.18 | AcidWeb | eh changes in 5.1 pvpframe made me sadpanda |
| 11:56.39 | AcidWeb | You cant use RequestRatedBattlegroundInfo() if you dont open pvp tab at least once. |
| 11:57.56 | Vlad| | AcidWeb: me too :P |
| 11:58.01 | Vlad| | broke one of my addons :< |
| 11:58.54 | AcidWeb | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:59.15 | AcidWeb | PVPHonorFrame.selectedPvpID = 1 fix that but taint UI |
| 11:59.40 | Vlad| | yes |
| 11:59.47 | Vlad| | don't do anything with the pvp frame |
| 11:59.51 | Vlad| | you will break stuff :P |
| 12:00.22 | AcidWeb | Yep i see that already ;p |
| 12:03.32 | Vlad| | I hope they add some protected template for pvp frame |
| 12:03.49 | AcidWeb | I dont found any other way... i just open that tab for a moment. |
| 12:04.27 | AcidWeb | There is any way to suppress window open sound without tainting it? |
| 12:04.36 | Adys | i need a 4g android phone with good battery life, excellently amazing camera, microusb charging, good internal memory; and if possible replaceable sd card/battery. ideas? |
| 12:05.07 | AcidWeb | BTW Vlad| for what you using pvp frame? |
| 12:11.28 | zenzio | excellently amazing camera? Do you use it as a regular proper camera? |
| 12:18.10 | Adys | "Ideally we will never see a 5 or 6 boss raid tier again." |
| 12:18.12 | Adys | what does that mean? |
| 12:18.20 | Adys | is it too small or too big? |
| 12:18.55 | zenzio | I'd guess too big |
| 12:19.00 | Vlad| | AcidWeb: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info21600-HonorQueue.html |
| 12:19.13 | zenzio | wait, tier, not raid... don't know then |
| 12:19.23 | AcidWeb | Ah seen in Vlad| |
| 12:19.27 | AcidWeb | *it |
| 12:19.36 | nevcairiel | for a whole tier thats too small |
| 12:19.54 | zenzio | I'd have to agree |
| 12:20.00 | Vlad| | point is, can't do anything without templates, now that they protected the func :( |
| 12:20.20 | zenzio | personally I enjoyed 5-6 boss *raids* |
| 12:20.25 | nevcairiel | the current tier has what, 16? |
| 12:20.34 | nevcairiel | + outdoor |
| 12:21.17 | Vlad| | btw, is it me or is it hilarious that the terrace raid is so compact and reeks of "let's not make it big, just put the bosses in one place, less artwork stuff to do too" :D |
| 12:23.11 | Vlad| | you enter and you got a strip of road to follow for each boss ;D |
| 12:23.21 | Vlad| | no wings or anything, hehe |
| 12:23.43 | zenzio | hard to tell |
| 12:24.34 | zenzio | Sartharion, Malygos and Maulgar were all rather simple environments, but very focused, so perhaps not as comparable |
| 12:24.54 | Vlad| | I just litteraly felt like a assembly line for boss defeats in LFR on there ;D hehe |
| 12:25.04 | nevcairiel | those are single-boss instances more or less (well two in the case of maulgar), so the comparison is bad indeed |
| 12:25.26 | nevcairiel | dragon soul was terrible in lfr |
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| 12:29.53 | Vlad| | I liked it |
| 12:29.59 | Vlad| | felt like moving a bit, changing scenery |
| 12:30.12 | nevcairiel | you moved from one hole in the ground to another |
| 12:30.17 | nevcairiel | great scenery |
| 12:30.18 | nevcairiel | :P |
| 12:30.30 | nevcairiel | the only scenery were spine and deathwing himself |
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| 12:31.46 | Vlad| | yeah true :p |
| 12:31.53 | Vlad| | but at least traveling had some scenery hehe |
| 12:32.42 | nevcairiel | are all raids in mop unlocked in lfr by now? i havent been paying attention |
| 12:34.19 | Vlad| | if terrace is last raid |
| 12:34.20 | Vlad| | yes :P |
| 12:34.24 | Vlad| | LFR supports all the raids |
| 12:34.27 | Vlad| | in MOP that is |
| 12:34.52 | nevcairiel | i know it does, they just staggered the lfr unlocks, wasnt sure everything was open now |
| 12:35.13 | Vlad| | one week after |
| 12:37.24 | Vlad| | remember when bosses had immunities |
| 12:37.28 | Vlad| | lava bosses immune to fire |
| 12:37.29 | Vlad| | :P |
| 12:37.31 | Vlad| | aaah memories |
| 12:37.35 | nevcairiel | that was fun times |
| 12:37.38 | Vlad| | now everyone wanna be equal |
| 12:37.40 | Vlad| | yeah |
| 12:37.46 | Vlad| | poisons didn't work on mechanicals |
| 12:38.19 | Vlad| | I mean it added charm to the fights :) |
| 12:38.31 | Vlad| | you couldn't do 100% in all fights |
| 12:38.43 | Vlad| | you had to improvise a bit, each raiding guild had their strong and weaknesses |
| 12:38.49 | Vlad| | strong and weak sides* |
| 12:38.55 | Vlad| | I don't know, I liked it, was a part of the game ;P |
| 12:39.14 | Vlad| | until blizz figured, hey, let's make everyone equal, give everyone interrupts, stuns, e.g. so they feel more balanced |
| 12:39.22 | Vlad| | like back then rogues had problems versus hunters :P |
| 12:39.48 | Vlad| | but still good pvp rogues could kill hunters, just now everyone got more escape abilities and such, more "ops I screwed up, let me push the button" :P |
| 12:40.41 | Adys | kd3: http://i.imgur.com/jGXNo.jpg |
| 12:40.43 | Adys | THAT WORKS |
| 12:40.46 | Adys | NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT |
| 12:41.24 | Vlad| | I don't even know what I am looking at |
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| 12:41.37 | Vlad| | can't spot the special thing with the picture hehe |
| 12:41.51 | Vlad| | like showing your granda a picture of your raid killing a boss, she wouldn't understand anything :P |
| 12:41.51 | Adys | Vlad|: those are solo arenas (brawlers guild) |
| 12:42.01 | Vlad| | ye that I figured :d |
| 12:42.04 | Adys | we're fighting two bosses at once |
| 12:42.11 | Vlad| | you are saying you have problems versus that boss or? :P |
| 12:42.23 | Vlad| | because there are 3 mobs and such |
| 12:42.31 | Vlad| | or because they reused akama model? :p |
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| 12:42.43 | Adys | its akama |
| 12:42.59 | Vlad| | hehe |
| 12:43.01 | Adys | and its a bug |
| 12:43.10 | Adys | its supposed to be one boss per fight :p |
| 12:43.11 | Adys | not tso |
| 12:43.14 | Adys | two |
| 12:43.14 | Vlad| | I guess he wants to kill people when he is not repairing his temple |
| 12:43.22 | Vlad| | is dark summoner another boss? aha |
| 12:43.26 | Adys | ya |
| 12:43.29 | Vlad| | there is a bug if you FD I read |
| 12:43.31 | Vlad| | or vanish |
| 12:43.34 | Vlad| | aggro dropping abilities |
| 12:43.39 | Vlad| | made the scripting go a bit weird |
| 12:43.47 | Adys | hm. |
| 12:43.49 | Adys | ill try invis |
| 12:43.59 | Vlad| | they should just give all the mobs there true sight |
| 12:44.06 | Vlad| | so it works like a aggro drop, but not combat reset :P |
| 12:44.14 | Vlad| | that's how it is in the argent dawn guards |
| 12:44.27 | Vlad| | those sick fuckers that run 500% and demo spam and slow you to 10% speed :P |
| 12:44.32 | Vlad| | they got such sight, can't fool them :P |
| 12:46.20 | Adys | Fisker: http://i.imgur.com/dtSWn.jpg |
| 12:46.23 | Adys | three bosses |
| 12:46.24 | Adys | GO ME |
| 12:50.54 | Fisker | yes |
| 12:51.21 | Vlad| | remember in vanilla, arcane infused gem for hunters? :P razorgore |
| 12:51.30 | Vlad| | I remember it was awesome in AV, at bridge, so many people, BOM aoe :D |
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| 13:00.23 | Vlad| | can I make thunderbird always put my email replies cursor on top of the mail? |
| 13:00.38 | Vlad| | I doubt anyone has a thread like view on mails, everyone always replies with the latest msg on top :P |
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| 13:15.22 | Vlad| | XLoot suddenly does this :P |
| 13:15.41 | Vlad| | http://i.imgur.com/ceykR.jpg |
| 13:15.44 | Vlad| | too much looting bugs it :D |
| 13:20.28 | karl_w_w | many |
| 13:23.36 | Adys | can any mage recommend me an addon to keep track of short time buffs? |
| 13:23.43 | Adys | incanters ward, invocation, etc |
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| 13:25.42 | many | karl_w_w |
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| 13:41.52 | Stanzilla | Adys: weakauras |
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| 13:51.53 | AcidWeb | Anybody know any replacement for Auditor? |
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| 13:54.15 | mikma | haste: http://imgur.com/gallery/QjuZu |
| 14:02.13 | karl_w_w | i use needtoknow Adys |
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| 14:02.53 | karl_w_w | cap the bar length at 12 seconds and put my bomb on there as well |
| 14:03.03 | karl_w_w | all works out quite nicely |
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| 14:06.08 | Portia | First add-on: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info21966-MountFavorites.html |
| 14:07.59 | chiel | grats :D |
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| 14:24.36 | Torhal|work | Vlad|: Don't loot Xuerian1! |
| 14:25.19 | Vlad| | :D |
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| 14:35.28 | Vlad| | do we have resistances anymore? |
| 14:35.46 | Vlad| | I can't find the numbers in the character sheet lol |
| 14:37.18 | Torhal|work | I would say no, but for some reason they didn't get rid of ALL of the resistance stuff you can craft. |
| 14:37.26 | Torhal|work | Just 95% of it. |
| 14:41.52 | Vlad| | hm |
| 14:42.02 | Vlad| | so internally there is resistances still |
| 14:42.04 | Vlad| | just not front end ;) |
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| 14:47.00 | Torhal|work | Since this is Blizzard we're speaking of, all I can tell you is "I have no fucking clue." |
| 14:48.30 | zenzio | I think I actually got some reduction from my FR gear on Ragnaros pre-MoP, but I might be wrong... didn't check the log too closely |
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| 15:06.06 | neutronimity | I'm blacklisting Wowwiki in google results, but the website keeps being listed there. |
| 15:08.13 | Ressy | gotta be signed into google |
| 15:08.29 | Ressy | when doing the searches |
| 15:09.27 | Ressy | hm.. Seems its bugged, cuz its doing the same for me as well. o.O |
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| 15:18.16 | Vlad| | hmm |
| 15:18.25 | Vlad| | I didn't know you could blacklist :Pø |
| 15:19.09 | Ressy | yeah, it used to actually work too. lol |
| 15:35.51 | Vlad| | LOL |
| 15:35.55 | Vlad| | look what I got on my 2nd run |
| 15:36.06 | Vlad| | http://i.imgur.com/NaXh9.jpg |
| 15:36.17 | Vlad| | lol 404 image, sec |
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| 15:40.20 | Vlad| | here we go http://i47.tinypic.com/2iaua6w.png |
| 15:43.30 | SuperPortia|work | Torhal, Ressy: v0.1 of MountFavorites is up on wowinterface.com if you want to check it out. It's still a little buggy, but I wanted to get something out there. |
| 15:43.30 | SuperPortia|work | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=21966 |
| 15:44.32 | foxlit | does wowi not require screenshots anymore? |
| 15:44.41 | SuperPortia|work | It highly recommends them. |
| 15:45.14 | SuperPortia|work | I thought I could upload them last night after I uploaded it. But then I couldn't until the morning and didn't have time to grab them from WoW before I went to work. |
| 15:45.21 | SuperPortia|work | I'll post some tonight. |
| 15:47.24 | karl_w_w | oh wow a banner ad on this youtube video |
| 15:47.46 | karl_w_w | been at least a year since I last saw one of those |
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| 15:54.17 | Vlad| | ads don't simply appear trough adblock |
| 15:54.24 | Vlad| | wannabe mordor joke |
| 16:08.19 | Vlad| | karl why don't I have energy to fix one of my addons atm? I want to but no motivation :( |
| 16:08.40 | Lopeppeppy | Put on some socks, Vlad|. |
| 16:09.29 | karl_w_w | 3 loading screens in a row is just ridiculous |
| 16:09.39 | Vlad| | where karl? :P |
| 16:09.52 | karl_w_w | entering/exiting queued pet battle |
| 16:10.01 | Vlad| | lol :D |
| 16:13.33 | SuperPortia|work | I'm doing alright at pet battles, but I'm suffering from a major lack of specialty types. |
| 16:13.54 | Vlad| | what are your pets? names and level |
| 16:13.56 | SuperPortia|work | I was finally happy to get a solid dragon killer. |
| 16:14.04 | Vlad| | dragon killers = humanoid attacks |
| 16:14.29 | SuperPortia|work | I'm familiar enough with all the types. |
| 16:14.33 | SuperPortia|work | I know what goes well against what. |
| 16:14.37 | Vlad| | :D |
| 16:14.43 | Vlad| | have you gotten yourself a crimson geode? |
| 16:14.53 | Vlad| | or are you battling at level ~15 |
| 16:14.55 | SuperPortia|work | Pat of me can't be bothered to level the crappy ones. |
| 16:14.59 | SuperPortia|work | 25 |
| 16:15.22 | SuperPortia|work | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/lothar/Portia/pet#status=is-collected |
| 16:15.49 | SuperPortia|work | I'm looking for stones to blue-ize some of them. |
| 16:17.18 | Vlad| | hmm |
| 16:17.23 | SuperPortia|work | I should be getting my 10th 25 sometime soon. |
| 16:17.32 | Vlad| | lol pandaren monk |
| 16:17.33 | Vlad| | OP |
| 16:17.34 | SuperPortia|work | Right now I have a lack of magic attack. |
| 16:17.37 | SuperPortia|work | Very |
| 16:17.40 | Vlad| | and you are complaining |
| 16:17.41 | Vlad| | :P |
| 16:17.47 | SuperPortia|work | Dragon killer. |
| 16:18.00 | SuperPortia|work | At level 25, I bet I could get 25k for him or more on the AH. |
| 16:19.39 | Fisker | http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/teen-brags-youtube-bank-robbery-article-1.1212976 <-hopefully her lawyer opted for the insanity plea |
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| 16:26.50 | SuperPortia|work | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/lothar/Portia/pet#status=is-collected&quality=3&family=family-0%2Cfamily-1%2Cfamily-3%2Cfamily-5%2Cfamily-9 |
| 16:27.01 | SuperPortia|work | You can see pet levels drop off fast past a certain point. |
| 16:28.14 | karl_w_w | wtf is this shit |
| 16:28.23 | karl_w_w | the queue always pops the moment i alt tab |
| 16:28.33 | SuperPortia|work | It's waiting for you. |
| 16:28.37 | karl_w_w | queue for 10 minutes and sit there waiting, nothing |
| 16:28.48 | karl_w_w | alt tab, for 30 seconds, it pops i miss it |
| 16:29.03 | SuperPortia|work | It's waiting for you to disappear. Then pounce! |
| 16:29.08 | karl_w_w | requeue and alt tab straight away for 30s, it pops again |
| 16:29.17 | karl_w_w | return to step 1 and repeat |
| 16:29.46 | Krapsy | turn on bg sounds |
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| 16:30.25 | karl_w_w | and i keep getting this one fucker with lil rag, flayer youngling, and frosty |
| 16:30.47 | karl_w_w | and all my fucking abilities miss |
| 16:30.58 | karl_w_w | and his lil rag does fucking 1500 damage in 1 round |
| 16:31.02 | SuperPortia|work | ouch |
| 16:31.10 | SuperPortia|work | lil'rag is OP |
| 16:31.27 | SuperPortia|work | And they don't say there's play to win in WoW |
| 16:31.46 | karl_w_w | and that's not even strong attacks that's normal |
| 16:32.30 | karl_w_w | i just wanna know why every time i lift off or burrow or anything like that the attack always misses |
| 16:33.40 | karl_w_w | i refuse to level my lil rag |
| 16:34.23 | foxlit | high-damage attacks have a naturally higher chance to miss |
| 16:34.55 | karl_w_w | not against me they dont |
| 16:34.57 | SuperPortia|work | Also attacks that have avoidance built in have a high miss chance. |
| 16:35.10 | SuperPortia|work | It probably just seems that way. |
| 16:35.19 | karl_w_w | so what's the point in them |
| 16:35.30 | SuperPortia|work | Avoidance. |
| 16:35.38 | SuperPortia|work | They're sending their big attack at you and you can avoid it. |
| 16:35.45 | SuperPortia|work | It's useful for two part attacks. |
| 16:35.54 | SuperPortia|work | And there are a decent number of them. |
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| 16:36.15 | SuperPortia|work | I always get pissed when I miss with my giant missile. |
| 16:36.31 | SuperPortia|work | The mini-thor's got a decent two-part attack. |
| 16:36.41 | SuperPortia|work | I've seen it two-shot beasts. |
| 16:38.27 | foxlit | personally, I use that one to deal with other people's avoidance abilities |
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| 16:39.20 | Unkle | Don't most guys get pissed when they miss with their missile? |
| 16:39.50 | Krapsy | heyoooo |
| 16:39.56 | SuperPortia|work | Really, Unkle, really? |
| 16:40.10 | Unkle | There is nothing I can't make into innuendo. |
| 16:40.19 | karl_w_w | i think the most annoying pet i've battled is the monkey the darkmoon faire master has |
| 16:40.26 | SuperPortia|work | YES! |
| 16:40.29 | SuperPortia|work | Little fucker. |
| 16:40.36 | SuperPortia|work | I did take that team down yesterday though. |
| 16:40.39 | Unkle | Mini Tyrael is also OP. |
| 16:40.40 | SuperPortia|work | @#$% |
| 16:40.52 | SuperPortia|work | There's a mini Tyriel? |
| 16:40.56 | karl_w_w | i've had him on like 1 hit from death and he's taken my last pet from full to nothing without me getting an attack in |
| 16:41.16 | Unkle | Yes, but he was an event pet, so you won't see him often. |
| 16:41.17 | SuperPortia|work | I had to get lucky and have him miss on the first stun attack. |
| 16:41.23 | SuperPortia|work | Ah |
| 16:41.30 | SuperPortia|work | I'm missing most of those. |
| 16:42.51 | Unkle | Blizzard Employees and people who attended an event the World Wide Invitational - http://www.wowhead.com/spell=53082 |
| 16:43.29 | karl_w_w | no there is something wrong with my pets |
| 16:43.34 | karl_w_w | im convinced |
| 16:43.40 | karl_w_w | so many of my attacks miss |
| 16:44.15 | Unkle | And I say "Blizzard Employees" only 'cause I know that many employees were given on 2 years or so ago as gifts. |
| 16:45.08 | SuperPortia|work | Level is taken into account as well as damage rating. |
| 16:45.49 | karl_w_w | they're all 25 rare |
| 16:46.08 | Unkle | Also, go go mount sale. |
| 16:46.12 | karl_w_w | oooooh |
| 16:46.18 | karl_w_w | sandstorm in silithus |
| 16:46.21 | SuperPortia|work | Yep |
| 16:46.38 | SuperPortia|work | Are they missing a lot or being dodged a lot? |
| 16:46.38 | karl_w_w | first silithid i find is rare |
| 16:46.39 | karl_w_w | sup |
| 16:46.46 | karl_w_w | missing mostly |
| 16:46.55 | Unkle | I just bought the two mounts I didn't have and a cinder kitten. |
| 16:47.03 | SuperPortia|work | Same. |
| 16:47.17 | SuperPortia|work | Do they have high speed, low damage compared to the other pet? |
| 16:47.35 | SuperPortia|work | Low attack will cause you to miss a lot. |
| 16:47.39 | SuperPortia|work | Lower attack that is. |
| 16:47.52 | Krapsy | oh yeah? |
| 16:48.02 | SuperPortia|work | yeah |
| 16:48.08 | karl_w_w | not really |
| 16:50.39 | karl_w_w | only minfernal and qiraji guardling left to catch |
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| 16:52.51 | karl_w_w | changing zone seems to eject you from the queue |
| 16:52.56 | karl_w_w | i'm blaming crz |
| 16:54.13 | karl_w_w | bloody ridiculous, first attack mine misses, his crits, i have 289 attack to his 273 |
| 16:56.52 | karl_w_w | i should fraps this |
| 16:58.50 | karl_w_w | and now a bug, the bonus damage from lightning storm weather isnt applying to thrash |
| 16:59.16 | chiel | i should really get into the whole pet battle thing more |
| 16:59.29 | chiel | but all my pets feel weak in pvp battles |
| 16:59.38 | chiel | since they all seem to have pets with ridiculous abilities |
| 17:00.08 | foxlit | karl_w_w: what's the opponent pet type? |
| 17:00.10 | chiel | maybe i should just find 3 good pets that would work |
| 17:00.42 | chiel | anyone feel like looking through http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/steamwheedle-cartel/Aelen/pet#status=is-collected and telling me which ones are good? :P |
| 17:01.28 | Unkle | http://www.pcgamer.com/2012/12/04/ncsoft-undergoing-realignment/ :( |
| 17:05.06 | karl_w_w | don't remember foxlit |
| 17:05.18 | karl_w_w | think it was beast |
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| 17:11.50 | foxlit | I wonder why the xkcd forums aren't linked form xkcd anymore |
| 17:12.27 | nilyaK | foxlit: today's goatkcd version is prob one of the better ones. |
| 17:12.36 | nilyaK | (NSFL) |
| 17:12.37 | Fisker | why are you mad? |
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| 17:45.47 | karl_w_w | Message: ...ns\Blizzard_BlackMarketUI\Blizzard_BlackMarketUI.lua line 143: attempt to compare number with nil |
| 17:45.54 | karl_w_w | default ui needs more bugs |
| 17:45.58 | Semlar | probably an addon |
| 17:46.47 | mikma | jnwhiteh: http://imgur.com/gallery/fMFCH |
| 17:47.56 | Semlar | line 143 is comparing HybridScrollFrame_GetOffset(BlackMarketScrollFrame) with C_BlackMarket.GetNumItems() |
| 17:49.51 | karl_w_w | yeah, i dont see how it could throw an error |
| 17:50.11 | karl_w_w | it ran because i placed a bid (and the event fired) |
| 17:51.38 | Semlar | i should hope getnumitems wouldn't return nil |
| 17:52.39 | Semlar | but the offset probably wasn't nil because right before that it's being defined as offset + i which would have thrown the error first |
| 17:53.08 | Semlar | so it pretty much has to be C_BlackMarket.GetNumItems() |
| 17:54.06 | karl_w_w | hmm |
| 17:54.34 | karl_w_w | thinking back i wonder if i moved away right after i placed the bid |
| 17:54.44 | karl_w_w | therefore the frame closed by the time it ran |
| 17:55.34 | karl_w_w | aka. "nice sanity check blizz" |
| 17:56.11 | foxlit | Aren't Lua errors off by default? |
| 17:56.24 | Semlar | yeah |
| 17:56.27 | karl_w_w | i think so |
| 17:56.27 | Semlar | wow that function really shouldn't return nil |
| 17:56.35 | Semlar | it should return 0 by default |
| 17:56.47 | foxlit | So if you didn't mess with that, you probably wouldn't notice anything amiss. |
| 17:57.10 | karl_w_w | that's not really a good excuse foxlit :P |
| 17:57.10 | Semlar | you would if it were killing your frame rate |
| 17:57.29 | Semlar | depends on how bad of an error it is |
| 17:57.38 | karl_w_w | besides what about next time that function is called |
| 17:57.42 | karl_w_w | wont it just not run? |
| 17:59.15 | Semlar | considering how often i've thrown errors onupdate |
| 17:59.24 | Semlar | i'm pretty sure it will |
| 17:59.58 | Semlar | i don't know about the new watchdog for slow functions in combat though |
| 18:09.51 | karl_w_w | im certain sometimes if code errors it just wont run again |
| 18:10.15 | karl_w_w | but it might just be unsigned code |
| 18:10.22 | karl_w_w | or certain errors like syntax |
| 18:10.25 | Vlad| | what happening today, got offhand form illidan :P lol |
| 18:10.47 | karl_w_w | wow grats Vlad| |
| 18:10.51 | Vlad| | I am a druid :D |
| 18:10.55 | karl_w_w | that'll really help you in sunwell progression |
| 18:10.59 | Vlad| | but thanks never the less :p |
| 18:11.05 | Vlad| | I got alar mount earlier |
| 18:11.23 | Vlad| | and sulfuras eye earlier last week lol |
| 18:11.58 | Vlad| | haters gonna hate |
| 18:12.59 | karl_w_w | just got on my traveller's tundra mammoth to use the repair |
| 18:13.14 | karl_w_w | when there is a repairing vendor literally 3 paces away |
| 18:17.15 | Vlad| | :D |
| 18:17.20 | Vlad| | it's a habit |
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| 18:17.54 | Semlar | if i upload a release version of my addon, then change it to a beta version, will the curse client redownload the last release version for everyone it downloaded the now beta version |
| 18:19.01 | karl_w_w | my guess is no |
| 18:20.31 | Semlar | so it probably won't overwrite a beta version on the user's machine with an older release |
| 18:22.46 | Vlad| | :D |
| 18:23.25 | Semlar | what do you do to stop people downloading it if you realize the version you uploaded has a serious bug in it |
| 18:24.08 | Dagmar | Revert change, push new release. |
| 18:24.21 | Semlar | so you have to wait for it to be approved again? |
| 18:24.24 | Dagmar | You don't really stop people so much as you give them something newer to download. |
| 18:24.51 | Dagmar | You'd have to wait for basically the same process to stop a broken download, afaik |
| 18:25.10 | Semlar | is there a way to just replace the latest release with an archived one |
| 18:25.24 | Semlar | without waiting |
| 18:26.02 | karl_w_w | you can delete uploads |
| 18:27.03 | Semlar | this is just for future reference for the next time i do something stupid |
| 18:27.38 | karl_w_w | why are the messages about pet battle queuing put in the errors frame instead of chat |
| 18:28.07 | karl_w_w | they really made a mess with the ui this expansion |
| 18:28.24 | Arrowmaster | Dagmar, Adys: where mere mortals would have given up i have succeeded and gotten my wifi to work in the debian installer |
| 18:29.38 | Arrowmaster | now i must wait for the installer to zero out the harddrive before it sets up the encrypted partition |
| 18:29.57 | Adys | grats |
| 18:32.01 | Arrowmaster | i also have to do this once it finishes installing but before it reboots https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFIBooting#Selecting_the_.28U.29EFI_Graphic_Protocol |
| 18:32.38 | Dagmar | I don't worry about that stuff. |
| 18:32.54 | Arrowmaster | no i have to do that or the system isnt usable |
| 18:32.55 | Dagmar | I just take the Atheros card out, drop it in the trash, and install an Intel one. |
| 18:33.22 | Arrowmaster | atheros is the ethernet, wifi is realtek |
| 18:35.28 | Dagmar | Generally they're both highly questionable chipsets. |
| 18:36.01 | Dagmar | For the $12 or so it costs to put a fully-supported card in, one single problem means I throw them out. Two means I set them on fire, then throw them out. |
| 18:36.11 | Arrowmaster | whatever is in this dell im ircing from is terrible |
| 18:36.38 | Arrowmaster | i get terrible transfer speeds on it |
| 18:36.49 | Dagmar | Probably turn off the bluetooth transciever |
| 18:37.20 | Arrowmaster | this is an old core due laptop, no bluetooth |
| 18:37.35 | Arrowmaster | and no i didnt forget the 2 there, there is no 2 |
| 18:37.55 | Dagmar | Bluetooth has kinda been around for awhile |
| 18:37.56 | karl_w_w | lol |
| 18:38.15 | karl_w_w | yes, bluetooth in laptops predates duo |
| 18:38.23 | Arrowmaster | yeah but its wasnt common |
| 18:38.34 | Dagmar | it also shares spectrum with wireless, which is why if it were there it could have been tanking your throughput |
| 18:38.37 | Arrowmaster | my new toshiba doesnt have bluetooth |
| 18:38.41 | karl_w_w | wasnt there an intel thing |
| 18:39.12 | Dagmar | Maybe you're thinking of Swamp Thing? |
| 18:39.21 | karl_w_w | an intel chipset before core which had that stuff |
| 18:39.32 | Dagmar | Oh yeah. They made a rather big deal about that. |
| 18:39.34 | karl_w_w | im good at remembering product names! |
| 18:39.41 | Arrowmaster | centrieno |
| 18:39.46 | Dagmar | Nope. |
| 18:39.51 | Dagmar | There was another name for it. |
| 18:40.03 | Arrowmaster | pentium? |
| 18:40.13 | Dagmar | No, that was a CPU type and old as fuck |
| 18:40.16 | Arrowmaster | celeron |
| 18:40.17 | karl_w_w | it was a laptop specific thing |
| 18:40.23 | Arrowmaster | thats all the old intel cpus i know of |
| 18:40.25 | zenzelezz | Pentium M? |
| 18:40.47 | Dagmar | Tehre was a specific initiative they had that was just for laptops where they got all excited about how power efficient *and* wirelessy it all was |
| 18:40.49 | Arrowmaster | sure its not centrieno? that was laptop specific |
| 18:41.03 | Dagmar | You have't spelled "Centrino" correctly, yet |
| 18:41.10 | Arrowmaster | so? |
| 18:41.19 | zenzelezz | how long ago was this? |
| 18:41.23 | Arrowmaster | you know what i ment |
| 18:41.37 | Dagmar | It might be Centrino, I'm still digging. I know it was when I actually worked for Dell for the obligatory three months |
| 18:41.48 | Arrowmaster | i bet it was |
| 18:42.17 | karl_w_w | yeah it was centrino |
| 18:42.23 | karl_w_w | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centrino |
| 18:44.50 | Dagmar | Aye |
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| 18:47.05 | Vlad| | centrifuge |
| 18:47.29 | karl_w_w | intel centipede |
| 18:47.45 | karl_w_w | Celery M |
| 18:48.53 | karl_w_w | i dont like they're new naming scheme, you can't make as much fun of it |
| 18:49.51 | karl_w_w | how can i dump the tooltip text to chat |
| 18:50.00 | Vlad| | all of it? |
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| 18:50.07 | karl_w_w | yeah |
| 18:50.12 | Vlad| | gotta iterate trough |
| 18:50.49 | Vlad| | for i=1,GameTooltip:NumLines()do print(_G["GameTooltipTextLeft"..i]:GetText())end |
| 18:51.02 | karl_w_w | why cant i GameTooltip:GetText :( |
| 18:51.18 | Vlad| | because GameTooltip is a container of many fontstring objects |
| 18:51.34 | Vlad| | you could create the GetText function behind the scenes to return a table or something, sure :P |
| 18:55.57 | karl_w_w | but you can SetText |
| 18:57.51 | SuperPortia|work | Does SetText just override all the sub-containers and set the contents? |
| 18:58.24 | SuperPortia|work | If it does you can SetText since it would just be a shortcut for clearing the container and then adding a single child, but GetText wouldn't work because it could have multiple children,. |
| 18:58.34 | karl_w_w | who knows :D |
| 19:00.53 | Vlad| | ehm |
| 19:01.28 | Vlad| | GameTooltip:SetText is just an alias for clearing the tooltip and adding the first line of text into LeftText1 object |
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| 19:04.44 | karl_w_w | ok so why isnt gettext an alias? :P |
| 19:05.31 | foxlit | because reading tooltips is an abomination |
| 19:05.41 | SuperPortia|work | Because you could have multiple children. |
| 19:06.35 | karl_w_w | i dont want to read it for addon purposes, i just want to dump it to chat so i can copy iy |
| 19:06.36 | karl_w_w | it |
| 19:06.42 | Vlad| | the tooltip isn't one big string with new lines you see :D |
| 19:06.48 | Vlad| | yeah well |
| 19:07.04 | Vlad| | GameTooltipTextLeft# and GameTooltipTextRight# |
| 19:07.11 | Vlad| | :NumLines() and iterate |
| 19:07.18 | Vlad| | :GetText() of each object :P |
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| 19:10.36 | Vlad| | karl need more help? |
| 19:11.59 | karl_w_w | nah im good, thanks |
| 19:12.39 | karl_w_w | unless you would like to inform blizz that I'm displeased |
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| 19:18.19 | karl_w_w | http://foodporndaily.com/pictures/red-velvet-pancakes-with-blueberries-whipped-cream-and-syrup/ <- this doesn't look like food porn, it looks like the aftermath of a terrible kitchen knife accident |
| 19:19.26 | mikma | jnwhiteh: http://hackaday.com/2012/12/05/common-linux-tools-on-android-without-root-by-installing-busybox/ |
| 19:20.09 | SuperPortia|work | I don't know karl_w_w, that looks mighty tasty. |
| 19:20.22 | SuperPortia|work | Let's just say it's slasher flick food porn. |
| 19:22.04 | TC-work | karl_w_w: shut up and eat your blood cakes |
| 19:23.28 | karl_w_w | lol |
| 19:28.44 | SuperPortia|work | They're delicious, delicious blood cakes. |
| 19:28.45 | SuperPortia|work | Some poor Klingon mother slaved away in a kitchen whipping slaves to make them make you this mean. And you complain?!? |
| 19:28.45 | SuperPortia|work | s/mean/meal |
| 19:28.52 | karl_w_w | 1 win away from 5 pvp wins without a pet dying |
| 19:28.58 | karl_w_w | and i didnt cheat yet |
| 19:29.09 | SuperPortia|work | Lots of in-battle healing? |
| 19:29.26 | karl_w_w | not really |
| 19:29.36 | karl_w_w | well, 1 pet heals and it's an op heal :P |
| 19:29.45 | SuperPortia|work | That would qualify for lots |
| 19:29.47 | SuperPortia|work | Which pet? |
| 19:29.52 | karl_w_w | but that's not really the reason, just a nice combo |
| 19:29.57 | karl_w_w | fire spirit |
| 19:30.18 | Arrowmaster | its been over an hour and progress bar for erasing this disk isnt even at 1/24 of the way done yet (i used a ruler to measure it) |
| 19:31.03 | karl_w_w | how big is the disk? |
| 19:31.47 | Arrowmaster | 640gb |
| 19:32.04 | karl_w_w | that's pretty slow :P |
| 19:32.15 | SuperPortia|work | Are you doing a super format where you do it seven times? |
| 19:32.26 | SuperPortia|work | Also you disk may be bad or you may have bad drivers. |
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| 19:32.42 | Arrowmaster | im doing whatever the debian installer is doing to erase data before setting up an encrypted partition |
| 19:32.54 | Primer | it's probably zeroing everything |
| 19:33.04 | Primer | dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda |
| 19:33.08 | Arrowmaster | yeah probably only once |
| 19:33.13 | Arrowmaster | still slow though |
| 19:33.13 | SuperPortia|work | Quick installs just nuke the MBR |
| 19:33.26 | SuperPortia|work | Quick formats that is. |
| 19:33.33 | Xuerian | Vlad|: Why is that happening. I explicitly banned that from happening. It's not allowed. |
| 19:33.39 | SuperPortia|work | Or whatever the *nix equivalent is. |
| 19:35.33 | karl_w_w | fucking fuck |
| 19:35.40 | karl_w_w | lil rag breaks my streak |
| 19:35.44 | karl_w_w | wtf blizard |
| 19:35.50 | karl_w_w | I am displeased |
| 19:36.21 | pompy | what |
| 19:36.41 | SuperPortia|work | lil'rag beat you down. Doesn't he do that to everyone? |
| 19:36.54 | karl_w_w | he's fucking op |
| 19:36.58 | karl_w_w | it's ridiculous |
| 19:37.23 | pompy | ah pet battles |
| 19:37.28 | pompy | i havent even started them yet >< |
| 19:37.37 | nevcairiel | where did you battle him? |
| 19:37.42 | karl_w_w | it's not even luck based |
| 19:37.59 | karl_w_w | it's just press this button, press this button, dead enemy |
| 19:38.19 | karl_w_w | in the pvp queue nevcairiel |
| 19:38.25 | nevcairiel | i have the lil'ragnaros myself, should i put him in my team? :P |
| 19:38.47 | karl_w_w | only if you want to be a cheap bastard |
| 19:38.57 | nevcairiel | but i would win, right? |
| 19:39.13 | karl_w_w | it won't hurt your chances |
| 19:39.18 | Adys | is there a way to display living bomb on target along with buffs or something in quartz? |
| 19:39.24 | Adys | like quartz procs does with buffs |
| 19:39.27 | Adys | but for debuffs |
| 19:39.31 | karl_w_w | but if blizzard have any brains (the jury's still out) they'll nerf him |
| 19:39.47 | nevcairiel | i actually avoided all these special pets in my team, i only got the deathy murloc because i think he is cute :p |
| 19:39.52 | SuperPortia|work | Just looking at him I can see he's OP |
| 19:40.13 | SuperPortia|work | The Panda Monk is OP against dragons. |
| 19:40.17 | SuperPortia|work | One, two, kill |
| 19:40.31 | karl_w_w | i actually had all my pets alive and 1 of his dead, the other on half |
| 19:40.45 | karl_w_w | he switches rag in, i didnt even win the match |
| 19:41.16 | Torhal|work | Xuerian: You didn't ask him which version he was using! |
| 19:41.24 | karl_w_w | and here he is again |
| 19:41.26 | karl_w_w | time for revenge |
| 19:41.30 | Xuerian | IT SHOULDN'T MATTER T_T |
| 19:41.39 | Xuerian | It's like freaking hanging chads |
| 19:42.07 | Xuerian | I love Lua, I really do, but it's made me value typed compiled languages |
| 19:43.01 | SuperPortia|work | Yes |
| 19:43.08 | karl_w_w | ha! |
| 19:43.11 | karl_w_w | 1 shot rag |
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| 19:43.19 | karl_w_w | he switched him in at the wrong rime |
| 19:43.19 | nevcairiel | i never really missed static typing in Lua, not like JS where i miss types every day :p |
| 19:43.21 | karl_w_w | time |
| 19:44.45 | SuperPortia|work | I like intellisense. |
| 19:44.53 | SuperPortia|work | And I can only get a small smattering of it. |
| 19:45.26 | Torhal|work | Xuerian: What do types have to do with improper anchoring? :) Unless you're talking about a different issue from what he pasted this morning... |
| 19:46.07 | Xuerian | Torhal|work: Nothing specifically, it's that those rows aren't getting hidden properly. Hypothetically it's impossible in the latest version, ideally it shouldn't have been in the other one. |
| 19:48.25 | karl_w_w | hmm, the fire spirit has the same combo as lil rag, once u get to level 20 |
| 19:48.35 | karl_w_w | but u have to give up the crazy heal |
| 19:49.01 | SuperPortia|work | Cauterize is awesome |
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| 19:50.01 | Arazon | Is it possible to rotate a statusbar frames background texture? |
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| 19:57.32 | karl_w_w | could combine the fire spirit with like phoenix hatchling or something |
| 19:59.10 | Vlad| | Xuerian: XLoot issue :< |
| 20:03.51 | karl_w_w | person named their character "Premetheis" |
| 20:04.02 | karl_w_w | deserve to die |
| 20:05.25 | karl_w_w | omfg |
| 20:05.29 | karl_w_w | fucking rag again |
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| 20:12.22 | SuperPortia|work | I'm gonna have to level myself some rag and then not use him. |
| 20:12.25 | SuperPortia|work | Just for kicks. |
| 20:13.56 | Dagmar | I still like my mechanical squirrel, although he has a distressing tendency to crit on rares I'm trying to capture and fucking one-shot them. |
| 20:14.52 | Dagmar | I need to get back out to the Barrens/Mulgore and snatch up one of those goddamn trolling antelopes. |
| 20:15.19 | Dagmar | You know, the ones that join in and just lolheal to piss you off because you can't capture them in that zone. |
| 20:16.54 | SuperPortia|work | Yep |
| 20:17.14 | pompy | Arrowmaster: http://www.facebook.com/AmazonMoviesTV/posts/557639450917712 |
| 20:18.54 | Arrowmaster | of course black butler used that image on the cover...... |
| 20:24.48 | Mr_Rabies | that's the crappiest anime sale ever |
| 20:25.02 | Mr_Rabies | two good shows at their normal price and two bad shows |
| 20:26.22 | Mr_Rabies | i guess champloo's a bit lower than normal |
| 20:26.29 | Torhal|work | http://map.honeynet.org/ |
| 20:33.41 | karl_w_w | i like how when the battle pet queue pops the camera stops following you |
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| 20:41.53 | Vlad| | what is this honeybobo map? |
| 20:42.51 | nevcairiel | sounds like someone set up a bunch of honeypots and tracks who trys to attack them |
| 20:42.59 | nevcairiel | tracking the origin ips |
| 20:46.28 | Torhal|work | nevcairiel: Exactly. It's pretty damn cool visualization, especially since it's Google-maps-style. |
| 20:46.48 | nevcairiel | i fail to see the google maps style |
| 20:47.32 | nevcairiel | its a map, which you can zoom |
| 20:48.40 | Torhal|work | Moving around by dragging. |
| 20:53.45 | karl_w_w | ok 4/5 again |
| 20:53.55 | karl_w_w | if i see lil rag this time im just cheating |
| 20:58.48 | karl_w_w | no forfeiting required! :D |
| 21:00.51 | karl_w_w | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/frostmourne/Larwood/pet lovely combo |
| 21:04.15 | SuperPortia|work | Where did you get the pandaren fire spirit? |
| 21:05.04 | Ressy | http://www.wowhead.com/quest=32428 |
| 21:06.16 | kd3 | http://www.endersansible.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/first-offical-still.jpg |
| 21:06.22 | kd3 | ! |
| 21:06.55 | Ressy | oh wow.. I didn't know they were doing Enders Game into a movie.. |
| 21:07.05 | kd3 | it's been in development hell for /years/ |
| 21:08.38 | Ressy | wow.. He is tall for Ender. |
| 21:10.01 | Mr_Rabies | i like the room design |
| 21:10.02 | karl_w_w | i know im about to get lynched, but what is enders game? |
| 21:10.13 | Mr_Rabies | sci-fi book, karl_w_w |
| 21:10.14 | kd3 | ~wiki Ender's Game |
| 21:10.31 | kd3 | grr. someone needs to update perl to skip the lead infobox |
| 21:11.22 | Mr_Rabies | basically, kid goes to an academy in space and things happen |
| 21:11.33 | Ressy | lol |
| 21:12.03 | Ressy | read the synopsis.. |
| 21:12.08 | Ressy | But seriously, the book is good. |
| 21:12.12 | Mr_Rabies | including, but not limited to catholic pig aliens |
| 21:12.16 | karl_w_w | kd3: people have been saying that since I joined this channel |
| 21:12.22 | Mr_Rabies | (not in the first book) |
| 21:12.46 | Ressy | I had to read it for school, and ended up reading the rest of the books in the series |
| 21:12.59 | Arazon | Ok awesome random question to bomb an already awesome convo: I understand the onevent tags for XML being used to call functions when events fire, but how do I go about coding events programmaticly? |
| 21:13.33 | Arazon | Or rather, point me to an example |
| 21:13.43 | kd3 | http://www.wowpedia.org/Handling_events#Examples |
| 21:13.56 | Mr_Rabies | the first one's good, but it's even better after the next few |
| 21:14.01 | kd3 | covers both lua/xml |
| 21:14.06 | Mr_Rabies | it cleans up some of my complaints with the first one |
| 21:14.16 | Arazon | thanks kd3, exactly what Ive been searching for |
| 21:14.34 | kd3 | plenty more can be found at: http://www.wowpedia.org/Portal:Interface_customization |
| 21:16.03 | kd3 | oh wow |
| 21:16.07 | kd3 | dave brubeck died |
| 21:16.10 | kd3 | :( |
| 21:17.17 | SuperPortia|work | Aw, I saw him in concert a few years back. |
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| 21:17.30 | SuperPortia|work | He was really good even at the ripe old of age of holy fuck. |
| 21:17.57 | SuperPortia|work | Oh and Orson Scott Card's book are often good, but the man himself is an idiot. |
| 21:18.07 | kd3 | ^ |
| 21:18.08 | kd3 | ^^^^^ |
| 21:19.10 | SuperPortia|work | He wrote for a local paper and I picked it up thinking, hey, Orson Scott Card. But it was full of rambling half-thought-out crap. I thought, well, everyone has their bad days. But each time I would read it, it would be more half-informed bullshit. |
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| 21:19.28 | SuperPortia|work | It's kind of how I felt about the Dilbert creator after I read a few of his more serious thoughts. |
| 21:20.08 | SuperPortia|work | Like gravity doesn't exist... everything is just expanding so fast it feels like you're being pushed against each other. |
| 21:20.09 | Mr_Rabies | yeah, it's important to seperate the creator from their work sometimes |
| 21:20.13 | SuperPortia|work | It is. |
| 21:20.19 | SuperPortia|work | I strongly hold that position. |
| 21:20.19 | Mr_Rabies | like, for instance, frank miller's got some great comics but he's a total loon |
| 21:20.34 | SuperPortia|work | Some, but a lot of his comics are women-hating bullshit. |
| 21:20.42 | Mr_Rabies | yeah |
| 21:20.47 | SuperPortia|work | I grew up on comics. |
| 21:20.48 | Arazon | Whats this about gravity? |
| 21:21.10 | SuperPortia|work | The Dilbert guy stated some looney crap. |
| 21:21.10 | xyphoid_ | and you really notice the misogyny once you know the creator's a loon |
| 21:21.23 | Mr_Rabies | doesn't mean that batman: year one, sin city, daredevil: the man without fear, etc are bad |
| 21:21.24 | SuperPortia|work | Also that ISDN should have won the war for the internet. |
| 21:21.45 | Mr_Rabies | just because he's got some really bad comics too |
| 21:21.48 | SuperPortia|work | There are a lot of prostitutes in Miller's work. |
| 21:22.05 | Mr_Rabies | he's always been one of those pulp fiction types |
| 21:22.17 | SuperPortia|work | He's got this fascination with protecting women from being raped which fantasizing about them being raped. |
| 21:22.26 | Mr_Rabies | yeah |
| 21:22.46 | SuperPortia|work | I liked parts of Sin City. Other parts were hard to watch. |
| 21:23.27 | SuperPortia|work | I don't mind violence against female super-heroes -- it comes with the territory, but with Miller I always felt I was watching them being victimized. |
| 21:24.30 | Mr_Rabies | he comes from a time of damsels in distress being the status-quo, he's definitely not an author to look for truly strong female characters in his work, generally |
| 21:24.42 | Mr_Rabies | dude's old |
| 21:24.51 | Mr_Rabies | comics in general are still kind of behind the times in that regard |
| 21:25.11 | SuperPortia|work | They kind of target male adolescent fantasy. |
| 21:25.19 | Mr_Rabies | you know when the teen titans kid's cartoon has better versions of the characters than the comics that something's messed up there |
| 21:25.28 | SuperPortia|work | Over-sexualized women and male power fantasies. |
| 21:25.58 | Mr_Rabies | at least he's not rob liefeld |
| 21:26.04 | SuperPortia|work | haha |
| 21:26.08 | Kaylin | could live with being dominated. |
| 21:26.16 | SuperPortia|work | Who can't draw anything below the waist right. |
| 21:26.31 | SuperPortia|work | And what the fuck is up with his stomachs. |
| 21:26.39 | SuperPortia|work | How that man gets so much work is beyond me. |
| 21:26.45 | Mr_Rabies | <SuperPortia|work> Who can't draw anything right. |
| 21:26.47 | Mr_Rabies | ftfy |
| 21:27.01 | Mr_Rabies | his story stuff is really, really bad too |
| 21:27.23 | SuperPortia|work | The funniest thing I heard about liefield is that he just gets bored drawing anything above the upper torso. |
| 21:27.29 | Mr_Rabies | miller's female characters can be written off somewhat to his neo-noir style |
| 21:27.40 | Mr_Rabies | but liefeld is embarassingly bad |
| 21:27.45 | SuperPortia|work | Yeah. |
| 21:28.09 | SuperPortia|work | Well liefield just likes taking exaggerated pin-up poses and drawing them as action scenes. |
| 21:28.16 | SuperPortia|work | A lot of them do that actually. |
| 21:28.20 | Mr_Rabies | oh my god |
| 21:28.23 | SuperPortia|work | But then it always looks fucked up. |
| 21:28.29 | Mr_Rabies | i would pay so much money for a liefeld version of the captain america movie |
| 21:28.30 | Mr_Rabies | http://0.media.dorkly.cvcdn.com/55/55/11c5dae986ee6dbc5937c37d7f6b834f-if-chris-evans-looked-like-rob-liefelds-captain-america.jpg |
| 21:28.51 | SuperPortia|work | Awesome |
| 21:29.13 | SuperPortia|work | Someone should let Captain America knows he has like stage 50 cancer. |
| 21:29.41 | SuperPortia|work | If half your torso is malignant growth, see a doctor. |
| 21:29.50 | SuperPortia|work | It's just bad. |
| 21:30.32 | Mr_Rabies | carrie kelly seems pretty decent as a female character so far, though |
| 21:30.40 | Mr_Rabies | i guess we'll see if this goes in weird directions from here |
| 21:30.50 | Mr_Rabies | i'm about halfway through dark knight returns |
| 21:31.25 | Mr_Rabies | seeing one of the covers here worries me a bit |
| 21:32.17 | SuperPortia|work | I miss the batman animated series of the early nineties before they redid the artwork. |
| 21:32.18 | SuperPortia|work | :( |
| 21:32.51 | Mr_Rabies | i think the art got more consistent after the change, but less iconic |
| 21:33.05 | Mr_Rabies | the art was all over the place in the first few seasons |
| 21:33.10 | Mr_Rabies | so many animation studios |
| 21:33.30 | Mr_Rabies | none of the korean ones knew what exactly they were doing, and some of the japanese ones were cinematic |
| 21:33.54 | Mr_Rabies | tokyo movie shinsha's animation is insane for batman: TAS |
| 21:34.06 | SuperPortia|work | how so? |
| 21:34.30 | karl_w_w | http://www.progressiveboink.com/2012/4/21/2960508/worst-rob-liefeld-drawings the existence of this list says a lot, that the list is 40 items long says even more |
| 21:35.20 | Mr_Rabies | what do you mean, SuperPortia|work? how so what :O |
| 21:35.27 | Mr_Rabies | i said a lot between the last thing you said :p |
| 21:35.56 | SuperPortia|work | how were they insane for the batman: TAS |
| 21:36.11 | SuperPortia|work | http://www.pop-cult.net/Wikitainment/images/6/60/DCAU-Catwoman-00.gif |
| 21:36.19 | SuperPortia|work | ^ This is what I'm talking about though. |
| 21:36.44 | Mr_Rabies | oh, they were insanely high framerate and smooth animations |
| 21:36.49 | SuperPortia|work | Ah |
| 21:36.56 | SuperPortia|work | It was such good production quality. |
| 21:36.57 | Mr_Rabies | they were like something out of a film for every episode they did |
| 21:37.03 | SuperPortia|work | They were. |
| 21:37.08 | Mr_Rabies | but then some korean animation studio would get the next episode |
| 21:37.13 | Mr_Rabies | and it'd look like freakin' gi joe |
| 21:37.20 | SuperPortia|work | I did notice that. |
| 21:37.26 | SuperPortia|work | I remember the really good ones though. |
| 21:37.38 | SuperPortia|work | Fully painted backgrounds, smooth animation. |
| 21:37.43 | Mr_Rabies | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcQ8E3y7-Uc |
| 21:37.54 | Mr_Rabies | the earlier seasons had all the backgrounds airbrushed on black paper |
| 21:38.16 | Mr_Rabies | apparently it was killing the animators overseas due to all the fumes from requiring an airbrush so they went back to painting white paper black |
| 21:39.33 | Mr_Rabies | sunrise was actually at an all-time low around this time, so their animation was generally pretty bad |
| 21:40.02 | Mr_Rabies | sad that the guys known for some of the best animation of the 80s, working on a batman show, have some mediocre animation :( |
| 21:41.39 | SuperPortia|work | yeah, akom is terrible. |
| 21:42.16 | durcyn | well, if some third world sweat shop workers have to inhale hot garbage for you to feel better about your cartoon, let's just pull their lungs out and dance on them |
| 21:42.43 | Mr_Rabies | lol |
| 21:43.13 | Mr_Rabies | i'm just saying it looked good, not that it was good the animators' health was at risk :p |
| 21:43.28 | Mr_Rabies | they replicated the effect perfectly fine with white paper though |
| 21:44.06 | durcyn | odd, most whitepapers are despicable. |
| 21:44.23 | Arrowmaster | bad joke |
| 21:45.24 | Mr_Rabies | slaps durcyn around a bit with a hippo |
| 21:46.21 | Mr_Rabies | http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/1070358/38.jpg |
| 21:46.28 | Mr_Rabies | liefeld why |
| 21:51.00 | SuperPortia|work | I told you anything above the waist he just gets bored. |
| 21:51.06 | SuperPortia|work | sorry below the waist |
| 21:53.30 | Mr_Rabies | dark knight returns status: machine guns http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-GM1jBR7b0Bg/TpVw3FqTjXI/AAAAAAAAJnI/87Idh1OhtHs/s1600/BatmanTDKR2-064+The+Dark+Knight+Triumphant.jpg |
| 21:56.23 | SuperPortia|work | Best quote: "I think everyone needs to realize that Rob Liefeld was THE MOST POPULAR COMIC BOOK ARTIST IN THE WORLD at the time. His comics sold millions of copies. He starred in a Levi’s commercial that was ABOUT HIM. AND THIS IS WHAT HIS ART LOOKED LIKE. HE MADE MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF DOLLARS FROM THIS YOU GUYS" |
| 21:56.40 | Mr_Rabies | i own a single liefeld comic |
| 21:56.43 | Mr_Rabies | and it's awful |
| 21:57.34 | Mr_Rabies | http://prismcomics.org/assets/874.jpg |
| 21:57.37 | Mr_Rabies | why did i buy thissssss |
| 21:57.46 | Arrowmaster | i dont own any comics |
| 21:57.46 | Mr_Rabies | i was 9, i guess that's why |
| 21:59.06 | SuperPortia|work | I really cannot get over how enormous Rob tends to draw his male characters. Really, they’re so over muscled and a stereotype of a stereotype that they just end up looking like weird wrinkly fatasses. All the pouches and half-shirts ain’t helpin either. |
| 21:59.44 | Mr_Rabies | it has this astounding piece of work in it http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mctzksXaPo1raik27o1_500.jpg |
| 21:59.50 | Mr_Rabies | the comic i own |
| 22:00.22 | Mr_Rabies | this lady's ankles go on forever |
| 22:00.30 | nevcairiel | thats just horrible |
| 22:01.54 | Dagmar | I can think of things I'd do with her. |
| 22:02.23 | Mr_Rabies | take her to a doctor, hopefully as soon as possible? |
| 22:02.37 | Mr_Rabies | because there's no way she's not going to die at like 30 from internal organ failure |
| 22:02.43 | Mr_Rabies | look at that waist |
| 22:03.07 | Dagmar | In the meantime, I have a collection of pulleys, straps, and cords which should make for a very entertaining itme indeed. |
| 22:04.00 | SuperPortia|work | But think of how much marrow we could get from those bones. |
| 22:04.08 | SuperPortia|work | Half her height is legs. |
| 22:04.11 | SuperPortia|work | More than half. |
| 22:04.15 | SuperPortia|work | 2/3 |
| 22:04.25 | Dagmar | THey could probably wrap around you *twice* |
| 22:04.41 | Dagmar | ...and there's some entertainment to be had without even having to sit down, too. |
| 22:05.14 | Mr_Rabies | she's got double knees |
| 22:05.27 | Dagmar | A challenge! |
| 22:06.04 | Unkle | Seriously, that guy skipped the anatomical drawing portion of his curriculum. |
| 22:06.16 | Dagmar | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:06.51 | Dagmar | It's supposed to be stylistic art, not photorealism. |
| 22:07.45 | Unkle | It's barely even represntational. |
| 22:07.53 | SuperPortia|work | That's kind of our point. |
| 22:08.01 | SuperPortia|work | And it's stylistic in not such a great way. |
| 22:08.01 | Mr_Rabies | it's wrong to consider lifeld's art stylized |
| 22:08.12 | Mr_Rabies | it's incompetent at best |
| 22:08.37 | SuperPortia|work | It's like drawing a woman, shrinking their waist to nothing, and then given them giant breasts... oh wait, that's what he did. |
| 22:11.11 | SuperPortia|work | Or the fact that liefield only has one female face he can draw. |
| 22:11.27 | Semlar | did somebody mention breasts |
| 22:12.05 | Dagmar | What *must* you think of Picasso. |
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| 22:14.17 | Mr_Rabies | please don't ever put picasso and liefeld in the same category, ever |
| 22:14.33 | Dagmar | I've had girlfriends who were 6'5" before, so the scale thing doesn't really bother me much |
| 22:14.38 | Semlar | picasso sucked at drawing comics |
| 22:15.14 | Dagmar | So, how many of you hypocrites play Blood Elves? |
| 22:15.17 | Dagmar | S'all I'm sayin' |
| 22:15.48 | SuperPortia|work | Yeah, but I prefer human females. |
| 22:16.18 | Vlad| | I prefer purl, he will never not-answer me when I ask him things! |
| 22:18.03 | Mr_Rabies | check this out dagmar and tell me he has a shred of talent: http://www.progressiveboink.com/2012/4/21/2960508/worst-rob-liefeld-drawings |
| 22:19.05 | Arrowmaster | my progress bar went up a quarter of an inch since i last checked it |
| 22:19.44 | Mr_Rabies | i mean look at this, look at it: http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/1070318/25.jpg |
| 22:21.23 | nevcairiel | are those supposed to be real legs, or a prosthesis? |
| 22:23.25 | Semlar | wow, this guy really doesn't like this other guy |
| 22:23.39 | Mr_Rabies | everyone has tiny feet in the liefeldverse |
| 22:24.04 | Mr_Rabies | he tries to hide their feet at every opportunity, because he can't draw them |
| 22:24.20 | Mr_Rabies | http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mbp74jpImm1qddp4io1_1280.jpg |
| 22:25.00 | SuperPortia|work | we are connected via satellite with an eyeless, 14-fingered disabled man who chose to wear a turtleneck and a trenchcoat with the collar popped to his report in the desert |
| 22:26.17 | Vlad| | can't draw feet? |
| 22:26.26 | Vlad| | that is probably the easiest thing to do :P |
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| 22:30.26 | Arrowmaster | im finding it kinda strange that google maps has row on the map at the local drive in |
| 22:31.03 | Arrowmaster | oh they pulled them from the satalite view |
| 22:33.27 | Mr_Rabies | http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lqcblliXRt1qm2nmbo1_1280.jpg |
| 22:33.28 | Mr_Rabies | pfffffffffffffffffff |
| 22:33.34 | Mr_Rabies | okay i'm done |
| 22:33.48 | Neffi | pretty cool: http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2012/12/portals-physics-engine-rebuilt-in-25kb-on-a-graphing-calculator/ |
| 22:34.04 | Mr_Rabies | i'm not even gonna comment on that pic, i'll just let it stand |
| 22:42.41 | SuperPortia|work | "Of all the things wrong with this, what stands out the most is how the lens flare in Cable's crotch makes it look like he's cumming on Wolverine's shoulder." |
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| 22:44.46 | ZorbaTHut | hah, my first thought was "That sounds like someone describing a Liefeld drawing! I wonder where it came from" |
| 22:45.01 | SuperPortia|work | It was from a liefield drawing |
| 22:45.20 | ZorbaTHut | yeah. that's why I'm amused. Liefeld's artwork is so distinctive that it's even recognizable through text descriptions. |
| 22:45.41 | Mr_Rabies | also he pretty much obsesses over a small handful of characters |
| 22:45.57 | Mr_Rabies | to the point that he wanted to write deathstroke so badly that he made a comedy knockoff |
| 22:46.08 | Mr_Rabies | (deadpool) |
| 22:46.25 | Mr_Rabies | deadpool is wade wilson, deathstroke is slade wilson, and they look basically the same |
| 22:47.19 | Mr_Rabies | http://comicbook.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/deadpool-liefeld.jpg - Deadpool |
| 22:48.00 | Mr_Rabies | http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/6/61170/1158359-deathstroke_the_terminator_super.jpg |
| 22:48.02 | Mr_Rabies | deathstroke |
| 22:51.12 | Dagmar | Peter Porker. |
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| 22:54.13 | SuperPortia|work | Did Liefield create deadpool? |
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| 23:13.09 | Arazon | Heres a random question to bomb yet another awesome conversation: http://pastebin.com/An4GBp1u is my code, and yet the status bar is not changing based on value. How exactly is this supposed to work? |
| 23:13.47 | Arazon | I've read up on the documentation for Status Bars, and I think I might have interpreted the documentation wrongly |
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| 23:15.31 | Arazon | nvm i think i got it |
| 23:17.08 | Arazon | nvm I dont lol |
| 23:17.15 | Arazon | but ill update my paste |
| 23:17.41 | Arazon | http://pastebin.com/mbifeCNS |
| 23:22.33 | Neffi | please for the love of god use locals |
| 23:22.34 | Neffi | but |
| 23:22.39 | Neffi | self:SetValue(...) |
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| 23:22.52 | Neffi | your min/max values are 0,100, so :SetValue() should be in the range of 0,100 |
| 23:24.28 | Arazon | it is, the formula is UnitHealth("player")/UnitHealthMax("player") *100 |
| 23:24.59 | SuperPortia|work | Is this integer division? |
| 23:25.21 | SuperPortia|work | If so it should be UnitHealth("player") * 100 / UnitHealthMax("player") |
| 23:25.22 | Arazon | Yes, and im using math.floor to round |
| 23:25.27 | Neffi | There is no integer division in Lua |
| 23:25.32 | SuperPortia|work | Gotcha |
| 23:25.34 | SuperPortia|work | Jsut checking |
| 23:25.38 | SuperPortia|work | Just checking |
| 23:26.03 | Neffi | Arazon: In the event handler: self:SetValue(UnitHealth(unit)/UnitHealthMax(unit)*100) |
| 23:26.03 | Neffi | or |
| 23:26.15 | Neffi | :SetMinMaxValues(0,1) and drop the "*100" |
| 23:29.25 | Arazon | nope |
| 23:29.30 | Arazon | :-\ |
| 23:31.40 | Arazon | Any other ideas? |
| 23:32.16 | Neffi | first off drop the math.floor() |
| 23:32.38 | Neffi | 2nd off, Health_Frame has no :SetScript('OnEvent',...) |
| 23:33.43 | Arazon | You mean line 16? I do have Health_Frame:SetScript("OnEvent", eventHandler) |
| 23:33.57 | Arazon | Do I need one for unit health? |
| 23:34.09 | Neffi | what? |
| 23:34.52 | Arazon | What is :SetScript('OnEvent', ...)? what is the three periods argument? |
| 23:35.56 | Neffi | I just figured you knew what went there since you used it on the power frame |
| 23:36.47 | Arazon | I'm just piecing together stuff I find online, testing it, seeing what works, what doesn't, and asking questions when I'm stumped |
| 23:37.02 | Arazon | http://pastebin.com/mbifeCNS is my updated one without power frame |
| 23:38.57 | Arazon | http://pastebin.com/Dnm05iud updated with your edits |
| 23:40.53 | Neffi | the line Health_Frame:SetScript("OnEvent", eventHandler) |
| 23:40.56 | Neffi | is your problem |
| 23:41.01 | Neffi | eventHandler isn't defined yet |
| 23:41.05 | Neffi | just pass the function directly |
| 23:41.19 | Neffi | HealthFrame:SetScript('OnEvent', function(self, event, ...) |
| 23:41.22 | Neffi | -- ... |
| 23:41.23 | Neffi | end) |
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| 23:42.29 | durcyn | ellipsis is all remaining args |
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| 23:44.08 | Neffi | Fractal Design cases are fucking beautiful |
| 23:44.42 | Neffi | I wish other manufacturers would take a cue from the conservative, understated stylistic trend going on nowadays |
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| 23:48.11 | Arazon | http://pastebin.com/65VYWWx2 is updated code, throwing a "self is a nil value" error. Is it possible that self is not defined when being passed to the OnEvent script? |
| 23:49.55 | Neffi | no |
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| 23:50.14 | Neffi | pastebin the exact error message |
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| 23:54.43 | Arazon | I actually got it lol, heres my code http://pastebin.com/cDTqVJU3 |
| 23:55.10 | Arazon | Was trying to look at it from another angle |
| 23:55.24 | Arazon | It's just really blocky, gonna try and smooth the update process |
| 23:56.47 | Arazon | Thank you very much for your help Neffi, couldnt have done it without |
| 23:57.03 | Neffi | np |
| 23:57.17 | Neffi | if you're just learning you should browse for small addons on WoWInterface and pick them apart |
| 23:57.35 | Neffi | look for an existing UF example that's only a few kilobytes. Picking apart other people's code helped me when I was first learning. |
