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| 02:03.20 | TC-work | Fisker: I present you your new t-shirt http://www.redbubble.com/people/wiikitteh/works/9341717-pinkie-pie-u-mad-bro |
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| 08:13.19 | karl_w_w | purl! |
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| 09:08.12 | zenzio | alestane: did you find that C++ site you were asking about yesterday? |
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| 09:34.26 | mitch0 | cppreference.com |
| 09:34.45 | mitch0 | alestane: and yeah, real coders don't use diagramming GUIs ;) |
| 09:35.35 | zenzio | bastard, I was going to link it if he hadn't found it |
| 09:48.25 | chiel | morning |
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| 11:21.53 | chiel | anyone know if there's alternative boss mods to dbm/bigwigs? |
| 11:21.58 | chiel | i used to always use DXE |
| 11:22.11 | chiel | but that doesn't really seem to be developed anymore... :/ |
| 11:24.39 | durcyn | what's wrong with bigwigs? |
| 11:25.57 | zenzio | they make you look pretensious |
| 11:28.59 | chiel | :p |
| 11:29.14 | chiel | I just liked DXE cause it was really customisable, and didn't look utter shit. |
| 11:29.50 | chiel | CBM just looks crap |
| 11:29.54 | chiel | DBM* |
| 11:30.50 | durcyn | well, i can't recommend anyone ever use dbm for anything but fire tinder, but if you have requests/suggestions for improvements to bw, shoot |
| 11:40.53 | zenzio | what do you dislike about DBM? |
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| 12:05.01 | karl_w_w | why doesnt windows have an option to replace folders rather than merge |
| 12:08.47 | Fisker | why would anyone ever want that? |
| 12:09.39 | chiel | durcyn: I haven't tried BW in quite a long time actually, so perhaps I should try it again |
| 12:10.10 | chiel | zenzio: it does too much for my uses personally, it's loud and obnoxious. I realise this is ideal for about 99% of people, but I have a pair of eyes :p |
| 12:10.25 | chiel | it might just be that i need to spend longer configuring it |
| 12:10.37 | chiel | but i don't like it when addons have defaults that are kinda "meh" |
| 12:12.01 | zenzio | chiel: I have no issue with your points of view, and I was never too fond of DBM myself, but my guild required it. I was merely curious if there was any particular reason why durcyn didn't seem to like it very much, or if it was the same general dissatisfaction with it as I had |
| 12:13.18 | chiel | zenzio: well, dbm is a fine addon i guess, but i suppose it does too much for my needs. ideally i'd just want the timers for the boss' cooldowns |
| 12:13.25 | chiel | displayed along the side of the screen, that's it |
| 12:13.40 | chiel | i would do it myself if i wasn't very new to lua and all that, hehe |
| 12:13.49 | durcyn | three big sticking points for me: 1. it attempts to dictate strategy rather than provide information. 2. the jags who write it lifted code wholesale from bigwigs once upon a time. 3. it includes completely irrelevant non-raid shit, of which i have no good specific example right now |
| 12:13.50 | zenzio | last time I used it, you could configure those things through the interface itself |
| 12:14.04 | pnorman | durcyn: headless horseman |
| 12:14.16 | zenzio | durcyn: I'd have to agree with that, especially the first part |
| 12:14.23 | chiel | durcyn: so i imagine you are the maintainer of bigwigs then? :) |
| 12:14.28 | chiel | (one of) |
| 12:14.36 | durcyn | chiel: i help out here and there, Funkeh` does most of the heavy lifting |
| 12:14.43 | chiel | ah k, fair enough |
| 12:14.52 | chiel | well, i might just give bigwigs another shot then |
| 12:14.56 | chiel | i can appreciate good code |
| 12:15.08 | chiel | one of the things that annoys me about dbm is that it's just way too heavy |
| 12:15.18 | chiel | (feels like, anyway) |
| 12:15.43 | chiel | i only just started with lua/addon dev myself |
| 12:15.53 | chiel | coding up some unitframes with oUF, it's pretty cool |
| 12:15.58 | chiel | anyway, got a meeting, i'll be back. |
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| 13:53.11 | Fisker | haha Adys |
| 13:53.33 | Fisker | Blizzard actually went with the "It's just a client display issue" on the breaking news issues they had two weeks ago |
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| 14:04.12 | karl_w_w | Fisker why isn't it snowing in storm peaks? |
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| 14:08.28 | chiel | Fisker: what issues? |
| 14:08.43 | Fisker | no maintenance window was posted |
| 14:08.47 | Fisker | so when people thought no maintenance |
| 14:08.49 | Fisker | and servers went down |
| 14:08.50 | Fisker | bam |
| 14:08.54 | Fisker | shitstorm |
| 14:14.02 | chiel | ah |
| 14:14.04 | chiel | lol :) |
| 14:14.23 | chiel | ah well, i am asleep nowadays through maintenance, so it's ok :p |
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| 15:01.26 | Vlad| | I am writing what was written on paper into a file... what do I do when I can't understand the writing? :P |
| 15:03.28 | Maldivia | scan it, and save it as an image file, then it's up to the next guy to decode it :P |
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| 15:34.07 | Vlad| | :P |
| 15:34.10 | Vlad| | I was considering that |
| 15:34.27 | Vlad| | I can clip out the text and put it as images in the file :P |
| 15:34.28 | Vlad| | haha |
| 15:34.38 | Vlad| | hey, when it comes to vehicle IDs |
| 15:34.44 | Vlad| | are they like npcIDs or do they vary? |
| 15:35.01 | Vlad| | example I get the ID 32768 from "Miss Fanny" but it is a vehicle mob |
| 15:35.09 | Vlad| | curious if I can depend on said id or not :/ |
| 15:35.52 | Vlad| | I don't think we can extract the real npcID from a vehicle unit. |
| 15:38.01 | Semlar | i'm about 80% sure vehicles used npc ids |
| 15:38.30 | Vlad| | yeah but |
| 15:38.39 | Vlad| | how can we on the lua end get the npcID from a vehicle unit? :P |
| 15:38.41 | Semlar | and you definitely can get it because a bunch of bosses were classified as vehicles and my addon picked them up no problem |
| 15:38.49 | Semlar | you have to pull it out of the GUID |
| 15:38.50 | Vlad| | combat log yeah |
| 15:38.53 | Vlad| | well |
| 15:38.58 | Vlad| | UnitGUID("target") returns their vehicleID |
| 15:39.26 | Vlad| | miss fanny in the valley of four winds |
| 15:40.40 | Semlar | what are you using to get the npc id |
| 15:42.23 | Semlar | because unless vehicle ids are a new thing i've never heard of them |
| 15:43.09 | Vlad| | UnitGUID |
| 15:43.14 | Vlad| | ehm |
| 15:43.28 | Vlad| | http://www.wowpedia.org/GUID |
| 15:43.35 | Vlad| | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:43.36 | Semlar | guid:sub(-12,-9) |
| 15:43.50 | Semlar | unless they've changed it |
| 15:43.56 | Semlar | is how i was extracting the npc id |
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| 15:44.40 | Semlar | wow i don't think that page is remotely up to date with their example |
| 15:45.42 | Vlad| | hmm |
| 15:45.49 | Vlad| | you are reversing the value in the guid? |
| 15:45.51 | Vlad| | -12, -9 |
| 15:46.06 | Semlar | no i'm counting from the right of the string because it's hex |
| 15:46.12 | Vlad| | ah :p |
| 15:46.27 | Semlar | you have to convert it to a decimal which is what tonumber is for |
| 15:46.45 | Semlar | return tonumber(guid:sub(-12,-9), 16) |
| 15:47.43 | Vlad| | yeah ofc |
| 15:47.54 | Vlad| | but the ID returned when the guid is flagged "vehicle" is not the npc id |
| 15:47.55 | Vlad| | :P |
| 15:48.09 | Semlar | give me an example of the GUID of the unit and what number you're getting |
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| 15:48.30 | Vlad| | sec |
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| 15:51.05 | Semlar | i have really come a long way since writing this addon |
| 15:51.34 | Semlar | i can't believe i named this function UnitID |
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| 15:53.26 | Semlar | vlad you better hurry up because i gotta get goin soon |
| 15:53.52 | Semlar | and i won't be back for a few days |
| 15:54.06 | Vlad| | OK |
| 15:54.11 | Vlad| | I was in a dungeon you see :D |
| 15:54.14 | Semlar | just give me a guid of a vehicle |
| 15:54.28 | Vlad| | yes |
| 15:54.46 | Vlad| | 0xF550DB800007A906 |
| 15:54.52 | Vlad| | Miss Fanny in WOTFW |
| 15:54.53 | Semlar | name? |
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| 15:54.55 | Semlar | okay |
| 15:56.32 | Unkle | "Oh, it is impossible! The Mushan beast is too big, you say! Nothing is impossible with /focus/!" ~the Hidden Master directing porn. |
| 15:56.42 | Vlad| | http://www.wowhead.com/npc=56192 |
| 15:56.44 | Vlad| | this version |
| 15:57.22 | Semlar | tonumber(("0xF550DB800007A906"):sub(-12,-9), 16) |
| 15:57.29 | Semlar | returns 56192 |
| 15:57.33 | Vlad| | hmm |
| 15:57.54 | Vlad| | odd I didn't notice it until now :/ |
| 15:57.56 | Semlar | the NPC id part is DB80 |
| 15:58.16 | Semlar | and one of those 5s identifies it as a vehicle |
| 15:58.40 | Semlar | i think it's the third one |
| 15:58.40 | Vlad| | thanks semlar |
| 15:58.44 | Semlar | third character |
| 15:58.51 | Semlar | well fifth character in the string |
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| 15:59.33 | Semlar | this may be helpful or not but here's the unit type check i had |
| 15:59.38 | Semlar | local index = tonumber(bit.band(tonumber(guid:sub(5,5)),0x7), 16) |
| 15:59.48 | Semlar | local unitType = { [0] = "player", [1] = "object", [3] = "npc", [4] = "pet", [5] = "vehicle" } |
| 16:00.33 | Vlad| | I am baffled how I didn't see the npc id in the vehicle hex :P |
| 16:00.34 | Semlar | i don't even think converting the number to a decimal is necessary if you just use the hex values for the index |
| 16:00.39 | Vlad| | strange ;) |
| 16:01.25 | Semlar | every boss that did something like pick up a player was classified as a vehicle |
| 16:01.36 | Semlar | and i was only checking that the unit was an npc |
| 16:01.42 | Semlar | so it took me a while to figure out what was going on |
| 16:02.12 | Semlar | http://www.wowhead.com/npc=33118 ignis for example |
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| 16:05.16 | Semlar | remind me not to hang out with sick people |
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| 16:05.46 | Semlar | i'm coming down with something |
| 16:06.33 | Vlad| | :D |
| 16:06.38 | Vlad| | yeah |
| 16:06.43 | Vlad| | I already had something :D |
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| 16:13.41 | Arrowmaster | YES http://twitchfilm.com/2012/11/first-horrific-footage-for-the-host-2.html |
| 16:14.56 | Lopeppeppy | Breathe, Arrowmaster. It's just an alien thing. |
| 16:15.42 | Arrowmaster | not an alien |
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| 16:26.08 | Vlad| | thanks Semlar ^.^ |
| 16:26.15 | Vlad| | you made me discover something awesome |
| 16:26.35 | Semlar | i think that makes me awesome by proxy |
| 16:33.19 | karl_w_w | when did youtube become so slow and useless |
| 16:35.28 | TC-work | middle of thje year |
| 16:35.30 | TC-work | the* |
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| 16:48.30 | Vlad| | depends on the servers, no? |
| 16:49.00 | Vlad| | the eu once are okay I guess, but not for 1080p that shit was always slow :P |
| 16:51.15 | Unkle_ | http://io9.com/5962488/the-extremely-tentative-but-potentially-triumphant-return-of-rom-spaceknight |
| 16:51.46 | Unkle_ | YES PLEASE. |
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| 16:58.49 | karl_w_w | NO THANKS |
| 16:59.07 | sintAcks | Game Time |
| 16:59.08 | sintAcks | Source: 1-month Recurring, $14.99 USD |
| 16:59.08 | sintAcks | Renews: 12/21/2012 5:46 AM |
| 16:59.10 | sintAcks | END OF THE WORLD |
| 16:59.12 | sintAcks | of warcraft |
| 17:16.18 | karl_w_w | still not snowing in damn storm peaks |
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| 17:21.25 | Krapsy | its too cold |
| 17:27.17 | Arrowmaster | http://i.imgur.com/j0ic1.jpg |
| 17:27.44 | Arrowmaster | you know something is a failure when they dont even make it properly anymore |
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| 17:38.22 | TC-work | It's cheaper that way |
| 17:49.42 | Arrowmaster | cheaper for them but not cheaper for the customer |
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| 18:02.01 | Vlad| | lol |
| 18:02.08 | Vlad| | you mean they put the microsd into adapters? |
| 18:06.45 | mikma | oh nice |
| 18:06.59 | TC-work | no, the stick was just a wrapper for the sd |
| 18:16.54 | Vlad| | lol |
| 18:17.03 | Cairenn|afk | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avTQlxFFreo&feature=endscreen&NR=1 |
| 18:19.39 | alestane | Tabby kitty don't care. |
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| 18:48.48 | F16Gaming | ... |
| 18:49.09 | F16Gaming | resto druid t14 legs: no spirit, crit, mastery |
| 18:49.18 | F16Gaming | balance druid t14 legs: no spirit, haste, mastery |
| 18:49.33 | F16Gaming | so the balance legs are better for resto than the resto legs |
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| 19:01.30 | TC-work | http://prx.aps.org/abstract/PRX/v2/i4/e041010 Oh good, because IT doesnt have enough crap to deal with. |
| 19:03.54 | karl_w_w | seriously if there's a dark thing on the ceiling that u think might be a spider, just dont look closer and check |
| 19:03.57 | karl_w_w | u dont wanna know |
| 19:04.31 | karl_w_w | i know that cos i did and now i know there's a huge spider with hairy legs and shit on the ceiling and i didn't wanna know that |
| 19:04.41 | TC-work | I would rather look than have it drop on my head without warning |
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| 19:23.36 | alestane | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSu-co1eRWE win. |
| 19:37.26 | Krapsy | ~ugt |
| 19:37.27 | purl | ugt is probably Universal Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant. http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html |
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| 20:11.08 | kd3 | NOPE: http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mcjrlj5pq31rx70ego1_500.jpg |
| 20:15.34 | kd3 | though I guess it could be a quick way to join the mile high club without an airplane... |
| 20:15.50 | kd3 | (it's sfw, just terrifying for someone who's a little acrophobic) |
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| 21:10.29 | TC-work | Now i really want to go to Australia, they have the most wtf of anyone. http://gizmodo.com/5962348/this-spectacular-sea-tornado-will-shrink-your-gonads |
| 21:12.48 | TC-work | kd3: but you couldn't have sex up there, you could only 'make love' |
| 21:28.25 | Mr_Rabies | urgh the first week of lfr for a new raid really sucks |
| 21:29.36 | ajmitch | found it to be smoother than trying to run mogu'shan vaults now |
| 21:37.11 | Mr_Rabies | well, problem with ours is roughly half the raid can't understand each other |
| 21:37.19 | Mr_Rabies | so we never get to collaborate on strats |
| 21:37.36 | TC-work | That sounds.....bad |
| 21:38.59 | amro | https://plus.google.com/photos/111996409013825587891/albums/5813336170706076065/5813336174549178482 |
| 21:39.06 | Mr_Rabies | galaron was impossible pre-nerf |
| 21:39.54 | TC-work | amro: I'm just lucky i can't remember my steam pw atm |
| 21:51.41 | Mr_Rabies | urgh |
| 21:51.44 | Mr_Rabies | tsulong |
| 21:51.53 | Mr_Rabies | i think i'm just gonna drop group and stop running lfr |
| 21:54.08 | Fisker | nah Mr_Rabies |
| 21:54.11 | Fisker | also the new lfr is easy |
| 21:54.17 | Mr_Rabies | it would be |
| 21:54.27 | Mr_Rabies | if the raid could understand each other :< |
| 21:54.31 | Gnarfoz | tsulong is pretty bad |
| 21:54.41 | Gnarfoz | requires almost everyone to know what to do |
| 21:54.46 | Gnarfoz | which is not a good situation for LFR :D |
| 21:54.51 | Fisker | it's worse but not bad |
| 21:55.01 | Gnarfoz | worse includes bad, by definition |
| 21:55.27 | Gnarfoz | (someone's going to hang me for that ;P) |
| 21:56.19 | TC-work | Not for that..... |
| 21:57.30 | Mr_Rabies | about half the raid has no clue what we're saying |
| 21:57.36 | Mr_Rabies | several people with 40 stacks of the debuff |
| 21:57.47 | Mr_Rabies | including one of the tanks |
| 21:59.20 | ajmitch | got lucky last night, joined a group that was 1/4 in terrace & 1-shot the remaining 3 bosses |
| 21:59.28 | ajmitch | that'll probably be rare |
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| 22:05.37 | Mr_Rabies | i really don't know what's wrong with blizzard and why they think multilingual grouping is okay |
| 22:05.50 | Mr_Rabies | communication is key for MMOs |
| 22:06.43 | Kalroth | Mr_Rabies: hvad snakker du om |
| 22:07.46 | Corrodias | kek |
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| 22:12.44 | Mr_Rabies | like |
| 22:12.46 | Mr_Rabies | this tank |
| 22:12.50 | Mr_Rabies | doesn't know what "taunt" means |
| 22:13.06 | Mr_Rabies | so he's letting the other tank stack up to like 25 stacks and dying |
| 22:17.28 | Gnarfoz | anyone know what would cause Windows/nvidia drivers/my graphics card(/no idea) to videos, 3d games and even the Aero desktop (ok, that's basically a 3d app?) stutter, as soon as I have 2 monitors? |
| 22:18.06 | Mr_Rabies | fully uninstall your drivers and reinstall them, perhaps |
| 22:21.08 | Gnarfoz | I'm not sure why that would do *anything* |
| 22:21.22 | Gnarfoz | I already switched versions back 2 generations |
| 22:21.41 | TC-work | Does your card support output to the resolutions of the monitors? |
| 22:21.49 | TC-work | in total |
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| 22:23.40 | TC-work | For example the new 680 can handle output to 4 monitors at once, however that's in there area of 4 1080P monitors not 4 30" @ 2560 X 1600 monitors each requiring dual link DVI cables |
| 22:23.41 | TC-work | etc. |
| 22:23.50 | TC-work | the area* |
| 22:26.08 | Gnarfoz | uhm, hm |
| 22:26.22 | Gnarfoz | it's a GTX 460, but I'd be really confused if it couldn't do 2x 1920x1200 |
| 22:33.25 | Fisker | Gnarfoz |
| 22:33.34 | Gnarfoz | switching out cables wouldn't make sense, since it works fine with just one |
| 22:36.37 | zenzelezz | I did 2*1920x1200 on a GTX 275 |
| 22:38.58 | amro | Gnarfoz: do you have something overlapping both monitors? |
| 22:39.11 | amro | some older d3d device contexts fail horribly when the output is sent to two monitors |
| 22:39.25 | amro | directdraw as well |
| 22:41.41 | Gnarfoz | no |
| 22:41.54 | Mr_Rabies | install gentoo |
| 22:42.03 | Mr_Rabies | i'm sorry that was like a reflex |
| 22:42.10 | amro | good idea |
| 22:42.21 | amro | if he starts now, he'll be done in time for christmas |
| 22:44.14 | Mr_Rabies | man i am the king of getting disconnected while terrain jumping |
| 22:44.19 | Mr_Rabies | i hop around stupidly in town |
| 22:44.32 | Mr_Rabies | and almost every day i get myself booted for landing on a surface at a weird angle |
| 22:44.41 | Dagmar | amro++ |
| 22:45.10 | Mr_Rabies | http://i.imgur.com/oREMS.jpg |
| 22:45.18 | Dagmar | http://store.imgur.com/collections/frontpage/products/banana-for-sc |
| 22:45.25 | Fisker | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:45.54 | Dagmar | Hmm... Looks like it's time to give this mouse a nice alcohol bath |
| 22:47.07 | TC-work | Gnarfoz: try dual monitors in safe mode |
| 22:47.13 | Gnarfoz | TC-work: errr whut |
| 22:47.29 | Mr_Rabies | i want an alcohol bath dagmar |
| 22:47.32 | Gnarfoz | not sure video playback OR 3d games would work very well in that mode |
| 22:47.36 | Gnarfoz | (i.e. how would I test) |
| 22:47.38 | TC-work | That will tell you if it is an installed program as opposed to the base windows or card |
| 22:47.47 | Dagmar | Mr_Rabies: Are you improperly right-clicking as well? |
| 22:47.59 | Mr_Rabies | no, it just sounds like a good way to party |
| 22:48.03 | Dagmar | I mean I suppose I should be happy I've had this thing seven years with no problems until now |
| 22:48.11 | Mr_Rabies | what kind of mouse? |
| 22:48.22 | Dagmar | Logitech G5 |
| 22:48.24 | Gnarfoz | TC-work: I guess I could try how well I can test in safe mode, thanks for the idea |
| 22:48.26 | Mr_Rabies | ehhhhh |
| 22:48.28 | TC-work | ^_^ |
| 22:48.30 | Mr_Rabies | logitech's G series :< |
| 22:48.44 | Mr_Rabies | not a big fan of pretty much anything in that line |
| 22:48.50 | Mr_Rabies | more of an MX fan |
| 22:48.52 | TC-work | Dagmar: the G700 is on sale for $40 on amazon right now |
| 22:48.52 | Dagmar | Most mice on the market are crappy. This was one of the few good ones from any maker. |
| 22:49.11 | Mr_Rabies | i'm surprised it's the right mouse and not the middle mouse though |
| 22:49.11 | Dagmar | TC-work: Yeah but I've already got the vodka properly chilled. ;) |
| 22:49.12 | Mr_Rabies | tbh |
| 22:49.34 | TC-work | Dagmar: drink the vodka, buy the mouse |
| 22:49.37 | Mr_Rabies | almost all the logitech mice from that period had really poorly designed middle mouse buttons |
| 22:49.52 | Mr_Rabies | i love mine, i have a performance MX |
| 22:49.57 | Mr_Rabies | but it's pretty much lefty-hating |
| 22:49.58 | Dagmar | Well, this one's a wheel with side-to-side and everything |
| 22:50.00 | TC-work | and by $40 i mean $60.... |
| 22:50.22 | Fisker | http://torrentfreak.com/paypal-bans-usenet-providers-over-piracy-concerns-121121/ <-didn't know PayPal was also in the extort people for warez business |
| 22:50.24 | TC-work | i need to pay attention when i click things |
| 22:50.24 | Dagmar | I'm not a big fan of mice with a bizarrely wide base |
| 22:50.51 | Dagmar | Fisker: they're not. They're probably getting hassled more by Visa and MC again |
| 22:50.56 | Mr_Rabies | lookit this sexy beast: http://www.productwiki.com/upload/images/logitech_performance_mouse_mx.png |
| 22:50.57 | Mr_Rabies | mmmm |
| 22:51.08 | Dagmar | Oh, and let's not forget the MPAA |
| 22:51.14 | Mr_Rabies | uses a single eneloop for battery |
| 22:51.20 | Fisker | i like how every detected filed is apparently related to missing and molested children Dagmar |
| 22:51.24 | Mr_Rabies | you can pop it out and recharge it in a charger, or connect the usb cable |
| 22:51.37 | Dagmar | Mr_Rabies: What's with the icon under the thumb? |
| 22:51.39 | Mr_Rabies | when it's connected over usb, it sends data, too |
| 22:51.58 | Mr_Rabies | there's a hidden button there dagmar |
| 22:52.02 | Dagmar | Ah |
| 22:52.06 | Mr_Rabies | it's got... |
| 22:52.10 | Mr_Rabies | 4 thumb buttons |
| 22:52.19 | Mr_Rabies | front, back, "zoom" just under front/back |
| 22:52.21 | Mr_Rabies | and that hidden one |
| 22:52.27 | Dagmar | About every six months I go to a brick & mortar store and grope the buttons on the display models. Eventually i'll find another one I like |
| 22:52.29 | Mr_Rabies | which is application switch by default |
| 22:52.33 | Mr_Rabies | but i can change it to anything |
| 22:52.47 | Mr_Rabies | it's got an amazing mousewheel |
| 22:52.47 | Dagmar | The two thumb buttons on the G5 feel nice and solid. I've seen way too many where the buttons are loose |
| 22:53.04 | Dagmar | They have a very short throw, and don't wiggle |
| 22:53.07 | Mr_Rabies | metal base with a rubber "tire" |
| 22:53.19 | Mr_Rabies | and you can swap between ratchet and freespin |
| 22:53.34 | Mr_Rabies | freespin is nice for websites, whereas ratchet is good for video games |
| 22:53.51 | Mr_Rabies | adjustable on the fly dpi, no lag over wireless |
| 22:54.06 | Mr_Rabies | and you can plug it in if you're really paranoid for whatever reason, and it becomes a wired mouse |
| 22:54.09 | Mr_Rabies | over microusb |
| 22:54.11 | TC-work | the G700 can do the same |
| 22:54.26 | Mr_Rabies | does the g700 have a removable battery? |
| 22:54.36 | TC-work | nope |
| 22:54.41 | Mr_Rabies | i've honestly not had great luck with the g series, so i haven't really looked into them |
| 22:54.44 | TC-work | but then that is not something that bothers me |
| 22:54.51 | Mr_Rabies | see, that's a huge feature for me |
| 22:54.56 | Dagmar | This is the one of the line I liked. |
| 22:55.02 | Mr_Rabies | instant recharge by just grabbing another battery out of the drawer |
| 22:55.21 | TC-work | or just plug it in when you are not using it (assuming this is a desktop) |
| 22:55.25 | Dagmar | I'm really not into cordless mice, especially but not exclusively because of how they behave when the battery runs low. |
| 22:55.39 | Mr_Rabies | this one just stops when it's too low |
| 22:55.45 | Dagmar | Plus I've got so much wireless doodaddery going on here already that bandwidth is limited |
| 22:55.55 | TC-work | the nice thing about both mice is the ability to use them with the cable |
| 22:55.59 | Mr_Rabies | it runs for like....2 weeks or so on a charge with heavy usage |
| 22:56.20 | Dagmar | Mr_Rabies: ...and will invariably fail during the second phase of Alexstraza |
| 22:56.25 | Dagmar | It's a _rule_ |
| 22:56.38 | Mr_Rabies | lol |
| 22:56.44 | Mr_Rabies | i get an alert when it's "critical" |
| 22:56.51 | Mr_Rabies | i just swap batteries then |
| 22:57.00 | Mr_Rabies | critical means another 2 days of heavy use |
| 22:57.01 | Mr_Rabies | more or less |
| 22:57.05 | Dagmar | I kept the AA charger within reach of the second desk of the study, because my ex would grab those, or my neck, whichever was handier |
| 22:58.06 | Dagmar | So... a waning charge would take out not one but two DPS all at once |
| 22:58.30 | Dagmar | For some reason the idea of just changing them before the raid never seems to stick with her |
| 22:59.06 | Mr_Rabies | i lost mine in the middle of heroic warmaster once |
| 22:59.15 | Mr_Rabies | still topped the dps chart |
| 22:59.20 | Mr_Rabies | deal with it B) |
| 22:59.21 | Dagmar | arcane? |
| 22:59.24 | Mr_Rabies | feral |
| 22:59.28 | Dagmar | heh |
| 22:59.51 | Mr_Rabies | dodging charges and stuff using just the keyboard is pretty intense |
| 22:59.58 | Mr_Rabies | also not having any control over my camera |
| 22:59.59 | Mr_Rabies | lol |
| 23:00.08 | Dagmar | Yeesh |
| 23:00.28 | Dagmar | I am hoping here will be no more Camera-Hate of Deathwing issues |
| 23:00.44 | Mr_Rabies | for spine? |
| 23:00.49 | Dagmar | That's the one. |
| 23:00.55 | Mr_Rabies | agreed |
| 23:01.02 | Mr_Rabies | especially heroic spine |
| 23:01.08 | Mr_Rabies | adds everywhere, can't see crap |
| 23:03.49 | Mr_Rabies | hmmm |
| 23:03.53 | Mr_Rabies | lei shi sounds like stephanie sheh |
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| 23:04.01 | Mr_Rabies | i wonder if it's her |
| 23:04.31 | Mr_Rabies | i wish blizzard would just properly credit their voice actors |
| 23:04.40 | Mr_Rabies | i don't know how they can get away with so many uncredited roles O_o |
| 23:04.58 | Dagmar | It's being kind to other games. |
| 23:05.17 | Dagmar | If anyone actually knew who the voice actors were for say, Champions Online, they'd never live it down. |
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| 23:05.28 | Mr_Rabies | more like being kind to imdb's database |
| 23:06.25 | zenzelezz | you can generally assume Jennifer Hale is doing some voices |
| 23:06.44 | zenzelezz | she seems to be in 80% of all games with voice acting |
| 23:06.53 | Dagmar | Needs more Felicia |
| 23:06.57 | Mr_Rabies | it's pretty funny |
| 23:07.07 | Mr_Rabies | batman brave and the bold has john dimaggio as every other character |
| 23:07.22 | Mr_Rabies | batman: arkham asylum has steve blum as every other secondary character |
| 23:07.38 | Dagmar | Skyrim has "some guys from the mail room" |
| 23:07.43 | Mr_Rabies | i refer to their respective continuities as Earth DiMaggio and Earth Blum |
| 23:07.55 | Mr_Rabies | I'm not complaining though |
| 23:08.04 | Mr_Rabies | they're both great voice actors with a lot of range |
| 23:08.08 | zenzelezz | I think Oblivion spent their entire voice acting budget on Patrick Stewart |
| 23:08.12 | Mr_Rabies | they're just in so much stuff that you can tell it's them |
| 23:08.23 | Mr_Rabies | HAVE YOU HEARD ABOUT KVATCH? |
| 23:08.56 | Mr_Rabies | brave and the bold is amazing though, anyone remotely interested in batman should watch it |
| 23:09.17 | Mr_Rabies | have some dimaggio singing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2iSKEZA8PQ |
| 23:09.33 | Dagmar | Mr_Rabies: You didn't play Skyrim? Bethesda made a pretty severe oopsie in there |
| 23:09.43 | Mr_Rabies | not really |
| 23:09.47 | Mr_Rabies | not really my kind of game |
| 23:09.52 | Mr_Rabies | i don't really like games with huge overworlds |
| 23:09.56 | zenzelezz | Dagmar: which one? |
| 23:10.08 | Dagmar | They had Max von Sydow doing one of the storyline characters. |
| 23:10.11 | Mr_Rabies | it always seems to sacrifice the core game for sidequests |
| 23:10.29 | Dagmar | They apparently didn't do *all* the voiceover tracks. |
| 23:10.38 | Dagmar | Couldn't get him back to do the few they missed. |
| 23:10.49 | Dagmar | Soo... out of the blue, he'll speak with some other voice entirely. |
| 23:10.52 | zenzelezz | Elder Scrolls *is* pretty much side quests with some thin red line |
| 23:10.59 | Dagmar | zenzeless++ |
| 23:11.20 | Mr_Rabies | argh |
| 23:11.24 | Dagmar | I generally just do not give a damn what the main storyline is in their stuff. |
| 23:11.27 | Mr_Rabies | i wish there was more brave and the bold :( |
| 23:11.32 | Dagmar | I'll come across it when I get around to it. |
| 23:11.41 | Dagmar | In the mean time... so much room for looting and pillaging! |
| 23:11.48 | zenzelezz | Dagmar: same |
| 23:12.03 | zenzelezz | for Oblivion I wasn't even aware I wasn't doing the main quest |
| 23:13.55 | Mr_Rabies | there's even a doctor who reference in brave and the bold |
| 23:13.58 | Mr_Rabies | that's how rad it is |
| 23:14.16 | Mr_Rabies | a batman show with a doctor who reference |
| 23:14.26 | Dagmar | heh |
| 23:14.43 | Mr_Rabies | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYpiX0gMOJc |
| 23:16.26 | Mr_Rabies | rip hunter is an established character that predates dr who, but the effect of time traveling here is a definite reference |
| 23:16.49 | Dagmar | Umm... pre-dates Doctor Who? Suuuuure. |
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| 23:17.17 | Mr_Rabies | rip hunter's from 1959 :o |
| 23:17.25 | Mr_Rabies | dr who started in...1963? i think? |
| 23:17.36 | Dagmar | Doctor Who was around to hang out with Da Vinci and Picasso |
| 23:17.52 | Mr_Rabies | rip hunter is basically DC Comics' version of a Time Lord |
| 23:18.20 | Mr_Rabies | "Time Master" he's called |
| 23:19.04 | Mr_Rabies | Booster Gold is the best time traveler though |
| 23:19.46 | Arrowmaster | Dagmar: our neighbors are acting crazy again, http://www.alternet.org/belief/year-jail-not-believing-god-how-kentucky-persecuting-atheists |
| 23:21.04 | Mr_Rabies | i love revisionists Arrowmaster |
| 23:21.12 | Mr_Rabies | “The church-state divide is not a line I see,” Riner told The New York Times shortly after the law was first challenged in court. “What I do see is an attempt to separate America from its history of perceiving itself as a nation under God.” |
| 23:21.18 | Dagmar | That would be a good reason for a jailbreak |
| 23:21.39 | Mr_Rabies | you mean the clause you idiots added to the pledge during the red scare? |
| 23:23.43 | Dagmar | I see functional illiteracy. |
| 23:25.11 | Dagmar | Maybe we should try requiring all elected officials pass a comprehensive US history exam before being allowed to take office |
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| 23:32.52 | Torhal | I love how "you idiots" makes it into a conversation about shit that happened in this country before I was even fucking born. |
| 23:33.57 | Arrowmaster | oh steam sale is up |
| 23:34.06 | TC-work | yep |
| 23:34.16 | Arrowmaster | but i already own everything on sale thats less than $20 |
| 23:34.19 | TC-work | more money sucking games that i will never play to buy |
| 23:37.49 | lcd | I bought a time card and it turned out to be a starter edition card. :/ |
| 23:37.56 | lcd | So now I'm without Wow. |
| 23:38.15 | lcd | Why do they sell starter edition cards when you can get it for free? |
| 23:38.23 | Mr_Rabies | <Torhal> I love how "you idiots" makes it into a conversation about shit that happened in this country before I was even fucking born. |
| 23:38.34 | Mr_Rabies | doesn't make them any less idiotic :p |
| 23:39.08 | Torhal | I just don't understand grouping people who didn't even exist at the time in with those who did |
| 23:39.11 | Torhal | .THAT is idiotic :P |
| 23:39.21 | lcd | agrees. |
| 23:39.43 | Mr_Rabies | i'm sure that guy probably did exist when it was added :p |
| 23:40.10 | Torhal | I took "you idiots" to mean Americans, which I am but didn't even exist when THOSE idiots added that shit. |
| 23:40.44 | Mr_Rabies | i'm an american too :p |
| 23:41.20 | Mr_Rabies | i meant "you idiots" as in people like this guy who can't understand why church and state should be seperate :p |
| 23:41.29 | Torhal | Ah. |
| 23:41.38 | Mr_Rabies | somehow he's a democrat though, i thought all the dixiecrats were expelled O_o |
| 23:41.41 | Torhal | My hwole thing was him claiming shit that simply isn't true. |
| 23:41.49 | Torhal | whole* |
| 23:45.46 | lcd | No this is a game card box. The game card's just not in there. :/ |
| 23:45.49 | lcd | fuck |
| 23:47.27 | Mr_Rabies | theft of game cards is pretty common from what i understand |
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