| 00:00.00 | Gnarfoz | Shadowed: have you heard of the new unit classification 'minus'? does suf support it? |
| 00:00.06 | Shadowed | the what |
| 00:00.15 | Gnarfoz | yeah, that was my first reaction |
| 00:00.24 | Shadowed | are you sure you aren't making shit up |
| 00:00.29 | Gnarfoz | nope |
| 00:00.39 | Gnarfoz | http://imgur.com/fBtYK |
| 00:00.44 | Gnarfoz | they look like this @ default ui |
| 00:00.47 | Gnarfoz | no mana bar |
| 00:00.57 | Shadowed | uh what |
| 00:01.03 | Gnarfoz | tiptac has this to say |
| 00:01.03 | Gnarfoz | classification_minus = "-%s ",-- New classification in MoP; Unsure what it's used for, but apparently the units have no mana. Example of use: The "Sha Haunts" early in the Horde's quests in Thunder Hold. |
| 00:01.08 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 00:01.18 | Gnarfoz | (it's in blizzard framexml, too, obviously) |
| 00:01.20 | kd3 | the default UI only shows a healthbar |
| 00:01.27 | Shadowed | mmm |
| 00:01.28 | kd3 | and the unit portrait |
| 00:01.32 | Gnarfoz | (as my screenshot shows, kd3 :)) |
| 00:01.42 | Shadowed | Is there anything special about them besides no mana |
| 00:01.50 | kd3 | no |
| 00:01.51 | Gnarfoz | they're useless mobs :D |
| 00:01.56 | Amarande | they're weaker and worth less XP than normal mobs |
| 00:02.05 | Gnarfoz | they're mostly 'no exp', 'die in 1-2 hits' type of mobs |
| 00:02.11 | Shadowed | ok |
| 00:02.19 | Gnarfoz | at least that's what my guildies say who actually play with default unitframes |
| 00:02.34 | Gnarfoz | I didn't even notice it before they said something because I obviously use SUF |
| 00:02.35 | Gnarfoz | ;D |
| 00:03.25 | xyphoid | might be worth checking if the minion imps from the first couple of Burning Crusade quests have that flag |
| 00:03.34 | xyphoid | they had that behaviour - low xp, low hp, less loot |
| 00:03.56 | Shadowed | no |
| 00:03.58 | Shadowed | it's a new flag |
| 00:03.58 | Gnarfoz | worth? hm. I kind of doubt they went back through everything and re-flagged it... but you never know |
| 00:04.58 | xyphoid | yeah, i was just wondering if it was a flag that was always there at the database level but not exposed until they needed it for the UI |
| 00:04.59 | Shadowed | I'll just do what I always do |
| 00:05.04 | Shadowed | which is drycode it and make someone else test it |
| 00:05.11 | Gnarfoz | hehe |
| 00:05.16 | Shadowed | It most likely was a flag internally, yes |
| 00:05.23 | Shadowed | They just did a cleanup of the UI and made it more clear to users with MoP |
| 00:05.25 | kd3 | if you need a non-phased mob to test, the dragon turtles up at the pools of purity in vfw are tagged |
| 00:05.41 | Shadowed | that requires way more effort |
| 00:05.43 | Shadowed | than alpha testing suckers |
| 00:05.45 | Shadowed | (like Gnarfoz) |
| 00:05.57 | Amarande | as I noted previously, they seem similar to the type of mob common in LOTRO (if you've ever played that) that's named "Swarm" |
| 00:05.57 | Gnarfoz | bleeding edge, bitch |
| 00:06.14 | Gnarfoz | </Jesse> |
| 00:06.14 | Amarande | (just as the usually named-quest-mob types with more HP than a normal mob but not true elites are similar to "Signature" mobs from there) |
| 00:07.01 | Gnarfoz | I will read EVERY sentence ending in ", bitch." in Jesse Pinkman's voice, for, like, forever. (bitch) |
| 00:07.35 | Shadowed | Do they return any sort of power data Gnarfoz that you've seen in SUF |
| 00:07.41 | Shadowed | I assume not |
| 00:07.46 | Gnarfoz | nope |
| 00:07.50 | Gnarfoz | i'll go check |
| 00:08.11 | Gnarfoz | any GetUnitPowerType func I can call, or something? |
| 00:08.24 | Shadowed | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:08.32 | Shadowed | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:08.40 | Shadowed | I assume it just defaults everything to mana |
| 00:08.57 | Stanzilla | debugging sessions again? :D |
| 00:09.09 | Shadowed | no verifying what I'm sure is right |
| 00:09.24 | Gnarfoz | Shadowed: 0, 0 |
| 00:09.42 | Shadowed | Is that the first or the second Gnarfoz |
| 00:09.45 | Shadowed | I assume the second |
| 00:09.48 | Gnarfoz | (they're dead, hope that doesn't matter) |
| 00:09.52 | Gnarfoz | Shadowed: second |
| 00:09.59 | Shadowed | it does for the second |
| 00:10.02 | Shadowed | not for the first |
| 00:10.47 | Gnarfoz | found a live one, also 0, 0 |
| 00:10.59 | Shadowed | kk excellent |
| 00:11.04 | Gnarfoz | return from the first one is |
| 00:11.06 | Gnarfoz | 1, "RAGE" |
| 00:11.09 | Shadowed | heh |
| 00:11.10 | Shadowed | odd |
| 00:11.13 | Shadowed | k thanks |
| 00:11.16 | Gnarfoz | they're melee mobs |
| 00:11.18 | Gnarfoz | no idea :D |
| 00:12.24 | Stanzilla | Ignore it? D |
| 00:12.29 | Stanzilla | oops |
| 00:12.31 | Stanzilla | wrong channel |
| 00:14.56 | Shadowed | I assume minin is technically accurate Gnarfoz |
| 00:15.17 | Shadowed | minion* |
| 00:15.33 | alestane | Always an interesting thing to find in the documentation: http://developer.android.com/reference/android/app/ActivityManager.html#isUserAMonkey%28%29 |
| 00:18.23 | Maldivia | so, true in most cases |
| 00:24.49 | Gnarfoz | Shadowed: totally different question: is there no [druid:eclipse:cur] tag? one of my guildies is confused by not being able to have a numeric representation ;o |
| 00:24.55 | Shadowed | no |
| 00:25.08 | Shadowed | There probably should be one |
| 00:25.19 | Shadowed | but that's mostly nevcairiel's fault because he wrote it not me |
| 00:25.54 | Shadowed | What should it be, just a percentage or like -50 -> 50 text |
| 00:26.28 | Gnarfoz | probably -100 / +100 (that';s what the default ui does, at least) |
| 00:26.38 | Shadowed | k |
| 00:28.42 | Shadowed | uh are you sure |
| 00:29.07 | durcyn | Shadowed: you're missing an end in layout.lua:432 after that last commit |
| 00:29.20 | Shadowed | I didn't touch layout.lua |
| 00:29.22 | Shadowed | so that's very unlikely |
| 00:29.34 | durcyn | this is the error my interpreter is throwing |
| 00:29.34 | Shadowed | And when I login it works fine |
| 00:29.37 | Shadowed | so very unlikely |
| 00:30.08 | durcyn | still throwing it on reload, what the actual fuck |
| 00:30.20 | Shadowed | I blame you |
| 00:30.34 | durcyn | it's calling .Tags:Register |
| 00:30.53 | Shadowed | I'm getting no error so |
| 00:31.39 | Gnarfoz | (neither am I, just sayin' :D) |
| 00:31.50 | durcyn | are you using shortclassification in any of your tags? |
| 00:31.53 | Gnarfoz | Shadowed: no, I'm not, that's what he said... I don't even have a druid myself |
| 00:32.32 | durcyn | Shadowed: yeah, it's the shortclassification tag |
| 00:33.25 | Shadowed | not a missing end |
| 00:34.17 | durcyn | obviously, but that was the first error thrown |
| 00:35.56 | Vladinator | I had a strange situation where my saved table was suddenly missing a lot of entries, I had like 800 and suddenly I see only 40 :/ |
| 00:36.28 | Vladinator | it's weird because all I do to the table is only add entries, never removing :/ |
| 00:37.13 | Amarande | Vlad: the BOFH says your power supply is inadequate. therefore, the computer occasionally cannabilises data in order to turn it into additional power for the machine to run on :) |
| 00:37.24 | Vladinator | :p |
| 00:37.44 | Vladinator | I am just worried if something like this can happen :( |
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| 00:39.52 | Ressy | snickers |
| 01:09.09 | Dagmar | Vladinator: mysql? |
| 01:09.30 | Vladinator | talking about addon :p |
| 01:09.34 | Dagmar | Ah |
| 01:09.50 | Dagmar | If the client crashes during exit it can f**k the variables pretty hard |
| 01:09.58 | Vladinator | :( |
| 01:10.05 | Vladinator | that I can not say |
| 01:10.18 | Vladinator | haven't had crashes for ages but.. |
| 01:10.25 | Dagmar | I've had it happen a total of twice |
| 01:10.37 | Dagmar | I suspect it's the reason the client keeps the last copy around as an obviously-named backup file |
| 01:11.05 | Vladinator | just sad that when I noticed this the backup file was already been replaced with the broken one :P |
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| 01:11.28 | Dagmar | Yeah that's kind of a bitch |
| 01:12.04 | nilyaK | makes bitchy comments. |
| 01:12.57 | Vladinator | once I login and saw my UI had reset |
| 01:12.59 | Adys | "That's actually what cracks me up about most Schwarzenegger movies. He'll be a cop, or a lawyer/father/husband, or a cyborg, or Conan the Barbarian, or Mr. Freeze... |
| 01:13.00 | Adys | But the dude always talks in this hilarious Austrian accent and everyone else acts like they don't notice." |
| 01:13.18 | Vladinator | so I figure "oh I exit now and fix it" then /facepalm when I realize exiting got rid of the .bak files and replaced them with the broken data :D |
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| 01:27.28 | Adys | What I'm supposed to type: ls -alhs |
| 01:27.37 | Adys | What I always end up typing because it works anyway: ls -lashahsha |
| 01:27.38 | Ressy | Hotfix! http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/6759237078#1Mi |
| 01:28.23 | Adys | Ressy: no kidding; that looked reasonable at first but seeing the way you have to go through two factions to get some of them its idiotic |
| 01:29.51 | durcyn | Shadowed: power.lua:67 attempt to call method SetMinMaxValue on minion NPCs |
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| 01:46.37 | Amarande | Adys: and on top of that, the gear's apparently not even as good as what you get from heroic dungeons at 90 |
| 01:46.47 | Amarande | which are the standard dungeons at 90, since there's no normal level 90 dungeons as I recall reading |
| 01:47.43 | Amarande | although ... didn't the JP stuff pretty much suck in Cata and LK too until the second tier came out and loads of epics rolled over from the VP section? |
| 01:50.10 | mckenziemc | welcome back Cairenn |
| 01:50.16 | Cairenn | thanks mckenziemc |
| 01:56.46 | kd3 | ugh. a 40 minute lfd queue |
| 01:56.55 | kd3 | </3 being dps during the leveling wave |
| 01:58.19 | Amarande | apparently the scenario screen lies, too |
| 01:58.34 | Amarande | before today, I was told I couldn't do theramore because I don't have i353 and my ilvl was (341, then 349, then 352) |
| 01:58.34 | Shirik | kd3: </3 being dps always |
| 01:58.46 | Shirik | When I first started I was dps |
| 01:58.49 | Shirik | was so bored during raids |
| 01:58.49 | Amarande | today, I hit i353 and it just says "you do not meet the requirements for this instance" even though the level still says 85 |
| 01:58.59 | Shirik | The only way I stayed unbored was by writing RDX modules during the raid |
| 01:59.01 | kd3 | because it was only open for 85s before mists |
| 01:59.07 | Amarande | Shirik: you switched to heals right? |
| 01:59.10 | kd3 | it is now 90-only |
| 01:59.11 | Shirik | yup |
| 01:59.15 | Amarande | kd3: it still says 85 in the scenario pane, though :S |
| 01:59.18 | Shirik | now I feel like I actually have to think during fights |
| 01:59.24 | kd3 | because we haven't had a client-side patch |
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| 02:08.01 | starlon | wowhead is dog slow |
| 02:12.19 | pompy | haah yeah, and starlon .. http://i.imgur.com/fK17W.png :O |
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| 02:27.02 | Rythal | peeks |
| 02:29.59 | Semlar | you |
| 02:30.13 | Rythal | not me |
| 02:30.18 | Semlar | YES YOU |
| 02:30.24 | Rythal | I didn't do it |
| 02:30.28 | Semlar | i think you did |
| 02:30.55 | Semlar | someone was looking for you earlier |
| 02:31.03 | Rythal | It was farmer yoon, I saw him |
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| 02:31.24 | bluspacecow | *facepalm* |
| 02:31.29 | Rythal | looking for me? in here? |
| 02:31.34 | Semlar | indeed |
| 02:31.45 | bluspacecow | v2.9.9 |
| 02:31.49 | bluspacecow | is not 2.99 |
| 02:31.52 | bluspacecow | its 2.9 |
| 02:31.55 | bluspacecow | as in lower then v2.9.20 |
| 02:32.05 | bluspacecow | one of my addons was out of date >_> |
| 02:32.16 | bluspacecow | i'm a silly cow |
| 02:32.22 | Semlar | what are you going on about |
| 02:40.20 | Cairenn | pounces Rythal |
| 02:40.22 | Cairenn | hi |
| 02:40.36 | Rythal | Hiya Cairenn :) |
| 02:43.47 | Semlar | lua> print("2.9.9" > "2.9.20") |
| 02:43.48 | lua_bot | Semlar: true |
| 02:44.27 | Semlar | >_> |
| 02:45.09 | Rythal | heh |
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| 02:46.02 | Neffi | Maybe some faith in humanity can be preserved after all |
| 02:46.06 | Neffi | http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2012/10/judge-decries-excessive-copyright-and-software-patent-protections/ |
| 02:46.38 | Neffi | Apparently not everything involved in legilsature is totally obvlivious to the obvious truth |
| 02:46.46 | bluspacecow | @Semlar I had an issue with MonkeyBuddy. Looking at the list of addons I saw the other Monkey* addons at v2.9.19 and MonkeyBuddy at v2.9.9 and thought it was v2.9.99 |
| 02:46.48 | bluspacecow | >_> |
| 02:46.48 | Neffi | Not that he can do too much as a single judge, but still |
| 02:48.39 | Mr_Rabies | i've never had a game or expansion change my diet until now |
| 02:48.51 | Semlar | strictly bamboo from here on out |
| 02:49.12 | Rythal | bamboo's expensive >< |
| 02:49.15 | Mr_Rabies | i've eaten more chinese food and drank more tea this past week or so than i'd like to admit |
| 02:49.20 | Mr_Rabies | also beer |
| 02:49.28 | Semlar | sounds healthy enough |
| 02:49.38 | Neffi | Weird. I suddenly craved beer after doing the Valley of the Four Winds quests last night |
| 02:49.42 | Neffi | Subliminal advertising? |
| 02:50.05 | Mr_Rabies | I want to try to make Chen's The Emperor |
| 02:50.10 | Rythal | someone check if blizz bought stock in chinese resturaunts |
| 02:50.20 | Mr_Rabies | lol |
| 02:50.42 | Neffi | If that happened, I would bet it'd be an under the table kinda deal |
| 02:50.55 | Neffi | You dont want any evidence of subliminal anything. That's just messy. |
| 02:51.22 | Semlar | now all they need to do is implement a way to order food from directly inside the game |
| 02:54.55 | Neffi | Well if that feature shows up, then it confirms my suspision that at least 1 WoW dev hangs around here |
| 02:54.58 | Mr_Rabies | semlar: http://i.imgur.com/rAytH.jpg |
| 02:55.18 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:56.06 | Semlar | clearly a prototype |
| 02:56.40 | Rythal | wouldn't be the first game to do it |
| 02:56.50 | Mr_Rabies | http://web.archive.org/web/20050404022327/http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/underdev/pandaren-xpress.html |
| 02:58.33 | Mr_Rabies | urgh |
| 02:58.41 | Semlar | they have the right idea |
| 02:58.42 | Mr_Rabies | i think blizzard's gonna convince me to get pearl of pandaria |
| 02:58.59 | Mr_Rabies | li li and chen are some of the best ideas in MoP to date |
| 02:59.19 | Mr_Rabies | they're like the companions in D3, minus the suicidal tendencies |
| 02:59.20 | Neffi | Li li's annoying as fuck |
| 02:59.25 | Neffi | Chen's a cool dude though |
| 02:59.26 | Mr_Rabies | I think she's hilarious |
| 02:59.43 | Neffi | In a "i wanna strange you" way, yeah |
| 03:00.09 | Mr_Rabies | i kept her around for a long time, basically saved that quest chain for last because i wanted to hear snarky comments while questing |
| 03:07.43 | bluspacecow | @Mr_Rabies i brought a copy of that already |
| 03:08.00 | Mr_Rabies | i really, really like the art |
| 03:08.17 | Mr_Rabies | i normally aim towards more detailed art in comics, but i can't pass up clean lines |
| 03:08.37 | bluspacecow | story not so bad art's a little too colorful in places. not as much to be garish but may need to look at it a bit longer to see the action |
| 03:08.50 | bluspacecow | not impressed by the dust cover the hard cover come in tho >_> |
| 03:09.06 | bluspacecow | it wasn't made to fit on the book properly |
| 03:09.28 | Mr_Rabies | how so? |
| 03:09.34 | Mr_Rabies | does it fall off as soon as you open the book? |
| 03:09.36 | bluspacecow | it was snug against the book when I had it open on the desk |
| 03:10.11 | bluspacecow | i could of taped it so it was snug but that would of left a few mm of the cover not snug against the sides |
| 03:10.25 | bluspacecow | wasn't snug |
| 03:11.15 | bluspacecow | so i could have it open on the desk but there would be enormous gaps between where the dust cover when hang off the book and the book itself |
| 03:12.39 | bluspacecow | tried to tape it in a way that made it snug against the back but then the dust jacket sides would poke out at the sides |
| 03:13.38 | bluspacecow | book laid on side -> end of book cover |-----------| end of dust jacket cover |
| 03:13.45 | bluspacecow | there would of been a 1mm diff there |
| 03:14.01 | bluspacecow | *1cm |
| 03:17.17 | bluspacecow | get the soft cover edition :P |
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| 03:18.40 | bluspacecow | http://sphotos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/391594_486600948027571_10979015_n.jpg |
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| 03:37.10 | Neffi | Barrel's, man |
| 03:47.01 | Esamynn | what's a good mount addon these days? (one whose options will survive changes in game locale) |
| 03:52.18 | bluspacecow | what's a mount addon ? |
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| 03:56.57 | Esamynn | random mount selection? |
| 03:57.50 | bluspacecow | ah |
| 03:58.09 | bluspacecow | i can't recall any as I don't really use them |
| 03:58.59 | Esamynn | fuck it, I'll just write some custom code |
| 04:00.57 | bluspacecow | O_O |
| 04:01.00 | bluspacecow | its raining here |
| 04:01.03 | bluspacecow | and its sunny out |
| 04:01.14 | pompy | Esamynnhttp://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info8272-GoGoMount.html |
| 04:01.14 | Neffi | some drycode for ya |
| 04:01.18 | Neffi | ah nvm |
| 04:04.58 | Esamynn | pompy: there didn't seem to be any sign of config options beyond a slash command interface |
| 04:05.00 | Esamynn | ick |
| 04:05.08 | Esamynn | I'd rather write my own custom code |
| 04:05.45 | bluspacecow | then you know it |
| 04:05.49 | bluspacecow | and how to fix it :) |
| 04:06.39 | Esamynn | bingo |
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| 04:10.33 | Cairenn | was his nameo |
| 04:10.48 | Torhal | Esamynn: Squire2 |
| 04:12.57 | Esamynn | Torhal: that's at least worth a closer look, thanks |
| 04:13.04 | Torhal | np |
| 04:13.44 | Maldivia | Esamynn: random mount fits in a single macro |
| 04:14.21 | Esamynn | Maldivia: hmm? |
| 04:15.26 | batrick | omg |
| 04:15.30 | batrick | we're on 5.0.x |
| 04:15.36 | batrick | well, you all are |
| 04:15.49 | batrick | it's almost been 8 years |
| 04:15.54 | batrick | can't believe it. |
| 04:17.28 | Maldivia | Esamynn: selecting a random mount can fit in the 250 chars of a macro :) |
| 04:17.51 | Esamynn | in certain situations, sure |
| 04:18.30 | Maldivia | in almost all now that flyable actually works |
| 04:19.24 | Esamynn | and if I only want certain mounts to be possible? |
| 04:20.10 | Semlar | then you must kill off the extras |
| 04:21.29 | Maldivia | well then it's not fully random ;) |
| 04:22.06 | Esamynn | no, it's still random, just not over the full set of mounts I own |
| 04:23.04 | Maldivia | well, then one macro probably won't suffice anymore |
| 04:24.08 | Esamynn | Maldivia: gee, thank you for your astute analysis |
| 04:24.35 | Maldivia | you're very welcome |
| 04:24.46 | Esamynn | ~whaleslap Maldivia |
| 04:24.46 | purl | ACTION beats Maldivia upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh |
| 04:25.36 | Maldivia | hmm... Grant or Laurie? |
| 04:26.20 | Maldivia | ... or Hefner... |
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| 05:38.09 | Wobin | Esamynn, Maldivia: or Jackman |
| 05:38.35 | nevcairiel | my internet must be broken, because when google.com isn't responding, it must be on my end....right? |
| 05:38.44 | Wobin | generally |
| 05:39.14 | nevcairiel | hm browser restart seems to have fixed it |
| 05:39.16 | nevcairiel | how odd |
| 05:43.04 | bluspacecow | IIRC google would have geolocated CDNs everywhere |
| 05:43.17 | bluspacecow | so check DNS settings , DNS servers etc etc |
| 05:44.48 | nevcairiel | i use their dns =P |
| 05:45.08 | bluspacecow | heh |
| 05:45.09 | Shirik | google.com is the internet, right? |
| 05:45.11 | bluspacecow | which IP ? |
| 05:45.13 | Shirik | so if it's down, then the internet's down |
| 05:45.23 | nevcairiel | like i said, it fixed itself after a browser restart |
| 05:45.32 | bluspacecow | nvm |
| 05:45.55 | bluspacecow | i did not reads that ! |
| 05:46.01 | Shirik | I would be really interested in seeing how many DNS requests for google.com there are daily |
| 05:46.10 | Shirik | not to the root server, just like in general |
| 05:46.10 | bluspacecow | ... |
| 05:46.21 | bluspacecow | there's probably a tracker for that somewhere |
| 05:46.28 | bluspacecow | just don't type google into google |
| 05:46.31 | bluspacecow | you may break the internet |
| 05:46.56 | Shirik | I actually did that |
| 05:47.04 | bluspacecow | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqxLmLUT-qc |
| 05:47.07 | Shirik | I normally search for things by typing it into my browser |
| 05:47.13 | Shirik | and found that if you type google.com and then a space |
| 05:47.24 | Shirik | it changes to a blank edit box saying "Search google for:" |
| 05:47.32 | Shirik | and I was like "no fu search for google.com and more text!" |
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| 06:42.58 | bluspacecow | LOL http://www.wowhead.com/npc=64607 |
| 06:43.29 | nevcairiel | whats so funny? |
| 06:43.46 | bluspacecow | its the name of a VPN service |
| 06:43.48 | bluspacecow | lower ping ? |
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| 06:53.36 | pompy | :O http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/10/01/14173510-70-year-old-oregon-farmer-eaten-by-his-hogs?lite |
| 06:54.51 | Shirik | hey I live in Oregon! |
| 06:55.43 | bluspacecow | om nom nom nom nom |
| 06:55.56 | Shirik | you know the music you're listening to is good when you don't want to go to sleep because it would stop you from listening |
| 06:56.27 | pompy | Shirik: well make sure that doesnt ever happen to you then. :O |
| 06:56.30 | Esamynn | nah, that just means you like it |
| 06:56.34 | Esamynn | doesn't mean it's any good :P |
| 06:56.38 | Shirik | :/ |
| 06:57.23 | kd3 | ugh, what a way to go |
| 07:01.35 | jnwhiteh | Esamynn: ping |
| 07:03.05 | Esamynn | jnwhiteh: pong |
| 07:03.12 | Esamynn | it's in, I just haven't gotten the email off yet :) |
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| 07:03.16 | jnwhiteh | i'm about to release a new version |
| 07:04.14 | jnwhiteh | so I can test it out for you if you'd like |
| 07:04.28 | Esamynn | it's tested too |
| 07:04.32 | jnwhiteh | k |
| 07:04.51 | jnwhiteh | well, I want to get these two fixes out, but if I can include the new al than I will |
| 07:04.51 | jnwhiteh | =) |
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| 07:05.07 | Esamynn | yup, should be good to go |
| 07:05.14 | jnwhiteh | its in trunk? |
| 07:05.22 | Esamynn | yup |
| 07:05.28 | jnwhiteh | k |
| 07:06.11 | Esamynn | I'll get the custom minimap stuff into the trunk later this week, finished testing that tonight as well, but I still want to do the edge range multiplier stuff as well |
| 07:06.40 | jnwhiteh | phaw, one feature at a time =) |
| 07:07.51 | Esamynn | heh, biggest problem with the edge multiplier was figuring out how to do it with minimal impact on code that doesn't use it |
| 07:08.14 | Esamynn | but I'm pretty sure I've got something in my head that will work |
| 07:09.51 | Esamynn | anyways, good night |
| 07:10.18 | jnwhiteh | thanks =) |
| 07:13.36 | starlon | tanks no doubt. |
| 07:13.52 | starlon | first day tanking since vanilla |
| 07:13.58 | starlon | I suck at it. |
| 07:17.34 | jnwhiteh | oh |
| 07:17.35 | jnwhiteh | what class? |
| 07:19.49 | bluspacecow | resto shammy |
| 07:20.38 | jnwhiteh | there's your issue =) |
| 07:20.44 | jnwhiteh | i'm learning my brewmaster still |
| 07:20.49 | jnwhiteh | i do well enuogh spamming keg/fire |
| 07:20.56 | jnwhiteh | but i need to work blackout kick into my rotation |
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| 07:52.19 | Mike-N-Go | All hail the netsplit. |
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| 08:05.23 | karl_w_w | internets! |
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| 09:40.54 | pompy | ~wowalert |
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| 10:09.30 | bluspacecow | <----- needs a salad with his pizza *runs to kitchen grabs a salad bag and dumps a small mountain of greens on by the pizza* |
| 10:09.32 | bluspacecow | done :3 |
| 10:10.17 | Humbedooh | cows need their green stuff |
| 10:10.28 | bluspacecow | Moooooooooooooooooooooooooo |
| 10:10.59 | Humbedooh | not so loud, you'll wake my cows :\ |
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| 10:23.19 | karl_w_w | salad with pizza? sick bastard |
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| 10:23.45 | mmr | hello there! |
| 10:23.50 | Humbedooh | hi! |
| 10:24.12 | karl_w_w | greetings fellow ugly bag of mostly water! |
| 10:24.13 | mmr | is there an event that is fired when the player enters a zone? |
| 10:24.39 | bluspacecow | mmr was in #wowtech a few minutes ago. wants to make an addon displaying battle pets you haven't captured in a box each time you enter a zone. |
| 10:26.40 | karl_w_w | ZONE_CHANGED_NEW_AREA |
| 10:26.42 | mmr | precisely :) |
| 10:26.54 | mmr | karl_w_w: thank you man |
| 10:27.29 | bluspacecow | yes there's a macro but he doesn't want to run it each time he goes into a new zone. and he wants to give it a nice UI to |
| 10:27.30 | karl_w_w | I don't work for the man |
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| 10:29.34 | mmr | bluspacecow: I am trying to understand the macro code |
| 10:30.00 | mmr | bluspacecow: what are those bunch of underlines? |
| 10:30.30 | mmr | ahhh... i get it |
| 10:30.33 | bluspacecow | macro in question is the first one listed here : http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/6714292423#16 |
| 10:30.42 | mmr | GetPetInfoByIndex returns an array |
| 10:31.01 | mmr | _ means he is discarding this index |
| 10:31.26 | bluspacecow | not a macro writer or addon programmer but I do believe the underlines are just blanks. placefillers afaik |
| 10:31.35 | mmr | so, 0 is the id, 7 is the name and d is the zone |
| 10:31.48 | mmr | yes, figured it out |
| 10:32.37 | mmr | is there somewhere I can found the official documentation on what info should be provided by each index in the returned array from the GetPetInfoByIndex function? |
| 10:32.46 | bluspacecow | wowprogramming.com |
| 10:32.51 | bluspacecow | or wowpedia.org |
| 10:33.03 | bluspacecow | there is no official documentation. there is unofficial documenteation. |
| 10:33.14 | mmr | awww :( |
| 10:33.28 | mmr | on wowprogramming.com it says this function is not documented yet |
| 10:33.31 | mmr | bummer |
| 10:35.21 | bluspacecow | https://github.com/Ketho/GetPetInfoByIndex/blob/master/enUS.lua |
| 10:36.17 | mmr | bluspacecow: thank you! |
| 10:36.30 | bluspacecow | https://github.com/Ketho/GetPetInfoByIndex |
| 10:36.32 | mmr | found a lib in curse: LibPetJournal |
| 10:36.38 | bluspacecow | "name, speciesID, creatureID, petType, description" |
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| 10:39.08 | mmr | hm, no zone info |
| 11:03.24 | mmr | where can I found a list of all possible events in 5.0.4? |
| 11:03.57 | mmr | for example, when a new tracked item (in the minimap) appears, what event is fired? |
| 11:12.25 | jnwhiteh | there isn't onw |
| 11:12.34 | jnwhiteh | but you can do two things: /eventtrace and then watch |
| 11:12.52 | jnwhiteh | and check http://wowprogramming.com/docs/events which is a listing of all events |
| 11:12.55 | jnwhiteh | but there is no event for minimap event |
| 11:13.05 | jnwhiteh | that's all handled in magic C land on purpose, so we do not have access to it |
| 11:15.24 | mmr | godamit :( |
| 11:15.38 | mmr | how does the npcscan mod works? |
| 11:16.10 | bluspacecow | scans the cache folders |
| 11:19.35 | mmr | yeah, theres no event in eventtrace for when the critters appear :( |
| 11:19.52 | mmr | bluspacecow: can i do something similar for the companions? |
| 11:20.03 | bluspacecow | idunnolol.jpg |
| 11:25.38 | mmr | well, i have to learn a lot |
| 11:25.45 | mmr | bluspacecow: thank you man, gotta go now |
| 11:25.47 | mmr | bye |
| 11:57.26 | Fisker | dhey jnwhiteh |
| 11:57.28 | Fisker | with a d |
| 12:05.20 | jnwhiteh | dhey Fisker |
| 12:05.20 | jnwhiteh | with a d |
| 12:05.32 | mikma | lol |
| 12:05.52 | Kalroth | and it's okaaaaay, to give me everything i neeeeeeeed |
| 12:11.02 | mikma | aaaand you have herpes. |
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| 12:44.40 | bluspacecow | ~wowalert |
| 12:44.40 | purl | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US); http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) [NB: Returns empty content unless there is an active alert] |
| 12:44.53 | bluspacecow | ~Peppyalert |
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| 12:55.06 | Vladinator | ~bluspacecowalert |
| 12:56.52 | bluspacecow | *dances* |
| 12:56.59 | bluspacecow | OPPA BLUSPACECOW STYLE! |
| 12:57.07 | bluspacecow | ….space cow style! |
| 13:01.34 | bluspacecow | I wonder if this is even needed anymore : http://www.curse.com/addons/wow/inspectfix |
| 13:01.35 | bluspacecow | BRB |
| 13:03.31 | nevcairiel | Shadowed: got this on login on one of my chars, latest alpha of SUF: http://pastebin.com/FxjUk4dh |
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| 13:11.09 | zenzio | I'm a bit impressed with how Spotify spent a week or more letting me know I had unused purchases, down to telling how many hours were left |
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| 13:25.27 | Lopeppeppy | Wow. Obsessive, that. :) |
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| 13:34.45 | bluspacecow | Spotify = overly obessive girlfriend ? |
| 13:34.51 | bluspacecow | >_< |
| 13:34.56 | bluspacecow | obseesive |
| 13:34.58 | bluspacecow | nvm |
| 13:41.13 | Vladinator | took you long enough! |
| 13:41.33 | Vladinator | thanks myrroddin :3 |
| 13:42.25 | bluspacecow | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:42.37 | Vladinator | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:42.49 | bluspacecow | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ta-Z_psXODw |
| 13:44.38 | Vladinator | not sure what I am looking at :p |
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| 13:48.40 | AcidWeb | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=44595 |
| 13:48.50 | AcidWeb | <PROTECTED> |
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| 13:49.30 | zenzio | "lol love the dancing banana cool if you could replace your location on the map with a dancing banana or other mini animate gifs." |
| 13:49.36 | zenzio | please make sure this person never learns coding |
| 13:52.04 | Lopeppeppy | I would use my one time machine trip to kill the person who invented animated gifs. |
| 13:53.04 | Fisker | hey jnwhiteh |
| 13:53.05 | zenzio | I'll help you fund that |
| 13:53.09 | Fisker | without a d |
| 13:53.21 | Fisker | imma getting my nexus 7 soon :O |
| 13:53.38 | zenzio | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Uc4Qdk63A8 - explicit lyrics, for those who are at work and don't use headphones |
| 13:57.56 | Vladinator | rather gifts than flash |
| 13:58.09 | Vladinator | I mean I prefer an annoying gif than an annoying flash :P |
| 13:59.11 | mikma | bluspacecow: if you have problem with spotify, talk to jnwhiteh about it |
| 13:59.37 | bluspacecow | i don't. brilliant servicef ro what i needed it for. great iOS client. |
| 13:59.44 | mikma | like so: |
| 13:59.50 | mikma | jnwhiteh: gief free premium |
| 14:00.00 | mikma | now he's like 'no.' |
| 14:00.09 | bluspacecow | "dance naked for me first" |
| 14:00.17 | bluspacecow | hey i don't need the service that badly. |
| 14:00.20 | mikma | oh i already did that last winter |
| 14:00.52 | bluspacecow | lol |
| 14:01.17 | mikma | rtharper: that reminded me, we have our own sauna now, so welcome! but if you wanna roll in the snow, mind the dogpoop at the backyard and wear a swimsuit cause there are families with children around |
| 14:01.31 | rtharper | haha nice |
| 14:01.37 | rtharper | maybe snow not necessary then |
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| 14:04.45 | mikma | rtharper: remember? http://mikma.eu/misc/IMG_0051.JPG |
| 14:05.12 | Vladinator | question, why would anyone care what you do on your property? i.e. being nude on your chair shouldn't bother others :D |
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| 14:05.38 | rtharper | wossat? |
| 14:05.55 | Vladinator | mikma said about wearing swimsuit because of other families :p |
| 14:06.11 | mikma | vladinator: we have open backyard and there's a public road next to it |
| 14:06.36 | Vladinator | so it's illegal? :( |
| 14:06.48 | bluspacecow | what if your swimsuit is you noody ? |
| 14:07.06 | Vladinator | what if you live in a glass house and you are naked at home, would that be illegal? |
| 14:07.27 | mikma | vladinator: yeah actually, it's illegal |
| 14:07.59 | Vladinator | lol |
| 14:08.46 | mikma | it's illegal to expose yourself in public and if you have seethrough house, it's public |
| 14:09.08 | Vladinator | " Nudity in the privacy of a person's home or private grounds or facilities is not public nudity." |
| 14:09.18 | Vladinator | :P |
| 14:10.52 | Vladinator | I often go naked from the bath to my room and you can see me if you look in my livingroom or kitchen window, it's 2nd floor but visible, still it's my home and your fault for looking into my home ;D |
| 14:11.01 | mikma | rtharper: "wossat?" -> it's red light in my porno-sauna |
| 14:11.21 | Humbedooh | right next to the webcam |
| 14:11.34 | Humbedooh | knows mikma...>_> |
| 14:11.39 | bluspacecow | ~wowalert |
| 14:11.39 | purl | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US); http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) [NB: Returns empty content unless there is an active alert] |
| 14:11.45 | Vladinator | hey Humbedooh |
| 14:11.51 | Humbedooh | hey Vladinator |
| 14:11.57 | rtharper | does not find saunas remotely sexy |
| 14:12.00 | rtharper | relaxing? yes |
| 14:12.02 | rtharper | but |
| 14:12.03 | rtharper | so hot |
| 14:12.04 | rtharper | and sweaty |
| 14:12.09 | rtharper | not sure how you can have any decent sex in that |
| 14:12.10 | Vladinator | that is the point? |
| 14:12.14 | rtharper | wihtout passing out |
| 14:12.15 | rtharper | hehe |
| 14:12.15 | Humbedooh | so...hot + sweaty = not sexy? |
| 14:12.27 | rtharper | Humbedooh: in 70+ C? no =p |
| 14:12.28 | mikma | rtharper: sex in sauna = marathon |
| 14:12.29 | rtharper | it does not |
| 14:12.30 | rtharper | heh |
| 14:12.51 | Humbedooh | mikma: I think he just needs to learn the Finnish ways |
| 14:13.33 | Vladinator | let me guess, get drunk, ???, wake up not remembering anything -the finish way? |
| 14:13.51 | mikma | rtharper: also, the porno in my sauna is not about the things you do in, it's the people in |
| 14:14.00 | rtharper | aha |
| 14:14.18 | rtharper | Humbedooh: better than the Danish ways, amirite? |
| 14:14.34 | bluspacecow | https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/284172_534907166523315_414841134_n.jpg |
| 14:14.35 | rtharper | is quite happy going Swede |
| 14:14.36 | bluspacecow | *sniff* |
| 14:14.43 | Vladinator | give me an appendix of all the different ways so I can compare please :P |
| 14:14.45 | Humbedooh | rtharper: well, the Danish ways seem boring to me, but go figure :) |
| 14:14.48 | rtharper | hehe |
| 14:15.49 | mikma | rtharper: as being swede, never ever mix the finnish and swedish sauna as one |
| 14:15.58 | rtharper | haha |
| 14:16.10 | rtharper | what would you say the difference is, mikma? |
| 14:16.20 | rtharper | swedish sauna seems less hot/more humid |
| 14:16.22 | Humbedooh | uh, the level of awesomeness for one? |
| 14:16.25 | mikma | rtharper: i'll show it to you in images |
| 14:16.41 | Humbedooh | mikma: images that will burn themselves onto his retinas? :p |
| 14:17.00 | mikma | rtharper: swedish: http://www.icesweden.com/images/sauna-in-sweden.jpg |
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| 14:17.37 | mikma | rtharper: finnish: http://www.asiaone.com/static/multimedia/gallery/100808_sauna/images/pic3.jpg |
| 14:17.38 | Humbedooh | sees a pattern |
| 14:17.46 | rtharper | lol |
| 14:17.55 | rtharper | what is that, then? |
| 14:17.56 | rtharper | =p |
| 14:18.00 | mikma | aaahahahahaa, i'm such a bad boy |
| 14:18.14 | mikma | that's the russian who died in the sauna worldchampionship |
| 14:18.18 | mikma | http://forums.vr-zone.com/newsroom/799072-news-1-dies-sauna-contest.html |
| 14:18.36 | rtharper | fuck you, telia -_- |
| 14:18.37 | rtharper | "Det går inte att registrera sig på Mina Sidor om du saknar en folkbokföringsadress i Sverige. Du måste även ha ett svenskt personnummer för att kunna registrera ett Mina Sidor konto." |
| 14:19.05 | Humbedooh | still no personnummer? :\ |
| 14:19.43 | rtharper | In theory |
| 14:19.45 | rtharper | I can have it on Monday |
| 14:20.06 | rtharper | although I ahve to say that whole experience, arguing with three different case officers in Swedish about the laws on civil registry |
| 14:20.22 | rtharper | was the reason I now don't feel afraid to say "I speak Swedish" |
| 14:20.27 | rtharper | instead of "I speak a little Swedish" |
| 14:20.40 | Humbedooh | good for you :) |
| 14:20.58 | rtharper | one of them women was all accusatory as well |
| 14:21.01 | rtharper | "Have you had a personnummer before?" |
| 14:21.03 | rtharper | "no..." |
| 14:21.09 | rtharper | "Have you ever lived in Sweden before?" |
| 14:21.11 | rtharper | "wtf? no..." |
| 14:21.17 | rtharper | "Oh... your Swedish is really good" |
| 14:21.19 | rtharper | "Thanks?" |
| 14:21.39 | rtharper | "Can I have my personnummer now?" |
| 14:21.44 | mikma | after you've mastered the language, learn finnish |
| 14:21.49 | rtharper | "Nej, invandrarjävel" |
| 14:21.53 | rtharper | (okay not really) |
| 14:21.56 | Humbedooh | haha |
| 14:22.11 | rtharper | mikma: that's scary |
| 14:22.23 | Humbedooh | rtharper: apparently it's much easier to get a personnummer in Malmö ;P |
| 14:22.28 | rtharper | haha |
| 14:22.29 | mikma | rtharper: people think so but yet they've seem to manage it |
| 14:22.38 | rtharper | mikma: yeah, I woul djust need a lot of practice |
| 14:22.52 | mikma | rtharper: i have a mumble, lol |
| 14:24.04 | rtharper | hehe |
| 14:24.30 | Lopeppeppy | "one of them women" *giggle snort* |
| 14:26.47 | mckenziemc | hugs Lopeppeppy |
| 14:28.40 | Arrowmaster | http://gamestatics.com/news/microsoft-rewards-political-awareness-avatar-armor/ |
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| 14:31.17 | alestane | alestane missed something... nothing new there. |
| 14:35.25 | mikma | rtharper: so, johanna's friends are having some sort of 30 year crisis ... |
| 14:35.31 | rtharper | oh? |
| 14:35.34 | rtharper | meaning? |
| 14:35.51 | mikma | rtharper: i decided to help them out and had people in my work print them couple of stickers |
| 14:36.08 | rtharper | oh dear |
| 14:36.11 | mikma | rtharper: http://alk.tiehallinto.fi/www2/liikennemerkit/images/364.gif <- that one but with numbers 20 in |
| 14:36.30 | rtharper | LOL |
| 14:36.33 | rtharper | aren't you nice |
| 14:37.01 | mikma | oh yeah, i think it'll be a nice gift for them |
| 14:37.22 | mikma | it's the same exact material they use to daily to print the trafficsigns on ;D |
| 14:37.31 | Humbedooh | 30, big deal... |
| 14:37.33 | mikma | altho, those stickers are rater small, 10cm x 10cm |
| 14:37.38 | mikma | rather* |
| 14:37.53 | mikma | but flash them with a light, and you'll see what i mean :D |
| 14:38.09 | mikma | 3M reflective material, lol |
| 14:43.57 | rtharper | how old are Humbedooh? |
| 14:44.13 | Humbedooh | 30-- |
| 14:44.16 | rtharper | ah |
| 14:44.18 | rtharper | not bad |
| 14:44.19 | rtharper | ;) |
| 14:44.37 | Humbedooh | that was leet speak for 29, in case someone didn't get it :( |
| 14:44.56 | mikma | maybe i should print one more and send it to you too |
| 14:45.06 | Humbedooh | mikma: nah, I don't care that I'll turn 30 :p |
| 14:45.07 | mikma | a larger version so you can stick it on your wall |
| 14:45.35 | mikma | humbedooh: i don't understand people that actually care about it :P hence why i'm going to piss them off with the stickers |
| 14:45.53 | Humbedooh | mikma: 'cause 30 is so much worse than 29.99999.... ;) |
| 14:46.53 | mikma | like, 0.00001 worse |
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| 14:49.14 | Humbedooh | when I started going online, 15 years ago, people thought I was in my thirties, so I've had quite a while to get used to being called old :p |
| 14:59.18 | Fisker | man jnwhiteh is jelly rtharper |
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| 15:06.37 | rtharper | is he? |
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| 15:07.27 | jnwhiteh | so jelly |
| 15:08.32 | Unkle | y u no peanut butter? |
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| 15:10.03 | mikma | because milkshake |
| 15:10.16 | mikma | yes, i remember that shake jnwhiteh |
| 15:10.20 | Unkle | In the yard? |
| 15:10.30 | mikma | all the boys |
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| 15:11.12 | Unkle | I got some groceries. Some peanut butter. Should last a couple of days. |
| 15:12.26 | Maldivia | in other words, the jar is empty tonight |
| 15:13.01 | Unkle | But it used to have whiskey in it. |
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| 15:16.12 | Maldivia | another reason for it to be empty by tonight |
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| 15:20.22 | durcyn | make sure it's not the recalled peanut butter, Unkle. |
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| 15:21.45 | Vladinator | wowhead doesn't have the mop maps yet :( |
| 15:22.00 | Unkle | durcyn Ack! *dies* |
| 15:36.41 | Unkle | Vladinator - Maps are on Wowpedia |
| 15:39.17 | Humbedooh | oh hai animated gif from 1999, please die :( |
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| 15:45.05 | Vladinator | Semlar: got a question, if I got the coordinate 50,50 and wish to translate them to match the MOP world map, got an idea? :P |
| 15:45.58 | bluspacecow | lol @ "A visit with Lorewalker Cho" quest. <------ reminds me of the Karate Kid movie. Wash on ! Wash off ! |
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| 15:48.51 | foxlit | "Do you want to unlearn all of your glyphs? (68 gold)" waaaaait a second, I could buy a bazillion tomes for that price. |
| 15:49.36 | Lopeppeppy | What's the default text editor in Mac... TextEdit? Something like that... |
| 15:49.52 | Maldivia | yeah |
| 15:50.59 | alestane | TextEdit, yes, Peppy. |
| 15:51.25 | alestane | Use Shift-Cmd-T if you need to edit plain text. |
| 15:55.07 | Unkle | TextEdit preserves rich text by default so shift-cmd-t is a /handy/ shortcut to memorize. |
| 15:56.17 | Lopeppeppy | I'm not on a mac myself, I'm giving general directions to users. "Paste into a plain text document (Notepad or TextEdit) |
| 15:57.41 | alestane | Then it is a good idea to advise those who might be using TextEdit to convert their new document to plain text before pasting into it. |
| 16:15.13 | Semlar | vladinator: you want to translate a zone coordinate up to something on the map that displays all of the continents? |
| 16:17.59 | Vladinator | I was thinking, because, I hate it that ONLY digsites show on both zone and world maps, I wish quest bubbles and areas would also show on the upper maps :( |
| 16:18.58 | Semlar | going from the zone to the continent is relatively simple but the world map is a little more complicated |
| 16:18.59 | Vladinator | but then I started to think, damn, you need a lot of data to manage and create a proper system, not to mention the in-game 0-100 scale coordinates should also be able to be applied on upper zones and such -sorry for poor phrasing |
| 16:19.33 | Semlar | i think esamynn added the size of that map to astrolabe so it should be possible to use it for this |
| 16:20.47 | Semlar | i can tell you it's probably going to be more trouble than it's worth |
| 16:25.33 | Semlar | you'll have to scan each continent for its digsites and then translate those up to the world map so you can place them there |
| 16:30.10 | Vladinator | I know |
| 16:30.17 | Vladinator | no I meant |
| 16:30.23 | Vladinator | I like it how digsites appear on the zone maps |
| 16:30.36 | Vladinator | like pandaria map shows all zones with all digsites |
| 16:30.40 | Vladinator | I wish quests also did this :P |
| 16:31.20 | Semlar | oh sorry i didn't see that |
| 16:31.57 | Semlar | this is something i've looked into myself for my addon |
| 16:32.55 | Torhal|work | Vladinator: Archy has code for digsites that could likely be transferred to quests. |
| 16:33.04 | Torhal|work | Just look for "blob" |
| 16:33.16 | Semlar | the quest POIs tend to only be available for the zone you have the map set to |
| 16:33.42 | Vladinator | and that Semlar is poor design tbh :( |
| 16:33.52 | Semlar | essentially if you want all of them you'll have to scan every zone in the continent, but i'm not 100% on that because when i was messing with the api it was returning some unexpected results |
| 16:34.08 | Vladinator | feels much nicer to see everything like an overview when you go higher up the map zoom |
| 16:34.18 | Torhal|work | Vladinator: Not really - I'm sure it saves some memory. All you need to do is set the map to the zone you want to look at by its ID. |
| 16:34.35 | Torhal|work | Just make a mapping. |
| 16:36.00 | Semlar | okay that's not entirely true, i did figure out you could get the zone of a quest in your quest log so you should only need to scan the exact zones for the quests in the log |
| 16:36.17 | pompy | theres an item that randomizes the digsites too! |
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| 16:37.25 | pompy | ~wowitem 87549 |
| 16:37.25 | purl | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=87549 http://www.wowdb.com/item.aspx?id=87549 |
| 16:37.45 | Vladinator | welcome to 2012 pompy |
| 16:38.01 | Semlar | it's something i'm still working on because i want to add it to my map |
| 16:38.08 | Vladinator | nice Semlar ;) |
| 16:38.30 | Vladinator | just hope you won't end up creating carbonite 3 all over again ;D |
| 16:38.43 | Vladinator | if you remember carb3 never left dev stage and died in wotlk :( |
| 16:38.44 | Semlar | it's not going to be anything close to carbonite |
| 16:38.50 | Vladinator | cartographer3 |
| 16:38.52 | Vladinator | typo |
| 16:39.22 | Semlar | that could be, i can't guarantee i'll finish it |
| 16:39.51 | Semlar | i'd like to though |
| 16:40.53 | Rythal | Carbonite 3... no one wants that :| |
| 16:41.35 | Semlar | just 2? |
| 16:41.46 | pompy | 0 |
| 16:41.50 | Rythal | 2.5 maybe |
| 16:42.28 | Vladinator | maybe focus on framework |
| 16:42.53 | Vladinator | not get stuck forever on one thing :3 |
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| 16:45.55 | Semlar | what if the one thing is what makes it all work |
| 16:47.10 | Vladinator | awesome... |
| 16:47.10 | Vladinator | :3 |
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| 16:47.22 | Vladinator | is it coordinate related issues? |
| 16:47.28 | Semlar | no |
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| 16:47.46 | Vladinator | what are you suffering with? |
| 16:48.18 | Semlar | ADHD |
| 16:48.34 | Vladinator | lol |
| 16:48.43 | Vladinator | that's not something one suffers from |
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| 16:49.43 | Rythal | I do... it's damn hard to code when you keep getting distrac.. OOH SQUIRREL! |
| 16:50.07 | Vladinator | :P |
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| 16:50.33 | Vladinator | my friend has adhd and he can focus more than I can so don't blame adhd lol |
| 16:50.43 | Semlar | he's probably on something |
| 16:50.57 | Vladinator | he isn't since he was small, medication just made him sleepy |
| 16:51.03 | Vladinator | he manned up I guess :P |
| 16:51.17 | Vladinator | or maybe he invented a cure |
| 16:51.19 | Semlar | no way he has ADHD if he can actually finish tasks |
| 16:51.34 | Vladinator | well he ain't much of a thinker if you ask that :P |
| 16:51.43 | Vladinator | he can finish tasks, he loves to do physical things ;) |
| 16:52.28 | Semlar | maybe he's just exceptional |
| 16:52.34 | Rythal | physical... tried that once, just wasn't the same as mashing at the keyboard and watching stuff come to life |
| 16:53.15 | Vladinator | shrug, to me he is the standard what I base everyone else who says they got ADHD :P |
| 16:54.10 | Humbedooh | adds adhd to the list of ailments he probably suffers from |
| 16:54.51 | alestane | ADD is more typified by an inability to choose or control the focus of your attention, rather than a constant changing of attention. |
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| 16:55.32 | alestane | People with ADD (including ADHD) can be mesmerized by something as much as flit from thing to thing. |
| 16:56.04 | Rythal | :/ like waterfalls... I can sit for hours just staring at a waterfall |
| 16:56.42 | Unkle | this happens to people without a disability. They're soothing and fascinating. |
| 16:57.52 | Unkle | The best hour of my life was standing on a platform on the Canadian side of Niagara Falls and getting soaked to the bone. |
| 16:57.59 | Vladinator | I am not sure when you can say it's caused by your ADHD and when it's just personality :P |
| 16:58.06 | Torhal|work | Unkle: Whisky does have that tendency. |
| 16:58.13 | Vladinator | I can listen to rain for hours because I find it soothing myself, don't got ADHD :p |
| 16:58.43 | Unkle | Torhal|work Whiskey is good for lots of things. We should drink some at BlizzCon. |
| 16:58.55 | Unkle | And by some I mean "ALL". |
| 16:59.06 | Torhal|work | Just make sure you get the right drink. |
| 16:59.16 | alestane | It can be difficult to separate the two. I tend to regard ADD, ASD, and other "conditions" as being more appropriately termed operating styles or dispositions than "disorders" or "syndromes." |
| 17:01.38 | Vladinator | I wish I had a condition, would have a legit reason why I can't properly read without sleeping, seriously I get so bored even if I find what I read interesting... gotta have tasks otherwise I sleep. :P |
| 17:01.57 | Semlar | oh don't worry, i'm sure you have something |
| 17:02.10 | Vladinator | I loved my statistics subject because each chapter had tasks so after I did a little reading and the tasks I felt more refreshed than reading 100 pages first, then doing 100 tasks :P |
| 17:02.31 | Unkle | Or can find a doctor who will agree you have /something/ and is happy to medicate you for it. |
| 17:02.32 | Semlar | just read through the DSM |
| 17:04.16 | Rythal | My doc diagnosed and wanted to medicate me, I said no thanks... I don't need happy pills |
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| 17:04.57 | Vladinator | I don't want medications, just want others to stop asking me to perform better when I seem to have a issue I can't prove :P |
| 17:05.05 | Semlar | unfortunately people who aren't affected by something themselves can't understand how it is for somebody else |
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| 17:06.57 | Rythal | wonder why people get scared over nothing.. sudden rush of folks wanting to upgrade old computers to windows 7 before the october 28th deadline |
| 17:07.32 | Mike-N-Go | alestane: For me, I consider autism to be more of a 'personality' then a disorder. |
| 17:07.34 | Semlar | deadline for what |
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| 17:07.59 | Rythal | deadline to get windows 7 on a computer. |
| 17:08.19 | Mike-N-Go | Semlar: I second the notion of reading the DSM =P |
| 17:08.43 | Unkle | Reading the DSM will convince you that you're ill. |
| 17:08.47 | Semlar | i would actually have to recommend against reading the DSM |
| 17:09.03 | Mike-N-Go | Rythal: Good for you; I don't like pills. |
| 17:09.04 | Semlar | >_> |
| 17:09.16 | Mike-N-Go | Semlar: You were joking? It is hard to get that over text. |
| 17:09.49 | Unkle | I believe Semlar employed "sarcasm." |
| 17:09.57 | Unkle | Much like I just did. |
| 17:10.22 | Semlar | i just mean it'll probably make you think you're crazy |
| 17:10.39 | Rythal | everyone is crazy, they just don't know it yet |
| 17:10.46 | Mike-N-Go | Unkle: How was this sarcasm evident in this case? I have trouble getting understanding it even with spoken word =/ |
| 17:12.20 | Unkle | Context is the key. It was posited immediately after a request for a diagnosis of "something." If you've read the DSM you'll find you can find /something/ to explain just about any set of symptoms. |
| 17:12.55 | Unkle | The DSM is written in very broad terms, with lots of "catch all" phrasing. |
| 17:13.21 | Mike-N-Go | Ahh, I only read from the top of the hour. |
| 17:13.26 | Unkle | So you sort of had to have some experience with it and with the sort of conversations engaged in here. |
| 17:14.06 | Mike-N-Go | You mean this room *is not* used for WoW UI Development!?!~ |
| 17:14.16 | Mike-N-Go | was sarcasm. |
| 17:14.31 | Semlar | is that what this room is for |
| 17:14.56 | Semlar | i thought i was in psych 101 |
| 17:15.28 | Unkle | It just happens to be where UI developers "hang out" - and some of us are jaded, sarcastic, and otherwise generally mean personalities. |
| 17:15.46 | Semlar | there's probably a disorder for that |
| 17:15.58 | foxlit | most definitely |
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| 17:16.10 | Unkle | Yeah, the technical name for it is "asshole." |
| 17:16.14 | Rythal | WoW UI Development? what's that |
| 17:16.28 | foxlit | the stuff you're supposed to be doing, Rythal |
| 17:16.43 | Semlar | he can't, he's easily distracted |
| 17:16.44 | foxlit | I give you about two weeks before an angry mob shows up demanding justice and pandas for all. |
| 17:16.49 | Mike-N-Go | I joined ###wowuidev but I am the only one in the room. Isn't there soppiest to be an off topic channel... |
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| 17:17.11 | Mike-N-Go | Left the wrong room.. silly ui designer. |
| 17:17.23 | Rythal | 2 weeks? I give it less time then that before the mob starts... |
| 17:17.42 | Mike-N-Go | Colloquy does action on the selected room/item, not moused over room/item. |
| 17:17.42 | Unkle | What do we want? PANDAS! When do we want them? AS SOON AS A SUCCESSFUL AND HUMANE CAPTIVE BREEDING PROGRAM CAN BE ESTABLISHED! |
| 17:18.00 | Semlar | how are you going to fit all of that on a sign |
| 17:18.18 | Unkle | I'll used a really big piece of cardstock |
| 17:20.16 | Semlar | billboard |
| 17:20.49 | Rythal | actually, I take back the 2 weeks... as soon as people realize I forgot a large part in the version I uploaded the mob will start :| |
| 17:21.30 | Semlar | why is there a randompet slash command not a randommount one |
| 17:21.47 | foxlit | because you can summon every pet everywhere |
| 17:21.58 | foxlit | who knows what mount you want while underwater. |
| 17:22.05 | nilyaK | sea turtle |
| 17:22.06 | nilyaK | always |
| 17:22.15 | Rythal | I use my blazing drake underwater |
| 17:22.17 | Semlar | a random one of course |
| 17:22.19 | bluspacecow | rideable penis oh i mean rocket |
| 17:22.22 | nilyaK | because nobody goes to vash'ir |
| 17:22.24 | Unkle | I was going to say redhead, but that's probably sexist and crude. |
| 17:22.37 | nilyaK | sexist? you did not specify gender. |
| 17:22.38 | Vladinator | question |
| 17:22.48 | Semlar | if i wanted a specific mount i wouldn't be using randommount! |
| 17:22.49 | Vladinator | how can the quest model frame show a creature you have not cached? |
| 17:23.03 | Lopeppeppy | coughs gently |
| 17:23.05 | Semlar | you have the display id? |
| 17:23.05 | Vladinator | or did it use the displayid version? |
| 17:23.08 | Vladinator | nvm |
| 17:23.09 | Vladinator | :3 |
| 17:23.35 | Semlar | you get the display id off wowhead and use SetDisplayInfo or whatever it's called |
| 17:24.10 | Rythal | if it's anything like iteminfo, just call it twice and it'll cache the first time, display the second |
| 17:24.19 | Semlar | it's not |
| 17:24.46 | Semlar | you have to actually see a mob to cache it |
| 17:25.17 | Semlar | then using SetCreature just uses the one you last saw |
| 17:26.00 | Semlar | so if they come in different colors, different sexes or whatever it's a tossup as to what you'll get |
| 17:27.28 | Vladinator | I know how it works |
| 17:27.42 | Vladinator | just curious if there was some API to request a cache update internally |
| 17:27.44 | Vladinator | for SetCreature :P |
| 17:27.54 | Vladinator | it only loads once at login event |
| 17:28.06 | Vladinator | meaning SetCreature won't show a newly cached mob |
| 17:28.10 | Vladinator | until you /reload |
| 17:28.11 | Semlar | yes it will |
| 17:28.32 | Semlar | i know for a fact it's available immediately |
| 17:28.51 | Semlar | i was using it to show portraits of what i was in combat with |
| 17:29.00 | Vladinator | it's weird |
| 17:29.10 | Semlar | not that weird |
| 17:29.11 | Vladinator | tried using it for rare scanning it didn't work |
| 17:29.25 | Vladinator | SetCreature returned wrong data after the npc was cached |
| 17:30.29 | Vladinator | I cleared my cache and ran npcscan + my test addon, when I found a rare npcscan alerted me but using SetCreature kept returning empty until I /reload and then suddenly it worked :P |
| 17:31.35 | Semlar | then i probably wouldn't use it to figure out if something is cached |
| 17:32.39 | Mike-N-Go | Semlar: I've seen addons that do a random mount. Also, there is a way to pick a random mount from a list of mounts. |
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| 17:33.20 | Semlar | i just thought they should have implemented a slash command when they did it for the companions |
| 17:33.38 | Vladinator | hehe, but you said "(19:28:27) Semlar: i know for a fact it's available immediately --- i was using it to show portraits of what i was in combat with" |
| 17:33.39 | Vladinator | :P |
| 17:33.47 | Mike-N-Go | ./castrandom mount1,mount2,.. I think, not 100% |
| 17:34.00 | Semlar | it is available immediately, however you're trying to figure out if it's cached or not is wrong |
| 17:34.32 | Vladinator | define avilable |
| 17:34.47 | Vladinator | that SetCreature then using GetModel returns a valid model path? :P |
| 17:35.13 | Semlar | if you can SEE the mob then setcreature will definitely let you set the 3d model |
| 17:35.38 | Vladinator | but why doesn't GetModel work properly then? |
| 17:35.43 | Vladinator | that's odd |
| 17:38.06 | Semlar | you're saying it doesn't work at all until you reload the ui |
| 17:39.17 | Rythal | I think there's something funny with cache right now, since I know even with _NPCScan when it triggers saying it found something it can take up to a minute before the model shows on my screen. |
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| 17:40.44 | Vladinator | that's why I was wondering if some event triggers internal re-cache or something |
| 17:40.51 | Vladinator | for the model module to notice the changes :p |
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| 17:44.43 | Semlar | http://i.imgur.com/OwY3z.jpg here's a crappy screenshot of my addon |
| 17:44.51 | jnwhiteh | Torhal: <3 |
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| 17:45.56 | nilyaK | catch morefisheskthx |
| 17:46.25 | Vladinator | the smallest digsite I have ever seen http://i.imgur.com/TNK7j.jpg |
| 17:46.32 | Vladinator | that is when the minimap is zoomed to the max :P |
| 17:46.34 | Torhal|work | jnwhiteh: :D |
| 17:46.44 | Semlar | the screenshot is over 2 years old |
| 17:47.25 | Neffi | Wow, 5:4 looks strange as fuck on a 16:10 monitor |
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| 17:49.05 | Semlar | all i can tell you for sure is that if you can see the model of the creature you can use SetCreature and have it work, you definitely don't need to reload the ui before you can access it |
| 17:49.33 | Semlar | how it behaves the instant it's cached i don't know |
| 17:52.31 | Semlar | http://i.imgur.com/kDmnQ.jpg |
| 17:52.53 | Neffi | what's that? |
| 17:53.22 | Semlar | not something i ever released |
| 17:53.39 | Semlar | it showed you what you were in combat with and what they could do |
| 17:53.55 | Semlar | like, aoes, fears, stuns, cleaves |
| 17:54.00 | Neffi | hmm |
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| 17:54.41 | Semlar | i just did that through pattern matching the tooltip so it wasn't perfect and definitely wouldn't have worked outside of an english client |
| 17:55.24 | Vladinator | but Semlar then GetModel needs to be fixed because it returns wrong values :P |
| 17:55.36 | Semlar | http://www.curseforge.com/media/images/19/155/bestiary_screeny1.jpg |
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| 17:56.12 | Semlar | i warned you that getmodel might have a delay |
| 17:56.35 | Semlar | it's not going to work until the model loads |
| 17:57.04 | Vladinator | no |
| 17:57.11 | Vladinator | this I did manually |
| 17:57.33 | Vladinator | using first a SetCreature then I pasted the GetModel so it didn't do it right one after the other in this test :P |
| 17:57.56 | Semlar | you're using a 3d model you can actually see on screen right |
| 17:58.08 | Vladinator | gotta check that, the frame was invisible (no parent) |
| 17:58.12 | Semlar | like the character frame or something |
| 17:58.24 | Semlar | just use the model in the character frame you don't need to bother making one |
| 17:59.52 | Vladinator | reset my cache and gonna test :P |
| 18:00.46 | Semlar | i should probably mention that previously when there was no model for something it wasn't necessarily blank |
| 18:01.04 | Vladinator | that's fixed easily |
| 18:01.05 | Semlar | it would display a checkered cube |
| 18:01.16 | Semlar | which would return a path |
| 18:01.16 | Vladinator | ClearModel before SetCreature |
| 18:01.36 | Vladinator | now it returns blank string if the creature is not cached |
| 18:01.37 | Semlar | but i don't know if you're ever going to run into that |
| 18:03.15 | Semlar | http://i.imgur.com/ShwrW.jpg |
| 18:04.44 | Semlar | cube |
| 18:04.48 | Semlar | hat |
| 18:06.11 | Semlar | i have no idea how models behave after they implemented the streaming client |
| 18:06.30 | Semlar | i know you can't figure out if a texture actually exists any more |
| 18:06.47 | Semlar | the game just always treats it like it does |
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| 18:08.04 | Vladinator | yes |
| 18:08.07 | Vladinator | it shows a model |
| 18:08.19 | Semlar | it shows a model and getmodel doesn't return a path |
| 18:08.33 | Vladinator | hmm |
| 18:08.51 | Vladinator | it does now lol, weird |
| 18:09.29 | Vladinator | odd thing is |
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| 18:09.39 | Vladinator | I did a 1 to 100000 npcid scan |
| 18:09.48 | Vladinator | with both tooltip and model based checking |
| 18:09.54 | Vladinator | both returned the same amount of cached npcs |
| 18:10.05 | Vladinator | but in practice when I have an OnUpdate it acts odd |
| 18:10.09 | Vladinator | maybe I coded it wrong? lol |
| 18:12.45 | Semlar | http://i.imgur.com/yy6aW.jpg |
| 18:13.21 | Ressy | oh god |
| 18:13.26 | Semlar | :| |
| 18:14.00 | Semlar | i accidentally the whole interface |
| 18:15.35 | Vladinator | Semlar: |
| 18:16.19 | Vladinator | last test |
| 18:16.29 | Vladinator | the addon has full list of all rare IDs |
| 18:16.36 | Vladinator | loaded and using models to try check for cache state |
| 18:16.47 | Vladinator | running npcscan on the side for test, clean cache, fixed one issue in my code lol :P |
| 18:16.55 | Mike-N-Go | All known rares.. |
| 18:17.00 | Vladinator | works :D |
| 18:17.09 | Vladinator | awesome |
| 18:17.25 | Vladinator | the numbers are |
| 18:17.50 | Vladinator | scanning all 1 to 100000 npcs using tooltips uses 15ms according to profiling, but using models it uses 0ms :P |
| 18:17.50 | Semlar | http://i.imgur.com/GsW3L.jpg |
| 18:18.24 | Vladinator | but why do we use tooltips to check for cache state? |
| 18:18.34 | Vladinator | if models appear to be more performance friendly and not to mention, easier to code :P |
| 18:18.38 | Vladinator | you only need like, 4 lines |
| 18:18.51 | Semlar | in all fairness it didn't sound easier |
| 18:19.40 | Vladinator | local f = CreateFrame("PlayerModel") function CreatureExists(id) f::ClearModel() f::SetCreature(id) return f:GetModel() ~= "" end |
| 18:19.53 | Vladinator | that's the code, minus the double :: :P |
| 18:19.56 | Semlar | i don't know how common it is now but when i got started on this there was zero information about models |
| 18:20.06 | Semlar | nobody used them |
| 18:21.03 | Semlar | so it probably wouldn't be the first thing someone thinks of when they want to scan the cache for something |
| 18:22.32 | Vladinator | hope someone learned something then :P |
| 18:22.35 | Vladinator | on irc hehe |
| 18:22.44 | Semlar | i had to use a DressUpModel because humanoids wouldn't display everything properly |
| 18:23.03 | Semlar | i don't think it should matter for what you're doing though |
| 18:26.13 | Semlar | http://i.imgur.com/cdiYt.jpg this is what i imported the entire spell database into the game for |
| 18:26.22 | Semlar | that was a horrible idea |
| 18:26.59 | Semlar | it used 40mb of memory |
| 18:27.25 | Vladinator | hehe |
| 18:28.27 | Semlar | http://i.imgur.com/hPmaI.jpg |
| 18:29.41 | Semlar | it did let you view the visual effects of the spell |
| 18:29.48 | Semlar | that was pretty cool |
| 18:31.18 | Semlar | it was a pretty involved process to extract from the dbc files though |
| 18:31.44 | Semlar | the spell information was split up between something like 5 different files that all referenced each other |
| 18:33.45 | Semlar | http://i.imgur.com/sTAAm.jpg |
| 18:33.57 | jnwhiteh | load them on demand like LH does =) |
| 18:34.01 | Neffii | Why not store as much as possible in bitfields, and don't store information that can be re-obtained in game. Compress what's left and I bet you can be reasonable. |
| 18:34.07 | jnwhiteh | aye |
| 18:34.10 | jnwhiteh | I had major gains with compression in LH |
| 18:34.14 | jnwhiteh | until it got too big |
| 18:34.14 | Semlar | oh i'm sure it could have been compressed to a huge degree |
| 18:34.31 | Semlar | my goal at the time was just getting it into the game |
| 18:35.00 | Neffii | LH doesn't use compression anymore, does it? |
| 18:35.27 | Semlar | i'm not about to try and piece those files back together again though |
| 18:37.51 | Semlar | http://i.imgur.com/5bAcq.jpg |
| 18:38.20 | jnwhiteh | Neffii: no, I dropped it in favour of bucketing. |
| 18:38.35 | jnwhiteh | before it used both |
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| 18:41.02 | Semlar | i miss avr |
| 18:44.58 | Neffii | i miss sleeping on a regular basis |
| 18:45.04 | Semlar | that too |
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| 18:46.49 | nilyaK | I miss all these things |
| 18:47.11 | nilyaK | and having my keys, and just ugh. |
| 18:47.21 | Vilkku | hmm, are there any mods that conveniently show when an item is for a gift or used to make a gift in the tooltip? |
| 18:48.10 | Semlar | what's a gift |
| 18:51.33 | Vilkku | stuff you can give to certain persons |
| 18:51.39 | Vilkku | to raise your reputation with them |
| 18:51.55 | Vilkku | some like certain foods |
| 18:51.56 | Vilkku | etc |
| 18:52.00 | Vilkku | so it's not a special item |
| 18:52.06 | Vilkku | but items that can also be used for other stuff |
| 18:52.16 | Vilkku | so I'm afraid I will sell or trash something that could have better uses |
| 18:52.20 | kd3 | http://www.wowpedia.org/Tillers#Known_members |
| 18:52.35 | Semlar | so you turn it in to raise rep like the cloth quests |
| 18:52.48 | Vilkku | kinda, I guess |
| 18:53.32 | Rythal | OH! that makes more sense.. I thought you ment like gift wrap, and got puzzled cuz no one gives gifts |
| 18:54.21 | Semlar | yeah i thought they meant flavor items too |
| 18:54.45 | Vilkku | ah, sorry :P |
| 18:54.51 | Vilkku | but they are called gifts ingame :D |
| 18:54.53 | Semlar | that's what i get for not actually playing the game |
| 18:55.07 | AcidWeb | Oh Rythal. |
| 18:55.10 | Vilkku | my extensive research on the subject was searching for "gift" on wowi and curse |
| 18:55.21 | AcidWeb | Rythal: My sincerest condolences. |
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| 18:55.57 | Semlar | mourning the inheritance of carbonite? |
| 18:56.08 | Unkle | Our ISP tried to give me a heart attack. |
| 19:00.50 | Rythal | ... it's not that bad |
| 19:01.52 | AcidWeb | Rythal: Yet. |
| 19:03.20 | Rythal | it makes a difference having nice clean code now... if I had been left with the mess it was, well then yeah i'd be mourning. |
| 19:03.29 | Neffii | What's that addon that shows what an item is used for in its tooltips? |
| 19:03.37 | Rythal | tho it is still quite the mess :/ |
| 19:03.41 | kd3 | informant |
| 19:03.49 | AcidWeb | Do you realize that after two large patches people who consider you a god today will skin you alive if you be day late with patch? :D |
| 19:04.06 | AcidWeb | I say this half-seriously but still. |
| 19:04.31 | Neffii | No there was a better one than informant |
| 19:04.46 | Unkle | They will line up with the fucking torches and pitchforks. |
| 19:05.32 | Rythal | oh I know... but when you've delt with customers for years who break down into tears as you tell them sorry your hard drive is dead. You grow thick skinned :P so let em come for my blood |
| 19:06.42 | AcidWeb | I wish you all the best Rythal :-) I would not have had the courage to take over such project. |
| 19:07.34 | Rythal | I had no idea what I was getting myself into... I honestly thought they wouldn't give it up and eventually release another bandage. |
| 19:08.12 | AcidWeb | Carbonite died many months ago. Release of "open" source was quite shock for many people. |
| 19:08.37 | AcidWeb | Personally i dont expected even a bandage. |
| 19:09.11 | Rythal | I'd say years more then months... it's been nothing but bandages since wotlk. |
| 19:09.11 | Neffii | Ack. It was Mendeleev. Last updated 2010. =( |
| 19:09.12 | AcidWeb | But you know life is full of grinding and surprises ;] |
| 19:11.24 | Rythal | and I keep finding more surprises... like the fact locale wasn't fully implemented, parts of it are hard coded to use just 3 languages... |
| 19:14.26 | Torhal|work | AcidWeb: Eh, it isn't so bad. |
| 19:14.36 | Torhal|work | I have to deal with Archy and ARL's customer-base. |
| 19:15.13 | foxlit | wish tradeskill UI would stop being stupid |
| 19:15.25 | AcidWeb | Torhal|work: Somedays im really happy that my addons are used only by data lovers ;] |
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| 19:36.18 | Fisker | Torhal|work |
| 19:36.36 | Torhal|work | Fisker |
| 19:40.14 | mckenziemc | Torhal|work |
| 19:40.38 | Humbedooh | no one likes a copycat |
| 19:40.49 | Torhal|work | copies Humbedooh's cat. |
| 19:40.58 | Humbedooh | punishes mckenziemc for Torhal|work's doings |
| 19:42.45 | foxlit | So I wrote a multi-threaded program. (a) Curse you, lack of non-basic POSIX primitives on OS X (b) It doesn't actually scale :/ |
| 19:42.46 | Cairenn | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhiG6_83pbc |
| 19:45.15 | Rythal | >< that video crashed my entire WM. |
| 19:45.17 | Fisker | why didn't those damn pandas study the ways of the light? |
| 19:46.48 | Fisker | or atleast goblins |
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| 19:51.30 | mikma | cairenn: penguins are dicks! |
| 19:51.42 | Cairenn | hehehe, some of them |
| 19:51.58 | Cairenn | You wouldn't think that penguins could be 'sneaky', right? |
| 19:52.17 | Rythal | hey... big stones get the girls, the penguins just being male. |
| 19:52.29 | Cairenn | lol |
| 19:54.12 | Dark_Elf | Rythal u are missing some pandaran starter quests in the database lol |
| 19:54.25 | Rythal | what database |
| 19:54.35 | Rythal | there is none |
| 19:55.03 | Dark_Elf | the carbonite database |
| 19:55.35 | Rythal | exactly... there is none. If it's missing that's blizzard not sending info... I've added nothing for pandaran |
| 19:56.08 | Dark_Elf | still it should track the quest |
| 19:58.08 | Dark_Elf | lol |
| 20:00.02 | mikma | http://www.break.com/index/go-home-frontloader-you-re-drunk-2374742 |
| 20:00.05 | Dark_Elf | also the code for watch new quests is buggy as hell |
| 20:00.08 | mikma | ojjojjojjoj |
| 20:00.25 | mikma | that's so awesome |
| 20:00.51 | Rythal | I'm more surprised no one has complained the 2 shrines aren't on the map.. it's almost like no one using carbonite has hit 90 yet. |
| 20:03.37 | Dark_Elf | prob cause most players level 90 dont use it :p |
| 20:04.13 | foxlit | 90% of your functionality isn't going to be used by 90% of your users :) |
| 20:04.17 | mikma | cairenn: joys of fatherhood: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlgr6MoXufU&feature=fvwrel |
| 20:04.35 | Cairenn | lol |
| 20:05.08 | Dark_Elf | i would say feature request would be to drop the pseudo tomtom arrow and use the real tomtom arrow |
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| 20:09.28 | Rythal | it's the map.. you enter the shrine, and suddenly your zooming all over the place in valley of the four winds because it's missing, it's kinda hard to miss |
| 20:10.03 | Semlar | it's a mini dungeon |
| 20:10.32 | kd3 | http://www.wowpedia.org/Pandaria_micro_dungeon_maps |
| 20:10.34 | nevcairiel | the technical term is micro dungeon, but they are used all over the place now |
| 20:10.38 | Semlar | micro |
| 20:11.27 | Semlar | as far as i can tell, you can't set the map to a micro dungeon if you aren't in it |
| 20:11.38 | nevcairiel | although the shrines are kinda special, because they actually change the zone you're on |
| 20:12.08 | Rythal | that would explain why it didn't react like a normal city. |
| 20:12.29 | Semlar | they are definitely not going to behave like a regular city map |
| 20:12.57 | nevcairiel | no, it uses the micro dungeon system, not a real zone map |
| 20:13.04 | Semlar | i'm personally just treating them like instances for now |
| 20:13.11 | mikma | mini dungeons? |
| 20:13.31 | kd3 | quick description; http://www.wowpedia.org/Micro_dungeon_maps |
| 20:13.37 | Semlar | the maps aren't all that useful if you aren't inside them anyway |
| 20:14.36 | Semlar | when you are inside them they're a lot like a dungeon map |
| 20:15.08 | Semlar | from an api standpoint |
| 20:15.30 | nevcairiel | dungeon maps are just normal zones |
| 20:15.35 | nevcairiel | the micro dungeons are rather special |
| 20:15.51 | kd3 | I'm reminded to say 'fuck wow's mapping system' again |
| 20:15.53 | kd3 | grrs |
| 20:16.02 | Torhal|work | It's rather stabby. |
| 20:16.24 | nevcairiel | now that we have ids for at least all real maps, and the APIs that go with it, its really not _that_ bad anymore |
| 20:17.05 | Semlar | dungeon maps aren't normal zones, they have multiple levels |
| 20:17.11 | foxlit | Personally, I think they should steal Valve's every-doorway-is-a-portal tech just to fuck with the people handling mapping |
| 20:17.14 | Semlar | orgrimmar and dalaran are both dungeon maps |
| 20:17.18 | kd3 | same goes for org and dala |
| 20:18.01 | nevcairiel | for all i care, any zone can have multiple levels, it doesnt make it really different |
| 20:18.14 | Semlar | well it does make a difference when you're working with the api |
| 20:18.24 | Semlar | they use different paths to the map textures |
| 20:18.44 | Semlar | which i assume you already know |
| 20:19.27 | Vladinator | any caster that wishes to help me defeat lady deathwhisper in ICC as I can't handle the adds when they go immune to pysical damage lol :/ |
| 20:19.30 | Vladinator | physical* |
| 20:20.53 | Semlar | turn into a death knight |
| 20:21.26 | kd3 | oh, gah. memories of pre-5.0 scholo and trying to solo it as a mage with the magic-immune skellies |
| 20:21.27 | kd3 | ugh |
| 20:21.31 | Vladinator | :3 |
| 20:23.02 | Vladinator | http://www.wowhead.com/items=15.2 companions list |
| 20:23.08 | Vladinator | life/water spirit ^.^ |
| 20:24.07 | kd3 | this, this would be nice: http://i.imgur.com/sCDa9.jpg |
| 20:24.54 | Vladinator | :P |
| 20:25.33 | Vladinator | anyone wanna help me out for a second with parties and battletags? need to test something :P |
| 20:25.44 | Vladinator | Stanzilla is busy doing HCs atm :P |
| 20:26.52 | Vladinator | ok I'll stop asking lol |
| 20:27.10 | Semlar | go activate my account and use that |
| 20:32.49 | Vladinator | I know something you don't Semlar :3 |
| 20:32.55 | Vladinator | how to update the LFD CtA status |
| 20:33.07 | Semlar | a lot of people know a lot of things i don't |
| 20:33.33 | Semlar | like what CtA stands for |
| 20:33.36 | Vladinator | call to arms |
| 20:33.40 | Vladinator | the bonus reward LFD feature |
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| 20:34.06 | Semlar | the satchel |
| 20:34.20 | Vladinator | gotta call RequestLFDPlayerLockInfo() :p |
| 20:35.58 | Vladinator | : |
| 20:36.39 | Semlar | okay but why are you bringing that up |
| 20:36.54 | Semlar | have you been looking through my old addons |
| 20:37.03 | Vladinator | nope :P |
| 20:37.12 | Vladinator | you were the only one to talk at all |
| 20:37.17 | Vladinator | so you were the only guy I can ask lol |
| 20:37.29 | Semlar | well apparently i did know that because i used it in this http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info21084-Spoiled.html |
| 20:37.59 | Vladinator | :D |
| 20:38.16 | Semlar | although i'm fairly sure that addon never worked right |
| 20:38.27 | Vladinator | mine is a bit different http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info19750-LFDCalltoArms.html |
| 20:39.07 | kd3 | <3 logging in to a mailbox full of successful auctions |
| 20:39.09 | Vladinator | CtA can be sporatic, like one update it says there is CtA then next it's gone, then it comes back and such. |
| 20:39.41 | Semlar | it didn't seem to always work when the lfd window was closed |
| 20:39.51 | Vladinator | oh |
| 20:40.14 | Semlar | but i usually left the window open anyway so i don't know |
| 20:40.38 | Rythal | CtA itself is sporatic, it can be there when you hit queue, and gone by the time you get into the dungeon.... or other times I've queued when it wasn't there, but by the time I zoned in I was getting it. |
| 20:40.57 | Semlar | i've definitely gotten the reward when it wasn't available |
| 20:43.34 | Semlar | someone claims that this doesn't work any more http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info20964-NoRealm.html but creating a fake message using the chat api would indicate that it does |
| 20:43.54 | Semlar | i can't really test that it works in actual cross realm stuff |
| 20:44.30 | Rythal | ouch... I expect blizzard to be receiving a lot of hate soon, even more then usual with requiring heroic dungeon gear in every slot before you can LFR |
| 20:45.57 | Semlar | i'm guessing those people weren't around at the beginning of cataclysm when you had to farm reputation to buy blues and epics that were equivalent to heroic drops |
| 20:46.46 | nevcairiel | at least they learned that not being able to spend justice points without reputation was a bad move |
| 20:47.03 | nevcairiel | i still think earning justice points is a bit too slow, though |
| 20:48.03 | Rythal | I never bothered with justice gear, since crafted PVP was the exact same stats |
| 20:48.28 | Rythal | and needed no rep (before they removed it) |
| 20:48.32 | Semlar | when i queue for a raid i expect to be back where i started after a loading screen and already have all the loot i would have won in my inventory and the achievement for completing it |
| 20:48.54 | nevcairiel | i still miss one item or so for 463 ilvl, no drop luck on some bosses :( |
| 20:49.34 | nevcairiel | although an increase to 458 on the two justice items i have might push me high enough |
| 20:49.38 | Rythal | most my guild is stuck around 450 or so ilvl, and curses plate wearers since that's all that drops instance after instance |
| 20:49.55 | nevcairiel | i see plenty of caster cloth |
| 20:50.07 | Semlar | is there an item level requirement for entering the raid portal |
| 20:50.12 | nevcairiel | no |
| 20:50.16 | nevcairiel | never was, never will be |
| 20:50.16 | Rythal | no |
| 20:50.46 | nevcairiel | its your fault if you take completely under-equipped players into a raid |
| 20:50.52 | Semlar | so you can just do the more difficult version of it in worse gear with people from your own server |
| 20:51.00 | Semlar | seems reasonable |
| 20:51.26 | Rythal | it'll be interesting to see how many try it, I never tried the raids on beta but my understanding is they up'd difficulty due to LFR |
| 20:51.43 | nevcairiel | i dont think that many PuGs form these days with LFR being available |
| 20:51.53 | Semlar | LFR was a joke compared to the normal raid |
| 20:52.05 | Semlar | so the normal raids are just the same difficulty they've always been |
| 20:52.23 | Rythal | I wish people didn't hate on DS so much :| I wanna finish my daggers, but even mentioning hey lets run DS results in laughter |
| 20:52.46 | nevcairiel | i only ran it twice, and i already hated it |
| 20:52.49 | Gnarfoz | wait a while, and pick people who want achievements |
| 20:52.50 | nevcairiel | its a terribly dungeon |
| 20:53.09 | nevcairiel | or raid, whatever :p |
| 20:53.32 | Semlar | did you do it on LFR because that would probably make you hate it |
| 20:53.34 | Rythal | I ran it 4 times a week for 4 months.. and never hated it :/ i'm strange |
| 20:53.53 | Semlar | there are almost no mechanics in the LFR version |
| 20:54.09 | Rythal | 8 times a week if you count LFR... but I don't |
| 20:55.18 | nevcairiel | nah that wasnt it. i thought it lacked some "story", it felt like you just got thrown at a bunch of bosses, and short of deathwings spine and deathwing himself, it was just like "oh that guy just appeared, go kill him" |
| 20:55.56 | nevcairiel | maybe i'm still stuck in the past. I loved Ulduar |
| 20:56.05 | Semlar | well i can't read so as far as i'm concerned there's no story for anything |
| 20:57.15 | Rythal | I do miss Ulduar.. and wonder if we'll ever see anything as epic as that again |
| 20:58.11 | nevcairiel | they did claim that now with LFR many more people see raids, so they might design more/better raids again, because the time spent is worth it |
| 21:00.19 | Rythal | bah.. it might not get seen current tier LFR or not, but it does get seen... ICC + Ulduar are probably the highest 2 raids pugged now. |
| 21:01.01 | nevcairiel | I dont think people running old raids for achievements is what they consider useful content |
| 21:03.21 | Fisker | i need room for my 500 bolts of windwool cloth nevcairiel :'( |
| 21:03.33 | nevcairiel | give it to me |
| 21:03.47 | nevcairiel | besides, thats only 25 stacks |
| 21:04.14 | Fisker | about 90% of my storage goes to vanity items |
| 21:04.27 | Torhal|work | Fisker: Use some of it to knit a stocking for your Nexus 7. |
| 21:04.40 | Fisker | why a stocking? |
| 21:05.03 | Fisker | wow |
| 21:05.09 | Fisker | haunted memento is listed at 25k here |
| 21:05.15 | Fisker | still can't believe i got mine for 500g :D |
| 21:06.08 | nevcairiel | haunted memento? you can sell that? wasnt that some event item? |
| 21:06.48 | nevcairiel | i have it in the bank, but if i can make 25-30k from that, i wouldnt miss it =P |
| 21:07.03 | nevcairiel | i figured it would be BoP |
| 21:07.20 | Gnarfoz | it's never been |
| 21:08.11 | nevcairiel | but why would people pay so much for that? |
| 21:08.19 | Semlar | limited supply |
| 21:08.20 | Gnarfoz | not obtainable anymore |
| 21:08.29 | Semlar | i think i have 4.. |
| 21:08.40 | nevcairiel | not on one char, you dont |
| 21:09.30 | Rythal | I like the idea someone else had of adding "fun things" like pets & mounts, there really is to many fun gadgets & toys and not enough bag space |
| 21:09.32 | Semlar | the ghost is also buggy as hell |
| 21:09.48 | Semlar | i don't know if they've fixed this but it kept making my character stand up |
| 21:10.04 | Semlar | and sometimes freak out on flight paths |
| 21:10.32 | Semlar | it made the wyvern randomly stop and spin around |
| 21:10.45 | nevcairiel | the flight path issue is supposedly fixed |
| 21:11.11 | nevcairiel | hm, only 17k here, i'll hang on to it for a while =p |
| 21:11.37 | Semlar | when i was stealthed it would repeatedly despawn and respawn and run to me causing the cower animation which makes you stand up or something |
| 21:12.59 | Semlar | if these weren't unique i imagine you'd see people with hordes of them following their characters around |
| 21:13.43 | Semlar | which i fully support |
| 21:13.51 | nevcairiel | back when they were new, like everyone in the raid had one, it was kinda annoying |
| 21:14.04 | Semlar | you could throw them to people |
| 21:14.10 | Semlar | i don't know why |
| 21:14.30 | Semlar | i'm sure a lot of them were lost from people having full inventories |
| 21:14.53 | nevcairiel | that reminds me of the stacks of leather balls we used to bring to raids :P |
| 21:15.08 | Semlar | and the skulls from za |
| 21:15.18 | Semlar | i had like a stack of those |
| 21:15.25 | nevcairiel | this was mostly all in classic |
| 21:42.16 | kd3 | wee, won an ornate weapon with a 1 because I was the only one in the group |
| 21:42.17 | kd3 | ha |
| 21:46.34 | Adys | Could someone give me a screenshot of the wow cataclysm launcher on windows against a white background? |
| 21:46.50 | Adys | to make a white background, just go to about:blank and screenshot on top of that, simplest |
| 21:47.07 | kd3 | how about on transparency? http://www.wowpedia.org/File:Launcher-v4.0.1.12857.png?c=1 |
| 21:47.34 | Adys | sorry |
| 21:47.36 | Adys | i meant mop |
| 21:47.38 | Adys | not cataclysm |
| 21:47.42 | Semlar | :| |
| 21:47.51 | Adys | Im impressed you found that. |
| 21:48.51 | kd3 | huh. we don't have a cap of the mists launcher on wiki |
| 21:48.54 | Adys | that wotlk screenshot is not the original look of the launcher |
| 21:55.30 | zenzelezz | Adys: http://i.imgur.com/uDhpv.jpg |
| 21:56.25 | TC-Work | So the closest place that sells the car i want to buy is 1360 miles away....this poses a problem |
| 21:56.41 | zenzelezz | which car is that? |
| 21:56.57 | Adys | thanks zenzelezz |
| 21:57.02 | TC-Work | Hyundai Genesis Coupe 3.8 Track |
| 21:57.11 | TC-Work | 2013 |
| 21:57.44 | Torhal|work | If you drive 60MPH, you'll arrive in 22.6666 hours. |
| 21:57.52 | Torhal|work | I'd take a plane. |
| 21:58.10 | TC-Work | I'd take dealer closer to me |
| 21:58.13 | zenzelezz | if he drives he'd have another problem |
| 21:58.22 | TC-Work | not really |
| 21:58.24 | Torhal|work | People abandon cars all the time. |
| 21:58.30 | Torhal|work | Plus, rentals. |
| 21:58.32 | TC-Work | I'll make them take the one i drive there |
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| 22:03.04 | TC-Work | Or i could just bitch about it |
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| 23:32.02 | kd3 | yay, an upgrade from a rare mob |
| 23:35.45 | Semlar | ^_^ |
| 23:53.06 | Gnarfoz | is there any cleu event for units despawning? |
| 23:53.21 | Semlar | not as far as i could tell |
| 23:53.52 | kd3 | ah, huzzah. townlong steppes |
| 23:53.53 | Gnarfoz | dang |
| 23:54.02 | kd3 | my favorite zone music on the continent |
| 23:54.09 | Semlar | there is one for them dissipating or something but not like the ghosts that just vanish in one of the instances i can't remember the name of |
| 23:55.56 | Semlar | one of my addons tracks what you're in combat with and i never found a way around that |
| 23:56.16 | Semlar | it just times out if you don't see any action from them for a set number of seconds |
