| 00:00.14 | Kemayo | Ackis: http://www.wowace.com/addons/handynotes_lostandfound/ |
| 00:00.36 | Vladinator | if anyone cares here you go http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=21376#info checking a issue with savedvariables :P |
| 00:04.39 | Ackis | Kemayo: just approved it, thanks :D all the data is in already I assume? |
| 00:05.00 | Kemayo | Ackis: Jade Forest only right now. I'm going through and adding the rest. |
| 00:34.59 | Shirik | https://i.chzbgr.com/completestore/12/9/27/MB6Ul08ckku8QBBhWBh3-Q2.jpg |
| 00:36.27 | Thunder_Child | Shirik: it even comes with a penis |
| 00:50.46 | Kemayo | Ackis: Okay, data for all zones. |
| 00:51.01 | Ackis | Kemayo: wicked thanks! |
| 01:15.43 | MysticalOS | kemayo, any way to scan the objects with objects cache or anything or no? |
| 01:23.08 | Gnarfoz | is it easy to check if a vendor window is open? |
| 01:24.48 | Kemayo | MysticalOS: Alas, not that I can find. There's no tooltip for it, for instance. |
| 01:25.27 | starlon | never was there a tank that was as dumb and noobish as that one was |
| 01:25.35 | starlon | :/ |
| 01:25.38 | starlon | so bad |
| 01:26.21 | starlon | DK can't hold aoe aggro |
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| 01:38.59 | Vladinator | http://blip.tv/blizzblues-with-darnell/blizz-blues-11-is-hunters-op-4964595 |
| 01:57.41 | Shirik | finally, Apple comes out with an ad that makes sense |
| 01:57.56 | Shirik | they finally have latched onto the whole "Galaxy S III is too big" and are making ads about it |
| 01:58.05 | Shirik | How it took them this long I have on idea |
| 01:58.34 | foxlit | wait, what? |
| 01:58.43 | foxlit | "our competitors' products totally suck"? |
| 01:58.57 | foxlit | is that seriously the pitch now? |
| 01:59.31 | Shirik | no that's not what they said |
| 01:59.39 | Shirik | but that's what they were doing, it's pretty obvious |
| 02:00.00 | Shirik | they basically said in the ad "hey look at how it perfectly fits your hand, and the screen size is exactly the size of a normal hand, yeah, we know, crazy coincidence" |
| 02:00.01 | Alram | link to ad |
| 02:00.22 | Shirik | which is basically "galaxy s3 is too big" which I've been saying forever, even though they keep making ads "LOL BIGGER THAN IPHONE" |
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| 02:00.46 | Alram | s3 is slightly too big for my hand yes |
| 02:00.51 | Shirik | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1Rc4MDmr8o |
| 02:01.18 | foxlit | http://www.apple.com/iphone/videos/#tv-ads-thumb |
| 02:01.26 | Alram | dat jeff daniels voice |
| 02:01.34 | Cairenn | Da-de-da-DON-daaaa |
| 02:01.34 | Cairenn | Da-de-da-don-daaaa da-de-da-don-daaaa da-de-da-don-daaaa |
| 02:02.17 | Alram | but hey steve jobs once said 7" tablets are a bad idea |
| 02:02.28 | Cairenn | wonders who the first person who figures out what movie I'm watching atm will be |
| 02:03.15 | Shirik | knows nothing about movies |
| 02:03.33 | Kraps | Alram, whoa i just read a wired article that said that |
| 02:03.59 | Kraps | (they were reviewing 7" tablets" |
| 02:04.00 | Cairenn | Probably about the 5 most classic (music) tones in geek culture :p |
| 02:04.01 | Kraps | ) |
| 02:04.19 | Alram | i had the privilege of using a nexus 7 last week |
| 02:04.20 | Thunder_Child | x files? |
| 02:04.25 | Cairenn | bah, no |
| 02:04.26 | Alram | it indeed is a pretty good form factor |
| 02:04.33 | Alram | better than my gtab 10.1 |
| 02:04.52 | Cairenn | CEot3rdK |
| 02:04.53 | Thunder_Child | I think the number one tune was close encounters actually |
| 02:04.56 | Amarande | Alram: Steve Jobs is also the guy who always touted how well Apple devices work together with each other :) |
| 02:05.02 | durcyn | Cairenn: apocalypse now |
| 02:05.03 | Cairenn | Exactly |
| 02:05.07 | Cairenn | No |
| 02:05.08 | Amarande | Let's put it this way, I remember when Googling to find out why my Android phone had issues with power draw |
| 02:05.20 | Amarande | I found a forum post in which someone complained because their MAC rejected their IPHONE due to power draw issues. |
| 02:05.37 | durcyn | you telling me you wereng singing Die Walkure in text there? |
| 02:05.39 | Amarande | Let's think on this a little, then think about Steve Jobs's insistence about how well Apple products go together like they're one happy (i)family :P |
| 02:05.39 | Thunder_Child | I still have never seen that movie |
| 02:05.40 | Cairenn | Thunder_Child: 1 'tune', 5 *tones* |
| 02:05.51 | Cairenn | so yeah, you got it right :) |
| 02:06.24 | Shirik | ohh |
| 02:06.27 | Shirik | I know what it is now |
| 02:06.38 | Thunder_Child | ... |
| 02:06.43 | Cairenn | lol |
| 02:06.58 | durcyn | still looks like Wagner to me |
| 02:07.57 | Thunder_Child | John Williams |
| 02:07.59 | Humbedooh | I was gonna say Strauss, but that doesn't match exactly |
| 02:08.07 | Alram | ha Cairenn its funny you mentioned that |
| 02:08.15 | Alram | i was just listening to the new deadmau5 track |
| 02:08.17 | Shirik | You know what I always hated about that song |
| 02:08.19 | Alram | its based on said tones |
| 02:08.30 | Shirik | it has a defined key, but doesn't end on the right note |
| 02:08.34 | Shirik | "song" |
| 02:08.48 | Iriel | Cairenn: one of my passwords (20+ years ago) was CEOTTK |
| 02:08.49 | Amarande | Shirik: heh, I've been pondering getting a Galaxy S III when I get my next phone upgrade |
| 02:08.54 | Shirik | too big |
| 02:08.55 | Cairenn | *nod* |
| 02:09.00 | Cairenn | Iriel: hehehe |
| 02:09.04 | Alram | S3 is very nice, but yeah it is big |
| 02:09.10 | Alram | Prefer it over my SII though |
| 02:09.14 | Amarande | Then again, I'm the kind of guy who perpetually uses Bluetooth and actually uses my phone for tablety type functions pretty often |
| 02:09.30 | Alram | get a note 2 then :p |
| 02:09.35 | Amarande | especially Words with Friends, the WoW Armory app, a fair amount of web browsing and pretty frequent use of Google Books |
| 02:09.38 | Alram | thablet |
| 02:09.42 | Alram | or whatever they call it |
| 02:09.50 | Thunder_Child | phablet |
| 02:10.02 | Cairenn | Shirik: that's because it wasn't actually a 'song' |
| 02:10.07 | Cairenn | it was a 'conversation' |
| 02:10.09 | Shirik | I know |
| 02:10.13 | Cairenn | but yeah |
| 02:10.23 | Shirik | but they could have picked other notes to make me not hate it ._. |
| 02:10.27 | Cairenn | nod |
| 02:10.56 | Thunder_Child | He won two grammys for it, so i suspect you are a minority |
| 02:11.35 | Shirik | wait |
| 02:11.40 | Shirik | who did |
| 02:11.44 | Thunder_Child | williams |
| 02:11.58 | Alram | they give out those awards to anyone these days |
| 02:12.25 | Alram | next year they'll give one to a homeless guy that had a background cameo in the avengers |
| 02:12.28 | Thunder_Child | well when it was up for the academy award it was against himself for star wars |
| 02:12.28 | Alram | you wait |
| 02:12.38 | Thunder_Child | you can imagine which won |
| 02:13.11 | Thunder_Child | actually, you don't need to imagine it |
| 02:17.04 | Kraps | "Gnomes have only 4 fingers per hand" waaaaat |
| 02:17.17 | Humbedooh | gnomes are gnomish |
| 02:17.19 | Humbedooh | also a fact |
| 02:17.21 | Kraps | why was this never mentioned |
| 02:22.49 | Kraps | "Trolls are 7-8 feet tall, the tallest race in Azeroth" |
| 02:23.23 | kd3 | oh, man, what a difference a new pair of shoes makes |
| 02:23.34 | Amarande | trolls are taller than night elves, or such giants as tauren and male draenei? |
| 02:23.52 | Amarande | or are draenei not considered a race "of Azeroth" :S |
| 02:24.04 | kd3 | they're not. draenei come from eredar |
| 02:24.13 | Kraps | according to the brady pdf that comes with the game |
| 02:24.28 | kd3 | http://www.wowpedia.org/Template:Azeroth_natives |
| 02:41.19 | Kraps | look at that sexy undead chick |
| 02:45.26 | Kraps | wow they break down every spec and tell you how to play them |
| 02:53.47 | Shirik | hm |
| 02:53.52 | Shirik | Someone posted on Facebook "Best Kai Kickoff I have been to. Proud to be a Beta. ___kai___" |
| 02:53.58 | Shirik | any my first thought was "what is this, Python?" |
| 02:55.38 | Kraps | Shirik, you're a disc priest? |
| 02:55.49 | Shirik | I was |
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| 02:56.04 | Kraps | oh |
| 02:56.14 | Shirik | I haven't played MoP |
| 02:56.23 | Kraps | oh you havent played--- |
| 02:56.30 | Kraps | yes |
| 02:56.43 | Shirik | I doubt I'll have time for it |
| 02:56.50 | Kraps | ever???? |
| 02:56.57 | Seerah | Shirik: I haven't played yet either :( :( |
| 02:57.01 | Shirik | I have become insanely busy |
| 02:57.14 | Shirik | even when I'm not busy they find ways to make me busy |
| 02:57.23 | kd3 | as long as you're getting paid for it |
| 02:57.34 | Shirik | I am, but I kinda feel bad for it |
| 02:57.44 | Shirik | I got sent to a military base a week ago |
| 02:57.55 | Shirik | I'm pretty confident my presence was not needed |
| 02:58.14 | Kraps | to do what |
| 02:58.36 | kd3 | stuff |
| 02:59.01 | Kraps | yes quite |
| 03:01.55 | Shirik | to provide support |
| 03:02.04 | pompy | http://www.cnn.com/2012/10/06/world/meast/israel-drone-downed/index.html?hpt=hp_t1 :O |
| 03:02.20 | Shirik | I'm a good software support person because I work on the stuff that runs when things go wrong |
| 03:02.36 | Shirik | except if nothing goes wrong |
| 03:02.40 | Shirik | well... my stuff does nothing |
| 03:05.37 | Shirik | I did get to test out the ios 6 pano feature though! |
| 03:08.30 | nilyaK | pet battles are pretty fun |
| 03:09.23 | Shirik | pet battles have the potential to make my judging more lucrative :D |
| 03:10.16 | Thunder_Child | Is it all about money with you Shirik? |
| 03:10.37 | Shirik | Well I love judging, but if I make some money from it too, that's not bad, right? |
| 03:11.17 | Thunder_Child | no, but thats not what you sounded like |
| 03:11.59 | Shirik | Some day I'll figure out why I like it |
| 03:12.15 | Shirik | it's kinda weird enjoying something without actually knowing why |
| 03:36.36 | Shirik | puppy being eaten: http://imgur.com/a/YDqpz#zVsYE |
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| 03:46.24 | Dagmar | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:46.48 | Dagmar | I mean, it's not like you're going to be able to bust someone for smuggling berries |
| 04:03.35 | Shirik | Dagmar: Increased demand for pets |
| 04:15.45 | Shirik | ok I have always felt the cello is the best instrument ever |
| 04:15.48 | Shirik | but this proves it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ry4BzonlVlw&feature=youtu.be |
| 04:17.06 | Arrowmaster | http://imgur.com/r/funny/6SFwr |
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| 04:18.01 | kd3 | I think I like this better; http://imgur.com/r/funny/NghXp |
| 04:18.53 | Shirik | I have one of those, they work very well |
| 04:18.56 | Shirik | only takes seconds |
| 04:19.39 | Shirik | I just realized |
| 04:19.49 | Shirik | today's kids have no idea how important it was to have a turbo rewinder |
| 04:20.02 | kd3 | be kind. rewind. |
| 04:20.53 | Arrowmaster | i think theres still a vcr rewinder burried under stuff on counter behind me in the corner |
| 04:41.41 | starlon | Anyone having issues with Bartender not allowing you to move buttons? My friend is having an issue where some buttons won't move but others will. |
| 04:43.16 | starlon | Bartender4 that is |
| 04:49.14 | starlon | Anyone know when the black market gets new items? |
| 05:04.38 | Ackis | midnight server time isn't it |
| 05:13.27 | starlon | ah |
| 05:13.37 | kd3 | the fu? |
| 05:13.53 | starlon | the proud? |
| 05:13.57 | kd3 | "[Draranine] confesses: I go into dungeons not to make Azeroth a better place, but just for loot" |
| 05:25.03 | Shirik | starlon: Hover over the button, /script GetMouseFocus():StartMoving() |
| 05:25.06 | Shirik | move it where you want |
| 05:25.13 | Shirik | then /script GetMouseFocus():StopMovingOrSizing() |
| 05:25.24 | Shirik | p.s. that function name is evil |
| 05:25.26 | Shirik | that is all |
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| 05:55.14 | karl_w_w | Shirik: evil how? |
| 05:55.26 | Semlar | StopMovingOrSizing? |
| 05:57.04 | Semlar | at least it's descriptiev |
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| 06:11.00 | starlon | Stop it's hammer time, I like to move it move it, king size it. gottit |
| 06:11.17 | starlon | <-- bored |
| 06:11.45 | starlon | and sleepy |
| 06:15.41 | Fisker | Shirik |
| 06:16.30 | Fisker | cogwheel |
| 06:16.34 | Fisker | why didn't you get an iphone 5? |
| 06:16.41 | Fisker | poor? |
| 06:16.51 | cogwheel | cuz it's an iphone |
| 06:17.32 | Fisker | sounds like poor to me |
| 06:19.17 | cogwheel | yes, iphones are poor devices indeed |
| 06:19.33 | Semlar | ZING! |
| 06:19.47 | starlon | lol |
| 06:20.53 | Fisker | siri says its the best phone around |
| 06:20.56 | Fisker | why would she lie? |
| 06:21.48 | Semlar | that's just like, her opinion, man |
| 06:22.51 | Fisker | pls |
| 06:22.54 | Fisker | machines can't have opinions |
| 06:24.28 | Semlar | that's racist |
| 06:25.08 | Fisker | pls |
| 06:25.11 | Fisker | they're not even a race |
| 06:25.35 | Semlar | that's even more racist! |
| 06:27.38 | starlon | Fisker: http://imgur.com/208J7 |
| 06:27.46 | starlon | Race == mechanical :P |
| 06:28.40 | Semlar | man that blue on black is impossible to read |
| 06:29.11 | starlon | That's actually a very dark blue. ;) |
| 06:29.34 | Semlar | that blue on a darker shade of blue is very difficult to read |
| 06:29.40 | starlon | nods. |
| 06:30.04 | Fisker | not as hard as the shade of blue on the same shade of blue |
| 06:30.39 | starlon | It was also cropped with imgur's feature, so the quality is deeply poor. |
| 06:30.59 | Fisker | i once cropped a guy |
| 06:31.14 | Fisker | and my glass of milk have turned into an empty glass |
| 06:31.15 | starlon | focused in on the genitals did we? |
| 06:31.18 | Fisker | what is this sorcery |
| 06:31.19 | starlon | :/ |
| 06:31.57 | starlon | apologizes to Fisker. |
| 06:33.07 | Fisker | cogwheel |
| 06:33.21 | Fisker | should i have opted for the more than 4 hours of sleep model? |
| 06:34.00 | Semlar | you can sleep when you're dead |
| 06:35.12 | Fisker | looking forward to it |
| 06:35.39 | starlon | luckily it's only companion pets that fall into the hard-to-read category. might be others on horde side, dunno |
| 06:36.29 | Semlar | everything's hard to read when you're illiterate |
| 06:37.36 | starlon | zzingg |
| 06:37.58 | Semlar | :( |
| 06:39.15 | starlon | Ah that blue's from UnitSelectionColor() |
| 06:39.24 | starlon | And the background blue's from CowTip |
| 06:39.50 | starlon | Guess I could brighten it. |
| 06:49.04 | starlon | ah screw it. |
| 06:49.13 | starlon | leaves it as-is. |
| 06:49.25 | starlon | Friendly NPCs looked like monks when I did that. |
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| 10:44.52 | Industrial | you know subwoofers are fun |
| 10:45.03 | Industrial | and I don't mind hearing one from your car for a few seconds/minutes |
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| 10:45.56 | Industrial | but if its hoompah band music ... |
| 11:09.43 | znf | Who's EU / Horde and has done the klaxxi dailies today? |
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| 13:16.19 | cbreak | I want an opie slice for waterelemental freeze |
| 13:16.23 | cbreak | but only in frost spec |
| 13:21.07 | cbreak | I can use a proxy macro to make me being able to cast it |
| 13:21.23 | cbreak | but the slice is also there in arcane spec |
| 13:29.42 | F16Gaming | so everything in orgrimmar just instantly died |
| 13:29.44 | F16Gaming | players, npcs, critters |
| 13:29.48 | F16Gaming | everything died |
| 13:29.56 | F16Gaming | combat log just says "You died" |
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| 13:30.56 | F16Gaming | anyone else got it as well? |
| 13:32.32 | d87 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6KbSYnxJWlU |
| 13:32.36 | zenzelezz | sounds peculiar |
| 13:34.28 | F16Gaming | skeletons all over the place |
| 13:34.41 | F16Gaming | [15:34:29] [G] [90:Sèrene]: this has happened on the us realms too |
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| 13:34.46 | F16Gaming | seems to be global? |
| 13:36.49 | F16Gaming | no durability loss either |
| 13:42.08 | Vladinator | sounds like a GM using his abilities for fun :P |
| 13:42.55 | Vladinator | everything in SW also just died now, people talked about it in general |
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| 13:45.00 | F16Gaming | and it seems wow filters out mmo-champion links |
| 13:45.09 | F16Gaming | tried to paste a link in guild but it never arrived |
| 13:45.16 | F16Gaming | replaced "mmo" with "emm emm oh" and it worked |
| 13:45.17 | F16Gaming | ._o |
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| 13:47.47 | spiralofhope | pokes Vladinator |
| 13:47.52 | Vladinator | hey! |
| 13:48.23 | spiralofhope | Heya |
| 13:48.25 | Vladinator | I take it 1.1.1 didn't work either? |
| 13:48.43 | spiralofhope | 1.1.1 isn't up yet, I can't test it. =/ |
| 13:48.50 | Vladinator | ah |
| 13:48.53 | Vladinator | let me send it to you |
| 13:49.11 | spiralofhope | Righto. Do you have a public svn/git repo? |
| 13:49.17 | cbreak | food poisoning |
| 13:49.50 | Vladinator | http://vlacula.no-ip.com/BattlePetTabs.zip |
| 13:49.53 | Vladinator | I got this :P |
| 13:50.05 | Vladinator | I just use curse sadly, hehe, no repo, not ALL my addons at least. |
| 13:51.51 | spiralofhope | I thought curseforge provided a repository.. hrm. |
| 13:51.57 | Vladinator | it does but you don't have to use it :p |
| 13:52.41 | Vladinator | it's very weird you see, because it works fine for me lol |
| 13:53.07 | Vladinator | but I am trying anything that could be the issue and to work around that, since it's only happening to my addon then it's an addon issue, but what platform are you running? mac? 32bit? |
| 13:53.41 | Vladinator | maybe it's a platform issue, because another addon of mine breaks the default guild UI and calendar for no reason so there is another weird problem I've encountered others report :P |
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| 13:55.19 | spiralofhope | I'm running it with Wine on Linux. I can't imagine it's an issue on that end, since everything else is working fine. Nuking the config file and seeing the file be recreated demonstrates it has all the permissions it needs. |
| 13:55.31 | Vladinator | ah |
| 13:55.50 | spiralofhope | 1.1.1 shows no change - made the tabs, quit, restarted, no tabs are seen. Had no addons loaded except for bare essentials for switching addons/logging errors. |
| 13:55.53 | Vladinator | no but it may be a issue with loading order or something, being handled somehow differently :P |
| 13:56.03 | Vladinator | hmm |
| 13:56.42 | Vladinator | what if you only use the addon without any other addons? |
| 13:56.47 | Vladinator | just to have that checked :P |
| 13:56.53 | spiralofhope | The game itself thinks it's running on Windows, so this ought to effect many others if that's somehow the issue |
| 13:57.00 | spiralofhope | alrighty, one sec |
| 13:58.28 | spiralofhope | All addons disabled, no change. |
| 13:58.30 | Vladinator | ok |
| 14:03.07 | Vladinator | spiralofhope: I wrote in a private chat, hehe. |
| 14:04.10 | Vladinator | I have hope, just need a spiral now |
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| 15:11.59 | foxlit | http://go-hero.net/i/bars.html << I wonder if there's a pattern there |
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| 15:19.20 | Thunder_Child | no |
| 15:24.06 | foxlit | do you see anything other than a blank page? |
| 15:26.55 | Thunder_Child | yes |
| 15:29.20 | kullervo | how do I make an addon hide when leaving combat? |
| 15:29.45 | Shirik | respond to the leaving combat event |
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| 15:46.07 | Vladinator | player regen enabled event |
| 15:50.03 | Shirik | I'm pretty sure that fires while still in lockdown |
| 15:50.11 | Shirik | or I might have them backwards |
| 15:50.17 | Shirik | I guess I didn't ask whether or not that matters |
| 15:50.26 | Shirik | I assumed it was a secure frame |
| 15:50.58 | End_ | I think both events fire just outside of lockdown |
| 15:51.24 | Shirik | there was one event that was supposed to signal "I am leaving combat lockdown" |
| 15:51.27 | End_ | right before you enter, and right after you exit, although I'm more certain about the former |
| 15:52.25 | Shirik | I'll have to go look at my notes again |
| 15:52.31 | Shirik | long time since I dealt with that directly |
| 15:55.32 | Arrowmaster | from what i remember the regen enabled/disabled events were the only events that signaled when you entered or left combat |
| 15:56.45 | Shirik | yeah I think I confused things |
| 15:57.10 | Shirik | so much nicer when you have an abstraction layer |
| 15:57.15 | Shirik | except then you forget these things |
| 16:17.17 | Adys | Anyone wants to purchase a copy of Worms Revolution? I'm buying a 4-pack |
| 16:17.33 | Adys | this comes with worms armageddon |
| 16:17.35 | Adys | (steam) |
| 16:18.49 | Kraps | Vladinator, ,,, |
| 16:19.25 | Vladinator | yes Kraps? |
| 16:19.32 | Kraps | oh never mind |
| 16:19.56 | karl_w_w | Kraps, ,,, |
| 16:20.01 | Kraps | i was confused about a similar battle pet team addon |
| 16:20.22 | karl_w_w | you hear that Vladinator, you have competition |
| 16:20.43 | Vladinator | I only saw my name lol, what competition? |
| 16:21.33 | karl_w_w | wow the narcissism! :P |
| 16:21.42 | karl_w_w | you only see your name and nothing else |
| 16:22.24 | Vladinator | Kraps only said my name lol |
| 16:23.45 | Adys | wow |
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| 16:24.21 | Vladinator | maybe my irc bugged? didn't show his other messages in any case. |
| 16:24.41 | Kraps | haha what |
| 16:24.58 | Vladinator | don't know... |
| 16:25.20 | Adys | i just realized worms revolution is a matrix reference >_> |
| 16:26.06 | Vladinator | btw, I hate the default behavior to spawn a companion when you change your pet teams |
| 16:26.13 | Vladinator | because it breaks stealth lol... it uses GCD |
| 16:26.31 | Vladinator | I tried finding the code that triggers it but couldn't... really, it doesn't use CallCompanion >:/ |
| 16:29.13 | Shirik | badys |
| 16:29.33 | karl_w_w | it's when you change the pet in the first slot |
| 16:29.36 | Vladinator | ah they use C_PetJournal.SummonPetByID |
| 16:29.39 | Vladinator | yeah I know |
| 16:29.46 | Vladinator | gonna make it not summon pets like that lol |
| 16:29.48 | Vladinator | annoying :P |
| 16:29.49 | Adys | badshirik |
| 16:29.50 | Adys | I guess |
| 16:29.53 | Adys | Shirik: you want one? |
| 16:30.39 | Shirik | one what |
| 16:30.56 | Shirik | oh no ty, I already have negative time available for games |
| 16:30.58 | Adys | Worms Revolution copy, I bought a 4-pack, its only £7.50 a copy |
| 16:31.00 | Vladinator | lol it's not SummonPetByID either |
| 16:32.06 | karl_w_w | Fisker wants one |
| 16:32.14 | Adys | he has one |
| 16:34.24 | Vladinator | the pet loadout spawns your pet without using the lua API |
| 16:34.33 | Vladinator | meaning we can't do jack about overriding or detecting the event :P |
| 16:34.40 | End_ | just changing the pet slot is what causes it |
| 16:34.42 | Vladinator | except elaborate coding that is |
| 16:34.51 | End_ | it's dumb and I complained about it a month ago |
| 16:35.05 | Vladinator | I just assumed they used lua to detect this and call the right API, hoping to override this :P |
| 16:35.29 | End_ | I wish |
| 16:35.32 | Vladinator | just annoying to use GCD or break my stealthing because of pet actions :/ |
| 16:35.42 | End_ | I agree |
| 16:36.08 | Vladinator | not to mention I need to dismiss it otherwise others see me lurking lol |
| 16:36.16 | End_ | there's also the thing where it'll resummon your last pet when you dismount |
| 16:36.48 | Vladinator | I think its okay but not always working :p |
| 16:37.04 | End_ | it's a problem |
| 16:37.15 | End_ | if you dismount and then try to say...stealth, you'll get an error |
| 16:37.18 | Vladinator | should resummon it if I manually summoned my pet, when I dismiss it shouldn't keep doing that ofc |
| 16:37.22 | Vladinator | ah yes |
| 16:37.26 | Vladinator | but does that use GCD too? |
| 16:37.29 | End_ | yes |
| 16:37.31 | End_ | but |
| 16:37.32 | Vladinator | I thought the automatic thing didn't hmm |
| 16:37.42 | End_ | it doesn't tell the ui that the gcd has been started |
| 16:39.01 | End_ | luckily, if you cause the gcd as you are dismounting, you're ok....it'll still summon the pet, but you'll get your stealth off |
| 16:39.12 | Vladinator | yes |
| 16:39.37 | Vladinator | btw |
| 16:39.41 | Vladinator | can't release pets in combat too |
| 16:39.48 | Vladinator | thing is if you end up in a fight and you see a pet you want |
| 16:40.03 | Vladinator | you can't (1) open the journal to get rid of that 3rd pet (poor quality let's say) to make room |
| 16:40.16 | End_ | hm, didn't know that |
| 16:40.23 | Vladinator | and (2) if you trap a pet you can't un-trap or re-pick a new pet to trap, not to mention you can't trap more than 1 in a fight witch is kind of lame... :/ |
| 16:40.25 | End_ | I never have more than 1 or 2 of a pet species though |
| 16:40.35 | Vladinator | got like 307 pets |
| 16:40.40 | Vladinator | many are 2 or 3 |
| 16:40.54 | Vladinator | so I wanna be able to release the poor quality pets if I happen to meet a pet I wanna catch :P |
| 16:41.03 | Vladinator | it's kind of hard to go trough my list to maintain a max 2 pets limit ;D |
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| 16:41.07 | Vladinator | it's big :P |
| 16:41.14 | End_ | I don't even catch them unless they're uncommon or rare |
| 16:41.19 | Vladinator | they should also add filters for quality filtering |
| 16:41.25 | Vladinator | I do it to get the entry in my pokedex :P |
| 16:41.36 | Vladinator | then I farm if I want better quality, otherwise I move on |
| 16:42.10 | Vladinator | they need to fix quite somethings to make pet battles good |
| 16:42.11 | End_ | leveling is taking long enough where I can usually get the qualities I prefer |
| 16:42.15 | Shirik | http://www.foxnews.com/science/2012/10/07/leap-faith-5-ways-skydiving-120000-feet-can-kill/ |
| 16:42.16 | Vladinator | lots of small things that are annoying :P |
| 16:42.22 | Shirik | why would you do something like this |
| 16:43.09 | End_ | it's true, hitting the ground can kill you |
| 16:43.17 | Vladinator | why would anyone strap their ballsack to a car battery and let someone else push the button until they faint? people are different/strange :P |
| 16:43.21 | Dagmar | Soo... Stop level-grinding your pets and just capture higher-level ones. |
| 16:43.35 | Dagmar | It's just as simple as it sounds. |
| 16:43.40 | Vladinator | Dagmar: what happened to having favorites? :P |
| 16:43.40 | End_ | indeed |
| 16:43.51 | Vladinator | using higher levels just for the sake of being more powerful is kind of a downer |
| 16:43.56 | Dagmar | Favoritism doesn't win. |
| 16:44.06 | Vladinator | then the system is broken :P |
| 16:44.19 | End_ | I think that's...debatable |
| 16:44.21 | Dagmar | It's not using higher levels for the sake of being powerful. It's _getting_ higher levels for the sake of enslaving all the wildlife. |
| 16:44.26 | End_ | I think the system prefers having different types |
| 16:44.32 | End_ | not having a favorite |
| 16:44.42 | End_ | which sounds reasonable to me? |
| 16:44.45 | Dagmar | If you try to just win everything with your favorites, you're going to have a bad time. |
| 16:44.55 | Dagmar | Elemntal advantages == win |
| 16:45.03 | Dagmar | ...which means needing a lot of different ones |
| 16:45.29 | Vladinator | a side of types, I can meed wild life that are not type wise better than my pet but have like 25% more of all stats when it's only two level difference , kind of weird |
| 16:46.05 | Vladinator | battling trainers is supposed to be hard, not wild life, fyi :P |
| 16:46.06 | End_ | I do have a favorite though, but it just means that pet doesn't leave my team, and the moment it can clean up things if it gets messy for the other two pets that are in my line up |
| 16:46.08 | Dagmar | A general rule of thumb is that uncommon pets are basically up a level, rare pets up two |
| 16:46.21 | Dagmar | ...but elemental attack bonuses are quite a bit more damage |
| 16:46.42 | Dagmar | You can beat three 18's with three 16's easily, if you have the type advantage on all of them |
| 16:47.02 | Dagmar | OKay so not quite easily, but very doable if you're good. |
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| 16:48.24 | Vladinator | I was just mentioning that I should be able to grind my self up to level more effectively, rather than going the other route when I capture higher level pets and use those instead of caring to level my own, because it's quicker :P |
| 16:48.47 | Dagmar | Grinding does not take skill. |
| 16:48.53 | Vladinator | takes time |
| 16:49.14 | Dagmar | Capturing pets higher than what you currently have requires skill and awareness of elemental types... which is why it goes faster. |
| 16:49.54 | Dagmar | I beat all the trainers on the first two continents with at least a 3-5 level disadvantage, with the exception of one that was just beast-beast-critter, which is easy |
| 16:50.26 | Dagmar | That's 3-5 total levels, not everthing being down by five levels. You just die that way. Heh |
| 16:51.09 | End_ | I almost beat the goblin with 3 onyxian dragon whelps with all pets 4 levels below :< |
| 16:51.30 | Dagmar | If you'd taken another shot or two at it you might have been able to pull that off |
| 16:51.30 | End_ | I messed up my comp and my third pet was supposed to be one level higher and instead it was a pet with no strengths or advantages |
| 16:52.06 | End_ | it's sort of funny/scary to see a weak attack take your pet down by half its health |
| 16:52.24 | Dagmar | If you can't find a an elementally-advantaged attack to use, the next best thing are pets where the enemy has a type disadvantage, because incoming damage is nerfed |
| 16:53.00 | Dagmar | If youv'e got a type advantage you can generally take out another pet in just 2-3 rounds |
| 16:53.35 | End_ | I think attacks themselves being typed makes it a lot interesting |
| 16:53.45 | Dagmar | ...and if you can get the initiative via speed, 2 and you get to avoid a defense round entirely |
| 16:53.46 | End_ | s/a lot/a lot more/ |
| 16:54.00 | Vladinator | I still think if swapping out for higher level pets is the right course, that it alienates people like me, who have their favorite team setup that they wish works all the way up, and when bumps on the road happen (like type disadvantages) that then grinding some wild life would help you overcome the trainer advantage, but atm grinding wild pets is a slow leveling process imo. :P |
| 16:54.20 | Dagmar | It helps if you never let your pets die. |
| 16:54.24 | Dagmar | Dead pets dont' get XP. |
| 16:54.31 | Vladinator | yeah |
| 16:54.35 | Vladinator | I know :p |
| 16:54.43 | Dagmar | Again, this is basically pokemon. It doesn't reward drugery. |
| 16:55.02 | Dagmar | It rewards being an asian kid who can keep all the type differences straight in their head. ;) |
| 16:55.16 | Dagmar | ...or people like me who printed out the chart. :) |
| 16:55.55 | Dagmar | It's not terribly hard to keep your favorites mostly up to speed. |
| 16:56.10 | Dagmar | If you win against a level-advantaged pet, there's a pretty substantial XP bonus |
| 16:56.11 | Vladinator | only reason I made it is because I grinded a bugged trainer |
| 16:56.17 | Vladinator | he always wanted to keep battling me so I did :P |
| 16:56.22 | Vladinator | gave me more xp than wild pets ;P |
| 16:56.35 | Dagmar | Heh handy |
| 16:56.44 | Vladinator | grinded that goblin guy too outside onyxia |
| 16:56.46 | AcidWeb | http://www.reddit.com/r/Minecraft/comments/1137ca/world_of_warcraft_for_minecraft_finally_released/ |
| 16:56.47 | AcidWeb | heh |
| 16:56.49 | Vladinator | humanoid pet, oh yeah win |
| 16:57.15 | Dagmar | ...but the XP bonus is very useful. It handily halves the number of battles you need to win to level. |
| 16:58.12 | Amarande | hm. is this an effect of crz, or not ... |
| 16:58.32 | Amarande | seems like ever since CRZ was introduced, we've been getting rolling realm restarts vastly more often than we used to |
| 16:58.52 | Amarande | sometimes seeming to be nearly on a daily basis now |
| 17:00.35 | Fisker | when is worms revolution btw Adys ? |
| 17:00.43 | Adys | 10th of oct |
| 17:03.45 | Vladinator | http://www.wowhead.com/quest=30152#comments:id=1731984 :D |
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| 17:14.29 | karl_w_w | <End_> I don't even catch them unless they're uncommon or rare <- how do you know their quality before u catch them? |
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| 17:15.57 | End_ | karl_w_w: an addon can tell you |
| 17:16.08 | karl_w_w | ah |
| 17:16.38 | Adys | [17:56:14] <Amarande> seems like ever since CRZ was introduced, we've been getting rolling realm restarts vastly more often than we used to |
| 17:16.40 | End_ | for some reason they (Blizzard) added the ability to get the quality in battle, but don't seem to use it |
| 17:16.43 | Adys | correlation |
| 17:16.58 | Adys | since mop release, more rolling restarts |
| 17:17.02 | durcyn | Adys: = causation! |
| 17:17.05 | Adys | its an expansion |
| 17:17.07 | Adys | more hotfixes |
| 17:17.09 | Adys | more restarts |
| 17:17.22 | karl_w_w | seems like ever since CRZ was introduced, blizzard have been releasing an expansion |
| 17:17.28 | End_ | hah |
| 17:17.53 | Fisker | they could potentially take the zone servers down and perform maintenance on them |
| 17:18.00 | Fisker | and then ship the players over on another server |
| 17:18.17 | Adys | by potentially you mean theoretically |
| 17:18.33 | Adys | potentially implies you know the architecture is capable of that |
| 17:18.41 | karl_w_w | seems like ever since they introduced motes of harmony, we've been getting rolling realm restarts vastly more often than we used to |
| 17:18.51 | Adys | theoretically implies you know it could be designed that way |
| 17:19.10 | Fisker | i disagree |
| 17:19.14 | karl_w_w | Adys: I would say the other way around actually |
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| 17:19.38 | karl_w_w | potentially = it might be possible |
| 17:19.56 | karl_w_w | theoretically = it is possible |
| 17:19.57 | neutronimity | I seem to be able to whisper cross realm players after having been in a group with them, and not being in the same zone, I think. I was in SW at that time, and don't think SW zones were linked. |
| 17:20.09 | karl_w_w | yeah |
| 17:20.15 | karl_w_w | you can group with them too |
| 17:22.17 | Fisker | how to troll |
| 17:22.23 | Fisker | Write "LFG Galleon" in general |
| 17:22.48 | karl_w_w | LFM Galleon |
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| 17:23.36 | karl_w_w | Fisker why is arthas's horse called invincible if I can see it? |
| 17:26.37 | zenzelezz | I'm going to assume that's a joke |
| 17:26.49 | Amarande | heh |
| 17:26.50 | Amarande | along similar lines |
| 17:27.02 | Amarande | there must be a bug in the game, since countless characters have died while carrying several stacks of Eternal Life in their inventory |
| 17:27.09 | foxlit | I wonder how many people you could annoy by pressing Find Group and then cacelling if they aren't at the right boss |
| 17:31.23 | Industrial | https://github.com/google hah I didnt know the big G had an account |
| 17:32.21 | Adys | facebook does too |
| 17:32.50 | Industrial | https://github.com/google/module-server is shiny! |
| 17:34.47 | Industrial | but I guess you can do incremental loading with a websocket too |
| 17:34.55 | Industrial | and eval ... |
| 17:34.56 | Industrial | runs |
| 17:38.02 | Stanzilla | http://opensourcehacker.com/2012/10/07/go-pro-and-your-eyes-will-thank-you/ |
| 17:38.03 | Stanzilla | ^amazing |
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| 17:45.23 | Industrial | https://github.com/adobe/Source-Code-Pro/downloads |
| 17:45.24 | Industrial | tharyego |
| 17:46.33 | Industrial | hugs the big corporations that start to see the benefits of open source (better world etc) |
| 17:48.12 | Fisker | should you use otf or ttf? |
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| 17:49.38 | Fisker | pls |
| 17:50.48 | Industrial | herp derp |
| 17:51.16 | Ressy | Did they say that the login servers were going down as well? |
| 17:51.41 | Fisker | you are a jersk |
| 17:51.59 | Industrial | TTF |
| 17:52.18 | End_ | usually the login servers have troubles because everyone gets booted and all try to login at the same time |
| 17:52.26 | Fisker | was just wondering if OTF was some neat new shit |
| 17:53.21 | Fisker | the otf ones seem better |
| 17:53.47 | Amarande | if I remember right, OTF is a container format |
| 17:53.47 | Industrial | well, i think they are moar vector/scalable then ttf |
| 17:53.55 | Amarande | the font data itself can be either TTF or PostScript |
| 17:54.02 | Industrial | >_< |
| 17:54.24 | Fisker | yeah Industrial |
| 17:54.33 | Fisker | OTF ones seems to be without jaggies |
| 17:54.34 | Industrial | ok fisker |
| 17:54.37 | Fisker | or less atleast |
| 17:57.57 | Ressy | wow.. This is nuts: http://wow.joystiq.com/2012/10/07/reports-entire-cities-dead-on-certain-realms/ |
| 17:58.17 | End_ | I think that's what that rolling restart was for |
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| 18:07.12 | Kraps | damn |
| 18:08.20 | Fisker | pretty damn old End_ |
| 18:10.47 | End_ | you're pretty old Fisker |
| 18:10.51 | Dagmar | Wow that's a pretty serious hack |
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| 18:15.00 | Dagmar | Fifteen minutes beyond the window, and no update. Odd. |
| 18:15.56 | Neffi | Login servers probably melted |
| 18:16.04 | Neffi | It's a common occurance at Blizzard's datacenters |
| 18:16.11 | Ressy | Theres a majro problem. |
| 18:16.21 | Neffi | Major problem? |
| 18:16.25 | Dagmar | Let's hope some GM wasn't using a really stupid password |
| 18:16.27 | Ressy | They found another problem while fixing the kill exploit |
| 18:16.34 | Ressy | they had to bring down servers to fix it. |
| 18:16.35 | Dagmar | ...but I thought all that was IP-bound anyway |
| 18:17.10 | Neffi | source? |
| 18:17.16 | Thunder_Child | iirc you can not access it externally anyway |
| 18:17.21 | Kraps | majoro problemo |
| 18:17.55 | Dagmar | I haven't seen enough of the new content to know whether or not this is someone just relocating a very nasty contagion debuff or what but the video looks dire |
| 18:18.31 | karl_w_w | why cant i connect to wow since the restart? |
| 18:18.35 | Dagmar | Folks just fallin over dead in Stormwind like there's a rogue with both Martin Fury and martin's Hat |
| 18:18.40 | Ressy | They brought servers down. |
| 18:18.46 | Dagmar | Possibly a four-piece Martin set bonus |
| 18:18.54 | Ressy | It was going to be a restart, and they found something major. |
| 18:19.03 | karl_w_w | sweet |
| 18:19.16 | Dagmar | Ressy: You say that like the random murders thing wasn't major |
| 18:19.29 | Ressy | Compartively, its not. |
| 18:19.33 | Neffi | Maybe they're being attacked? |
| 18:19.42 | Kraps | garrosh has now resorted to nerve gas, what a monster |
| 18:19.48 | Neffi | If the whole kill thing really is a hack, that's not good |
| 18:19.53 | Ressy | Dagmar: That issue was being fixed when the restarts went. |
| 18:19.54 | Dagmar | Well, we knew Hellscream was a dick |
| 18:20.03 | Ressy | but its something else. |
| 18:20.06 | Dagmar | Let's hope for the next expansion we get to clean house. |
| 18:20.19 | Dagmar | You guys can have Varian, and we'll take care of your little Garrosh problem. |
| 18:20.28 | Dagmar | Everyone wins. Everywhere. |
| 18:21.06 | Neffi | We take care of the Garrosh problem all the time. But he's like Kenny, he just keeps showing back up and going on about his life like nothing happened. |
| 18:21.20 | Kraps | Garrosh is being handled this expansion dude |
| 18:21.24 | Kraps | spailers |
| 18:21.31 | A-KO | lol |
| 18:21.31 | Kraps | s/a/o/ |
| 18:21.34 | Neffi | Yeah Blue spoiled that a while ago |
| 18:21.39 | Dagmar | You can still have Varian for free. |
| 18:21.56 | Dagmar | We'll take our chances with the blonde-headed kid running things. |
| 18:22.21 | Kraps | pansy-ass you mean |
| 18:22.31 | Kraps | (no i like him) |
| 18:23.03 | Dagmar | 'ja even notice that the idle music at the login occasionally plays a couple people dying? |
| 18:23.28 | Dagmar | Kraps: he doesn't need to be able to fight, just issue effective and most-importantly, non-asshole orders. |
| 18:24.37 | Kraps | he mind-controlled the dwarf guy, that was lol-worthy |
| 18:25.21 | Dagmar | Yeah, heh, although I sort of suspect with Sully's rather loose grip on reality, he might not have actually needed to cast the spell. |
| 18:25.24 | Dagmar | "We are aware of the issues with the login servers that some players are experiencing. We're currently investigating a resolution and will keep you informed." |
| 18:25.50 | Kraps | how does pandaria start horde-side |
| 18:25.55 | kd3 | meh, I guess this is as good of an opportunity as any to fire up the ptr client and let it start patching |
| 18:26.02 | kd3 | kraps; wowpedia.org/jfquest |
| 18:26.14 | Kraps | since really everyone hates them right now |
| 18:26.23 | zenzelezz | grmbl... I hate the odd case where an item is placed in such a location on a slope that it's impossible to loot it |
| 18:28.50 | Kraps | and wowpedia is down |
| 18:30.42 | Dagmar | Drat. I was just about to go look there to see about Strong Traps |
| 18:30.51 | kd3 | hm? site's up for me |
| 18:30.58 | kd3 | grrs |
| 18:33.33 | Neffi | sighs. |
| 18:34.26 | Ressy | ~wowalert |
| 18:34.26 | purl | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US); http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) [NB: Returns empty content unless there is an active alert] |
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| 18:36.43 | Fisker | sorry End_ |
| 18:37.47 | Fisker | btw Dagmar GM stuff is in a special GM client |
| 18:37.57 | Fisker | normal wow client only has whois and teleporting |
| 18:38.10 | Fisker | though of course someone might've been able to find out how to fake those commands |
| 18:38.20 | Fisker | but would probably be further bound by authentication and network security |
| 18:38.40 | kd3 | hopefully |
| 18:39.16 | Fisker | yeah it's not like it's the first time Blizzard have dropped the ball on basic security :P |
| 18:39.38 | Fisker | i'm still thinking/hoping it is "only" some client/server security exploit |
| 18:39.41 | Fisker | i.e. faking of spells |
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| 18:41.55 | zenzelezz | didn't you know? It's the new top-level warlock spell |
| 18:42.41 | Fisker | warlocks are just usually invincible |
| 18:42.42 | Fisker | btw kd3 |
| 18:42.49 | Fisker | they finally fixed that guy who was a blizzard poster :o |
| 18:43.05 | Fisker | i wonder if he really was since i think he played on one of the "blizzard realms" |
| 18:43.48 | Amarande | Fisker: if only we had access to Improved Bone Shield for ourselves :D |
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| 18:51.32 | Fisker | btw |
| 18:51.33 | Fisker | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fb-1FpPpBRI |
| 18:53.00 | Fisker | funny how he masks his name |
| 18:53.15 | Fisker | like he thinks blizzard wouldn't be able to find it :D |
| 18:55.34 | bluspacecow | has this been linked yet ? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YoM_sOC7jMA |
| 18:56.10 | bluspacecow | also edit on first post at http://www.ownedcore.com/forums/world-of-warcraft/world-of-warcraft-general/380545-hackers-orgrimmar-twisting-nether-eu.html |
| 18:56.55 | Vladinator | it's a weird exploit because it appears to be client side triggered lol |
| 18:57.12 | nevcairiel | probably something to activate some GM function |
| 18:57.23 | Vladinator | but it's all server sided |
| 18:57.35 | Vladinator | makes no sense that a client can do things like this :3 |
| 18:57.39 | bluspacecow | heh |
| 18:57.49 | bluspacecow | wizard of oz thing IMHO |
| 18:59.41 | bluspacecow | IE we don't actually know the deep technical details of how it works so can't really comment on if it's a client or server thing. |
| 18:59.55 | bluspacecow | wizard behind the curtain thing :) |
| 19:00.20 | Vladinator | the client can't just kill a target without server accepting, so it's funny that the server is all fine with such weird killings :P |
| 19:00.59 | Dagmar | Looks like client-side, from people using WoW plus |
| 19:01.07 | Dagmar | Way to go... Make it worth Blizz's time to sue you |
| 19:02.22 | bluspacecow | *salutes the silly idjits* |
| 19:02.31 | bluspacecow | go quietly into the night friends (?) |
| 19:02.43 | Vladinator | blizzard has systems to detect abnormal client behavior |
| 19:02.52 | Vladinator | this is very abnormal ;) |
| 19:03.08 | bluspacecow | and ? |
| 19:03.23 | Vladinator | odd they haven't applied a server side fix already :p |
| 19:03.38 | Dagmar | Apparently one of them got busted speed-farming Barradin Hold and they decideed to scorched-earth the exploit |
| 19:03.53 | bluspacecow | http://www.wowhead.com/npc=24324/crashes-everything-holy-crap-stay-away-probably-possessed-by-demons-or-something#comments |
| 19:03.56 | bluspacecow | LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL |
| 19:04.02 | Vladinator | old bluspacecow :p |
| 19:04.19 | bluspacecow | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:05.20 | Kraps | stop /doing/ that |
| 19:05.51 | Vladinator | I like being fondlet |
| 19:05.53 | Vladinator | fondled* |
| 19:08.12 | Fisker | the developer says it's exploiting a server mechanic |
| 19:08.18 | Fisker | and not GM control itself apparently |
| 19:08.28 | Shirik | server mechanic of "kill person" |
| 19:12.03 | Vladinator | :D |
| 19:14.15 | Vladinator | I hope documentation is released on this, interested how it happened. |
| 19:14.24 | Vladinator | how blizzard left this exposed :3 |
| 19:14.40 | bluspacecow | wizard of OZ again |
| 19:15.04 | Vladinator | you have to stop with that wizard of oz :P |
| 19:15.28 | bluspacecow | given we don't know the _exact_ technical details of how it works how can we say how it's been left exposed ? |
| 19:15.50 | Vladinator | thus I hope they release info on how this worked :P |
| 19:15.55 | Vladinator | they = those that found the exploit |
| 19:16.10 | Fisker | btw bluspacecow |
| 19:16.16 | bluspacecow | IMHO this sort of thing would only be shared amoungst the hacker elite |
| 19:16.18 | Fisker | blizzard poster guy is not blizzard poster anymore |
| 19:16.28 | Fisker | why bluspacecow ? |
| 19:16.33 | bluspacecow | owned core have a silver elitist of the elite section |
| 19:16.44 | bluspacecow | why anything fisker ? |
| 19:16.48 | bluspacecow | FOR THE LOLZ |
| 19:16.54 | Shirik | is the hacker elite, there are none greater |
| 19:16.54 | Fisker | why would it only be shared amongst the hacker elite? |
| 19:17.13 | bluspacecow | idunnolol |
| 19:17.26 | Vladinator | once its fixed I se no reason not to share it with the rest so :P |
| 19:17.26 | Ressy | The more that use it, the more likely it is it'll get noticed and fixed |
| 19:18.00 | Fisker | it was already noticed and fixed Ressy |
| 19:18.02 | Fisker | that's why they did it |
| 19:18.06 | Fisker | well not fixed |
| 19:18.09 | Fisker | but fixed now |
| 19:18.13 | Fisker | noticed earlier |
| 19:18.27 | Ressy | nods |
| 19:18.31 | Fisker | kinda weird they didn't push out a fix at the same time though |
| 19:18.41 | Fisker | idk maybe they figured they could wait until night? |
| 19:18.51 | Ressy | Takes time to fix a problem |
| 19:19.29 | Mr_Rabies | plus beauracracy |
| 19:19.30 | Dagmar | I think they were expecting the "hackers" to not be total tools and try embargoing entire capital cities |
| 19:19.44 | Fisker | yeah Ressy |
| 19:19.49 | Ressy | Yeah. As soon as they did that, the game was up |
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| 19:20.06 | Fisker | but they could've waited with banning them until they were ready to push a fix |
| 19:20.12 | Dagmar | ...and it was a dick thing to do |
| 19:20.20 | Ressy | bans went out already? |
| 19:20.22 | Fisker | i thought it was hilarious |
| 19:20.23 | Fisker | yes |
| 19:20.27 | Fisker | that's why they did it |
| 19:20.27 | Ressy | oh dang |
| 19:20.29 | Mr_Rabies | after researching it and finding the cause, and figuring out a fix, you gotta get changes like that approved, have documentation, test it, etc |
| 19:20.32 | Fisker | some got banned earlier |
| 19:20.34 | bluspacecow | oh snap! |
| 19:20.37 | Fisker | so they decided to be dicks about it |
| 19:20.49 | Fisker | only one of them apparently |
| 19:20.52 | Ressy | and started griefing main cities... |
| 19:20.52 | ScratchMonkey | banned for what? |
| 19:21.06 | Fisker | using some sort of hack that gives them gm-like powers |
| 19:21.14 | Fisker | i.e. insta kill anything in range and such |
| 19:21.15 | Dagmar | By this point, BLizz can probably assign a dollar value in CS money for hours of unplanned downtime |
| 19:21.32 | Fisker | yeah |
| 19:21.42 | Fisker | and it's not like they've been entirely unsuccessful with litigation in the past |
| 19:21.45 | Fisker | dumb move |
| 19:21.49 | Dagmar | ...and it's not a good idea to do things that make a company consider you "Expensive" |
| 19:22.08 | Dagmar | They can get popped for contributory infringement just like GLider |
| 19:23.09 | bluspacecow | Fisker |
| 19:23.09 | Fisker | anyway basically i was looking through the thread on the exploit sites |
| 19:23.12 | bluspacecow | https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-C4c3n03Eij4/UHEise-qumI/AAAAAAAArYw/fzPezVoMCck/s645/fXGA0.png |
| 19:23.17 | Fisker | the author basically said they had the hack for a while now |
| 19:23.23 | Fisker | then this morning one of the hackers got banned |
| 19:23.31 | Fisker | which prompted the douchebaggery |
| 19:23.44 | Fisker | pls bluspacecow |
| 19:23.46 | Fisker | i would do it |
| 19:23.59 | Amarande | hmmm, who was it, Einstein who said that only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and he wasn't sure about the universe? |
| 19:24.57 | Vladinator | I can't see how stupidity and this exploit have anything in common. :P |
| 19:25.11 | A-KO | It's human stupidity to apply patches on a Sunday |
| 19:25.14 | A-KO | lol |
| 19:25.15 | A-KO | idiots |
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| 19:25.51 | Dagmar | Vladinator: Because stupidity is what makes you do things that let accountants loose the paralegals |
| 19:25.56 | Fisker | Vladinator Blizzard may get lawyer happy |
| 19:26.27 | Dagmar | It's expensive and annoying for them to sue ever bot maker. Easier and cheaper to just ban the users of the botting software, BUT... |
| 19:26.43 | Dagmar | ...if your'e going to be an idiot and do disruptive things that cause game-wide downtime... |
| 19:26.44 | Vladinator | look on the bright side, hopefully they will fix the exploit and some others they didn't care to fix back then :3 |
| 19:26.45 | Amarande | Vlad: the fact that people chose to stoop to the level of doing things like using this exploit is stupid? |
| 19:26.59 | Mr_Rabies | oh no http://i.imgur.com/8GRWm.jpg |
| 19:27.07 | Dagmar | It can make Blizz decide it's cheaper to go ahead and crush you with lawyers. |
| 19:27.57 | Dagmar | Mr_Rabies: Must be terrible having all your chores done |
| 19:28.31 | Mr_Rabies | apparently that's what happens when you cast levitate on veggies or something? :O |
| 19:28.39 | Dagmar | lol |
| 19:30.21 | Mr_Rabies | also this is the character in that BH25 instakill video http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/tichondrius/Ballfondler/advanced |
| 19:30.28 | Vladinator | you can heal the vegetables too |
| 19:30.29 | Vladinator | :P |
| 19:30.41 | Mr_Rabies | their name shows up on the tooltip for the boss loot, lolol |
| 19:30.55 | Mr_Rabies | only one priest with that unfortunate name |
| 19:31.20 | Amarande | It's Tichondrius, all the other pronounceable names were probably taken heh |
| 19:34.09 | Vladinator | doesn't mater because they can look up all server logs for a certain boss kill, considering it's not so hectic they can find the boss kill that took surprisingly little time to kill :p |
| 19:34.29 | Vladinator | baradin hold is like dead raid atm ^^ |
| 19:34.35 | Dagmar | Someone probably gets a daily report about that |
| 19:35.37 | Ressy | login servers working again |
| 19:35.43 | foxlit | so, the Skyfall song... kind of meh? |
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| 19:37.29 | foxlit | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HKoqNJtMTQ |
| 19:37.58 | Dagmar | I wouldn't call that "working" |
| 19:43.03 | Shirik | wow california |
| 19:43.07 | Shirik | gas prices at $4.63 |
| 19:43.25 | Arrowmaster | somewhere is almost $6 |
| 19:44.27 | Thunder_Child | and some are as low is 4 |
| 19:45.06 | A-KO | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhH7V7OFPZs |
| 19:46.05 | Arrowmaster | was $3.70 here i think yesterday |
| 19:48.54 | Coote | $4.13 here right now in central ny. |
| 19:49.12 | Vladinator | why so high? |
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| 19:50.05 | Coote | Just about everything is more expensive in NY. It's a conspiracy to bleed people dry so that they can't afford to pack it up and move out of state. |
| 19:50.18 | Shirik | I am really tempted to modify that video to put wow on it, A-KO |
| 19:50.26 | Shirik | REALLY tempted |
| 19:52.50 | Thunder_Child | Vladinator: CA shot up because of a fire at a mssive refinery |
| 19:52.59 | Vladinator | hmm |
| 19:54.18 | Coote | I figured it was because everybody drives prisues and likes to bitch and moan about people with anything else. Like her - http://youtu.be/0oSzLS0j9fY |
| 19:54.25 | Coote | *priuses |
| 19:57.20 | Shirik | The correct reason to drive a prius is so you don't have to deal with people like her |
| 19:58.47 | Coote | I'm not sure about that. A slow agonizing death is more enjoyable than driving a prius, so I'm sure people could put up with people like her rather than drive one. |
| 19:59.34 | Thunder_Child | I could put up with her if i had a tazer and a gag. |
| 19:59.53 | Coote | The only prius owners I ever seen are pretty much hippies who try to act green and eco friendly while refusing to understand that the carbon footprint in making a prius is worse than a big rig produces over several years. |
| 20:00.19 | Shirik | While in college I was part of a team for a competition called "EcoCAR" |
| 20:00.34 | Shirik | We were amazed at how little reduction in emissions switching to electric caused |
| 20:00.42 | Shirik | because the majority of the power plants out there are coal |
| 20:00.52 | Shirik | we had to compute well-to-wheel emissions |
| 20:01.37 | Coote | Yeah. If you also try to consider carbon footprints with electric cars all around and not just the way of getting electricity, the bateries are a huge issue to deal with. |
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| 20:03.04 | Vladinator | buy me a freaking prius and I will gladly drive it, if it costs more than what I can afford then screw you :P |
| 20:03.36 | Coote | Get a motorcycle, enjoy much more gas mileage. |
| 20:03.48 | Vladinator | I don't got a vehicle :P |
| 20:04.14 | Coote | Me neither. No longer even have a license, turned it in for a non drivers several years ago. |
| 20:04.54 | Neffi | One day we will learn to borrow energy from the universe, and people will laugh at the idea of burning fossile fuels and worrying about efficiency |
| 20:05.00 | Shirik | I prefer to stay alive |
| 20:05.11 | Thunder_Child | mmm...zero point energy |
| 20:05.19 | Shirik | zero point modules? |
| 20:05.34 | Vladinator | if we stop so much centralization and can offer people work where they live, we can all walk! :D |
| 20:05.51 | Vladinator | shame no one wants that, too much profit to have all of us live shoulder by shoulder :3 |
| 20:06.14 | Coote | I think I'll just stick to using Dilithium. |
| 20:06.25 | Shirik | simcity kinda forces you to localize people |
| 20:06.30 | Vladinator | :3 |
| 20:06.30 | Shirik | too bad the real world doesn't work that way |
| 20:06.44 | Shirik | that being said, I live in walking distance from work |
| 20:06.51 | Shirik | that being said, I still drive to work |
| 20:07.03 | Shirik | mostly because I'm always running late and I can't seem to get my bike fixed |
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| 20:07.36 | Neffi | Flouride thorium reactor sounds better IMO |
| 20:07.41 | Vladinator | we make the real world so shouldn't be hard to change it as long most of us want to :P |
| 20:07.52 | Vladinator | just as a reply to the "real world" comment :p |
| 20:08.33 | Vladinator | I know it's not easy but, hey, sometimes you just gotta start from scratch to make things better -just like coding! :D |
| 20:09.21 | Arrowmaster | Neffi: i think the current focus is on a molten salt thorium reactor instead of the old liquid thorium reactor design, although almost nobody in the US is focused on making a thorium reactor while other countries are |
| 20:09.33 | Coote | Vladinator: Pfft, just throw a bandaid on it, and be done with it. |
| 20:09.37 | Vladinator | :P |
| 20:09.51 | Vladinator | nevcairiel would have killed you if you said that about bad coding habits xD |
| 20:10.02 | Vladinator | among some others I think, hehe. |
| 20:10.05 | Shirik | fu Wikipedia |
| 20:10.08 | Shirik | teaching me things randomly |
| 20:10.17 | Shirik | TIL Helium never freezes at standard pressure |
| 20:10.36 | Shirik | reason I learned this: Stargate Atlantis |
| 20:10.47 | Coote | I know. I feel the same way, but laziness and procrastination coupled with easily being distracted by anything makes it impossible to rewrite from scratch. :( |
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| 20:11.18 | Neffi | Arrowmaster: Liquid-flouride thorium reactors are types of molten-salt-reactors. |
| 20:11.24 | Neffi | The flouride is the molten salt |
| 20:11.39 | Vladinator | that's our fault, not breaking our code up into modules, easy to understand and a flexible framework to allow for expansion :( |
| 20:11.41 | Gnarfoz | <Coote> Me neither. No longer even have a license, turned it in for a non drivers several years ago. <-- what's a non-driver's driver's license? o_O |
| 20:12.05 | Arrowmaster | i thought the old design was a flouride reactor too |
| 20:12.07 | Neffi | I was reading up on a very clever design. Very safe. Self-sustaining. Passive safety mechanisms by design with no positive pressure, so no chance of explosion/meltdown. |
| 20:12.08 | Coote | Gnarfoz: Pretty much a basic form of ID. |
| 20:12.22 | Neffi | I was referring to the MSR type of flouride reactor |
| 20:12.22 | Gnarfoz | *boggle* |
| 20:12.32 | Neffi | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liquid_fluoride_thorium_reactor |
| 20:12.41 | Neffi | There are like 4 variations on what's mentioned in that article though |
| 20:12.51 | Gnarfoz | why not just call it an id card :D:D |
| 20:13.07 | Gnarfoz | "driver's license as ID" always struck me as weird setup |
| 20:13.25 | Coote | Ask the DMV. So much BS all around there that they don't even know wtf they're even doing. |
| 20:13.46 | Gnarfoz | that'd incur long-distance charges, I'm about 8000 km away. :D |
| 20:14.00 | Gnarfoz | next weirdness: "DMV" being in charge of that |
| 20:14.01 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 20:14.12 | Vladinator | you know the xbox headset? |
| 20:14.15 | Neffi | We call them state-issued IDs in NY. I think referring to ID as driver's license is just common convention, since more often than not you're using your ID card specifically to prove you can drive. |
| 20:14.17 | Vladinator | one headphone and a mic? |
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| 20:14.24 | Vladinator | imagine that almost 2 weeks |
| 20:14.30 | Gnarfoz | Neffi: ID card to prove you can drive?! madnessss :D |
| 20:14.32 | Vladinator | I think my other ear stopped working... |
| 20:14.49 | Gnarfoz | I guess it makes sense for anyone who's used to it |
| 20:14.55 | Neffi | Why have a separate photo-ID proving you can drive? |
| 20:14.59 | Gnarfoz | but we just have an id card and, if we own one, a driver's license |
| 20:15.08 | Gnarfoz | because... the things have nothing to do with each other |
| 20:15.14 | Gnarfoz | shrugs |
| 20:15.22 | Neffi | The drivers license is the same as the state ID, except it just has a little line denoting that you're allowed to drive |
| 20:15.30 | Coote | People use their license to prove they can drive? I always thought the primary purpose was to buy booze. |
| 20:15.31 | Neffi | If you have a CDL, then it says you can drive commercial shit. Etc. |
| 20:15.35 | Gnarfoz | that's a pretty simple driver's license system, then, too |
| 20:15.35 | Arrowmaster | here you can get a drivers license or state id, and now you can get a voter id too |
| 20:15.49 | Neffi | It's multi-purpose. In fact, the new IDs they have also have SSN and .. what's that word |
| 20:15.53 | Gnarfoz | we have like... 14 different classes of driver's licenses :D |
| 20:15.54 | Neffi | Passport |
| 20:16.00 | Fisker | expells gas @ Gnarfoz |
| 20:16.22 | Arrowmaster | in ohio they used to put SSN on ids but they stopped that a few years ago |
| 20:16.30 | Shirik | why do you need 14 different drivers licenses |
| 20:16.34 | Shirik | we have like.... 4? |
| 20:16.35 | Gnarfoz | you don't |
| 20:16.37 | Gnarfoz | that's not what I said |
| 20:16.46 | Shirik | motorcycles, standard, CDL, and hazmat |
| 20:16.48 | Neffi | In fact I don't know if the new "enhanced" IDs have SSN on them. But I know they have passport and 1 or 2 other "features" integrated. |
| 20:16.53 | Shirik | do emergency workers have a special license? |
| 20:16.57 | Shirik | or is that just a CDL |
| 20:17.04 | Gnarfoz | (wtf is cdl) |
| 20:17.10 | Arrowmaster | although i havent seen the new design for ohio |
| 20:17.10 | Neffi | commercial trucks and shit |
| 20:17.12 | Shirik | commercial driver's license |
| 20:17.31 | Neffi | Basically the kinda shit that's really heavy and more dangerous than a pickup truck |
| 20:17.42 | Gnarfoz | I was close, it seems it's 12 now: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_driving_licence |
| 20:18.24 | Arrowmaster | CDL and chauffeur licenses used to be the same but i think there is a separate chauffeur license now |
| 20:18.25 | Gnarfoz | (some of them, you can obtain at the same time because the learning materials overlap.) |
| 20:18.51 | Shirik | apparently hazmat and emergency are actually just endorsements on a CDL |
| 20:18.55 | Neffi | I do know in NY it's separate. Taxi drivers can't drive an 18-wheeler. |
| 20:19.06 | Shirik | same for passenger vehicle |
| 20:19.08 | Shirik | so they're all CDL |
| 20:19.39 | Arrowmaster | Neffi: right, but they used to be the same, i think both my parrents had one at one point for some reason |
| 20:20.53 | Neffi | how long have the servers been up? |
| 20:25.40 | bluspacecow | a little bit |
| 20:25.48 | bluspacecow | about an hour or so |
| 20:26.01 | bluspacecow | only randomly letting people in but apparently the access's getting better |
| 20:27.32 | Neffi | I'm guessing the login system is getting trashed pretty hard |
| 20:27.55 | bluspacecow | guess |
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| 20:39.33 | Fisker | hey bluspacecow |
| 20:39.36 | Fisker | did you see? |
| 20:41.38 | bluspacecow | @fisker soz was afk |
| 20:41.42 | bluspacecow | no i did not! |
| 20:41.46 | Fisker | ok |
| 20:41.50 | bluspacecow | :( |
| 20:42.10 | Fisker | :(? |
| 20:42.21 | bluspacecow | i sad i did not see |
| 20:42.30 | bluspacecow | was there lolz to be had |
| 20:42.37 | Fisker | no |
| 20:42.38 | Fisker | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/4253971858?page=14#279 |
| 20:43.13 | bluspacecow | not a bue no moah ? |
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| 20:48.10 | Fisker | noep |
| 20:48.34 | Fisker | mad? |
| 20:49.14 | bluspacecow | nope |
| 20:49.16 | bluspacecow | lolzy |
| 20:50.17 | Fisker | why lolzy? |
| 20:50.37 | bluspacecow | just cause |
| 20:51.57 | Shirik | english translator needed plz |
| 21:03.19 | Kraps | http://media.mmo-champion.com/images/news/2012/october/115pm.jpg |
| 21:03.46 | bluspacecow | wowalert? |
| 21:04.07 | bluspacecow | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert |
| 21:04.19 | Kraps | oh |
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| 21:08.25 | Shirik | le sigh http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-204_162-57527543/cdc-more-than-90-people-ill-with-meningitis/ |
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| 21:16.53 | Arrowmaster | if anybody doesnt already own it http://store.steampowered.com/sub/14734/?dailydealagain |
| 21:17.15 | Gnarfoz | why is the flash plugin for firefox so horribly broken :( keeps stalling and locking up the tab it's in all the time |
| 21:18.27 | Vladinator | flash tbh feels broken :/ |
| 21:18.35 | Vladinator | something they did over the years made it unstable |
| 21:19.26 | nevcairiel | lately, its a combination of problems in flash and firefox though, they are not really compatible anymore |
| 21:19.35 | nevcairiel | i get flash crashing my firefox all the time |
| 21:19.40 | nevcairiel | chrome with its built-in flash is fine |
| 21:20.38 | Vladinator | you know what happened to flash? Adobe did :P |
| 21:20.41 | Vladinator | I miss Macromedia |
| 21:20.52 | bluspacecow | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:20.58 | Shirik | now for your weekly Shirik rant |
| 21:21.01 | Shirik | https://www.facebook.com/matt.d.buono/posts/901364895758 |
| 21:21.02 | Vladinator | bro bro you sound bro bro |
| 21:21.26 | nevcairiel | Shirik: E_NEEDSLOGIN |
| 21:21.32 | Shirik | it does? |
| 21:21.33 | Shirik | why |
| 21:21.36 | Humbedooh | because |
| 21:21.55 | Shirik | well regardless, here's what it says |
| 21:21.55 | Vladinator | spiralofhope ignoring me makes me sad :( |
| 21:21.59 | Shirik | So I'm reading an article, and it goes something like this: "The natural tool people reach for when fixing performance problems is the profiler. This works really well if your performance is lost in a small function performing an inefficient algorithm with my iterations. The profiler will tell you about this function, you fix the algorithm, and you win. But, life is never this easy. Your code |
| 21:22.00 | Shirik | may not be very profilable. This was the case with my mysql 0.9.6 library. My parser was basically one big function with a huge switch statement." Somehow, this is the profiler's fault for not being useful. Did you ever stop for a moment to think that your <expletive deleted> code was to blame instead? And people wonder why I hate the open source community. |
| 21:22.00 | bluspacecow | http://pastebin.com/4D0VKpPu |
| 21:22.07 | bluspacecow | -____- |
| 21:22.14 | nevcairiel | because its facebook, they are like a bad religion, they try to recruit you before you get to the cookies |
| 21:22.22 | Shirik | it's a public post, not sure why you would have to log in |
| 21:22.23 | Shirik | but whatever |
| 21:22.48 | Vladinator | how can facebook track Shirik if he doesn't make an account? |
| 21:23.08 | Vladinator | they need to fill out their relationship table of his profile so they know who he is on google, his search behaviors, friends, e.g. e.g. :P |
| 21:23.29 | Vladinator | btw curse has no rss for ticket replies :P |
| 21:23.56 | bluspacecow | there's always pastebin |
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| 21:38.27 | xyphoid_ | Shirik: "life is never this easy" man, my life must be so easy, every time i resort to the profiler it *does* turn out to be one function |
| 21:39.39 | Vladinator | btw, just a thought |
| 21:39.55 | Vladinator | those hackers, if they wanted to really hurt blizzard, they should have used the kill exploit to clear out the new raids? :P |
| 21:39.57 | Vladinator | like super quick lol |
| 21:40.18 | Vladinator | would make all the top leader boards and such really fun to look at :P |
| 21:42.10 | Fisker | http://www.wowhead.com/item=85500 <-man this item is awesome |
| 21:47.39 | Vladinator | you can be travel form on top |
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| 21:47.42 | Vladinator | and someone can ride you :P |
| 21:47.50 | Vladinator | I assume if it's the same like the quest one |
| 21:52.17 | bleeter | excuse me, but fuck flash. srsly. |
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| 22:07.20 | Arrowmaster | damnit i need a linux distro that will run on this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_PC_Convertible and a dialup isp so i can win http://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/1130pd/reddit_whats_the_most_ancient_device_you_can_post/ |
| 22:08.47 | bleeter | trust me to be asleep when the rapture happens |
| 22:10.13 | Arrowmaster | actually i probably dont need a dialup account, or a linux distro |
| 22:10.49 | Arrowmaster | just a bbs i can dial into thats running a web gateway or that i can telnet out of |
| 22:12.15 | Vladinator | how about |
| 22:12.27 | Vladinator | posting from commodore |
| 22:12.35 | Vladinator | if you program a easy to post with program you can run on it :P |
| 22:12.49 | Vladinator | with some weird extensions you can plug into it to allow it internet access :P |
| 22:13.53 | Vladinator | LOL BUG |
| 22:13.53 | Vladinator | :D |
| 22:14.00 | Vladinator | if you manage pet teams while on flightpath |
| 22:14.04 | Vladinator | the flight stops and backtracks |
| 22:14.10 | Vladinator | each time it spawns a companion :P |
| 22:14.22 | Vladinator | you can thus make your flight last probably twice as long if you keep doing it lol |
| 22:15.25 | bluspacecow | http://www.commodoreusa.net/cusa_c64.aspx ? |
| 22:15.38 | mckenziemc | bluspacecow |
| 22:15.43 | bluspacecow | hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm |
| 22:16.07 | mckenziemc | hi |
| 22:16.16 | bluspacecow | hi :3 |
| 22:18.40 | Fisker | want to love me bluspacecow ? |
| 22:18.50 | bluspacecow | i sleepy fisker |
| 22:18.51 | bluspacecow | zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz |
| 22:18.56 | Fisker | ok |
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| 22:19.17 | Vladinator | anyone coded a nameplate addon? |
| 22:19.38 | mckenziemc | nope no one |
| 22:21.40 | Shadowed | oh awesome |
| 22:21.54 | Shadowed | VuhDos way of reshowing the default Blizzard UI is to call RegisterAllEvents on each of them |
| 22:21.55 | Shadowed | :| |
| 22:22.06 | End_ | wow |
| 22:22.35 | End_ | when I said wow, it haven't even sank in how dumb that is yet |
| 22:22.42 | bluspacecow | y |
| 22:22.43 | End_ | s/haven't/hadn't/ |
| 22:22.56 | bluspacecow | oh god |
| 22:23.01 | bluspacecow | he's hooking all events ? |
| 22:23.10 | bluspacecow | what if he stuffs up in hooking them |
| 22:23.13 | Shadowed | it's even worse than that |
| 22:23.15 | bluspacecow | *shivers* |
| 22:23.25 | bluspacecow | do i need Fisker to hold me for this ? |
| 22:23.31 | Shadowed | For his code to hide or show Blizzard stuff, to show it, he'll call RegisterAllEvents on EVERY Blizzard thing |
| 22:23.50 | Shadowed | so TargetFrame, TargetFrameHealthBar, TargetFrameManaBar, TargetFrameToT, FocusFrameToT will all have every event registered for them |
| 22:23.59 | Shadowed | If they aren't being hidden in vuhdo it looks like |
| 22:24.27 | End_ | I wouldn't be surprised if some of those probably assume they only get events for their unit now, and act strangely if they get events for other units |
| 22:24.28 | bluspacecow | that's sickeningly lazy |
| 22:24.30 | Shadowed | Repeat this for the focus frames, pet frames, player frames, raid frames, etc |
| 22:24.35 | Shadowed | yea I'm going to go yell at them for being an idiot |
| 22:24.39 | Shadowed | since it's causing issues in SUF anywa |
| 22:24.42 | Shadowed | anyway* |
| 22:24.49 | bluspacecow | REGISTER ALL THE EVENTS! |
| 22:25.16 | End_ | that's so bad it goes from bad to hilarious to ...something else entirely |
| 22:25.38 | neutronimity | it goes to .. "ermm .." |
| 22:25.53 | neutronimity | for me at least |
| 22:26.09 | Shadowed | annd of course healbot does it too |
| 22:26.10 | Shadowed | sigh |
| 22:26.22 | neutronimity | Wouldn't that be a huge fps drop, or something? |
| 22:26.35 | Shadowed | yes |
| 22:26.47 | Shadowed | It means your event handler is called for every single event fired by the WoW API |
| 22:26.54 | Shadowed | which is quite large as you would imagine |
| 22:26.55 | End_ | it's basically only meant for debugging |
| 22:27.01 | neutronimity | And nobody, uhm, kind of complained about it? |
| 22:27.07 | End_ | well |
| 22:27.10 | End_ | they complained to Shadowed |
| 22:27.14 | neutronimity | I mean, if you just find out about that. |
| 22:27.16 | neutronimity | Aah |
| 22:27.21 | Shadowed | Nobody would ever actually find this out |
| 22:27.24 | End_ | but they probably notice stuff wasn't staying hidden |
| 22:27.27 | Shadowed | I only found it out since I was confirming another bug |
| 22:27.29 | Shadowed | yea what End_ said |
| 22:27.48 | Vladinator | what is vudoh? |
| 22:27.53 | Shadowed | raid frame addon |
| 22:27.53 | neutronimity | I use Grid+Clique .__. |
| 22:28.03 | Shadowed | RegisterAllEvents was only added to give us a way of debugging events in WoW |
| 22:28.17 | Shadowed | because originally we had a giant list of events that afaik was pulled out of WoW and from the binary |
| 22:29.16 | durcyn | what the actual fuck |
| 22:30.11 | Fisker | good thing they never made RegisterAllIPThieves |
| 22:30.40 | mckenziemc | calls stab(Fisker) |
| 22:30.45 | Fisker | don't hate the player |
| 22:30.47 | Fisker | hate the game |
| 22:31.07 | Vladinator | I hate the buggy pet battles :( |
| 22:31.14 | Vladinator | and illogical sitations that can happen :3 |
| 22:31.40 | Vladinator | for instance traps should go first, if your pet is slow and enemy attacks, it dies, your trap "round" is lost :P |
| 22:31.47 | Vladinator | pokeballs always went first ^^ |
| 22:34.56 | Fisker | is it pokemon? |
| 22:34.56 | Vladinator | wish my trap achievement worked, old trap misses too often |
| 22:35.11 | mckenziemc | throws a Master Ball at Fisker. |
| 22:35.15 | Vladinator | why break a winning formula? :P |
| 22:35.39 | Vladinator | your pet speed != your trap throwing speed |
| 22:37.35 | Vladinator | traps missing if enemy is under ground or flying :P |
| 22:41.52 | Vladinator | ckis stupid or just asking too many questions? |
| 22:42.00 | Vladinator | Is A* |
| 22:42.47 | Vladinator | http://ibot.rikers.org/stats/wowuidev.html.gz |
| 22:42.50 | Vladinator | it said it itself |
| 22:44.12 | Coote | Wow, does anybody proof read quests at Blizzard these days? "I really wish you guys would stop throwing the buckets at the fire too haver been fine." Freaking horrible. |
| 22:44.25 | Vladinator | lol |
| 22:45.36 | Vladinator | where did you read that? |
| 22:45.48 | Coote | turning in the quest My Town, It's on Fire. |
| 22:46.15 | Vladinator | game was in a year beta, no time to proof read anything :D |
| 22:47.42 | Coote | http://i.imgur.com/Z24Dd.jpg |
| 22:51.06 | cbreak | http://games.slashdot.org/story/12/10/07/217222/entire-cities-in-world-of-warcraft-dead-hack-suspected |
| 22:51.08 | xyphoid_ | the innkeeper in alliance vale has a typo too |
| 22:52.01 | xyphoid_ | Matron Vi Vinh says: I have the softest featherbeads you can find for a thousand miles. Would you like to try one? |
| 22:52.56 | Vladinator | http://imgur.com/gallery/KOolj looks like something I do in the toilet :P |
| 22:56.11 | Coote | brb, going to vomit now. |
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| 22:57.52 | Vladinator | http://imgur.com/gallery/sDrtw |
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| 23:24.21 | pompy | Coote: you misspelled that sentence from what it is anyway :P |
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| 23:33.10 | Vladinator | in the scenes with hagrid the other actors often look too high up or too far down :P CGI |
| 23:38.42 | Coote | Pompy: I did, but I'm not in a place where I should be proof reading what I post. ;p |
| 23:41.05 | Vladinator | Coote 100 lines on IRC "I need double check what I type." go |
| 23:58.41 | Maldivia | stretches |
