| 00:00.25 | Semlar__ | if you just anchor your frames relative to each other you only have to anchor one of them to the screen to position them all |
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| 00:19.20 | chiel | !api CreateFrame |
| 00:19.20 | lua_bot | CreateFrame: Creates a new Frame object (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/CreateFrame) |
| 00:23.14 | Wobin | awesome |
| 00:23.23 | Wobin | the BL2 shift codes being posted are different on Twitter and FB |
| 00:23.27 | Wobin | so two fers! |
| 00:26.01 | pompy | http://www.teamfortress.com/saxxyawards/ |
| 00:32.32 | Adys | FOURTY |
| 00:32.33 | Adys | BILLIOn |
| 00:32.34 | Adys | GOLD. |
| 00:32.40 | Adys | fourty fucking billions |
| 00:32.43 | Semlar | forty |
| 00:32.44 | Adys | kd3: fourty billion. |
| 00:32.55 | Adys | fuck you, you're not the fourties' police. |
| 00:32.55 | kd3 | cripes |
| 00:33.03 | Semlar | i actually am the fourties police |
| 00:33.13 | Adys | Well I'm very sorry I offended you then |
| 00:33.16 | Semlar | and you are in direct violation |
| 00:33.18 | Adys | I promise it will not happen again |
| 00:33.35 | Semlar | i don't believe you |
| 00:33.38 | Adys | seriously |
| 00:33.43 | Adys | that weapon sold for 40bn gold |
| 00:34.01 | Adys | thats the equivalent of 12000+ euros |
| 00:34.02 | pompy | .. |
| 00:35.38 | pompy | http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/7200033385 |
| 00:36.33 | pompy | http://www.ign.com/boards/threads/diablo-3-user-sells-in-game-item-for-40-billion-gold-aka-20-000.452775843/ |
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| 00:49.51 | Stanzilla | "- Players using the Russian language will no longer crash as soon as they use the sniper rifle." |
| 00:49.57 | Stanzilla | awesome hitman patch notes |
| 00:50.12 | pompy | lolll |
| 00:55.59 | foxlit | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHkKJfcBXcw |
| 00:58.40 | foxlit | I suppose http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKB4h9gvmm0 provides context. |
| 00:58.51 | Adys | No it doesn't |
| 00:58.57 | Adys | theres no fucking link that provides context for this |
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| 01:06.39 | Sintacks | my curse client has an add for panties |
| 01:06.40 | Sintacks | wat |
| 01:13.55 | bleeter | stupid bloody linux http://phajdan-jr.blogspot.com.au/2012/11/google-chrome-chromium-failed-to-move.html |
| 01:18.59 | wereHamster | cool, so chromium uses cgroups :) |
| 01:30.07 | Fisker | that's not even a great roll Adys |
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| 02:13.57 | Semlar | is there a way to get SetBackdrop to not make my border disappear at certain scales |
| 02:14.19 | Semlar | dividing the size by the scale doesn't seem to do it |
| 02:15.31 | Semlar | i guess i should just ask how to make a pixel perfect border |
| 02:17.07 | Adys | I would like for my body to be chummed in a wood chipper and sprayed over the crowd to "It's Raining Men." |
| 02:17.17 | Adys | didn't have to click much to be done with the internet for today |
| 02:19.23 | Semlar | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showpost.php?p=184587&postcount=8 :| no longer exists |
| 02:25.36 | Semlar | http://i.imgur.com/1VpCp.jpg good enough! i'm going to assume this works in all cases |
| 02:46.06 | Arrowmaster | blizzard is offering me game time to come back to wow..... not going to fall for it |
| 02:47.36 | pompy | Arrowmaster: you'd so get this http://store.steampowered.com/app/203680/ |
| 02:49.00 | Arrowmaster | haha its even from codemasters |
| 02:49.12 | Arrowmaster | which makes the real f1 game |
| 02:49.29 | Fisker | i can't be stopped Arrowmaster |
| 02:50.26 | Arrowmaster | why the hell does amazon offer free 1 day shipping if you use a discover card and a special promo code but not let me use the fucking code on anything |
| 02:55.17 | pompy | Arrowmaster: http://www.amazon.com/gp/feature.html?t=slicinc-20&tag=dealnewscom&docId=1000839971 are you following the instructions!? :P |
| 02:56.22 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 02:56.41 | Arrowmaster | i did all that and it kept saying it could not apply the promotion code when i entered it |
| 02:57.06 | pompy | what item |
| 02:57.57 | Fisker | encompasses Arrowmaster |
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| 02:58.27 | bluworkcow | *props head up on Fisker* |
| 02:58.28 | Arrowmaster | Only products displaying (a) “Special Offers” with a link to these Terms and Conditions or (b) these Terms and Conditions, in each case in the product offer detail pages are eligible for FREE one-day shipping. |
| 02:58.29 | bluworkcow | herro |
| 02:58.35 | Arrowmaster | yeah the item didnt have that |
| 02:58.37 | Fisker | no bluworkcow |
| 02:58.49 | bluworkcow | :( |
| 02:59.54 | pompy | there you go! |
| 03:00.11 | Arrowmaster | nothing ive tried to buy has had that |
| 03:00.12 | kd3|hate`net | cripes |
| 03:00.15 | kd3|hate`net | I'm losing my touch |
| 03:00.29 | kd3|hate`net | new areas in kun-lai I never saw on the ptr that I'm just randomly discovering now |
| 03:00.32 | pompy | "According to the WSJ this past Saturday, Amazon just bought the entire 3 blocks in Central Seattle to build a 3 plus million square feet building office for their new Corporate HQ." ... earlier this year |
| 03:11.37 | durcyn | don't ever stop touching, kd3 |
| 03:11.53 | Semlar | touches kd3 |
| 03:12.25 | kd3 | eesh. someone's getting a little crazy... blood-soaked invitations going for 60k on the BMAH |
| 03:14.11 | durcyn | first round went for 150 on my server |
| 03:19.29 | Shirik | soooooo |
| 03:19.35 | Shirik | christmas tree float just drove past my house |
| 03:19.38 | Shirik | christmas float |
| 03:19.49 | Shirik | like all lit up, towed by a pickup truck |
| 03:20.01 | Arrowmaster | which state are you currently in? |
| 03:20.05 | Shirik | full speed, just kinda looked outside and saw a bunch of random lights and was "what the fuck is that" until I realized |
| 03:20.07 | Shirik | OR |
| 03:20.16 | Arrowmaster | so it is actually december |
| 03:20.18 | Arrowmaster | er no |
| 03:20.27 | Arrowmaster | its still november |
| 03:20.33 | durcyn | give or take 5 hours off |
| 03:20.34 | Shirik | it's very random to see a christmas float just towed down your neighborhood street while lit up |
| 03:20.49 | Shirik | like I don't live on a major street or anything |
| 03:21.01 | Arrowmaster | if it was december there i would have let it slide |
| 03:21.15 | bluworkcow | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:22.26 | Arrowmaster | i saw an animal resource center van drive up and down the street 5 times while i was putting oil in my car today, kept slowing down but never once stopped to ask for directions like i was expecting |
| 03:23.14 | Arrowmaster | and no i dont know what an animal resource center van does |
| 03:23.41 | End_ | drives up and down the street apparently |
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| 03:30.23 | Guest55494 | Ok, so my problem is that my menu isn't disappearing when the window disappears |
| 03:31.00 | Semlar | you could hook the frame's onhide event to hide the menu |
| 03:31.23 | Semlar | or just make the menu a child of the frame |
| 03:31.37 | SuperPortia | In that case I thought I had. |
| 03:32.28 | SuperPortia | How do I make it a child of the parent? |
| 03:32.56 | Semlar | how are you creating the menu |
| 03:33.20 | bluworkcow | *giggle snort* |
| 03:33.55 | Semlar | in its CreateFrame you can specify the parent as the third argument |
| 03:34.29 | SuperPortia | local MountFavorites_DropDownMenu = CreateFrame("Frame", "MountFavorites_DropDownMenu", MountJournal) MountFavorites_DropDownMenu.displayMode = "MENU" MountFavorites_DropDownMenu.initialize = MountFavoritesMenu_Initialize |
| 03:36.39 | Semlar | and it doesn't get hidden along with MountJournal? |
| 03:36.46 | SuperPortia | No |
| 03:37.41 | Semlar | well it should >_> |
| 03:38.02 | SuperPortia | haha |
| 03:38.32 | Semlar | i guess you could try doing MountJournal:HookScript('OnHide', function() MountFavorites_DropDownMenu:Hide()) or something |
| 03:38.37 | SuperPortia | http://pastebin.com/2FDsDDyp |
| 03:40.11 | Semlar | oh |
| 03:40.18 | Semlar | it makes some separate frame |
| 03:40.20 | Semlar | uh |
| 03:40.38 | Semlar | i think there's a function to close all dropdown menus but i don't remember what it's called |
| 03:42.53 | SuperPortia | So why isn't the parent stuff working? |
| 03:43.11 | Semlar | the dropdown template is generating a frame for the list |
| 03:43.16 | Semlar | it's called DropDownList1 |
| 03:43.34 | Semlar | you could technically hide that but i'm not sure what the consequences are |
| 03:44.04 | SuperPortia | Well I'm wondering how the pet journal works. |
| 03:44.59 | Semlar | we don't have to wonder! https://github.com/Ketho/wow-ui-source/blob/ptr/AddOns/Blizzard_PetJournal/Blizzard_PetJournal.lua |
| 03:45.40 | Semlar | they call HideDropDownMenu(1) |
| 03:46.21 | Semlar | well first they check that the dropdown menu that's open is theirs |
| 03:46.38 | SuperPortia | I saw that and duplicated it, but what calls that function? |
| 03:48.11 | Semlar | i feel like you shouldn't need to manually hide it |
| 03:48.52 | durcyn | easy with random HideDropDownMenu calls, that is most assuredly not specific to the pet journal. |
| 03:49.52 | Semlar | well you don't call UIDropDownMenu_Initialize |
| 03:50.09 | Semlar | that looks important |
| 03:50.21 | SuperPortia | Except it's getting called. |
| 03:50.25 | SuperPortia | The menu works. |
| 03:50.33 | Semlar | is it? i don't see it in the code |
| 03:50.40 | SuperPortia | I'm not directly. |
| 03:50.44 | SuperPortia | I was wondering that myself. |
| 03:50.56 | SuperPortia | I guess it gets called after ToggleDropDownMenu |
| 03:51.21 | Semlar | i think you're supposed to call it on creation |
| 03:51.43 | SuperPortia | Well it needs to get called over and over again. |
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| 03:58.05 | Semlar | superportia: http://pastebin.com/uBS6apgk |
| 03:58.35 | Semlar | i just hooked the onhide script |
| 03:59.09 | SuperPortia | Got it |
| 03:59.20 | Semlar | oh you already had a hidemountdropdown |
| 03:59.22 | SuperPortia | CreateFrame("Frame", "MountFavorites_DropDownMenu", MountJournal, "UIDropDownMenuTemplate") MountFavorites_DropDownMenu.displayMode = "MENU" MountFavorites_DropDownMenu.initialize = MountFavoritesMenu_Initialize |
| 03:59.28 | SuperPortia | I removed the local |
| 03:59.41 | SuperPortia | And added UIDropDownMenuTemplate |
| 03:59.55 | Semlar | okay i accidentally added a function because you were trying to call MountFavorites_HidePetDropdown |
| 04:00.02 | Semlar | so that's what i called it |
| 04:00.28 | Semlar | that should be MountFavorites_HideMountDropdown |
| 04:00.49 | Dark_Elf | u mean dropdowns dont hide automagically? |
| 04:01.01 | Semlar | they might if you make them correctly! |
| 04:01.06 | SuperPortia | They do, but it looks like they don't without the UIDropDownMenuTemplate |
| 04:01.50 | Semlar | i haven't had to make a dropdown menu in a while |
| 04:02.33 | SuperPortia | Well I'm happy it works. And with that I'm declaring v1.0 done. |
| 04:02.48 | SuperPortia | So it offers the basic functionality I wanted with the right amount of fit and finish. |
| 04:03.03 | Semlar | did you fix the function names in your OnEvent that call MountFavorites_HidePetDropdown |
| 04:04.08 | SuperPortia | * looks around * uh, yeah, of course, ... duh |
| 04:04.20 | Semlar | >_> |
| 04:04.25 | SuperPortia | Fixed now |
| 04:04.34 | SuperPortia | Not sure how you unlearn a mount |
| 04:05.04 | Semlar | lobotomy should do it |
| 04:05.06 | Dark_Elf | mumbles cause blizzard made them account wide |
| 04:06.23 | SuperPortia | Who makes that add-on? ;) |
| 04:06.39 | Semlar | superportia: http://semlar.com/Loupe.zip |
| 04:06.55 | Semlar | that's what i have so far on the terrain map addon |
| 04:07.04 | SuperPortia | Oh cool |
| 04:07.13 | SuperPortia | Small |
| 04:07.19 | SuperPortia | Which is good |
| 04:07.21 | Semlar | i took off the border because it wouldn't stay the right size |
| 04:08.03 | Semlar | something about the scaling |
| 04:08.39 | Semlar | even just moving it across the screen it would go from like 2 pixels to 1 pixels to no pixels wide apparently at random |
| 04:09.34 | SuperPortia | I'm guessing it's sub-pixel stuff going on |
| 04:09.41 | SuperPortia | Or rounding |
| 04:10.05 | Semlar | yeah it's partial pixels wide and just rounding |
| 04:10.14 | Semlar | but i couldn't find a way to make it stop |
| 04:11.00 | Semlar | probably getting it to be a whole number after all the scaling would do it |
| 04:11.14 | SuperPortia | I have to admit, that's pretty bad-ass |
| 04:11.25 | Semlar | ^_^ |
| 04:11.41 | Semlar | it's probably still kinda buggy |
| 04:11.59 | Semlar | i added a check for missing textures so it wouldn't show neon green for them |
| 04:13.00 | Semlar | there might be some flicker in the display but i don't know if there's anything i can do about it |
| 04:13.25 | SuperPortia | Gotcha |
| 04:14.11 | SuperPortia | Not without some sort of double or triple buffering and I'm not sure you can do with. |
| 04:14.14 | SuperPortia | do that* |
| 04:14.50 | Semlar | you could probably do it by making two layers and textures and adding a slight delay before it switches to the new one |
| 04:14.56 | Semlar | two layers of textures* |
| 04:15.15 | Semlar | the flicker is from the newly set texture loading |
| 04:15.21 | Semlar | i think |
| 04:16.16 | SuperPortia | You'll get a little lag in mouse movement, but less flicker. |
| 04:16.37 | SuperPortia | Alright, I'm heading home. I should be back in about 20 min. |
| 04:16.45 | Semlar | alright |
| 04:16.48 | A-KO | http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/882967147655035222/6ABE59148DF7FFB8B6A21B92703850CCEE26729D/ < I call this, target practice |
| 04:16.48 | A-KO | :D |
| 04:16.54 | SuperPortia | Grats on the very cool add-on |
| 04:17.21 | Semlar | thanks, maybe you can help improve it |
| 04:19.54 | Shirik | a study shows that there is a correlation between how well a computer can compress a music audio file and how "enjoyable" a given piece of music is |
| 04:19.57 | Shirik | wtfed |
| 04:20.23 | Semlar | clearly computers prefer compressing good music |
| 04:20.44 | Kaylin | they can actually |
| 04:24.43 | Semlar | you know i could actually avoid the textures flickering by just drawing them all when the map changes |
| 04:25.01 | Semlar | i'll have to see how much of an impact that has on performance |
| 04:26.00 | Semlar | i THINK as long as they're hidden they won't put any strain on anything, so it would just be a matter of toggling their visibility |
| 04:31.54 | clever | Semlar: the study says that the harder to compress it is, the better it is |
| 04:32.19 | clever | if its too predictable (easy to tell the decompressor to repeat X) then its boring |
| 04:32.37 | Semlar | so the more variation in the piece the harder it is to compress |
| 04:32.52 | clever | yep |
| 04:32.56 | Shirik | clever: It's actually in the middle |
| 04:33.03 | Shirik | if it's too hard to compress, then your brain can't process it |
| 04:33.06 | Semlar | it's such a ridiculous way to gauge the quality of the music though |
| 04:33.10 | Shirik | (the most obvious example is white noise) |
| 04:33.16 | clever | Shirik: yeah, pure white noise would be the hardest to compress, and the most meaningless |
| 04:33.33 | Shirik | so your brain tends to prefer easy-to-compress music, but not too easy |
| 04:33.35 | Semlar | psh i'm listening to white noise right now |
| 04:33.54 | Semlar | it's not their best work |
| 04:34.07 | Shirik | you should try seeding your random number generator |
| 04:42.11 | Dagmar | You would freak if you saw some of my CDs |
| 04:46.04 | Dagmar | Also, try explaining to the police some night *why* you were sitting in your car, listening to AM radio static, without him thinking he needs to arrest you. |
| 04:46.10 | Dagmar | That's always fun. |
| 04:46.40 | clever | :D |
| 04:47.01 | Shirik | tell him you were listening for signs of extraterrestrial life |
| 04:47.39 | Dagmar | The first time it didn't help that the guy was watching me bob my head for awhile before coming over |
| 04:48.05 | Dagmar | There really is some interesting stuff buried in freq skip territory tho |
| 04:49.54 | clever | lol |
| 05:04.26 | Thunder_Child | Dagmar: because it's not fucking illegal, that's why. |
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| 05:08.06 | lcd | Ban everything and approve only where necessary. |
| 05:25.58 | Cairenn | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2a5pWMZxlIA&feature=g-all |
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| 05:28.19 | Primer | Anyone know of an addon that can be customized to remind people to do things they're interested in, which have lockouts, such as specific dailies, or specific raids? |
| 05:33.52 | Semlar | does group calendar do that |
| 05:36.50 | Primer | I'm asking for someone else |
| 05:37.05 | Primer | So I'm not going to find out |
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| 06:59.52 | kd3 | boo. even after the hotfix/nerf I still can't solo visc as a mage |
| 07:00.06 | kd3 | I'm going to have to find a trinket or something that lets me spawn adds that do melee swings |
| 07:01.46 | Adys | kd3: barov peasant caller |
| 07:01.58 | kd3 | yah, I think I've still got mine in the bank somewhere |
| 07:02.21 | Adys | i got two :P |
| 07:02.24 | Adys | the old one and the new one |
| 07:02.32 | Adys | funnily, the one with a lower item level sells higher |
| 07:10.19 | nevcairiel | do you still n eed frost damage, or was that removed too? |
| 07:10.39 | kd3 | yah, still need frost damage |
| 07:11.00 | kd3 | thankfully, I'm frost spec |
| 07:15.52 | durcyn | elemental force enchant works well enough for it |
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| 08:16.43 | lcd | Help the "helpers" help themselves to the helpings. |
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| 08:45.51 | mikma | cairenn: http://imgur.com/gallery/ftCKA |
| 08:46.44 | Cairenn | not dressed skimpily enough to accurately compare |
| 09:04.06 | Maldivia | Cairenn: there's always the warwick rowing calendar if you want more skimpy :P |
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| 09:12.52 | zenzelezz | so this unemployed immigrant was supposed to get $170 from social services. The teller mis-typed the amount, and the guy got $47.5k. Quite an impressive typo. Before the mistake was discovered, the money had all been transferred to Rumania and cashed out |
| 09:13.37 | Vlad| | lol |
| 09:13.55 | Vlad| | wouldn't you do the same? :P |
| 09:14.00 | zenzelezz | this was in Norway by the way, not the US |
| 09:14.02 | zenzelezz | nope |
| 09:14.26 | Vlad| | put yourself in his shoes, poor, immigrant, no job, has a family to provide for |
| 09:14.48 | zenzelezz | not my problem, stop coming here if you don't intend to look for honest work |
| 09:14.50 | bluworkcow | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:15.08 | Vlad| | lol |
| 09:15.24 | Vlad| | those are two different things zenzelezz :P |
| 09:15.35 | zenzelezz | no, he was one of those guys |
| 09:15.59 | Vlad| | I don't know much about him so can't say, I assume he was a normal guy that wanted to work but had an nice accident happen to him :P |
| 09:16.22 | zenzelezz | if he was a normal guy he wouldn't have run off with the money |
| 09:16.26 | zenzelezz | now he faces jailtime |
| 09:16.52 | Vlad| | you can be a normal guy tempted by money |
| 09:17.46 | Maldivia | hmm, so the teller typed 275000 instead of 1000 - that is an impressive typo |
| 09:17.54 | Vlad| | when desperate you aren't yourself :p |
| 09:17.58 | zenzelezz | very much so Maldivia |
| 09:18.09 | nevcairiel | if someone gives you money, is it a crime to use it? :p |
| 09:18.41 | zenzelezz | nevcairiel: yes, if you weren't the intended recipient then we actually have laws against that |
| 09:18.45 | ZorbaTHut | yes, in most countries, if they accidentally give you something then you are legally required to return it |
| 09:18.58 | lcd | So what exactly happened to Blingtron this last pastch? YOu can only tag him once a week? |
| 09:19.04 | nevcairiel | so how long are you supposed to wait for someone to make that claim? |
| 09:19.09 | nevcairiel | its a rather grey area at best :p |
| 09:19.27 | ZorbaTHut | I believe there are laws that specify how long, but I suspect it also depends on how willing you are to correct the issue |
| 09:19.55 | nevcairiel | i wouldnt go asking around if someone "misplaced" their money :p |
| 09:19.56 | Vlad| | if I suddenly got a lot of money I'd be in a dilemma, if I needed money then there is no incentive not to withdraw it. |
| 09:20.08 | ZorbaTHut | And by not doing so, you'd be committing a crime. |
| 09:20.16 | ZorbaTHut | here's the UK laws: http://www.money.co.uk/article/1005023-can-you-keep-money-accidentally-paid-into-your-bank-account.htm |
| 09:20.27 | ZorbaTHut | A person is guilty of an offence if: (b) he knows or believes that the credit is wrongful; and (c) he dishonestly fails to take such steps as are reasonable in the circumstances to secure that the credit is cancelled. |
| 09:20.41 | bluworkcow | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:20.44 | bluworkcow | *noms* |
| 09:20.47 | ZorbaTHut | (the (a) is kind of uninteresting, but the entire post is worth reading) |
| 09:20.54 | ZorbaTHut | heya blu ^^ |
| 09:21.13 | Vlad| | what if you get money and you think it was for some job you did but it later is discovered it wasnt, are you still guilty? :P |
| 09:22.11 | ZorbaTHut | vlad, I think it's clear that if you honestly thought it was for a job you did, then (b) wouldn't be the case |
| 09:22.17 | Vlad| | ^^ |
| 09:22.19 | ZorbaTHut | that said, once you discover it isn't, you'd be expected to attempt to clear things up |
| 09:22.40 | Vlad| | maybe that prince in brazil finally paid me the money he promissed |
| 09:22.41 | ZorbaTHut | and obviously if you thought it was for a job you did, you wouldn't be likely to withdraw your entire life savings in cash and flee to Romania :P |
| 09:22.58 | bluworkcow | no vlad. |
| 09:23.03 | bluworkcow | you are not sexy enough |
| 09:23.10 | Vlad| | ah it was nigerian prince :P |
| 09:23.56 | Vlad| | I am just pulling your chain, ZorbaTHut and you zenzelezz :P |
| 09:24.01 | Vlad| | I hope you enjoyed that |
| 09:27.53 | karl_w_w | but that's not to say they would be able to prove you didnt think the nigerian gave you money |
| 09:28.08 | karl_w_w | enough people fall for the scams to prove it's possible |
| 09:28.26 | ZorbaTHut | karl, then why did you flee to romania? :P |
| 09:28.58 | karl_w_w | s/flee to/visit/ |
| 09:29.40 | karl_w_w | because I've heard wonderful things and was looking forward to taking a holiday with my nigeria money |
| 09:31.27 | Vlad| | probably had relatives |
| 09:32.29 | Vlad| | I kind of understand him, it's wrong but no clue of his reasons so can't judge his decision, on face value it looks wrong and it is but, yeah, I can't fully support either side in the case until I know more :P |
| 09:32.41 | Vlad| | hey karl_w_w |
| 09:32.46 | Vlad| | what does your _w_w stand for? :P |
| 09:33.00 | karl_w_w | I'm a big willy wonka fan |
| 09:33.32 | Vlad| | hehe |
| 09:34.12 | Vlad| | pet size comparison |
| 09:34.17 | Vlad| | gnome versus stitched pup |
| 09:34.45 | Vlad| | http://i.imgur.com/X70U2.jpg |
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| 09:35.08 | karl_w_w | lol |
| 09:35.21 | Vlad| | he eats gnomes for breakfast |
| 09:36.58 | karl_w_w | I've never seen gnomes in a particularly sexual light, personally |
| 09:37.51 | Vlad| | I have nothing against any race in-game |
| 09:38.13 | karl_w_w | is that so |
| 09:40.38 | pompy | zenzelezz: that story isnt showin up in google! |
| 09:41.45 | pompy | ohh but this is . http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/11/23/us-sweden-crime-idUSBRE8AM0AP20121123 |
| 09:47.29 | jnwhiteh | p3lim: I answered your git submodule question in IRC when you asked |
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| 10:09.13 | bluworkcow | kk i go homes nows |
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| 10:23.33 | Vlad| | page closed, I guess web irc? :3 |
| 10:24.43 | Vlad| | pompy: your article, maybe it's time to withdraw weapons of anyone traumatized by said event just to be on the safe side they won't go crazy and kill someone else too? |
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| 10:25.51 | Vlad| | what he... that guy is nuts :P |
| 10:26.11 | Vlad| | killed people in 2003, 2009 and 2010... |
| 10:40.39 | pompy | yeah |
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| 10:48.46 | Vlad| | some people are just damaged |
| 10:48.59 | Vlad| | not much you can do except spot them and keep an eye on them for many years to come |
| 10:49.07 | Vlad| | you never know when they may snap and try to kill someone else once again |
| 11:13.28 | karl_w_w | i blizzard's logic |
| 11:13.47 | karl_w_w | i like* |
| 11:14.26 | karl_w_w | "we have limited the availability of brawler's guild invites because we don't want too many people doing it early on" |
| 11:15.04 | karl_w_w | 1 month later "the brawler's guild is crz because it's better when there's more people there" |
| 11:21.30 | nevcairiel | both make sense, the first limits the overall amount, the second one just makes sure you're not alone in the place and have something to watch too |
| 11:21.50 | nevcairiel | especially in like the first week |
| 11:22.05 | karl_w_w | so what is the benefit of limiting the overall amount? |
| 11:22.06 | nevcairiel | when i went there last night there were maybe 10 people there |
| 11:22.12 | nevcairiel | including crz |
| 11:22.14 | nevcairiel | so not much |
| 11:25.23 | znf | ours is overcrowded already |
| 11:25.34 | znf | but good luck getting a "cheap" invite |
| 11:25.42 | znf | they're going for 70k... |
| 11:29.41 | karl_w_w | i have the high bid on one |
| 11:29.45 | karl_w_w | at 44k :P |
| 11:30.04 | karl_w_w | had |
| 11:30.24 | Vlad| | http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/32a8hlpojowemz5v/sum/damageDone/?s=4557&e=5097#Database |
| 11:30.36 | Vlad| | and I tank :p |
| 11:31.10 | karl_w_w | 51k* |
| 11:36.35 | karl_w_w | that's nothing Vlad| |
| 11:36.41 | karl_w_w | I've seen tanks do 200k |
| 11:36.47 | Vlad| | lol |
| 11:36.48 | karl_w_w | on alysraxor |
| 11:36.52 | karl_w_w | zor* |
| 11:36.56 | Vlad| | that specific boss |
| 11:36.57 | Vlad| | herp derp |
| 11:37.17 | Vlad| | I have done 380k dps on trash |
| 11:37.19 | Vlad| | :P |
| 11:37.33 | Vlad| | just give me enough mobs to swipe and trash |
| 11:44.22 | Vlad| | premade much http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/xqze505fee0w5a73/?s=2568&e=2765 ?:P |
| 11:44.28 | Vlad| | probably full HC geared hehe |
| 11:50.20 | Vlad| | karl_w_w what are you doing? |
| 11:51.13 | karl_w_w | nothing atm |
| 11:51.22 | karl_w_w | wondering why i cant blink when stunned anymore |
| 11:51.30 | karl_w_w | i blame the shit new loss of control crap |
| 11:52.06 | Vlad| | hmm |
| 11:52.13 | Vlad| | silence effect? |
| 11:52.52 | karl_w_w | possibly |
| 11:53.02 | karl_w_w | its not like u can tell when half ur ui is blocked out |
| 11:57.01 | Vlad| | you can turn this off tough |
| 11:57.05 | Vlad| | in the interface options :3 |
| 12:00.10 | karl_w_w | not all of it |
| 12:04.02 | Vlad| | bah! |
| 12:04.23 | Vlad| | the issue with pvp queue is you first request the BG you wish to queue for, then PVPQUEUE_ANYWHERE_SHOW fires to tell you "yeah you can now click the queue button" |
| 12:04.35 | Vlad| | meaning you can't with one button press select the BG and queue >.< |
| 12:04.53 | Vlad| | and it probably must be a hardware event otherwise doing PVPFrameLeftButton:Click() is blocked |
| 12:06.34 | Vlad| | they also made that the queue dropdown doesn't like to be shown when you show it triggering ToggleDropDownMenu :P |
| 12:06.45 | Vlad| | the taint will go apeshit and break the queue buttons hehe |
| 12:09.17 | Vlad| | karl_w_w hhg me :( |
| 12:09.18 | Vlad| | hug |
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| 12:10.42 | Vlad| | if you modify anything directly related in the PVPFrame it breaks :D |
| 12:11.50 | Vlad| | PVPHonorFrame.selectedIsWorldPvp = false and BOM PVPFrame broken :D |
| 12:11.56 | Vlad| | can't queue anymore ;D |
| 12:12.17 | Vlad| | blizzard really wanna stop people from having addons to group queue :D |
| 12:15.24 | karl_w_w | our 10 man will have 4 priests this week |
| 12:15.31 | Vlad| | oh |
| 12:15.34 | Vlad| | is that a bad thing? |
| 12:16.12 | karl_w_w | dont know |
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| 12:19.34 | Vlad| | :D |
| 12:20.16 | bluspacecow | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:20.31 | Vlad| | my smart phone lasts a bit over 2 days, my old nokia N78 lasts over a week :P |
| 12:20.59 | Vlad| | and yes I have turned off everything I don't need and stopped many services, along with using no widgets and black everywhere to save LCD power :P |
| 12:22.14 | bluspacecow | http://herestothecrazies.tumblr.com/post/29422985826/puppyluver43 |
| 12:22.20 | bluspacecow | puppai |
| 12:22.20 | Vlad| | I wish they made a "power pack", some versions of the phone were bigger in the back just for more battery duration :D |
| 12:22.44 | Vlad| | yeah |
| 12:22.49 | Vlad| | looks delicious |
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| 12:24.31 | Vlad| | lol :P |
| 12:24.41 | Vlad| | orcon.net.nz |
| 12:24.44 | Vlad| | new zealand? |
| 12:25.37 | bluspacecow | lol |
| 12:26.35 | bluspacecow | cdi.no ? |
| 12:26.41 | bluspacecow | *gasp- |
| 12:26.48 | bluspacecow | you mean your not american ? |
| 12:27.15 | Fisker | what the shit bluspacecow |
| 12:27.18 | Fisker | i queued up for MSC |
| 12:27.20 | Fisker | MSV* |
| 12:27.23 | bluspacecow | u mad? |
| 12:27.25 | Fisker | yes |
| 12:27.31 | Fisker | then i couldn't be bothered waiting for queue |
| 12:27.35 | Fisker | so i queued for a scenario instead |
| 12:27.41 | Fisker | and i completed it |
| 12:27.54 | Fisker | now i'm just idling in Orgrimmar and a queue for the Dread Approach pops up? |
| 12:27.55 | Fisker | wut |
| 12:28.15 | bluspacecow | wot |
| 12:29.34 | Vlad| | cdi.no = canal digital . no |
| 12:30.09 | Fisker | yep bluspacecow |
| 12:30.14 | Fisker | how do you figure Vlad| ? |
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| 12:30.48 | Vlad| | I asked him earlier about his join info, it said orcon.net.nz |
| 12:30.53 | Vlad| | but .nz is a weird domain |
| 12:31.00 | Vlad| | I guessed it maybe stands for new zealand? |
| 12:31.37 | Vlad| | then he said cdi.no and laughed so I assumed he meant my ISP domain :P |
| 12:32.42 | Vlad| | Fisker: is that what you wondered? |
| 12:33.24 | Fisker | oh ok Vlad| |
| 12:33.41 | Vlad| | :P |
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| 12:38.10 | Neffi | Anyone good with AutoHotkey? |
| 12:43.19 | lcd | It's a doom's day scare. Put it off for one more day. |
| 12:49.45 | karl_w_w | 67k dps on sha of fear |
| 12:49.48 | karl_w_w | sup with that |
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| 14:03.42 | Fisker | haste |
| 14:03.45 | Fisker | stop being a swedish guild |
| 14:03.52 | bluspacecow | lol |
| 14:09.22 | neutronimity | Is there an addon for battlegrounds that automates whispers asking players to reply anything, and list non-replying players after ~1 min in Battleground chat? |
| 14:10.04 | neutronimity | If not, I'll go ahead and try to write a timeline for myself. |
| 14:11.04 | zenzelezz | for what purpose? |
| 14:11.27 | neutronimity | Getting people aware of possible bots, and reporting them. |
| 14:11.50 | zenzelezz | what about the players who just don't like people who send whispers like that? |
| 14:13.07 | neutronimity | Ideally the addon user should be able to remove them manually from the suspects list after observing their "human" behavior :p .. at least that is what I am thinking. |
| 14:13.56 | neutronimity | I think they wouldn't say no to a very polite message, though. :) |
| 14:16.48 | zenzelezz | I would, but I'm perhaps in the minority |
| 14:17.41 | neutronimity | How come you wouldn't like it? |
| 14:18.16 | zenzelezz | I don't like when people treat everyone like suspects |
| 14:18.27 | AcidWeb | Also that it just spam. |
| 14:18.31 | zenzelezz | I'd sooner report the addon user for harrassment if it happened more than once |
| 14:18.49 | neutronimity | hmm |
| 14:18.52 | karl_w_w | http://www.cracked.com/article_20091_the-5-most-hilariously-misguided-comic-book-adaptations.html |
| 14:19.26 | zenzelezz | neutronimity: do note that I in no way claim that a lot of people are like me |
| 14:20.56 | neutronimity | Obviously there will be people with different views, and I do agree that it sounds very much like labeling suspects. |
| 14:21.55 | neutronimity | I'm not liking that what I'd thought up suddenly turns into a mistrust .. tool |
| 14:23.15 | karl_w_w | is it me or does that list stop at 3? |
| 14:23.22 | karl_w_w | where's 2 and 1 |
| 14:24.09 | neutronimity | I didn't think though that it would be harassment if I whispered every one once per BG if I asked politely whether or not they were a bot .. any answer would be acceptable. |
| 14:24.17 | Semlar | neutronomimity: i'm not about to reply to someone asking if i'm a bot, so i wouldn't imagine this would go over that well |
| 14:24.26 | karl_w_w | ^ |
| 14:24.31 | Semlar | if more than one person did it oh man |
| 14:24.44 | karl_w_w | you know who would reply to questions on whether they're a bot? bots would |
| 14:24.52 | neutronimity | If more than one person had the addon? |
| 14:24.53 | Semlar | THAT'S JUST WHAT A BOT WOULD SAY! |
| 14:25.23 | neutronimity | I don't think bots would be coded accordingly :p |
| 14:25.35 | Semlar | they would be if it made a difference |
| 14:26.01 | neutronimity | True |
| 14:26.19 | haste | Fisker: stop being a norwegian guild then |
| 14:26.42 | Fisker | i'm not? |
| 14:26.49 | Semlar | there's already a system in place for checking if someone is a bot without them saying anything |
| 14:27.26 | Semlar | and i think there are already addons that auto report people |
| 14:27.58 | neutronimity | The addon would be sort of band-aid. And I never, uhm, intended to auto-report. |
| 14:28.19 | Semlar | which is ironic if you think about it, automating the process |
| 14:29.53 | neutronimity | I sort of meant to make players aware of possible bots - make them use their judgement to determine whether or not the remaining people who have not replied are bots or not .. |
| 14:31.38 | neutronimity | Suppose it would be both viewed as spam and harassment if I whisper everyone 1 time per BG, and say something like 5/10 confirmed to be players in BG chat, making people aware that there's a check for non-players going on |
| 14:31.45 | Semlar | i would try to find a less intrusive method |
| 14:31.51 | neutronimity | Such as? |
| 14:32.06 | neutronimity | Well, of course, try. Uhmm. |
| 14:32.22 | Semlar | make educated assumptions based on observations that don't require feedback |
| 14:32.38 | neutronimity | Such as looking for movement. |
| 14:32.51 | Semlar | score |
| 14:33.26 | bluspacecow | *recodes bot to randomly move around* |
| 14:33.37 | Semlar | it's going to be randomly moving |
| 14:33.49 | bluspacecow | nope.jpg |
| 14:33.59 | bluspacecow | it's going to moving to the beat of random itunes song |
| 14:34.01 | bluspacecow | win. |
| 14:34.23 | neutronimity | Well - that would be too pattern-y :) |
| 14:35.00 | Semlar | you might be able to get some hint as to whether it's a bot from its scores and the time since the start of the game but you certainly wouldn't be able to know for sure |
| 14:35.02 | neutronimity | Uhm, say, we got to look at movement. |
| 14:35.41 | neutronimity | I've seen bots healing and doing damage, so nothing from there. |
| 14:36.00 | Semlar | yeah but if they're doing it well does it matter |
| 14:36.19 | Semlar | i just mean keep an eye on players that are doing poorly |
| 14:36.38 | neutronimity | Think if they all stood nice in front of the flag and never pick it up everyone would be happy. |
| 14:38.54 | Semlar | i came up with a way to make my addon a lot more efficient by caching things but it makes it use a lot more memory :( |
| 14:40.00 | neutronimity | I think I've tried bit before, with checking movements and so. |
| 14:40.22 | neutronimity | I asked publically in BG chat, %t, are you a bot? And received no reply. |
| 14:40.57 | neutronimity | Think I would perhaps gotten a reply in Whisper, not sure. |
| 14:43.36 | neutronimity | I sort of want to handle it like a checklist, and do it thorough. |
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| 15:06.53 | Ennea | i just noticed something strange i couldn't really find an explanation for, but i'm rather curious |
| 15:07.11 | Ennea | bagnon broke with 5.1, and combuctor (which i used before) was outdated for a little while longer before |
| 15:07.28 | Ennea | now, someone on wowi has written a comment on bagnon that it's now being maintained on curse, which seems to be true |
| 15:07.36 | Ennea | and combuctor seems to be up to date over there as well |
| 15:07.41 | Ennea | now, my question: what the hell? |
| 15:08.37 | ccox | http://cheezburger.com/6773562880 |
| 15:08.47 | Semlar | sounds like the author felt like moving to curse |
| 15:09.05 | Ennea | they're both tuller's |
| 15:09.20 | Ennea | and jaliborc's, apparently |
| 15:09.38 | Ennea | who i don't even know. i was under the assumption that they were only tuller's. i wonder what happened |
| 15:11.01 | nevcairiel | tuller gave some of his addons to jaliborc for maintaining, and he only uploads to curse |
| 15:11.04 | nevcairiel | mistery solved! |
| 15:11.18 | Semlar | we need a reverse curse client for authors |
| 15:11.59 | Semlar | that's probably the only way i'd maintain something on TWO whole websites |
| 15:12.03 | Ennea | nevcairiel, apparently, yea |
| 15:12.04 | Ennea | bugs me a bit.. |
| 15:12.41 | nevcairiel | if i were to upload my stuff to only one site, it would be curse, it just has the bigger audience |
| 15:12.58 | Semlar | and it has bonus points |
| 15:13.01 | Semlar | BONUS POINTS!!! |
| 15:13.04 | nevcairiel | indeed |
| 15:13.13 | nevcairiel | i get quite a load of money from that |
| 15:13.14 | Ennea | i only upload to wowi ;p |
| 15:13.54 | Semlar | i have one addon on curse and like 6 on wow interface |
| 15:14.05 | Semlar | and the one on curse has more downloads than all of them combined |
| 15:14.07 | Ennea | i can understand why one would only upload to curse |
| 15:14.22 | Ennea | but if you agree to maintain addons that have a big "audience" on wowi as well |
| 15:14.25 | Ennea | it seems awkward |
| 15:17.04 | Semlar | how come i can get this pixel perfect as long as i don't make it a child of this other frame, i'm just dividing by the effective scale |
| 15:19.02 | Semlar | i just want it to stop looking so bad ;_; |
| 15:29.02 | Ennea | on an unrelated note, how come i can't see my trueshot aura in my buffs anymore since 5.1? entirely passive effect with no buff at all now? |
| 15:30.44 | Semlar | is it like a stance now? |
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| 15:31.22 | Semlar | or can you turn it off at all |
| 15:32.10 | Ennea | you couldn't before either |
| 15:32.22 | Ennea | making it a stance would require it making an aspect |
| 15:32.30 | Ennea | prior to 5.1, though, it'd still be visible as a buff |
| 15:32.35 | Ennea | which couldn't be cancelled ;p |
| 15:34.51 | Semlar | interesting |
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| 15:43.42 | nebula169 | i like the curse packager, so i do most things primarily on curse, then download a copy i tag and put it on wowi, too |
| 15:44.14 | nebula169 | usually pretty neglectful in that regard, though |
| 15:46.36 | Ennea | i don't really like curse's complex site layout |
| 15:46.54 | Ennea | haven't used it or the curse client for a long while now |
| 15:47.02 | Ennea | can you upload your addons using the curse client? |
| 15:47.11 | nebula169 | nop |
| 15:47.17 | Ennea | that's a shem |
| 15:47.19 | Ennea | *shame |
| 15:47.21 | Ennea | the fuck, brain |
| 15:47.28 | nebula169 | i don't use curse, i just use wowace/curseforge |
| 15:47.37 | nevcairiel | why would you want that bloated client to be used as an upload tool |
| 15:47.39 | nevcairiel | thats just backwards |
| 15:48.37 | Ennea | nevcairiel, it would be a perfect reason to never use the website again ;p |
| 15:48.53 | nevcairiel | you dont have to visit curse.com at all to host your addon on curse |
| 15:49.15 | nevcairiel | you use wowace.com or curseforge.com, seperate websites with a completely different setup |
| 15:49.54 | Ennea | hmm, interesting |
| 16:07.57 | Semlar | is there any difference in performance between ipairs and pairs on a numerically indexed table |
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| 16:08.47 | End_ | I would assume ipairs is faster because it doesn't have to skip over empty entries in the hash table, but you could test it and find out |
| 16:09.16 | End_ | although |
| 16:09.28 | End_ | typically a numerically indexed will be stored internally as an array |
| 16:10.40 | nebula169 | pairs is faster, ipairs just makes things happen in order |
| 16:11.06 | Semlar | hm |
| 16:11.25 | Semlar | the website i was looking at claims ipairs is faster than pairs and a numerical for loop is fastest |
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| 16:12.04 | nebula169 | on smaller tables sure, but the difference is usually pretty trivial |
| 16:12.08 | Semlar | it probably makes very little difference |
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| 16:17.39 | End_ | just tested it on a 10000 elemental table, and the website you were looking at matches my results |
| 16:17.48 | End_ | element* |
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| 16:18.26 | Semlar | i'm actually removing elements as i go so i don't think a for loop is a good idea |
| 16:18.27 | Vlad| | isn't ipairs quicker since all it does is an alias 'for for x = 1, #t do' |
| 16:18.38 | nebula169 | except it doesn't |
| 16:18.48 | Vlad| | tell me the details :D |
| 16:19.21 | End_ | ipairs works like any other iterator...it returns another function which does the actual iteration |
| 16:19.43 | Vlad| | yes but comparing to pairs I'd guess ipairs is quicker |
| 16:21.05 | Semlar | my textures wiggle when they're scaled down even though they aren't moving anywhere |
| 16:21.24 | Semlar | the scrollframe must be doing something funny |
| 16:21.30 | nebula169 | like i said its not, can't find the pil entry for it i remember, but it does something else, pairs is just next, t, nil, but ipairs does something like ordering the table, then returning untli n and n+1 are nil |
| 16:21.38 | End_ | no |
| 16:21.52 | nebula169 | whereas next just goes until it has nothing else to return |
| 16:22.10 | Vlad| | so 'for k = 1, #t do local v = t[k] end' is quicker than ipairs |
| 16:22.14 | nebula169 | yes |
| 16:22.24 | Vlad| | that I kind of knew ;3 |
| 16:22.28 | End_ | ipairs returns its own iterator that just increments the last index and checks for nil |
| 16:22.29 | Vlad| | but nice to get confirmation |
| 16:22.36 | nebula169 | using i/pairs just makes it look nicer :p |
| 16:22.40 | End_ | so no reordering needed |
| 16:22.53 | Vlad| | I think I found a bug btw... |
| 16:24.12 | Vlad| | I am doing the Horde pet battle quests, to battle the NPCs around the world and such. |
| 16:24.28 | Vlad| | I finished it yesterday (I login Horde, accept it, login my Alliance and fly around) |
| 16:24.41 | Vlad| | but today I logged in my Horde just to check some lua code and I could accept it again... |
| 16:24.55 | Vlad| | so I am doing it all over again... so weird |
| 16:25.07 | Vlad| | the "Battle Pet Tamers: Kalimdor" quest :P |
| 16:25.14 | Semlar | hey vlad, have an addon http://semlar.com/Loupe.zip |
| 16:25.28 | Vlad| | I DLed it yesterday, did you update? :3 |
| 16:25.31 | Semlar | yeah |
| 16:25.46 | Semlar | i made it work more efficiently but use more memory |
| 16:26.22 | Semlar | and i think i got the border to stop resizing itself |
| 16:27.03 | Vlad| | felt a bit trippy :D |
| 16:27.11 | Vlad| | the textures move in a funny way - but it's nice |
| 16:27.15 | Semlar | yeah they do |
| 16:27.20 | Semlar | and i have no idea why |
| 16:27.36 | Semlar | oh if you hold control it fills up the whole area |
| 16:28.39 | Vlad| | nice :3 |
| 16:28.39 | Vlad| | btw |
| 16:29.19 | Vlad| | if you look at deepholm |
| 16:29.35 | Vlad| | the minimap textures are from the old version, because I have been outside the map on the new and many of the things are gone now :O |
| 16:29.58 | Semlar | they must cover it up somehow |
| 16:30.18 | Semlar | oh, no i know what they do |
| 16:30.18 | Vlad| | there are some pallet testing areas and some statues randomly places |
| 16:30.20 | Vlad| | placed* |
| 16:30.30 | Vlad| | also there is a mario sunshine logo outside the map :P |
| 16:31.12 | Semlar | well, i know they have a list of minimap tiles in the dbc file which they use for the various areas |
| 16:31.29 | Semlar | so i think they only display the ones on the list in-game |
| 16:31.38 | Vlad| | http://i.imgur.com/axFC2.jpg |
| 16:31.46 | Semlar | i see. |
| 16:31.49 | Vlad| | ogre on a gorilla on a camel :P |
| 16:32.21 | Vlad| | when you mounted your passenger mount and someone clicked on you and you dismounted quick enough, they ended on your head :p |
| 16:32.21 | Semlar | i don't really care about deepholm that much but i also don't know if there's anything much i can do about it |
| 16:33.04 | Semlar | i would like the textures to stop moving though |
| 16:33.16 | Vlad| | it's perfectly fine ;) |
| 16:33.20 | Semlar | even though it gives it a more realistic magnifying glass effect |
| 16:33.21 | Vlad| | moving textures I am not so sure about :P |
| 16:33.25 | Vlad| | yeah it did |
| 16:33.30 | Vlad| | can you make it move even more? :P |
| 16:33.36 | Vlad| | for the ultimate realism effect |
| 16:33.40 | Semlar | i could change the scale |
| 16:33.52 | Semlar | that would do it |
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| 16:34.38 | Semlar | i think it's being caused by the scrollframe somehow |
| 16:35.10 | Vlad| | if the texture is tiny and scaled it moves a bit |
| 16:35.13 | Vlad| | same happens with my nameplates |
| 16:35.30 | Vlad| | if I move the camera aroud and the game moves the frames sometimes I see weird texture resizing going on :P |
| 16:36.22 | Semlar | not sure if i can do anything about it |
| 16:36.37 | Semlar | it's probably another scaling issue |
| 16:36.38 | p3lim | jnwhiteh: I don't see a reply |
| 16:39.09 | Vlad| | Semlar: Loupe shows above the surface in vashjir |
| 16:39.10 | Vlad| | :3 |
| 16:39.44 | Semlar | well that's the part you see from the air isn't it |
| 16:40.35 | Vlad| | yeah |
| 16:40.37 | Vlad| | but :( |
| 16:40.45 | Semlar | i can only display one or the other and this way is less effort |
| 16:40.46 | Vlad| | would it show the proper map if I go underwater in vashjir? |
| 16:40.50 | Vlad| | :3 |
| 16:40.53 | Semlar | no |
| 16:41.20 | Vlad| | seen this in vashjir before? http://i.imgur.com/3LBpy.jpg |
| 16:41.27 | Vlad| | kind of creepy |
| 16:41.43 | Semlar | dead stuff |
| 16:42.04 | Semlar | http://i.imgur.com/KF9qK.jpg |
| 16:42.04 | Vlad| | why the azeroth planet globe thing? :< |
| 16:42.14 | Vlad| | hehe |
| 16:42.29 | Semlar | azeroth planet globe thing? |
| 16:43.10 | Vlad| | same model |
| 16:43.11 | Vlad| | :P |
| 16:43.14 | Vlad| | sphere |
| 16:43.25 | Semlar | i also don't know if my textures are going to show up over player dots or anything because of the frame level |
| 16:43.50 | Semlar | i need to figure out how to properly sandwich it in between the map and everything that goes on top of it |
| 16:43.50 | Vlad| | some maps are like this |
| 16:44.12 | Semlar | i mean there isn't any place to put it, i'd have to move everything else |
| 16:44.54 | Vlad| | tiny "bug" of artwork showing above (blizzards fault :P) and also a bonus image of the Foxicopter = http://i.imgur.com/c7nVy.jpg |
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| 16:45.18 | Semlar | that's from me hiding a missing texture |
| 16:45.19 | Vlad| | Feralas also has this similar texture |
| 16:45.21 | Vlad| | :D |
| 16:45.34 | Vlad| | yeah blizzards puts over hiding textures |
| 16:45.37 | Vlad| | for some zones |
| 16:45.42 | Semlar | you can go to teldrassil and hit ctrl for the same thing |
| 16:46.00 | Vlad| | you could do the same, a overlay for those maps with weird minimap textureS :P |
| 16:46.04 | Vlad| | deepholm, wsg, e.g. |
| 16:46.30 | Semlar | i'm hiding the missing textures rather than leaving it neon green |
| 16:46.45 | jnwhiteh | p3lim: it was in IRC< as I said |
| 16:46.47 | jnwhiteh | after the question was initially raise |
| 16:46.49 | jnwhiteh | but I'll look at it again |
| 16:46.53 | Semlar | ideally it would be filled in with water but what i want to do is a little complicated |
| 16:47.07 | Vlad| | http://i38.tinypic.com/2wcqzv6.jpg |
| 16:47.11 | Vlad| | deepholm mario sunshine logo :P |
| 16:47.28 | Semlar | no minimap |
| 16:47.38 | Vlad| | what? |
| 16:47.57 | Vlad| | it's outside the map area |
| 16:48.03 | Semlar | do you have a screenshot of the minimap out there |
| 16:48.12 | Vlad| | nope :( |
| 16:48.17 | Vlad| | I think it was transparent |
| 16:48.21 | Vlad| | because it's far outside the map |
| 16:48.26 | Vlad| | i.e. no textures generated |
| 16:48.28 | Semlar | i have to figure out how to stop these textures from moving it's driving me insane |
| 16:49.04 | Semlar | if you comment out the if tileSize < 50 or tileSize > 500 then block you can get it to show up on the continents |
| 16:49.36 | Vlad| | that would be fun :3 |
| 16:50.29 | Semlar | it does show up over the highlight texture and stuff |
| 16:52.37 | Semlar | it does it less the larger the textures are |
| 16:53.53 | Vlad| | an idea for the final release |
| 16:54.04 | Vlad| | option to preload all textures at loading sequence :P |
| 16:54.23 | Vlad| | maybe not required but would make navigation more smooth when not having to load stuff as you navigate |
| 16:54.33 | Vlad| | but on the other hand if you have a SSD it wouldn't mater kind of |
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| 16:55.48 | Semlar | i think the reason it's using so much memory is because it's creating like 4000 textures and holding them in the cache |
| 16:56.20 | Semlar | still it isn't really going over 2mb with all of the maps |
| 16:57.11 | Semlar | it doesn't need to create that many textures, it could be smarter about it |
| 16:57.39 | Semlar | since i'm not supporting continents anyway |
| 16:58.34 | Semlar | the way it is now it serves to preload the entire continent's textures before you navigate to the zone |
| 16:59.06 | Semlar | so any delay there is at the zone is probably unavoidable |
| 16:59.16 | Vlad| | it's more useful for maps like your other map project, carbonite like maps :P |
| 16:59.46 | Semlar | it certainly gave me an idea for how to make drawing this more efficient in the other map |
| 17:00.04 | Semlar | or at least without any flicker |
| 17:02.02 | Vlad| | here is an impossible sugestion for Loupe |
| 17:02.04 | Semlar | i'm not sure if i made it show/hide itself in all the proper situations |
| 17:02.30 | Vlad| | when the yellow quest circles (pois or blobs? not sure what was the yellow objective icons, anyway) ... make those scale down so you can see trough :P |
| 17:02.46 | Vlad| | i.e. you see them but they don't take up all the space on the map so you can look at the other textures behind them hehe |
| 17:03.02 | Semlar | just when they're inside the loupe? |
| 17:03.14 | Vlad| | yeah |
| 17:03.28 | Semlar | you mean like swap them for their minimap icon |
| 17:03.36 | Vlad| | look how large they are atm http://i.imgur.com/ouptW.jpg |
| 17:03.41 | Vlad| | :D |
| 17:04.06 | Vlad| | is it possible with an option to make the loupe area actually zoom in a bit too? |
| 17:04.13 | Semlar | they also show up over the area text which i thought was interesting |
| 17:05.23 | Semlar | i could make it bigger but it might be a little weird |
| 17:05.28 | Semlar | http://i.imgur.com/9YsER.jpg |
| 17:06.59 | Vlad| | gosh there are so many preferences you must consider on addons like this :( |
| 17:07.04 | Vlad| | must be a hell for you |
| 17:07.48 | Semlar | the only part that's bothering me right now are these stupid textures |
| 17:07.59 | Semlar | WHY DO YOU TAUNT ME |
| 17:09.25 | Semlar | i don't think the other version did this but i'm not sure because the textures flickered as they loaded |
| 17:10.53 | Semlar | it would be possible to not use a scrollframe for this but you'd end up flickering again |
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| 17:12.44 | Semlar | i'm trying to decide how much work it would be to put the entire map inside of a scrollframe that's positioned on top of it |
| 17:15.09 | Semlar | i'm pretty sure i could enable scroll scaling on the map but i'd have to somehow position the scrollframe based on where the map used to be |
| 17:18.53 | Semlar | i wonder if i should just make the terrain tiles show up under the overlay textures like the hybrid map i had before http://i.imgur.com/SlyFA.jpg |
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| 17:20.03 | Vlad| | asdhehe |
| 17:20.21 | Vlad| | boils down to preference :D |
| 17:20.39 | Semlar | it might be prettier |
| 17:21.11 | Semlar | if i did that i would probably have to fix the water |
| 17:21.37 | Semlar | and i think places like deepholm are a lost cause |
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| 18:02.02 | Vlad| | <3 |
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| 18:26.51 | tlund | someone - please prove me wrong here - I claim that there is not a single working LDB-provider for the calendar data that is correct. |
| 18:27.37 | tlund | They all confuse start and end of events - for example claiming that wows 8th anneversery STARTS today when, in fact, it ENDS today. |
| 18:31.47 | Seerah | shrugs |
| 18:31.52 | Seerah | I don't use anything for the calendar |
| 18:37.35 | Semlar | i have a question about frame levels |
| 18:37.53 | Seerah | I may or may not have an answer :p |
| 18:38.16 | Semlar | i created a frame as a child of WorldMapDetailFrame which is the frame that holds the map textures |
| 18:38.50 | Semlar | and was able to create textures on MY frame and still make them show up under the map overlays by using CreateTexture(nil, 'ARTWORK', nil, -1) |
| 18:39.28 | Semlar | but i need to put my frame inside of yet another frame, and i cannot get the frame level to work the same way |
| 18:40.11 | Semlar | i tried setting both of them to the same frame level of the WorldMapDetailFrame but they show up over everything |
| 18:40.52 | Seerah | did you try a frame level less than -1? |
| 18:41.21 | Semlar | yeah i tried -7 and even changing artwork to background |
| 18:41.39 | Seerah | frame levels are fun to work with |
| 18:41.48 | Semlar | :( |
| 18:42.23 | Seerah | iirc, if there are a bunch of things created on the same level, whichever is created last will be on top |
| 18:42.28 | Semlar | actually, its frame level appears to just be completely ignored while it's a child of a scrollframe |
| 18:42.52 | Semlar | i set it to 0 and it still shows up over everything |
| 18:43.29 | Semlar | it needs to be in a scrollframe so i can clip the textures though |
| 18:44.01 | Seerah | and what are you trying to make it below? |
| 18:44.09 | Seerah | *be below |
| 18:44.19 | Semlar | just the map overlays but above the background of the map |
| 18:44.25 | Semlar | i was able to pull this off with my overlay addon |
| 18:44.45 | Seerah | and why does it need to be in a scroll frame? |
| 18:44.52 | foxlit | tlund: calendar API is bad even on a good day. |
| 18:46.07 | Semlar | it needs to be in a scrollframe because the textures take up more space than the map but i don't want to calculate the texcoords for each one |
| 18:46.29 | Semlar | if i want this to work i'm probably going to have to |
| 18:46.34 | Seerah | yeah |
| 18:46.48 | Seerah | better to just do the math than come up with some voodoo magic ;) |
| 18:47.04 | foxlit | most important: |
| 18:47.08 | foxlit | don't come up with voodoo math. |
| 18:47.11 | foxlit | or you'll kill us all. |
| 18:47.22 | Semlar | oh i'll do voodoo math |
| 18:47.26 | Semlar | you can't stop me |
| 18:47.35 | foxlit | no, we're safe on that front. |
| 18:47.52 | foxlit | there's no danger of /you/ doing voodoo math :P |
| 18:48.02 | Semlar | aw |
| 18:48.34 | Semlar | i think you may be in more danger of me doing voodoo math because i just punch in random numbers until it works |
| 18:49.20 | foxlit | a regrettable state of affairs that is all too common |
| 18:49.39 | Seerah | 1/3 * 3 = 1 <---- voodoo maths! :o |
| 18:49.47 | Semlar | you can't expect me to actually understand what i'm doing |
| 18:51.21 | Semlar | http://i.imgur.com/yDx3T.jpg could they have made any more of a mess of deepholm's minimap textures |
| 18:51.28 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:52.01 | tlund | foxlit: no, it clerly states in a return variable if the data returned is for "START", "END" or "ONGOING" - one of the addons (that i just patched to support that) just threw that data away. |
| 18:52.30 | foxlit | okay, so different issues. |
| 18:52.38 | Seerah | well, you could give a patch to the authors instead of complaining about it then ;) |
| 18:52.50 | tlund | the second add on i just patched did not work on sundays (because sunday is day "0", not day "1") and did not work in december, because the localization had both novmber and december as "11" :) |
| 18:52.55 | foxlit | For me, the calendar bugs to sometimes display the entirely wrong dates for events, and fails to display guild events that do exists. |
| 18:53.00 | tlund | Seerah: they are not maintained :( |
| 18:53.13 | tlund | Seerah: the one i patched first, last updated 2009 and removed from curse |
| 18:53.40 | tlund | however, this last one myCalendarBroker.lua, after fixing the sunday/december thing - actually DOES get the start/end/current thing correct! |
| 18:54.06 | Seerah | so make your own calendar broker addon |
| 18:54.09 | tlund | i just couldn't see it before, since its december :) |
| 18:55.06 | tlund | hmm, can someone check what CalendarGetDate() returns? |
| 18:55.13 | Semlar | http://i.imgur.com/a4m20.jpg this is what it looks like outside of a scrollframe, i think i'll just leave it |
| 18:55.17 | tlund | its _saturday_ today, but mine returns "0" |
| 18:55.29 | tlund | wowwiki says it should return 1-7 |
| 18:55.48 | tlund | as does http://wowprogramming.com |
| 18:55.58 | Semlar | it returns 0 12 1 2012 |
| 18:56.13 | Seerah | someone else on the wowi forums was having a problem with that |
| 18:56.21 | tlund | Seerah: are you on an EU server? |
| 18:56.25 | Seerah | no |
| 18:56.29 | foxlit | It's not even sunday yet |
| 18:57.00 | tlund | exactly |
| 18:57.10 | tlund | its 8pm saturday in EU :) |
| 18:57.26 | Semlar | well something must know what day it is because the calendar highlights it |
| 18:57.45 | Seerah | did you look at the calendar code to see how? |
| 18:57.48 | tlund | the date is correct |
| 18:57.49 | foxlit | never used. |
| 18:57.53 | tlund | just not the day-of-the-week |
| 18:58.00 | tlund | Seerah: not yet |
| 18:58.11 | tlund | comparing 3 different addons to each other right now :) |
| 18:58.20 | tlund | trying to figure out what one i want to patch :) |
| 18:58.29 | Semlar | well i mean it knows the first of the month is a saturday at least |
| 18:58.40 | tlund | Seerah: yeah |
| 18:58.43 | tlund | sorry, wrong tab |
| 19:01.30 | Vlad| | what does iirc man? |
| 19:01.37 | Semlar | if i recall correctly |
| 19:01.50 | Vlad| | I always thought it was irc only with a typo :P |
| 19:02.22 | Vlad| | ~api Date |
| 19:02.22 | purl | !api Date |
| 19:02.24 | lua_bot | Found 227 possible matches for 'Date'. Please be more specific or check Google search results: http://is.gd/O6LG29 |
| 19:03.05 | Vlad| | I am on EU too |
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| 19:03.24 | Vlad| | doing /dump CalendarGetDate() returned "0 12 1 2012" |
| 19:03.52 | Vlad| | weekday shouldn't be 0 :P |
| 19:03.53 | Semlar | CalendarGetMonth returns the day it starts on |
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| 19:04.08 | Semlar | so from there you can figure out any day of the month |
| 19:04.39 | Vlad| | yeah but |
| 19:04.46 | Vlad| | why is weekday 0 when the documentation says 1-7? |
| 19:04.55 | Semlar | i'm guessing it's broken |
| 19:05.03 | Vlad| | yeah :P |
| 19:05.14 | Semlar | especially since it doesn't appear to get used anywhere |
| 19:05.36 | Vlad| | are CVars saved on the server? :3 |
| 19:06.17 | Vlad| | I mean stuff like if your cloak is hidden or not, wasn't it cvar? |
| 19:06.28 | Semlar | it's a cvar |
| 19:06.33 | Semlar | i know it's stored locally |
| 19:06.39 | Vlad| | hmm |
| 19:06.40 | Semlar | i don't know if it gets copied to the server though |
| 19:06.43 | Vlad| | so if I login at my friends |
| 19:06.49 | Vlad| | yeah :P |
| 19:06.55 | Vlad| | it should I mean otherwise it's very weird |
| 19:07.04 | Semlar | why |
| 19:07.18 | Vlad| | if I login at my friends my head/cloak would be the wrong option |
| 19:07.18 | Vlad| | :S |
| 19:07.24 | Vlad| | or colorblind option is also a cvar |
| 19:07.35 | Vlad| | if I turn it on at home and login at friends I'd need to turn it on there too and such |
| 19:07.42 | jnwhiteh | Hrm.. GetQuestsCompleted() is returning an empty table for me |
| 19:08.08 | Vlad| | not for me |
| 19:08.14 | Semlar | not for me and i haven't done any quests |
| 19:08.32 | Vlad| | what does it show on a clean level 1 char? :P |
| 19:08.44 | Semlar | i don't know i have a character on the ptr and it says 39 true |
| 19:08.50 | jnwhiteh | This is on a level 62 monk |
| 19:08.54 | jnwhiteh | who has been questing a lot =) |
| 19:08.58 | jnwhiteh | and it was working earlier :P |
| 19:09.18 | Vlad| | try relog |
| 19:09.20 | Semlar | you used to have to request the information but i think they got rid of that |
| 19:09.24 | Vlad| | before that |
| 19:09.32 | Vlad| | try IsQuestFlaggedCompleted(questID) |
| 19:09.38 | Vlad| | see if it returns the correct value ;) |
| 19:09.47 | jnwhiteh | then I have to come up with a quest I've done |
| 19:09.49 | jnwhiteh | :P |
| 19:09.50 | Vlad| | yeah |
| 19:09.57 | Vlad| | btw the table API still exists |
| 19:09.58 | Vlad| | it's handy ;) |
| 19:10.07 | Vlad| | to avoid for q=1,100000 do loop :P |
| 19:10.11 | jnwhiteh | ... the 'table' API? |
| 19:10.14 | Vlad| | and spam the IsQuest check |
| 19:10.15 | Vlad| | yeah |
| 19:10.16 | jnwhiteh | wtf are you on about? |
| 19:10.24 | Vlad| | GetQuestsCompleted() |
| 19:10.25 | Vlad| | :P |
| 19:10.28 | Vlad| | the table APi |
| 19:10.40 | jnwhiteh | .. |
| 19:10.42 | jnwhiteh | except it does not work |
| 19:10.49 | Semlar | i don't think you've ever had to loop through the quests like that |
| 19:11.01 | Vlad| | I know |
| 19:11.04 | Vlad| | I am just saying |
| 19:11.05 | Semlar | even when you had to request the information from the server it gave you a table |
| 19:11.14 | Vlad| | they left it in so we don't have to loop trough every single ID :P |
| 19:11.20 | jnwhiteh | ... |
| 19:11.24 | jnwhiteh | no? |
| 19:11.29 | jnwhiteh | they introduced the feature |
| 19:11.33 | jnwhiteh | the feature wasn't removed |
| 19:11.42 | jnwhiteh | there was no 'leaving it in to prevent the need to loop' |
| 19:11.44 | jnwhiteh | lol? |
| 19:11.47 | Vlad| | they removed the evemt nad the API that started a quest query |
| 19:11.53 | Vlad| | now it's all happening in the background |
| 19:11.53 | jnwhiteh | yes? |
| 19:11.56 | jnwhiteh | so? |
| 19:12.01 | jnwhiteh | that proves my point/ |
| 19:12.12 | Vlad| | all we need to do is just ask for the results with either having a specific quest query or returning us a table of all IDs |
| 19:12.16 | jnwhiteh | dude |
| 19:12.19 | Vlad| | I wasn't saying anything against you jnwhiteh :P |
| 19:12.21 | jnwhiteh | its been like that since they introduced the API |
| 19:12.26 | jnwhiteh | it has NOTHING to do with them removing the query event |
| 19:12.39 | Vlad| | I was merely saying they kept the API that returns the table with quests :P |
| 19:12.46 | jnwhiteh | yes. |
| 19:12.47 | jnwhiteh | why? |
| 19:13.01 | jnwhiteh | we're obviously all aware that it's there, that's the crux of my problem |
| 19:13.02 | jnwhiteh | it doesn't work |
| 19:13.08 | Vlad| | yeah |
| 19:13.12 | jnwhiteh | neither does checking for individual quests either |
| 19:13.16 | Vlad| | hmm |
| 19:13.19 | Vlad| | then you gotta relog |
| 19:13.22 | jnwhiteh | I already have |
| 19:13.24 | jnwhiteh | but thanks =) |
| 19:13.31 | Vlad| | then you gotta reboot your game |
| 19:13.33 | jnwhiteh | This isn't my first rodeo. |
| 19:13.33 | jnwhiteh | dude. |
| 19:13.35 | jnwhiteh | I have done all of this |
| 19:13.40 | jnwhiteh | I have been playing and writing addons since 2004 |
| 19:13.43 | Vlad| | then you gotta format your drive |
| 19:13.45 | Vlad| | :P |
| 19:13.46 | jnwhiteh | Don't give me call-center level tech support |
| 19:13.50 | jnwhiteh | or i'll flip my shit |
| 19:13.59 | Vlad| | have you tried to reboot your machine? |
| 19:14.03 | Vlad| | :P |
| 19:14.14 | jnwhiteh | ima stab a bitch |
| 19:14.18 | Vlad| | have you tried deleting your Interface and WTF folders? |
| 19:14.30 | Seerah | hands jnwhiteh some chocolate and gives him a hug |
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| 19:14.42 | Semlar | lol |
| 19:14.55 | Seerah | enjoyed your pictures of snow, btw :) |
| 19:15.00 | Vlad| | actually it would be hilarious if some addon has overidden the quest check API :P |
| 19:15.49 | Semlar | GetQuestsCompleted = function() return 'hahaha' end |
| 19:15.53 | Vlad| | :P |
| 19:16.08 | Vlad| | I mean, there are no other reasons it wouldn't work |
| 19:16.15 | Semlar | sure there are |
| 19:16.16 | Vlad| | must be some addon, if not then it's a weird issue. |
| 19:16.20 | Vlad| | probably server side |
| 19:16.27 | Semlar | you can't expect a blizzard function to actually work |
| 19:16.42 | jnwhiteh | indeed |
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| 19:17.07 | Vlad| | I can dream |
| 19:17.36 | Semlar | it's probably best you didn't |
| 19:17.42 | Vlad| | but yes you have a weird issue, jnwhiteh |
| 19:18.22 | jnwhiteh | ... |
| 19:18.23 | jnwhiteh | I KNOW |
| 19:18.26 | jnwhiteh | that's why I said something |
| 19:18.27 | jnwhiteh | fs. |
| 19:18.37 | Vlad| | what do you want us to do? |
| 19:18.41 | Vlad| | debug your wow.exe? :P |
| 19:18.47 | jnwhiteh | I don't use a fucking windows machines |
| 19:18.52 | Vlad| | wow.dmg |
| 19:18.53 | jnwhiteh | s/es/s/ |
| 19:18.57 | jnwhiteh | lol |
| 19:19.03 | jnwhiteh | i am gonna cut a bitch |
| 19:19.22 | Vlad| | imagine jnwhiteh when there is a issue with some API that is actually important |
| 19:19.26 | jnwhiteh | I was merely mentioning my extremely odd issue here to see if anyone had previously experienced anything like it. |
| 19:19.28 | Vlad| | he'd be killing people all over the place |
| 19:19.35 | jnwhiteh | The API isn't the issue |
| 19:19.38 | jnwhiteh | your ignorance is |
| 19:19.43 | jnwhiteh | its driving me fucking batty |
| 19:19.48 | Vlad| | sorry |
| 19:20.07 | jnwhiteh | i doubt you mean it to happen |
| 19:20.16 | jnwhiteh | if so, *trollface* |
| 19:20.31 | Vlad| | it's just I know your issue but I don't got anything specific to say to help so I just try the standard approach when an issue arises |
| 19:20.50 | Semlar | http://i.imgur.com/ZSDJw.jpg |
| 19:21.33 | Seerah | Semlar: looks like you need those tiles a pixel or two closer together :p |
| 19:21.44 | Semlar | i split them apart so i could see if i had too many |
| 19:21.45 | Vlad| | he is just debugging :P |
| 19:21.50 | Seerah | ahhh |
| 19:21.58 | Semlar | since i can't see the damn map under it |
| 19:22.35 | Semlar | i put extra tiles in there so i could be sure about filling it up but i want to only use as many as i need |
| 19:22.52 | Semlar | since i'm going to have to fix the edges |
| 19:22.53 | Vlad| | jnwhiteh: what can you do to help you? :) |
| 19:23.00 | jnwhiteh | nothing |
| 19:23.17 | jnwhiteh | i logged to another char, ran it, it worked, logged back, and it worked |
| 19:23.20 | jnwhiteh | so I hate blizzard |
| 19:23.21 | Vlad| | I hope you appreciate all my help! |
| 19:23.27 | jnwhiteh | this is a slap in the face! |
| 19:23.30 | Vlad| | I helped you by doing nothing, just as you instructed. |
| 19:23.51 | jnwhiteh | you spoke |
| 19:23.59 | jnwhiteh | =) |
| 19:24.09 | Vlad| | but I didn't do anything :P |
| 19:24.27 | Vlad| | at least for a moment, since you never specified the duration of the "doing nothing" |
| 19:26.30 | Vlad| | ~hug jnwhiteh |
| 19:26.31 | purl | ACTION hugs jnwhiteh tightly until jnwhiteh turns slightly blue |
| 19:26.34 | jnwhiteh | lol |
| 19:27.42 | Vlad| | what are we going to do with sea monsters? |
| 19:28.06 | Semlar | alright screw this i'm just going to pull all of blizzard's overlay textures out and put them on top of my scrollframe |
| 19:28.17 | Vlad| | :D |
| 19:28.32 | Vlad| | didn't you show me the pirate rap song, Semlar? |
| 19:28.39 | Semlar | of course |
| 19:28.40 | Vlad| | maybe it was karl_w_w, it was a while ago |
| 19:28.41 | Vlad| | :P |
| 19:29.57 | Vlad| | lame |
| 19:30.04 | Vlad| | spirit crab looks like a spirit crab out of battle |
| 19:30.09 | Vlad| | but when I battle it now its just a normal crab :/ |
| 19:33.15 | Vlad| | jnwhiteh: EU or US? |
| 19:33.23 | jnwhiteh | eu |
| 19:33.24 | Vlad| | tlund you are from EU right? |
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| 19:33.26 | Vlad| | oh nice |
| 19:33.30 | Vlad| | horde or alliance? |
| 19:34.41 | Vlad| | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:38.39 | Vlad| | don't worry I don't spam in game, unless there is something specific I just ask once, I don't play that much anyway :P |
| 19:39.09 | Elkano | be warned though, he tends to sign guild charters when asked ;) |
| 19:39.52 | Vlad| | lol |
| 19:40.10 | Vlad| | elkanobars :3 |
| 19:40.38 | Vlad| | sounds like food... mmm... chocolate |
| 19:43.12 | Vlad| | I hope jnwhiteh and tlund adds me |
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| 19:48.14 | Semlar | http://i.imgur.com/bYWlV.jpg ^_^ |
| 19:50.30 | Vlad| | nice work mate ;) |
| 19:51.02 | Semlar | it looks kind of weird in some areas but i think it's still better than the map background |
| 19:58.23 | Semlar | http://semlar.com/Loupe.zip if you want the update |
| 19:58.44 | Semlar | i also filled in the missing textures with water |
| 19:58.57 | Vlad| | got it |
| 19:59.11 | jnwhiteh | sexy |
| 19:59.35 | Vlad| | hi jnwhiteh add me :D |
| 19:59.51 | jnwhiteh | i did. |
| 20:00.01 | Semlar | i may have broken part of the map by moving the background textures, i'm not sure |
| 20:00.24 | Semlar | when i maximize the map with the shrine open it kind of disappears |
| 20:00.35 | Vlad| | weird maybe realid is broken |
| 20:00.43 | Vlad| | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:00.48 | pompy1 | yeah its showing some ppl as offlien for 43 yearse |
| 20:00.51 | pompy1 | no joke |
| 20:01.13 | Vlad| | no I mean adding people |
| 20:01.25 | Vlad| | jnwhiteh said he added me but I haven't gotten a notification :P |
| 20:01.34 | jnwhiteh | i typed it |
| 20:01.38 | jnwhiteh | i cba to do it again |
| 20:01.46 | Semlar | yeah i definitely broke the map somehow, i should look into this |
| 20:01.47 | pompy1 | well its bugged in the 'last online' value too |
| 20:01.53 | Vlad| | :( |
| 20:01.57 | Vlad| | can I try add you? |
| 20:05.25 | Semlar | oh, i think the new frame level is making it show up under the world map ui |
| 20:05.34 | Semlar | hm |
| 20:06.01 | Vlad| | there is a weird border Semlar |
| 20:06.06 | Vlad| | on the edge of the default map |
| 20:06.14 | Vlad| | blizzards way to probably make it smooth |
| 20:06.25 | Vlad| | but you don't need it now when you got awesome minimap textures on the edges :D |
| 20:06.49 | Vlad| | look at eversong woods |
| 20:07.22 | Semlar | in-game all of the blood elf area is in the wrong place |
| 20:07.35 | Semlar | if you actually go there your dot will be in the wrong place on the world map |
| 20:07.52 | Semlar | so i'm just going to leave it how the game thinks it is |
| 20:08.31 | Semlar | although that doesn't actually have any impact on this, nevermind |
| 20:08.49 | Vlad| | look at tol barad too |
| 20:09.00 | Vlad| | no need for the lupe if the map is already full minimap :D |
| 20:09.18 | Semlar | i forgot about that |
| 20:09.25 | Semlar | it reports having overlays even though it doesn't have any |
| 20:09.40 | Semlar | i'll have to loop through them and make sure they actually exist |
| 20:09.54 | Vlad| | ruins of gilneas is a bit weird too |
| 20:10.09 | Semlar | how do |
| 20:10.15 | Semlar | how do you mean |
| 20:10.39 | Vlad| | no minimap textures on the edges by default |
| 20:10.43 | Vlad| | I guess that map has none? :p |
| 20:10.49 | Semlar | i think the entire map is covered by overlays |
| 20:11.02 | Semlar | it's reporting 9 of them |
| 20:11.21 | Vlad| | did you understand what I meant by edge border tough? :< |
| 20:11.37 | Vlad| | if you go to westfall and toggle between pure minimap and regular you notice the edges |
| 20:11.41 | Vlad| | the weird smoothing border |
| 20:12.04 | Semlar | on the overlay or the edge of the map |
| 20:12.39 | Semlar | if you mean the extra parts on the overlay there isn't much i can do about that |
| 20:12.47 | Vlad| | hmm |
| 20:13.03 | Vlad| | just assumed if it was it's own texture overlay hehe |
| 20:14.06 | Vlad| | curious what is the 533.33333 value? |
| 20:15.46 | Semlar | magic |
| 20:16.09 | Semlar | the damn map appears to reset its frame levels periodically |
| 20:16.16 | Semlar | this is super annoying |
| 20:16.28 | Semlar | i'm going to have to hook WorldMapFrame_ResetFrameLevels |
| 20:16.37 | Vlad| | (I added a "not" in front the isctrlpushed to have a constant minimap view :P) |
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| 20:19.11 | Semlar | if you only ever want minimap textures that would be a lot easier to accomplish |
| 20:19.30 | Vlad| | yes ofc |
| 20:19.37 | Vlad| | but I just swapped the logic :p |
| 20:19.43 | Vlad| | so ctrl shows the normal map overlay |
| 20:19.50 | Vlad| | would still require all the code :P |
| 20:20.10 | Vlad| | it's one of those options every map addon needs, ton loads of preference choices ;D |
| 20:20.16 | Vlad| | you never know what people prefer |
| 20:20.28 | Semlar | this looks a lot better without the missing textures |
| 20:26.08 | Vlad| | coldridge valley has no minimap |
| 20:26.13 | Vlad| | but the gnome starting place has |
| 20:26.17 | Vlad| | game file thingy? |
| 20:30.15 | Semlar | neither one should be displaying a minimap |
| 20:30.33 | Semlar | that's what if tileSize < 50 or tileSize > 500 then is for |
| 20:30.45 | Vlad| | gnome one does |
| 20:30.46 | Vlad| | and I like it :D |
| 20:31.12 | Semlar | oh i think the gnome one is bigger |
| 20:31.49 | Semlar | coldridge must be zoomed in more than my script will allow |
| 20:32.11 | Semlar | you can adjust the numbers if you want |
| 20:32.13 | Vlad| | yeah |
| 20:32.14 | Semlar | i just picked those |
| 20:32.14 | Vlad| | tileSize < 50 or tileSize > 500 |
| 20:32.33 | Semlar | the bigger number is the one you want to change |
| 20:32.35 | Semlar | i think |
| 20:32.54 | Semlar | make it bigger |
| 20:33.35 | Semlar | or just remove it if you want |
| 20:33.48 | Vlad| | I know :3 |
| 20:34.10 | Semlar | i think i fixed the fullscreen map levels |
| 20:34.20 | Vlad| | need some exception list |
| 20:34.33 | Vlad| | nvm :P |
| 20:36.13 | Semlar | http://semlar.com/Loupe.zip reuploaded it |
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| 20:38.50 | Semlar | i could lower the alpha of the overlays, that would help some with the smoothing |
| 20:39.58 | Vlad| | I don't see that weird border anymore tough |
| 20:40.01 | Vlad| | that I mentioned earlier :P |
| 20:40.16 | Semlar | in that case problem solved forever? |
| 20:41.36 | Vlad| | wasn't a problem, just cosmetic |
| 20:41.37 | Semlar | it might have been an issue with the frame levels since that's all i changed |
| 20:41.48 | Vlad| | yeah |
| 20:41.55 | Semlar | i thought you were talking about the edges of the overlays |
| 20:42.05 | Vlad| | no the edge on the frame |
| 20:42.06 | Vlad| | :D |
| 20:42.17 | Vlad| | btw what about the leftover artwork like in STV? |
| 20:42.24 | Vlad| | that's a part of the overlay of sorts? |
| 20:42.59 | Semlar | which part of stv |
| 20:43.52 | Semlar | the mean the corners |
| 20:43.59 | Semlar | where the water's supposed to be |
| 20:44.15 | Semlar | i must have missed something |
| 20:44.39 | Vlad| | it's leftovers of blizzards overlays |
| 20:44.39 | Vlad| | :3 |
| 20:46.57 | Vlad| | does the horde still got gnomeregan teleport from booty bay? |
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| 20:52.58 | Mr_Rabies | don't think so |
| 20:53.04 | Semlar | alright i fixed tol'barad and the water around stv |
| 20:53.46 | Vlad| | :o |
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| 20:54.32 | Semlar | although i messed up the transparency of the loupe frame by adding a background |
| 20:54.46 | Semlar | i should fix that |
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| 21:00.07 | Semlar | alright i reuploaded it |
| 21:04.17 | Vlad| | it works but it can reappear |
| 21:04.24 | Vlad| | was just navigating between the STV zones |
| 21:04.28 | Vlad| | and BOM it returned :O |
| 21:04.41 | Vlad| | odd |
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| 21:13.05 | Semlar | alright well i fixed it.. again and reuploaded it |
| 21:13.43 | Semlar | i think i got the layers mostly in the right places |
| 21:18.54 | Vlad| | Semlar: toggling digsites |
| 21:18.58 | Vlad| | :p |
| 21:19.01 | Vlad| | just sayin' |
| 21:19.03 | Vlad| | super sayan |
| 21:19.04 | Vlad| | :3 |
| 21:19.09 | Semlar | i don't have archaeology so i don't know what that does |
| 21:19.34 | Vlad| | you should learn it when making your map |
| 21:19.41 | Vlad| | atm not working, just informing |
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| 21:19.51 | Vlad| | I hope you are taking all what I say as feedback? |
| 21:19.57 | Vlad| | I am not bossing you around, just informing :P |
| 21:20.04 | Semlar | what's wrong with it |
| 21:20.42 | Vlad| | not showing digsite overlays |
| 21:20.50 | Vlad| | and when I toggle the checkbox it zooms out to continent zoom |
| 21:21.04 | Semlar | type WorldMapArchaeologyDigSites:SetFrameLevel(WorldMapDetailFrame:GetFrameLevel()+1) |
| 21:21.19 | Semlar | if it's changing the zoom that has nothing to do with me |
| 21:21.19 | Vlad| | works |
| 21:21.20 | Vlad| | :P |
| 21:21.25 | Vlad| | you sure? |
| 21:21.28 | Semlar | yes |
| 21:21.31 | Vlad| | toggling show digsites |
| 21:21.36 | Vlad| | makes it go out to eastern kingdoms |
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| 21:21.39 | Vlad| | in hinterlands atm |
| 21:22.11 | Vlad| | if I do it in a kalimdor zone it goes up to kalimdor level |
| 21:22.15 | Vlad| | (don't got any map addons fyi :P) |
| 21:22.27 | Semlar | it's from a blizzard function that gets called when you click the button |
| 21:22.52 | Vlad| | what do we do? :< |
| 21:23.03 | Semlar | it's not part of my addon |
| 21:23.05 | Vlad| | also where to put 'WorldMapArchaeologyDigSites:SetFrameLevel(WorldMapDetailFrame:GetFrameLevel()+1)' in the OnUpdate? |
| 21:23.08 | Vlad| | you sure? |
| 21:23.13 | Semlar | i'm sure, disable it |
| 21:23.14 | Vlad| | how does blizzards work without Loupe? :D |
| 21:23.19 | Semlar | apparently not well |
| 21:23.25 | Vlad| | but it doesn't zoom out tough :p |
| 21:23.27 | Vlad| | hehe |
| 21:23.33 | Semlar | there's no way my addon is causing it to zoom out |
| 21:23.42 | Vlad| | btw 'WorldMapArchaeologyDigSites:SetFrameLevel(WorldMapDetailFrame:GetFrameLevel()+1)' put that in the OnUpdate? |
| 21:23.47 | Semlar | no |
| 21:23.54 | Vlad| | event |
| 21:24.08 | Vlad| | after/before the tileSize <50 >500 check? |
| 21:24.22 | Semlar | under WorldMapDetailFrame:SetFrameLevel(WORLDMAP_POI_FRAMELEVEL - 12) |
| 21:24.28 | Semlar | put WorldMapArchaeologyDigSites:SetFrameLevel(WORLDMAP_POI_FRAMELEVEL - 12) |
| 21:24.50 | Vlad| | ah right :P |
| 21:25.32 | nevcairiel | note that the blob frames are protected, and touching them like this in combat will most likely fail |
| 21:25.47 | Semlar | :| |
| 21:26.01 | Vlad| | poor semlar |
| 21:26.07 | Semlar | not cool dude |
| 21:26.27 | Semlar | i need to come up with a better solution than releveling every frame anyway |
| 21:26.28 | nevcairiel | i'm not sure if frame level is also protected, but i figure it would be |
| 21:26.40 | Semlar | this is a horrible solution |
| 21:26.54 | Vlad| | like making your own map framework? :P |
| 21:26.55 | Semlar | but the worldmap keeps reordering its frames |
| 21:26.59 | Vlad| | and disabling the worldmap entirely? |
| 21:27.01 | Vlad| | ;D |
| 21:27.09 | nevcairiel | you cant reproduce the blob frames |
| 21:27.22 | foxlit | I still don't get why they bothered protecting blobs. |
| 21:27.29 | nevcairiel | who knows |
| 21:28.00 | Semlar | i hope it didn't have to do with bots because that makes no difference |
| 21:28.40 | Vlad| | forget bots, they read memory anyway |
| 21:28.45 | Vlad| | and can buypass lua restrictions |
| 21:28.57 | Vlad| | so it doesn't mater what blizzard does to restrict bots like this :P that's just silly way hehe |
| 21:43.14 | Vlad| | weird issues with digsite blobs yes |
| 21:43.15 | Vlad| | :( |
| 21:43.19 | Vlad| | but hey |
| 21:43.23 | Vlad| | at least you got the MAP working :D |
| 21:43.33 | Vlad| | that's good enough for one day right? ;) |
| 21:43.41 | Semlar | are there actually trainers in mogu'shan palace or is this fucking with me |
| 21:43.48 | Vlad| | lol |
| 21:44.00 | Semlar | i asked a guard where to train archaeology |
| 21:44.58 | Semlar | there do appear to be trainers here |
| 21:45.21 | Vlad| | that sounds very wrong if it's the dungeon :P |
| 21:45.43 | Semlar | it's above it |
| 21:46.03 | Semlar | also disabling my addon has no impact on whether it zooms out when you hit show digsites |
| 21:46.43 | Gnarfoz | foxlit: can you add the http://www.wowhead.com/item=91806 to the seed list in Spade? |
| 21:46.59 | Shirik | Part 2: Answer the questions below. (Note: the higher score of parts 1 & 2 will be used for your final intelligence score) |
| 21:47.00 | Shirik | Are you literate in at least one language? (hint: You're reading this, so you are) |
| 21:47.06 | Shirik | what |
| 21:47.15 | nevcairiel | its the control question |
| 21:47.33 | Vlad| | hmm, odd Semlar |
| 21:47.34 | Vlad| | :p |
| 21:47.42 | Semlar | it's from the function RefreshWorldMap() |
| 21:48.22 | Semlar | which at least no longer breaks the map if you're looking at a microdungeon or multi-level map |
| 21:48.27 | Gnarfoz | foxlit: also, is it intended that I can't plant seeds by right-clicking them in my inventory when I have Spade installed? |
| 21:48.45 | Gnarfoz | says "Invalid target" :( |
| 21:50.40 | foxlit | Gnarfoz: I don't think spade has anything to do with that error message. |
| 21:50.59 | Gnarfoz | quite possible, maybe I'm doing something else wrong |
| 21:51.09 | foxlit | What are you targetting? |
| 21:51.19 | Gnarfoz | ...nothing? |
| 21:51.24 | Gnarfoz | well. |
| 21:51.31 | Gnarfoz | see, Spade has made me dumb :D |
| 21:52.04 | Gnarfoz | haven't planted a seed manually, ever, and didn't realize you have to target a patch of soil |
| 21:52.14 | Vlad| | :P |
| 21:52.39 | Gnarfoz | (the item text doesn't say you have to :\ the error message should've made me realize, though) |
| 21:53.56 | foxlit | why did you feel the sudden urge to use your inventory anyway? :) |
| 21:54.33 | Semlar | i think i'm just going to toss out blizzard's overlay and background textures and make my own |
| 21:54.35 | nevcairiel | spade uses opie rings for planting, or how did that work again? |
| 21:54.48 | Semlar | i have no way of making them the right frame level |
| 21:55.03 | Vlad| | sounds like the easier thing to do |
| 21:55.07 | Vlad| | disable theirs and make your own :P |
| 21:55.24 | foxlit | nevcairiel: yes. Right clicking on tilled soil opens a ring. |
| 21:55.31 | Semlar | that should let me do it without moving any other frames around |
| 21:55.38 | Gnarfoz | foxlit: because the portal shard doesn't show up in the ring :) |
| 21:55.42 | nevcairiel | i never really did more then test the planting minigame |
| 21:55.51 | foxlit | Gnarfoz: hm! |
| 21:56.14 | foxlit | I thought I added that, but perhaps that was never released |
| 21:56.34 | Gnarfoz | can't check, you don't have a repo on CF! :> |
| 21:57.46 | Gnarfoz | also, I added deDE translations |
| 21:58.11 | Gnarfoz | (not that I play with the deDE client, *shudders*) |
| 21:58.14 | foxlit | good, good. |
| 21:58.23 | foxlit | Wish translation exporting was less of a pain |
| 21:58.45 | Gnarfoz | hm? I thought it was automated |
| 21:58.56 | Gnarfoz | or do you mean adding new strings to the translation tool |
| 21:59.02 | foxlit | both |
| 21:59.13 | nevcairiel | its only automated if you use the packager |
| 21:59.21 | Gnarfoz | ah, well. yes :D |
| 21:59.42 | Gnarfoz | needs @translation@ tags or whatever |
| 22:00.25 | foxlit | it's not too bad; though it'd be nice to be able to export all languages at once. |
| 22:05.04 | foxlit | ah, no, I was doing something else. |
| 22:06.49 | Sintacks | curse is still giving me the same ad for bras and panties ... |
| 22:07.08 | nevcairiel | it knows what you want the most |
| 22:07.09 | p3lim | Semlar: Nice little map addon you've got there |
| 22:07.30 | Semlar | it doesn't woooorrrrk riiight |
| 22:07.42 | Semlar | oh well |
| 22:08.33 | Semlar | this is the problem with trying to work with the existing map |
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| 22:12.06 | Vlad| | 3 times in jail IN A ROW |
| 22:12.07 | Vlad| | wtf lol |
| 22:12.27 | Thunder_Child | yea, monopoly is harsh |
| 22:12.50 | Semlar | Do not pass go. |
| 22:13.18 | foxlit | Does the client know when the daily reset is? |
| 22:13.31 | Vlad| | no |
| 22:13.35 | Vlad| | it just receives an system msg |
| 22:13.36 | Vlad| | :D |
| 22:13.40 | nevcairiel | it tells you in chat at least, but thats probably directly from the server |
| 22:13.51 | nevcairiel | dont think an addon can ask for that info in any case |
| 22:14.14 | Semlar | does it change? |
| 22:14.51 | Semlar | i guess it depends on the timezone |
| 22:15.18 | foxlit | you can ask for realm time, so that wouldn't be a big obstacle. |
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| 22:15.59 | Vlad| | screw you luxury tax |
| 22:16.33 | Semlar | the secret to monopoly is to buy up all the cheap crap at the beginning |
| 22:16.47 | Vlad| | if you land on it |
| 22:17.10 | Semlar | well, buy whatever you can |
| 22:18.23 | Vlad| | doctor fee 50$ jeez |
| 22:19.41 | Vlad| | at midnight a pet spawns near karazhan |
| 22:19.46 | Vlad| | just sayan :P |
| 22:20.15 | Semlar | i wish doctor fees were only $50 |
| 22:20.43 | Vlad| | my sallary is 200$ |
| 22:20.50 | Vlad| | in comparison it's expensive :p |
| 22:21.27 | Shirik | your salary is $200? |
| 22:22.04 | Vlad| | on monopoly yes |
| 22:24.08 | foxlit | Hm, I can steal it form the debuff durations on farm planets |
| 22:24.15 | foxlit | s/nets/nts/ |
| 22:31.58 | Mr_Rabies | kd3: c'thun's easily soloable now after the hotfixes yesterday |
| 22:33.49 | Vlad| | not saurfang |
| 22:33.50 | Vlad| | :( |
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| 22:41.43 | Vlad| | second prize in a beauty contest; collect $10 |
| 22:41.52 | Vlad| | it's less than poor tax, that's $15 |
| 22:41.52 | Vlad| | :P |
| 22:42.11 | Mr_Rabies | there's no way back to the start of AQ is there? :( |
| 22:42.16 | Mr_Rabies | after killing c'thun |
| 22:42.17 | Vlad| | running |
| 22:42.21 | Mr_Rabies | no quick way |
| 22:42.22 | Mr_Rabies | lol |
| 22:42.23 | Vlad| | you need the extra jogging |
| 22:42.26 | Vlad| | you can die |
| 22:42.29 | Vlad| | and run back in :P |
| 22:45.38 | Mr_Rabies | luckily i left some trash up so i could |
| 22:45.47 | foxlit | did you check with the dragons? |
| 22:45.58 | Mr_Rabies | yeah, none of them had any options for teleporting |
| 22:45.59 | Vlad| | what dragoons? |
| 22:46.03 | Vlad| | ah :P |
| 22:46.04 | Vlad| | actually |
| 22:46.11 | Vlad| | blizzard could have made a staircase |
| 22:46.17 | Vlad| | that leads back up to prophets room |
| 22:46.20 | Vlad| | even has the stairs going |
| 22:46.21 | Vlad| | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:46.31 | Vlad| | they could have edited it and made a passage that opens when c'thun is dead |
| 22:46.33 | Vlad| | but nooooo |
| 22:46.34 | Vlad| | :P |
| 22:46.53 | foxlit | That's putting salt on a wound. |
| 22:46.57 | Vlad| | that's where the "dead end" past c'thun really leads, a unused way back to prophet |
| 22:47.16 | Mr_Rabies | yeah |
| 22:47.34 | Mr_Rabies | you can tell that was gonna happen and they scrapped it for time or something |
| 22:48.11 | Vlad| | "oh shit how do we code a proper blockade that dissappears when c'thun is dead? oh shit... just block it off with a world object and let them run it back or something hahaha!" |
| 22:49.17 | foxlit | hey, they had porting tech |
| 22:49.32 | Vlad| | yeah but don't ask me |
| 22:49.35 | foxlit | At least the dragons port you to twin emps. Used to be sad before that. |
| 22:49.42 | Vlad| | yeah |
| 22:49.51 | Vlad| | but they could have with some few scripting lines have fixed a proper way back up :( |
| 22:49.52 | Mr_Rabies | they port you to c'thun too |
| 22:50.02 | Vlad| | I wish they'd let me do it for them, I'd do it for free! |
| 22:50.13 | foxlit | heh, that's new. |
| 22:50.48 | Mr_Rabies | i really wish i could figure out razuvious |
| 22:50.55 | Mr_Rabies | so far he just destroys me solo |
| 22:50.57 | Vlad| | what class are you? |
| 22:51.31 | Mr_Rabies | feral/guardian druid |
| 22:51.36 | Vlad| | ok do this |
| 22:51.43 | Vlad| | MC in bear |
| 22:51.51 | Vlad| | before MC breaks cast rejuvenation on him (target him) |
| 22:52.09 | Vlad| | then rejuv yourself, bear, trash, swipe, click to MC again |
| 22:52.18 | Vlad| | that should heal you, him, and kill mobs nearby and keep going |
| 22:52.42 | Vlad| | you probably have issues keeping mobs off him so you can do it to regen some threat hehe |
| 22:53.29 | Mr_Rabies | biggest problem is i always get hit with the unbalancing strike when i break mc to run to the other guy |
| 22:53.34 | Vlad| | ehm |
| 22:53.41 | Vlad| | you should keep him on the main floor |
| 22:53.44 | Vlad| | and you stand up on the top floor |
| 22:53.54 | Vlad| | you should have plenty of time to MC him before he starts bashing you |
| 22:53.55 | Mr_Rabies | how do i mc from top floor? D: |
| 22:53.58 | Vlad| | ehm |
| 22:54.02 | Vlad| | you just stand next to the orb :P |
| 22:54.09 | Mr_Rabies | but the orb's on the bottom, too |
| 22:54.10 | Mr_Rabies | O_o |
| 22:54.13 | Vlad| | ehm |
| 22:54.23 | Vlad| | ah wait |
| 22:54.24 | Vlad| | nvm |
| 22:54.27 | Vlad| | I read razorgore |
| 22:54.28 | Vlad| | xD |
| 22:54.33 | Vlad| | razovious is a bit trickier |
| 22:54.42 | Vlad| | alliance on EU? |
| 22:55.10 | Vlad| | theory |
| 22:55.16 | Vlad| | root the add you own't use, MC the other, tank boss |
| 22:55.25 | Vlad| | swap add when your shield is off, root your own mob, MC the other guy |
| 22:55.29 | Vlad| | repeat until your MC mobs are dead |
| 22:55.32 | Vlad| | then you pray and nuke :P |
| 22:57.45 | Mr_Rabies | roots have a 1.5 sec cast and only last 20 seconds |
| 22:57.47 | Mr_Rabies | :| |
| 22:57.48 | Vlad| | Mr_Rabies: |
| 22:57.53 | Gnarfoz | Shadowed: Blizzard error? http://www.wowace.com/paste/6656/ :o |
| 22:58.02 | Vlad| | yeah but your shield won't last for too long anyway |
| 22:58.04 | Gnarfoz | Shadowed: just got that out of nowhere |
| 22:58.09 | Shadowed | probably |
| 22:58.09 | Vlad| | you can take some hits of the ads, it's the boss that is dangerous :P |
| 22:58.12 | Vlad| | btw ally on EU or? |
| 22:58.14 | Mr_Rabies | yeah |
| 22:58.17 | Vlad| | :D |
| 22:58.25 | Mr_Rabies | no, US |
| 22:58.28 | Vlad| | :( |
| 22:58.32 | Vlad| | damn |
| 22:58.39 | Gnarfoz | Shadowed: that player is not in my guild and not near me, so it's probably some realm first thing |
| 22:58.41 | Vlad| | jnwhiteh and tlund are on EU but they couldn't add me :( |
| 22:58.41 | Mr_Rabies | the boss always hits me while i'm swapping between mc dudes |
| 22:58.45 | Mr_Rabies | and that hits HARD |
| 22:58.46 | Vlad| | hmm |
| 22:58.50 | Vlad| | then do like I did |
| 22:58.54 | Vlad| | kill one add |
| 22:59.01 | Vlad| | and use the last as well as you can |
| 22:59.07 | Mr_Rabies | add always dies :( |
| 22:59.10 | Vlad| | yeah |
| 22:59.12 | Mr_Rabies | really, really fast |
| 22:59.14 | Mr_Rabies | and then i die |
| 22:59.15 | Mr_Rabies | really, really fast |
| 22:59.19 | Vlad| | I'd help you if I could |
| 22:59.20 | Vlad| | :( |
| 22:59.27 | Vlad| | I anyway need help on saurfang in ICC myself lol |
| 22:59.31 | Vlad| | but sadly I am on EU |
| 22:59.38 | Vlad| | but there are so many US players here |
| 22:59.43 | Vlad| | I am sure one of these guys will help you :P |
| 22:59.54 | Vlad| | even if an alt, just him helping with MC and rotation will help a lot |
| 23:00.11 | zenzelezz | http://developers.slashdot.org/story/12/12/01/1739223/half-of-github-code-unsafe-to-use-if-you-want-open-source -- "But if you're not going to give anyone permission to use your code, why post it on GitHub in the first place?" -- I always thought a lot of people just used it because it was an easy way to host their own code, not for sharing |
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| 23:05.17 | foxlit | why do you want to host your own code? |
| 23:09.25 | End_ | aside from sharing it, the only reason I can think is that it's a safe place off of your own computer |
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