| 00:00.50 | Adys | whats a good filesystem for an external hard drive that would be readable by both osx and windows, and writable by linux? |
| 00:02.14 | Mr_Rabies | the dewey decimal system |
| 00:06.19 | nebula169 | fat16 |
| 00:07.03 | Semlar | why not fat32 |
| 00:09.45 | Semlar | unless you need to support files over 4gb |
| 00:10.43 | Adys | I need to support files of 50 gigabytes |
| 00:10.45 | Adys | so yes |
| 00:10.54 | Adys | this is a movie drive |
| 00:11.11 | Semlar | i think OSX can READ ntfs |
| 00:11.39 | Semlar | not sure if that's the best option though |
| 00:12.13 | Adys | Kaelten: I'm getting "this page has a redirect loop" on http://www.curse.com/addons/wow/gnomishvendorshrinker |
| 00:12.23 | Adys | Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64) AppleWebKit/537.4 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/22.0.1229.94 Safari/537.4 |
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| 00:44.18 | Primer | Anyone here know Auctioneer well? How the HELL do you buy something from the search tab? |
| 00:44.46 | TC-Work | I think it has it's own channel |
| 00:44.53 | TC-Work | #norganna or something |
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| 00:58.03 | Adys | Dagmar: any idea how i can prevent my bios from scanning every usb drive on boot? |
| 00:58.19 | Adys | its hanging on the bios screen for like 20 seconds because they all have to start spinning up one after the other |
| 00:58.27 | Adys | (external hds) |
| 01:01.37 | kd3 | tell it to not use usb drives as possible boot targets? |
| 01:01.49 | Adys | i dont think thats what it does |
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| 01:17.57 | Torhal | Adys: Just on that page? |
| 01:18.06 | Adys | Torhal: yes, its gone now tho |
| 01:18.15 | Torhal | Because there's a weird time issue with cookies - make sure you're time is correct |
| 01:18.16 | Torhal | Ok. |
| 01:18.22 | Torhal | s/you're/your/ |
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| 01:43.19 | Mr_Rabies | if any addon developers are itching to make an addon but can't think of any ideas, something to help feral druids manage offhealing with dream of cenarius would own |
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| 02:17.53 | Semlar | would SetScript taint a frame? |
| 02:22.52 | Semlar | like SetScript("OnEvent", nil) |
| 02:23.11 | Semlar | versus unregistering events |
| 02:36.07 | starlon | What's an addon I can search through items with? |
| 02:36.12 | starlon | I used to have one long time ago. |
| 02:38.51 | Dark_Elf | u mean the itemdb? |
| 02:39.14 | starlon | yes |
| 02:39.39 | starlon | searching itemdb got it. thanks |
| 02:41.48 | starlon | The one I found is broken. :/ Elkano's Itemdb |
| 02:46.47 | starlon | The beta works. |
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| 02:59.55 | Thunder_Child | Man i am loving this weather so much right now |
| 03:04.06 | kd3 | damn it, where's the [Teleport: Ruins of Dalaran] book? |
| 03:04.11 | kd3 | grrs at scarlet halls |
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| 03:21.24 | Shirik | I demand an "I voted" sticker |
| 03:21.33 | Shirik | It is unacceptable that these are impossible to acquire in Oregon |
| 03:22.15 | Thunder_Child | Shirik: whats normal eyeball view in lens mm? |
| 03:22.21 | Shirik | 50 |
| 03:22.29 | Thunder_Child | thanks |
| 03:23.33 | Thunder_Child | Shirik: then why does 'standard' zoom drop all the way down to 17mm? |
| 03:23.40 | Shirik | ? |
| 03:23.45 | Iriel | ?? |
| 03:23.46 | Shirik | 17 seems extremely wide to me |
| 03:23.48 | Thunder_Child | i would think standard starts at ~50 |
| 03:23.57 | Iriel | It's less so on a DX format lens |
| 03:24.00 | Iriel | but still pretty wide |
| 03:24.20 | Thunder_Child | well i am looking on dpreivew |
| 03:24.32 | Thunder_Child | normal is anywhere from 17 to 135 |
| 03:24.37 | Thunder_Child | so it would seem |
| 03:24.59 | Iriel | What's the top end on that zoom? |
| 03:25.11 | Iriel | Possibly they consider standard anything that overlaps their "standard range" |
| 03:25.16 | Iriel | not those fully enclosed within it |
| 03:25.36 | Thunder_Child | that makes sense since the lowest telephoto is 50mm |
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| 04:05.54 | Subspace | Shadowed, You take care of Gladius? |
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| 04:11.42 | Arrowmaster | but how do you clean them? http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_AYwY74fDryU/SkJJAPpnVwI/AAAAAAAAPwU/Vl4s_EndpD8/s400/Pierced%252BEyeglasses.JPG |
| 04:12.01 | Seerah | o.O |
| 04:12.23 | kd3 | eeeew |
| 04:15.12 | Thunder_Child | Clever |
| 04:18.56 | Cairenn|afk | ewwwwwwwwwwwwww |
| 04:24.00 | dolby | ouch! |
| 04:24.40 | dolby | he needs to add magnets so it isnt a pita to take off |
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| 04:32.35 | Adys | dolby: any kind of magnet powerful enough to hold glasses stable on such a surface area would result in dead skin |
| 04:38.40 | Dridzt | we are monkeys in a machine shop after all, when monkey put finger in wrong place you never know |
| 04:39.10 | Dridzt | evolution pfft |
| 04:39.36 | Thunder_Child | Shirik: In case you plan on buying camera equipment it would seem that B&H/Adorama is now cheaper than amazon because they are the same price but collect no tax. |
| 04:42.43 | Arrowmaster | amazon collects tax? |
| 04:46.48 | kd3 | in some states |
| 04:47.30 | Arrowmaster | not in mine, although their free shipping has turned to shit so i may have to start paying for 2day shipping |
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| 04:55.59 | karl_w_w | fuckin october and it's 31 days |
| 04:58.43 | Thunder_Child | Arrowmaster: soon all of them |
| 05:00.12 | Arrowmaster | if amazon starts collecting sales tax here and their free shipping doesnt improve (they nolonger have a $0.01 release day shipping option from what i can tell) then i may be forced to start shopping at gamestop |
| 05:00.13 | Arrowmaster | yuck |
| 05:00.34 | Thunder_Child | $80/year is hardly bad |
| 05:00.37 | durcyn | well, it's all bloody over at that point. |
| 05:00.42 | Thunder_Child | and it comes with all of the streaming content |
| 05:00.53 | Arrowmaster | their streaming content sucks |
| 05:01.30 | Arrowmaster | and its $80/year over what it would cost to shop at gamestop |
| 05:02.20 | durcyn | after reading about their treatment of temporary warehouse workers, i'd just as soon not give amazon anything |
| 05:05.17 | karl_w_w | implying no other company in the world mistreats some workers |
| 05:06.01 | durcyn | i in no way implied that, but i also boycott walmart for the same reasons. if more people did the same, it'd actually accomplish something |
| 05:06.23 | durcyn | or you could just blithely let that sort of thing continue |
| 05:08.00 | karl_w_w | my point is if you knew enough about every company you'd have to boycott them all |
| 05:09.20 | durcyn | not 100%, that's kind of the point? |
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| 05:19.58 | karl_w_w | so i just noticed that in addition to no monthly fees, my bank account also has no overdrawn fees and no dishonour fees |
| 05:21.04 | bluspacecow | your bank manager's a member of the mob |
| 05:21.19 | bluspacecow | so is wanting a "favour" in the future |
| 05:22.01 | karl_w_w | :P |
| 05:22.06 | bluspacecow | http://sphotos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/580929_3436048280249_1408715052_n.jpg |
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| 05:30.03 | Fisker | bluspacecow |
| 05:30.11 | bluspacecow | hi! |
| 05:30.12 | bluspacecow | :3 |
| 05:30.33 | Fisker | hi |
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| 05:32.28 | bluspacecow | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:32.35 | nilyaK | :) |
| 05:32.48 | nilyaK | stupid barrels. |
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| 05:33.12 | nilyaK | been tryingto get this cooking recipe all day. |
| 05:33.17 | bluspacecow | stormstout brewery ? |
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| 05:33.34 | nilyaK | no, oh god is there one there? |
| 05:33.43 | nilyaK | this is banana-infused rum. |
| 05:34.07 | bluspacecow | well you mentioned barrells |
| 05:34.16 | nilyaK | oh, it spawns in a barrel |
| 05:34.25 | bluspacecow | and thought of that fight with the guy going on about ooking you in the dooker |
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| 05:36.28 | Ackis | Cairenn|afk: you around? |
| 05:36.47 | Cairenn|afk | more of a round than I like these days |
| 05:36.51 | Ackis | heh |
| 05:36.52 | Fisker | only 17 hours now bluspacecow |
| 05:37.05 | bluspacecow | till sexy tiems ? |
| 05:37.06 | Cairenn|afk | wants to get back to hourglass :p |
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| 05:38.00 | Fisker | nope bluspacecow |
| 05:38.38 | bluspacecow | *hands Cairenn|afk http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-fZaUee6kXrY/TnePUmxXpbI/AAAAAAAAQ1A/pwbmAyQWuzs/s1600/Hourglass+%25281%2529.jpg* |
| 05:38.46 | Cairenn|afk | lol |
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| 06:29.59 | Mr_Rabies | hmmm |
| 06:30.20 | Mr_Rabies | what healing addons does everyone use? i'm looking into getting something for offhealing on my feral druid with dream of cenarius |
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| 06:48.35 | karl_w_w | clique is the only healing addon you need, assuming you use decent raid frames |
| 06:51.40 | Mr_Rabies | i use the default, which are decent when they're not bugged out |
| 06:51.57 | Mr_Rabies | they like to randomly break and target a different player than the one i'm clicking on sometimes |
| 06:52.08 | Mr_Rabies | and i'm not 100% sure why, as i have nothing that directly interacts with it :| |
| 06:52.27 | karl_w_w | That happened to me once using xperl |
| 06:52.35 | karl_w_w | but only once and it was a while ago |
| 06:52.44 | Mr_Rabies | it happened during firelands literally every day |
| 06:52.51 | durcyn | i hope you're not still using xperl, karl_w_w. |
| 06:52.54 | Mr_Rabies | it went away for a while in ds, but it seems to be back |
| 06:53.02 | karl_w_w | don't hold your breath durcyn :P |
| 06:53.05 | karl_w_w | and why not? |
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| 06:53.33 | durcyn | have you read its commit logs lately? it's being maintained by a gaggle of amateurs, and badly. |
| 06:54.15 | Mr_Rabies | hmm, i do have this installed, which does interact with the raid frames: http://www.curse.com/addons/wow/candystripehealth |
| 06:54.36 | Mr_Rabies | but i was having this problem before i installed it :| |
| 06:55.56 | karl_w_w | yes i have read the commits, and a lot of them are removing old & bad code from when the 'non-amateurs' were running the show |
| 06:56.11 | bluspacecow | *eats karl_w_w's commits* |
| 06:56.51 | karl_w_w | kinky |
| 06:57.05 | Mr_Rabies | have i mentioned how much the goblin glider owns |
| 06:57.07 | Mr_Rabies | because iw owns |
| 06:57.11 | Mr_Rabies | it owns* |
| 06:59.22 | Subspace | If I have a problem w/ Gladius throwing errors in bgs, what should I do to get it fixed? Fix it myself and send a patch somewhere? Tell someone which lines of code have the problem? |
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| 07:01.11 | Mr_Rabies | do what i do |
| 07:01.27 | Mr_Rabies | find out where they relax, and harass them incessantly in there until they leap from the nearest open window |
| 07:02.13 | Mr_Rabies | Shadowed is in here, and his name's attached to Gladius |
| 07:02.27 | Subspace | Hmm |
| 07:02.31 | bluspacecow | ha ha ha |
| 07:02.31 | Subspace | Shadowed, ping? |
| 07:02.39 | bluspacecow | good luck with hassling shadowed then :P |
| 07:02.53 | Mr_Rabies | http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/gladius/ |
| 07:02.56 | Subspace | Thanks, looks like I might need it |
| 07:03.01 | bluspacecow | start with a pastebin of the error |
| 07:03.07 | Mr_Rabies | a ticket there would work |
| 07:03.11 | bluspacecow | most complete stack trace as you can |
| 07:03.13 | bluspacecow | yeah ticket |
| 07:03.38 | Subspace | I think I found the problem from looking at the code |
| 07:10.33 | Fisker | hey bluspacecow |
| 07:10.37 | Fisker | however not hey Mr_Rabies |
| 07:10.50 | Mr_Rabies | hey fisker |
| 07:11.45 | Fisker | :( |
| 07:25.02 | Primer | This is lame. Seems that weakauras can't handle spells like Holy Word: Serenity |
| 07:25.44 | Primer | because it's one of those spells that's contingent on the priest chakra state |
| 07:28.30 | Fisker | so Stanzilla |
| 07:28.32 | Fisker | what to do? |
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| 07:38.04 | karl_w_w | hey Fisker can I borrow your copy of 50 shades of grey? |
| 07:44.53 | karl_w_w | all I can say is thank god for the invisible character |
| 07:53.03 | Mr_Rabies | hey fisker |
| 07:59.21 | nilyaK | slenderman is in 50 shades? |
| 08:01.12 | bluspacecow | slender fisker man |
| 08:03.55 | nilyaK | I want to sleep next to my roommate and cuddle, she sleeps like a brick, I take ambien, we wouldn't keep eachother up right? =/ |
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| 08:04.16 | Maldivia | nilyaK: depends what you mean by up |
| 08:05.13 | karl_w_w | why wont the archaeology daily giver talk to me? :( |
| 08:05.16 | nilyaK | only one kind in this sense |
| 08:05.36 | karl_w_w | i right click him and he talks, but no screen comes up! |
| 08:05.46 | nilyaK | women have the advantage of lacking ambiguity in our sentences. |
| 08:06.35 | bluspacecow | *licks nilyaK* |
| 08:07.03 | karl_w_w | lol nilyaK |
| 08:07.28 | nilyaK | *rubs down bluspacecow and brushes her coat* now you can be shiny like the rest of the herd! Fly away to panda panda land! |
| 08:07.37 | bluspacecow | :3 |
| 08:14.43 | Maldivia | jelly bean |
| 08:15.40 | Fisker | i killed a mob bluspacecow |
| 08:15.45 | bluspacecow | O_O |
| 08:15.51 | bluspacecow | upgraded from just a man ? |
| 08:17.10 | nilyaK | in just 7 days |
| 08:17.13 | nilyaK | and 6 long nights |
| 08:17.27 | nilyaK | I can make you a MAAAAN |
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| 08:18.03 | Fisker | wut |
| 08:18.15 | Fisker | since when has US gms begun answering eu tickets? |
| 08:21.03 | nilyaK | http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x7jsxh_the-rocky-horror-picture-show-i-can_fun prob nsfw unless you live in a very liberalworkplace |
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| 08:34.54 | Fisker | answer me bluspacecow |
| 08:35.22 | bluspacecow | hmmm |
| 08:39.14 | karl_w_w | dammit |
| 08:39.21 | karl_w_w | whats the jade vegetable called |
| 08:39.29 | karl_w_w | jade squash? |
| 08:39.38 | karl_w_w | yes |
| 08:48.29 | Fisker | hey karl_w_w |
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| 08:49.42 | karl_w_w | fisk heyer |
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| 09:14.25 | zenzio | ... say what? http://serverfault.com/questions/442157/why-allow-windows-to-disable-one-core |
| 09:15.25 | karl_w_w | either he doesnt know that windows is an operating system, or he doesnt know what operating system means |
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| 10:53.20 | bluspacecow | heh odd bug |
| 10:53.31 | bluspacecow | i have a bucket of water from the putting out the fires quest |
| 10:53.45 | bluspacecow | and now a bucket randomly appears on my toon at odd moments |
| 10:53.49 | bluspacecow | FEAR MA BUCKET |
| 10:59.00 | zenzio | obvious http://media.giantbomb.com/uploads/0/6733/951825-bucket_super.jpg reference |
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| 13:40.02 | alestane | Morning, Peppy. |
| 13:40.08 | alestane | All done with the confusing classes? |
| 13:40.26 | Lopeppeppy | Part I, yes. Part II starts on Monday. |
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| 14:08.38 | Jamash | Where is my bucket? |
| 14:08.46 | Lopeppeppy | I eated it. |
| 14:08.58 | zenzio | :( |
| 14:09.08 | Jamash | I want my bucket back |
| 14:09.30 | Lopeppeppy | Noooo. Mine now. |
| 14:11.20 | Jamash | Have you seen my bucket? |
| 14:12.58 | Fisker | http://i.imgur.com/Hq2iY.png :( |
| 14:13.39 | Jamash | dodged a bullet there Fisker |
| 14:13.49 | mitch0 | Fisker: what a fuggly window |
| 14:14.15 | Fisker | why are you mad mitch0 ? |
| 14:14.42 | mitch0 | 'cos you post pictures of fugly windows |
| 14:14.59 | Jamash | (http://youtu.be/vS0x72_nflU) |
| 14:15.57 | Jamash | in terraria you can wear a hat like a bucket |
| 14:16.00 | Jamash | wait |
| 14:16.08 | Jamash | ... |
| 14:16.16 | Jamash | in terraria you can wear a bucket like a hat |
| 14:16.20 | Jamash | brb caffeine |
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| 14:57.28 | karl_w_w | what is this damaging ability stormslash im seeing on recount? |
| 14:58.19 | karl_w_w | oh its the shammy totem |
| 15:01.17 | Vlad| | what does "ugg" mean? it's filtered by profanity LOL |
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| 15:03.29 | Vlad| | notice Sgttuggle's name in the quote http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showpost.php?p=267629&postcount=2 :P |
| 15:04.13 | karl_w_w | Ugg is a trademark |
| 15:04.42 | Dagmar | I think maybe it means "whore". |
| 15:04.48 | karl_w_w | i cant think of any other reason, seems like a strange reason though |
| 15:05.22 | Dagmar | Actually, I was being snarky |
| 15:05.43 | Dagmar | There's nothing obscene about "Ugg" in English or any other language that I'm aware of. |
| 15:06.22 | Dagmar | It's not like they block phrases for pointless overuse like reddit, or "YOLO" and "u mad bro?" would be long gone. |
| 15:09.55 | karl_w_w | maybe sum1 at wowi hates ugg boots, or the females who wear them in summer |
| 15:10.35 | Dagmar | Hence my comment about it meaning "whore". I don't think they look bad, just bulky. |
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| 15:10.56 | karl_w_w | its not a good look |
| 15:11.09 | karl_w_w | "epic fashion victim" comes to mind |
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| 15:12.08 | karl_w_w | or maybe it's this: http://flavroll.me/ugg |
| 15:13.30 | Dagmar | Oh jesus |
| 15:13.41 | Dagmar | Technically probably SFW but I'm still sorry I looked |
| 15:13.43 | karl_w_w | we have 3 winners |
| 15:14.19 | Dagmar | karl_w_w: I think the hipsters take the award for "epic fashion victim" seven days a week |
| 15:15.57 | karl_w_w | ew who here uses opera |
| 15:16.36 | Dagmar | Maybe the midgets who Slaine is making clothes ofr |
| 15:17.02 | Dagmar | I'm not a fucking monster, but x-large being for a 42" chest? Seriously? |
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| 15:22.28 | Dagmar | The matching pants are still out of stock, and just because that irks me it still doens't mean I'm gay. |
| 15:24.20 | Vlad| | well, maybe profanity can be a little slack |
| 15:24.31 | karl_w_w | Kalroth you lurker |
| 15:24.38 | Vlad| | like if some small village says jubb as slang for penis and you add that to the profanity filter, it's silly :P |
| 15:25.49 | Unkle | Dagmar Dude. I have to buy everything in in 3X 'cause you know... Big shoulders, bug gut. |
| 15:27.59 | zenzelezz | bug gut sounds unpleasant |
| 15:29.03 | Unkle | Yes, it it is. I meant to type "big" but you know... typing skill is low until caffeine and care quotients are higher. |
| 15:32.36 | Iriel | I like bug guts and I cannot lie |
| 15:32.58 | Unkle | You other exterminators can't deny |
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| 15:36.49 | karl_w_w | when a ladybug walks in with an itty bitty thorax and a round bowel in your face you get spray |
| 15:37.00 | karl_w_w | stretches it to breaking point |
| 15:37.15 | Unkle | Well done, sir. |
| 15:41.09 | Iriel | karl_w_w: I'm impressed, I couldn't make anything else sound even half as good |
| 15:44.07 | Kalroth | karl_w_w, im not a lurker! |
| 15:45.09 | Kalroth | goes back to lurking |
| 15:45.51 | karl_w_w | 25th October, 2012, 4:12 pm212.10.*.*DK Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:16.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/16.0 |
| 15:45.55 | karl_w_w | he lies! |
| 15:46.08 | karl_w_w | http://flavroll.me/ugg/stats btw |
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| 15:53.27 | Kalroth | karl_w_w, who lies? |
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| 15:53.48 | karl_w_w | you |
| 15:53.56 | karl_w_w | holy god youtube layout changed |
| 15:54.15 | karl_w_w | I don't like change put it back |
| 15:54.17 | Kalroth | ahh, its stats for the sexy man dude in his undies |
| 15:54.40 | karl_w_w | that it is |
| 15:54.47 | Kalroth | it made me think of Fisker |
| 15:55.08 | karl_w_w | that's because it is Fisker |
| 15:55.15 | Fisker | on a scale from 1 to 10 Kalroth |
| 15:55.17 | Fisker | how jelly are you? |
| 15:55.19 | Fisker | http://i.imgur.com/QXSua.jpg |
| 15:55.44 | karl_w_w | you foolish Fisker |
| 15:56.20 | zenzelezz | anyone have any idea roughly how much it'd cost to ship a pair of headphones from the US to Europe? Or whether or not there'd be customs on the US end? |
| 15:57.08 | F16Gaming | they aren't available from any europe seller? sounds weird for headphones |
| 15:57.45 | zenzelezz | I have no idea why |
| 15:58.06 | Fisker | there will be customs |
| 15:58.10 | F16Gaming | anywho, the things i've had shipped from US had no customs fee as far as i'm aware (two books and some music sheets) |
| 15:58.11 | Fisker | unless you're lucky and they get through it |
| 15:58.18 | Fisker | or unless you have some better laws here |
| 15:58.21 | Fisker | there* |
| 15:58.24 | Fisker | where do you live zenzelezz ? |
| 15:58.27 | zenzelezz | Fisker: for the person sending it? I know there'll be customs on my end |
| 15:58.31 | Fisker | oh ok |
| 15:58.34 | Fisker | no not for the person sending it |
| 15:59.46 | Kalroth | Thomas bought Win8 and he's calling ME jelly |
| 15:59.52 | Kalroth | Win8 is the new WinME |
| 15:59.59 | Fisker | mad Kalroth ? |
| 16:00.08 | Kalroth | more like sad |
| 16:00.28 | Fisker | so mad |
| 16:00.33 | zenzelezz | blargh, and now Paypal's saying the person "cannot currently receive payments" |
| 16:01.05 | n00bwork | karl_w_w: i just noticed the youtube layout too - i can't find anything at all now? |
| 16:01.30 | n00bwork | can't even find how to look at the top videos on youtube - i had to google it O_o |
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| 16:04.50 | neutronimity | http://pastebin.com/VamT1kXZ :( |
| 16:05.25 | karl_w_w | wow what a mess |
| 16:05.56 | karl_w_w | why the hell is the video name under the video |
| 16:06.01 | neutronimity | (that was concepted for my restoration druid, by me) |
| 16:06.07 | Unkle | http://live.cnet.com/Event/Microsoft_Windows_8_event - did anyone else feel like they were watching the Home Shopping Channel? |
| 16:06.47 | neutronimity | I see a mistake btw :o |
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| 16:18.43 | Lopeppeppy | It's an event! A rain event! |
| 16:18.53 | Lopeppeppy | ... no, it's just fucking raining, deal with it. Not everything is an event. |
| 16:21.36 | karl_w_w | <neutronimity> I see a mistake btw :o <- yeah, windows 8 |
| 16:22.09 | neutronimity | And also I apparently had the same command listed 2 times :P or so |
| 16:23.53 | n00bwork | neutronimity: how come you don't use a bar-switching addon like bartender? |
| 16:23.55 | n00bwork | just curious |
| 16:24.29 | neutronimity | It would induce me into a set-up-all-the-settings-spree |
| 16:24.38 | neutronimity | And I hate wasting my time on that |
| 16:24.50 | n00bwork | lol fair enough |
| 16:25.07 | nevcairiel | so you waste your time on writing a lot of confusing macros instead? :d |
| 16:25.12 | nevcairiel | seems perfectly reasonable!" |
| 16:25.17 | neutronimity | Yes much better! |
| 16:25.26 | neutronimity | And |
| 16:25.38 | neutronimity | MultiBarLeftButton1 |
| 16:26.28 | neutronimity | http://pastebin.com/xZEtCKmw is what i placed in that button |
| 16:26.55 | n00bwork | i.. what is this for? |
| 16:27.39 | neutronimity | Well, I have this /click thisbuttonthing in all my attack macros |
| 16:27.59 | neutronimity | Every time I press these macros, it executes the second macro |
| 16:28.20 | neutronimity | Sort of .. plugging in |
| 16:29.58 | n00bwork | so you have a button that clicks another button? why not just add /startattck etc to the one macro and save a button? |
| 16:31.37 | neutronimity | Hmm |
| 16:31.39 | neutronimity | Because |
| 16:32.22 | neutronimity | http://pastebin.com/kWVjdm5D |
| 16:33.02 | neutronimity | Here i have 4 abilities, and these already take up some character space. It would take up even more character space if I wanted to put in /autoattack and /target mouseover |
| 16:33.32 | neutronimity | And I'm shortening that a lot by using a reference |
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| 16:41.48 | neutronimity | nevcairiel for me it seems easier to control with scripts what abilities are placed where than with drag/drop and not knowing where I had placed something some time |
| 16:42.25 | neutronimity | And uhm, I think it would really save me time setting up macros than uhm with bartender hehe, since I also want the startattack component |
| 16:42.34 | neutronimity | (and also macro space) |
| 16:42.57 | neutronimity | I have been lamenting about macro space until I discovered spec and from conditionals |
| 16:50.04 | F16Gaming | is there a handy function to check if a lua pattern string is valid? |
| 16:50.40 | F16Gaming | !api pattern |
| 16:50.41 | lua_bot | Could not find a match for 'pattern'. |
| 16:52.50 | g0urra | whoever designed the new youtube layout should DIAF |
| 16:52.55 | g0urra | http://i.imgur.com/uoNY0.jpg (ignore the blurring) |
| 16:53.01 | neutronimity | ~[,,_,,]:3 |
| 16:56.16 | F16Gaming | i've found that youtube spontaneusly changes layout during the day based on the position of various planets and stars |
| 17:00.15 | neutronimity | our google overlords |
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| 17:12.51 | Kraps | F16Gaming, oh that explains it |
| 17:16.34 | F16Gaming | search working :D http://i.imgur.com/MZNsw.png |
| 17:18.59 | g0urra | F16Gaming: I noticed that as well before yesterday |
| 17:19.09 | g0urra | but now it's this shitty layout and I can't change it back :( |
| 17:19.16 | F16Gaming | :/ |
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| 17:19.28 | F16Gaming | hm |
| 17:19.38 | F16Gaming | clicking the "X" in the search box doesn't seem to trigger OnTextChanged |
| 17:19.59 | F16Gaming | (using SearchBoxTemplate) |
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| 17:24.34 | PPDOTS | how i get one shot macro im hunter thx |
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| 17:30.50 | TC-Work | How do i get things i'm douche thx |
| 17:36.16 | Jamash | how I mine for fish? |
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| 17:44.26 | Semlar | dynamite |
| 17:59.42 | Dagmar | Ah geez we're back to pretending 25-man raids are harder again |
| 18:00.14 | Unkle | We're back to "you only cleared it on 10 man? You only get crappy loot" |
| 18:00.21 | Fisker | they are not the same difficulty anyway Dagmar |
| 18:00.33 | Fisker | and it's like the other raid change a while back |
| 18:00.42 | Dagmar | Exactly my point. 10-man is considerably more inflexible and unforgiving. |
| 18:01.05 | Fisker | depends on the encounter |
| 18:01.47 | Dagmar | Every time I did them before the 25-man version was easier, excepting one fight that was a visual fuck-fest |
| 18:01.50 | Lopeppeppy | is a bad, bad girl. |
| 18:02.23 | Unkle | I wouldn't mind if 25 man dropped considerably /more/ loot of the /same/ ilevel. I just don't like the idea of a number on my armory that says "2nd class player" (even if I'm actually a 2nd class player.) |
| 18:03.08 | Unkle | It's a visceral reaction to the idea that because it's harder to corral 25 cats than 10 cats I'm not entitled to the same quality of loot. |
| 18:03.13 | karl_w_w | yeah it's a stupid idea |
| 18:03.42 | Lopeppeppy | Elistist Jerks! |
| 18:04.19 | karl_w_w | http://au.answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=Ak5Bom9xPvsQUmwWA2cYg_zfvIlQ;_ylv=3?qid=20121023154204AAacQeS |
| 18:04.22 | karl_w_w | facepalms |
| 18:04.46 | Unkle | Well, every one is elitist in some respect, and I *don't* care that people play better than me. I care that factor outside my control equates to the sort of reward I can have. |
| 18:05.07 | Fisker | encounters like the blood queen one in icc was definitely easier on 10-man |
| 18:05.10 | Fisker | so was sindragosa |
| 18:05.14 | Lopeppeppy | A "bite" is what you get from a rat when you hang out in the alley smoking crack while sitting on a computer... |
| 18:05.49 | karl_w_w | some are harder on 10 though |
| 18:05.56 | karl_w_w | it's swings and roundabouts |
| 18:06.18 | Fisker | indeed |
| 18:06.23 | Dagmar | Most are considerably harder because, for example, if you drop a healer in 10-man, there goes generally all or 50% of your HP regain |
| 18:06.27 | Fisker | basically they never were able to balance it properly |
| 18:06.33 | Dagmar | 25-man? No worries. You can pack 3-5 healers. |
| 18:06.50 | Semlar | each individual player contributes less in a 25 man |
| 18:07.36 | Unkle | Yeah, my officers and I were talking about how to design our comps - and in 10 man, 2 tanks and 2 healers means you can't have an single slacker on DPS. |
| 18:07.57 | cbreak | 2 tanks and 3 healers |
| 18:08.12 | Semlar | on the other hand it's easier to get 10 players together |
| 18:08.14 | Unkle | And if you have to carry a 3rd healer, it really means one of your tanks or one or more of your DPS sucks. |
| 18:10.00 | Dagmar | Semlar: Probably easier to gather 25 zerglings. |
| 18:10.54 | Jamash | just make all raids 15 |
| 18:10.56 | Semlar | it's harder to raid around 25 different people's schedules i should say |
| 18:10.57 | Jamash | problem solved |
| 18:11.17 | Semlar | but it's easier to swap people out |
| 18:11.24 | alestane | Why are you a bad girl now, Peppy? |
| 18:11.29 | Jamash | or make raids dynamically scale for any group size from 10 to 40 |
| 18:11.41 | Jamash | why isn't he? |
| 18:11.45 | Jamash | s/he/she/ |
| 18:12.08 | Dagmar | Considering that most of the guilds on my server seem to recruit by advertising _when_ the raid, I don't see the scheduling thing being that big of a deal |
| 18:13.01 | Semlar | you really can't account for everyone always being available at a given time |
| 18:13.24 | Jamash | seems like M-F 9 to 6 is dead |
| 18:13.26 | Semlar | but if you have reserves it doesn't really matter |
| 18:13.56 | Unkle | Yeah, a raid team really needs a bullpen or bench to pull from in the event someone is going to be missing. |
| 18:13.58 | Jamash | everyone I know has a different work schedule |
| 18:14.14 | Semlar | it's harder on small guilds i guess |
| 18:14.14 | Jamash | which makes scheduling Rogue Trader difficult |
| 18:14.24 | Jamash | we're on alternating sundays at the moment |
| 18:14.38 | Unkle | Which is why it takes a guild of about 30 people to routinely raid with a 10 man team. And even then, expect to dip into the server population for fill-ins. |
| 18:14.40 | Jamash | and that's only six people |
| 18:14.48 | Jamash | exactly |
| 18:15.13 | Dagmar | I don't think we've ever had 30 people |
| 18:15.14 | Jamash | wow desperately needs multi-guild alliances |
| 18:15.19 | Semlar | the problem with that is you have extra people who don't get to raid with the group |
| 18:15.23 | Jamash | with a multi-guild chat channel |
| 18:15.46 | Dagmar | Custom channels are one command away |
| 18:15.53 | Jamash | Custom channels are shit |
| 18:15.58 | Unkle | Yeah. Exactly. |
| 18:16.06 | Dagmar | pfft. They're no different from EFnet |
| 18:16.19 | Dagmar | Last man standing wins ops, no services. |
| 18:16.24 | Jamash | you can't reserve them without someone being logged in 24/7, you have to make everyone join them manually or download some addon |
| 18:16.31 | Jamash | it's terribad |
| 18:16.55 | Dagmar | I guess it's too much to expect something other than binary thinking |
| 18:16.57 | Jamash | *if* they dramatically improved the UI and allowed people to reserve them it might work |
| 18:17.06 | Jamash | but probably not |
| 18:17.17 | Jamash | whereas guild alliances could definitely work |
| 18:17.21 | Dagmar | God forbid people download a client to use IRC |
| 18:17.24 | Unkle | http://www.thedailyblink.com/2012/10/daily-quest-diatribes/ |
| 18:17.37 | Jamash | generally what ended up happening was we'd just use vent because in game communication is so bad |
| 18:17.57 | Dagmar | Unkle++ |
| 18:18.10 | Jamash | put a dismount field around quest npcs, problem solved |
| 18:18.35 | Jamash | brb posting that |
| 18:18.36 | Dagmar | I'd prefer a dismount-and-murder field |
| 18:18.42 | Fisker | not entirely Jamash |
| 18:18.46 | Semlar | that doesn't stop people from standing on them |
| 18:19.02 | Fisker | just do the area where noone can pass thingy |
| 18:19.06 | Dagmar | Spontaneous murder does a pretty good job of freeing up space |
| 18:19.42 | Semlar | a-la isle of queldanas where people were actually flagged and the guards would come charging at you when you clicked on someone standing on the quest giver |
| 18:20.01 | Unkle | Haha. yes. So many bad times. |
| 18:20.06 | Semlar | so many good times |
| 18:20.11 | Semlar | oh i mean bad |
| 18:20.14 | Semlar | right |
| 18:20.31 | Jamash | both really |
| 18:20.47 | Jamash | we sometimes set up a QD gank squad and ran riot, and sometimes we were the ones in the barrel |
| 18:21.11 | Jamash | my main still has his brewhat buff |
| 18:21.40 | Jamash | I think one of my alts still had the end of the world sandwich board buff from the pre-cata event until a few months ago |
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| 18:22.25 | Tsulong | wut up |
| 18:22.25 | Tsulong | :"d |
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| 18:22.56 | TC-Work | Not your linguistical skills |
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| 18:37.23 | pompy | Arrowmaster: which edition of ac3 are you going to pick up? |
| 18:37.26 | pompy | http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/10/25/assassins-creed-iii-pre-orders-break-ubisoft-record |
| 18:37.47 | Fisker | is none a choice pompy ? |
| 18:38.09 | pompy | stfu |
| 18:38.15 | Fisker | why? |
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| 18:49.34 | Tsulong | hmm |
| 18:50.08 | Tsulong | I dont know if this is correct |
| 18:50.19 | Tsulong | elseif GalleonWatchLS > 324000 then doesnt seem to be working ingame |
| 18:50.44 | Semlar | what is the if |
| 18:50.45 | Tsulong | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:50.55 | Tsulong | Let me just do full context |
| 18:51.16 | Tsulong | http://pastie.org/5116083 |
| 18:51.38 | Tsulong | basically im setting it up so if its more than 90 hours it returns a diffrent message (stating its possibly outdated) |
| 18:52.24 | Semlar | have you tried dumping the value to see what it is |
| 18:53.06 | Tsulong | Yeah |
| 18:53.43 | Tsulong | 262782 is what its dumping as. |
| 18:53.56 | Semlar | well that's not greater than 324000 |
| 18:53.56 | Tsulong | Time()-GalleonWatchLS) .. |
| 18:55.04 | Tsulong | its returning the first tho |
| 18:55.26 | Semlar | put print GalleonWatchLS before your if statement |
| 18:55.40 | Tsulong | To [Kiadee]: Galleon was killed 2 Day(s) 44 Minute(s) 51 Second(s) This is longer than 3 day's, and the spawn timer may be off. it will be updated when this player see's galleon spawn. (GalleonWatch v1.0) <-- being given out |
| 18:55.43 | Semlar | not that it matters i guess you know it's 0 |
| 18:56.08 | Tsulong | GalleonWatchLS (for my server) has the value of 1351014810 |
| 18:56.19 | Tsulong | (the last time he was spawned) |
| 18:56.50 | Semlar | evidently at the point in the script that you're checking its value, it's 0 |
| 18:57.07 | Tsulong | I used a UTC converter, manually /run GalleonWatchLS = NewUTCtime (dont remmebr the value greater than 3 days) |
| 18:57.27 | Tsulong | if it was 0 |
| 18:57.35 | Tsulong | it would return galleons never been seen at all |
| 18:57.51 | Semlar | you said it was returning the first one |
| 18:58.15 | Semlar | so.. you don't mean if GalleonWatchLS == 0 then |
| 18:58.19 | Tsulong | To [Tsulong]: Galleon has yet to be seen by this player. (GalleonWatch v1.0) <--- what i just did when i set GalleonWatchLS as 0 |
| 18:58.24 | Tsulong | Semlar |
| 18:58.27 | Tsulong | the first part is correct. |
| 18:59.01 | Tsulong | elseif GalleonWatchLS > 324000 then <-- this is where its fucking up |
| 18:59.19 | Tsulong | Returning the "Longer than 3 days" |
| 19:01.47 | Tsulong | hmm i attempted to fix the context of it maybe. |
| 19:02.01 | Semlar | okay, when i said what is the value of GalleonWatchLS and you said 262782 did you mean GalleonLastSpawn |
| 19:02.16 | Tsulong | http://pastie.org/5116147 <-- reported |
| 19:02.34 | Tsulong | fuck me |
| 19:02.35 | Tsulong | lol |
| 19:02.36 | Tsulong | Your right |
| 19:02.37 | Tsulong | sec |
| 19:03.29 | Semlar | you might want to change your variable names |
| 19:03.29 | Kraps | fuck you got mine http://blue.mmo-champion.com/topic/241916-remove-loot-from-lfr/ |
| 19:05.29 | Tsulong | working now |
| 19:05.48 | Semlar | good |
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| 19:09.43 | Kaylin | waits for four senses brew. |
| 19:10.04 | Semlar | no senses for you |
| 19:14.01 | Tsulong | hmm in my if then statement about Galleon spawning .. its checking Chief Salyis' message for "Loot and pillage, Bwahaha!" |
| 19:14.02 | karl_w_w | <Jamash> or make raids dynamically scale for any group size from 10 to 40 <- would never work. it would take so much dev time to make mechanics that can scale smoothly, and there would still be a "best number" of people to take depending on mechanics, and that number would change each fight |
| 19:14.29 | Tsulong | but its == so it means exact string, if i just do = and put "Loot" it shoud pick it up correct (since thats the only phrase that has loot in it ) |
| 19:14.50 | Kaylin | idk they can scale items |
| 19:15.07 | Kaylin | it would be harder but, it's a start |
| 19:15.26 | karl_w_w | items only have stats on them |
| 19:15.30 | Tsulong | Having 40 players on feng would be a bitch.. that room is small as it is for 25. |
| 19:15.56 | karl_w_w | raid encounters have things like debuffs applied to a certain number of people |
| 19:16.24 | Kaylin | % of players in the raid |
| 19:16.52 | karl_w_w | exactly |
| 19:17.00 | karl_w_w | so there will be rounding |
| 19:17.11 | Kaylin | floor(%players in raid) |
| 19:17.13 | karl_w_w | making some numbers better |
| 19:17.28 | Kaylin | we already have some numbers better |
| 19:17.36 | karl_w_w | exactly! |
| 19:17.40 | Tsulong | i.e 10 man easier than 25 |
| 19:17.43 | Kaylin | I don't see why that is an issue |
| 19:17.58 | karl_w_w | can you imagine how much worse it would be if you could bring any number of people |
| 19:18.31 | Tsulong | blah |
| 19:18.32 | Kaylin | no but I don't see the reason why one group can't have fun if another group has cleared the content already. I'm in the minority here I know |
| 19:18.33 | karl_w_w | it's easier to try and balance 2 raid sizes instead of 30 raid sizes |
| 19:18.43 | Tsulong | ^ |
| 19:27.23 | karl_w_w | highlights Wobin: http://www.catchoftheday.com.au/news.php?article=583 holy crap an even bigger catch server meltdown uncoming |
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| 19:32.11 | Tsulong | http://pastie.org/5116286 <-- does this indention work properly? |
| 19:32.30 | karl_w_w | indentation doesn't work at all |
| 19:32.46 | Tsulong | I meant look properly |
| 19:32.53 | Tsulong | brains in a few diffrent places right now |
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| 19:35.50 | Im_Idoru | Weird question, just thought I would ask here as you guys have shown a fair amount of intelligence in the past. Does the USA use a degree classification like First, upper-second, lower-second etc? |
| 19:36.56 | Iriel | Having moved to the US from the UK, I dont hear folks talk about them the same way |
| 19:37.25 | Iriel | I have a first class honors degree in computer science.. Folks here just say "I have a BS in computer science" |
| 19:37.48 | Im_Idoru | Iriel: That is what I was thinking. You get "magna-cum-laude" said a lot but never what they got |
| 19:38.09 | Im_Idoru | So, if your degree classification sucks, move to the USA ;o) |
| 19:38.40 | Im_Idoru | Grats on the first though. I was too lazy for that. |
| 19:39.11 | Semlar | tsulong http://pastie.org/5116319 |
| 19:40.05 | Tsulong | okay thanks ill work on it |
| 19:40.37 | Semlar | everything should line up |
| 19:40.43 | Iriel | Im_Idoru: thanks 8-) I worked my ass off in years 2 and 3 (in part because I flipped degree at the end of year one from math+cs to cs) |
| 19:41.04 | Im_Idoru | I swapped in year three >.< |
| 19:41.23 | Im_Idoru | Plus, that was the only year that counted towards my classification :o( |
| 19:41.44 | Iriel | Ah, Warwick had an interesting formulaic thing |
| 19:42.01 | Iriel | Weighted contribution from each year, and based on actual workload vs. normal workload |
| 19:42.14 | Im_Idoru | Mine was Computer Information Systems to Web Technologies. Ended up with a 2:2, mainly due to needing to write junk for WP7 .... |
| 19:42.46 | Im_Idoru | Lincoln for me. It was cheap and I had to pay :o( |
| 19:43.18 | Iriel | 20 years ago the state funding was better (not perfect, but better). |
| 19:44.01 | Im_Idoru | Glad I did mine when I did. Graduated this year and it cost 3K in the last year. This year it is 9K |
| 19:44.45 | Im_Idoru | When I am working I will think fondly of you getting paid more and not having to repay fees lol |
| 19:45.58 | karl_w_w | Tsulong: use lower case for your messages: http://pastie.org/5116351 |
| 19:46.50 | Tsulong | @Karl which messages? |
| 19:46.53 | karl_w_w | also if you're going to put the addon version everywhere like that use a variable so when you have to change it, you only have to change it in 1 place |
| 19:46.54 | Tsulong | SendChatMessage? o.O |
| 19:47.22 | karl_w_w | if msg == "!gwcheckprivate" then |
| 19:47.51 | Tsulong | why is that? just curious |
| 19:48.35 | Semlar | so people don't have to remember the case |
| 19:48.48 | karl_w_w | so that it works if people dont use the exact same capitalization you think they should? :P |
| 19:48.50 | Im_Idoru | Because they won't |
| 19:49.25 | Im_Idoru | If it is imperative that a user does something, you can be sure they won't |
| 19:49.26 | Semlar | you could do msg:lower() == whatever |
| 19:49.56 | Semlar | so it won't matter what case they send it in |
| 19:51.06 | Lopeppeppy | You always have to program for every single way that the sheeple can break your toy. Because they *will* |
| 19:52.16 | foxlit | That sounds silly |
| 19:52.29 | Im_Idoru | Users are silly |
| 19:52.31 | Lopeppeppy | The truth always sounds weird. |
| 19:52.32 | foxlit | same logic requires you to recognize misspellings |
| 19:52.55 | Semlar | different logic |
| 19:53.17 | Tsulong | GWprivate,, is a private command not supposed to be known by many |
| 19:53.28 | karl_w_w | Lopeppeppy: http://xkcd.com/1013/ |
| 19:53.32 | Tsulong | (mainly something left in there for my guild to see if its loaded by certain people within the guild) |
| 19:53.43 | Tsulong | therefore the case matters on it.. |
| 19:54.11 | Im_Idoru | Tsulong: is this a unique addon for your guild, meaning you have control over who has access? |
| 19:54.58 | Tsulong | Im_Idoru, it was going to be but i released it a-mass, The addon is merely a check to allow any user to see it (it whispers back to the sender if they have it loaded) |
| 19:55.13 | Tsulong | Howver not many will know, and if they find out, its not like it will hurt. |
| 19:55.51 | Im_Idoru | People are just trying to suggest "Best practice" regarding addons that could be used publicly |
| 19:56.29 | Im_Idoru | Eventually people will annoy you by asking "Why is it not working" ;o) |
| 19:56.49 | karl_w_w | including your guildies |
| 19:56.51 | Im_Idoru | 10 minutes work for innumerable "FU"s ;o) |
| 19:56.59 | Lopeppeppy | Mmm, lamb chops with mint jelly |
| 19:57.05 | Tsulong | @Semlar : Interface\AddOns\GalleonWatch\GalleonWatch.lua:47: attempt to call method 'lowercase' (a nil value) whenver i changed elseif msg:lowercase() == "!galleon" then |
| 19:57.16 | Im_Idoru | I prefer mint sauce Lopeppeppy |
| 19:57.24 | karl_w_w | lamb is meh and mint jelly is bleh |
| 19:57.51 | Im_Idoru | karl_w_w: Mint sauce is better because of the sharpness |
| 19:58.00 | Kaylin | uh, lamb and mint jelly is amazing |
| 19:58.01 | karl_w_w | negative |
| 19:58.05 | karl_w_w | it's just as bad |
| 19:58.16 | Semlar | i said msg:lower() |
| 19:58.32 | karl_w_w | [karl_w_w] Tsulong: use lower case for your messages: http://pastie.org/5116351 <- the last part of this message wasn't for my own health you know |
| 19:59.10 | Tsulong | >.> |
| 19:59.22 | Im_Idoru | I s mint jelly worse that expecting users to get accurate capitalisation? Now that is the question! ;o) |
| 19:59.27 | Tsulong | you say these things without explaining |
| 19:59.30 | Tsulong | which confuses me |
| 19:59.38 | Lopeppeppy | Maybe you've only had bad jellies... but I can see a jam or nice reduced sauce being better than a jelly. |
| 19:59.59 | Tsulong | IF $Yousaythisgodthingformetodo THEN $Explainthediffrencetomewhatitsgoingtochange else $whatever. |
| 20:00.07 | Im_Idoru | I'm with you on this one Lopeppeppy ;o) |
| 20:00.15 | Im_Idoru | English? ;op |
| 20:01.35 | Tsulong | @ Karl_ Reason i dont want it to JUST be lowercase, is because some people use proper captilization |
| 20:01.43 | Tsulong | I am not pushinging them for doing that.. |
| 20:02.12 | Im_Idoru | karl_w_w: Doesn't that function convert? |
| 20:02.45 | Semlar | yeah he changes the message to lowercase before comparing to a lowercase string |
| 20:03.06 | Im_Idoru | That is what you want |
| 20:03.07 | Tsulong | msg = strlower(msg) <- missed that completly from the new pastie |
| 20:03.18 | Im_Idoru | :o) |
| 20:03.58 | karl_w_w | but people need punishment :P |
| 20:09.30 | karl_w_w | http://www.thedailyblink.com/2011/05/the-encounter-journal/ first time I've seen this, pretty funny |
| 20:10.13 | Lopeppeppy | Many whelps. Handle it. |
| 20:10.41 | karl_w_w | ahh firelands |
| 20:10.46 | karl_w_w | those were the days |
| 20:11.01 | Tsulong | msg = string.find(msg, "Loot", 1, true) would make msg = Loot if msg = ...; contains loot in it correct? |
| 20:14.40 | Semlar | if msg:find("Loot") |
| 20:16.16 | Semlar | i'm assuming this is a temporary solution until you figure out what the actual string is |
| 20:16.31 | Tsulong | Yeah |
| 20:16.48 | Tsulong | i just want to make sure it captures him in the mean time.. its hard to test on this guy :P |
| 20:20.19 | Vlad| | HELLO |
| 20:20.23 | Semlar | HI |
| 20:20.32 | Vlad| | Tsulong what's upps? :D |
| 20:21.11 | Tsulong | Nm, just working on cleaning up the recogniton |
| 20:21.44 | Vlad| | btw what are the find arguments? |
| 20:21.57 | Vlad| | ah |
| 20:21.57 | Vlad| | string.find(s, pattern [, init [, plain]]) |
| 20:22.36 | Vlad| | init is position where it starts to search (nil works if you wish to ignore) |
| 20:26.39 | Semlar | inits vlad |
| 20:27.00 | Vlad| | touches Semlars boob. |
| 20:27.23 | Semlar | *touch* |
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| 20:43.41 | kd3 | perspective is neat: http://i.imgur.com/CAyVE.jpg |
| 20:44.24 | Ressy | lol |
| 20:56.44 | Fisker | http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/5723364658 <-durrr |
| 20:56.49 | Fisker | dumb people are dumb |
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| 20:58.53 | durcyn | someone doesn't understand database locking |
| 20:59.52 | durcyn | also self entitled nerdrage etc |
| 20:59.54 | Unkle | Or high transaction rates. |
| 21:00.03 | Fisker | pls |
| 21:00.46 | Fisker | he worked at a small company running an application server that probably saw less action than he did |
| 21:01.26 | Unkle | Damn Fisker, get straight to the "you're a nerd and will never touch a woman" bottom line in a hurry. |
| 21:01.38 | TC-Work | ^ |
| 21:01.49 | Fisker | that was my point |
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| 21:02.15 | Fisker | i'm threading the thin line on the forums though :P |
| 21:03.50 | TC-Work | I wonder how similar the wow servers are to render nodes |
| 21:04.43 | Ixnorp | Can anyone suggest a mod for automatic logging of instances? I used to use Loggerhead but it seems to be full of errors these days and generally not work very well with WoW 5.x |
| 21:06.11 | Semlar | http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/autolog/ maybe |
| 21:06.27 | Ixnorp | Humm. I will look into it. Thanks for the tip. |
| 21:06.41 | Seerah | http://www.curse.com/addons/wow/loggerhead was just updated last month.... |
| 21:07.00 | Seerah | Otherwise.... /chatlog |
| 21:07.10 | Semlar | maybe they updated it to not work |
| 21:07.16 | durcyn | loggerhead just needs to be fixed to stop prompting on zone changes when GetInstanceFoo functions return default values |
| 21:07.18 | Seerah | maybe :p |
| 21:07.26 | Ixnorp | I have an updated version of LoggerHead but it throws errors any time I visit the config panel and doesn't remember when I tell it to log instances. |
| 21:07.45 | durcyn | i'd do it, but i'm lazy |
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| 21:14.14 | Fisker | oh god |
| 21:14.26 | Fisker | he knows guys with 2000-5000 database servers on their watch |
| 21:14.33 | Fisker | that must be one sore wrist |
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| 21:16.48 | Seerah | Fisker: bad joke :P |
| 21:17.06 | Fisker | he knows chmod then? |
| 21:17.44 | Seerah | no, I meant your watch joke :p |
| 21:18.52 | mckenziemc | Fisker *is* a bad joke |
| 21:19.40 | Semlar | i have a sore wrist and it's not from watching database servers |
| 21:22.52 | Fisker | if you had 2000-5000 database servers on your watch your wrist would be pretty sore too |
| 21:33.57 | Semlar | http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/122b3b/heres_some_working_code_to_sort_one_million/c6rm9r4 words |
| 21:35.31 | Kalroth | ZorbaTHut karma whoring |
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| 21:37.55 | Dagmar | People should fucking learn to bubblesort. |
| 21:38.00 | Dagmar | ...and be patient. |
| 21:38.15 | Kalroth | hahah |
| 21:38.19 | kd3 | heat death of the universe, go go |
| 21:38.45 | Dagmar | Hey nothing in the subject line implies that the list being sorted anytime soon is a requirement |
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| 21:47.12 | Tsulong | Ugh... |
| 21:47.27 | Tsulong | So now i have everyone on blackrock whispering me !Galleon 24/7 lol |
| 21:47.47 | Dagmar | lol |
| 21:48.10 | kd3 | in other news... holy crap broadcom |
| 21:48.12 | Dagmar | This means you control when massive numbers of people show up, doesn't it? |
| 21:48.21 | kd3 | actually open-sourcing important drivers |
| 21:48.26 | kd3 | is shocked |
| 21:48.27 | Dagmar | kd3: You were expecting a non-shit driver? |
| 21:48.38 | Dagmar | kd3: The driver is their usual fare. |
| 21:48.45 | Dagmar | The part you can touch is an API wrapper. |
| 21:48.53 | Dagmar | The rest is a firmware blob. |
| 21:48.59 | Dagmar | Nothing to see here, please move along. |
| 21:49.08 | mckenziemc | drops a molten firmware blob onto Dagmar. |
| 21:49.13 | Tsulong | pretty much dagmar |
| 21:49.14 | Dagmar | It's no more open-source than nVidia's proprietary driver package. |
| 21:49.20 | kd3 | ah, eh |
| 21:49.26 | kd3 | 's enthusiasm wanes |
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| 21:50.27 | Tsulong | i had one file today approve in ~30 minutes.. and this one has been going on an hour lol xD |
| 21:51.28 | mckenziemc | poke Torhal |
| 21:51.41 | mckenziemc | or you could - |
| 21:51.43 | mckenziemc | ~smackis |
| 21:51.43 | purl | ACTION smacks Ackis. |
| 21:52.07 | Dagmar | mckenziemc: Like we'd want to see the source for a driver written half in Taiwanese, one quarter in Mandarin, and one-quarter in LOLCAT |
| 21:52.28 | mckenziemc | huh? |
| 21:52.30 | Fisker | btw kd3 |
| 21:52.35 | kd3 | hm? |
| 21:52.42 | Fisker | can you tell Blizzard to stop running windows me for their servers? |
| 21:52.48 | kd3 | haha |
| 21:52.55 | durcyn | i'd like to see the compiler that can parse whatever "taiwanese" is |
| 21:53.06 | Fisker | also they should buy double the amount of servers so they can have indefinite uptime |
| 21:55.31 | Fisker | you should read it kd3 |
| 21:55.33 | Fisker | it's pretty fun |
| 21:55.34 | Fisker | http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/5723364658 |
| 21:56.34 | Tsulong | @Fisker only reasonable comparision i could do, would be Guildwars servers to wow's servers.. compere there downtime |
| 21:57.01 | Dagmar | durcyn: You'd know the answer to that after you'd seen how most of their drivers work |
| 21:57.49 | Tsulong | in the entirety of guildwars gaming life.. it had a total downtime of 32 hours, 24 of those being a server switch |
| 21:59.07 | Dagmar | Someone should just murder that illiterate cable monkey |
| 21:59.55 | Dagmar | There is no fucking way he's an admin at whatever hole in the wall he's employed at. |
| 22:01.22 | Tsulong | dude dagmar |
| 22:01.27 | Tsulong | he's talking about his minecraft server |
| 22:01.32 | Dagmar | Maybe. |
| 22:01.33 | Tsulong | where he sells rocks for $ |
| 22:01.38 | Dagmar | He claims to be working in a small datacenter |
| 22:01.49 | Tsulong | Hmm... |
| 22:01.56 | Dagmar | "Hot-spare nodes" just don't happen as easily as he seems to think they do |
| 22:02.02 | Tsulong | we had a small datacenter at krogers.. |
| 22:02.09 | Tsulong | a single rack. |
| 22:02.16 | Dagmar | HA configs aren't fuckin' easy |
| 22:03.08 | Dagmar | Giant-ass database servers, and the sizeable checks that need to be done on them from time to time arne't the sort of thing responsible people do live, either. |
| 22:03.09 | mckenziemc | ugh |
| 22:03.22 | mckenziemc | i keep thinking this is Friday, and that i thus have a horrible next day |
| 22:03.36 | mckenziemc | please let it be sunday afternoon already :S |
| 22:04.19 | Dagmar | GW2 is possibly already past that amount of downtime unless they're using creative accounting |
| 22:04.43 | Dagmar | Deciding things like "It's not down if a few people are still playing" |
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| 22:19.15 | TC-Work | Damn you memoize, stick in my barin |
| 22:19.24 | TC-Work | s/barin/brain/ |
| 22:28.20 | kd3 | yay; https://twitter.com/Ghostcrawler/status/261142464579108864 |
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| 22:30.35 | Fisker | yep kd3 |
| 22:30.40 | Fisker | best news of the century |
| 22:31.04 | Fisker | i was kinda wtf when they chose to hotfix it and only double the amount of items in a stack :( |
| 22:31.08 | Fisker | could've stacked in 1000 |
| 22:31.10 | Fisker | :/ |
| 22:32.49 | TC-Work | Aww, poor baby |
| 22:32.59 | Ressy | they hotfixed it for now? |
| 22:33.10 | kd3 | still at 180 |
| 22:33.16 | kd3 | says my random dragging/dropping |
| 22:33.22 | Ressy | fun |
| 22:39.54 | Fisker | yep indeed |
| 22:40.04 | Fisker | i meant they should've stacked it in 1000's instead :( |
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| 23:15.09 | Wobin | karl_w_w: oh god yeah. I'm saving myself the stress and ignoring this one |
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| 23:19.31 | sintAcks | throws stress at Wobin |
| 23:20.15 | Wobin | sintAcks: I've spent far too much of my life griping about that site's meltdowns and inability to work under the strain =P |
| 23:21.33 | sintAcks | what site |
| 23:34.03 | kd3 | hm... weird model track for sandy, or as I'm already starting to hear it called... the 'frakenstorm': http://www.wunderground.com/tropical/tracking/at201218_5day.html |
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| 23:35.03 | Ressy | yeah.. the fact that a hurricane might actually hit southern ontario is weird |
| 23:38.08 | pompy | http://edition.myjoyonline.com/pages/science/201210/96070.php ps3 master key leaked online by hacker group. |
| 23:40.10 | Adys | kd3: "Laugh tracks are like if you watched a porno and heard a bunch of men moaning in the background when something dirty happened to let you know it was time to masturbate." |
| 23:40.27 | kd3 | haha, wow. that's a remarkably good analogy |
| 23:40.56 | Adys | you misspelled anal o- nvm |
| 23:47.39 | TC-Work | http://pastebin.com/GYHU4rUK can someone tell me why this returns a hex? (python) |
| 23:52.43 | Adys | TC-Work: what does it return? whats the output? |
| 23:53.09 | TC-Work | Adys: <function memoizer at 0x147a230> |
| 23:53.22 | Adys | TC-Work: you're printing a function |
| 23:53.38 | kd3 | its memory address if you want to be pedantic |
| 23:53.47 | Adys | no hes printing a function |
| 23:54.00 | Adys | TC-Work: print memoize(sql) prints the sql() function, wrapped by memoize() |
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| 23:54.07 | Adys | memoize() is a decorator |
| 23:54.10 | TC-Work | except if i just print sql() it works |
| 23:54.15 | Adys | yes |
| 23:54.21 | Adys | thats probably what you want |
| 23:54.25 | TC-Work | and if i do memoize(sql()) it failes |
| 23:54.29 | TC-Work | fails* |
| 23:54.37 | Adys | yes, because you're already decorating sql() |
| 23:54.58 | Adys | line 27 is equivalent to doing sql = memoize(sql) on line 36 |
| 23:55.22 | TC-Work | and at this point if i just print sql() i get "TypeError: memoizer() takes exactly 1 argument (0 given)" |
| 23:55.27 | TC-Work | so i seem to be missing something |
| 23:55.39 | TC-Work | like knowing what i am doing |
| 23:56.06 | TC-Work | Adys: i meant print sql() w/o the decorator |
| 23:56.06 | Adys | TC-Work: what's missing is sql() should be taking an argument |
| 23:56.12 | Adys | yeah |
| 23:56.23 | TC-Work | except i dont want to give it anything |
| 23:56.29 | TC-Work | it has everything within the function |
| 23:56.51 | Adys | TC-Work: ok, what you're doing here is defining a sql() function which fetches some stuff from sqldb |
| 23:57.07 | Adys | then you are decorating that function with memoize(), which seems to cache the results of sql() |
| 23:57.17 | TC-Work | thats the idea |
| 23:57.40 | Adys | except, it deals with the caching by expecting the argument to be (most likely) the query |
| 23:57.46 | Adys | it caches the query and the result |
| 23:57.52 | Adys | but you're not passing anything to sql() |
| 23:58.04 | TC-Work | shouldnt it just be taking the return? |
| 23:58.09 | Adys | so it expects a query, but doesnt find one. sql() alone doesn't expect a query, the cache function does |
| 23:58.39 | Adys | TC-Work: yes, it should if sql() is only ever going to run one query |
| 23:58.49 | Adys | but if thats the case, you shouldnt use a decorator |
| 23:58.52 | Adys | you should just do |
| 23:59.02 | Adys | result = sql() |
| 23:59.07 | Adys | if result: <deal with result> |
| 23:59.11 | Adys | else: result = sql() |
| 23:59.14 | Adys | or something like that |
| 23:59.30 | TC-Work | Ok, I'll give that a try thanks |
| 23:59.37 | Adys | you cache the result manually, rather than going through a decorator. the decorator is here to give you more flexibility than what you need |
