| 00:13.42 | Maldivia | Uhh... BSG: Blood & Chrome being release on machinima's youtube channel... |
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| 00:45.59 | Vlad| | http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/5848175614?page=1#15 |
| 00:47.54 | TC-work | arent bytes supposed to be capital? |
| 00:48.10 | foxlit | let's consult the caremeter. |
| 00:48.26 | TC-work | well, when you use b/sec it makes a diff |
| 00:48.43 | TC-work | also your caremeter is slow foxlit |
| 00:50.42 | foxlit | it's a las vegas caremeter. |
| 00:51.23 | foxlit | (as opposed to a monte carlo caremeter) |
| 00:56.43 | mckenziemc | heh |
| 00:56.50 | mckenziemc | how much bandwidth does wow use in a dung |
| 00:58.04 | Vlad| | lol :p |
| 00:58.16 | Vlad| | I'd assume 1500 b/sec per person while in combat |
| 00:58.57 | mckenziemc | bits or bytes? |
| 00:58.58 | mckenziemc | :p |
| 00:59.12 | Vlad| | assume 468 kilobyte per minute |
| 00:59.45 | Vlad| | I doubt more than 30 megabyte per hour |
| 01:00.42 | mckenziemc | i haven't tried dungeons since 5.0, but i could do them on 24kbit/s dialup |
| 01:00.53 | mckenziemc | mostly |
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| 01:17.09 | Torhal | Cairenn: http://i.imgur.com/aO1mF.jpg |
| 01:17.27 | Cairenn | lol |
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| 01:35.54 | mckenziemc | Torhal: |
| 01:36.09 | Torhal | I blame you for everything fucked-up in life, mckenziemc. |
| 01:36.17 | mckenziemc | thanks |
| 01:36.19 | mckenziemc | i'm flattered |
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| 01:39.59 | pompy | aww good work Torhal lol |
| 01:40.30 | Torhal | http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=cf6_1352136453 |
| 01:40.55 | pompy | way to misspell terminator |
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| 01:45.56 | Arrowmaster | the firefly references in the new castle are over the top |
| 01:46.07 | Arrowmaster | and its only been 4 minutes |
| 01:49.15 | Jammer | can't have too many :p |
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| 01:54.14 | pompy | Samsung donating $3 million to aid relief to people affected on the east coast by the hurricane, very nice. |
| 02:10.03 | Dagmar | Decisions, decisions... Should I spend $7 to "promote" my Facebook post reminding Tennessean voters that tomorrow is their last chance to vote for our very own pro-rape candidate, Bob Corker. |
| 02:10.21 | Dagmar | ...because rapists shouldn't have to fear a judge if their employer is okay with it. |
| 02:13.38 | Arrowmaster | you can pay to "promote" your post? |
| 02:14.00 | Dagmar | Yep. |
| 02:14.53 | TC-work | Welcome to the 21st century |
| 02:15.02 | Dagmar | Up until now I've been pretty good at resisting the temptation to troll the fuck out of the election. |
| 02:15.49 | Dagmar | ...although in part I've been too busy the past two weeks to really get out and flyer the town to let people know they've got a pro-rape canditate they can stand behind. |
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| 02:45.19 | pompy | http://www.facebook.com/groups/58317683643/permalink/10151188557688644/?comment_id=10151189496468644&offset=0&total_comments=8 lol |
| 02:52.24 | bleeter | TC-work: hmm? oh. probably. will recheck, thx. :) |
| 03:08.43 | Vlad| | curious, if I run a function that may error, lua error, how can I make sure that the lines after the function call are always executed? |
| 03:08.49 | Vlad| | like a try catch finally type of thing :P |
| 03:09.16 | Vlad| | func() -- if this errors |
| 03:09.17 | Vlad| | othercode() -- this never runs |
| 03:11.20 | Torhal | Vlad|: Make it not error. |
| 03:11.34 | Vlad| | hehe, I am working on that :P |
| 03:11.39 | Vlad| | can never be 100% sure with locales |
| 03:12.11 | Vlad| | pattern matches may return an unexpected string on some language that has the words all "messed up" so, was curious if I can make it solid and error back safely without breaking :P |
| 03:13.04 | Vlad| | lua needs a matcher that supports format patterns :( |
| 03:13.17 | Vlad| | string.match("hello bob!", "hello %s!") :( |
| 03:14.42 | Torhal | Vlad|: ("Hello, Bob!"):match("Hello (%a+)") |
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| 03:15.00 | Vlad| | the point was so we can use the globalstring patterns and directly match messages |
| 03:15.21 | Vlad| | would make parsing much easier cross locales, wouldn't need to make weird functions to reverse the format patterns first and make them usable with match :D |
| 03:15.23 | Torhal | Vlad|: Give me an example of a global string? |
| 03:15.45 | Vlad| | PET_BATTLE_COMBAT_LOG_DAMAGE = %s dealt %d damage to %s %s%s. |
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| 03:16.36 | Vlad| | the patterns can contain unescaped characters like paranthesis or dots, so need to escape those and at the same time convert the %s and other similar characters into proper matching patterns. |
| 03:17.01 | Vlad| | it can get quite complex if you involve weird stuff like %2.10f or %2$s type stuff |
| 03:17.31 | Vlad| | hence why just gief a match that works with patterns :D |
| 03:17.45 | Torhal | Vlad|: local PET_BATTLE_COMBAT_LOG_DAMAGE_MATCH = PET_BATTLE_COMBAT_LOG_DAMAGE:gsub("%%s", "(%%a+)"):gsub(whatever else) |
| 03:18.10 | Vlad| | I know how I can do it Torhal, just shame I need to convert the patterns first before using them. |
| 03:18.19 | Torhal | Erm, ok. |
| 03:18.25 | Vlad| | :D |
| 03:18.37 | Vlad| | I was merely wishing we could directly use it in the match api ^^ |
| 03:18.39 | Torhal | You could also use LibDeformat which was written to do this. |
| 03:19.46 | Vlad| | yeah |
| 03:19.48 | Vlad| | oh This project is abandoned. :< |
| 03:19.55 | Vlad| | ckknight :( |
| 03:20.00 | Torhal | It still works.. |
| 03:20.34 | Torhal | But really, you could just do your own conversions unless you have a metric fuckton. |
| 03:20.58 | Vlad| | I wrote function addonData:FormatMatcher(pattern, catcher) |
| 03:20.58 | Vlad| | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:20.58 | Vlad| | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:20.58 | Vlad| | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:20.58 | Vlad| | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:20.58 | Vlad| | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:20.59 | Vlad| | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:21.00 | Vlad| | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:21.00 | Vlad| | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:21.00 | Vlad| | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:21.01 | Vlad| | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:21.01 | Vlad| | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:21.03 | Torhal | Whoah dude |
| 03:21.19 | Vlad| | I was pasting the url but it didn't copy so it pasted the stuff I was pasteybinning :P |
| 03:21.22 | Vlad| | http://pastebin.com/vCcMxvNB |
| 03:21.39 | Vlad| | just copied it from my addon |
| 03:22.08 | Torhal | Ah. |
| 03:22.49 | Vlad| | I wonder if there are benefits to using (.-) versus (.+) |
| 03:23.17 | Vlad| | in cases where you match stuff like "[Item Name]x5" if the name contains "x" the .- version will assume what follows after said x is the count :P |
| 03:23.27 | Vlad| | yet I dislike using .+ for it is glutton |
| 03:24.29 | Vlad| | btw Torhal http://s.cdn.wowinterface.com/preview/pvw50198.png :D |
| 03:25.01 | Vlad| | old screenshot but it's the idea that is awesome :3 |
| 03:25.14 | Torhal | Cool. |
| 03:25.25 | Vlad| | I know right |
| 03:25.39 | Torhal | Don't know; do you? :) |
| 03:25.54 | Vlad| | lol |
| 03:26.29 | Vlad| | it's 4:30 |
| 03:26.33 | Vlad| | should sleep asap :( |
| 03:26.43 | Dagmar | You hate %d? |
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| 03:26.48 | Vlad| | no |
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| 03:27.12 | Vlad| | just that I need to make the function more smart, more bloated, if it is to distinct and properly use %d :P |
| 03:27.41 | Dagmar | I seriously doubt that |
| 03:28.10 | Dagmar | "Half-using" pattern matching is wasteful |
| 03:28.44 | Vlad| | I'll rework a bit on my pattern matching logic to fix the issue with the matching I am having, just saying, would be nice if the lua engine supported matching by format-patterns ^^ |
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| 03:29.25 | Vlad| | if you think it's not needed then (1) you don't need to use globalstrings to match log messages (2) you like writing a library for everything you code (3) you are a socialist |
| 03:29.41 | Dagmar | It's not like you're forbidden from convering the format strings into patterns. |
| 03:29.57 | Vlad| | I am fond of the last part lol |
| 03:30.32 | Torhal | Lua doesn't prevent you from making it happen, it's simply not intuitively built in because Lua is meant to be tiny. |
| 03:30.45 | Torhal | This isn't Python :) |
| 03:31.07 | Dagmar | It would also be insane. |
| 03:31.08 | Vlad| | we are talking about wow lua here tough, couldn't harm to bloat it a little bit more :P |
| 03:31.38 | Torhal | o.O |
| 03:31.42 | Dagmar | If you had a nice table of supplied format strings, which are used to format output from events, it would make more sense just to hook the events directly and not piddle around with stringifying it just to reverse it |
| 03:32.15 | Vlad| | either I am too tired or it's you, Dagmar :P |
| 03:32.21 | Vlad| | I didn't really understand lol :D |
| 03:33.00 | Dagmar | If you're writing your own format strings just to convert them into patterns, you have _definitely_ lost your mind. |
| 03:33.14 | Vlad| | shame but the game uses the globalstrings and on the C side it formats many events and outputs the finished string in the event, instead of arguments :( wish they'd use more arguments. |
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| 03:33.47 | Vlad| | no I am writing to convert patterns used in format to work with match - that can't be loosing my mind can it? :D |
| 03:34.07 | Torhal | I just do it directly, ala: |
| 03:34.08 | Torhal | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:34.34 | Dagmar | It's in those cases where you're going to have to do something specific with each message anyway that it's not going to be made much simpler by trying to hook myriads of subtly different events individually |
| 03:35.52 | Vlad| | on the topic of structure, I already said I am recoding my method soon, it's a bit outdated :p anyway, I was just saying using match with format-patterns would be nice :P |
| 03:36.11 | Vlad| | I know you can code your own code and make it work, hehe ^^ |
| 03:36.51 | Dagmar | It just makes things needlessly fragile is all |
| 03:37.15 | Vlad| | something like string.fmatch wouldn't break reality, I am sure ;) |
| 03:37.39 | Xuerian | Vlad|: You don't have to use it, but you realize there is a perfectly serviceable pattern inverter in LibLootEvents that will safely handle the majority of events and provide user-readable errors when it fails? I mean, I'm all for reinventing the wheel, but I've already done it twice so maybe you could at least measure my wheel and scratch your chin about it |
| 03:37.49 | Vlad| | I know Xuerian of your lib ;D |
| 03:38.06 | Xuerian | I'm not even talking about the lib, I'm talking about the function inside of it that's doing exactly what you're trying to do |
| 03:38.24 | Dagmar | It would be computationally wasteful to be forever converting format strings to patterns. |
| 03:38.26 | Vlad| | I just like to make my own stuff, is all :3 |
| 03:38.48 | pompy | :( Fuck you mother nature, fuck you.. http://www.twp.brick.nj.us/content.asp?ContentId=2860 |
| 03:38.54 | Vlad| | C has a function that can match with format patterns tough, and C is known to be efficient too :3 |
| 03:38.59 | Xuerian | Vlad|: Hi, I'm Xuerian, sufferer of "Not invented here" syndrome |
| 03:39.00 | Dagmar | ..and the result would be that the target strings would now have to stay within what you expressed as a format string as well as what it turns into when converted to a pattern. |
| 03:39.39 | Torhal | Vlad|: C also has a vast library and was designed fof systems work - Lua wasn't. |
| 03:39.48 | Torhal | Lua was designed to be iny and flexible. |
| 03:40.16 | Vlad| | I am giggling :D |
| 03:40.25 | Dagmar | Uhh... Proper C programmers just use fucking regexp |
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| 03:40.40 | Xuerian | Proper C programmers have access to fucking regexp too, to be fair |
| 03:40.40 | Vlad| | wish I could :3 |
| 03:41.10 | Vlad| | I like how a suggestion for an addition broke out a full fledged performance war :D |
| 03:41.43 | Dagmar | ...and I have _never_ seen a format string _matcher_ in standard C. |
| 03:41.50 | Dagmar | Output yes. Matching, no. |
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| 03:42.36 | Dagmar | It's not a performance war. It's the difference between doing a whole set of extra steps, and not bothering. |
| 03:43.06 | Xuerian | Dagmar: Also, to continue the fairness thing, having to match against format strings isn't something a C programmer usually has to do. |
| 03:43.28 | Dagmar | That's true |
| 03:43.34 | Vlad| | as mentioned earler, just let the events get the parameters and not a pre-formatted string from the C side :p |
| 03:43.37 | Vlad| | earlier* |
| 03:43.44 | Vlad| | would solve this pattern situation ;) |
| 03:43.51 | Dagmar | With the amount of beating on that regexp has tho, I'm not sure it would make sense to do anything other than just apply a regexp conversion to the format string anyway |
| 03:43.51 | Xuerian | Vlad|: Only going to happen when a in-house dev needs to write a addon that uses those events |
| 03:44.16 | Vlad| | but I've already seen some addons made by devs :D |
| 03:44.30 | Vlad| | shame they don't make more parsing like addons :p |
| 03:44.31 | Xuerian | Vlad|: Yeah, like the loot history frame. Suddenly. C.LootHistory |
| 03:45.34 | Vlad| | what does the C stand for? :D |
| 03:45.52 | Xuerian | going to go with C. |
| 03:46.14 | Dagmar | It's probably an unsubtle hint that it's just a wrapper for a c function. |
| 03:46.56 | Vlad| | but nearly all the api is already C :p |
| 03:46.57 | Dagmar | It could be gay marriage rights propaganda tho'. You never know. |
| 03:53.53 | Vlad| | good night. Dagmar Torhal relax and be happy :D |
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| 03:54.59 | Xuerian | And I thought I had NIH bad. |
| 04:00.24 | Torhal | [21:46:56] <Vlad|> but nearly all the api is already C :p <-- o.O |
| 04:00.31 | Torhal | Dafuq? |
| 04:08.18 | Arrowmaster | i just had a peak at 538 after not looking for a few days and just had to lol |
| 04:08.55 | Kraps | http://blue.mmo-champion.com/topic/243444-suspend-dailies-on-election-day/ |
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| 04:14.54 | antodan | Can someone look this code over for me? http://pastebin.com/88EpJWdm |
| 04:15.25 | antodan | The goal was to prevent access to the minimap |
| 04:16.09 | Dagmar | That seems... um... strange. |
| 04:17.00 | antodan | It's for a roleplaying thing I'm making. |
| 04:17.24 | Dagmar | So.... You can't just ask the player to turn it off? |
| 04:17.37 | Dagmar | Like, you have to actively prevent them from regaining access to it? |
| 04:17.50 | antodan | Yes. |
| 04:17.55 | Seerah | and then they wonder why they can't look at their map? |
| 04:18.23 | Dagmar | Cuz you know... they can't possibly just load up SexyMap or something |
| 04:20.14 | Arrowmaster | lol 32gb surface tablet only has 16gb of free space |
| 04:22.25 | Dagmar | Good lord |
| 04:22.37 | Dagmar | They are the KING of bloatware |
| 04:23.12 | Cairenn | Okay, as a general rule I never talk politics outside my own family, but I'm going to break my rule for this one. To all the folks in the US that are going to the polls tomorrow .... please, for all that you hold dear, please please PLEASE, don't vote Romney into power. Sincerely, one of your neighbours to the north. |
| 04:24.19 | Dagmar | I may consider Jet Blue's offer |
| 04:24.35 | karl_w_w | what Cairenn said |
| 04:24.50 | Seerah | *agree* |
| 04:25.01 | karl_w_w | except replace north with distant west south west |
| 04:25.01 | Cairenn | is utterly terrified by that prospect. |
| 04:25.38 | kd3 | the fun part of living in a red state is that my presidential vote (cast last week) utterly doesn't matter one whit |
| 04:25.43 | Dagmar | If by some freakish twist of fate Romney wins, I have enough money to transplant to Canada and apply for citizenship, but a free flight there would be nice. |
| 04:34.47 | karl_w_w | Wobin agrees as well |
| 05:07.13 | Thunder_Child | Well, at least i can skip the apply for citizenship part, but the idea has merit. |
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| 06:07.56 | kd3 | http://isnatesilverawitch.com/ |
| 06:08.04 | kd3 | hopefully this won't change in ~20 hours |
| 06:09.26 | durcyn | wouldn't it changing signify that scary white guy losing? |
| 06:09.44 | kd3 | 538's been calling for an obama win the whole time |
| 06:10.26 | durcyn | i suppose i'm unclear as to which outcome indicates witchcraft |
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| 06:14.45 | kd3 | anyway, time for bed. I'm going to be at work for most of the day. this should be amusing |
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| 06:32.49 | Mr_Rabies | ung |
| 06:32.57 | Mr_Rabies | why is batman brave and the bold so good |
| 06:33.16 | Mr_Rabies | never expected a doctor who reference in batman |
| 06:33.17 | Mr_Rabies | D: |
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| 06:39.34 | Wobin | Indeed. I agree. Please don't vote Romney =\ |
| 06:42.12 | Wobin | as the man says: https://twitter.com/davepell/status/265684011366633473 |
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| 07:02.48 | durcyn | there are plenty of highly intelligent sociopaths voting for the other guy, Wobin, they're called bankers. |
| 07:14.50 | Neffi | Whether you're right or not, ad hominem never makes a productive argument |
| 07:14.58 | Neffi | If you're gonna argue politics, at least do it right |
| 07:16.38 | Cairenn | What if we want to do it left? |
| 07:16.56 | Neffi | Now that was clever |
| 07:17.05 | Neffi | =) |
| 07:17.13 | Cairenn | I have my moments. |
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| 07:25.24 | Wobin | Neffi: re durcyn's reply, or mine? |
| 07:27.03 | Neffi | Both of yours |
| 07:27.37 | Wobin | Mine doesn't actually define as ad hominem |
| 07:28.35 | Neffi | It defines as something closely similar that I don't remember |
| 07:28.53 | Wobin | well, there are two parts. a) Voting for Obama because of a pre-existing condition. |
| 07:29.03 | Wobin | and b) a pre-existing condition being that of being 'smart' |
| 07:29.10 | Xuerian | Cairenn, attempting to diffuse political brushfires calmly since ever. |
| 07:29.29 | Wobin | The first is an obvious reference to Obamacare |
| 07:29.44 | Wobin | the second, a definition of 'smart' |
| 07:29.51 | Wobin | neither of which is ad hominem |
| 07:30.14 | Wobin | if it were something like "Vote for Obama or you're dumb", then sure. |
| 07:30.25 | Wobin | s/you're/your/ |
| 07:30.38 | Neffi | But that's exactly what it is saying |
| 07:30.43 | Wobin | no it's not |
| 07:30.58 | Xuerian | ... |
| 07:31.01 | Neffi | Saying I'm voting for A because I'm smart implies that voting for B means you're not smart |
| 07:31.06 | Wobin | no it doesn't |
| 07:31.06 | Xuerian | Did you intentionally fix that and break it? I'm confused |
| 07:31.12 | Wobin | Xuerian: yes =P |
| 07:31.19 | Xuerian | Ok, just so I know. |
| 07:31.30 | Wobin | No it's saying "I'm voting for Obama, because of Obamacare" |
| 07:31.34 | Wobin | "Ps, I'm smart" |
| 07:31.56 | Wobin | That in no way implies any 'dumb', anywhere |
| 07:32.31 | Neffi | Whatever |
| 07:32.46 | Wobin | heheh =) |
| 07:32.55 | Neffi | By the way when I say whatever, I'm saying you're dumb and I'm not arguing with somebody dumb |
| 07:33.07 | Wobin | now -that's- ad hominem! Well done! |
| 07:33.13 | Neffi | Just to clarify since semantics is the core of all arguments right now |
| 07:33.27 | Wobin | awards Neffi a STAR |
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| 09:33.17 | Tsulong | hey guys |
| 09:36.05 | karl_w_w | !galleon |
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| 09:40.18 | Tsulong | Haha hey karl |
| 09:40.23 | Tsulong | :D it took blackrock by storm |
| 09:40.31 | Tsulong | im thinkin about the 1.4 update here soon tho :D |
| 09:40.44 | Xuerian | Oh lord. You're to blame for that |
| 09:41.08 | Xuerian | "Hey is he up ye !GALLEON!GALLEON!GALLEON!GALLEON!NOCARRIER |
| 09:41.49 | karl_w_w | lolblackrock |
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| 12:15.15 | Semlar | sup |
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| 13:25.30 | karl_w_w | http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20121025043823AAJRytN lol |
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| 13:28.33 | karl_w_w | There's no place like 127.0.0.1 |
| 13:29.58 | Stanzilla | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PB_4bXC2Gag |
| 13:30.21 | Lopeppeppy | Spam spam spam spam, spam spam spam spam... |
| 13:31.14 | karl_w_w | I'm not sure that's true Lopeppeppy |
| 13:32.45 | Lopeppeppy | It never is. |
| 13:32.53 | Stanzilla | that video is for you, Lopeppeppy |
| 13:33.57 | Lopeppeppy | Awwww. Poor hedgit. He's not very afraid or he'd curl though, all he does is tuck his nose. |
| 13:36.31 | Stanzilla | while is cuddled across the floor |
| 13:36.35 | Stanzilla | *he |
| 13:37.11 | Lopeppeppy | Yeah, but the first thing a scared hedgit does it curl, so he's used to this, and doesn't think he's going to be eaten. |
| 13:37.47 | Stanzilla | :) |
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| 13:55.41 | alestane | http://threepanelsoul.com/2012/11/06/on-other-interests/ amuses me. I think mostly because the mage character feels more like an actual mage who had to go into the office, than an escapist cubicle drone cosplaying at work. |
| 14:05.17 | Lopeppeppy | Poor mage. |
| 14:06.47 | alestane | Yeah, HR's a tough business. |
| 14:21.15 | Ackis | my server hasn't gone down for maint yet |
| 14:29.00 | Dagmar | I think you're just jealous because your office doesn't have a demon capable of sucking all the acting skill from a living body, leaving it alive but unable to realize anything is wrong. |
| 14:30.32 | Dagmar | I'd be interested in seeing if they could even convincingly announce they were on fire, while actually being on fire. |
| 14:31.07 | Lopeppeppy | That sounds sexy, Dagmar. |
| 14:31.48 | Dagmar | You're just attracted to how they can still seem like it's their first time in front of a webcam, every time. ;) |
| 14:34.35 | Lopeppeppy | What am web cam? |
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| 15:05.43 | Fisker | slaps Lopeppeppy around a bit with a large trout |
| 15:06.18 | Lopeppeppy | Lunch already? |
| 15:07.21 | mitch0 | lynch |
| 15:08.15 | Torhal|work | mitch0: Trout-lynching? |
| 15:08.19 | Torhal|work | Awesome! |
| 15:09.13 | Lopeppeppy | No. I saw fish porn once and my life has been horrible since. |
| 15:11.14 | Torhal|work | Lopeppeppy: You should have known that going in. |
| 15:11.23 | Torhal|work | Don't fuck with Rule 34. |
| 15:13.33 | Lopeppeppy | I know. I was playing "I dare you to gross me out" with my best interweb friend. He totally won. |
| 15:18.05 | Kraps | what |
| 15:18.22 | Kraps | sever lack of judgment there |
| 15:18.33 | Kraps | e |
| 15:19.46 | Lopeppeppy | Sometimes you have to take a dare, Kraps, or you just never grow. |
| 15:21.55 | Kraps | the things ive seen since joining something awful and its pony splinter site make me wish i hadnt grown :( |
| 15:23.01 | Lopeppeppy | I just gotta be brave, Kraps. :) |
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| 15:40.23 | Unkle | STATION! |
| 15:40.44 | Lopeppeppy | YES! YES, YES, YES!!! |
| 15:40.54 | pompy | http://www.foxnews.com/weather/2012/11/06/noreaster-has-sandy-ravaged-region-in-its-crosshairs/ |
| 15:40.55 | pompy | :( |
| 15:41.10 | pompy | whyyy. |
| 15:41.13 | Lopeppeppy | Tell me about it, pompy. Thrilling stuff, that weather. |
| 15:41.20 | pompy | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:41.27 | Unkle | I'll have what she's having. |
| 15:41.35 | pompy | hurricane, eartthquake, now nor'easter |
| 15:42.00 | Unkle | pompy At least you're alive, fed, have power and internet. |
| 15:42.22 | pompy | as of this moment lol |
| 15:42.25 | pompy | maybe not tomorrow |
| 15:43.23 | Unkle | Be sure to stock up on food, water, batteries, and toilet paper. Never underestimate how much TP you will use. |
| 15:43.57 | pompy | truth. |
| 15:44.08 | pompy | last week was 55 hours wiothout power |
| 15:44.12 | pompy | but had water! |
| 15:44.21 | pompy | city water ftw |
| 15:44.27 | Lopeppeppy | If I'm more than 8 hours without power, I lose water. FTL. |
| 15:52.39 | TC-work | I bet that let a lot of people catch up on their reading |
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| 15:54.30 | karl_w_w | TC-work: either that or a lot of people spent a lot of time using their phone to tweeting/facebooking/redditing etc how shit their lives were |
| 15:54.42 | karl_w_w | -to |
| 15:55.09 | TC-work | karl_w_w: I doubt it, how would they charge it? |
| 15:55.29 | TC-work | other than the public chargers people were offering. |
| 15:55.32 | karl_w_w | well I'm talking about the people without an iphone 5 of course :P |
| 15:55.54 | TC-work | huh? |
| 15:56.07 | karl_w_w | battery life joke, too subtle |
| 15:56.19 | TC-work | I didn't know it had shit battery life |
| 15:56.49 | Unkle | It doesn't. |
| 15:57.11 | TC-work | then what the hell is karl talking aobut |
| 15:57.31 | Unkle | Most people who complain about battery life on a smartphone have every bell/whistle and battery-draining feature on 24/7 and never put their phone to sleep. |
| 15:58.02 | karl_w_w | maybe it's unique to the australian version |
| 15:58.51 | Unkle | the iphone 5 did have a slightly shorter battery life (based on specs) than the 4/4s, but only marginally so. |
| 15:59.50 | TC-work | sounds like it's less than marginal in some places |
| 16:01.16 | Unkle | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/7005434873 - his last line is so lol |
| 16:06.29 | alestane | He's apparently under the impression that making software development a process with perfectly controlled output is straightforward or feasible. |
| 16:06.57 | Unkle | You say impression, I say delusion. |
| 16:08.27 | TC-work | Actually, blizz fixed it in D3..... |
| 16:11.23 | TC-work | "You've been selected by us to try out this new instant manifestation system." that is a great spam email opening line. |
| 16:15.14 | Unkle | Greetings, Starfighter. You have been recruited by the Star League to defend the Frontier against Xur and the Ko-dan Armada. |
| 16:15.15 | Corrodias | "But if any code decides to corrupt the value of the global underscore variable" -- isn't this nonsensical? |
| 16:15.39 | Semlar | which part |
| 16:16.13 | Corrodias | the idea that _ is something that you should ever use to hold a value you want later |
| 16:16.23 | Corrodias | that it can be "corrupted" |
| 16:16.52 | Corrodias | last i heard, the convention in Lua was to use that as a throwaway thing |
| 16:16.54 | Semlar | corrupted in the sense that if blizzard globalizes it in one of their scripts it can be tainted |
| 16:17.35 | Semlar | i believe they fixed their global underscore leak though |
| 16:18.08 | Corrodias | ah |
| 16:19.03 | Semlar | the problem we had was it was globalized in the framexml, so if you accidentally assigned a value to the global underscore instead of a local one you ended up tainting the interface |
| 16:19.34 | Semlar | which i think made the glyph frame stop working or something |
| 16:46.15 | Shirik | oo |
| 16:46.17 | Shirik | http://www.joystiq.com/2012/11/05/wizards-of-the-coast-sued-over-electronic-trading-card-patent/ |
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| 16:52.06 | Fisker | Shirik |
| 16:52.40 | alestane | That's another one of those patents that never should have been recognized. |
| 16:52.49 | Fisker | Don't they mean "Taking an idea that already exists and slapping "But for computers" on the side of it and patenting it"? |
| 16:55.37 | Fisker | Shirik |
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| 16:55.52 | Shirik | hey Fisker |
| 16:55.54 | Shirik | yes |
| 16:55.58 | Fisker | is is still too late to declare candidacy for the presidency? |
| 16:56.07 | Fisker | Need someone to disband uspto |
| 16:56.33 | haste | anyone tested the 310 nvidia linux drivers yet? :3 |
| 16:56.41 | Fisker | ages ago haste |
| 16:56.46 | Fisker | and i'm not even using linux |
| 16:56.57 | Fisker | btw Alram was bombed in the nvidia press release |
| 16:57.01 | haste | I would have tested them ages ago myself, but I'm still at work |
| 16:57.06 | Fisker | nvidianews.nvidia.com/Releases/NVIDIA-Delivers-Massive-Performance-Boost-to-Linux-Gaming-8ac.aspx |
| 16:57.11 | Fisker | http://nvidianews.nvidia.com/Releases/NVIDIA-Delivers-Massive-Performance-Boost-to-Linux-Gaming-8ac.aspx |
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| 16:57.24 | Fisker | you've been to work for several weeks haste ? |
| 16:57.27 | Fisker | damn |
| 16:57.32 | haste | wat |
| 16:57.39 | Fisker | beta has been out for like a month now? |
| 16:57.40 | Lopeppeppy | I only just NOW set my watch back an hour. WTF where has my brain been all week? |
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| 16:58.08 | Fisker | WTF where has the hardware and software capable of doing it for you been all week Lopeppeppy ? |
| 16:59.14 | nilyaK | has no issues with 310 drivers on x64 win7 |
| 17:00.11 | haste | hopefully the threaded opengl stuff works amazingly well on Linux! |
| 17:02.08 | Lopeppeppy | My watch is all hardware, Fisker, nothing auto about it. Either I do it, or it don't get done. |
| 17:02.09 | TC-work | chrome is trying to spell-check Nvidia to Dravidian. Because that's much better. |
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| 17:07.10 | Fisker | sucks to be you Lopeppeppy |
| 17:09.47 | Lopeppeppy | Tragedy, I has it. |
| 17:10.21 | nilyaK | thought: why am I not playing wow? (Tries to login) oh right... |
| 17:10.36 | Lopeppeppy | Happy tuesday. |
| 17:11.04 | nilyaK | we'll see, marriage equality on the ballot here, /hopes it passes. |
| 17:11.10 | karl_w_w | happy re-elect obama day |
| 17:12.19 | Fisker | i wish |
| 17:14.46 | Unkle | Honestly, it boggles my mind that treating humans like humans requires us to have laws stating that it must be so. |
| 17:14.57 | nilyaK | me, too =/ |
| 17:15.27 | nilyaK | of course, it drives me crazy that I can't be with my roommate either so I guess I am just a pretty weird girl. |
| 17:15.34 | nilyaK | she's so awesome omg :( |
| 17:16.37 | Lopeppeppy | Dating where you live is... dangerous living. :) |
| 17:16.42 | Unkle | The law is a tool to apply to "other people." It's the hammer by which we make everyone conform. Very rarely does anyone ever say "There ought to be a law," where they mean it should apply to themselves. |
| 17:17.00 | Lopeppeppy | Unkle, if I treated you like a human being, could that mean that I could send you to the Bastille? |
| 17:18.05 | nilyaK | I know, which is prob one of the many reasons she doesn't want to go out with me but still =/ |
| 17:18.30 | Unkle | nilyaK I have rules for such things; never put myself in a position where my own motives can't be clear to me and where I can't act on them forthrightly. Not saying you're underhanded or anything, but ... wouldn't your life be less tense if you weren't roomies with the object of your affections, espcially if they're unrequited? |
| 17:18.52 | Unkle | Lopeppeppy Did I do something worthy of locking me in a tower room? |
| 17:19.07 | nilyaK | probably, but my other roommates in the past have been pretty awful. |
| 17:19.18 | nilyaK | idk if I want to roll the dice again :( |
| 17:19.51 | Unkle | *nod* I'm assuming that your current roomie is hetero and you're not. And thus the unrequited. |
| 17:20.03 | nilyaK | no she's bi, she's just not into me. |
| 17:20.20 | Unkle | Well, at least I got the unrequited part right. |
| 17:20.43 | Lopeppeppy | It would be MY tower room, Unkle, wouldn't that be okay? Spiders and stuff. |
| 17:20.57 | Fisker | slaps Lopeppeppy around a bit with a large trout |
| 17:22.33 | Unkle | Lopeppeppy You're a naughty girl. Go to my room. |
| 17:23.21 | Vlad| | !lua local t={function()print(...)end} t[1]("test") |
| 17:23.22 | batbot | Vlad|: @ [string "local t={function()print(...)end} t[1]("test")"]:1: cannot use '...' outside a vararg function near '...' |
| 17:23.28 | Vlad| | !lua local t={function()print(...)end} (t[1])("test") |
| 17:23.29 | batbot | Vlad|: @ [string "local t={function()print(...)end} (t[1])("test")"]:1: cannot use '...' outside a vararg function near '...' |
| 17:23.36 | Vlad| | !lua local t={function(...)print(...)end} t[1]("test") |
| 17:23.37 | batbot | Vlad|: test |
| 17:23.38 | Vlad| | :D |
| 17:23.57 | Lopeppeppy | exactly, Unkle! |
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| 17:28.52 | alestane | "You must spank her well. And after you have spanked her, you may deal with her as you like." |
| 17:29.26 | Unkle | Can't I have just a little peril? |
| 17:29.51 | Lopeppeppy | Always buy your mistress pearls. |
| 17:30.46 | TC-work | Which kind? |
| 17:31.07 | TC-work | although oddly enough i suspect that have the same effect |
| 17:31.14 | TC-work | just in different ways |
| 17:31.36 | Unkle | remains wisely silent since he gets the joke. |
| 17:31.47 | Lopeppeppy | Mmm. I think you should negotiate with your mistress on variety, TC-work. |
| 17:36.57 | TC-work | Like i can afford a mistress. |
| 17:37.21 | nilyaK | is cheap. |
| 17:39.22 | TC-work | That requires me to have a wife first i think |
| 17:40.26 | alestane | Well, I...I suppose I could stay a BIT longer... |
| 17:40.49 | nilyaK | is also single. |
| 17:41.07 | Lopeppeppy | No, TC-work, you can just have a mistress instead. |
| 17:41.17 | Lopeppeppy | looks alestane up and down. |
| 17:41.42 | Lopeppeppy | I used to have a work-husband, but then he got a different job. I was sad to lose him. |
| 17:42.28 | alestane | A "work-husband"? |
| 17:42.57 | alestane | Yes, Peppy? Am I linty or something? |
| 17:43.07 | nilyaK | is that like a working girl only male? |
| 17:43.23 | TC-work | "a woman who has a continuing extramarital sexual relationship with a man" it does specify extramarital |
| 17:43.42 | Lopeppeppy | Eat lunch with a lot, bake for, etc. Someone you have a close relationship with at work that's not an affair. |
| 17:43.49 | nevcairiel | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Work_spouse |
| 17:43.51 | nevcairiel | go wikipedia :P |
| 17:43.52 | Lopeppeppy | Extra marital just means outside marriage. |
| 17:43.55 | TC-work | you mean friend? |
| 17:44.05 | alestane | You don't have to be married to have an extramarital relationship. |
| 17:44.11 | alestane | In fact it makes it much easier. |
| 17:44.26 | nilyaK | no lopeppeppy it does not, one person does http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/extramarital |
| 17:44.37 | TC-work | "pertaining to sexual relations with someone other than one's spouse:" |
| 17:44.39 | Lopeppeppy | No... work spouses are usually a lot closer, and often mix into "emotional cheating" territory. |
| 17:44.49 | Lopeppeppy | That's a gyp, TC. Make her be married then. |
| 17:45.06 | TC-work | uh...yea, i'll go do that.... |
| 17:45.20 | Lopeppeppy | Get right on it. |
| 17:45.33 | TC-work | crazypeppy |
| 17:46.29 | alestane | Best kind! |
| 17:46.43 | nilyaK | is ALSO crazy. |
| 17:47.30 | alestane | for anem, preposition in properties(nilyaK) do |
| 17:47.36 | alestane | Er, name* |
| 17:47.53 | Lopeppeppy | that's about the only kind of Peppy there is, the crazypants kind. |
| 17:48.01 | Lopeppeppy | PS, I'm not wearing pants, just so's you know. |
| 17:48.19 | nilyaK | is wearing workout shorts, but not the skin tight kind so they count. |
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| 17:49.27 | alestane | I saw you off to work once, Peppy, I know you wear skirts, at least sometimes. |
| 17:50.18 | Lopeppeppy | Most times, alestane. I don't much like pants, they get too dirty (or did at my "formative job" where I learned how to dress for work). |
| 17:51.02 | alestane | Ah. Kat learned to wear trous at work when she did help desk, which meant she often got to climb around under desks and tables checking plugs. |
| 17:51.27 | Lopeppeppy | I learned to wear long skirts because I destroyed so many pairs of pants that way, crawling under tables at B&N |
| 17:51.38 | alestane | That, and New England winters... skirts are officially "too darn drafty." |
| 17:52.30 | Lopeppeppy | Meh. I grew up where it was colder, and wore cheerleading skirts to walk to school in negative temps. Freezer burned me bum. |
| 17:53.22 | Mr_Rabies | i wish kilts were more socially acceptable |
| 17:54.06 | alestane | Well, that was silly. |
| 17:54.48 | Lopeppeppy | Mmmm, kilts. |
| 17:55.02 | alestane | The only way to make them ore socially acceptable is to raise their visibility, Mr_Rabies. |
| 17:55.21 | Mr_Rabies | i don't really do much to help the cause |
| 17:55.39 | Mr_Rabies | i laugh at people that buy/wear utilikilts at dragoncon |
| 17:55.46 | Lopeppeppy | That's silly. |
| 17:57.51 | Mr_Rabies | especially the leather ones |
| 17:58.10 | Mr_Rabies | i can't imagine how uncomfortable dragoncon must be in leather of any sort |
| 17:58.19 | Mr_Rabies | even a kilt |
| 17:58.29 | TC-work | alestane: lets not raise a kilts visibility please |
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| 17:59.53 | alestane | It doesn't matter how visible the kilt is. |
| 18:00.06 | alestane | And anyway, that's what kilts at DragonCon are all about. |
| 18:00.40 | Mr_Rabies | doesn't mean it's not funny :( |
| 18:02.39 | Mr_Rabies | http://i.imgur.com/em3oY.jpg |
| 18:02.41 | Mr_Rabies | just like this |
| 18:06.50 | Vlad| | !lua print(("apple"):sub(1, -1)) |
| 18:06.51 | batbot | Vlad|: apple |
| 18:06.55 | Vlad| | :( |
| 18:07.14 | Unkle | Vlad| The bots will take direct messages. |
| 18:07.23 | Vlad| | do I spam that much? :< |
| 18:07.47 | Unkle | No, but one case had about 6 lines of output. |
| 18:08.24 | Vlad| | I know, I try to limit my output to minimum when using the channel :D |
| 18:11.17 | Unkle | Just figured you didn't know. |
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| 18:23.51 | alestane | Mr_Rabies: http://thedevilspanties.com/archives/1936 |
| 18:23.56 | Arrowmaster | i went out and got a sticker |
| 18:26.39 | Arrowmaster | http://imgur.com/YzPsa |
| 18:27.24 | karl_w_w | http://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/sp-legal-case-could-spread-to-europe/story-e6frg8zx-1226511806813 |
| 18:28.32 | karl_w_w | surprised it took this long to get the ball rolling |
| 18:30.09 | Semlar | I OHIO VOTING |
| 18:30.18 | TC-work | and it's also red |
| 18:30.30 | TC-work | looks like Ohio is a blood |
| 18:30.52 | Arrowmaster | so i got my asscreed3 limited edition this morning, took the normal disc case out of it and returned it to gamestop while keeping my gamestop edition so now i have a limited edition without the ugly gamestop branding but still have the gamestop preorder content |
| 18:31.00 | Fisker | everyone that doesn't vote green is bad though |
| 18:31.02 | Arrowmaster | and when i got home halo4 was waiting for me, which should i play |
| 18:31.17 | Arrowmaster | i voted blue all down the page |
| 18:31.25 | Fisker | you shouldn't play either |
| 18:31.31 | Dagmar | I have the cheat sheet in my backpack |
| 18:31.58 | Dagmar | There's a few last minute decisions I can make, but mainly I'm just concerned with not voting for pro-rape candidates like Bob Corker and Lamar Alexander. |
| 18:32.10 | Arrowmaster | we had nice electronic voting machines, when i got done it printed up a paper ballot and stopped every so often for me to verifiy it then the ballot stayed locked in the machine |
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| 18:32.41 | Arrowmaster | Dagmar: yeah i had a cheat sheet too, none of the judges had their political parties listed so i had a sheet of them all |
| 18:33.54 | Semlar | florida's tax collector is dead so i'm assuming no taxes |
| 18:34.18 | Dagmar | Ther'es no judges on the TN ballot. That's a separate election for us, apparently. |
| 18:34.22 | TC-work | death and taxes... /cackle |
| 18:34.49 | Dagmar | I had my hands full looking up the voting histories of a dozen odd representatives as it is |
| 18:35.49 | Arrowmaster | Dagmar: i just went with the lesser of two evils approach even though i dislike it |
| 18:36.03 | Dagmar | That's pretty much the case here. |
| 18:36.28 | Arrowmaster | ohio is not a state that independants have much of a chance in so i didnt even bother with any of them |
| 18:36.29 | Dagmar | I figure if the opposition to Corker was into throwing babies into pits filled with rabid dogs, I'd have heard something about it in the press. |
| 18:36.55 | Dagmar | As it stands, his biggest merit is "He's not the guy who voted against the Franken amendment" |
| 18:37.44 | Dagmar | Clayton also doesn't appear to have a history of only voting with his party |
| 18:38.04 | Dagmar | One of the seats for representative, I'm not even touching because of that. |
| 18:38.20 | Dagmar | Letting someone that wasn't necessarily elected for it make all the decisions is another disqualifier. |
| 18:38.24 | karl_w_w | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjrthOPLAKM |
| 18:40.06 | Arrowmaster | Dagmar: we had a repub running for senate that as treasure has a 0% attendance rate |
| 18:41.42 | Dagmar | Yeah that sort of took out two representatives for me |
| 18:42.16 | Dagmar | I have to admit it's at least a lot faster to select who to vote for when they go so far out of their way to clearly fail at doing their jobs. |
| 18:42.29 | Dagmar | I'd be in hell if they were all dedicated but misguided politicians. |
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| 18:49.32 | TC-work | "am now taking a ‘Python for Political Scientists’ class" Please tell me that is not going to spread. |
| 18:51.59 | Ackis | why is blizzards realm status saying servers are up when they aren't? :'( |
| 18:52.08 | Ackis | http://i.imgur.com/TemUN.jpg <-- funny and sfw |
| 18:54.11 | Ressy | Ackis: Its a known bug |
| 18:54.16 | Ressy | I told them about it about 3 hrs ago |
| 18:54.22 | Ressy | along with another. |
| 18:54.25 | Ressy | escalated internally. |
| 18:54.50 | Ackis | Ressy: tell them they need to whip the hamster! |
| 18:55.20 | Ressy | lol |
| 18:55.48 | Ackis | also it was strange, a lot of realms went offline except for a few this morning |
| 18:55.53 | TC-work | Be nice to the hamster or Minsc will hurt you |
| 18:55.58 | Ressy | coughs |
| 18:56.06 | Ressy | Blizzard didn't know that the Phoenix datacentre was still up. |
| 18:56.10 | Vlad| | will sub(1,1) get first character regardless of locale? i.e. it works with korean words too? |
| 18:56.37 | Ackis | Ressy: that's kind of funny |
| 18:56.43 | haste | Vlad|: no |
| 18:56.46 | Vlad| | :< |
| 18:56.48 | haste | Vlad|: it will only fetch the first byte |
| 18:57.13 | Fisker | hey haste |
| 18:57.15 | Fisker | valve is racist |
| 18:57.17 | Fisker | Fixed some toast notifications not appearing on startup due to a race condition if you start in Big Picture |
| 18:57.17 | haste | hey Fisker |
| 18:57.33 | Vlad| | I assume it's max 2 bytes to make up a character on those special locales |
| 18:57.40 | Vlad| | so I can check if sub(1,1) is empty or not |
| 18:57.47 | haste | it depends on the character |
| 18:57.53 | Vlad| | hmm |
| 18:58.02 | Vlad| | trying to use a global value and get the first character |
| 18:58.12 | Vlad| | would format("%c", "string") return the first letter? |
| 18:58.25 | Vlad| | !lua print(format("%c", "æøå")) |
| 18:58.25 | batbot | Vlad|: @ [string "function format(msg, ...) print (msg % arg)..."]:1: attempt to perform arithmetic on local 'msg' (a string value) |
| 18:58.43 | Vlad| | hmm nope |
| 19:00.06 | Fisker | do you understand haste ? |
| 19:00.14 | haste | yes Fisker |
| 19:00.21 | Fisker | :) |
| 19:00.28 | Fisker | you are not as norwegian as i thought |
| 19:00.35 | Vlad| | maybe one could string.split(".", "str", 2) and the first returned would be the first letter in the string? |
| 19:00.57 | Vlad| | split used regex or am I mistaken? |
| 19:01.55 | haste | there is a lua pattern you can use to match unicode characters on the lua wiki |
| 19:02.00 | haste | it might be what you want |
| 19:02.20 | Vlad| | I take it split isn't unicode friendly? |
| 19:02.23 | haste | http://lua-users.org/wiki/LuaUnicode |
| 19:02.28 | haste | I doubt it is |
| 19:03.46 | Vlad| | !lua string.match("ÆØÅ", "([%z\1-\127\194-\244][\128-\191]*)") |
| 19:03.46 | batbot | Vlad|: > Æ |
| 19:03.50 | Vlad| | ^^ |
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| 19:04.21 | haste | yes it works :) |
| 19:05.05 | haste | man Fisker, why don't I have nexus 4 already? |
| 19:05.19 | Fisker | why don't i? |
| 19:05.29 | haste | probably same reason I don't! |
| 19:05.38 | alestane | So, Visual Studio newb. I'm supposed to compile a project that depends on an external library. The library has directions for installing it into Visual Studio, but the directions seem to be for an older version of VS. Anyone have any advice? (Other than "shoot yourself now" or "Don't use VS") |
| 19:05.40 | Fisker | i guess |
| 19:05.41 | nevcairiel | you're both from scandinavia? |
| 19:05.44 | haste | y |
| 19:05.51 | Fisker | VS is amazing alestane |
| 19:05.52 | Fisker | bam |
| 19:06.00 | haste | and start prices are ~700 USD atm :V |
| 19:06.15 | Ressy | "#WoW Maintenance has been extended by 1 hour. We'll provide additional updates as they become available to us. " |
| 19:06.16 | Fisker | did you try google it alestane ? |
| 19:06.18 | haste | and I don't even know if that's the 8G or 16G version |
| 19:06.24 | nevcairiel | alestane: its really not all that hard to link to some external library |
| 19:06.31 | Fisker | http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/wkze6zky.aspx |
| 19:06.33 | Fisker | try some of that shit |
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| 19:07.08 | nevcairiel | i assume the lib comes with the usual .lib file, and a bunch of headers? |
| 19:07.13 | haste | and spotify is only playing shit |
| 19:07.20 | nevcairiel | easiest way is just to add thsoe to the library/include path in the global VS config |
| 19:07.21 | Fisker | it's ok haste |
| 19:07.23 | alestane | A .lib, a .h and a .dll |
| 19:07.26 | Fisker | we got someone to complain to now |
| 19:07.33 | haste | indeed |
| 19:07.38 | Fisker | we can just highlight jnwhiteh and complain immensely |
| 19:07.41 | haste | I'm going to listen to some wing |
| 19:07.48 | alestane | Does it make sense to install it right into VS, or should I just link the project I'm compiling to it? |
| 19:07.55 | haste | it will make everything else sound amazing |
| 19:08.20 | nevcairiel | just add it to the project |
| 19:08.29 | alestane | I'll give that a shot |
| 19:08.39 | nevcairiel | every project has a section called VC++ Directories, just add the include and lib path there |
| 19:08.54 | nevcairiel | as well as the binary path for the dll |
| 19:09.05 | nevcairiel | can be the same path, still need to add it to all three :P |
| 19:09.34 | nevcairiel | and in the linker section under input add the lib file into the list in "Additional Dependencies" |
| 19:09.37 | nevcairiel | and you should be done |
| 19:09.52 | nevcairiel | dont forget to copy the dll into your target dir, or running your tool wont find it |
| 19:10.08 | nevcairiel | (or any other global dir in PATH where it would find it= |
| 19:10.40 | haste | Wing so good Fisker ! |
| 19:10.54 | Fisker | http://i.imgur.com/dM5Pz.png |
| 19:11.00 | haste | someone in the office will probably kill me for this :-D |
| 19:11.24 | haste | this better not be your screenshot Fisker ! |
| 19:11.29 | nevcairiel | youre still in the office at 8pm? |
| 19:11.41 | haste | yes :( |
| 19:11.51 | nevcairiel | and there is still other people that could kill you? |
| 19:11.59 | haste | yep :( |
| 19:12.35 | haste | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRhlysO2fhk |
| 19:12.39 | haste | and this is on spotify :D |
| 19:15.15 | Adys | hey |
| 19:15.17 | Adys | Fisker |
| 19:15.18 | Adys | http://media.steampowered.com/client/installer/steam.deb |
| 19:16.20 | nevcairiel | haste: thats horrible |
| 19:17.25 | alestane | Well, the solution file contains about 30 projects. I'm guessing that more than one of them probably depend on this library. |
| 19:17.25 | Fisker | old Adys |
| 19:17.27 | haste | hey Adys, awesome |
| 19:17.28 | Fisker | and i fucking lol'd |
| 19:18.01 | nevcairiel | alestane: this is why one usually has a common properties sheet thats shared by all projects where one configures such things :D |
| 19:18.34 | nevcairiel | you could configure it in your user property sheet, at least the directories |
| 19:18.37 | alestane | Maybe they do. It's not my project, I just downloaded it and now I get to make it work. |
| 19:19.05 | alestane | I suspect that if I can identify the right directory, this won't take much longer. |
| 19:19.27 | nevcairiel | if all you want to do is build it fast, you can just dump the files in directories already known to the project |
| 19:19.33 | nevcairiel | or global VS directories |
| 19:21.12 | Adys | haste: I'm having a little boner |
| 19:21.17 | Adys | their .desktop file is perfect and all |
| 19:21.35 | haste | I'm tempted to go to my workstation and try it there |
| 19:21.39 | haste | as it runs ubuntu :P |
| 19:21.53 | Adys | oh hell no |
| 19:21.56 | Adys | im making it work on arch |
| 19:22.17 | haste | I'll give it a whirl for exherbo when I get home |
| 19:22.46 | Adys | haha |
| 19:22.48 | Adys | they have a manpage! |
| 19:22.56 | haste | awesome |
| 19:23.00 | alestane | nevcairiel, I suspect that the instructions were supposed to get the files into global VS directories. |
| 19:23.22 | nevcairiel | how old of a version of VS were they for? |
| 19:23.41 | alestane | 6, I think. |
| 19:23.48 | nevcairiel | ouch |
| 19:23.52 | alestane | So yeah. |
| 19:23.55 | nevcairiel | thats been a while |
| 19:24.11 | alestane | This is why I'm asking if someone can point me at a suitable current location. |
| 19:24.37 | alestane | Google turned up some guidelines on installing some package manager, that also seemed to be a couple years out of date. |
| 19:25.16 | Vlad| | there is a problem with ([%z\1-\127\194-\244][\128-\191]) |
| 19:25.31 | Ackis | http://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/12q7qr/if_you_could_give_one_piece_of_advice_to_all_wow/ |
| 19:25.36 | Vlad| | it won't work for ascii but it will work for chars with more bytes :P lol |
| 19:25.39 | nevcairiel | for 2010/2012 (and probably also 2008), just dump your files in C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Visual Studio 10.0\VC\{lib|include} |
| 19:25.48 | nevcairiel | change the 10.0 as appropriate |
| 19:25.57 | nevcairiel | 10.0 is 2010 =p |
| 19:26.20 | alestane | I think that's what I needed to know, nevcairiel, thanks. |
| 19:26.31 | nevcairiel | (I'm also readily assuming we are talking C/C++ and not crazy .net shit) |
| 19:26.42 | alestane | http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151339967199954 Is there a Geek Party yet? |
| 19:27.09 | Adys | haste: http://i.imgur.com/gi46T.png |
| 19:27.11 | Adys | this is happening. |
| 19:27.20 | haste | Vlad|: you need to use * |
| 19:27.38 | haste | Vlad|: ([%z\1-\127\194-\244][\128-\191]*) |
| 19:27.41 | Vlad| | hmm |
| 19:27.45 | Vlad| | ok, sorry :p lol |
| 19:27.51 | haste | nice Adys |
| 19:28.18 | Fisker | pls |
| 19:28.21 | Fisker | we're all past that |
| 19:29.01 | Adys | Fisker: this is on arch, give me a break :P |
| 19:30.38 | Vlad| | haste any ideas how I could get the len of such strings? |
| 19:30.56 | haste | Vlad|: same page as you got the pattern :) |
| 19:31.00 | Vlad| | oh |
| 19:31.02 | Fisker | pls Adys |
| 19:31.07 | Fisker | you need an invite anyways |
| 19:31.11 | Fisker | unless this bypassed it |
| 19:31.18 | Vlad| | ah yes |
| 19:31.20 | haste | Vlad|: but I think WoW has a utf8 len function actually |
| 19:31.37 | Vlad| | not by default |
| 19:31.42 | Vlad| | at least not in my string table |
| 19:32.10 | haste | strlenutf8 |
| 19:32.39 | Vlad| | hmm |
| 19:32.47 | Vlad| | curious, why isn't under string table too? :P |
| 19:33.37 | haste | Blizzard knows |
| 19:34.16 | Fisker | btw Adys did you get invited? |
| 19:34.32 | Adys | no, they're not inviting non-buntu right now |
| 19:34.52 | Fisker | wanna try it out anyway? |
| 19:35.52 | Fisker | oh ok |
| 19:36.44 | Fisker | plays steam linux by himself |
| 19:37.32 | haste | Y U SO INVITED?! |
| 19:38.14 | Adys | Fisker: why, they give invites to users? |
| 19:39.12 | Fisker | no |
| 19:39.26 | Fisker | but the check can be bypassed |
| 19:39.32 | Fisker | took me 5 seconds |
| 19:39.33 | Fisker | or so |
| 19:39.35 | haste | hacker |
| 19:39.41 | Fisker | ELITE HACKER mr. haste |
| 19:39.43 | Ackis | http://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/12q7qr/if_you_could_give_one_piece_of_advice_to_all_wow/c6xdn37 <-- upvotes pls |
| 19:41.13 | Fisker | is there an equivalent of "I want to turn this fullscreen window into a window"-command like alt+enter in linnix? |
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| 19:42.51 | Fisker | want to know how Adys? |
| 19:43.09 | Adys | hm? |
| 19:43.13 | Adys | uh, sure i guess |
| 19:45.46 | haste | and thus valve assassinated Fisker. |
| 19:46.17 | Adys | someone's saying it's 32-bit |
| 19:46.19 | Adys | tell me it aint so |
| 19:46.22 | haste | it is |
| 19:46.22 | Fisker | idk |
| 19:46.28 | Adys | fucking hell who does that |
| 19:46.28 | Fisker | why should it be 64-bit? |
| 19:46.30 | Fisker | btw Adys |
| 19:46.38 | Fisker | idk how it'll work for you in archlinux |
| 19:46.40 | Fisker | but in ubuntu |
| 19:46.46 | haste | you could always setup a 32-bit ubuntu chroot Adys :) |
| 19:46.51 | Fisker | instead of just launching steam you rightclick on the shortcut and open "Friends" |
| 19:46.55 | Fisker | then it doesn't say you're not in the beta |
| 19:47.06 | nevcairiel | your linux doesnt come with multilib? what did you setup for a crappy system? :p |
| 19:47.18 | Adys | [Desktop Action Friends] |
| 19:47.18 | Adys | Name=Friends |
| 19:47.18 | Adys | Exec=steam steam://open/friends |
| 19:47.23 | Adys | nevcairiel: it does |
| 19:47.31 | Adys | but i have to install lib32-google-breakpad |
| 19:48.02 | Adys | and it just bothers me thinking about 32-bit software. |
| 19:48.13 | Fisker | http://i.imgur.com/zWBou.png |
| 19:48.23 | nevcairiel | think about 16 bit for an hour, 32 wont seem that bad then |
| 19:48.54 | jnwhiteh | stolenlegacy: po-po-po-posting-spree =) |
| 19:49.07 | stolenlegacy | yeah |
| 19:49.16 | stolenlegacy | sorry for being away for so long |
| 19:50.03 | jnwhiteh | no worries =) |
| 19:50.12 | jnwhiteh | just nice to have someone else posting :P |
| 19:50.18 | jnwhiteh | work/thesis don't make for much free time |
| 19:50.50 | jnwhiteh | <PROTECTED> |
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| 19:52.29 | nevcairiel | so thats you? |
| 19:52.53 | Unkle | now jnwhiteh, why would you go and do a thing like that? |
| 19:53.32 | nevcairiel | can we make that "has to pay" instead of "can pay"? :d |
| 19:57.03 | alestane | "I do have a cause, as it turns out; it is, 'obscenity.' |
| 19:57.07 | alestane | "...I'm for it." |
| 19:57.49 | Unkle | alestane sounds familiar, but I can't place it. |
| 19:58.45 | alestane | That was the Year that Was. |
| 20:00.51 | Unkle | Oh right. |
| 20:01.47 | alestane | "As the judge remarked the day that he acquitted my aunt Hortence, to be smut, it must be utterly without redeeming social importance." |
| 20:02.13 | Lopeppeppy | Smut has redeeming values, you know. |
| 20:02.39 | alestane | steals Lopeppeppy's pants. |
| 20:02.42 | alestane | ...oh, wait. |
| 20:02.51 | Kraps | " Hopefully, we'll have it up sooner than later. Just a reminder though, upset or not, it's not OK to swear on the forums. Please also keep politics off of the forums unless it's about Azerothian leaders and who should be the next Warchief. " |
| 20:10.41 | Mr_Rabies | nice of blizzard to let people free of their grip long enough to go vote |
| 20:14.39 | alestane | "Petticoat rule"? |
| 20:16.11 | Dark_Elf | bah another 2 hours |
| 20:16.48 | Dark_Elf | shame they didnt deploy a patch, much time we had could of downloaded it |
| 20:20.05 | foxlit | "could of" |
| 20:20.36 | foxlit | is never correct; it's "could have." |
| 20:21.40 | Fisker | "could of" <linebreak>is never correct; it's "could have." is never correct; it's "'could of' is never correct; it's 'could have.'" |
| 20:22.34 | foxlit | it's a poem, Fisker. |
| 20:22.47 | cogwheel | I could of three choices choose one |
| 20:23.03 | Fisker | pls cogwheel |
| 20:23.04 | foxlit | that's missing a comma. |
| 20:23.09 | cogwheel | comma schmomma |
| 20:23.15 | cogwheel | no one uses those! |
| 20:23.16 | cogwheel | >< |
| 20:23.22 | foxlit | or two. |
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| 20:36.27 | Vlad| | hmm, having some issues with "%s dealt %d damage to %s %s%s." |
| 20:37.05 | Vlad| | shouldn't "(.+) dealt (%d+) damage to (.+) (.+)(.-)" always make sure that the 4th returned param is the name? the last %s can be empty. |
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| 20:39.10 | Dagmar | No. |
| 20:39.14 | jnwhiteh | Vlad|: no .+ is greedy |
| 20:39.18 | jnwhiteh | it takes everything |
| 20:39.20 | Dagmar | You're still taking a blindly dumb approach to this. |
| 20:39.38 | Vlad| | -_- |
| 20:39.41 | Dagmar | The tail end of that will never behave properly, man. |
| 20:40.01 | Dagmar | You have two match expressions, both which match the _exact same things_ with nothing separating them |
| 20:40.25 | Dagmar | So... If you fed those last two things the string "123456789" what do you think it would do? |
| 20:40.41 | Dagmar | "." matches any character, right? |
| 20:41.09 | Dagmar | Your first (.+) would eat everything with no way of knowing when to stop. |
| 20:41.25 | Dagmar | (.+)(.+) would be equally crazy. |
| 20:41.52 | Dagmar | They certainly won't split the string in half and share. |
| 20:43.04 | Dagmar | Let's also be clear... being that the magic character '.' matches EVERYTHING, it's probably not what you want for most of this. |
| 20:43.14 | Mr_Rabies | my realm appears to be up |
| 20:43.19 | Mr_Rabies | inb4 world server is down |
| 20:43.30 | Arrowmaster | well ive still got it, first multiplayer game of halo4 and i DMR raped the other team with lots of headshots |
| 20:43.44 | Dagmar | You have %s available to match whitespace... and %S to match things which are not whitespace. |
| 20:43.57 | Arrowmaster | and now i must leave for the 3rd time today |
| 20:44.19 | Dagmar | You might strongly wish to consider abandoning all use of '.' |
| 20:47.50 | nebula169 | . traumatized Dagmar as a child |
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| 20:48.05 | Dagmar | Well, he should have seen that (.+) and (.-) don't make any sense next to each other |
| 20:48.17 | Dagmar | . is basically blinding him |
| 20:50.09 | Dagmar | I'm pretty sure "(%S+)%s-(%S-)" would serve the same purpose, and stand a chance at stopping the first (%S+) from eating past a bit of whitespace separating the final args |
| 20:51.06 | Kraps | how is it playing firefly if i wanted once upon a time |
| 20:51.18 | Dagmar | It would amount to (many-things-which-are-not-spaces)few-as-possible-spaces(few-as-possible-things-which-are-not-spaces) |
| 20:51.59 | Dagmar | of course if "fel fire" can be an argument in there, all hell breaks loose. |
| 20:52.16 | Semlar | vlad what are you trying to match |
| 20:52.18 | Kraps | argh now i'm compelled to watch firefly |
| 20:52.35 | Vlad| | just parsing pet battle messages :P |
| 20:52.37 | Dagmar | plays a space guitar. |
| 20:53.05 | Kraps | i think this is shindig |
| 20:53.07 | Semlar | do you have an example of a string and what you want out of it |
| 20:53.23 | TC-work | i want a rope out of it |
| 20:53.24 | Vlad| | atm fixed this particular problem by using something other than .- or .+ :p |
| 20:53.32 | Lopeppeppy | Kraps, I swear by my pretty floral bonnet I will end you. |
| 20:53.42 | Kraps | :(((( |
| 20:53.57 | Dagmar | Frankly shit like that is just easier with regexp |
| 20:54.18 | Semlar | i don't think this not being regex is going to make any difference |
| 20:54.57 | Kraps | no wait this is where river cuts jayne |
| 20:55.05 | Dagmar | It would let you match from the end of the line backwards. |
| 20:56.02 | Dagmar | ...which makes it easier to create an "if we got here I have really fucked up" match case. |
| 20:56.06 | Dagmar | ;) |
| 20:57.13 | Kraps | hospital theft is the best |
| 20:58.24 | Dagmar | Vlad|: If you had so much as a pastebin just containing a bunch of different actual messages, you'd probably find a lot more people able to just rattle off what would work and what won't and why |
| 20:58.45 | Dagmar | Vlad|: Pattern matching code basically involves thinking like the pattern matcher, or meeting a lot of failure. |
| 20:58.54 | karl_w_w | you can't steal a hospital silly, they are much too large |
| 20:59.02 | Vlad| | Dagmar: thanks, it's going well so far :P |
| 21:00.03 | Dagmar | I'm going to stab this fucking VM in it's face. |
| 21:00.20 | Semlar | i'm going to stab vlad in his face |
| 21:00.46 | Semlar | vlad i demand you tell me what pattern you're using |
| 21:00.49 | Dagmar | For whatever reason this VM I just built has decided to do something utterly bizarre and stick all of it's non /boot partitions on the second disk |
| 21:01.48 | Dagmar | I'm going to have to reimage the damn thing |
| 21:02.17 | Dagmar | ...because _someone_ decided the standard would be to put LVM volumes inside of partitions. This is why that's bad. |
| 21:04.02 | Semlar | how do you set a metatable for a metatable |
| 21:04.40 | alestane | Same way you set one for any other table. |
| 21:06.04 | Kraps | patients were cynical |
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| 21:07.47 | Semlar | so i could do like setmetatable({}, setmetatable(MapMetaTable, getmetatable(CreateFrame('frame')))) |
| 21:09.37 | alestane | I don't know if that would do esactly what you want. |
| 21:09.48 | karl_w_w | what's this about a voting machine changing an obama vote into a romney one? |
| 21:10.27 | Semlar | yeah it didn't work, i want it to fall back on the frame's metatable if it can't find the method in my metatable |
| 21:10.28 | alestane | If want you want is chained lookup, then you have to set the metatable of the table supplied as the __index in the metatable. |
| 21:10.47 | Kraps | karl_w_w, the simpsons isnt real life |
| 21:10.55 | mikma | http://www.red-dot.sg/dconcept/portfolio/view.php?rid=133 |
| 21:11.22 | alestane | That would be setmetatable({}, {__index=setmetatable(MapMetaTable, getmetatable(someknownframe))}) |
| 21:11.50 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
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| 21:12.37 | alestane | Although I'd say that you'd be better off just setting the metatable of MapMetaTable once when you create it, and then just saying setmetatable({}, {__index=MapMetaTable}) |
| 21:14.14 | Semlar | i'm not sure this is even going to work |
| 21:14.36 | TC-work | foxlit: boredom? |
| 21:15.33 | foxlit | TC-work: it's probably too inaccurate to pretend that it's suffixed with ": A practical guide"? |
| 21:17.12 | Semlar | i don't even know how to put this |
| 21:17.52 | Semlar | alestane: the frame i want to use the methods from is going to be created as a child of the table i'm using in setmetatable |
| 21:18.20 | karl_w_w | are you sure Kraps? http://www.slate.com/blogs/future_tense/2012/11/06/pennsylvania_voting_machine_glitch_selects_romney_when_voter_touches_obama.html |
| 21:18.45 | Semlar | so frame = CreateFrame(); map = setmetatable({}, MapMetaTable); map.frame = frame |
| 21:18.56 | Fisker | ah |
| 21:18.59 | Fisker | back on good old windows |
| 21:19.09 | Semlar | i want it so if i call map:GetName() or something it uses map.frame:GetName() |
| 21:19.28 | Kraps | looks like the touchscreen is calibrated wrong |
| 21:22.19 | Mr_Rabies | the one in our county used a really cheap touchscreen |
| 21:22.33 | Mr_Rabies | honestly they should just have physical buttons like an ATM, i think |
| 21:22.48 | Mr_Rabies | digitizers are too expensive to do right, and too easy to get cheap crappy ones |
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| 21:27.12 | Mr_Rabies | and really easy to break calibration on |
| 21:27.23 | Mr_Rabies | press hard enough in a spot and you'll probably break something |
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| 21:32.03 | karl_w_w | or you could just use paper like sensible people :P |
| 21:32.58 | nevcairiel | You should just not trust some company with their own interest to build a truely neutral voting machine |
| 21:33.10 | nevcairiel | we use paper just fine |
| 21:33.14 | nevcairiel | good old trusty paper |
| 21:35.23 | nevcairiel | the number of such problems alone should already tell anyone with half a brain that those machines are bad |
| 21:35.38 | nevcairiel | but i guess thats the problem, too many people with less then that in their head in the US, eh :P |
| 21:38.37 | foxlit | still no Heart of Fear in LFR? |
| 21:38.39 | Fisker | pls nevcairiel |
| 21:38.46 | Fisker | what with paper that come pre-printed with hidden ink? |
| 21:38.57 | nebula169 | foxlit: i can queue for it "The Dread Approach" |
| 21:39.18 | nevcairiel | i should go run that one of these days |
| 21:39.22 | nevcairiel | just to have seen it :p |
| 21:39.31 | Kalroth | paper is easy to falsify, its no better than a voting machine |
| 21:40.17 | foxlit | I think the argument is that it's actually hard to falsify it and not get noticed while doing that |
| 21:40.46 | foxlit | nebula169: oops. It's not wednesday; my bad :) |
| 21:41.00 | nevcairiel | easy to create fake paper sure, its just a template where someone made an x, not even signed or anything |
| 21:41.03 | Kalroth | oh, who's making that argument? the people not getting caught? |
| 21:41.05 | nebula169 | silly eu |
| 21:41.12 | nevcairiel | but thats why the elections are being watched |
| 21:41.27 | foxlit | Kalroth: the people advocating the use of paper ballots, presumably. |
| 21:41.35 | nevcairiel | what happens on the inside of a voting machine... you cant see |
| 21:42.10 | Kalroth | and the process of opening a voting box is any better? |
| 21:42.22 | nevcairiel | i dont know how your country does it =p |
| 21:42.51 | Kalroth | it is possible to make software that is clear, just dont hire a single company to make an obfuscated solution |
| 21:43.13 | mikma | http://www.break.com/index/skater-rides-wrong-side-of-skateboard-down-stairs-2385161 |
| 21:44.22 | nevcairiel | the problem is those devices are made by companies that want to make money with it :P |
| 21:45.47 | nevcairiel | we have elections next year, i wonder if they'll try again with the machines |
| 21:46.32 | Kalroth | so use more than one company for it |
| 21:47.52 | nevcairiel | at least in germany the voting machines were deemed against our consitution in the last attempts to introduce them, because they take the transparency out of the counting of the votes |
| 21:49.14 | nevcairiel | every person has the right to be present on the counting of the votes, and the process has to be transparent |
| 21:49.51 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: I don't think they can return, can they? |
| 21:49.58 | nevcairiel | probably not |
| 21:50.08 | nevcairiel | the bundesverfassungsgericht made that rather clear, i guess |
| 21:51.02 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wahlger%C3%A4t#Das_Bundesverfassungsgericht_in_Sachen_.E2.80.9EWahlcomputer.E2.80.9C_.282009.29 |
| 21:51.05 | Gnarfoz | they could |
| 21:51.18 | Xuerian1 | starts planning to move to BC. |
| 21:51.21 | Xuerian1 | dafuq. |
| 21:51.33 | Gnarfoz | burning crusade? that's like, over, man |
| 21:51.41 | Xuerian | IT'S NEVER OVER |
| 21:51.47 | Xuerian | SEE YOU AT THE END OF ATTUNEMENT BITCHES |
| 21:52.10 | Gnarfoz | uses Medallion of Karabor |
| 21:52.17 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: the requirements are unrealistic, doubtful they would bother |
| 21:52.48 | nevcairiel | makign the process transparent for people without IT knowledge? yeah right :p |
| 21:53.01 | Gnarfoz | yeah |
| 21:53.24 | nevcairiel | i never understood the need for such devices |
| 21:53.35 | nevcairiel | its not like they make voting that much faster |
| 21:53.40 | nevcairiel | counting maybe, sure |
| 21:53.53 | Gnarfoz | not without giving up certain... assurances, though |
| 21:54.14 | Gnarfoz | or, well (ORWELL, RIGHT), if they did it right, it could work ;P |
| 21:54.24 | foxlit | nevcairiel: how many votes are discarded due to unreadable/invalid use of the paper ballots? |
| 21:54.34 | Gnarfoz | there's official numbers on that, I'm certain |
| 21:54.40 | nevcairiel | you need to make a X somewhere |
| 21:54.43 | nevcairiel | how hard can it be |
| 21:54.52 | Gnarfoz | and since our ballots are not 5 pages long idiocies, the quota is probably not that high |
| 21:54.53 | nevcairiel | also, some people vote invalid as a democratic tool |
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| 21:55.29 | Gnarfoz | without knowing it doesn't actually do anything except give someone they don't like more power |
| 21:56.19 | nevcairiel | well if none of the candidates is to your liking, what you gonna do |
| 21:56.26 | nevcairiel | not voting isnt any better |
| 21:56.47 | Gnarfoz | no, if you really can't find one that you agree enough with to vote for |
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| 21:56.50 | foxlit | You contribute less entropy to the world by not voting :P |
| 21:56.54 | Gnarfoz | guess what? PUT YOURSELF ON THE BALLOT |
| 21:56.55 | Gnarfoz | :P |
| 21:56.58 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 21:57.12 | Gnarfoz | that's the only useful thing to do |
| 21:57.44 | nevcairiel | just vote for something that never shows up in any results anyway, wondering how they manage to get onto the ballot every time again |
| 21:58.47 | foxlit | write-in Darth Vader, problem solved? |
| 21:58.58 | Gnarfoz | no write-in's |
| 21:59.01 | nevcairiel | i bet they consider that invalid :p |
| 21:59.01 | Gnarfoz | -' |
| 21:59.11 | Unkle | http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/10/19/hello-kitty-is-running-for-president.html |
| 21:59.15 | Gnarfoz | well, no write-ins on bundestags wahl, for that matter |
| 21:59.20 | foxlit | vandalize someone else's name with the same pencil you use for the X? |
| 21:59.38 | Gnarfoz | I think we do that for mayorships, or something? nevcairiel? |
| 21:59.43 | foxlit | (does that still count as a vote for them?) |
| 21:59.51 | nevcairiel | foxlit: no, invalid |
| 22:00.14 | Gnarfoz | I think everything that's not an X in one of the appropiate spots on the paper results in an invalid ballot |
| 22:00.17 | Vlad| | curse packager dead? |
| 22:00.44 | Vlad| | ah there we go :D |
| 22:03.20 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: not sure about that, the exact laws for the local elections are also dependent on where you are |
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| 22:03.25 | Gnarfoz | yeah |
| 22:03.52 | Gnarfoz | Auch bei Wahlen zum Kongress der Philippinen, in Schweden und bei Kommunalwahlen in Deutschland, bei denen keine Kandidaten bereitstehen, werden teilweise „leere Stimmzettel“ ohne vorgegebene Auswahlmöglichkeiten verwendet. |
| 22:04.03 | Gnarfoz | hmhm |
| 22:04.13 | nevcairiel | no candidates at all....? :p |
| 22:04.25 | Gnarfoz | apparently |
| 22:04.27 | nevcairiel | that sounds like a mess |
| 22:04.31 | nevcairiel | how does anyone win? |
| 22:04.44 | Gnarfoz | someone's bound to get more than 1 vote? |
| 22:04.44 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 22:04.48 | nevcairiel | hehe |
| 22:05.21 | nevcairiel | oh well sleepy time |
| 22:05.39 | Gnarfoz | http://www.bundestag.de/service/glossar/U/ung_stimmzettel.html |
| 22:06.06 | Gnarfoz | pretty clear. since "Kennzeichnung" can mean anything, that means nothing besides X is allowed |
| 22:06.09 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 22:06.14 | nevcairiel | pretty much |
| 22:06.41 | nevcairiel | cant do anything to mark your ballot, goes against anonymity |
| 22:06.44 | nevcairiel | anyway, zzz |
| 22:06.46 | Gnarfoz | idd |
| 22:06.49 | Gnarfoz | nn |
| 22:07.29 | many | no |
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| 22:27.22 | g0urra | My Little Romney http://www.svenskbladet.se/uploaded_images/My%20Little%20Romneyx.jpg |
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| 22:48.22 | bleeter | VOTE EARLY VOTE OFTEN |
| 22:57.05 | Unkle | ~emulate bleeter |
| 22:57.05 | purl | ACTION rant RANT rant waaa MOAR COFFEE <sub>GOOD IDEA</sub>rant waa MOAR COFFEE rant rant MOAR MOAR <blink><h1>terribad idea</h1></blink> rant |
| 23:00.57 | TC-work | neither early nor often were on the ballot bleeter |
| 23:10.02 | Fisker | just have to lol |
| 23:10.06 | Fisker | But when Apple's lawyers wrote in a filing last week that they would reject her guidance if the rate ended up being higher than $1 USD per iPhone, she grew irate at the Cupertino company's apparent arrogance. |
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| 23:28.54 | Gnarfoz | Fisker: she grew iRate? |
| 23:29.20 | Vlad| | purl is back? |
| 23:29.28 | Vlad| | ~highfive |
| 23:43.04 | Esamynn|work | Vlad|: denied |
| 23:43.17 | Vlad| | :( |
| 23:43.19 | TC-work | ~ping |
| 23:43.20 | purl | ~pong |
| 23:43.27 | TC-work | ~botsnack |
| 23:43.27 | purl | TC-work: :) |
| 23:43.31 | Esamynn|work | ~poke TC-work |
| 23:43.32 | purl | ACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind TC-work, pokes TC-work repeatedly, hilarity ensues. |
| 23:43.42 | TC-work | ~dodge Esamynn|work |
| 23:43.42 | purl | at the last second tc-work dodges out of the way of Esamynn|work's malicious and unprovoked attack. |
| 23:44.11 | Esamynn|work | malicious? perhaps... unprovoked? I don't think so |
