IRC log for #wowuidev on 20121023

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15:17.14LopeppeppyI aim to misbehave.
15:17.54zenzelezzmay your aim be true
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15:18.12UnkleLopeppeppy Let's go be bad guys.
15:18.48Shirikbe careful
15:18.53Shirikmy sim is an international super spy
15:19.31Krapsymercy is the mark of a great man *stab* guess i'm just a good man *stab* eh i'm alright
15:20.09UnkleOh, quit your whining.  I've left you another perfectly good leg. I am, after all, a generous man.
15:20.23LopeppeppyAll that evil needs to thrive is for a good man to do nothing.
15:21.29Krapsyi swear by my pretty bonnet i will end you
15:22.07Unklepretty floral bonnet.  But yeah.
15:22.59LopeppeppyYeah. They wouldn't mind a corpse of you.
15:23.26Unkle"You don't know me, son, so let me explain this to you once: If I ever kill you, you'll be awake. You'll be facing me, and you'll be armed. "
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15:24.55LopeppeppyLet's ride right past the part where you explain exactly what that means.
15:28.02UnkleMy my days of not taking you seriously are certainly coming to a middle.
15:28.18Krapsyhaha
15:28.22Krapsyi love that one
15:28.43UnkleThat show was just brilliant.
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15:29.54LopeppeppyWhat does that make us? Big damn heroes, sir. Ain't we just.
15:30.16UnkleAlso, I can kill you with my brain.
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15:31.00LopeppeppyYeah, but she's our witch. So cut her down.
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15:42.36Krapsynow i want to look up firefly quotes but it'll have to wait till lunch
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15:43.46Unklehttp://www.imdb.com/title/tt0579535/quotes
15:45.38Fiskerslaps Lopeppeppy around a bit with a large trout
15:49.21LopeppeppyFisker, it's not lunchtime yet.
15:56.13Killa778hmm
15:56.15Killa778Interface\AddOns\GalleonWatch\GalleonWatch.lua:30: 'date' format too long
16:00.27mckenziemc~fiskerslap
16:00.27purlACTION slaps a large trout around a bit with Fisker.
16:02.57Fiskerhey mckenziemc
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16:05.45Lopeppeppyhey Fisker. Would you eat deep fried gravy balls?
16:06.21Fiskernope?
16:06.33Krapsysounds dangerous .
16:16.16mckenziemcmad Fisker?
16:19.55Fiskerwhy would i be mad?
16:20.10mckenziemcwhy would you be Fisker?
16:20.22Fiskerwhy are you mad mckenziemc ?
16:20.47Krapsywhy would you be, Fisker?
16:20.56Krapsywhy, would you be Fisker?
16:21.13Krapsywhy, would you, be Fisker?
16:21.24mckenziemcvents his Fisker on Krapsy.
16:21.41LopeppeppyKinky. Wipe up the floor afterward please.
16:25.36Unklehttp://reason.com/blog/2012/10/22/if-monster-is-recklessly-endangering-con
16:26.38Killa778:(
16:26.43Killa778i still cant figure out what i am doin wrong
16:28.47Krapsylook within yourself
16:29.51Killa778I dont know shit lol, im new to this ive been googling but this is a weird error.
16:29.54Killa778Interface\AddOns\GalleonWatch\GalleonWatch.lua:30: 'date' format too long
16:30.02Killa778http://pastebin.com/yhBxebDY (being the script)
16:30.37Krapsymeditate upon this
16:30.59Krapsyperhaps you shall find the answer you seek
16:32.30LopeppeppyWhat was the date format you used before you changed it and got that error?
16:32.36pompyhttp://www.wowpedia.org/API_date
16:33.15pompynote the note at thebottom
16:33.46LopeppeppyPompy has the eyes of sharpness +2.
16:33.59bluspacecow_hi2u Peppy
16:34.07Krapsynote the note
16:34.11pompy;)
16:34.15Krapsynote every note
16:34.16Krapsyalwayse
16:34.40pompy-e
16:35.24Killa778mmkay
16:35.30Killa778feels so noob
16:36.55mckenziemc"it is simply imprecise error wording in that version of Lua"
16:36.57mckenziemcheh
16:37.45LopeppeppyHeya, blueberry darlin'.
16:37.53Killa778SendChatMessage(): Whisper message missing target player!
16:38.03Killa778Blah now we has an error on lien 30 >.>
16:38.16Killa778is sender not a valid variable
16:38.37mckenziemcif it's not valid then yes
16:39.06mckenziemcis it a string? is it nil?
16:39.16mckenziemcis it an empty string?
16:39.21pompy!api sendchatmessage
16:39.21lua_botSendChatMessage: Sends a chat message (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/SendChatMessage)
16:39.35Killa778yes i ve been looking at that
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16:39.53Killa778Im NEW.. like this is my first time ever playing with lua for real in an addon sense.
16:40.04pompyyu wanna declare the sender var
16:40.06Killa778when u ask this stuff to me u might aswell be asking me in frenchanese
16:40.21Ressylol
16:40.34CooteHey hey, watch it with those words. You might anger a cheese eater. :P
16:40.54Cooteducks.
16:41.13mckenziemcdies
16:41.34Killa778so.. local sender = .. (im stuck here)
16:41.39Killa778It would be erm.
16:42.04bluspacecow_*stabs Coote with a mckenziemc*
16:42.24mckenziemcthe name of your target
16:42.28mckenziemc"Killa778"
16:42.31pompyUnitName("player")
16:42.33Cootebleeds out all over bluspacecow_'s new shoes.
16:42.40Krapsyi didnt know mckenziemc was sharp at all
16:42.51TC-Workgratz on your new shoes bluspacecow_
16:42.52Krapsyheh
16:42.53Killa778o.O
16:42.59TC-Workand your tail it would seem
16:44.28bluspacecow_i have a tail ?
16:44.33bluspacecow_*looks behind*
16:44.35bluspacecow_O_O
16:44.37pompyhttp://9gag.com/gag/5653161 sfw
16:44.56LopeppeppyHe gets tail?
16:44.59Cooteit's a trap
16:45.46Krapsysorry i have to hate 9gag because they copy stupid jokes that are the "property" of other stupid websites
16:46.51bluspacecow_"expect a @#$%ing lawsuite."
16:46.55bluspacecow_whats a lawsuite ?
16:47.04Cootethey don't just copy stupid jokes, they copy them from places that copied from other places that copied them from the place that originally copied them from the original websites.
16:47.05Lopeppeppysomeplace that lawyers work?
16:48.51Krapsyif memes become protected intellectual property i will quit the internet
16:48.56Fiskerinstead of the king suite it's the hotel room for lawyers
16:51.03bluspacecow_*licks fisker*
16:53.43mckenziemc*takes photos*
16:54.25Killa778mmkay
16:54.29Killa778mckenziemc
16:54.34Killa778You cant be mean to me.
16:54.39Killa778Your post on Mmo-champ brought me here.
16:54.59LopeppeppyLook out, mckenziemc. You're famous.
16:55.23mckenziemco.o
16:56.38Killa778okay so something i think i realized
16:57.30Krapsypol pot was famous
16:57.36Killa778I added http://pastebin.com/vatikvpB
16:57.39Krapsycoincidence????
16:58.02Killa778UnitName("Player") however now it always whispers it to ME... not the person who initiated the command
16:58.02LopeppeppyMickey Mouse is famous too.
16:58.21Krapsywe're talking about mckenziemc
16:58.35Killa778And another issue io found, its spitting out the CURRENT date and time, Not a stored date and time (Which should trigger as soon as he spawns, it should store it)
16:58.45mckenziemcUnitName("player") was a sample to get a valid target
16:58.52durcynKilla778:  you should probably use AddMessageEventFilter, rather than onevents
16:59.15durcynhttp://pastebin.com/BxXsBQTr
17:00.15mckenziemclua> date('%r', nil)
17:00.17lua_botmckenziemc: luabot:1: attempt to call global 'date' (a nil value)
17:00.33mckenziemclua> os.date
17:00.33lua_botmckenziemc: function: 0x9802458
17:00.43mckenziemclua> os.date('%r', nil)
17:00.43lua_botmckenziemc: 04:51:20 PM
17:00.56Killa778When i had %r
17:01.07Killa778it gave me the error about date format too long
17:01.26Ressyyou're using date.. he used os.date
17:01.34durcyn!api GetGameTime
17:01.35lua_botGetGameTime: Returns the current realm (server) time (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetGameTime)
17:02.13Killa778Imagine ur speaking to a 8 year old,, this is really confusing i mean i understand what your saying but not how it would go into it's proper place.
17:02.16mckenziemcRessy: ?
17:02.26Killa778Im trying not to be spoon fed, but i need a little hand holding..
17:02.32durcyni'm imagining i'm speaking to an 8 year old.
17:03.30mckenziemcidk the best way for you to store the spawn time, if you want it to be server agnostic
17:03.50mckenziemcbut it looks like you're trying to access a (global) lastSeen that's nil
17:04.07Killa778erm..
17:04.09mckenziemcas opposed to holding the value you want to store there
17:04.13Killa778Lastseen is called but its in the announce function
17:04.22mckenziemcoh i see
17:04.23Killa778lastseen cannot be stored until galleon has spawned
17:04.29Killa778once galleon is spawned it holds it
17:04.39Killa778and anyone questinging the time can ask by $GWLS
17:04.41KrapsyJayne, your mouth is talking. You might wanna look to that.
17:04.54Killa778And it would report when teh addon last saw galleon spawn
17:06.32Killa778@durcyn i know the onmessage work's  idk what the diffrence would be between Addmessageeventfilter and Onevent would be tho, what's the benefit
17:07.38KrapsyMal: Forget your toothpaste?
17:07.39Krapsy[punches Simon, he drops]
17:07.41KrapsySimon: Are you out of your mind?
17:07.43KrapsyMal: Eh, just about.
17:07.46Krapsywhats the context
17:08.30mckenziemcKilla778: and for the whisper target, you can get the info about who sent the query from the event arguments (if you continue to use the events)
17:08.37durcynKilla778: less overhead. the message filtering is done in c.
17:12.09karl_w_wholy gods, I will never understand why blizzard offer the ugliest mounts on the store
17:12.41Cootebecause people will still pay for them.
17:13.05LopeppeppyCollectors gonna pay to collect anyway.
17:13.06sylvanaar_workKilla778: remember that your filters should not have side effects
17:14.48sylvanaar_workKilla778: generally the OnEvent and such is for doing things that are not per-chatframe, or where you want to modify parts of the chatmessage outside the body
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17:20.55mckenziemche's not filtering though, he's watching for a message / queries
17:21.13mckenziemcand sending a response is a side-effect :-/
17:21.21sylvanaar_workyeah, events are best for that
17:22.10sylvanaar_worksince they only fire once
17:22.31Torhal|workDepends on the event :)
17:22.36Torhal|workAsk Kemayo.
17:22.40karl_w_wfires sylvanaar_work
17:22.42Torhal|work>.>
17:22.44Torhal|work<.<
17:22.47karl_w_wfires sylvanaar_work again'
17:22.51mckenziemccollects 12 right-handed Lopeppeppys.
17:22.51sylvanaar_workim assuming they are CHAT_MSG_*
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17:23.16Killa778brb's while he shoots himself.
17:23.24mckenziemco.o
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17:23.32KemayoI'm askable.
17:23.43sylvanaar_worktell us Kemayo
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17:23.51sylvanaar_worktell us about your events
17:24.35Killa778okay so
17:26.06Killa778i have the response function working now (afaik, will find out when servers are back up)
17:26.20Killa778Now i have to work on the date being stored when Announce() is called
17:26.41Killa778And Pulling the date (Time included) from that Whenever somone $GWLS's a user of the addon
17:26.56Killa778Then it will return the date to the user showing them the last time that he was seen
17:29.43KemayoAll looks broadly workable, as-is.
17:30.20Killa778currently when called.
17:30.22KemayoNeeds `local lastSeen` at the top of the file, otherwise a global with a name like that seems just begging to get overwritten by someone.
17:30.46durcynneeds a savedvariable global.
17:30.59Killa778SendChatMessage("Galleon's Last Spawn was at" .. date(" %m-%d-%y %H:%M:%S", lastSeen), "WHISPER", nil, sender); <--  is calling the current time of the pc, not the time that he was last seen
17:31.37KemayoAs durcyn mentions, this'd only work if Galleon had been seen in the current session.
17:31.53Killa778Ahh.. yeah i need it to save it not just for current session
17:31.56KemayoYou need a savedvariable declared in the TOC which you store the last seen time to.
17:32.00durcynand you should be using GetGameTime as i mentioned earlier.
17:33.09Killa778I have 4 diffrent people telling me each diffrent ways
17:33.10Killa778AGH!
17:33.11Killa778lol
17:33.23Vlad|Killa778 you should use realm time
17:33.34KemayoThen in in the response to $GWLS you should probably also be checking something along the lines of `if lastSeen then`, to account for the case when it's never been seen.
17:33.57KemayoGetGameTime seems correct.
17:34.02Vlad|:)
17:34.17Kemayo(For it is the realm time. Whereas time() is your local time.)
17:34.21Vlad|it returns 24 hour clock hours and minutes
17:34.25Vlad|exactly
17:34.29Vlad|time is just os.time
17:34.53Vlad|keep in mind that GetGameTime returns other values for instances, bgs, e.g. :D
17:35.06KemayoThough I suppose you'd probably need to use time() as well, to get the date. Unless there's a realm-date equivalent.
17:35.19Vlad|what about calendar api?
17:35.24durcynit should only be called from Valley.  Only thing that'll fuck it up there is CRZ.
17:35.54Vlad|CalendarGetDate (after PLAYER_LOGIN) returns valid date information
17:35.57Vlad|http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/CalendarGetDate
17:36.06KemayoYup: weekday, month, day, year = CalendarGetDate()
17:36.07Killa778Right now it is only called from valley
17:36.27Killa778in the Announce() function
17:37.03durcynand i'll buy you lunch if you figure out how to detect CRZ shifts
17:37.18Vlad|you can't because it's all server side, mirrors and smoke :P
17:37.30durcynas i said.
17:37.33karl_w_win valley you can
17:37.42Killa778Galleon wont spawn in a CRZ
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17:38.01Killa778You cannot see Galleon if ur in a CRZ.. so if it spawns it'll always be your realm
17:38.02karl_w_wbecause it only does it in pandaria when u accept a group invite from sum1 on another realm
17:38.04durcynhe absolutely will spawn,  you just can't get crz loot from killing him.
17:38.04Vlad|was thinking of when pandaria becomes CRZ :P
17:38.18karl_w_wand u get a warning when u are invited by sum1 from another realm
17:38.43Vlad|oh boy
17:38.48karl_w_wcan i get that lunch now durcyn? :P
17:38.56Vlad|glhf making HH:MM and DD.MM.YYYY into a unix like timestamp ;D
17:38.58durcyni'm talking about what happens when you're CRZ'd onto another server and your addon detects their galleon's spawn yell
17:39.06Vlad|leap years and all
17:39.06durcynso no you can't have that fucking lunch now
17:39.20Vlad|or better yet
17:39.28Vlad|when you login after a DC and it forgot if you are still on CRZ or not
17:39.29Vlad|:D
17:39.40karl_w_wis there something wrong with remembering if you're CRZ'd?
17:39.54durcynthere's something wrong with DETECTING IT IN LUA, for fuck sake
17:39.56Vlad|no you need to otherwise addon detects yell and broadcasts :3
17:40.01Vlad|hehe
17:40.05Killa778For general purposes right now, this will be for guilds basically
17:40.07karl_w_wwhy do you keep swearing?
17:40.09Killa778Raiding guilds
17:40.15Vlad|because of you karl_w_w
17:40.22karl_w_w[karl_w_w] and u get a warning when u are invited by sum1 from another realm <- and why are you unable to read?
17:40.26Vlad|and it's his time of the month
17:40.46Killa778Durcyn
17:40.51Vlad|not easy quitting cold turkey
17:40.52Killa778i have an idea
17:40.54Killa778let me see something
17:41.00durcynobscenity is a hobby of mine karl_w_w, you wanna talk about it
17:41.07karl_w_wfuck yeah
17:41.36Vlad|how will you prevent spoofing, Killa778?
17:42.03Vlad|you'd need a system in place to only take it serious if minimum X people have said the same within a time perioid
17:42.34Killa778nwajaja
17:42.36Killa778He just spawned
17:42.37Killa778and it shouted
17:42.40Killa778to my guild
17:42.40Vlad|and need to avoid feedback effect when the alert is re-sent
17:42.57Vlad|that's easy Killa778:D
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17:44.58Killa778oh god its so sweet
17:45.05Killa778im afk fighting galleon
17:45.28Vlad|you know there are internal systems in place to make your chance higher the more you contributed?
17:46.04Vlad|meaning if you afk as healer you heal nothing so you get low chance to get heal gear, or dps, if you did less than some % of the total health pool of everything involved in the fight you get less drop chance too
17:46.37Vlad|it's to prevent afking or slacking really bad at a fight (like world boss with pug) - system isn't in place for guild raids :p
17:46.41Krapsy<PROTECTED>
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17:46.44Krapsy<PROTECTED>
17:46.46Krapsylawl
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17:47.25Vlad|*snob laughter* he he he he
17:49.29Vlad|why doesn't anything follow up what I just said btw? was it really that not belieable? lol
17:51.53CooteVlad|: because most people don't actively watch the IRC window to see anything scrolling past. For instance, mine is usually sitting under Songbird/Foobar2000/MPC-HC/etc on my second screen off to my right.
17:52.06Vlad|lol
17:52.21Vlad|Coote where did you come from btw? I suddenly see you active on forum and irc :P
17:52.41CooteGuess the previous name, and you win. :P
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17:54.12mckenziemcbandi?
17:54.28Vlad|Torhal
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17:54.52CooteWrong on both counts.
17:55.05Vlad|Dolby
17:55.10CooteAnd it would be cheating to ask Cairenn, or Unkle.
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17:55.22Killa778okay so
17:55.29Killa778It spams the fuck outa guild during the encounter
17:55.32Killa778but thats okay that's needed
17:55.38Vlad|lol
17:55.38mckenziemclol
17:55.47Vlad|first addon, Killa778?
17:55.48Cootespamming guild is always necessary.
17:55.58Killa778yep lol (When galleon is in town it is!)
17:57.04Killa778hmm
17:57.11Killa778it seems to have stored 13:53:30
17:57.48Killa778Cause everytime i post $GWLS
17:58.00Killa778it returns todays date @ 13:53:30 (UTC time)
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18:02.19Killa778Now..
18:02.30Killa778How do i make this permanantly store that.. (using the TOC)
18:03.45karl_w_wGuildOx.com is currently undergoing maintenance. Please check back shortly. wtf
18:03.52karl_w_wthe only time I ever want to use it
18:05.36ShadowedVlad| safe bet is to believe me
18:05.43Shadowedbecause well, I'm right
18:06.37*** part/#wowuidev Paul1 (~Paul1@212.224.70.58)
18:06.53Semlarwell that's good enough for me
18:08.09Vlad|did you update the time?
18:08.33Vlad|Killa778: did you update the time? gotta update it at some point, toc stores it automatically between sessions ;)
18:08.42Vlad|Shadowed: :P
18:08.46Vlad|karl_w_w: :D
18:08.50Semlarstop that
18:09.01Semlar:|
18:09.09Krapsyrofl
18:10.09Vlad|why is there no general chat in the mop cities? :D
18:11.56Vlad|btw I like sugar
18:13.07Killa778Vlad
18:13.13Killa778What exactly do u mean did i update the time
18:13.23Killa778AS IS: its reporting the Kill time in UTC
18:13.29Vlad|ah
18:13.39Killa778the last time he was killed :D
18:13.41Vlad|the API itself returns UTC values no?
18:13.51Semlarwhy do you need to permanently store that
18:13.55Vlad|if you want realm time you probably gotta apply an offset
18:13.58Killa778date(" %m-%d-%y %H:%M:%S", lastSeen)
18:14.08Killa778Between sessions / permanrnntly whatever
18:14.18Killa778Galleons spawn is 3 days
18:14.32Killa778You need to be able to see when the last time he was kileld was.. or spawned (For you)
18:15.13Killa778And it works updating that time when Announce is set, because on his death he yells and it stores the last time finally as he dies :) so if ur there during any part of the encounter u have a ~20 minute window of when he last spawned
18:16.11Semlarokay
18:16.15Killa778is lastSeen = GetGameTime;
18:16.18Killa778Enough?
18:16.47Killa778so that between sessions (closing wow and opening it back up) that it will keep the time when it saw him spawn
18:16.49Semlarno
18:16.59Killa778okay, so what modifications do i need to make :P
18:17.12SemlarGetGameTime doesn't return the date
18:17.59Killa778http://pastebin.com/70Jqisrn
18:18.09Killa778There's 2 diffrent things, Whatever THAT is, it worked.
18:18.41Semlarand you can't do lastSeen = GetGameTime without parentheses because it's assigning the function itself to the variable
18:18.50Semlarnot the result
18:19.44Vlad|:D
18:19.47Semlaryou're basically turning lastSeen into the function GetGameTime which would let you call it like lastSeen() and get the same result
18:20.05Vlad|it's like doing a LOL = GetTime() then calling LOL() is the same like GetTime() :P
18:20.24Semlarexcept you put parentheses on GetTime
18:20.30Killa778When u type $GWLS it returns http://pastebin.com/bSjCgXS1
18:20.37Killa778It works, thats the exact time he was killed.
18:20.44Killa778it's stored somewhere, and its returning the correct value.
18:21.36Killa778that function only runs when galleon emotes (when he dies last time)
18:21.40Killa778It gets the game time.
18:21.46Semlaruh, well i'm guessing date is either defaulting to the current time or calling lastSeen for some reason
18:21.55Killa778Its calling lastseen
18:22.02Killa778and thats not the default time
18:22.08Killa778Its been 30 minutes since he spawned
18:22.14Killa778And the time has been the exact same lol
18:22.36Semlarhow can i put this, GetGameTime DOESN'T return the date
18:22.40Killa778no matter how long u wait right now its always returning Galleon's Last Spawn was at 10-23-12 13:53:30
18:22.46Semlarit can't possibly be giving you what you want
18:22.50Killa778it is
18:22.55Killa778Exactly what i am looking for actually.
18:23.01Vlad|>.<
18:23.07Killa77813:53:30 was 1:53:30 pm est
18:23.13Vlad|GetGameTime doesn't return seconds
18:23.18Killa778Exactly when galleon did his death emote
18:23.50Killa778this is the exact time he death emoted tho lol
18:24.13Vlad|I'd just do this
18:25.54SemlarVLAD http://i.imgur.com/4vyGC.jpg pick one
18:26.20Vlad|local _, month, day, year = CalendarGetDate()
18:26.21Vlad|local hours, minutes = GetGameTime()
18:26.21Vlad|local lastSeen = format("%04d%02d%02d%02d%02d", year, month, day, hours, minutes)
18:26.40Vlad|Semlar: I like the middle one BUT can it be a option thing? :P
18:26.47DagmarSemlar: I like the one in the middle, but some folks might like the one on the right
18:26.56DagmarI'm not sure who would like hte one on the left
18:27.00Vlad|also add a function to make the it square too ;D
18:27.10Semlar>_>
18:27.19DagmarSquare always looks weird when you have minimap dots
18:27.31Semlarsquare just looks a little weird inside the larger square
18:27.32Vlad|Killa778: check what I said above, reason is simple, you can sort the string and see what came first and if you need dissasemble it back into digits :P
18:27.39Semlari suppose i could give people options..
18:27.43Vlad|people are weird :P
18:27.45Semlarif i had to..
18:27.46Vlad|we like strange shapes
18:27.57*** join/#wowuidev Telshin (~textual@76.164.170.2)
18:28.26Semlaralthough once you go indoors like an instance the shape is going to have to default to the one of the two on the sides
18:28.53Semlarthe game just like throws out any partially transparent pixels
18:29.20Semlari mean even if i don't change the mask it'll look like a solid circle
18:31.45Semlaris there a setting somewhere or does the game really only show quest blobs on the minimap while the world map is open
18:32.45Semlarah nevermind i figured out why it's doing that
18:33.09Semlarit only shows it for the currently tracked quest
18:34.29Killa778btw..
18:34.42Killa778Durcyn: For my purposes of differentiating Galleon's Spawn..
18:35.34Killa778Could'nt u use INELIGIBLE_FOR_LOOT / LOOT_ITEM_AVAILABLE / SHOW_LOOT_TOAST work?
18:35.49Killa778Considering if you kill Galleon outside of a CRZ u will Get INELIDGIBLE_FOR_LOOT 100%?
18:36.21Semlartracking his death?
18:36.42Killa778tracking rather your in a CRZ or not
18:37.03Killa778that way it doesnt send out false positives about killtime
18:37.37Killa778"pseduocode" On galleons death if message = Retreat! and LOOT_ITEM_AVAILABLE then record time else end
18:38.03NeffiWhat's a fair price for 10 spirit of harmony?
18:38.14NeffiThat is getting something crafted with my mats, their harmonies
18:38.18Killa7781k/each on blackrock
18:38.20Killa778er
18:38.22Killa7781.3k
18:38.28Semlarwhat server neffi
18:38.31Neffi1.3k per harmony?
18:38.32NeffiKorgath
18:38.47NeffiMaybe I shouldve bought it when it was 8k  =(
18:39.20durcynKilla778: you're going to be engaged with him every time he does 100%?  edge cases abound.
18:39.20Vlad|well Killa778 wouldn't you like to record his death regardless if its yours?
18:39.54Killa778@Vlad| no
18:40.07Semlarthis is BoP
18:40.08Vlad|I thought you were making a addon that allcan use :P
18:40.11Killa778What if your on a CRZ, his spawnrate is diffrent, crz's dont matter due to teh fact u get 0 loot from them
18:40.15Killa778Yes.. i am
18:40.33Killa778But it does dick on server a no good if he knows that server b's spawntime is 12:00
18:40.44Killa778Because even if he knows that he cant get loot off server b's
18:40.46Semlarneffi wowhead says that item is bop is it different in game?
18:41.06Killa778semlar, its bop
18:41.10Killa778You buy them from teh person crafting
18:41.14NeffiSemlar: It's BoP. Paying somebody to craft something using THEIR harmonies. So I'm estimating what it'll cost.
18:41.17Semlarah
18:41.33Semlari see
18:41.54Semlari was trying to look up the price on tuj
18:42.15Neffilol
18:42.19Semlarneedless to say they have no data on its auction value
18:42.38karl_w_wprice of harmonies should be dropping faster than the dollar in 2008
18:42.57karl_w_wthanks to people farming motes in tiller land
18:42.58DagmarAre they upping the drop rate on them?
18:43.13Killa778Nopes lol
18:43.14Dagmar...or can you just plant the damn things now?
18:43.21Killa778Prioce of harmonies will be skyrocketing now
18:43.24Killa778check mmo-champ
18:43.28Killa778they hotfixed the tyotls
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18:43.43karl_w_wtyotls?
18:43.47Killa778Turtles
18:43.57karl_w_w<Dagmar> ...or can you just plant the damn things now? <- yes
18:44.06DagmarYou can plant motes?
18:44.08Neffiyes
18:44.10DagmarSeriously?
18:44.12Neffiyou can literally farm them
18:44.14karl_w_w16 motes per day at exalted
18:44.22DagmarWTF am I planting vegetables for
18:44.26NeffiLOL
18:44.33Killa778=1.6 spirits per day
18:44.35Killa778Still not "Farming"
18:44.36DagmarPardon me while I login, uproot everything, and then burn it
18:44.51Semlarsalt the land
18:45.11Fiskerhttp://i.imgur.com/3oH3I.png <-if you look closely we've been able to fit 4 icons where Android can only fit 7
18:45.27Ressylol
18:45.27Semlarooo
18:45.30DagmarFisker: lol
18:45.49DagmarKilla778: Beats the galloping thunderfuck out of a 1:10 drop rate
18:46.53Dagmar....and yes I know most mobs are a 5% drop-rate and not a 10% drop rate.
18:47.23DagmarFrankly their drop rate off those turtles was such crap I didn't even consider it a useful place to farm for them
18:47.33DagmarThose guys I'd kill for their scales
18:48.47TC-Workso it seems mysql is storing images as hex....anyone know a converter?
18:49.40Maldiviaehh, it's stored however you insert it into the table
18:50.27Semlarwhatever you're using to fetch from the table should be able to convert the string to binary or whatever
18:51.55DagmarDamn I have more rep to go before I can plant Songbell seeds
18:52.13Killa778ok
18:52.14Killa778so
18:52.15Killa778Ladies
18:52.20Killa778Help me save a variable :(
18:52.36Semlar#SavedVariable name in the toc file
18:52.40Maldiviaadd the name to the .toc file, restart wow, write to the variable
18:52.54Semlar#SavedVariables
18:53.26Maldiviaalso - it's a good idea to call the variable something with your addon name in it, so the likelyhood of it clashing with another addon is minimal
18:53.42Semlaryeah it makes your variable global
18:54.06GnarfozDagmar: but you're right on track - they're the most efficient thing to plant in any case... if nothing else, you can buy Ironpaw Tokens with them and get something else for that
18:54.34Killa778so #Saved Variable GalleonWatchLS
18:54.46GnarfozGalleon is an asshole
18:54.46Semlar## SavedVariables: GalleonWatchLS
18:54.46Killa778er
18:54.47DagmarFrankly the fastest way to get those seems to be to kill things for it's meat
18:54.51Gnarfoznever home
18:54.58Killa778Gnarfoz im hopefully making him less of an asshole (just killed him )
18:55.06Gnarfoznever even seen him
18:55.09Dagmar100 bloody vegetables or 20 bloody meat or fish?  Easy choice to make
18:55.21Killa778just spawned on blackrock
18:55.33Killa7781 hour and 22 minutes and 30 seconds ago exactly
18:55.34Gnarfozwell, nice for Blackrock, then
18:55.35Gnarfoz:D
18:55.43DagmarI finally realized what the point of those groceries were and started clearing some mailbox space with a vengeance
18:55.47Semlarthe variable isn't available until ADDON_LOADED for your addon
18:56.08Killa778yes but the Addon_LOADED comes rather quickly
18:56.10Killa778correct?
18:56.17Maldiviacorrect
18:56.25Semlarprematurely
18:56.26Maldiviabefore you see the world
18:56.37NeffiVARIABLES_LOADED fires right after all ADDON_LOADED
18:56.44Neffialso just before the worl
18:56.44Neffid
18:56.48Killa778so okay
18:56.51Killa778I can replace..
18:56.54Killa778lastSeen
18:56.59Killa778With GalleonWatchLS
18:57.02Maldiviayeah
18:57.28Dark_Elfor GWLS lol
18:57.38Killa778Meh
18:57.39Semlaryou need to put off doing anything until the variable is loaded though
18:57.54Killa778it will only call the variable if somone $GWLS's u
18:58.03Killa778or if galleon is shouting
18:58.05Semlarokay then it doesn't really matter
18:58.12Killa778The chances of eithe happening are slim :P
18:58.19Semlarthat's good enough for me!
18:58.37Killa778Any idea how that code i got for the Spawn timer
18:58.40Killa778currently..
18:58.43Killa778actually caught his spawn? :P
18:59.10Killa778Like.. Actually recorded it to that variable.. its still spitting out the same time
19:00.08Semlari don't know, your code shouldn't work at all
19:01.40Semlarif anything your date function should be returning the current time
19:02.55Semlarmaybe you set lastSeen to something manually at some point
19:03.28Ressyno.. His original was lastSeen = time();
19:03.46Semlarwell there you go
19:03.50RessyHe must not have /rl'd until after the kill, bringing in the new code. Long enough for it to write to the var
19:04.21Killa778Idk.
19:04.22Semlartrying to call date(" %m-%d-%y %H:%M:%S", GetGameTime) will actually just error out which is essentially what your current code does
19:04.42Semlartrying to call trying to call date(" %m-%d-%y %H:%M:%S", GetGameTime()) would result in the epoch because it's not a valid time stamp
19:05.02RessyUse 2 vars, 1 with game time, 1 with date.
19:05.17Killa778it is lastSeen Time
19:05.18Killa778:P
19:05.19Semlarno
19:05.19Killa778Not GGT
19:05.23Semlarjust use GetTime()
19:05.24Killa778In my current thing
19:05.32Semlaryou have no reason to store an actual date
19:05.53Killa778GalleonWatchLS = time();
19:05.57Killa778And yes, i do.
19:06.01Killa7783 days worth of spawn time
19:06.03Ressywhy? Doesn't galleon have multi-day spawn?
19:06.06Killa778Yes
19:06.10Killa7786 hours to 90 hours
19:06.14Ressyalso, gettime gets the computer time.
19:06.18Ressynot the server's time.
19:06.22Semlarit doesn't matter
19:06.22Killa778computer time = UTC
19:06.24Killa778So it doesnt matter
19:06.25Semlarhe's counting 3 days into the future
19:06.30Killa778Not really
19:06.32Killa778At all
19:06.35Killa778This is just because
19:06.38Killa778Everyone ALWAYS asks
19:06.43Killa778WHEN WAS GALLONS LAST SPAWN?!
19:06.43Killa778OMFG
19:06.45Killa778all the time
19:06.55Killa778This will allow them to just $GWLS and get the exact time
19:06.59Killa778and date
19:07.01Semlarthen you call GetTime again, compare it to the last value and you have seconds since the last spawn..
19:07.22Killa778Yeah... that'd be nice.
19:07.24Semlaryou can subtract that from your current date and get his actual spawn time if you want
19:07.31Killa778It's taken me 9 hours to just do this
19:07.32Semlari see zero reason for you to be storing a date
19:07.40RessyGetTime is the wrong API
19:07.49Killa778His spawn is random tho
19:07.53Killa778anywhere from 6 hours to 90
19:07.55Ressy"Returns the system uptime of your computer in seconds, with millisecond precision. "
19:07.59Killa778so there is no way to actually call his exact time
19:08.08Killa778the further the way u are from when he spawned
19:08.12Killa778The more the odds are in your favor
19:08.22Killa778Now question
19:08.30Killa778once i restart i know im going to lose the currently saved spawn time
19:08.43Killa778is there any way for me to go ahead and rig it up
19:08.46Killa778with the current spawn time?
19:08.50Ressyyou can explicitly write it.
19:09.05Ressythen remove the line with a /rl
19:09.23Killa778No idea what u just said but ill look into it :D
19:09.30Killa778Okay so let me do one more checkover
19:10.21Killa778"Galleon's Last Spawn was at" .. date(" %m-%d-%y %H:%M:%S" .. "Time is in UTC-24 Hour Format, Please convert it yourself"
19:10.23Killa778Does that work
19:10.26Killa778or do i not need the .. there
19:10.49Krapsy"Please convert it yourself"
19:10.53Krapsyrude
19:11.06Killa778Wah.
19:11.11Krapsyso rude
19:11.12Semlaryou don't need to concat the strings
19:11.22Semlarbut why don't you just say how long it's been since his last spawn instead of the date
19:11.32Killa778Cause i dont know how :(
19:11.33Killa778lol
19:11.34Semlarthen it won't matter
19:11.46Semlaryou could say "He spawned 3 hours ago"
19:12.17Killa778Well yea but i dont know how to return that
19:12.23Killa778I can see that actually would be better tho.
19:13.09Jammerlol nice just did /reload at start of arena match and dominos buttons disappeared completely :D
19:13.10MaldiviaKilla778: secondsSinceLastISawIt = time() - lastSeen
19:13.24Killa778<PROTECTED>
19:14.07Semlarapparently both time and GetTime are based on your computer so i'm thinking the best idea would be to generate a timestamp from the server time if you can
19:14.21RessygetGameTime
19:14.31Killa778Still idgaf
19:14.32SemlarGetGameTime only returns the current hour and minutes
19:14.33RessyReturns the current server time in hours and minutes
19:14.35Killa778computer time is safer
19:14.44Killa778cause its utc... everyones is the same
19:14.49Killa778u dont run into server time diffrences
19:14.51Semlarit doesn't matter
19:15.01Semlartime zones don't factor into this at all
19:15.02Killa778GetGameTime doesnt pull utc does it, it pulls server time
19:15.15Gnarfoz!api getgametime
19:15.15lua_botGetGameTime: Returns the current realm (server) time (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetGameTime)
19:15.21LopeppeppyMmm, sheeple barbeque for dinner.
19:15.24Semlaryou're comparing two dates relative to each other
19:15.33Gnarfoznot that that matters
19:15.39Gnarfozyou're comparing that to another snapshot of that
19:15.41Gnarfozso bleh
19:16.05Semlari mean for his goal not necessarily using that function
19:17.49Killa778http://pastebin.com/TgSBEFtr
19:18.09Killa778How does that look
19:18.13Ressywon't work
19:18.19Killa778Why not?
19:18.27Semlarhow many times do i have to say you need to use parentheses to actually call the function
19:18.39Killa77810 more :(
19:18.53Killa778The function would be the local im using right?
19:18.58LopeppeppyPunctuation truly matters. *tragic sigh*
19:19.07Krapsy!api test
19:19.07lua_botFound 9 possible results for 'test': GetLatestCompletedComparisonAchievements, GetLatestThreeSenders, GetLatestUpdatedStats, GetMuteStatus, CalendarContextInviteStatus, GetLatestCompletedAchievements, StatusBar:SetRotatesTexture, StatusBar:GetRotatesTexture, GetLatestUpdatedComparisonStats
19:19.19Krapsyhaha
19:19.29Krapsywow that thing is thorough
19:19.56Killa778<PROTECTED>
19:19.59Ressyno
19:20.05Killa778shoots himself
19:20.10Ressysec
19:20.29Semlari mean where you have GalleonWatchLS = GetGameTime;
19:20.42Semlaryou are literally saying GalleonWatchLS is now the function GetGameTime
19:20.53Semlarnot the result of GetGameTime()
19:21.01Semlarthe function itself
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19:22.06Killa778er i still aint fixed that
19:22.11Semlari was going to say use a combination of CalendarGetDate and GetGameTime to generate a timestamp but apparently GetGameTime could change based on your zone so i don't know how the hell you're supposed to store an accurate time
19:22.27RessyIt grabs server time.
19:22.29Killa778it should be GalleonWatchLS = time();
19:22.39Semlari want the server time but of his actual server
19:22.50Ressyuh huh..
19:22.57Ressyyou're thinking about CRZ?
19:23.06Semlarsince using your computer's time would be unreliable
19:23.19Killa778why would it be unreliable, i've heard both sides
19:23.27RessyMy question is how can GetGameTime be unreliable?
19:23.28Semlarbecause you can change your computer's time
19:23.41Ressy?
19:23.44RessyGetGameTime is from servers.
19:23.54Semlarthat was in response to the previous message
19:23.58Ressyah
19:24.21SemlarGetGameTime is unreliable because it is based on the server you're currently standing in which means instances or whatever will make it NOT return YOUR server's time
19:24.41RessyIts set by the person on your realm who sees Galleon spawn
19:24.44Semlarand if it's inconsistent it could be off by hours
19:24.47Ressythen propegates.
19:24.58Killa778Not yet ressy
19:25.05RessyPlanning on it.
19:25.11Killa778yeah a 2.0 feature
19:25.22Killa778Here's my logic on that
19:25.34Killa778It will search to see if you join a raid of players on your server
19:25.46Killa778if you join a raid of players on your server it will push the latest kill timer to everyone with the addon
19:25.54Killa778otherwise it will end
19:26.39Killa778My logic is this on teh time()
19:26.50Killa778Your connected to the internet to play wow
19:26.58Killa778Windows alert's you if time is incorrect
19:27.12Killa778The spawn timer being off by 2-30 minutes isnt THAT big of a deal
19:27.42Maldiviamost OSes automatically corrects the computer time if it's off, so yeah
19:28.11Semlarokay, well if it were me i would be using the server time
19:28.29Semlarespecially since you're pushing the timestamp to everyone else
19:28.33Killa778Not yet
19:28.36Ressynods
19:28.41Ressyserver time is best.
19:28.42Killa778i dont have the skills to do that yet
19:28.48Ressy?
19:28.59Killa778But i will eventually once i can do the workaround the CRZ
19:28.59Ressyserver time is easy
19:29.05Ressylike, seriously easy.
19:29.11Killa778If its broke dont fix it :(
19:29.13Killa778Er
19:29.18Neffiserver time varies
19:29.18Killa778if it works dont fix it lmfao
19:29.29Nefficross-realm zones, battlegrounds, etc all skew the server time
19:29.37Neffidepending on which server you're placed on
19:29.45Killa778All it would take is one person to be in a CRZ of Valley, Galleon spawns
19:29.46Semlari'm pretty sure you could set it up in a way to detect the difference from your server and the instanced ones by storing a few values
19:29.48RessyGalleon is only your main server's time.
19:29.51Killa778They go back to Blackrock / home server
19:29.58Semlari'm just not sure on the logic
19:29.59Killa778Somone $GWLS's them
19:30.01Killa778False info
19:30.06Killa778They set there for 12 hours
19:30.08Killa778get pissed at the addon
19:30.10Killa778uninstall it
19:30.15Neffiyou can but im reminding you that you'll need to consider server time offset
19:30.39Killa778Ressy its not
19:30.45Killa778if ur on a CRZ he will still spawn and emote
19:30.52Killa778Which would be picked up by my event handler
19:31.00Killa778And throw the system off
19:31.12RessyYou should add a function to force update from others then.
19:31.20Ressywhich people should do after doing a CRZ kill.
19:32.01Killa778errr
19:32.15Killa778Even if they forceupdate
19:32.19Killa778How would u handle that?
19:32.43Killa778I mean say that u do forceupdate it.. If your time is 5pm and the servers actual time was 19 hours ago
19:33.05Killa778Theres no distinguishing your realms vs a crz
19:33.25Semlarfor one thing crz aren't more than a few hours apart
19:33.33Ressy3
19:33.47Semlarso at most it'll be 3 hours off
19:33.47Killa778Oceanic ones are
19:33.49Killa778more .. alot more
19:33.51RessyNope
19:34.10RessyCan you CRZ with Oceanic if you're not?
19:34.10Semlarcrz will not allow servers more than a few hours apart from merging
19:34.16Killa778yes u can
19:34.21RessyOnly if you invite I think?
19:34.22Killa778Ive crz'd to a oceanic
19:34.24Killa778Yeah
19:34.35Killa778idk about others but blackrock is heavily aussie players
19:34.44Killa778i can see them joining oceanic friends.
19:34.44RessyAdd a function to wipe out the last galleon sighting, and then request from others.
19:34.48Semlari don't know about being manually invited to one
19:35.13Killa778You really think player's are going to be that smart to know when they came out of the CRZ
19:35.19Killa778instead of pushing false data :(
19:35.35Semlari'm pretty sure all you would have to do is store a few relative time values when you log in
19:35.55Semlarassuming you can somehow make sure it's your server
19:36.07Krapsythe game should indicate when you are crz'd
19:36.16Killa778Should, but it dont.
19:36.56Semlaryou could store like GetTime and the server time and compare the difference, then when you zoned GetTime would stay consistent and you could compare the difference to the new zone's GetGameTime
19:37.18Semlaryou know what i mean?
19:37.30Killa778so .. Gettime.. when u ADDON_LOAD
19:38.01Killa778Then.. on ZONE_CHANGED_NEW_AREA $Realtime-$GetTime > 3 hours end
19:39.15durcynyou're going to have fun with ZONE_CHANGED_NEW_AREA.  lots of it.
19:39.54Killa778would it be possible to GetGameTime every 5 minutes unless a ZONE_CHANGED_NEW_AREA has occured within the past 30 seconds
19:40.05Killa778Without being very heavy on the server side ?
19:41.38Semlari call GetTime multiple times a second in one of my addons
19:41.56Semlaralthough now i think it's cached
19:42.01karl_w_wthat sounds pointless
19:42.09Semlaryou're pointless
19:42.17karl_w_wyou're too kind
19:42.24Semlaryou're too kind
19:42.26Killa778ok semlar
19:42.27Semlarwait
19:42.45Killa778http://pastebin.com/index/dGij1mRv <-- how does this look (IT still doenst use GetGameTime) im just asking about the reporting function specifcally
19:42.50Killa778Will it report the time since last kill
19:44.16SemlarHe spawned" .. (GalleonsLastSpawn) "Ago." you're missing a concat after the variable
19:45.03Semlar.. GalleonsLastSpawn ..
19:46.07durcyni'd suggest string.format over concatenation, but both work
19:46.11Killa778Do i need the parenthesis around GalleonLastSpawn
19:46.11Semlaryou might be missing an END somewhere too because i know you have this indented wrong
19:46.34Semlaryour elseif msg == "$GWLS" then block should be over another tab
19:46.36Killa778hey sem.. remember my first one
19:46.41durcynno, you only  need parens if there are subsequent returns you want to ignore
19:46.41Killa778Its indented alot better now aint it :(
19:46.52Semlaryes
19:47.11Killa778no end is missing either
19:47.18Killa778Its showing correct in Notepad++
19:47.21Semlarin case you didn't know, you can usually highlight multiple lines and tab them over together
19:47.48Semlaroh, you just don't have the elseif over
19:47.52Semlari see
19:48.29Semlarits end is in the right place
19:49.37Killa778SendChatMessage("Galleon's was killed at" .. date(" %m-%d-%y %H:%M:%S" "UTC Time. He spawned" .. GalleonsLastSpawn .. "Ago.", GalleonWatchLS), "WHISPER", nil, sender); should return everything correct now then right
19:49.44GnarfozGalleon's?
19:49.50Killa778lol!
19:49.52Killa778Thanks
19:50.03Gnarfozalso, you're missing spaces all over the place :)
19:50.04Killa778Should there be a ) around M D Y H M S
19:50.42Gnarfozhaven't been following this really, but
19:50.47Killa778and should there be a concat between %S" and "UTC TIME"
19:50.55Gnarfozdoes date() do what you're trying to do
19:51.04Killa778yes
19:51.05Killa778it does
19:51.16Gnarfozit lets you feed a formatstring and a variable into it?
19:51.21Gnarfozand it will spit out a formatted string?
19:51.23RessyHe hasn't tested any of this.
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19:51.37Gnarfozkind of getting that feeling, yeah :D
19:51.49Mr_Rabiesargh
19:51.59Killa778SendChatMessage("Galleon's was killed at" .. date(" %m-%d-%y %H:%M:%S", GalleonWatchLS) " UTC Time. He spawned" .. GalleonsLastSpawn .. "Ago.", GalleonWatchLS), "WHISPER", nil, sender); There we go
19:52.01Mr_Rabiestrade chat's dead right now :|
19:52.06Gnarfozjust /dump <what you're trying to do>   a couple of times, you'll figure it out quickly
19:52.08Lopeppeppywashes Unkle with Borax.
19:52.13Mr_Rabiestrying to get into a sha group, no one in chat
19:53.01GnarfozMr_Rabies: http://i.imgur.com/a5zUG.jpg
19:53.12Mr_Rabiesi wish
19:53.13Mr_Rabies:(
19:53.14Killa778Does there need to be a concat tho between GalleonWatchLS) and " UTC Time..etc"
19:53.33GnarfozKilla778: just try it out? :D
19:53.51Semlaryes
19:53.57Killa778okay
19:54.14Killa778Now how do i manually set the variable GalleonWatchLS >.< to a certain "date"
19:54.27Semlaryou are making a very confusing string
19:54.54SemlarGalleonWatchLS = whatever
19:54.56Killa778I will get the confusion out of it once i get it done
19:55.00Gnarfozdoubtful
19:55.09Killa778Can i just do that by a /run?
19:55.14Semlaryes
19:55.16Gnarfozthe confusion is sending you places you shouldn't even need to go
19:55.27Mr_Rabiesi can't help but think of gaogaigar everytime galleon is mentioned
19:55.29Killa778There's 2 things i want it to report on $GWLS
19:55.50Killa778It needs to report the time in UTC (First half) and the time in hours:min:sec since then.. (GalleonLastSpawn
19:56.04Killa778Because people will say "Its been 5 hours since last spawn" they will be like LOL PROOF
19:56.15Killa778It needs to be right there concrete in there face, yes it was then
19:56.29Gnarfozthey'll still doubt you, you know.
19:56.50karl_w_wwhy would it ever matter when it last spawned? :P
19:57.07Gnarfozbecause that + average time to kill it = you know when it's going to be back, approximately
19:57.20Gnarfozalso, he wants to track actual death time, so he'd know pretty precisely
19:57.55Gnarfozalso, he wants to track actual death time, so he'd know pretty precisely
19:58.01Gnarfozblergh fatfinger'd
19:58.01Killa778it does that already
19:58.03karl_w_wok ok :P
19:58.16Killa778since he has a Death MONSTER_YELL
19:58.26Killa778and the variable is set in the Announce() function
19:58.36Killa778The last time he announces (when he dies) it is saved
19:58.58Killa778and it will not be overwrote until he spawns again!
19:58.59Killa778:D
19:59.23karl_w_wor you CRZ.
19:59.33Killa778chances of it happening are slim
19:59.41Killa778and the playerbase of this for V1.0 are only going to be beta basicly
19:59.43Killa778my guild
19:59.59Killa778in 2.0 i will launch it widespread
20:00.11Killa778The $GWLS works for everyone on the server
20:00.38Gnarfozjust lock out the timer for 2 days at least, should negate a lot of CRZ  possibilities. ;p
20:00.43Mr_Rabiesi've yet to see galleon, living or dead
20:00.54Killa778he can spawn as soon as 6 hours
20:00.58Killa778and ive seen him do it frequently
20:01.02GnarfozMr_Rabies: same. It's always up when I'm at work, and dead minutes later.  ^^
20:01.05Killa778lol he was up earlier today and the addon went off like crazy
20:01.06Mr_Rabiesi really wish he'd have a sooner spawn
20:01.16GnarfozKilla778: eh? 3 days
20:01.25Killa7786 hours - 90 hours
20:01.26Gnarfozif you've seen him earlier, CRZ
20:01.27Killa778Is  his spawn gnar
20:01.33Mr_Rabiesi thought it was ~36 hours
20:01.39Killa778Ive seen him spawn 3 time in a day on blackrock
20:01.51Killa778Then he didnt spawn for 2 more days
20:01.54Killa778Then 3 days
20:01.55Killa778lol
20:01.57Gnarfozhow can you know you weren't in a merged zone
20:01.58karl_w_wthe issue with galleon is not that he spawns slowly, it's that by the time you know he's spawned he's dead
20:02.01durcynwhat?  his normal spwawn's supposed to be 48 hours
20:02.13Semlaryeah how do you know you weren't just on different servers
20:02.16Killa778invite only  in pandaria
20:02.16Gnarfoznot that there's any *official* info on spawn times :D
20:02.23Mr_Rabiesi wish they'd put him on the same kind of timer as sha
20:02.24Killa778Also u can check using ip's.
20:02.30Killa778u can actually use ipblockers and turn CRZ off ;)
20:02.37durcynMr_Rabies: he doesn't have a loot lockout at the moment
20:02.43RessyNot recommended at all.
20:02.47Gnarfozwho gives a shit
20:02.49Gnarfoz:p
20:02.55Mr_Rabiesso you can keep killing him over and over in the same week durcyn?
20:03.04Mr_Rabiesand getting loot?
20:03.07Killa778Who, Galleon?
20:03.12Ressyno. You can only get loot once a week
20:03.13durcynyeah, that's why they restricted CRZ looting on him
20:03.17durcynincorrect.
20:03.24durcynsha has a weekly loot lockout, galleon does not.
20:03.29GnarfozMr_Rabies: still has to be on your realm, though
20:03.47Mr_Rabiesyeah
20:03.53durcynthe justification for this is that his normal spawn timers have him up 2-3 times a week
20:03.58Mr_Rabiesthat just means the big raid guild's gonna get him every time and no one's ever gonna know he's up
20:03.59Mr_Rabies:(
20:04.08GnarfozMr_Rabies: that's just what happens, hehe
20:04.19Gnarfozdurcyn: what's the data basis for that 48 hour claim?
20:04.24durcynin most civilized places that means massive zerg raids and semi-organized tag sharing, i think we had something like 200 people looting him earlier today
20:04.44durcynGnarfoz: observation
20:05.02Gnarfozso it's just as good a guess as the others
20:05.15Mr_Rabiesthere's just one guild on our server that kills him each time
20:05.20Mr_Rabiesthey have 5-6 raid groups
20:05.21durcynGnarfoz: http://pastebin.com/dhfXD4ey
20:05.23Gnarfozand I wish regarding "civilized places"... on my realm it's just "GO AWAY, WORLD TOP 100 ONLY, GTFO"
20:06.47Gnarfozwell, that's some data at last
20:06.48Killa77810-23-12 13:53:30
20:06.49durcynthe 10/22 one was a weird fluke after a restart, everything else is 2 days or multiples thereof
20:06.55Killa778okay.. so thats the Date and time galleon was killed.
20:06.59Killa778(Returned value)
20:07.16Killa778So.. /run GalleonWatchLS = 10-23-12 13:53:30
20:07.26GnarfozKilla778: ironic: using UTC but still doing the "month first" thing :P
20:07.27Killa778Thats what i need to do to set the variable after i add it as a global?
20:07.40karl_w_wit's already a global
20:07.44Gnarfoz(or: 24h time but month first, pick your poison :D)
20:07.48Killa778Erm
20:07.52Killa778maybne i mispoke
20:07.54Killa778Permanant
20:07.57Killa778in the toc
20:08.09Killa778the way so it saves it (which it CURRENTLY is not in the one i still have opened up )
20:08.21Killa778okay let me just rephrase that too..
20:08.27Gnarfozadd it to ## savedvariables
20:08.35karl_w_wyeah those saved variables are just variables like anything else :P
20:08.37Killa778I have, the kill i have ingame right now.
20:08.53Killa778Doesnt have it added to the Toc Savedvariables yet
20:08.59Killa778I just added that, and i have to restart
20:09.07Killa778which means im going to lose the current local variable
20:09.19Killa778of the time i killed him (And i would like to  just manually put it back in )
20:09.36Killa778Because it'll be a while before Galleon is seen again for me to just rip it the correct way
20:09.55karl_w_wassuming that's the correct format, yes
20:11.55Killa778here we go
20:13.01Killa778yay i broke something
20:13.14Killa778punches a fucking baby.
20:13.54Cairenn><
20:14.13Killa778blah
20:14.21karl_w_wyou shouldn't punch babies
20:14.25karl_w_wwhile they're fucking
20:14.28SemlarCAIRENN http://i.imgur.com/4vyGC.jpg which one
20:14.50Killa778@karl i love u
20:15.40karl_w_wSemlar why is the circle so small in the second one
20:15.54Killa778faded edge
20:16.01Semlarbecause the mask is fading from the sides
20:16.05Killa778and.. Unexpected symbol.. great
20:16.10Semlarno way to make it bigger than the minimap
20:16.21karl_w_wyou need to fade better then :P
20:16.44Semlaroh?
20:16.49karl_w_whas no idea how you even do fading like that in wow
20:16.54CairennI kind of like the far right one
20:16.57Cairennshrugs
20:17.18Cairennmiddle one would be my second choice
20:17.28karl_w_wfade faster or something
20:17.29Cootekarl_w_w: It's easy. You sacrifice a goat, and do some old timey black magic.
20:17.32Semlarnobody likes the one on the left
20:17.35Killa778im weird i liek the first
20:17.40karl_w_wlol
20:17.43Killa778:P
20:17.52Killa778I think it just seems more kinda Boundried
20:18.00Semlarthe left one is also my favorite
20:18.09karl_w_w2nd if it wasnt so small > 3rd > 2nd how it is > 1st
20:18.14Semlari think it looks better in the game though
20:18.17Killa778Semlar
20:18.28Killa778Could u maybe fade the edges of black out a bit towards the map
20:18.32Killa778Not inward outward
20:18.37Semlaryes
20:18.42Killa778it might make the left one look a bit more appealing
20:18.47Killa778cause instead of a HARD black line it would be soft
20:18.52Killa778Nobody likes hard black things.
20:19.08Semlari'd have to draw a new border
20:19.21Killa778you could use my logic.
20:19.23CooteI think there's a joke in there, but Cairenn would have my head for it. :P
20:19.31Semlarbut i could put a ring around it without sacrificing anything
20:19.31karl_w_wdo it
20:19.32karl_w_wdoooo it
20:20.05karl_w_wyes, put a ring around the hard black thing
20:20.07Cootehides under the desk.
20:21.05Semlarbasically making an inner shadow makes it look like the minimap portion is "below" the map, putting a drop shadow around it would make it appear to be above
20:21.41Killa778Okay so....
20:21.43karl_w_wnot to me
20:21.46Killa778!os.time
20:21.49Killa778:(
20:21.51Killa778Whats that comand
20:21.55Killa778!os.time()
20:22.01karl_w_wto me the shadow inside makes it look like a bubble
20:22.10karl_w_whttp://www.wowpedia.org/Lua_functions
20:22.10Killa778Somone do it and make the bot return me a value on time
20:22.21Killa778No no, okay so.. when i do
20:22.29Killa778the command ingame
20:22.31Killa778its returning
20:23.45Killa778To [Tsulong]: Galleon's was killed at 10-23-12 16:20:10 UTC Time. He spawned1351023610Ago. [G
20:23.56karl_w_wtime(table) - Returns time in seconds since epoch (00:00:00 Jan 1 1970)
20:24.03g0urraspeaking of Galleon
20:24.07Killa778its returning the current time because i've yet to be able to convert it ino that
20:24.12g0urrahe just spawned and some douche shaman pulled him
20:24.22g0urradespawned and the shaman self ressed
20:24.33karl_w_wI never realised shammies were douches.
20:24.34Semlarkarl_w_w: http://i.imgur.com/7YwQ2.jpg this one looks like a bubble
20:24.42karl_w_wI guess that's what riptide is for
20:25.13karl_w_wSemlar: even more so
20:25.15Semlaror a lens
20:25.29Semlari don't think anyone liked it
20:32.19Killa778Okay so
20:32.24Killa778i got it setup
20:32.26Killa778the old variable works
20:33.51Killa778local GalleonsLastSpawn = (time() - GalleonSpawnLS)
20:33.53Killa778Is that correct?
20:33.57Killa778Does that make it so...
20:34.21Killa778The LastSpawn Variable = to Galleon's Spawn minus the current time
20:34.44Killa778Wells hould prolly switch GalleonSpawnLS with time()
20:34.51Semlarthat gives you the time since the last kill
20:35.09Killa778right?
20:35.11Killa778i mean the syntax is correct tho
20:35.18Killa778(i did it by myself..) Parenthesis etc
20:35.19Semlarcurrent time - last time
20:35.37Semlaryou don't need parentheses around it
20:35.46Killa778but i do need a ; after it
20:35.46Killa778right
20:35.50Semlarnope
20:36.06karl_w_wdestroy all semicolons
20:36.06Semlarsemicolons are pretty much never required
20:37.01bleeterwho wants to feel old? Reservoir Dogs was released 20 years ago today
20:37.22durcynwell, that workdd.
20:37.25durcyned*
20:37.29Killa778Message: Interface\AddOns\GalleonWatch\GalleonWatch.lua:27: attempt to perform arithmetic on global 'GalleonSpawnLS' (a nil value)
20:37.30Killa778o.O
20:37.44Semlaryou have to set it
20:37.53durcynKilla778: did you restart after changing the toc, and did you actually initialize the variable?
20:38.39Killa778Yes i did
20:38.40karl_w_wput GalleonSpawnLS = 0 at the top
20:38.48karl_w_wof the addon
20:38.55durcynno
20:39.01durcynGalleonSpawnLS = GalleonSpawnLS or 0
20:39.14Killa778I know the last spawn = 1351014810
20:39.17Killa778thats when he spawned last
20:39.22Killa778from epoch
20:39.25karl_w_wno, the addon loads before saved variables are loaded
20:39.39durcynshould be in a PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD handler then.
20:39.45Killa778Erm
20:39.47karl_w_wu dont need to check, GalleonSpawnLS will always be nil when the lua file is read
20:40.16Semlarif you were watching for an event player_entering_world would not be it
20:40.24Semlarit would be addon_loaded
20:40.29Killa778the only time the variable is called
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20:40.32durcynand don't try to act on it until you've got variables.
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20:40.33Killa778is when somone $GWLS's u
20:40.37durcynSemlar: PEW works just as well.
20:40.41Killa778and / or Galleon is yelling
20:41.00Killa778addon has loaded and i $GWLS
20:41.11Semlaras far as i know pew has zero to do with the addon variables so i wouldn't rely on that
20:41.26Killa778attempt to perform arithmetic on global 'GalleonSpawnLS' (a nil value)  o.O so yeah
20:41.38karl_w_wbecause it is a nil value.
20:41.43Semlaraddons can definitely load after you've logged in
20:41.45durcynVARIABLES_LOADED/ADDON_LOADED doesn't guarantee valid returns from API functions anywhere near as reliably as PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD
20:41.46Killa778I even just went and did /run GalleonWatchLS = 1351014810
20:42.02Killa778then tried to $GWLS it gave the error
20:42.11Semlaraddon_loaded will not fire unless your savedvariables are available..
20:42.25karl_w_wnew paste Killa778
20:43.27karl_w_wthe game handles saved variables, u don't need to use any event trickery
20:44.03Semlaryou do if you want to know when you can use the variable
20:44.12Killa778http://pastebin.com/GFrFQ3gy
20:44.21Killa778Theres the newest pastie
20:44.24karl_w_wyes Semlar, but he doesn't
20:44.37Killa778The variable shouldnt be called before its needed
20:44.42Killa778before its loaded
20:44.43Semlari know not for this case
20:44.51Killa778i understand ur side tho
20:44.59Killa778I dont understand tho why its returning nil
20:45.16Semlarbecause it hasn't been set before you're trying to call it
20:45.17Killa778Message: Interface\AddOns\GalleonWatch\GalleonWatch.lua:27: attempt to perform arithmetic on global 'GalleonSpawnLS' (a nil value) Time: 10/23/12 16:44:40 Count: 42 Stack: [C]: ? Interface\AddOns\GalleonWatch\GalleonWatch.lua:27: in function <Interface\AddOns\GalleonWatch\GalleonWatch.lua:14>  Locals:
20:45.25Killa778I set it o.O
20:45.32foxlit"Elodin Enterprises – We make tomorrow’s mistakes possible today!"
20:45.35Killa778And i have reloaded
20:45.43karl_w_wlol
20:45.55karl_w_wreloading clears variables
20:46.18SemlarGalleonSpawnLS is not defined, period, in your code
20:46.32karl_w_whe did it with a /run
20:46.36karl_w_wand then reloaded
20:47.05karl_w_wi dont think savedvariables saves on a reload if it hasn't been saved before
20:47.07Killa778Erm.. its not defined period.. at all.. meaning
20:47.23Semlarmeaning you don't have GalleonSpawnLS = anything
20:47.37SeerahMeaning the ONLY place I see GalleonSpawnLS in your pastey is on line 72.
20:47.38Killa778I do but its in the Announce()
20:47.45Semlarno you don't
20:47.49Killa778line 7
20:47.54Semlaryou have GalleonWatchLS = time()
20:47.56Killa778oh derp
20:47.57karl_w_wjust put GalleonSpawnLS = 0 at the top, and log out
20:48.00karl_w_wand back in
20:48.07karl_w_wthen do your /run
20:48.10karl_w_wand continue
20:49.03Killa778let me see first
20:49.14Killa778i kinda.. had.. GalleonSpawn instead of GalleonWatch
20:49.16Killa778blushes
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20:49.40karl_w_wdoesn't matter, the one in the announce won't run until it announces :P
20:50.21Killa778:P
20:50.27Killa778To [Tsulong]: Galleon's was killed at 10-23-12 13:53:30 UTC Time. He spawned10583Ago. <--
20:50.40Killa778I still need to do GalleonSpawnLS = 0
20:51.14Dark_Elflocal GalleonSpawnLS = 0 at top :p
20:51.16karl_w_wand put some spaces around that, and change the Ago to an ago
20:51.31karl_w_wand destroy all semicolons :P
20:51.36Killa778date(" %m-%d-%y %H:%M:%S", GalleonsLastSpawn) <--- Will that make it say
20:51.42Killa778instead of 10583
20:51.46Killa778The MDY?
20:51.48Killa778and time
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20:52.40karl_w_wthere's a function but I forgot it
20:53.25karl_w_whttp://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/SecondsToTime
20:58.14Dark_Elfthink i would do f:RegisterEvent("PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD") instead of addon_loaded, if event == "PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD" then DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage("GalleonWatch V1.0 by Tsulong - Blackrock Loaded!", 0, 0, 1) elseif (but thats just my unworthy opinion)
20:58.19Killa778Well
20:58.26Killa778The Date(") did
20:58.47Killa778im not modifying anything in the chat frame
20:58.52Killa778just using it to pull info from
20:58.54Killa778its a zonewide event
20:59.11GnarfozI'd do no chat spam on addon load, :P
20:59.24Killa778I've talked with  sylv :P
20:59.53Killa778im trying to find my error now
20:59.54Killa778i did this
21:00.18Killa778http://pastebin.com/2ETnwxAc
21:00.21Killa778It now error's with
21:00.40karl_w_wPEW fires any time you see a loading screen
21:00.43Killa778terface\AddOns\GalleonWatch\GalleonWatch.lua:34: attempt to concatenate a nil value
21:02.21Killa778i take it i cant modify whats inside of Date("")
21:02.41Semlarno that means you're attempting to concatenate a variable that doesn't exist
21:03.12karl_w_wjust do SecondsToTime(GalleonsLastSpawn, false, true, 3)
21:03.21karl_w_winstead of date
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21:03.50Dark_Elflocal GalleonsLastSpawn = 0 at top
21:04.44Killa778i caught that right as u mentioned it
21:04.52Killa778was hung ont hat old variable
21:05.04Dark_Elfnevermind i see it localized later my bad
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21:06.59Killa778## SavedVariables: GalleonLastSpawn
21:07.03Killa778in .toc
21:07.04Killa778right
21:07.23Dark_Elfwell u got to have it in toc yes
21:08.51SeerahAnd you can't just add it to the toc while the game is running
21:08.58Killa778i know that
21:08.59Killa778lol
21:09.22Killa778i switched 2 things around
21:09.25Killa778it was sorta working before that
21:09.29Killa778(returning at least)
21:09.31Killa778And i switched
21:09.44Killa778local GalleonsLastSpawn = GalleonWatchLS - time()
21:09.46SeerahI don't know what you know :p
21:09.50Killa778erm..
21:10.01Killa778local GalleonsLastSpawn = time() - GalleonWatchLS
21:10.05Killa778with local GalleonsLastSpawn = GalleonWatchLS - time()
21:10.19Killa778Because the value it was giving Time would always be greater than GalleonWatchLS
21:10.26nebula169not sure why you're writing a mod for that, he can spawn again in an hour or be down for days
21:10.30Killa778derp
21:10.47Killa778You dont even know this is just a small function of the addon im writing
21:10.50Killa778And its 6-90 hours.
21:10.53Killa778from the time he spawns
21:10.56karl_w_wsaved variables have to be global
21:11.13karl_w_welse how is the client going to read them :P
21:11.16Killa778GalleonWatchLS is the only thing that needs to be saved
21:11.28SeerahThen why is this your saved variable? GalleonLastSpawn
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21:12.34Killa778because ima  noob
21:12.39Killa778:P i just changed everything back
21:12.47karl_w_wanyone else getting non-specific "An error has occurred." on ptr character copy?
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21:14.29mckenziemc1o.o
21:14.39karl_w_whttp://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/6893609562 apparently yes
21:16.37Killa778hmmm
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21:16.59foxlitVlad|: I saw your error report. I rate you 2/10.
21:17.06Vlad|:P
21:17.09foxlits/error report/ticket/
21:17.39Vlad|foxlit: it's just so obvious I didn't wanna make it too detailed :P
21:17.40foxlitYes, you should provide a list of items that are not showing up for you.
21:17.42karl_w_whttp://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/6893609562?page=2#35 <- gotta love those special ed kids
21:18.02Killa778okay so now im  back to concentrating or whatever..
21:18.02foxlitfwiw, I haven't noticed *anything* missing while levelling to 90.
21:18.06Vlad|foxlit the items are properly tagged "quest item"
21:18.17Vlad|so weird they didn't show up :/
21:18.33Vlad|I can find it, sec
21:19.17Killa778somone
21:19.26Killa778F***in kill me.
21:19.54Killa778http://pastebin.com/gLRN7FWX
21:20.04Killa778Message: Interface\AddOns\GalleonWatch\GalleonWatch.lua:33: attempt to concatenate a nil value being the error
21:20.52karl_w_wline 33 is elseif msg == "$GWLS" then
21:21.04karl_w_wdid you forget to reload? :P
21:22.08Dark_Elfim dumb, what is GWcheck?
21:22.10Killa778No
21:22.11Killa778ive reloaded
21:22.27Vlad|foxlit:
21:22.32Killa778$GWcheck is a command a guild leader can whisper to make the addon report to guild chat that the guildie has it loaded
21:22.34Vlad|http://www.wowhead.com/item=74771 and http://www.wowhead.com/item=74808
21:22.40Vlad|those two I noticed didn't show on OPie
21:22.42Vlad|so buuu
21:22.51Vlad|they are both tagged quest items and yet they didn't appear :(
21:23.04Vlad|I hope you don't keep an internal list or something :P
21:23.05karl_w_wwell there is no concatenating going on on line 33 so that can't be right
21:23.51Killa778@ carl
21:23.53Killa778Its actually sendchat
21:23.57Killa778in Notepad++
21:24.12foxlitThey showed up for me. Then again, different versions.
21:24.43Killa778Its definatl the SendChatMessage one
21:24.56karl_w_wI bet it's because you're using date instead of secondstotime :P
21:25.18Vlad|using Kiwi 2
21:25.29Vlad|I love how your toc has no build info other than kiwi 2 :P
21:26.03foxlitThat's sufficient.
21:26.31SeerahThe next build will be kiwi 3 :)
21:28.03mckenziemc1nah, Kiwi 2 1/2
21:28.30foxlitI don't usually do fractions.
21:28.32Seerahor kiwi 3/2
21:28.35foxlitBut when I do, it's .87
21:28.37SeerahI mean 5/2
21:28.37foxlits/7//
21:28.44Seerah(I teach mathz!)
21:29.03karl_w_wfractions don't sort well :P
21:29.34foxlitdecimals sort okay, I think
21:29.59karl_w_wyeah
21:30.01foxlitThough not sure, might have to double check that
21:32.11Killa778YAY
21:32.16Killa778Max pastes per day.
21:32.20Killa778shoots self
21:32.30karl_w_wcodepad.org
21:32.39Killa778http://pastie.org/5105643
21:32.52Killa778Okay, First implentation of that when i loaded it
21:32.59Killa778gave me this message
21:33.12Killa778it spit it out, but it just had nothing
21:33.17Killa778like it gave the correct message and his killtime
21:33.31Killa778I set the correct GalleonWatchLS
21:34.09foxlitWorks for me, Vlad|
21:34.28Vlad|strange, something must have happened at some point -^^
21:34.28Killa778And then it error'd out saying ssage: Interface\AddOns\GalleonWatch\GalleonWatch.lua:33: SendChatMessage(): Invalid escape code in chat message
21:34.48Vlad|at rare occasions timestamps disappear from prat too, maybe it has something to do with that :P
21:34.51Vlad|maybe taint related? lol
21:35.11foxlitmaybe Santa-related
21:35.46Killa778okay
21:35.48Killa778reset the variable
21:35.50Killa778to 1353696810
21:35.52Killa778And now i get this
21:36.13Killa778To [Tsulong]: Galleon was last killed at 11-23-12 13:53:30 UTC Time. He died  Ago. <--
21:37.15Killa778Like where SecondsToTime(GalleonsLastSpawn, false, true, 3) is
21:37.21Killa778Its not returning anything
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21:39.29Killa778bashes head against desk
21:39.56karl_w_wDump: value=time() - 1353696810 [1]=-2668415
21:40.13foxlitVlad|: both of the items you liked showed up in the ring for me.
21:40.39Vlad|as I said, maybe it was a weird issue that happens very rarely, maybe taint related.
21:40.49Vlad|for some reason my prat timestamps were gone too, mid session.
21:40.53Vlad|so yeah nvm me :P
21:41.30bleeteroooh http://www.technologyreview.com/news/429722/a-bandwidth-breakthrough/
21:41.55karl_w_wdammit bleeter
21:42.18foxlittaint doesn't really work as an explanation
21:42.55karl_w_widiot australians are now going to use that as evidence that wireless is going to overtake fibre for home internet
21:43.04bleeterclocks on cross realm zones doing people's heads in?
21:43.05karl_w_wif you don't believe me, give it 2 days
21:43.22bleeterkarl_w_w: don't say a thing...
21:44.04Semlarerm
21:44.16bleetersrsly, blizz need to switch all their realms to UTC http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/6933955904
21:45.24Killa778ugh
21:45.31Killa778im fed up.. seriously
21:45.41Killa778why u no return VALUE!?
21:46.20karl_w_wbecause secondstotime on a negative value is nothing
21:46.35Killa778Why would the value be negative
21:46.45karl_w_w[karl_w_w] Dump: value=time() - 1353696810 [1]=-2668415
21:47.34Killa778CauseSooo
21:47.37Killa778How do i fix that
21:47.49Semlarwell your timestamp is from the future
21:47.53karl_w_wstop using a time in the future? :P
21:47.54Semlarso fix that
21:48.35Killa778lol Semlar
21:48.45Killa778your the one who told me to minue the variable from time
21:48.59Killa778Wouldnt they work if u put GalleonWatchLS - time()
21:49.04Killa778I asked u earlier and u said no :(
21:49.08Semlarhey my advice wasn't wrong
21:49.20Semlarsubtracting the old time from the current time gives you the difference
21:49.50Semlaryour old time being larger than your current time is because you're doing something wrong
21:50.16Killa778your pulling the diffrence
21:52.11Killa778derp
21:52.14Killa778im a month ahead
21:56.02Killa778http://pastie.org/5105746
21:56.05Killa778Okay new code
21:56.22Killa778With GalleonWatchLS set to 1351014810
21:56.29Killa778Which should return positive values
21:56.37Killa778And now its erroring saying this.
21:56.56Killa778Message: Interface\AddOns\GalleonWatch\GalleonWatch.lua:33: SendChatMessage(): Invalid escape code in chat message
21:57.13Semlaryou should be debugging your own stuff not asking us every time you have an error
21:57.44Vlad|Semlar :(
21:57.46Vlad|don't be mean
21:57.52Semlarhe's not going to learn anything this way!
21:58.02Vlad|Killa778: usually when errors happen they say why they happen ;)
21:58.03Semlarwe might as well be writing it
21:58.42Vlad|SendChatMessage error is explained here: http://www.wowpedia.org/ValidChatMessageCharacters
21:58.54Vlad|that article is linked from the API documentation at http://www.wowpedia.org/API_SendChatMessage
21:59.18Killa778You think im not if u could only see my broswer right now i have like 90 diffrent things opened up looking thru as im runnign thru
21:59.29Vlad|:D
21:59.36Vlad|I recommend keeping the index pages up
21:59.41Vlad|and closing the API as you are finished :P
22:00.49Killa778And what i think ive found is invalid escape code in chat message means its trying to send an invalid code
22:00.58Vlad|yes
22:01.02Vlad|what are you trying to send?
22:01.51Vlad|can't send invalid | chars
22:02.01Vlad|or new lines
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22:03.41Vlad|trust me it's hard at first but payoff is good once you learn :D
22:04.33Vlad|poor Killa778:(
22:05.30Seerahwell... maybe he went to get a drink or to go to the bathroom...  don't assume you guys made him cry :)
22:05.50Vlad|I always assume the worst until proven otherwise :P
22:06.14mckenziemcthen you should assume you're dead
22:06.37Vlad|no, but I always assume I am going to be assassinated soon
22:07.33Vlad|Killa778: CHAT_MSG_MONSTER_YELL needs a check, what the NPC is saying, if you want to avoid it spamming each time the npc yells :P
22:08.05Vlad|he DCed :D
22:08.09Vlad|or alt+f4
22:08.27Vlad|good going Semlar
22:09.24Unklelight a man a fire and he is warm for a time, light a man on fire and he is warm for the rest of his life.
22:10.49Vlad|:3
22:12.05KrapsPenance now heals for 6,606 + 63.5% of SP, up from 1,000 + 103.7% of SP.
22:12.07Krapswooop
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22:15.39Killa778Blah! crashed
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22:15.57Killa778So i ended up figuring out the math portion is returning the correct seconds
22:16.15Killa778Its something to do with SecondsToTime(GalleonsLastSpawn, false, , 5)
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22:19.15CooteSemlar: You kind of reminded me of something Cogwheel said a while back. http://blog.cogwheel.info/2010/12/totally-random-made-up-term-for-day-4.html
22:19.40foxlithttp://www.apple.com/imac/ << looks incredibly awesome
22:20.09Unklefoxlit that is a sexy looking workstation.
22:20.57Vlad|how can you get the npcID from a vehicle target? :/
22:21.09Vlad|I fear you can't
22:21.26foxlitits thinner than their led display, which is weirdly annoying
22:21.59mckenziemcwhere's the CD drive?
22:22.11Cootethere isnt one
22:22.47foxlitwhere did they fit the 7200 rpm HDD is a better question
22:23.47Mr_Rabiesi think of this every tuesday http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1AAXRu3TBA
22:24.04mckenziemcbut, my CDs
22:24.09mckenziemcwhat will i do with them :(
22:24.11Mr_Rabies(Char's name in Japanese is pronounced "Sha")
22:25.17Cootecds are so 10 years ago
22:26.26mckenziemcmacs are so 28 years ago
22:26.39Unklehttp://www.apple.com/imac/specs/ - doesn't say anything about an optical drive of any sort.
22:27.09Mr_Rabiesapple's in the "optical drives and ethernet ports are so last week" camp
22:27.24UnkleBut there is a USB SuperDrive which is DVD/CD
22:27.53Mr_Rabiesof course there is
22:28.07Mr_Rabiesi'm sure it's only $500, too
22:29.02UnkleI'm guessing that part of the thinness was achieved by removing the (largely) superfluous optical drive.
22:29.44UnkleAnd the USB SuberDrive is $79
22:29.49Mr_Rabieslol
22:30.00Mr_Rabieswell yeah, how else will they convince people to stop buying things and rent them from them instead
22:30.29bleetersurprised it still has USB
22:30.38Killa778http://pastie.org/5105891 ... Ive searched and searched.. i cannot get past this
22:30.42UnkleProbably the same way fucking Linux assumes that every box I need to work with will have an active internet connection.
22:31.08bleeterUnkle: huh, how does linux assume that?
22:31.31Unkletry installing ethtool on Ubuntu without an internet connection.
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22:31.55bleeteroh you mean specific GNU-Linux distros gotcha
22:32.00Fiskerpls foxlit
22:32.10Fiskeris it amazing, incredible and/or fantastic?
22:32.12UnkleThe solution is to use an off-line install that requires you to get the package on another machine.
22:32.13Killa778SecondsToTime(GalleonsLastSpawn, false, true , 5) <-- that line right there keeps erroring me
22:32.33Killa778its not playing well with SendChatMessage
22:33.07Killa778if i remove it, the addon will shout the correct kill time, and GalleonsLastSpawn also debugs and shows the correct seconds since last spawn
22:33.17Fiskerhey foxlit
22:33.22Fiskerwhy do they refuse taking shots from the side?
22:33.31Fiskerafraid someone might catch on to them?
22:34.07foxlityes.
22:34.14foxlitIt's convex, which ruins half the magic.
22:35.32foxlithttp://images.apple.com/imac/design/images/evolution_today.jpg
22:37.09Fiskerin the meantime every other shot that doesn't show that it is infact rounded gets 4 million extra pixels
22:38.09foxlitIn other news, grass is still green.
22:38.22Fiskerand twice the deceit than their previous model
22:38.39UnkleU mad, bro?
22:39.08F16GamingKilla778: GalleonWatchLS seems to be set to the time galleon spawns, rather than the time he is killed
22:39.23Fiskerhttp://i.imgur.com/jNelY.png
22:39.24Fiskersee
22:39.30Fiskeri mad this graph to illustrate
22:40.48Fiskermade*
22:41.40bleetervery informative, Fisker
22:41.47Fiskerthanks bleeter
22:43.18Mr_Rabies<Fisker> i mad
22:44.28Fiskerumad Mr_Rabies ?
22:45.52bleeteron that cross-realm time thing I mentioned previously, wonder if that's why I kinda have this weird feeling I've now done the same cooking daily twice in two days... hmm
22:46.00pompyhttp://us.battle.net/wow/en/blog/7628990/Free_Character_Moves_Available-10_23_2012
22:46.22Neffiwow
22:46.26Neffino wonder rogues have been bitching
22:46.34Neffiwe really suck right now
22:49.42bleeterno
22:49.46bleeterrogues have always sucked
22:50.58CooteNeffi: I shelved my Rogue in favor of my Shaman. You know it's bad when somebody chooses to go with a Shaman instead. :(
22:51.19Neffiaye
22:51.30Neffii just did two BGs and got 0 kills. never did that bad before.
22:51.37Neffii literally feel useless on my rogue
22:51.47Neffiguess it's a good thing feral didn't get shafted too
22:52.13CooteOne of my biggest issues with Rogues is all 3 specs play exactly alike. There's no difference in playstyle at all anymore. >.<
22:53.02CooteUsed to be Sub played like a Feral on crack mixed with some meth, and tons of caffeine. Loved that about it.
22:57.40mckenziemco.o
22:59.12NeffiYeah I really didnt like what they did
22:59.37NeffiMaking finishers convoluted, taking away a lot of our survivability.
22:59.48NeffiI feel like combat is the only spec with any hope and I just dont like it
23:00.36NeffiKind of makes me mad that in the beta they talked about rogues being so well designed that they wanted to mostly leave them as-is. They kinda gutted that. We dont even really feel like we used ot.
23:01.30mckenziemclooks like you got flipped around ;)
23:02.22NeffiBlah.
23:02.36NeffiWasted even leveling him to 90 and the gold sink tied to that.
23:03.13NeffiChanging some cooldowns ain't gonna change that. I'm not hopeful for them in 5.1 at least. Maybe 2-3 patches down the line rogues will be fun again. Maybe not.
23:04.31bleeteroO LV0 decrypt for PS3 are hosed! http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-ps3-the-final-hack
23:05.24NeffiIt always makes me smile when I see the hacker community blow the lid off attempts to lock a system down
23:05.56*** join/#wowuidev isman (~drag@mna75-2-82-67-196-34.fbx.proxad.net)
23:06.28NeffiThe community always strives for openness. It confuses me that so many companies strive for exactly the opposite. I think they'd have a better chance of securing DRM and stuff if they didn't give hackers such incentive to crack open the parts of the system that didn't need to be locked down in the first place.
23:07.52Killa778welp
23:07.53Killa778working!
23:07.56Killa778its done..
23:08.40bleeterdoes a happy dance for Killa778
23:08.57Killa778Fucking |4 :(
23:09.05Killa778Sorry not meaning to curse but
23:09.07Killa778Yeah.
23:10.13bleeteri think we're all fans of fucking curse around here
23:10.15bleeterzings
23:11.13Neffisees what bleeter did there.
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23:14.28Killa778haha.
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23:18.25CairennI wouldn't fuck curse even with someone else's
23:18.45Cootelol
23:19.42mckenziemco_O
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23:41.53F16Gaminglet's try something
23:42.02F16Gamingprepares to push loads of commit to curseforge
23:42.08F16Gamings/commit/commits/
23:42.36Semlarbetter lube up
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23:43.43F16Gaminglast i checked, KillTrack: packager in crazy mode. command: broken. Chocobo: working
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23:53.35F16Gaming7 new tags to killtrack
23:53.37F16Gaminghm
23:53.41F16Gamingwhat will happen to the packager?
23:54.40F16Gamingcommand seems to have packaged successfully
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23:55.55F16Gamingkilltrack packages no-lib only
23:56.01F16Gamingsame old issue is still there then
23:57.23F16Gamingit did create a normal package for 1.4.2
23:57.32F16Gamingbut none of the others

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