| 00:00.45 | sintAcks | ew. 8 addon updates. i already miss curse prem |
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| 00:25.22 | Vladinator | having connectivity issue Cairenn, sorry |
| 00:25.30 | Cairenn | no worries |
| 00:26.14 | Dark_Elf | ~seen Rythal |
| 00:26.16 | purl | rythal <~me@2001:470:1d:218:dc7b:aef6:eea8:83b5> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowuidev, 13d 11m 15s ago, saying: 'must be new york... can't say hey without getting stabbed'. |
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| 00:26.39 | Torhal | I'm right here. |
| 00:26.44 | Semlar | ~seen Semlar |
| 00:26.44 | purl | semlar is currently on #wowuidev (1d 23h 4m 57s). Has said a total of 171 messages. Is idling for 0s, last said: '~seen Semlar'. |
| 00:26.45 | bluspacecow | ~seen bluspacecow |
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| 00:26.51 | bluspacecow | me too ! |
| 00:26.56 | Semlar | ! |
| 00:27.25 | mckenziemc | ~seen Semlar |
| 00:27.26 | purl | semlar is currently on #wowuidev (1d 23h 5m 39s). Has said a total of 172 messages. Is idling for 30s, last said: '!'. |
| 00:27.30 | Semlar | STOP COPYPING ME |
| 00:27.47 | mckenziemc | mass-pings Semlar. |
| 00:27.56 | Semlar | DON'T MAKE FUN OF MY SPEECH IMPEDIMENT |
| 00:28.51 | Semlar | ~seen purpl |
| 00:28.51 | purl | Semlar: i haven't seen 'purpl' |
| 00:28.54 | Semlar | wow |
| 00:28.56 | Semlar | i cannot type |
| 00:30.32 | Vladinator | ~seen purl |
| 00:30.32 | purl | purl is currently on #lotrouidev (4d 12h 38m 16s) #casualti (4d 12h 38m 16s) #linuxfund (4d 12h 38m 16s) #waruidev (4d 12h 38m 16s) #how (4d 12h 38m 16s) #sc2mapster (4d 12h 38m 16s) #riftuidev (4d 12h 38m 16s) #edev (4d 12h 38m 16s) #fossfund (4d 12h 38m 16s) #hosernet (4d 12h 38m 16s) #norganna (4d 12h 38m 16s) #ud (4d 12h 38m 16s) ##ducleague (4d 12h ... |
| 00:31.10 | TC-Work | hosernet....who let canadians on freenode? |
| 00:35.18 | Semlar | eh? |
| 00:38.26 | TC-Work | ~lart Semlar |
| 00:38.26 | purl | takes out Semlar with the trash |
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| 00:39.35 | Semlar | :( |
| 00:40.59 | mckenziemc | takes the trash out with Semlar. |
| 00:41.48 | Semlar | :| |
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| 01:12.40 | Vladinator | it's 03:12 :( |
| 01:13.57 | Vladinator | can I register several irc nicks at once? |
| 01:14.07 | kd3 | yes. /ns help group |
| 01:21.53 | Vlad|inator| | making the transition, slower :P |
| 01:21.59 | Vlad|inator| | besides Vlad is taken on irc so |
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| 01:22.37 | Vlad|inator| | gn |
| 01:27.05 | Shirik | http://cheezburger.com/6674654208 |
| 01:27.21 | znf | Is there any possible way to re-order the Combat Log frame last? as in, after my custom ones? It seems to want to be second at any price |
| 01:35.45 | Arrowmaster | you cant drag it to reorder them? |
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| 02:38.17 | bluspacecow | lol @ Unkle |
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| 03:08.35 | karl_w_w | what's the opposite of hypocritical? |
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| 03:14.49 | Cairenn | http://thesaurus.com/browse/hypocritical?s=t |
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| 03:16.10 | karl_w_w | yeah I wasn't enamoured with those options :P |
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| 03:39.06 | karl_w_w | "Windows 8 is the result of a company (MS) looking at their last successful product (Windows 7) and saying to themselves: Wow we made the bestest OS ever! yay us! Now since we cant improve it in anyway lets make it real ugly and stupid to get everyones attention! yay! or if an analogy would help imagine the most impressively engineered bridge in the world; The Millau Viaduct, now imagine someone came along and painted it pink and pu |
| 03:48.50 | kd3 | ah, wipe nights |
| 03:48.51 | kd3 | sighs |
| 03:49.32 | Thunder_Child | better than leaving the poo stuck on |
| 03:50.08 | karl_w_w | lol |
| 03:50.42 | karl_w_w | so Thunder_Child is a wipe knight |
| 03:50.53 | Kraps | http://www.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/comments/11p5ly/til_in_1981_a_man_who_had_been_bullying_residents/ |
| 03:52.53 | karl_w_w | I'm confused, where is the missing end in this? http://codepad.org/vbQfFcxT |
| 03:54.16 | karl_w_w | oh |
| 03:54.18 | karl_w_w | else if |
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| 04:28.21 | Thunder_Child | ~lart karl_w_w |
| 04:28.21 | purl | slaps karl_w_w upside and over the head with one freakishly huge killer whale named hugh |
| 04:29.02 | Primer | I'm trying to make a WeakAura where my mana is 70% or less AND my Shadowfiend is not on CD. It seems that "Cooldown progress (Spell)" is only about the "event of coming off CD" |
| 04:29.15 | Primer | but there's nothing for "it's off CD" |
| 04:30.46 | Primer | nm, action usable |
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| 05:46.05 | Ackis | is there an addon that will save my key bindings/button positions so I can effectively have a tri-spec? |
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| 05:47.53 | starlon | Ackis: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info8075-ActionBarSaver.html |
| 05:48.39 | starlon | I haven't used it much except to save buttons. So it might break. |
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| 05:59.13 | Jamash | Ackis: I'm sort of working on one |
| 05:59.25 | Jamash | but it's pretty primitive |
| 06:00.17 | Jamash | there's an undocumented feature in learning aid to save the contents of an action bar |
| 06:00.29 | Jamash | which probably doesn't work with flyouts and stuff |
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| 06:13.57 | Jamash | yay! |
| 06:14.00 | Jamash | upgradeded |
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| 06:15.51 | karl_w_w | upgrades Jamash to a small ferret |
| 06:16.31 | Jamash | ferrets karl_w_w |
| 06:17.11 | karl_w_w | clucks disapprovingly |
| 06:17.26 | karl_w_w | I've always wanted to do that, whatever it is |
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| 06:35.17 | Semlar | are you a chicken |
| 06:41.27 | karl_w_w | sadly no |
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| 06:52.20 | ccox | I just love getting lectured by an 8 year old about how my healing sucks… because the tank pulled half the dungeon without the healer present |
| 06:52.43 | ccox | or how he must be a better player because he has BoAs (that are the wrong stats for tanking) |
| 06:53.19 | neutronimity | I want an addon telling "gogog" players to shut up. |
| 06:53.43 | Semlar | DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:Hide() |
| 06:54.22 | neutronimity | I want to literally say, Oooh, you want to gooooo .. where? |
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| 07:00.08 | AcidWeb | IDK if anybody care but @DuvalMagic just twitted another set of golden keys for BL2 |
| 07:02.59 | zenzio | golden keys? |
| 07:07.09 | AcidWeb | There is one loot chest in-game that you can open only with that keys. |
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| 07:37.03 | Ackis | did anyone see my question earlier (like 45-60 mins ago) or was my internet being stupid? |
| 07:44.45 | mitch0 | <starlon> Ackis: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info8075-ActionBarSaver.html |
| 07:45.03 | mitch0 | that one? |
| 07:46.18 | Ackis | guess my question got asked but I didn't see the answer, thanks starlon and mitch0 |
| 07:46.43 | Semlar | i don't have anything from you in the last hour |
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| 07:48.17 | Semlar | you did ask about a key binding addon 2 hours ago |
| 07:49.07 | Ackis | it was that long ago? derp |
| 07:49.23 | Semlar | >_> |
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| 08:04.04 | neutronimity | Someone wants me to resurrect him during a boss fight, rebirth, because he needs xp. |
| 08:09.17 | zenzio | http://scifi.stackexchange.com/questions/24885/safety-railings-in-the-star-wars-universe |
| 08:10.28 | Mr_Rabies | can i make a request? |
| 08:11.16 | Mr_Rabies | when MoP becomes the expansion everyone says is way worse than the previous ever was, can we refer to it as "mists of blandaria," please |
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| 08:19.42 | Adys | /dev/sdd1 2.7T 201M 2.6T 1% /media/bigdata |
| 08:19.44 | Adys | oh baby.. |
| 08:19.56 | Adys | Maldivia: dem patches found their new place to live |
| 08:20.49 | pnorman | /dev/mapper/datavg-datalv 2.7T 1.8T 745G 72% / |
| 08:21.19 | Sintacks | http://puu.sh/1gmZA |
| 08:21.20 | Sintacks | fuck this shit |
| 08:21.38 | pnorman | my slow bulk storage is just a RAID1 pair of drives, /dev/md127 1.8T 819G 922G 48% /mnt/bulk1 |
| 08:23.14 | Adys | pnorman: this one adds to the ones i already have |
| 08:23.18 | nevcairiel | puny tiny drives you have there |
| 08:24.00 | pnorman | I've contemplated rebuilding my main array onto larger drives, but i'd have to buy 3x2TB to do that |
| 08:24.09 | pnorman | er, 6x2TB |
| 08:24.31 | Adys | er no nevcairiel |
| 08:24.34 | Adys | this is a standalone one |
| 08:24.48 | pnorman | although I do see that there's some toshiba 2TB drives on sale for $89 |
| 08:24.53 | Adys | i have 1tb + 1.5tb + 1tb + now 3tb |
| 08:25.02 | Adys | and this shit was getting full |
| 08:25.32 | pnorman | I have 8x1TB and 2x2TB installed right now |
| 08:26.42 | nevcairiel | /10.10.0.5/media 26T 5.5T 21T 22% /mnt/media |
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| 08:27.18 | nevcairiel | for some reason i couldnt get onto the server itself over remote, so here si just the network drive :P |
| 08:30.43 | pnorman | My problem is I need both very large storage for some files (media), 1-2 TB of decently fast storage for databases and I'd like to add in some SSDs, but SSDs are too expensive |
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| 08:51.42 | karl_w_w | one of the coolest films ever? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7XGaoOlar8 |
| 09:38.01 | frontendloader | seagate barracudas have done me right for fast/large storage |
| 09:38.23 | frontendloader | they're not enterprise drives ofc |
| 09:39.04 | karl_w_w | yeah I have a barracuda |
| 09:39.08 | karl_w_w | in my pants! |
| 09:39.16 | karl_w_w | in my PC also |
| 09:40.52 | frontendloader | I'll be happy when 512gb ssds get down to a decent price/gb |
| 09:46.47 | Sintacks | I'd be happy with just a 128 |
| 09:46.51 | Sintacks | hell, i'd be happy with a 64 |
| 09:51.42 | nevcairiel | 128s are already really cheap |
| 09:51.51 | nevcairiel | considering the boost they give to your system |
| 09:54.00 | karl_w_w | yeah i have a 64 and it's been comfortably sufficient |
| 09:54.11 | karl_w_w | er, a 128 |
| 09:54.53 | karl_w_w | i wouldnt wanna be on 64, i have 59 gb used 48 free |
| 09:55.03 | karl_w_w | and i only really have wow on there |
| 09:59.37 | ZorbaTHut | I've got a 256 and it's nice to have some good headroom |
| 09:59.44 | ZorbaTHut | got around 50gb free as well |
| 09:59.59 | ZorbaTHut | but I do all my software development on it, which takes a surprising amount of space for temp files |
| 10:00.57 | frontendloader | I've been using a 256 and it isn't big enough :( |
| 10:01.20 | frontendloader | I blame WoW |
| 10:01.29 | ZorbaTHut | it wouldn't be big enough for me if I wasn't doing a bunch of black magic with symlinks to keep parts of things on it :V |
| 10:01.42 | frontendloader | steam mover? heh |
| 10:01.51 | ZorbaTHut | steamtool, but basically the same idea |
| 10:01.57 | ZorbaTHut | and similar things by hand for other games |
| 10:02.30 | frontendloader | they finally released an update to steam awhile ago that lets you install games to different steam libraries |
| 10:02.33 | frontendloader | but only newer games work with it |
| 10:02.49 | ZorbaTHut | I suspect they'll be converting things over as they can |
| 10:04.09 | frontendloader | l4d and l4d2 don't work with it :( |
| 10:04.25 | frontendloader | those are the two that I play barely often enough to justify having them installed |
| 10:05.08 | Elkano | why would you have L4D installed when you have L4D2? |
| 10:05.47 | Elkano | also, you can use links to have the files in a different possition. |
| 10:06.16 | Elkano | and I expect them to move L4D/2 to their new content system, too. |
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| 10:43.45 | Fisker | The Cupertino-based company had previously halted pre-installing Java in OS X partially due to the exploitable factors of the platform |
| 10:43.53 | Fisker | Does that mean the next Update removes OS X? |
| 10:44.03 | karl_w_w | yes |
| 10:46.02 | Shirik | software is exploitable, so we're removing all software from your computer |
| 10:46.05 | Shirik | thank you for your cooperation |
| 10:51.52 | karl_w_w | i once removed software from a computer |
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| 10:54.49 | Semlar | no! they said it couldn't be done! |
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| 11:19.06 | Sintacks | that's the most ram i've seen WoW use in a while ... |
| 11:19.08 | Sintacks | 2.9GB |
| 11:19.37 | zenzio | I was going to say "USE ALL THE RAMS", but unless you're on 32-bit that's not all that bad |
| 11:23.02 | frontendloader | I had it get up to 2gb back in WotLK a few times |
| 11:23.08 | Sintacks | 64 bit OS. 32 bit WoW client |
| 11:23.11 | frontendloader | due to that ATI texture caching bug |
| 11:23.29 | frontendloader | fly around in dalaran for 10 min |
| 11:23.30 | frontendloader | crash |
| 11:23.34 | Sintacks | lol |
| 11:23.37 | Sintacks | i remember that shit |
| 11:23.53 | Sintacks | had to modify the exe to allow more than 2GB shit stuff to keep it from happening |
| 11:24.20 | frontendloader | the computer I had at the time |
| 11:24.24 | frontendloader | had only 3gb of ram :/ |
| 11:24.31 | Sintacks | mine had 4 |
| 11:24.38 | Sintacks | WoW tried to use more than half of it |
| 11:24.39 | frontendloader | 32 bit Vista |
| 11:24.40 | frontendloader | lol |
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| 12:03.45 | Adys | zenzio: it's bad |
| 12:03.58 | Adys | 3gb worth of data is insane |
| 12:04.07 | Adys | i dont think people realize just how insane |
| 12:04.26 | Adys | that contains half of all of wow's data at release |
| 12:05.38 | zenzio | it is true, I don't recall seeing any of the programs I run go that high |
| 12:06.00 | Adys | one of the issues with gaming performance today is people think |
| 12:06.12 | Adys | "this game is 10gb? thats not too bad" |
| 12:06.23 | Semlar | i could probably get firefox up to 3gb |
| 12:06.45 | Adys | the issue is people hold ram and disk space at skewed standards |
| 12:06.51 | Adys | as if ram was *more* available than disk space |
| 12:07.00 | Adys | absurd |
| 12:07.42 | Maldivia | but if the mem is readily available, might as well use it for caching to get quicker access to assets that you know will be used soon :) |
| 12:07.54 | Adys | Maldivia: but thats not even sort of what wow does |
| 12:08.06 | Adys | its actually what chrome does |
| 12:08.13 | Adys | and i dont blame chrome too much on its memory usage |
| 12:08.26 | Semlar | everything you see that's going on in the game is stored in ram |
| 12:08.30 | Adys | but when wow is doing this shit, its not even sort of smartcaching |
| 12:08.40 | Adys | Semlar: thats not an issue |
| 12:08.48 | Adys | the issue is when everything you *dont* see is stored |
| 12:09.14 | Semlar | the textures, the models |
| 12:09.16 | Semlar | where everything goes |
| 12:09.46 | Adys | i havent analyzed wow's memory usage |
| 12:10.01 | Adys | but given how insane it is, theres a good bet there is a *lot* of duplication going on |
| 12:10.25 | Maldivia | Adys: my issue with chrome is that it spawns too many processes :) ok, it's only really a problem when I have to kill a process and have to scroll past all the chrome instances :P |
| 12:10.38 | Adys | Maldivia: yeah thats really fucking annoying |
| 12:10.45 | Adys | ps is unreadable sometimes |
| 12:10.56 | Semlar | why would you assume there's a lot of duplication going on if you don't know what it's doing |
| 12:11.14 | Adys | Semlar: because the game is immense and under 20gb |
| 12:11.26 | Adys | Semlar: if it's taking up 3gb in space, that's not just zeroes |
| 12:12.00 | Adys | worst offenders are usually models and textures |
| 12:12.05 | Adys | and say you explore three entire zones |
| 12:12.18 | Adys | that's maybe 400mb of data at most, not counting players |
| 12:12.36 | Adys | im counting large there |
| 12:13.25 | Adys | so theres really two possibilities there |
| 12:13.37 | Semlar | there are many possibilities |
| 12:13.51 | Adys | either wow is storing a lot of recent data completely uncompressed in ram, or it's duplicating a lot of what it sees (or a combination of both) |
| 12:14.16 | Adys | Semlar: two most likely possibilities |
| 12:14.28 | nevcairiel | personally i wouldnt care if wow loaded 10gb into ram as long as the ram is available =P |
| 12:14.31 | Semlar | it preloads much of the data you are going to be accessing in ram for faster access |
| 12:14.41 | Maldivia | Adys: don't forget that some addons have very bloated memory usage as well :) |
| 12:14.52 | Semlar | and it stores temporary data in a cache |
| 12:15.15 | Adys | Maldivia: im looking from the pov of my own ui, which is very low on memory usage |
| 12:15.26 | Adys | I have like 6 addons |
| 12:15.38 | Semlar | addon memory usage is pretty negligible compared to the rest of the client |
| 12:15.43 | Adys | Semlar: theres very little preloading at all in wow |
| 12:15.50 | Adys | a lot of caching but little preloading |
| 12:16.36 | Maldivia | Adys: a fresh wow, at the login screen: 140mb :) |
| 12:17.09 | Adys | tbh i find that really high |
| 12:17.27 | nevcairiel | 140mb is nothing |
| 12:17.28 | Adys | although i can forgive that |
| 12:17.34 | Adys | for a login screen its a lot |
| 12:17.42 | Adys | but im guessing its because of all the shit it opens at startup |
| 12:17.50 | Adys | every single mpq alone |
| 12:18.40 | Maldivia | just after entering the world (kun-lei), it's at 960mb :) |
| 12:18.50 | Adys | and again, you cant hold ram at the ridiculous standards hard drives are at |
| 12:19.03 | Adys | i have 8 gigs of ram, i consider that to be on the high side |
| 12:19.09 | nevcairiel | imho a game can use as much ram as is available, when you run it, you're usually going to play it and not use your pc for much else :P |
| 12:19.12 | Semlar | well, i can tell you if i built a desktop today it would have at least 16gb of ram |
| 12:19.17 | nevcairiel | also, imho 8 is more an average now :P |
| 12:19.20 | Semlar | my 4 year old desktop has 8 |
| 12:19.30 | Adys | not for wow nevcairiel |
| 12:19.34 | Adys | i havent had 8 gigs of available hd space in 10 years |
| 12:19.44 | nevcairiel | you're a weirdo |
| 12:19.59 | Adys | and i can tell you that back when i had a 8gb hard drive |
| 12:20.00 | nevcairiel | my phone has more free hd space then that |
| 12:20.05 | Semlar | i have a 2tb hard drive.. |
| 12:20.15 | Adys | i would never, ever create a 130 mb file and call it nothing |
| 12:20.23 | Adys | Semlar: who cares |
| 12:20.30 | Adys | i have 10tb, sue me |
| 12:20.36 | Adys | 8, whatever |
| 12:20.41 | nevcairiel | we dont live in times of 8gb drives anymore |
| 12:20.45 | Semlar | that's a lot of porn |
| 12:20.50 | Adys | nevcairiel: but we do live in times of 8 gb ram |
| 12:21.04 | nevcairiel | the difference in ram is that its temporary |
| 12:21.07 | Semlar | how do you only have 8gb free with that much space |
| 12:21.21 | Adys | Semlar: you misunderstood what i wrote |
| 12:21.30 | nevcairiel | you launch the stuff you use |
| 12:21.38 | nevcairiel | you close it, space is free again |
| 12:21.39 | Vlad|inator| | my window flashed when someone said porn, where..? |
| 12:21.43 | Semlar | "i havent had 8 gigs of available hd space in 10 years" |
| 12:21.44 | Adys | nevcairiel: i get that the usage is very different, but standards are still ridiculously low |
| 12:21.54 | Adys | Semlar: as in only 8 gigs |
| 12:22.29 | nevcairiel | especially with games, you launch it, you play it. not many people run much stuff in parallel |
| 12:22.39 | nevcairiel | so really, who cares about a few megs extra? |
| 12:22.45 | Adys | those with less ram? |
| 12:23.07 | nevcairiel | you can play wow just fine with 4gb or probably even less |
| 12:23.15 | nevcairiel | but anyone with less then 4gb needs to upgrade :P |
| 12:23.16 | Adys | the whole "if it's available ..." works great in theory, but when its badly implemented (or not at all), then you do care about a few megs extra |
| 12:23.18 | Semlar | i guarantee it's going to use less ram if it has less available |
| 12:23.29 | Vlad|inator| | do they even make ram units with less than 4g anymore? |
| 12:23.39 | Adys | Semlar: using less ram has implications |
| 12:23.50 | Adys | ram usage itself is just a number |
| 12:24.08 | nevcairiel | there is always the argument of ram vs cpu. if you can store uncompressed data instead of decompressing it on the fly, it has its advantages |
| 12:24.12 | Adys | but if you just put random crap in the ram, chances are you're still putting random crap in the ram at 2gb left |
| 12:24.21 | Adys | where its a lot tighter |
| 12:24.50 | Adys | more crap = less space available for useful stuff = worse performance |
| 12:24.57 | Adys | its not just an "if its available" problem |
| 12:25.03 | Semlar | does the game perform poorly |
| 12:25.10 | Adys | yes, it's a piece of shit |
| 12:25.23 | nevcairiel | runs fine for me |
| 12:25.30 | nevcairiel | try it on actual windows one of these days =p |
| 12:25.43 | Semlar | you could probably run wow on a calculator |
| 12:25.57 | Adys | nevcairiel: wow used to run better under wine than on windows at some point |
| 12:26.26 | Adys | and i can guarantee you that its not that wine has gotten worse |
| 12:26.31 | nevcairiel | whatever, the point is that you shouldn't try to judge anything thats running on wine |
| 12:26.41 | Adys | im not just judging from that |
| 12:26.56 | Adys | i have a laptop that used to run cataclysm pretty okay |
| 12:26.59 | Adys | its unplayable now |
| 12:27.03 | Adys | (windows 7) |
| 12:27.07 | nevcairiel | the engine evolves |
| 12:27.17 | Adys | evolves is the keyword |
| 12:27.17 | karl_w_w | like a pokemon |
| 12:27.19 | karl_w_w | how fitting |
| 12:27.21 | Adys | not "degrades" |
| 12:27.23 | nevcairiel | classic was running fine on rather old pcs |
| 12:27.28 | nevcairiel | but it also looked worse |
| 12:28.15 | Adys | i get that newer/better looking tech is simply more stressful on the machine |
| 12:28.44 | Adys | but you cannot just use that as an excuse for how poorly wow performs |
| 12:28.59 | Adys | there are much more demanding games than wow that run smoother |
| 12:29.46 | Adys | regardless we were talking about ram usage, and the graphics engine itself has very little effect on that |
| 12:29.49 | nevcairiel | the problem with evolution is that you are usually still tied some basics that were designed decades ago, instead of a fresh engine |
| 12:30.24 | Adys | then PEBCAC |
| 12:30.28 | Adys | (code and coder) |
| 12:31.11 | Adys | as a friend said recently |
| 12:31.19 | Adys | "you have millions. figure it out." |
| 12:31.19 | nevcairiel | and that spending a lot of time on making the game just better on the inside without direct marketing benefits doesnt pay off that well (claiming that a patch makes it much faster may be interesting to some people, but the majority would just say "where is my content?") |
| 12:31.34 | Semlar | works fine for me and my computer is pretty outdated for a gaming rig |
| 12:31.52 | Adys | since when are content designers the same people working on game engine performance? |
| 12:32.06 | Adys | because i hope to god in a company the size of blizzard on a game the size of wow they're not |
| 12:32.50 | nevcairiel | there is always some overlap, not directly between the two, but you still can't rewrite it on the inside out without influencing the overall development pace |
| 12:32.55 | Adys | and performance has huge marketing benefits |
| 12:33.12 | Adys | better low-end perf is higher reach (how do flash games do so well exactly?) |
| 12:33.34 | nevcairiel | flash games do so well because everyone can play them at work without too much suspicion :P |
| 12:33.38 | Adys | and better high-end perf is more room to design better looking/amazing content, which is indirect |
| 12:34.18 | Adys | nevcairiel: flash games do so well because everyone can play them |
| 12:36.07 | nevcairiel | in comparison to other games, wow already offers quite a wide range of knobs you can turn to make it run on slower hardware, or make it look good on better hardware |
| 12:36.46 | Semlar | wow isn't very demanding for a modern computer game |
| 12:37.25 | nevcairiel | wow doesnt scale too well, it works OK on a mid-range PC, and it still works OK on a high-end system, it doesnt benefit as much as it could from the high-end performance |
| 12:37.51 | nevcairiel | even on one of fastest PCs you can pretty much assemble, you can make it dip in performance in crowded scenes |
| 12:38.18 | Semlar | it could be more efficient |
| 12:38.24 | nevcairiel | still it covers a rather wide spectrum of PCs |
| 12:38.29 | Semlar | but they'd probably have to redo the engine |
| 12:40.44 | Semlar | diablo 3 on the other hand managed to overheat my computer |
| 12:41.09 | Semlar | that game really played like shit for me |
| 12:41.34 | nevcairiel | if your computer can overheat, your setup is broken in the first place =p |
| 12:41.48 | Kalroth | unless it's an nvidia card |
| 12:42.01 | nevcairiel | what good is a system that cant run on 100% without breaking down? |
| 12:42.19 | Semlar | my system ain't no bitch |
| 12:42.29 | Semlar | i tell it to jump and it jumps |
| 12:42.41 | Semlar | even if it can't |
| 12:44.31 | Semlar | that and i unplugged most of my case fans for being too noisy |
| 12:44.48 | Semlar | what are you gonna do |
| 12:45.20 | mitch0 | I had 4 case fans. all of them were blowing inwards... |
| 12:45.43 | Semlar | oh god, it's going to pop like a balloon |
| 12:45.46 | Antze | a whole new meaning to work under pressure |
| 12:45.48 | zenzio | sucking all the cold air into your computer! |
| 12:45.56 | nevcairiel | depending on where they are place, that doesnt have to be bad |
| 12:46.27 | nevcairiel | like, if they are all in the front of the case |
| 12:46.36 | Semlar | well if it isn't pulling air out there isn't any air flow |
| 12:46.41 | mitch0 | no, 2 front, 2 back |
| 12:46.51 | mitch0 | or 1 front, 3 back? something like that |
| 12:46.54 | Antze | actually air could come out by its own if there's way for it |
| 12:46.55 | nevcairiel | if you push air flow from the front, it has to go out somewhere |
| 12:46.58 | mitch0 | it constantly overheated ;) |
| 12:47.18 | mitch0 | dunno where it went out tbh |
| 12:47.27 | mitch0 | maybe on the sides thru the cracks |
| 12:47.44 | mitch0 | was also noisy as hell |
| 12:47.45 | Antze | there should those... what is the word |
| 12:47.55 | Semlar | the noise was from the turbulence |
| 12:50.32 | Antze | grille maybe |
| 12:50.42 | Semlar | vent? |
| 12:51.07 | Antze | the thing which allows airflow, often with a fan attached, but sometimes without one |
| 12:53.04 | Antze | http://www.ggc.com.ua/uploaded/image/Flamingo_Title/Flamingo_24.jpg |
| 12:53.17 | Semlar | http://www.techlivez.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/pcfancase.jpg |
| 12:53.57 | Antze | awesome, finally someone invented personal air transport |
| 12:56.54 | Semlar | i would call the opening a vent, the grille is more the slats or grate that keeps stuff from passing through the vent |
| 12:57.51 | Semlar | i don't know if there's a specific computer term for the holes in the case for air flow |
| 12:58.40 | Semlar | maybe intake and exhaust |
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| 13:16.31 | Sintacks | heh. first on my server with a shado-pan weapon enchant |
| 13:17.53 | karl_w_w | your mum must be so proud :P |
| 13:20.20 | Kraps | blizzard better watch out http://blue.mmo-champion.com/topic/241000-quitting-petition-if-no-balance-fixing-next-ptrbuild/ |
| 13:22.39 | zenzio | "If you're coming to this thread to leave a "dont let the door hit you on the way out" then please refrain from posting, you'll only get reported from trolling and they do forum ban people for this. " |
| 13:22.56 | zenzio | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:23.05 | zenzio | seems like he's up to speed on rules |
| 13:23.28 | karl_w_w | wtf |
| 13:23.43 | karl_w_w | u can use bonus rolls more than once per week on the same lfr boss |
| 13:24.22 | nevcairiel | yes |
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| 13:36.35 | Fisker | he3y Stanzilla |
| 13:36.41 | Stanzilla | yo |
| 13:37.53 | Fisker | i want to windows 8 |
| 13:38.11 | Stanzilla | buy it maybe |
| 13:38.24 | Fisker | i can't |
| 13:38.48 | Jamash | why would you windows 8 |
| 13:39.12 | Fisker | why wouldn't i? |
| 13:43.34 | karl_w_w | what's good Fisker? |
| 13:48.04 | Jamash | because metro, fisker |
| 13:54.21 | Fisker | what about it? |
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| 13:56.08 | Jamash | it's so terrible |
| 13:56.17 | Jamash | it's like computer cancer |
| 13:56.49 | Jamash | buttons metastatizing(sp?) to cover huge chunks of screen |
| 13:56.50 | batbot | Jamash, nothing found. |
| 13:56.57 | Jamash | ~lart batbot |
| 13:56.57 | purl | resizes batbot's terminal to 40x24 |
| 13:57.39 | Jamash | s/ati/asi/ |
| 13:57.42 | Jamash | bah |
| 13:57.52 | Jamash | anyway |
| 13:58.16 | Jamash | huge chunky buttons are great for touch devices and poop from a butt for mouse and controller devices |
| 13:58.40 | Jamash | once again microsoft takes an idea that might be good in one context and forces it onto everyone regardless of context |
| 14:00.26 | Fisker | so mad Jamash |
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| 14:01.05 | Jamash | mad with power Fisker |
| 14:01.11 | Fisker | very mad |
| 14:02.27 | Jamash | why wouldn't I be? |
| 14:14.19 | karl_w_w | Jamash: because you're a mild-mannered reporter? |
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| 14:17.07 | Jamash | but I'm not mild-mannered |
| 14:17.09 | Jamash | or a reporter |
| 14:17.17 | Jamash | also my glasses have real lenses |
| 14:17.57 | karl_w_w | and are you ever around when emergencies happen? |
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| 14:23.12 | Jamash | yes but only when I've caused them |
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| 14:25.08 | karl_w_w | I miss mp5 :( |
| 14:27.38 | karl_w_w | they really killed healing when they got rid of the 5 second rule and all the good stuff |
| 14:29.02 | Jamash | 5sr was my least favorite thing about wow |
| 14:29.03 | Lopeppeppy | That really was a huge change in healing mechanics. |
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| 14:30.59 | Jamash | doesn't spirit basically = mp5 now? |
| 14:31.14 | Fisker | slaps Lopeppeppy around a bit with a large trout |
| 14:31.46 | Jamash | runs into Fisker at 400 mph with a car made of diamond |
| 14:31.55 | Fisker | sup Jamash ? |
| 14:32.06 | Jamash | breakfast |
| 14:32.54 | karl_w_w | yeah Jamash |
| 14:33.02 | Jamash | do you know why diamond is the hardest metal known to man Fisker? |
| 14:33.04 | karl_w_w | 5sr was godly |
| 14:33.20 | karl_w_w | it made you have to be good |
| 14:33.24 | Fisker | ok Jamash |
| 14:33.35 | karl_w_w | instead of playing whack-a-mole with your raid frames |
| 14:33.39 | Jamash | karl_w_w: godly, but the god was slaanesh |
| 14:34.13 | Jamash | or yogg-saron if you prefer |
| 14:34.25 | karl_w_w | no you are |
| 14:35.05 | Lopeppeppy | Diamonds are metal? News to me... |
| 14:35.46 | karl_w_w | they are dont deny it |
| 14:35.52 | karl_w_w | prove they aren't then! |
| 14:36.08 | karl_w_w | nah but yeah but nah but |
| 14:36.16 | Jamash | warning: may cause you to laugh until you are unable to breathe http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/082/978/DiamondMetal.jpg |
| 14:36.29 | Jamash | best if read out loud |
| 14:37.53 | Jamash | 5sr wasn't about being good, it was about wanding while someone else healed |
| 14:40.47 | Jamash | although I admit popping shadowfiend on curator during evocate was good times |
| 14:40.51 | Fisker | hey Jamash |
| 14:40.52 | Fisker | not so hey karl_w_w |
| 14:41.12 | Jamash | Fisker |
| 14:41.19 | Jamash | I once shadow word deathed a curator during evocate |
| 14:41.28 | Jamash | you can guess how well that went |
| 14:41.30 | karl_w_w | did it die? |
| 14:41.34 | Jamash | someone did, yeah |
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| 14:41.54 | Jamash | I miss raiding |
| 14:42.03 | Jamash | never set foot in a raid except baradin hold during cata |
| 14:42.59 | Jamash | Cataclysm heroics killed my guild |
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| 14:44.04 | Jamash | I should have tried RF I guess |
| 14:44.42 | Jamash | ok so, is this a good plan: roll ally DK, get out of DK starting zone, buy ally mounts, profit? |
| 14:48.55 | Lopeppeppy | Why is buying mounts profitable? |
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| 14:50.07 | Jamash | for the achievements, obviously |
| 14:50.23 | Jamash | gotta get ready for that 150 mount achievement |
| 14:50.29 | Lopeppeppy | oh, well then, go go gadget achievement whore. |
| 14:51.38 | Fisker | why do you hate Jamash? |
| 14:51.39 | Jamash | I'm not an achievement whore, I'm a mount whore |
| 14:52.56 | Lopeppeppy | See? I'm not hatin', I'm teasing. |
| 14:53.14 | Lopeppeppy | P.S., mount whore sounds triple-dirty. Just sayin'. |
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| 14:57.14 | Jamash | oh, I know |
| 14:59.16 | Lopeppeppy | Reminds me of the classic Craigslist post about the Epic Mount deal. |
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| 15:22.52 | Fisker | so Stanzilla |
| 15:22.58 | Fisker | looking forward to october 29th? |
| 15:23.30 | karl_w_w | Jamash if u can level and gear an alliance tank in 40 hours u can raid with us :P |
| 15:23.51 | Stanzilla | idc Fisker |
| 15:24.28 | Vlad|inator| | Torhal are you here? |
| 15:24.50 | Torhal | Maybe |
| 15:25.04 | Vlad|inator| | would it be possible to rename my curse account to another name? |
| 15:26.20 | Torhal | Just Curse. Not CurseForge. |
| 15:26.26 | Vlad|inator| | ow |
| 15:26.29 | Torhal | Yar. |
| 15:26.33 | Vlad|inator| | so... |
| 15:26.40 | Vlad|inator| | can you change my curse to Vlad at least? |
| 15:26.40 | Vlad|inator| | :P |
| 15:26.48 | Vlad|inator| | I figure curseforge is a technical thingy :P |
| 15:26.57 | Torhal | Yah, it is |
| 15:27.05 | Vlad|inator| | the one who programmed curseforge should have considered renames :D |
| 15:27.05 | Torhal | I'll see about a rename credit. One sec |
| 15:27.08 | Vlad|inator| | thanks |
| 15:27.11 | Vlad|inator| | wha? |
| 15:27.12 | Vlad|inator| | :P |
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| 15:27.27 | Dark_Elf | pops in to say i like the candy buckets and pops out |
| 15:27.32 | Vlad|inator| | :D |
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| 15:27.48 | Fisker | why not Stanzilla ? |
| 15:27.54 | olafski | hey.. does anyone know if it's possible to change the bar order in SUF? I found on google that it is/will be, but can't figure out how =) |
| 15:27.55 | Fisker | don't want it after all? |
| 15:27.56 | Stanzilla | already have win8 |
| 15:28.04 | karl_w_w | prospects Fisker |
| 15:28.40 | Fisker | pls Stanzilla |
| 15:28.48 | Fisker | since when is october 29th october 26th? |
| 15:29.08 | Stanzilla | what is 29th? samsung 840? |
| 15:29.13 | Fisker | no |
| 15:29.23 | Fisker | lg nexus 4 or whatever they're gonna call it |
| 15:29.27 | Stanzilla | ah |
| 15:29.28 | nevcairiel | googles android event and microsofts surface event |
| 15:29.32 | Fisker | + android 4.2 + google tv 3 +etc. i guess |
| 15:29.35 | Vlad|inator| | Dark_Elf someone said they don't see the buckets they haven't visited this year, but it's odd because it only hides those quests you have done... has anyone experienced unable to do buckets from last year? |
| 15:29.41 | Torhal | Vlad|inator|: Log out and back in, you have a rename credit. |
| 15:29.50 | Vlad|inator| | what is a rename credit? :D |
| 15:30.06 | Stanzilla | a credit to rename |
| 15:30.12 | Vlad|inator| | Vlad is taken :< |
| 15:30.22 | Vlad|inator| | but it's not, and on curseforge it's taken but last login 2005 |
| 15:30.35 | Vlad|inator| | :'< |
| 15:31.09 | Semlar | ~seen vlad |
| 15:31.16 | purl | vlad <~vlad@opentomsk.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 380d 18h 12m 2s ago, saying: 'how to fix this?'. |
| 15:31.24 | Fisker | hey Stanzilla |
| 15:31.36 | Fisker | i do not want to die |
| 15:31.55 | Stanzilla | don't then |
| 15:32.14 | Fisker | i can't |
| 15:32.17 | Unkle | Dawn come and stone take you all. |
| 15:32.24 | Vlad|inator| | www.curse.com/users/Vlad (404) |
| 15:32.24 | Vlad|inator| | http://www.curseforge.com/profiles/Vlad/ (not 404) |
| 15:32.31 | Vlad|inator| | but curse.com don't allow me to use Vlad :P |
| 15:33.14 | Vlad|inator| | I went trough a process with wowhead and cairenn, how do I do this with curse? |
| 15:33.23 | Vlad|inator| | not sure who to contact :P |
| 15:33.46 | Torhal | Vlad|inator|: Jesus :P |
| 15:33.47 | Torhal | Try now. |
| 15:33.54 | Vlad|inator| | :D |
| 15:34.00 | Vlad|inator| | worked ^^ |
| 15:34.14 | Vlad|inator| | awesome |
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| 15:35.27 | Vlad|inator| | hehe |
| 15:35.29 | Vlad|inator| | it's funny |
| 15:35.40 | Vlad|inator| | on the curseforge author list Vladinator don't exist anymore |
| 15:35.43 | Vlad|inator| | but Vlad is someone else ;D |
| 15:36.04 | Stanzilla | never do a rename on curse |
| 15:36.07 | Stanzilla | you end up like mikk |
| 15:36.09 | Stanzilla | with 3 accounts |
| 15:36.09 | Vlad|inator| | lol |
| 15:36.25 | Stanzilla | he never got his real account back |
| 15:36.49 | Unkle | I never bothered to rename. I still login to curse with my old nick. |
| 15:36.52 | foxlit | vladinator? |
| 15:37.05 | Vlad|inator| | yes? |
| 15:37.05 | foxlit | Hm, I was going for a pun, but that's already your name. |
| 15:37.09 | Vlad|inator| | :P |
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| 15:42.47 | Vlad|inator| | I didn't know renaming would be such a problem |
| 15:44.33 | Lopeppeppy | Of course it is. |
| 15:44.57 | Vlad|inator| | had no problems on wowi and wowhead ;D |
| 15:45.22 | Fisker | A |
| 15:45.40 | Vlad|inator| | how can I link people my curseforge profile? |
| 15:45.46 | Vlad|inator| | is there a way to use authorid in the url? |
| 15:46.06 | Vlad|inator| | http://www.curseforge.com/profiles/28607/ |
| 15:46.10 | Vlad|inator| | does that lead you to my profile? |
| 15:46.22 | Semlar | no |
| 15:46.26 | Vlad|inator| | hmm |
| 15:46.28 | Semlar | it leads to your doom |
| 15:46.28 | Vlad|inator| | it did for me :P |
| 15:46.31 | Vlad|inator| | lol |
| 15:46.33 | Vlad|inator| | be serious now |
| 15:46.46 | Semlar | it goes to the same page it did before |
| 15:47.28 | Vlad|inator| | -_- |
| 15:47.30 | Semlar | so unless you have no projects, it hasn't updated for me |
| 15:48.48 | Vlad|inator| | Torhal! :P |
| 15:48.59 | Vlad|inator| | for me when I click http://www.curseforge.com/profiles/28607/ it leads me to my own profile |
| 15:49.42 | Semlar | it redirects to http://www.curseforge.com/profiles/vlad/ which hasn't changed |
| 15:49.47 | Vlad|inator| | lol |
| 15:49.50 | Vlad|inator| | so it does a redirect |
| 15:50.00 | Vlad|inator| | I thought the name redirects to the ID |
| 15:50.04 | Vlad|inator| | and not the other way around :P |
| 15:50.31 | Vlad|inator| | I'd consider this a serious flaw in the website code ^^ |
| 15:50.39 | Semlar | why |
| 15:50.51 | Vlad|inator| | because of situations like now :P |
| 15:51.43 | Vlad|inator| | my profile is now incognito :p |
| 15:51.52 | Vlad|inator| | you can't find me haha! |
| 15:52.20 | Vlad|inator| | for example click the addon http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/candy-buckets/ and look at Authors and click me :P |
| 15:52.38 | Vlad|inator| | since the urls read names and not author ids it redirects wrong ;D |
| 15:52.59 | Lopeppeppy | I don't, I get the blank Vlad page, no info. Unless that's correct. |
| 15:53.24 | Vlad|inator| | the profile you see is someone elses :P |
| 15:53.39 | Lopeppeppy | Stalker. |
| 15:53.51 | Vlad|inator| | he's been inactive, I figured I could get his name |
| 15:53.56 | Vlad|inator| | since I did the same on wowhead and wowi |
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| 15:54.13 | Vlad|inator| | is there a contact feature where the admins could maybe help out? |
| 15:59.10 | Vlad|inator| | oh well I'll just send an e-mail to wowace, curseforge and curse and see what happens, unless someone else knows better :P going afk to buy groceries meanwhile ;) see you later! |
| 15:59.33 | mikma | http://www.cyberpunk.net/ |
| 16:01.41 | Torhal | Vlad|inator|: I told you |
| 16:01.42 | Torhal | No renames |
| 16:01.51 | Torhal | What I could do is give another credit |
| 16:01.53 | Torhal | You go back |
| 16:01.58 | Torhal | We pretend this didn't happen. |
| 16:02.43 | Torhal | Vlad|inator|: Also, that would be sending three e-mails to the same people. |
| 16:03.10 | Unkle | Torhal You were never here. This didn't happen. Since you were never here, I can't remember what you didn't tell me. |
| 16:03.11 | nevcairiel | Torhal: some people are just that obnoxious =p |
| 16:03.21 | Torhal | Heh |
| 16:08.37 | Unkle | So the DNS server that was making me crazy yesterday? Zero changes, now behaving exactly as expected. |
| 16:08.52 | Lopeppeppy | Such a cat, that server. |
| 16:08.58 | Semlar | meow |
| 16:09.09 | Unkle | The cats at home, they are mad at me. |
| 16:11.47 | Lopeppeppy | I should expect so, Unkle. Much change in their fuzzy lives. Change breeds hate. |
| 16:12.31 | Semlar | plus they're cats |
| 16:12.39 | Semlar | all they do is hate |
| 16:12.52 | Unkle | One of them is mad because I wouldn't let him out at midnight. He was still sulking this morning. The other one was mad because I had the gall to sit in /her/ chair for hours to play WoW. |
| 16:13.11 | Semlar | you should sit on it |
| 16:13.27 | Lopeppeppy | Stealing the furnitures! The horror. |
| 16:13.55 | Lopeppeppy | Moose is upset because she could see the bottom of the food storage tub last night. She thinks she's gonna die now. |
| 16:14.04 | Semlar | assert your dominance |
| 16:16.10 | Lopeppeppy | I did, actually, I locked her out of the desk area where she was standing to howl at me. She's not happy about that, either. :) |
| 16:16.24 | Lopeppeppy | I make sure I'm the bigger cat in the house, I win all the contests. |
| 16:18.01 | Unkle | I win them all too. But they don't have to like it. |
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| 16:19.00 | Lopeppeppy | They'll learn, or they'll get a new house to possess. |
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| 16:37.24 | Adys | what's a good addon that replaces the npc selling UI by something more manageable and filterable? |
| 16:37.26 | Adys | like bagnon |
| 16:37.41 | Semlar | i think tuk has one |
| 16:38.25 | Semlar | gnomish vendor shrinker or goblin vendor filter |
| 16:38.57 | Adys | ah yeah |
| 16:39.01 | Adys | i remember looking it up |
| 16:39.20 | Semlar | there might be something newer that's similar |
| 16:39.59 | Semlar | i meant tekkub |
| 16:40.08 | Semlar | close enough |
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| 16:51.34 | Vlad|inator| | Torhal: I sent a mail and see what curse support says about it, maybe they can help free up vlad :P |
| 16:51.40 | Vlad|inator| | nevcairiel: are you saying I am obnoxious? :/ |
| 16:51.45 | Torhal | headdesks. |
| 16:51.48 | Unkle | ... |
| 16:51.51 | Torhal | Renaming on CurseForge is NOT possible. |
| 16:52.00 | Torhal | So I gave you another rename. |
| 16:52.04 | Torhal | Go back. Don't look back. |
| 16:52.07 | Vlad|inator| | >.< |
| 16:52.17 | nevcairiel | if renaming is not possible, how can you give him a rename? |
| 16:52.17 | Unkle | Torhal IS curse |
| 16:52.25 | Torhal | Mikk has had a fucked-up account for three years. |
| 16:52.26 | Vlad|inator| | lol |
| 16:52.30 | Torhal | nevcairiel: I did on Curse. |
| 16:52.32 | TC-Work | well, he is a bit of curse |
| 16:52.40 | Torhal | …which linked him to a Vlad account on CurseForge |
| 16:52.42 | Vlad|inator| | you are saying support does not have the required tools to do stuff like deleting an old account for instance? :o |
| 16:52.43 | Torhal | Didn't rename it. |
| 16:52.52 | Unkle | Yeah, but I'm trying to keep it simple for the guy who didn't get it. |
| 16:52.52 | Torhal | Vlad|inator|: I'm saying CurseForge is fucked up. |
| 16:53.28 | Vlad|inator| | theoretically, if the "vlad" on curseforge is deleted -won't that make http://www.curseforge.com/profiles/28607/ redirect properly to my new "Vlad"? |
| 16:53.49 | Torhal | I'm not going to argue; either take what I say at face value or don't. |
| 16:54.11 | Vlad|inator| | I believe you Torhal, I just don't see the problem in talking -_- |
| 16:54.22 | Torhal | There is no way short of direct DB access to rename/delete users on CurseForge. |
| 16:54.49 | Torhal | Because I've said how things are and no amount of talking about it will change it considering Mikk has had a screwed up username for years. |
| 16:55.07 | Arrowmaster | this is why i have one username i use everywhere |
| 16:55.08 | Vlad|inator| | I understand. I just try understand more about the problem :P |
| 16:55.18 | Fisker | fix bugs Stanzilla |
| 16:55.27 | Torhal | Ah, I was under the impression that you expected something to be done about it. |
| 16:55.28 | Torhal | Heh. |
| 16:55.41 | Vlad|inator| | well, I didn't know you are the "support" |
| 16:55.50 | Vlad|inator| | I thought you were a moderator, and that support had more tools at their disposal :P |
| 16:55.56 | Torhal | TBH I haven't touched CF code since April. |
| 16:55.59 | Vlad|inator| | EHM like most other sites EHM :P |
| 16:56.04 | Torhal | But that capability doesn't exist. |
| 16:56.15 | Torhal | ckk never added it and other things keep taking precedence. |
| 16:57.04 | Vlad|inator| | kind of a shame :< |
| 16:57.35 | Vlad|inator| | considering as n->infinity the longer systems like forums and such exist, the more accounts get abandoned, the weirder names get :P |
| 16:57.42 | TC-Work | eh, we all know ckk is a slacker |
| 16:57.58 | Vlad|inator| | so a feature to clear old accounts must be in place, unless you only want to have a site existing for a couple of decades at best :P |
| 16:58.20 | Torhal | No, it isn't in place. At all. That's what I keep saying :P |
| 16:58.40 | Torhal | I told you that before I gave the rename credit on Curse |
| 16:58.41 | Torhal | Heh |
| 16:59.09 | Vlad|inator| | it's fixed |
| 16:59.12 | Vlad|inator| | well better than nothing |
| 16:59.18 | Vlad|inator| | :D |
| 17:00.04 | Torhal | I didn't even consider your projects on CF else I wouldn't have given the rename to begin with, so sorry for that |
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| 17:00.36 | Vlad|inator| | I am sorry for not realizing you are support and only treated you like a moderator :P |
| 17:02.31 | TC-Work | what's that say about the way you treat mod's |
| 17:02.53 | Vlad|inator| | one thing is managing projects, forums, e.g. another thing is renaming an account ;) |
| 17:03.04 | Vlad|inator| | it just says I consider mods to be limited with powers :P |
| 17:03.35 | TC-Work | and apparently liars as well. |
| 17:03.51 | Vlad|inator| | lol |
| 17:04.14 | Vlad|inator| | I never questioned the problem, I just couldn't believe that there is really nothing to do about it, but it seems there isn't and it makes me /lol :D |
| 17:05.09 | Vlad|inator| | is there a way to make my irc auto retry a nick until its available? |
| 17:05.47 | Vladinator | :o |
| 17:06.10 | Vlad|inator| | a user is using Vlad but not registered, and it's been 1 year now |
| 17:06.15 | Vlad|inator| | if I can ninja... hmm :P |
| 17:09.08 | durcyn | if you can't find an auto nick script for your client, you don't deserve to breathe the same oxygen as the rest of humanity |
| 17:10.06 | Lopeppeppy | And I believe that on login you get some command prompts from freenode to help you along the way with nicks and so forth. |
| 17:13.14 | Vlad|inator| | lol |
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| 17:16.55 | Vlad|inator| | thing is I am not too much a nerd, I actually turn off my machine so it can't stay 24/7 trying to claim that nick :P |
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| 17:21.49 | AcidWeb | http://www.ted.com/talks/clifford_stoll_on_everything.html |
| 17:28.04 | Fisker | who do you have to kill for office 2013 Stanzilla ? |
| 17:28.47 | Stanzilla | dunno |
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| 17:31.42 | Vlad|inator| | lol |
| 17:31.53 | Vlad|inator| | anyone who tried candy buckets? :3 |
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| 17:34.48 | Fisker | sure Vlad|inator| |
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| 17:36.01 | Vlad|inator| | you liked it? also fun thing, you need to type Vl+tab to auto complete, or just Vl and add "ad" keys are right next to each other, it's almost the same like tabbing :D |
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| 17:38.34 | Vlad|inator| | why does the QUEST_FINISH fire before IsQuestFlaggedCompleted can return the right value? :P |
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| 17:40.53 | Lopeppeppy | Because they aren't the same thing? Why does player entering world trigger before some other thing that addon authors mistakenly try to use as the beginning of their addon? |
| 17:40.59 | Lopeppeppy | It just does. Know it and carry on. |
| 17:41.00 | Semlar | quest_complete? |
| 17:42.37 | Fisker | slaps Lopeppeppy around a bit with a large trout |
| 17:43.04 | Fisker | oh i haven't tried an addon named candy buckets Vlad|inator| |
| 17:43.15 | mikma | you only try ass candy addons |
| 17:43.17 | Vlad|inator| | you should if you wanna "catch them all" :P |
| 17:43.35 | Semlar | http://wowprogramming.com/docs/events/QUEST_FINISHED is this page accurate, it fires before every single quest event? |
| 17:43.57 | Fisker | takes one to know one mikma |
| 17:44.15 | mikma | fisker: i know ass |
| 17:44.35 | Vlad|inator| | quest_complete fires when you see the complete screen, each time |
| 17:44.36 | Fisker | mad detected |
| 17:44.47 | Vlad|inator| | quest_finished fires when the quest is delivered (i.e. you are done with it) |
| 17:45.01 | alestane | Doesn't IsQuestFlaggedCompleted require a round-trip, or something? |
| 17:45.05 | Semlar | it says "This event fires when the player completes any of the above stages of dialog, before the event presenting the next stage fires, or when the player declines or aborts interaction with the questgiver." |
| 17:45.34 | Vlad|inator| | I just go from what I experienced while /etracE :P |
| 17:45.42 | Vlad|inator| | btw why no PP in pet battles? |
| 17:45.46 | Vlad|inator| | having an endless battle |
| 17:45.50 | Vlad|inator| | shield, heal, quick attack |
| 17:45.53 | Vlad|inator| | both me and the enemy :P |
| 17:45.55 | Vlad|inator| | we can't die |
| 17:46.37 | Semlar | well, i'm just saying if this is accurate then the event doesn't actually represent when a quest is completed |
| 17:47.00 | Vlad|inator| | if you wanna talk consistency |
| 17:47.09 | Vlad|inator| | glhf figuring out the 3 different type of quest menus |
| 17:47.11 | Vlad|inator| | gossip, questframe and a mix |
| 17:47.12 | Vlad|inator| | :D |
| 17:47.24 | Vlad|inator| | all used in the game for quest giving, hehe |
| 17:48.29 | Semlar | did you look at the quest log events |
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| 17:49.15 | mikma | fisker: http://mikma.eu/bf3test/?id=364023450&w=M60E4 |
| 17:50.02 | Vlad|inator| | on wowprogramming I know I think they are outdated tbh, some do not occur as described |
| 17:50.16 | Semlar | what about this one http://wowprogramming.com/docs/events/UNIT_QUEST_LOG_CHANGED |
| 17:50.33 | Semlar | i don't even know what you're tracking |
| 17:50.43 | mikma | boobs |
| 17:50.48 | Semlar | boobs |
| 17:50.51 | Vlad|inator| | I wanna check, when I finish a quest, if that quest was on my "to do" list and if so remove it. |
| 17:51.13 | Vlad|inator| | but IsQuestFlaggedCompleted shows invalid value if I do that on QUEST_FINISHED even even when it fires after I turn in the quest (after QUEST_COMPLETED event) |
| 17:53.02 | Semlar | it's invalid after QUEST_COMPLETE? |
| 17:53.06 | Vlad|inator| | ... |
| 17:53.10 | Vlad|inator| | sigh |
| 17:53.22 | Vlad|inator| | blizzard removed the quest completed query thing |
| 17:53.28 | Vlad|inator| | now you can just IsQuestCompleted(questID) |
| 17:53.34 | Vlad|inator| | 1 or nil if you've done the quest or not |
| 17:54.00 | Vlad|inator| | that should be 1 when queried as the QUEST_FINISHED fires but it returns the old value as if the quest isn't completed |
| 17:54.14 | Vlad|inator| | but if I delay a bit then it properly returns 1 since I just finished that quest :P |
| 17:54.37 | Semlar | as far as i can tell, QUEST_FINISHED only represents that the dialog has been closed more or less, not that a quest has necessarily been turned in |
| 17:54.38 | Vlad|inator| | that's the problem, I wanna run my cleanup function at the appropriate time but QUEST_FINISHED is the last to fire when I turn in a quest. |
| 17:54.40 | foxlit | I don't think Vlad|inator| actually wants any help |
| 17:54.56 | Semlar | and QUEST_COMPLETE just fires when you're looking at the turn-in page |
| 17:54.57 | Vlad|inator| | I do, but QUEST_COMPLETED doesn't work either :P |
| 17:55.11 | Vlad|inator| | yeah |
| 17:55.13 | Semlar | these events don't actually correspond to the quests themselves |
| 17:55.17 | mikma | well put the eventtracker on and go complete a quest with lvl1 char |
| 17:55.18 | Vlad|inator| | jupp |
| 17:55.25 | Semlar | use the quest log events |
| 17:55.26 | Vlad|inator| | I've done that mikma |
| 17:55.37 | mikma | you've done this mikma? |
| 17:55.39 | Vlad|inator| | but wouldn't the quest log events fire too much? |
| 17:56.09 | Semlar | are you worried about performance issues |
| 17:56.12 | Vlad|inator| | I tried to avoid using those quest log update and such, since they fire very often and not sure if it's smart to iterate a table with 10k entries each time, as an example :P |
| 17:56.59 | Semlar | that's a lot of entries |
| 17:57.31 | Vlad|inator| | I shall try using the UNIT_QUEST_LOG_CHANGED one with RegisterUnitEvent |
| 17:57.33 | Semlar | but wouldn't you only need to check what quests you had before and after it fired |
| 17:58.11 | Vlad|inator| | well the list does shrink |
| 17:58.32 | Vlad|inator| | was just an example :P |
| 18:00.10 | Semlar | are the table indexes quest ids? |
| 18:04.51 | Vlad|inator| | actually I tweaked a bit on my structure so I only shrink the list, and yesi t's indexed quests and no they aren't 10k of them :D |
| 18:05.47 | Semlar | why don't you just figure out which quest was completed by comparing the old quest log to the new one and then you won't have to iterate over your table |
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| 18:12.20 | Vlad|inator| | I am brushing up on my candy buckets addon |
| 18:13.16 | Vlad|inator| | it has all the quests in a table with some data, at player_login it will filter all the completed quests and plot the others on the map, and as I finish quests it will reiterate to remove the once I finished... unsure if it will be as stable if I use the GetQuestID (quest log API that returns questID) hmm |
| 18:13.21 | Vlad|inator| | but it works atm :) |
| 18:14.06 | Semlar | every time you finish a quest you query the server for your completed quests and try to remove them from the table? |
| 18:14.37 | Vlad|inator| | I don't have control over the query process, I can just ask if a quest is done or not. They made it internally cache on it's own. |
| 18:14.41 | Vlad|inator| | its* |
| 18:15.30 | Semlar | well i was just saying for efficiency's sake if you have for example a gigantic table you don't want to iterate over every time you could just figure out which quest was actually completed and then pop it off using the quest id |
| 18:15.47 | Vlad|inator| | yeah |
| 18:15.51 | Semlar | i don't know how much of a difference it actually makes |
| 18:22.40 | Vlad|inator| | seems UNIT_QUEST_LOG_CHANGED won't fire when alone :D |
| 18:24.24 | Semlar | QUEST_WATCH_UPDATE looked like it might help but i don't know if it fires on completion, it gives you the quest index |
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| 18:27.54 | Semlar | or maybe just hook the GetQuestReward function |
| 18:27.57 | Semlar | screw events |
| 18:33.09 | Vlad|inator| | yeah :P |
| 18:38.23 | Ycarene | Does the nUI developer come in here? |
| 18:38.33 | Semlar | is that nefi |
| 18:39.04 | Semlar | who makes that |
| 18:39.54 | Ycarene | His name on wowi's site is spiel2001 |
| 18:40.10 | Semlar | ~seen spiel2001 |
| 18:40.15 | purl | i haven't seen 'spiel2001', Semlar |
| 18:40.24 | Cairenn | He doesn't IRC |
| 18:40.26 | Semlar | well i tried |
| 18:40.37 | Cairenn | PM him on the site |
| 18:41.20 | Ycarene | ahh, ok. |
| 18:42.34 | Ycarene | Thanks Cair |
| 18:43.41 | Cairenn | np :) |
| 18:43.56 | Semlar | ah neffi made nfUI, that's confusing |
| 18:44.35 | Semlar | nobody else make any UIs that start with N |
| 18:44.46 | Ycarene | Gonna try blowing the config files before I bother him with it. |
| 18:46.16 | Semlar | is something wrong with it? |
| 18:46.27 | Semlar | it looks like it was updated yesterday |
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| 18:48.28 | Ycarene | No debuffs shown and can't click links in chat bar. |
| 18:48.52 | Semlar | runnin anything else? |
| 18:49.10 | Ycarene | With just nui running and it's config files deleted, same issue. |
| 18:49.17 | Ycarene | Not running a custom skin or anything. |
| 18:50.04 | Ycarene | Gonna try links w/o nui see if it's something "under" the UI. |
| 18:50.23 | Semlar | maybe the last update has some bugs |
| 18:51.05 | Ycarene | Bah, my bad, the link thing wasn't nUI's fault. |
| 18:51.09 | TC-Work | http://www.thinkgeek.com/product/f0f2/images/15507/ so if you use the Ironman decals are you just stating your whole family are all douchebags? |
| 18:51.30 | TC-Work | albeit amusing ones |
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| 19:33.41 | olafski | any of you know whether I can change the order of the bars in Shadowed Unit Frames? =) |
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| 19:49.40 | Arrowmaster | ah this is disappointing, trying to watch a 1080p rip on my n7 and its got serious deblocking issues |
| 19:50.00 | Arrowmaster | hardware decoder has to be disabling deblocking to keep up |
| 19:50.15 | Arrowmaster | oh yeah now its lagging bad |
| 19:51.15 | Arrowmaster | not sure what i was expected from a 1080p rip of REDLINE, that can probably kill most hardware decoders |
| 19:56.58 | TC-Work | "Your camera hangs upside down. This unnerves some people, but it really is a better way to dangle." *snicker* |
| 20:03.24 | Lopeppeppy | How's it hangin' ? |
| 20:03.40 | TC-Work | Down and to the left |
| 20:04.13 | Lopeppeppy | Doesn't that cause blisters? |
| 20:05.29 | TC-Work | If my pants are made out of sandpaper quite possibly |
| 20:06.38 | Lopeppeppy | Avoiding sandpaper in the underwear seems like a key survival skill for humans. |
| 20:07.08 | TC-Work | 100% cotton boxers for me kthx |
| 20:10.15 | Vlad|inator| | legendary pet quality... fuck me |
| 20:10.32 | Vlad|inator| | http://i.imgur.com/V4L2H.jpg |
| 20:10.51 | Vlad|inator| | why don't blizzard make stones to upgrade pets to legendary quality? :p |
| 20:11.12 | Arrowmaster | they probably will later |
| 20:11.36 | TC-Work | http://www.trekkiedating.com/ >.< |
| 20:14.11 | Lopeppeppy | Convention dating. Hawt. |
| 20:14.24 | Lopeppeppy | Who's my date for Arisia, besides alestane? |
| 20:15.02 | TC-Work | what is arisia? |
| 20:15.10 | TC-Work | nvm, i should google |
| 20:15.25 | alestane | Our friend Speck is supposed to be there for the weekend. |
| 20:16.58 | alestane | Listen to the song "Conventional Lover" some time, Peppy. |
| 20:18.42 | Vlad|inator| | I killed her legendary slaves! |
| 20:18.43 | Vlad|inator| | :D |
| 20:19.18 | Vlad|inator| | I am the new champion of world of warcraft of gaming! |
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| 20:19.39 | Torhal | formats Vlad|inator|. |
| 20:19.47 | Vlad|inator| | don't tab my name :( |
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| 20:20.03 | Torhal | o.O |
| 20:20.09 | Vlad|inator| | it's just Vlad :P |
| 20:20.16 | TC-Work | then chage it |
| 20:20.19 | Torhal | Clearly, it isn't. |
| 20:20.19 | TC-Work | change* |
| 20:20.28 | Vlad|inator| | I couldn't use () in the name hehe |
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| 20:20.44 | foxlit | we could just call him Bob. |
| 20:20.45 | Vlad|inator| | I just want a slow transition so people don't think Vladinator disappeared :P |
| 20:21.04 | Semlar | yeah nobody's going to recognize your new name |
| 20:21.13 | TC-Work | I don't think you have to worry about that, you talk enough for 5 people |
| 20:21.14 | Vlad|inator| | exactly! |
| 20:23.39 | Torhal | Vampire. |
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| 21:56.50 | TC-Work | ~tumbleweed |
| 21:56.51 | purl | ACTION rolls across the empty channel to the theme of The Good, The Bad & The Ugly. |
| 22:00.29 | p3lim | Got a custom tooltip, adding an item to it with :SetItemByID(id), but on the script OnTooltipSetItem :NumLines() return 0, any reason why? |
| 22:01.36 | p3lim | Also, OnShow never fires |
| 22:02.02 | Semlar | is it being shown |
| 22:02.03 | mikma | pew pew |
| 22:02.13 | TC-Work | ~lart mikma |
| 22:02.13 | purl | keeps mailing mikma free America Online CDs until he drowns |
| 22:02.42 | p3lim | Obviously not, I do call :Show() on it though |
| 22:03.08 | Semlar | i mean if this is for scanning you might want to make it visible so you can see what it's doing |
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| 22:04.50 | p3lim | Doesn't show |
| 22:04.58 | Semlar | does it have an anchor |
| 22:05.20 | p3lim | :SetOwner(UIParent, 'BOTTOMLEFT', 200, 200) |
| 22:06.14 | p3lim | Do I need to use a template on it? |
| 22:06.26 | Semlar | just GameTooltip |
| 22:06.35 | p3lim | Only using this now: CreateFrame('GameTooltip', 'TestName') |
| 22:07.13 | Semlar | i think i always inherited GameTooltipTemplate |
| 22:07.20 | Semlar | i don't know if it's strictly necessary |
| 22:07.25 | p3lim | I'll test |
| 22:08.00 | p3lim | Heh that template doesn't exist :p |
| 22:08.15 | Semlar | >_> |
| 22:08.26 | Semlar | admittedly i'm looking at some pretty old code here |
| 22:08.54 | foxlit | http://wow.go-hero.net/framexml/16048/GameTooltipTemplate.xml#3 |
| 22:09.10 | p3lim | Yeah it is still there, but I got an error :p |
| 22:09.32 | p3lim | Now it works :s |
| 22:09.33 | foxlit | the simplest explanation is that you typoed the name. |
| 22:09.36 | p3lim | Ye |
| 22:10.13 | Semlar | all i do is SetOwner(UIParent,"ANCHOR_NONE") onload |
| 22:10.38 | Semlar | and inherit that template |
| 22:11.04 | Semlar | then when i want to use it i call ClearLines and SetHyperlink or in your case probably the item one |
| 22:11.29 | p3lim | Seems like the template is mandatory |
| 22:35.44 | Gnarfoz | anyone know if there's still an armory page detailing realm firsts? |
| 22:37.47 | nebula169 | i couldn't find one ;[ |
| 22:40.53 | pompy | "there's still" .. there was one before? :O .. they should have just made it show in one of the UIs! |
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| 22:45.59 | nebula169 | there was a realm achievement page before, yes, show'd all the realm first! raid achievements along with leveling ones |
| 22:47.26 | jnwhiteh | Semlar: the events are from the 1st edition mostly |
| 22:47.42 | jnwhiteh | I keep the list up there because knowing what ALL events is good, but Blizzard changes WHEN they fire way too often to keep up with them =/ |
| 22:48.57 | Ackis | holy shit, women related sub-reddits have to be the most unfriendly places in the world |
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| 23:02.30 | TC-Work | Ackis: s/sub-reddit/sub-human reddit/ is slightly more accurate in general |
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| 23:12.52 | F16Gaming | *engage pvp with a shadow priest* *priest fears me* *i run into box* *i get stuck in box and can't get out* *priest runs away* |
| 23:28.33 | mckenziemc | fears F16Gaming into a shadow priest |
| 23:31.37 | Semlar | jnwhiteh: ah, i suppose that's not too surprising |
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| 23:42.02 | Gnarfoz | [00:40:47] <pompy> "there's still" .. there was one before? :O .. they should have just made it show in one of the UIs! <-- like nebula169 said, there was one, but I think it last worked/was available for WotLK, you can't even reach it anymore now, just redirects to battle.net/wow/ |
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